Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Klaus1189]

Only for a specific containier and/or codec? If so, try to disable all internal filters, as source filters and decoders and use external LAV Filters as MPC-HC does. To rule out that as a possible issue. Just wait for other opinions and the devs.

[mclingo]

seems to be anything, mkv, avi, mp4 etc, ive tried using it with stock install settings with LAV filters interal and external and with MADVR too, seems to be an issue with the program itself, llike its looking for something when its loading, then times out and continues.

[mclingo]

it happens mostly when ive not used the program for a few days or have rebooted, it usually does it with the first movie file I play and then plays ok after that but sometimes it will do it again later on but more rarely, so I guess its mainly when I use it for the first time.

I wonder, does it cache my last movie somewhere as if it does and tries to access it or confirm its there or something this might be the problem as if the last movie I played was on a spun down drive this might cause it?

[Klaus1189]

Perhaps the devs provide a debug logging exe for you that writes all it does to a log file. That helped already in the past.

[mclingo]

ive unticked "keep history of opened files", i'll report back if this resolves

[cremor]

Try to close the "explorer" in the playlist panel. Seems like it tries to access all of your drives and this could take some time if you have unreachable network drives or a hard disk that is in standby mode.

[mclingo]

cheers, will try that as well.

[botcherO]

Hello everyone! I switched from mpc-hc to mpc-be (1.5.3) recently and there is one single thing i couldn't find out.
If a video is already playing and i doubleclick another vid, the player stays behind and does not go to foreground after loading the new file. Where is the option for that?

What i don't want is "stay on top while playing", just one "initial set to foreground" like mpc and mpc-hc did.

It seems to work for one time after starting fresh, but if i start the third video it stays behind windows.

[Klaus1189]

How are you opening videos? There are several ways to do that.

[botcherO]

Doubleclick in explorer.

[Klaus1189]

Seems to be working for me, because the new video is in focus when the new file double clicked.

[botcherO]

How much videos did you try while leaving the window open?
It seems to work on the second, but not with the third video and on.

I'm on 1809 x64 if that matters.

[Klaus1189]

I am on 1903 and tried more than 10 videos and it is working fine here.

[stax76]

Hello everyone! I switched from mpc-hc to mpc-be (1.5.3) recently and there is one single thing i couldn't find out.
If a video is already playing and i doubleclick another vid, the player stays behind and does not go to foreground after loading the new file. Where is the option for that?

What i don't want is "stay on top while playing", just one "initial set to foreground" like mpc and mpc-hc did.

It seems to work for one time after starting fresh, but if i start the third video it stays behind windows.

No problem here with mpc-be and Win 10 1903, works fine here.

(in my code I'm calling this: AllowSetForegroundWindow)

edit:

I think this type of issue is typical for malware, antimalware and certain kind of system apps.

[botcherO]

No problem here with mpc-be and Win 10 1903, works fine here.

I am on 1903 and tried more than 10 videos and it is working fine here.

So better check it with 1809 then.
Also the system is clean.

antimalware and certain kind of system apps.
Please specify if there are known issues with thirdparty software, thank you.

[jespermart]

Feature request

Add the possibility to launch a program or bat file when mpc-be starts and stops

[chros]

Feature request

Add the possibility to launch a program or bat file when mpc-be starts and stops

I thought about that too: I want to switch off the TV before the PC goes to sleep, triggered by MPC-BE.
But since I use madvr,. I'm not sure what kind of issues it would raise, so that's why I haven't asked for it.

[Anima123]

Sometimes I got warbled sound from MPC-BE's MPC Audio Renderer just during playing back a video, pause and play will not get the normal sound back. I was suspecting the float output format, but after untick it, the issue still there.

[ryrynz]

You using nightly? I've yet to encounter any issues with it.

[Anima123]

You using nightly? I've yet to encounter any issues it it.

Yes. Hope the issue will be fixed in the near future. I would say it was not that common, perhaps harder for the developer to figure out the culprit.

[Aleksoid1978]

I always use MPC Audio Renderer and it's always perfect playback, no any issue.

