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jeremymacmull
26th January 2004, 19:42
OOOPS

this was meant to read "so i DONT want lenox to think im ungratefull."

Ok fair point ill use GKNOT for movies and AUTOGK for episodes then

the second audio support would be nice

The filters fair point i suppose it would be to complex for end users anyway. Plus the arguments thing

Still having probs tho with VDUBMOD a lot of people have reported maybe we could go back to 1.5.4.1 and just have the new avisynth 2.5.4 as 1.5.4.1 seem to do the job fine.

LAST feature request is it possible to have OGG as one of the options anytime in the future!! or do u have no intention of putting this in if no then fair enough its a good tool anyway

The next point is to do with GKNOT any updates since the .28.7.2 planned (especially ogg support?)

i understand u want to finish AUTOGK at least to stable 1.0 and then ull probably continue with GKNOT

JEREMY

((( atom )))
26th January 2004, 22:50
@len0x

2nd audio support is there! thanx. and again: thanx!
this will greatly easy ripping for quite some people.

since i couldn't figure out how to activate it in this thread, but heard of it elsewhere, here is a question regarding it:
is there a way to choose different settings for the different audio tracks, like ac3 for the original version and mp3 for the secondary?

stax76
26th January 2004, 23:13
problems we had in DVX with new VDM:

ogm/mkv subtitle language tags were broke because changed ISO list

range encode was broke because AddRange method with full range is added default, for a range encode it must be cleared first

AVI decoding and demuxing was broke because RemoveInputStreams() must be applied first

other than that I couldn't find differences to older builds, it appears to be stable

gircobain
27th January 2004, 00:22
Originally posted by len0x
I'd rather leave this completely to the end user as may ppl will want to use specific filters for that and there will lots of argueing about them. When config file is implemented you'll just put your favourite filter in and it'll be accounted already during comp test (it will be quite tricky to predict automatically how comp test value is changed if a filter is applied).

Couldn't we just have an "Edit" button as in regular GK, under Advanced Settings, so we could be able to add our favourite filters to the avisynth script directly?

rmagere
27th January 2004, 09:02
I think that if you start putting buttons people (and newby too) will want to fiddle with it or at the very least will often be left with the feeling that maybe they could have got a better encoding if only...

However if such changes are left into a configuration file then (as far as I have seen) people do not feel as "threatened" and they are quite happy to leave it alone - unless they know what they are doing.
To be fully honest I still use only GK for all my encodings as I find it's dead easy, I like using divx5.05, I like the choice of filters and I like choosing my credit point; still I keep testing AGK because it looks v.promising I can give it to my sister and friends for their encodings so that they don't make a mess and whenever I will have to encode episodes again I will also use AGK as I find episodes are really quite boring too do.

So point is I like Lenox view of AGK: make it simple (i.e. a tool for everybody) and make it better than great (i.e. a tool that even experienced user like to use) and if you are not happy with some filter choice you can always use GK.

Lenox thanks for your great work on developing (improving) GK and AGK.

idanm19
27th January 2004, 12:53
Originally posted by len0x
I think if I was doing an option for that then Id' rather do "All subs" option... Selection is just very difficult to put into GUI...

as you already put an (hidden) option for second audio stream, what's the difficult in putting another line in gui just under the first subtitle for second subtitle, and if you want a checkbox for all subtitles, which will gray out the choice for specific subtitles. I think many people who want 2nd sub, won't need/want all the subs, because many movies have a lot of subtitles in it(10+) which will take much wasted space (~1-1.5mb per sub).

*edit corrected*
@CeeJay.dk -there is no support for 2nd subtitle atm, just fot 2nd audio stream, in ver 0.89, by ctrl+f10.
what I meant to ask is the support for 2nd subtitle.

CeeJay.dk
27th January 2004, 13:36
Could someone please explain to me in more detail how the hidden features are activated ?

I try pressing CTRL + F10 in AutoGK but I cant see anything happening when I do so.

