Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Are there any plans to merge xyvsfilter with mpc-BE sub renderer?

No. First - it's external project. Second - i do not understand about subtitle, render and also :).

[Aleksoid1978]

Assumed XhmikosR would be ousted, you would then merge the MPC-BE with the MPC-HC project?

Could you enlighten me please? I know nothing about that there is a commercial code stealer...

1 - No. MPC-BE it's my project. Why me working about MPC-HC.
2 - As minimum - KMPlayer/PotPlayer take gabest source as a basis.

[Aleksoid1978]

But the Outputpage of MPC-HC looks better, see the screenshot.



Were I can find the Option to enable?



MPC-BE uses the old Dialogs, MPC-HC the new one (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/changeset/5421/trunk)

Questions about MPC-BE:
Why MPC-BE uses the old dialogs, although purport to be a more modern player?
Why MPC-BE uses the old libflac and the libpng, but when the MPC-HC does not require both?
Either I'm wrong, or MPC-BE don't support Video scrubbing..

For me - MPC-HC's output page look bad. Icon bad looking at MPC-HC desing.

About of some dialog - for me old style look better then new(modern).

About libflac and libpng - First, MPC-HC also use libFlac, but we use latest version. About libpng - what do not you like about this library ? It's perfect for read & write png.

[alexins]

But the Outputpage of MPC-HC looks better, see the screenshot.
You sure of this? It is just ridiculous. The icons that are used in this dialog box, do not fit the style.
MPC-BE uses the old Dialogs, MPC-HC the new one (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/changeset/5421/trunk)
You want to, we copied everything and do as in mpc-hc? Do not see in it sense. The team mpc-hc uses its own plan of development of the project, we also use your development plan.
Why MPC-BE uses the old libflac and the libpng, but when the MPC-HC does not require both?
The developers of libflac (http://git.xiph.org/?p=flac.git;a=summary) and libpng (http://libpng.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=libpng/libpng;a=summary), will be very surprised when they learn that their development you called out of date.
For your information, in mpc-hc is used libflac. :p
Either I'm wrong, or MPC-BE don't support Video scrubbing..
Sorry, but can be more specific...
Assumed XhmikosR would be ousted, you would then merge the MPC-BE with the MPC-HC project?
I can assure everybody that we have no plans to overthrow XhmikosR. Strange thoughts you have. Once again, our project has its own way of development, the team of mpc-hc as its own path of development. Our plans do not include the merger with mpc-hc.

[robpdotcom]

Who want that internal logic to select audio & subtitle track do not break External splitter functional try - http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/1250/mpc-be_x86_1250.7z
Just uncheck this:
http://s018.radikal.ru/i518/1209/8e/689e91e23e54t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radikal.ru/i518/1209/8e/689e91e23e54.png.html)

Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted.

BTW: I'm loving MPC-BE. Just curious, what does BE stand for?

[Przemek_Sperling]

First of all, my congratulations. The BE looks and behaves great! Thanks!

I have a kind request. Wouldn't it be good if the player would use equalizer or Winamp plugins? I have to say that the sound system of MPC in general is very modest if compared to other players. One can. of course, install ffdshow or change the properties of his soundcard but something supported natively seems to be better.

PS My fav is this plugin http://www.winamp.com/plugin/enhancer-017/81361 Sounds great in movies!

[Mercury_22]

MPC-BE has a problem with "mkv Live stream recording" files = terminates too soon
Here is a sample : test4 file (http://sourceforge.net/projects/matroska/files/test_files/matroska_test_w1_1.zip/download) from the official Matroska Test Suite - Wave 1 (http://www.matroska.org/downloads/test_w1.html)
4. Live stream recording

This file is using the EBML feature that allows Master elements to have no known size. It is used for live streams because they don't know ahead of time the size of the Segment (virtually infinite) and even sometimes the size of the Clusters (no caching on the server side). The first timecode of the file also doesn't start at 0 since it's supposed to be a capture from something continuous. The SegmentInfo also doesn't contain any Duration as it is not know.

The sample comes from the Big Buck Bunny open project. It contains Theora video (1280x720), Vorbis audio, uses only SimpleBlock (matroska DocType v2)

A similar file can be created with mkclean using the "--live" option

[Aleksoid1978]

First of all, my congratulations. The BE looks and behaves great! Thanks!

