Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[v0lt]

MPC Video Renderer v0.3.4.956 (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/releases/tag/0.3.4).
Description (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/blob/0.3.4/Readme.md).

[Anima123]

When MPC Video Renderer Direct3d 11 route using together with XySubtitles, the subtitle would be surrounded by a black box. I assume it's a compatible issue, which disappeared with Direct3d 9EX.

Here's what it look like:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5idgcww1e9de0d5/MPCVideoRendererDX11_2.png?dl=0

This is what it look like with Direct9Ex:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/01v12m88onrqh4v/MPCVideoRendererDX9Ex.png?dl=0

[Aleksoid1978]

When MPC Video Renderer Direct3d 11 route using together with XySubtitles, the subtitle would be surrounded by a black box. I assume it's a compatible issue, which disappeared with Direct3d 9EX.

Here's what it look like:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5idgcww1e9de0d5/MPCVideoRendererDX11_2.png?dl=0

This is what it look like with Direct9Ex:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/01v12m88onrqh4v/MPCVideoRendererDX9Ex.png?dl=0

Thanks - fixed.

[v0lt]

@V0lt
Who compiled/created the exe in the link with the shorter file https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last, is it you?
Not. Our volunteer does this.

[Anima123]

@Aleksoid1978, is it possible that it may reveal some kind of bugs when playing back a 25i fps mkv file, the audio sometimes will feed to Audio Renderer with some dropouts. For comparison, there're no problems at all with progressive files.

Edit: Since the dropout usually occurred with very dynamical scenes which will have to require more bitrates, my wild guess is that the splitter only pre-read certain amount of data while in this case most of the data are used by video, thus not enough size for audio data to feed the decoder in time.

[Aleksoid1978]

@Aleksoid1978, is it possible that it may reveal some kind of bugs when playing back a 25i fps mkv file, the audio sometimes will feed to Audio Renderer with some dropouts. For comparison, there're no problems at all with progressive files.

Edit: Since the dropout usually occurred with very dynamical scenes which will have to require more bitrates, my wild guess is that the splitter only pre-read certain amount of data while in this case most of the data are used by video, thus not enough size for audio data to feed the decoder in time.

Upload sample file and write timestamps where audio "dropout".

[Anima123]

Upload sample file and write timestamps where audio "dropout".

pm'ed to you. Thanks for checking.

[v0lt]

MPC Video Renderer v0.3.6.970 (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/releases/tag/0.3.6)
Description (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/blob/0.3.6/Readme.md).

[ryrynz]

yandex likes to drip feed me at ~30Kb/s these days. Glorious, also most of the time comes down corrupted. Wonderful.

Seems to have reached a cap so it bandwidth throttling leading to bad data.

Bad host.

[Klaus1189]

@ryrynz: visit: https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1887882&postcount=6766
click on alternative, also possible download ;)

@devs: Thank you for your work on MPC Video Renderer. Amongst other things I want to thank you especially for added rotation support I asked for. You are the best :)

[ryrynz]

Cheers Klaus, videohelp build downloaded a build in a few seconds.
Yandex taking about six minutes or more, probably corrupted too.

[mclingo]

got a strange bug with MPC-BE since I upgraded from an AMD RX 580 to a RX 5700, its playing everything in limted rather han full, swapping 255 to 235 does nothing in video settings or in filters, does this with EVR renderer on both MPC-BE and MPC-HC so must be an issue with driver maybe, anyone else had this?

[huhn]

driver issue. it's about 4 month old they don't care. deint is "broken" too

[mclingo]

i dont really use the EVR render much luckily, works fine with MADVR which is my main driver, i'll get it logged with AMD, ive had success before with driver issues. I'll have a look to see if it can be fixed changing dynamic settings in radeon mod

[huhn]

i already did lock it with them nothing changed.
they even told me that doesn't sound important.

they have far bigger problems anyway which are finally acknowledged after a huge number of user have reported them for 4 months now.

[mclingo]

are any of the driver versions working or is this a day one problem?

