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len0x
12th November 2003, 11:40
@Richie_Rich

Good findings! Was ffdshow installed on both PCs ? I suspect that it might cause problems in some cases (well it's probably alpha release you have there). So if you could try uninstalling it from problematic system and just use native filter from DivX and report back here - that'd be useful to know.

@guspasho

It is _important_ that you use DVDDecrypter which either leaves IFO file or generates stream text info file. Without those files GKIF4U cannot function properly.

@chain999

Do you still have interlace.log file for those 100Mb files ? I'd like to have a look at them. Can you send it to me please (via email which is provided in GKIF4U)? I still think that if it's reported as FILM then it should be FILM as it has that distinct pattern of 2 out of five interlaced frames. Or may be source is too short and it's just a coincidence that there are not more that 2 interlaced frames in a row.
Or and btw, are you using stream info file which correctly describes source, i.e. PAL or NTSC (I remember you were faking it).

len0x
12th November 2003, 11:48
Ninja Scroll - PAL 25fps 4:3
In this movie the second line of the subtitles is missing :confused: This does not happen if i use gordian knot.


Oh, that's new :) I'm not really an expert in subtitles, so does anyone have an idea why this might happen ?



Treasure planet - PAL 24fps 16:9
In this movie the video and audio was badly out of sync :confused: The setting was CBR 128. And yes it works fine if i do it with g-knot.


Was the movie split into parts ? If yes, then was the whole movie ok before split? Does this happen when you use VBR MP3 or AC3 sound on the same source? More tests of this one would be really helpful.



Enemy of the state - PAL 25fps 16:9
The program would not accept the input files :confused: This was the error: list index out of bounds (2)


Can you post the contents of "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt" here please?

len0x
12th November 2003, 11:54
Originally posted by MediaMage

did a 2 cd encode of charlies angels 2
out came 2 perfectly 700 mb files
BUT also a third cd sized 3 mb ;)


Can you tell me what's the final size of the whole avi before the split? May be it was oversized a bit...

len0x
12th November 2003, 12:06
Originally posted by corum1234
Unsplit file has 202401 frames
CD1 has 102659 frames (log shows VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(0,102659);
CD2 has 99417 frames (log shows VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(102659,99417);
CD1+CD2 = 202076, therefore a loss of 325 frames


hm... what's the exact size (in bytes) of the first, second CD and the original file ?

Here is my guess: as we split on a key frame and first 700Mb had keyframe somewhat considerably below 700Mb (that's why I'm asking about it's size) then that last part was supposed to be split as in case with MediaMage, but didn't because I'm not checking what was the size of the part and just assume that it's 700Mb...

Im curious if you could run the splitting script from log file with changed this line:
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(102659,99417);
but instead of 99417 have 99742 (with additional 325 frames) and see if it's being split properly...

len0x
12th November 2003, 12:07
Originally posted by zerocoolnl
@len0x

I'm missing one option(that's not much, isn't it;) )
'Shut down windows when done'

I know that 2k/XP has shutdown.exe
and in Win98 is it: c:/windows/rundll32.exe user,exitwindows


let's see what I can do :)

MediaMage
12th November 2003, 18:39
@lenOx:

final size was: 1.471.152.128 Bytes (therefore 3 MB to big for 2x700 mb)
calculated was(if i add these 3:

[11.11.2002 22:33:01] Analyzing source.
[11.11.2002 22:40:15] Source has percetange of interlacing: 0,21
[11.11.2002 22:40:15] Source is considered to be progressive.
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Found 154075 frames
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Audio size: 295824864
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Overhead: 1829632
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Video Size: 1170351904
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Running compressability test.
[11.11.2002 22:40:16] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\charlies_comptest.avs)

1.468.006.400
that were exactly the 3 mb that the "third cd" used.

maybe calculated the overhead wrong?
uses AC3 Soundtrack

Final Cuttings:

VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(0,75874);
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(75874,77582);
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(153456,618);

618 frames in cd3

can post of course the whole log

len0x
12th November 2003, 18:55
@MediaMage

Do you still have just video file ("charlies_movie.avi" without audio)? If yes, what's the exact size of it? (I'm trying to see if xvid produces oversized file or overhead calculations were wrong...)

PeebZ
12th November 2003, 18:57
Hi,
I tried 2Fast2Furious with gkitfasy4u V0.32 (NTSC - 720x480 - 4:3 Normal - 29.997fps).
Aiming for 700Mb I recieved a final size being 772Mb once completed & muxed
here is the log (http://peebz.orcon.net.nz/gkitfast4u/2Fast2Furious_gk.txt) if you are interested.
Resolution and audio settings were both left as automatic.

edit..
the final size of the movie without audio is 674Mb
edit..

