Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Klaus1189]

many small adjustments in updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3355

[adolf88]

When playing a mkv file with a mka file, the subtitles in the mka file cannot be displayed.

[v0lt]

When playing a mkv file with a mka file, the subtitles in the mka file cannot be displayed.
The mka file is not treated as a file with external subtitles.
This behavior will not change. Keep subtitles in video file, subtitle format files or .mks.

Klaus1189
Thanks. Update in r3356.

[Klaus1189]

I found some more to correct and optimize -> updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3359.
I changed in line 1660 (STRING IDS_NEW_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) a sentence, but I can't check if it is too long. Can you please check if the text is complete in the appearing update window? -> Thanks :)

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Update in r3361. The line fit into the dialog.

[steakhutzeee]

Hi, I've a strange problem with mpc be. I use madvr and lav.

Never had a problem running DVD discs. With a DVD now, if I play it in vlc, no problems.

In mpc be i ve a sort of audio and video extreme lagging, images are frammented and flashing on the screen. What could be?

Mah, same problem with windows media player.

Only vlc runs the DVD. But it's strange. It's a 16:9 and 2.40:1 disc on a full HD monitor and I see the movie in a centered rectangle. With letterbox at right and left too... Should it be only on top and bottom with this aspect ratio? Btw I see this in vlc, with mc be and windows media player (just trying) i can't go after the initial DVD sponsor because of the audio and video lag.

[ryrynz]

Troubleshoot. Is it LAV? If it's happening in media player then it's not anything to do with Mpc-be.

[steakhutzeee]

Troubleshoot. Is it LAV? If it's happening in media player then it's not anything to do with Mpc-be.Yes, I tried with media player only after. Really don't know...

[Klaus1189]

@steakhutzeee: What is installed? -> clean MPC-BE and clean LAV Filters, clean madVR OR a Codec-Pack of any kind? I recommend to use the clean projects.
Did you update any driver like graphics? What OS and which version/build are you using? -> e.g. Windows 10 x64 1709.
As ryrynz already wrote, if WMP (also directshow player) has same issue, all directshow players will have this issue. -> Already tried to reset lav filters to default settings? Doi you use anyother filters?

I just did a clean new installation (Windows 10 Pro 1709 x64, new 960 EVO) on my dads computer and tried DVD video playback, which is fine.

[Arm3nian]

Is there a max image size that can be saved? For example, I load a 3840x2160 video file, and have madVR screenshot set to 300%. So it would save a 11520x6480 file :). I set pagefile to 32GB and performance monitor tells me it's not all used. My 6GB VRAM maxes out, then my 16GB system RAM, then it loads some into page file, then madshi's exception handler comes up when everything crashes.

[v0lt]

@Arm3nian
My system froze, after which madVR crashed. GPU-Z showed a consumption of 1894 MB of video memory from the available 2048 MB.

[madshi]

Of course if VRAM maxes out, it's clearly not MPC-BE's fault. One could say it's madVR's fault. But making this work from within madVR would be *REALLY* difficult. Basically I'd have to split the image into small pieces and scale each up separately and then stitch them back together. Nah, not going to happen. So for now, screenshotting will be limited by your GPU VRAM, and maybe sometimes also by CPU RAM (e.g. when using a 32bit media player, or when using no page file).

Obviously, it would be nice if there were no crash, but really, that's something to look at on another day, sorry.

But seriously, do you need such large screenshots? Or are you just testing, just for fun?

[v0lt]

But seriously, do you need such large screenshots? Or are you just testing, just for fun?
I do not need such large pictures. I just tried to find the cause of the crash.

[madshi]

I do not need such large pictures. I just tried to find the cause of the crash.
Yes, of course, my question was aimed at Arm3nian.

[Arm3nian]

Okay thanks, doesn't look like the media player's fault atm. I'll poke madshi a little more through pm :devil:

[JNW]

Thought I'd share a logo with you all. It's just a simple customization on the original mixed with a bit of the MPC-HC look. :)
https://postimg.org/image/439o490bh/
https://postimg.org/image/wjyzb4zal/

[mclingo]

Hi, ive had this issue for a long time but it hasnt really bothered me until now as I'm using BE as my main player now. Whenever I start a movie, even local files i get a blue circle like its buffering and it can hang for a good ten seconds or so. This happens more often if I havent loaded be in a while but also seems to happen randomly on one movie and then not another. It also happens in music.

I never see this ever using MPC-HC whether i've just rebooted or never played the media before.

From memory i've has this issue probably months or even years.

Is this a known issue, if I search for buffering I just get back posts about streaming.

[Klaus1189]

Hi, ive had this issue for a long time but it hasnt really bothered me until now as I'm using BE as my main player now. Whenever I start a movie, even local files i get a blue circle like its buffering and it can hang for a good ten seconds or so. This happens more often if I havent loaded be in a while but also seems to happen randomly on one movie and then not another. It also happens in music.

I never see this ever using MPC-HC whether i've just rebooted or never played the media before.

From memory i've has this issue probably months or even years.

Is this a known issue, if I search for buffering I just get back posts about streaming.



I have one issue with MPC-BE and I get sometimes also a blue circle at mouse pointer which hangs at this time and stutters in 3 or 4 moves instead of smooth motion. If it is happening, every file has this strange phenomen. I reboot the pc and it is away and the files open as fast as they normally do.

I already did investigations what could cause it and now it seems that Firefox with HTML5 player causes it for me.
It seems like this issue only appears when I use(d) Firefox (always using latest stable Version) for playing videos in browser like YouTube left the tab open when it finished and MPC-BE is still running. A reboot fixes it.

I don't know what exactly I have to do in firefox, to reproduce it. I'm still investigating.

[Klaus1189]

It just happened and made a short video with my phone. I was moving the mouse in circles so one can see the system hangs and the mouse pointer jumps during hang.
Just recognized that a circle doesn't appear.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U-TnkrPiM5VylPI0bWXBAUcO7Xkvsvi6/view?usp=sharing

[mclingo]

I know think its a problem with MPC-BE taking control of the audio output, it happens when i've been playing something on youtube too, its not every file though, its mainly when MPC-BE hasnt been open for a while, once i've opened it and played something, more often than not its ok after that, but not always.

Just dont understand why this never ever happens with MPC-HC

[Klaus1189]

I've set Audiorenderer to "MPC Audio Renderer" WASAPI Mode -> Shared

[Klaus1189]

What Audiorenderer do you use? I set mine back to system default, seems fine so far.

EDIT:
not fine, same issue.
I played files with MPC-BE left it open and used firefox to watch YouTube videos and the same issue appeared after opening a new file in MPC-BE.

Firefox is :devil:

[beter]

Hi, ive had this issue for a long time but it hasnt really bothered me until now as I'm using BE as my main player now. Whenever I start a movie, even local files i get a blue circle like its buffering and it can hang for a good ten seconds or so. This happens more often if I havent loaded be in a while but also seems to happen randomly on one movie and then not another. It also happens in music.

I never see this ever using MPC-HC whether i've just rebooted or never played the media before.

From memory i've has this issue probably months or even years.

Is this a known issue, if I search for buffering I just get back posts about streaming.

I had something else in the past.

Every time after I had updated MPC-BE nightly build, when I clicked the "view" menu for the first time, the whole player hung for seconds. Later I switched to another antivirus and the problem is "solved". Likely my previous antivirus was scanning the translation files(because they are unsigned dll files)

[steakhutzeee]

Don't know why I can't use seek bar reproducing dvd discs, even with movies aired in TV. These dvd has flags for the chapters so I can jump to them but I can select a point of my choice and go to it... Why this?

I use madvr and lav.

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese traditional/simplified and Dutch

https://www.sendspace.com/file/7ku97r

[v0lt]

Update for translation of Chinese traditional/simplified and Dutch

https://www.sendspace.com/file/7ku97r
Thanks. Update in r3382.
Please also review the following lines.
STRING IDS_USAGE
STRING IDC_EXCLUSIVE_FULLSCREEN_CHECK
STRING IDS_APP_DESCRIPTION

[beter]

Thanks. Update in r3382.
Please also review the following lines.
STRING IDS_USAGE
STRING IDC_EXCLUSIVE_FULLSCREEN_CHECK
STRING IDS_APP_DESCRIPTION
Update:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/m3ro2p

[Klaus1189]

It just happened and made a short video with my phone. I was moving the mouse in circles so one can see the system hangs and the mouse pointer jumps during hang.
Just recognized that a circle doesn't appear.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U-TnkrPiM5VylPI0bWXBAUcO7Xkvsvi6/view?usp=sharing

does anybody know what is causing this behavior? I am sure other player also behave that way, but I only use MPC-BE :sly:

[Aleksoid1978]

does anybody know what is causing this behavior? I am sure other player also behave that way, but I only use MPC-BE :sly:

Sometimes it's happened on my workink PC. System "hang" for little time on opened/closed files. DXVA or software. Reboot can help. Video - RX 460. Never happened on system with Nvidia.

It's not a MPC-BE issue - i think video driver.

[steakhutzeee]

Don't know why I can't use seek bar reproducing dvd discs, even with movies aired in TV. These dvd has flags for the chapters so I can jump to them but I can select a point of my choice and go to it... Why this?

I use madvr and lav.No one? [emoji21]

[Klaus1189]

Sometimes it's happened on my workink PC. System "hang" for little time on opened/closed files. DXVA or software. Reboot can help. Video - RX 460. Never happened on system with Nvidia.

It's not a MPC-BE issue - i think video driver.

Yeah, I use an AMD RX480 in that computer. That helps me, thanks.

[Klaus1189]

No one? [emoji21]

I want help to help you. Can you please explain it a bit more, I don't understand what you wrote.

[steakhutzeee]

I want help to help you. Can you please explain it a bit more, I don't understand what you wrote.Yep, thanks!

When reproducing a movie I have as a file on pc I can use my seek bar without problems, so I can jump to a point of the movie back or forward.

With dvd discs I can't, i can only press the button to jump to next or previous chapter.

This happens not only on original DVD discs, but also with dvd with movie recorded from a TV.

Don't know if it is important but with windows media player I've same issue. I opened it just for try. Vlc has no problem instead.

[Klaus1189]

Now I got it. You use LAV Filters. Disable for testing purposes both external LAV Filters and madVR, use EVR CP and internal Filters of MPC-BE. Is It fine then?
After that switch on LAV Video Filter, then Audio Filter, then LAV Splitter, then madVR.
What thappens? Possible issue in LAV.

[steakhutzeee]

Now I got it. You use LAV Filters. Disable for testing purposes both external LAV Filters and madVR, use EVR CP and internal Filters of MPC-BE. Is It fine then?
After that switch on LAV Video Filter, then Audio Filter, then LAV Splitter, then madVR.
What thappens? Possible issue in LAV.Uhm, enabled EVR instead of madvr (I need the standard one right? Because I don't see CP anywhere, only in option if I select EVR custom).

And disabled all lav filters like you can see in spoiler image. But when running the disk I can see that lav audio/video is still active. Why? Maybe I've to enable some internal filters? Because I ve all disabled in Internal Filters -> Source Filters/Decoder Video/Decoder Audio.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/c16cfbbc0a7dbc2a05a85b4b8e551e93.jpg


Tried to enable them -all-, but problem persists. Here my filter list now. In spoiler.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/311281e35908ab24504101ea23442084.jpg


It's strange because at first with madvr when I click somewhere i can see the seconds I clicked on screen but nothing happens. Next times I see the time but image start for just the moment I click, like frame to frame, don't know how to explain.

With evr instead i can always see the timing I select but it has not effect because the movie doesn't jump at the moment I selected.

And it's much strange because with another DVD now, same type, recorded directly from TV. The problem doesn't occurs...

[Klaus1189]

EVR CP = custom presenter, it‘s the default video renderer.
I think the best choice is to reset to default settings, you can block LAV for testing purposes in external filters page in options.

[Klaus1189]

Enable all internal filters.

[Klaus1189]

You have to tick block on the right when the filter is marked, be sure to check the filters itself on the list.

[steakhutzeee]

I enabled all internal filters and evc as said above. But nothing.

You can see in fact my active filters in the second image I posted under spoiler.

[Klaus1189]

Reset settings

[steakhutzeee]

Reset settingsCan I backup my settings?

[JNW]

Can I backup my settings?

Settings are stored in registry.
Options -> Miscellaneous -> Export

[steakhutzeee]

Did it, default settings. Same problem.

It's strange because with windows media player classic I have same problem. No problem with vlc.

Note that if I open the singles vob file I can jump to any point of video so no problem.

[Klaus1189]

not "windows media player classic" -> Windows Media Player
VLC has its own codecs built in which work or not, you cannot do anything if it doesn't work.


1.) Now MPC-BE is reset to default, take a look at external filters, are the filters now also in the list?
2.) Rightclick on videoframe when you play the DVD -> Filter -> Screenshot needed
3.) Be sure that all internal Filters in MPC-BE are enabled/checked.
4.) What OS are you using? -> like Windows 7 , 8.1, 10
5.) What MPC-BE version are you using?
6.) What LAV Filters version are you using?
I need all six points, otherwise I can not help you.

[steakhutzeee]

not "windows media player classic" -> Windows Media Player
VLC has its own codecs built in which work or not, you cannot do anything if it doesn't work.


1.) Now MPC-BE is reset to default, take a look at external filters, are the filters now also in the list?
2.) Rightclick on videoframe when you play the DVD -> Filter -> Screenshot needed
3.) Be sure that all internal Filters in MPC-BE are enabled/checked.
4.) What OS are you using? -> like Windows 7 , 8.1, 10
5.) What MPC-BE version are you using?
6.) What LAV Filters version are you using?
I need all six points, otherwise I can not help you.Ok, here we go:

1. MPC BE reset to default, No external filter is listed.

2. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/8aeafba7c704a7bb3da193d9b866a584.jpg

3. All internal filters enabled/checked.

4. Windows 7 x64.

5. MPC BE 1.5.1 build 2985, not updated if there's new one because I have internet problems at home these days.

6. Lav 0.70.2, but they are disabled now because I reset MPC BE.

[Klaus1189]

If there is a problem, first update to latest build and check if it is already fixed in the new version.
Nightlies -> https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58
You can also download the installer/zip folder on your mobile phone and copy the installer/zip folder onto your computer, because you mentioned internet problems.

[Zero3K]

I have some questions regarding it:

1. Is it possible to load separate audio and video streams via remote control (web interface)?
2. Can the remote control (web interface) be polled for status fast enough to make player sync possible with decent results?

[steakhutzeee]

If there is a problem, first update to latest build and check if it is already fixed in the new version.
Nightlies -> https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58
You can also download the installer/zip folder on your mobile phone and copy the installer/zip folder onto your computer, because you mentioned internet problems.

I did auto update in mpc be and it updated to 1.5.2 (build 3148) beta.

Why this not updated to the last (it is?) 3391?

EDIT: I think i was connected to the repo on sourceforge where last version is the one i downloaded.
Unistalled completely mpc be and downloaded last 1.5.2.3991 from your link. Nothing. Problem persists.

[Klaus1189]

For me it is working, so the last advice I can give is to disable Line 21 Decoder 2 -> Add Line 21 Decoder 2 to external filters list, mark it and select on the right "block" this filter.

[steakhutzeee]

For me it is working, so the last advice I can give is to disable Line 21 Decoder 2 -> Add Line 21 Decoder 2 to external filters list, mark it and select on the right "block" this filter.Nope, did it but nothing...
With single vobs I can jump in the file without problems.

[v0lt]

@steakhutzeee
Please repeat briefly:
1. What DVD is the problem?
2. What is the problem?
3. If you can reproduce the problem in MPC-HC and Windows Media Player?

[steakhutzeee]

@steakhutzeee
Please repeat briefly:
1. What DVD is the problem?
2. What is the problem?
3. If you can reproduce the problem in MPC-HC and Windows Media Player?

1. It's not one, almost all my dvds. The ones I made my self recording a movie from TV too, well not me, my family member.

2. Can't use the seekbar to jump at a point of the movie, back and forth.

3. Yes, only vlc runs without problems.

[Klaus1189]

It's not one, almost all my dvds.

So for some DVDs you can seek like you want? I remember that there are methods of DVD authoring which blocks the seek command. The creator of the dvd(s) does not want you to do this.
There is nothing you can do except ripping the disc and play that.

[tonyrulez]

Hi there,
I was just informed that MPC-HC's development has ended, and I should try MPC-BE. So here I am, and I'm just writing down some stuff that I miss from MPC-HC (maybe they are in the settings and I'm the one who can't find it :)):

1. Auto subtitle downloading: In MPC-HC it has a system, and I love it. Basically you can set it to auto-download the correct subtitle in the preferred language right when you open the video file. You have to do nothing in order to have a subtitle. Looks like in MPC-BE you have to hit D and manually select it. Here comes the second problem: MPC-BE only uses Opensubtitles, which is not so great for TV shows. MPC-HC also has Podnapisi and SubDB. It always (well, 99.99% of the time) finds the correct subtitle. MPC-BE with only Opensubtitles does not. Third problem: I can't select the preferred language in subtitle downloading window. Looks like the english (or preferred?) one gets to the top, but the rest is still unnecessary.
So what's missing is:
a) auto-download
b) more database source
c) language filter

2. How can I turn on the full OSD? What I mean is, when I jump backward/forward with the left/right arrow, I don't see the time mark in the top left corner.

3. How can I set it to exit after a video was finished playing? Can't find this option. If I'm finished with a video, I don't want to stare at a black screen/window.

[v0lt]

tonyrulez
1. I do not remember that this ever worked well in MPC-HC. Every time when I tried to just get a list of subtitles, I was getting nonsense.
Not planned.

2. See options "Show OSD", "Show seek time" in "Player" setting page.

3.See option "Exit fullscreen at the end of playback" in "Fullscreen" setting page.
See "Play->After playback->Exit" in menu.

[tonyrulez]

Thank you! I totally skipped these settings.

As for the subtitles in MPC-HC, it works for me and worked for the last year. List also shows the subtitles all right, see attached sample: https://p1.picsto.re/w9OT1.png. An auto-download would be great nonetheless, based on the release group.

[steakhutzeee]

So for some DVDs you can seek like you want? I remember that there are methods of DVD authoring which blocks the seek command. The creator of the dvd(s) does not want you to do this.
There is nothing you can do except ripping the disc and play that.And why vlc can? [emoji848]

[Klaus1189]

And why vlc can? [emoji848]

Maybe it doesn't use specs, simple as that.

[steakhutzeee]

Maybe it doesn't use specs, simple as that.Specs?

[Klaus1189]

DVD specs

[Klaus1189]

To be more precise, maybe VLC simply ignores prohibited user operations of specific DVDs which were mastered that way.

[v0lt]

@steakhutzeee
Wikipedia has an article on it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_operation_prohibition).
MPC-BE, MPC-HC, WMP and many other DirectShow players use the system "DVD Navigator" filter by Microsoft for DVD.

[steakhutzeee]

@steakhutzeee
Wikipedia has an article on it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_operation_prohibition).
MPC-BE, MPC-HC, WMP and many other DirectShow players use the system "DVD Navigator" filter by Microsoft for DVD.Thank you! Very interesting [emoji16]

[GCRaistlin]

Can MPC-BE open acestream links? I tried the last nightly build with no success.

[Aleksoid1978]

Can MPC-BE open acestream links? I tried the last nightly build with no success.

Support.

[Zero3K]

I have some questions regarding it:

1. Is it possible to load separate audio and video streams via remote control (web interface)?
2. Can the remote control (web interface) be polled for status fast enough to make player sync possible with decent results?

Anyone?

[Klaus1189]

I have some questions regarding it:
1. Is it possible to load separate audio and video streams via remote control (web interface)?
2. Can the remote control (web interface) be polled for status fast enough to make player sync possible with decent results?
Anyone?

I don't understand what you wrote. Please be more precise. Hopefully I can help you then.

[Zero3K]

I don't understand what you wrote. Please be more precise. Hopefully I can help you then.

I just copied and pasted what the developer of the program (called StreamBuffRe, which can be found at http://streambuffre.com) asked me regarding MPC-BE. I made an issue on its issue tracker that is available for replying to by going to https://github.com/Felmachersoft/StreamBuffRe/issues/9.

[GCRaistlin]

Support.

What "support"?

[chros]

What "support"?
I think he meant: it's already supported (I haven't tried it personally).
Can you post a link for such a stream?

[steakhutzeee]

I'm experiencing a strange behavior of mpc be interface.

I use madvr and when switch profiles the interface automatically change from normal or compact to the minimal.

Causing flashing of the program during the change, and when I close the player it stays in that new format.

[Zero3K]

I just copied and pasted what the developer of the program (called StreamBuffRe, which can be found at http://streambuffre.com) asked me regarding MPC-BE. I made an issue on its issue tracker that is available for replying to by going to https://github.com/Felmachersoft/StreamBuffRe/issues/9.

Here's what the developer posted as a reply to the issue that I linked to:

It comes down to the question if it can be controlled remotely well enough to fulfill following tasks:

1. Load a video with external audio source
2. Get the current playback time relative precise. The time between the actual playback time of the player changed and the information about this change is noticed by StreamBuffRe should be below 100 ms. At best this is handled via an event instead of polling the player to get the new playback position.

Now that sourceforge is back up I can take a look at the source code to find out if it is possible.

[huhn]

I'm experiencing a strange behavior of mpc be interface.

I use madvr and when switch profiles the interface automatically change from normal or compact to the minimal.

Causing flashing of the program during the change, and when I close the player it stays in that new format.

let me do a blind guess you use a hotkey to change the profile which is "1"?

[steakhutzeee]

let me do a blind guess you use a hotkey to change the profile which is "1"?Exactly, keys 1 and 2. Why?

These keys are yet used by mpc to change the interface? [emoji26]

[huhn]

yes they are about every key is used for something.

and i'm not going to ask why.

[chros]

let me do a blind guess you use a hotkey to change the profile which is "1"?
:d :d :d

[v0lt]

steakhutzeee
Open the player settings and the key settings as you need.

[ryrynz]

Volt, RC/Release soon?

[EasyStart]

Does anyone has problem with MPC-BE 1.5.1 stable release x64 running in Windows 7 Pro x64 with service pack 1, scanning Australian FreeView TV programs using a USB 2.0 TV tuner in a NUC mini pc's USB 2.0 port. I do not know if it is just me, MPC-BE keeps on crashing and aborting during TV program scannings. I am not able to scan TV programs.

Is there anyone with sucess on scanning TV programs ?

[Aleksoid1978]

Developer don't have such hardware and can't test/debug/develop work with tuner.

[EasyStart]

Should I give nightty a try ?

[EasyStart]

Aleksoid1978

Does MPC-BE has a working DVB-T implementation ?

[Aleksoid1978]

Aleksoid1978
Does MPC-BE has a working DVB-T implementation ?

As i know - no.

[EasyStart]

Thank you Aleksoid1978. That's all I need to know.

Can I request new feature in MPC-BE ?

I like to see an upsample of audio playback in MPC-BE. I know you can do it in Windows's Audio driver but it is unstable when you upsample audio to 192Khz. The higher the audio sample, the better the sound.

[Aleksoid1978]

Upsample don't do sound better.

[Manni]

Not sure if I should post here or in the LAV thread but I'll try here first.

I'm using MPC-BE (x64), LAV and MadVR to play my UHD Bluray discs. I can create rips using AnyDVD/Clown BD, DVD Fab or Makemkv, either as folders or single file, for movie only (preferably, to save space and make parsing easier if folders).

I've tried them all and I can't find a straightforward way to get the movie only rip to behave the way a disc behaves when I play it in my player (a Pana UB900):

When/if there are forced subtitles, they are played automatically, but the full subtitles (English or hard of hearing) are not.

I tried to use the "create forced subs" in LAV, but that is usually empty.

Here is the behaviour I get when creating a movie only with folders or mkv file:

- DVDFab selects the English subs track and plays it, not just the forced subs
- AnyDVD/Clown BD allows me to select the English subs as default or not, but not just the forced subs
- Makemkv creates forced subs tracks if I check the "forced subs" boxes, but it doesn't make them default/forced. I have to remux them with mkvtoolnix to set the forced subs only track to default.

So the last option is what I use, but it's convoluted and time-consuming due to the remux and the time involved in identifying the correct forced sub track to set it as default, as you need to know where forces subs are in order to cehck and set the track.

My question is, is there a simple way, using either of these tools (preferably not DVDFab as it supports far less titles at the moment), to combine ripping method and settings in LAV/MPC-BE to get the behaviour I'd like (playback of forced english subs only, by default) for all titles?

Thanks!

[nevcairiel]

You can modify the stream flags in MakeMKV before ripping.

[lvqcl]

The higher the audio sample, the better the sound.

No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

[Manni]

You can modify the stream flags in MakeMKV before ripping.

Thanks, I know but the problem is that the flags in makemkv don't seem to work.

For example, if I set a makemkv flag as df (Default forced) the flags in the resulting file are not set to default / forced for that track.

Also you still have to figure out which subtitles track contains the forced subs. It's usually the track set to default but sometimes you have 4 or 5 english subs tracks and you have to check them one by one.

Are you actually doing this and does it work for you, or is this a theoretical answer?

For me the only way to get the proper track to play is to remux with mkv toolnix with the flags properly set.

It seems like a very simple thing to do (keep the flags as they are set originally for the ripper and for the player to play them the way a standalone player would.

Why is it not straightforward?

[nevcairiel]

Changing the flags in MakeMKV works fine for me.

[Manni]

Changing the flags in MakeMKV works fine for me.

Ok, so please could you tell me which flags you set in makemkv for the forced sub you want to play by default, how do you locate the correct one, and which settings you use in MPC-BE and LAV so that it plays only the forced subs automatically? Because it doesn't work here when I do what I described ealier.

Thanks!

[nevcairiel]

Finding the correct track cannot be automated, you just have to try. If there is only one english track, its usually the forced sub-track of that one, if there is multiple ones, just gotta have to play the movie to find out.
For flags, i usually just set them to "df" and nothing else. I also don't include any other tracks in the file, but if you do, you should make sure that nothing else is set to default (multiple default tracks can cause selection to go wrong).

I don't use MPC-BE, but I believe it has options to override the splitters stream selection, that should be set to give the splitter full control over the selection. In LAV you can just use the "Only Forced Subtitles" mode (and set a subtitle language, of course), which should work just fine then.

[Manni]

Finding the correct track cannot be automated, you just have to try. If there is only one english track, its usually the forced sub-track of that one, if there is multiple ones, just gotta have to play the movie to find out.
For flags, i usually just set them to "df" and nothing else. I also don't include any other tracks in the file, but if you do, you should make sure that nothing else is set to default (multiple default tracks can cause selection to go wrong).

I don't use MPC-BE, but I believe it has options to override the splitters stream selection, that should be set to give the splitter full control over the selection. In LAV you can just use the "Only Forced Subtitles" mode (and set a subtitle language, of course), which should work just fine then.

Thanks for the detailed reply. The problem with the "Only forced subtitles" in LAV, if I understand how it works correctly, is that it doesn't allow you to select manually another subtitle track if you want to. I'll try again with the makemkv flags, but that's exactly what I do and it doesn't worked. It might be because I need to save all the english and French tracks.

I don't think MPC-BE is set to override anything as usually the selected track follows LAV settings, but I'll double check.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer.

[nevcairiel]

The problem with the "Only forced subtitles" in LAV, if I understand how it works correctly, is that it doesn't allow you to select manually another subtitle track if you want to

Of course it does, this only affects the pre-selection. Just to be clear I'm talking about the "Subtitle Selection Mode" dropdown, not any of the checkboxes.
The checkbox with a similar wording is probably never of any good use.

[Manni]

Of course it does, this only affects the pre-selection. Just to be clear I'm talking about the "Subtitle Selection Mode" dropdown, not any of the checkboxes.
The checkbox with a similar wording is probably never of any good use.

ah ok, that's great, I'll try that then, I was thinking of the checkbox. I thought the selection meant only the forced subs would be loaded.

I'll try with all this info and I'll report back.

Thanks again for the clarification :)

[Manni]

So I ripped again marking the correct forced sub track as df, and even with all the other forced and not forced tracks saved in English and French, MPC-BE played the forced subs directly with the "only forced subs" option (not checkbox) enabled. You might want to rephrase the explanation text associated with this option, because it says "only subtitles marked as forced will be loaded". This is why I never tried it (I guess I should have!)

Thanks again for your help, it's great to have this working without having to remux with mkvtoolnix.

[GCRaistlin]

I think he meant: it's already supported (I haven't tried it personally).
Can you post a link for such a stream?

acestream://af2c4c8b5a6231c358cdd3faa195d4b284ae7883

[GCRaistlin]

I think he meant: it's already supported (I haven't tried it personally).
Can you post a link for such a stream?

acestream://af2c4c8b5a6231c358cdd3faa195d4b284ae7883
Got "File not found" error.

[Aleksoid1978]

acestream://af2c4c8b5a6231c358cdd3faa195d4b284ae7883
Got "File not found" error.

acestream://af2c4c8b5a6231c358cdd3faa195d4b284ae7883 is equivalent to http://127.0.0.1:6878/ace/getstream?id=af2c4c8b5a6231c358cdd3faa195d4b284ae7883

if you acestream settings default - it must working.

[GCRaistlin]

Aleksoid1978, it's working this way, thanks!
But there's a little issue though: if an acestream URL is being opened right after MPC-BE starts it always fails with "File not found" error.
I wrote a batch script that converts the native acestream link format to the one that MPC-BE understands. It looks like this (simplified):

set Link=%1
for /f "delims=/ tokens=2" %%A in ("%Link%") do (
set Link=http://127.0.0.1:6878/ace/getstream?id=%%A
)
start "" mpc-be64.exe "%Link%"

It passes the correct parameter to MPC-BE but MPC-BE returns "File not found" error. To make it work, I added to the end of the script:

>nul ping 10.0.254.254 -n 1 -w 1000
start "" mpc-be64.exe "%Link%"
:For
for /f "skip=3 tokens=2 eol=" %%A in ('tasklist /fi "IMAGENAME eq mpc-be64.exe"') do (
if errorlevel 1 (
taskkill /pid %%A
) else (
(for /f %%z in ("") do cd) || rem
)
)
if errorlevel 1 (
set /a 0
goto For
)

It works this way but it's a real crutch. Can you please fix it in MPC-BE itself (I suppose you're a developer, right?)

EDIT: no I was wrong, it doesn't always help. Very unstable. "File not found" is very often, even if I try to open the URL manually. It also happens that the URL seems to be being opened - I hear the sound of the translation for a moment, but the screen remains blank and the state is Paused.

[feelingblue]

Hi

I have various BD 3D.
I ripped them on my hard drive in full form.
The file structure is untouched.
With PowerDVD I can read them correctly, with full resolution 3D active.
With MPC the film is always seen in 2D.
The SBS mkvs instead are correctly viewed in 3D.

I tried everything, any decoder and any render.

The video card is an Nvidia 1080 and 3D Surround is active and working properly.

is there a way to watch movies in full 3D or do I have to create HSBS mkvs?

thank you

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE support only output row-interleaved output(for TV with passive 3D). If you need frame-packed - use madVR.

[v0lt]

Current nightly builds can be downloaded here - https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK

[IanD]

There is no official 3D4K video, only 1920x1080, and video-renderer do upscale to 4k resolution.

I don't require an official 3D4K video, simply a decoder that will decode mvc to a 2D 1920x2160 (or 3840x2160) frame comprised of the left and right eye 1920x1080 views interleaved that can be rendered to a 4k desktop in full screen mode. I don't see how this is so different to decoding any non-official irregular size video file and then scaling to fullscreen.

I understand LAV, or any other decoder that uses the Intel mvc code, decodes mvc to two 1920x1080 eye views (although not separate streams) which are then passed to MPC for rendering, so it does exist notionally as 1920x2160 (or perhaps 3840x1080) data at some point. All I need is for that data to be reconfigured to an interleaved frame and presented to the renderer. An option to reverse the eye views would be useful as there are some titles that don't follow the standard left first convention.

Neither Nevcariel or Madshi are interested in providing this feature, but it would be invaluable for those of us with passive 3D 4k displays as it means both 4k desktop and 3D video can be presented as standard 2D without the TV having to switch modes or mess with the video. It also potentially means that video can be further processed before presentation in an HTPC without relying on limited or substandard TV based processing: not something that can be done with the standard frame-packed output that most developers seem to be concentrating on.

I really hope you will consider implementing this feature for 4k TV/monitor in MPC-BE in future.

[Aleksoid1978]

IanD
MPC-BE can output(using internal video decoder + EVR-CP) 3D video to full OverUnder(1920x2160) stereo pair. Check popup menu "Stereo 3D mode -> OverUnder"

[IanD]

IanD
MPC-BE can output(using internal video decoder + EVR-CP) 3D video to full OverUnder(1920x2160) stereo pair. Check popup menu "Stereo 3D mode -> OverUnder"

Unfortunately this depends on putting the TV into a special 3D mode to process OU stereo pairs into the TV native interleaved arrangement, at which point the 2D desktop is unworkable and switching between the two a real pain: it's not the ideal approach for owners of passive 3D 4k TV/monitor.

I don't know if you have ever tried to watch a 2D desktop when the TV has been switched to 3D mode, but it's terrible: it's not possible to use the mouse because the location no longer matches the screen position. And every time you need to switch between 3D and desktop, the TV needs to be switched to a different mode. It's hell on the eyes and should really not be necessary in an age of programmability.

Since MPC-BE obviously can create OU 1920x2160 stereo pair, is it so difficult to create an option of an interleaved 1920x2160 stereo pair? It would really help us passive 3D 4k owners.

I think you already have an interleaved option, but it filters the vertical resolution to cater for 1080p passive displays. Perhaps you could add a special new 4k interleaved option that simply ignores the filtering of the current 1080p interleaved version? I would be prepared to accept a garbage 3D window if it meant fullscreen was unmolested 3840x2160 interleaved 3D.

[Aleksoid1978]

I don't have a 4K 3D TV and can't test and watch a result. Maybe somebody sponsor to improve development :)

[Aleksoid1978]

IanD
Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/yoHTeCw23SqsDw
Set "Stereo 3D mode -> Auto", it's output to 1920x2160 interleaved mode.

[IanD]

I don't have a 4K 3D TV and can't test and watch a result.
I'm more than happy to test any development code you might implement for this feature.

IIRC you already have an interleaved option, so the code should be virtually the same, minus any code to downscale the 1920x1080 eye views before interleaving.

Alternatively, you could take the output of OU and remap to interleaved (might be the better option as subtitles, etc are all taken care of already).

[IanD]

IanD
Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/yoHTeCw23SqsDw
Set "Stereo 3D mode -> Auto", it's output to 1920x2160 interleaved mode.
Thanks for that.

I found I needed to install the Intel Media SDK and tick the H.264 (3D MVC) decoder option in addition to using your test mpc-be.exe before it would decode MVC, but now, in Stereo 3D Mode = Auto, I am getting the full 1920x2160 interleaved 3D.

I also have to activate Video->Stretch To Window for fullscreen to scale 1920x2160 to 3840x2160 but it appears to be working as I had hoped.

Is there a way to force Stretch To Window every time, or is there another way to activate scaling permanently, as it only seems to remain active for the current instance of mpc-be.exe? I'm guessing it has something to do with not processing aspect ratio or something, but it's currently working quite well as it is. I'm impressed with the clarity compared to my 3D Bluray player.

[Aleksoid1978]

Thanks for that.

In Auto mode it's only displaying a 2D 1920x1080 frame: there doesn't seem to be any 3D decoding happening.

Row Interleaved produces a weird interleaved version of an Over/Under presentation, whilst OU doesn't do anything.

Is your mpc-be.exe standalone or do I need to download or install any supplementary files like Intel's mvc decoder?

Yes - you need Intel's mvc decoder. Can download here - https://mpc-be.org/Intel_MSDK/

[Aleksoid1978]

I also have to activate Video->Stretch To Window for fullscreen to scale 1920x2160 to 3840x2160 but it appears to be working as I had hoped.

