Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Try MPC-HC Audio Switcher - don't work for me
http://i.imgur.com/dBL8AGV.png

P.S. Fixed in rev. 5189 :)

[Reino]

Problem solved. Thanks a lot, Aleksoid!

[xiringu]

It seems that if you try to play a youtube video from a playlist, it always plays the same one (the first of the playlist, I guess).


Here are 2 different videos from the same playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOr2yBi5bA&list=UUczrL-2b-gYK3l4yDld4XlQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57uKuEgDL0&list=UUczrL-2b-gYK3l4yDld4XlQ


It doesn't play any of these, but another that I guess would be the first video on that playlist.

Thanks for your hardwork.

[Aleksoid1978]

Yes - from playlist play first. Do not support select what play.

[v0lt]

MPC-BE v1.4.3 -dev build 5259 (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/topic,2504.msg16303.html#msg16303)

[ryrynz]

Further simplifying the menu "performance" could be called "Queues and cache"
EVR Sync settings can be a button that enables when EVR Sync is selected as the renderer under the video page.
Settings management can be under Player
Color controls can be under video thus you can remove the Miscellaneous category.
Tweaks and Interface can go under Player.

This would tidy things up a bit more nicely, if you wanted..

[Mercury_22]

Can someone tell me what that new option "Speed of sound amplifying" under Audio section does / mean?

[wanezhiling]

A new normalizer.

[Aleksoid1978]

Can someone tell me what that new option "Speed of sound amplifying" under Audio section does / mean?

Roughly translated as - the rate of increase volume. 100% - it's 1 second.

[Mercury_22]

Thanks for trying to explain. I still don't understand what speed has to do with audio normalization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_normalization) (gain) but I'm a newb at this so it seems I have more to learn.:)
Anyway a more important question is where is the "custom channel mapping" ? Please tell me you didn't just get rid of it ! (without replacing it with something better)

[Aleksoid1978]

custom channel mapping - is removed. Now audio decoder has a mixer.

[xiringu]

I find it a bit akward that the only way to download subtitles is hidden in the menu File->Subtitle database.

I think a better place for this should be in the Subtitles menu, with the other related options.

The other day I forgot where it was, and it took me a while to find the option. :)

[Reino]

custom channel mapping - is removed. Now audio decoder has a mixer.Not only that, you seem to have removed the entire AudioSwitcher configuration as well! Why?
The AudioSwitcher automatically gets loaded still, but the config is missing, so there's no control at all. Now this "mixer", or what's left of it, is only for use with the internal filters. Why?!
Why mangle a perfectly working part of MPC-BE (and MPC-HC)?!
I appreciate you constantly update MPC-BE, but this imho is a complete mistake.
I'll stick to r5208 for the time being.

[Mercury_22]

Not only that, you seem to have removed the entire AudioSwitcher configuration as well! Why?
The AudioSwitcher automatically gets loaded still, but the config is missing, so there's no control at all. Now this "mixer", or what's left of it, is only for use with the internal filters. Why?!
Why mangle a perfectly working part of MPC-BE (and MPC-HC)?!
I appreciate you constantly update MPC-BE, but this imho is a complete mistake.
I'll stick to r5208 for the time being.

Same here, I mean I can accept any GUI changes even if I don't like them entirely but removing such a big functional part without replacing it with something better it's a mistake IMHO too

[Aleksoid1978]

Me are remove only custom channel mapping, all other options - normalizer, boost, time-shift is stay. It's under Options->Audio.
AudioSwitcher now always loading.

Now we are work under new algorithm of audio-normalization. Later - we move audio-mixer from audio-decoder to AudioSwitcher.

Thats all. Nothing not happened :)

P.S. About custom channel mapping - why it's need if we have mixer in audio-decoder ??

[Mercury_22]

Me are remove only custom channel mapping, all other options - normalizer, boost, time-shift is stay. It's under Options->Audio.
AudioSwitcher now always loading.