And I didn't even know about the support for a second subtitle .. how does that work ?

rantingotaku
27th January 2004, 19:56
Originally posted by rmagere
I think that if you start putting buttons people (and newby too) will want to fiddle with it or at the very least will often be left with the feeling that maybe they could have got a better encoding if only...

However if such changes are left into a configuration file then (as far as I have seen) people do not feel as "threatened" and they are quite happy to leave it alone - unless they know what they are doing.
To be fully honest I still use only GK for all my encodings as I find it's dead easy, I like using divx5.05, I like the choice of filters and I like choosing my credit point; still I keep testing AGK because it looks v.promising I can give it to my sister and friends for their encodings so that they don't make a mess and whenever I will have to encode episodes again I will also use AGK as I find episodes are really quite boring too do.

So point is I like Lenox view of AGK: make it simple (i.e. a tool for everybody) and make it better than great (i.e. a tool that even experienced user like to use) and if you are not happy with some filter choice you can always use GK.

Lenox thanks for your great work on developing (improving) GK and AGK.

I agree completely, autoGK was meant for simplicity, if more advanced options are wanted, use standard GK... or do as I am.. reading all the tutorials I can get on avisynth, vdub, codecs etc.

Until I learn enough to figure out what settings to use just by watching a few minutes.. I will continue to use both GK's and be damn happy someone like Len0x is dedicating so much time to make video encoding easier for n00bs like myself.

Destron
28th January 2004, 07:40
2nd audio stream support RULES! Thanks for the great software.

CeeJay.dk
28th January 2004, 10:48
I still can't make it work - How do you use it ?

zParticle
28th January 2004, 10:54
Agreed! With second audio and soft subtitles it's now almost perfect for encoding anime and other foreign titles. My final wish would be for container support (such as OGM or MKV) to allow for soft subtitles without generating additional files.

[Ctrl]+[F10] to enable the second audio track.

Love this tool--thanks len0x!

xistan
28th January 2004, 11:27
Originally posted by zParticle
Agreed! ...My final wish would be for container support (such as OGM or MKV) to allow for soft subtitles without generating additional files.



It's not a very difficult task to do this step yourself, is it? OK Takes some space and time, but maybe we should try to remember the time that AutoGK is already saving us...

/C

zParticle
28th January 2004, 12:20
Originally posted by xistan
It's not a very difficult task to do this step yourself, is it?No single piece of the puzzle is all that difficult of itself. It's all of the decisions you can make at each point and putting all of those pieces together that can make it a daunting process for a newbie.

AutoGK has done such a wonderful job of automating this much of it, I can only hope lenox continues the process--making it accessible to more people by continuing to expand its scope.

len0x
28th January 2004, 12:30
Originally posted by zParticle
make it a daunting process for a newbie.


You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

pixolex
28th January 2004, 12:55
Originally posted by len0x
You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

There are mkvtoolnix and it's so easy, don't need mkv support now...but credits compression yes :devil: maybe next step :D

And a BIIIIIIIIIIG thanks for that tools!

r6d2
28th January 2004, 16:44
@len0x, did you get my PM on the FAQ thing? :D:D:D

len0x
28th January 2004, 23:36
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I try pressing CTRL + F10 in AutoGK but I cant see anything happening when I do so.


I hope you were pressing it at the same time :)
If it doesn't work, then you probably have another application that uses that combination at the same time. We have to find the one which is not used...

len0x
28th January 2004, 23:37
Originally posted by r6d2
@len0x, did you get my PM on the FAQ thing? :D:D:D

I did - working on that :) Liked last one especially ;)

Jaw3000
29th January 2004, 00:08
I had some thoughts, which may be stupid, but: How about integrating AutoGK into GK as a "Wizard" or "Beginner" mode and the current GK as Expert/Advanced mode. Then, people who want to use AutoGK for complete automation, but also want to tweak one or two advanced settings could tweak a setting or two in expert mode and then go back to "Wizard" mode to automatically encode. The two could be tied into each other, like AutoGK (Wizard mode) makes the automatic changes under advanced mode. If not adding AutoGK to GK, how about adding automatic encoding to GK somewhat like I mentioned above, but keeping AutoGK as a newbie DVD backup only tool?