PeebZ

len0x
12th November 2003, 19:13
@PeebZ

OK, I know what's going on. I'm gonna release 0.33 which should fix problem of oversizing for everyone.

*EDIT* 0.33 is up. Can everyone having oversize problems try it and report here please.

XenoDaSouljah
12th November 2003, 19:42
@len0x

Was the movie split into parts ? If yes, then was the whole movie ok before split? Does this happen when you use VBR MP3 or AC3 sound on the same source? More tests of this one would be really helpful.

No it was a single 700mb xvid rip. Size was exactly 700mb. No splitting. Tonight i will run one with ac3 or vbr mp3 (or both).

Can you post the contents of "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt" here please?

0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 16774 / PTS: 00:00:45.880 / Delay: 45600ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Svenska / LBA: 16825 / PTS: 00:00:46.040 / Delay: 45760ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Norsk / LBA: 16831 / PTS: 00:00:46.080 / Delay: 45800ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Dansk / LBA: 18101 / PTS: 00:00:49.040 / Delay: 48760ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Suomi / LBA: 13745 / PTS: 00:00:38.560 / Delay: 38280ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Nederlands / LBA: 13632 / PTS: 00:00:38.280 / Delay: 38000ms
0x26 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 16424 / PTS: 00:00:44.680 / Delay: 44400ms
0x27 - Subtitle / LBA: 16775 / PTS: 00:00:45.880 / Delay: 45600ms
0x28 - Subtitle / LBA: 16827 / PTS: 00:00:46.040 / Delay: 45760ms
0x29 - Subtitle / LBA: 16832 / PTS: 00:00:46.080 / Delay: 45800ms
0x2A - Subtitle / LBA: 18158 / PTS: 00:00:49.040 / Delay: 48760ms
0x2B - Subtitle / LBA: 13749 / PTS: 00:00:38.560 / Delay: 38280ms
0x2C - Subtitle / LBA: 13636 / PTS: 00:00:38.280 / Delay: 38000ms
0x2D - Subtitle / LBA: 16425 / PTS: 00:00:44.680 / Delay: 44400ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 28 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

Hopefully this helps. :)

len0x
12th November 2003, 19:47
Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
Hopefully this helps. :)

Yes, I'm able to reproduce it here. Will have a look. Thanks.

*EDIT* What I've spotted immediately though - there is no language description for the last 7 subtitles... How come I wonder... Do they have those subs on DVD ?

XenoDaSouljah
12th November 2003, 19:53
no, they dont appear on the dvd menu . There is no way to select them

len0x
12th November 2003, 19:57
Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
no, they dont appear on the dvd menu . There is no way to select them

Hm... which version of DVDDecrypter did you use?
If it's the latest one, then I suggest you report this bug in Decrypting forum. But I will do a workaround anyway :)

XenoDaSouljah
12th November 2003, 20:03
I use Dvd Decrypter version 3.1.7.0

Ok will do :)

MediaMage
12th November 2003, 20:56
@lenOx:

oversizing came from xvid:

movie size without audio was:

1.173.477.376
--> 3mb to big!

can´t retry that one, you have to rely oh the other ppl here that got the same prob!

((( atom )))
12th November 2003, 23:16
@len0x

i must admin i didn't follow the enitre thread, since i have extremely little time at the moment due to a tough project i am involved in.

that is also the very reason why your app just came right in time. all i can do atm is click and leave ;)

still i have a wish and a question and so i'll just post them and hope not to have already missed the answers...

i would have a very very big wish: a second audio track.
supposingly this has been discussed here before, but - really sorry - i wouldn't find the time for the reading.

one other question i am having is: how comes, you don't use convolution3d?

XenoDaSouljah
13th November 2003, 02:53
@len0x

Was the movie split into parts ? If yes, then was the whole movie ok before split? Does this happen when you use VBR MP3 or AC3 sound on the same source? More tests of this one would be really helpful.

Ok i encodec the movie again (treasure planet). This time i choosed for 2cd's and ac3 audio. Results: Badly out of sync.
Before splitting it is out of sync and after.

