Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64 [Archive] - Page 3

jos99

19th September 2012, 21:54

Small suggestion. Maybe you want to hide menu by default and instead make this button that firefox (and some other software) uses? But using black color of course =)
http://i.imgur.com/zMbAz.png
I think to complete the look it would be OK to make the menu bar match the colour of the process bar i.e. dark grey by default with white text- is this possible?

Can you explain what the BE stands for:thanks:?

Keiyakusha

19th September 2012, 22:28

I think to complete the look it would be OK to make the menu bar match the colour of the process bar i.e. dark grey by default with white text- is this possible?
I don't actually know for sure but I had impression that current menu only can be colored to whatever color windows have. Unless you replace it by something of your own. But making button is easier and personally I think it looks good. As was pointed before, you don't access that menu that much anyway. On the other hand it doesn't works on XP, don't know about vista.
All I can say for sure, current menu doesn't looks good, something needs to be done about it

ceb

19th September 2012, 23:03

I used the "old" MPC-BE and I knew that updates to MPC-HC would be included in it, so is it still the same?
Bump.
Also I was wondering if it makes sense to disable all DXVA since I have a powerful enough PC (Intel Core i5-2500 & ATI 5770).
How should I set the subtitle options for best quality (in particular regard to anime)? I've set "Sub pictures to buffer" at 0, "Maximum texture resolution" at dekstop, "allow animation when buffering" enabled and "round up to power of two" disabled.
Thanks for any help. :)

Aleksoid1978

20th September 2012, 04:10

Bump.
Also I was wondering if it makes sense to disable all DXVA since I have a powerful enough PC (Intel Core i5-2500 & ATI 5770).
How should I set the subtitle options for best quality (in particular regard to anime)? I've set "Sub pictures to buffer" at 0, "Maximum texture resolution" at dekstop, "allow animation when buffering" enabled and "round up to power of two" disabled.
Thanks for any help. :)

Sub pictures to buffer - keep as default 4. If size > 0 - sub-picture queue for best performance.

turbojet

20th September 2012, 05:11

Is there any news on the remember window position not working reliably?

Steps to reproduce:
1. in options > player check 'remember window size' and 'remember window position'
2. maximize mpc-be
3. close mpc-be
4. open another file
there's a good chance mpc-be will no longer be maximized, if not repeat step 3 and 4

It's expected to keep the maximized window state like the latest MPC-HC 5979 does and has for over 7 years. Acknowledgement would be appreciated.

Aleksoid1978

20th September 2012, 07:08

I try and it seems to work with the sample that I give.

Thanks.

Could you add this correction of bug at mpc-hc versions in the same time?

Thanks.

No - i don't be write source or patch for MPC-HC team. After next release - can take out source and integrate into MPC-HC :).

ryrynz

20th September 2012, 07:09

Duplicated like Turbojet said. Maximized the window and then closed and started BE. It does not fit the screen anymore it has maximized beyond the screen.

Aleksoid1978

20th September 2012, 08:28

Duplicated like Turbojet said. Maximized the window and then closed and started BE. It does not fit the screen anymore it has maximized beyond the screen.

Fixed - wait next release.

jos99

20th September 2012, 12:17

I don't actually know for sure but I had impression that current menu only can be colored to whatever color windows have. Unless you replace it by something of your own. But making button is easier and personally I think it looks good. As was pointed before, you don't access that menu that much anyway. On the other hand it doesn't works on XP, don't know about vista.
All I can say for sure, current menu doesn't looks good, something needs to be done about it
In Firefox the Menu bar can either be transparent, or show the theme/persona background image, I think it is probably possible to change the colour.

ceb

20th September 2012, 13:12

Sub pictures to buffer - keep as default 4. If size > 0 - sub-picture queue for best performance.
Thank you, but is it the same if I want best quality?
What about the other question?

