Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[huhn]

@huhn
yes, the file was slowed down (by eac3to)...that is done by many people for some time who want to view movies in original speed...
ok, Bluray is becoming more and more popular; but for TV series DVD is still an option, if you do not have unlimited HDD Volumen; thats why eac3to provides this option to slow down ... but this does not make any sense if the slowdown works only for audio and no for Video...

it worked for video it changes the 25i to 23i. and there is no rule that said you can't use this with a 25i TV show that results in a true 50p video. the problem is the interlaced flag that clearly says this file is interlaced so a deinterlacer is needed and the result is 47p. the weave options simply disables the software deinterlacer and let the renderer deinterlace the file.

BTW. you can use madVR, madVR IVTC and reclock to do this on the fly without converting the DVD frist.
you can find this options under devices -> your device name-> display modes. or just use madVR on the converted file it will not deinerlace it because it is not 25i or 30i

[huhn]

Hi guys!
I have a 5.1 to 7.1 analog output question.
Since I got 7 speakers, when a movie only has 5.1 audio, only the rears work. Is there no option or plugin that upmixes to 7.1 in MPC or lav filters etc? I have tried some stuff but nothing works.
Thanks!

try AC3 filter and set output format to 7.1

[Aleksoid1978]

shaolin95
huhn

Use internal mixer:
http://i.imgur.com/871L7my.png

work with any audio decoder.

[shaolin95]

shaolin95
huhn

Use internal mixer:
http://i.imgur.com/871L7my.png

work with any audio decoder.

I will try this tomorrow for sure! :thanks:

[huhn]

shaolin95
huhn

Use internal mixer:

work with any audio decoder.

is it possible to add a LFE crossover?
at the moment the MPC-BE mixer isn't using the LFE channel at all when up mixing a source without a LFE channel.

this is a huge problem for systems with a subwoofer. if the source doesn't have a LFE channel and the output has one a LFE crossover should be used.

here some example screens using ffdshow audio processor:
MPC-BE 2.0 -> 7.1 without ffdshow LFE crossover: http://abload.de/img/nolfecrossover0pub0.png
MPC-BE 2.0 -> 7.1 with ffdshow LFE crossover: http://abload.de/img/withlfecrossoverp2ufs.png

an option for don't touch stereo like lavfilter has would be nice too.

[v0lt]

is it possible to add a LFE crossover?
Theoretically it is possible. We have libavfilter and we need a parameter string to convert stereo to 5.1.
But the parameter string is just the beginning, full implementation will take more time.

[shaolin95]

is it possible to add a LFE crossover?
at the moment the MPC-BE mixer isn't using the LFE channel at all when up mixing a source without a LFE channel.

this is a huge problem for systems with a subwoofer. if the source doesn't have a LFE channel and the output has one a LFE crossover should be used.

here some example screens using ffdshow audio processor:
MPC-BE 2.0 -> 7.1 without ffdshow LFE crossover: http://abload.de/img/nolfecrossover0pub0.png
MPC-BE 2.0 -> 7.1 with ffdshow LFE crossover: http://abload.de/img/withlfecrossoverp2ufs.png

an option for don't touch stereo like lavfilter has would be nice too.
Ok but to clarify this is only an issue if the source has no LFE only? Meaning if I am upmixing frmo 5.1 to 7.1 then i am all good, right?

[huhn]

Ok but to clarify this is only an issue if the source has no LFE only? Meaning if I am upmixing frmo 5.1 to 7.1 then i am all good, right?

yes, no problem with a 5.1 source.

[shaolin95]

Cant wait to get home to test this!

Thanks man! :)

[arrgh]

the file work as it should be.
the pal 25i file was slowdown to 23i (24000/1001) which is not an official spec of DVD, BD or any me known broadcast.

because the file is still interlaced it is deinterlaced from EVR CP using DXVA deinterlacing to 47p (48000/1001). the weave option doesn't over write this.