Here is the log:

[11/11/2003 8:15:20 PM] Started encoding.
[11/11/2003 8:15:20 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/11/2003 8:17:15 PM] Indexing subtitles.
[11/11/2003 8:18:55 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/11/2003 8:21:45 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing: 0.47
[11/11/2003 8:21:45 PM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[11/11/2003 8:21:46 PM] Found 137537 frames
[11/11/2003 8:21:46 PM] Audio size: 307991040
[11/11/2003 8:21:46 PM] Overhead: 1633280
[11/11/2003 8:21:46 PM] Video Size: 1158382080
[11/11/2003 8:21:46 PM] Running compressebility test.
[11/11/2003 8:32:03 PM] Compressebility percentage is: 66.40
[11/11/2003 8:32:03 PM] New width is : 672
[11/11/2003 8:32:03 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 71.84
[11/11/2003 8:32:03 PM] Running first pass.
[11/11/2003 11:28:20 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 78.61
[11/11/2003 11:28:20 PM] Running second pass.
[11/12/2003 2:26:50 AM] Muxing Audio.
[11/12/2003 2:28:55 AM] Splitting video into: F:\trease planet\tp.CD1.avi
[11/12/2003 2:29:57 AM] Splitting video into: F:\trease planet\tp.CD2.avi
[11/12/2003 2:30:55 AM] Finished encoding.


and the dvd decrypter file:

0x20 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions / LBA: 16982 / PTS: 00:00:28.407 / Delay: 28120ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Français / Normal Captions / LBA: 14189 / PTS: 00:00:21.287 / Delay: 21000ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Nederlands / Normal Captions / LBA: 17188 / PTS: 00:00:28.967 / Delay: 28680ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Français / Forced / LBA: 5 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Nederlands / Forced / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Français / Normal Director's Comments / LBA: 6341 / PTS: 00:00:02.727 / Delay: 2440ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Nederlands / Normal Director's Comments / LBA: 6344 / PTS: 00:00:02.727 / Delay: 2440ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 5323 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Français / LBA: 5324 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Nederlands / LBA: 5325 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Nederlands / LBA: 5326 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English - Director's Comments / LBA: 5327 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 4799 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms


Hopefully this helps and you can solve the problem. Besides all this, it is a really great program :)

Oh yeah i have done this with 0.33 alpha.And the splitting worked fine for me, and the movie wasnt oversized.

PeebZ
13th November 2003, 09:06
@ len0x,

oversizing issue that I experienced has indeed been resolved with 0.33 relese. Nice !!

PeebZ

len0x
13th November 2003, 11:54
I've started this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64971
everybody's welcome to join me there :)

len0x
13th November 2003, 12:04
Originally posted by ((( atom )))

i would have a very very big wish: a second audio track.
supposingly this has been discussed here before, but - really sorry - i wouldn't find the time for the reading.


this was on my todo list. and it'll be done eventually. But before I have several milestones: first stable release, divx5 support, job queue support.

Originally posted by ((( atom )))

one other question i am having is: how comes, you don't use convolution3d?

Lets don't start discussion about filters here. Everyone has his own preferences about it. What yoy missed though - a couple of time in this thread I mentioned that I'm gonna do a config file which you can edit manually and which contains section for avs script like: deinterlace, ivtc, noise filters, resize. So everyone who uses the same settings all te time can put whatever he wants. This will have limited support from me though :)

len0x
13th November 2003, 12:07
@XenoDaSouljah

That doesn't sound too good. it's a persistent problem not related to muxing. What is the delay of audio (last digits in the audio file name)? I see in the stream description it's 0ms. Is that right for the audio file?

Tuning
13th November 2003, 13:21
@len0x
Is it worthy on trying DVDdecrypter's commandline capabiblity to this tool?.Then the users only need to select the drive and every thing will be automated,but there will be a need to the other option on looking to already decrypted files.

len0x
13th November 2003, 13:27
Originally posted by Tuning
@len0x
Is it worthy on trying DVDdecrypter's commandline capabiblity to this tool?.Then the users only need to select the drive and every thing will be automated,but there will be a need to the other option on looking to already decrypted files.

you obviously missed the part when I explained why I don't want to use tools which have DeCSS bits in them :)

Tuning
13th November 2003, 13:30
Then OK ,I forgot that,i have read it once.Sorry.

XenoDaSouljah
13th November 2003, 13:46
Originally posted by len0x
@XenoDaSouljah

That doesn't sound too good. it's a persistent problem not related to muxing. What is the delay of audio (last digits in the audio file name)? I see in the stream description it's 0ms. Is that right for the audio file?

Well the program says that it is 0ms. But i think that is not correct. Please let me know if i can help you out more.

len0x
13th November 2003, 14:24
Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
Well the program says that it is 0ms.

