Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64 [Archive] - Page 12

judelaw

10th January 2013, 16:10

I guess the flybar is a window which is positioned on top of the madVR rendering window?

yes

In that case madVR will never try to go to FSE mode. So how can you solve that? There's no easy solution. The best solution would be to draw the flybar through one of madVR's various OSD interfaces. But that would probably require you to write extra code. You'd have to turn the flybar into an RGB bitmap with an alpha channel. You could probably use a similar technique to make the flybar work for VMR/EVR exclusive mode, too.
OK, I understand you. Thank you.

HoP

10th January 2013, 16:19

2) disabled for MadVR

but i need MadVR :(

thanks anyway :thanks:

Anarchitektur

10th January 2013, 16:35

but i need MadVR :(

thanks anyway :thanks:
you have test version which support flybar in mad (windowed mode, not in exclusive) why you don't read conversation above? http://aleksoid.voserver.net/MPC-BE/mpc-be.exe_Mixer_test.7z

btw. judelaw, flybar work as expected in test version and windowed madvr, thanks
just to ask, is it possible to add support for internal BE OSD for madvr also?

Kn3dL

10th January 2013, 16:51

Is it possible to customize (add a new button - playlist on/off) flybar?

HoP

10th January 2013, 17:55

you have test version which support flybar in mad (windowed mode, not in exclusive) why you don't read conversation above? http://aleksoid.voserver.net/MPC-BE/mpc-be.exe_Mixer_test.7z

btw. judelaw, flybar work as expected in test version and windowed madvr, thanks
just to ask, is it possible to add support for internal BE OSD for madvr also?

sorry,i read conversation but i didn't see the link ;)
thanks for the link ;)

sexus

10th January 2013, 19:40

No, that torrent is too slow for me, I have many avi files myself.

1.1.3.0.1737 x86, just disable all BE's internal source filters, and block Haali Media Splitter, no other changes:
See it http://i.minus.com/iFVHZ1lnSvYb0.png

As you see, lav splitter worked fine, haali was blocked.

PS: Even i didnt block haali, the active filter was still the lav splitter (http://i.minus.com/ib0QbH49kUrauY.png) because I didn't register the .avi source filter for haali when installing haali (http://i.minus.com/ip3T1vfAHKAkY.png).
Of course, no .avi for LAV too(I use lav zip which won't register any source filters), there is just no .avi source filter on my system. This means LAV Splitter Source and Haali Media Splitter will be never activated for avi files on mpc-hc, because they are both source filters.

didnt i say that 2 times already that if haali is set to block in the newest version of mpchc be that it works , ive said that already thanks for repeating my words and btw your .avi files arent nothing like the one ive linked too

and if youd visited ranphas site as ive linked too and actually checked how ranphas lav filters pack installs youd know that its automatically installed with .avi being handled by lav splitter since lav splitter is set as source, and haali media splitter just being used for matroska files

http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/

if youd read the file info with mediainfo youd notice it being a specific .avi with a certain combo of filters used that your files most unlikely have

check out http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/topic,1062.0.html

to see the mediainfo output ive posted

once again only if i set haali to block will it run the video file without problems , please fix this

hell even with the latest potplayer it works just like it did with mpchc be 1.0.3.1 without having to block haali

as haali isnt even set as source for .avi , lav splitter is , since the beginning! i repeat haali is only used on matroska

so what is going on

Aleksoid1978

11th January 2013, 02:19

In MPC-HC & MPC-BE we do not have select for what format/extension use Source/Splitter. We just trying to use Source for open file - and Haali do it.

