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Lester Burnham
23rd January 2010, 14:45
I'm partial to XviD4PSP
+1
I've found xvid4psp a great convertor. That and autogk tend to be what I use to go down from DVDs for more portable usage.
Pudah
26th January 2010, 10:05
(and would never) use Handbrake for anything
Just out of curiosity, why?
manono
27th January 2010, 15:41
The guy makes things seem more difficult than they really are. The guy invents new terms for things already named. The guy steals names and uses them for different things than originally intended. The guy uses linux apps rather than the much better AviSynth. The guy makes it seem like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, the answer to every newbie's dreams. But to be able to use his program effectively you have to know what you have and how to treat it, what with all the choices available. But if you already know that, you don't need his program to begin with.
Plenty of people like the program. I just don't happen to be one of them.
kis2005
10th February 2010, 00:06
manano - It is funny that you say that I thought I was missing something. I have had issues with it being more complicated than it needed to be and his remarks regarding dropping the AVI format came off a little snippy. I still use AGK for almost all of my movies and I have SAPs that will play them. In fact it might not have been the intended use, but I chose it because there were players for AVI's with XviD.
manono
10th February 2010, 03:24
Yeah, my standalone only plays AVIs (and DVDs) as well. But what with all the external media players and even standalones just around the corner that play other formats, I'm afraid that the AVI is on the way out. My next player will play the newer formats, for sure.
azmoth
14th February 2010, 16:24
In regard to what you said Manono what I meant to say was regarding bug fixes, features, etc. H264 has never bothered me that much since almost everyone out there who fancies himself as an encoder after using Handbrake babbles on it is The FORMAT yet playback is very little regarding supported hardware.
I have moved away from Handbrake: Try telling that over at the Handbrake forum site or ask why was xvid support scrapped? Under a different name I once posted where is the supported hardware, got told loads out there but no evidence. Google it, Amazon it no hardware like an external dvd player for TV playback exists as yet.
Much better option for me now is Automen. The GUI is excellent. Great app and supports MVK container with H264/aac as input source now, if you want to re-encode to avi!
And I disagree AVI is not on the way out, well at least not just yet! Over 60% + of stuff out there is avi based! However, if the hardware support comes then avi may well as be dead!
Mixer73
15th February 2010, 13:28
And I disagree AVI is not on the way out, well at least not just yet! Over 60% + of stuff out there is avi based! However, if the hardware support comes then avi may well as be dead!
Dude, try the WDTV or ANY of the clones, theres hundreds of them, and they all play h264 files in both MP4 and MKV containers.
If you walked into a computer shop I'd think you'd have trouble not tripping over one.
As for hardware support, almost all smart phones, ipods, iphones, set top boxes... Heard of PS3 or Xbox360? More hardware supports h264 than has ever supported MPEG4/AVI.
azmoth
15th February 2010, 22:38
Quote:If you walked into a computer shop I'd think you'd have trouble not tripping over one.
NO WAY in limited and technology backward UK, maybe in US/Japan like where I think you are coming from. Why do you think I mention this? What little we have is old stock and 3 times the mark up on your brands!!!
Quote
As for hardware support, almost all smart phones, ipods, iphones, set top boxes... Heard of PS3 or Xbox360? More hardware supports h264 than has ever supported MPEG4/AVI.
HD TV here has some brands sporting usb port support with limited support of MP4 but it is in its infancy and has juddery picture. I do know of xbox and ipods and they are limited. No 6 channel suport in xbox and who the hell can stand watching a movie on an ipod for God's sake or their mobile. I'm talking about real hardware support for TV playback not PC hardware. You guys in Northern America are so lucky! Have a nice day now.
Mixer73
16th February 2010, 13:36
NO WAY in limited and technology backward UK, maybe in US/Japan like where I think you are coming from. Why do you think I mention this? What little we have is old stock and 3 times the mark up on your brands!!!
Dude I am from fucking Australia, nowhere is more backwards or more badly marked up than here.
I guarantee you can get 100% perfect playback of a great quality h264 file for under $200 USD equivalent. You just need to look.
