Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Klaus1189]

Users become impudent?:(

sadly, but not me ;)

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3646

[rock]

Users become impudent?
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.png.html)
:(
I was talking about put it on Options>Audio>Sound processing. Yeah, it's part of MPC Audio Renderer, might be not good idea to put the option there.
If I sound impudent because of that, I'm really sorry.

[JarrettH]

Can perhaps the Subtitle menus be combined?

You have right click > Subtitles (to access subtitle options and to enable)

And right click > Navigate > Subtitle Language (to change the subtitle; you can also enable here too, which overlaps in functionality)

Doesn't make sense that these are separate. Why do I need to access a different subtitle menu to change the language?

[Aleksoid1978]

For subtitles use SUB button on toolbar, left/right mouse button.

[Mercury_22]

Bug: wrong black levels with MPC-BE's EVR-CP with some files. Sample (https://ufile.io/pwizl)

MPC-BE's internal video decoder outputs correct black levels with all EVR, EVR-CP and madVR
LAVVideo decoder outputs wrong black levels with EVR-CP, but correct black levels with EVR & madVR

LAVFilters-0.71.0-35 MPC-BE 1.5.2.3648 Windows 7 x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Bug: wrong black levels with MPC-BE's EVR-CP with some files. Sample (https://ufile.io/pwizl)

MPC-BE's internal video decoder outputs correct black levels with all EVR, EVR-CP and madVR
LAVVideo decoder outputs wrong black levels with EVR-CP, but correct black levels with EVR & madVR

LAVFilters-0.71.0-35 MPC-BE 1.5.2.3648 Windows 7 x64

If it's happened only with LAV Video Decoder - it's not MPC-BE fault :)

[Mercury_22]

If it's happened only with LAV Video Decoder - it's not MPC-BE fault :)

OK but then why LAV + EVR or Sync or madVR outputs the correct black level ?

[v0lt]

@Mercury_22
The driver settings may be affected. The "Output range" option may be affected. In any case, LAV Video Decoder does not report the nominal range.

[nevcairiel]

If the file does not expose a range, then none is reported. Limited Range should always be assumed to be the default by the renderer in such a case.

[v0lt]

@nevcairiel
Yes, but we got a more correct result if the decoder reports the nominal range. I do not remember the exact reason why we did this (maybe it was the effect of the settings of the video driver, it sometimes does not work as expected by the user).

I will not deny that the EVR-CP in this case may not work correctly. But the solution to this problem is not obvious, and other negative effects may appear.

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese (Traditional/Simplified) and Dutch
https://www.sendspace.com/file/b3wsda

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3647.

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r3650.

[ryrynz]

With the improvements made to the mpc audio renderer I've switched from sanear. Aleksoid, have you compared them at all? Look at the code or found any benefits with either over the other?

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/1.5.2%20%28build%203656%29%20beta/) with a digital signature was released. (SF.net)

[bozek]

When I was installing that version I received two error dialogs (with OK button only). 'Runtime Error' and 'Out of Space (.)' error

[Klaus1189]

When I was installing that version I received two error dialogs (with OK button only). 'Runtime Error' and 'Out of Space (.)' error

No problem on my computer with Windows 10 Pro 1709 64-bit and MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64 build from SF.net.
What OS do you use? Not only (for example) "Windows 10", please complete like "Windows 10 Pro 1803 64-bit"

Can you upload a screenshot on google drive or similar and post link here, do not attach the file here, other users won't see the pictures.

[v0lt]

@bozek
I can not confirm (MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64, Win7sp1).
Please make a screenshot of these errors.

[bozek]

I should've stated that the installation was completed so those error dialogs were probably irrelevant. During the second installation I only received one of them.

https://i.imgur.com/cAzM4JY.png

[Klaus1189]

1.) Do have another computer you can run MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64 build installer from SF.net?
2.) On the computer with this error dialog: Uninstall MPC-BE completely, then reboot and run installer again. -> what happens?
3.) Did you "install" (run installer) a previous version just like that or unzipped you the portable version of the older one?

[v0lt]

@bozek
Run the installer this way.
MPC-BE.1.5.2.3656.x64.exe /LOG=mpcbe_install.log
And upload somewhere the resulting log file.