ZoNi

20th September 2012, 13:23

1. On the other hand it doesn't works on XP

2. All I can say for sure, current menu doesn't looks good, something needs to be done about it

1. What doesn't works on XP? That type of button, like in Firefox, works nicely in XP.

2. I agree - it looks weird to have dark toolbar and light menubar. FF-like button would be very nice solution.

Keiyakusha

20th September 2012, 16:19

In Firefox the Menu bar can either be transparent, or show the theme/persona background image, I think it is probably possible to change the colour.
the whole firefox interface is custom made and can be customised in any way you can imagine... MPC-BE doesn't have such capabilities...

1. What doesn't works on XP? That type of button, like in Firefox, works nicely in XP
Maybe... I don't recall that winxp allowed such titlebar customisations though. maybe they made it as part of the custom gui. Not that it really matters.

ZoNi

21st September 2012, 10:06

Suggestion: add EXIT button on toolbar (maybe next to AUD and SUB buttons, so it would be AUD | SUB | EXIT).

That way it is easy to close MPC with single click of mouse when watching movie in full screen.

madshi

24th September 2012, 09:34

Hey devs,

I've posted a problem with MPC-HC and the latest madVR build here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1592585&postcount=20197

The same problem should also apply to MPC-BE. Is there a dev willing to look into this problem? That would be much appreciated. Thanks!!

ikarad

24th September 2012, 16:00

jos99

25th September 2012, 00:07

the whole firefox interface is custom made and can be customised in any way you can imagine... MPC-BE doesn't have such capabilities...

Just discovered MPC-BE looks great if you hide the Menu & Drag bar (and Borders as well if you like) on the View menu/right click option. It doesn't work so well for MPC-HC because of the contrasting status bar.

robpdotcom

25th September 2012, 00:46

I use Haali for mkv files, and it will automatically load sub streams flagged as "default - yes", and not streams flagged as "default - no". With MPC-BE, it always loads the first stream, no matter how it is flagged.

Is there anyway to let the splitter decide which subs to load?

Aleksoid1978

25th September 2012, 02:47

@Aleksoid1978

I find another problem with sub. I don't find a bug tracker for mpc-BE and I post the problem in bug track of mpc-hc because the problem is the same.

https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2617
problem:
At the beginning of this video (beginnning credits), subs flash. With directvobsub, subs are displayed without flash

file: http://www.speedyshare.com/ms96k/Hiryuu-Maken-Ki-04-Hi10P-1280x720-H264-D6466060.mkv

Sorry - but I do not work with animated text and subtitles.

alexins

26th September 2012, 13:28

Media Player Classic - BE 1.0.3.1 Stable release (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=165890)

Changes in release 1.0.3.1:
1.0.3.1
==============================
Added (+):
+ Added an option in "Speed Step" settings;
+ DXVA (GPU) indicator on the toolbar;
+ JPEG 2000 support in MP4/MOV splitter and decoder, ffmpeg + OpenJPEG library (http://www.openjpeg.org) is used for decoding;
+ Full Opus support, splitter + decoder, ffmpeg + libopus is used for decoding;

Changes (*):
* FLVSplitter, streaming video (youtube or any other http source) - opening speed-up, determining file duration during playback;
* Short links support - youtu.be;
* PGS subtitles parsing/handling mechanism has been revised - multiple subtitles are correctly displayed simultaneously now;
* PGS/DVB subtitles rendering - optimization;
* YouTube parser optimization;
* Ukrainian localization update;
* Disabled DVR-MS Caption;
* ShellExt - module operation improvement, optimization;
* MediaInfo 0.7.60+ svn rev.5104;
* libpng 1.5.13 git-11c1e0d;
* ffmpeg git-f75c5f0;
* openjpeg 1.5;
* libopus (version git 2c3b5ee dated 20120921);

Fixes (!):
! Fixed problem with incorrect selecting and highlighting of DVD objects (there was displacement of coordinates);
! Fixed problem with saving window state on program exit(SIZE_MAXIMIZED/SIZE_MINIMIZED);
! Fixed problem with player startup in "Use same process for every file" mode, multiple windows were opened after multiple clicks, ticket #29;
! MpcAudioRenderer - WASAPI Shared mode is not used now if sampling rates of the input and output streams differ;

jos99

26th September 2012, 15:43

Media Player Classic - BE 1.0.3.1 Stable release (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=165890)

Changes in release 1.0.3.1:
Thanks for the update. I'm a little unsure about the GPU text added, the orange colour clashes with the grey background, maybe better black or white like the others? Also maybe it is starting to look a little busy with 3 text options in the controls bar- can we have an option to hide these, individually, or all 3?

