Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
If I remember correctly, former versions of AutoGk used 300/15 as select range, the new release(s)? use 29/15.


Its 5% or ~1000 frames whichever is higher now, so that on short sources you get better accuracy. This should not affect normal movies

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Its 5% or ~1000 frames whichever is higher now, so that on short sources you get better accuracy. This should not affect normal movies

Ooops, sorry! Now I remember, -this is truly a feature.
Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me :( :)

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
EDIT: beta 4...


I like this one. Compressibility is between V2 and beta 1. Its sharper than V2 and I see no real difference in blocking compared to beta1 (although its shaper). Anyone else testing?

[Sharktooth]

Good, but i think further tweaking for compressibility without loosing sharpness is not possible (or there is only a very little space for improvement).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Anyone else testing?

Due to the lack of time now, maybe this evening I will make up for a little test round.
What source are you using? Don't want to compare apple with Poire or peaches :D
Normally I use a crystal clear sequenz, compare it to a mainstream one ,and as the salt on the butter, a real noisy clip.
Of course some real action and very slow movements...smoke and water..

Cheers

Taurus

[Mouse]

AutoGK 1.73B sets wrong aspect ratio when you choose "Advanced Settings" -> "Fixed Width" -> 512 for PAL source.

512x384 would be correct. It sets 512x320.

This worked in 1.60.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse

This worked in 1.60.

Same source? I doubt, coz nothing's been changed.

[Mouse]

Yes, same source. Correct.

I edit this post.

Un-installed and re-installed AutoGK again. Works perfect now. Dunno what was wrong? ;)

Thanks for an absolute awesome software!

Now if we could get "range-encode" this would complete this superb software.

Keep up the great work len0x!

[ukb007]

You can, of course, use AGK for a range encode just by making a d2v project yourself, selecting the range while making it, and feeding it to AGK.

Regards.

[BigDid]

Hello ukb007 or anybody else,

Originally posted by ukb007
You can, of course, use AGK for a range encode just by making a d2v project yourself, selecting the range while making it, and feeding it to AGK.

Regards.

Just done a search on "range encode" without success :( , would appreciate more explanations on the concept, my level being newbie1 (don't even know when I will level up to newbie2 with so much to learn :D ).

Thanks in advance.

Did

[Taurus]

Originally posted by BigDid
Just done a search on "range encode" without success
Did

Read the FAQ: Position 6.6
Of course, DVD2AVI is not used anymore. DGIndex is what it's called now. The FAQ is somewhat outdated at times, cos of often changes in program:D
When the encoding process starts and DGIndex launches, maximize it from the toolbar. Hit Escape, then F5, again Escape. Now you are able to scroll through the clip. Set your desired cut and trim markers and select Save Project under File Menu.
Make sure you overwrite existing *.d2v File.
AutoGk will go on after this little tweak as in normal operation
modus. Voila!

Cheers

Taurus

[BigDid]

@ Taurus,

I could have searched a long time. So is "range" to be understood (my english is kind of rusty needs a lot of WD40 :cool: ) as something like: -subset(s) to select within a set of vobs- ?

Thanks for the info, good day to you

Did

[richarddd]

Cosmetic issue with 1.73:

The log window doesn't scroll properly. Instead of the text filling each line of the window, with new text appearing at the bottom and old text scrolling off the top, new text sometimes re-writes the window, so that there is only one or two lines in the window.

Scrolling didn't always work correctly in 1.60 - sometimes at start-up the old text wouldn't scroll up, but once you used the scrollbars to have the last line of text appear at the end of the window, it would thereafter work correctly.

[Mouse]

Taurus,

Thank you, thank you and thank you! Excellent, that made my day!

[Exoskeletor]

The best log window for me could be:
A list box window (with horrizontal and vertical bars) in which every time something new is added, the last line will be focused

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Anyone else testing?

As promised (with a little delay)here are the results of the german jury: ;)

No big words: My favourite is V2. Beta4 adds some artificial sharpness
which might be useful at specific sources. But my overall impression is,
that V2 gives a more natural appeal to mainstream rips.
Even on high coloured (Nemo, Monster, Shrek)animatations the look is more shimmering and roundish, not so harsh as with beta4.
As always, comparision was made @ Q=2, 720:XXX, one pass, AutoGk-avs.
Didn't test it on television screen.
I think, Sharktooth does a good Job on Beta4, it will remain in my collection of useful matrices.(V2 too).
But on the other hand,if we look for a more universal matrice, V2 is the right way. Will do some more crosschecking with older matrices as well, if I find the time for new roundup.

Cheers

Taurus

[richarddd]

I just encoded a movie using 1.73 with audio set at vbr 160. GS reports audio at 142 kb/s. Every other encode I can remember, audio was within a few kb/s of the rate I used in settings (unless .mono).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by richarddd
I just encoded a movie using 1.73 with audio set at vbr 160. GS reports audio at 142 kb/s. Every other encode I can remember, audio was within a few kb/s of the rate I used in settings (unless .mono).

I think this is pretty normal behaviour for variable bitrate mp3.
If the source compresses this well, sometimes you get an undershoot.
Don't worry, the more bits and bytes are for the video ;)
If your concern is constant bitrate, just use cbr. For some standalone
players it's also a good decision. But remember, only in vbr mode bit distribution follows the source. So in low spectral parts bits are saved for high spectral consuming parts.
Is there any audible loss? Just trust your ears and don't count on numbers.

Cheers

Taurus

[richarddd]

@Taurus,

this was the first encoding I had done in which there was a meaningful gap between desired bit-rate and bit-rate as reported by GS (and I've encoded a fair amount with AutoGK). I can't A-B the original audio against the mp3, but speech usually requires a much lower bit-rate than music and this movie has very little music. Also the movie is older and is stereo (rather than 5.1). I'd like to make sure there's no issue, mainly for when I'm encoding more demanding material. I doubt len0x is changing the audio parts of the code, so I doubt there's an issue, but one never knows.

[Sharktooth]

Oh well audio encoding is done thru LAME. So i doubt len0x will change it.
Now, beta4 and the sharpness "issue"...
Can you explain what does it mean "artificial sharpness"?
Maybe some screenshots would help...
However Shrek and Nemo are CG...
I have some doubts about "Monster"... is it Monster & Co. (CG) or Monster?
In the first case i agree with you. V2 has a softer coefficient scaling that's preferable for CG-cartoonish materials, while beta 4 is more film-oriented.
Maybe len0x could implement an easy workaround for those kind of movies (a hidden option) that will select a specific matrix (V2 for example) for that purpouse.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I have some doubts about "Monster"... is it Monster & Co. (CG) or Monster?

Sure it's CG (Monster &Co). English is not my native language, so sometimes definitions get mixed up ;)

As I stated before, it's my personal point of view. Beta4 is quite desirable at darkish "real" film content.
Did some short cuts on Matrix Reloaded, its quite different with V2.
On this special clips, beta4 is the winner.
But all depends on the eyes, viewing distance, monitor, etc.
I don't have a TFT screen, so it might be an error on my side.
About screenshots: Surely I have made a lot of them in the past.
But to my opinion they don't reflect visuality correct. If the quant distribution changes,
a picture in motion looks quite different compared to a static one.
I will do some more testing if you want me to do so.
Maybe a hint which source to use, so we can talk at even level.

There are no real bad matrices around, they are just different for special purposes.
So for AutoGk we have to find the universal one, which suits the needs for the Pro's and the Noobs.
That's why I normally tend to a more smoother matrice because of noobs
mistakes ;)
So, now I have to go out and do some real living.

Thanks for your feedback.

Cheers

Taurus

[ukb007]

Range means a specific chosen duration of movie material starting at a point of your choice.

Taurus is right. DVD2AVI is not the name of the program used now; it's DGIndex, although the resulting file extension is still d2v.

If you are new to AGK then this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83382) may help you. You select the range in the DGIndex window that you open, by means of a slider at the bottom for positioning of your start and end points of the range, and then using [ and ] buttons for fixing those points. DGIndex.exe will then index only that part (range) of the movie for use in the AGK.

Regards.

[BigDid]

Hi ukb007

Originally posted by ukb007
Range means a specific chosen duration of movie material starting at a point of your choice.

this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83382) may help you. You select the range in the DGIndex window that you open, by means of a slider at the bottom for positioning of your start and end points of the range, and then using [ and ] buttons for fixing those points. DGIndex.exe will then index only that part (range) of the movie for use in the AGK.


I thing I got it right now: changing the d2v file (inside dgindex) or editing it outside can trick agk. Two possible applications are
- changing the AR
- changing the range; for this one I have an immediate use for mpeg2 captured files. Instead of splitting the file(s) before feeding AGK, I should be able to do it via Dgindex inside AGK. Will try it with next capture.

I have more immediate concerns with my standalone going bork with a 2Gb encode of the LOTR2 (640 wide, vbr mp3 192kbs); Too much bitrate at 1h25mn during the attack of the wargs. I will test different possibilities and eventually come back to the forum for help. I already tried a smaller file (1.53Gb 608 wide vbr 160: works) but the goal is to retain same quality with a 2Gb or near file without the standalone freezing (The H&B 3220 has been tested Ok up to 6000kbs!). From what I have read, it may be related with the absence of the vbv buffer that is/will be included with the 1.1 xvid encoder. Wondering if using the 1.1 beta and checking the vbv box before doing a normal encode with AGK would do it?

Anyhow, thanks for your time and good infos :cool:

Best regards

Did

[richarddd]

Originally posted by BigDid
I have more immediate concerns with my standalone going bork with a 2Gb encode of the LOTR2 (640 wide, vbr mp3 192kbs); Too much bitrate at 1h25mn during the attack of the wargs.

Are you burning to CDs or to DVDs?

[mrdutchie]

I would like to see a Load/Save Queue option.
So far I didn't find any..
Is this possible??

[BigDid]

Originally posted by richarddd
Are you burning to CDs or to DVDs?

Hi Richarddd

To DVD -R mainly but I could transfer the 2Gb file to +R or +RW if needed; burner is a LiteOn 832S with external enclosure via USB2.

Did

[Taurus]

Originally posted by BigDid
Hi Wondering if using the 1.1 beta and checking the vbv box before doing a normal encode with AGK would do it?

No, Autogk resets all Xvid Settings to its desired status, but never had tested it on vbv.
And some small hint. Don't mess around with different versions of Xvid.
There was a time, when people complained about AutoGk not working right.
They got overshoots and undershoots, even lost their hair, cos of wrong versions and or mixed up installs. So just use it if you know exactly what your doing ;)

Cheers

Taurus

[Taurus]

Originally posted by mrdutchie
I would like to see a Load/Save Queue option.
So far I didn't find any..
Is this possible??

What do you think is the job queue field for? Or read the FAQ's and Help.
You can queue as many encodes as you want from there...and go to bed for three or mor days.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
No, Autogk resets all Xvid Settings to its desired status, but never had tested it on vbv.


If that's a new option in registry then AutoGK doesn't reset it since program doesn't know that it exists.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
What do you think is the job queue field for? Or read the FAQ's and Help.


He meant persistent queue...

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
Ok I'll try to keep them for as long as needed or possible.
Should I also keep the various encoding to give feedback on visual quality or is that unnecessary?


Version 1.74 is released and I hope you can post a lon from its encode on your source. You don't have to keep actual encodes - there should not be any drastic difference.

[Alwayscamp]

hi .. don't particapate much but do check in once in a while.
thanks for the program have used it a few times.
I made to encodings using the same settings in autoGK the difference - one was DivX 5.2 and one XviD(whatever is boundeled with Autogk) using version 1.73. i figured that i would get the same resolution in both but the xvid one was twice the size just thought that i would post the info in case it wasn't supposed to be that way. also the quality of the divx one i thought was a lot worse .. any way here are the two log files

The Divx Log File

[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] AutoGK 1.73b
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Job started.
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Input dir: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Output file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\Titanic - DivX.avi
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Audio: English
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Subtitles: none
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Codec: DivX
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Started encoding.
[11/7/2004 6:14:41 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Found NTSC source.
[11/7/2004 6:17:41 AM] Analyzing source.
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 46.34
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.08
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.92
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Found 279873 frames
[11/7/2004 6:30:33 AM] Encoding audio.
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Audio size: 181,810,712 bytes (173.39 Mb)
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Overhead: 18,054,784 bytes (17.22 Mb)
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Video size: 534,137,704 bytes (509.39 Mb)
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Target bitrate is: 366kbps
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Running compressibility test.
[11/7/2004 7:03:30 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - DivX_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - DivX.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
DRemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[11/7/2004 7:17:21 AM] Duration was: 13 minutes 47 seconds
[11/7/2004 7:17:21 AM] Speed was: 16.92 fps.
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 18.12
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Using softer resizer.
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Chosen resolution is: 336x160 ( AR: 2.10 )
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 62.14
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Running first pass.
[11/7/2004 7:17:22 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - DivX_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - DivX.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 336
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
DRemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[11/7/2004 9:13:15 AM] Duration was: 1 hour, 55 minutes 50 seconds
[11/7/2004 9:13:15 AM] Speed was: 40.27 fps.
[11/7/2004 9:13:15 AM] Running second pass.
[11/7/2004 11:04:46 AM] Duration was: 1 hour, 51 minutes 25 seconds
[11/7/2004 11:04:46 AM] Speed was: 41.86 fps.
[11/7/2004 11:04:46 AM] Job finished.



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The XviD Log File

[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] AutoGK 1.73b
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Job started.
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Input dir: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Output file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\Titanic - XviD.avi
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Audio: English
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Subtitles: none
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Codec: XviD
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Started encoding.
[11/7/2004 11:04:47 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Processing file: D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[11/7/2004 11:07:43 AM] Found NTSC source.
[11/7/2004 11:07:44 AM] Analyzing source.
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 46.34
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.08
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.92
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Found 279873 frames
[11/7/2004 11:20:03 AM] Encoding audio.
[11/7/2004 11:51:48 AM] Audio size: 181,810,712 bytes (173.39 Mb)
[11/7/2004 11:51:48 AM] Overhead: 11,194,880 bytes (10.68 Mb)
[11/7/2004 11:51:48 AM] Video size: 540,997,608 bytes (515.94 Mb)
[11/7/2004 11:51:48 AM] Running compressibility test.
[11/7/2004 11:51:48 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - XviD_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - XviD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
DRemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Duration was: 15 minutes 39 seconds
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Speed was: 14.90 fps.
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 23.27
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Chosen resolution is: 608x272 ( AR: 2.24 )
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 25.94
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Running first pass.
[11/7/2004 12:07:27 PM] Writing the following script to D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - XviD_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TITANIC\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\Titanic - XviD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
DRemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[11/7/2004 2:56:46 PM] Duration was: 2 hours 49 minutes 18 seconds
[11/7/2004 2:56:46 PM] Speed was: 27.55 fps.
[11/7/2004 2:56:47 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 25.95
[11/7/2004 2:56:47 PM] Running second pass.
[11/7/2004 6:56:43 PM] Duration was: 3 hours 59 minutes 56 seconds
[11/7/2004 6:56:43 PM] Speed was: 19.44 fps.
[11/7/2004 6:56:43 PM] Job finished.


----------------------------
thanks again for the great program

[len0x]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
I made to encodings using the same settings in autoGK the difference - one was DivX 5.2 and one XviD(whatever is boundeled with Autogk) using version 1.73.