Meaning, the demuxed file ends with 0ms.ac3 ?

XenoDaSouljah
13th November 2003, 14:54
Yes that is exactly what i mean :)

len0x
13th November 2003, 15:02
Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
Yes that is exactly what i mean :)

I never had such a problem before, to be honest. So I don't know where to start diggin'... May be there is a problem with vob files themselves...

zerocoolnl
13th November 2003, 15:54
Originally posted by len0x
Oh, that's new :) I'm not really an expert in subtitles, so does anyone have an idea why this might happen ?


Len0x: (about the missing second subtitle line)
Is it maybe that it doesn't support the " | " symbol?? That symbol is used in srt subtitles to seperate the first form the second line. I'm not shure how your ripping the subtitles so I'm just trying.
Otherwise I should say that the height of the subs is to low (heigh enough for one line text)
I hope it's helpfull again.

Zerocoolnl

G2k
13th November 2003, 17:05
Hey len0x,
GREAT SOFTWARE!
I already sent you an e-mail concerning this issue before, and now I can finally post in the forums (yey! after 5 days)

Ok, here's the problem: I made an encode of a DVD, namely Princess Mononoke (not that it makes a difference.) I tried ripping and reencoding several times (twice I ripped with SmartRipper and once with DVD Decrypter). The final encode result is the same. There is a subtitle lag by about 1.5 minutes. You told me to give you the log file, but GKif4u makes so many different files that I just don't know which one is the right one to give you. If you tell me, I'll show you what it says.
The file called "VTS_03 - Stream Information.txt" might be the one you need for the subtitle problem. Here is what it says:

0x20 - Subtitle - English / Normal Closed Captions / LBA: 17477 / PTS: 00:00:16.094 / Delay: 15899ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions / LBA: 6504 / PTS: 00:00:01.379 / Delay: 1184ms
0x22 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions / LBA: 17481 / PTS: 00:00:16.094 / Delay: 15899ms
0x23 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions / LBA: 6506 / PTS: 00:00:01.379 / Delay: 1184ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 94 / PTS: 00:00:00.215 / Delay: 20ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Français / LBA: 96 / PTS: 00:00:00.215 / Delay: 20ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Japanese / LBA: 97 / PTS: 00:00:00.215 / Delay: 20ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.194 / Delay: 0ms

I hope you can spot the problem, because it's a great piece of software and it would be awesome if it could also be fully funtional!
Thanks for your time.
G2k

len0x
13th November 2003, 17:24
@G2k

Which subtitle stream did you use? First one? If yes, can you try any other?
I'm not really that experienced with subtitles (in fact I've encoded 10 movies max with them). I wonder if it's closed captions problem...

G2k
13th November 2003, 17:29
well, on the subtitle track menu on GKif4u, I selected the second English one, because the other one is for people who cannot hear so it writes things like [pow, smash] and it's sort of annoying :p
I wouldn't know which one that is from the file I gave you.

len0x
13th November 2003, 17:32
@G2k

Can you select, say second stream, and do the preview ?
Is it in sync or not ?

*Edit* using the preview you should be able to see the difference between several subtitle tracks (at least see if the start at the same time or not)

Jagergeek
14th November 2003, 05:24
First, I'll admit I'm a newbie - but have searched and read a lot prior to posting this.
I've tried to turn two of my DVDs into Dixv via gkItFast4U. Both worked perfectly except for one problem. Moving portions of the video (a person walking etc.) flutter wildly on a regular basis.

Neither of these DVDs featured multiangle (Jimmy Newtron & Raising Arizona).

And another question (clue?) is that under advanced options, the codec choices are greyed out (xvid is selected, Divx 5 is not...both greyed out).

I'm unclear which log I should post, but I'll post part of the gk log:

Please help - Thanks!

<<<<Log deleted to clean up forum - jagergeek>>>>

toliman
14th November 2003, 07:44
Originally posted by Jagergeek
Moving portions of the video (a person walking etc.) flutter wildly on a regular basis.

it's either the XviD decoder, or the result of incorrect IVTC that GKiF4U has mangled. more likely #2

e.g.

[11/12/2003 12:56:43 AM] Analyzing source.
[11/12/2003 1:00:21 AM] Source has percetange of interlacing: 22.95
[11/12/2003 1:00:21 AM] Source is considered to be FILM.


it's not entirely the fault of the program, some content has 29.97 fps footage that requires more exacting methods to deinterlace.