I guess powerDVD isn't deinterlacing after seeing the refreshrate like madVR.

in my opinion this is a bug...

even Window MediaPlayer plays this clip with the right speed without jerking....

also if I pack this clip into a mkv with set framerate to 2400/1001, MPC-BE is unable to play this right. But my understanding is that the container frame rate superseeds the elementary stream settings. MPC-BE should accept this frame rate, recognize that this can only be progressive, and play this as requested. If it thinks the stream must be deinterlaced, than it should do it, but maintain the 2400/1001....

I have learned meanwhile that Restream.exe and ProjectX are able to set the "scantype" to progressive and than also MPC-BE manages it correctly. That requires a complete re-write of the file. In my opinion that should not be necessary...

edit : I'm using only the internal filters

[shaolin95]

shaolin95
huhn

Use internal mixer:


work with any audio decoder.
Excellent. I had issues finding the option until I realized it is only on the latest commits. Now just need to figure how to get this one to work with SVP and MADVR since I installed the SVP which already comes with mpc pre-packed but that shouldnt be hard.
Thanks a ton!

[filler56789]

in my opinion this is a bug...

even Window MediaPlayer plays this clip with the right speed without jerking....

also if I pack this clip into a mkv with set framerate to 2400/1001, MPC-BE is unable to play this right. But my understanding is that the container frame rate superseeds the elementary stream settings. MPC-BE should accept this frame rate, recognize that this can only be progressive, and play this as requested. If it thinks the stream must be deinterlaced, than it should do it, but maintain the 2400/1001....

I have learned meanwhile that Restream.exe and ProjectX are able to set the "scantype" to progressive and than also MPC-BE manages it correctly. That requires a complete re-write of the file. In my opinion that should not be necessary...

edit : I'm using only the internal filters

You have a point. IIRC, the FFmpeg/Libav based MPEG decoders "enforce" the 'official' playback rates, which is pretty silly IMHO.
AFAIR, the Cyberlink decoder does not have such a limitation, and e.g., if you wrap an MPEG-2 stream in a 48fps MKV file, it will let the video be played at 48fps. After all, there are several differences between a standalone DVD player and a personal computer ;)

[huhn]

in my opinion this is a bug...

even Window MediaPlayer plays this clip with the right speed without jerking....

also if I pack this clip into a mkv with set framerate to 2400/1001, MPC-BE is unable to play this right. But my understanding is that the container frame rate superseeds the elementary stream settings. MPC-BE should accept this frame rate, recognize that this can only be progressive, and play this as requested. If it thinks the stream must be deinterlaced, than it should do it, but maintain the 2400/1001....

I have learned meanwhile that Restream.exe and ProjectX are able to set the "scantype" to progressive and than also MPC-BE manages it correctly. That requires a complete re-write of the file. In my opinion that should not be necessary...

edit : I'm using only the internal filters
but if you deinterlace a 24000/1001 you get 48000/1001.

BTW the file works totally fine at 23p and EVR CP for me.

@filler56789
and what should happen when the needs the official playback rates? break these file that are created correctly?
i can argue that the remuxed MKV should run at 23p but the stream interlaced flag is obviously used and not the container informations.

[v0lt]

@arrgh
You can disable deinterlacing.
View->Options...->Internal Filters->Video decoders->Video decoder configuration->Deinterlacing = Progressive

[Arm3nian]

What's with the mpc audio renderer? I switched over from mpchc because the audio renderer didn't actually work, would stop playing here and there. Works fine on mpcbe sound wise but there is another problem. I set lav to output 32bit float, but mpcbe somehow outputs 32bit int which isn't even supported by my soundcard, yet I can hear the audio. Also made a test track at 384khz sample rate, which my soundcard doesn't support, but mpcbe downsamples to 192khz, which makes no sense since it's using wasapi?

http://i.imgur.com/MLcyobE.jpg

[Aleksoid1978]

Arm3nian
1 - Most sound cards do not support real 24-bit and only padded to 32(Windows always show only 24bit :) ).
2 - If you try to playback source with unsupported parameters(channel, sample rate) for you soundcard - renderer get list of supported modes and use "best" of them(close by parameters).

Everything has been done for maximum convenience :)

[v0lt]

Also made a test track at 384khz sample rate, which my soundcard doesn't support, but mpcbe downsamples to 192khz, which makes no sense since it's using wasapi?
You need silence? Click on the speaker icon.

