Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[Aleksoid1978]

Qotscha
Try to reset settings.

[Qotscha]

Qotscha
Try to reset settings.

Tried with 4378, 4488 (stable), and 4508, all x64. Still takes about 5 seconds (sometimes almost ten) to launch. 4373 starts instantly.

[kissglay]

When playing a dvd ISO, can't load external subtitle through menu item (grayed out) or CTRL + L, but can be done by drag & drop the subtitle.
BTW, I only tested with a DVD ISO without its own subtitles.

[Aleksoid1978]

Tried with 4378, 4488 (stable), and 4508, all x64. Still takes about 5 seconds (sometimes almost ten) to launch. 4373 starts instantly.

Fantasy :) For me load <=1 sec.

P.S. Do you have CD/DVD/BD-Rom ??
Try this - start MPC-BE, show playlist and delete "Explorer".

[Arm3nian]

1 - reset settings.
2 - try without LAV and madVR.

The problem was with madVR, as no crashes with EVR. But it seems to have been fixed with the latest MPC-BE and LAV builds.

[tormento]

Fantasy :)
We are at least two users who have this issue.

I use (and abuse) dozens of programs on Windows and MPCBE is the only one that gives me that delay.

I'd like to have some feedback from authors, not "funny" comments from users. If more info about OS, drivers, logs whatever is needed, I can provide.

[Aleksoid1978]

We are at least two users who have this issue.

I use (and abuse) dozens of programs on Windows and MPCBE is the only one that gives me that delay.

I'd like to have some feedback from authors, not "funny" comments from users. If more info about OS, drivers, logs whatever is needed, I can provide.
I write what need to do, about playlist.

[tormento]

I write what need to do, about playlist.
My playlist is empty.

[Aleksoid1978]

My playlist is empty.

Do you have "explorer" tab ?? Show screenshot of playlist.

[Manni]

I'd like to have some feedback from authors, not "funny" comments from users. If more info about OS, drivers, logs whatever is needed, I can provide.

Just so you know, Aleksoid1978 *is* one of the main authors of MPC-BE, along with V0lt.

[Qotscha]

P.S. Do you have CD/DVD/BD-Rom ??
Try this - start MPC-BE, show playlist and delete "Explorer".

This helped. I don't have an optical drive installed but apparently an SSD and five HDDs were causing the startup delay with "Explorer" playlist not deleted.

[tormento]

Do you have "explorer" tab ?? Show screenshot of playlist.
Sorry, I was checking wrong version.

Tested latest nightly and your solution works.

I suggest to avoid creating explorer tab as default in newer versions.

[BetA13]

maybe it was overread..

regarding Subtitles....

"And for vobsubs, would there be another way to modify the subs? as in using a different subtitle renderer????"

Thanks for any answers...

[huhn]

no they are images you can't change them easily. turning them into text first is usually the first thing that is done to change these types of subs.

[BetA13]

oki doki..
Thank you very much for that Answer.. i guess i now understand how subtitle formats work..

Thanks again for teh quick response :)

CHEERS

[lvqcl]

But do you have the slow startup on the build stated (4378)?
Nope.
P.S.: the issue is solved already, it seems.

[kissglay]

When playing a dvd ISO, can't load external subtitle through menu item (grayed out) or CTRL + L, but can be done by drag & drop the subtitle.
BTW, I only tested with a DVD ISO without its own subtitles.
Is this a bug or what?
MPC-HC can do this through menu item or CTRL + L

[ryrynz]

Will the test builds be switching to GGC 8.3.0 for ffmpeg like the 1.5.3 release?

[Qotscha]

This helped. I don't have an optical drive installed but apparently an SSD and five HDDs were causing the startup delay with "Explorer" playlist not deleted.

Correction: It was a floppy drive, not hard drives, which was causing the delay. Disabling floppy drive in Windows device manager made MPC BE to launch instantly even with "Explorer" playlist not being deleted.

[juffi]

My setup: MPC-HC / MPC-BE (v1.5.3, build 4455), LAV Filters (0.73.1.30-git), MadVR. Intel NUC7i3BNK, Intel i3-7100U, Intel graphics driver 25.20.100.6618. Windows 10 Pro 1809.