[Aleksoid1978]

Feature request

Add the possibility to launch a program or bat file when mpc-be starts and stops

Not planned, sorry.

[v0lt]

@huhn
MPCVideoRenderer-v0.2.1.773+ (https://yadi.sk/d/X0EVMKP4TcmnHQ) supports chroma sample location.

[chros]

Add the possibility to launch a program or bat file when mpc-be starts and stops

I thought about that too: I want to switch off the TV before the PC goes to sleep, triggered by MPC-BE.
But since I use madvr,. I'm not sure what kind of issues it would raise, so that's why I haven't asked for it.

It just popped in my mind, at least for me, probably I could use standard Windows events to fire up a script: e.g. when the computer goes to sleep it can try to switch the TV off. That should work, in theory :)

[huhn]

nice. adding support for more subtitle renderer would make this a perfect default renderer.

if you add support for 16/32 bit texture format you should think about adding dithering. i know the build from JanWillem32 had it maybe it can be ported:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=161047

16 bit should be enough so it could be tested with dx9.

there is a small thing in the OSD which is most likely irrelevant.
if an PNG is loaded with lavfilter the OSD reports inf as the frame rate but lavfilter is supposed to create a 25 HZ file: https://abload.de/img/mpcvrosdyuk4z.png

[v0lt]

there is a small thing in the OSD which is most likely irrelevant.
if an PNG is loaded with lavfilter the OSD reports inf as the frame rate but lavfilter is supposed to create a 25 HZ file: https://abload.de/img/mpcvrosdyuk4z.png
I think this is a LAV Source Filter problem. MPC-HC EVR-CP has a more serious problem with it. MPC VR works correctly and shows in statistics what it gets.
Generate Still Video for JPEG works more correctly.

[Aleksoid1978]

nice. adding support for more subtitle renderer would make this a perfect default renderer.

What you mean "more subtitle" ?

[huhn]

with mpc.hc internal, xy subfilter and assfilter mod doesn't work/connect with it i guess proper support is needed first.

xy subfilter does this on MPB-BE: https://abload.de/img/subtitleissuek9kmc.png

[v0lt]

huhn
https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/blob/master/Readme.md
MPC Video Renderer is a free and open-source video renderer for DirectShow. The renderer can potentially work with any DirectShow player, but full support is available only in the MPC-BE. Recommended MPC-BE v1.5.4.4611 or newer.
XySubFilter supported in DirectX 9 mode.
AssFilterMod not supported in MPC-BE.

[Anima123]

I always use MPC Audio Renderer and it's always perfect playback, no any issue.

It seems that pause the video playback for a while and resume can trigger the issue easily.

[Aleksoid1978]

It seems that pause the video playback for a while and resume can trigger the issue easily.

I understand you - but can't reproduce. Very often using pause/resume.

[Anima123]

I understand you - but can't reproduce. Very often using pause/resume.

Can you try pausing longer? The audio play fine in case of a short period of pausing.

[Aleksoid1978]

Can you try pausing longer? The audio play fine in case of a short period of pausing.

Sometimes i can pause for some hours :)
Do you check "Release device when idle" in MPC Audio Renderer options ? If yes - try uncheck.

[Anima123]

I didn't get "Release device when idle" checked. However, untheck the "Use system layout channels" seems do the trick.

Edit: No, it happened that something else not keeping up with the pace. It just appeared when playing back a video, using MPC Video Renderer.

Edit2: Sanear Audio Renderer has no problem at all for my environment.

Edit3: My htpc setup in using Windows 8.1, configured with an asynchronous usb DA converter, and I am willing to do some tests if developers has some debug build to gather more info about this issue.

And BTW, my other laptop under Windows 10 also has similar issue with MPC-BE's audio renderer, and that one dosn't have an usb audio output.

[Aleksoid1978]

Debug build - https://yadi.sk/d/dOgvRk1TzDgHew
Before start MPC-BE - start DbgView(https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/debugview).

After bug - upload log from DbgView for me.

P.S. What version use ?

[Anima123]

Will get back to you once I got the logs.

I was using MPC-BE x64 1.5.4 (build 4620) beta during previous bug reports.