Can you please try version 1.74 with XviD.

[Alwayscamp]

ok just downloaded it will try again tonight EST

[len0x]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
ok just downloaded it will try again tonight EST

you don't even have to do full encoding if you see that predicted comptest value is that low (just abort it then and post the logfile please)

[Sharktooth]

Len0x, could you please try beta4 with other sources too?
My tests show beta4 has better (!!!) compressibility than V2 in 3 out of 4 encodes...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Len0x, could you please try beta4 with other sources too?
My tests show beta4 has better (!!!) compressibility than V2 in 3 out of 4 encodes...

sure, but I won't have time until the weekend. But we're not in a hurry anyway :)

[Sharktooth]

Ok, what do you think of Taurus comments about V2 and beta4?
Should i "soften" beta 4?

[len0x]

I don't know yet - I need to do more tests. I haven't really tested it on any cartoons (and probably will not be able as I don't own anything apart from Anymatrix, that can be a good test though). But I agree with Taurus on one thing - V2 is indeed very solid multipurpose matrix.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by len0x
But I agree with Taurus on one thing - V2 is indeed very solid multipurpose matrix.
I know...

[rmagere]

Originally posted by Len0x
Originally posted by rmagere
Ok I'll try to keep them for as long as needed or possible.
Should I also keep the various encoding to give feedback on visual quality or is that unnecessary?
Version 1.74 is released and I hope you can post a lon from its encode on your source. You don't have to keep actual encodes - there should not be any drastic difference.


Ok it's running - it hasn't finished yet however I shall post here a cut and paste of the log window as I think it might have gone in a loop (not sure if it has so I'll give it another 12 hours to figure itself out unless you tell me to abort it and just post the actual log).

[08/11/2004 14:32:48] AutoGK 1.74b
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Job started.
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Input dir: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Output file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17.avi
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Audio: Japanese
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Subtitles: [SubPicture 02: Normal]
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Codec: XviD
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Target size: 750Mb
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 144Kbps
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Started encoding.
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Demuxing and indexing.
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Processing file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Source resolution: 720x480
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Found NTSC source.
[08/11/2004 14:35:13] Analyzing source.
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Found threshold of: 1.93
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Found 155580 frames
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Encoding audio.
[08/11/2004 14:50:40] Indexing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 14:54:30] Compressing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Audio size: 93,532,832 bytes (89.20 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Overhead: 6,223,232 bytes (5.93 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Subtitles size: 888,243 bytes (0.85 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Video size: 685,787,693 bytes (654.02 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Running compressibility test.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Duration was: 7 minutes 7 seconds
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Speed was: 18.21 fps.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Compressibility percentage is: 32.70
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Using softer matrix.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1.33 )
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Predicted comptest value is: 61.82
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Running first pass.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Duration was: 55 minutes 59 seconds
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Speed was: 46.30 fps.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Expected quality of first pass size: 91.50
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Using sharper matrix
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Chosen resolution is: 592x448 ( AR: 1.32 )
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Predicted comptest value is: 67.83
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Re-running first pass.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Duration was: 1 hour, 1 minute, 23 seconds
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Speed was: 42.24 fps.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Expected quality of first pass size: 47.15
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Using softer matrix.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1.33 )
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Predicted comptest value is: 63.61
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Re-running first pass.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
Ok it's running - it hasn't finished yet however I shall post here a cut and paste of the log window as I think it might have gone in a loop (not sure if it has so I'll give it another 12 hours to figure itself out unless you tell me to abort it and just post the actual log).


This is interesting. Its not in the loop yet, but may be will :)
I did not expect resolution to be increased along with matrix change (I think "Predicted comptest value is: 67.83" is simply not right for 592 width)

*Edit* i just realized what's wrong - quite a major bug there: matrix/resizer adjustments are lost after resolution adjustments. :( Stay tuned...

[rmagere]

Originally posted by Len0x

Stay tuned...

I will. Just let me know what you would like me to do (we are running on the same timeframe given that I am also in the uk). I expect I'll be hanging around the lab for some time yet (but for a dinner break) so I should be able to run new version or do some other adjustment almost real-time if you need.

Edit:

Yep it's definetely in a loop now as:
[08/11/2004 18:01:16] Duration was: 1 hour, 2 minutes 10 seconds
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Speed was: 41.71 fps.
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Expected quality of first pass size: 91.50
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Using sharper matrix
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Chosen resolution is: 592x448 ( AR: 1.32 )
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Predicted comptest value is: 67.83
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Re-running first pass.

It's the same info as in :
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Expected quality of first pass size: 91.50
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Using sharper matrix
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Chosen resolution is: 592x448 ( AR: 1.32 )
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Predicted comptest value is: 67.83

Anyway I have aborted the encoding now and here is the full log (though you already know where the bug is):

[08/11/2004 14:32:48] AutoGK 1.74b
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Job started.
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Input dir: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Output file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17.avi
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Audio: Japanese
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Subtitles: [SubPicture 02: Normal]
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Codec: XviD
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Target size: 750Mb
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 144Kbps
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Started encoding.
[08/11/2004 14:32:48] Demuxing and indexing.
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Processing file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Source resolution: 720x480
[08/11/2004 14:35:12] Found NTSC source.
[08/11/2004 14:35:13] Analyzing source.
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 48.17
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 42.38
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 15.33
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 42.29
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[08/11/2004 14:38:09] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Found threshold of: 1.93
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Found 155580 frames
[08/11/2004 14:38:36] Encoding audio.
[08/11/2004 14:50:40] Indexing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 14:54:30] Compressing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Audio size: 93,532,832 bytes (89.20 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Overhead: 6,223,232 bytes (5.93 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Subtitles size: 888,243 bytes (0.85 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Video size: 685,787,693 bytes (654.02 Mb)
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Running compressibility test.
[08/11/2004 14:54:34] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Duration was: 7 minutes 7 seconds
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Speed was: 18.21 fps.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Compressibility percentage is: 32.70
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Using softer matrix.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1.33 )
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Predicted comptest value is: 61.82
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Running first pass.
[08/11/2004 15:01:42] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Duration was: 55 minutes 59 seconds
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Speed was: 46.30 fps.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Expected quality of first pass size: 91.50
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Using sharper matrix
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Chosen resolution is: 592x448 ( AR: 1.32 )
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Predicted comptest value is: 67.83
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Re-running first pass.
[08/11/2004 15:57:42] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 592
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Duration was: 1 hour, 1 minute, 23 seconds
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Speed was: 42.24 fps.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Expected quality of first pass size: 47.15
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Using softer matrix.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1.33 )
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Predicted comptest value is: 63.61
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Re-running first pass.
[08/11/2004 16:59:06] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 18:01:16] Duration was: 1 hour, 2 minutes 10 seconds
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Speed was: 41.71 fps.
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Expected quality of first pass size: 91.50
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Trying to adjust settings.
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Using sharper matrix
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Chosen resolution is: 592x448 ( AR: 1.32 )
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Predicted comptest value is: 67.83
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Re-running first pass.
[08/11/2004 18:01:17] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 592
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Job aborted
*************************************
[08/11/2004 18:06:26] Job finished.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
I will. Just let me know what you would like me to do (we are running on the same timeframe given that I am also in the uk). I expect I'll be hanging around the lab for some time yet (but for a dinner break) so I should be able to run new version or do some other adjustment almost real-time if you need.

You can abort encoding - that's for sure. I do not have a solution yet though...

[len0x]

ok, you can try this version: http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~len0x/AutoGK.exe
I've adjusted some stuff for XviD only, so it might not work at all (I didn't have too much time - will continue tomorrow, but at least I'll know if I'm on the right track)

[rmagere]

Ok I started it later on I'll post the log (or worst case I shall post it tomorrow morning).

Edit:

Ok this time it run the first pass one time only here is the log:
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] AutoGK 1.74b
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Job started.
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Input dir: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Output file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17.avi
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Audio: Japanese
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Subtitles: [SubPicture 02: Normal]
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Codec: XviD
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Target size: 750Mb
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 144Kbps
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Started encoding.
[08/11/2004 18:50:42] Demuxing and indexing.
[08/11/2004 18:52:20] Processing file: D:\BugTesting\X_14-17 3.36\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[08/11/2004 18:52:20] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[08/11/2004 18:52:20] Source resolution: 720x480
[08/11/2004 18:52:20] Found NTSC source.
[08/11/2004 18:52:20] Analyzing source.
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 48.17
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 42.38
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 15.33
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 42.29
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[08/11/2004 18:55:14] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[08/11/2004 18:55:40] Found threshold of: 1.93
[08/11/2004 18:55:40] Found 155580 frames
[08/11/2004 18:55:40] Encoding audio.
[08/11/2004 19:07:50] Indexing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 19:09:26] Compressing subtitles.
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Audio size: 93,532,832 bytes (89.20 Mb)
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Overhead: 6,223,232 bytes (5.93 Mb)
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Subtitles size: 888,243 bytes (0.85 Mb)
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Video size: 685,787,693 bytes (654.02 Mb)
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Running compressibility test.
[08/11/2004 19:09:30] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Duration was: 7 minutes 12 seconds
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Speed was: 18.00 fps.
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Compressibility percentage is: 32.70
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Using softer matrix.
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Chosen resolution is: 560x416 ( AR: 1.35 )
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Predicted comptest value is: 70.40
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Running first pass.
[08/11/2004 19:16:42] Writing the following script to D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\BugTesting\agk_tmp\X_14-17.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 560
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.93)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[08/11/2004 20:14:34] Duration was: 57 minutes 51 seconds
[08/11/2004 20:14:34] Speed was: 44.82 fps.
[08/11/2004 20:14:34] Expected quality of first pass size: 77.53
[08/11/2004 20:14:34] Running second pass.
[08/11/2004 21:28:30] Duration was: 1 hour, 13 minutes 55 seconds
[08/11/2004 21:28:30] Speed was: 35.08 fps.
[08/11/2004 21:28:30] Job finished.

[len0x]

great, looks like that did the trick

[rmagere]

It does look that way as it was able to find the resolution between
512x384 and 592x448. What I found interesting is that it found it just after the first compressability test so no iterative search for the best solution went on.

You are gooood, in case noone said that before in this thread :D

[len0x]

Fixed resizing algorithm for both DivX and XviD - for ages when matrix/resizer adjustements were not the last ones - AutoGK would not correctly predict compressibility and reduce resolution anyway (it was like that from the beginning, but we noticed it only now when I have made adjustements after the first pass). :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
What I found interesting is that it found it just after the first compressability test so no iterative search for the best solution went on.


well, it was supposed to do that in the first place. But after matrix was switched - it was still quite a bit higher than required, so when resolution is increased - previously AutoGK "forgot" that matrix was switched and proceeds like it wasn't (that's why you ended up with higher resolution).

[rmagere]

Ok I understand.

By the way do you still need me to hang on the source vobs or can I get rid of them? (I suspect I can but wouldn't want to just do away with them and you still needing some testing).

EDIT:
|Referring to message below.
|
|Yep deleted them
|
V

[len0x]

It should be OK to delete them now.

[kilivipin]

Just a quick question. I installed the lkatest stable and then updated with the latest beta, 1.73, I believe. I just downloaded 1.75. Can I just run the installer and not uninstall the previous beta?

[len0x]

Originally posted by kilivipin
Can I just run the installer and not uninstall the previous beta?

yes

[kilivipin]

Thank you. You rule! Great program. One of the best really.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by BigDid
... Wondering if using the 1.1 beta and checking the vbv box before doing a normal encode with AGK would do it?
Did [/B]

I am trying the above actually, any links to tools for bitrate statistics?
I would need a tool (easy to use if possible) that reads an avi/xvid file and gives/summarize the bitrates infos for that file: avg, min, max etc..

So far I have found:
- DRFAnalyser (which gives me graphics but no summary)
- OSD of the MPC Player (wich gives me instant input bitrate only, may vary from one play to another)
- FileInfo from VDubMod (gives only frame size for min/avg/max)

Thanks for your infos.

Did

[quake74]

Hi,

First, great piece of software len0x, thanks.
Second, there was a bunch of dvd on amazon.co.uk for 6-7 pounds, and I bougth quite a few of time, time to backup!
I am encoding a sitcom (Coupling). I want to fit 6 episodes per CD, which gives me a target size of 116Mb. Using audio Auto (I guess 128kbs) I get:

[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] AutoGK 1.75b
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Job started.
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Input dir: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_2
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Output file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_2\Coupling 1x02 Size Matters.avi
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Audio: English
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Target size: 116Mb
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Started encoding.
[11/10/2004 9:38:21 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Processing file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_2\VTS_02_1.VOB
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Processing file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_2\VTS_02_2.VOB
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Source resolution: 720x576
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Found PAL source.
[11/10/2004 9:39:14 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/10/2004 9:41:03 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[11/10/2004 9:41:03 PM] Found 43593 frames
[11/10/2004 9:41:03 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/10/2004 9:46:03 PM] Audio size: 28,623,344 bytes (27.30 Mb)
[11/10/2004 9:46:03 PM] Overhead: 1,743,744 bytes (1.66 Mb)
[11/10/2004 9:46:03 PM] Video size: 91,267,728 bytes (87.04 Mb)
[11/10/2004 9:46:03 PM] Running compressibility test.
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 13 seconds
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Speed was: 11.27 fps.
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 31.75
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Chosen resolution is: 608x352 ( AR: 1.73 )
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 34.94
[11/10/2004 9:49:16 PM] Running first pass.

It's still running first pass now. But why didn't it scale down a little? The comptest value is really low! I already encoded the first episode, it decided to use the same resolution and it's too blocky. Am I doing something wrong?

[quake74]

So, the second episode got compressed at 608 width, very very ugly. I tried the third episode (they are all very similar and should have similar compressibility) with a max width of 512 and AutoGK decided for a width of 400 (which is about right at these low bitrates). Here it is:

[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] AutoGK 1.75b
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Job started.
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Input dir: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_3
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Output file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_3\Coupling 1x03 Sex Death and Nudity.avi
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Audio: English
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Target size: 116Mb
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Started encoding.
[11/10/2004 11:13:13 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Processing file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_3\VTS_02_1.VOB
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Processing file: F:\Coupling\VIDEO_TS_3\VTS_02_2.VOB
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Source resolution: 720x576
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Found PAL source.
[11/10/2004 11:14:07 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/10/2004 11:16:04 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[11/10/2004 11:16:04 PM] Found 43826 frames
[11/10/2004 11:16:04 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/10/2004 11:21:41 PM] Audio size: 28,797,536 bytes (27.46 Mb)
[11/10/2004 11:21:41 PM] Overhead: 1,753,088 bytes (1.67 Mb)
[11/10/2004 11:21:41 PM] Video size: 91,084,192 bytes (86.86 Mb)
[11/10/2004 11:21:41 PM] Running compressibility test.
[11/10/2004 11:24:35 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 51 seconds
[11/10/2004 11:24:35 PM] Speed was: 12.79 fps.
[11/10/2004 11:24:37 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 44.74
[11/10/2004 11:24:37 PM] Chosen resolution is: 400x224 ( AR: 1.79 )
[11/10/2004 11:24:37 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 73.63
[11/10/2004 11:24:37 PM] Running first pass.

The first pass is going on, while I am going to sleep. It is gonna compress another 3 episodes and I'll report back.