ZoNi

26th September 2012, 20:34

about the GPU text added, the orange colour clashes with the grey background
Agree, it doesn't look that nice on black background, especially when "skin" is silver:

http://i45.tinypic.com/mhag3r.png

jos99

26th September 2012, 21:00

Agree, it doesn't look that nice on black background, especially when "skin" is silver:

There doesn't seem to be much use for it there unless you are hiding the status bar, just adds to clutter. Maybe make it so it hides it automatically if you have the status bar and show DXVA or GPU (to cover CUVID) in status bar as previously. If showing in controls I definitely think it needs to be just white/grey to match other icons, or have CPU/GPU to denote off/on

...or GPU black for off, grey/white for on

...or use an gfx card icon with a cross over for off which would work with toolbar skins.

Gaius

27th September 2012, 06:44

Is it just me or does this player feel a bit sluggish compared to MPC-HC? I notice videos don't open as fast with this player.

Hypernova

27th September 2012, 06:54

Is it just me or does this player feel a bit sluggish compared to MPC-HC? I notice videos don't open as fast with this player.

Maybe it's because MPC-HC is already cached on your system? Remember that Windows will try to make your frequently used programs starts faster. I personally can't notice a difference.

Mercury_22

27th September 2012, 09:39

Is it just me or does this player feel a bit sluggish compared to MPC-HC? I notice videos don't open as fast with this player.

No you're not alone ! ( no Superfetch here :))
There is definitely something wrong (maybe related to the very, very poor implementation of the "preview in the search", the one in "Light Alloy" it's much better) as reported by Vipz too (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1591155#post1591155)(another bug which seems related to Vipz's can be reproduce by opening windows explorer (full screen) go to a BD folder (video file) open the index.bdmv or the m2ts file and try to close the explorer window clicking on the X button before MPC-BE starts to play and you'll see MPC-BE can't start playing & crashing )

For the great work they've done with the new GUI they also introduced many new bugs (also related to the GUI it seems :confused:) which makes the this BE mod on par or even a step backward by comparison with MPC-HC

Also the decision to make MPC-BE to override the audio/subs setting of any external filter (e.g. LAV) it's a bad one

ATM MPC-BE it's more unstable (ironically do to the new improvements to the GUI it seems :) ) than MPC-HC
which seems to prove that going overboard with GUI changes without a large base of testers /different systems (keeping everything secret until the the "official" release ) it's a very poor decision BUT since it is actively developed (not like MPC-HC :) ) I hope they'll manage to fix all the new bugs

P.S. Still don't understand the reason of keeping the code "secret" between releases !
This just make people to wait for their updates/releases to get the new bug (which like I've said are many ATM) fixes that are already in the SVN? instead of allow people to compile their own builds immediately that a fix is available and maybe contributing to the project too( in any way) :eek::confused:

Aleksoid1978

27th September 2012, 10:00

Yes - when use preview file opened little longest, because graph is build 2 times.

About SVN in free access - we just do not want that MPC-HC's team taken out source without any effort :).

About this bug by opening windows explorer (full screen) go to a BD folder (video file) open the index.bdmv or the m2ts file and try to close the explorer window clicking on the X button before MPC-BE starts to play and you'll see MPC-BE can't start playing & crashing - my English knowledge is poor, but as i understand this - and can't reproduce this bug. If can - make video and upload to understand what happened.