Is there a way to force Stretch To Window every time, or is there another way to activate scaling permanently, as it only seems to remain active for the current instance of mpc-be.exe? I'm guessing it has something to do with not processing aspect ratio or something, but it's currently working quite well as it is. I'm impressed with the clarity compared to my 3D Bluray player.

Options -> Video -> Framing -> Default mode - it's options remember.

As i understand - 1920x2160 row interleaved mode is working good ??

[wushantao]

there is a bug about “save image” and “save thumbnails”

“including subtitles” is NG, image file always with subtitles

[Aleksoid1978]

there is a bug about “save image” and “save thumbnails”

“including subtitles” is NG, image file always with subtitles

Don't confirm. Maybe subtitles embeded in video or use VSFilter.

[IanD]

Options -> Video -> Framing -> Default mode - it's options remember.

Okay, except "Stretch To Window" is not the best for conventional videos where "Touch Window From Inside" is usually the best default.

As i understand - 1920x2160 row interleaved mode is working good ??

Yes, it is performing exactly as I had hoped. Thank you again for making the code change.

Perhaps Auto is not the best tag for the 4k interleaved option and it might be better to have separate 1080p Interleaved and 4k Interleaved options. To me, Auto means automatically selecting the right option, but the software can't know if you want SBS, OU or Interleaved.

[Aleksoid1978]

It's just test build :)

[chros]

Good job, Aleks!

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3445) beta (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/1.5.2%20%28build%203445%29%20beta/) (SF.net)

[chros]

Thanks guys, I'll start to use it from this evening

[IanD]

It's just test build :)

Since it appears to be working quite well, do you have any plans to make the change(s) to the official builds?

[Aleksoid1978]

Since it appears to be working quite well, do you have any plans to make the change(s) to the official builds?

It's planned - but need time to implement :)

[wushantao]

Don't confirm. Maybe subtitles embeded in video or use VSFilter.

i didn't use VSFilter，and there is a screen gif to show you（3.3MB）

http://p3.cdn.img9.top/ipfs/Qmd1S5vJjX7C2iSko1zMMD96sshMhncTgauPmzebGrnXkU?3.gif

[ryrynz]

I had my File menu freezing the player, I went into the registry and deleted a key I think was called RecentFilesList (Not RecentFiles) and it's come right.
This key hasn't been recreated, any info about this?

[Aleksoid1978]

Show filters list.

[Zero3K]

The developer of StreamBuffRe whom is making a plugin for it that uses MPC-BE for the viewing of streams/videos buffered by it has ran into some issues. They are as follows:

1. Starting multiple MPCs (Instead of starting a new instance, the old instance plays the new stream)
2. It seems not possible to change the player title (to show what the actual stream name is)

It would be nice if someone could tell me how to fix one/both of them and I'll let the developer know.

[mkver]

Both of these things can be changed in the options (the "Player" tab of the options to be precise).

[Zero3K]

Both of these things can be changed in the options (the "Player" tab of the options to be precise).

But is there a way to customize the title bar via the command line?

EDIT: There was a feature request for MPC-HC which requested the ability to use /title to change its title that never got implemented. Maybe the developer of MPC-BE could implement it soon.

[Wakaku]

Thanks for having MPC-BE finally able to auto-rotate Matroska videos / MKV. It's a fantastic ability. I just downloaded and tested MPC-BE.1.5.2.3445.x64.

I often remux many videos of different formats into the MKV container so that I could embed an external XML rotation tag. For example, there are many videos which were shot sideways. Thus, I don't have to manually rotate those videos every time during playback. Thanks again! :)

[Zero3K]

Why is MPC-HC better at playing streams/videos located on the Internet than MPC-BE? Shouldn't MPC-BE be as good or better than MPC-HC when it comes to playing them?

[Klaus1189]

Why is MPC-HC better at playing streams/videos located on the Internet than MPC-BE? Shouldn't MPC-BE be as good or better than MPC-HC when it comes to playing them?

Please be more precise. An example stream can help the devs to reproduce your problem and fix it.

[Zero3K]

Please be more precise. An example stream can help the devs to reproduce your problem and fix it.

I am using StreamBuffre's (http://streambuffre.com) MPC-HC/MPC-BE plugin to play Twitch Streams/VODs. You can get it at https://github.com/Felmachersoft/StreamBuffRe/tree/master/experimental (it requires a paid license for StreamBuffRe).

[Zero3K]

Has anyone else experienced the problems that I have noticed when using what I mentioned?

[nussman]

Your problem is this?
Why is MPC-HC better at playing streams/videos located on the Internet than MPC-BE?

[Zero3K]

Your problem is this?

Yes. That is my problem.

[nussman]

Do you think this is a helpful report? :rolleyes:

[v0lt]

MPC-BE does not support any plug-ins.

[Klaus1189]

I am using StreamBuffre's (http://streambuffre.com) MPC-HC/MPC-BE plugin to play Twitch Streams/VODs. You can get it at https://github.com/Felmachersoft/StreamBuffRe/tree/master/experimental (it requires a paid license for StreamBuffRe).

What is exactly your problem? What doesn't work like you want it to? image quality, audio quality, buffering behavior, ......

[Zero3K]

What is exactly your problem? What doesn't work like you want it to? image quality, audio quality, buffering behavior, ......

The problems with StreamBuffRe's MPC-BE plugin are as follows:

1. Livestreams take some time to load sometimes
2. Closing MPC-BE directly makes it hang for a short time. (Could be an MPC-BE problem)
3. The "play in running player" option is not working as intended due to the way new streams are opened in MPC-BE.
4. The name of the stream is not shown in MPC-BEs title bar.
5. Resizing and moving player window can fail in certain cases (needs more testing to find which cases these are).
6. The end of Streams is not yet detected, could be problematic for auto play.
7. Setting another Audio device is possible but will most likely fail due to an MPC-BE specific error (at least on my machines...). Maybe I remove the setting from the PlayerProfile.
8. Closing MPC-BE can cause sending an invalid time for the current stream corrupting the Playlist entry and making it unplayable ( for now just remove and re-add the entry).

[Zero3K]

MPC-BE does not support any plug-ins.

I know that. My issues are with StreamBuffre's plugin that uses MPC-BE for the playing of streams and videos handled by it.

[Zero3K]

Only post something here if you are sure the problem is on StreamBuffRe and not MPCs side.

So far I figured the last one out and fixed it:

Closing MPC-BE can cause sending an invalid time for the current stream corrupting the Playlistentry and making it unplayable ( for now just remove and read the entry).

The others so far:

Livestreams take some time to load sometimes
Closing MPC-BE directly makes it hang for a short time. (Could be an MPC-BE problem)

Problems on MPC side, can't fix.

The "play in running player" option is not working as intendent due to the way new streams are opened in MPC-BE.

This can only be handled if MPCs slave mode is used which I haven't yet get to work.

The name of the stream is not shown in MPC-BEs title bar (could be fixed with the hack from above).

Will do the hack.

Resizing and moving player window can fail in certain cases (needs more testing to find which cases these are)

The actual reason is the web control of MPC is not responding (sometimes it works if you wait a bit, but in the end the only real fix is the usage of the slave mode)

The end of Streams is not yet detected, could be problematic for auto play.

Should be easy, just not done yet.

Settings another Audio device is possible but will most likely fail due to an MPC-BE specific error (at least on my machines...). Maybe I remove the setting from the PlayerProfile.

I don't see any way to handle this. The audio device can be changed when using the MPC Audio renderer, but I don't see a way to change it via remote control or starting parameter.

Is what the developer just posted regarding it.

[v0lt]

Official ways to control the player:
- keyboard and mouse
- command line
- web interface
- MPCAPI_COMMAND (mpcapi.h)

If something of this does not work correctly, then tell me exactly what.
If there are problems with the playback of the network stream, then try LAV Slplitter Source.

[Zero3K]

Official ways to control the player:
- keyboard and mouse
- command line
- web interface
- MPCAPI_COMMAND (mpcapi.h)

If something of this does not work correctly, then tell me exactly what.
If there are problems with the playback of the network stream, then try LAV Slplitter Source.

I set LAV Splitter Source in the External Filters and changed the HTTP priority to it. Doing so didn't fix the issues with it playing the stream.

EDIT: I enabled UDP/HTTP since I disabled it and now the issues are fixed. So, its an issue with the internal filter used by MPC-BE when playing a HTTP stream. I hope that it is fixed in a later build.

EDIT2: Now its back to not working.

[mclingo]

just noticed something odd with BE which I've just reinstalled, latest version. When I play a HDR movie it should look washed out as when not used in conjunction with MADVR it doesnt trigger HDR mode on my TV, however when i PLAY HDR movies they look very similar but not quite as good as when I play then in HDR through MADVR, has something been added to MPCBE to convert HDR to SDR as standard, if so how to do turn this off?

edit - found it, if you enable direct 3d and 10 bit mode it reverts back, how long has the EVR custom presenter been able to convery HDR to SDR, is this a recent thing?

edit 2 - reinstalled 1.5.0, back to normal, reinstalled latest again, same issue so it started with this version, playbag is also a bit choppy for me so i'm staying on 1.5.0

[v0lt]

has something been added to MPCBE to convert HDR to SDR as standard, if so how to do turn this off?
This does not turn off for the EVR-CP. But this does not work for the system EVR and other renderers.

I do not understand why you should turn off HDR to SDR conversion for EVR-CP.

[Grimsdyke]

About chapter markers again. I have one Blu-Ray that is always loaded by BE using the same mpls and chapter markers do not work.
However, MPC-BE also offers (=> navigation) loading another mpls and with this chapter markers show up. Is there a way to 'force' BE to always use the other better playlist ??

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE load playlist with "longest" duration.

[Grimsdyke]

I am aware of that but MPC-BE lists two different playlists for the same file (same duration) and with the always loaded playlist chapter markers do NOT work - with the other they work.
Why does MPC-BE prefer the 'faulty' playlist ?

[ryrynz]

Show filters list.

I switched to internal filters, MPC audio renderer and EVR renderer but no change in File menu still usually freezing, ffdshow is in external but not ticked. I thought it might have something to do with the network location of the recent files but that doesn't seem to be the case. I tried deleting the recent file registry keys, deleting the player folder and reinstalling, unticking the remember recent files option but no change.

[chros]

I had my File menu freezing the player

I switched to internal filters, MPC audio renderer and EVR renderer but no change in File menu still usually freezing
How and when does it freeze?
Although I mostly don't use File menu at all (only if I have to save resynced subtitles), but for me always the network drives freezed it for couple of seconds. (Otherwise I just open files from a file manager or via the android remote.)

[mclingo]

This does not turn off for the EVR-CP. But this does not work for the system EVR and other renderers.

I do not understand why you should turn off HDR to SDR conversion for EVR-CP.

I was just used to seeing it unconverted, I thought something was wrong.

Assume it does nothing with none HDR material then, is there a performance hit to GPU/CPU?

just interested more then anything.

[v0lt]

Assume it does nothing with none HDR material then, is there a performance hit to GPU/CPU?
Converting HDR to SDR works for HDR streams only.

[ryrynz]

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes. Not 100% of the time either. I've had this issue before.. Once it freezes it needs to be force closed.

[v0lt]

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes.
Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".

[ryrynz]

Thanks, I remember now I had to do this before. Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

[chros]

Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".
@v0lt: is it because of network drives?

[v0lt]

I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.
This is true for all disks (HDD, USB, network) with a letter (X: ).

I think we can make the "Open Disk" menu always active. Then it will slow down when entering "Open Disk", not "File".
We will discuss this.

[chros]

Sounds good, I think that's how MPC-HC works (you can take a look).

[v0lt]

I looked at the code. The standard menu does not allow me to do as I wanted.

[chros]

I just tried it out, I have 1 network drive, 2 different drives in the laptop and 1 USB drive:
1. wake up the laptop from sleep
2. start MPC-BE without any files
3. hit File menu
short time to wait to be opened (~5 sec)
4. close MPC-BE
5. start MPC-BE without any files again
6. hit File menu
it instantly opens up

So, in my case, the OS (Win8.1) caches that the network drive is available so next time it won't wait for it (confirmed with Total Commander).

[BetA13]

hy there,

any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc?
The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE..

https://i.imgur.com/xrs3o3X.png

It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample..

im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this..

anyway, great player and development so far..

greetings :)

[v0lt]

BetA13
The screenshot is a very bad feature. We will not return it.
If you need a quality maping channels, use ffdshow or AC3Filter.

[P.J]

Why does AYUV use about twice more CPU rather than RGB32 for 4:4:4 10bit videos? :confused:

[v0lt]

Why does AYUV use about twice more CPU rather than RGB32 for 4:4:4 10bit videos? :confused:
I think converting to AYUV is not optimally realized. Please compare with LAV Video Decoder.

It should also be remembered that AYUV support in the drivers is implemented worse than NV12, YV12 or YUY2. Perhaps this also affects.

[clsid]

AYUV is slow and that is why it is disabled by default.

[Klaus1189]

hy there,

any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc?
The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE..

https://i.imgur.com/xrs3o3X.png

It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample..

im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this..

anyway, great player and development so far..

greetings :)

Does that feature with exactly that settings help you to get upmixed 5.1 out of stereo sources, so your rear speakers also play sound? What speakers do you use and how are the speakers connected to the computer?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k5QZH0UGlZrSWTnceszHG-GhttK98q1i/view?usp=sharing

[BetA13]

with this setting i hear the front LR also in the Back LR, Center also goes to back LR. This way i can watch movies in stereo and 5.1 without disturbing my neighbours :) and i can hear what people talk..i hate it when voice only comes trough the center.. i know i know, those settings arent the best, but they are working for me :)

im connected via analog, Front LR, Center/LFE, Back LR. Its like an TEUFEL system..

edit:

i just looked at your picture, wich is kinda hard when i BLOCK google :)

The setting you showed is not working like i wanted to. so this does not work for me, only way is to re map the channels? if these are teh right words for it...

im going to try ffdshow or ac3filter as external filter and see if it works..

Greetz

[Klaus1189]

with this setting i hear the front LR also in the Back LR, Center also goes to back LR. This way i can watch movies in stereo and 5.1 without disturbing my neighbours :) and i can hear what people talk..i hate it when voice only comes trough the center.. i know i know, those settings arent the best, but they are working for me :)

im connected via analog, Front LR, Center/LFE, Back LR. Its like an TEUFEL system..

edit:

i just looked at your picture, wich is kinda hard when i BLOCK google :)

The setting you showed is not working like i wanted to. so this does not work for me, only way is to re map the channels? if these are teh right words for it...

im going to try ffdshow or ac3filter as external filter and see if it works..

Greetz

OK, what exactly do you want?

[BetA13]

add/copy the front Left, Right and center -to- Rear Left and Right...wich is what i did on that screen..


edit:
tested ac3filter and ffdshow, they didnt do what i wanted so back to mpchc :(

[v0lt]

@BetA13
These filters do it all, and even more and better.
ffdshow Audio Processor->Mixer->Custom matrix
AC3Filter->Mixer->Mixing matrix

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese traditional/simplified and Dutch

https://www.sendspace.com/file/1402fa

[P.J]

I think converting to AYUV is not optimally realized. Please compare with LAV Video Decoder.

Same.

AYUV is slow and that is why it is disabled by default.

:thanks:

[robl45]

Same problem I had awhile back with no fix. I had to reinstall everything a while back and since then my subtitles are different. Using Mpc-BE, lav filters and madvr. The subtitles are just plain white with blackoutlines, they used to be yellow before. Currently they appear to be set to blue in the subtitle properties of mpc-be but no matter what they are just white.

Avatar used to be the fancy avatar style subtitles and now they are just this plain white boarded with black subtitle.

[Klaus1189]

Devs need a file to test with, just put a short sample online. Tools like MKVToolNix can cut out a short clip. Use a part where the subtitle is present.

[Klaus1189]

What filters are you using?

[robl45]

What filters are you using?

lav audio decoder, lav video decoder. lav splitter. madvr.

I have mkv toolnix but i don't know how to make a small section.

[sneaker_ger]

Open file in MKVToolnixGUI. Go "Output" tab. Split: "By parts based on timestamps". Enter e.g. "00:05:30-00:06:00" to cut from 5min30s to 6min00s. Click "Start muxing" and upload file to a hoster like e.g. MediaFire, Google Drive, MEGA, etc.

[sneaker_ger]

Avatar used to be the fancy avatar style subtitles and now they are just this plain white boarded with black subtitle.
If subtitles are "fancy Avatar style" like in Cinema they are probably in some kind of bitmap format (like a photo). If they are now in a different style you probably have a different subtitle track or (external) subtitle file selected. Changing style of bitmaps requires OCR as first step (can MPC-BE do that?).

[nevcairiel]

On the Blu-rays, only the "forced" (alien) subtitles used the fancy font to distinguish them from normal subtitles. But its quite likely that sneaker_ger is right and you just have text subtitles now.

[robl45]

I'm using a bluray converted to mkv. They are all like this. John Carter was yellow before I believe. Now all movies look the same.

[Klaus1189]

Sample file? You have instructions how to create a short clip, so the devs can test.

[robl45]

Sample file? You have instructions how to create a short clip, so the devs can test.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/12hozo2msa3zihr/avatar.3d.2009_new_sample.mkv


That should be it. I noticed looking at these and then looking the subs on john carter that they are different. Avatar is white with some black border and john carter is just white. They definitely were different before and I've tried adjusting all the sub colors and everything and nothing changes.

[sneaker_ger]

Those subtitle tracks are bitmap format (PGS) according to MediaInfo:
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

They are just plain white ones with black outline and shadow. So that's normal/correct. (The alien parts may be different as nevcairiel said.)

[robl45]

Those subtitle tracks are bitmap format (PGS) according to MediaInfo:
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

They are just plain white ones with black outline and shadow. So that's normal/correct. (The alien parts may be different as nevcairiel said.)

Those are right off the blueray disk. One of those files is the alien speaking parts.

Regardless of whats going on with those, still doesn't change the fact that in any of the movies with subtitles, I can't change the colors or anything.

EDIT: Okay, it seems you are correct about the alien subs on Avatar. I have multiple blueray sources and one of them does have the fancy alien subs. I'm not sure what happened there. Still other issue remains, all the subs are white and I can't change the colors.

[sneaker_ger]

Regardless of whats going on with those, still doesn't change the fact that in any of the movies with subtitles, I can't change the colors or anything.
Because those subtitles are stored as bitmaps. MediaInfo says "Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs". The styling settings of most players only apply to text based subtitles (like SRT). You can convert them to text based subtitles using a tool like SubtitleEdit (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162721) but the OCR process may require varying amounts of manual work. It's possible someone did that on your file, i.e. first OCR to SRT and then re-convert to PGS (or maybe some Avatar Blu-Rays or some tracks on them are simple style only).

[Aleksoid1978]

PGS subtitles - it's a bitmap format. MPC-BE just take a bitmap and draw as it is(scaling to windows size). You can't change colour.

[robl45]

Because those subtitles are stored as bitmaps. MediaInfo says "Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs". The styling settings of most players only apply to text based subtitles (like SRT). You can convert them to text based subtitles using a tool like SubtitleEdit (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162721) but the OCR process may require varying amounts of manual work. It's possible someone did that on your file, i.e. first OCR to SRT and then re-convert to PGS (or maybe some Avatar Blu-Rays or some tracks on them are simple style only).

They are definitely PGS subtitles, no arguments here. Still somehow with lav filters/madvr/ and mpc-be they were different colors before. The John Carter and Avengers copies I have are the same from at least a year and a half and the subtitles are definitely different colors now. Oh well, not a huge issue I guess, just annoying me.

[Grimsdyke]

@ devs. I am not sure if anything can be done about the following but I have one blu-ray in my collection on which one of the featurettes is actually 6 minutes longer than the main movie itself. So, BE always loads the featurette because it seem to look only at the duration !!
Movie: around 95 minutes & 22 GB size.
Featurette: around 101 minutes but only around 4.2 GBs (720x576)

So, not only checking the duration but also the file size to maybe better determin what the main feature is ??
Or even better, maybe you can implement a raw/basic menu like KODI has ?
Thanks.

Several months and builds later this problem is not fixed.
Is it really that hard to implement that BE is also looking at file size and/or resolution ? :confused:
Thx !!

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3479

[Zero3K]

It would be nice if MPC-BE worked properly when used by StreamBuffRe.

[Aleksoid1978]

Several months and builds later this problem is not fixed.
Is it really that hard to implement that BE is also looking at file size and/or resolution ? :confused:
Thx !!

Give me a link(torrent or simething else) for this BD. I download and checking.

[Grimsdyke]

Hi Aleks, either my Englisch is not good enough or something is lost in translation. I am pretty sure you do not need the disc contents to understand the problem.
Quick summary:
- Night of the living dead (George Romero, French Blu-Ray)
-> Movie length ca. 96 minutes, 1920*1080, file size: ca. 22.3 GB
--> Featurette length ca. 101 minutes, 720*576. file size: ca. 3.9 GB

MPC-BE always loads the featurette when opening this disc because of it's duration and not the movie !!! So is it not possible that BE also checks parameters like resolution and/or file size to make a better guess at what the main feature is ??
This may look like only a small issue but I have two external audio commentary tracks for the film and so I have to wait until BE has finished loading these audio tracks for the wrong content.
Only after that I can switch to the movie. I find that very inconvenient.

[Aleksoid1978]

For development & debug(testing) need source BD. I don't have it. If you don't want share it for me - sorry, It's not my fault.

[Grimsdyke]

Sorry but I am not interested to maybe get in any legal problems by sharing full contents !!
But I think you could do this on your own ! Take any motion picture blu-ray from your own collection (ideally also with SD content) -> copy it -> then cut down the main movie down to, say, 1 minute and see what happens next time you open it.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3479

Don't forget about me

[v0lt]

@beter, @Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3465 and r3487.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation: Crossfeed Update (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) :)

[Klaus1189]

I beg to increase one Label in Options, see screenshot (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gmF__NzovvYnVq2Zon6WeGNxqa6g1uTj/view?usp=sharing) - the last "n" is cut off and looks like an "r"

[JNW]

Thanks for adding the crossfeed option but there is a bug. If you go into filters -> MPC Audio Renderer properties and untick the option while a video is playing and then re-tick the option still while video is playing as soon as you click apply will cause MPC-BE to crash.

[Aleksoid1978]

Thanks for adding the crossfeed option but there is a bug. If you go into filters -> MPC Audio Renderer properties and untick the option while a video is playing and then re-tick the option still while video is playing as soon as you click apply will cause MPC-BE to crash.

Can't reproduce. Tick/untick many time while playing - all is ok.
Show Settings and Status in MPC Audio Renderer when playback.

[JNW]

Found the problem. It only happens if mixing has been enabled in either MPC-BE or LAV audio decoder.

[Aleksoid1978]

Found the problem. It only happens if mixing has been enabled in either MPC-BE or LAV audio decoder.

Show Settings and Status in MPC Audio Renderer when playback.

I think i found where is a bug. Wait a fix :)

[JNW]

Good work :) Thanks again for the function :thanks:

[ryrynz]

Any chance of having 'play next file in folder' apply when more than one file is in the playlist?
I've asked before.. I guess that ain't ever happening, would be nice though.

[Aleksoid1978]

Any chance of having 'play next file in folder' apply when more than one file is in the playlist?
I've asked before.. I guess that ain't ever happening, would be nice though.

No ...

[Zero3K]

It would be nice if MPC-BE worked properly when used by StreamBuffRe.

But nobody will even just try them together in order to see what's causing the problem.

[edigee]

A little problem:
Using the latest MPC-BC ,madVR(latest version) and ReClock cannot play a 720p mkv file with PCM 16/48 audio track. Also the LAV filters are updated to the latest version.
With MPC-HC(64bit) and madVR it works with no problems.

[Aleksoid1978]

A little problem:
Using the latest MPC-BC ,madVR(latest version) and ReClock cannot play a 720p mkv file with PCM 16/48 audio track. Also the LAV filters are updated to the latest version.
With MPC-HC(64bit) and madVR it works with no problems.

1) - Upload short sample file.
2) - Try without LAV filters.

[Midzuki]

https://www.videohelp.com/software/MPC-BE says:

Post #59 by TonyB

Massive memory Leak in version 3495

Last good version checked 3491

Question: has version 3496 fixed that problem? :confused:

[v0lt]

@Midzuki
Do you have any details? You can download and check it yourself.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing), updated new "close file" of 3497 and some other adjustments

[Klaus1189]

Today I had time and I used it to check every item in the textfile, to be sure, all are translated: 2000 lines -> It is 100% translated and I made a few changes. -> updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) :)

I have two questions:
1.) MPC-BE can add AutoPlay entries to windows. When I select DVD checkbox, it also adds one for Blu-rays. But I don't have enough space for "DVD/BD" in options page->player->formats bottom.
-> Is it possible to move "Audio-CD to the right, so "DVD/BD" has enough space? Also in other languages?

2.) I normally use a dedicated audioplayer for my music, but I recognized, that MPC-BE resizes its window to a small one if I play an audiofile, but in options->playback->last dropdownlist is set to do not change the window size.
I have also set MPC-BE to remember its windowsize in first page in options

[v0lt]

Thank you. Updated in r3499.

1 and 2. I'll try to find time and check.

[beter]

Update translation (Chinese Traditional/Simplified, Dutch)

https://www.sendspace.com/file/pp9ilr

[v0lt]

beter
Thank you. Updated in r3500.

Klaus1189
2. I can not confirm.

[Klaus1189]

2. I can not confirm.

If I leave remember last window size unchecked the size of the window stays the same and a speaker is visible -> default window size

If I have remember last window size enabled, use a 3840x2160p screen and when I play a 1080p file for example, then MPC-BE remembers (in 100% setting) 1920x1080 window size, but after starting to play an audiofile, the window gets smaller and a speaker icon is visible, then the size is the same as the default size.

If that's intended, then it's fine. I just thought I let you know ;)



I looked at all languages and made screenshots of the options page which you can find in my link at the bottom of this post. IMHO it is enough space.
I made one little mistake in my last translation and added also DVD/BD to the Checkbox.
Please put in AutoPlay the "Audio-CD" checkbox a little more to the right, so the new translation fits :)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing

But now it should be fine, no mistakes anymore :)

[Klaus1189]

Did you try changing to "do not change the window size" under Open Settings in the tab Playback?
Yes, see here:
MPC-BE resizes its window to a small one if I play an audiofile, but in options->playback->last dropdownlist is set to do not change the window size.
I have also set MPC-BE to remember its windowsize in first page in options

[Zero3K]

It would be nice if MPC-BE worked properly when used by StreamBuffRe.

The developer has got it to work in the new version. All he needs to do now is fix the issue with a stream/streams timing out often.

[Aleksoid1978]

If I leave remember last window size unchecked the size of the window stays the same and a speaker is visible -> default window size

If I have remember last window size enabled, use a 3840x2160p screen and when I play a 1080p file for example, then MPC-BE remembers (in 100% setting) 1920x1080 window size, but after starting to play an audiofile, the window gets smaller and a speaker icon is visible, then the size is the same as the default size.


Can't reproduce. Everything works as expected.

[Klaus1189]

Can't reproduce. Everything works as expected.

I made a short video (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) which shows my experience when it is set to do not change the window size:
Remember last window size was enabled, a 1080p video was scaled to 100% on 2160p screen, closed the video and player window stayed at 1920x1080, then a wav file was opened and the window was scaled to default size.
Then I disabled remember last window size and the player switched to default size when closing the videofile. And when opening the wav again the window doesn't change, because it was already on default size.

I just thought, the player should stay at 1920x1080 when opening the wav file and the remember last window size is enabled (underlined case).

If that is intended, it's OK, I just thought it must stay at 1920x1080.

@v0lt: Thank you for r3502
Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3502 :)

[Nothingness]

Hello!

I passed to my mother Media Player Classic Home Cinema, after Media Player Classic died. I used it myself, up until I switched to Media Player Classic Black Edition. I've kept checking both apps for new versions, but I''ve noticed these past months Media Player Classic Home Cinema have not had any updates, and after some investigations found out a few days ago the project has crashed and burned. So I sent by email Media Player Classic Black Edition and gave the news about Media Player Classic Home Cinema's demise to my mother.

The things I wanted to see if Media Player Classic Black Edition has added more images for the logo and toolbars, for my mother, so when I checked the links given here in this thread, see they are for SourceForge so when I checked them I see their numbers have shrunked greatly. The other links that were before lead to a Russian Forums, I think since I don't speak Russian, and I'm sorry if my English is weird since it's not my mother language, and there there were more of everything there, more images for the logos, 8 for sure., and more toolbars. I remember there was a change in Media Player Classic Black Edition that was affecting toolbars, and one updated one toolbar because of it.

Why did you change the links and point them to SourceForge instead? I'm curious to know since I'm sure people would like to have as many of them as possible.

[v0lt]

MPC-HC is not dead, it works fine on all supported systems from Vista to Win10.

We did not upload all those strange logos to SourceForge. Many of them were just bad.

[Klaus1189]

I checked r3504 and if I scroll down the formats list, there is a "empty" last line.

[v0lt]

I checked r3504 and if I scroll down the formats list, there is a "empty" last line.
I need more details.

[Klaus1189]

Ok, I made a screenshot and marked it. For comparison MPC-HC:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NPtCxHTSsFZqDQ-V8cKSSgfR3-AvDNvZ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14XVPcIYDVpCG221RpiKOWGdn30NoYdcm/view?usp=sharing

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
I see the interface bug when the scale is 125%. At 100% and 150% normal.

[Klaus1189]

I am always at 200% and see it, too.

[Klaus1189]

Is that interface bug "fixable"?

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
I just know that the bug depends on the height of the list and the system dpi. I do not know how to fix this.

[tyrindor]

Anyone have any idea why I get audio drops with DTS-HD and TrueHD tracks when "MPC Audio Renderer" is selected, but not when I have my receiver selected? I am bitstreaming via LAV with both methods, it shouldn't matter. I need the option to uncheck "Use System Channel Layout" which only MPC Audio Renderer offers. I'm using MadVR, and have tried exclusive fullscreen on/off, MadVR is set to match 24hz playback.

[chros]

I use it the exactly same way but I don't have any issues:
- MPC Audio Renderer
-- Primary Sound driver (every other audio device is disabled in the sound control panel of Windows)
--- here maybe you can select your AVR
-- Wasapi mode: exclusive
-- Use System Channel Layout: disabled
-- Release device when idle: enabled
-- Sync audio to video

Which Win do you use? (see mine in signature)

[tyrindor]

I use it the exactly same way but I don't have any issues:
- MPC Audio Renderer
-- Primary Sound driver (every other audio device is disabled in the sound control panel of Windows)
--- here maybe you can select your AVR
-- Wasapi mode: exclusive
-- Use System Channel Layout: disabled
-- Release device when idle: enabled
-- Sync audio to video

Which Win do you use? (see mine in signature)

I'm using Win10 x64. Only setting we have different is release device when idle, so i'll try enabling that.

MadVR's debug OSD (ctrl J) is showing a repeat frame every 4-7 minutes for me, what's it show for you? I wonder if that repeat frame is causing the audio to drop for a split second.

[tyrindor]

Still happens using your exact settings. Even tried a fresh brand new install of Win10, MPC-BE, LAV Filters, and MadVR. Makes no sense, for some reason MPC Audio Renderer is dropping the bitstream for a split second every 5 or so minutes. Sadly, if I can't fix this i'll have to just bitstream using directsound via my receiver which means I'll have to set windows manually to 2.0 for 2.0 sources to correctly use dolby surround.

Out of curiosity, what hardware decoder are you using in LAV video? I am using copy-back and heard that some of these can drop bitstreams.

[Aleksoid1978]

1 - try without LAV Audio Decoder.
2 - upload short sample, where is drop bitstream is happened.

[tyrindor]

1 - try without LAV Audio Decoder.
2 - upload short sample, where is drop bitstream is happened.

Removed LAV Audio and set MPC to bitstream DTS-HD/TrueHD. Still happens.

It's random, rewinding doesn't make it happen again. I've watched 3 TrueHD movies this week where it drops once every 5-10 minutes for a split second. These are 1:1 untouched remuxed blurays that I personally ripped and know are good. I want to blame HDMI handshake, but then it should be happening with DirectSound bitstreaming, but it doesn't. WASAPI is causing it somehow.

[Aleksoid1978]

Removed LAV Audio and set MPC to bitstream DTS-HD/TrueHD. Still happens.

It's random, rewinding doesn't make it happen again. I've watched 3 TrueHD movies this week where it drops once every 5-10 minutes for a split second. These are 1:1 untouched remuxed blurays that I personally ripped and know are good. I want to blame HDMI handshake, but then it should be happening with DirectSound bitstreaming, but it doesn't. WASAPI is causing it somehow.

Try without MadVR - just for test :)

[Aleksoid1978]

tyrindor
Try test build - https://yadi.sk/d/cT1Va7bY3UCzW3
If will be drops - it's create log file on you Desktop.

P.S. Also - check A/V sync after seeking & change audio-tracks.

Another test build - https://yadi.sk/d/sf0VhZUF3UDFzV
check for drops & A/V sync.

[tyrindor]

tyrindor
Try test build - https://yadi.sk/d/cT1Va7bY3UCzW3
If will be drops - it's create log file on you Desktop.

P.S. Also - check A/V sync after seeking & change audio-tracks.

Another test build - https://yadi.sk/d/sf0VhZUF3UDFzV
check for drops & A/V sync.

I will test these and report back when I get a chance. I am not sure how to create a log though.

[tyrindor]

First test build, dropped audio within 10 minutes. Not sure if the discontinuity was caused by seeking to skip the intro, but my render times are only 9ms due to my Titan XP. The drop happened 4 minutes later though.

2018.04.08 12:24:13.311 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by -1.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:24:13.311 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by -1.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:24:44.852 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 76.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:24:44.853 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 76.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:24:52.433 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 102.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:24:52.433 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 102.00 ms
2018.04.08 12:28:14.205 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 61440, dueTime = 2018830000(2018830000), refclock = 2019040000, sampleOffset = 0

EDIT: Second test build, same thing. By the way my setup is 64bit, so testing 64bit exe is easier for me.

[Aleksoid1978]

Second build don't create log file. And - it's for test. For me with second build don't have audio drop with bitstream.

[tyrindor]

Second build don't create log file. And - it's for test. For me with second build don't have audio drop with bitstream.

I just tested without MadVR (EVR Preset), and still got a drop. :(

[Aleksoid1978]

Try this - https://yadi.sk/d/BmlIoT0_3UDvos
It's create log file if drop and so. Testing without seeking - just open & playback some times.

[tyrindor]

Try this - https://yadi.sk/d/BmlIoT0_3UDvos
It's create log file if drop and so. Testing without seeking - just open & playback some times.

Getting drops on Dolby Digital 5.1 bitsreaming too, not just lossless it seems.

2018.04.08 21:52:55.392 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 25.00 ms(250000) [4800/19200 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 52460000/52710000
2018.04.08 21:52:55.392 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 24.00 ms(240000) [4608/18432 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 52470000/52710000
2018.04.08 21:52:55.393 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 24.00 ms(240000) [4608/768 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 52470000/52710000
2018.04.08 21:52:55.442 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 32.00 ms
2018.04.08 21:52:55.442 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 32.00 ms
2018.04.08 21:52:55.492 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 9216, dueTime = 53210000, refclock = 53780000(diff = 570000), sampleOffset = 15360
2018.04.08 21:58:29.911 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 32.00 ms
2018.04.08 21:58:29.911 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 32.00 ms
2018.04.08 21:58:29.961 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 16896, dueTime = 83830000, refclock = 84580000(diff = 750000), sampleOffset = 7680
2018.04.08 21:58:29.961 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 24576, dueTime = 84050000, refclock = 84580000(diff = 530000), sampleOffset = 0
2018.04.08 22:04:46.634 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 13824, dueTime = 3423500000, refclock = 3424010000(diff = 510000), sampleOffset = 10752
2018.04.08 22:09:41.102 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 10752, dueTime = 6368180000, refclock = 6368690000(diff = 510000), sampleOffset = 13824
2018.04.08 22:13:29.916 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 24576, dueTime = 8656320000, refclock = 8656830000(diff = 510000), sampleOffset = 0
2018.04.08 22:22:13.448 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 15360, dueTime = 13891640000, refclock = 13892150000(diff = 510000), sampleOffset = 9216

[Aleksoid1978]

Very strange. I try check at home(on my A/V reciver) when will be free time.