[BigDid]

@ Sharktooth, thanks for the infos found in the xvid thread
@ LenOx, hope it can help when migrating to xvid 1.1

First of all I was not able to reproduce the stall of my standalone, I suspect some mysterious correlations between the xvid high bitrate, the 2gb file size, the dvd-r media and/or the 192 vbr audio :(

As I had already started I went to the end of the tests to give the results (still seeking a bitrate stats tool :p )
The initial movie was 640 wide (LOTR2) but vobs unavailable at the moment to make a short split so I used LOTR3 which also stalled (same 192 vbr audio, same 2gb size & 624 wide).

I made a 12866 frames/Pal split and increased the size of the encode seeking the stall. I ended with a full size, 95% quality and still no stall :confused:
So I made the tests with a 80Mb size, resolution 672*288, same length (12866 frames), same AGK rev: 1.74, +- same encoded files size :min 81944 max 81968, same bitrate: 1300kbps, same machine: laptop 1.2 Gb celeron.

Find the summary of the results here:

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9263/Ecran4.png

or here with the snapshots:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=568408#post568408

Any power-user, senior or master feel free to detail the results as I don't feel qualified to do so. If I have the time I will try to post snapshots of the DRFanalyser graph for each input.

Did

/Edit: Still not familiar with picture attachment, if it does'nt show up I will try to re-attach it in this post or a new one/

[Alwayscamp]

i tried again with v 1.74 and got the same results .. before i finished i saw you got 1.75 up. i haven't tried with it although i can if you think you might have changed somthing that would a;ter my results.
here are the log files

divx_agk.log

[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] AutoGK 1.74b
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Job started.
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Input dir: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Output file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\Divx.avi
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Audio: English
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Codec: DivX
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Target size: 700Mb
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Started encoding.
[11/8/2003 2:11:48 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_1.VOB
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_2.VOB
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_3.VOB
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[11/8/2003 2:14:20 PM] Found NTSC source.
[11/8/2003 2:14:21 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 47.26
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.80
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.20
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[11/8/2003 2:29:50 PM] Found 272786 frames
[11/8/2003 2:29:51 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Audio size: 177,198,416 bytes (168.99 Mb)
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Overhead: 17,597,696 bytes (16.78 Mb)
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Video size: 539,207,088 bytes (514.23 Mb)
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Target bitrate is: 379kbps
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Running compressibility test.
[11/8/2003 3:03:39 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\Divx_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\Divx.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[11/8/2003 3:16:19 PM] Duration was: 12 minutes 36 seconds
[11/8/2003 3:16:19 PM] Speed was: 18.03 fps.
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 17.44
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Using softer resizer.
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Chosen resolution is: 320x144 ( AR: 2.22 )
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 69.77
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Running first pass.
[11/8/2003 3:16:20 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\Divx_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\Divx.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 320
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[11/8/2003 5:04:27 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 48 minutes 3 seconds
[11/8/2003 5:04:27 PM] Speed was: 42.07 fps.
[11/8/2003 5:04:27 PM] Running second pass.
[11/8/2003 6:54:19 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 49 minutes 46 seconds
[11/8/2003 6:54:20 PM] Speed was: 41.42 fps.
[11/8/2003 6:54:20 PM] Job finished.


------------------------------------

XviD_agk.log

[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] AutoGK 1.74b
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Job started.
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Input dir: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Output file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\XviD.avi
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Audio: English
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Target size: 700Mb
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Started encoding.
[11/8/2003 6:54:22 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_1.VOB
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_2.VOB
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\VTS_01_3.VOB
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[11/8/2003 6:56:37 PM] Found NTSC source.
[11/8/2003 6:56:38 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 47.26
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.80
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.20
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Found 272786 frames
[11/8/2003 7:09:17 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/8/2003 7:45:20 PM] Audio size: 177,198,416 bytes (168.99 Mb)
[11/8/2003 7:45:20 PM] Overhead: 10,911,488 bytes (10.41 Mb)
[11/8/2003 7:45:20 PM] Video size: 545,893,296 bytes (520.60 Mb)
[11/8/2003 7:45:20 PM] Running compressibility test.
[11/8/2003 7:45:20 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\XviD_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\XviD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[11/8/2003 8:03:10 PM] Duration was: 17 minutes 49 seconds
[11/8/2003 8:03:10 PM] Speed was: 12.76 fps.
[11/8/2003 8:03:11 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 24.52
[11/8/2003 8:03:11 PM] Chosen resolution is: 608x272 ( AR: 2.24 )
[11/8/2003 8:03:11 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 27.32
[11/8/2003 8:03:11 PM] Running first pass.
[11/8/2003 8:03:11 PM] Writing the following script to C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\XviD_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\titan\agk_tmp\XviD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[11/8/2003 11:01:14 PM] Duration was: 2 hours 58 minutes 2 seconds
[11/8/2003 11:01:15 PM] Speed was: 25.54 fps.
[11/8/2003 11:01:16 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 27.25
[11/8/2003 11:01:16 PM] Running second pass.
[11/9/2003 2:38:38 AM] Duration was: 3 hours 37 minutes 20 seconds
[11/9/2003 2:38:38 AM] Speed was: 20.92 fps.
[11/9/2003 2:38:38 AM] Job finished.

[quake74]

Well, looking at alwayscamp posts, I bet it's the same bug. I dowloaded divx and will try as soon as this encode finishes. For the rest of my encodes, using maximum width made autogk choose appropriate resolutions
(max width 512 it chose 400 with compressibility 73.63, max width 448 it chose 448 with compressibility 74.51) while, using auto width or min width 400, autogk always chose 608 with low compressibilities (40.21, 31.81, 34.94, 31.80).

[BigDid]

Originally posted by BigDid

Here is a summary of the results:


This one got through, see attachment.

Also the snapshots from DRFAnalyser (hope I have'nt mess up the order :rolleyes: ) here :http://img83.exs.cx/img83/4153/Complet2.th.png (http://img83.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img83&image=Complet2.png)

Did

[Taurus]

Originally posted by BigDid
Hope this one will get through

You can host your pictures at Imageshack (http://www.imageshack.us/)
It's no big hazzle to display them right here at the forum;)

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

I found it and fixed, but still checking some other bits for other possible bugs :)

[daberti]

Originally posted by len0x
I found it and fixed, but still checking some other bits for other possible bugs :)

Just one question though: the bug you're talking about affect only 1.7x tree or also 1.60?

[len0x]

@daberti

1.7x mainly. There were some bits wrong in 1.60 as well but they rarely come up (or you don't notice them because you don't check the quality logs after encoding: there might have been large difference between predicted and expected quality).

[quake74]

Thanks len0x, waiting for the new version for some more testing ;)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Taurus
You can host your pictures at Imageshack (http://www.imageshack.us/) ..
Taurus

Thanks Taurus, I've done that, very good tip.

All the best

Did

[daberti]

Originally posted by len0x
@daberti

1.7x mainly. There were some bits wrong in 1.60 as well but they rarely come up (or you don't notice them because you don't check the quality logs after encoding: there might have been large difference between predicted and expected quality).

@lenOx
I encoded Drugstore Cowboy either with Divx and with Xvid (AutoGk 1.60).
I noticed relevant differences in comp. and res. between two codecs.

Logs follow:

Dvix log:
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] AutoGK 1.60
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Job started.
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Input dir: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Output file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\Drugstore Cowboy Dvix.avi
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Audio: Italiano
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Subtitles: none
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Codec: DivX
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Target size: 1000Mb
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Started encoding.
[10/11/2004 21.07.02] Demuxing and indexing.
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Source resolution: 720x576
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Found PAL source.
[10/11/2004 21.16.02] Analyzing source.
[10/11/2004 21.24.56] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,02
[10/11/2004 21.24.56] Source is considered to be progressive.
[10/11/2004 21.24.57] Found 145903 frames
[10/11/2004 21.24.57] Encoding audio.
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Audio size: 91,731,128 bytes (87.48 Mb)
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Overhead: 9,413,760 bytes (8.98 Mb)
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Video size: 947,431,112 bytes (903.54 Mb)
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Target bitrate is: 1299kbps
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Running compressibility test.
[10/11/2004 21.41.36] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Dvix_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Dvix.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[10/11/2004 21.48.56] Duration was: 7 minutes 18 seconds
[10/11/2004 21.48.56] Speed was: 16,63 fps.
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Compressibility percentage is: 36,39
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Using softer resizer.
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Chosen resolution is: 528x288 ( AR: 1,83 )
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Predicted comptest value is: 64,69
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Running first pass.
[10/11/2004 21.48.57] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Dvix_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Dvix.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 528
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[10/11/2004 23.10.11] Duration was: 1 hour, 21 minutes 12 seconds
[10/11/2004 23.10.11] Speed was: 29,95 fps.
[10/11/2004 23.10.11] Running second pass.
[11/11/2004 0.26.43] Duration was: 1 hour, 16 minutes 31 seconds
[11/11/2004 0.26.43] Speed was: 31,78 fps.
[11/11/2004 0.26.43] Job finished.
*******************

Xvid log:
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] AutoGK 1.60
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Job started.
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Input dir: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Output file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\Drugstore Cowboy Xvid.avi
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Audio: Italiano
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Subtitles: none
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Codec: XviD
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Target size: 1000Mb
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Started encoding.
[10/11/2004 16.58.40] Demuxing and indexing.
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Source resolution: 720x576
[10/11/2004 17.05.47] Found PAL source.
[10/11/2004 17.05.48] Analyzing source.
[10/11/2004 17.12.32] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,02
[10/11/2004 17.12.32] Source is considered to be progressive.
[10/11/2004 17.12.32] Found 145903 frames
[10/11/2004 17.12.32] Encoding audio.
[10/11/2004 17.28.54] Audio size: 91,731,128 bytes (87.48 Mb)
[10/11/2004 17.28.54] Overhead: 5,836,160 bytes (5.57 Mb)
[10/11/2004 17.28.54] Video size: 951,008,712 bytes (906.95 Mb)
[10/11/2004 17.28.54] Running compressibility test.
[10/11/2004 17.28.54] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Xvid_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Xvid.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[10/11/2004 17.37.32] Duration was: 8 minutes 37 seconds
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Speed was: 14,09 fps.
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Compressibility percentage is: 40,74
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Using softer matrix.
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Chosen resolution is: 608x336 ( AR: 1,81 )
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Predicted comptest value is: 59,77
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Running first pass.
[10/11/2004 17.37.33] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Xvid_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\agk_tmp\Drugstore Cowboy Xvid.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[10/11/2004 19.04.49] Duration was: 1 hour, 27 minutes 14 seconds
[10/11/2004 19.04.49] Speed was: 27,87 fps.
[10/11/2004 19.04.49] Expected quality of first pass size: 57,42
[10/11/2004 19.04.49] Running second pass.
[10/11/2004 20.59.24] Duration was: 1 hour, 54 minutes 34 seconds
[10/11/2004 20.59.24] Speed was: 21,22 fps.
[10/11/2004 20.59.24] Job finished.

**************************
2nd pass in Xvid takes an age compared to Dvix's one.

Is it all going as it should?

BTW: great SW lenOx we'll never thankyou enough

[len0x]

Originally posted by daberti

Is it all going as it should?


I see nothing wrong with the logs.

[daberti]

Originally posted by len0x
I see nothing wrong with the logs.

Thanks lenOx

[Taurus]

@ len0x

...In the meantime

Thank you for your constantly search for bugs.
I really endore your versatile approach to perfection.
Sorry I can't come up with bugs.., the encodes I'm doing are normally
in a higher quality range (above 704:xxx).
I never encountered any problems there so far. Even if I crosschecked with
"normal" GK on Compressibility check, there were almost identical results in both.

So keep up the good work.

(Mpeg4 is not dead) as someone in another thread mentioned. ;)

Cheers

Taurus

P.S.: If you need further help in matrix comparision, let me know.

[daberti]

Originally posted by daberti
Thanks lenOx

@lenOX
I'm encoding always with 1.60 yet giving a max width of 608 (same remaining setting as in above posted log).
Results seem to be quite different from Xvid log posted above even if having BTW the same width.
I.e: the auto-width chooses 608/336 and brings about Compressibility percentage 46,13 while Predicted comptest value is 61.04 (Expected quality of first pass size: 65.01) .
The Max Width = 608 chooses 608/336 and brings about Compressibility percentage 59.79 while Predicted comptest value 66,28 .
First pass is just running....

The delta between the two approaches is too wide and I suspect we're running into the same resizing bug as the 1.7x tree.

Thus I'm thinking about switching to 1.7x (clean 1.60 uninstall required BTW?)

Edit:
1.76 now:
with max width at 624 these are the results
[12/11/2004 16.56.51] Compressibility percentage is: 60,33
[12/11/2004 16.56.51] Using softer matrix.
[12/11/2004 16.56.51] Chosen resolution is: 608x352 ( AR: 1,73 )
[12/11/2004 16.56.51] Predicted comptest value is: 68,95

Edit 2:
12/11/2004 17.23.33] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 544 pixels
[12/11/2004 17.23.33] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[12/11/2004 17.23.33] Started encoding.
[12/11/2004 17.23.33] Demuxing and indexing.
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Processing file: C:\DVD\Drugstore Cowboy\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Source resolution: 720x576
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Found PAL source.
[12/11/2004 17.30.14] Analyzing source.
[12/11/2004 17.37.00] Source is considered to be progressive.
[12/11/2004 17.37.01] Found 145903 frames
[12/11/2004 17.37.01] Encoding audio.
[12/11/2004 17.52.28] Audio size: 91,731,128 bytes (87.48 Mb)
[12/11/2004 17.52.28] Overhead: 5,836,160 bytes (5.57 Mb)
[12/11/2004 17.52.28] Video size: 1,076,837,832 bytes (1026.95 Mb)
[12/11/2004 17.52.28] Running compressibility test.
[12/11/2004 18.00.25] Duration was: 7 minutes 56 seconds
[12/11/2004 18.00.26] Speed was: 15,31 fps.
[12/11/2004 18.00.27] Compressibility percentage is: 49,91
[12/11/2004 18.00.27] Using softer matrix.
[12/11/2004 18.00.27] Chosen resolution is: 624x336 ( AR: 1,86 )
[12/11/2004 18.00.27] Predicted comptest value is: 71,66
[12/11/2004 18.00.27] Running first pass.
[12/11/2004 19.28.09] Duration was: 1 hour, 27 minutes 41 seconds
[12/11/2004 19.28.09] Speed was: 27,73 fps.
[12/11/2004 19.28.10] Expected quality of first pass size: 66,70
[12/11/2004 19.28.10] Running second pass.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by Taurus
P.S.: If you need further help in matrix comparision, let me know.
A new matrix is coming... so maybe... :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by daberti
The delta between the two approaches is too wide and I suspect we're running into the same resizing bug as the 1.7x tree.


Well, a lot was changed in resizing after 1.60, so I can't say if that's the case, but 1.76 has definitely less problems in that area.
And you logs from 1.76 seem OK to, don't they?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
Thank you for your constantly search for bugs.
I really endore your versatile approach to perfection.


I'm glad some ppl still can see that :) Its more of a science really...
These days I seem to get more attention as probable violator of GPL and promoter of dead mpeg4 :)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by BigDid

Any power-user, senior or master feel free to detail the results as I don't feel qualified to do so.