Now we are work under new algorithm of audio-normalization. Later - we move audio-mixer from audio-decoder to AudioSwitcher.

Thats all. Nothing not happened :)

P.S. About custom channel mapping - why it's need if we have mixer in audio-decoder ??

If you will make the mixer available for external decoders too than it's OK, (for me at least :)) although there are still people with custom speaker "settings" / placement (e.g 8.1, 6.1) who need that "custom channel mapping" and MPC-BE was one of the very few players allowing for a (manual) custom mapping.

To sum up having a "custom channel mapping" it can only benefit, maybe just for few, but I don't see how it would have hurt the others

[Reino]

Why would you make things so much more complicated? Why would you move audio post-processing features from the AudioSwitcher to every single internal audio decoder? This also means that those who like to use other DirectShow filters (LAV Filters, DC-BSM, etc.) than MPC-BE's internal ones are out of luck and need to install FFDShow again for audio post-processing.

Those who don't want to use the AudioSwitcher are out of luck, as it can't be turned off anymore.

Why are you working on a new audionormalization algorithm? What's wrong with it? I've used the normalize feature for a very long time and I'm very satisfied with it. I'm more the "don't fix it if it ain't broken" kinda guy.

The AudioSwitcher and its channel mapping feature give you the absolute freedom to setup your sound system the way you like. LAV Filters' mixer only has a couple of pre-defined layouts, which you seemingly now have copied to MPC-BE's internal decoders.

I really wish you would've left the AudioSwitcher untouched!
But if you're dead set on pushing this through, I think we might need yet another MPC fork. :(

[kasper93]

I think we might need yet another MPC fork. :(

Why would we need it?

[ryrynz]

Why would we need it?

Not we, he.

[Aleksoid1978]

Why would you move audio post-processing features from the AudioSwitcher to every single internal audio decoder?

I repeat - from AudioSwitcher remove only custom channel mapping. All other options and features is stay in AudioSwitcher. And you can use it's as standalone filter.

[v0lt]

Those who don't want to use the AudioSwitcher are out of luck, as it can't be turned off anymore.
Audioswitcher is required for proper operation of the player. Disable it does not need.

The AudioSwitcher and its channel mapping feature give you the absolute freedom to setup your sound system the way you like.
This is not so. Tell me, for what purpose do you really use this feature?

[Reino]

Normalizing audio volume, set correct channel map for (old) ds-filters that don't support dwChannelMask, correcting channel map for files with faulty audio layout (e.g. stereo with only audio on the right side), testing ds-filters and looking up the dwChannelMask (light gray squares).
Audioswitcher is required for proper operation of the player. Disable it does not need.Then why rob it of its features? What's the point of moving almost its features to every single internal audiodecoder?

All other options and features is stay in AudioSwitcher. And you can use it's as standalone filter.Unlike the standalone Video Decoder, you can't configurate the standalone AudioSwitcher as there's no settings/options-tab.

[Aleksoid1978]

What's the point of moving almost its features to every single internal audiodecoder?

Who told you that? Why did you decide that all these features have moved in the audio decoder?

[Aleksoid1978]

LAV Filters' mixer only has a couple of pre-defined layouts, which you seemingly now have copied to MPC-BE's internal decoders.

We don't use mixer from LAVAudio, we write self mixer.

[Reino]

Who told you that? Why did you decide that all these features have moved in the audio decoder?Not all. I said 'almost all', but anyway, you did:
Now we are work under new algorithm of audio-normalization. Later - we move audio-mixer from audio-decoder to AudioSwitcher.
...
P.S. About custom channel mapping - why it's need if we have mixer in audio-decoder ??I haven't looked at the standalone filters for quite a while, because now I just realized there's only 1 audio decoder left (MpaDecFilter.ax) responsible for all audio formats. So...
> What's the point of moving almost its features to every single internal audiodecoder?
...should be...
"What's the point of moving the custom-speaker-configuration to the audio decoder into a slimmed down version?"