WDTV is under A$200, should be less than $99 USD, or equivalent $100 GBP.
azmoth
16th February 2010, 14:06
[QUOTE=Mixer73;1374647]Dude I am from fucking Australia, nowhere is more backwards or more badly marked up than here.
As you quaintly put it somewhere more backwards or overpriced from UK! Not a great advertisement for emigration. :) Come here especially London it is just as bad without the nice weather!:)
I can believe it as a friend of mine says your prices are astronomical.
Anyway I will have to look!
Mixer73
21st March 2010, 00:40
Hey guys,
I haven't used AGK for ages because of doing h264 encoding, but I have a bit of a backlog so i thought I'd whiz through a few with AutoGK, but it seems some of my videos just are not deinterlacing. I turned on Force Deinterlacing when detecting hybrid source, is there something else that might affect deinterlacing from PAL DVB-T sources?
mmfy
22nd April 2010, 15:15
Hi - I've been using autoGK for months without a hitch but recently something has gone awry with the audio conversion of my MPEG-2 files (TV captures).. for some reason no matter what i do (clean install of codecs, autoGK, removing other apps & codec packs etc) when I do an encode of MPEG-2 --> AVI autoGK will NOT encode my audio no matter what!
The audio is read from the stream as an "Audio stream 0 MPEG" and no matter what option i choose in the advanced options menu (auto, VBR or CBR) the app picks "Original" for the Audio 1 settings ( a wasteful 2 chan 384 kbps MP2 stream)... help!
I haven't found anyone else having that issue online so far and I did a search here but couldn't find nay similar issues (most ppl have sync problems it seems).
Funnily enough I cleaned out my codec packs, and all my encoders, did clean installs of
1. autoGK + full package alone
2. GK rip & codec packages
And it still won't work.
I ca get the compression to MP3 easily using anything else (fairuse wizard 2, GK, handbrake, virtualdubmod - from the autoGK folder no less) yet once I try to use autoGK it doesn't work.
Now I know I could sue any of those progs to do what I need to, but I'm used to autoGK and it is MUHC easier for me to queue file conversions using it (I do batches). GK is good if I want complex settings, but takes too long to set up a single encode (I'm doing like seasons of shows)..plus i get great results from autoGK, so i would love if anyone can figure out why my auto GK just won't encode audio! The MPEG-2 stream is like 384 kbps and just wasting space and reducing my video bitrate using autoGK as is...
The problem then developed: I tried an encode and now I keep getting "EXCEPTION range error" on every encode I try with autoGK - googling seems to imply this might be a codec issue (lame mp3 i'm guessing??). I clean all my packs etc again and reinstall only the autoGK package (windows 7). Here is a sample log.:
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] AutoGK 2.55
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] OS: Windows Vista (6.0.6002).2
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Job started.
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Input file: C:\Users\Public\Videos\Recorded TV\intros\Fluffy.Gardens.INTRO.mpg
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Output file: C:\Users\Public\Videos\Recorded TV\intros\Fluffy.Gardens.INTRO.avi
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Output codec: XviD
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Audio 1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Subtitles: none
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Format: AVI
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Target quality: 75%
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Audio 1 settings: Original
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Started encoding.
[13/04/2010 06:43:37 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[13/04/2010 06:43:38 PM] Processing file: C:\Users\Public\Videos\Recorded TV\intros\Fluffy.Gardens.INTRO.mpg
[13/04/2010 06:43:38 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[13/04/2010 06:43:38 PM] Found NTSC source.
[13/04/2010 06:43:38 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[13/04/2010 06:43:38 PM] Analyzing source.
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 53.65
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 26.23
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 13.11
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 60.66
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[13/04/2010 06:43:49 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Found threshold of: 0.01
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Output will contain 605 frames
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Picking up autocrop parameters.
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Running single pass encoding.
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Users\Public\Videos\Recorded TV\intros\agk_tmp\Fluffy.Gardens.INTRO_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
movie = mpeg2source("C:\Users\Public\Videos\Recorded TV\intros\agk_tmp\Fluffy.Gardens.INTRO.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=0.01)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Range check error
*************************************
[13/04/2010 06:43:52 PM] Job finished. Total time: 14 seconds
The red bit is my original issue as I'm telling the program to use CBR @ 128 kbps!! Now it can't even encode (blue bit - a reinstall after using ccleaner registry cleaner didn't help)...tearing out my hair here!