Or, another thought: A second small "tweak" app. to tweak advanced AutoGK settings in an "easier" GUI w/o having to hand edit scripts. Newbies wouldn't have to use it to get great results, but advanced users who want to use AutoGK but want to tweak it could use the "tweak" app.

Personally, I think AutoGK is great and has a much brighter future than GK. But I think it should have some more features (like AVI input) and an advanced mode for small tweaks, and then it could completely overtake GK! There has to be a way to add more features and some advanced capability w/o affecting the newbie. I think combining AutoGK with GK would be a good thing as it could automate the majority of GK encoding, but still allowing experts to tweak some settings if they want. For example, I'm a newbie and I don't really care about a lot of the tweaks, I just want the best possible quality. I would much prefer automatic encoding if it could give me the same quality (or better since I'm not messing it up) as GK can! I just wish I could auto encode AVI's I've captured. AutoGK could do so much more, but still keep it easy for newbies in my opinion! AutoGK: "Easy enough for newbies, but advanced enough for the expert. Automatic encoding for all! Long live AutoGK!"

Len0x: Probably been asked before, but will there be AVI support in AutoGK? I know it's main purpose is DVD backup, but people with captured video should be able to get automatic encoding too! :) And, btw, when do you think Xvid 1.0 RC1 support will be added to AutoGK (or GK)?

Maybe a stupid idea, but what do you think?
-Jaws

rmagere
29th January 2004, 01:06
You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

Just regarding the reasons why a newbie might want a 2nd subtitle:
English Audio + English Director's Commentary, if he wants the subtitles for the audio why shouldn't he want them for the Director's Commentary?
Also for all the non-english speakers that might want to keep the original soundtrack and also the soundtrack of their native language and subtitles for each of them.
Whether the subtitles are there because the users are deaf or hard-of-hearing or because they like to be able to follow the movie even during a crowded and noisy party it's hardly the matter, I just believe that when you allow for two soundtrack you should allow for people to want a subtitle stream for each soundtrack.

Gordie Howe
29th January 2004, 01:55
Originally posted by len0x
I hope you were pressing it at the same time :)
If it doesn't work, then you probably have another application that uses that combination at the same time. We have to find the one which is not used...

Why not just F10 on its own? It doesn't have to be a system-wide hotkey, it only has to work in AutoGK. Combination keys like Ctrl-F10 or Ctrl-Shift-F2 are usually reserved for system-wide hotkeys.

len0x
29th January 2004, 11:36
@Jaw3000

I have only one answer: time. I'll be really slowing down the development of AutoGK after 1.0 release (only support of XviD 1.0 will come asap when its released) - the only feature I'll be working _slowly_ will be config file. That's it. I'm gonna make a sticky soon about such requests, so that I don't have to explain my position on this matter.

@rmagere

We have diferent definition of a newbie. Mine is not even capable of switching between subtitles... Remind you: this tool is desinged for standalones and PCs, so I feel really reluctant to put anything which benefit only PC users.

len0x
29th January 2004, 11:37
Originally posted by Gordie Howe
Why not just F10 on its own? It doesn't have to be a system-wide hotkey, it only has to work in AutoGK. Combination keys like Ctrl-F10 or Ctrl-Shift-F2 are usually reserved for system-wide hotkeys.

It just happened that I use component which is system wide shortcut. And I had F10 used my other application on my PC. But feel free to propose a shortcut which will not interfere with anything else...

zParticle
29th January 2004, 13:15
Originally posted by len0x
We have diferent definition of a newbie. Mine is not even capable of switching between subtitles... Remind you: this tool is desinged for standalones and PCs, so I feel really reluctant to put anything which benefit only PC users.Being unwilling to dive into the murky depths of video encoding is hardly the same as not knowing how to use your own playback equipment. I think you're right: much different definitions of "newbie". I don't know anyone who hasn't watched a foreign film, and those with DVD players are very familiar with switching audio tracks and subtitles where appropriate. It isn't VCR science. :rolleyes:

I'd love pass along AGK to some newbie friends who wouldn't otherwise be motivated to learn this stuff, but would find useful a simplified tool that empowers them to create MPEG4 content in an entirely intuitive manner start to finish. AGK is not quite to that point, but it's tantilizingly close.