I can use only one thing - disable Haali for ALL *.avi files.

sexus

11th January 2013, 02:25

ranphas lav filter installer does all that already!

and i wasnt specifically talking bout potplayers filter selection feature either , what i meant is it works on latest potplayer and it works on mpchc BE 1.0.3.1 without having to disable haali , but not on 1.1.3.0.1737 except if you block haali in external filters, wich should NOT be required as haali only is used for matroska! so something is wrong

and the rest uses lav splitter , if you use ranphas LAV filter pack

go ahead check it out and youl see what im actually talkin about

heres the download link, make sure to uninstall all your filters before you install the pack, that includes haali with its registry entries, use revo uninstaller or something alike

imouto.my/redirect/32 < paste this into your empty tab

thanks for the effort in advance and hope you can fix this issue

wanezhiling

11th January 2013, 02:54

Could you cut a small sample which can reproduce the issue from your specific avi file by DGSplit or commercial software (boilsoft video splitter etc.) and then upload to http://www.sendspace.com/(needn't register) ?

I'm interested in it.

Guest

11th January 2013, 03:10

Could you cut a small sample which can reproduce the issue from your specific avi file by DGSplit I'm pretty sure you can't cut an AVI with a binary file splitter. But you can open it in VirtualDub, set a range and then direct stream copy to an output AVI.

Aleksoid1978

11th January 2013, 03:24

All right, if you set "Prefered" for Source Filter - this is Source Filter trying to open file at first. Haali support Avi. And file opened throw Haali.

Normally - in Haali must be options for what extensions it's use.

PotPlayer - it's can select for what format use Source Filters. MPC-HC & MPC-BE can't do this.

P.S. - try this http://aleksoid.voserver.net/MPC-BE/mpc-be.exe_1833.7z. I disable Haali+avi.

judelaw

11th January 2013, 08:19

Could you cut a small sample which can reproduce the issue from your specific avi file by DGSplit or commercial software (boilsoft video splitter etc.)

after you cut a small sample from specific avi file (like that "prism-tbup.avi") by any software then it has no problem with Haali already and you can not reproduce the issue.

turbojet

11th January 2013, 08:28

Maybe something wrong with the hardware decoding+MadVR, not only with LAV Video.
There are problems in software mode decoding?

Yes, avcodec, cuvid, quicksync, dxva have same result.

Sexus: pixel shaders you can add shaders by going to edit shaders. I never found the deband ps very effective, less so then gradfun2db (ffdshow) and even less to f3kdb but to each his own.

alexins

11th January 2013, 10:11

Mercury_22

11th January 2013, 10:35

Nightly Builds (mirror on the forum Dev. MPC-BE) (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/board,29.0.html)
Nightly Builds (sourceforge) (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/)

:thanks:
How often will you post new "Nightly Builds" ? (daily ?)

And did you change your mind about After the publication of the MPC-BE 1.1.3.0 we open free access to our svn repository.
:)
:)

wanezhiling

11th January 2013, 10:47

Nightly Builds (mirror on the forum Dev. MPC-BE) (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/board,29.0.html)
Nightly Builds (sourceforge) (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/)

Now its open for public?

Good news to my those "hungry" Chinese friends.:)

alexins

11th January 2013, 12:39

Now its open for public?

About once in one-two days.

SVN repository Media Player Classic-BE (read only): svn://mpc-next.ru/mpc-be/trunk

sexus

11th January 2013, 13:48

after you cut a small sample from specific avi file (like that "prism-tbup.avi") by any software then it has no problem with Haali already and you can not reproduce the issue.

thanks i thought id have to explain it ;)

@aleksoid your mpc-be.exe_1833 , works without disabling haali , what you do different? go back to how 1.0.3.1 was working?

"Normally - in Haali must be options for what extensions it's use."

well this isnt a normal haali install this is ranphas lav filter pack as youve been able to see if youve downloaded it

@turbojet , you think so , i thought ranpha knew what he was doin , so you say raw ffdshow deband filter is better afterall?, cause ive tried both and there is indeed a colour difference using janwillem32s deband shaders wich is better and more accurate in colour compared to ffdshow raws deband , try it out, ive already pmd ranpha to see what he says about this since im confused atm

VipZ

11th January 2013, 15:14

SVN repository Media Player Classic-BE (read only): svn://mpc-next.ru/mpc-be/trunk

Thanks :)

Mercury_22

11th January 2013, 15:49

SVN repository Media Player Classic-BE (read only): svn://mpc-next.ru/mpc-be/trunk

:):thanks:

