Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[huhn]

try this codec tweak tool:
https://www.codecguide.com/download_other.htm#:~:text=Scan%20the%20registry%20to%20detect,source%20filters%20(a.k.a.%20splitters).

i have not used it in a very low time.

looks like you have bloated your ds filter a bit.

[LenniePaz]

I have no idea how ac3filter got on my PC, and I couldn't find it under Programs. I downloaded the ac3filter installer, installed it, then uninstalled it. That seems to have removed all traces of ac3filter, and now it doesn't show up under filters while playing a video. That also solved my bitstreaming issue. PCM is gone now, and bitstreaming now works with MPC-BE.

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[hidendarkman]

Hi Guys.
i dl source mpc-be and succeeded compiling.
now How we can to change the design of the skin + theme + position buttons:
Seek Bar
Controls Panel
Status Bar .
example i want add a bottom for full screen !
How do this ? we need to know MFC?
thanks in advance.

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi Guys.
i dl source mpc-be and succeeded compiling.
now How we can to change the design of the skin + theme + position buttons:
Seek Bar
Controls Panel
Status Bar .
example i want add a bottom for full screen !
How do this ? we need to know MFC?
thanks in advance.

There is no "skin" in MPC-BE.
Want do some changing - look at PlayerToolBar.

[LenniePaz]

Any tips on using my Harmony One with MPC? What key maps make for a better experience?

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[kissglay]

Don't know if the latest alpha (1.6.0.6659) supports 3rd party online streaming, like "https://www.khanacademy.org/math/geometry-home/triangle-properties/altitudes/v/proof-triangle-altitudes-are-concurrent-orthocenter", using yt-dlp. When opened by MPC-BE, it's showing "Opening..." like forever.
But this one can be opened using MPC-HC, also by utilizing "yt-dlp"
Looks like MPC-BE did open that link but stuck and dead at some point.

[Aleksoid1978]

Check "https://www.khanacademy.org/math/geometry-home/triangle-properties/altitudes/v/proof-triangle-altitudes-are-concurrent-orthocenter" using yt-dlp - opening and playing, all is ok.

[kissglay]

Check "https://www.khanacademy.org/math/geometry-home/triangle-properties/altitudes/v/proof-triangle-altitudes-are-concurrent-orthocenter" using yt-dlp - opening and playing, all is ok.

I found the problem. I had a --write-auto-subs inside "%AppData%\yt-dlp\config", which cause MPC-BE to hang. The other switches, which I had in config can live with MPC-BE with no problem.

Don't know if it's a bug, but MPC-HC seems not affected by this switch.

[Aleksoid1978]

With "--write-auto-subs" yt-dlp generate 109 links for subs :)

[v0lt]

1.6.0.6670 alpha: How do you use the FFMPEG audio filters? (let's say Normalizer for example)
You can only use the "compand" filter. It is easy to understand if you reveal the drop-down list.

Documentation for filter "сompand" - https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#compand

[Perenista]

I am having a problem with MPC-BE's "RESUME playback from where you left". A specific video I created with DVDFab's help is always crashing (black screen and not allowing me to go forward or back).

But if I use MPC-HC this isn't happening.

I believe the way this file was created is what's causing this. Or perhaps the video decoders currently being used in MPC.

MEDIAINFO:
https://pastebin.com/zaUFy29b

Any idea what went wrong?

[v0lt]

@Perenista
Upload the file so we can reproduce the problem and see what happens in debug mode.

PS: Your MediaInfo report is incomplete. There is not enough information about the container.

[Perenista]

@Perenista
Upload the file so we can reproduce the problem and see what happens in debug mode.

PS: Your MediaInfo report is incomplete. There is not enough information about the container.This is a sample:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJUJeHEw-oI8SbBa0FGjoqYEF9lmQdFy/view?usp=sharing

Even this one can't be played fine with MPC-BE. I noticed in MPC-HC resume playback doesn't work only with this one. And if this feature is turned on for MPC-BE there will be crashing.

Using MPC-BE you are only able to play this file again if you hit control + alt + del, then reopen the program and disable "resume file from where you left".

There is something broken inside this, because it's resisting the idea of resuming.

The best explanation is that DVDFab did something wrong while reencoding.

[Aleksoid1978]

This is a sample:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJUJeHEw-oI8SbBa0FGjoqYEF9lmQdFy/view?usp=sharing

Even this one can't be played fine with MPC-BE. I noticed in MPC-HC resume playback doesn't work only with this one. And if this feature is turned on for MPC-BE there will be crashing.

Using MPC-BE you are only able to play this file again if you hit control + alt + del, then reopen the program and disable "resume file from where you left".

