Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[hirahi]

When using MPC-BE 1.7.0.17 and setting the renderer to MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2224 or later, noise occurs on the screen and the image
is not displayed properly.

There is no problem with MPC-HC 2.2.1.

OS:Windows11 home
CPU core i5 12400
GPU Intel UHD Graphics 730
Momory DDR4 3200 32GB

[Aleksoid1978]

When using MPC-BE 1.7.0.17 and setting the renderer to MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2224 or later, noise occurs on the screen and the image
is not displayed properly.

There is no problem with MPC-HC 2.2.1.


So - where is screenshots ?
What's video - any of some specifics ?
Show filters list.

[hirahi]

screenshot is below.
http://hirahi.cloudfree.jp/archive/mpc_be.png

video is an MPEG2 VOB file

MPC-BE standard filters are used.

[Aleksoid1978]

screenshot is below.
http://hirahi.cloudfree.jp/archive/mpc_be.png

video is an MPEG2 VOB file

MPC-BE standard filters are used.

Fixed in MPC-BE video decoder.

P.S. Fixed also in MPC VR.

[hirahi]

Fixed in MPC-BE video decoder.

P.S. Fixed also in MPC VR.

MPC-BE 1.7.0.19+MPC Video Renderer 0.8.0.2227
I confirmed that the video was displayed correctly.

[wyup]

Sorry if this has been answered before, but I've always been curious as to what advantage comes from using external LavFilters over recent MPC-BE internal filters (source, video, audio), specially MPC Video Decoder 1.7.0.

In the latter settings, is there any advantage on using D3D12cb over default 'D3D11, DXVA2'? I tried the former on Intel graphics and the green line graph on 'Ctrl + J' mas more jagged.

[v0lt]

In the latter settings, is there any advantage on using D3D12cb over default 'D3D11, DXVA2'?
There are no advantages other than special use. Copyback mode will always be slower than native modes.

[Sunspark]

@wyup The LAV filter splitter is much better because it allows for more control of subtitles, audio, etc. if you've taken the time to dial in some settings, which I have. In the BE player, I use it as an external filter.. but for decoders in BE, I use the BE video and audio decoders.

Copy-back still has a use-case, depending on the renderer, e.g. inverse-telecining of a DVD, but this doesn't really apply to most people anymore.

[Aleksoid1978]

What LAV Splitter better for subtitles, audio ?

[huhn]

automatic stream selection. AFAIK there is nothing like that in mpc-be.

the option to disable hardware decoding niece but very good reasons to do so.

there is also the "issue" with hardware decoding and madVR.
where the d3d11 -> d3d9 interop cost more then a copyback operation...
with a dvd you are usually better of using software decode.

[Aleksoid1978]

automatic stream selection.
What you mean?
See this - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/wiki/Default-track-preference ?

[Grimsdyke]

I have a few mp4 files that makes MPC-BE + internal filters crash but no problems with LAV splitters. So LAV seem to be more "tolerant" on problematic video files.

[Klaus1189]

Upload a sample for devs. Maybe worth to take a look at such files.

[v0lt]

I have a few mp4 files that makes MPC-BE + internal filters crash but no problems with LAV splitters. So LAV seem to be more "tolerant" on problematic video files.
Name the version MPC-BE to be more specific. Please provide your problematic samples or take them from here (https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples).

We can also remember that recent releases of LAV Filters had problems. :p

added:
There are reports that MPC-BE 1.7.0.20 has problems with some files after updating FFmpeg. We haven't reproduced the problem yet.

added:
Problem with VP9 fixed in MPC-BE 1.7.0.22.

[huhn]

What you mean?
See this - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/wiki/Default-track-preference ?
cool where?
Name the version MPC-BE to be more specific. Please provide your problematic samples or take them from here (https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples).

We can also remember that recent releases of LAV Filters had problems. :p

added:
There are reports that MPC-BE 1.7.0.20 has problems with some files after updating FFmpeg. We haven't reproduced the problem yet.

well yes ffmpeg had problem with "hevc".
that's why lav had issues and if you use the same version lavfilter used at the time you should have the same issue.