Should I rephrase that in
I would appreciate any feedback from anybody with better knowledge than me on the High bitrates, spikes, VBV buffer sujects...?

Because I have still that stall problem on the 2 encodes with 2Gb size (LOTR2 & LOTR3)
Without feedback or directions I am trying to reencode LOTR3 with the different options with no luck at the moment ( near 6 hours each time :mad: )

Thanks in advance

Did

[daberti]

Originally posted by len0x
Well, a lot was changed in resizing after 1.60, so I can't say if that's the case, but 1.76 has definitely less problems in that area.
And you logs from 1.76 seem OK to, don't they?

1.76 works really NICE.
Just a question though: IYO what codec is the best with 1.76?
Xvid or Divx? The only thing I noticed is a quantum leap in speed on Divx side.

[kio]

Hello,

Big congrats for your software. I'm blind and thanks to you for helping me to release my divx movies :)

However, since you released 1.76B version, i try to download it but without success ! :(

I got "module is not actif" or some thing like that... do U know why ?

best regards,
and congratulations for your really nice job ! :d

[len0x]

Originally posted by kio
I got "module is not actif" or some thing like that... do U know why ?

Your browser doesn't have third-party cookies enabled. This hasn't been changed since new AutoGK website was up, so something must have happened to your browser.

[len0x]

Originally posted by daberti
Just a question though: IYO what codec is the best with 1.76?
Xvid or Divx?

Its all up to your taste really. I used to do only DivX (before I even started AutoGK project). But then switched to XviD and happy with it. AutoGK has more control over XviD because of quantizer settings and custom matrixes (that really do make a difference). If you go to the survey section on the website you can see what codec ppl are using with AutoGK.

[kio]

sorry, it doesn't work even i empty my cookies. i tried from another computer, nothing happend :'(

_http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=8

help plz i need the upgrade

[daberti]

@ lenOx
I realized that XVID really saves space at same quality level.
Custom matrices: you are talking about the one shipped with 1.76 or something else?

[daberti]

Originally posted by kio
sorry, it doesn't work even i empty my cookies. i tried from another computer, nothing happend :'(

_http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=8

help plz i need the upgrade

Are you behind a firewall? ;)
Are you sure that under Privacy setting of your browser you allow all cookies from url above to be stored? ;)

[Sharktooth]

@len0x: beta5
8 9 10 12 12 15 16 20
9 10 11 12 15 16 20 21
10 11 13 15 16 20 21 27
11 13 14 17 19 22 26 28
13 14 17 19 22 26 29 38
14 17 19 23 25 30 36 40
18 18 23 25 31 34 43 62
18 24 24 32 34 46 52 80

16 16 17 19 19 20 21 23
16 17 18 19 20 21 23 24
17 18 19 20 21 23 24 30
18 19 20 21 23 24 29 31
19 20 21 23 25 28 32 48
20 21 22 25 27 34 45 53
22 22 25 27 36 42 58 84
22 26 26 38 40 63 72 106

http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/len0x/eqm_AGKHR_b5.xcm

[len0x]

DTS support is there, plz test it

[Sharktooth]

@Len0x/Taurus: please test beta5. It should keep the same details as V2 but with a bit more compressibility (at least with the sources i tested...) and softer scaling (coefficients follows the scan order) to avoid artifacts and excessive sharpness on CG material.

[therealjoeblow]

I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of IVTC, that's why I use AutoGK ;-)

However, I tried to encode:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077572/

...several times with different versions of AutoGK from 1.25 to 1.5x to 1.60 to 1.7x, and in all cases, Decomb with Telecide/Decimate was chosen by AutoGK to IVTC the movie. This is an older film, with a *very* grainy source, and in all cases (regardless of version or codec used for compression), there were *nasty* decombing artifacts at various points in the movie - best described as 'shimmering or dancing vertical blinds'. (That's why I used so many different versions - I thought maybe one of them would perform the IVTC better since there have been various versions of DGIndex and predecessors, and Decomb used over time; but there was never any noticeable difference).

I assume that DGIndex didn't apply the Force Film algorithm probably because the movie didn't analyze at 100% film, that's why AutoGK took over with Decomb (inner workings obviously not clearly understood). It's been a *major* source of frustration that I couldn't get a decent encode of this after trying repeatedly for several months. So last night on a whim, I used the "Restore/Stop DGIndex and Overwrite .d2v File" trick to enable the "Force Film" algorithm in DGIndex, and the resulting encode is beautiful, none of the artifacts remain, not even in the scenes where it was the worst in the original attempts, where it was almost unwatchable. And there don't appear to be any other problems introduced, encode plays back nice and smooth throughout, no interlacing remains at scene transitions, etc.

So, maybe this is just one of those odd-ball cases where the default analysis algorithm can't work 100% perfectly? I don't know how many situations there may be that fit this pattern, but clearly here the Force Film setting worked way better than Decomb could.

Questions:

1) in cases where such artifacting *doesn't* occur, is there any visual difference between Force Film and Decomb IVTC? IE, does one generally produce a better looking final product than the other on normal material (I've never done any direct comparisons other than this one where the difference was astounding), and

2) would it be possible to get a Hidden Option to enable Force Film in DGIndex to override whatever the analysis decides (or maybe a toggle to use one or the other, so you clearly know which method is going to be used by force)?

Many Thanks,

(PS - donation we spoke about is still coming this week - last 2 weeks have been too hectic to get to the Post Office).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
@Len0x/Taurus: please test beta5.

Did some short tests on material as discussed before (mostly CG).
I must say this one looks very promising (Beta5). No harshness or artificial sharpening. Smooth as V2 with the benefit of even better
compressibility. Good job.
I will do some more testing on "real life" sources the next days.
Changing resolutions too. Mostly I test on Q=2 720x***.
It will be interesting to see interaction on different resolutions.
Will ring the bell later :D

Oh, thanks len0x for DTS support. Will test it on some Music DVD I own.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
@Len0x/Taurus: please test beta5.

well, it doesn't look too good from my side :) More block and less details on my my testing material (I'll do more tests anyway), although indeed higher compressibility. I like beta4 much better. May be its true that we need two matrixes for notmal and CG material (i.e. cartoon mode of XviD can be complimented with beta5 and the rest with another matrix).

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
So, maybe this is just one of those odd-ball cases where the default analysis algorithm can't work 100% perfectly? I don't know how many situations there may be that fit this pattern, but clearly here the Force Film setting worked way better than Decomb could.


I'd like to see: a) logs from normal encode, b) d2v file

I do not see any particular reasons for decomb behave badly unless its processing hybrid material. It's supposed to a) produce progressive material and b) remove duplicates. I don't think second step can be at fault, because it would introduce shuttering rather then artifacts. But I'm not sure how decomb actually does first step. may be having out of pattern frames confuse it (when its picks wrong frames during 3:2 pull down). May be manono may have some ideas about that.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
I'd like to see: a) logs from normal encode, b) d2v file

I do not see any particular reasons for decomb behave badly unless its processing hybrid material. It's supposed to a) produce progressive material and b) remove duplicates. I don't think second step can be at fault, because it would introduce shuttering rather then artifacts. But I'm not sure how decomb actually does first step. may be having out of pattern frames confuse it (when its picks wrong frames during 3:2 pull down). May be manono may have some ideas about that.

SHUTTERING! That's a better term to describe what I saw, rather than 'artifacts'. It looked as if someone was repeatedly pulling the drawstring on the vertical blinds from open to closed position at high frequency.

I'll re-run the encode tonight with default settings and post the 2 logs and 2 d2v's for comparison. I could also clip out a portion of the encoded video of each if that helps understand the effect better?

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS support is there, plz test it

I'm tried to rip a DVD with DTS audio -> 2 CD XviD/mp3 cbr. But I got an


*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio is not found.
*************************************


I did everything like I use to, ripping with DVD Decrypter etc.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS support is there, plz test it

Maybe you should mention that ffdshow (audio) also decodes DTS quite well.
It uses libdts and about the same cpu resources as ac3filter.
So something to add for the FAQs and/or the Help files.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
I'm tried to rip a DVD with DTS audio -> 2 CD XviD/mp3 cbr. But I got an


please post stream info file

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
Maybe you should mention that ffdshow (audio) also decodes DTS quite well.


see, i didn't know know that as I don't use ffdshow (in fact I don't use latest ac3filter either because its not working with powerdvd...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
I'll re-run the encode tonight with default settings and post the 2 logs and 2 d2v's for comparison. I could also clip out a portion of the encoded video of each if that helps understand the effect better?

Well, d2v file says 98.7% film and threshold in autogk to make it FF is 99%, so it just missed the cut :) I can see that only ending of the movie has NTSC source, so if you look at it with FF option on, then you should see pretty heavy shuttering, but if that's credits then it probably won't bother you. I can reduce threshold to say 98.5%, so that your source would get FF automatically (have you seen any other moview like this?).

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
please post stream info file


0x20 - Subtitle - Chinese - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9915 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Chinese - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9917 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x22 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9918 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x89 - Audio - DTS / 5ch / 48kHz / DRC / Japanese / LBA: 41 / PTS: 00:00:00.233 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.233 / Delay: 0ms

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel

0x20 - Subtitle - Chinese - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9915 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Chinese - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9917 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x22 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9918 / PTS: 00:00:31.498 / Delay: 31264ms
0x89 - Audio - DTS / 5ch / 48kHz / DRC / Japanese / LBA: 41 / PTS: 00:00:00.233 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.233 / Delay: 0ms


Hm... does DTS file get demuxed in agk_tmp dir and if yes then what is the name of the file ?

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS support is there, plz test it

DTS -> MP3 vbr = OK
DTS -> MP3 cbr = OK
DTS -> AC3 = NO Dts file just got muxed to video.(Expected)

For all SAP Users who can't decode DTS it would be a nice feature to have the 5.1 or 6.1 DTS Stream converted to AC3.
I know it's more work to do. Did this several times with BeSweet and if I remember correctly from the past it was a mess to setup ;) :D

Cheers

Taurus

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
Hm... does DTS file get demuxed in agk_tmp dir and if yes then what is the name of the file ?

Files and directories in K:\DVD images\DARK_WATER\agk_tmp


Dark_Water.d2v
interlace.log
lastjob.vcf
_.avi
_.avs
_test.avi
_test.avs


0 directories, 7 files.

That's a no, right?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
For all SAP Users who can't decode DTS it would be a nice feature to have the 5.1 or 6.1 DTS Stream converted to AC3.


That's impossible as I'm not able to use AC3 transcoding functionality of besweet (and never wanted to).

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
That's a no, right?

Yes, demuxing didn't work. I'm gonna be needing a sample of those VOBs. Would it be possible to rip one chapter/cel and make it available for me do download?

P.S. When you open vobs with DGIndex manually and select demux just first track and then save project - will it create audio file or not?

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
That's impossible as I'm not able to use AC3 transcoding functionality of besweet (and never wanted to).

Har, har, this was more a kind of subtile joke from my side.
I remember what a mess it was to get this dam.. thing to work.
Very time consuming.
I really accept your decision.

But to be more constructive: Over night I will do quite a few matrice
comparisions.
I will report tomorrow.

Cheers

Taurus

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Well, d2v file says 98.7% film and threshold in autogk to make it FF is 99%, so it just missed the cut :) I can see that only ending of the movie has NTSC source, so if you look at it with FF option on, then you should see pretty heavy shuttering, but if that's credits then it probably won't bother you. I can reduce threshold to say 98.5%, so that your source would get FF automatically (have you seen any other moview like this?).

On that one, right after the last of the credits fades out, the final ~2 minutes of the video consist of an oval MGM logo that 'spins' into the screen (looks like CGI), along with a static shot of the menu background, and the FBI warning at the end. This is the only one that I've run across like that so far. I just trimmed off that bit anyways when remuxing the final to .MKV, so no big deal.

Is the FF threshold configurable with a hidden option? (I don't remember). It would probably be best if it was, since 99% is probablly the correct cutoff for general users.

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow

Is the FF threshold configurable with a hidden option? (I don't remember).

No, but unless there are more examples of such movies - the simplest thing would be to trim it using DGIndex (the usual trick) during demuxing step and AutoGK should proceed as usual.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
I really accept your decision.


Its more of an agreement with DSPGuru really.

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
Yes, demuxing didn't work. I'm gonna be needing a sample of those VOBs. Would it be possible to rip one chapter/cel and make it available for me do download?

I can rip it but I'll have to upload as I'm not reachable form the 'outside' due to some weird-ass NAT setup at my ISP. I'll pm my emailaddress to you, so we can figure something out.


P.S. When you open vobs with DGIndex manually and select demux just first track and then save project - will it create audio file or not?

Or not. But if I selected Demux All Tracks it created a 130kb DTS file.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
Or not. But if I selected Demux All Tracks it created a 130kb DTS file.

130Kb?
What is the name of the DTS file?

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
130Kb?
What is the name of the DTS file?

No, silly me. 130 mb. The name is "test DTS T02 DELAY 0ms.dts"

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
The name is "test DTS T02 DELAY 0ms.dts"

This beats me - its track number 2! there is no way of automatically detect that from stream info file :) But you can use hidden_option number 11 (.audio_id) and use File mode instead of DVD mode(hidden file should contain "81" in it).

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS support is there, plz test it

Hi Len0x,

New to Ac3 & DTS, just tried this new features on Tina Concert in Wembley; needed 1860mb to get video at more than 512 width(AR 1.78); all encodes went ok, here are the audio infos:
-ac3 2ch Agk 1.76 - 166.52mb
-ac3 5ch downmixed 2ch by AGK 1.76 (or the ac3 2ch used?) - 166.52mb
-ac3 5ch agk 1.78 - 388.57mb
-dts 2ch agk 1.78 - 654.41mb

Now another one with a question; still with my LOTR2&3 problems, tried a 1/2DVD with LOTR3 and ac3 6ch, aborted the encode after seeing the audio size more than 600mb ... the movie has no ac3 2ch tracks (PAL French).
Do I have to go back to 1.76 to get the ac3 2ch downmix (if it works like that) or can you implement a downmix option ac3 5 or 6ch --> 2ch ?

Just asking, thanks.

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Do I have to go back to 1.76 to get the ac3 2ch downmix (if it works like that) or can you implement a downmix option ac3 5 or 6ch --> 2ch ?


AutoGK was never able downmix (i.e. transcode) 6 channel AC3 into 2 channel AC3 (see few posts above why).

[daberti]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS support is there, plz test it

By tomorrow I'll be able to post coding results of Windtalkers.