[huhn]

afaik day one.

i don't even test some of the bugs anymore as long as the obvious ones are not fixed.

the only major bug that affected every user and is mostly fixed is driver crash with hardware decoding.

[mclingo]

its odd that its only happening with EVR render is it not?, why would MADVR and windows players all be fine and EVR not do you think?

[cmhrky]

Latest Turkish translation (https://www.sendspace.com/file/nv3udk) based on r4924.

[huhn]

madVR doesn't trust dxva2 at all and most likely just fixed it by itself.
windows media player is affected.

the windows video app is not because it is not using dxva2 but d3d11 processing instead so "only" deint is broken.

[mclingo]

sorry i meant the windows films and TV app, that is ok, just had a look at the old win media player and yeah that is affected.

Workaround for mpc-be is to add a 16-235 to 0255 filter on post, looks fine to me, I did the same in MPC-HC and it looked awful though.

[v0lt]

@cmhrky
Thanks. Updated in r4925.

[s0meone_new]

Hello!
Please fix it in Authors.txt this line: Hungarian - Kiegészítette mickey
The correct: Hungarian - Kleiber Tamás, mickey

Thanks :)

[Anima123]

Is it a bug that I couldn't load ext subtitle files if there's no matching subtitle before? The 'Load Ext Subtitle' function seems to take effect only when other subtitles in effect.

The version I am using is MPC-BE.1.5.4.4928.x64, with XySubfilter enabled.

Edit: Just tested with internal subtitle renderer, which works as expected.

[Aleksoid1978]

Is it a bug that I couldn't load ext subtitle files if there's no matching subtitle before? The 'Load Ext Subtitle' function seems to take effect only when other subtitles in effect.

The version I am using is MPC-BE.1.5.4.4928.x64, with XySubfilter enabled.

Edit: Just tested with internal subtitle renderer, which works as expected.

In XySubfilter's options set "Always load". It's not MPC-BE fault - just XySubfilter is not loading into the graph if there is no embeded subtitles.

[Siso]

Is it possible to make the subtitles options "Spacing", "Border width" and "Shadow depth" be able to set them like 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc. they will be more flexible, and not like the default values 1, 2, 3 etc. Here is an example - now I can't set "Spacing" to 0.4 or 0.5, I can set it to 4 or 5 and it is way too much.

[chros]

now I can't set "Spacing" to 0.4 or 0.5, I can set it to 4 or 5 and it is way too much.
You can set to to 1? :)

[Siso]

You can set to to 1? :)

Even 1 is still a lot.

[mariner]

HDR -> SDR support only by internal EVR-CP and it's not support HDR passthrough - for it you can use madVR.
Bug - maybe if someone sponsors the purchase of TV with HDR i try to implement HDR passthrough in MPC Video Renderer.

SDR to HDR conversion

Greetings Aleksoid1978.

Any plan for a SDR-to-HDR renderer in the pipeline?

The Sony UHD player has a feature that forces the display to go into HDR mode when playing SDR/709 content. I believe this is done by inserting the PQ flag in the output video stream.

Can this be easily implemented as a stop gap measure while you work on the full SDR/HDR conversion?

Many thanks and best regards,

[Klaus1189]

if someone sponsors the purchase of TV with HDR i try to implement HDR passthrough in MPC Video Renderer.

+1 We need a sponsor ;)

[huhn]

hdr10 pc screens are much cheaper.

[ryrynz]

Just ask madshi for the code [emoji4]

[Aleksoid1978]

Even if there is a code, the problem is to implement it without appropriate devices.

[Grimsdyke]

Too many users who want to use nightly builds, not a problem, just growing number of users :)

The download problem is still there and unfortunately the time window to download seem to be only a few hours until it is blocked again.
However, has it been confirmed that really a drastically increased user base wants to download the nightlies or that only a moderate increase of users just use the 'download all'-button because of the somewhat unintuitive way the site is designed so that an overall bandwith limit is reached to fast now ????

[Klaus1189]

I created a yandex profile and can download it, just add the folder to your yandex profile and it works.