BigDid
23rd April 2010, 18:20
Hi,
1/Can you post a sample of the mpeg source (with audio) to see if your audio problem is reproductible?
2/ For "Range check error"; you did not say so but did you looked at FAQ 6.8?
For clean re-install (FAQ 6.31):
- de-install AGK
- clean registers
- re-install AutoGK only
Did
mmfy
26th April 2010, 15:29
Hi,
1/Can you post a sample of the mpeg source (with audio) to see if your audio problem is reproductible?
2/ For "Range check error"; you did not say so but did you looked at FAQ 6.8?
For clean re-install (FAQ 6.31):
- de-install AGK
- clean registers
- re-install AutoGK only
Did
Thanks for the advice BigDid but I did all that twice...uninstalled everything (all codecs and progs that encode including autoGK) cleaned registry with ccleaner and then reinstalled - no dice. I will see if I can post a sample though truth be told I've tried with over 10 different MPEG sources and just cannot get anything other than MPEG-2 audio prior to the range error problem.
@ azmoth - I'll give that portable version a try as I'm desperate and can't bother reformatting anything! HB has been going Ok but has no preview feature in the last version that supprots xvid :/
mzhu026
29th June 2010, 02:06
I have Windows 7 64-bit and I can't make the external subs input pop out. I've tried the control+F9 buttons along with other ones and it doesn't sense to be working. Also, I've make my Program Files accessible to everyone along with the administration i think. I really need help. Thank you! BTW I'll try to supply more information when someone responds :thanks:
BigDid
8th July 2010, 21:42
My question is: do you have to enable autocrop in options to make it work or does it work naturally by default?
Hi,
Yes it works by default.
If you do a preview without setting it, previews shows no notification, but loads it if you enable it in options and AutoGK notifies the user. I always thought it is enabled automatically when you encode?
See tutorial, Preview:
" The Preview will play the cropped and resized movie in WMP 6.4 for you. It should look fairly similar to the way your completed .avi (encoded movie) will appear (but resolution might not be the same)... "
See tutorial, Autocrop, in hidden options:
"Sometimes auto crop used with default parameters by AutoGK cannot totally remove black bars or removes too much of a movie material. In this case "Tune auto crop parameters" is very handy..."
Did
yetanotherid
20th October 2010, 16:43
I have Windows 7 64-bit and I can't make the external subs input pop out. I've tried the control+F9 buttons along with other ones and it doesn't sense to be working. Also, I've make my Program Files accessible to everyone along with the administration i think. I really need help. Thank you! BTW I'll try to supply more information when someone responds :thanks:
It should be Ctrl+F8.
manono
24th October 2010, 16:14
Explain a little. It says Ctrl+F9 in FAQ, and this works as it should. Where are you coming from with F8?
Are we reading the same FAQ?
3.8 I have my own text/vobsub subs for the movie. Can I burn them into AVI?
- Yes, CTRL-F8
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=72679
CTRL-F9 is to access the Hidden Options.
yetanotherid
26th October 2010, 09:23
Comment removed
Last edited by manono; Yesterday at 18:37. Reason: too inflammatory and added nothing to the discussion
When I read the question it was asked of me and requested me to explain my reply. I apologise for also offering my theory as to why it was asked, even though the fact that the question seems to have disappeared confirms my theory as to the real motivation for asking it.
Marshy
28th October 2010, 18:20
:D:D:D
:readfaq:
azmoth
30th October 2010, 12:02
Comment removed
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=14432
:D
datauser
18th November 2010, 16:09
I am curious to know if it is it possible to get the latest xvid 1.2.2 with Dan Shakari VAQ patch to work with AutoK? I have read FAQ carefully and it says later builds should be possible.
My test files keep coming up undersized and compressions tests are very low along with resolutions using auto. From this other xvid later builds appear incompatible, despite advice from FAQ.
:)
yetanotherid
19th November 2010, 19:55
I am curious to know if it is it possible to get the latest xvid 1.2.2 with Dan Shakari VAQ patch to work with AutoK? I have read FAQ and it says later builds are possible.