[Arm3nian]

Arm3nian
1 - Most sound cards do not support real 24-bit and only padded to 32(Windows always show only 24bit :) ).
2 - If you try to playback source with unsupported parameters(channel, sample rate) for you soundcard - renderer get list of supported modes and use "best" of them(close by parameters).

Everything has been done for maximum convenience :)
Okay so the 32bit int is actually 24 padded to 32, did the text not fit? :) My soundcard (motherboard realtek) doesn't support actual 24 as you said, just the padded 32. So if I were to use an external DAC that actually supported real 24bit input then that is what mpcbe would output? Thanks
You need silence? Click on the speaker icon.
Nope just experimenting. Looks like mpcbe is smarter than reclock and other renderers when it comes to wasapi, as others would just say not supported or not play anything.

[Aleksoid1978]

Nope just experimenting. Looks like mpcbe is smarter than reclock and other renderers when it comes to wasapi, as others would just say not supported or not play anything.

Yes - you are right.

[Lord Maius]

I would like to update italian translation (.txt file) but i can't connect to SVN repository....

[v0lt]

At the moment I can offer this archive - mpc-be_5818_translations_txt.zip

update: mpc-be_5823_translations_txt.zip

[Lord Maius]

At the moment I can offer this archive - mpc-be_5818_translations_txt.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/04hbkpndl3izqb1/mpc-be_5818_translations_txt.zip)

Thank you v0lt

[Lord Maius]

Link for last italian translation: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sngpvhqkzsmujq2/mplayerc.it.rc.txt?dl=0

[feelingblue]

Good morning and congratulations for your work.

Is possible to access (in DXVA mode) to the "Fluid Motion" option in the latest release of the AMD driver?

thanks

[v0lt]

Is possible to access (in DXVA mode) to the "Fluid Motion" option in the latest release of the AMD driver?This is not possible.

[salam2009]

Could you please add the ability to change scenes while moving the slider/bar without releasing mouse button?
This is helpful for fast seeking needs.

[Azpidatziak]

Hi MPC-BE Team,

I update Basque translation and attached here it.

What is about WebSVN? I can't connect to it.

:thanks:

[v0lt]

Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 (build 5854) Win32 (stable release):
Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x86 (with installer) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20Win32/MPC-BE%20Win32%201.4.3/MPC-BE.1.4.3.x86-installer.zip/download)
Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x86 (without installer) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20Win32/MPC-BE%20Win32%201.4.3/MPC-BE.1.4.3.x86.7z/download)
Standalone Filters Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x86 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20Win32/MPC-BE%20Win32%201.4.3/standalone_filters-mpc-be.1.4.3.x86.7z/download)

Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 (build 5854) x64 (stable release):
Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x64 (with installer) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20x64/MPC-BE%20x64%201.4.3/MPC-BE.1.4.3.x64-installer.zip/download)
Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x64 (without installer) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20x64/MPC-BE%20x64%201.4.3/MPC-BE.1.4.3.x64.7z/download)
Standalone Filters Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 x64 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20x64/MPC-BE%20x64%201.4.3/standalone_filters-mpc-be.1.4.3.x64.7z/download)

Source Code:
Media Player Classic - BE 1.4.3 Source Code (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/MPC-BE%20Source%20Code/MPC-BE%201.4.3%20Source%20Code/MPC-BE%201.4.3%20Source%20Code.7z/download)

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Beta versions 1.4.4.x:
Nightly Builds (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/), Source code (http://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/HEAD/tree/), Change log (http://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/commit_browser)

[wanezhiling]

We need hevc dxva support.:thanks:

[foxyshadis]

We need hevc dxva support.:thanks:

Recent builds of LAV Filters (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191) enable DXVA for HEVC.

[v0lt]

Recent builds of LAV Filters (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191) enable DXVA for HEVC.
This is not DXVA, this is hybrid crutch.

[nevcairiel]

This is not DXVA, this is hybrid crutch.