EDIT Just a thought: it will be nice to have msys_be somewhere where we can check for updates more easily (no need for login), maybe sourceforge or even SVN

jos99

11th January 2013, 22:08

MPC-BE defaults in opening size (no video) to the screen ratio, adding a black border to the logo, is it possible to add another option to wrap to logo, as is default in MPC-HC?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/mpcberewindow.PNG
I can get round the problem, as above, by resizing and ticking "remember last window size" in options, but this isn't ideal as if I resize for some reason, it is no longer wrapped to logo, and it would be useless if I want to use a portrait logo rather than landscape (logo png download (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/mpcbelogwd.png)).

judelaw

12th January 2013, 00:05

MPC-BE defaults in opening size (no video) to the screen ratio, adding a black border to the logo, is it possible to add another option to wrap to logo, as is default in MPC-HC?

use logo only with black background :)
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/91/a9/91a91450fe36fc6f8842301b067b42cd.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/91/a9/91a91450fe36fc6f8842301b067b42cd.jpg.html)

jos99

12th January 2013, 01:05

use logo only with black background :)
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/91/a9/91a91450fe36fc6f8842301b067b42cd.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/91/a9/91a91450fe36fc6f8842301b067b42cd.jpg.html)
I know that works:p, but it is because I want to use a non black logo, that I noticed the problem, I don't really know why MPC-BE adds a black border, or does not wrap to logo as MPC-HC does.

judelaw

12th January 2013, 02:24

I know that works:p, but it is because I want to use a non black logo, that I noticed the problem, I don't really know why MPC-BE adds a black border, or does not wrap to logo as MPC-HC does.

ок, Try it http://gfile.ru/a6BM (mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1843_forTest.7z)
mirror:http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykh3eh
I find the color of the pixel (0,0) logo and fill with this color the rest of the window.
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/b3/ca/b3cadc119b0888294322f833c5228468.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/b3/ca/b3cadc119b0888294322f833c5228468.jpg.html)
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/74/07/740756b394b3482ae9f343641d3fd888.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/74/07/740756b394b3482ae9f343641d3fd888.jpg.html)

Is that better?

jos99

12th January 2013, 04:01

ок, Try it http://gfile.ru/a6BM (mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1843_forTest.7z)
mirror:http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykh3eh
I find the color of the pixel (0,0) logo and fill with this color the rest of the window.

Is that better?

Thanks for this, that's a nice feature:thanks:, but if you want to use an image as a logo like below, that is not 'video shaped', you need a wrap to logo/image option, without borders or setting to screen ratio, and it starts every time like this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/mpcbeamandadavis.PNG

judelaw

12th January 2013, 04:33

Thanks for this, that's a nice feature:thanks:, but if you want to use an image as a logo like below, that is not 'video shaped', you need a wrap to logo/image option, without borders or setting to screen ratio, and it starts every time like this

try this: mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1843_forTest_02.7z - http://www.sendspace.com/file/gsjv4n
mpc-hc/be - the same (borderless, frameonly modes), not good
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/20/dc/20dc287421d05217b9e5ce37d109e896.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/20/dc/20dc287421d05217b9e5ce37d109e896.png.html)

jos99

12th January 2013, 13:40

try this: mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1843_forTest_02.7z - http://www.sendspace.com/file/gsjv4n
mpc-hc/be - the same (borderless, frameonly modes), not good
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/20/dc/20dc287421d05217b9e5ce37d109e896.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/20/dc/20dc287421d05217b9e5ce37d109e896.png.html)
Thanks, I see even MPC-HC has black edges if you select no borders, is there a technical reason for this:o? Comparing both with borders, MPC-BE adds black edges on top & bottom compared to MPC-HC:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/mpcbevsmchcPNG.PNG

one problem is I don't know how to get MPC-BE to default to video size (& wrap borders to video) when playing a video so when I play a video with a tall background like this it is looking wrong (I have to manually select View>Zoom> Autofit every time I restart MPC-BE):

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/mpcbeplayintall.PNG

in MPC-HC it defaults (I think) to 200% zoom on small videos (360x240), & shows other videos at 100%, or fit screen.

jos99

12th January 2013, 14:35

With different image, MPC-BE adds grey edges on top & bottom

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35202345/evanrachelwoodmpcbe.PNG

............think this might be a bug in MPC-HC & BE just changed to a different background & I got same edges above & below, it only occurs on a restart if you select 'frame only'.

judelaw

12th January 2013, 17:19

Thanks, I see even MPC-HC has black edges if you select no borders, is there a technical reason for this:o?

