Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Siso]

Is this really a issue in MPC-BE?
Maybe it's related to the OS or any program running on the pc of the two guys?
I had never any issue on any pc here at home, it doesn't matter AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics with an AMD/Intel CPU. Had every possible combination and used both Windows 7 and 10.

In mpc-hc everything is fine, even in vlc. The problem is only iwth mpc-be.

[chros]

Quick question: can we seek in YouTube clips? (using 1.5.2 beta (I don't remember the build number))
Yesterday I wanted to do so and I couldn't. Thanks!

[chros]

Sorry for the false alarm: it was LAV splitter that buffered the data and that's why seeking didn't work. All is good with the internal splitters.

[mogli]

Whenever I update my soundcard drivers the MPC audio renderer is resetted to the primary audio device although I use a different one with MPC-BE.

Why is this happening? No other software I have does this and the names of the audio devices stay the same all the time anyhow.

[Klaus1189]

1.) What audio chipset and driver?
2.) What OS? Complete, like Win 7 SP1 64-bit or Win 10 18.03 64-bit
3.) What device do you use normally and what device for MPC-BE?
4.) Do you have your device you use for MPC-BE selected as default in audio settings of OS?

[Grimsdyke]

I have the same problem as Mogli but I always thought I am the only one so I never posted this. (Win10 64bit on a AsRock J4205-ITX)

[Klaus1189]

So you also have two different audio devices connected to you pc, where the first is set as default device, but the second one is used in MPC-BE?

[Grimsdyke]

Dual-audio-out in MPC-BE activated and one output is HDMI (TV) and the other is Analog-7.1 (Receiver).
After driver update BE looses the HDMI device and falls back to default and although the TV is set to default in the OS settings there is NO sound !!! So I always have to renew this setting in BE.
This happens also sometimes when I change the refresh rate of the TV.
No big issue but still somewhat annoying.

[Klaus1189]

Why not simply one HDMI connection from pc to AVR and then HDMI to TV?

[v0lt]

I do not recommend updating the drivers when the player is running.
I recommend using DirectSound for dual audio output (MPC Audio Renderer may not work correctly in this mode).

[mogli]

I do not recommend updating the drivers when the player is running.The player isn't running while updating. That's the point: How does MPC-BE even know the driver version changed and why does it trigger a device change in such a situation?

[huhn]

when updating GPU driver the sound device is removed and added after installing again and it is not unusual that the "new" audio device is set as default by windows or GPU driver installer.

so mpc-BE may not see it as the same device after updating

[v0lt]

@mogli
1. Do you have a problem with MPC Audio Renderer only? Does DirectSound work fine?
2. What version of MPC-BE?
3. Which version of Windows?

[Aleksoid1978]

Dual-audio-out in MPC-BE activated and one output is HDMI (TV) and the other is Analog-7.1 (Receiver).
After driver update BE looses the HDMI device and falls back to default and although the TV is set to default in the OS settings there is NO sound !!! So I always have to renew this setting in BE.
This happens also sometimes when I change the refresh rate of the TV.
No big issue but still somewhat annoying.

With HDMI output sound is "not easy" - windows can change device guid in system after reboot. It also depends on what to run first - the computer or the receiver. I use HDMI output and suffer from it sometimes.

[Aleksoid1978]

Whenever I update my soundcard drivers the MPC audio renderer is resetted to the primary audio device although I use a different one with MPC-BE.

Why is this happening? No other software I have does this and the names of the audio devices stay the same all the time anyhow.

What WASAPI mode use - Exclusive or Shared ?
Do you enable "Exclusive mode" in audio settings in system.

[Zero3K]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

Can you give me more details - how i can run, parameters and so ...
I never using StreamBuffRe and nothing don't know about it software.

[Klaus1189]

I just recognized that MPC-BE.1.5.2.3818.x64.7z from https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.2.3818 is always a 0 Byte file.
But MPC-BE.x64.7z from https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last is fine. Very strange.

