Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
Hey, I've got a mystery bug. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I can't figure it out:


I'm aware of this mystery - now you know why we have a timeout for DGIndex operations :) I have now idea why this is happening though. I find it not to be reproducable in general: if you have a problem like this then running it several times in a row from one run of AutoGK usually doesn't help, but if you close and reopen AutoGK(or in fact other running apllication like explorer) then DGindex is able to work correctly again. This might be an issue with file/directory locking on windows level (i.e. for instance if you browsed the input/temp/output dir with windows explorer then it might have lock on it and DGIndex may have some issues opening files - if you look carefully the you'll see that in fact DGindex doesn't have any files open probably...)

[Carraway]

Originally posted by len0x
This might be an issue with file/directory locking on windows level

This is what it turned out to be. For whatever reason the folder where the ATI program saved its MPEG-2 streams had almost all the permissions removed. I don't know why it worked when I launched DGIndex versus when AutoGK launched it, but the problem is solved, so I don't care :)

Thanks len0x!

[len0x]

I changed a couple of applications: my compile of DGIndex and lame_enc.dll 3.96.1, so testing on those is required. This is the last week of testing before 1.85 stable is released (at some point next week).

[ma2trigk]

Is the new Surround (5.1) ability of MP3 planned to be icorporate in AutoGK ?
Thanks to the peop's from Down South for the last answer ;-)

[len0x]

I don't think so, I'd rather support 5ch AAC and MP4.

[JoeBG]

Originally posted by len0x
I don't think so, I'd rather support 5ch AAC and MP4.

Yes do it please. In the moment I produce AVI´s with Gordian Knot, AAC with BeSweet, Chapters with Nero Muxer, Subpictures (SRT) with SubRip and mux everything with mp4box. Would be nice to have more of this in Gordian Knot :)

[len0x]

I do have legal concerns though (about MP4 and AAC) - it seems that all the free tools have so many disclamers about its usage that I'm not sure that I would want to be under attack of commercial companies that seem to dominate MP4/AAC area.

[buzzqw]

even tried this (and is good) build http://psplab.csie.nctu.edu.tw/projects/index.pl/nctu-aac.html ?

I haven't found any discalimer about license. It is copyrighted but isn't specified anything about distribuiting

BHH

[mightyspawn]

Well i think have some problems with ripping subtitles.

I rip the DVD in ifo mode with the options that are in the manual.

Then i start rip the movie to xvid in AutoGK. I select all subtitles. When he he starts with ripping the subtitles, the sub file just stays 0kb. There is no error in the log file.

But i dont have this problem every time. And sometimes the subtitle files are ripped but corrupted. Because media player classic just quits after opening the file. And i tried opening the subtitle file with some directvobsub program, but then i also get an corrupt file error.

So i think something is going wrong during ripping, but what. Im jusing 1.80 beta.

Have this error with Band of Brothers DISC 1 episode 2, no problem with episode 1. With Blue Velvet. And many other dvd's. But also often it just works fine.

[mightyspawn]

With which program can i rip the subtitles into sub and idx files my own, and no not subrip.

update* Well i see for ripping subtitles you use rundll32 in combination with some dll file. Which one, and whic commando's can i use. Or is there a readme file somewhere.

[len0x]

Its VobSub and its dll (vobsub.dll). You can search subtitle forum for the syntax of parameter file supplied to it.

[Sharktooth]

Len0x, i just need a confirmation EQM V2 will be the sharp matrix in AutoGK so i can rename it to something like EQM_AutoGK_sharp.xcm

[len0x]

It will be for the time being. (Good marketing trick, btw :) )

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by len0x
(Good marketing trick, btw :) )
Naaa, it's not marketing, since i've got some spare time i decided to clean up things a bit.
I've also added the updates to my signature so the interested ppl will be sure to have the latest matrices version.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
I might be reading you wrong, but I thought that what actually bothers you is AutoGK's second pass setting that were to blame and not quality of 1.02 vs 1.1 (and that I do not understand).

So as far as I can see its no longer about AutoGK, but just XviD and indeed folks over at XviD forum should be able to answer your question there.

P.S. DRF doesn't tell you that much - do you see real difference in quality?

Sorry if I am late, but I had a hard time figuring how to answer.