AutoGK 2.55 includes XviD 1.2.1 which includes a VAQ patch.
Is there a major difference between it and version 1.2.2 ?
My test files keep coming up undersized and compressions tests are very low along with resolutions using auto. From this clearly other xvid later builds are not compatible despite FAQ saying otherwise.
Do you have either of the standalone compatibility options enabled in hidden preferences? It doesn't work properly with all versions of XviD and does cause undersized problems. I'm not sure about it's effect on compression test results though.
When you say compression tests are very low I assume the result is different when using the version of XviD which comes with AutoGK? Does AutoGK choose a different resolution than it would when using the original version of XviD?
If memory serves me correctly, when the resolution is set to auto, AutoGK runs the compression test using a width of 640, then adjusts the resolution according to the result. Which is why it might say compressibility is 85% (for example) then after picking a width of 704 it might say the expected first pass result is 70%. When you specify a width, the compressibility percentage and the expected first pass result should be the same (unless it uses a softer re-sizer or sharper matrix etc). Is that's what's happening if you specify the width?
What happens if you run a single pass encode (75%) specifying a particular width, then use the resulting file size to run a 2 pass encode using an auto width? Or a 2 pass encode using the same width? I guess if the 2 pass encodes give you completely different results you'll know something isn't right.
I'm not really sure what could be going wrong so I guess the above is more just some ideas to maybe help you find the cause.
Oh, and did you uninstall the original version of XviD before installing the new one?
Wu-Tang
8th March 2011, 18:56
Hi guys.
Please help me.
I'm ripping film with subtitles, but I can't enable/disable their in avi and I want to may enable/disable their.
My prefs:
http://s001.radikal.ru/i194/1103/09/7aceb3a6d98bt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s001.radikal.ru/i194/1103/09/7aceb3a6d98b.jpg.html)
http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1103/0c/9b32cc8ad44dt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s008.radikal.ru/i304/1103/0c/9b32cc8ad44d.jpg.html)
http://i062.radikal.ru/1103/d0/74fdbd5991d6t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i062.radikal.ru/1103/d0/74fdbd5991d6.jpg.html)
Sample (http://rghost.ru/4684380) subtitles don't disable!!!
Which prefs to do that subtitles may be enable/disable in avi?
Thanks...
kalehrl
8th March 2011, 19:41
Your question is a bit confusing.
If you want to be able to enable/disable subtitles during playback, you will have to rip subtitles with external program such as vobsub.
Autogk can only burn subtitles on the image.
Wu-Tang
8th March 2011, 23:27
And how to do, if I have file with subtitles?
But subtitles must be in avi container!!!
manono
9th March 2011, 00:11
Your question is a bit confusing.
If you want to be able to enable/disable subtitles during playback, you will have to rip subtitles with external program such as vobsub.
Autogk can only burn subtitles on the image.
Not quite correct. AutoGK can both create the VobSubs and keep them external as well. They don't have to be burned into the video. Just go into the Advanced Settings, Subtitle Options, Use External Subtitles. Ignore the warning (answer 'yes').
And how to do, if I have file with subtitles?
But subtitles must be in avi container!!!
AutoGK can hardcode or burn the subs into the video, or it can keep them separate. If you want them muxed into the AVI, you'll have to do that afterwards using a separate program.
If you already have a subtitle file and want to burn it into the AVI, use the CTRL-F8 trick. Here's a guide:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/256625-How-to-add-permanent-subtitles-with-AutoGK-and-convert-to-AVI-DivX-or-XviD
Wu-Tang
9th March 2011, 01:06
manono
Do I need that checkbox?
http://s46.radikal.ru/i112/1103/22/9daa5d587e3bt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s46.radikal.ru/i112/1103/22/9daa5d587e3b.jpg.html)
AutoGK can hardcode or burn the subs into the video, or it can keep them separate. If you want them muxed into the AVI, you'll have to do that afterwards using a separate program.
And how to do it?
I want to be able to enable/disable subtitles during playback and main that subtitles will be inside avi container!
Don't near file of movie.
Now I have subtitles in *.idx and *.sub, can I to use their?
If you already have a subtitle file and want to burn it into the AVI, use the CTRL-F8 trick. Here's a guide:
I already read that thread...
manono
9th March 2011, 03:09
manono
Do I need that checkbox?