3D MVC used to work a few week ago with the earlier Intel driver (v 6577). Now, when I start playback of an iso image, MPC-BE says: "Starting playback crashed". After 10 seconds or so playback starts without any audio. Changing playback position, and most any change, freezes playback completely. Closing the application thru task manager.

3D playback works nicely with Kodi. PowerDVD works but there is strange motion judder.

Is this LAV Filters problem or something else? Maybe caused by a Windows 10 change.

[ryrynz]

Sounds like a system issue. Try internal filters just to confirm. You may wish to restore your system/revert recent changes.

[juffi]

Sounds like a system issue. Try internal filters just to confirm. You may wish to restore your system/revert recent changes.

Internal filters work nicely (after I found the MVC setting). So there is a problem in LAV Filters current version.

[Grimsdyke]

Sorry guys if this had been asked before, but is there a fork of BE using LAV as internal filters ??

[lvqcl]

What's the point in it?

[v0lt]

...
I suggest to avoid creating explorer tab as default in newer versions.
Implemented in r4518.

[Charky]

Quick question : does MPC-BE built in subtitle search engine (shortcut : D key) still work ?

I get "No subtitles found" on every file even when there should be results, I get them when I look for them manually on opensubtitles.org...

My files are not even renamed or anything.

[v0lt]

@Charky
I do not recommend using the search for subtitles on the online database in any MPC. I would delete it from MPC-BE, but people use it (I do not understand how).

[Charky]

Oh, okay then :)

That's a shame, auto search and download subtitles is a useful feature. Kodi's implementation of it works really well, but I guess it's easier to do for them because the movies and TV episodes are properly identified, while MPC-BE can only use the filename to look for the right file.

And of course, auto search and download subtitles doesn't work in Kodi if you use an external player such as MPC-BE :D

Guess I'll have to keep doing it manually for a while ;)

[ryrynz]

is there a fork of BE using LAV as internal filters ??

The only thing you're doing by disabling the internal filters is using up a bit of extra disk space.

[Klaus1189]

ryrynz is right, the internal filters only require very little disc space. If you don't want to use the internal filters, just use external LAV Filters or whatever you prefer.

[fzok4234]

I created the m3u playlist containing another playlist's path like the following.


dir\sub1.m3u
dir\sub2.m3u
dir\sub3.m3u


I tried to play this playlist. But MPC-BE Cannot play media files contained in sub1.m3u, sub2.m3u, sub3.m3u.

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 1809
MPC-BE: 1.5.3 (build 4456) beta

[Aleksoid1978]

I created the m3u playlist containing another playlist's path like the following.


dir\sub1.m3u
dir\sub2.m3u
dir\sub3.m3u


I tried to play this playlist. But MPC-BE Cannot play media files contained in sub1.m3u, sub2.m3u, sub3.m3u.

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 1809
MPC-BE: 1.5.3 (build 4456) beta

Open only one playlist.

[fzok4234]

MPC-BE can play each sub m3u playlist individually.

And I just noticed that the root playlist has only one line, it work just as I intended.

root.m3u :

dir\sub1.m3u



I have a lot of such nested playlists and MPC-HC or previous versions MPC-BE (1.5.1) can play them. But after I upadted MPC-BE to 1.5.3 4456, the symptom began to occur.

[steakhutzeee]

Hi :)

Updated to 1.5.4 (build 4521) beta, i use madvr and lav filters. Every time i'm in full screen and i right click, i see the screen flashing black one time.
How can i avoid this? In madvr settings i have the delay switch to exclusive mode disabled. With a previous version of mpc be i had no issue like this.

Thanks in advance!

[v0lt]

With a previous version of mpc be i had no issue like this.
Which latest version has no problem?

[steakhutzeee]

Which latest version has no problem?Don't remember, it was 41xx if I'm not wrong.

[Klaus1189]

You can try first r4100 if it is still fine, perhaps any other change like driver update is the culprit.

Then you try r4300 for searching the possible changed revision and its commit.
If 4100 is fine and 4300 is not fine, the possible change was between 4100 and 4300. Then pick 4200 and check.
If 4100 and 4300 is fine, the possible change was between 4300 and 4521. Then pick 4400 and check.
Then go on. I‘ve done this already in my MPC-HC time before MPC-BE was created.