Edit:
Stream Info:

0x20 - Subtitle - Italiano / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 01: Wide] / LBA: 98482 / PTS: 00:04:24.060 / Delay: 264000ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Italiano / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 01: Letterbox] / LBA: 98481 / PTS: 00:04:24.060 / Delay: 264000ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Italiano / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 02: Wide] / LBA: 58035 / PTS: 00:02:41.660 / Delay: 161600ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Italiano / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 02: Letterbox] / LBA: 58026 / PTS: 00:02:41.660 / Delay: 161600ms
0x24 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 03: Wide] / LBA: 96006 / PTS: 00:04:17.060 / Delay: 257000ms
0x25 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 03: Letterbox] / LBA: 95998 / PTS: 00:04:17.060 / Delay: 257000ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Italiano / LBA: 5 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 4 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0x8A - Audio - DTS / 5ch / 48kHz / DRC / Italiano / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms


AGK log:

[18/11/2004 9.43.54] AutoGK 1.79b
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Job started.
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Input dir: C:\DVD\Windtalkers
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Output file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\Windtalkers.avi
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Audio: Italiano
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Subtitles: none
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Codec: XviD
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Target quality: 65%
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Custom audio settings: AC3
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Started encoding.
[18/11/2004 9.43.54] Demuxing and indexing.
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Processing file: C:\DVD\Windtalkers\VTS_01_PGC_01_7.VOB
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Source resolution: 720x576
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Found PAL source.
[18/11/2004 9.52.32] Analyzing source.
[18/11/2004 9.59.37] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,01
[18/11/2004 9.59.37] Source is considered to be progressive.
[18/11/2004 9.59.37] Found 193466 frames
[18/11/2004 9.59.37] Running single pass encoding.
[18/11/2004 9.59.37] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Windtalkers\agk_tmp\Windtalkers_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Windtalkers\agk_tmp\Windtalkers.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[18/11/2004 12.32.43] Duration was: 2 hours 33 minutes 2 seconds
[18/11/2004 12.32.43] Speed was: 21,07 fps.
[18/11/2004 12.32.43] Job finished.


All seems ok, but also under 1.78b it was so.

[mightyspawn]

Uhmm, in 1.60 (stable) i could select to rip "all subtitles"

But that isn't possible anymore in 1.75beta, can that function please come back again?

Thanks alot

[len0x]

Originally posted by mightyspawn
Uhmm, in 1.60 (stable) i could select to rip "all subtitles"

But that isn't possible anymore in 1.75beta, can that function please come back again?


its still there (_nothing_ changed in subs handling) you have to have external subs selected though...

[Outerspacelord]

I try to do an old swedish movie called "En Kärleks Historia" which was the first swedish movie in stereo :)

Problem is as follows ...

In AutoGK under audio track I see in this order:
AC3 2ch
Director's Comments AC3 2ch
DTS 5ch

If I choose the DTS 5ch I get the Director's Comments track.

Anyhow when trying all track one by one what then happens is:
AC3 2ch -> AC3 2ch
Director's Comments AC3 2ch -> Director's Comments AC3 2ch
DTS 5ch -> Director's Comments AC3 2ch
No Audio Track -> AC3 2ch (hehe it is true)

So I never is able to get the DTS with AutoGK v1.78
The DTS should be track 2. I confirmed by opening the VOBs in DGIndex.

[therealjoeblow]

I think there's another resizing bug... I set the following encode to MINIMUM width of 640, and after the first pass, the resulting quality was 68%, then first pass got rerun with width of 512?? Shouldn't the encode just have proceeded with the specified width of 640?


[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] AutoGK 1.76b
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] OS: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Job started.
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Input dir: N:\SAVING_PRIVATE_RYAN\movie\VIDEO_TS
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Output file: L:\_Encodes\SPR\SPR.avi
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Audio: English
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Subtitles: English : Wide/Letterbox
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Codec: XviD
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Target size: 2238Mb
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 640 pixels
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Started encoding.
[11/16/2004 8:13:33 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Processing file: N:\SAVING_PRIVATE_RYAN\movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Processing file: N:\SAVING_PRIVATE_RYAN\movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Processing file: N:\SAVING_PRIVATE_RYAN\movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Processing file: N:\SAVING_PRIVATE_RYAN\movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Found NTSC source.
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Found 243771 frames
[11/16/2004 8:21:44 AM] Indexing subtitles.
[11/16/2004 8:29:45 AM] Compressing subtitles.
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Forcing encoding with sharp matrix.
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Audio size: 569,359,616 bytes (542.98 Mb)
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Overhead: 1,694,592 bytes (1.62 Mb)
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Subtitles size: 1,366,472 bytes (1.30 Mb)
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Video size: 1,774,292,408 bytes (1692.10 Mb)
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Running compressibility test.
[11/16/2004 8:29:56 AM] Writing the following script to L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[11/16/2004 8:43:41 AM] Duration was: 13 minutes 45 seconds
[11/16/2004 8:43:41 AM] Speed was: 14.77 fps.
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 29.53
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Using softer resizer.
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x368 ( AR: 1.74 )
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 36.94
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Running first pass.
[11/16/2004 8:43:42 AM] Writing the following script to L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Duration was: 8 hours 40 minutes 1 second.
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Speed was: 7.81 fps.
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 68.37
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Trying to adjust settings.
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Chosen resolution is: 512x288 ( AR: 1.78 )
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 55.91
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Re-running first pass.
[11/16/2004 5:23:44 PM] Writing the following script to L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("L:\_Encodes\SPR\agk_tmp\SPR.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================

*************************************
EXCEPTION: Job aborted
*************************************
[11/16/2004 5:25:21 PM] Job finished.

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
I think there's another resizing bug... I set the following encode to MINIMUM width of 640, and after the first pass, the resulting quality was 68%, then first pass got rerun with width of 512?? Shouldn't the encode just have proceeded with the specified width of 640?


yes, it should. I found the bug.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Outerspacelord
So I never is able to get the DTS with AutoGK v1.78
The DTS should be track 2. I confirmed by opening the VOBs in DGIndex.

Stream Info File! C'mon guys - when reporting DTS related problems always post stream info file, otherwise other info you're providing is useless.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
The name is "test DTS T02 DELAY 0ms.dts"

OK, I found solution after reading some specs about DTS streams. Stay tuned.

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by len0x
Stream Info File! C'mon guys - when reporting DTS related problems always post stream info file, otherwise other info you're providing is useless.

Sorry about that len0x ... (I edit this post later if u need some logs too)

0x20 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 01: Wide] / LBA: 41504 / PTS: 00:01:46.700 / Delay: 106640ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 01: Letterbox] / LBA: 41502 / PTS: 00:01:46.700 / Delay: 106640ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 02: Wide] / LBA: 64840 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 02: Letterbox] / LBA: 64795 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 03: Wide] / LBA: 65378 / PTS: 00:02:36.860 / Delay: 156800ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 03: Letterbox] / LBA: 65375 / PTS: 00:02:36.860 / Delay: 156800ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 04: Wide] / LBA: 64794 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 04: Letterbox] / LBA: 64790 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x28 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 05: Wide] / LBA: 64847 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x29 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 05: Letterbox] / LBA: 64843 / PTS: 00:02:35.860 / Delay: 155800ms
0x2A - Subtitle - Svenska / Children's Captions - [SubPicture 06: Wide] / LBA: 2743 / PTS: 00:00:11.340 / Delay: 11280ms
0x2B - Subtitle - Svenska / Children's Captions - [SubPicture 06: Letterbox] / LBA: 2740 / PTS: 00:00:11.340 / Delay: 11280ms
0x2C - Subtitle - English / Children's Captions - [SubPicture 07: Wide] / LBA: 2737 / PTS: 00:00:11.340 / Delay: 11280ms
0x2D - Subtitle - English / Children's Captions - [SubPicture 07: Letterbox] / LBA: 2733 / PTS: 00:00:11.340 / Delay: 11280ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Svenska / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Svenska - Director's Comments / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0x89 - Audio - DTS / 5ch / 48kHz / DRC / Svenska / LBA: 7 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms

[len0x]

DTS issues should be fixed.

@Outerspacelord

About "No Audio" option - that could not have happened. Are you able to reproduce that?

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by len0x
@Outerspacelord

About "No Audio" option - that could not have happened. Are you able to reproduce that?

No I can't ... cause it was so early morning that I forgot to delete the agk_tmp directory first, so of course there was a audio file there. So u are right as usual. I will now test v1.79.

Edit: Running and is ok. DGIndex spits out the DTS right now. Thank you :)

BTW can u look at my post in the thread "err: cannot find interlace.log" ? Is it just troublsome a telestream or somthing with NTSC interlaced/progressive? But, yes the bug seems to be in avisynth and not AutoGK.

[Sharktooth]

@len0x: just a question. have you ever thought about using mencoder instead of all the tools (dvd2avi, virtualdubmod, etc.) you're using with autogk?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
@len0x: just a question. have you ever thought about using mencoder instead of all the tools (dvd2avi, virtualdubmod, etc.) you're using with autogk?

No, I didn't. In fact I know nothing about mencoder and would not probably want to learn anyway :)

[mightyspawn]

Originally posted by len0x
its still there (_nothing_ changed in subs handling) you have to have external subs selected though...

Ah ok, you first have to select external subtitles, and then load the DVD RIP files. Very confusing (at least for me :P ). Can there be made some kind of note in the prog?

Well thanks anyway for the great Application, i just love it.

[Sharktooth]

@lenox: Well... it's a command line encoder that supports various codecs (including libavcodec, ffmpeg and many others) and has nice features like filters (crop, resize, deinterlace etc), ability to import various formats (including avi, mpeg, dvd...), subtitles etc...
BTW, more informations here: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/mencoder.html
Example of dvd encoding to mpeg4: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-dvd-mpeg4.html#menc-feat-dvd-mpeg4-example

[len0x]

does it support frameserving?

[Sharktooth]

If you mean you can feed .avs files to mencoder then, yes, but why?
More info here: http://kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9078 (registration needed)

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
@Len0x/Taurus: please test beta5.

Everybody who has ever done comparisions of matrices knows this:
The longer you look into it, the harder it gets.
You have to decide if it's for a more universal approach or a specific task.
In this case we are heading for a higher bitrate matrice.
Quant=2 is not always the goal for "ordinary" backups.
So this time I choosed arbitrarily a fixed kbs rate of 2000 for my tests.
Sure, depending on the sources there was quite noticable differences in quality in the end.
Test clips: Matrix 1 = Lobby scene, Matrix Reloaded = Highway, a hord of Mr.Smith(action), the oracle(walls grain),
gladiator (fight scenes)
and as usual some CGs.
The winner is V2 followed by Beta4. Beta5 compresses real well, but the overall impression did not match the others.
It's more a psycho-visual decision from my side, don't nail me by numbers.
Sorry, in my former post, I gave a vote for beta5.
This time its the other way around.

There is a BIG matrice comparison in another thread heading for 1600kbs, started from a guy called Soulhunter :D ;) this should be taken into consideration. 1600kbs is something mainstream nowadays,
so we have to watch who will be the winner. Future plans are for a 2200kbs round. This will fit exactly into the frame = higher resolution = higher bitrate.

My eyes are tired, everywhere are blocks and distortions, walls are moving, grain is pulsating :o ;).

Time to leave the machine.

Cheers

Taurus

[ma2trigk]

Hi len0x !

First of all, thanks a lot for the great job you're doing. I'm using AutoGK with much pleasure.
You're working a lot on the videos improvements, but is something planned on the audio part ?

What about using other audio codecs, like AAC or MPC/Flac ?
And what about implementing a good 5.1 codec ?
I dont't know one, but I'm sure that they must be one good 6 channels audio codec

[BigDid]

Originally posted by ma2trigk
Hi len0x !

...but is something planned on the audio part ?
...And what about implementing a good 5.1 codec ? ...

Hi ma2trigk (salut)

I cannot answer on len0x projects but concerning the audio part it seems the actuals AGK betas are going in that direction; see
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266 infos regarding the 1.78 & 1.79 rev: DTS +PCM

Depending on the source you can now choose audio between
in:
PCM, AC3 xch, DTS xch
and out:
MP3-CBR/VBR, AC3 or DTS;
see my last post here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=570634#post570634

Have a good day (bien le bonjour)

Did

/Edit - PS: I forgot the possibility of two audio streams since ... quite a long time see AGK FAQ 2.1 & 2.4 here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72679 /

[rotvel]

Originally posted by len0x
DTS issues should be fixed.

It did fix the problem I had. Thanks a lot.

Btw: This was a DVD where some over-enthusiastic ripper had removed the AC3 track. I just thought that might explain the "DTS as track 2" problem.

[bourtzovlakas]

Hi len0x,
As it is right now,when target quality is used,quality percentage and resolution are constant and the final size is a variable.
Is it possible,to choose the quality percentage and final size to be constant and the resolution to be a variable?
Example:A half-DVD rip with maximum quality at the largest possible resolution...

[mightyspawn]

Will there be in the near future support for ogg sound?

I hope so.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mightyspawn
Will there be in the near future support for ogg sound?


probably not.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
Btw: This was a DVD where some over-enthusiastic ripper had removed the AC3 track. I just thought that might explain the "DTS as track 2" problem.

No, I just should have read DVD specs better :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by bourtzovlakas
Is it possible,to choose the quality percentage and final size to be constant and the resolution to be a variable?
Example:A half-DVD rip with maximum quality at the largest possible resolution...

All we need for this to work is a target quality percentage (i.e. now around 70%) to be adjustable. May be later I'll add this into hidden option/config file.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
If you mean you can feed .avs files to mencoder then, yes, but why?


I've spent enourmous amount of time tuning AVS scripting for AutoGK. It will never use anything else (and actualy some of the DGIndex/VDubMod features are irreplaceable as well, because they were designed for me on request(well, almost)).

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by Taurus
Test clips: Matrix 1 = Lobby scene, Matrix Reloaded = Highway, a hord of Mr.Smith(action), the oracle(walls grain),
gladiator (fight scenes)
and as usual some CGs.
The winner is V2 followed by Beta4. Beta5 compresses real well, but the overall impression did not match the others.
It's more a psycho-visual decision from my side, don't nail me by numbers.
Sorry, in my former post, I gave a vote for beta5.
This time its the other way around.
Well, i'm more interested in knowing if beta5 performed better than V2 in CG movies. In wich of the clips V2 was better than beta5 and vice versa.

Originally posted by Taurus
There is a BIG matrice comparison in another thread heading for 1600kbs, started from a guy called Soulhunter :D ;) this should be taken into consideration. 1600kbs is something mainstream nowadays,
so we have to watch who will be the winner. Future plans are for a 2200kbs round. This will fit exactly into the frame = higher resolution = higher bitrate.
I know about the comparison but here i'm trying to create a CQM exclusively for AutoGK (keeping in mind compressibility,codec settings and avs filters) but seems that EQM V2 is already unbeatable... :D

@Len0x: I've just updated EQM V3ULR (the low bitrate one). If you have some spare time to test it i will be more than happy.

[mightyspawn]

Originally posted by len0x
probably not.

:( :)

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Well, i'm more interested in knowing if beta5 performed better than V2 in CG movies. In wich of the clips V2 was better than beta5 and vice versa.

I just summed up the results for all clips, CG and ordinary movies.

On CG's I even like V2 much more compared to Beta 5. As Beta 4 ads some harshness, Beta5 washed out. So V2 is something in the middle.
And I like it like that.
Something more to note from my side. Even I have not encoded at Q=2
this time (remember 2000kbs was used), no blocking or ringing was noticed on all matrices. And thats something worth mentioning.

Matrices are miracles. They make all the difference from a crappy to a superb looking encode (except maybe some switches in XVID).
But this is out of scope for AutoGk coz for SAP Compliance.

So, stay tuned, and get on with your fine work.

Will give updated EQM V3ULR a try in the meantime. Resolution about 500-x*** 800kbs. Is this allright for the ultra low resolution matrice?