No, not usually. That's why it's a Hidden Option.
And how to do it?
Try AVIAddXSubs. It can mux SRTs and IDX/SUB VobSubs:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AVIAddXSubs
kalehrl
9th March 2011, 14:58
Just go into the Advanced Settings, Subtitle Options, Use External Subtitles.
When I do so I get an error message "winrar is not found..." even though it is installed.
It must be my windows7 64bit problem but I never bothered to solve it because I used vobsub.
manono
9th March 2011, 23:22
When I do so I get an error message "winrar is not found..." even though it is installed.
It must be my windows7 64bit problem but I never bothered to solve it because I used vobsub.
See if this thread helps to solve the problem:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154468
Wu-Tang
10th March 2011, 00:47
manono
Try AVIAddXSubs. It can mux SRTs and IDX/SUB VobSubs:
Great thanks!
And where do i can ask about that program?
manono
10th March 2011, 01:12
And where do i can ask about that program?
Maybe in the AVIAddXSubs thread in the Subtitles Forum here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125310
kalehrl
10th March 2011, 15:05
See if this thread helps to solve the problem:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154468
Thank you.
That did the trick!
Wu-Tang
10th March 2011, 23:48
Hi manono thanks
Still question.
Do i can know choose resolution before?
How to do not aggressive croping?
Taurus
11th March 2011, 09:44
@Wu-Tang
1.:???? You can choose any resolution on the main screen ????
2: Hidden options, autocrop values, set to zero, no cropping.
Just from my memory, never touched it...
And read the tutorial and the faqs.
Wu-Tang
11th March 2011, 14:54
Taurus
1.:???? You can choose any resolution on the main screen ????
No, no, I just wrote not correctly in post 4785.
How do i can know resolution of second side - height?
2: Hidden options, autocrop values, set to zero, no cropping.
Just from my memory, never touched it...
Ok
All sometime happens for the first time
And read the tutorial and the faqs.
I already know him by heart )))
manono
11th March 2011, 15:52
How do i can know resolution of second side - height?
You can't, in advance. AutoGK will choose the height for you. This keeps beginners from making mistakes.
Wu-Tang
11th March 2011, 21:31
manono
I understand, i just want to know for himself what second side will after conversion, that autogk choose the height, i know...
manono
12th March 2011, 01:08
You want to know the height after the AVI is complete? One way is to open the AVI in VDubMod (answer 'No' to the question) and go File->File Information. The first line will tell you the resolution
Wu-Tang
12th March 2011, 01:26
You want to know the height after the AVI is complete?
No, i want to know the height before the AVI is complete!
One way is to open the AVI in VDubMod (answer 'No' to the question) and go File->File Information. The first line will tell you the resolution
I know it course.
manono
12th March 2011, 02:05
No, i want to know the height before the AVI is complete!
I already told you it's not possible. I suppose you could check the log after the compression test to see what it's going to be.
Wu-Tang
12th March 2011, 03:10
Ok, thanks
Still why when i push preview and after the demuxing i see:
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/1103/de/bf408cbeec1ct.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s40.radikal.ru/i089/1103/de/bf408cbeec1c.jpg.html)
What i must to install?
manono
12th March 2011, 04:18
I believe the previews are all done using a 640 width, the same as the compression test. That doesn't have anything to do with the final resolution.
I don't know anything about the missing codec, since you have XviD installed. Maybe someone else can help.
CWR03
12th March 2011, 04:42
One option you have is to use Gordian Knot as a preview device, where you have a live view of the AR and what's been cropped. It also uses the width to set the height of the video, but the numbers are displayed (and can be transferred into AutoGK manually).
yetanotherid
12th March 2011, 05:55
If the width is set to auto I'm pretty sure 640 is used but if you set a fixed width, the selected width is used for the preview. You can check the height before AutoGK encodes. When the preview opens just select File/Properties in the media player to see the full dimensions.