And while I know they exist, I don't know anyone who actually owns an MPEG4 capable standalone. Until standalone players get a LOT more prevalent, MPEG4 will largely be a computer format. In any case, don't these support multiple audio and subtitle streams just like DVD players?

You've got a really great concept here, len0x! Even without any further development it's a great tool for those of us already using it. But I'd hate to see you stop here; you've got a huge untapped audience waiting... ;)

Gordie Howe
29th January 2004, 15:33
Originally posted by len0x
It just happened that I use component which is system wide shortcut. And I had F10 used my other application on my PC. But feel free to propose a shortcut which will not interfere with anything else...

F8? F9? :) Any of the function keys would be fine. I just think there's a better chance of compatibility with other apps if it's a single key rather than a Ctrl-Alt-F9 type of combination.


I also have a request - would it be possible to have a "No audio" option? I usually prefer to take care of audio encoding myself (it's so much easier than video encoding, plus I use ogg), and if I can make AutoGK ignore audio, I could enter the filesize required for the video only and mux them together myself later.

rmagere
29th January 2004, 15:54
@Lenox
you are right I hadn't thought of newbies quite in the same way as you do (also not using myself a dvdplayer with mpeg4 support I do not know what it's like to play divx or xvid through them).
However I still believe that the choice (temporary or not) of not providing a 2nd subtitle stream when a 2nd audio track is present is not fully coherent as I still think that it makes the 2nd audio track less useful - however as I said I do not know if 2 subtitle streams make dvd-players go mental or some such and unable to play xvids.

endlocal
29th January 2004, 18:12
don't want to spoil the party, but I really do not think that any newbie would have any benefit from the "no audio" option. If someone is able to do the audio externally, then AutoGK was not really made for that person....but talking about audio: secondary audio stream was a feature I was waiting for! great! thanks! but....

I think that in a lot of (most?) cases, the secondary audio option is only used to keep an audio stream that remains unused for most playbacks (e.g. directors comments). Most Newbies would be happy to lower the quality for these "less important" audio streams, e.g. keep the usual track as AC3 and go down in quality for the secondary stream and save bits for video quality. So I think, that a checkbox like "Lower quality for secondary audio", which in fact encodes this stream to MP3 VBR (e.g.)would be of great use for this fantastic program.

Babeinternational
29th January 2004, 19:13
Just a minor error in the GUI:
In Step 3 "Custom size" it should be MB (mega-byte) or Mo (mega-octet).
I know, it's not a big deal...;-)

((( atom )))
29th January 2004, 19:33
@len0x:
i don't want to bother you, but i didn't get an answer on my question, if you plan on implementing seperate settings for the two audio-tracks.
personally i always keep the original ac3 for the original version and add mp3-audio for the second language, since it will be used more unfrequently but i still want to keep it. keeping both ac3s is overkill. throwing away the original ac3 on the other hand would also suck.

another question is: why did you actually hide the second audio function at all? i can't imagine anybody being confused by seeing that option. either you want it, or you leave it at no second audio.

this thought lead me to the following:
the ongoing discussion about advanced features:
quite some people would like to have it, but maybe even the majority could be confused and/or have bad results.

exact audio copy seemingly had similar problems at a certain point and since a certain version you can simply switch between "simple" and "advanced" mode. advanced then has some extra features enabled.

i think that actually is a very nice way to make it absoultely clear, that after throwing that switch you should a, - know what you are doing
and
b, - not blame the application if your result is other than expected.