Mercury_22

27th September 2012, 10:15

alexins

27th September 2012, 10:46

Like in Vipz's case "preview in the search" must be on and while trying to close the explorer window the mouse pointer must go over the MPC-BE's window
Yes, I confirm that this problem exists.
Here's the video (http://rghost.ru/40600623).

Any suggestion on how (what program to use) to make the video ?
Try the program Snagit 11, it allows you to make high-quality video from a computer screen

P.S. Still don't understand the reason of keeping the code "secret" between releases !
Here, the problem is not that the mpc-hc will use our code. But the fact that exist other projects (a very well-known to all), free and commercial, which maliciously steal code from others, and then use it to generate a profit. We just don't want to help them stay ahead of us.

Aleksoid1978

27th September 2012, 10:58

Yes, I confirm that this problem exists.
Here's the video (http://rghost.ru/40600623).

I can't reproduce ...

Mercury_22

27th September 2012, 11:01

Yes, I confirm that this problem exists.
Here's the video (http://rghost.ru/40600623).

Try the program Snagit 11, it allows you to make high-quality video from a computer screen

Thanks for the tip ! and your video says it all

bozek

27th September 2012, 11:03

Hey, I love what you guys have done with the player so I'd just like to take this opportunity to express my thanks to everyone who put their work into the MPC-BE project. Months of effort have finally come to fruit... respect!

detmek

27th September 2012, 16:43

alexins

27th September 2012, 16:52

Hi. I have a problem with MPC-BE GUI and madVR. See here:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1593178#post1593178
I can not reproduce the problem with MPC-HC or PotPlayer but I can with MPC-BE 1.0.3.0 and 1.0.3.1.

For your problem created ticket #32 (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php?action=helpdesk;sa=ticket;ticket=32)

detmek

27th September 2012, 16:58

OK. Thanks. BTW, good job. I really like new look and Preview Seekbar.

vBm

27th September 2012, 18:12

About SVN in free access - we just do not want that MPC-HC's team taken out source without any effort :).

Good one ;) ROFL

Aleksoid1978

27th September 2012, 23:50

Good one ;) ROFL

Enjoy MPC-BE team ???

Aleksoid1978

28th September 2012, 07:08

Who want that internal logic to select audio & subtitle track do not break External splitter functional try - http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/1250/mpc-be_x86_1250.7z
Just uncheck this:
http://s018.radikal.ru/i518/1209/8e/689e91e23e54t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radikal.ru/i518/1209/8e/689e91e23e54.png.html)

Mercury_22

28th September 2012, 09:00

alexins

28th September 2012, 09:05

Thanks for giving us an option! It's working

It is very good, this option will be added in version 1.0.3.2.

kasper93

28th September 2012, 11:51

About SVN in free access - we just do not want that MPC-HC's team taken out source without any effort :).

You know, it is working in both ways. No one can help you, for example in translations. :o It's open source spirit to share code and let everyone to contribute :) I don't know why you hate MPC-HC's team so much. And you need to remember that you also integrate MPC-HC patches in MPC-BE, don't you? :D

Here, the problem is not that the mpc-hc will use our code. But the fact that exist other projects (a very well-known to all), free and commercial, which maliciously steal code from others, and then use it to generate a profit. We just don't want to help them stay ahead of us.

You can't stop this. If you want to keep your code private and want to be ahead everyone else you may consider making your own not open source player form scratch... But I understand what you mean :)

Aleksoid1978

28th September 2012, 12:44

You know, it is working in both ways. No one can help you, for example in translations. :o It's open source spirit to share code and let everyone to contribute :) I don't know why you hate MPC-HC's team so much. And you need to remember that you also integrate MPC-HC patches in MPC-BE, don't you? :D

You can't stop this. If you want to keep your code private and want to be ahead everyone else you may consider making your own not open source player form scratch... But I understand what you mean :)

We share source - and who want give us translate, don't worry. About other help - who want we include in our team :)

About MPC-HC's path - I do not deny it and this is indicated in the log of changes.

Aleksoid1978

28th September 2012, 12:54

I don't know why you hate MPC-HC's team so much

It's not me hate MPC-HC's team. As you remember - your "leader" has deprived me of access to SVN just like that, not at all.