Actually, that entirely depends on what the GPU does with it.
LAV implements proper DXVA2 HEVC decoding, and nothing else. If the GPU in the end only does hybrid acceleration or full decode acceleration is not relevant at that point. The beauty is that once a GPU supports full acceleration, the same code in LAV will also work.

[foxyshadis]

Like nev says, fixed function or hybrid is the implementation, DXVA is the player interface, so it doesn't matter how it's implemented. Fixed-function HEVC doesn't exist today, but to players nothing will change when it does, it'll just play faster and lower power.

[madshi]

JFMI: Does the LAV DXVA2 HEVC decoding support higher bitdepths and 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 output? At least 10bit 4:2:0 output would be nice, because that's what UHD Blu-Ray will probably use.

[nevcairiel]

The HEVC DXVA2 spec only covers Main and Main10 profiles (ie. Version 1 of the spec), so 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 are definitely out. If 10-bit 4:2:0 is supported depends on if the GPUs will output it as a 10-bit surface (ie. P010). Once I get my hands on one that supports 10-bit decoding, i'll let you know.
Presumably the upcoming NVIDIA GTX960 has a new decoder block with full hardware acceleration and 10-bit support, and I might just get one for my HTPC, so I can see then.

[v0lt]

Ok. But at the moment we (the developers) do not have a device that supports HEVC DXVA. Therefore, we will not say anything about the possibilities and dates.

[wanezhiling]

Presumably the upcoming NVIDIA GTX960 has a new decoder block with full hardware acceleration and 10-bit support
:eek: Let it happen.


Ok. But at the moment we (the developers) do not have a device that supports HEVC DXVA. Therefore, we will not say anything about the possibilities and dates.

A haswell gpu or a kepler gpu is enough.

[wanezhiling]

http://i3.tietuku.com/6d994e91ef428001.png

The program crashes immediately after I click 'Reset' button to initialize everything, all settings are really reset though.

here is dump file: https://www.sendspace.com/file/qpg31h

[v0lt]

The program crashes immediately after I click 'Reset' button to initialize everything, all settings are really reset though.I can not repeat it.

[arrgh]

an other, this time already many times discussed issue for MPC :

(I'm using only internal filters and always mkv; exclusively with internal Audio/Sub streams)
even when in the internal mpeg2/DVD-filter "always show forced subtitles" is chosen, they are NOT shown...
depending whether Subs are globally switched off or not, no Subs are shown or always the first Sub, independent whether it is a forced Sub or not...

veeeerrry annoying...will there ever be a solution? this Problem is around already for years...

[wiak]

how can i find the log files? and some of my BD isos seem to fail
they work when i mount them as virtualdrive with HaoZip (http://haozip.2345.com/Eng/index_en.htm)

MPC-BE 1.4.3.5823.x64 in its own folder with default settings file

[v0lt]

how can i find the log files?
Player does not write any log. There is a log in debug mode when run from a Visual Studio.

[beter]

If the language files aren't changed after rev. 5854

Update for Dutch and Chinese Traditional:

[v0lt]

@beter
I do not know why, but I can not download the attachment. Please share the files in another place.
Translations updated in rev. 15.

@Translators
Actual text files for translation are at this address.
http://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/src/apps/mplayerc/mpcresources/text/

[foxyshadis]

They should be available now.

[ryrynz]

Switching subtitles through LAV results in a drop in audio for about a second, MPC-HC is a fraction of this and switches a lot faster.

[Aleksoid1978]

Switching subtitles through LAV results in a drop in audio for about a second, MPC-HC is a fraction of this and switches a lot faster.
Example file please.

[ryrynz]

Example file please.

Example.mkv (https://mega.co.nz/#!vdBXWTpA!sstjTkoo6tRqFyIPbHKGGX_t5nN9DrnJXyaC4fLFxL8)

[Aleksoid1978]

Example.mkv (https://mega.co.nz/#!vdBXWTpA!sstjTkoo6tRqFyIPbHKGGX_t5nN9DrnJXyaC4fLFxL8)

I compared with MPC-HC - the same behavior and the switching time, the sound disappears the same that in MPC-BE, that in MPC-HC.

[THX-UltraII]

Is it already possible with MPC-BE to play 3D blu-ray movies?