Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[Stebs]

Originally posted by Stebs
Well first, be gentle, lets have lenox have his well-owned Holliday wont you?
Here now belongs some very cool stating, picture or what ever, but nevermind... Hey QNX that IS a cool picture...
BUT Seriously try if you can reach your walhalla(or whatwever)
(errr what??), i mean Goardian Knot is your way to go, not AutoGK...

AWWWW, sorry to QNX and all others for this Post, had sampled a bit too much Beer :(
What the Hell was this Walhalla about anyway? :confused: :rolleyes:

[QNX]

Stebs

nevemind.. i didn't understand it either :D

so any ideas about autocrop setup in autogk?
i'm really don't want to use GK :D

[Stebs]

Sorry, dont know anything about autocrop, but here are some Posts from this Forum:

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6) Tune auto crop parameters
.autocrop

First line is a threshold 1-255 (AutoGK uses 34 by default). The less number is the more cropping will be done.
Second line is number of frames to examine (AutoGK uses 10 by default)


Originally posted by Hobojobo
A hidden-option manual .crop would be very handy, wouldn't it?
lenox:
I have no plans of adding it since that will require rewriting lots of internal code...

So it seems all you can do is fiddle around with the 2 values in .autocrop

[QNX]

yeap.. i've read that.. and tried to encode with different values.. but i didn't saw any difference.. maybe i did something wrong.. that's why i need and advice from the autogk PROs :D

[gircobain]

Originally posted by QNX
yeap.. i've read that.. and tried to encode with different values.. but i didn't saw any difference.. maybe i did something wrong.. that's why i need and advice from the autogk PROs :D
In case you know a bit of avisynth scripting, you may try AutoGK Tweaker

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79227

[gircobain]

[12/7/2004 02:57:03] Found NTSC source.
[12/7/2004 02:57:03] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[12/7/2004 02:57:04] Found 166519 frames
[12/7/2004 02:57:04] Credits start frame: 199265
Since it gives the number of ivtc'd frames, shouldn't credits start frame be the ivtc'd value as well? Or maybe vice-versa

[QNX]

Originally posted by gircobain
In case you know a bit of avisynth scripting, you may try AutoGK Tweaker

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79227

and in case i'm not? :D

[gircobain]

Originally posted by QNX
and in case i'm not? :D
Learn it :)
You'll find it many a time very useful

[buzzqw]

i am unable do download 1.48 from autogk site...

"Sorry, this Module isn't active!"

:confused: :confused:

Thanks

BHH

[len0x]

I've put download module back online. I have no ^&&% idea what's going on there, but in case it's gonna go down again I won't be able to get it up for a little while, so grab it now :)

[buzzqw]

Got it ! :cool:

Thanks Len0x

BHH

[PlazzTT]

Lenox,

Great work on AutoGK! What a great tool!

Do you have any major new features planned? Any plans for a big 1.5 or 1.6 or 2.0 milestone?

Or is it just bug fixes for now?

[schiame]

Hi Lenox .. Good Work for AutoGK!

Sometimes I add several mpeg to get the mpeg for encoding..
If everyone mpeg has cropping area different then the autocrop fails.. it autocrops all with smallest crop area.. so in other zones black area is visible!

I'd like to crop using the biggest crop area indeed..
so black area will be invisible in all zones of mpeg..

This Time I tried to tune the autocrop changing the autocrop threshold in hidden file .autocrop
but it didn't work.. (Using AutoGK 1.48b version)

So to correct this problem I used GK with manual cropping...
(Very Good Work GK! )
So Can You Insert an Optional Window for Manual Cropping in
AutoGK ?
May be it will be a useful tool for all AutoGK users!
(It will be useful in all cases when autocrop fails! )

Thank You in Advance!