There is something broken inside this, because it's resisting the idea of resuming.

The best explanation is that DVDFab did something wrong while reencoding.

Perfect playback. Test in Software/D3D11/DXVA2 decoding. Test with EVR-CP/MPC VR.
Using only internal filters.

1 - Check what filters use when playback.
2 - Disable DXVA decoding for HEVC.

[clsid]

Working here as well.

Which GPU do you have? Try without hardware decoding.

You should also test if remuxing the file with MkvToolNix makes any difference.

[lvqcl]

What filters are active?

Menu "Play" -> "Filters" -> "Copy filters list to clipboard" and paste it here.

[Perenista]

The problem is still present for me. And believe me when I say only for this file.

This is the list of filters:

MPC-BE 1.5.8.6302
Filters currently loaded:
- Default DirectSound Device
- MPC Video Renderer (externo)
- ffdshow Audio Processor
- MPC Video Decoder
- Audio Switcher
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Matroska Source

Other settings:
https://i.postimg.cc/0y6nGZb9/SETTINGS.jpg

Also, as I said before, no GPU. Relying on the i7 4770 only.

Note: you need to open this file twice. Test "resume playback" if it will work. If you open only once, it will be OK, not when you resume from where you left. *

* A screenshot from the frozen MPC-BE screen:

https://i.postimg.cc/QN4c61LC/FROZEN.jpg

[lvqcl]

Also, as I said before, no GPU. Relying on the i7 4770 only.

It has integrated GPU, no?

Anyway, your screenshot says "Formato de saida: D3D11(HEVC)" and "Adaptador grafico: Intel HD Graphics 4600". IIUC it means that MPC Video decoder tries to use hardware decoding (from HD4600?). Don't know why... it shouldn't.

Try to disable hardware decoding manually.
Try newer version of MPC-BE (current is 1.6.0.6679 alpha).

[v0lt]

This is the list of filters:

MPC-BE 1.5.8.6302
Filters currently loaded:
- Default DirectSound Device
- MPC Video Renderer (externo)
- ffdshow Audio Processor
- MPC Video Decoder
- Audio Switcher
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Audio Decoder
- MPC Matroska Source
1. If you have a bug, try a nightly build. Your problem may have been fixed.
2. Disable or remove ffdshow Audio Processor.

Also, as I said before, no GPU. Relying on the i7 4770 only.
3. Your processor has an integrated Intel HD 4600 GPU. This can be seen in the decoder settings.
4. As far as I know, your GPU does not support HEVC decoding, but the decoder is trying to decode with D3D11 for some unknown reason. Disable D3D11 support in the decoder or disable hardware HEVC decoding.

[Perenista]

Disabling hardware HEVC recording fixed the problem.

From here (it was enabled, now I turned it off):
https://i.postimg.cc/zfCLcn1R/HEVC.jpg

If I disable D3D11 from here it will not fix: https://i.postimg.cc/WzbsSZ2j/D3D11.jpg

I mentioned here before that my video card broke, so I am relying on the onboard video from this old CPU. I had to disable several things for a few videos to run, for the time being. This is better explained in this thread:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1952164#post1952164

[Sunspark]

Hi,

What is the difference in functionality in the sound processing options between "Gain" and "Auto Volume Control"?

They are mutually exclusive and I think they work differently even though while both promote a volume increase, they don't sound the same as each other.

Gain can be increased to a maximum of 10.0 dB and Auto has the preset defaults of level 75, release time 8.

Is gain just a uniform increase of volume beyond 100% or is it different?

To explain my scenario, 6-channel E-AC3 audio down-mixed to 2-channel results in spoken dialogue being very quiet. The Windows Film&TV app automatically boosts the volume to where dialogue is clearly audible, there is no setting for it, it does it on its own. What is it doing differently? Is it decoding and mixing the sound differently? Or is it just automatically applying a gain or auto boost on its own?

Trying to determine what is the best method of volume amplification for 6-channel E-AC3 down-mixing here.

Thanks!

Edit: I looked up a chart, an applied gain of 3 dB will result in a volume of 200% if your volume was already set for 100%. So that means it is a uniform volume increase and not a normalization. I'm now wondering if MPC-BE would benefit from a little hollow circle icon or something next to the speaker icon, so when it is clicked it fills solid and automatically toggles gain on or off and I guess the exact # for it would remain in the sound processing options.

Edit 2: Auto volume is awful, it will boost that soft little background music during quiet moments up high.