We don't use mixer from LAVAudio, we write self mixer.Bad phrasing. I meant to say that you copied the same concept.

But now I still don't know why you demolished the AudioSwitcher and removed the custom speaker configuration.

[Aleksoid1978]

why you demolished the AudioSwitcher and removed the custom speaker configuration.
Because it's mechanism is not good. Mixer in audio-decoder is better. It use some algorithm and volume-coefficient to move sound-data from one channel to other. About custom speaker configuration - it's just copy sound-data as-is, it's very bad.

[kasper93]

I agree with that. Custom channel mapping is fine to duplicate output or remap channels. But it should never be used to down mix or mixing channels in general. I think it was never intended for mixing.

[v0lt]

MPC-BE v1.4.3 -dev build 5323 (http://dev.mpc-next.ru/index.php/topic,2521.msg16504.html#msg16504)

[cyberbeing]

The same restricted behavior of the Play/Pause hotkey occurs with MPC-BE as well on first open:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1690174&postcount=1452

Is this something which could be easily fixed, or is there a good reason for the current behavior?

[max wyty]

hi, it is my first post in this forum. I ve been using BE for 4 months, and all seems good , but I have a question about sound settings:

Is there some filter / settings to get an effect like a virtual speakers ? something like QSound or Dolby Virtual Speaker (simulate 5.1 using two speakers).

thanks

[xiringu]

Is it possible to add these 2 options?

1) Options->Player->History->Auto-load last opened file


I often stop watching something in the middle. It would be very helpful if MPC-BE could autoload the movie for me, instead of going to Recent files, or finding the file on the HD.


2) Options->Player->History->Auto-load next file

At the moment, MPC-BE stops after a movie, doesn't play the next file in the folder automatically, but if you have a playlist, it plays the files in order.

What I'd like is an option to treat the folder as a playlist, without making one.


Thanks

[huhn]

Is it possible to add this option?

Options->Player->History->Auto-load last opened file


I often stop watching something in the middle. It would be very helpful if MPC-BE could autoload the movie for me, instead of going to Recent files, or finding the file on the HD.

Thanks

just open the player and press "play" and the last opened file will be played.

[xiringu]

Why haven't I tried that before? :)


Thanks. :)

[Reino]

I'm very pleased to see you can watch public (live-)videostreams with MPC-BE and MPC-HC as they can directly open the corresponding m3u8-file. However that's not the case yet with commercial videostreams, like this newsbulletin (http://www.rtlxl.nl/#!/rtl-nieuws-132237/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef) for example (DRM, but free to watch).
The only difference in the m3u8-playlist, compared to public videostreams, is the line: #EXT-X-KEY:METHOD=AES-128,URI="http://drm.rtl.nl/......

It appears, unlike MPC-BE/HC, FFmpeg can open this stream (http://manifest.us.rtl.nl/10/v166/aes/adaptive/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/316521/2014w34/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef.ssm/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef-audio_eng=126000-video_eng=1502000.m3u8):
(There's a very good chance foreigners can't open this videostream because of a geoblock. If so, I can upload it somewhere else if you want)
http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/93f8cafed179f732c97b27d47f93bf95.png

[nevcairiel]

I'm very pleased to see you can watch public (live-)videostreams with MPC-BE and MPC-HC as they can directly open the corresponding m3u8-file. However that's not the case yet with commercial videostreams, like this newsbulletin (http://www.rtlxl.nl/#!/rtl-nieuws-132237/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef) for example (DRM, but free to watch).
The only difference in the m3u8-playlist, compared to public videostreams, is the line: #EXT-X-KEY:METHOD=AES-128,URI="http://drm.rtl.nl/......