AutoGk's second pass bothered me until I found a way to redo the second pass (in that same thread or a similar one) and experiment by myself. Conclusion: with my actual and very limited knowledge, I agree with you, AGK is not in cause and there does not seem to be any degradation caused by that behavior (0-1-0 instead of 10-1-20)

About the DRF I am no good at pictures looking and when I take snapshots I have no feedback so I will stay with the DRF which gives a frame quality ratio +and+ a viewing of the bitrate which was, is, still my concern.

Concerning the xvid forum, I will not query as I have seen that there seems to be no consequence of the intra-frame tuning on the global quality; actually I believe it is more the codec's behaviour in early stage that gave this difference compared to the 1.02; the new cvs are closing the gap: With the same input file, same settings for Koepi & Celtic builds, Xvid 1.02 had a DRF of 4.46, the 1.1 Koepi was 4.54, the last out Celtic_Druid is 4.49 (and faster), also has the DXN HT_PAL profile but no VBV checkbox.


Did

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
You didn't grasp what is it all about :)

and
Again, what is wrong with that? (we seem to be runing in circles here)

Me = Langage problem? dumb? or both? :(

I will not say "please excuse my crappy english" because it is what Jawor has in his signature but the result seems similar: please take into account my understanding difficulties.

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
AutoGk's second pass bothered me until I found a way to redo the second pass (in that same thread or a similar one) and experiment by myself. Conclusion: with my actual and very limited knowledge, I agree with you, AGK is not in cause and there does not seem to be any degradation caused by that behavior (0-1-0 instead of 10-1-20)


Well, I'm glad we're on the same page now. :)

[QNX]

strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?

[richarddd]

Originally posted by QNX
strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?

You might try the stable version of xvid and see if you have the same problem.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by QNX
strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?
What you mean with last? 1.03 or head?

[QNX]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
What you mean with last? 1.03 or head?
i mean http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ head :P

[shevegen]

I get an error: "avisynth open failure
script error: There is no function called WriteFile"

I must admit, Win XP on my laptop is quite a mess. Cant say where the error lies, but maybe someone more knowledgable can point me to the proper direction.

[len0x]

you don't have avisynth 2.5.5 installed

[QNX]

i still have sound mistiming ... tried last stable koepi's build :confused:

vob files are fine..

[Sharktooth]

Len0x VBV buffer is now controlled by xvid profiles (there are DXN profiles too) so maybe something has changed in the VBV settings in the registry...

[len0x]

I decided that I'm not gonna follow head development of XviD - only when 1.1 gets stable I'll add support for it.

[Sharktooth]

Wise choice... :)
BTW, there's an update in Xvid 1.0.x branch.
1.0.3 is out and there are celtic druid and koepi builds available.

Changelog (from koepi website):
- {xvidcore} Fixed trellis optimization overflow for quant <= 2.
- {xvidcore} Don't read too short streams. This prevents from reading useless stream garbage.
- {xvidcore} Fixed 64 bit crashes because of addressing assuming 32bit integers. (Andre Werthman)
- {xvidcore} Fixed 2 diamond search bugs (one was causing searches in wrong directions, the other one was causing an early exit)
- {VfW} Better stride calculation
- {DShow} Better stride calculation

[len0x]

Probably last version this year :)

[Sharktooth]

Does it include xvid 1.03 from koepi or celtic druid?

[len0x]

Always Koepi's :cool:

[BigDid]

Originally posted by BigDid
... With the same input file, same settings for Koepi & Celtic builds, Xvid 1.02 had a DRF of 4.46, the 1.1 Koepi was 4.54, the last out Celtic_Druid is 4.49 (and faster), also has the DXN HT_PAL profile but no VBV checkbox.

Same test file encoded with AGK 1.84 & Koepi Xvid 1.03 has a DRF of 4.43 (lower is better).
Viva Koepi ( a new 1.1 release with VBV checkbox please :D )

Did

[Sharktooth]

VBV is automatically enabled with profiles. No need for the checkbox.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
VBV is automatically enabled with profiles. No need for the checkbox.
You are right, thanks :)
/Edited: but would'nt a Koepi build be faster than Celtic's for AMD owners? (like for the 1.03)/

Did
/ ... while my guitar gently weeps .../

[Sharktooth]

Dunno... both use the same compilers... so, i wouldnt bet on one or another.