[Aleksoid1978]

tyrindor - new test build https://yadi.sk/d/T4RFgrPV3UEyrx

Test on AC3/TrueHD/DTS-HD. For me only drop on AC3/DTS-HD in 5-10m. The problem has not yet been clarified.

[tyrindor]

tyrindor - new test build https://yadi.sk/d/T4RFgrPV3UEyrx

Test on AC3/TrueHD/DTS-HD. For me only drop on AC3/DTS-HD in 5-10m. The problem has not yet been clarified.

Weird no one else has reported this. I'll report back when I get a chance.

[tyrindor]

TrueHD

2018.04.09 08:48:57.079 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 61440, dueTime = 2296190000, refclock = 2296700000(diff = 510000)
2018.04.09 08:54:24.399 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 61440, dueTime = 5569390000, refclock = 5569900000(diff = 510000)
2018.04.09 08:54:48.901 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 20.00 ms
2018.04.09 08:54:48.901 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 20.00 ms
2018.04.09 08:54:48.951 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Drop packet, size = 61440, dueTime = 5667590000, refclock = 5668170000(diff = 580000)

[Aleksoid1978]

Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/Qx-8lW1A3UGHT2

[tyrindor]

So far so good. One hour of TrueHD and one hour of Dolby Digital Plus with no drops.

If I could get a 64bit compile of that build it'd be appreciated and I can test further.

[Aleksoid1978]

So far so good. One hour of TrueHD and one hour of Dolby Digital Plus with no drops.

If I could get a 64bit compile of that build it'd be appreciated and I can test further.

What's about A/V sync - it's good ?? No desync ??

[tyrindor]

What's about A/V sync - it's good ?? No desync ??

I thought I noticed some slight A/V issues at the end of a dolby digital plus episode, but it may have been the rip. I will have to test further for A/V issues.

This is the log after playing both files:
2018.04.10 07:16:43.716 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 9.00 ms(90000) [1728/6912 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.717 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 9.00 ms(90000) [1728/6912 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.717 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 8.00 ms(80000) [1536/6144 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 10000/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.717 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 8.00 ms(80000) [1536/6144 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 10000/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.717 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 8.00 ms(80000) [1536/6144 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 10000/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.719 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 6.00 ms(60000) [1152/4608 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 30000/90000
2018.04.10 07:16:43.720 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 6.00 ms(60000) [1152/1536 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 30000/90000
2018.04.10 08:30:42.285 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 08:30:42.285 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 08:30:42.286 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 08:30:42.286 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 08:30:42.286 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by -1.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:30:42.287 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by -1.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:30:52.485 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 70.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:30:52.485 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 70.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:30:55.136 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by 97.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:30:55.136 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by 97.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:59:44.125 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by -1.00 ms
2018.04.10 08:59:44.126 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by -1.00 ms
2018.04.10 09:02:26.001 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.002 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.002 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.002 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.003 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.003 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.003 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.004 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.004 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.004 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.005 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.005 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Pad silence 1.00 ms(10000) [192/3072 (frames/bytes)] for clock matching at 0/10000
2018.04.10 09:02:26.005 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Discontinuity detected by -1.00 ms
2018.04.10 09:02:26.006 : CMpcAudioRenderer::RenderWasapiBuffer() - Correct reference clock by -1.00 ms

[tyrindor]

More testing, seeing some A/V issues sadly. Seems to get worse the longer something is played. Last thing I watched it started out fine, but about an hour in it was noticeably off.

Kinda starting to wonder if it's worth the headache, directsound bitstreaming works if I select my receiver instead.

[yonta]

Please add support for opus audio in mp4.
Internal mp4 splitter supports vp9 and ogg in mp4 but not opus audio.

[Aleksoid1978]

Please add support for opus audio in mp4.
Internal mp4 splitter supports vp9 and ogg in mp4 but not opus audio.

Done.

[yonta]

Wow! That's fast, thank you.

[Aleksoid1978]

tyrindor
Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/CnPLkVxg3UMWj5
it's don't create log file. Just check for drops and A/V sync.

[tyrindor]

tyrindor
Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/CnPLkVxg3UMWj5
it's don't create log file. Just check for drops and A/V sync.

I'll test for a few days and get back to you, perhaps earlier if I see any issues.

[Arm3nian]

Is there anyway to get smooth seeking? Without delays/buffering/lag. For example, like in premiere pro. I've tried the fastest algorithms in madvr and sw/hw decoding but it's never perfect.

[Aleksoid1978]

Is there anyway to get smooth seeking? Without delays/buffering/lag. For example, like in premiere pro. I've tried the fastest algorithms in madvr and sw/hw decoding but it's never perfect.

It's not possible.

[foxyshadis]

Premiere does it by reading the entire file start to finish and recording the seek points of each frame. That can take minutes before you can even start watching the movie, no one wants to put up with that just to get slightly faster seeking during a movie.

[amayra]

i think is about time to give assfiltermod another chance as experimental for advance user

[Aleksoid1978]

i think is about time to give assfiltermod another chance as experimental for advance user

No. It's don't support multiple pins.

[v0lt]

@amayra
In the MPC-BE code there is such a macro.
#define ENABLE_ASSFILTERMOD 0
Very advanced users can change it, rebuild MPC-BE and try this filter locally. But I immediately warn you, this is a bad idea. In the official builds this will not happen, of course.

[Klaus1189]

Do I still need DirectX 9.0c runtime for MPC-BE when I do a clean fresh install of Win 10 Pro?

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
The player only needs d3dx9_43.dlll and d3dcompiler_47.dl, which are available in installers and archives.

[Klaus1189]

Thank you v0lt, I updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3531

I noticed that the checkboxes look much better now @200%, but the empty last line (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NPtCxHTSsFZqDQ-V8cKSSgfR3-AvDNvZ) in formats list is still visible. Do you think it is fixable somehow?

Do you have plans for a new beta release and maybe also a stable release? I am just inquisitive, I use nightlies :)

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3533.
The empty space at 200% should decrease in r3534, but possibly increased at 150%.

[Klaus1189]

It looks better now at 100%, 150% and 200% (I tried these three). Thanks :)

[tyrindor]

tyrindor
Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/CnPLkVxg3UMWj5
it's don't create log file. Just check for drops and A/V sync.

Seems to be working still.

[Aleksoid1978]

Seems to be working still.

I'm rewrite audio-renderer, you can use latest SVN version.

[tyrindor]

I'm rewrite audio-renderer, you can use latest SVN version.

Do you have a link? The latest I am seeing is from 02/28.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/

[Aleksoid1978]

https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last

[huhn]

is a reclock like feature planned in your rewrite?

[v0lt]

is a reclock like feature planned in your rewrite?
Not planned.

[JarrettH]

I know it's supported, but is ace stream not functional? After I paste the acestream://dsfkjdsfkfs url, it tries to load and goes directly to "file not found."

[mytbyte]

Acestream works here but can anyone please advise why switching audio language (from rus to eng for example) while playing acestream links directly or from playlist, stops the playback or jumps to the next...how to circumvent this?...I hate to use VLC since deinterlacing (software) is choppy on my config, DXVA is smooth as silk always

EDIT: OK, false alarm, I reverted to internal splitter instead of LAV splitter and it works...as far as I can see...

[Klaus1189]

I beg to change a feature - Delay when Refresh rate change is done.
In MPC-HC 1.7.13.112 nightly, the first frame is already rendered but paused and after the delay is done, the playback starts.
In MPC-BE 1.5.2.3559 nightly the delay is runnig before the first frame is presented and causes some dropped frames in madVR.
This would help me to use this feature to get 0 dropped/repeated frames in madVR.

Probably it is "only" a change in source code of a place the delay code?

I searched for the commit of Alex Marsev back in 2013 who added it for me in MPC-HC :)
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/8502b0a38235b622c4bd2ebd2cdefae1c67b3c0d

[Klaus1189]

I tried 1.7.2, which doesn't work like 1.7.13.112. I check the versions between these to see which commit(s) might be useful.

[Klaus1189]

1.7.10 is not fine
1.7.11 is fine
now trying to find the nightly builds between those two.

[Klaus1189]

1.7.9.213 from 11.11.2015 is not fine
1.7.10.5 from 14.11.2015 is fine
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commits/develop?before=7f14b47cf225102b162d61c9cfa74186e1fe5e80+490
what commit has impact on this?

EDIT:
1.7.10 stable is also not fine, but
1.7.10.5 is fine

I can only find https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/ab4c6938002c3c583f4778579ba67dfc27ddb0e6 which has anything to to with it. Devs, please help :)

[v0lt]

Klaus1189
I do not quite understand what you're looking for.

[FNSCAR]

Any plan to add support for av1?

[Aleksoid1978]

Any plan to add support for av1?

Yes - when ffmpeg write normal decoder and encoder(for sample files).

[Klaus1189]

Klaus1189
I do not quite understand what you're looking for.

OK -> PM.

Seems more like a D3D11 little issue in madVR, D3D9 is fine, but it doesn't support HDR, maybe it's by design of D3D11, I ask madshi.

[v0lt]

Any plan to add support for av1?Do not hurry. The specification has not been approved yet. (https://aomedia.org/av1-bitstream-and-decoding-process-specification/)

[Felixjots]

I got the problem, that the sound crackles and the image is terrible (artifacts, wrong colors...) after I get into the mainmenu of the DVD.
I havent tested something else, but it occured with all game of thrones-DVDs. The problem is "fixed" after closing mpcbe and starting again. After 2-4 times doing that it will work.
Its a great player and thats the only thing that could be better at the moment!
Maybe you can fix this?

[Aleksoid1978]

Upload problem DVD - i check.

[tormento]

I have a strange behaviour with MPCBE. When I close it, the window doesn't disappear immediately.

The frame remains and so the frame of the windows below. After a time from half a second to 3-4 seconds it disappears.

I can accelerate the thing by clicking on desktop or another window.

Any idea?

[v0lt]

tormento
What version of the player do you use?
What external filters do you use?

[Felixjots]

Here I made a video about the issue (read description) https://youtu.be/lo-as1Kp52c
I hope this helps you and as a result of that it helps me!

[Aleksoid1978]

Here I made a video about the issue (read description) https://youtu.be/lo-as1Kp52c
I hope this helps you and as a result of that it helps me!

So ?? What's wrong ??

[Felixjots]

I cant get into the mainmenu and you heared the sound? Thats not how it should sound.
I can only get in the mainmenu after closing and opening until it is "fixed"

[Klaus1189]

@Felixjots
1.) update to latest nightly and see if it still happens -> https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last
2.) show us external filters list in options, like LAV Filters, ... -> disable/block all external filters -> does it still happen then?
3.) tried to reset settings and set up MPC-BE new?
4.) upload sample somewhere like Google drive

[Felixjots]

Newest Version, without LAV Filters and madVR: https://youtu.be/WRdUwohjEQg (Bad Video Quality, I know)

[tormento]

tormento
What version of the player do you use?
What external filters do you use?
Tried latest stable and latest nightly, with internal filters and Lav Filters.

Seems a rendering issue, not a filter one.

VLC, Media Player NET and others works perfectly.

[Klaus1189]

@tormento:
What renderer do you use?
Already tried to reset MPC-BE settings?

[v0lt]

Newest Version, without LAV Filters and madVR: https://youtu.be/WRdUwohjEQg (Bad Video Quality, I know)
Take a screenshot with a list of active filters. You have an external video decoder.

[Felixjots]

I activated all internal filters and deactivated all external filters. The video/audio renderer is standard. Nothing changed.

[v0lt]

@Felixjots
MPC-BE does not use hardware acceleration when playing a DVD. You have an external video decoder.

[Felixjots]

Well, after resetting the settings it seems to work now. (With external filters also). There is one ressetted setting that made the problem. I try to find out which one it is.

[tormento]

@tormento:
What renderer do you use?
Already tried to reset MPC-BE settings?
Settings reset and problem disappeared. It will be hard to understand what gave this issue.

[yonta]

Framestep seems to be broken in 3573. It works fine in 3571.

[v0lt]

@yonta
Thank you for the information. We have different issues with MPC Audio Renderer after r3572.

[Klaus1189]

I installed Win10 Pro 1803 on a separate SSD, and recognized lots of dropped frames with madVR at start (abot 3 seconds of the video is static at first frame.
I updated Radeon Driver to 18.4.1, but it is still the same thing. Anybody else having trouble?

I have my Win10 1709 installation on another SSD and put it already back in the computer and everything works fine. Newest version of madVR, LAV Filters nightly, except MPC-BE r3571.

Is that a AMD Driver or Win10 issue? Maybe anything else? Is Nvidia fine?

AND: MKV files don't get thumbnails anymore without thirdparty apps in 1803. Is that intended? 1709 is fine.

[tormento]

Ok, today problem of windows persistency, after having closed MPC-BE, appeared again and, even after resetting registry + ini file, now it stays.

Can't really understand reason. It's the only windows program to act like this.

[Klaus1189]

@tormento:
MPC-BE doesn‘t close immediately?

[v0lt]

@tormento
Does this issue always occur or when you close after playback?
Take a screenshot of the list of active filters (Play->Filters).

[Klaus1189]

I installed Win10 Pro 1803 on a separate SSD, and recognized lots of dropped frames with madVR at start (abot 3 seconds of the video is static at first frame.
I updated Radeon Driver to 18.4.1, but it is still the same thing. Anybody else having trouble?

I have my Win10 1709 installation on another SSD and put it already back in the computer and everything works fine. Newest version of madVR, LAV Filters nightly, except MPC-BE r3571.

Is that a AMD Driver or Win10 issue? Maybe anything else? Is Nvidia fine?

AND: MKV files don't get thumbnails anymore without thirdparty apps in 1803. Is that intended? 1709 is fine.

I found the setting in madVR which doesn't work in 1803 as in 1709 - "enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode"
In windowed mode, there is no problem.

[tormento]

@tormentoDoes this issue always occur or when you close after playback?Take a screenshot of the list of active filters (Play->Filters).
I think it's a issue with windows 10 rs5 multitab interface. Later I will try more.

[beter]

https://www.sendspace.com/file/yn9yfz

Almost all subtitles between 00:21 and 01:30 are shown later than they should be.

(using build 721)

VLC: normal
MPC-HC: normal
MPC-HC with Xysubfilter: normal
MPC-BE: has this problem
MPC-BE with XySubfilter: has this problem


This fixed bug from almost 3 years ago reappears in recent builds.
Basically most of the PGS subtitles are affected.

Some samples:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gan6ej
https://www.sendspace.com/file/2cv8ka
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ljzjqt

[Aleksoid1978]

beter
Options -> Internal Filters - "Buffer length" set to 10 sec.

[beter]

beter
Options -> Internal Filters - "Buffer length" set to 10 sec.

10 seconds is not long enough in some very extremely rare cases...
https://www.sendspace.com/file/f51kzk
https://www.sendspace.com/file/18xrfl

[Aleksoid1978]

it's not very important :)

[beter]

it's not very important :)

Then can the default value of the buffer length be higher? As not every user knows this workaround.(not necessary to be 10, but 3 is simply too low when watching video with these subtitles)

[tormento]

Ok. It's a multitab issue. If I add MPC-BE to the list of the apps that don't have to use multitab, I get that bug. If I remove it, it works ok.

If any developer has Windows 10 RS5, get a try.

[steakhutzeee]

Evening :)

Actually, can i open "index.bdmv" of a bluray to see the menu?

[v0lt]

Actually, can i open "index.bdmv" of a bluray to see the menu?
No. But you could check it yourself.

[steakhutzeee]

No. But you could check it yourself.Yes, I thoug i was doing something wrong. I'm new into the bluray world

[steakhutzeee]

I did a clean installation of lav filters, now, without adding the lav audio, video and splitter to external filter list inside mpc be, the lav is working fine on its own. How possibile?

I had to disable all internal filter to make this happen.

[v0lt]

Then can the default value of the buffer length be higher? As not every user knows this workaround.(not necessary to be 10, but 3 is simply too low when watching video with these subtitles)
A very large buffer creates a lot of problems. But I still made it possible to increase it to 15 seconds in r3595. I hope this is temporary and we will find another way to fix this. The default value (3 seconds) will not change.

[beter]

A very large buffer creates a lot of problems. But I still made it possible to increase it to 15 seconds in r3595. I hope this is temporary and we will find another way to fix this. The default value (3 seconds) will not change.

Thank you:)

[wushantao]

I installed Win10 Pro 1803 on a separate SSD, and recognized lots of dropped frames with madVR at start (abot 3 seconds of the video is static at first frame.
I updated Radeon Driver to 18.4.1, but it is still the same thing. Anybody else having trouble?

I have my Win10 1709 installation on another SSD and put it already back in the computer and everything works fine. Newest version of madVR, LAV Filters nightly, except MPC-BE r3571.

Is that a AMD Driver or Win10 issue? Maybe anything else? Is Nvidia fine?

AND: MKV files don't get thumbnails anymore without thirdparty apps in 1803. Is that intended? 1709 is fine.

same issues:eek:

win10 x64 1803、intel gpu

[hajj_3]

PLEASE bring back the "Full Screen" option from the right click menu on videos, i use that all the damn time to get out of fullscreen as i only need to right click then slightly move the cursor to click "Full Screen", build 1.5.2.3445 beta is the last major beta that still has this, newer betas have removed it.

[ryrynz]

"Full screen" Ctrl + Enter hasn't gone anywhere.. and probably never will. Using build 3593 and it's listed in the right click context menu.

[Aleksoid1978]

https://i.imgur.com/S5mUcHR.png

https://i.imgur.com/v6qODJz.png

[hajj_3]

just tried the latest 3601 build, still no "fullscreen" option:

https://i.imgur.com/42nXyEe.png

You can choose it by choosing view-fullscreen, but it is no longer directly on the main right click menu when in full screen mode. I want it either adding back on the right click main menu or give me an option in settings to add it to the main right click menu.

[Aleksoid1978]

Yes - it's under "View" submenu and can't be changed.

[beter]

just tried the latest 3601 build, still no "fullscreen" option:

You can choose it by choosing view-fullscreen, but it is no longer directly on the main right click menu when in full screen mode. I want it either adding back on the right click main menu or give me an option in settings to add it to the main right click menu.

May be you can try using the flybar to exit fullscreen if you want to exit fullscreen by mouse.

[hajj_3]

May be you can try using the flybar to exit fullscreen if you want to exit fullscreen by mouse.

That is what i have been doing but it is much less convenient :(

[Klaus1189]

PLEASE bring back the "Full Screen" option from the right click menu on videos, i use that all the damn time to get out of fullscreen as i only need to right click then slightly move the cursor to click "Full Screen", build 1.5.2.3445 beta is the last major beta that still has this, newer betas have removed it.

Just double click on videoframe to toggle between fullscreen and window mode. It's even faster.
You can also set up in options what mouse button you prefer for this.

No problem here :cool:

[sauma144]

Does MPC-BE support D3D11 decoding?
If yes, how to enable it?

[v0lt]

@sauma144
Yes. You only need Win8+, MPC-BE, LAV Video Decoder, madVR.

[sauma144]

OK, so MPC-BE has no built-in D3D11 decoder.

[bozek]

I've found a bug. If you're using default windows sound output in MPC-BE and then switch default sound device in windows mixer, say from primary monitor to secondary or vice versa while playing a video, then the player window will hang.

[Aleksoid1978]

Show filters list while playback. But i think bug not in MPC-BE, it's in system audio output.

[bozek]

I'm using all the internal filters.

And my bad, I think the bug is in MPC Audio Renderer. That's when the program hangs. When I select 'system default' I can switch audio outputs and MPC-BE does not hang.

[Aleksoid1978]

What version MPC-BE ??

[bozek]

1.5.1 x64 stable (Win7 Pro)

[v0lt]

1.5.1 x64 stable (Win7 Pro)
This version is not relevant for bug reports.

[Aleksoid1978]

Using latest SVN.

[ryrynz]

To be fair it's been over half a year since the last release, I still think you guys should do this a bit more often.

[bozek]

Agreed.

So what version do you want me to test it with? The beta or the nightly?

[Aleksoid1978]

Latest SVN version always here - https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last

[v0lt]

To be fair it's been over half a year since the last release
Wrong. The last beta release was released on February 28 this year.

We do not release on timeout. We make a release when we do it.

[ryrynz]

That too probably should've been updated by now too considering all the commits I've seen. Also, Betas don't get the same exposure as "stable" ones do.
I think it's ideal to aim for a few "stable" releases per year.

[Aleksoid1978]

We don't have "manager" who will be released project :)

[chros]

I agree with the devs, they can release hotfixes if it's necessary any time, but a release should be time independent but feature dependent. :)

[ryrynz]

There's not a lot of feature development though, the code commits are generally small, so releases aren't needing to be feature dependent at all.

[bozek]

Well, clearly they 'developed' something. The bug doesn't seem to be present in the latest SVN build. I've conducted a short test with several different files and didn't managed to get it hung once.

Time for another stable, I think :p

[rock]

I'm a bit surprised and happy that MPC-BE's DXVA2 Native works on a HEVC 10-bit sample on my AMD's APU but not with LAVFilters.
Anyway why don't put crossfeed feature on sound processing?
Looking for stable release as well here :)

[v0lt]

Anyway why don't put crossfeed feature on sound processing?
Users become impudent?
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.png.html)
:(

[Klaus1189]

Users become impudent?:(

sadly, but not me ;)

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3646

[rock]

Users become impudent?
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/38/b4/38b4acbd25d171a91043b5369da1bef9.png.html)
:(
I was talking about put it on Options>Audio>Sound processing. Yeah, it's part of MPC Audio Renderer, might be not good idea to put the option there.
If I sound impudent because of that, I'm really sorry.

[JarrettH]

Can perhaps the Subtitle menus be combined?

You have right click > Subtitles (to access subtitle options and to enable)

And right click > Navigate > Subtitle Language (to change the subtitle; you can also enable here too, which overlaps in functionality)

Doesn't make sense that these are separate. Why do I need to access a different subtitle menu to change the language?

[Aleksoid1978]

For subtitles use SUB button on toolbar, left/right mouse button.

[Mercury_22]

Bug: wrong black levels with MPC-BE's EVR-CP with some files. Sample (https://ufile.io/pwizl)

MPC-BE's internal video decoder outputs correct black levels with all EVR, EVR-CP and madVR
LAVVideo decoder outputs wrong black levels with EVR-CP, but correct black levels with EVR & madVR

LAVFilters-0.71.0-35 MPC-BE 1.5.2.3648 Windows 7 x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Bug: wrong black levels with MPC-BE's EVR-CP with some files. Sample (https://ufile.io/pwizl)

MPC-BE's internal video decoder outputs correct black levels with all EVR, EVR-CP and madVR
LAVVideo decoder outputs wrong black levels with EVR-CP, but correct black levels with EVR & madVR

LAVFilters-0.71.0-35 MPC-BE 1.5.2.3648 Windows 7 x64

If it's happened only with LAV Video Decoder - it's not MPC-BE fault :)

[Mercury_22]

If it's happened only with LAV Video Decoder - it's not MPC-BE fault :)

OK but then why LAV + EVR or Sync or madVR outputs the correct black level ?

[v0lt]

@Mercury_22
The driver settings may be affected. The "Output range" option may be affected. In any case, LAV Video Decoder does not report the nominal range.

[nevcairiel]

If the file does not expose a range, then none is reported. Limited Range should always be assumed to be the default by the renderer in such a case.

[v0lt]

@nevcairiel
Yes, but we got a more correct result if the decoder reports the nominal range. I do not remember the exact reason why we did this (maybe it was the effect of the settings of the video driver, it sometimes does not work as expected by the user).

I will not deny that the EVR-CP in this case may not work correctly. But the solution to this problem is not obvious, and other negative effects may appear.

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese (Traditional/Simplified) and Dutch
https://www.sendspace.com/file/b3wsda

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3647.

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r3650.

[ryrynz]

With the improvements made to the mpc audio renderer I've switched from sanear. Aleksoid, have you compared them at all? Look at the code or found any benefits with either over the other?

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/1.5.2%20%28build%203656%29%20beta/) with a digital signature was released. (SF.net)

[bozek]

When I was installing that version I received two error dialogs (with OK button only). 'Runtime Error' and 'Out of Space (.)' error

[Klaus1189]

When I was installing that version I received two error dialogs (with OK button only). 'Runtime Error' and 'Out of Space (.)' error

No problem on my computer with Windows 10 Pro 1709 64-bit and MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64 build from SF.net.
What OS do you use? Not only (for example) "Windows 10", please complete like "Windows 10 Pro 1803 64-bit"

Can you upload a screenshot on google drive or similar and post link here, do not attach the file here, other users won't see the pictures.

[v0lt]

@bozek
I can not confirm (MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64, Win7sp1).
Please make a screenshot of these errors.

[bozek]

I should've stated that the installation was completed so those error dialogs were probably irrelevant. During the second installation I only received one of them.

https://i.imgur.com/cAzM4JY.png

[Klaus1189]

1.) Do have another computer you can run MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta x64 build installer from SF.net?
2.) On the computer with this error dialog: Uninstall MPC-BE completely, then reboot and run installer again. -> what happens?
3.) Did you "install" (run installer) a previous version just like that or unzipped you the portable version of the older one?

[v0lt]

@bozek
Run the installer this way.
MPC-BE.1.5.2.3656.x64.exe /LOG=mpcbe_install.log
And upload somewhere the resulting log file.

[bozek]

https://pastebin.com/YeSLbzvK

When I tried to install the x86 on another computer I got the second error dialog as well.

https://i.imgur.com/YUJ3ces.png

[v0lt]

@bozek
I think the problem is related to the need to reboot due to the unavailability to remove MPCBEShellExt64.dll.

[bozek]

I don't think it is. Here is another attempt after uninstallation and reboot.

https://pastebin.com/FzgYHYKr

Like I said, the installation is completed everytime and the program works just fine so it's probably a wild goose chase.

[v0lt]

@bozek
Ok. Now I think the problem is in the PinToTaskbar function. It uses cscript.exe and this can be a problem.
Try to disable the "Pin to Taskbar" option during installation.

[beter]

MPC-BE freezes when playing this video with corrupted DVB subtitles.

In the sample below, the DVB subpicture at 00:00:10 is badly received due to signal problem, but MPC-HC 1.7.11 can show it without crashing. Meanwhile MPC-BE cannot show the subtitle, starts eating CPU resources and freezes/crashes after seeking.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/gzcfe4

The corrupted subpicture:
https://i.imgur.com/SuQojWP.png

[v0lt]

@beter
I fixed the freeze in r3672.

[bozek]

@bozek
Ok. Now I think the problem is in the PinToTaskbar function. It uses cscript.exe and this can be a problem.
Try to disable the "Pin to Taskbar" option during installation.

Nah, that's not it either. When I install, then on the page 'select additional tasks' I leave everything unchecked.

[v0lt]

bozek
Hmm. Please make a log with v1.5.2.3670 or newer - https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK

[bozek]

https://pastebin.com/UppNusj6

[v0lt]

Thank you.
I propose to continue in private messages.

[beter]

@beter
I fixed the freeze in r3672.

Thank you very much:)

[mclingo]

is anyone else finding MPC-BE taking ages to start playing movie, even on a fresh install, its even worse when playing a movie over and RDP connection, VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 movies and TV all start the movie in a timely fashion where MPC can sometimes take 30 seconds to start the movie on RDP, 10-20 locally on my PC.

Once i've played it one locally however it tend to then by much quicker, however RDP it takes ages every time.

I've ask this before and didnt get a really satisfactory answers, or nothing suggested made any difference, all settings are default.

anyone any ideas before i ditch BE?

[Klaus1189]

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?

[mclingo]

Everything is fine here on three computers, one with i7 and Intel HD, one with i7 4930k with AMD Radeon and one with an Nvidia card. Let's find out whats wrong:
1.) What OS do you use? What version? Just like 1709 or 1803 of Windows 10.
2.) What exact version of MPC-BE do you use? latest Nightly, latest beta, latest stable, ...
3.) Do you use any external stuff like LAV Filters and madvr, ... What version of them?
4.) Do you use latest driver of your GPU?
5.) Do you have another computer for testing?
6.) Did you try to reboot the computer and only start MPC-BE, no other program. Does it then also take too much time to load files?


Thanks for your response.

win 10 creators

tried latest and several older versions, had this problem for months if not longer

i'm using stock settings, tried using external filters makes no difference

has been happening for ages, through various different GPU drivers versions.

Tried all sorts, fresh boot only loading BE has same issues, nothing seems to resolve this.

I'm not really sure where to start to be honest, a rebuild is out of the question though, it would take me days to do that.

Was hoping someone would know what this was with it just being BE and no other player,

[Klaus1189]

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

[mclingo]

Hi,
I have further qestions, then maybe I, but for sure others can help:
1.) Windows 10 1703 and 1709 both are creators, which one?
2.) What exact GPU chip?
3.) What external filters did you try? precise like LAV Filters 0.71.0-35
4.) Not a complete rebuild needed, only another computer to test with, maybe at a friend, sister, brother, ... No high end needed.
5.) Be sure to distinguish between directshow based players like MPC-BE and players like VLC media player, I don't know how these are colled, but these are not directshow based ;-), they use their own built in codecs and can't load external ones.

Hi, 1709, ATI RX 460. I tried all four LAV filters, aud/vid/spliters. Having had this for a long time i've also gone through several different LAV filter versions, non have made any difference.

i'll have a look on my audio DAW machine, see if I can reproduce it there.

cheers

[Klaus1189]

@v0lt:
Are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere already to check the length of string so it fits?
I am updating translation file based on r3681, but I think Surround level is missing in translation file r3681, I only can find Center level.

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
I did not translate "Surround level", because it was not done and there is no clarity for what it might be needed.

[Klaus1189]

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3684

[v0lt]

OK, I see, are the changes I made in r3647 visible in GUI somewhere?
Play->Filters->MPC Audio Renderer->Properties->Status

German translation was updated in r3386, 3687.

[galocza]

hi,

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

thank you,
g

[ryrynz]

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

[galocza]

I think you'll find you're overtaxing your CPU, check task manager and see. If so, it's time for an upgrade or just avoid HEVC.

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

[ryrynz]

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Not gonna happen enough to make a difference. Avoid or upgrade are your only real two options.

[lvqcl]

thanks for your reply, i KNOW im overtaxing the cpu, thats why i asked for hints to maybe lessen the burden 8)

Do you use 32-bit or 64-bit player? IIRC 64-bit is noticeably faster in HEVC decoding.

[Klaus1189]

I think it is worth to try external lav filters, maybe these require less decoding power, but don't expect miracles since AMD E2-1800 is six year old low end.

[Midzuki]

ive used mpc-be on my desktop pc for years but on vacation i tried to play some 720p hevc videos with it on my netbook and they stuttered (which is ok) and audio got delayed (which is not). its not a genius:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E2-1800.html

i also tried almost a dozen players, still mpc was the best so i thought if i had to play around with settings i rather do it with the player i know.
could you please recommend me some (resource-wise) minimal settings for mpc-be? or should i give it up?

You may try the 32-bit Strongene Lentoid decoder, OR a 64-bit edition of MPlayer (without a fancy GUI, because GUIs are resource hogs). If even then you don't get smooth playback of 720p HEVC on your netbook, then give up and get a better machine.

[galocza]

thank you all for your responses, i appreciate and will try them.
g

[stefanelli73]

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi, I have noticed for some time a problem of playing my blu ray/uhd 1: 1 files, in the sense that if I go back and forth with a film the image freezes and jumps, while the audio continues to go normally, so I'm forced to stop the film and play it, but this does not happen with mkv....some solution?

Upload file(s) for test.

[73ChargerFan]

is anyone else finding MPC-BE taking ages to start playing movie, even on a fresh install, its even worse when playing a movie over and RDP connection, VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 movies and TV all start the movie in a timely fashion where MPC can sometimes take 30 seconds to start the movie on RDP, 10-20 locally on my PC.

Once i've played it one locally however it tend to then by much quicker, however RDP it takes ages every time.

I've ask this before and didnt get a really satisfactory answers, or nothing suggested made any difference, all settings are default.

anyone any ideas before i ditch BE?

I have a similar issue. Audio plays immediately, video freezes maybe 1 second in, then whole UI freezes for about 15-30 seconds. Only on a fresh start of the player, not for subsequent videos. If I close the app, it may or not delay on restart. Same for local files, DVDs, and mkv files over the local network.

All latest updates: Windows 10 x64 pro, MPC-BE x64 (only changes to settings are to stream AC3 & DTS, and elevate process priority), AMD Pheonom II (never taxed when watching videos), nvidia 750gts, 8 gb ram. I use portable 7z version only, but I think the ini is kept in the registry because I never opted to have it stored in the file system.

Has been like this for about a year; I'm only mentioning it now because someone else has.

Is there a trace or debug w/ logging version I can try? I don't program anymore so I don't have a compiler.

[Magik Mark]

Guys,

Where can I get instructions on using LAV filter as an External Filter?

[huhn]

install lav.
add all 4 lavfilter filter as external filter with prefer: done.
disable all internal filter and have only lavfilter installed as a dshowfilter: done.

[Magik Mark]

Thanks huhn.

Is there a proper sequence? Which comes first, second, third & forth? Lav video, lav audio, lav splitter lav splitter source. Is this correct?

[huhn]

doesn't matter.

[v0lt]

install lav.
add all 4 lavfilter filter as external filter with prefer: done.
disable all internal filter and have only lavfilter installed as a dshowfilter: done.
There is no need to do the third point if the second is done.

[huhn]

yes just to different ways to get the same result.

[Klaus1189]

install lav.
add all 4 lavfilter filter as external filter with prefer: done.
disable all internal filter and have only lavfilter installed as a dshowfilter: done.

There is no need to do the third point if the second is done.

v0lt is right. If you don't disable the internal ones and imagine you have a special kind of file, that LAV Filters doesn't support, then the internal filters are used to play them.
yes just to different ways to get the same result.

not 100% same result, because you have alternative filters which can do the job.

[huhn]

an argument about interpreting of or or and. you only need step 2 or 3 that'S you are done of each of them.

mpc be will always fall-back to internal decoder if nothing else is found.

[Gravitator]

How to make the player save the mode "Stretch to the screen size"?

[v0lt]

@Gravitator
View->Options->Video->Framing->Default mode

[Gravitator]

@Gravitator
View->Options->Video->Framing->Default mode
Спасибо. :)

I propose to add in the player the mode of frame-by-frame comparison of several video files?

[v0lt]

Спасибо. :)

I propose to add in the player the mode of frame-by-frame comparison of several video files?
It's nice to hear thanks in Russian. But we will not do anything like that. I advise you to compare video files using AviSynth.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3710

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese Traditional/Simplified and Dutch.
I have also included the Japanese one, as Socket774 is inactive for a year. If it is better leaving it to Socket774, just ignore the Japanese file.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/tsofl9

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3713.

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r3718.

[Gravitator]

Why do not we see the software (the lack of a hardware) HEVC-10bit decoder via a video card? On the CPU this question is not worth ...

[Klaus1189]

Why do not we see the software (the lack of a hardware) HEVC-10bit decoder via a video card? On the CPU this question is not worth ...

What?

[foxyshadis]

Why do not we see the software (the lack of a hardware) HEVC-10bit decoder via a video card? On the CPU this question is not worth ...

Because video decoding is inherently serial, and what threading it can achieve is largely limited to the 6-8 threads that today's CPUs provide. GPUs with hardware decoding don't use CL, they have specialized decoding blocks. OpenCL and CUDA decoding has been attempted, but it's never been particularly efficient compared to CPU or GPU decoding.