it would give sophisticated people the chance to lay their hands on diffucult rips and might even inspire newcomers to improve their scills step by step, since they could rely on the output quality of the basic application.

i don't really care to much for extra-features, but it came to my mind. what do you think?

wertert
30th January 2004, 09:09
quick question. I'm running the lastest beta. Trying both 2 CD and 67% quallity encodes. dvd2avi now seems to run twice ! Not sure if there is a reason for this ? Any ideas ...

wert

len0x
30th January 2004, 19:35
Originally posted by Gordie Howe
F8? F9? :) Any of the function keys would be fine. I just think there's a better chance of compatibility with other apps if it's a single key rather than a Ctrl-Alt-F9 type of combination.


I have a resident application running which uses F1-F10 :)
So I'd rather go to a long combination which is used less frequently...

P.S. No Audio options is definitely not for n00bs as was pointed out :)

len0x
30th January 2004, 19:36
Originally posted by wertert
quick question. I'm running the lastest beta. Trying both 2 CD and 67% quallity encodes. dvd2avi now seems to run twice ! Not sure if there is a reason for this ? Any ideas ...


if you haven't selected second audio track, then it's a bug - I'll have a look over the weekend...

len0x
30th January 2004, 19:43
Originally posted by ((( atom )))
if you plan on implementing seperate settings for the two audio-tracks.


I understand the value of this option, but I'm afraid I simply don't have a place to put those settings (especially due to the fact that second audio option is hidden).
In the config file - definitely. Otherwise I can't promise you anything...

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
another question is: why did you actually hide the second audio function at all? i can't imagine anybody being confused by seeing that option. either you want it, or you leave it at no second audio.


Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.

P.S. I'm against separating simple and advanced interface atm...

len0x
30th January 2004, 19:45
So everybody is OK with a combination of 2.5.4 of Avisynth and VDubMod 1.5.4.1? (i.e. keeping new avisynth, but old VDubMod)

GizmoDerMokwai
30th January 2004, 23:22
Originally posted by len0x

Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.

P.S. I'm against separating simple and advanced interface atm...

hehe, i have the elta 8883 mp4 here and i have no problems with a second audiostream :D wether with ac3 nor mp3

MediaMage
31st January 2004, 00:00
STANDALONE REPORT:
-------------------

got the hiteker he-940 player today from the local MEDIA-MARKT here in Germany for 89 Euros (about 60 Pound Sterling)

XVID Got some nasty failures, but divx just looks perfect.

Player supports also .srt subtitles, also multiple subs, multiple audio trackt.

player supports PROGRESSIVE SCAN

got a coaxiac digital output
got a optica digital output
got a RGB output
got a 6 cinch 6-channel output.

this thing is so great!

even mp3pro and wma is supported, and firmware updates are supposed to come out every few month.

so if you live in germany and got an Media Markt near you, don´t hesitate to buy one ;)

len0x
31st January 2004, 00:23
curious - does any of standalones above can display 16:9 videos on 16:9 displays full screen (i.e. with no black bars at all) ?

MediaMage
31st January 2004, 01:54
BUG REPORT
-----------

got the "dvd2avi runs twice bug" dvd2avi starts, runs, exits, and then runs one more time..

gotta go to bed now, you´ll get the log via pm tomorrow morning.
settings were:
select input (720x576, PAL, 16:9 Anamorphic)
select output
select one audiotrack (NO second audio dropdown box shown, no STRG+F10 pressed)
no subtitles

ADVANCED:
Auto width
AC3
DIVX 5
(X) Show Only Forced Subs
(X) Use External Subs

custom size 1480 mb

add job
start

Log so Far:
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Input dir: G:\VIDEO_TS
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Output file: *************************
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Audio: Deutsch
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Subtitles: none
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Codec: DivX
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Target size: 1480Mb
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Custom audio settings: AC3
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Started encoding.
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Demuxing and indexing.
[31.01.2004 01:56:16] Analyzing source.