[v0lt]

Klaus1189
Maybe the "disk space" is over.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

It's StreamBuffRe very strange.
I can connect, but can't read data from it.
Use InternetReadFileExW() for read data - it's always return 0.
So - when using only internal filters, for data read using system source filter - File Source(URL).

P.S. it's don't accept connection if User-agent contains space or -. It's very strange limitation.

[Matching_Mole]

Is this really a issue in MPC-BE?
Maybe it's related to the OS or any program running on the pc of the two guys?
I had never any issue on any pc here at home, it doesn't matter AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics with an AMD/Intel CPU. Had every possible combination and used both Windows 7 and 10.

I speak for myself (I don't know for Siso) but I think the issue is related to the way I run MPC-BE.

For specific needs, I used a small program (in C++ in Qt) I written to select and analyse the files i want to play (mkv, DVD or Bluray), change some options (screen resolution, Lav and Reclock option,...) and run MPC-BE using a specific Qt procedure (QProcess::startDetached). This mean I don't use MPC-BE directly to select file at any stage. This is why, I agree with one previous comment that it seems the issue is related to some kind of "lost" focus.

So, as I use MPC-BE differently than most of the user, this does not mean that the issue is specific to me but more than it is present for all but in such specific condition that other does not experience it.

The only thing is I use this program for a long time now, and I did not have the issue with very old MPC-BE version (3 or 4 years ago) or recent MPC-HC version.

[Zero3K]

Can you give me more details - how i can run, parameters and so ...
I never using StreamBuffRe and nothing don't know about it software.

You type/copy+paste a stream's URL into the URL box of its main window and press enter and then double click it in order for it to open in the default player (holding Shift when double clicking results in it loading the stream in a new instance of the player). I have set the "Path to mpc executable" in the MPC Player section of its Settings to the location of MPC-BE x64.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3826

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3831

[Zero3K]

I am still running into issues with StreamBuffRe when using build 3825 of MPC-BE. It still stops showing the Twitch stream every now and then even though it didn't disconnect according to StreamBuffRe. Also, the stream will randomly be paused as soon as its being viewed.

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thank you. Updated in r3837.

[Anima123]

There's no updated nightly builds anymore since 3842, is it a problem after upgrade gcc to 8.20?

[ryrynz]

Volt hasn't updated his builds recently, just use Aleksoid's (https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK) if you want 3850

[Zero3K]

I have another error with it and StreamBuffRe. When I use it as the player in StreamBuffRe and visit a URL such as https://www.twitch.tv/videos/292508749 (which is inputted into the URL bar of StreamBuffRe and then the resulting playlist entry is double clicked on), I get a "failed to render" error.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3856 :)

[P.J]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/117901

[beter]

Update translation Chinese (traditional/Simplified), Dutch and Japanese based on 3856.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/o3z0pl

[steakhutzeee]

Dumb question, here https://www.videohelp.com/software/MPC-BE i can see both Beta and Nightly. It's normal that after i install the Nightly, in MPC BE i see "1.5.2 (build 3858) beta"?

[Aleksoid1978]

Yes, it's normal.

[Aleksoid1978]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/117901

Upload problem DVD.

[v0lt]

Klaus1189, beter
Thank you!
Updated in r3859 and r3860.

[v0lt]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
IMHO, here are a few different methods of deinterlacing. Artifacts are present on both screenshots.

There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.
You are confusing something, the "MPC Video Decoder" can not be used for the DVD-Video mode. It uses "MPC MPEG Video Decoder".

[mv]

Hi guys! Thanks for great work!

Is it possible to enable screensaver when video playback is paused in fullscreen mode with madVR as render?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi guys! Thanks for great work!

Is it possible to enable screensaver when video playback is paused in fullscreen mode with madVR as render?

MPC-BE don't prevent screensaver when playback is paused. Maybe it's madVR.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing). I had to fix one little issue.
@v0lt: I beg to check if this longer string fits the appearing window.

[Klaus1189]

It's perfect :)

[Manni]

Hi everyone,

Not sure if I should post this here or in LAV thread, so please tell me if it should be moved. I'm using MPC-BE with internal subs renderer, LAV and MadVR, as per sig below.