[Sharktooth]

Ok. So beta5 is too washed out. V2 was made to be a general purpouse high-bitrate matrix and i think it is doing its job quite well... at this point i think i can't produce a better matrix.
Originally posted by Taurus
Will give updated EQM V3ULR a try in the meantime. Resolution about 500-x*** 800kbs. Is this allright for the ultra low resolution matrice?
640-xxx @ 800-900kbps is preferable.
Compare it against Jawor's 1CD and H.263 as starting point.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
640-xxx @ 800-900kbps is preferable.
Compare it against Jawor's 1CD and H.263 as starting point.

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Compare it against Jawor's 1CD.

Here is two screenshots from I-frame encoded with V3ULR and Jawor's(at Q=2 btw. very tough source).
Jawor's:
http://len0x.btothec.com/jawors.png
V3ULR:
http://len0x.btothec.com/v3ulr.png

can you spot what I don't like about V3ULR? :)

[daberti]

@ lenOx:
could you point me to some comparative link of DTS against some other audio codecs?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by mightyspawn
Will there be in the near future support for ogg sound?

I hope so.

I've incorporated 'semi-automatic' ogg support (well, it's mainly manual, but using AutoGK and OAGMachine's features makes it quite a simple supplementary process):

STEP 1) Encode the movie as normal in AutoGK, and, having decided you want to use OGG audo, configure the encode to use MP3 audio at a low bitrate (I usually use 96kbps).

That process automates a couple of things that you need for the second step. Those are:

-It demuxes the AC3 stream for you that you'll need to reencode later to OGG, and
-It 'calculates' your target filesize for the OGG file (when it encodes the mp3 file)

STEP 2) After the encode is done, open up the autogk temporary directory stored with your encoded project. Look at the .MP3 audio file's size - that's what you are going to go for, within a couple of megabytes

STEP 3) Fireup Oagmachine v-0.11 (which is a GUI for BeSweet). Point it to the .AC3 file that was saved in the temp directory as the source. Choose your settings (I disable normalize and enable hybrid gain, leave everything else at default settings). Now, here's the pain-in-the-ass part - you can't encode to a specific bitrate or filesize with OGG. The 'Quality" factor is only a target indicator, and final size depends on complexity of the source material. I usually start out at 0.3 which will usually come *close* to MP3 @ 96 kbps (but not exactly - read further on). Your objective here is to encode so that the OGG file is just about the same file size as the MP3 file was, BUT - since you cannot mux OGG into AVI, you have to account for different muxing overhead as follows:

-if your preferred target container is .MKV, your final encoded audio could be 1 or 2 megabytes LARGER per CD, since MKV has lower muxing overhead and will result in a slightly smaller total filesize

-if your preferred target container is .OGM, your final encoded audio must be ~2 megabytes smaller per CD, since OGM has higher muxing overhead and will result in a slightly larger total filesize

**Now you can see the pain-in-the-ass component in this procedure: you might need to encode the audio 5 or 6 times, changing the Quality setting each time by .01 or .02 step increments till you get the correct final filesize. But, thanks to functionality built into the programs, you can easily automate this multiple encode process using a batch file as follows:

-instead of clicking the "Give Me Ogg" button, COPY the command-line parameters to the clipboard in Oagmachine
-create a new text file on your desktop and open it
-paste in the copied command-line 5 or 6 times
-leave the first line the way it is, and edit the other 4 or 5 to change the "Q" parameter in each one by a few digits, AND THE TARGET FILENAME (if you don't change the filename on each line, each successive encode in this batch file will just overwrite your previous encode and you won't gain anything here!). I just put a 1-, 2-, 3- etc infront of the output filename in each successive line
-save the file, and rename it to ogg.bat or something similar.
-dblclick on the batch file, and go have coffee for 1/2 hour or so while your 5 or 6 ogg files get encoded one after another
-when you come back, look in the temp directory, you should have 5 or 6 completed .OGG files
-decide which one meets your required size criteria as closely as possible (if none, repeat with different Q settings)

STEP 4) Final step - drag your originally encoded .AVI file onto VirtualDubMod (in the AutoGK directory)
-go to the "Streams" menu, disable the .MP3 stream (dblclick it so it gets cross-hatched)
-Add your chosen OGG file in the same menu
-go to the file...save as menu, pick output format as .OGG or .MKV as you decided earlier
-set processing mode to "direct stream copy"
-Save your file and you're done.

That all sounds kind of complex, but I assure you, it's quite simple after you've done it 2 or 3 times. AutoGK takes much of the work out of it by saving the .AC3 file and the .MP3 file after the encode is done so you don't need to do the demuxing or math.

[CeeJay.dk]

For more manual control you can abort autogk after it begin the first pass and then open the *_movie.avs in Avs2avi-GUI.

Here you can insert and remove avisynth filters and tweak the encoding options as well as use a different matrix ( IMO V3ULR is an excellent matrix for ultra-low bitrates .. it smooths out details , but it's better to loose details to smoothing than to horrible artifacts .. but then again I'm trying it out on an extremely hard to encode clip - The first compresablity test AutoGK makes is around 15% )

[BigDid]

Finally got AGK-Xvid 2Gb encodes of LOTR3 playing correctly in my SAP (H&B 3220 ,1389DE chip) Grmblhhhhhh :D ; How ?

I - Very short answer ( me hates reading):angry: :
Keep your xvid.avi small to play in SAP like mine

II – Short answer (how small ?) :rolleyes: :
Depending on the width of the movie, the size of the audio and the number of high motion/action scenes, expect to have problems around 2Gb ; more -> sure, less -> maybe

III – Long answer (me want details ) :sly: :
The bigger the size, the bigger the width, the bigger the bitrate.
Using the MPC player with the input bitrate OSD activated(ffdshow needed), I was able to spot the exact time of the freeze. It happens when a scene is above 2500kbps +and+ lasts for 1mn or more.
So what can be done ? See I or II ; not enough ? Here we go :
If , like me you want to preserve, as much as possible, the quality of the encode for "cult" movies, try not to cross that 2500kbps/1mn threshold for the video or use the Xvid 1.1 beta encoder. The defaults settings : strict curve and VBV buffer will give you 15 to 20% more room in high bitrate scenes ; see here :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=568408#post568408
For the same file size you go down from 65312b to 50631b size for max frame. By the way, Xvid 1.1 is +not+ yet officially supported in AGK ; if you use it and have problems, don’t complain to Len0x !
Not enough ? Sorry, at the moment within AGK, I have no other tips.
What is not implemented in AGK is the high bitrate limiter option included in the 2nth pass of the Xvid 1.1 encoder. From what I understand it should be the answer to extreme situations.

@ Len0x, please make it available (via hidden options ) when Xvid 1.1 is released and officially supported by AGK. /edit: it's called "High bitrate scenes degradation(%)" in the curve compression set/

That’s all folks. :cool:

Did

PS : If you want to read more you can search this thread with the followings « AGK & standalone & high birate ». I just quit using this title because I had very few answers to my inquiries (thanks to Richarddd, Taurus & Len0x who took the time). ;)

[richarddd]

I was just thinking about these issues, came to the forum, and there was your post :) I have a Philips dvp642, btw.

I've been coming to the conclusion that a lower quality encode looks better on my SAP and (non high-def) TV. For a typical movie, I can easily tell the difference between a 1 cd and 2 cd encode on my computer, but can't tell the difference on my TV, other than that a 2 or higher cd encode is more likely to stutter on the TV.

I wonder if (1) burning to DVD will work better than burning to CD (I don't yet have a DVD burner) and (2) quality differnces would be more apparent on a high definition TV than a regular TV.

What is not implemented in AGK is the high bitrate limiter option included in the 2nth pass of the Xvid 1.1 encoder. From what I understand it should be the answer to extreme situations.

Sounds like the best solution. Is there a way to fake it with AGK?

I suppose AGK won't support xvid 1.1 until there is an actual 1.1 :D

[BigDid]

Originally posted by richarddd
I was just thinking about these issues, came to the forum, and there was your post :) I have a Philips dvp642, btw.
It should be like the 630 with a ESS Vibrato chip; as you have'nt stated it -> best use the .ess option of AGK
... other than that a 2 or higher cd encode is more likely to stutter on the TV.
If it is related to the high birate, your SAP is more sensitive than mine -> try Xvid 1.1
I wonder if (1) burning to DVD will work better than burning to CD (I don't yet have a DVD burner) and (2) quality differnces would be more apparent on a high definition TV than a regular TV.
I was given the info that DVD is better/much better? than cd for video streams, I do use DVD. For the HDTV, I've read somewhere else on the forum one or more thread related to this, it seems the answer is yes related the the pixel width of the HDTV ?...
What is not implemented in AGK is the high bitrate limiter option included in the 2nth pass of the Xvid 1.1 encoder. From what I understand it should be the answer to extreme situations.
Give a try to Xvid 1.1 with the default parameters for a 15 to 20% improvments on the high bitrates.
Sounds like the best solution. Is there a way to fake it with AGK?
I suppose so, havent tried it myself with
-AGK tweaker -> needs to confirm the changed scripts for the avisynth part and vdmod 3 or 4 times each, you do it for 1 movie after you may grow impatient;)
-AGK expert -> -New- more or less like the first one have not used it, see the related thread
-Just read the post above mine from CeeJay.dk and I may give it a try; the difference with the above solutions (if I understand it well) is that you pause one time just at the beginning of the first pass, make your changes in the script ( for filtering) change the encoder options via Vdmod -to make those changes persistent through the second pass- and resume; up to AGK to re-run the first pass and adjust the parameters if needed... in theory ;)
I suppose AGK won't support xvid 1.1 until there is an actual 1.1 :D
No support does'nt mean it does'nt work;) In fact I have'nt gone back to 1.02 since my tests, but if problems ... etc...

Geee 2 long typings in english for one day is good but exhausting, hope that helps, read you later:) .

Did

[richarddd]

Originally posted by BigDid
It should be like the 630 with a ESS Vibrato chip; as you have'nt stated it -> best use the .ess option of AGK

Of course :)

If it is related to the high birate, your SAP is more sensitive than mine -> try Xvid 1.1

It often stutters on 2 CD encodes on scenes consisting mainly of moving leaves or rain or the like.

I was given the info that DVD is better/much better? than cd for video streams, I do use DVD.

I read in the hardware player forum that players read DVDs at a higher bit rate than CDs. On the other hand, why not just back up the DVD (or the main movie) uncompressed if you have a DVD drive?

For the HDTV, I've read somewhere else on the forum one or more thread related to this, it seems the answer is yes related the the pixel width of the HDTV ?...

I would have thought HDTV has more pixels than regular TV and therefore shows more movie detail.

Give a try to the default parameters of the Xvid 1.1 for a 15 to 20% improvments on the high bitrates.

What do you mean by a 15-20% improvement?

I suppose so, havent tried it myself with
-AGK tweaker -> needs to confirm the changed scripts for the avisynth part and vdmod 3 or 4 times each, you do it for 1 movie after you may grow impatient;)
-AGK expert -> -New- more or less like the first one have not used it, see the related thread
-Just read the post above mine from CeeJay.dk and I may give it a try; the difference with the above solutions (if I understand it well) is that you pause one time just at the beginning of the first pass, make your changes in the script ( for filtering) change the encoder options via Vdmod -to make those changes persistent through the second pass- and resume; up to AGK to re-run the first pass and adjust the parameters if needed... in theory ;)

Seems a fair amount of effort is required. Especially for those of us who use AGK because we don't really understand how to use the components :)

No support does'nt mean it does'nt work;) In fact I have'nt gone back to 1.02 since my tests, but if problems ... etc...

Geee 2 long typings in english for one day is good but exhausting, hope that helps, read you later:) .

Did

[manono]

Hi-

Here's what I (accidently) discovered to get rid of the stutters and freezing:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85433

Bottom line-a video with an average bitrate of over 7000 burned to CD-R plays smoothly, and none of the movies that used to freeze up briefly do so any more. The DVD-ROMs that these standalone DVD/MPEG-4 players use are cheap pieces of junk, and an upgrade might help matters. No one down in the hardware players forum seemed very interested, though.

Because AutoGK restricts the quants severely (and I restrict mine even more), AutoGK generated encodes are more likely to freeze up then those generated with the standard recommended settings of 2-31, where, during complex scenes the quants go up higher, and the average bitrate might not climb as much.

[richarddd]

@manono

Please give more detail (here or in the other thread) on what you did. Which parts did you switch, how did you hook it up, etc.?

[BigDid]

Originally posted by manono
[B]Hi-
Here's what I (accidently) discovered to get rid of the stutters and freezing:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85433
... and an upgrade might help
Aloha manono, neighbour from the north(Pacific) and Ia O Ra Na from the south :cool:

Nice post
The total height of my SAP is even shorter than the height of my PC-DvdRom player so not possible for me :( but I will advertise your solution whenever possible :)

Because AutoGK restricts the quants severely (and I restrict mine even more), AutoGK generated encodes are more likely to freeze up then those generated with the standard recommended settings of 2-31, where, during complex scenes the quants go up higher, and the average bitrate might not climb as much.

Thanks for your elaborate explanation , this is why I grow impatient to see Xvid 1.1 released because with the standards settings high bitrates are more compressed even if the limit is still there, just 15 to 20% away.
The real tool will be the high bitrate scenes degradation in percent so if it is available via hidden option, as I just requested from Len0x, I can encode the movie once, play it in MPC player (*1), check the bitrate, make the calculation, use the hidden option and ask for xx% more compression of high bitrate, re-encode and that's it.

Much easier than what I have done with the LOTR3: re-encoded 6 times to find the threshold and have a playable movie; actually 2: one is 2gb with audio 192vbr the other is 1/2 dvd with audio 224vbr because the original soundtrack is ac3-6ch and takes more than 600mb:( I will look into the Belite-Besweet thing and try a transcoding from 6 to 2ch but completly new in this domain so ... will see.

Anyhow thanks for the input, nice job you are doing in the forums, Mahalo & Maeva.

Did

(*1) Still searching a more elaborate tool than mpc player(with ffdshow) or the info from VDubMod to have accurate bitrates informations.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by richarddd
(1) I would have thought HDTV has more pixels than regular TV and therefore shows more movie detail.

(2) What do you mean by a 15-20% improvement?



Hi richarddd

(1) Exactly

(2) Do you still need details?

Read you later

Did

[manono]

I'm not sure exactly what you want to know, richardd. These things use standard (but poor quality) DVD-ROMs. If you're comfortable switching out hard drives and optical drives in a computer, it's the same thing. Find the screws that have to be removed to get the top off of the player. Then unplug the ribbon cable and the power cable (just like in a computer), undo whatever holds the DVD-ROM down, remove it, and replace with the new one. You have to make sure that it lines up properly, so the faceplate doesn't catch on anything when being opened and closed. As explained in the other thread, I had to raise the new one a bit with a shim inserted below it, and I used velcro to keep it from moving.

So, you might have to take off the cover to see exactly how yours is held in place, and then maybe collect some small parts to do the job (in my case, I fashioned a shim from some wood, and went to Wal-Mart to get the Velcro with the stickum on the back).

But taking the cover off will show you what has to be done with your particular model of DVD-MPEG-4 player. In principle, it's a real simple operation. Just make sure the new one lines up properly (test it out) before closing it back up. Although I mess with computers a lot, I'd never opened up one of these things before, but it was real easy.