AutoGK should never crop the height of the actual picture. Unless it gets the cropping worng for some reason it should only crop the black bars. AutoGK actually resizes and crops quite intelligently so it won't crop extra from the height or distort the aspect ratio to fit particular resized dimensions, so as long as it's not over-cropping for some reason (which it rarely does) there's actually no need to check the height of the video in advance. You only need to check that the cropping itself is correct and maybe adjust it manually if for some reason AutoGK gets it wrong, but if the cropping is correct (all of the black bars are removed and none of the picture has been touched) the height will take care of itself.
AutoGK actually crops the video twice. First it crops the black bars and then it resizes the video but it doesn't actually resize to the chosen width as such, it resizes to the closest matching height for the chosen width, then it crops any extra from the sides if necessary to maintain the aspect ratio. For example you might choose a width of 720, but without distorting the picture, and to give you a mod16 height, the resized dimensions might actually be 726x400. So then AutoGK will crop a little extra off the width to give you 720x400 rather than resize it with an aspect ratio error.
Hopefully I explained that well but you can see the cropping at work using the preview function. Set a fixed width of 720 and open a preview (if you deselect the audio first it'll just preview the video and so it'll be quicker). Keep the preview window open. Now change the width to 704 and open a second preview. You can now compare the two. Depending on the aspect ratio of the picture the first may be (for example) 720x416 while the second is 704x400. However if you ignore the difference in size you'll see the cropping of the height remains exactly the same and the aspect ratio of the actual picture is exactly the same for both previews (neither have been stretched or squashed in any way). The difference will be the way the sides of the video have been cropped. The 720x416 preview will actually have a little more cropped from the sides than the 704x400 preview. That's just an example but hopefully you get the idea.
The bottom line is unless AutoGK is over-cropping when it removes the black bars and is cropping part of the picture too, which it very rarely does, there's no need to second guess the height it's chosen or to try to work it out in advance. AutoGK resizes and crops more intelligently than any other conversion program. At least I prefer the way AutoGK does it.
The only other time AutoGK might get the height wrong is if it gets the input aspect ratio wrong, but that also rarely happens. When it does you fix it by specifying the input aspect ratio in AutoGK's hidden options rather than by trying to compensate with manual cropping.
I'm not sure why you're getting an error when opening the preview window but my first step to try to fix it would be to replace the ancient version of Media Player Classic which comes with AutoGK with the latest version of Media Player Classic Home Cinema. Inside the AutoGK installation folder there's a sub-folder called mpc which contains mplayerc.exe. Download Media Player Classic Home Cinema and rename it's exe to mplayerc.exe, then use it to replace the old AutoGK version of the player.
yetanotherid
12th March 2011, 06:40
One other thought. If you replace the old version of Media Player Classic you'll probably need to change one of it's options in order to open multiple previews at the same time. I'm pretty sure by default MPC-HC is set to open each video using the same player, which you don't won't. You need to change the option to "open a new player for each media file". That's a Media Player Classic Home Cinema option (from the View/Options menu), not an AutoGK setting.
While you're there, under Internal Filters and Transform filters, make sure every one is ticked. That should fix the error of not being able to find the correct filter.
Wu-Tang
13th March 2011, 01:55
manono
I believe the previews are all done using a 640 width, the same as the compression test. That doesn't have anything to do with the final resolution.
If preview 640*368 that after conversation the resolution may be others?
CWR03
One option you have is to use Gordian Knot as a preview device, where you have a live view of the AR and what's been cropped. It also uses the width to set the height of the video, but the numbers are displayed (and can be transferred into AutoGK manually).
How? If i see after push preview that:
http://radikal.ru/F/s40.radikal.ru/i089/1103/de/bf408cbeec1c.jpg.html
yetanotherid
Oh, thank you very much, i hope that translate your post correctly.
I'm not sure why you're getting an error when opening the preview window but my first step to try to fix it would be to replace the ancient version of Media Player Classic which comes with AutoGK with the latest version of Media Player Classic Home Cinema. Inside the AutoGK installation folder there's a sub-folder called mpc which contains mplayerc.exe. Download Media Player Classic Home Cinema and rename it's exe to mplayerc.exe, then use it to replace the old AutoGK version of the player.
Yes-yes-yes, i did it yet.