I have a kind request. Wouldn't it be good if the player would use equalizer or Winamp plugins? I have to say that the sound system of MPC in general is very modest if compared to other players. One can. of course, install ffdshow or change the properties of his soundcard but something supported natively seems to be better.

PS My fav is this plugin http://www.winamp.com/plugin/enhancer-017/81361 Sounds great in movies!

No - there is no planned for any plugins system support.

[JEEB]

The developers of libflac (http://git.xiph.org/?p=flac.git;a=summary) and libpng (http://libpng.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=libpng/libpng;a=summary), will be very surprised when they learn that their development you called out of date.
And here I was thinking that this (http://git.xiph.org/?p=mirrors/flac.git) was libflac's current repository. Cheers.

That said, unless you are planning on encoding things, libavcodec's decoder is the thing that IMHO should be moved to (less libraries to depend on, if there are bugs it's easier to inform of them / get them fixed etc.). Libflac's parser might or might not be better for a file source tho, I remember f.ex. LAV Splitter having problems with flac+the libavformat parser at one point.

[Aleksoid1978]

And here I was thinking that this (http://git.xiph.org/?p=mirrors/flac.git) was libflac's current repository. Cheers.


libFlac use for Flac Source Filter. For decoding - use ffmpeg.

[turbojet]

Thanks for fixing 'remember window position' in 1.0.3.1.

Another issue I often encounter is when launching fullscreen is enabled, exiting fullscreen has inconsistent behavior.
To test:
1. Enable options>playback>fullscreen 'launch files in fullscreen'
2. close the player and open a new file
3. Exit fullscreen

Result is on primary display it minimizes and takes 2 clicks to open the window, on extended display (no taskbar) it goes to a window.

Expected is it goes to a window no matter if it's primary or extended display.

[Aleksoid1978]

Try this build http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/mpc-be.exe_Preview_hang_fix.7z - fix hang/crash when preview enable and open BD/m2ts and quick close Explorer.

[ceb]

Suggestion: add EXIT button on toolbar (maybe next to AUD and SUB buttons, so it would be AUD | SUB | EXIT).
I agree.
I would like to use the player in "Frame Only" mode but then the only way to close it is by pressing ALT+F4 (as far as I know at least), and I would prefer a way through the GUI.

Some questions:
1) I used the "old" MPC-BE and I knew that updates to MPC-HC would be included in it, so is it still the same?

2) I was wondering if it makes sense to disable all DXVA since I have a powerful enough PC (Intel Core i5-2500 & ATI 5770)? I've heard that DXVA can cause artifacts sometimes.

3)How should I set the subtitle options for best quality (in particular regard to anime)? I've set "Sub pictures to buffer" at 0, "Maximum texture resolution" at dekstop, "allow animation when buffering" enabled and "round up to power of two" disabled.

Thanks. :)

[Mercury_22]

Try this build http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/mpc-be.exe_Preview_hang_fix.7z - fix hang/crash when preview enable and open BD/m2ts and quick close Explorer.

Seems to be working for now
Thanks ! I'll do more testing later

[mark0077]

Just trying out MPC-BE. I tried to setup its options exactly as mpc-hc. One major difference for me. By default with MPC-BE it seems to play some unforced japanese subtitles in blu-rays. I'm using LAV Splitters and have it set to only display forced subtitles. In mpc-hc I get exactly as I expect, only forced subtitles.

Whats making MPC-BE override this? Should LAV Splitter be deciding what subtitles to play, not mpc? Whatevers in mpc is overriding this, its picking the wrong language :P

I love the interface though, the seekbar is lovely, and meant I can hide the "Status" bar, to make more room for playback. Cheers devs

[VipZ]

Try this build http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/mpc-be.exe_Preview_hang_fix.7z - fix hang/crash when preview enable and open BD/m2ts and quick close Explorer.

Thanks this fixed ticket 00028. Will close.

[jos99]

I would like to use the player in "Frame Only" mode but then the only way to close it is by pressing ALT+F4 (as far as I know at least), and I would prefer a way through the GUI.