I have an issue with forced subtitles when playing UHD Blurays rips.

When I play an original disc in my UHD Bluray player (a Panasonic UB900), say Black Panther, the forced subtitles are automatically shown whenever characters are not speaking in English.

If I rip my original disc with AnyDVD HD as a folder, when I play it MPC-BE / LAV select the main movie correctly, but the forced subtitled aren't played. If I select the English track, then all the dialogue is subtitled, instead of only when the characters speak in English. Selecting "Forced Subtitles" in LAV Splitter doesn't help, as it never displays any subtitles.

If I rip my original disc with MakeMKV, I have the same behaviour if I don't select the "forced sub tracks" during ripping. If I do select the forced subs tracks, then I can get forced subs only, but I have to select the correct track manually, unless I remix the mkv with the forced sub track set as forced, which is what I'm doing at the moment. It's not always easy to identify the right track and it's of course time consuming.

Even if it takes a bit more space, I would also prefer to rip my discs as folders because mkvs don't save the Dolby Vision information. Folders is also easier/faster for TV Series and extras if using a player that supports BD Menus (such as a Dune player) for that type of content.

Is there a way to get the same result as what I get automatically with my standalone UHB Bluray player (only forced subs to be played when characters don't speak in English), without having to manually remux the mkv (and lose the Dolby Vision info)?

Thanks!

[nevcairiel]

Without the menu there is no way to know which track is supposed to be used for forced subtitles. If the default choice doesn't work, you have to pick the right track manually.

[Manni]

Without the menu there is no way to know which track is supposed to be used for forced subtitles. If the default choice doesn't work, you have to pick the right track manually.

Thanks. What I don't understand is how MakeMKV can extract the forced subs and create a special track with only forced subs (then doesn't mark that track as forced to make sure it plays by default, but that's a question for Mike).

If there is a way to create a forced subs only track without the menu (as makemkv doesn't have access to the menu either), how come it's not possible to play it by default?

That's what I don't understand.

[nevcairiel]

Its possible to create it, its just not possible to know which track to create it from. MakeMKV also doesn't tell you that, you have to manually select the track you want - or just process all the tracks, and MakeMKV deletes those afterwards that turned up empty.

[mv]

MPC-BE don't prevent screensaver when playback is paused. Maybe it's madVR.

False alarm - rechecked and it is actually Kodi who is preventing screensaver from starting!

Another, possible lame, question. Is it possible to disable/hide mouse cursor when player is starting in fullscreen mode? Each time video is started there is a short moment when mouse pointer blinks in the center of the screen.

[Manni]

Its possible to create it, its just not possible to know which track to create it from. MakeMKV also doesn't tell you that, you have to manually select the track you want - or just process all the tracks, and MakeMKV deletes those afterwards that turned up empty.

OK, I get it now, thanks. So remuxing after a first makemkv pass and setting the non empty one to forced is the only way to get the correct forced subs track to play.

[nevcairiel]

I think it should set force tracks to forced anyway? You can also set the stream flags during the initial rip with MakeMKV for every stream separately.
Also in MKV you don't need to remux to change stream flags, you can just edit those in the header.

[Klaus1189]

False alarm - rechecked and it is actually Kodi who is preventing screensaver from starting!

Another, possible lame, question. Is it possible to disable/hide mouse cursor when player is starting in fullscreen mode? Each time video is started there is a short moment when mouse pointer blinks in the center of the screen.

Assuming you are using Kodi and MPC-BE as external player, simply don‘t use/move mouse, only use keyboard, which will prevent mouse Pointer to show up. If you move mouse it will show up again. Just try it: 1.) Play a file. 2.) Press ALT + X and play another file without moving the mouse, then the pointer won‘t show up.

[mv]

@Klaus1189
I'm using only IR remote which emulates keyboard but sometimes I connect with remote desktop and after I do that cursor keeps appearing in the center of the screen for a short but noticeable moment. Taking into account that I don't reboot HTPC often and use sleep mode it means that cursor shows up almost always. Not a big problem of course but somehow annoying.