IVTC tried to convert the 29.97fps footage to 24 fps to reduce/remove the interlacing, you'll see problems in wide-panning or horizontally scrolling movement if the source isn't meant to be IVTC'd, or it has a hybrid of different footage throughout the whole movie.

in regular GordianKnot, there is a filter that attempts to fix these hybrid interlaced films, you might have to resort to using the advanced GordianKnot program until GKiF4U uses decomb, additional to/instead of IVTC.

i'm sure there's a better explanation out there, of the how and why IVTC is a shortcut for interlacing.

rmagere
14th November 2003, 10:44
Hi,
Not sure how many people would want the following feature but it would be a great help when encoding dvd's extra-features:

what I would like is an option that given a fixed resolution and a given compressability % let's the encode take whatever size it's predicted.
I find that useful as I am not too interested in the quality of a lot of extras but I just want them as small as possible (within reason) so usually I encode them at 416*xxx, 448*xxx, 480*xxx or 512*xxx do a compressability check at the desired resolution and change the size until the box shows ~50% (obviously I am using a 128mp3).


Also it would be nice if there was a queing facility (kind of like roborip)

manono
14th November 2003, 10:54
Hi Jagergeek, and welcome to the forum-

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "flutter wildly". Do you mean that it plays jerky, or stutters during these scenes? Like there are frames missing? Or do you mean that the video itself is corrupted somehow? Is it something that can be captured with a single frame picture, or it's only the movement itself that's off? Please explain a bit more if you can.

About the greyed out codec screen-GKFast supports only XviD encoding at the moment. After DivX 5.x is integrated into it, then you'll be able to choose one of the 2 codecs.

toliman-

...or the result of incorrect IVTC that GKiF4U has mangled.

Possibly, I guess, but I don't think so. I haven't ripped either movie, but have seen Raising Arizona a few times (great film), and have no reason to believe there's any hybrid content in there. It's just a regular movie. When GKFast tries to determine whether the movie is pure 29.97fps video or is Film (and can be IVTC'd down to 23.976fps), it looks at 5% of the frames (like when you do a compression test) from a 29.97fps .d2v (no Force Film). If you open a 29.97fps .d2v of a telecined movie in GKnot and advance frame by frame during a movement scene, you'll see that out of every 5 frames, 3 are progressive (not interlaced) and 2 are interlaced. So if the whole film is movement, then 40% of the frames will be detected as interlaced. But because there are a lot of more or less static scenes, and static text screens, and black frames, those frames aren't detected as interlaced, and the interlacing percentage always comes out as less than 40%. And in those cases, IVTC is applied. And the IVTC used is Decomb's Telecide-Decimate combination. It's certainly possible that they were telecined strangely, and the Decomb settings need tweaking, in which case you're right. He might be better off doing the movies in GKnot, reading the Decomb help file to learn how to adjust the settings. But I can't help thinking there's more going on here than just the IVTC screwing up.

I don't see any sign in the scripts of IVTC having been applied (Decomb doesn't seem to have been loaded), but I'm not too good at reading those things. Was it Force Filmed when perhaps it shouldn't have been? That could account for it. But wait until len0x gets back and he may be able to diagnose the problem. Hold onto your files, Jagergeek.

len0x
14th November 2003, 12:14
Originally posted by manono
I don't see any sign in the scripts of IVTC having been applied (Decomb doesn't seem to have been loaded), but I'm not too good at reading those things. Was it Force Filmed when perhaps it shouldn't have been? That could account for it. But wait until len0x gets back and he may be able to diagnose the problem. Hold onto your files, Jagergeek.

Well spotted. Indeed I bet the percentage of film was more than 99%.
I wonder if I should always IVTC and don't do FF at all. Or doing FF doesn't harm the source and always the same as IVTC on pure FILM material?

@Jagergeek

what's the last line you can see in the d2v file from "tmp" dir?

wertert
14th November 2003, 13:14
idea : quick preview.

Do you think that indexing ( via dvd2avi ) the whole movie for the preview is a bit overkill ?

How about this. Run the program as normal. select preview. you see the dvd2avi task appear on the taskbar. Right click, restore. Hit esc. This stops the indexing.