[beter]

Something related to the PGS subtitle bug I mentioned last month.

After rev3600 the subpictures with long duration are displayed normally, but this time some subpictures with short duration are displayed too long, and sometimes affected the subpicture after them.

Comparison video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pWoRtFle7ScAYRAyHRnpF1HN9lMeJvq5/view
(At 00:06, 00:13, 00:26, 00:32, 00:40)
The video used: https://www.sendspace.com/file/c6254p

[Aleksoid1978]

Something related to the PGS subtitle bug I mentioned last month.

After rev3600 the subpictures with long duration are displayed normally, but this time some subpictures with short duration are displayed too long, and sometimes affected the subpicture after them.

Comparison video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pWoRtFle7ScAYRAyHRnpF1HN9lMeJvq5/view
(At 00:06, 00:13, 00:26, 00:32, 00:40)
The video used: https://www.sendspace.com/file/c6254p

I don't understand what's wrong. How did you determine that the duration is wrong ??
PGS subtitles don't have start/end timestamp. Only start(when found PRESENTATION SEGMENT) - end showing until next PRESENTATION SEGMENT is found.

[beter]

Are you sure that in MPC-HC is right ?? :)

Probably yes, If you seek to 1 second before that subpicture and play, then it will be displayed as the same way as MPC-HC.

Also, the playback will be a little bit difference if the buffer value is changed (For example if the value is changed from 3 to 10, then the subpictures at 00:06 and 00:32 will become shorter)

[Aleksoid1978]

Tomorrow i will give you time stamp for PGS sub from this file.

[beter]

I don't understand what's wrong. How did you determine that the duration is wrong ??
PGS subtitles don't have start/end timestamp. Only start(when found PRESENTATION SEGMENT) - end showing until next PRESENTATION SEGMENT is found.

May be I give you an example
I am not good at this kind of things, maybe I am wrong, but this picture should be showing the starting time of the third subpicture
https://i.imgur.com/iLxiqiB.png

0008A0DE->565470(/90)->6283->00:00:06.283

However, MPC-BE is still showing the second one at 00:07
https://i.imgur.com/60ubEji.png

It means that the third one is not shown on time and the second one is shown too long.

If I misread the Hex in the SUP, please tell me.

[beter]

(Oh, It only happens when the PGS is inside a MKV. If it is an external SUP, then no problem at all.)

[Aleksoid1978]

Hmm. for me it's render sub normal.
https://i.imgur.com/N5oyapK.png

[beter]

Hmm. for me it's render sub normal.

Ok, I realised the problem.

I set the "Sub pictures to buffer" under subtitle-rendering to a "too high value"......And some buffered PGS subpictures inside a container are likely shown for for example at least 40 frames(in case of 24fps video, 1.67 seconds) if the "Sub pictures to buffer" is set to 40...

[groen]

How can I disable MPC audio decoder. Even though I have LAV filters enabled as preferred on the external filters list, mpc audio decoder over rides LAV audio. I can't find mpc audio decoder on the list of filters to block it either.

Strange how it only happened all of a sudden another issue, the internal audio decoder sets the gain to +10db every time I open a file. I have to click the default button to reduce it down because it is all greyed out on the sound processing page. I'd much rather just disable it completely.

[huhn]

did you enable bitstreaming in lavfilter?

[groen]

Yes I enabled bitstreaming in lav filters. I have been using mpc-be and lav filters and bitstreaming for many years.

Problem with the setting not saving was permissions on the settings.ini in program files. That is now fixed but the mpc audio decoder still wins the merit. Can I disable that?

edit: OK I think I see what the issue is, the audio is e-ac-3 and I don't think lav filters supports that.

[Klaus1189]

Yes I enabled bitstreaming in lav filters. I have been using mpc-be and lav filters and bitstreaming for many years.

Problem with the setting not saving was permissions on the settings.ini in program files. That is now fixed but the mpc audio decoder still wins the merit. Can I disable that?

edit: OK I think I see what the issue is, the audio is e-ac-3 and I don't think lav filters supports that.

What entries do you have in external Filters, like LAV Audio Decoder, ...?

LAV latest nightly screenshot (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-RL8E4WjEcfK-BBTRIEFceTKg2K7zpCW/view?usp=sharing): E-AC3 bitstreaming option. Is that what you need?

[v0lt]

Support for E-AC3 (DD+) has been improved in r3599, r3604, r3619. Please use nightly builds.

[groen]

Great thanks, I will try the nightly builds.

All of a sudden e-ac-3 becoming popular and thanks for adding support and all you do.

[Yanak]

Hello,

The player max resolution for "Youtube" options is 2160p.
Youtube have also 5k and 8k, the 5k especially is what interest me, it's named 2880p in the quality options settings, but youtube in 5k can delivers videos of 5120x2700 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRt4Duf7GoI), 5280x2972, 5568x3132 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkPEVHchKw8), 5376x3024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZClGt1xS1A) or even 6144x3160 resolutions according on the different examples i tested looking at the "advanced informations" options, seems like it throws under 2880p option everything between 4k and 8k...

I would just like to know if it is possible to have ( at least ) the 2880p option and not be limited to the 2160p as maximum please.

Thank you very much.

[Aleksoid1978]

Hello,

The player max resolution for "Youtube" options is 2160p.
Youtube have also 5k and 8k, the 5k especially is what interest me, it's named 2880p in the quality options settings, but youtube in 5k can delivers videos of 5120x2700 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRt4Duf7GoI), 5280x2972, 5568x3132 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkPEVHchKw8), 5376x3024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZClGt1xS1A) or even 6144x3160 resolutions according on the different examples i tested looking at the "advanced informations" options, seems like it throws under 2880p option everything between 4k and 8k...

I would just like to know if it is possible to have ( at least ) the 2880p option and not be limited to the 2160p as maximum please.

Thank you very much.

Done.

[lvqcl]

Youtube-dl reports that they have stream with format=272 and it's 2880p.

But there are videos where this stream has other resolution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLprVF6d7Ug - 4320p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1La4QzGeaaQ - 4320p60

So format 272 can be 2880p or 4320p

[Aleksoid1978]

I know about 272 format.

[Yanak]

Done.

Thank you very much for this :)

[rock]

https://i.imgur.com/9o2dBmk.png
all internal disabled
actual using avcodec but OSD and toolbar indicator show that it uses GPU/DXVA2 Native

[Aleksoid1978]

https://i.imgur.com/9o2dBmk.png
all internal disabled
actual using avcodec but OSD and toolbar indicator show that it uses GPU/DXVA2 Native

It's always happened or sometimes ? I can't reproduce, if in software - don't show GPU/DXVA2 indicator.

[P.J]

This video has no sound if using the default splitter but no problem with LAV splitter source:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TFbFwYiXhrDbVcFMt1hgZSwuAHNLhfG7

[Aleksoid1978]

This video has no sound if using the default splitter but no problem with LAV splitter source:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TFbFwYiXhrDbVcFMt1hgZSwuAHNLhfG7

Thanks, i look what's wrong.

P.S. Fixed.

[giulianoprs]

hello to all, an information, I would like to install mpc-be, better version 32 or 64? I have w10 pro, thank you all.

[ryrynz]

Use 64-bit.

[giulianoprs]

I have a problem, I installed mpc-be + lavfilter + madvr and up to here everything ok, but I have a problem with subtitles, I installed xysubfilter but as per procedure (run as administrator) but later in the mpc properties I can not find xysubfilter and so I do not see the subtitles, what am I wrong?

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3750

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thank you. But I'm not sure of the correctness of the term "Advanced", it could be more correctly called "Extra". In this sub-menu commands are collected to not clutter the list of subtitles.

[Klaus1189]

OK, the translation of "Advanced" matches but I think I need to correct the three new entries called
Audio
Untertitel
Videospur
What lines are the entries called in language txt file?

I personally would change the order to:
Videospur
Audiospur
Untertitelspur

Files are muxed that way, too. What do you think?

[Klaus1189]

Found it, I think, three times in txt file
updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing)
I'm not sure anymore about the order. Mostly the file has one videostream, so first Audio and second Subtitle is quite fine.

[v0lt]

The track of the video almost never changes, and many people change audio tracks and subtitles through the context menu (yes there are people who do not use the AUD and SUB buttons). Therefore, the video track is selected after audio and subtitles (in the player menu, not the splitter), otherwise it will only interfere. This is done in MPC-HC and I think it's logical.

There are two lines for the translation of the video track: IDS_MENU_VIDEO_STREAM and IDS_MENU_VIDEO_ANGLE.

German translation updated in r3753.

[Klaus1189]

:thanks:

[P.J]

Thanks, i look what's wrong.

P.S. Fixed.

:thanks:

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3760 - Device buffer :)

[Klaus1189]

I have a problem, I installed mpc-be + lavfilter + madvr and up to here everything ok, but I have a problem with subtitles, I installed xysubfilter but as per procedure (run as administrator) but later in the mpc properties I can not find xysubfilter and so I do not see the subtitles, what am I wrong?

Do you still need help?

[rock]

It's always happened or sometimes ? I can't reproduce, if in software - don't show GPU/DXVA2 indicator.
Looks like only happen when I tried to play HEVC 10bit with DXVA2 Native as selected H/W decoder. I think player doesn't notice that it was fallback to S/W decoding. Tried with other decoder, D3D11, it showed correctly fallback to S/W decoding.

[giulianoprs]

No Klaus,thank !!!

[beter]

Update for translation

https://www.sendspace.com/file/jog7dl

[v0lt]

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r3769.

[iSeries]

tyrindor - new test build https://yadi.sk/d/T4RFgrPV3UEyrx

Test on AC3/TrueHD/DTS-HD. For me only drop on AC3/DTS-HD in 5-10m. The problem has not yet been clarified.

Hi,

I've also been having this problem with drops during bitstreaming (exactly the same as tyrindor), do the latest builds resolve this issue?

[Aleksoid1978]

Latest SVN build fixed drop with bitstreaming.

[iSeries]

Latest SVN build fixed drop with bitstreaming.

Perfect, thanks - is that the latest build from

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc...vn%20trunk%29/ (24th May)

or

https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last (25th June)

[Aleksoid1978]

Last SVN - on yadi.sk

[iSeries]

Last SVN - on yadi.sk

Wonderful, thank you so much. I notice a small difference in this version, in that the audio buffer can be set - default, 50ms, or 100ms. It is set at 50ms, is that the correct setting, or should it be 'default' or 100ms? What does this setting do? Thanks again.

[v0lt]

@iSeries
If there are no problems, then do not change anything (standard value is 50 ms).

[mclingo]

Hi, is there any way to turn the top menu bar black without skinning windows 10?, I have an oled TV and i'm trying to minimise bright areas on menus and stuff. I know I can remove this but I prefer the menu bar to be there permanently.

[Aleksoid1978]

mclingo
Black menu not implement yet, sorry.

[Zinglar]

After reinstalling Windows and all my other programs on Windows 10 Pro (64-bit), MPC-BE's audio level is too low. I tried changing some setting in Audio options, but with no success. Is there a setting that I could adjust to fix this?

[Klaus1189]

I need more information:
1.) Everytime I reinstall windows, the volume in the taskbar is set to 67. Did you already put that to 100? -> In case of powered external speakers or AVR with passive speakers. If built in speakers in Notebook, the speaker will be very loud ;-)
2.) How are the speakers connected? External speakers with analog 3,5 mm plug or digital like SPDIF Toslink, ... maybe AVR with passive speakers OR built in speakers in Notebook or built in speakers in monitor and connected with HDMI?
3.) Is only MPC-BE audio level too low or also other players you may have, don't install any other just for testing, just try built in WMP. What audio renderer/settings do you use?

[v0lt]

@Zinglar
Stereo tracks or 5.1?

After reinstalling Windows and all my other programs on Windows 10 Pro (64-bit), MPC-BE's audio level is too low.
I do not understand what you mean. All programs or only MPC-BE have this problem?
If the first, then you have a problem not related to the player.

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/1.5.2%20%28build%203788%29%20beta/) with a digital signature.

[EncodedMango]

After reinstalling Windows and all my other programs on Windows 10 Pro (64-bit), MPC-BE's audio level is too low. I tried changing some setting in Audio options, but with no success. Is there a setting that I could adjust to fix this?
Maybe you had Loudness Equalisation ON(Start-->Sound-->Properties of your input device-->Enhancements) before and upon reinstall that got unchecked.

[Zinglar]

Hi, sorry for being late in replying. After reinstalling Windows I set the volume in the taskbar to 50 which is what I had before the reinstallation. The speakers are external with 3.5 mm plug connections. I tried to play a video on another software and the audio was much higher there. Anyway, before reinstalling Windows the audio level with MPc-BE was pretty good.
@EncodedMango, I tried the Loudness Equalisation and there is a big improvement.

Thanks everyone for your assistance!

[alex1399]

Timestamps are not accurate as shown in ctrl + G.
I read presentation times of both audio and video stream in packet by ffprobe. Some video stream have a 100 millisecond offset but mpc-be always shows time zero for the first frame.

[Aleksoid1978]

Timestamps are not accurate as shown in ctrl + G.
I read presentation times of both audio and video stream in packet by ffprobe. Some video stream have a 100 millisecond offset but mpc-be always shows time zero for the first frame.

Upload sample.

[Siso]

My brother has a problem with mpc-be, the keys are working before going in fullscreen, after that he has to click with the mouse, so they can start working again. Video renderer is madvr, tried with any other renderer same problem :(

[Klaus1189]

Tried to reset settings and set up new?

[cruzer]

Hi,
I have been using the MPC-BE v1.5.2 (build 3656) on my laptop without any issues. I have recently updated to the latest version and the laptop crashes with a BSOD. I’d like to know what has been majorly changed in the new visions to cause my laptop to crash.

BSOD crash info:
Caused by driver--dxgkrnl.sys (DirectX Graphics Kernel)

System specs:
Windows 10_x64
Core i5-2540M
Intel HD Graphics 3000--latest drivers available for win10x64
directx_Jun2010_redist--installed

I have tried few new Nightly Builds without a success. It seems like something has changed in the new builds which is specific to my laptop. Please help me to troubleshoot this. Thank you guys!

[Klaus1189]

Did you also update the intel hd driver?

[cruzer]

I did not update the intel hd driver as the driver I have is the latest. Thanks.

[Klaus1189]

Do you use any external filters like madvr or lav filters? If so, did you update any of them in the meantime.

Worth a try to reset settings and set it up new.

I have also a little Intel HD based PC here. I test my hd4600 tomorrow, already late here in bavaria.

[cruzer]

I don't use any filters. I run pure MPC-BE from a folder as I usually do for years.
Have a good night. Thanks.

[Aleksoid1978]

I don't use any filters. I run pure MPC-BE from a folder as I usually do for years.
Have a good night. Thanks.

Fixed at r3791.

[Klaus1189]

@cruzer: you have to use a new nightly r3791:
https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK/
https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last

The devs are the best

[Siso]

Tried to reset settings and set up new?

Same thing, they don't work in fullscreen...

[Klaus1189]

1.) What version do use?
2.) Try to use latest nightly.
3.) Do you use external filters? LAV Filters, ...

[Klaus1189]

The more I think about it, I believe it is a focus issue because you have to click one time with the mouse then the keys are working again:
4.) What is selected in right click -> VIEW -> On Top -> ??
5.) What OS?
6.) Is any other program also running when starting MPC-BE?
7.) Does this focus issue also apeear, when computer is started fresh and no other program was executed until MPC-BE is started in fullscreen?

[Siso]

1.) What version do use?
2.) Try to use latest nightly.
3.) Do you use external filters? LAV Filters, ...

Tried with older versions of mpc-be, and tried with 1.5.2 3788.
External filters used are: lav splitter, lav video decoder and lav audio decoder.

[Siso]

The more I think about it, I believe it is a focus issue because you have to click one time with the mouse then the keys are working again:
4.) What is selected in right click -> VIEW -> On Top -> ??
5.) What OS?
6.) Is any other program also running when starting MPC-BE?
7.) Does this focus issue also apeear, when computer is started fresh and no other program was executed until MPC-BE is started in fullscreen?

I4. Tried "Never" and "Always" - same result;
5. Windows 7 Ultimate x64;
6. The programs running are: Dropbox client, Avast and DisplayCAL for profile management. DiplayCAL is disabled when I run videos (this is my configuration);
7. The focus issue always appears, I tried turning off avast and other programs, but the result is the same.

[Klaus1189]

What fullscreen mode are you using? There is the "normal" mode and exlusive mode available.

If you are using automatic refresh rate changer, you can press Ctrl + Enter for this. Or you leave the refresh rate at standard mode by pressing Alt + Enter.

Does it also occur when you reset settings to default and leave the settings untouched and go to fullscreen mode?

[Siso]

What fullscreen mode are you using? There is the "normal" mode and exlusive mode available.

If you are using automatic refresh rate changer, you can press Ctrl + Enter for this. Or you leave the refresh rate at standard mode by pressing Alt + Enter.

Does it also occur when you reset settings to default and leave the settings untouched and go to fullscreen mode?

The normal fullscreen mode, after reset the problem is still there, no refresh rate changer is used.

[Klaus1189]

For comparison can you try MPC-HC and an very old MPC-BE version?

[Siso]

For comparison can you try MPC-HC and an very old MPC-BE version?

I will try with mpc-hc, and I tried a version of mpc-be 3679, with mpc-be the problem persist.

[Aleksoid1978]

My brother has a problem with mpc-be, the keys are working before going in fullscreen, after that he has to click with the mouse, so they can start working again. Video renderer is madvr, tried with any other renderer same problem :(

Something local problem - when going in fullscreen losing focus, although it should not. You are single user that have this problem.

[v0lt]

My brother has a problem with mpc-be, the keys are working before going in fullscreen, after that he has to click with the mouse, so they can start working again. Video renderer is madvr, tried with any other renderer same problem :(
Have you tried switching to full screen with Alt+Enter?

[Siso]

Have you tried switching to full screen with Alt+Enter?

It works fine with mpc-hc, the problem is with mpc-be only.

[v0lt]

It works fine with mpc-hc, the problem is with mpc-be only.
I know about switching problems with a double click, but I first hear about problems with Alt+Enter.

[Siso]

I know about switching problems with a double click, but I first hear about problems with Alt+Enter.

I'm surprised too, I have no idea how that happened.

[cruzer]

Fixed at r3791.

@Klaus1189 and Aleksoid1978:
The r3791 works fine, no issues. Thank you guys!

[Matching_Mole]

Something local problem - when going in fullscreen losing focus, although it should not. You are single user that have this problem.

Just to say, I have the same issue than Siso. The weirdest part is I don't have this issue with DVD but with bluray files quite frequently (but not all the time).

I'm using the x86 MPC-BE version with Lav Filters+Reclock+Madvr. I'm using several version of MPC-BE for several months (six or seven month) and the problem was always here. I don't know before.

[Klaus1189]

Is this really a issue in MPC-BE?
Maybe it's related to the OS or any program running on the pc of the two guys?
I had never any issue on any pc here at home, it doesn't matter AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics with an AMD/Intel CPU. Had every possible combination and used both Windows 7 and 10.

[Siso]

Is this really a issue in MPC-BE?
Maybe it's related to the OS or any program running on the pc of the two guys?
I had never any issue on any pc here at home, it doesn't matter AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics with an AMD/Intel CPU. Had every possible combination and used both Windows 7 and 10.

In mpc-hc everything is fine, even in vlc. The problem is only iwth mpc-be.

[chros]

Quick question: can we seek in YouTube clips? (using 1.5.2 beta (I don't remember the build number))
Yesterday I wanted to do so and I couldn't. Thanks!

[chros]

Sorry for the false alarm: it was LAV splitter that buffered the data and that's why seeking didn't work. All is good with the internal splitters.

[mogli]

Whenever I update my soundcard drivers the MPC audio renderer is resetted to the primary audio device although I use a different one with MPC-BE.

Why is this happening? No other software I have does this and the names of the audio devices stay the same all the time anyhow.

[Klaus1189]

1.) What audio chipset and driver?
2.) What OS? Complete, like Win 7 SP1 64-bit or Win 10 18.03 64-bit
3.) What device do you use normally and what device for MPC-BE?
4.) Do you have your device you use for MPC-BE selected as default in audio settings of OS?

[Grimsdyke]

I have the same problem as Mogli but I always thought I am the only one so I never posted this. (Win10 64bit on a AsRock J4205-ITX)

[Klaus1189]

So you also have two different audio devices connected to you pc, where the first is set as default device, but the second one is used in MPC-BE?

[Grimsdyke]

Dual-audio-out in MPC-BE activated and one output is HDMI (TV) and the other is Analog-7.1 (Receiver).
After driver update BE looses the HDMI device and falls back to default and although the TV is set to default in the OS settings there is NO sound !!! So I always have to renew this setting in BE.
This happens also sometimes when I change the refresh rate of the TV.
No big issue but still somewhat annoying.

[Klaus1189]

Why not simply one HDMI connection from pc to AVR and then HDMI to TV?

[v0lt]

I do not recommend updating the drivers when the player is running.
I recommend using DirectSound for dual audio output (MPC Audio Renderer may not work correctly in this mode).

[mogli]

I do not recommend updating the drivers when the player is running.The player isn't running while updating. That's the point: How does MPC-BE even know the driver version changed and why does it trigger a device change in such a situation?

[huhn]

when updating GPU driver the sound device is removed and added after installing again and it is not unusual that the "new" audio device is set as default by windows or GPU driver installer.

so mpc-BE may not see it as the same device after updating

[v0lt]

@mogli
1. Do you have a problem with MPC Audio Renderer only? Does DirectSound work fine?
2. What version of MPC-BE?
3. Which version of Windows?

[Aleksoid1978]

Dual-audio-out in MPC-BE activated and one output is HDMI (TV) and the other is Analog-7.1 (Receiver).
After driver update BE looses the HDMI device and falls back to default and although the TV is set to default in the OS settings there is NO sound !!! So I always have to renew this setting in BE.
This happens also sometimes when I change the refresh rate of the TV.
No big issue but still somewhat annoying.

With HDMI output sound is "not easy" - windows can change device guid in system after reboot. It also depends on what to run first - the computer or the receiver. I use HDMI output and suffer from it sometimes.

[Aleksoid1978]

Whenever I update my soundcard drivers the MPC audio renderer is resetted to the primary audio device although I use a different one with MPC-BE.

Why is this happening? No other software I have does this and the names of the audio devices stay the same all the time anyhow.

What WASAPI mode use - Exclusive or Shared ?
Do you enable "Exclusive mode" in audio settings in system.

[Zero3K]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

Can you give me more details - how i can run, parameters and so ...
I never using StreamBuffRe and nothing don't know about it software.

[Klaus1189]

I just recognized that MPC-BE.1.5.2.3818.x64.7z from https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.2.3818 is always a 0 Byte file.
But MPC-BE.x64.7z from https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last is fine. Very strange.

[v0lt]

Klaus1189
Maybe the "disk space" is over.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE has an issue with streams that are being piped by StreamBuffRe (http://www.streambuffre.com). Viewing one or more streams at a time eventually results in the playback freezing on a frame and eventually going black. Looking at the Statistics shows that the buffer is at 0 KB for all values. According to the developer of StreamBuffRe, it is being caused because MPC-BE doesn't handle buffer underruns that well.

It's StreamBuffRe very strange.
I can connect, but can't read data from it.
Use InternetReadFileExW() for read data - it's always return 0.
So - when using only internal filters, for data read using system source filter - File Source(URL).

P.S. it's don't accept connection if User-agent contains space or -. It's very strange limitation.

[Matching_Mole]

Is this really a issue in MPC-BE?
Maybe it's related to the OS or any program running on the pc of the two guys?
I had never any issue on any pc here at home, it doesn't matter AMD/Nvidia/Intel graphics with an AMD/Intel CPU. Had every possible combination and used both Windows 7 and 10.

I speak for myself (I don't know for Siso) but I think the issue is related to the way I run MPC-BE.

For specific needs, I used a small program (in C++ in Qt) I written to select and analyse the files i want to play (mkv, DVD or Bluray), change some options (screen resolution, Lav and Reclock option,...) and run MPC-BE using a specific Qt procedure (QProcess::startDetached). This mean I don't use MPC-BE directly to select file at any stage. This is why, I agree with one previous comment that it seems the issue is related to some kind of "lost" focus.

So, as I use MPC-BE differently than most of the user, this does not mean that the issue is specific to me but more than it is present for all but in such specific condition that other does not experience it.

The only thing is I use this program for a long time now, and I did not have the issue with very old MPC-BE version (3 or 4 years ago) or recent MPC-HC version.

[Zero3K]

Can you give me more details - how i can run, parameters and so ...
I never using StreamBuffRe and nothing don't know about it software.

You type/copy+paste a stream's URL into the URL box of its main window and press enter and then double click it in order for it to open in the default player (holding Shift when double clicking results in it loading the stream in a new instance of the player). I have set the "Path to mpc executable" in the MPC Player section of its Settings to the location of MPC-BE x64.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3826

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3831

[Zero3K]

I am still running into issues with StreamBuffRe when using build 3825 of MPC-BE. It still stops showing the Twitch stream every now and then even though it didn't disconnect according to StreamBuffRe. Also, the stream will randomly be paused as soon as its being viewed.

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thank you. Updated in r3837.

[Anima123]

There's no updated nightly builds anymore since 3842, is it a problem after upgrade gcc to 8.20?

[ryrynz]

Volt hasn't updated his builds recently, just use Aleksoid's (https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK) if you want 3850

[Zero3K]

I have another error with it and StreamBuffRe. When I use it as the player in StreamBuffRe and visit a URL such as https://www.twitch.tv/videos/292508749 (which is inputted into the URL bar of StreamBuffRe and then the resulting playlist entry is double clicked on), I get a "failed to render" error.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3856 :)

[P.J]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/117901

[beter]

Update translation Chinese (traditional/Simplified), Dutch and Japanese based on 3856.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/o3z0pl

[steakhutzeee]

Dumb question, here https://www.videohelp.com/software/MPC-BE i can see both Beta and Nightly. It's normal that after i install the Nightly, in MPC BE i see "1.5.2 (build 3858) beta"?

[Aleksoid1978]

Yes, it's normal.

[Aleksoid1978]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/117901

Upload problem DVD.

[v0lt]

Klaus1189, beter
Thank you!
Updated in r3859 and r3860.

[v0lt]

I see some artifacts if I play the VIDEO_TS folder directly but no problem if I play the vob files inside of the folder separately :confused:
IMHO, here are a few different methods of deinterlacing. Artifacts are present on both screenshots.

There's no problem with LAV at all but MPC video decoder.
You are confusing something, the "MPC Video Decoder" can not be used for the DVD-Video mode. It uses "MPC MPEG Video Decoder".

[mv]

Hi guys! Thanks for great work!

Is it possible to enable screensaver when video playback is paused in fullscreen mode with madVR as render?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi guys! Thanks for great work!

Is it possible to enable screensaver when video playback is paused in fullscreen mode with madVR as render?

MPC-BE don't prevent screensaver when playback is paused. Maybe it's madVR.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing). I had to fix one little issue.
@v0lt: I beg to check if this longer string fits the appearing window.

[Klaus1189]

It's perfect :)

[Manni]

Hi everyone,

Not sure if I should post this here or in LAV thread, so please tell me if it should be moved. I'm using MPC-BE with internal subs renderer, LAV and MadVR, as per sig below.

I have an issue with forced subtitles when playing UHD Blurays rips.

When I play an original disc in my UHD Bluray player (a Panasonic UB900), say Black Panther, the forced subtitles are automatically shown whenever characters are not speaking in English.

If I rip my original disc with AnyDVD HD as a folder, when I play it MPC-BE / LAV select the main movie correctly, but the forced subtitled aren't played. If I select the English track, then all the dialogue is subtitled, instead of only when the characters speak in English. Selecting "Forced Subtitles" in LAV Splitter doesn't help, as it never displays any subtitles.

If I rip my original disc with MakeMKV, I have the same behaviour if I don't select the "forced sub tracks" during ripping. If I do select the forced subs tracks, then I can get forced subs only, but I have to select the correct track manually, unless I remix the mkv with the forced sub track set as forced, which is what I'm doing at the moment. It's not always easy to identify the right track and it's of course time consuming.

Even if it takes a bit more space, I would also prefer to rip my discs as folders because mkvs don't save the Dolby Vision information. Folders is also easier/faster for TV Series and extras if using a player that supports BD Menus (such as a Dune player) for that type of content.

Is there a way to get the same result as what I get automatically with my standalone UHB Bluray player (only forced subs to be played when characters don't speak in English), without having to manually remux the mkv (and lose the Dolby Vision info)?

Thanks!

[nevcairiel]

Without the menu there is no way to know which track is supposed to be used for forced subtitles. If the default choice doesn't work, you have to pick the right track manually.

[Manni]

Without the menu there is no way to know which track is supposed to be used for forced subtitles. If the default choice doesn't work, you have to pick the right track manually.

Thanks. What I don't understand is how MakeMKV can extract the forced subs and create a special track with only forced subs (then doesn't mark that track as forced to make sure it plays by default, but that's a question for Mike).

If there is a way to create a forced subs only track without the menu (as makemkv doesn't have access to the menu either), how come it's not possible to play it by default?

That's what I don't understand.

[nevcairiel]

Its possible to create it, its just not possible to know which track to create it from. MakeMKV also doesn't tell you that, you have to manually select the track you want - or just process all the tracks, and MakeMKV deletes those afterwards that turned up empty.

[mv]

MPC-BE don't prevent screensaver when playback is paused. Maybe it's madVR.

False alarm - rechecked and it is actually Kodi who is preventing screensaver from starting!

Another, possible lame, question. Is it possible to disable/hide mouse cursor when player is starting in fullscreen mode? Each time video is started there is a short moment when mouse pointer blinks in the center of the screen.

[Manni]

Its possible to create it, its just not possible to know which track to create it from. MakeMKV also doesn't tell you that, you have to manually select the track you want - or just process all the tracks, and MakeMKV deletes those afterwards that turned up empty.

OK, I get it now, thanks. So remuxing after a first makemkv pass and setting the non empty one to forced is the only way to get the correct forced subs track to play.

[nevcairiel]

I think it should set force tracks to forced anyway? You can also set the stream flags during the initial rip with MakeMKV for every stream separately.
Also in MKV you don't need to remux to change stream flags, you can just edit those in the header.

[Klaus1189]

False alarm - rechecked and it is actually Kodi who is preventing screensaver from starting!

Another, possible lame, question. Is it possible to disable/hide mouse cursor when player is starting in fullscreen mode? Each time video is started there is a short moment when mouse pointer blinks in the center of the screen.

Assuming you are using Kodi and MPC-BE as external player, simply don‘t use/move mouse, only use keyboard, which will prevent mouse Pointer to show up. If you move mouse it will show up again. Just try it: 1.) Play a file. 2.) Press ALT + X and play another file without moving the mouse, then the pointer won‘t show up.

[mv]

@Klaus1189
I'm using only IR remote which emulates keyboard but sometimes I connect with remote desktop and after I do that cursor keeps appearing in the center of the screen for a short but noticeable moment. Taking into account that I don't reboot HTPC often and use sleep mode it means that cursor shows up almost always. Not a big problem of course but somehow annoying.

[Manni]

I think it should set force tracks to forced anyway? You can also set the stream flags during the initial rip with MakeMKV for every stream separately.
Also in MKV you don't need to remux to change stream flags, you can just edit those in the header.

Thanks a lot, I'll dig further into this. As far as I can see, makemkv doesn't set the forced tracks to forced, but it might be because I select more than one: I rip English and French audio (or whichever is the original soundtrack) and English and French sub tracks. Getting OT (my fault) so better leave it there. Thanks again.

[P.J]

Upload problem DVD.

Please check PM :)

IMHO, here are a few different methods of deinterlacing. Artifacts are present on both screenshots.

But I see only in the DVD mode.

[73ChargerFan]

I use MPC-BE on perhaps 6 computers in the house, and they run different versions.

With build 2755 in windowed mode, the "Full Screen" action appears on the left-click menu just below "Stop". Then in full screen mode, the same menu is called, with "Full Screen" in the same location, so I can switch between windowed and full screen easily.

Build 3788 in windowed mode, the "Full Screen" action is in the same location.
But in full screen mode, there's a new, different menu, and "Full Screen" is near the bottom of the View sub-menu. This is an HTPC, so there isn't a keyboard, and switching between windowed and full screen is more difficult.

Can it be moved back? Thanks.

[Klaus1189]

I use MPC-BE on perhaps 6 computers in the house, and they run different versions.

With build 2755 in windowed mode, the "Full Screen" action appears on the left-click menu just below "Stop". Then in full screen mode, the same menu is called, with "Full Screen" in the same location, so I can switch between windowed and full screen easily.

Build 3788 in windowed mode, the "Full Screen" action is in the same location.
But in full screen mode, there's a new, different menu, and "Full Screen" is near the bottom of the View sub-menu. This is an HTPC, so there isn't a keyboard, and switching between windowed and full screen is more difficult.

Can it be moved back? Thanks.

See here:

PLEASE bring back the "Full Screen" option from the right click menu on videos, i use that all the damn time to get out of fullscreen as i only need to right click then slightly move the cursor to click "Full Screen", build 1.5.2.3445 beta is the last major beta that still has this, newer betas have removed it.

Just double click on videoframe to toggle between fullscreen and window mode. It's even faster.
You can also set up in options what mouse button you prefer for this.

No problem here :cool:

[73ChargerFan]

I can't double click with the mouse fast enough.

[Asmodian]

Slow down the double click speed in Windows. :p

[Klaus1189]

You can also click the middle button/scroll wheel. But of course set it up first in options.

[cremor]

I prefer a key instead of double clicking because it happens way to often that I want to double click and then move the window by accident.
Would be really great if we had an option to disable moving the window when clicking inside the video frame.

[Klaus1189]

I prefer a key instead of double clicking because it happens way to often that I want to double click and then move the window by accident.
Would be really great if we had an option to disable moving the window when clicking inside the video frame.

You can also click the middle button/scroll wheel. But of course set it up first in options.

Again: Open Options -> Keys and set ID 830 from LeftDblClk to what ever you like, just like Left Up / Left Down / Middle Up / Middle Down, ...
Be sure to change both entries, one for windowed mode, one for fullscreen mode.
-> No double click action required anymore

I personally got a wireless keyboard :cool:

[THEAST]

Is it possible to disable the name and version of MPC-BE in title bar so that only file name is displayed in that space similar to MPC-HC?

[ryrynz]

Nope, you could do CTRL + 0 though to go Frame only.

[THEAST]

Does the developer watch this thread or is there any way to request this as a feature?

[v0lt]

Is it possible to disable the name and version of MPC-BE in title bar so that only file name is displayed in that space similar to MPC-HC?
There is no such option.

[Zero3K]

I have another error with it and StreamBuffRe. When I use it as the player in StreamBuffRe and visit a URL such as https://www.twitch.tv/videos/292508749 (which is inputted into the URL bar of StreamBuffRe and then the resulting playlist entry is double clicked on), I get a "failed to render" error.

Please fix it soon (if possible).

[Aleksoid1978]

Please fix it soon (if possible).
StreamBuffRe reject connection from internal filters(in latest version), all questions to the author.

P.S. For twitch need install LAV Filters.

[Zero3K]

StreamBuffRe reject connection from internal filters(in latest version), all questions to the author.

P.S. For twitch need install LAV Filters.

I saw the issue you posted on the Github Issue Tracker for it. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

EDIT: I don't want to have to install external filters just to be able to play Twitch VODs (streams work fine except for the fact that they disconnect on me often).

[raymondjpg]

Without the menu there is no way to know which track is supposed to be used for forced subtitles. If the default choice doesn't work, you have to pick the right track manually.

I have a related question. With 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta I cannot get the player to automatically select an external subtitle file. It has to be done manually.

