Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Grimsdyke]

@devs. I like to use the 'recent files' list to have some files, especially 4k/HDR test/demo files, quickly and easily accessible !!
However, if I use the 'play directory' function these entries are pushed down the 'recent files list' and maybe even get off it altogether. So I would like to see that either:
- files from 'play directory' do not get added to the recent files list
or even better
- a 'play directory' event gets its own entry in the recent files list !! So it could be repeated just as easily as a 'recent file'.

(I know that I could increase the recent files list up to 100 but I don't like that, sorry)

[v0lt]

@Grimsdyke
I advise you to create an additional tab with a playlist, which will be your test files.

[peter0815x]

peter0815x
Here is "final" build - https://yadi.sk/d/eWBbaYPKcP_RLA


:thanks:

works perfect :)

[peter0815x]

i found another small problem :)

its a very old problem
here are 2 wmv videos which are not seekable with mpc be ( mpc hc has same problem)
vlc can seek them.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=146psbNeNU91ev1cQlEbOz6pOAZYuu5d4
(warning xxx)

the files can be fixed with asfbin tool but may be u can take a look.

[Aleksoid1978]

i found another small problem :)

its a very old problem
here are 2 wmv videos which are not seekable with mpc be ( mpc hc has same problem)
vlc can seek them.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=146psbNeNU91ev1cQlEbOz6pOAZYuu5d4
(warning xxx)

the files can be fixed with asfbin tool but may be u can take a look.

Install LAV Filters and seeking is normal using LAV Source.

[peter0815x]

okidoki

i have just 2 or 3 of these old wmv files
guess i just use asfbin for these files
(it can add index for seeking without re-encoding)

thx for looking at it
this was my last problem so far :D

[SirMaster]

Does anyone know if it's somehow possible to use the dual audio output in MPC-BE to send Atmos/DTS:X bitstream out one output and a simple stereo downmix or just the L+R channels as a 2 channel PCM or even 2 channel analog out the other output?

[jespermart]

Would it be possible to add support for BD Menu to Mpc-Be just like River are capeble of using libbluray??

[Aleksoid1978]

Does anyone know if it's somehow possible to use the dual audio output in MPC-BE to send Atmos/DTS:X bitstream out one output and a simple stereo downmix or just the L+R channels as a 2 channel PCM or even 2 channel analog out the other output?

Dual audio output possible only the same type - or Bitstream or PCM.

[Aleksoid1978]

Would it be possible to add support for BD Menu to Mpc-Be just like River are capeble of using libbluray??

If somebody implement it - possible :)

[Grimsdyke]

@devs. Since the volume is so low on my system's DirectSound-HDMI I recently switched to MPC audio renderer and the difference is really huge but unfortunately there are also now drop outs, especially on 4K files.
I am not sure if this is related to the recent fixes you applied based on peter0815x reports or maybe tuesday's Windows patches creates problems but this did not occured until Sunday !!

[stax76]

I've heard this drop out issue in mpc too in following clip:

http://tvdl.zdf.de/none/zdf/diverse/190417_wagenrennen_fj83i_uhd_tex_4328k_p1112v12.mp4

[Aleksoid1978]

@devs. Since the volume is so low on my system's DirectSound-HDMI I recently switched to MPC audio renderer and the difference is really huge but unfortunately there are also now drop outs, especially on 4K files.
I am not sure if this is related to the recent fixes you applied based on peter0815x reports or maybe tuesday's Windows patches creates problems but this did not occured until Sunday !!

Test on old version :)

[Aleksoid1978]

If somebody have audio drop on latest SVN but don't have on oldest version - upload problem files. Also show timing where is drop.

[peter0815x]

I've heard this drop out issue in mpc too in following clip:

http://tvdl.zdf.de/none/zdf/diverse/190417_wagenrennen_fj83i_uhd_tex_4328k_p1112v12.mp4

i tested the file with svn (4545) and wasapi output.
plays without problems for me.

(interesting video)

[stax76]

i tested the file with svn (4545) and wasapi output.
plays without problems for me.

I get the first drop out at 00:00:07

Using default settings, so 'DirectSound System Default' audio renderer.

mpc version/built is 1.5.3 (build 4488)

My primary player is of course mpv...

[stax76]

same issue with b4545

[Aleksoid1978]

I get the first drop out at 00:00:07

Test in MPC-HC ?

[stax76]

I tested 4488 and 4545 and both have dropouts, mpc-hc had the first dropout at 01:00

[Aleksoid1978]

stax76
I test with DS and WASAPI output - there is no drops. See CPU/GPU load when drops is happened.