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/1103/ef/c40e47ed2ad9t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s54.radikal.ru/i146/1103/ef/c40e47ed2ad9.jpg.html)
http://s006.radikal.ru/i215/1103/60/53cba1b3401dt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s006.radikal.ru/i215/1103/60/53cba1b3401d.jpg.html)
One other thought. If you replace the old version of Media Player Classic you'll probably need to change one of it's options in order to open multiple previews at the same time. I'm pretty sure by default MPC-HC is set to open each video using the same player, which you don't won't. You need to change the option to "open a new player for each media file". That's a Media Player Classic Home Cinema option (from the View/Options menu), not an AutoGK setting.
While you're there, under Internal Filters and Transform filters, make sure every one is ticked. That should fix the error of not being able to find the correct filter.
I also did it!
Please look it, it's a new version:
http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/1103/08/10064fa4759bt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s49.radikal.ru/i123/1103/08/10064fa4759b.jpg.html)
About crop:
I have 4 parts of movie in dvd and autogk choose different resolution for each part. I choose fixed width 640 and second side after conversation different and movie identical! (640*272, 640*368, 640*384) I want have the second side identical!
How to achieve it?
manono
13th March 2011, 03:05
If preview 640*368 that after conversation the resolution may be others?
Yes, unless you choose a fixed width (which you might be doing?). AutoGK will adjust the final resolution depending on the results of the compression test. In addition, if you do a 1-pass target quality encode, unless you choose a fixed width, the final width will be 720.
yetanotherid
13th March 2011, 04:47
I had a problem at one stage getting MPC-HC to open AVISyth scripts. It seemed to only effect newer versions of the player but I guess it's possible your problem is related.
Try navigating to the AVISyth installation folder, then look in the plugins folder. By default, I think there's only two plugins:
DirectShowSource.dll and TCPDeliver.dll. If there's any other plugins, try moving them to a safe place and see if you can then preview a video.
At one stage I let ffdshow install some plugins but with them installed I couldn't use MPC-HC to open AVISynth scripts. Once I deleted them I could. I don't know why.
About crop:
I have 4 parts of movie in dvd and autogk choose different resolution for each part. I choose fixed width 640 and second side after conversation different and movie identical! (640*272, 640*368, 640*384) I want have the second side identical!
How to achieve it?
You'll have to manually adjust the cropping. It's not unusual for different video on a DVD to have different aspect ratios so AutoGK is probably cropping them correctly. If you want them to all be the same you'll have to manually crop extra from the height but you're going to have to crop a fair bit of picture because there's quite a difference between them. When you compare the encodes with the original video from the DVD, is all the picture still present? Is the height of the original DVD video all the same (ignoring any black bars)? If AutoGK didn't over-crop any of them.....
The 640*272 video is your starting point. You can't increase it's height unless you want to keep some of the black bars so you'll need to crop some extra picture from the other two.
With one of them open in AutoGK use CTRL+F9 to open it's hidden options. Tick the "Tune auto crop parameters" box. In the "Force cropping of" area increase the cropping of the top and bottom by a few pixels (they should all be on zero). Hit okay and run a preview. If the dimensions are still greater than 640*272 then go back to autocropping and increase it a little more. Run the preview again.
Of course this unfortunately assumes the preview function is working. You will lose some of the picture. Any reason why the height always has to be the same?
If you can't get the preview function to work then you can try using another program to work out the cropping required. My favourite for doing so is HDConvertToX because it's one of the few programs which still calculates the aspect ratio distortion as you crop, so you can keep the aspect ratio as close to the original as possible by adjusting the cropping accordingly.
If you were to open the video with HDConverttoX and set the width to 640, you can then adjust the top and bottom cropping while watching HDConvertToX adjust the height until it's what you want. You can then use those cropping values in AutoGK by adding them to AutoGK's forced cropping option. Or you can just use HDConvertToX to convert the video. If you add the cropping values to AutoGK manually you'll need to disable AutoGK's auto cropping by changing the auto cropping threshold to zero.
So you know..... when auto cropping is enabled AutoGK will auto crop, then it will crop the extra according to the amount of forced cropping you add. So cropping will be autocrop + forced cropping = total cropping.
By disabling auto cropping (changing the threshold to zero) the amount cropped will be the amount of forced cropping only. Hopefully that makes sense.
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