I have tried advanced settings in LAV Splitter with !d and !f in the string but the player just seems to ignore those settings.

I can see no way to permanently set mpc-be to automatically prefer an external subtitle file, if available. If it is set manually, it only appears to apply to the specific file where it is set, and not to other files.

[chros]

It works here with srt subs, using lavfilters as well, but the sub management is done by mpc-be (uaing latest beta).
You have to name the subs properly.

[raymondjpg]

It works here with srt subs, using lavfilters as well, but the sub management is done by mpc-be (uaing latest beta).
You have to name the subs properly.

My external subs have the exact same name as the video file.

The issue I have is that, if there is an internal default subtitle stream in the video file, then mpc-be will select that regardless of the setting in the player "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles". The external subtitles can be selected manually from the drop-down menu while the file is playing (or paused) but that setting only applies to that file, not any other file.

If there are no internal (embedded) subtitles then the external subtitle file is picked up by the player as the default (only) option available.

[chros]

My external subs have the exact same name as the video file.
Good. Although I use these: "foo.EN.srt", "foo.DE.srt", etc.

The issue I have is that, if there is an internal default subtitle stream in the video file, then mpc-be will select that

If there are no internal (embedded) subtitles then the external subtitle file is picked up by the player as the default (only) option available.
"internal default subtitle stream"? (I'm not sure about the default word, where can I check it whether my files have any of this?)

I wrote a small guide for MadVR - MPC-HC/BE here:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1820039#post1820039

Although I don't see anything interesting in it that you haven't mentioned yet. Is it maybe a lavsplitter setting? Can you post yours? (I can check mine in the evening.)

[raymondjpg]

Thanks for the response.

"internal default subtitle stream"? (I'm not sure about the default word, where can I check it whether my files have any of this?)

The status of the subtitle streams can be determined by loading them into MKVToolNix GUI.

I wrote a small guide for MadVR - MPC-HC/BE here:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1820039#post1820039

I did see that guide, but when you say "it will always select first the external sub (srt) if it exist and you have set a preferred language at "Options -> Playback -> Default track preference; Sub: 'hu hun en eng'" my experience is that it does not. MPC-BE appears to ignore the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles".

I am talking specifically about when using the internal subtitle renderer. When using VSFilter/xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter it does appear to honor the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles", however subtitle font sizes have to be edited to suit different video resolutions.

Ideally I would prefer to use the internal subtitle renderer, and to have mpc-be honor the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles".

I have tested this both with 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta and with production build MPC-BE.1.5.1, both x64 versions. Neither appears to honor the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles".

I haven't tested this with the x86 versions.

Although I don't see anything interesting in it that you haven't mentioned yet. Is it maybe a lavsplitter setting? Can you post yours? (I can check mine in the evening.)

Just to keep things simple, my tests have been when selecting Default as the Subtitle Selection Mode in LAV Splitter. I have tried advanced settings, but again mpc-be appears to ignore these.

Regards

EDIT: My apologies, the issue appears to be confined to the 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta. With production build MPC-BE.1.5.1 the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles" appears to be honored if set a preferred language at "Options -> Playback -> Default track preference; Sub eng.

The issue may be related to a different way of selecting subtitle streams in the beta.

Regards

[chros]

The status of the subtitle streams can be determined by loading them into MKVToolNix GUI.
Cheers, I'll check them, but I'm pretty sure at least 1 of them has it.

I am talking specifically about when using the internal subtitle renderer.

I have tested this both with 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta and with production build MPC-BE.1.5.1, both x64 versions.
I haven't tested this with the x86 versions.
Me too :) x64, internal sub renderer.

Just to keep things simple, my tests have been when selecting Default as the Subtitle Selection Mode in LAV Splitter. I have tried advanced settings, but again mpc-be appears to ignore these.
OK, I'll take a look.
It must be a setting somewhere since it works for me :)

[Aleksoid1978]

Just now check loading external subtitles with "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles", using internal subtitle renderer. When options check - always loading external subtitles by default, uncheck - loading internal subtitles.

[raymondjpg]

I did add an edit on my last post:

EDIT: My apologies, the issue appears to be confined to the 1.5.2 (build 3788) beta. With production build MPC-BE.1.5.1 the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles" appears to be honored if set a preferred language at "Options -> Playback -> Default track preference; Sub eng.

The issue may be related to a different way of selecting subtitle streams in the beta.

Regards

[chros]

No worries, but I also use the latest beta (I don't recall the build number now).

[chros]

No worries, but I also use the latest beta (I don't recall the build number now).
Actually I used 1.5.2 b3445 x64, but it also works here with 3788 x64, tried with default pgs and srt embedded subs in mkv container as well (none of them were forced tracks).

Lav Splitter (0.72.0) settings (I think these're the default ones):
- audio: none
- subs: none
- sub selection mode: default
- Blu-Ray Subs: x enable auto forced sub streams
- Demuxer settings: x demux sub-streams separately

[raymondjpg]

Actually I used 1.5.2 b3445 x64, but it also works here with 3788 x64, tried with default pgs and srt embedded subs in mkv container as well (none of them were forced tracks).

Lav Splitter (0.72.0) settings (I think these're the default ones):
- audio: none
- subs: none
- sub selection mode: default
- Blu-Ray Subs: x enable auto forced sub streams
- Demuxer settings: x demux sub-streams separately

Thanks for trying. I used your settings, but still see the same issue. If you have 1.5.2 b3445 x64, do you see all of the subtitle options if you right click on the screen while playing (or pause) the video? If you do, try this:

1. If you have an external subtitle file, temporarily rename it.
2. Play the video, and using the right click on the screen, see which of the available subtitle streams is selected. That would be the situation that would apply if no external subtitle were available. The player would select one of the internal streams.
3. Rename the external subtitle file exactly the same as the video file, and play again.
4. When you right click on the screen, do you still see the same internal subtitle stream selected that you saw at step 2? I do, with 3788 x64, and that is what I mean by the player not honoring the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles".

If I use production version MPC-BE.1.5.1.x64, then at step 3 the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles" is honored. The external subtitle file is selected in preference to the internal streams.

I am not complaining. I suspect that the difference in behavior is due to the different ways in which the subtitle streams are selected in the production and beta versions. In the beta version, once a stream is selected on right click, be it internal or external, that stream is always selected as long as that file is remembered in the .ini file, regardless of the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles". In some ways that ability to select the subtitle stream (not in the latest production version) may be beneficial for some users.

I prefer to always have the "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles" flag honored, so I have gone back to using the production version MPC-BE.1.5.1.x64 for now.

Regards

[BetA13]

just a quick question :)

i tried Nvidia DSR on my 900p monitor. So in the end i have an 1200p monitor.
Anyway, in my tests, the picture looked slightly better (sharper) then without DSR.

My question would be, is this an good idea? Or should i just use teh scalers built into MPC BE? like bicubic or catmull-rom?

Or is this DSR stuff in terms of video playback just an bad idea ?

greetz

[chros]

If you have 1.5.2 b3445 x64
I also upgraded to b3788, so we are on the same page :)

If you do, try this:
1. If you have an external subtitle file, temporarily rename it.
2. Play the video, and using the right click on the screen, see which of the available subtitle streams is selected. That would be the situation that would apply if no external subtitle were available. The player would select one of the internal streams.
3. Rename the external subtitle file exactly the same as the video file, and play again.
4. When you right click on the screen, do you still see the same internal subtitle stream selected that you saw at step 2? I do, with 3788 x64, and that is what I mean by the player not honoring the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles".

If I use production version MPC-BE.1.5.1.x64, then at step 3 the flag "Prefer external subtitles over embedded subtitles" is honored. The external subtitle file is selected in preference to the internal streams.
The steps work for me with b3788 as well :) No matter what I tried, the external sub kicks in as it should if the naming is right. I even tried to use ini file (normally I don't use it).

There's an Advanced submenu under Subtitles: did you check Force sub only option? That's the only thing I can think of. :)

[raymondjpg]

The steps work for me with b3788 as well :) No matter what I tried, the external sub kicks in as it should if the naming is right. I even tried to use ini file (normally I don't use it).

There's an Advanced submenu under Subtitles: did you check Force sub only option? That's the only thing I can think of. :)

The only thing I can think of is that with your setup the external file kicked in before you set the option for an ini file. With an ini file, no matter which internal subtitle option I select, it stays with that option whether or not an external subtitle file is present.

I don't have the forced sub option checked in the advanced submenu under Subtitles.

I am attaching a screenshot of what I see when I select the subtitle popup menu. Even if I put an external subtitle file, properly named, in the same directory, the same internal subtitle is still selected i.e. the external subtitle is not preferred. If it doesn't happen with you, I don't know why.

Probably not worth pursuing any more.

EDIT: Looks like the behavior I was seeing is related to the use of an ini file. Without an ini file, the Prefer external subtitle flag is honored. If an ini file is present, then the last selected subtitle is used, and the Prefer external subtitle flag is not honored. As I use ini files to conveniently remember player settings, and sometimes transfer those settings to another pc, I will probably continue to use them.

Problem solved I think.

[chros]

EDIT: Looks like the behavior I was seeing is related to the use of an ini file. Without an ini file, the Prefer external subtitle flag is honored. If an ini file is present, then the last selected subtitle is used, and the Prefer external subtitle flag is not honored. As I use ini files to conveniently remember player settings, and sometimes transfer those settings to another pc, I will probably continue to use them.
As I said, I also tried out with an ini file the b3788 and it worked as well.
Errr... Are you sure that you have write access to the directory where the ini resides? :)

If so, try out the following:
- backup your ini file
- set the player to not use ini file
- delete the ini file
- set the player back to use ini file
- now try out again

[raymondjpg]

As I said, I also tried out with an ini file the b3788 and it worked as well.
Errr... Are you sure that you have write access to the directory where the ini resides? :)

If so, try out the following:
- backup your ini file
- set the player to not use ini file
- delete the ini file
- set the player back to use ini file
- now try out again

I went through all of those steps, but i still see the same behavior.

There was no need to delete the ini file, it disappeared automatically when the player was set to not use ini file, and reappeared automatically when the player was set back to use the ini file.

After doing what you suggested I went through the four steps I posted previously. The player still retains the last subtitle selected, and does not honor the Prefer external subtitle flag.

If, however, I deselect the option Keep history of recently opened files, then the Prefer external subtitle flag is honored.

It looks then like the behavior is related to that Keep history flag, rather than the use of the ini file. Even without an ini file, the player remembers the last selected subtitle if the Keep history flag is selected.

[Aleksoid1978]

Yes - history remember selected subtitles. And it's remember even if select external(auto-loaded) subtitles.

[chros]

It looks then like the behavior is related to that Keep history flag, rather than the use of the ini file. Even without an ini file, the player remembers the last selected subtitle if the Keep history flag is selected.

Yes - history remember selected subtitles. And it's remember even if select external(auto-loaded) subtitles.

:D Good find, what an investigation this was! Well, I personally don't use this feature, so that's why I wasn't affected. Although I'm not sure it's a good feature or not. How many entries will it remember?

[raymondjpg]

:D Good find, what an investigation this was! Well, I personally don't use this feature, so that's why I wasn't affected. Although I'm not sure it's a good feature or not. How many entries will it remember?

I'm not sure how many entries. This ticket https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/2425 suggests a default of 20 with mpc-be, but configurable in the box next to the keep history tab.

I use the keep history flag principally to remember the last opened position of a video file i.e. to resume play from that position. There may be another way to do that, but I don't know of one.

[Grimsdyke]

Sorry if this has been asked before but is there a way so that the chapter name is always visible in the 'time code' bar right next to 'Play', 'Pause' or what ever the current status is ???
When I jump to a chapter the name is displayed only for a few seconds !! I find that useful for music content like concerts, etc.

[chros]

MPC-BE latest beta b3788 always (!) freezes when using After Playback - Standby. I didn't have this issue with 1.5.2 beta b3445. Can somebody confirm this? Thanks

[Klaus1189]

Try latest nightly also.

[chros]

Try latest nightly also.

Same.

[Klaus1189]

Sorry if this has been asked before but is there a way so that the chapter name is always visible in the 'time code' bar right next to 'Play', 'Pause' or what ever the current status is ???
When I jump to a chapter the name is displayed only for a few seconds !! I find that useful for music content like concerts, etc.

enable this (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WpBSsNxsjtP08Wgr5ZN15EIlooYYRJmI/view?usp=sharing) setting in options->player->interface->just move mouse over one chapter adn its title is displayed.

[Grimsdyke]

Thx Klaus, but this is unfortunately not what I asked ! I would like to have the chapter name always displayed in the 'time code' bar.

[Klaus1189]

I know, but I thought it might help you nevertheless.

[LeVvE]

Is there any way to make MPC-BE auto-size window with album covers? "Limit window proportions on resize" doesn't seem to work either with album covers.

It looks like this when you open a music file with album cover: https://i.imgur.com/cfmQGDJ.png

Would be much cleaner if it looked like this when opening a file instead: https://i.imgur.com/yBJSVcp.png

Worked like this in MPC-HC but I prefer to use MPC-BE as I like it more overall.

Is there some setting I'm missing or is this not possible?

[Aleksoid1978]

Auto-size with covers don't support.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE latest beta b3788 always (!) freezes when using After Playback - Standby. I didn't have this issue with 1.5.2 beta b3445. Can somebody confirm this? Thanks

Check - no freezes, MPC-BE close, system StandBy.

[chros]

Check - no freezes, MPC-BE close, system StandBy.
Thanks for checking! I still got the freeze every time (!) with latest beta and nightly. I'll put back beta b3445 today to see what happens.
To clarify it what happens:
- set player to standby
- it properly put the computer into sleep
- but when I wake up Windows then MPC-BE app is still there (it should have quit properly) and there's a Windows popup with 3 buttons that the application isn't responding

[clsid]

Just FYI, VSFilter (from HC) doubled in size for me with VS2017 15.8.1 so there might be a compiler bug. I have reverted to 15.7.6.

[Aleksoid1978]

Just FYI, VSFilter (from HC) doubled in size for me with VS2017 15.8.1 so there might be a compiler bug. I have reverted to 15.7.6.

Yes we known - https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/content/problem/312206/mfc-exe-binary-size-is-5-times-bigger-in-vs-158-ms.html

[Aleksoid1978]

Thanks for checking! I still got the freeze every time (!) with latest beta and nightly. I'll put back beta b3445 today to see what happens.
To clarify it what happens:
- set player to standby
- it properly put the computer into sleep
- but when I wake up Windows then MPC-BE app is still there (it should have quit properly) and there's a Windows popup with 3 buttons that the application isn't responding

Maybe you system is "very fast" and MPC-BE does not have time to close :)

[ryrynz]

Sounds like you could try setting the WaitToKillAppTimeout a bit higher.

[chros]

Maybe you system is "very fast" and MPC-BE does not have time to close :)

:D I don't think so :)

Sounds like you could try setting the WaitToKillAppTimeout a bit higher.

I'll put back beta b3445 today to see what happens.
b3445 works fine. So it's a bug in recent versions. Tonight I'll try out the other b3656 as well to narrow down the issue.


To clarify it what happens:
- set player to standby
- it properly put the computer into sleep
- but when I wake up Windows then MPC-BE app is still there (it should have quit properly) and there's a Windows popup with 3 buttons that the application isn't responding

I forgot to mention that I'm using a multi-monitor setup, external monitor and TV. I can't think of anything else if you guys couldn't reproduce the issue.
So what happen is:
- TV is on, monitor off
- set player to standby
- it properly put the computer into sleep
- but when I wake up Windows, monitor is on, TV is off, then MPC-BE app is still there (it should have quit properly) and there's a Windows popup with 3 buttons that the application isn't responding

I hope it helps.

[Aleksoid1978]

Only you have this bug.

[chros]

Only you have this bug.
:D Maybe, maybe not. No one replied back that it's working fine for him/her apart from you.

[Klaus1189]

:D Maybe, maybe not. No one replied back that it's working fine for him/her apart from you.

You do know Aleksoid1978 is a developer of MPC-BE??
Anyway, I never used that feature before, but I tested now with r3908 and it puts my PC Win 10 Pro 1803 x64 to Standby, then power LED is blinking and when I press a key on my keyboard, it wakes up and I log in with my password -> it is working fine.

Do you have another computer to test?

[chros]

You do know Aleksoid1978 is a developer of MPC-BE??
I do :)
Anyway, I never used that feature before
That was my point.

but I tested now with r3908 and it puts my PC Win 10 Pro 1803 x64 to Standby, then power LED is blinking and when I press a key on my keyboard, it wakes up and I log in with my password -> it is working fine.

Do you have another computer to test?
No I don't, and thanks for testing.

Just tried out again:
- the issue is 100% reproducable when the TV is off and only the Monitor is used as well

I also tried out b3656 x64 and it also has the issue. The last working beta (in this regard) here is the b3445.

Please let me know if you need some logs, and if so, then how I can create it.

[Aleksoid1978]

chros
Try this test build - https://yadi.sk/d/3svrHgPx3agNEP

[chros]

chros
Try this test build - https://yadi.sk/d/3svrHgPx3agNEP
Thanks for the test build: no more crash!
But that's interesting: when the computer is woken up MPC-BE starts to auto-play the same file again! :) So probably that was the reason for the crash before.
But which setting is responsible for this? I don't want MPC-BE to play anything when the computer wakes up :)

I have the "Remember last playlist" checked in Player -> History. Is that it?
Under Playback -> Playback: Play 1 times is set and NO "Repeat forever" set and neither "Rewind when done playing".

Thanks

Edit: I unchecked "Remember last playlist" in History but b3788 x64 still crashes.

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE must be closed when system StandBy. Very strange.

[chros]

Yep. What I can do if you want that I'll upload my setting ini file somewhere this evening.

[Aleksoid1978]

Yep. What I can do if you want that I'll upload my setting ini file somewhere this evening.

Try reset settings to default.

[chros]

Try reset settings to default.
I have reset the settings (after making a backup of it) - no madvr, no lavfilters, etc. - and the x86 test build still auto-start and play the last content after waking up Windows. :)

[Grimsdyke]

I am experiencing something similar sometimes.
When I immediately close BE after deleting the 'recent files' list BE sometimes still plays the last entry of that list at the next start although that should be empty then !!

[Klaus1189]

I am experiencing something similar sometimes.
When I immediately close BE after deleting the 'recent files' list BE sometimes still plays the last entry of that list at the next start although that should be empty then !!

Recent files is stored in *.ini file, but the last played file is also stored in default.mpcpl. Delete that file, what happens?

[Grimsdyke]

I will try to manually trigger this error but I am not sure if this is possible.
But it looks like as if 'recent files' and 'last played file' are somehow in conflict !? Maybe also in Chros' case ?

[Aleksoid1978]

For remember last played file - options "Player -> Remeber last playlist".

[Zetti]

Is there any plan to add MediaInfo v18.08??

[KoD]

Reporting a bug:
- start in Administrator mode
- Options -> Player -> Formats -> check to enable "Blu-ray playlist (mpls bdmv)"
- press Apply or Ok
- go again to Options -> Player -> Formats
-> "Blu-ray playlist (mpls bdmv)" is not enabled

This is on Windows 10.

Later edit: actually, I found out later that the association was made, but it was not visible in the Options dialog right away.

[Klaus1189]

Is there any plan to add MediaInfo v18.08??

good point


I ask carefully for all my friends who use MPC-BE and I think it's a good time to release a stable release (they use betas and stable releases) so I can update their computers to the new stable/beta, I use the nightlies, which are rocksolid ;)

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3926

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3929

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Updated r3930.

@All
Please tell me what one term (in English) can be called YouTube, Vimeo, Twitch, etc?

[alex1399]

hoster, video streaming, video sharing websites, online contents

[Klaus1189]

Maybe these links help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_video_platform

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3936 :)

about 4,5 years I am doing translation work for MPC-BE, time flies ... :eek:

[hubi73]

Since yesterday, or maybe a few days, MPC-BE is no longer be able to play music video streams from Youtube.
Can anybody confirm this?

Since this is my first post here, I give thanks to the developers for their great work.

[mithra66]

Hello Team,

My first post in this thread, so first I thank you very much for all the great work accomplished so far. MPC-BE is the one player for me since it allows to output sound with highest fidelity (WASAPI exclusive).

About that, I installed latest MPC BE 1.5.2 nightlybuild and I noticed that the option to sync video to audio has disappeared since 1.5.1. Is it wanted by the developer?

If so , is there a way to mitigate A/V desynchronisation I don't know about?

Thanks for your help,

[beter]

Since yesterday, or maybe a few days, MPC-BE is no longer be able to play music video streams from Youtube.
Can anybody confirm this?

Since this is my first post here, I give thanks to the developers for their great work.

Any links? I can play youtube video with MPC-BE.

[Klaus1189]

I had to do some more adjustments in translation, sorry for already second update of today.
updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3941

@hubi73:
Sample link, you have tested? Have you tried more videos?

[beter]

Update for translation based on 3936:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/m4jp6l

[hubi73]

I have tried dozens of videos e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVV9K7rhC4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj4ADZhEfJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCXGJQYZ9JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuUbziASwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aVefRDx1ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuUbziASwE

The links above won't work since yesterday and these links still work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLDsvDGHLVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unH9laYkWNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvGTsWvw2HU

It seems to me, that only links the are "less commercial" still work.

[Klaus1189]

Hello Team,

My first post in this thread, so first I thank you very much for all the great work accomplished so far. MPC-BE is the one player for me since it allows to output sound with highest fidelity (WASAPI exclusive).

About that, I installed latest MPC BE 1.5.2 nightlybuild and I noticed that the option to sync video to audio has disappeared since 1.5.1. Is it wanted by the developer?

If so , is there a way to mitigate A/V desynchronisation I don't know about?

Thanks for your help,

Do all your files play with synchronisation issues, or is it just one?

If you have issues with all files, play one file and press "+" and/or "-" on your keyboard so long till the file is in sync.
After you have tweaked it you can set it up in options to use it by default. See here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16elmukrrLuGEuZMyixwwLBGG48RU5K8w/view?usp=sharing)

How are your speakers and your display connected to your computer? -> Here are many choices and some of them don't need an audio delay in options.

[hubi73]

Btw: my MPC-BE version is x64 v1.5.2 (build 3788) and I'm located in Germany.

[mithra66]

Do all your files play with synchronisation issues, or is it just one?

How are your speakers and your display connected to your computer? -> Here are many choices and some of them don't need an audio delay in options.

It seems it happens only on dvd and mainly when moving to some time as it takes a small moment for the picture to appear (or focus).

For other interlaced material mp4 or bluray I have no such issue.

So I don't think that some predefined delay will make the trick for me as it depends on the kind of video and the somehow random induced delay.

As I remember there was nos focus delay in 1.5.1 and the synchronization was pitch perfect with the missed "Synch. Method".

Regarding my speakers, I'm using an asus essence STX2 audio card which output directly to an HIFI analog stereo ampli(no using SPDIF and no AV ampli) .

Thanks anyway and looking for your replies,

[Klaus1189]

What filters do you use? Which OS? For example external LAV Filters and madVR on Win10 18.03.

[mithra66]

What filters do you use? Which OS? For example external LAV Filters and madVR on Win10 18.03.

I’m using external lavsplitter+lav video decoder+ lav audio decoder (all 0.71) and madvr 0.92.14 on Win7.:thanks:

[hubi73]

@Klaus1189
I'm not sure if you ask me, but I'm using external LAV-Filters 0.72 and madvr 0.92.14 and Win 10 1607.

Regarding the won't working links, i think Google/YouTube tries to threatening or suppress MPC or any other unofficial video player.

[Klaus1189]

@hubi73: wait for next nightlies, there is experimental youtube-dl integration.

[hubi73]

@Klaus1189
Thank you, I'll try the nightlies then. A download feature was a silent wish from me anyway.

[Klaus1189]

I‘m not sure if it is a download feature, it looks more like a playing feature.

[chros]

@Klaus1189
I'm not sure if you ask me, but I'm using external LAV-Filters 0.72 and madvr 0.92.14 and Win 10 1607.

Regarding the won't working links, i think Google/YouTube tries to threatening or suppress MPC or any other unofficial video player.
Although I haven't tried out your links but I also had problems with youtube videos using LAVfilters (buffering related issues), try to enable the internal MP4/MOV splitter (= source filter) and try again. (I use 1.5.2 b3445 x64)

@Klaus1189
Thank you, I'll try the nightlies then. A download feature was a silent wish from me anyway.
Can't you "File -> Save" the video?

MPC-BE must be closed when system StandBy. Very strange.
Any news about this? Thanks

[Aleksoid1978]

chros

I don't know.

[hubi73]

@chros

I experienced things like buffer issues only in versions before LAV-Filter 0.72 and before MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3656) beta, since then playback is very stable, even if I go back and forth in the timeline.

My problem is that MPC-BE can't find the links, the have been marked as invalid in the playlist from one day to the next.

Regarding the download feature, I have playlists up to 100 titles. So download is only handy for me, if I can download playlists and not files.

[chros]

I don't know.
No worries, maybe I'll try to find the last build that don't have the issue.
My problem is that MPC-BE can't find the links, the have been marked as invalid in the playlist from one day to the next.
Just tried out the first non-working link and indeed it doesn't work here either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVV9K7rhC4Q

But recent MPC-HC (https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases) find it and it works in it with the help of youtube-dl.exe , via "File -> Open".

Regarding the download feature, I have playlists up to 100 titles. So download is only handy for me, if I can download playlists and not files.
Oh, I see.

[iSeries]

I see there are hotkeys to change the amount of audio delay, wondered if there is a hotkey to toggle delay on/off?

[chros]

No worries, maybe I'll try to find the last build that don't have the issue.
I found the one, I tried out lot of mpc-be64.exe from this link: https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58
- the last good version: 1.5.2 b3533
- the first bad version: 1.5.2 b3537

I hope it helps, thanks!

[hubi73]

@chros: Thank you for your help, I will try it out, but at the moment I can't install new software on my computer.

[heiseikiseki]

Hello, Is there any plan or possibility for Release of MPC-BE on Microsoft Store? That should be easy for update and install.:)

[Aleksoid1978]

Opening youtube fixed in latest SVN version. Google do sone change :)

[hubi73]

A thousand thanks!

[Aleksoid1978]

I found the one, I tried out lot of mpc-be64.exe from this link: https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58
- the last good version: 1.5.2 b3533
- the first bad version: 1.5.2 b3537

I hope it helps, thanks!

These commits could not so affect. Maybe issue in MS VS C++ compiler ... i don't know.

Show filter list when playback.

[hubi73]

The change between two video clips is now smoother than in build 3788. But since build 3656 (approximately) MPC-BE crashes more often between two videos in a playlist.

The crashes occur every 10-20 video clips, but that one crashes more often than others (almost every time):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgTx8GBKk-0
The crash occur at the end of that clip before the next clip is opened.

[Aleksoid1978]

The change between two video clips is now smoother than in build 3788. But since build 3656 (approximately) MPC-BE crashes more often between two videos in a playlist.

The crashes occur every 10-20 video clips, but that one crashes more often than others (almost every time):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgTx8GBKk-0
The crash occur at the end of that clip before the next clip is opened.

What quality, what filters when playback ??

[chros]

These commits could not so affect. Maybe issue in MS VS C++ compiler ... i don't know.
Hhmm ... the compiler is the same according to the About window:
MSVC 2017, GCC 7.2.0, 58.17.100 / 56.13.100

Something definitely changed between b3533/b3537.

Show filter list when playback.
I tried out with resetting my settings as well (using internal filters), but here it is with a simple mkv file (Video: H.264/AVC 1280x720 23.976fps, Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps, embedded subrip subtitles):
- Lav splitter source + Lav audio decoder + Lav video decoder
- Audio switcher
- MadVR renderer
- MPC audio renderer

[Aleksoid1978]

Hhmm ... the compiler is the same according to the About window:
MSVC 2017, GCC 7.2.0, 58.17.100 / 56.13.100

Something definitely changed between b3533/b3537.


I tried out with resetting my settings as well (using internal filters), but here it is with a simple mkv file (Video: H.264/AVC 1280x720 23.976fps, Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps, embedded subrip subtitles):
- Lav splitter source + Lav audio decoder + Lav video decoder
- Audio switcher
- MadVR renderer
- MPC audio renderer

Disable LAV filters/madVR/MPC Audio renderer.

[chros]

Disable LAV filters/madVR/MPC Audio renderer.
I can try out tonight.
But can you compile 3 bulds from 3534, 3535, 3536? So we will know for sure which commit is the problem.
I looked at the comitts and the only change is made in the audio renderer.

[hubi73]

@Aleksoid1978
Quality:
mp4 1080p HFR on HDR off >> CRASH
webM 720p HFR off HDR off >> STABLE after short testing

Filters:
external LAV-Filter v0.72
madvr 0.92.14
OS: Windows 10 1607 x64
CPU: AMD A8-7650K

I will test some other quality settings during the day.

[Aleksoid1978]

@Aleksoid1978
Quality:
mp4 1080p HFR on HDR off >> CRASH
webM 720p HFR off HDR off >> STABLE after short testing

Filters:
external LAV-Filter v0.72
madvr 0.92.14
OS: Windows 10 1607 x64
CPU: AMD A8-7650K

I will test some other quality settings during the day.

1 - test without madVR.
2 - test without LAV.

I use only internal filters, all perfect.

[Zetti]

Thank you to the MPC-BE team for MediaInfo v18.08 support in the lastest nightly build.

[chros]

Disable ... MPC Audio renderer.
Thanks, that was a good idea! That's the issue for whatever reason.
I tested with b3537 and set Directsound audio renderer and it worked! If I set it back to MPC Audio renderer it starts crashing again.


But can you compile 3 bulds from 3534, 3535, 3536? So we will know for sure which commit is the problem.
I looked at the comitts and the only change is made in the audio renderer.
So, actually b3534 (https://github.com/jeeb/mpc-be/commit/9ad4f9ed7c966b58168cdaca69c5a59b2dbf17c0) isn't needed since it's just language update.
But one of these commits has the problem:
- b3535 (https://github.com/jeeb/mpc-be/commit/9fe9934d6504da5935beafe69b2708a250c4230b)
- b3536 (https://github.com/jeeb/mpc-be/commit/92c7d2eb16b70105156a0207c70047f65b48049f)
- b3537 (https://github.com/jeeb/mpc-be/commit/25065433ec750ca9548e12463357980a3b7d1873)

I'd vote for the first big one: b3535

So can you compile 2 builds from b3535 and b3536? Thanks

[hubi73]

I moved from external LAV-Spitter to internal Splitter and now every thing is fine. Thank you.

[Aleksoid1978]

chros
try test build - https://yadi.sk/d/318brFW6lk-TzQ

[chros]

chros
try test build - https://yadi.sk/d/318brFW6lk-TzQ
Thanks, but still not good: no crash but mpc-be auto-starts playback.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hello all,

I've probably missed an obvious function but I don't seem to be able to find out where I can enable a 'frame number' display option.

Is this possible?

[sneaker_ger]

It would be difficult to implement. In containers like mkv you seek to specific times without knowing the number of frames (variable framerate). To be reliable you'd often need to index the entire file.

[Aleksoid1978]

Thanks, but still not good: no crash but mpc-be auto-starts playback.

What can i say - don't use MPC Audio Renderer. I don't know what's wrong and can't help you, sorry ((

[SeeMoreDigital]

It would be difficult to implement. In containers like mkv you seek to specific times without knowing the number of frames (variable framerate). To be reliable you'd often need to index the entire file.Out of interest... Could such a feature be implemented for 'constant' frame rate encoded sources only?

[chros]

What can i say - don't use MPC Audio Renderer.
:) That's the reason why I use MPC-BE instead of MPC-HC.
I don't know what's wrong and can't help you, sorry ((
I know and I understand that it's really hard to figure it out without having replicating the issue locally.
Although We can do one more thing: you can prepare a debug build and I'll upload the logs somewhere.
Thanks for your understanding :)

[chros]

I tested one thing for the last time both with the 2 test builds you made: mpc-be.exe.20180830, mpc-be.exe.20180912
- Only Wasapi Exclusive mode is affected! If I set it to Wasapi Shared mode then it works as it should.

(Note that other nightly builds are not good in both exclusive nor shared mode.)

[hubi73]

Playing web content is always a security risk. Therefore I was happy to use LAV-Filters, because ffmpeg has a pretty good vulnerability management, at least I think so.
Now I'm using MPC-BE's internal Splitter (MPC MP4/MOV Source or MPC Matroska Source) and I'm not sure if they are also ffmpeg based.
So I would like ask, which base has the internal Splitter, is it ffmpeg or something else?

[Aleksoid1978]

All internal source filters - are self writing.

[hubi73]

That sound good to me and I will trust in your skills and carefulness. I was only afraid they were from outside and somehow out of maintenance.

[Aleksoid1978]

Hy all. Test build with suuport new AV1 codec - https://yadi.sk/d/c3NIPEaBptOtjA

[Grimsdyke]

Dual-audio-out in MPC-BE activated and one output is HDMI (TV) and the other is Analog-7.1 (Receiver).
After driver update BE looses the HDMI device and falls back to default and although the TV is set to default in the OS settings there is NO sound !!! So I always have to renew this setting in BE.
This happens also sometimes when I change the refresh rate of the TV.

Microsoft and/or Intel seem to have fixed this long standing issue now !! Foobar runs now flawlessly too. Hurray.

[Grimsdyke]

Latest 64bit-build xx48 does not start because of missing libwinpthread-1.dll !! Does anybody else have this problem too ??

[Zetti]

I got the same problem.

[Klaus1189]

Latest 64bit-build xx48 does not start because of missing libwinpthread-1.dll !! Does anybody else have this problem too ??

I got the same problem.

I downloaded r3949 and it starts as always, maybe already fixed.
Nightlies from @Aleksoid1978:
https://yadi.sk/d/UPpCf3tx3SciJK

[Zetti]

Build 3948 have the problem and Build 3949 working fine.

[Klaus1189]

In options -> internal filters -> Audio decoder
E-AC3 must (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital_Plus) be E-AC-3
see here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mm6t3DEff2qTa5S2vvVNbrREcQ5nN0gD/view?usp=sharing)
I don't find a matching string in translation file :confused:

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
This line is not intended for translation.

[Klaus1189]

OK. I beg to correct it.

[Klaus1189]

@v0lt
Thank you :)

[Mercury_22]

MPC-BE can't see all the "long" playlist when opening a blu-ray including main movie's correct one

While MPC-HC can see it

Sample https://www.sendspace.com/file/2npu9s

[Klaus1189]

A little cosmetic issue is in Options -> Internal Filters -> Tab Source Filters -> Button MPEG splitter configuration
There you can select TrueHD or AC-3 -> the round boxes are cut off at the bottom, maybe we can enlarge that.

Since my desktop resolution is 3840x2160, I use 200% scaling, I tried another pc with 1080p@100% scaling, there it looks fine to me.

Screenshots: 100% (https://drive.google.com/file/d/18XsnZ_xypgansmE4Z-IdNubBS9Ehqvm8/view?usp=sharing) 200% (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qWVHXJ2Uhy3hSyYJPHmiUZYhTWcqEW9U/view?usp=sharing)

[v0lt]

@Mercury_22
Aleksoid1978 changed something in r3963 about this.

@Klaus1189
I corrected the size of radio buttons in r3966. But I checked only in Windows 7.

[Klaus1189]

Thank you v0lt :)

[steakhutzeee]

Hi, as i can see if i change 'styles' on the fly for subs, this works correctly.

If i tweak the 'predefined style' and then select it so i use it for all the videos, i see that the subs is not loaded correctly, i mean, the tags are ignored, like italic etc.

Why this? can i solve?

Thanks :)

[mandarynek82]

https://i.imgur.com/6syxm19.png

http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/2015/12/15/multichannel-directshow-asio-renderer/

ASIO didn't work anymore.

[ryrynz]

Surely this is last beta, it's almost been a year and only for .1 release, why so adverse to releasing stable? Why not have 1.5.2 beta and release 1.5.1.1 with fixes?

