Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Aleksoid1978]

peter0815x - new test build https://yadi.sk/d/H3GEZ5vu4O0StA
Test on 384000 & 705600. No need to uncheck "Use system layout channels".

Log also created on desktop. If 705600 is playback as is - upload log for me.

[peter0815x]

384k is working now with "use system layout channels"

here the log when playing dsd128
(got converted to 705600 hz)

https://www14.zippyshare.com/v/0xgNXfmm/file.html

[Aleksoid1978]

You driver(wasapi) accept 705600. I can't do something with it.

[peter0815x]

and playback dsd nativ ?

(guess this will make probs for people which devices dont support dsd nativ)

[Aleksoid1978]

Maybe somebody whant sponsored for buying usb dac or recivier with dsd native support ?? :)

[peter0815x]

i tested a dsd256 (11 mhz) file with foobar2k.

my yamaha usb dac plays it with 11 mhz in dsd mode
(seems the ess dac supports more than yamaha said :) )


when i try to play the dsd256 file with your test version its played in 192k pcm
so:

dsd64 is played in 352k (sounds ok)
dsd128 in 705k (sounds not good)
dsd256 in 192k (sounds ok)


but most high res files are in pcm and even there you dont hear a (big) difference compared to cd :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

I listen to quite a lot of (DSD64) SACD's that I play on my OPPO. As I run an analogue audio set-up the OPPO transcodes the DSD64 stream to an 88.2KHz/24-bit PCM stream.

Over the years there's been much technical discussion as to why the sample-rate is not higher. But it would seem it's not necessary...

[peter0815x]

may be we need a new format : a mix of dsd and pcm :)
instead of sacd we call it eacd (exteme audio cd)
a format with 2.6 mhz but in 16 bit or 32 and not in 1 bit
for 1 album we need a blu ray with 100gb as disc :)


guess to hear a difference between cd and hi-res you need not only good ears but also very good audio gear.
i use beyerdynamic dt 880 600 ohm headphones but i hear no difference. may be with 1000 € headphones :) .

[SeeMoreDigital]

With regard to DSD to PCM transcoding/conversion it's recommended to use sample-rates at 44.1KHz steps, not 48.0KHz steps. Hence 88.2KHz, not 96KHz ;)

[peter0815x]

guess its the same with blu rays played in 60 hz instead of 24 hz (or 48) :)

do i notice stuttering with 60 hz ? hmm good question ...
may be with a side by side comparison :D

[huhn]

a sample rate is more like up/down scaling similar algorithms are used for this.

and you can blindly assume mastering is done with PCM so dsd is just well...
so if an SACD sounds better it's not because they use DSD.

and about headphones i'm using T5p are they better than dt 990 or dt 880 yes they should be but it is not a gigantic difference the diminishing return of buying a better headphone than a dt 880 is very high.

[Anima123]

Just noticed that vlc team has released the first AV1 decoder dav1d, which they announced very often 100% faster than the libaom decoder.

dav1d: performance and completion of the first release (http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2018/dav1d-toward-the-first-release)

[v0lt]

@Anima123
This news has already been seen. And there is too much PR. In reality, on processors without AVX2, the libdav1d is slower than libaom.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lg3Txt5Uf6ZfUuv03xe7UJ9oADxQat2R/view?usp=sharing) based on r4221 :)

[Zinglar]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

[grimJester]

File / Save Thumbnails is limited to 2560 width, 10 columns and 20 rows. Would it be possible to get 4k thumbnail sheets? (This limitation has been there for a long time, wouldn't be surprised if there's some technical reason it's difficult to get higher resolution)

[Aleksoid1978]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

Temporary - disable DXVA for H264.

[Zinglar]

Temporary - disable DXVA for H264.

Many thanks! That works perfectly. However, are there any implications by doing this? Should I disable it only for problematic videos or should I leave it permanently disabled?

[ryrynz]

Just keep it disabled until it's fixed. It won't hurt anything.

[wushantao]

update Simplified Chinese;)

[Aleksoid1978]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

Fixed. Thanks for info.

[Zinglar]

Fixed. Thanks for info.

Thank you for such a fast response. I guess I'll wait for the next update.

[Klaus1189]

update Simplified Chinese;)

use external hoster, such as Google Drive

I cannot open the file, it is still pending, see here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6ZfEYBtnKKJVoFJCZxdvNBguMVwLLpv/view?usp=sharing)

[wushantao]

use external hoster, such as Google Drive

I cannot open the file, it is still pending, see here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6ZfEYBtnKKJVoFJCZxdvNBguMVwLLpv/view?usp=sharing)
oh... i see, sorry

https://www19.zippyshare.com/v/OIetbyrn/file.html
http://www.solidfiles.com/v/jXXjZYkexjeXg
https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/TEPEGR7Z
https://bayfiles.com/Dbe0F0m4b5/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z

[yonta]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine.

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 51.7 MiB
Duration : 3 min 23 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 2 135 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.23.102

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=90
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3 min 22 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 002 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 2 097 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.072
Stream size : 48.4 MiB (94%)
Title : h264@GPAC0.7.2-DEV-rev944-g0a890c07-master
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 3 min 23 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 125 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 3.03 MiB (6%)
Title : aac@GPAC0.7.2-DEV-rev944-g0a890c07-master
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

[Aleksoid1978]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine.