I use it without frame & borders, to exit you can simply right click in the video area>Exit. Personally I would like an option to disable AUD SUB and GPU options as the first two require two clicks to access options anyhow, and GPU has no clickable options at all, to keep it free of clutter as much as possible. I also think if you are showing GPU it needs to be same colour as other text, not orange, really bad colour clash with grey.


2) I was wondering if it makes sense to disable all DXVA since I have a powerful enough PC (Intel Core i5-2500 & ATI 5770)? I've heard that DXVA can cause artifacts sometimes.
)
DXVA can save power, if you have a damaged file, better to disable it for these.

[z_mashine]

I would like to use the player in "Frame Only" mode but then the only way to close it is by pressing ALT+F4 (as far as I know at least), and I would prefer a way through the GUI.

You can also use Alt+X hotkey.

[ney2x]

:rolleyes:Is this possible?

Player view default to compact mode (2), seekbar default to check (Ctrl+1) and minimize, maximize and exit at the right corner... like the image below

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/7247/mpcbef2seekbarcheck.png

or this ---> http://archangelx2.deviantart.com/art/MPC-HC-GUI-concept-v-1-200263705 :rolleyes:

[jos99]

Not sure how they'd do that ney, wouldn't it overlap the video:confused:? I think they could put an exit button on the control bar. How about there is an option for a minimal control bar, and an advanced, or just allow us to select which buttons we want with tick boxes in options?

[kasper93]

Why MPC-BE uses the old libflac and the libpng, but when the MPC-HC does not require both?

IMHO it's better to use libpng... I know it's one less lib in MPC-HC and IIRC ~100kb less(in binary), but output PNG's compression is way worse ;/ I may be wrong by the way :D

[judelaw]

:rolleyes:Is this possible?

http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/f2/77/f277ee8b688beb8ef5e83636fa1db3f5.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/f2/77/f277ee8b688beb8ef5e83636fa1db3f5.png.html)

comming soon......

[z_mashine]

:rolleyes:Is this possible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWhaYpMg05o

[ryrynz]

So many devs eager to fix and improve things..

http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/HIGHER+QUALITY+RAINBOW+PUKE+GIF+ACTIVATE+_27be1bc0d5d8df2f81400e34a92b38f8.gif

Looks good!

[Aleksoid1978]

Just trying out MPC-BE. I tried to setup its options exactly as mpc-hc. One major difference for me. By default with MPC-BE it seems to play some unforced japanese subtitles in blu-rays. I'm using LAV Splitters and have it set to only display forced subtitles. In mpc-hc I get exactly as I expect, only forced subtitles.

Whats making MPC-BE override this? Should LAV Splitter be deciding what subtitles to play, not mpc? Whatevers in mpc is overriding this, its picking the wrong language :P

I love the interface though, the seekbar is lovely, and meant I can hide the "Status" bar, to make more room for playback. Cheers devs

See
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1593291&postcount=138

in next release.

[ceb]

I use it without frame & borders, to exit you can simply right click in the video area>Exit. Personally I would like an option to disable AUD SUB and GPU options as the first two require two clicks to access options anyhow, and GPU has no clickable options at all, to keep it free of clutter as much as possible. I also think if you are showing GPU it needs to be same colour as other text, not orange, really bad colour clash with grey.


DXVA can save power, if you have a damaged file, better to disable it for these.

You can also use Alt+X hotkey.
Thanks. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWhaYpMg05o
Nice!

[jos99]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWhaYpMg05o
Amazing work:o! I see slightly different version is on latest screenshot on the project page (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/screenshots/2012-09-25%2018-34-55.png

[ney2x]

^

wow! that's what I call Pro! :)

[ryrynz]

Mute button doesn't work when bitstreaming, same deal in HC, internal or LAV.

[iwod]

Why is it every player of this sort requires DirectX 9.0c update? Aren't it already included inside Windows 7 and Windows 8? Do Newer Direct X not compatible with previous version? And can we not get rid of this dependencies?

[ney2x]

Why is it every player of this sort requires DirectX 9.0c update? Aren't it already included inside Windows 7 and Windows 8? Do Newer Direct X not compatible with previous version? And can we not get rid of this dependencies?