[Aleksoid1978]

The release is scheduled for next month, after the purchase of a new certificate.

[beter]

Bug related to Save image (with subtitle) function.

When using madvr, and the windows size doesn't fit the video size, there would be two subtitles in the screenshot, one in high quality and correct ratio, and one in low quality and incorrect ratio on top.

(Edit: it seems that when using madvr the subtitle would be included even if I disabled the "include subtitle function)

The screenshot of a sup subtitle:
https://i.imgur.com/Nz75ZsR.png

The look in the player.
https://i.imgur.com/OLwxC24.png

in case of ass text subtitle, only the spacing is affected, the words would not be stretched.
https://i.imgur.com/2csEA3i.png

[Aleksoid1978]

MadVR include subtitles, player can't handle it. See it's options, i think it have settings for subtitles in screenshot.

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 3973) beta (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Nightly%20Builds%20%28from%20svn%20trunk%29/1.5.2%20%28build%203973%29%20beta/) with a digital signature.

[beter]

MadVR include subtitles, player can't handle it. See it's options, i think it have settings for subtitles in screenshot.

OK, I have found that option in madVR. Thanks.

[Warner306]

I have a feature request. I probably should have asked earlier, but it didn't seem too important:

https://i.postimg.cc/G2QMbZLm/2-_Fullscreen-_Auto-_Change.png

The feature I'm referring to is the Audio Delay column in MPC-HC that can be applied to specific display modes (refresh rates).

I have one display that has high input lag at 24p, so I have to apply a 150 ms delay to the audio, but only at 24 Hz. The delay is required at 24 Hz, so the existing audio delay in MPC-BE must be adjusted manually per video rather than per refresh rate.

I don't know how common this issue is with modern displays, but there are others out there with the same issues.

Some players besides MPC-HC provide this type of functionality.

Plex Media Player allows for an audio delay at 24 Hz:

audio_delay.24hz (https://plexapp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/207338798-Advanced-Configuration)

Kodi also allows for an audio delay at any refresh rate:

<refresh>
<min>23</min>
<max>24</max>
<delay>125</delay>
</refresh> (https://kodi.wiki/view/Advancedsettings.xml)

There are some posts out there referencing this issue:

24p and audio sync issues (https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=80247&highlight=24fps)

audio sync at 24fps (https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/48226-audio-sync-at-24fps/)

I'm not sure if this is relevant to anyone else, but thought I'd ask.

[iSeries]

^^^ Great idea, I too have the same issue at 24p.

[v0lt]

Warner306
I have a "display manager" planned. But this is a big and difficult job that I do not know when we start doing.

[Schrade]

I am using MPC-BE as my video player for Twitch Streams via Streamlink-Twitch-GUI (https://streamlink.github.io/streamlink-twitch-gui/)

When I try to take a screenshot using F5, it says a screenshot has been saved but it doesn't get saved. I think it might have something to do with the .m3u8 filename in the URL being 770 characters long.

Any chance we could have a setting to configure the screenshot filenames? Or perhaps there's another way around this?

MPC-BE x64 v1.5.2 (build 3973)

[Warner306]

Warner306
I have a "display manager" planned. But this is a big and difficult job that I do not know when we start doing.

That sounds fine. I can wait. Thanks for the reply.

[rock]

Menu Subtitles->Advanced->Styles.. doesn't work. I use build 3984. Regards.

[Aleksoid1978]

Menu Subtitles->Advanced->Styles.. doesn't work. I use build 3984. Regards.
Confirm - thank you.

P.S. Fixed.

[mkver]

I think there are some bugs regarding Matroska's cropping feature. This zip archive (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbg7tnfzn04ri92/Crop.Test.zip?dl=0) contains some samples for the issues I am talking about.

1. I think you implemented the default value of the DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight elements incorrectly: It is PixelWidth - PixelCropLeft - PixelCropRight for DisplayWidth and similar for the height if DisplayUnit has the value 0 (which is its default value; DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight have no default value when DisplayUnit has a different value).
a) The files "Crop.Test.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" and "Crop.Test.No.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" both contain an H.264 track with pixel dimensions 1280x720 with black bars at the top and bottom of 80 pixels height each; they also contain a white square at the center so that one can easily test whether the player uses the proper aspect ratio. Both files have cropping parameters indicating that the black bars of 80 pixels should be cropped away. "Crop.Test.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" explicitly contains DisplayWidth (set to 1280) and DisplayHeight (set to 560), indicating that quadratic pixels should be used. "Crop.Test.No.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" differs from aforementioned file in that it doesn't contain explicit DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight values; therefore the default value just described must be used and this results in the same values derived for DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight.
But that's not how MPC-BE does it: "Crop.Test.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" is displayed correctly, but "Crop.Test.No.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" isn't. The bars are cropped, but what is left after cropping is displayed as 16:9 and not as 16:7 as it should be. (In the VIDEOINFOHEADER2, dwPictAspectRatioX is 16 and dwPictAspectRatioY is 9; for the first file, dwPictAspectRatioY is 7.)

b) If you now think that I do this just to save a few bytes from the DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight elements: No, that is not my rationale. It is actually different. It is part of an effort to make these files compatible with players that honour the Matroska cropping parameters and players like MPC-HC (and others that use LAV) that don't ("compatible" means that the the players will play the movie with the right pixel aspect ratio although the latter players will include the black bars). If one plays "Crop.Test.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" with MPC-HC, the black bars aren't cropped away and the display aspect ratio is 16:7 (i.e. the pixels are too wide and there is no square in the middle). But "Crop.Test.No.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" is played with the correct unanamorphic square pixels (LAV does not only not crop, but it also doesn't use the cropping values for the calculation of the inferred values of DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight. By leaving out these two values one can crop non-anamorphic content and it will work on both kinds of players. Given that players that don't honour the cropping flags seem to be the majority, it is important to create files that work for both. (This would be much easier if Matroska would allowed the usage of pixel aspect ratio to determine the aspect ratio.)

c) Should the video track be anamorphic, one can't directly use the strategy above. But a slightly altered one can still be employed if one only wants to crop either vertically or horizontally, but not both:
"Crop.Test.Anamorphic.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" and "Crop.Test.Anamorphic.DisplayHeight.missing.mkv" both contain a video with 640x720 encoded pixels. In the middle is a white rectangle with dimensions 60x120. If viewed with a pixel aspect ratio of 2:1 this becomes a movie with a white square in the middle. At the top and bottom there are black bars of 80 pixels height each; accordingly, both files contain PixelCropTop and PixelCropBottom elements indicating that 80 pixels should be cropped from the top resp. the bottom each. "Crop.Test.Anamorphic.Explicit.Container.Aspect.Ratio.mkv" furthermore contains a DisplayWidth element of 1280 and a DisplayHeight element of 560 (so that the pixel aspect ratio is 2:1 and the white rectangle should be a square). "Crop.Test.Anamorphic.DisplayHeight.missing.mkv" meanwhile contains only a DisplayWidth element of 1280; it's DisplayHeight element is therefore inferred to be 720-80-80=560 according to the specs and for a player that does not honour the crop parameters, it is simply 720. For both kinds of players, the pixel aspect ratio should be 2:1 and the white rectangle a square.
But not for MPC-BE. This seems to be the same underlying bug: The wrong default value of DisplayHeight is inferred. This sample is only here to show that there are situations in which it makes sense to leave only one of the two Display* values out.

2. And there is another bug. All files above have their pixel aspect ratio explictly set in the SPS (i.e. the anamorphic files have a 2:1 ratio there, the ones with the square pixels have 1:1 set). If I set the internal video decoders to use the aspect ratio from the stream and play any of these files, the aspect ratio is always 16:9 (as it should be according to the stream layer), but the black bars on top and bottom are still being cropped away so that the non-black-bar area that should have an aspect ratio of 16:7 is stretched to 16:9.

PS: Thanks to all developers for this great player!

[Aleksoid1978]

My English is not good, for me is difficult to understand so many letters :)

About cropping in Matroska everything is simple:

RECT rect = {VideoPixelCropLeft,
VideoPixelCropTop,
PixelWidth - VideoPixelCropRight),
PixelHeight - VideoPixelCropBottom)};

VIDEOINFOHEADER *vih = (VIDEOINFOHEADER*)item.Format();
vih->rcSource = vih->rcTarget = rect;

VideoPixelCropLeft - 0x54CC
VideoPixelCropTop - 0x54BB
VideoPixelCropRight - 0x54DD
VideoPixelCropBottom - 0x54AA

PixelWidth - 0xB0
PixelHeight - 0xBA

[mkver]

This is the correct rectangle to keep (the rest should be ignored/cropped away) and this part is correct. What is not correct is the aspect ratio of the output in case that one of the DisplayWidth/DisplayHeight elements is missing. In this case its default value applies but it seems that MPC-BE uses DisplayWidth=PixelWidth instead of DisplayWidth=PixelWidth - VideoPixelCropLeft -VideoPixelCropRight for the default value (the same goes for height, of course).

And thanks for answering so fast. MPC-BE's support is really impressive.

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
Try test build - https://yadi.sk/d/b7MbRxAbxVCTqQ

[mkver]

I think I have found where the problem lies. I searched in the code for MPC-BE 1.5.0, but I don't think that file has changed. It is MatroskaFile.cpp:

case 0xB0:
PixelWidth.Parse(pMN);
if (!DisplayWidth) {
DisplayWidth.Set(PixelWidth);
}
break;
case 0xBA:
PixelHeight.Parse(pMN);
if (!DisplayHeight) {
DisplayHeight.Set(PixelHeight);
}
break;
case 0x54B0:
DisplayWidth.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54BA:
DisplayHeight.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54B2:
DisplayUnit.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54B3:
AspectRatioType.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54AA:
VideoPixelCropBottom.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropBottom < 0) VideoPixelCropBottom.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54BB:
VideoPixelCropTop.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropTop < 0) VideoPixelCropTop.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54CC:
VideoPixelCropLeft.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropLeft < 0) VideoPixelCropLeft.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54DD:
VideoPixelCropRight.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropRight < 0) VideoPixelCropRight.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;

As one can see, during parsing of the PixelWidth/PixelHeight elements the corresponding DisplayWidth/DisplayHeight values get set if they have not already been set. And the default value that they are set to does not include the VideoPixelCrop* values. Now one might think that one should simply correct the default value to e.g. DisplayHeight.Set(PixelHeight - VideoPixelCropBottom - VideoPixelCropTop). While this would improve matters for those files for which the Crop values are parsed before the PixelWidth/PixelHeight values, the other files are not fixed by this. A real solution is possible by deferring the decision whether to use the default value or not until later. I don't know if this is valid C++ (I hope so), but this is what I have in mind:

HRESULT Video::Parse(CMatroskaNode* pMN0)
{
BeginChunk
case 0x9A:
FlagInterlaced.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x53B8:
StereoMode.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0xB0:
PixelWidth.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0xBA:
PixelHeight.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54B0:
DisplayWidth.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54BA:
DisplayHeight.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54B2:
DisplayUnit.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54B3:
AspectRatioType.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x54AA:
VideoPixelCropBottom.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropBottom < 0) VideoPixelCropBottom.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54BB:
VideoPixelCropTop.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropTop < 0) VideoPixelCropTop.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54CC:
VideoPixelCropLeft.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropLeft < 0) VideoPixelCropLeft.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x54DD:
VideoPixelCropRight.Parse(pMN);
if ((INT64)VideoPixelCropRight < 0) VideoPixelCropRight.Set(0); // fix bad value
break;
case 0x2EB524:
ColourSpace.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x2FB523:
GammaValue.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x2383E3:
FramePerSec.Parse(pMN);
break;
case 0x55B0:
VideoColorInformation.Parse(pMN);
break;
}
}
while (pMN->Next());

if (VideoPixelCropLeft + VideoPixelCropRight >= PixelWidth) {
VideoPixelCropLeft.Set(0);
VideoPixelCropRight.Set(0);
}

if (VideoPixelCropTop + VideoPixelCropBottom >= PixelHeight) {
VideoPixelCropTop.Set(0);
VideoPixelCropBottom.Set(0);
}

if (DisplayUnit && !(DisplayWidth && DisplayHeight)) {
DisplayWidth.Set(0);
DisplayHeight.Set(0);
DisplayUnit.Set(0);
}

if (!DisplayWidth) {
DisplayWidth.Set(PixelWidth - VideoPixelCropLeft - VideoPixelCropRight);
}

if (!DisplayHeight) {
DisplayHeight.Set(PixelHeight - VideoPixelCropTop - VideoPixelCropBottom);
}

return S_OK;
}

[mkver]

Thanks for your efforts. I just tested your build and the non-anamorphic videos look right; but the anamorphic videos (all anamorphic Matroska videos, not just the two samples I have uploaded) are now presented as if the pixels were quadratic.

PS: What I posted is only intended as a fix for the first bug I reported, not the second one.

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
Second test build - https://yadi.sk/d/ZFQwkJCj__kdpw

[mkver]

Now ordinary anamorphic Matroska videos (those that explicitly contain the display dimension elements) are presented correctly, but if one of the two display dimensions is missing, it's back to square pixels again.
Could you check whether my suggestion does compile? If so, I'd like to test it.

[Aleksoid1978]

If one of the two display dimensions is missing - i use:

DisplayWidth.Set(PixelWidth - VideoPixelCropLeft - VideoPixelCropRight);
DisplayHeight.Set(PixelHeight - VideoPixelCropTop - VideoPixelCropBottom);

for both display dimensions.

I think - if width or height is missing - both display dimensions is invalid and rewrite from Pixel + Crop dimension.

[mkver]

If a parent/master element B can contain an element A that has a default value, then if B (or rather: an instance of B) exists and doesn't contain (an instance of) A, then it is assumed that a child element A that has the default value exists as a child of B. If DisplayUnit is 0, then DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight have default values, so that this applies. So in this case, DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight is always set -- either explicitly because the element is written in the file or implicitly because of the default value. It doesn't matter which of these elements is choosen. If DisplayUnit is 0, then actually DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight can never be missing because they are assumed (they are assumed to have their default value). In particular, if one of these two values doesn't explicitly exist in the file, it doesn't mean that the display dimensions are invalid. The value that really exists in the file mustn't be discarded and overwritten just because the other one doesn't explicitly exist in the file. The value that doesn't explicitly exists must of course be set to its default value.

The situation changes if DisplayUnit is not 0. Then there is no default value, so that the display dimensions are only valid if both components are >0. If one of them is =0 or missing, both are invalid and a sensible choice is to act as if both DisplayUnit as well as DisplayWidth and DisplayHeight were set to their default values. My code above does this:

if (DisplayUnit && !(DisplayWidth && DisplayHeight)) {
DisplayWidth.Set(0);
DisplayHeight.Set(0);
DisplayUnit.Set(0);
}

if (!DisplayWidth) {
DisplayWidth.Set(PixelWidth - VideoPixelCropLeft - VideoPixelCropRight);
}

if (!DisplayHeight) {
DisplayHeight.Set(PixelHeight - VideoPixelCropTop - VideoPixelCropBottom);
}


Thanks for investing so much time in this.

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
New test build - https://yadi.sk/d/aLkiOjvFW7UuxQ
I individually check display dimensions.

[mkver]

Very good! Works as expected. You also added safeguards against the case VideoPixelCropLeft + VideoPixelCropRight >= PixelWidth, but you didn't really seem to care about DisplayUnit. Am I right?

Thanks a lot.

[Aleksoid1978]

I check DisplayUnit.

[mkver]

Really? Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fpqny6jnvo6gfuz/Anamorphic.DisplayHeight.missing.DisplayUnit.2.mkv?dl=0) is a file with pixel dimensions 640x720 with 80 pixels black bars on top and bottom. Of course there are corresponding VideoCrop* elements. The DisplayWidth is 1280 and the DisplayUnit is 2; DisplayHeight does not explicitly exist. Because DisplayUnit 2, no default value for DisplayHeight exists and hence no value at all exists for DisplayHeights. In other words, the display dimensions are invalid. What I would have expected (and what my code would have done) is act as if DisplayUnit was 0 and as if the display dimensions coincided with the default display dimensions (for DisplayUnit) which would have resulted in 640x560 output. But the new build instead crops the video as usual and uses an display aspect ratio of 16:7 just as if DisplayUnit were 0.

[Klaus1189]

I updated to Win10 1809 x64 (fresh install) and MPC-BE is working just fine :)

[Aleksoid1978]

I updated to Win10 1809 x64 (fresh install) and MPC-BE is working just fine :)

I know :)

[Grimsdyke]

@ Klaus1189 - one cosmetic thing.
When you have the time can you check the German text under 'Audio Processing' ? The 'Surround level' is shifted to the right by two letters - so the end bracket and the asterisk is cut off by the slider.
When displayed in Englisch it is just the other way around !! The 'Center Level' is shifted to the right so that both lines end vertically at the same point before the sliders.

[Klaus1189]

Thank you for the info Grimsdyke. I never adjusted the sliders. In latest translation file revs of german and english, I copied the strings:
"Center level (%+.1f dB)"
"Center Pegel (%+.1f dB)"
"Surround level (%+.1f dB)"
"Surround Pegel (%+.1f dB)"

But the jump to the right of Sourround Pegel which causes the cut off, is very strange.
I use 200% scaling of my desktop and used r4017 Nightly when I made the video with my Camcorder. Here you can see the jump:
1.) german translation jump to the right: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OhUXkgfCGYof1DlToPg_Za7oKF7hHnBr/view?usp=sharing
2.) english translation looks fine to me with 200%: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14L0iRCQ-okPKzedsnx3XsiEFzyc1V-YM/view?usp=sharing

@devs please help me, since the german string is "longer" depends on font which is not a Monospaced font, I think the sliders must be moved a bit to the right, is it?

[steakhutzeee]

Hello, i have three questions:

1- Before i used to download the nightly builds and in mpc the release resulted as Beta. I asked here and it was ok this way. I was on the .3968 that's the latest on yandex. Now i downloaded the beta .3973 from videohelp.
Now, something changed in the nomenclature? I mean, i did it right going from the nightly .3968 to the beta .3973, or i have screwed up my installation? As i can see latest nightly now is the .4016, but maybe as said is the nomenclature that's changed. Or maybe i'm having big confusion.

2- As stated before, as i can see if i change 'styles' on the fly for subs, this works correctly.

If i tweak the 'predefined style' and then select it so i use it for all the videos, i see that the subs is not loaded correctly, i mean, the tags are ignored, like italic etc.

Why this? can i solve?

3- Could be possible to have more information on how the Audio Boost works? Level i think is the "volume" i want, but what is Release time?

Hope it's clear, my first question is a little complex, tried to be much clear as possible.

Thanks for your time! :)

[ryrynz]

Beta is just a label put on a particular build. Personally I'd recommend using the nightlies if you're okay with the odd bug but then some bugs are fixed over the beta anyway.

[steakhutzeee]

Beta is just a label put on a particular build. Personally I'd recommend using the nightlies if you're okay with the odd bug but then some bugs are fixed over the beta anyway.

Good! Updated just now to the lates nightly, the .4018, that appear as Beta in the info inside mpc-be.
Hope this is the right way to do it, simply install over my previous installation, stable or beta.

Any idea about the other two questions?

Thanks!

[Klaus1189]

2- As stated before, as i can see if i change 'styles' on the fly for subs, this works correctly.

If i tweak the 'predefined style' and then select it so i use it for all the videos, i see that the subs is not loaded correctly, i mean, the tags are ignored, like italic etc.

Why this? can i solve?

Seems like it is fixed in r3986 according to commit browser:
Menu Subtitles->Advanced->Styles.. doesn't work. I use build 3984. Regards.

Confirm - thank you.

P.S. Fixed.

Try again with installed nightly build r4018 ;)

[steakhutzeee]

Seems like it is fixed in r3986 according to commit browser:




Try again with installed nightly build r4018 ;)

Tried just now, it does not work. I use Subtitles>Advanced>predefined style.

The subs are normal, and don't look if a string is italic etc.

If i change on the fly the setting and don't use the predefined but just the style options, italic works fine.

This can be easly reproduced if u want to try.

[Klaus1189]

Hmm, for me it works, upload a sample so I can test that also.

[steakhutzeee]

Hmm, for me it works, upload a sample so I can test that also.

Here is my settings, if i uncheck the predefined style, it works.
This way it does not.

https://i.postimg.cc/yWykvSnw/subs.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yWykvSnw)

Uploaded sample sub as .txt, just need to rename it back to .srt.

Here is my configuration for the predefined style. Maybe mpc just read the Normal and output all the subs that way?

https://i.postimg.cc/V0JsfdQF/subs2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/V0JsfdQF)

[Klaus1189]

"Attachments Pending Approval" I can not download it. Upload it on Google drive or similar. I also tested a video with six external srt sub files. working fine here. Try to reset to default settings and configure it new. Perhaps this helps.

[steakhutzeee]

"Attachments Pending Approval" I can not download it. Upload it on Google drive or similar. I also tested a video with six external srt sub files. working fine here. Try to reset to default settings and configure it new. Perhaps this helps.

This is strange, here is: https://www12.zippyshare.com/v/uO8nmJIi/file.html

EDIT: Tried the Reset in the subs section, tried to load the subtitle with default settings. Same issue :(

[Klaus1189]

I meant the complete reset of MPC-BE on last page in options.

[Klaus1189]

If I select "italic" in options, the subtitle is displayed correctly, and similar, working fine here, so I think the reset of settings will help ;)

[steakhutzeee]

I meant the complete reset of MPC-BE on last page in options.

Did this too just now. Does not work.
I have to simply to use Styles to see italic, bold, etc.
If i check default style, i only see an unformatted text.

[Klaus1189]

To be sure, this is what it looks like here if I use italic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aIrAvs1ByUyF9LKWhbp8Ri_lA59tiuTw/view?usp=sharing

[steakhutzeee]

To be sure, this is what it looks like here if I use italic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aIrAvs1ByUyF9LKWhbp8Ri_lA59tiuTw/view?usp=sharing

To this point i don't know what's happening :confused:

Could you please make the same screenshots i made?

[Klaus1189]

the first is already in #5733
the second is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zyzWg6DJdcxj_x6XB_T13iVwszXQ2dJt/view?usp=sharing
As already stated I selected italic for testing purposes.

[steakhutzeee]

the first is already in #5733
the second is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zyzWg6DJdcxj_x6XB_T13iVwszXQ2dJt/view?usp=sharing
As already stated I selected italic for testing purposes.

So the fact you selected italic is not important to this test?
What happens if you select Standard?

[Klaus1189]

Already in #5733 I was asking myself if I did get it right. Sorry my bad.
The srt file you uploaded, contains an italic sequence, which should be displayed italic while there is "Standard"/"Default" selected in options.
But if you select "Default Style" in advanced subtitle right click menu, the italic formatting in srt file is ignored which should be right, because if you use englisch or german language the selected feature states that it uses Default style which overrides any formatting like italic in srt file.

[steakhutzeee]

Already in #5733 I was asking myself if I did get it right. Sorry my bad.
The srt file you uploaded, contains an italic sequence, which should be displayed italic while there is "Standard"/"Default" selected in options.
But if you select "Default Style" in advanced subtitle right click menu, the italic formatting in srt file is ignored which should be right, because if you use englisch or german language the selected feature states that it uses Default style which overrides any formatting like italic in srt file.

Exactly, so the only thing possible is to not use "Predefinied Style". Am i right?

[Klaus1189]

IMHO yes, I never used that feature before today.

@devs: correct me if, I am wrong.


I tested today @100% scaling same issue like in 200%:
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1854024&postcount=5720
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OhUXkgfCGYof1DlToPg_Za7oKF7hHnBr/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14L0iRCQ-okPKzedsnx3XsiEFzyc1V-YM/view?usp=sharing

Can you reproduce that issue?

[v0lt]

Klaus1189
I think there is not enough space for it and therefore the last characters are removed to a space.
Perhaps after r4024 this problem will not be.

[Grimsdyke]

Seem to have been fixed in 4024 and 4025. Thx !!
Now if it also could get fixed that MPC-BE automatically assumes that the content with the longest duration is also the main feature then I would be a happy camper.

All the best

[Klaus1189]

Yes, I can confirm, it is fixed.
Thank you v0lt :)

[steakhutzeee]

IMHO yes, I never used that feature before today.

@devs: correct me if, I am wrong.

Thank you :D

[steakhutzeee]

Asked this question in the past. Try again now bacause maybe something changed :D

There is chance to reproduce a bluray with mpc-be? Files with structure: BDMV/CERTIFICATE/etc.?

Thanks!

[Aleksoid1978]

Open BD support, but without menu.

[steakhutzeee]

Open BD support, but without menu.Thanks! So if I have a BluRay with all those folders, what the file I have to start?

I can select audio and subs track the usual way I think right?

And how to access the extras?

Thanks for your time :)

[ryrynz]

File -> Open DVD/Blu-ray
Navigate to BDMV directory, 'select folder' button.

[BetA13]

hy,

just a quick question:

https://i.imgur.com/tif7FFP.png

second Line from Bottom, "Dither", is this a new option? it wasnt there before i updated.. Where can i control it?

THX and greetings...

[v0lt]

@BetA13
This is not an option; it is processing the image while reducing the bit depth. It was always (in MPC-HC is also the same).

[Klaus1189]

You selected 16-bit Floating Point here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gDdtKB1ll2pHhxPyuckhPG1w9XyXoCh0/view?usp=sharing), at 8-bit Integer or 10-bit Integer it's disabled.

[BetA13]

@BetA13
This is not an option; it is processing the image while reducing the bit depth. It was always (in MPC-HC is also the same).

You selected 16-bit Floating Point here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gDdtKB1ll2pHhxPyuckhPG1w9XyXoCh0/view?usp=sharing), at 8-bit Integer or 10-bit Integer it's disabled.


:thanks:

now i understand, Danke Klaus :)
So teh OSD now shows this info, didnt do it before, and i know its a dummy question but, isnt a higher floating point better?
Or should i set it to 10? Lets say for best quality..?

Thanks a lot guys..:D

[v0lt]

@BetA13
If you do not see positive differences, then it will be better not to change anything in the settings.

[BetA13]

Thanks for the reply :)

i did test around a bit and to me, 16bit does look better.. in some scenes, expecially animated cartoons etc, the banding is less then with 8bit.
So, i leave it at 16bit for now since it looks better to my eyes..

Thank you for the help...

have a nice evening guys..

[alex1399]

Hi,guys. I've found some MP4 container with a text track in Timed Text Format, sbtl Muxing mode, tx3g Codec ID,Default and not Forced. The timestamps seems to be messed up in MPC-BE, so I convert it into ass format. The playback is perfect. Then, I add the LAV Splitter Source in external filter to replace MPC MP4/MOV Source. The playback is perfect, too.
Is sample clip required for more investigation?

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi,guys. I've found some MP4 container with a text track in Timed Text Format, sbtl Muxing mode, tx3g Codec ID,Default and not Forced. The timestamps seems to be messed up in MPC-BE, so I convert it into ass format. The playback is perfect. Then, I add the LAV Splitter Source in external filter to replace MPC MP4/MOV Source. The playback is perfect, too.
Is sample clip required for more investigation?

Yes - upload same samples for test.

[alex1399]

Here it goes. https://www110.zippyshare.com/v/oQdqXxYz/file.html
The wrong situation is that some subtitles disappeared suddenly, some subtitles prolong too much, and others strange just like the sample clip.

[Aleksoid1978]

Ok, thanks.

[Aleksoid1978]

alex1399
Who say then LAV Source/ffmpeg/libavfilter correctly handle text subtitles in MOV/MP4 ? As i see - it's ignore sample duration and calculate : sample end time = next sample start time. I think it's incorrect. Internal Source use sample start time + duration to calculate end time.

[sneaker_ger]

But ffmpeg is correct, isn't it?
[stts: Decoding Time to Sample Box]
position = 3175014
size = 80
version = 0
flags = 0x000000
entry_count = 8
entry[0]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 33334
entry[1]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 3934000
entry[2]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 1466000
entry[3]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 2300000
entry[4]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 600000
entry[5]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 3360000
entry[6]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 3300000
entry[7]
sample_count = 1
sample_delta = 0
[stsc: Sample To Chunk Box]
position = 3175094
size = 28
version = 0
flags = 0x000000
entry_count = 1
entry[0]
first_chunk = 1
samples_per_chunk = 1
sample_description_index = 1
[stsz: Sample Size Box]
position = 3175122
size = 52
version = 0
flags = 0x000000
sample_size = 0 (variable)
sample_count = 8
entry_size[0] = 2
entry_size[1] = 2
entry_size[2] = 11
entry_size[3] = 41
entry_size[4] = 2
entry_size[5] = 47
entry_size[6] = 44
entry_size[7] = 2

https://i.imgur.com/g8a2zEd.png

I think it's a regression. Didn't happen with older MPC-BE. (Of course I just overwrote my old MPC-BE with the new nightly without writing down the revision. :o )

/edit:
At least 1.5.1 (build 2985) doesn't have the problem.

[alex1399]

I see, there are something tricky in the ffmpeg conversion. It should be four dialogs in the clip, but turns out to have 8 chunks. The four dialogs are:00:00:03,934 --> 00:00:05,400, 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,700, 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:11,660, and 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:14,960.
Please read the subtitle packets info of the uncut video here https://www21.zippyshare.com/v/18bGYCpZ/file.html.

Despite that additional 0.033334 packets, the mov_text in ffmpeg simply adds many dummy packets so that each packet's end time = next packet's start time and each packet's start time + duration time = end time.

The start time is valid. The duration of each packet is ignored by LAV spliiter. I agree that the end time should be more robust against the case that next sample start time is larger than or not equal to current sample end time. If MPC-BE have worked well, maybe the duration handler of MP4/MOV Source was altered in the current version.

People using other player are complaining, too. I definitely need more information whether it is ffmpeg fault or not.

[Aleksoid1978]

alex1399
I found a mistake in code. Wait a fix.

[alex1399]

Thank you

[Razoola]

I was trying to watch a NFL game last night useing the aceplayer stream option in MPC-BE. I had just installed the 4053 nightly build. However it just would not work and play the stream (error file not found reported after a few seconds in the players status bar). After going back to released build of MPC-BE (1.5.1) aceplayer started working. I did notice however that even with this version audio and video would go out of sync the longer a stream played. The stream worked fine using the player that comes with acestream.

This is the first time I have tried to use MPC-BE to play acestreams and wondered if both of these issues are known in MPC-BE?

[Aleksoid1978]

Try to increase "cashe time" in Acestream. Give me a link - i test.

[Razoola]

Try to increase "cashe time" in Acestream. Give me a link - i test.

The stream is no longer available but here is another that will go out of sync. It seems to happen if the video glitches. It does not auto correct itsself back into sync.
acestream://7f12cca406cf461596bad8478915cadb96b48960

[Aleksoid1978]

The stream is no longer available but here is another that will go out of sync. It seems to happen if the video glitches. It does not auto correct itsself back into sync.
acestream://7f12cca406cf461596bad8478915cadb96b48960

Perfect playback and A/V sync.

[Razoola]

Perfect playback and A/V sync.

Can I just ask if you are using LAV for video and audio and if so what version? Just wondering if my issue is there.

[huhn]

maybe try the internal filter first. i mean this is the mpc-be thread not the lavfilter thread.

[Aleksoid1978]

I always use only internal filters. If bug using LAV - you are wrong thread :)

[mkver]

I have another bug report for you. I hope you can understand me (I unfortunately don't speak Russian); if not, just ask for more information.

a) Summary: I have been experiencing a strange phenomenon with subtitles in Matroska: Sometimes they are displayed twice after seeking:
https://i.imgur.com/kF80RDHl.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/kF80RDH.jpg)
I looked into this and it seems that this happens if and only if (i) in order to decode the video, one has to seek to the very cluster that the subtitle block is in and (ii) the subtitles should be shown during the point in time to which one seeks (but of course they should only be shown once) and (iii) the subtitles have a timestamp that is lower than the cluster timestamp of the cluster that contains the video block that is being seeked to (by "video block that is being seeked to" I don't mean the actual frame the user wants, but the keyframe that is being seeked to in order to get the actual frame the user wants). Here is mkvinfo's output for a situation in which this can happen (Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6cegn45f2t62ri/Double.Subtitles.mkv?dl=0) is the sample):

...
|+ Cluster at 9820991
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:10.447000000 at 9821009
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.447000000 at 9821013
| + Frame with size 180180 at 9821021
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.270000000 at 10001201
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10001208
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.367000000 at 10003000
| + Frame with size 12088 at 10003007
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.302000000 at 10015095
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10015102
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.307000000 at 10016894
| + Frame with size 1641 at 10016901
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.327000000 at 10018542
| + Frame with size 4069 at 10018549
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.334000000 at 10022618
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10022625
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.347000000 at 10024417
| + Frame with size 3790 at 10024424
| + Block group at 10028214
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.350000000 at 10028216
| + Frame with size 25 at 10028222
| + Block duration: 00:00:01.680000000 at 10028247
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.366000000 at 10028251
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10028258
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.387000000 at 10030050
| + Frame with size 1158 at 10030057

As can be seen, the subtitle (track 3) has a lower timestamp than the cluster timestamp. If one seeks to the keyframe at 10.447s, the subtitle at 10.35s is displayed twice.

b) I don't know your seeking code, but I guess that you look in the cues for the cluster that contains the video keyframe that needs to be seeked to and you also search the cues for subtitles that should be displayed at the intended time. Then you seek to that cluster, look at its cluster timestamp and if its bigger than the timestamp of one of the subtitles that should be displayed, you seek another time to the subtitle block referenced in the cues. If one does this with the example above and seeks to 10.447s, the subtitle block at 10.35s is found during the normal seeking operation, but it is also found a second time during the deliberate seeking to the subtitles, hence it is displayed twice.

c) It seems to me that when you ignore the CueRelativePosition element when it is inside a cue entry for a video track; instead, you always seek to the beginning of the cluster that is referenced and start processing from said beginning. But for subtitle blocks you use this element. Is this true? I tested it with files in which I have manually changed the CueRelativePosition: Nothing was affected when I changed the CueRelativePosition element of a video entry, but subtitles didn't work upon seeking when setting CueRelativePosition to an incorrect value. If I am right, then the following procedure should produce better results: When you seek you parse the cues, and seek to the cluster containing the video keyframe that is required for decoding the desired frame (i.e. the cluster containing the keyframe with the highest timestamp that is <= the desired timestamp). If the cues indicate that there is a subtitle element that should be displayed during the desired time and said subtitle block is in a cluster before the cluster containing the video keyframe that has just been seeked to then one does a second seek to retrieve the subtitles. If the subtitle block is in or after the cluster that we have already seeked to, then this subtitle element will be read anyway during the normal course of reading the file.
(If the subtitles are wrongly interleaved (i.e. subtitles destined to be shown at 1m interleaved with video and audio with timestamps 2m, then it might happen that the current seeking procedure will work with these files, but the proposed one won't. But such files should be considered broken anyway, whereas the files I'm just talking about are not.)

d) If you are wondering why the files are interleaved like that: They have been created by ffmpeg and ffmpeg doesn't interleave by pts, but by dts. And it also doesn't try to avoid negative relative timestamp offsets in the Matroska (Simple)Blocks, it simply uses the timestamp of the first (Simple)Block it intends to put into the cluster as cluster timestamp. Therefore situations like under a) can and do happen.

e) If you are wondering how I came to the conclusion from b): The sample (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6cegn45f2t62ri/Double.Subtitles.mkv?dl=0) I already linked to in a) has two points where subtitles appear doubled: At about 10s (I quoted mkvinfo's output of this part in a)) and at about 17s:

|+ Cluster at 14810224
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:17.487000000 at 14810242
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.487000000 at 14810246
| + Frame with size 187790 at 14810254
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.310000000 at 14998044
| + Frame with size 1792 at 14998051
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.407000000 at 14999843
| + Frame with size 11750 at 14999850
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.342000000 at 15011600
| + Frame with size 1792 at 15011607
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.347000000 at 15013399
| + Frame with size 1645 at 15013406
| + Block group at 15015051
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.350000000 at 15015053
| + Frame with size 66 at 15015059
| + Block duration: 00:00:03.200000000 at 15015125
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.367000000 at 15015129
| + Frame with size 3113 at 15015136
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.374000000 at 15018249
| + Frame with size 1792 at 15018256
Based on these two examples, my first guess was that it is the fact that the video keyframe has a pts that is bigger than the pts of the subtitle block that is later in the file that is causing this (i.e. I thought that MPC-BE seeks to the necessary video keyframe and to any earlier subtitle block referenced in the cues that is to be shown during the desired frame). But this is not true, as the file has numerous other clusters where this happens, but without the subtitles being shown doubled (at about 2s, at about 5s, at about 49.5s and at about 55.9s). Here are two examples:

|+ Cluster at 4480132
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:05.022000000 at 4480150
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.022000000 at 4480154
| + Frame with size 1792 at 4480161
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.207000000 at 4481953
| + Frame with size 121487 at 4481961
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.127000000 at 4603448
| + Frame with size 31586 at 4603456
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.054000000 at 4635042
| + Frame with size 1792 at 4635049
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.067000000 at 4636841
| + Frame with size 2248 at 4636848
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.086000000 at 4639096
| + Frame with size 1792 at 4639103
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.087000000 at 4640895
| + Frame with size 11625 at 4640902
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.107000000 at 4652527
| + Frame with size 10840 at 4652534
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.118000000 at 4663374
| + Frame with size 1792 at 4663381
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.147000000 at 4665173
| + Frame with size 960 at 4665180
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.167000000 at 4666140
| + Frame with size 11822 at 4666147
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.150000000 at 4677969
| + Frame with size 1792 at 4677976
| + Block group at 4679768
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.150000000 at 4679770
| + Frame with size 26 at 4679776
| + Block duration: 00:00:01.720000000 at 4679802
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.187000000 at 4679806
| + Frame with size 11151 at 4679813


|+ Cluster at 49051320
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:55.742000000 at 49051338
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:55.742000000 at 49051342
| + Frame with size 1792 at 49051349
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:55.927000000 at 49053141
| + Frame with size 181308 at 49053149
| + Block group at 49234457
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:55.750000000 at 49234459
| + Frame with size 47 at 49234465
| + Block duration: 00:00:02.280000000 at 49234512
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:55.847000000 at 49234516
| + Frame with size 16523 at 49234524
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:55.774000000 at 49251047
| + Frame with size 1792 at 49251054

The four counterexamples have all two things in common:
(i) The clusters start with an audio block whose timestamp is lower than the timestamp of the subtitle block contained in the cluster.
(ii) The cluster timestamp is lower than the timestamp of the subtitle block contained in the cluster (in fact, the cluster timestamp always coincides with the timestamp of the first block contained in it).