Thanks for info - wait a fix.

[v0lt]

@wushantao
Thank. Updated in r4237.
But I have a question. Why did you change the previously translated strings?

[SeeMoreDigital]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine...
Just-so-people-know... VLC v3.0.4 plays it incorrectly too ;)

[wushantao]

@wushantao
Thank. Updated in r4237.
But I have a question. Why did you change the previously translated strings?

standardization of translation and unification of sentences:)

[huhn]

is there any reason the wasapi render from MPC-BE doesn't see the 7.1 simulated channels from windows sonic or simply can't use it?

steps to reproduce:
you need windows 10.
go to sounds-> playback device -> your playback device (preferable analogue) -> spatial sound -> select "windows sonic for headphones" _< tick "turn on 7.1 virtual surround sound"

play a 7.1 file with directsound it will render 7.1 as far as i can see.
play a 7.1 file with mpc-be internal audio renderer it shows down mixing to stereo.

[Aleksoid1978]

is there any reason the wasapi render from MPC-BE doesn't see the 7.1 simulated channels from windows sonic or simply can't use it?

steps to reproduce:
you need windows 10.
go to sounds-> playback device -> your playback device (preferable analogue) -> spatial sound -> select "windows sonic for headphones" _< tick "turn on 7.1 virtual surround sound"

play a 7.1 file with directsound it will render 7.1 as far as i can see.
play a 7.1 file with mpc-be internal audio renderer it shows down mixing to stereo.

I thinks besause WASAPI don't support "7.1 virtual surround sound".

[huhn]

is there a way to check this?

i mean this option is from Microsoft itself kind of odd if Microsoft has not seen this combination.

[v0lt]

Hey.
Does anyone have a sample (MOV) with video in 'b16g' (Apple 16-bit Gray) format?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hey.
Does anyone have a sample (MOV) with video in 'b16r' (Apple 16-bit Gray) format?I'm not familiar with that format at all...

[KoD]

A few issues to report:

Player can't resume playback until all the stream has been downloaded. Steps:
- have "Remember file position" enabled in the player options
- open the URL to some long youtube video (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_xqBidOjpQ)
- after 5 minutes or so, stop the playback of the video (using File -> Close)
- open the same youtube URL again
-> playback does not resume when the download of the stream has reached the 5 minutes mark, it only resumes after the entire stream has been downloaded locally; for some youtube reviews that takes 30 or more minutes that's a lot of time to wait.

Another issue is with the xysubfilter external subtitle filter (maybe with the internal one as well).
- start playing some media files with subtitles
- open the xysubfilter properties dialog, and set a subtitle delay on the Timing tab
- close the file
- open the file again (or some other file)
-> the subtitle delay has been reset to zero; in MPC-HC the subtitle delay is kept, and I find it preferable this way (especially when viewing the episodes of a series using external subtitle files with different timings).

[Grimsdyke]

@ devs. A few weeks ago I have sent you (via PM) a few suggestions to improve 'autoload external audio' !! Did you received it ?

[Aleksoid1978]

@ devs. A few weeks ago I have sent you (via PM) a few suggestions to improve 'autoload external audio' !! Did you received it ?

It's already working good. Don't need improvement.

[Grimsdyke]

Well, I disagree but it is your project of course.

[Grimsdyke]

Regarding build 4255. Is there any way in the settings to get the white drop-down menues back ??

[Zulithe]

I actually like the new dark menus a lot, but I wish they were more compact. Too fat. Is that something that could be controlled?

[v0lt]

Regarding build 4255. Is there any way in the settings to get the white drop-down menues back ??
The easy way is to turn off the dark theme. Perhaps in the future it will be possible to turn off the dark menu without turning off the dark theme.

[Grimsdyke]

Perhaps in the future it will be possible to turn off the dark menu without turning off the dark theme.

That would be nice - I really don't like new dark menues. Thx !

[lvqcl]

The easy way is to turn off the dark theme.
But control buttons (Play/Stop/Prev/Next/...) for light theme are ugly... So, +1 for dark theme + normal menus.

[ryrynz]

Option to configure the color of the caption bar as well? That grey doesn't really fit the rest of the theme now, match the playlist border color by default? Thanks.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126219

[Aleksoid1978]

Color of Caption bar - controlled by system.

[ryrynz]

No way to override? If not guess I'll need to tweak it myself.

[hubi73]

Once again, Youtube is causing problems. Now the entire playlist of some albums does not work anymore. Affected are both the internal web parser and Youtube-dl. The Youtube-dl error message refers to country restrictions, but I can play the playlist with Firefox.
On the other hand if I turn off "Load playlist" in MPC-BE a single video from the playlist will work.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E

and a single video from the second playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg&list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E&t=0s&index=3

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kPAb5vE0NM2-fOQGdUieWYsefttaDEn8/view?usp=sharing) "dark menu"

[ryrynz]

Any desire to update the light mode so it looks like the dark mode (icons, graphics) just with lighter colors?
Even MPC-HC ditched that dated design.

I have scale in Windows set to 150%, With right click menu now in dark mode the menu is too large. Change made between 4249 and 4255.

[v0lt]

@Grimsdyke, lvqcl
After r4262, the dark menu can be disabled.