[QNX]

Originally posted by schiame
So Can You Insert an Optional Window for Manual Cropping in
AutoGK ?
May be it will be a useful tool for all AutoGK users!
yaya das is good :P

cause of this now it's not possible to use autogk only.. :(
see last page of this thread

[gircobain]

Originally posted by schiame
This Time I tried to tune the autocrop changing the autocrop threshold in hidden file .autocrop
but it didn't work.. (Using AutoGK 1.48b version)
[...]
So Can You Insert an Optional Window for Manual Cropping in
AutoGK ?
Have you tried increasing the number of frames to examine?

lenox has stated several times he has no intention to implement such a thing as manual cropping

[schiame]

quote:
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Originally posted by schiame
This Time I tried to tune the autocrop changing the autocrop threshold in hidden file .autocrop
but it didn't work.. (Using AutoGK 1.48b version)
[...]
So Can You Insert an Optional Window for Manual Cropping in
AutoGK ?
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Have you tried increasing the number of frames to examine?

Yes! I haven't written it in the post.. but I did it..
to increase the number of frames to examine didn't work..
maybe having several zones with different crop area.. autocrop fails.. and I get black areas in zones with biggest crop areas..

this is because I'm asking an optional manual cropping in autogk..

I think it will be very useful for all autogk users!

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I know autogk is written for all beginners and it hides many problems of ripping ... But trust me .. the cropping should'nt be completely hidden for the users ... a experienced user prefers to set manually the crop area to personalize his work...

I'm agree indeed to hide the many difficult settings in the codec control panel or the choose of the avisynth filters, for example..


so many experienced gk users will not use autogk ...
and it is bad!

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I'd like to think autogk will be a simplest interface for the gk system
to automatize all ripping operation but optionally it should to show some simple operations like cropping to the experienced user...

thank you in advance!

[QNX]

just waste 10 hours of encoding TS in the GK and got movie with "brakes" - frame rate is different and the size of the avi too :D

before encoding, i've openned TS in the DGMPGDec and got GOP error... but saved the project...

[manono]

Hi-

This is PAL? Framerate is 20fps? Did you Force Film by chance?

[QNX]

this is transport steam 1920x1080 and 60 fps :D

[manono]

Oops. Just forget I said anything. :)

[blade12]

I have a older laptop with a HDD that can only push 4200rpm. So its not really surprising that it takes a little longer than the maximum set 30 mins to demux and index during the AGK operations.

I love the simplicity of AGK and would like to continue using it ... but is there a way to disable the 30 min timeout for the demuxing step?

[((( atom )))]

a little ot or more to say general thought i had:

in my understanding we make bframes smaller because they actually are of higher quality than pframes.

what if we made them the same size as pframes for very compressible movies instead of switching them of? wouldn't we get higher quality?

i guess that is a question for manono :)

[ukb007]

Quote:
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Job aborted during demuxing

I have a older laptop with a HDD that can only push 4200rpm. So its not really surprising that it takes a little longer than the maximum set 30 mins to demux and index during the AGK operations.
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To avoid the timeout, you can generate the .d2v (and ac3) separately and feed into AGK. This (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77780) thread might help you. Also, don't forget to read len0x's FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72679) 6.6.

Only you have to make the .d2v (and ac3) before you start AGK, and then, after starting AGK, stop (but not close) DGIndex, substitute the .d2v and the ac3 with your files, taking care to make the names identical to the ones you are replacing, and then close DGIndex. AGK will resume.

Regards.

[idanm19]

Hello!

Is the new divx 5.2 fully supported ?

[gircobain]

Originally posted by idanm19
Is the new divx 5.2 fully supported ?
Of course not, since DivX 5.2 is newer than the lastest beta

It may work, but no guarantees

[idanm19]

Originally posted by gircobain
Of course not, since DivX 5.2 is newer than the lastest beta

It may work, but no guarantees

I know that.. but I wasn't sure if something in the encode parameters has changed, if not, then it might work without any further support..

[OBELIKS]

Hi
Is it possible, to put a screensaver disable option to the program? I have Seti@home as screensaver and you can imagine what happens when AutoGK and S@h run at once ;)

[Taurus]

@ OBELIKS
Just disable the screensaver before encoding :confused: :rolleyes: :D

[OBELIKS]

Shure thats one way of doing it :) . But it would be nice to have a more elegant way.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by OBELIKS
But it would be nice to have a more elegant way. It might be nice, but on the meantime I'll guess you'll have to make a choice between finding life in outerspace and encoding movies. :D:D:D

[OBELIKS]

Or encode only movies with little green men in it :D

[ydobon]

Hello, all.