In order to find out which of the two alternatives it is I have voided (i.e. using the 0xEC element that Matroska has to reserve space) the audio blocks (including the track header for the track) the audio blocks. Here's a part of mkvinfo's report for the resulting file:

|+ Cluster at 4480132
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:05.022000000 at 4480150
| + EBML void: size 1796 at 4480154
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.207000000 at 4481953
| + Frame with size 121487 at 4481961
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.127000000 at 4603448
| + Frame with size 31586 at 4603456
| + EBML void: size 1796 at 4635042
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.067000000 at 4636841
| + Frame with size 2248 at 4636848
| + EBML void: size 1796 at 4639096
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.087000000 at 4640895
| + Frame with size 11625 at 4640902
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.107000000 at 4652527
| + Frame with size 10840 at 4652534
| + EBML void: size 1796 at 4663374
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.147000000 at 4665173
| + Frame with size 960 at 4665180
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.167000000 at 4666140
| + Frame with size 11822 at 4666147
| + EBML void: size 1796 at 4677969
| + Block group at 4679768
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.150000000 at 4679770
| + Frame with size 26 at 4679776
| + Block duration: 00:00:01.720000000 at 4679802
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.187000000 at 4679806
| + Frame with size 11151 at 4679813

Even for this modified file only the two places at 10s and 17s showed double subtitles. This rules the possibility (i) out.

In order to test whether it is really (ii) I have remuxed the file (again with ffmpeg) without the audio track. The resulting file looks like this:

|+ Cluster at 4199358
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:05.207000000 at 4199376
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.207000000 at 4199380
| + Frame with size 121487 at 4199388
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.127000000 at 4320875
| + Frame with size 31586 at 4320883
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.067000000 at 4352469
| + Frame with size 2248 at 4352476
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.087000000 at 4354724
| + Frame with size 11625 at 4354731
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.107000000 at 4366356
| + Frame with size 10840 at 4366363
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.147000000 at 4377203
| + Frame with size 960 at 4377210
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.167000000 at 4378170
| + Frame with size 11822 at 4378177
| + Block group at 4389999
| + Block: track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.150000000 at 4390001
| + Frame with size 26 at 4390007
| + Block duration: 00:00:01.720000000 at 4390033
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:05.187000000 at 4390037
| + Frame with size 11151 at 4390044

Notice that the cluster timestamp has changed because there is no audio track any more. This time, all the six places where there are subtitle blocks with lower pts muxed after video keyframes with higher pts showed doubled subtitles. This confirms (ii).

f) This bug is about duplicated subtitles showing up in some places. But if I pause the video and seek from keyframe to keyframe (back and forth), it is not uncommon for subtitles to not appear directly after the seek even though they should. If I later seek to the very same keyframe again, the subtitles show up. I don't know why. I don't even know if this problem is unique to me. I just tell you this so that you aren't surprised if you experience the same issue.

[alex1399]

TLTR, too much information ~
Please use simple English for conversation

I can reproduce it. The dialog "Aber das ist voll gemein," appeared twice during specific operation: (1) playback until 11.5 sec (2) seek back to 11sec.

[mkver]

Under certain circumstances subtitles are displayed twice. These circumstances are: If a cluster contains both a video keyframe as first video block and furthermore a subtitle block is contained in the cluster and if the subtitle block has a timestamp smaller than the cluster timestamp, then the subtitle block will be displayed twice when one seeks to the video keyframe.
The reason seems to be: MPC-BE seeks to the block containing the video keyframe, looks at the cluster timestamp and if the cluster timestamp is higher than the timestamp of the subtitle block (the timestamp of the subtitle block is already known from the cues), then it falsely presumes that it has to seek to the subtitle block in order to get the subtitle block, because it simply presumes based upon the timestamps that the subtitle block was interleaved earlier. Therefore it reads the subtitle block twice: Once during the deliberate seek to the subtitle block and once during the normaling reading of the cluster the video keyframe is in. Therefore MPC-BE displays the subtitle block twice.
Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6cegn45f2t62ri/Double.Subtitles.mkv?dl=0) is a sample; the two points were this happens are at about 10.4s and at about 17.4s. The cluster at 17.4s looks like this:
|+ Cluster at 14810224
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:17.487000000 at 14810242
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.487000000 at 14810246
| + Frame with size 187790 at 14810254
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.310000000 at 14998044
| + Frame with size 1792 at 14998051
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.407000000 at 14999843
| + Frame with size 11750 at 14999850
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.342000000 at 15011600
| + Frame with size 1792 at 15011607
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.347000000 at 15013399
| + Frame with size 1645 at 15013406
| + Block group at 15015051
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.350000000 at 15015053
| + Frame with size 66 at 15015059
| + Block duration: 00:00:03.200000000 at 15015125
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.367000000 at 15015129
| + Frame with size 3113 at 15015136
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:17.374000000 at 15018249
| + Frame with size 1792 at 15018256

This file has been produced by ffmpeg and ffmpeg interleaves by dts, not pts. Therefore the file looks the way it does.

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/MxiYP2HXvWCOJQ

[mclingo]

i dont think MPC-BE is summing audio channels correctly. I have 5.1.2, two front, two rear, center and sub plus two ATMOS front heights. MPC-BE using internal filters is summing my ATMOS heights to front left and right, if I use latest external LAV filters all is ok.

[Aleksoid1978]

5.1.2 PCM output don't support by Windows, it's not standart channel layout. If you bitstream track with Atmos extension - all audio handling do A/V reciver.

[mkver]

mkver
Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/MxiYP2HXvWCOJQ
Many thanks for this prompt update. Much appreciated. This test build is indeed an improvement and the sample I uploaded earlier works fine with it. But I have remuxed the file and used smaller clusters this time so that the file layout looks like this:

|+ Cluster at 9821804
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:10.417000000 at 9821822
| + Simple block: key, track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.417000000 at 9821826
| + Frame with size 180180 at 9821834
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.240000000 at 10002014
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10002021
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.337000000 at 10003813
| + Frame with size 12088 at 10003820
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.272000000 at 10015908
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10015915
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.277000000 at 10017707
| + Frame with size 1641 at 10017714
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.297000000 at 10019355
| + Frame with size 4069 at 10019362
|+ Cluster at 10023431
| + Cluster timestamp: 00:00:10.304000000 at 10023449
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.304000000 at 10023453
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10023460
| + Simple block: track number 1, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.317000000 at 10025252
| + Frame with size 3790 at 10025259
| + Block group at 10029049
| + Block: track number 3, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.320000000 at 10029051
| + Frame with size 25 at 10029057
| + Block duration: 00:00:01.680000000 at 10029082
| + Simple block: key, track number 2, 1 frame(s), timestamp 00:00:10.336000000 at 10029086
| + Frame with size 1792 at 10029093

This time the subtitle block is in the cluster after the cluster with the keyframe that has a higher timestamp than the subtitle block. And in this situation one has double subtitles again. Seeking to the intervall from 10.5s to 11s or from 17.5s to 18s shows it.
Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq1zu90yrjqrnpp/Double.Subtitles.Small.Clusters.mkv?dl=0) is the file.

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
Thanks for samples.

Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/ai6hM8QGJA0yIQ

[mclingo]

5.1.2 PCM output don't support by Windows, it's not standart channel layout. If you bitstream track with Atmos extension - all audio handling do A/V reciver.

that might be it, i reinstalled BE recently and might have fogotten to turn on bitstream, cheers.

[mkver]

mkver
Thanks for samples.

Test build - https://yadi.sk/d/ai6hM8QGJA0yIQ
This works really well. It fixes the issue and I have found no negative side-effects. Thanks for it!

[Grimsdyke]

2) There is a German label which unfortunately names all their BluRays with the companys name. No matter which film the discs are named ANOLIS FILM ENTERTAINMENT.
I have several external audio files there and unfortunately they are ALL loaded even when not meant for that movie and that causes handling problems for my somewhat weak system !!
So I was wondering if you could not add a check for, say, the time stamp of the bdmv-folder ?
For example: ANOLIS FILM ENTERTAINMENT.[10.03.2014]. Mole People - Mick Garris Audio commentary.ac3
This would make sure that only that file is loaded and not also the audio commentary for, say, 'Monolith Monsters', etc.

I am not sure if this feature worked just coincidentally so nice or maybe Microsoft changed something !! However it seem to be broken now.
Autoload-external-audio only works now if the audio is named like the disc itself.
But this leads to problems as described above when commentary-tracks are loaded even if there are not meant for that movie !!
Can you maybe look into this again ? Thx !!

[mclingo]

Hi, i've mentioned this a few times on here but never got a good answer or explanation as to whats going on.

When I start a movie with BE often there is a 10-20 second wait before you can skip, go to full screen or do anything without BE crashing, its like its buffering or something. Same movie starts and plays straight away on MPC-HC with identical settings regardless of whether i'm using internal or external filters, PCM or bitstreaming, MADVR or internal renderer.

What gives?

I've also noticed that recent version just wont work very well with MVC 3D at all using MADVR, sometimes I just get black screen and nothing, sometimes it plays top left corner of screen, sometimes I get HDMI loss, very unstable compare to MPC-HC, again with same external filter settings.

[mkver]

I'm not a developer, but I think that they will want a bit more information from you:
Does the movie actually start playing right away with MPC-BE and is it just skipping/going to full screen that makes it crash when done at the beginning or does the movie actually take that long to start playing?
Does it just happen from time to time or does it happen reliably with the same files? Did you check whether it worked with MPC-HC after you tried MPC-BE and found out that it failed? (The reason for this question is that the OS has then probably cached the file that you want to read so that reading it a second time should be faster as it is from memory.)
What container format is it and what tracks are in the container? (A mediainfo would be nice, a sample that allows to reliably reproduce it even better.)

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BWDt77wcVRd-RL5YRKhFFCVVgOQ5INAH/view?usp=sharing) :)

To check the length of the new translation, where is

STRING IDS_RECORD_START "Aufnahme"
STRING IDS_RECORD_STOP "Stopp"

in GUI?

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
This is the translation for the button in the capture settings.
http://jpegshare.net/thumbs/33/60/3360306d99f6307a8eb1c851e2e4d380.jpg (http://jpegshare.net/33/60/3360306d99f6307a8eb1c851e2e4d380.png.html)

[beter]

Update for translation

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4rup10

[v0lt]

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r4082.
You can also look at r4081 (https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/4081/).

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U61VjQ-7a7OKyidSlM1F1oTamBVYpLay/view?usp=sharing) :)
"Randomize the playlist"

[mkver]

I have just found out that MPC-BE is able to display teletext subtitles as text (and not in the rather ugly way teletext subtitles are usually shown). Great feature! But I think I have found three bugs; or rather two bugs in the teletext specific code and one limitation that may or may not be intentional:

1. The teletext specifications (https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_i_ets/300700_300799/300706/01_60/ets_300706e01p.pdf) state in paragraph 12.2 that the colour attributes only extend until they are replaced by another colour attribute or the beginning of a new line/row. At the beginning of a line/row, "Alpha White" is the default. MPC-BE currently ignores this. Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lqyllcrvx3zlk7u/End.of.Row.Sample.ts?dl=0) is a sample. This matters with the first two subtitles of this sample. These screenshots show VLC at the left, MPC-BE with teletext subtitles in the middle and the DVBSUB subtitles (with MPC-BE) on the right:
https://i.imgur.com/WSwqVVMm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/WSwqVVM.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/HCyJdF5m.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/HCyJdF5.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/pbTEh6im.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/pbTEh6i.jpg)

2. Section 12.2 of the standard also says that "unless operating in "Hold Mosaics" mode, each character space occupied by a spacing attribute is displayed as a SPACE." As far as I know, there is no reason to use mosaics in subtitles, so one can ignore this case. The bottom line is that e.g. the colour codes should not only affect the colours, but should also be displayed as a SPACE. Otherwise things like in the middle picures here can happen (left VLC, middle MPC-BE teletext, right MPC-BE DVBSUB):
https://i.imgur.com/FrthC3hm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/FrthC3h.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/VmdjdSFm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/VmdjdSF.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/4WKPIjem.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/4WKPIje.jpg)
https://i.imgur.com/W84jTSJm.png (https://i.imgur.com/W84jTSJ.png) https://i.imgur.com/SLCHFCHm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/SLCHFCH.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/nH9JQPym.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/nH9JQPy.jpg)
https://i.imgur.com/WQgKz0Um.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/WQgKz0U.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/dT2Z5yEm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/dT2Z5yE.jpg) https://i.imgur.com/8LkWWRcm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/8LkWWRc.jpg)
The samples are here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd7k0ajiattggzm/Missing.Space.ts?dl=0), here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfbfzfqjadc8d9s/Missing.Space.2.ts?dl=0) and here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qj31ix7cj2bswro/Missing.Space.3.ts?dl=0).
(By the way: You seem to have common ancestry with the ccextractor teletext module: It had this bug (https://github.com/CCExtractor/ccextractor/pull/930), too.)

3. As you might have already observed from the samples from 2., teletext subtitles and also other subtitles more generally sometimes contain leading whitespace for purposes of horizontal alignment. It seems that MPC-BE strips this away (not only when the subtitles originated from teletext). Would it be possible to add an option to respect the horizontal alignment?

[Aleksoid1978]

mkver
Thanks for testing and info.
1/2 - Fixed.
3 - it's text subtitles module limitation - trim all space.

[ryrynz]

WMAudio Decoder DMO has higher merit than LAV if I disable internal filters, it causes stuttering on seek and I must disable it in external filters so LAV decodes.
Is this merit set by MPC-BE? If so, can you place LAV with higher merit internally so there's no need to specify in BE to block it / add LAV Filters as Preferred? Thanks.

[Aleksoid1978]

WMAudio Decoder DMO has higher merit than LAV if I disable internal filters, it causes stuttering on seek and I must disable it in external filters so LAV decodes.
Is this merit set by MPC-BE? If so, can you place LAV with higher merit internally so there's no need to specify in BE to block it / add LAV Filters as Preferred? Thanks.

WMAudio Decoder DMO merit set by system. You ca manualy low it - use graphstudionext for it.

[Klaus1189]

I had to adjust one thing in translation. Now I like how it looks -> updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gc4BXGipz5pH7LyJfF92pSpOlcLt5e20/view?usp=sharing) :)

[hubi73]

Hi Klaus,
can you set [STRING IDS_PLAYLIST_REMOVE "Wiedergabeliste ent&fernen"] to something like "Aus Wiedergabeliste entfernen". Because it does not remove the playlist, it only removes one item from the playlist.

[JarrettH]

A new BE this month? :cool:

[Klaus1189]

hubi73
Done.

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WyZ_okfDAEjA82WdZY2dKGgKqLiC4dR8/view?usp=sharing)
I am also looking forward to a new stable release :)

[Grimsdyke]

I am not sure if this feature worked just coincidentally so nice or maybe Microsoft changed something !! However it seem to be broken now.
Autoload-external-audio only works now if the audio is named like the disc itself.
But this leads to problems as described above when commentary-tracks are loaded even if there are not meant for that movie !!
Can you maybe look into this again ? Thx !!

I don't know if it helps but I noticed that the informations for external audio are stored in the default.mpcpl, so after a simple re-start of the playback the external audio is still there !
But as soon as I re-load the disc it's gone and this happens even if I have activated write-protection for default.mpcpl !!

Oh by the way, I think it would be nice if BE would open directly the folder that I have specified for external audio in the settings.

[beter]

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r4082.
You can also look at r4081 (https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/4081/).
Update:)
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xxh7hg

[hubi73]

@Klaus Thank you.

@Aleksoid
Thanks a lot for fixing the occasional crashes that occurred during youtube-playback with external LAV-Splitter-Source. (For some weeks now the nightlies run stable under these circumstances.)

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189, @beter
Thank you!
Updated in r4092.

[Klaus1189]

It is incredible - you can check the translation so many times, you will find one little issue later. Sorry but I had to update again to correct an old typo. Thank you Grimsdyke
If you or anybody else finds any other typo(s) let me know, I'll fix them all ;)

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fzq7YHFY5g1Wj33ZgfV6Mc1-Cf4clY4j/view?usp=sharing)

[Klaus1189]

v0lt
Thank you for r4097, I am almost ready for stable release. Should be finished in some minutes... optimizing translation, it must be perfect ;) ...

[Klaus1189]

optimized translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xMRmB-FuRi1dGRDdsfPG-6M0rpOAyqM_/view?usp=sharing) for soon coming stable release :)

Now I don't annoy you anymore with so many small updates ;)

[hubi73]

With some Youtube clips there is a notable increase in volume control response time. (More than one second after hitting the arrow key or scrolling the mouse wheel.) At the moment I found only "Audio only" clips, but I will search further. Maybe there are video clips too.

Tested so far with v1.5.2.4102 and all internal filters and cross check with LAV Filters - both the same.

Clips with increased time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lw7Vy9dVBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90SPoNnWHj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKs01thUGUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ohR0xwrf8

In contrary here is an audio clip with normal response time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxvSVpIN7Ys

Edit: It seems madvr is responsible for that problem, with VMR9 the response times are normal.

Edit2: For some clarification: Not the volume change is delayed but only the OSD.
Besides I downloaded one of these clips and tried it out with some older versions of madvr and MPC-BE, it was always with the same result of a delayed OSD response.
Maybe this is only a madvr problem and madvr has some kind of a sleeping issue while it is displaying still images - I don't know.

[v0lt]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 4105) stable (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Release%20builds/1.5.2/)

MPC-BE 1.5.3 Nightly builds: main file store (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58), alternative (https://yadi.sk/d/r7JYQ2NjHvE4lA)
Also new and old versions can be found on VideoHelp.com (https://www.videohelp.com/software/MPC-BE).

[Aleksoid1978]

Edit2: For some clarification: Not the volume change is delayed but only the OSD.
Besides I downloaded one of these clips and tried it out with some older versions of madvr and MPC-BE, it was always with the same result of a delayed OSD response.
Maybe this is only a madvr problem and madvr has some kind of a sleeping issue while it is displaying still images - I don't know.

If OSD is delayed only with madVR - it's madVR faults.

[Zulithe]

Changelog in the OP is absolutely massive. Thanks for all the wonderful work.

[chros]

MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 4105) stable (https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/files/MPC-BE/Release%20builds/1.5.2/)
Thank You guys for your relentless, hard work! :)

[JNW]

Stable version has arrived! People kept asking for it over a certificate lol. I was more than happy using the nightlies. I keep up with the daily commits on the Sourceforge repository. A lot of work has gone in this last year. aleksoid , v0lt really top stuff and really appreciative. Just the best player right now. Thank you for your efforts :)

EDIT: I like when I open the player it's in widescreen. In celebration and in nerdy spirit lol of new stable I'm sharing modified logo :P :) https://imgur.com/pxwBJlx

[hubi73]

Yes, it is, as JNW says, just the best player right now. Thank you very much guys.

[Manni]

Just to add my thanks to the list, your hard work is much appreciated, MPC-BE is also my favorite player. Thanks a lot!

[JarrettH]

Added device buffer setting. Available values are "Default" (which gives the driver), 50 and 100 ms.

Thanks, this should help my USB DAC. Is there a way to find out what value my default is?

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16maGUeQ-5_yQ_yWuNzcPxqgMJr_t82ek/view?usp=sharing) for 1.5.3 :)

[Aleksoid1978]

Added device buffer setting. Available values are "Default" (which gives the driver), 50 and 100 ms.

Thanks, this should help my USB DAC. Is there a way to find out what value my default is?

Usually is 10 ms.

[chros]

I tested one thing for the last time both with the 2 test builds you made: mpc-be.exe.20180830, mpc-be.exe.20180912
- Only Wasapi Exclusive mode is affected! If I set it to Wasapi Shared mode then it works as it should.

@Aleksoid1978: BTW this issue is also fixed for me in 1.5.2! Thank You!

[Klaus1189]

I updated from r4113 to r4117 and encountered a little issue:
I have set Seek bar text in first options page to display Nothing, but when I close MPC-BE, open it again and play a file, it is set to display File name (else title or URL).
I switched back to r4113 which is fine.

[Aleksoid1978]

I updated from r4113 to r4117 and encountered a little issue:
I have set Seek bar text in first options page to display Nothing, but when I close MPC-BE, open it again and play a file, it is set to display File name (else title or URL).
I switched back to r4113 which is fine.

Comfirm - fixed.

[Grimsdyke]

Just wanted to report that after a nice discussion via PM one bug that must have been present in the codebase for ages because mpc-hc is also affected has now been fixed !!
Most users never even noticed that this bug existed but it really annoyed me - so thank you very much, you guys are amazing !!!!!

[Aleksoid1978]

Just wanted to report that after a nice discussion via PM one bug that must have been present in the codebase for ages because mpc-hc is also affected has now been fixed !!
Most users never even noticed that this bug existed but it really annoyed me - so thank you very much, you guys are amazing !!!!!

What bug ?? :)

[heiseikiseki]

To report an issue on the 1.5.2 stable. When I attach the MPC-BE to the hafe side of the monitor.(By dragging it to the one side of the edge of the display) .
Then if I double clicked to change to full screen. It doesn't fill the screen.

(enviroment : Windows 10 1809)

[hubi73]

@heiseikiseki
Try this with every other window on the screen and you will find that this is Windows standard behaviour.

half size window > double click > shrunken window > double click > full screen

[heiseikiseki]

@heiseikiseki
Try this with every other window on the screen and you will find that this is Windows standard behaviour.

half size window > double click > shrunken window > double click > full screen


Thanks for the reply. I tried. But IN MPC-BE it not becomes the shrunken window.
For example my display is 2560*1440.
it just become 2560*1429. (almost fill but not full)
Since the previous version I didn't see this behavior.

[hubi73]

On my 1920x1080 everything is fine. This is probably a bug with hi-res monitors. As of Aleksoids equipment list he doesn't have a display above Full-HD and maybe therefore he doesn't recognise this. Perhaps you should do more testing and provide more information.
E.g. how is your display attached (HDMI, Displayport, ...) and test to change your resolution to Full-HD.

[Klaus1189]

I use 3840x2160@200% and can confirm the behavior that heiseikiseki has reported. I also tested an old build from 2017-10-17 r3005, same behavior.
I tried MPC-HC 1.8.3 and it is fine.

I recognized that in case of MPC-BE the taskbar is in front of MPC-BE in this case, so MPC-BE is of course in the background.

[heiseikiseki]

I tried to change the resolution into FHD but the behavir is the same.
It change the resolution into 1906*1072.

My display is attached by Display Port 1.2.

[hubi73]

@heiseikiseki or @Klaus
Maybe a screenshot of the almost filled window would help.

[heiseikiseki]

@heiseikiseki or @Klaus
Maybe a screenshot of the almost filled window would help.

Here is the Screenshot https://imgur.com/a/LseGK2H
(that frame is all white)

Notice that If I hide the taskbar and there is no other window behind MPC-BE then it would be filled.

[hubi73]

As I can see the window is not completely filled in horizontal direction, can you move the taskbar to the left or right side and look if this makes a difference.
BTW: I can't really help you, I do this to provide Aleksoid the information that maybe helps him.

Just to be really sure: This is maximised window and not a resized (or shrunken) window?

[heiseikiseki]

Here is the new screenshot with the taskbar on leftside.
https://imgur.com/a/06buNeC
Notice that there is very thin edge of the right side not been filled.

And yes, I am sure.

[Aleksoid1978]

Comfirm bug - but i don't know what's happened :)

[Klaus1189]

I tried older MPC-HC builds and found out it was the same issue in MPC-HC till 1.7.3. Since 1.7.4 it is fine. So the fix must be between 2014-02-02 and 2014-04-16.
I searched and found that commit:
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/d5b61a9ac90f02810795c8b900a30681b87156a5
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3980
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4037
Other possible commits in that time:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/commits/develop?after=bb265c266bbd574bd08b1b6559d2fa1e2209896e+1889

[beter]

Update translation
https://www.sendspace.com/file/22ivp5


(BTW, finally there is someone maintaining the Japanese translation......)

[Mercury_22]

Recent file list can't be cleared after MPC-BE 1.5.3.4126
Last working is r4126

[v0lt]

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r4125.

@Mercury_22
Thank you! This bug is based on a very unpleasant typo in r4128. Fixed in r4141.

I ask everyone not to use versions from 1.5.3.4129 to 1.5.3.4140.

[ryrynz]

I ask everyone not to use versions from 1.5.3.4129 to 1.5.3.4140.

Given how you guys update the player almost every day I'd hope you release 1.5.3 before the end of the year. There are already bug fixes in this new version. The more often stable is updated the more people see it.

[hubi73]

Youtube playback didn't work again neither with integrated web parser nor with youtube-dl. Tested with MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 4105) and build 4141.
youtube-dl error message: signature extraction failed

edit: youtube-dl File Version 2018.11.07 works so far.

[Aleksoid1978]

Youtube playback didn't work again neither with integrated web parser nor with youtube-dl. Tested with MPC-BE 1.5.2 (build 4105) and build 4141.
youtube-dl error message: signature extraction failed

edit: youtube-dl File Version 2018.11.07 works so far.

Can you give a link for youtube - i'l test.

[hubi73]

Same as here:

I have tried dozens of videos e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVV9K7rhC4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj4ADZhEfJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCXGJQYZ9JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuUbziASwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aVefRDx1ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuUbziASwE

The links above won't work since yesterday and these links still work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLDsvDGHLVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unH9laYkWNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvGTsWvw2HU

It seems to me, that only links the are "less commercial" still work.

[Aleksoid1978]

Youtube fixed.

[Klaus1189]

I tried older MPC-HC builds and found out it was the same issue in MPC-HC till 1.7.3. Since 1.7.4 it is fine. So the fix must be between 2014-02-02 and 2014-04-16.
I searched and found that commit:
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/d5b61a9ac90f02810795c8b900a30681b87156a5
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3980
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4037
Other possible commits in that time:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/commits/develop?after=bb265c266bbd574bd08b1b6559d2fa1e2209896e+1889

Aleksoid1978 and v0lt:
Have you already took a look at it?

[Aleksoid1978]

Aleksoid1978 and v0lt:
Have you already took a look at it?

It's don't help.

[Klaus1189]

Aleksoid1978:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/commit/3c95ed9f82b3c524a646e311b05aeaf47b6d807d
fixed that issue:
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3987

This looks promising to me.

[hubi73]

Youtube fixed.

That went fast - Thank you.

[Aleksoid1978]

Aleksoid1978:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/commit/3c95ed9f82b3c524a646e311b05aeaf47b6d807d
fixed that issue:
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3987

This looks promising to me.

Didn't help.

[Klaus1189]

I still think the fix for this in in:
Commits on Mar 3, 2014 (https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commits/develop?after=7f14b47cf225102b162d61c9cfa74186e1fe5e80+1749)

Relevant tickets:
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3980
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/3987
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4004
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4037
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4082


Probably a combination of commits is the solution for it? Otherwise the tickets wouldn't be mentioned in more of the commits.
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/6fae5d968d86f032d5006364a72057c94fefe8a2
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/f147c8d197f33252748b5ecbb6136363a472ea8c
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/a35aeebf65321e5431689ae0d6c6df506b995878
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/5f0e3e2a39f99ba932fc5e34368a041bd1db383f
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/fa72fd76ee22999f1513061025080fe257beb7b4
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/5b1554387b4d533bf1a15994b0b279430f1edcfc
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/7d4b8c95ac07673c141d26d24728bab260951763
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/1c53d893632d8a2d95d1b070e5252ef42506b70e
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/c3cd62d4c082a8d8b3eb1f9cd4517f42d30eab17
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/9310bcd8ebef80916e4fdba0defc7c83c6dad792
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/d5b61a9ac90f02810795c8b900a30681b87156a5
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/3f4639fa70b44f3995e13797bb500621de82de06
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/7c6a1ce8af578b90c1c01067f2bfb55fce1b4943
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/5b7c433978e5c82d94ab26ddd2b9e3960993bfc9
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/3c95ed9f82b3c524a646e311b05aeaf47b6d807d
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/aca61580599af330fdcc6565d28d82ac579f6bc1

If this doesn't help, I don't know. Although I don't use MPC-BE that way, but knowing this issue is driving me crazy.

[Zinglar]

I notice a problem with some, but not all, mkv files. The audio plays fine, but the video element is stuttering and jumpy, almost frozen. I'm using v. 1.5.2 (build 4105) on Windows 10 Pro. Any ideas how to solve this problem?

[SeeMoreDigital]

I notice a problem with some, but not all, mkv files. The audio plays fine, but the video element is stuttering and jumpy, almost frozen. I'm using v. 1.5.2 (build 4105) on Windows 10 Pro. Any ideas how to solve this problem?How about running one or more of your problem .mkv files through an application called 'MediaInfo' (set to text mode) and post what it reports in full.

[Grimsdyke]

If this doesn't help, I don't know. Although I don't use MPC-BE that way, but knowing this issue is driving me crazy.

Apps should always be improved even if only one user has a specific problem ! So I hope that one day my issues with external audio will be fixed too.

@Klaus, in b4145 under 3D-Stereo-Modus there are some Englisch texts !! May be meant this way but "Left/Right tauschen" sounds strange !?!

[Klaus1189]

I know. It is sometimes hard to find short suitable words.
What do you think about "Halbbilder tauschen"?
I personally do not know if "Halbbilder" is fully correct, I mean some 3D methods have full resolution pictures for left and right. But since you need 2 pictures for one "3d frame", one picture would be "half".

[Grimsdyke]

Tricky indeed - how about "3D-Halbbilder tauschen" because I think "Halbild" does mean indeed something else. Or just simply "Links/Rechts tauschen" because people who uses 3D will surely know what that means.

[Klaus1189]

"3D-Halbbilder tauschen", to much "3D" -> already in 3D menu
only "Halbbild" to much of normal interlaced video.
I simply didn't translated "Left/Right", so it matched the 3D modes above, but since you want it, I change it.

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwVKESYQIV_YghuM5iLovTAPFLnzmc8H/view?usp=sharing) based on r4151

[hubi73]

As far as I know the stereoscopy term is "Teilbilder".

[LuckyJim]

Hi, guys! Thank you for the wonderful MPC-BE and for your hard work developing it!

Is it possible to add an option, when playing an audio file the player to continue to show my chosen external logo instead of switching to the logo with the loudspeaker? Or maybe I can tweak some registry settings?

Right now my workaround is to set the player to "display album art/cover pictures" and put my external logo as cover.jpg in every folder with audio files, but it's a bit inconvenient.

Thanks again for your great work!

[mrmarioman]

I've been using MPC-BE to watch Youtube HDR videos, with a 980Ti + i7 8700k. And it works really well...but just for the first few minutes. Weird. After two minutes or so my GPU utilization drops from 30-40% to 10-15%, and the video starts to drop frames like crazy and stutter. It happens with every HDR video that I've tried, and always after a few minutes of playing.

[XMonarchY]

Does BE version of MPC support more forms of Bink file types? They are mostly used for games. I wonder why...

MPH-HC can open some .BK2 files, but not others. I know RAD Video Tools comes with BK2 file player, but that means no madVR, no 3DLUT and accurate colors, no superior playback quality...

This doesn't seem to be an appropriate thread to discuss more general BK2-related questions, but I am not sure which Doom9 forum section is more suitable for this...

EDIT: When people say they use MPC-BE for YouTube video playback, do they mean that BE can simply load ANY YouTube video URL and show the video? Or does it do it through some other tools like YouTube-DL-GUI ?

[huhn]

yes mpc-be can load kind of any youtube video by adding the URL.

[v0lt]

@XMonarchY
Bikn file support was made based on ffmpeg code. If MPC-BE does not play Bikn file, but ffplay plays it, then provide such a file for examination.

[Zinglar]

How about running one or more of your problem .mkv files through an application called 'MediaInfo' (set to text mode) and post what it reports in full.

Thanks for the advice. This is one example of a file that is not playing properly, that is the audio plays fine, but the video element is stuttering and jumpy, almost frozen.

General
Complete name : The Apprentice Uk - S14E06 - Airline Advertising (2).mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 1 006 MiB
Duration : 59 min 0 s
Overall bit rate : 2 385 kb/s
Movie name : The Apprentice UK S14E06 Airline Advertising
Writing application : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgjf4DzvFD0
Writing library : BiSH - SMACK baby SMACK
Tool : Multi Group Release Encoder v27.2

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 59 min 0 s
Bit rate : 2 145 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.093
Stream size : 905 MiB (90%)
Writing library : x264 core 157 r2935 545de2f
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 59 min 0 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 81.0 MiB (8%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

[Grimsdyke]

Does anybody else have under Pan&Scan dozens of duplicated entries of 'Ultra widescreen zoom" ??

[LuckyJim]

Does anybody else have under Pan&Scan dozens of duplicated entries of 'Ultra widescreen zoom" ??

Nope. 1.5.2 (build 4105) here.

[hubi73]

Does anybody else have under Pan&Scan dozens of duplicated entries of 'Ultra widescreen zoom" ??

Yes, there are a lot of them. (build 4146)

[v0lt]

I ask everyone not to use versions from 1.5.3.4129 to 1.5.3.4153.
Please use v1.5.3.4154 or newer. But you have to reset the settings.