It used to be that before watching a movie with my wife she's ask if it was going to freeze, and I'd tense up during an action scene, wondering when the stuttering was going to start. Have you seen The Bourne Supremacy, with that great car chase scene? Or some of the action scenes in I Robot? Those scenes would have killed my player before. But both movies played with no problems at all with the upgraded one. I tell you, I haven't had so much as a hiccup since I switched out the DVD-ROM. I'd hate for anyone to spend 40 bucks and not have it work for them. But you'll never know 'til you try.

[manono]

Hey BigDid-

Still searching a more elaborate tool than mpc player or the info from VDubMod to have accurate bitrates informations.

Yeah, it would be nice if there were a Bitrate Viewer for AVI. Maybe someone will make one. ffdshow is supposed to be able to do it, but I've never tried. You know, DivX, when encoding using the Home Theater Profile has had max bitrate control for some time. I tried it a few times right after I got my player and started experiencing the stutters. It works, alright, but it made the high bitrate scenes all blocky. That's the main reason I restrict my quants in the first place-to get as even a quality as possible. The idea is to use 2-pass encoding for a specific file size (one or two CDs), but with the even quality of a one-pass quality based encode. I hate that blockiness.

I forgot about the fact that some of the DVD/MPEG-4 players are real thin. Might have to use a DVD-ROM designed for a laptop, maybe.

Where the heck are you? Are you really in French Polynesia? One of those really exotic places like Tahiti, Moorea, or Bora-bora? Of course, if you really live there, it may not seem so exotic and attractive to you. Just like Hawaii is a lot of people's idea of Heaven on Earth, but like every other place, it has its good points and its bad points. The very high cost of living, for one. Just like for you, I think.

[igor_f]

:confused:
Can somebody help me?
Why, when I choose Xvid codec and define size of movie
(for example 1 Gb), I receive only about 500 Mb in final file.
Final size about 2 times smaller, doesn't metter what size I enter.
(I notesed that size usually reduced after 2-nd pass)
How can I control final size?
With using Divx I dont have this problem, but I prefer Xvid.

I was triyng all versions beginning from 1.25, but problem the same.
And, yes, I use Xvid codec included in Auto Gordian Knot installation.

Thanks for any help!

[Filbert]

Originally posted by igor_f
Can somebody help me?
Why, when I choose Xvid codec and define size of movie
(for example 1 Gb), I receive only about 500 Mb in final file.
....

Have a look at the FAQ, especially Question 6.3...
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72679

[igor_f]

I thought I looked everywhere, but I defenetly miss this FAQ, or read it not carefully!

Thank you a lot!

[BigDid]

Originally posted by manono
[B]Hey BigDid-

Still searching a more elaborate tool than mpc player or the info from VDubMod to have accurate bitrates informations.
Yeah, it would be nice if there were a Bitrate Viewer for AVI. Maybe someone will make one. ffdshow is supposed to be able to do it...
Just edited my posts because I use ffdshow in mpc player to display the "instant" bitrate, not very accurate though
...but I've never tried. You know, DivX, when encoding using the Home Theater Profile has had max bitrate control for some time. I tried it a few times right after I got my player and started experiencing the stutters. It works, alright, but it made the high bitrate scenes all blocky. That's the main reason I restrict my quants in the first place-to get as even a quality as possible. The idea is to use 2-pass encoding for a specific file size (one or two CDs), but with the even quality of a one-pass quality based encode. I hate that blockiness.
Yes the profiles may be another way to do the trick, at the expense of lower quality or blockiness, dunno what position Len0x will take on the subject.
Surfed and read a lot these past hours on the subject, I should consider myself lucky because many SAP (like the ESS richarddd owns) behave much more badly than mine.
People having SAP expects the Xvid 1.1 release to cure these problems using or cumulating the following features (no order):
-Profiles like divx, yet to come
-VBV compliancy (works but is limited -within my testing- to 15/20% improvement)
-High scenes degradation, I will try to test that feature.
...One of those really exotic places like Tahiti, Moorea, or Bora-bora? Of course, if you really live there, it may not seem so exotic and attractive to you. Just like Hawaii is a lot of people's idea of Heaven on Earth, but like every other place, it has its good points and its bad points. The very high cost of living, for one. Just like for you, I think.
Exotic Tahiti? like Hawaii for sure, been there 2 times:D
Funny thing is that people here go to your place for shopping ;) everything is relative (french saying)
Completely OT, you dances may be more sensual and ours may be more sexy, can we start a comparison or a poll? just kidding, wrong forum anyhow but ... If you search hard and find that ebay 10.000$ thread or was it 100.000$ :devil:

Have a good day manono

Read you later

Did

[BigDid]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
For more manual control you can abort autogk after it begin the first pass and then open the *_movie.avs in Avs2avi-GUI.

Here you can insert and remove avisynth filters and tweak the encoding options as well as use a different matrix ...
Hi CeeJay.dk

Once you abort autogk how do you finish the encode? manually in Vdubmode? if so can you give more details .
Thanks

Did

[CeeJay.dk]

I use Avs2Avi .. the GUI version by Rainy :
http://www.avs2avi.org/rainy/avs2avid-1.5.zip

Rainy mentions it here :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71493&perpage=20&highlight=avs2avi&pagenumber=8

I do not resume AutoGK again .. it's purpose was simply to calculate good settings .. that you can later tweak further.

A small tutorial :

1) Open Avi2avi.exe

2) Add a new file ( File -> Add ) - There is also icon for this

3) Choose the file called "moviename"_movie.avs in the \agk_tmp\ directory as source

4) Choose an destination filename as output

5) Under Passes add a pass with XviD MPEG-4 Codec - configure its options to make the Encoding type a Twopass - 1st pass (the rest of the settings are inherited from the last time that the XviD codec was previously used .. that was when AutoGK tried to use it .. So AutoGK's settings remain.
Also click more right of encoding type and choose to discard first pass (we dont need it .. only the logfile)

5) Add another similar pass except make this a Twopass - 2nd pass

6) Now click presets and choose Save Current .. Its not necessary but next time you use Avs2Avi you can just edit this previously saved preset.

7) Click OK
You have now put a job into the queue.

To encode it simply press Encode

To edit the avisynth script highlight the job and press the script button.

Here you can add and remove filters - I'm experimenting with different noisefilters myself .. with good results.
I find that it's better to do more noisefiltering and choose a matrix that yields better compresability than to lower the resolution of the out too much if it's a movie thats hard to encode.

You can also preview the output of the filters before encoding by highlighting the job and pressing the preview button.
This is very useful .. tweaking to get the best settings would be a slow and tedious procedure if you had to encode the movie first.

You can also edit the .avs file beforehand and preview it in some mediaplayers .. I use Media Player Classic and it works perfectly.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk [[/B]

I know it's fun, to manipulate programs so they work the way ones want it.
But this is the AutoGk Development Thread. So please stay on the tracks. This thread is huge and if we clutter it more and more it gets almost unreadable.

Have a nice day

Cheers

Taurus

[BigDid]

@ Taurus - I am afraid I am at the origin of the slide? drift?
My goal is not to set AGK aside, on the contrary it is to see and/or inform Len0x about the new features of the Xvid 1.1 release useful to incorporate in AGK for more compatibility with the standalones (SAP). Quite everything here is new for me so sorry if inconvenient.:(

@ CeeJay.dk - I will try to use Avs2Avi; at the moment to see if the high scene degradation compression feature (only for 2nd pass, not available using AGK) is useful. If I have problems using Avs2Avi I will try the thread you pointed out or PM you if that's Ok.

Thanks for your time.

Did

/Edited: If there is a better thread or forum to use for the AGK+SAP+Highbitrate subject, please point it out/

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by BigDid

@ CeeJay.dk - I will try to use Avs2Avi; at the moment to see if the high scene degradation compression feature (only for 2nd pass, not available using AGK) is useful. If I have problems using Avs2Avi I will try the thread you pointed out or PM you if that's Ok.

Thanks for your time.


You are welcome to PM me - I also Skype btw .. as CeeJay.dk ofcourse

[bourtzovlakas]

AutoGK 1.80 beta
- added support for external subtitles to be burnt into final AVI (TXT,SRT,SSA,SUB for text subs, IDX for vobsub subs)
(CTRL-F8 toggles subs selection)
- improved detection of changed parameters after first pass readjustments


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/rey620/Temp/signs-yourock2.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/rey620/Temp/sarcasitc-bow.gif

:thanks:

[Taurus]

Originally posted by BigDid

@ Taurus
A few more words on the SAP topic.
Off topic too...
Like Manao said, there are so many variables to take into account.
(I like the Do-it-yourself enthusiast approach he has mentioned):D
On my old medion player I can play almost everything from Divx3/Divx*/Xvid at reasonable high resolutions and bitrates.
When you are talking about bitrate spikes: I have some old Divx clips
that have REAL beautiful spikes. The Player sometimes shutteres
and is back on his way.
As with Xvid's. In rare cases there are slowdowns and bad seeking on
high bitrate encodes.
I don't think that Xvid 1.1 vbv straight or loose curving will give a solution to this.
Cos, when people think, wow now I can raise my bitrate up a lot, suddenly SAP's memory is overflown with the constant to high bitrate.
As long as manufacturers don't take more care of the designs of their decoders and hardware, we will be lost.

Do some experiments. Play your test encodes with and without MP3 or AC3 sound. Try to mux it to video in different ways. In a short time you will be able to see the dis\advantages of your SAP.
Mostly stutters are because of wrong muxing.

Cheers

Taurus

ahem, my last words on this subject in this thread, I promise...

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
inform Len0x about the new features of the Xvid 1.1 release useful to incorporate in AGK for more compatibility with the standalones (SAP).

Who can tell me - are those features available in single pass encoding with XviD 1.1? (I just don't have it installed)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
Who can tell me - are those features available in single pass encoding with XviD 1.1? (I just don't have it installed)
Hi Len0x, see here (from Koepi gui Xvid 1.1-04/11/06):

http://img131.exs.cx/img131/2868/Xvidconfig.png

1/On the left no new profiles implemented for the moment.
2/It seems nothing new in single pass (the more checkbox leads to CBR features)
3/on the right,(new) defaults for 2nd pass: loose curve scaling when not checked = strict curve,+ respect VBV buffer(nice), bottom in the curve compression item the high bitrate scenes degradation% should be working OK.

In AGK at the moment the new defaults works (as you had guessed right) but not the high bitrate% which is zeroed by AGK, I suppose before or at the beginning of the 2nd pass.

For more infos better asks the Xvid guys (me no specialist) or sharktooth who seems to have tested it quite completely.

Good luck for the next milestone

Did

/Edited: I can put more screenshots from from single pass & 1st pass later on but not at the moment/

[len0x]

As I expected this feature is rather not that useful (its bacically the same as in DivX and I don't use it either). Since 1 pass encoding cannot have this setting - it means that when predicting compressibility we can be quite far off for the source that have lots of bitrate spikes (because we predict maximum quality without taking into account rate control). One good news though - that the actual quality will be always better that we predict (since we need less bitrate with VBV) - bad news that you might have had higher resolution with the same settings at still good quality if you new that. In the worst case you might end up with undersized video because it was maxed out and AutoGK couldn't resize it because it didn't know that...

P.S. I-frame boost and reduce gets reset to 0 indeed (its not new features) because those settings ensure exact quality that we're predicting/expecting

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Who can tell me - are those features available in single pass encoding with XviD 1.1? (I just don't have it installed)

As I can see it from the Xvid 1.1(koepi)gui, the only new advantage there is "use vbv for b frames too" for single pass encodings.
To manipulate loose or straight curve scaling, it's only available in two pass mode.
Haven't tried it out.

Cheers

Taurus

Sorry, len0x you just answered when I hit he button:D

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
As I can see it from the Xvid 1.1(koepi)gui, the only new advantage there is "use vbv for b frames too" for single pass encodings.


I'm puzzled - how VBV can be used in 1 pass encoding if its settings are in the second pass window...

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
I'm puzzled - how VBV can be used in 1 pass encoding if its settings are in the second pass window...
Sorry typo:mad:
Sure it has to be use "vhq for b frames too"....
The only way to manipulate is under the "twopass - 2nd pass" tab.
Shame, shame on me.

Cheers

Taurus

[BigDid]

Hi Len0x, more screenshots(from Koepi gui Xvid 1.1-04/11/06):

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/1764/Xvidconfig2.png

1/On the left single pass, more checkbox.
2/On the right,the advanced options with the "use VHQ for B-frames", not enabled by default.

I will need some time to fully understand your statements (VBV) concerning the new options and AGK, I'll come back later with it, hoping you can spare some time for more explanations or confirmations.

Good luck for what AGK will be, I'm curious though :) :( :) :confused:

Did

[Sharktooth]

Ok, in the koepi's 1.1 build, VBV is based on the DivX Home Theatre profile without any restrictions other than bitrate (for example MPEG-4 tools are still selectable).
It can be used in 2 pass mode ONLY. The same applies to the curve scaling method (loose or strict).
Strict curve scaling results in less PSNR spikes (low and high) so the resulting encode min and max PSNR are more close to the average PSNR.
With loose curve scaling the codecs behaves like (but not properly the same as) the old 1.0x.
Bframes VHQ is ALWAYS a good choice for a better overall quality (slows things down a bit...).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Ok, in the koepi's 1.1 build, VBV is based on the DivX Home Theatre profile.....

Thank you, Sharktooth for this short and competent summarizing.
This is something to remember.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Good luck for what AGK will be, I'm curious though :) :( :) :confused:


Do not worry - nothing that you could see will happen anyway.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Bframes VHQ is ALWAYS a good choice for a better overall quality (slows things down a bit...).

Indeed a nice option, how slow is it?

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
As I expected this feature is rather not that useful (its bacically the same as in DivX and I don't use it either). Since 1 pass encoding cannot have this setting - it means that when predicting compressibility we can be quite far off for the source that have lots of bitrate spikes (because we predict maximum quality without taking into account rate control).
Ok, is it 1 pass encoding only or 1 pass encoding and 1st pass of 2 pass encoding that cannot benefit from the VBV feature ?
One good news though - that the actual quality will be always better that we predict (since we need less bitrate with VBV)
Ok, the movies I have encoded with Xvid 1.1 are usually (predicted) near or very near to the expected quality
- bad news that you might have had higher resolution with the same settings at still good quality if you new that.
Can the AGK 1st pass redo take care of that resolution problem ?
In the worst case you might end up with undersized video because it was maxed out and AutoGK couldn't resize it because it didn't know that...
Uhh… maxed out how ?, the encode having the same resolution as the original (720 width to 720 width) ?
P.S. I-frame boost and reduce gets reset to 0 indeed (its not new features) because those settings ensure exact quality that we're predicting/expecting
Ok, beside the predicting, can this feature be used for less spikes when encoding for SAP ? (as an option maybe)

Lets see if I have it right :

In the past, older revs of AGK relied heavily on the comptest for the expected quality 55/60% for soft matrix below 608 width for 16/9 and 65/70% quality for sharp matrix above 608 width

Actually AGK tries to tune many variables in the 1st pass redo like
- matrix choice
- resizer choice (got sharp matrix & soft resizer together one time, been surprised)
- resolution
to get near the quality percentage wanted

Question: Is your concern to continue in that direction and, whenever easy, incorporate new features (so when not easy just let them down) ?