[v0lt]

I suggest to check 1.5.3.4373 (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.3/1.5.3.4373).

[Aleksoid1978]

In r4382 prevent parse .m3u from .m3u, but working only if .m3u have one entry with other .m3u

[peter0815x]

hi
and sorry for interrupt



i have a small dvd problem.
mpc be will feeze with some dvds for about 10 sec before playing the movie.

the good news i guess i know what causes the issue.
question how to solve it :-)

the problem happens only with mpc audio render
NOT with directsound system default render.
(i use mpc audio render to use wasapi output to play dvd movies with 48khz frequency)


here the problem :
when i use mpc audio render and i play some dvds and i press "start" in the dvd menu
mpc be will freeze for about 10 sec before playing the movie.
then dvd plays normal without issues.
i tested several dvds.
i guess i found the problem:

mpc be will freeze for about 10 sec ONLY when the dvds have no audio output during intro and menu.
dvds which have sound during intro or dvd menu will not freeze when i press start in the menu.



hope u understand the problem :-)
when i use mpc audio render and i play dvds which will have no audio output during intro and menu
mpc be will freeze for about 10 sec before playing the movie.

when i play dvds which will have sound during intro or menu
playback of the movie will start immediately when i press start in dvd menu.

when i use direct sound audio render all dvds no matter if they have sound during intro and menu or not will start immediately.


changing wasapi from exclusive to shared and changing buffer default or 50 ms or 100ms had no effect on the problem.
playing other movies like mkv, mp4 etc. with 48khz have no freezing problem with mpc audio render
only dvds when they have no audio during intro or menu will cause the 10 sec freeze.


(a log window like vlc has would be good to see what mpc be is doing during the 10 sec freeze)

[Aleksoid1978]

Upload small DVD and i check.

[peter0815x]

here is one of these dvds

pw is : Anomie

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/VCRR1Z6P7T0G
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/QJNX1Z6PO9
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/DPH32Z6PCX1
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/XJU13Z6PLX
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/GOP73Z6PO0V
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/UGKD3Z6P4QVW
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/3XFJ3Z6PUROZ
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/5XAP3Z6P78K
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/PFZQ3Z6PVGB

[Aleksoid1978]

here is one of these dvds

pw is : Anomie

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/VCRR1Z6P7T0G
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/QJNX1Z6PO9
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/DPH32Z6PCX1
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/XJU13Z6PLX
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/GOP73Z6PO0V
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/UGKD3Z6P4QVW
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/3XFJ3Z6PUROZ
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/5XAP3Z6P78K
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/PFZQ3Z6PVGB

No-no, it's very bad and slow.

[peter0815x]

okidoki
which file hoster should i use ?
(in the past i used zippyshare but seems its down)
i ll reupload the dvd



i found another problem :-)
i have a mp4 video which is played in wrong format
instead of 16:9 it looks like 3:9

from over 1000+ files its the only one with that problem
but other players play it correct.
may be u want to take a look at this as well.

[Aleksoid1978]

I created the m3u playlist containing another playlist's path like the following.


dir\sub1.m3u
dir\sub2.m3u
dir\sub3.m3u


I tried to play this playlist. But MPC-BE Cannot play media files contained in sub1.m3u, sub2.m3u, sub3.m3u.

OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 1809
MPC-BE: 1.5.3 (build 4456) beta

Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/J-eqOd72Clu64g

[Aleksoid1978]

okidoki
which file hoster should i use ?
(in the past i used zippyshare but seems its down)
i ll reupload the dvd



i found another problem :-)
i have a mp4 video which is played in wrong format
instead of 16:9 it looks like 3:9

from over 1000+ files its the only one with that problem
but other players play it correct.
may be u want to take a look at this as well.

1 - zippyshare is working. Or you can google drive.
2 - upload problem .mp4 - i look.

[Schattenspieler]

(in the past i used zippyshare but seems its down)
Na, they're just blocking IP adresses from UK and germany vor now. Using a proxy or VPN it's still accessable. But you should probably still use another OCH.

[fzok4234]

Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/J-eqOd72Clu64g

Thanks. This build worked just as I intended.