@Aleksoid1978

Does adding or copying D3DCompiler_43.dll and d3dx9_43.dll to MPC-BE program directory fixed or doesn't require Directx 9, just like with MPC-HC?

[ryrynz]

I see slightly different version is on latest screenshot on the project page (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/)


That background used for that image along with many others can be picked up in a zip file over here (http://ge.tt/api/1/files/3q7Yv5O/0/blob?download) Preview of all the images contacted in the zip here (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/topic,757.0.html).

[wanezhiling]

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=66092&uk=3558042035
BE failed, lav was fine.

[Aleksoid1978]

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=66092&uk=3558042035
BE failed, lav was fine.

MPC-BE don't have own splitter/source for BIK video. Use LAV for this.

[wanezhiling]

MPC-BE don't have own splitter/source for BIK video. Use LAV for this.

I mean LAV S + BE V/A failed.

[Aleksoid1978]

I mean LAV S + BE V/A failed.

Yes - fail, but only audio, video is ok. Audio - fix later.

[ZoNi]

Few toolbar skins (by ZoNi):

Android
http://i.imgur.com/37QYE.png

Android Dark
http://i.imgur.com/XclcN.png

Carpelinx
http://i.imgur.com/8yPKC.png

Farm-Fresh
http://i.imgur.com/G1UBX.png

Icons source: http://findicons.com/

Just save any of those PNG "skins" to MPC-BE folder and restart it.

[z_mashine]

Toolbars with icons from mpc-hc be mod.

http://ompldr.org/tZnBtZw (http://ompldr.org/vZnBtZw)

http://ompldr.org/vZnBtaA/z_mashine-toolbar.png

http://ompldr.org/vZnBtaQ/z_mashine_mod1-toolbar.png

http://ompldr.org/vZnBtag/z_mashine_mod2-toolbar.png

[mark0077]

There is a 0.1% of user can/be managed to work DVD with MadVR. Other 99.9% - give a error/hang while try watch DVD+MadVR.
How do I do in this situation ?

I think - i make options to replace or not MadVR for DVD playback.

Hi guys, is this functionality to switch from madVR to EVR for DVD playback optional, or planned to be?

[ZoNi]

z_mashine, can you do the same with icons from HC? http://www.sendspace.com/file/mw7nis

[z_mashine]

z_mashine, can you do the same with icons from HC? http://www.sendspace.com/file/mw7nis

Which is the same?

[ZoNi]

Sorry - I meant: can you make MPC-BE icon library with icons from MPC-HC? http://www.sendspace.com/file/mw7nis

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi guys, is this functionality to switch from madVR to EVR for DVD playback optional, or planned to be?

http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-be/mpc-be.exe.1282.7z
See - DVD/OGM options. Will be in next release.

[z_mashine]

Sorry - I meant: can you make MPC-BE icon library with icons from MPC-HC?

Maybe later.

[ZoNi]

Then: maybe thanks ;)

[naoan]

Since madvr now able to take screenshot can you guys remove the restriction? I tried using older version of MPC and screenshot work just fine with madvr 0.84.0.

[Aleksoid1978]

Since madvr now able to take screenshot can you guys remove the restriction? I tried using older version of MPC and screenshot work just fine with madvr 0.84.0.

Already done.

[jinsk8r]

"Auto-load Subtitles" sometimes don't work. Have to LOAD manually.
x64 build. Both external and internal, srt and ass.

^
This. x86 too.

In some movies it loads, in some others, it doesn't. MPC-HC loads properly.
(And I'm 100% sure subtitle/movies names are match)

You need to check this problem.

[jinsk8r]

z_mashine, can you do the same with icons from HC? http://www.sendspace.com/file/mw7nis

Use mine:

http://archangelx2.deviantart.com/art/MPC-HC-Icon-Library-v-2-2-265250286

@z_mashine: U should post ur preview img so ppl can see :)

[z_mashine]

@z_mashine: U should post ur preview img so ppl can see :)

New Icon Set MPC-BE Monochrome Icon Library v1.0 (http://z-mashine.deviantart.com/art/MPC-BE-Monochrome-Icon-Library-v1-0-330243593)

http://thumbnails106.imagebam.com/21400/016488213998291.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/016488213998291)