[Celio1080p]

Hello everyone.
Guys, mpc-be is only seeing 4 audio files in a video that i have here.
Fallout series.
But, if i open the video with mkvtoolnix, i can see 32 audio files.

There's anyway to force MPC-BE to show them all ?

I tried the Windows Media Player 2022 in Windows 11 Pro, my main PC, and it showed all audio files.
But i prefer MPC-BE, far superior.
Sorry my english.

[Sunspark]

One way to fix is in the settings for external filters to add lav splitter and lav splitter source. Mark both as prefer and checked.

In the settings for internal filters, uncheck everything on the source filters tab.

[Aleksoid1978]

Hello everyone.
Guys, mpc-be is only seeing 4 audio files in a video that i have here.
Fallout series.
But, if i open the video with mkvtoolnix, i can see 32 audio files.

There's anyway to force MPC-BE to show them all ?

I tried the Windows Media Player 2022 in Windows 11 Pro, my main PC, and it showed all audio files.
But i prefer MPC-BE, far superior.
Sorry my english.

Upload file or give torrent link.

[Celio1080p]

Upload file or give torrent link.

https://gofile.io/d/3VrPlm

There. Download to check it. I don't know why MPC-BE can't see the audio files. But Windows Media Player 2022 can. MediaInfo can.
MkvToolNix can.

[Aleksoid1978]

https://gofile.io/d/3VrPlm

There. Download to check it. I don't know why MPC-BE can't see the audio files. But Windows Media Player 2022 can. MediaInfo can.
MkvToolNix can.

It's simple - most of the audio tracks and subtitles are simply turned off, you can check in MKVToolnix - "Track enabled" flag, it is in the "No" state.
LAV Splitter doesn't show them either.

[Celio1080p]

It's simple - most of the audio tracks and subtitles are simply turned off, you can check in MKVToolnix - "Track enabled" flag, it is in the "No" state.
LAV Splitter doesn't show them either.

Ah i see.. it make sense. I.. don't know why he did that. Oh well.
Huh, anyway to just force them to show up, in MPC-BE ?
Or i will have to use MKVToolNix to enable them all ?
Thank you, sorry my english.

[v0lt]

Huh, anyway to just force them to show up, in MPC-BE ?
There is no such feature.
Or i will have to use MKVToolNix to enable them all ?
Yes. There is nothing stopping you from trying this.

[Celio1080p]

There is no such feature.

Yes. There is nothing stopping you from trying this.

Well, okay.. i still don't know why he did that.. oh well.
Thank you for your attention.

Edit: I tried to disable the LAV filters, and it worked. So i think it's the LAV filters that are hiding the audio files.
Oh well.. i hope they add a way to see all audio and subtittles files in the future.

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese Traditional and Dutch:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/3g4qy0

[wushantao]

Update Simplified Chinese：）

https://files.catbox.moe/manut7.7z
https://file.io/1d7pOoTbpkqj

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NwBzp70DqbsN-NeKUsrorOgUedPyb_nu/view?usp=sharing) :)

[cmhrky]

"Options > Audio > Audio"

Audio adjustments made with mouse wheel up/down move in the opposite direction.

[s0meone_new]

Hungarian translation updated:
https://easyupload.io/vwypfw

[v0lt]

Thanks. Translations have been updated.
Fixed mouse adjustment for volume and balance.

[cmhrky]

@v0lt

Thanks for the fix.

Another problem:

"Options > Interface > Use the preview in the search" Online enabled.

While a live stream is opening, if the cursor is over the Seek Bar, the preview image is displayed and remains on the screen permanently.

[Aleksoid1978]

@v0lt

Thanks for the fix.

Another problem:

"Options > Interface > Use the preview in the search" Online enabled.

While a live stream is opening, if the cursor is over the Seek Bar, the preview image is displayed and remains on the screen permanently.

Don't confirm. When live - preview is not show, tested on Youtube live streams.
Give your link for test.

[cmhrky]

Don't confirm. When live - preview is not show, tested on Youtube live streams.
Give your link for test.

https://streamable.com/84yep4

You can try it with any live stream.