[Anima123]

Debug build - https://yadi.sk/d/dOgvRk1TzDgHew
Before start MPC-BE - start DbgView(https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/debugview).

After bug - upload log from DbgView for me.

P.S. What version use ?

Got the logs when the issue appeared: https://www.dropbox.com/s/096khjq6x7b7tkk/LEARSALIENWARE.zip?dl=0.

[Aleksoid1978]

Got the logs when the issue appeared: https://www.dropbox.com/s/096khjq6x7b7tkk/LEARSALIENWARE.zip?dl=0.

Nothing suspicious ((

[Anima123]

Nothing suspicious ((

The playing suddenly became like slow-motion, and the audio warbling when it happend, and it reject to get back to normal.

BTW, before the issue occurred, the logs in DebugView is far less frequent than after.

I am willing to help if further testing needed.

[Aleksoid1978]

The playing suddenly became like slow-motion, and the audio warbling when it happend, and it reject to get back to normal.

BTW, before the issue occurred, the logs in DebugView is far less frequent than after.

I am willing to help if further testing needed.

Use EVR-CP.
Make a video from screen(in MPC-BE on statistics - Ctrl+J).

[Anima123]

Use EVR-CP.
Make a video from screen(in MPC-BE on statistics - Ctrl+J).

The stutter didn't show up after watching a 40 minutes video with EVR-CP and MPC Audio Renderer. Does it mean possible bug in the new MPC Video Renderer?

[BetA13]

i have also stutter when using MPC VR, but ONLY if im using 2 monitors..
I watch the video on the right monitor then work on the left one, or browse. Then after some time i get stutter (droped , repeated frames etc).

If i only use ONE Monitor everything is fine..

This does not happen with EVR CP..

i thought im gonna post it also...

Greetz

[Aleksoid1978]

Anima123
BetA13
What mode using - DX9/11, swap effect - Discard/Flip ??

[Aleksoid1978]

The stutter didn't show up after watching a 40 minutes video with EVR-CP and MPC Audio Renderer. Does it mean possible bug in the new MPC Video Renderer?

MPC Video Renderer in developing, if some bug - don't use always :)

[Aleksoid1978]

I'm using DX11 + Flip - there is no any stutter.

[Anima123]

Anima123
BetA13
What mode using - DX9/11, swap effect - Discard/Flip ??

DX9 on my htpc, and swap effect is Discard. BTW, what does the 'swap effect' mean anyway?

[BetA13]

Anima123
BetA13
What mode using - DX9/11, swap effect - Discard/Flip ??


as i understand DX11 only runs on win 8.1 and up.
Since im on windows 7 im using: Dx9 ex and the other one not shure. Ill post a screen, makes it more easy :)

https://i.imgur.com/6oNErNC.png

Information Tab:

DirectX 9
Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (10DE:1189)
VideoProcessor : DXVA2 {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}
DeinterlaceTechnology: PixelAdaptive
Display Mode : 1440 x 900, 75 Hz

and the OSD:

https://i.imgur.com/ZZBv9P9.png


EDIT:
DX9 on my htpc, and swap effect is Discard. BTW, what does the 'swap effect' mean anyway?

looks like we are using very similar config..
+1 on "what does swap effect" mean?

is it like "presentationmode" in EVR-CP ?


Good Morning by the way :)

[v0lt]

@BetA13
DirectX 11 mode works on Windows 8, but we recommend using Windows 8.1.

Current version of MPC VR is 0.2.1.786.

+1 on "what does swap effect" mean?
Different methods of transferring a frame from a texture to a “screen”. "Flip" is considered fast, but has some nuances in implementation. "Discard" is a more stable mode, speed depends on the implementation in the driver.
We did not notice a big difference in speed.

[Anima123]

Unfortunately, the stutter continues to emerge using MPC VR and MPC AR together, no matter what the "Swap effect" is.

[Aleksoid1978]

Unfortunately, the stutter continues to emerge using MPC VR and MPC AR together, no matter what the "Swap effect" is.

Record a video with audio from screen with statistics when stutter.