Len0x added this in version 1.45 beta:
- status of combobox for langauge/subs selection is preserved after new job load (only index not actual language)
I've had no oportunity to benefit from it until yesterday when I converted a few episodes from a tv show. The subtitle languages appeared ok in the dropdowns but in the log I got a "Subtitle: none" for every episode except the first one.

It seems AGK doesn't change the visual aspect of the dropdowns but "forgets" to notice there's something selected.

I'll probably have time this weekend to test it and to be completely sure that it's not my fault, but I though on giving a heads up.


Regards,

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
It seems AGK doesn't change the visual aspect of the dropdowns but "forgets" to notice there's something selected.


correct. fixed.

[len0x]

Originally posted by idanm19
Is the new divx 5.2 fully supported ?

No, and it will take a little while (at least until weekend) to add support for it, coz I want to use different matrixes like with XviD. Also I may change soft matrix for XviD for the next release. All this requires a lot of tests to be performed.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))

in my understanding we make bframes smaller because they actually are of higher quality than pframes.


That's a pitfall. How smaller size can yield in higher quality? Afaik bframe take into consideration only motion parts from previous pframe and cannot be decoded separately. Their quality cannot be better than pframes. (in fact if it wasn't for huge size difference I wouldn't use brames at all)

[len0x]

Originally posted by blade12
I have a older laptop with a HDD that can only push 4200rpm. So its not really surprising that it takes a little longer than the maximum set 30 mins to demux and index during the AGK operations.


how long exactly ? (if manually demuxed)

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX
this is transport steam 1920x1080 and 60 fps :D

handling of 60fps sources is far from ideal. I didn't have time to work with them properly yet. Atm they always brought to 30fps and analysed as usual. So if there are no simple duplicates - result can be very jerky. I'd like to have a sample of this TS.

[QNX]

I'd like to have a sample of this TS
i wish to transform my dial-up line to adsl - trax ti bi dox to bi dox :D

i'll try tomorrow from the work, if the chief won't kill me :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by idanm19
Is the new divx 5.2 fully supported ?

On the second thought after reading some feedback from DivX forum I'm not sure I wanna support it just yet...

[QNX]

hm.. strange...

the light alloy showing that there are 60fps in that hdtv movie.. and standart windows decoder show that there are 25fps...

hell... where is the true :confused:

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX
the light alloy showing that there are 60fps in that hdtv movie..

what's "light alloy" ? :)
Anyway - can you cut out very small part of TS using ProjectX(basically demux a part of video to m2v file) and make it available to me please? After we determined what the source is I might need a bigger sample for analysis...

[QNX]

this is powerfull video player for US

http://www.softella.com/ :D

about sample.. i'll try later.. can't now :(

[itsme_4ucz]

I would like to what r default setting for the xvid in autogk for 2 cd rip.And can i change those settings to more good quliety rip,&where.
To len0x
When releasing the ver 1.5 release a full pack.

Thx.

[len0x]

Originally posted by itsme_4ucz
IAnd can i change those settings to more good quliety rip,&where.


:readfaq:

[itsme_4ucz]

hi
len0x
good to see ur online,i am eagerly waiting for full ver 1.5.

thx.

[len0x]

version 1.50 is not gonna be stable...

[itsme_4ucz]

As far as my knowledge goes 1.48 is quite stable.

thx.

[len0x]

Originally posted by itsme_4ucz
As far as my knowledge goes 1.48 is quite stable.


I don't mean its behaviour :) I meant title - still beta.

[len0x]

I'm doing slight modification to AutoGK these days: hidden option for enabling sharp matrix for small sources, increasing comp test frames for short sources (to make it more precise). What do you thiunk should be limit of frames - 2000, 3000, 5000?

DivX 5.2 support is there but only for H263 matrix as MPEG matrix is b0rked there. Also I switched soft matrix to Javor's 1CD matrix.

[Shuichiro]

I've seen version 1.5 @ CHIP for download but haven't seen it @ the AutoGK homepage. Is it safe to install the new version or was it removed for some reasons?