[v0lt]

Is it possible to download from this storage (https://cloud.mail.ru/public/V1rp/2iqNDT5Rx)?

s0meone_new
I fixed Authors.txt.

[Grimsdyke]

Worked for me !! Thanks.

[s0meone_new]

v0lt:
Ok thanks. Long ago there was a new stable version. :)

[Liisachan]

A feature request: I'd like to have a command like Alt+I, except it sends (copies) the current frame image to the Clipboard instead of saving it as a file. If that's not a good idea, though, just ignore this request. After all I can easily do the same thing by Alt+I, then open the saved file, and hit Ctrl+C in my image viewer...

[v0lt]

Liisachan
I think this is a good idea. The Ctrl+C hotkey would be nice here, but we will have to change the hotkey to close the file (for example, Ctrl+W).
We will discuss this ...

[Liisachan]

Changing the meaning of Ctrl+C by default would confuse the users who actually use it to close the file.
Since it's a variation of Alt+I, how about Ctrl+Alt+I? If a user wants to use Ctrl+C for it, they can easily change the shortcut key(s) via Options|Keys.
I'd be happy if there is just a menu item "File|Copy image" near "File|Save image..." even without a shortcut key, since shortcut keys are customizable. Thanks!

[Olivier C.]

Hi Aleksoid1978,

Thanks for your commit (r4953). It works !
Maybe some users will complain if they can't find some hidden tracks. Maybe you should display all tracks but only take in account the 'hidden info' for selecting initial track.

It's ok for me but in case some MPC-BE users will complain ...

[mariner]

Need help with 8K playback setting

Greetings.
Attached is playback screen cap of 8K HEVC nasa samples using the Kablake HD620 chip. While the player can handle the original 709 version, it struggles with the 2020 version.
Appreciate kind assistance with player/decoder/renderer settings.
Many thanks and best regards,

[Aleksoid1978]

When playback HDR - EVR-CP convert HDR -> SDR using pixel shader. I think HD620 is not enough for it. Check GPU % in statistics(Ctrl+J) or in Windows taskmanager(3D).

[v0lt]

mariner
I don’t understand why you need 8k on Intel HD620. It is pointless.
1. On-board video cards have low memory bandwidth. For 10-bit sources, the P010 format is used, which requires 2 times more bandwidth than NV12.
2. Now your player uses 4045 MB. I think this is a lot for the integrated video card. How much RAM do you have?

[littleD]

Also, arent you out of 4GB ram? If you have more then its not relevant.

[Asmodian]

Make sure you are using a 64 bit player.

[SEALBoy]

I've got an odd problem I'm hoping someone can help me with.

I use MPC-BE with madVR on my HTPC to play both SDR and HDR files. However, my TV's image processing time for SDR and HDR is different, so I need a separate audio delay offset depending on whether I'm playing SDR or HDR. I'd rather not have to go into options and change the offset every time I switch between SDR/HDR files. Is there a way for me to implement an audio delay depending on if SDR or HDR is being played?

[Aleksoid1978]

I've got an odd problem I'm hoping someone can help me with.

I use MPC-BE with madVR on my HTPC to play both SDR and HDR files. However, my TV's image processing time for SDR and HDR is different, so I need a separate audio delay offset depending on whether I'm playing SDR or HDR. I'd rather not have to go into options and change the offset every time I switch between SDR/HDR files. Is there a way for me to implement an audio delay depending on if SDR or HDR is being played?

Not planned, especially since you use madVR.

[mariner]

When playback HDR - EVR-CP convert HDR -> SDR using pixel shader. I think HD620 is not enough for it. Check GPU % in statistics(Ctrl+J) or in Windows taskmanager(3D).

Thanks for the kind reply, Alek.

1. The GPU usage reported on the screen caps look similar for both clips. Where do you think the bottleneck is?

2. The built-in OS MF decode can handle this undemanding 66mbps 8K PQ clip with ease. Do you think the problem lies with the DS decoder? FYI, the test system is i7 7500u with 16GB ram.

Many thanks and best regards,