I don't know.

Comparing both with borders, MPC-BE adds black edges on top & bottom compared to MPC-HC:

comparison is not correct (HC+Caption, BE-Caption) :)

one problem is I don't know how to get MPC-BE to default to video size (& wrap borders to video) when playing a video so when I play a video with a tall background like this it is looking wrong (I have to manually select View>Zoom> Autofit every time I restart MPC-BE):

O->Playback->Auto-zoom

judelaw

12th January 2013, 17:32

With different image, MPC-BE adds grey edges on top & bottom

I see no difference
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/8a/b2/8ab253af520c94250a0ae87199c4b03f.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/8a/b2/8ab253af520c94250a0ae87199c4b03f.png.html)

............think this might be a bug in MPC-HC & BE just changed to a different background & I got same edges above & below, it only occurs on a restart if you select 'frame only'.
maybe

jos99

12th January 2013, 18:27

comparison is not correct (HC+Caption, BE-Caption) :)

true, sorry I realized:o.

O->Playback->Auto-zoom
Thanks:D, it seems to be set by default in MPC-HC? MPC-HC seems to view small 360x240(youtube) videos at 200% even if you set autozoom to 100%.

I see no difference
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/8a/b2/8ab253af520c94250a0ae87199c4b03f.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/8a/b2/8ab253af520c94250a0ae87199c4b03f.png.html)

maybe
Yes they both show the same issue, I only thought MPC-HC was different as if you set to compact or select frame only, there are no lines above & below, until you restart, doesn't really make sense why, I'll mention it on MPC-HC forum.

judelaw

12th January 2013, 18:40

@jos99
try this: http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1xvu1 (mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1856_forTest_03.7z)
imprecision 1-2 pixels

it seems to be set by default in MPC-HC?
Yes, but we decided to disabled by default this option in MPC-BE. In the era of HD (1080p) does not make sense. :D

jos99

12th January 2013, 18:59

@jos99
try this: http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1xvu1 (mpc-be_x86_vs2012_r1856_forTest_03.7z)
imprecision 1-2 pixels
Perfect! It works, thankyou:D:thanks:. I'll get working on some MPC-BE toolbars:).....

kerimcem

13th January 2013, 00:12

ı try 1 month mpc-be
mpc-be : colors look darker :( ,sharpness bad, design and interface very good..
mpc-hc : colors normal, sharpness good, design and interface very bad..
using the madvr +lav
why?

judelaw

13th January 2013, 00:30

mpc-be : colors look darker, sharpness bad
what do you mean? examples, screenshots, comparison...

kerimcem

13th January 2013, 00:51

mpc-be
http://f1301.hizliresim.com/15/f/hwx2q.jpg
mpc-hc
http://f1301.hizliresim.com/15/f/hwx3b.jpg
same settings(madvr+lav)...mpc-be colors look darker,dark picture :(
mpc-hc version 1.6.6.6525 xhmikosr bulid..

vivan

13th January 2013, 01:07

Looks exactly the same to me.

ryrynz

13th January 2013, 01:22

Yup, different frames make it harder to tell, but from what I see of the colors they're the same.

ryrynz

13th January 2013, 07:24

On Sourceforge the latest version shows as 1.1.0.0.1862 (I know you guys use 1.1.0.0.x for the development version) so are you using this page just for x64 development releases?
Shouldn't that page be for proper releases along with the main forum page here as you already have the nightly folder.

v0lt

13th January 2013, 11:38

same settings(madvr+lav)...mpc-be colors look darker,dark picture :(
TN-Film. The top image is always darker than the bottom.

kerimcem

13th January 2013, 11:40

Looks exactly the same to me.