[Manni]

I ask everyone not to use versions from 1.5.3.4129 to 1.5.3.4153.
Please use v1.5.3.4154 or newer. But you have to reset the settings.

Thanks. Do you have to reset the settings if your current build is 4105, or only if you've used 4129-4153 [Edit: corrected versions!] already?

[v0lt]

Thanks. Do you have to reset the settings if your current build is 4105, or only if you've used 4153-4154 already?
Only if you have already used 4129-4153.

[Manni]

Only if you have already used 4129-4153.

Great thanks :)

[yonta]

Starting from build 4145, mpc-be goes mute on dts sound track in a .m2ts file if I jump forward or backward.

[Aleksoid1978]

Starting from build 4145, mpc-be goes mute on dts sound track in a .m2ts file if I jump forward or backward.

Comfirm. Thanks for info.
Fixed.

[Noctis001]

MPC-BE is always showing subtitle track even though the "default flag track" and "forced flag track" are set to no. Any idea to solve this?

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-BE is always showing subtitle track even though the "default flag track" and "forced flag track" are set to no. Any idea to solve this?

No - it's not a bug, nothing solved. Flag in matroska not for show/hide subtitles. It's for priority of choice.

But - if you want see only "forced" you can set option "Forced only" in subtitles sub-menu.

[LuckyJim]

Is it possible to add an option, when playing an audio file the player to continue to show my chosen external logo instead of switching to the logo with the loudspeaker? Or maybe I can tweak some registry settings?

Bump?

[Aleksoid1978]

Bump?

There is no such options/choose, sorry.

[LuckyJim]

There is no such options/choose, sorry.

Thank you for your answer, Aleksoid1978!

[BetA13]

Bump?
Originally Posted by LuckyJim View Post
Is it possible to add an option, when playing an audio file the player to continue to show my chosen external logo instead of switching to the logo with the loudspeaker? Or maybe I can tweak some registry settings?

hy there,

if you want you can do it yourself, it works and i can show you how if you are interessted..

ill put the tutorial here but spoiler it so it does not disturb the conversations here :)


1. you need a Tool named "Resource Hacker" its freeware and clean...

2. open the Mpc-be64.exe or the 32bit one, wich ever you use, wich Resource Hacker.

on the left side now, find number 197 under the PNG Tab.

Right click the number 197:1033 and then you can REPLACE the picture, BUT be aware that it has to be the same size as the one that you are replacing, also it has to be 24bit png.

Heres a pic of it:

Pics removed (too big )

And heres teh Final Product :)

Pics removed (too big )

Playing an MP3 with the standart Logo :)



I hope that helped you a bit :)

Greetings


EDIT:
damnit, i cant set the "Spoiler" CODE..
If this tutorial does not belong here, feel free to delete it, i will post it somewhere else then...

[LuckyJim]

hy there,

if you want you can do it yourself, it works and i can show you how if you are interessted..
[...]


Wow! Thank you so much, BetA13! I didn't even have to resize my image (500x313). Just saved it as a 24-bit png and it worked like a charm!
Thanks again, mate!

[BetA13]

No Problem :)
Glad i could help...

ill delete the images, they are a little too big haha..

have a nice evening :)

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1teDxdU0e_0KFOO2QVEJ1q4vEKAbeZ0/view?usp=sharing)"VSync"

[Klaus1189]

I added r4182 "Presentation mode" to my updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1teDxdU0e_0KFOO2QVEJ1q4vEKAbeZ0/view?usp=sharing) :)

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thank you. Updated in r4188.

[Megalith]

I ask everyone not to use versions from 1.5.3.4129 to 1.5.3.4153.
Please use v1.5.3.4154 or newer. But you have to reset the settings.

Why do we have to reset the settings? What was broken?

[ryrynz]

The settings obviously :P
I've found a few issues cropping up with older config files using BE.
Pays to reset it every so often of you're using nightly builds, export and import.

[peter0815x]

hi

i have a small question, a small request and found a small bug :)


the question:
is there a way to enable blu ray menus ?
when i open a blu ray (even with index.bdmv) the main movie starts, but the menu is not shown before.

(i have a blu ray where the movie has 2 different endings, but the movie seems to be only 1 time on the disc and the ending is chosen from menu. when the movie starts without menu you cannot select which version you want to see)


the bug:
i use a usb dac and
when i play high res audio with wasapi exclusive enabled,
files will be played only up to 192k.

when i play a flac file with 384k it will be downsampled to 192k
foobar2k plays it with 384k.
seems there is a bug? in audio decoder to play bitperfect only up to 192k and resample everything above.

i know mpc be is mainly for video files
but would be great if this could be fixed.


the request:
support for sacd iso and dsd64/128 would be cool.

:thanks:

[ryrynz]

Blu-ray menu's are not supported by many if not all free to use media players. If you want it, find a paid one.

[Aleksoid1978]

peter0815x
Are you sure that you sound card support up to 384k ?? What audio-rendered use ?? How you detect downsampled to 192k ??

dsd64/128 - already supported long time ago.

[huhn]

both mpc.hc and mpc-be doesn't work with 384 khz as a shared sample rate.

the terrible creative AE-5 supports up to 32 bit 384khz i have one here.

just to make that clear 32 bit works fine.

[Aleksoid1978]

If sound card support 384 - it's must working with internal MPC Audio Renderer.
What audio-renderer use ??

[huhn]

i don't have a 384khz file here so i can't test exclusive.
but MPC Audio Renderer in shared mode works.

the default "directsound: system default" doesn't work.

and foobar doesn't really work too: Unrecoverable playback error: Unknown error code (0x88880001)
i guess both have the same error but mpc-be doesn't show it.

[peter0815x]

vlc can show blu ray menu but it runs very unstable with it.
sometimes you cannot select anything.

is a blu ray menu so different from dvd menu ?




i use a yamaha mcr 870d with built in usb dac
ESS SABRE 32 ES9010.
(supports 32 bit 384k pcm and up to 128 dsd)
it will show incoming frequency in display.

i use mpc audio renderer with wasapi exclusive mode


mpc be plays 44,1, 48, 96, 192 all fine
but everything above 192 will be downsampled to 192k

here some free test flacs
https://www.24bit96.de/downloads/flac-testdateien-und-dac-konfigurationen-laden.html

dsd64/128 is supported , but not native
mpc be converts dsd to pcm with 192k
(when i play the files with mpc be my usb dac receives pcm with 192k and not dsd with 2.8 / 5.6 mhz)

foobar2k with sacd plugin sends the data native to my usb dac in dsd format.

here some free dsd test files
http://www.2l.no/hires/

[peter0815x]

i tested mpc renderer with shared wasapi mode
in shared mode it will resample everything to 44.1k
(my windows 10 standard output)

[Aleksoid1978]

I don't have sound card with 384 support, but i know that audio-data input to MPC Audio Renderer untouch:
https://i.imgur.com/nblXMIu.png
and output at maximum possible quality.

About dsd - we using ffmpeg and it convert to PCM. I don't have hardware with dsd support(if somebody interesting - can sponsored for buying).

[Aleksoid1978]

i tested mpc renderer with shared wasapi mode
in shared mode it will resample everything to 44.1k
(my windows 10 standard output)

Shared mode using current system's audio settings.
Use wasapi exclusive for maximum quality.

[huhn]

mpc audio renderer in exclusive mode is down sampling to 192khz. shared is working at 384khz.


EDIT: here some screens:
https://abload.de/img/exclusivepai2j.png
https://abload.de/img/sharedf3fxw.png

the 384khz test file are wrongly labelled too it is clearly 16 bit not 24 as the name says.


is a blu ray menu so different from dvd menu ?
they couldn't be more different and for VD we have a native menu thanks to windows natively supporting it.
dsd64/128 is supported , but not native
mpc be converts dsd to pcm with 192k
(when i play the files with mpc be my usb dac receives pcm with 192k and not dsd with 2.8 / 5.6 mhz)

the PCM is fine that's not really any worse if done correctly. you can read more about this on jriver page they have a nice write up about this topic but i can't remember if it was lossless.

[peter0815x]

mpc audio renderer in exclusive mode is down sampling to 192khz.


guess nobody will hear a difference between 44,1k or higher rates (same for cd vs sacd)
but i think its best to play files in org format :)

hope this can be fixed.


yep most soundcards / usb dacs cannot read dsd data
only pcm
even if you cannot hear a difference sacd iso support would be nice (even when its only converted to pcm)
just to be able to play them.

if mpc be would support sacd isos there is no need to use foobar2k anylonger :)



some "pay" players like dvd fab media player have probs with blu ray menus, and power dvd...
well it can play blu rays and dvds but for everything else its not good.

mpc be is the perfect player
fast, stable and very good codec support for video and audio. :cool:

[Aleksoid1978]

Build with creating log on desktop - https://yadi.sk/d/NI8PKmRx5KfMmw
Open you 384 files, close and upload log for me.

P.S. I found bug with 384 :)

[Aleksoid1978]

About sacd iso - it's have you own structure and i don't interesting to waste time for implement it, sorry :)

[peter0815x]

here the log file

https://www73.zippyshare.com/v/Tyg4Rxj2/file.html

still played at 192k




foobar2k uses external sacd plugin
may be its posisble to use this code to read sacd file structure ?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/sacddecoder/
(the guy stopped working on it, may be he is ok if you use the code for mpc)



about audio playback i have a small question:
when i open a cue file and play a full album
in the seekbar of mpc be the full flac file is shown
like one big track.
makes it hard to seek inside a single song.

would help if there would be small chapter lines in seekbar to see start and end of each song in seekbar:


seekbar looks like this now:

-------------------------------

would be good when you open cue file with full cd to make seekbar look like this:

------|------|---|-------|-----|


hope you know what i mean :)

[Aleksoid1978]

peter0815x
If open cue with single file - chapters show(if enable in options). If open cue with multiple files - it's(files) add to playlist.

About 384Khz - another test build https://yadi.sk/d/owJCdSgf2VaCzg

[peter0815x]

peter0815x
If open cue with single file - chapters show(if enable in options). If open cue with multiple files - it's(files) add to playlist.


:thanks:




here the new log file
still 192k

https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/f9GIzGwl/file.html



when i look into log file seems that supported output formats of my audio device are not properly found by mpc be
only 192k supported

i tested again with foobar2k with asio, wasapi and with sacd plugin with asio output
foobar2k works with all 3 outputs with 352k and 384k
i use latest yamaha usb driver

[Aleksoid1978]

peter0815x
WASAPI Audio renderer using IAudioClient::IsFormatSupported() to detect supported format list. Audio drives(or system) don't tell about 384Khz. Try uncheck "Use system layout channels".

[ryrynz]

Thanks Judelaw for the dark skin playlist, been wanting it for a long time. Looks good!

[peter0815x]

Try uncheck "Use system layout channels".

thats it, its working now with 352k and 384k
even with normal build 4105 :)


edit: but dsd files making problems with that setting

dsd64 with 2.8 mhz is converted to pcm 352800 hz, plays ok
dsd128 with 5.6 mhz is converted to pcm 705600 hz !

that is not supported by my usb dac, max is 384k.
display of my yamaha shows "705600 hz" but its not suported so it sounds distorted with lots of noise.

[Aleksoid1978]

If it's show "705600 hz" - it means it supports input such parameters.

[peter0815x]

official it supports only 384k pcm
and dsd up to 5.6 mhz (so i hope my ess chip doesnt get damaged trying to play pcm higher than 384k)

it sounds terrible with 705600 hz pcm

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/hifi_systems/mcr-n870d/index.html


DSD 5.6MHz native and PCM 384kHz compatible high grade USB DAC function

Built into the unit is an exceptionally high-grade USB DAC which can reproduce high-resolution sound sources with all their original quality. It is compatible with native playback of the DSD 5.6MHz (DSD128) format or 384kHz/32-bit playback which records music information with extraordinary detail by sampling up to a massive 5,644,800 times per second. The D/A converter is the 32-bit/2-channel specification, high-performance SABRE 32 (ES9010K2M) from the U.S. company, ESS Technology, and its USB device controller IC is the latest product from XMOS, the semiconductor firm. By restricting shutter noise through asynchronous transference, this delivers pure reproduction and optimum sonic quality.




nice device and has a very good headphone amp with enough power to run 600 ohm hifi headphones :)
also good if you watch movies and play pc games (no probs so far, but only in stereo)
and with cd drive and usb port you can listen to music without using pc.

[Aleksoid1978]

peter0815x - new test build https://yadi.sk/d/H3GEZ5vu4O0StA
Test on 384000 & 705600. No need to uncheck "Use system layout channels".

Log also created on desktop. If 705600 is playback as is - upload log for me.

[peter0815x]

384k is working now with "use system layout channels"

here the log when playing dsd128
(got converted to 705600 hz)

https://www14.zippyshare.com/v/0xgNXfmm/file.html

[Aleksoid1978]

You driver(wasapi) accept 705600. I can't do something with it.

[peter0815x]

and playback dsd nativ ?

(guess this will make probs for people which devices dont support dsd nativ)

[Aleksoid1978]

Maybe somebody whant sponsored for buying usb dac or recivier with dsd native support ?? :)

[peter0815x]

i tested a dsd256 (11 mhz) file with foobar2k.

my yamaha usb dac plays it with 11 mhz in dsd mode
(seems the ess dac supports more than yamaha said :) )


when i try to play the dsd256 file with your test version its played in 192k pcm
so:

dsd64 is played in 352k (sounds ok)
dsd128 in 705k (sounds not good)
dsd256 in 192k (sounds ok)


but most high res files are in pcm and even there you dont hear a (big) difference compared to cd :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

I listen to quite a lot of (DSD64) SACD's that I play on my OPPO. As I run an analogue audio set-up the OPPO transcodes the DSD64 stream to an 88.2KHz/24-bit PCM stream.

Over the years there's been much technical discussion as to why the sample-rate is not higher. But it would seem it's not necessary...

[peter0815x]

may be we need a new format : a mix of dsd and pcm :)
instead of sacd we call it eacd (exteme audio cd)
a format with 2.6 mhz but in 16 bit or 32 and not in 1 bit
for 1 album we need a blu ray with 100gb as disc :)


guess to hear a difference between cd and hi-res you need not only good ears but also very good audio gear.
i use beyerdynamic dt 880 600 ohm headphones but i hear no difference. may be with 1000 € headphones :) .

[SeeMoreDigital]

With regard to DSD to PCM transcoding/conversion it's recommended to use sample-rates at 44.1KHz steps, not 48.0KHz steps. Hence 88.2KHz, not 96KHz ;)

[peter0815x]

guess its the same with blu rays played in 60 hz instead of 24 hz (or 48) :)

do i notice stuttering with 60 hz ? hmm good question ...
may be with a side by side comparison :D

[huhn]

a sample rate is more like up/down scaling similar algorithms are used for this.

and you can blindly assume mastering is done with PCM so dsd is just well...
so if an SACD sounds better it's not because they use DSD.

and about headphones i'm using T5p are they better than dt 990 or dt 880 yes they should be but it is not a gigantic difference the diminishing return of buying a better headphone than a dt 880 is very high.

[Anima123]

Just noticed that vlc team has released the first AV1 decoder dav1d, which they announced very often 100% faster than the libaom decoder.

dav1d: performance and completion of the first release (http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2018/dav1d-toward-the-first-release)

[v0lt]

@Anima123
This news has already been seen. And there is too much PR. In reality, on processors without AVX2, the libdav1d is slower than libaom.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lg3Txt5Uf6ZfUuv03xe7UJ9oADxQat2R/view?usp=sharing) based on r4221 :)

[Zinglar]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

[grimJester]

File / Save Thumbnails is limited to 2560 width, 10 columns and 20 rows. Would it be possible to get 4k thumbnail sheets? (This limitation has been there for a long time, wouldn't be surprised if there's some technical reason it's difficult to get higher resolution)

[Aleksoid1978]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

Temporary - disable DXVA for H264.

[Zinglar]

Temporary - disable DXVA for H264.

Many thanks! That works perfectly. However, are there any implications by doing this? Should I disable it only for problematic videos or should I leave it permanently disabled?

[ryrynz]

Just keep it disabled until it's fixed. It won't hurt anything.

[wushantao]

update Simplified Chinese;)

[Aleksoid1978]

I posted about a problem here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1857185&postcount=5845) some time ago. Unfortunately it has not been resolved on my PC. I uploaded at https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/WdGU68oK/file.html a sample video clip for anyone who could help me. For information, the same clip plays with no problem on MPC HC (portable), VLC, SMPlayer (portable).

I'm running Windows 10 Pro (64 bit) v. 1809.

Fixed. Thanks for info.

[Zinglar]

Fixed. Thanks for info.

Thank you for such a fast response. I guess I'll wait for the next update.

[Klaus1189]

update Simplified Chinese;)

use external hoster, such as Google Drive

I cannot open the file, it is still pending, see here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6ZfEYBtnKKJVoFJCZxdvNBguMVwLLpv/view?usp=sharing)

[wushantao]

use external hoster, such as Google Drive

I cannot open the file, it is still pending, see here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6ZfEYBtnKKJVoFJCZxdvNBguMVwLLpv/view?usp=sharing)
oh... i see, sorry

https://www19.zippyshare.com/v/OIetbyrn/file.html
http://www.solidfiles.com/v/jXXjZYkexjeXg
https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/TEPEGR7Z
https://bayfiles.com/Dbe0F0m4b5/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z

[yonta]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine.

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 51.7 MiB
Duration : 3 min 23 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 2 135 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.23.102

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=90
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 3 min 22 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 002 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 2 097 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.072
Stream size : 48.4 MiB (94%)
Title : h264@GPAC0.7.2-DEV-rev944-g0a890c07-master
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 3 min 23 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 125 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 3.03 MiB (6%)
Title : aac@GPAC0.7.2-DEV-rev944-g0a890c07-master
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

[Aleksoid1978]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine.


Thanks for info - wait a fix.

[v0lt]

@wushantao
Thank. Updated in r4237.
But I have a question. Why did you change the previously translated strings?

[SeeMoreDigital]

mpc-be plays this video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPezuE-Vkf8821TCREHNpbjFfYDDsrYT/view?usp=sharing) at around 10 fps when it is actually a 29.970fps video. I tried mpc-hc and mpv and they played it @29.970 just fine...
Just-so-people-know... VLC v3.0.4 plays it incorrectly too ;)

[wushantao]

@wushantao
Thank. Updated in r4237.
But I have a question. Why did you change the previously translated strings?

standardization of translation and unification of sentences:)

[huhn]

is there any reason the wasapi render from MPC-BE doesn't see the 7.1 simulated channels from windows sonic or simply can't use it?

steps to reproduce:
you need windows 10.
go to sounds-> playback device -> your playback device (preferable analogue) -> spatial sound -> select "windows sonic for headphones" _< tick "turn on 7.1 virtual surround sound"

play a 7.1 file with directsound it will render 7.1 as far as i can see.
play a 7.1 file with mpc-be internal audio renderer it shows down mixing to stereo.

[Aleksoid1978]

is there any reason the wasapi render from MPC-BE doesn't see the 7.1 simulated channels from windows sonic or simply can't use it?

steps to reproduce:
you need windows 10.
go to sounds-> playback device -> your playback device (preferable analogue) -> spatial sound -> select "windows sonic for headphones" _< tick "turn on 7.1 virtual surround sound"

play a 7.1 file with directsound it will render 7.1 as far as i can see.
play a 7.1 file with mpc-be internal audio renderer it shows down mixing to stereo.

I thinks besause WASAPI don't support "7.1 virtual surround sound".

[huhn]

is there a way to check this?

i mean this option is from Microsoft itself kind of odd if Microsoft has not seen this combination.

[v0lt]

Hey.
Does anyone have a sample (MOV) with video in 'b16g' (Apple 16-bit Gray) format?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hey.
Does anyone have a sample (MOV) with video in 'b16r' (Apple 16-bit Gray) format?I'm not familiar with that format at all...

[KoD]

A few issues to report:

Player can't resume playback until all the stream has been downloaded. Steps:
- have "Remember file position" enabled in the player options
- open the URL to some long youtube video (like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_xqBidOjpQ)
- after 5 minutes or so, stop the playback of the video (using File -> Close)
- open the same youtube URL again
-> playback does not resume when the download of the stream has reached the 5 minutes mark, it only resumes after the entire stream has been downloaded locally; for some youtube reviews that takes 30 or more minutes that's a lot of time to wait.

Another issue is with the xysubfilter external subtitle filter (maybe with the internal one as well).
- start playing some media files with subtitles
- open the xysubfilter properties dialog, and set a subtitle delay on the Timing tab
- close the file
- open the file again (or some other file)
-> the subtitle delay has been reset to zero; in MPC-HC the subtitle delay is kept, and I find it preferable this way (especially when viewing the episodes of a series using external subtitle files with different timings).

[Grimsdyke]

@ devs. A few weeks ago I have sent you (via PM) a few suggestions to improve 'autoload external audio' !! Did you received it ?

[Aleksoid1978]

@ devs. A few weeks ago I have sent you (via PM) a few suggestions to improve 'autoload external audio' !! Did you received it ?

It's already working good. Don't need improvement.

[Grimsdyke]

Well, I disagree but it is your project of course.

[Grimsdyke]

Regarding build 4255. Is there any way in the settings to get the white drop-down menues back ??

[Zulithe]

I actually like the new dark menus a lot, but I wish they were more compact. Too fat. Is that something that could be controlled?

[v0lt]

Regarding build 4255. Is there any way in the settings to get the white drop-down menues back ??
The easy way is to turn off the dark theme. Perhaps in the future it will be possible to turn off the dark menu without turning off the dark theme.

[Grimsdyke]

Perhaps in the future it will be possible to turn off the dark menu without turning off the dark theme.

That would be nice - I really don't like new dark menues. Thx !

[lvqcl]

The easy way is to turn off the dark theme.
But control buttons (Play/Stop/Prev/Next/...) for light theme are ugly... So, +1 for dark theme + normal menus.

[ryrynz]

Option to configure the color of the caption bar as well? That grey doesn't really fit the rest of the theme now, match the playlist border color by default? Thanks.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126219

[Aleksoid1978]

Color of Caption bar - controlled by system.

[ryrynz]

No way to override? If not guess I'll need to tweak it myself.

[hubi73]

Once again, Youtube is causing problems. Now the entire playlist of some albums does not work anymore. Affected are both the internal web parser and Youtube-dl. The Youtube-dl error message refers to country restrictions, but I can play the playlist with Firefox.
On the other hand if I turn off "Load playlist" in MPC-BE a single video from the playlist will work.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E

and a single video from the second playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg&list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E&t=0s&index=3

[Klaus1189]

updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kPAb5vE0NM2-fOQGdUieWYsefttaDEn8/view?usp=sharing) "dark menu"

[ryrynz]

Any desire to update the light mode so it looks like the dark mode (icons, graphics) just with lighter colors?
Even MPC-HC ditched that dated design.

I have scale in Windows set to 150%, With right click menu now in dark mode the menu is too large. Change made between 4249 and 4255.

[v0lt]

@Grimsdyke, lvqcl
After r4262, the dark menu can be disabled.

[Grimsdyke]

Thanks and seasons greetings !!!!

[Klaus1189]

Even MPC-HC ditched that dated design.

What design exactly did they ditch?

[ryrynz]

Turn off dark mode and see for yourself.

[Aleksoid1978]

Once again, Youtube is causing problems. Now the entire playlist of some albums does not work anymore. Affected are both the internal web parser and Youtube-dl. The Youtube-dl error message refers to country restrictions, but I can play the playlist with Firefox.
On the other hand if I turn off "Load playlist" in MPC-BE a single video from the playlist will work.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E

and a single video from the second playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg&list=OLAK5uy_n_-pqcTzA05GLCRApprjpEuJq51Pg8u_E&t=0s&index=3

There is nothing to do in this situation. Playback is restricted in some country. FF maybe use VNP/Proxy.

[Klaus1189]

Turn off dark mode and see for yourself.

Where is the switch to turn that off? Windows or MPC-HC? Please create a screeshot and let me see.

[ryrynz]

No, look at before and after screenshots of MPC-HC, they updated the UI. MPC-BE is still using old HC UI when not using dark mode.

[Klaus1189]

Post links to screenshots or create one or two by yourself. I already downloaded 1.8.3 to check but cannot find what you are referring to. Post link to screenshots. I can NOT find what you mean. Simply post screenshots.

[chros]

Post links to screenshots or create one or two by yourself. I already downloaded 1.8.3 to check but cannot find what you are referring to. Post link to screenshots. I can NOT find what you mean. Simply post screenshots.

:) @ryrynz talks about this: run mpc-hc and run mpc-be with disabling the the dark skin. (There's no such setting in mpc-hc.)

[ryrynz]

Forget it, you guys aren't understanding and I CBF explaining it more than I already have. Mods should know what I mean, that's who it's intended for.

[hubi73]

@Aleksoid thank you for your reply.

I don't use any Proxies or VPNs and I don't think that this is a simple country restriction.

If I play this playlist (U2/October) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw
then MPC-BE tries to play the first song (Gloria) with this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz86ymSCY8w which doesn't work neither in MPC-BE nor with Firefox (Firefox says because of country restrictions).

But if I play this playlist with Firefox then Firefox opens the first song with a different link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imOAtaYw8A0 and this link works as well in MPC-BE.

edit: The link that Firefox opens is actually youtube.com/watch?v=imOAtaYw8A0&t=0s&list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw&index=2
but with this long link MPC-BE load the whole playlist and starts with the (wrong) link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz86ymSCY8w which does not work.

edit2: ".\youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw"
This sentence in a command line will also work without errors and downloads the whole album.
But as I mentioned in my last posting Youtube-dl does not work within MPC-BE.

[Klaus1189]

Forget it, you guys aren't understanding and I CBF explaining it more than I already have. Mods should know what I mean, that's who it's intended for.

You don‘t have to explain it more, simple screenshots will do, done in 1 minute. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ryrynz]

I'm not doing this because you can't perform the simple task of comparing Mpc-be sans dark mode vs mpc-hc.. It's a simple thing to do, sorry if you can't manage it.

Anyway this wasn't my point. The point is the non be dark mode needs to look like be dark mode just not dark. That's the last I'll say about it.

[Klaus1189]

I'm not doing this because you can't perform the simple task of comparing Mpc-be sans dark mode vs mpc-hc.. It's a simple thing to do, sorry if you can't manage it.

What did I do that you behave like that?
I simply asked what design the MPC-HC devs ditched according to your statement. MPC-HC looks as it looked several years ago, so what did they ditched?

Now you are clearly showing me, that I am stupid. Of course you didn't wrote it directly but indirecly. Thank you very much :mad:

If I compare MPC-BE with MPC-HC both look 99% the same, so I really don't see your point. Ah I forgot, I am so stupid, thanks again. :mad:

I compared also the right click menu in these screenshots:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12kATykb8F3uTvhZEf-bJCct6w-7uxSGh/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chzW13dLswIKsMZFHWk25yz-Hy-XVkPE/view?usp=sharing

The point is the non be dark mode needs to look like be dark mode just not dark. That's the last I'll say about it.
MPC-HC doesn't look like that.

[Grimsdyke]

I also made the comparision and I don't see anything that makes HC looking better/more modern or whatever ...

[lvqcl]

You can't see it, really?

https://i.imgur.com/3Emv2zJ.png


Top: MPC-HC 1.7.13.112 (the latest "official")
Bottom: MPC-BE 1.5.3 beta (dark mode turned off).

[Grimsdyke]

I see that and BE is way better and I hope it will not be changed anytime soon !!

Edit: Tested also the latest stable (zip, not installer) and on my system it looks almost identical to BE.

[Manni]

manni

[Manni]

manni

Does anyone else sees posts from their account, with their username in the post? I have deleted a couple of these, but they keep popping back up. I certainly don't post them!

[huhn]

use an advanced search and ask an mod.
i'm pretty sure you did the rest you are suppose to do in such a situation.

[Manni]

use an advanced search and ask an mod.
i'm pretty sure you did the rest you are suppose to do in such a situation.

Thanks. Yes I have done what I'm supposed to do but it doesn't seem to be making any difference. I will ask a mod.

[Klaus1189]

You can't see it, really?

https://i.imgur.com/3Emv2zJ.png


Top: MPC-HC 1.7.13.112 (the latest "official")
Bottom: MPC-BE 1.5.3 beta (dark mode turned off).

Thanks, now I see what is meant, what a screenshot can do is really amazing, isn‘t it? ;)

To get the Dark Theme bright or silver there are color sliders which can be used to get a bright color.

[wushantao]

update Simplified Chinese
https://bayfiles.com/F8ddDdo8b3/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z
https://userscloud.com/ghhlec0v7zmu
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/vDzYzpRzMKmVB
same file, 3 host

[ryrynz]

Thanks, now I see what is meant, what a screenshot can do is really amazing, isn‘t it? ;)


If you're abilities to use your eyes are next to nil, sure. Honestly rather than praising someone having done this, you should probably be booking an exam.

[beter]

Update for translation of Traditional Chinese and Dutch
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mkumzs

[v0lt]

@wushantao
Thanks. Updated in r4282.

@beter
Thanks. Updated in r4283.

[amayra]

is MPC-BE ISR based on libass or VSFilter ?

[v0lt]

is MPC-BE ISR based on libass or VSFilter ?
The question is incorrect.
MPC-BE ISR and MPC-BE VSFilter partially use the same code. We do not use libass.

[Klaus1189]

If you're abilities to use your eyes are next to nil, sure. Honestly rather than praising someone having done this, you should probably be booking an exam.

What is wrong with you? If you are a kind person, you would have helped me to understand. If you look at my screenshots I first thought the right click menu was meant. But instead of helping me, you just throw ignorant words around you. Why?
I didn‘t do you anything, and you are attacking me. What is wrong with you?

[beter]

update Simplified Chinese
https://bayfiles.com/F8ddDdo8b3/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z
https://userscloud.com/ghhlec0v7zmu
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/vDzYzpRzMKmVB
same file, 3 host

You have forgotten this one.
STRING IDS_AG_OPEN_ISO "Open Iso image"

This one is similar to the "打开光盘映像…" in 「文件」menu, However, this is without the 省略号 and be used in 「选项->快捷键」shortcut setting.

[wushantao]

You have forgotten this one.
STRING IDS_AG_OPEN_ISO "Open Iso image"

This one is similar to the "打开光盘映像…" in 「文件」menu, However, this is without the 省略号 and be used in 「选项->快捷键」shortcut setting.

ooops，，，my bad

thx for your info:thanks:

fixed:D

http://www.solidfiles.com/d/8pZNG5dNnLkQN
https://bayfiles.com/vc6aH6o7bc/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z
https://anonfile.com/w66bH5ofb7/mplayerc.sc.rc_7z
https://userscloud.com/y7yuf7gens22

[hubi73]

@Aleksoid thank you for your reply.

I don't use any Proxies or VPNs and I don't think that this is a simple country restriction.

If I play this playlist (U2/October) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw
then MPC-BE tries to play the first song (Gloria) with this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz86ymSCY8w which doesn't work neither in MPC-BE nor with Firefox (Firefox says because of country restrictions).

But if I play this playlist with Firefox then Firefox opens the first song with a different link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imOAtaYw8A0 and this link works as well in MPC-BE.

edit: The link that Firefox opens is actually youtube.com/watch?v=imOAtaYw8A0&t=0s&list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw&index=2
but with this long link MPC-BE load the whole playlist and starts with the (wrong) link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz86ymSCY8w which does not work.

edit2: ".\youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1ThBcs0lmzT0zU9MA5eb9ytq1yASe-uw"
This sentence in a command line will also work without errors and downloads the whole album.
But as I mentioned in my last posting Youtube-dl does not work within MPC-BE.


I did some trial and error with duckduckgo's regional search and found out that the link from U2/Gloria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz86ymSCY8w is the North America, China and international version
and the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imOAtaYw8A0 is mainly for European countries, Russia, Japan, Australia ...
I assume that MPC-BE doesn't make a region check and therefore Youtube delivered the international link regardless of which country it is in.

[amayra]

The question is incorrect.
MPC-BE ISR and MPC-BE VSFilter partially use the same code. We do not use libass.
just out of curiosity there any reason for not besed the internal subtitle renderer on libass ?

[huhn]

the rendering from VS filter is considered the correct way and libass was doing it wrong in the past so there was no choice this topic should be older then MPC-BE it self.
and libass didn't have a directshow filter for like "ever".

on top of it libass is made for ASS and xy subfilter for most types of subtitles and supports PGS for example.

[v0lt]

just out of curiosity there any reason for not besed the internal subtitle renderer on libass ?
Yes. Not necessary.
But if anyone wants to experiment, he can do it. All source codes are available.

[amayra]

the rendering from VS filter is considered the correct way and libass was doing it wrong in the past so there was no choice this topic should be older then MPC-BE it self.
and libass didn't have a directshow filter for like "ever".

on top of it libass is made for ASS and xy subfilter for most types of subtitles and supports PGS for example.

there DirectShow subtitle provider based on libass called assfiltermod (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=173573)


But if anyone wants to experiment, he can do it. All source codes are available.

i hope someone do something about this topic look like libass working great in the other project like mpv

[Schattenspieler]

i hope someone do something about this topic
Why? Are you having any problems as it is now?



Gesendet von meinem H8324 mit Tapatalk

[amayra]

Why? Are you having any problems as it is now?
some heavily ASS subtitle lag when i use MPC-BE ISR or xyvsfilter but work fine in libass besed media player

[chros]

some heavily ASS subtitle lag when i use MPC-BE ISR or xyvsfilter but work fine in libass besed media player

Example ass file?

[iSeries]

Hi, is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle audio delay on/off? Thanks

[huhn]

Example ass file?

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w1wujgz9cyors/AssFilterMod

try the test files.

beaware of the subtitle renderer resolution are are using don't compare 720 mpc-be with UHD assfiltermod that not fair.

[v0lt]

Example ass file?
I remember there was a very strange subtitle file, in which one line was several megabytes in size. If this line is drawn as a sequence of images and compressed into PNG, then the images will have a smaller size. :)

[huhn]

the hard part in ass subs is moving parts(there is more of cause) that don'T need a lot of lines at least for real usage.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IPM0XHUVwoF8hFboyOo0mMn_P3JZDdme/view?usp=sharing) - "playlist font size:"

Happy New Year 2019 to you all :)

[v0lt]

@Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r4297.
You too happy New Year.

[LuckyJim]

Just found out something curious. I tried to associate MPC-BE with a couple more formats. I checked the checkboxes, clicked Apply, then OK but nothing changed.

Upon closer examination I found that if I clicked Apply and did not click OK, the respective keys (in this case mpc-be64.m3u, mpc-be64.pls etc.) were created under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.
As soon as I clicked OK in the options window, the keys disappeared from the registry. Clicking OK without clicking Apply first associated the format just fine and the change stayed.

I don't know if it's a Windows thing (7 Ultimate here) or something to do with MPC-BE (4105).

TL;DR If you have trouble associating formats in MPC-BE, do not click Apply first, just click OK.

[ryrynz]

Mentioned this earlier, only happens with dark mode menu and changes size above 100% app scale in Windows. Doesn't happen on my other system running 1809.

[amayra]

Mentioned this earlier, only happens with dark mode menu and changes size above 100% app scale in Windows. Doesn't happen on my other system running 1809.

https://i.imgur.com/mB4WzTcm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/mB4WzTc.jpg)

this happen in system as well running 1803

[judelaw]

Mentioned this earlier, only happens with dark mode menu and changes size above 100% app scale in Windows. Doesn't happen on my other system running 1809.

Start button > Settings > System > Display > Advanced scaling settings (under Scale and layout)
In the Advanced scaling settings window, try to turn off the Let Windows try to fix apps so they’re not blurry option

[ryrynz]

Unticked that option, restarted BE. Unticked dark menu, enable it again.. Still large.

[ryrynz]

Fixed. Had to restart/log off the system for it to take affect.

Nope..And it's back after a reboot. You'll need to look a bit more into it.
FWIW in 19H1 the fix blurry apps setting will be enabled by default.