MediaMage
31st January 2004, 01:59
maybe this helps pin down the error:

4 movies ripped via dvddecrypter 3.1.9.0 to full isos

2 of them DIRECTLY ripped from mounted daemon tools iso:
dvd2avi ran twice

2 of them RIPPED in FILE MODE, then encoded from this folder via autogk:
dvd2avi ran ONCE.

gotta run some tests tomorrow.

Gordie Howe
31st January 2004, 04:14
Originally posted by len0x
I have a resident application running which uses F1-F10 :)
So I'd rather go to a long combination which is used less frequently...


Then what do you do for standard Windows keys like F2-rename, F5-refresh, F4-address bar pulldown, etc? :) To be honest the hotkey doesn't make a huge difference to me, but I think it's always good to uphold the Windows convention that single Function keys can be controlled by individual apps, and combination hotkeys can be system-wide. Almost every program I can think of does things this way.



P.S. No Audio options is definitely not for n00bs as was pointed out :)

Well usually not, you are correct. However - if implemented, it would only be an extra option in the audio pulldown list. It's self-explanatory and it doesn't take up any gui space - both of these things ensure it's not confusing for the noobs. :)

I just think it would go a long way to pleasing the users who know about different containers and audio codecs, while having no effect on noobs. Personally I think the absolute noobs would be more confused by "AC3 audio" than "No audio" in the pulldown list. ;)

rantingotaku
31st January 2004, 05:13
Originally posted by len0x
So everybody is OK with a combination of 2.5.4 of Avisynth and VDubMod 1.5.4.1? (i.e. keeping new avisynth, but old VDubMod)

no problems yet my man, great job!

MediaMage
31st January 2004, 10:20
did some quick test with the "dvd2avi runs twice bug"
- it doesn´t bother if the movie is located in a daemon tools mounted iso or are ripped in IFO mode to HDD.
- it doesn´t matter if the movie is the first in the job queue, or the 2nd or the 3rd.
- it doesn´t matter if subtitles are checked in preferences, or not, or selected
- it doesn´t matter if single audio or dual audio or dual audio mode and only one audio track selected
- it doesn´t matter whick audio language is selected
- it doesn´t matter which output size (mode)

it SEEMS that this is a dvd2avi specific problem with some movies or movie formats (hybrid, interlaced, progressive??)

gonna test a bit with this.

dvd2avi used was:
v 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2

yotsuya-san
31st January 2004, 14:15
Originally posted by Gordie Howe
Personally I think the absolute noobs would be more confused by "AC3 audio" than "No audio" in the pulldown list. ;)

Me too! Add a "CAREFUL!" to the "No audio" option label :D

endlocal
31st January 2004, 15:45
Originally posted by len0x
I understand the value of this option, but I'm afraid I simply don't have a place to put those settings (especially due to the fact that second audio option is hidden).
In the config file - definitely. Otherwise I can't promise you anything...


Well, what about modifying the "automatic" settings for audio then? Based on output size like it is now. Only with the difference, that if 2CD or bigger is chosen and a secondary Audio Track is selected you get AC3 for first and MP3 for second audio. If one intentionally chooses "AC3" then both streams are muxed that way, if one chooses "MP3" both streams are encoded in MP3 and so on....that way there would be no need for another options dialog or checkbox and would could keep that "hidden-feeling".

Just my two cents. I think that dual audio is very important, but filling ~700MB of a 2 cd rip with only audio files, only because you want to keep your favorite language in its original quality is just overkill.


Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.


Well, I also own one of the rasther new (and cheap!) standalones based on MediaTek Chip which support ASP Level5 and it has no problems with dual audio (even "mixed"). I think those players will take over the market very soon, so there's no need to consider the good 'ol "Kiss-like" Sigma-based players. They are just outdated.

Mnl
31st January 2004, 16:15
Hi Len0x

I just did an encode of Dr. Strangelove (1964) using AutoGK. The movie is 4:3, so I had expected the result to turn out with an aspect ratio rather close to 1.33.