It appears, unlike MPC-BE/HC, FFmpeg can open this stream (http://manifest.us.rtl.nl/10/v166/aes/adaptive/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/316521/2014w34/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef.ssm/514e4cc2-2ab4-3a53-b1f0-97b002b106ef-audio_eng=126000-video_eng=1502000.m3u8):
(There's a very good chance foreigners can't open this videostream because of a geoblock. If so, I can upload it somewhere else if you want)


Fixed in LAV/future MPC-HC, the decryption protocol for HLS was just not enabled in its build.

[Reino]

Ah! I thought this was a player issue. Thanks, nevcairiel.

[xiringu]

Could someone explain the following to me?

I'm using a Compaq Presario CQ57 (1Ghz CPU). I was using win8 32bits and a couple of weeks ago, I downgraded to win7 64bits.

I discovered a funny thing and it is that mpc, both HC and BE (64 bit version) now take a few seconds longer to load a movie, and everytime I go to the menu and come back, the movie is a bit choppy, and a couple of seconds later, it runs OK.

Well, the thing is that I decided to try mpc-be 32bit instead (remember I'm on win7 64bit), and suddenly the player is loading faster, and everything is smooth like it was on win8 32bit, with the same hardware.

Could anybody explain this to me? I was expecting better performance switching from win8 32bit + mpc-be 32bit to win7 64bit + mpc-be 64bit, but that didn't happen.

CPU and RAM load seems low to me on both 32 and 64bit versions, so I don't understand the difference in performance.

Any ideas?

Thanks

[v0lt]

Any ideas?
If Nvidia graphics card, when uninstall "nVidia Stereoscopic 3D Driver".

[xiringu]

It's a laptop with AMD Radeon HD 6250.

I play 1080p movies on it, no problem, but it's funny that 32bit is faster than 64bit.

[max wyty]

I´ve been using the mpc-be internal source / decoders , and no problem in general, but, most of tutorials strongly suggest unselect internal filters and install LAV filters.

My questions for the experts...how good are the BE internal source / decoders ? LAv increases something else in the quality / performance ?

thanks

[Aleksoid1978]

I´ve been using the mpc-be internal source / decoders , and no problem in general, but, most of tutorials strongly suggest unselect internal filters and install LAV filters.

My questions for the experts...how good are the BE internal source / decoders ? LAv increases something else in the quality / performance ?

thanks

Internal source/decoder is good, there is not necessary to use LAV :)

[wanezhiling]

Internal splitters/decoders are most compatible with the player, that's the truth.
And since Internal ones have almost all functions of LAV, you'd better stick to them.

[octal9]

i noticed that sometimes when i double click on a media file that the seek bar will appear below the player controls rather than above them (normally its' always the other way around) - why is this, and is there a way change this behavior? secondly, are mpc-be's filters based directly off of lav or ffdshow or elsewhere? and lastly, love the player - you folks always make my day much better - best program around - thanks kindly for the continuing hard work........

[xiringu]

Is it possible to add a keyboard shortcut to turn the OSD on/off?

I've seen this:

Options->Player->Other->Show OSD

but no keyboard shortcut.

my problem is the following:

I turn the OSD off because I watch sports and I skip forward a lot, but I don't want to see how much time there's left (the default behaviour).


Then, if I need to see something, like the system time, I have to go all the way to the menu to turn the OSD on again.

Thanks

[JohnLai]

Guys, how do I disable the built-in 'audio switcher'?
Normal MPC-HC has the option to disable it, but I can't seem to find it at MPC-BE

[nevcairiel]

Guys, how do I disable the built-in 'audio switcher'?
Normal MPC-HC has the option to disable it, but I can't seem to find it at MPC-BE

You can't disable it anymore.

[JohnLai]

You can't disable it anymore.

Why? :scared:

[detmek]

Because that option is removed recently. Audio switcher is always active now.

[JohnLai]

Because that option is removed recently. Audio switcher is always active now.

Since I am not sure how many pages needed to be looked back, I just ask here.

Any justification on why the audio switcher must be active now?

[detmek]

Check 2 pages back, from page 111.