[Grimsdyke]

I randomly picked 4540 and with this version the problem was even worse - dozens of drop outs/glitches per minute !! So something must have happened with Tuesday's patches. Something was changed that my setup can't handle
properly or maybe even broken.
The only way to at least bypass this issue (for now) that I found is to deactivate 'dual-audio-out' and use the switch within mpc audio renderer to use the analogue-outs when I need them.

[Megalith]

Is there a way to get ASIO output in MPC-BE?

[peter0815x]

Is there a way to get ASIO output in MPC-BE?


here is a asio plugin
http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/2015/12/15/multichannel-directshow-asio-renderer/

(for videos mpc render with wasapi is the better choice)

[Megalith]

here is a asio plugin
http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/2015/12/15/multichannel-directshow-asio-renderer/

(for videos mpc render with wasapi is the better choice)

Thanks, it seems to be working well. But why is WASAPI the "better choice"?

[nevcairiel]

The only reason to ever use ASIO is if your audio device supports nothing else properly (like some "pro" audio devices do), or has actual broken support for WASAPI. Ultimately bitexact audio is bitexact audio, and the API used doesn't make a huge difference.
There is a few other reasons, but none that apply to video playback.

Even more so, there is no reason to force usage of ASIO if the player has no first-class ASIO support in the first place, you just know its going to be worse then.

[peter0815x]

Thanks, it seems to be working well. But why is WASAPI the "better choice"?

with the asio plugin you can get strange noises when you seek a video or when you go from dvd menu to the movie.

seems the asio plugin is playing some noises when the audio stream is interrupted.
may be a bug in asio plugin (or unoptimized plugin)

[Manni]

MPC-BE is giving me problems recently, I don't know if it's due to a recent windows update (I'm on Windows 10 Pro x64 build 1809).

It often hangs or exists when I start playing a UHD BD Folder.

When I play the same title with MPC-HC (I re-installed it to debug), I have no problem.

I tried to completely uninstall MPC-BE, delete the folder and registry and use all default settings (no madVR, nothing, just default internal filters), the issues are still there.

It seems to be worse when MyMovies calls MPC-BE from MCE, but I have issues even when I play the title standalone.

Some titles don't play or only play for a few seconds (The Meg). Other play fine.

Really weird. I never experienced anything like that. I tried to revert to earlier versions, same issues.

I tried different drivers for my 1080ti, 385.28 which usually works fine with everything up to the latest 430.64, still have issues.

Anyone has any idea?

I know that not everyone experiences this, but I've never had a situation like this before.

MPC-BE has always worked flawlessly on my rig, and it's been my player of choice for years.

[chros]

It often hangs or exists when I start playing a UHD BD Folder.
What does this mean exactly? How do you start it? Via File -> Open?
And which MPC-BE version? Latest stable?

[Manni]

What does this mean exactly? How do you start it? Via File -> Open?
And which MPC-BE version? Latest stable?

Last MPC-BE Stable, but also as I said older versions I tried.

I simply drop the UHD BD Folder in the MPC-BE window, or I start the .mpls directly from the "recent files".

Or the title is selected in MyMovies and launched that way (as a BD folder).

I used to have issues only with MyMovies initially, and only with some titles (it started with The Meg), but now even playing a test file such as a HDR pattern from the Masciola's set of UHD test patterns fails. All the movies titles are rips from my original discs, not dogy downloads.

MPC-HC plays all these files/folders flawlessly, and so does jRiver, so it's not the content but something weird that happened with MPC-BE on that rig and can't be undone, even with a full uninstall including reset to defaults and registry section delete.

I have MPC-BE working with these same titles on my MBP, so I know the software is still working for most, I've just never experienced a situation where I couldn't get MPC-BE to work on my HTPC, which is my main rig to play movies.

I'm asking in case someone has experienced something similar recently and has found a solution. Otherwise I'll have to stick with MPC-HC, as it's working fine, but I prefer MPC-BE a lot more.

[Klaus1189]

Manni
Does it happen with all files or just one specific video- and/or audiocodec?
What audio device do you use? Try to use another one for investigation.
Try to disable/enable hardware acceleration. Any difference?
Can you provide a sample UHD BD and another file for testing purposes, but only as p.m.