The result however turned out having a resolution of 640x432 corresponding to an AR of 1.48. I am aware of the fact that following the ITU-R BT.601 standard results in aspect ratios not exactly equal to 1.33 when encoding 4:3 material (I am not sure wether AutoGK follows this standard or not).

Still I thought that an AR of 1.48 was a bit far from 1.33, so I tried encoding the movie in regular GK (keeping the "Follow ITU-R BT.601 Standard" tab checked) using "auto crop" and "smart crop all". This resulted in a resolution of 640x464 (AR 1.38). And I really think that the encode done in regular GK looks more like the original picture AR-wise.

Maybe I should add that unchecking "Follow ITU-R BT.601 Standard" resulted in an AR of exactly 1.33 in regular GK.

My question is then: Why are the resolutions produced by regular GK and AutoGK not the same. I'm sorry if this qustion has already been answered, but I haven't been able to find anything about it.

If there is not an immediate answer to my question, and if this issue is of any interest to you, I would be happy to do both encodes again and post my log files. (I unfortunately have incidentally deleted both the log files).

Regards,

Mnl

len0x
31st January 2004, 18:08
Originally posted by endlocal
Well, what about modifying the "automatic" settings for audio then? Based on output size like it is now. Only with the difference, that if 2CD or bigger is chosen and a secondary Audio Track is selected you get AC3 for first and MP3 for second audio. If one intentionally chooses "AC3" then both streams are muxed that way, if one chooses "MP3" both streams are encoded in MP3 and so on....that way there would be no need for another options dialog or checkbox and would could keep that "hidden-feeling".


Actually I think it's a good idea. I'll keep second audio always in mp3 format unless AC3 is selected. Thanks for suggestion.


@All
I fixed that DVD2AVI bug (when starting second time).

((( atom )))
31st January 2004, 18:28
@mediamage
@len0x

i can report on both the hiteker and the elta players, sonce i bought one for my girlfriend and tested them both.

the nasty xvid-problems with the hiteker player disappear, when you choose film mode ot auto (cant't ewxactly remember the menu) in the settings _again_, although it already was selected. weird lill bug. after that, xvid plays fine.

but:
the elta player, wich is only a few euros more, is by far the better player. everything works out of the box and it comes with a pretty big menu with lots of usefull featues.
one of them is to choose a 16:9 display as tv-device and you will get what lennox asked for: perfect 16:9 output on a 16:9 screen.
also it handles multi-audio like a charm. more and more players come up with that feature anyway. seen quite some already..

the idea about the auto audio ac3/mp3 sounds good.

endlocal
31st January 2004, 19:36
@len0x

great news! (both) thanks!

irnbru
1st February 2004, 01:42
hi you all :)
I need your help please :)

Is it possible to change the radiance of the picture, because sometimes the movie can be pretty dark. I heard it is normal cos of the encoding process the picture ends to be darker than the original one. But would it not be great to change the radiance to higher light in AutoGK?? I know AutoGK is supposed to be a nice simple newbie software but I'm sure even newbies like me will definitely appreciate this added feature :)

I tried to encode several movies with the XVID codec and I always have the following problem

Warning: Nothing to output bframe decoder lag

which is very FRUSTRATING because VIRTUALDUB doesn't like it. Do you have the same problem too with AUTOGK and XVID?

I don't have the problem with DIVX but I tend to prefer XVID. So it must be a problem of the XVID codec right? Do I have to change of XVID codec Or did I miss something??

what does this message mean anyway??? :angry:

lol sorry I am frustrated if you can help me with these two questions I will love you bigtime :p

Patricia

MediaMage
1st February 2004, 01:43
@atom: don´t got a 16:9 tv, i got a 4:3 which is replaced soon by a nice beamer ;)

i´ll try that one out in the menu thanx for the tip.

it works, but it´s very annoying to change it for EVERY single movie.

gotta write to hiteker if they could fix it in the next firmware.


@irnbru: back from Scotland, it was as cold as here in germany, but princess street and royal mile ruled!

btw: irn-bru has indeed a really cool taste.