[Aleksoid1978]

I check with youtube live stream - no preview window, all ok.

[Aleksoid1978]

https://streamable.com/84yep4

You can try it with any live stream.

I can reproduce :)

[Aleksoid1978]

@v0lt

Thanks for the fix.

Another problem:

"Options > Interface > Use the preview in the search" Online enabled.

While a live stream is opening, if the cursor is over the Seek Bar, the preview image is displayed and remains on the screen permanently.

Thx - fixed.

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese Traditional and Dutch:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/6i1erp

[beter]

I think there are still problems in the VP9 decoder.
I am now trying 1.7.0.38, using the internal DXVA2 VP9 decoder instead of the software decoder on Intel UHD 620. Every time I open a VP9 file (I have tested mp4 and mkv container), if I close the file via Ctrl+C or File->close, or open another file after or during the playback (Via File-> open, or PageUp/PageDown, etc), the whole player crashed. If I restart the playback after reaching the end of the video, the picture will be corrupted and sometimes the player also crashes.

Sample video file:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vrplwq

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Another small problem related to mp4. MPC-BE crashes on some of my mp4-container file if I click on the seek bar. No crashes if I disable the internal MP4 source splitter, or rollback to an extremely old version of MPC-BE.
Sample:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/adh7pm

[v0lt]

I am now trying 1.7.0.38, using the internal DXVA2 VP9 decoder instead of the software decoder on Intel UHD 620. Every time I open a VP9 file (I have tested mp4 and mkv container), if I close the file via Ctrl+C or File->close, or open another file after or during the playback (Via File-> open, or PageUp/PageDown, etc), the whole player crashed. If I restart the playback after reaching the end of the video, the picture will be corrupted and sometimes the player also crashes.
Sample video file:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vrplwq
I confirm. The issue appeared in MPC-BE 1.7.0.20 git2024-04-19-ea65a8067 after updating FFmpeg.

Another small problem related to mp4. MPC-BE crashes on some of my mp4-container file if I click on the seek bar. No crashes if I disable the internal MP4 source splitter, or rollback to an extremely old version of MPC-BE.
Sample:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/adh7pm
Not long ago (2024-02-29) version 1.6.11.174 (3ffe43e2f) was good.
Fixed in 1.7.0.42 (10e8eb566).

[v0lt]

Every time I open a VP9 file (I have tested mp4 and mkv container), if I close the file via Ctrl+C or File->close, or open another file after or during the playback (Via File-> open, or PageUp/PageDown, etc), the whole player crashed.
Fixed in MPC-BE 1.7.0.46 (0cb3f1845).

[v0lt]

MPC Video Renderer 0.8.1.2230 (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/releases/tag/0.8.1)

Changes:
"RTX Video HDR" now works with 10-bit SDR video.
Fixed OSD and subtitle brightness adjustment for some cases.
Fixed playback of static DVD-Video menu when frame rate doubling deinterlacing is active.
Expanded support for "Super Resolution" to 1440p.
Changed input format statistics for Dolby Vision.
Improved handling of input format changes.
Recommended MPC-BE 1.7.0.19 or newer.

PS: MPC Video Renderer 0.8.1 is included in the MPC-BE 1.7.0.57 installer.

[Scoty]

I get for 2 days my first HDR OLED Monitor (ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM). This Monitor have 1000 Nits which is very good and much more then my LG OLED C1. I use the latest MPC-BE with latest MPC Video Renderer 0.8.1.2230. Which setting i need to have the best HDR Performace with MPC-BE and MPC Video Renderer? Or is a other Video Renderer better? I use Onboard GPU from my RYzen 7800X3D.
I use this Settings for now but sometime when i use Fullscreen HDR not work. In Windows Mode is working good.

https://i.ibb.co/F4sFn56/Screenshot-2024-05-05-105957.png (https://ibb.co/F4sFn56)

[v0lt]

Release MPC-BE 1.7.1 (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/releases/tag/1.7.1)

Important changes:
Fixed freezing during navigation on some MP4 files.
Fixed a crash when using XySubFilter and MPC VR in DX11 mode in some cases.
MPC Video Renderer 0.8.1 is included in the installer.