[fzok4234]

Try this build - https://yadi.sk/d/J-eqOd72Clu64g

By the way I tested another playlist formats.

1: root.asx

<ASX Version = "3.0">
<Title>Test</Title>

<Entry><Ref href="sub1.asx"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.asx"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.m3u"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.m3u"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.m3u8"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.m3u8"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.mpcpl"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.mpcpl"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.pls"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.pls"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.wpl"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.wpl"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub1.xspf"></Ref></Entry>
<Entry><Ref href="sub2.xspf"></Ref></Entry>

</ASX>



All sub playlists were not played.

2: root.m3u

sub1.asx
sub2.asx
sub1.m3u
sub2.m3u
sub1.m3u8
sub2.m3u8
sub1.mpcpl
sub2.mpcpl
sub1.pls
sub2.pls
sub1.wpl
sub2.wpl
sub1.xspf
sub2.xspf


Only sub1.m3u, sub2.m3u, sub1.m3u8, sub2.m3u8 were played.

3: root.m3u8

sub1.asx
sub2.asx
sub1.m3u
sub2.m3u
sub1.m3u8
sub2.m3u8
sub1.mpcpl
sub2.mpcpl
sub1.pls
sub2.pls
sub1.wpl
sub2.wpl
sub1.xspf
sub2.xspf


Only sub1.m3u, sub2.m3u, sub1.m3u8, sub2.m3u8 were played.

4: root.mpcpl

MPCPLAYLIST
1,type,0
1,filename,sub1.asx
2,type,0
2,filename,sub2.asx
3,type,0
3,filename,sub1.m3u
4,type,0
4,filename,sub2.m3u
5,type,0
5,filename,sub1.m3u8
6,type,0
6,filename,sub2.m3u8
7,type,0
7,filename,sub1.mpcpl
8,type,0
8,filename,sub2.mpcpl
9,type,0
9,filename,sub1.pls
10,type,0
10,filename,sub2.pls
11,type,0
11,filename,sub1.wpl
12,type,0
12,filename,sub2.wpl
13,type,0
13,filename,sub1.xspf
14,type,0
14,filename,sub2.xspf


All sub playlists were not played.

5: root.pls

[playlist]
File0=sub1.asx
File1=sub2.asx
File2=sub1.m3u
File3=sub2.m3u
File4=sub1.m3u8
File5=sub2.m3u8
File6=sub1.mpcpl
File7=sub2.mpcpl
File8=sub1.pls
File9=sub2.pls
File10=sub1.wpl
File11=sub2.wpl
File12=sub1.xspf
File13=sub2.xspf
NumberOfEntries=14
Version=2



All sub playlists were not played.

6: root.wpl

<?wpl version="1.0"?>
<smil>
<head>
<title>Test</title>

</head>

<body>
<seq>
<media src="sub1.asx"></media>
<media src="sub2.asx"></media>
<media src="sub1.m3u"></media>
<media src="sub2.m3u"></media>
<media src="sub1.m3u8"></media>
<media src="sub2.m3u8"></media>
<media src="sub1.mpcpl"></media>
<media src="sub2.mpcpl"></media>
<media src="sub1.pls"></media>
<media src="sub2.pls"></media>
<media src="sub1.wpl"></media>
<media src="sub2.wpl"></media>
<media src="sub1.xspf"></media>
<media src="sub2.xspf"></media>

</seq>

</body>

</smil>



All sub playlists were not played.

7: root.xspf

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<playlist version="1" xmlns="http://xspf.org/ns/0/">
<title>Root Playlist</title>
<creator>Test Artist</creator>

<trackList>
<track><location>sub1.asx</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.asx</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.m3u</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.m3u</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.m3u8</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.m3u8</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.mpcpl</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.mpcpl</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.pls</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.pls</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.wpl</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.wpl</location></track>
<track><location>sub1.xspf</location></track>
<track><location>sub2.xspf</location></track>

</trackList>

</playlist>



All sub playlists were not played.


In summary, only .m3u/.m3u8 -> .m3u/.m3u8 patterns worked exactly. I want MPC-BE to parse all patterns of playlists.

[Aleksoid1978]

fzok4234
I want MPC-BE to parse all patterns of playlists.
Why ??