[evil ryu]

Why BeSweet and VirtualDubMod try to accees internet?
After an encode I found my firewall allerted me that this 2 programs, parts of autogk frontend, were trying to acces th net.
It's the first time it happens, I recently installed version 1.84b.


By the way, very good program Lenox.



Merry Christmas and happy new year to all members of this forum. :)

[len0x]

BeSweet doesn't really have an ability to connect to the internet. VDubMod can do that if a codec used (I'm only aware of DivX) is trying to check for updates over the internet. Ordinarily only AutoGK itself connects to the internet on startup if you selected "check for updates" option during installation (but not during encoding).

[Mouse]

len0x,

One question, if one choosed to autoupdate, and then after a while don't want this "pop-up" window asking for auto-update. How do i get rid of this? (bet it is in registry somehere, and i have looked, but not found it).

And one more thing. Make it easier for people to contribute with money (i will) by adding easy payment, like regsoft.com or something.
I find paypal most annoying and will rather send money in "snail-mail".

Merry Christmas to you, and keep up the fine job!

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Mouse
len0x,

One question, if one choosed to autoupdate, and then after a while don't want this "pop-up" window asking for auto-update. How do i get rid of this? (bet it is in registry somehere, and i have looked, but not found it)...

@ Mouse,

You can trash or move the .versioncheck file located in the AGK folder.

And a merry christmas to all :)

Did

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Is that possible to have 16:9 movie in 4:3 (with black border) with
permanent subtitle in the bottom, so the main movie is not contaminated with the subtitle which somehow looks ugly :(

Thank you.

[len0x]

I don't know - its a bad idea to keep black bars, but useful for subs though. I'll keep that in mind if I decide to work in that area (i.e. pan&scan etc...)

[Mouse]

Originally posted by len0x
I don't know - its a bad idea to keep black bars, but useful for subs though. I'll keep that in mind if I decide to wor in that area (i.e. pan&scan etc...)

Please deside, so i can pass Dr.DivX in trashcan :)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Thank you for your reply.
I'm waiting that feature in the future :)

[wirawan84]

*there are options in hidden options to disable autocrop and make subs down below, i take this from the tutorial
"-In this case "Tune auto crop parameters" is very handy. Threshold defines how sensitive auto crop will be: the higher the value the more cropping will be done. To completely disable audio crop you can set threshold to 0
-"Adjust Subs" option is very useful option and should be turned on most of the time if you're burning subtitles into resulting AVI. It places subs as low as possible in video frame and makes sure that font is not squashed vertically (I'm sure everyone is familiar with these problems)"

[techz]

Small question: Why does the new 1.84beta contain adware? Its mentioned in the new Doom9 AutoGK Guide.

And can AutoGK and GKNOT work on the same installation of XP without any conflicts?

thanks in advance

[len0x]

Originally posted by techz
Small question: Why does the new 1.84beta contain adware? Its mentioned in the new Doom9 AutoGK Guide.


Its being discussed here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056

Originally posted by techz
And can AutoGK and GKNOT work on the same installation of XP without any conflicts?


yes

[techz]

thanks len0x, as always a big help.

[Mouse]

Does anyone know what the minimum file must be, in order to get correct audio? What i mean is, when you make test-captures (MPEG2-DVD) that are smaller than ~5min-10min, and strip 1min sample from this, the audio gets screwed + the files gets undersized (i use 7mb for 1min samples).

It by default grabs the audio from the start -> +1min, no mather where you strip the sample from the 10min range (by maximize DGIndex and choose by index).

(using 1.84beta)

[len0x]

DGIndex is not really a good capture editing tool, so i suggest prepare all you samples with ProjectX before feeding into AutoGK.

P.S. Undersize is very frequent for small files (check logs to see if its expected).

[PlazzTT]

Another suggestion: Would it be a good idea to switch on the "Forced Subs" checkbox by default?

I don't know what it does exactly, but if it is switched off, does that mean that the AutoGK rip of, say "Kill Bill", would be without all of necessary subtitles for the Japanese parts?

The same goes for The Godfather Part 1. A recent rip I did of it was without the Italian translations, because they were forced subs on the DVD, which wasn't included in the XviD rip I made.

[richarddd]

You have to select a subtitle stream and select forced subs to get the forced sub stream. Just turning on forced subs without selecting a subtitle stream doesn't do anything.