[beter]

Hello. I am encountering stuck playback issue. Since r6532, on Windows 7 (Tested with 2 Windows 7 pc's. I think there is no problem on Windows 10), if MPC Audio Renderer is being used with WASAPI Shared mode, my video files with flac audio track(s) cannot be played properly unless I choose any other non-flac audio track. It is also problematic when I load an external flac audio during video playback.

Can anyone else reproduce this problem?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hello. I am encountering stuck playback issue. Since r6532, on Windows 7 (Tested with 2 Windows 7 pc's. I think there is no problem on Windows 10), if MPC Audio Renderer is being used with WASAPI Shared mode, my video files with flac audio track(s) cannot be played properly unless I choose any other non-flac audio track. It is also problematic when I load an external flac audio during video playback.

Can anyone else reproduce this problem?

Test on latest SVN - https://disk.yandex.ru/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last

[beter]

Test on latest SVN - https://disk.yandex.ru/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last

Sorry for my bad expression. "Since r6532" means all builds from r6532(actually r6533) to the latest available build on yandex at the moment of my report, in other words r6683.
Last working build for me is r6531

[Aleksoid1978]

Sorry for my bad expression. "Since r6532" means all builds from r6532(actually r6533) to the latest available build on yandex at the moment of my report, in other words r6683.
Last working build for me is r6531

Upload sample file.
Show MPC AR settings and statistic when playback.

[beter]

Upload sample file.
Show MPC AR settings and statistic when playback.
I have tried it again. In the latest build it happens on Windows 7 when the flac track is NOT default track or when it is an external audio. After switching to the flac track, the playback would be stuck. Perform a seek may resume the playback(not always), but there will still be no sound.

Sample file: https://www.sendspace.com/file/7wloba


screen capture during the playback
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mR6VhQm335pXkXLqSUGqoK4X8v2We8j3/view?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/eWd3oUY.jpg

Setting of MPC AR
https://i.imgur.com/cw9Zlzq.png

[beter]

Oh, Even if the flac track is the default track, the playback is still abnormal on Windows 7. I suddenly realised that if the flac track is default in the mkv file, the MPC Audio Renderer simply is not loaded, and it falls back directly to Default DirectSound Device.

[v0lt]

@beter
I have not been able to reproduce the problem on my Windows 7 x64.
There may be a slight delay when switching tracks, but then playback continues.

[beter]

@beter
I have not been able to reproduce the problem on my Windows 7 x64.
There may be a slight delay when switching tracks, but then playback continues.
I have just found out it is also related to the setting of HD audio driver.

If the default format is set as 16bit 48000Hz or 24bit 48000Hz, the problem occurs (it will be normal by selecting anything else). Updating the driver does not solve the problem. Again, the problem does not occur on Windows 10 with same setting (48KHz as default, MPC AR WASAPI Shared mode, etc).

It is quite strange, even if Realtek did something wrong in the driver, I cannot see any reason why it can accept 96KHz but not 48KHz, and only when the player is playing flac format?

Anyway, if you can eventually reproduce it, it would be better to mention it as known issue in changelog. But may be it does not worth fixing it at all, as there should not be any problem by setting 96KHz simply (and Realtek's stock value was 44.1KHz as far as I remember).


https://i.imgur.com/9L9rXSp.png

[Aleksoid1978]

Fixed.

[P.J]

Looks like corruption. Reinstall ESET and check your file system and hardware.

I tested it on another PC too but no luck. ESET doesn't have problem with other programs :confused:

[bozek]

Forgive me a bit of OT, please. What kind of CPU (number of cores / frequency) is needed for software-only decoding of 4K H.265?

[huhn]

there is no answer to that because not every h265 stream has the same difficulty.

frequency and core number don't tell a real story about the performance too.

[bozek]

Well, when 1080p became a thing in 2008 with the coming of Blu-ray, no single-core CPU at the time was able to decode it but even a mediocre dual-core CPU with about 1.8+ GHz was enough. Following the same logic, seeing as 4K has about 4 times as many pixels as 1080p we would need about 8 cores @ 2GHz or 4 cores at 4GHz... Sure, H265 is more power hungry but this should cancel out with how much the CPU architecture advanced since then. Does my math seem okay to you?

[huhn]

a zen 1 is massively slower in h265 decoding compared to a zen 2 no that's not how it works.

if you only care about UHD BD spec H265 than every hardware decoder is more than fast enough for it.

a dual core zen 3 with 4 GHZ would be able todo 100 mbit 10 bit.

core number and frequency are pointless.

[lvqcl]

a dual core zen 3 with 4 GHZ would be able todo 100 mbit 10 bit.