I have tried 2 pcs 1 notebook side by side watch mpc-be(stable version) colors look darker..(all videos)

judelaw

13th January 2013, 12:00

I have tried 2 pcs 1 notebook side by side watch mpc-be(stable version) colors look darker..(all videos)
http://screenshotcomparison.com

sexus

13th January 2013, 22:06

ok turbojet ive got a reply about your comment on janwillem32s shaders well here it is:

Avisynth-based debanding modules like f3kdb and gradfun2DBmod with custom denoiser are always better than libavfilter’s gradfun (it is not gradfun2DB) and JanWillem32′s PS scripts. Then again, being Avisynth, you need ffdshow raw video filter and also Avisynth frameserver installed, can make initial start of playback slower and make the whole playback potentially unstable.

Between ffdshow’s gradfun and JW r=6 deband PS, they are pretty much the same. The latter takes lots of GPU shaders though, but it works with P010 colorspace, there it is worth it.

link to comparison

http://imgbox.com/acgqoMdv

well there you have it , ive asked for more of his oppinion on wich he prefers, thou it currently does seem that janwillem32 wins

update just got a reply again this finally explains why janwillem32s deband shaders scripts is better :

Go to http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157634 where the JanWillem32 PS script pack is located, and you will find out that there are more than 30 of the deband script files in the archive (I only include the r=6 variants in the installer). Do you know why there are plenty of those deband filters there? The answer is because the deband filters are meant to be stacked. If you only use the deband script once, then the ffdshow deband filter will surely have better result. But if you chained the scripts and fine tune it according to your hardware and quality need, the deband filter can easily match what gradfun can do.

well there you have it , thats a wrap

VipZ

14th January 2013, 14:43

I may have found a bug but need to do more testing to confirm, unless anyone else can also confirm this. This was from trunk on Saturday evening.

The OSD display seems to not timeout and just keep displaying whatever was last displayed.

giannifante

14th January 2013, 15:16

Hello,
2 strange behaviors, player version is mpc-be 1.1.3.0-1737

Bug 1: wrong video length
If I play the following video (10 seconds length), mpc-be shows a wrong length in the status bar (00:46:53). What is very strange is that the bug seems to happen only if the file name is exactly "1.MTS". Renaming the file in, for example, "1 - Copy.MTS" the correct video length is shown when played.
Video: http://www.sendspace.com/file/2g0gtj
Additional info: tried mpc-be 1.0.3.1 and mpc-hc and they have same bug
Screenshot:
http://jpegshare.net/49/9d/499d19dee7668e7a26ee0d39e354a805.jpg.html

Bug 2:
Play few seconds of a video; then press stop button; if you press 'play' again, video will not start anymore.
Additional info:
1. tried with different videos, the bug is is the same
2. mpc-be 1.0.3.1 is ok

Thanks for help

wanezhiling

14th January 2013, 15:24

@giannifante

Try it (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/MPC-BE%20v1.1.0.0%20-dev%20build%201871/).

giannifante

14th January 2013, 15:31

@wanezhiling
tested mpc-be 1.1.0.0-1871
both bug1 and bug2 are present on this version

judelaw

14th January 2013, 15:55

Hello,
2 strange behaviors, player version is mpc-be 1.1.3.0-1737

Bug 1: wrong video length
If I play the following video (10 seconds length), mpc-be shows a wrong length in the status bar (00:46:53). What is very strange is that the bug seems to happen only if the file name is exactly "1.MTS". Renaming the file in, for example, "1 - Copy.MTS" the correct video length is shown when played.
Video: http://www.sendspace.com/file/2g0gtj
Additional info: tried mpc-be 1.0.3.1 and mpc-hc and they have same bug
Screenshot:
http://jpegshare.net/49/9d/499d19dee7668e7a26ee0d39e354a805.jpg.html

???
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/ed/a0/eda0dd697e2a01c847dc0beeef276afc.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/ed/a0/eda0dd697e2a01c847dc0beeef276afc.jpg.html)