MPC-BE Nightly builds (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/wiki/Nightly-builds)
Night builds are provided by volunteers.

Donate (https://mpc-be.org/forum/index.php?topic=240.0).

[hajj_3]

Release MPC-BE 1.7.1 (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/releases/tag/1.7.1)

Important changes:
Fixed freezing during navigation on some MP4 files.
Fixed a crash when using XySubFilter and MPC VR in DX11 mode in some cases.
MPC Video Renderer 0.8.1 is included in the installer.

MPC-BE Nightly builds (https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE/wiki/Nightly-builds)
Night builds are provided by volunteers.

Donate (https://mpc-be.org/forum/index.php?topic=240.0).

You didn't update mediainfo to v24.04, still uses v24.03.

[Aleksoid1978]

You didn't update mediainfo to v24.04, still uses v24.03.

So what ? Are there any problems with the current version of MI?

[ryrynz]

You didn't update mediainfo to v24.04, still uses v24.03.The nightly will have it soon enough. Won't be anything important missed, touch grass.

[v0lt]

You didn't update mediainfo to v24.04, still uses v24.03.
That will happen next time. Maybe.

[ashlar42]

Just testing MPC-VR and am having some problems with trying to figure out how to get my settings correct so that the video levels follow what I am doing with madVR. After lots of testing, with the help of many suggestions (on AVS and other places) that are not madVR specific, I have my chain set up as Limited -> Full -> Limited:

madVR TV Levels (16-235) -> NVIDIA GPU Full (0-255) -> TV Limited

Can I, and if so how, do this with MPC-VR? I cannot find the equivalent output level setting. There's a setting in the Video Decoder for setting the RGB output levels, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. Is MPC-VR output Full only? The only thing that seems to stop my blacks from being completely crushed is to change my TV black level settings to Full, but this would be changing my whole chain to Full -> Full -> Full.

I only use this (OLED) TV as a HTPC display. I don't mind that the levels are restricted and it is set to limited as instructed for calibration (ColourSpace ZRO) so I don't really want to change it if possible. I do want to change from madVR though, so would prefer to switch to something like MPC-VR. Does anybody know if this is possible?

Since I use an OLED display, whose calibration workflow in ColourSpace (full registered product, not Zero) suggests calibrating to Limited, I am interested in an answer to this question.
Is this something that could be done through shaders? If yes, how? I have zero knowledge about those... :-/

[huhn]

even if you calibrate in limited range full range will be calibrated too.
just set it to full range and let displaycal verify the results.
why even use that software...

[wyup]

Hi, about MPC Video Renderer: how does the automatic HDR10 to SDR conversion work? Does it use any pixel shading LUT? Are maxCLL/maxFALL metadata values taken into account for tone-mapping?
How much is Dolby Vision decoding supported?
Does MPC-VR allow Windows color management, monitor ICC profile?
mpc offers different tone-mapping algorithms, will MPC-VR allow for bt.2446a (HDR10, DV), st2094-40 (HDR10+)?
libplacebo library has native Dolby Vision decoding and tone-mapping (Profile 5, BL), supports Direct3D 11, color management, custom shading.. Is it possible implementing it in MPC-VR?
Thanks for the good work.

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi, about MPC Video Renderer: how does the automatic HDR10 to SDR conversion work? Does it use any pixel shading LUT? Are maxCLL/maxFALL metadata values taken into account for tone-mapping?
How much is Dolby Vision decoding supported?
Does MPC-VR allow Windows color management, monitor ICC profile?
mpc offers different tone-mapping algorithms, will MPC-VR allow for bt.2446a (HDR10, DV), st2094-40 (HDR10+)?
libplacebo library has native Dolby Vision decoding and tone-mapping (Profile 5, BL), supports Direct3D 11, color management, custom shading.. Is it possible implementing it in MPC-VR?
Thanks for the good work.

HDR to SDR - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer/blob/master/Shaders/d3d11/ps_convert_pq_to_sdr.hlsl
Dolby Vision supported profile 5 and 8, MPC VR convert DV to PQ.
MPC-VR support D3D11, post-resize shaders.