I tried to limit my Intel i5 11th gen CPU to 2 cores and play jellyfish-140-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv. All I got is massive stutter.
So I really doubt that Zen3 with 2 cores can decode it in realtime.

[huhn]

but luckily i said 100 mbit which is/could be massively easier.
and we both know your CPU is "faster".
https://abload.de/img/140s3j02.jpg
close

maybe if i take the good cores only... but what ever as i said pointless anyway.

edit: because i'm not going to test it with all teh possible H265 encdoing settign which may or may not effect decoding speed.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NwBzp70DqbsN-NeKUsrorOgUedPyb_nu/view?usp=sharing) based on r6696 :)

[wushantao]

https://anonfiles.com/51mex4W4u0/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z
https://files.catbox.moe/9vk2r0.7z

Update Simplified Chinese：）

[s0meone_new]

Hungarian translation updated:
https://www43.zippyshare.com/v/xH7K0CIZ/file.html

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189, @wushantao, @s0meone_new
Thanks. Updated in r6700 and r6702.

[cmhrky]

Latest Turkish translation (https://www.sendspace.com/file/oki4ue) based on r6703.

[cmhrky]

My usage: Options > Player > New process for every file
First process paused. When the file played in the newly opened process is added to favorites with the shortcut key (Shift+Q), the favorite list is deleted.

[v0lt]

cmhrky
Thanks. Translation updated in r6704.

I changed how favorites work in r6705. Check when a new build is available.

[Sunspark]

The option "Use system layout channels" in the MPC Audio Renderer, what is the effect if this option is checked or unchecked?

[v0lt]

The option "Use system layout channels" in the MPC Audio Renderer, what is the effect if this option is checked or unchecked?
1. Set "stereo" in system setup.
2. Open a media file with "5.1" sound.
3. Change the "Use system layout channels" setting (don't forget to apply), and look at the Status tab of the active MPC Audio Renderer.

[clsid]

With that option disabled you will run into problems when playing 5.1 on a stereo setup or headphones. No mixing means that excess channels will simply be dropped, and a dropped Center channel means no voices or at least super low volume.

Is that intentional? What is the use case of wanting to do that?

[v0lt]

Is that intentional? What is the use case of wanting to do that?
I gave an example of how to see the option work. The number of channels in the media file and the system may not be the same as I said (it could be the other way around - "stereo" -> 5.1).
This option is old and I don't remember why it was added. It is possible that some audio devices do not need to specify the system channel layout.

[Sunspark]

In old posts there was talk about how checking or unchecking it was needed for some people with 7.1 systems/headphones to send the correct number of channels. As far as I can tell, if you're on a stereo system you don't need to have it checked because of down-mixing.

But, here is an interesting thing I have noticed, the MPC-BE app has mixing in two separate places. In the Sound Processing options under channel mixer, you can select "Stereo" and it will down-mix from 5.1. The MPC Audio Renderer also has a mixer built-in as well. If you don't have the sound processing option checked, and are not using mixing using anything else (e.g. Windows shared, or LAV) the MPC renderer itself will downmix to stereo, visible in the filter properties status (status screen says input 5.1, output 2.0, it is not clear to me whether it is dropping channels and presenting the appearance of mixing).

I think there is a slight audible difference between the two down-mixing implementations. That's ok, because every down-mixing implementation I have listened to sounds slightly different. But given how tightly coupled the renderer is with the app, I question whether it makes sense to maintain two separate mixing code paths. Is the renderer actually down-mixing, or is it dropping channels?

PS. v0lt, the directsound renderer is busted, the output is super quiet no matter what combination of settings is used. Only the MPC renderer works.

[55trucker]

I've come across an issue where using an HDMI connection to TV thru my new AVR is concerned.

before purchasing this new AVR, the HDMI graphics card was connected Directly to the flatscreen, I had no issue where the programs recognizing each of the two monitors was concerned. The desktop monitor is 1 & the 60" flatscreen is 2, I use fullscreen mode in the program, MPC-BE is the default media player, click to open a movie file & the program instantly goes full screen to to 2.

Now that I am going thru the AVR before going to the flatscreen the program can't find screen #2 automatically anymore. Open a movie file & the image appears full screen on the desktop monitor, to get the image back onto the flatscreen one has to click the mouse to ..1. shrink the image to window size on the desktop 2. click the mouse again to shift the image to 2 where it should be.

I can't rectify this issue at all, I have 2 operating systems on the computer, win7 & 10 (side by side), they both are identical in their programs & they both exhibit this issue.

This issue is only with Black Edition, MPC-HC (version 1.9.13) is also on the op/sys & it functions without any issue, what can we do to correct this disruption?

thx