Although if you just remember - I've done a lot for the MPC-HC project, far more than any one of the existing member of MPC-HC's team.

ryrynz

28th September 2012, 13:59

Rather than get into this discussion again, I think the forum is best served understanding that this is and will remain a separate project from HC. The reasons for this really are no longer important and discussing them no longer serves a purpose.

JEEB

28th September 2012, 14:17

First of all, congrats on your first releases of your fork. Great to see various work being done on the code base.

It's not me hate MPC-HC's team. As you remember - your "leader" has deprived me of access to SVN just like that, not at all.
There were problems on both sides I think. Him being what he is, and you not always pushing the right buttons to make matters better. It takes two for tango, as they say.

But thankfully, that is all in the past now :)

Rather than get into this discussion again, I think the forum is best served understanding that this is and will remain a separate project from HC. The reasons for this really are no longer important and discussing them no longer serves a purpose.
Yup. Completely agreed. All that matters is that development is done in the end, as open source is open source. As long as the source is available, someone will be able to reap the best parts of a project even after the original developers have moved to other fields and/or areas.

Haven't gotten a chance at reviewing the MPC-BC stuff yet, but after I get through doing some other unrelated stuff I might take a look (there is at least one settings application and at least one video demuxer+decoder combo I need to finish up first).

Armada

28th September 2012, 15:03

Here, the problem is not that the mpc-hc will use our code. But the fact that exist other projects (a very well-known to all), free and commercial, which maliciously steal code from others, and then use it to generate a profit. We just don't want to help them stay ahead of us.
About SVN in free access - we just do not want that MPC-HC's team taken out source without any effort :).
This seems awfully inconsistent. We are committed to improve MPC-HC while keeping it open and free, I hope you will also come to the conclusion that rivalry will help no one.

xtremegamer

28th September 2012, 17:32

Hi...

Great player, and theme is nice, i think Audio output is little bit low i have checked Normalize option.......

ikarad

28th September 2012, 21:42

@Aleksoid1978

I find another problem with sub. I don't find a bug tracker for mpc-BE and I post the problem in bug track of mpc-hc because the problem is the same.

https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/2617
problem:
At the beginning of this video (beginnning credits), subs flash. With directvobsub, subs are displayed without flash

file: http://www.speedyshare.com/ms96k/Hiryuu-Maken-Ki-04-Hi10P-1280x720-H264-D6466060.mkv

It works with xy-vsfilter but I must switch because xy vsfilter doesn't work well with pgs file and it's not a native solution.

Are there any plans to merge xyvsfilter with mpc-BE sub renderer?

Sylt

28th September 2012, 22:32

This we have added in the source code of June 1, 2012, and we have the best location of the controls.

But the Outputpage of MPC-HC looks better, see the screenshot.

At the request of users, by default this entry is disabled. If this option is needed, then everyone can enable it in the settings.

Were I can find the Option to enable?

Alas, but the function "Save Thumbnails" works badly, many attempts might fail with the transition to a minidump

MPC-BE uses the old Dialogs, MPC-HC the new one (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/changeset/5421/trunk)

Questions about MPC-BE:
Why MPC-BE uses the old dialogs, although purport to be a more modern player?
Why MPC-BE uses the old libflac and the libpng, but when the MPC-HC does not require both?
Either I'm wrong, or MPC-BE don't support Video scrubbing..

Sylt

28th September 2012, 22:37

It's not me hate MPC-HC's team. As you remember - your "leader" has deprived me of access to SVN just like that, not at all.

Assumed XhmikosR would be ousted, you would then merge the MPC-BE with the MPC-HC project?

Here, the problem is not that the mpc-hc will use our code. But the fact that exist other projects (a very well-known to all), free and commercial, which maliciously steal code from others, and then use it to generate a profit. We just don't want to help them stay ahead of us.

Could you enlighten me please? I know nothing about that there is a commercial code stealer...