Devs know more ;)

[Manni]

Manni
Does it happen with all files or just one specific video- and/or audiocodec?
What audio device do you use? Try to use another one for investigation.
Try to disable/enable hardware acceleration. Any difference?
Can you provide a sample UHD BD and another file for testing purposes, but only as p.m.

Devs know more ;)

Thanks, but all these are basic debugging steps.

I'm asking here in case any one has had recently issues with a perfectly working MPC-BE that suddenly stopped working, and found a way to resolve them.

I've spent hours debugging, I've been a MPC-BE users for years, again I have never been in this situation.

I can't give a sample, I've ripped all my files to bd folders. The issue happens with most UHD Bluray folders as I said, so HEVC. Audio format doesn't matter but I can double check that.

Again, all these files/folders used to work fine with MPC-BE until a few weeks ago. They still work fine with MPC-HC and jRiver. So nothing wrong with the files/folders themselves.

I tried using internal filters with defaults after a reinstall of MPC-BE instead of the LAV/MadVR installed in jRiver, but that doesn't help.

I spent a few weeks trying to debug this, and am again only asking in case someone has experienced a samilar issue recently and found a way to fix it.

The only change I've made, which shouldn't play a part when using MPC-BE as a standalone, is installing the 8.8.2 MCE for windows 10 when 8.8.1 stopped working. The latest 8.8.3 doesn't work (can't install it). That could explain issues when launching with MyMovies, but I don't see why it would change anything when using MPC-BE standalone.

[Klaus1189]

System restore possible?

[huhn]

a system restore to get a video player to work when another one does sounds like a bit much...

Some titles don't play or only play for a few seconds (The Meg). Other play fine.

is this consistent?

do you have something like this in an event manager: "Resource-Exhaustion-Detector" ?

[Manni]

a system restore to get a video player to work when another one does sounds like a bit much...

Agreed, plus even if it solved it temporarily it would happen again if cause by an automatic update of some sort. I'd rather find the reason.


is this consistent?


Yes, except that it's getting worse. I started with a few titles, including The Meg, and it would only happen when playing from MCE. I.e. if I tried to play the same title from MPC-BE as a standalonem using the recent file list (so exactly the same plalist as the one played from MCE that crashed), it would work fine. Now it's more titles, and even as a standalone, even simple HDR patterns that MPC-BE has played forever. All these titles that MPC-BE isn't playing anymore, it used to play them fine until a few weeks ago.


do you have something like this in an event manager: "Resource-Exhaustion-Detector" ?

Don't know, will check for this and will report back, thanks.

[Klaus1189]

A system restore point will probably fix it and you can carefully watch every change when it happens again. But you don‘t have to, I only want to help.
A restore point on a HTPC won‘t hurt if you have settings you use already for months.

[Manni]

Okay, so I've got it back to the stage where if I start playback from MyMovies with some titles (for example The Meg), playback doesn't start, and if I go to MPC-BE and look at recent file, the file that was attempted to play is there, and if I play it it plays fine.

Some title won't play (The Meg), others will play fine (Lucy). All UHD Bluray folders. Very consistent. The same titles that don't play do play with MPC-HC (even from MyMovies) or jRiver.

I looked at the event log and here is what I get when MPC-BE fails to launch:

Faulting application name: mpc-be64.exe, version: 1.5.3.4488, time stamp: 0x5ca1b2bc
Faulting module name: mpc-be64.exe, version: 1.5.3.4488, time stamp: 0x5ca1b2bc
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x00000000015638b4
Faulting process ID: 0x2418
Faulting application start time: 0x01d50f4e9dd9fea1
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\MPC-BE x64\mpc-be64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\MPC-BE x64\mpc-be64.exe
Report ID: fd19750b-a1a2-4142-b0df-3129e180852c
Faulting package full name:

I've deleted all the LAV versions except the one use in the jRiver plugins folder. I've re-registered both the 32bits and 64bits .ax in these folders, to make sure these were the one used. MPC-BE is set to use external filters, and points at LAV video/audio/splitter/splitter source, same as MPC-HC. Both use madVR, but I get the same issue if I set the renderer to EVR-CP, so not a madVR issue.

The exception code is always the same, but the fault offset and Faulting process ID change every time.