Hit F5 to check the movie. Hit esc again. Move the slider to the middle of the film and hit '['. Move the slider slightly to the right and hit ']'. This defines a short segment that will be used as the preview. Hit F4 ( save as ) and over write the file called <film_name>_PREVIEW.d2v. Things continue as normal and the preview appears. The smaller the selected segment the faster the preview appears. ;-)

How about an option in preview to only work on ONE .vob file, instead of all of them. After-all you re-index from scratch when encoding the full movie so the _PREVIEW.d2v file is dumped anyway.

wertert

Jagergeek
14th November 2003, 15:17
Thanks for the excellent info and quick replies.

LenOx, the last line of the d2v file is:
FINISHED 99.99% FILM

manono,
When I say "fluttered wildly" I mean that an object in a scene that is moving seems to flutter between the previous frame(s) and the current position. Objects not moving aren't affected.
So, IVTC problems would definately be suspect.
Anyone who's old like me should remember the Max Headroom character - and how he and his image stuttered back and forth...it's kinda like that.

Thanks again!

((( atom )))
14th November 2003, 17:27
@len0x: atom and his wishes again..

since i am so short of time, i have a pile of 6 or 7 ripped dvds on my drive wich were - in lack of knowledge of your app - demuxed while rippinng and i couldnn't find the time to sit down and gknnot them for weeks.
your program now sadly refuses to encode them, telling me (the truth), that there is no audio to be found within these vobs.
i'd be so glad if i could encode them using your program, though.. do you have any idea for a quick workarounnd maybe?

len0x
14th November 2003, 17:32
Originally posted by ((( atom )))
...demuxed while rippinng and i couldnn't find the time to sit down and gknnot them for weeks.
your program now sadly refuses to encode them, telling me (the truth), that there is no audio to be found within these vobs.
i'd be so glad if i could encode them using your program, though.. do you have any idea for a quick workarounnd maybe?

if you just have M2V and AC3 file, then, no... Even if it was a way then audio would be slightly out of synch and audio has to be demuxed within the program...

HellSpawn
14th November 2003, 17:35
I used your program to encode a dvd with blackadder episodes.The program recognised that the movie was interlaced and the quality produced is relatively good(considering the source:) ).
However I only later realised that it had ripped the subtitles for just the first episode.The main movie stream contains 3 episodes with end credits between them.Didn't it have to rip the subtitles from all the vobs?Is that a bug or something?

len0x
14th November 2003, 18:03
Originally posted by HellSpawn
However I only later realised that it had ripped the subtitles for just the first episode.The main movie stream contains 3 episodes with end credits between them.Didn't it have to rip the subtitles from all the vobs?Is that a bug or something?

Did you rip all three episodes in one go? (one job)
Coz you're supposed to rip & encode each ep separately. When I rip subtitles I only can rip one program chain at a time...

GizmoDerMokwai
14th November 2003, 18:05
hey, len0x, i just had another idea of a new feature: the typical shutdown after finish feature ;D

len0x
14th November 2003, 18:08
you're not the first one who had that idea :)

zerocoolnl
14th November 2003, 19:44
lol, it's clear now that it is a good option..:D

HellSpawn
14th November 2003, 20:45
I ripped the chain in one go.The vobs contain 3 episodes but each episode does not occupie a vob.The first episode for instance is a vob and a half.Did I do something wrong?I never had this kind of error before.Even with subripper all the subtitles were extracted.

manono
14th November 2003, 20:49
Jagergeek-

Maybe you can do me a favor. Open the finished .avi movie in VDubMod and scroll to one of those scenes with movement that "flutters" (ignore that black screen writing about B-Frames at the beginning). Hold down the Shift key to make scrolling easier. Then start advancing frame by frame (right arrow key). As a person is moving, do you get this 2 steps forward and one step back kind of thing? And have a look at the frames themselves. Are they "clean", or do you see "ghosts" or "double images" or "echoes", or interlacing (thin black horizontal lines during movement)? Based on what you've said, I think the answer to the first question is "yes", and to the second question, "clean".

And is the final framerate of the movie 23.976fps? While the movie is open in VDubMod, check in File-File Information. It should be, I think, and it sounds as if Force Film was applied, but perhaps with the Field Order reversed (?).

Thanks for posting, and then following up. Please stick with us so we can help to figure it out.

len0x
14th November 2003, 23:00
Originally posted by HellSpawn
I ripped the chain in one go.The vobs contain 3 episodes but each episode does not occupie a vob.The first episode for instance is a vob and a half.Did I do something wrong?I never had this kind of error before.Even with subripper all the subtitles were extracted.

are you saying that you have one final avi which contains 3 episodes but only first one has subs ? Or you did three separate encodes and only first one has subs? Coz you're supposed to do the latter...
I'm a bit confused...