[bozek]

https://pastebin.com/YeSLbzvK

When I tried to install the x86 on another computer I got the second error dialog as well.

https://i.imgur.com/YUJ3ces.png

[v0lt]

@bozek
I think the problem is related to the need to reboot due to the unavailability to remove MPCBEShellExt64.dll.

[bozek]

I don't think it is. Here is another attempt after uninstallation and reboot.

https://pastebin.com/FzgYHYKr

Like I said, the installation is completed everytime and the program works just fine so it's probably a wild goose chase.

[v0lt]

@bozek
Ok. Now I think the problem is in the PinToTaskbar function. It uses cscript.exe and this can be a problem.
Try to disable the "Pin to Taskbar" option during installation.

[beter]

MPC-BE freezes when playing this video with corrupted DVB subtitles.

In the sample below, the DVB subpicture at 00:00:10 is badly received due to signal problem, but MPC-HC 1.7.11 can show it without crashing. Meanwhile MPC-BE cannot show the subtitle, starts eating CPU resources and freezes/crashes after seeking.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/gzcfe4

The corrupted subpicture:
https://i.imgur.com/SuQojWP.png

[v0lt]

@beter
I fixed the freeze in r3672.

[bozek]

@bozek
Ok. Now I think the problem is in the PinToTaskbar function. It uses cscript.exe and this can be a problem.
Try to disable the "Pin to Taskbar" option during installation.

Nah, that's not it either. When I install, then on the page 'select additional tasks' I leave everything unchecked.

[v0lt]

bozek
Hmm. Please make a log with v1.5.2.3670 or newer - https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK

[bozek]

https://pastebin.com/UppNusj6

[v0lt]

Thank you.
I propose to continue in private messages.

[beter]

@beter
I fixed the freeze in r3672.

Thank you very much:)

[mclingo]

is anyone else finding MPC-BE taking ages to start playing movie, even on a fresh install, its even worse when playing a movie over and RDP connection, VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 movies and TV all start the movie in a timely fashion where MPC can sometimes take 30 seconds to start the movie on RDP, 10-20 locally on my PC.

Once i've played it one locally however it tend to then by much quicker, however RDP it takes ages every time.

I've ask this before and didnt get a really satisfactory answers, or nothing suggested made any difference, all settings are default.

anyone any ideas before i ditch BE?

[Klaus1189]

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?

[mclingo]

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?


Thanks for your response.

win 10 creators

tried latest and several older versions, had this problem for months if not longer

i'm using stock settings, tried using external filters makes no difference

has been happening for ages, through various different GPU drivers versions.

Tried all sorts, fresh boot only loading BE has same issues, nothing seems to resolve this.

I'm not really sure where to start to be honest, a rebuild is out of the question though, it would take me days to do that.

Was hoping someone would know what this was with it just being BE and no other player,

[Klaus1189]

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

[mclingo]

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

Hi, 1709, ATI RX 460. I tried all four LAV filters, aud/vid/spliters. Having had this for a long time i've also gone through several different LAV filter versions, non have made any difference.

i'll have a look on my audio DAW machine, see if I can reproduce it there.

cheers

[Klaus1189]

@v0lt:
Are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere already to check the length of string so it fits?
I am updating translation file based on r3681, but I think Surround level is missing in translation file r3681, I only can find Center level.

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
I did not translate "Surround level", because it was not done and there is no clarity for what it might be needed.

[Klaus1189]

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3684

[v0lt]

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?
Play->Filters->MPC Audio Renderer->Properties->Status

German translation was updated in r3386, 3687.

[galocza]

hi,

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

thank you,
g

[ryrynz]

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

[galocza]

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

[ryrynz]

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Not gonna happen enough to make a difference. Avoid or upgrade are your only real two options.

[lvqcl]

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Do you use 32-bit or 64-bit player? IIRC 64-bit is noticeably faster in HEVC decoding.

[Klaus1189]

I think it is worth to try external lav filters, maybe these require less decoding power, but don't expect miracles since AMD E2-1800 is six year old low end.

[Midzuki]

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

You may try the 32-bit Strongene Lentoid decoder, OR a 64-bit edition of MPlayer (without a fancy GUI, because GUIs are resource hogs). If even then you don't get smooth playback of 720p HEVC on your netbook, then give up and get a better machine.

[galocza]

thank you all for your responses, i appreciate and will try them.
g

[stefanelli73]

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

Upload file(s) for test.