Here is the connected information:

Fault bucket 1264916888158018584, type 5
Event Name: BEX64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: mpc-be64.exe
P2: 1.5.3.4488
P3: 5ca1b2bc
P4: mpc-be64.exe
P5: 1.5.3.4488
P6: 5ca1b2bc
P7: 00000000015638b4
P8: c0000409
P9: 0000000000000005
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER2351.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER249A.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24AA.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24AC.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24CD.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:


Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 218575a0-1255-4a8c-a6ab-1feaf16ac9e3
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: a813813bd95aa688318de3353d0d1c18

[Aleksoid1978]

Manni
1 - Try latest SVN version https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last
2 - Reset settings
3 - Try without any external filters(LAV, madVR ...).
4 - Update Nvidia drivers to latest.

I'm using only with internal filters and ANY UHD BD play perfect.

P.S. If nothing help - i can help only if you upload UHD BD for me or give torrent link.

[ryrynz]

More than likely it's mpc-be settings related than anything else. Nvidia drivers shouldn't make a difference considering mpc-hc has no issues.

[Manni]

Manni
1 - Try latest SVN version https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last
2 - Reset settings
3 - Try without any external filters(LAV, madVR ...).
4 - Update Nvidia drivers to latest.

I'm using only with internal filters and ANY UHD BD play perfect.

P.S. If nothing help - i can help only if you upload UHD BD for me or give torrent link.

Thanks!

Unfortunately, the fact that MPC-BE is now working perfectly well again as standalone points to a problem with the latest MCE 8.8.2 / windows build 1809 issue, or possibly MyMovies. Before 1809, when I used 1806 and MCE 8.8.1, all was working fine.

I only posted in this thread when I started to have issues with the standalone app, but following my last debugging session, I don’t have any more issues with MPC-BE standalone.

For some reason, MPC-BE doesn’t work anymore when called from MyMovies within MCE, and MPC-HC doesn’t have this issue.

Not a title issue, as I said from the beginning, as The Meg is played fine now in standalone MPC-BE (even with external LAV and madVR).

I understand it’s not your job to fix MCE and Windows 10 forced updates, but you won’t be able to reproduce unless you use MyMovies/Media Centre to launch MPC-BE.

I’ll keep using MPC-HC with MyMovies for now, but I’ll see if I can get MPC-BE to work again with MCE. Maybe a reinstall of MCE or similar. I think the best place to discuss this is the MyMovies forum, so I’ll post there.

I’ll keep you posted if I find a solution.

Thanks for your help, and for a great software!

[Grimsdyke]

Manni, I had audio-problems (drop-outs and glitches) with MPC-BE after the win10-503 update !! But their 504-update seem to have fixed the current problems.
So MPC-BE is as great as ever !!

[Megalith]

Does anyone here own an RME ADI-2 Pro DAC? Using the MPC Audio Renderer, WASAPI Shared plays fine, but Exclusive results in laggy video. This is with the device in Class Compliant (driverless) mode.

[Aleksoid1978]

Does anyone here own an RME ADI-2 Pro DAC? Using the MPC Audio Renderer, WASAPI Shared plays fine, but Exclusive results in laggy video. This is with the device in Class Compliant (driverless) mode.

Do you test on latest SVN version - https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last ?

Try change "Device buffer".

[wushantao]

hi，everyone

what is the MPC VR (https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/4554/)？

something like madVR？

or VR（Virtual Reality）？

[Aleksoid1978]

hi，everyone

what is the MPC VR (https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/4554/)？

something like madVR？

or VR（Virtual Reality）？

custom VR(Video renderer) - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer

[wushantao]

custom VR(Video renderer) - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer

oh，i see:D

[mood]

Is it only me or the latest versions get lot of time when launching?

Same thing for me too. Tested nightlies (x64) and 1.5.3.4373 (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.3.4373) seems to be the last build launching practically instantly. Builds starting from 1.5.3.4378 (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.3.4378) take several seconds.

I have this problem too, take several seconds in last build 1.5.4.4554 and starting from 1.5.3.4378

[Klaus1189]

mood
Does this help?
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1871385&postcount=6163

[mood]

mood
Does this help?
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1871385&postcount=6163

Thanks, but does not help,

[Megalith]

Do you test on latest SVN version - https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last ?

Try change "Device buffer".

No improvement. I think it's a quirk with my DAC.

That said, I noticed another peculiarity with WASAPI Exclusive. In that mode, certain passages of loud bass sound distorted. No such issue in WASAPI Shared.

It's obvious in the Ready Player One, when King Kong slams his hands against the road during the race where the main character drives backward to get the key.

[Aleksoid1978]

Megalith
Try this build using WASAPI Exclusive - https://yadi.sk/d/GiM3josEiFOlMA
It's create log on Desktop. Upload it for me after playback and close MPC-BE.