My concern, since discovering the highbitrate freezes in my SAP, is to ask you to incorporate as many new features as possible to help SAP playing (not so simple). In that perspective I have experimented/tested a few things and given the results in this thread. Up to now summary
- 1.1-strict curve is better than 1.02-loose curve
- 1.1-strict curve and VBV (or 1.1-loose curve & VBV -I have no tools to make the difference-) are much better than 1.02-loose curve
See datasheet and graphs here: http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?postid=568408 and here: http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img83&image=Complet2.png

I have not tested the high bitrate degradation enough to say it is useful (1 time only asked –20% got near –10% compression on the High I frames – as seen in drf analyser) so maybe I asked that feature too soon, I was just re-posting what I have read in others threads or forums.

My intention in asking you to incorporate this features is not to push you to do so, just asking...
Exemple next milestone is DV/AVI input into AGK, I would have preferred the advanced/hidden options but I will wait (Joke: Hey guys, use the survey to push that milestone up :-) )

OT, puzzled by your response to what AGK will be, will try some (possible?) answers in the milestone thread

If you have some time for more details or answers I will appreciate it.
Continue the good work, everything you do is useful.

Did

/Edited: that's a long post, after reading it again and correcting some typos, I am feeling the tone/tune? of the post maybe perceived as ...hummm sharp/incisive? (still searching a better word); if so, it was not my intention/

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Indeed a nice option, how slow is it?

Just a few numbers:

Koepi Xvid 1.02 First Pass: 2.55 Minutes
Koepi Xvid 1.02 Second Pass: 3.45 Minutes 1533 kbit/s

Koepi Xvid 1.1 First Pass: 2.57 Minutes
Koepi Xvid 1.1 Second Pass: 4.02 Minutes 1537 kbit/s

Encoders set to default settings. Mpeg Matrix. 720x400 Res.

On Xvid 1.1: First pass: "Use vhq for bframes too" enabled
Second pass:"Use vhq for bframes too" enabled
Straight curve scaling, respect vbv buffer enabled.

Expected filesize ok on both versions.
If you scale the amount of time to "real life" conditions thats about 7.5% speed loss (for this encode). I don't know the behaviour on different sources or avs scipts.
My testing script was generated by Autogk. Dvd source clip, crop and resize, removegrain, that's all.
No tweaks to the encoder. VdubMod 1.5.4.1

Cheers

Taurus

[CeeJay.dk]

That doesn't sound too shabby .. in fact thats pretty good and IMO worth the extra quality :)

[richarddd]

My concern, since discovering the highbitrate freezes in my SAP, is to ask you to incorporate as many new features as possible to help SAP playing
I agree completely.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
Indeed a nice option, how slow is it?

3 Tests

Same Input: LOTR3 Vob n°4 1gb
Ouput 150 mb
No audio

Test1
AGK, Xvid 1.1
defaults: strict curve+ VBV (no VHQ)
comp test
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Duration was: 1 minute, 28 seconds
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Speed was: 20,68 fps.
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Compressibility percentage is: 49,79
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2,38 )
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Predicted comptest value is: 55,69
[24/11/2004 18:52:01] Running first pass.
[24/11/2004 19:05:28] Duration was: 13 minutes 26 seconds
[24/11/2004 19:05:28] Speed was: 45,26 fps.
[24/11/2004 19:05:28] Expected quality of first pass size: 54,50
[24/11/2004 19:05:28] Running second pass.
[24/11/2004 19:23:37] Duration was: 18 minutes 9 seconds
[24/11/2004 19:23:37] Speed was: 33,51 fps.
Drf analyser:
Performance Caracteristics:
Macroblocks per frame: 608
The Width is multiple of 32
Kilobits per Second: 837.02
Kilobits per Frame: 33.47
Kilobits per Macroblock: 0.055
Bits per Pixel: 0.22
Frame Type Statistics :
I Frames: 1.32%
P Frames: 53.49%
B Frames: 45.19%
Frame Quality Statistics :
DRF=1&2: 2 0.0%
DRF=3: 10149 28.2%
DRF=4: 9379 26.0%
DRF=5: 5592 15.5%
DRF=6: 6800 18.9%
DRF=7: 4102 11.4%
DRF=8: 0 0.0%
DRF=9: 0 0.0%
DRF>9: 0 0.0%
KeyF/DeltaF: 1.34%
KeyDRF<4: 234
KeyDRF=4: 248
KeyDRF>4: 0
AverageKeyDRF: 3.51
MAXDRF: 7
AverageDRF: 4.58
Deviation: 1.36

Snapshot 1 B-frame + Graph here: http://img12.exs.cx/img12/3175/BframeNoVHQ.th.jpg (http://img12.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img12&image=BframeNoVHQ.jpg)
http://img3.exs.cx/img3/264/Default1_1.th.png (http://img3.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img3&image=Default1_1.png)
-----------------------------
Test2
AGK, Xvid 1.1
defaults + VHQ for B frames
comp test
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Duration was: 1 minute, 35 seconds
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Speed was: 19,13 fps.
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Compressibility percentage is: 49,25
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2,38 )
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Predicted comptest value is: 55,09
[24/11/2004 19:31:12] Running first pass.
[24/11/2004 19:44:41] Duration was: 13 minutes 28 seconds
[24/11/2004 19:44:41] Speed was: 45,13 fps.
[24/11/2004 19:44:41] Expected quality of first pass size: 54,50
[24/11/2004 19:44:41] Running second pass.
[24/11/2004 20:04:21] Duration was: 19 minutes 40 seconds
[24/11/2004 20:04:21] Speed was: 30,93 fps.
Drf Analyser
Performance Caracteristics:
Macroblocks per frame: 608
The Width is multiple of 32
Kilobits per Second: 836.99
Kilobits per Frame: 33.47
Kilobits per Macroblock: 0.055
Bits per Pixel: 0.22
Frame Type Statistics :
I Frames: 1.32%
P Frames: 53.49%
B Frames: 45.19%
Frame Quality Statistics :
DRF=1&2: 1 0.0%
DRF=3: 9356 26.0%
DRF=4: 10170 28.2%
DRF=5: 4705 13.1%
DRF=6: 7125 19.8%
DRF=7: 4667 13.0%
DRF=8: 0 0.0%
DRF=9: 0 0.0%
DRF>9: 0 0.0%
KeyF/DeltaF: 1.34%
KeyDRF<4: 216
KeyDRF=4: 266
KeyDRF>4: 0
AverageKeyDRF: 3.55
MAXDRF: 7
AverageDRF: 4.64
Deviation: 1.38
Snapshot 1 B-frame + Graph here: http://img107.exs.cx/img107/6717/BframeWiVHQ.th.jpg (http://img107.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img107&image=BframeWiVHQ.jpg)
http://img77.exs.cx/img77/4939/DefaultWiVHQ.th.png (http://img77.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img77&image=DefaultWiVHQ.png)
-------------------------------
Test3
AGK, Xvid 1.02
defaults
comp test
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Duration was: 1 minute, 30 seconds
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Speed was: 20,10 fps.
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Compressibility percentage is: 49,28
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2,38 )
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Predicted comptest value is: 55,12
[26/11/2004 06:20:43] Running first pass.
[26/11/2004 06:34:17] Duration was: 13 minutes 34 seconds
[26/11/2004 06:34:17] Speed was: 44,82 fps.
[26/11/2004 06:34:17] Expected quality of first pass size: 52,67
[26/11/2004 06:34:17] Running second pass.
[26/11/2004 06:52:34] Duration was: 18 minutes 16 seconds
[26/11/2004 06:52:34] Speed was: 33,28 fps.
Drf Analyser
Kilobits per Second: 836.40
Kilobits per Frame: 33.45
Kilobits per Macroblock: 0.055
Bits per Pixel: 0.22
Frame Type Statistics :
I Frames: 1.50%
P Frames: 55.13%
B Frames: 43.37%
Frame Quality Statistics :
DRF=1&2: 186 0.5%
DRF=3: 10622 29.5%
DRF=4: 10402 28.9%
DRF=5: 4977 13.8%
DRF=6: 6039 16.8%
DRF=7: 3731 10.4%
DRF=8: 0 0.0%
DRF=9: 0 0.0%
DRF>9: 0 0.0%
KeyF/DeltaF: 1.53%
KeyDRF<4: 287
KeyDRF=4: 262
KeyDRF>4: 0
AverageKeyDRF: 3.47
MAXDRF: 7
AverageDRF: 4.46
Deviation: 1.35

Snapshot 1 B-frame + Graph here: http://img90.exs.cx/img90/2889/Bframe1_02.th.jpg (http://img90.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img90&image=Bframe1_02.jpg)
http://img3.exs.cx/img3/3504/Default1_02.th.png (http://img3.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img3&image=Default1_02.png)
--------------------------------

I did not mix-up the DRF analysis (double checked), no VHQ seems marginally better than with VHQ.
/Edited: the results (DRF analyser) seem strange because Xvid 1.1(beta) is not used in a standard way by the actual AGK (1.80)/
/Edited2: 1 more test with Xvid 102, standard encode, same source, same conditions, snapshots to come/
/Edited3: Added Snapshots from DrfAnalyser Graphs/

Did

[Taurus]

Originally posted by BigDid
How did you get this thing working:

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/564/11defaults.png



http://img123.exs.cx/img123/3423/AutoGk.png

First picture is Xvid 1.1 defaults.
Second picture is AutoGk setting.
So, no use inside AutoGk.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Ok, is it 1 pass encoding only or 1 pass encoding and 1st pass of 2 pass encoding that cannot benefit from the VBV feature ?
Ok, the movies I have encoded with Xvid 1.1 are usually (predicted) near or very near to the expected quality
Uhh… maxed out how ?, the encode having the same resolution as the original (720 width to 720 width) ?


You didn't grasp what is it all about :)
Maximum bitrate limit means that you have spare bits in case spike that was found is too sharp. So those bits can be used in encoding of surrounding(? I don't really know how it works exactly) frames. So basically you'll get better quality for those frames where spare bits were spent. And if you have lots of spare bits (= lots of sharp spikes) then you'll have lots of frames that have better quality that you expected/predicted. major problem arises when most of the frames are maxed out (i.e. when say compressibility is ~95-100%). You can't put more bits into maxed out frame, so you'll end up with undersized file. Having said that - it probably can only occur when you use fixed width or maximum width in autogk (or as you said you have output width 720 in auto mode already) since AutoGK aims to ~70% quality and its highly unlikely that second pass adjustments will increase it by 30%.

Moreover its improssible to say what is the real quality of the file you get (so you will never know if its just 2-3% or 20% difference to what you expect), because all adjustmets are made during second pass of XviD and it doesn't log what it was actually doing. So its impossible to detect that VBV/curves did increase compressibility quite a lot and make adjustments according to that.

Originally posted by BigDid
Ok, beside the predicting, can this feature be used for less spikes when encoding for SAP ? (as an option maybe)


yes, it is a useful feature indeed, I'm just hesitant to put it as a default option because not all standalones have this problem today (and less and less will) and because of the problems above.

This feature will be dealt with somehow for sure but only when 1.1 gets stable (and as you can set those extra options in XviD by yourself and AutoGK won't reset them - I don't really see what the problem is).

[richarddd]

@VBV Buffer

For the slow among us, to use the VBV buffer in an attempt to get better results on a SAP, just install xvid 1.1 and check "Respect VBV Buffer"? Any other settings? Also, you'd only have to check it once, as AGK doesn't reset it?

[len0x]

yes

[Sharktooth]

The VBV buffer should be safe for the everyday 2 pass encodes. IIRC the VBV limit for the DivX Home Theatre profile is about 7000kbps... wich is pretty high.
Since it works for 2 pass encodings only, 1 pass quality based encodings arent affected by VBV...
The B-Frame VHQ slowdown depends on how many consecutive b-frames are set.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Taurus
How did you get this thing working...

Hi Taurus,

AGK is using Xvid 1.1, not me because I don't know how to use it by myself.

Concerning the parameters, you are right, just checked it. Is it serious doctor?

I mean is this abnormal behaviour affecting enough AGK so the resulting is +really+ screwed?

Joke: I already stated Len0x will not support Xvid1.1 until officially released, :D hope this statement is enough not to get sued, I am not in very good terms with my lawyer actually :mad:

Thanks

Did

/Edited:
@ taurus: do you mind if I post and quote in the xvid 1.1 thread?/

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
So, no use inside AutoGk.


What does this mean?
You're getting ppl confused... (well at least BigDid who's got so nervous that started making jokes, that I don't get :) )

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
What does this mean?
You're getting ppl confused... (well at least BigDid who's got so nervous that started making jokes, that I don't get :) )

Not a good day for me :( , I will edit my joke but that's no fun :D

Len0x: more to come, struggling with the quotes at the moment.

Did

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
[B]You didn't grasp what is it all about :)
Yes this is why I ask. Give me some time.

This feature will be dealt with somehow for sure but only when 1.1 gets stable (and as you can set those extra options in XviD by yourself and AutoGK won't reset them - I don't really see what the problem is).
Ahem... I was talking about the high bitrate scene degradation which is (to my actual -bad- knowledge of the process) zeroed by AGK. I thought we were talking about the same thing, now not so sure; quote from one of you previous post:

" P.S. I-frame boost and reduce gets reset to 0 indeed (its not new features) because those settings ensure exact quality that we're predicting/expecting "

Thanks

Did

OT: I still dont get the following, you are welcome to come back on th subject again (now is it really a subject?) quote:
"Do not worry - nothing that you could see will happen anyway."

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Ahem... I was talking about the high bitrate scene degradation which is (to my actual -bad- knowledge of the process) zeroed by AGK. I thought we were talking about the same thing, now not so sure

Aha, but what's the problem with that? I thought VBV takes care of it anyway...

[mightyspawn]

Well ive got a DVD, Born on the fourth of july. I think it's some cheap version because it is 16:9 widescreen. But autio gordian knot says it is 4:3. When it is finished and i open the file it is widescreen, without any black borders. But the results are so terrible. Ok the original is also not that superior, but not this bad. I ripped 2x700 with 192kb audio in XVID. is pal dvd

Is this link any help for me? http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77780

[len0x]

@mightyspawn

lets start with :logfile:

P.S. as to your other problem - you can use File Mode if you don't need subs and just first audio track.

[mightyspawn]

[9-11-2004 14:23:28] AutoGK 1.60
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Job started.
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Input dir: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Output file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4.avi
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Audio: English
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Subtitles: Nederlands : Normal
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Codec: XviD
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Target size: 1400Mb
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 160Kbps
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Started encoding.
[9-11-2004 14:23:28] Demuxing and indexing.
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Processing file: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.VOB
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Source resolution: 720x576
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Found PAL source.
[9-11-2004 14:26:34] Analyzing source.
[9-11-2004 14:31:39] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,33
[9-11-2004 14:31:39] Source is considered to be progressive.
[9-11-2004 14:31:39] Found 207416 frames
[9-11-2004 14:31:39] Encoding audio.
[9-11-2004 14:49:35] Indexing subtitles.
[9-11-2004 14:52:04] Compressing subtitles.
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Audio size: 166,738,544 bytes (159.01 Mb)
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Overhead: 8,296,704 bytes (7.91 Mb)
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Subtitles size: 809,620 bytes (0.77 Mb)
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Video size: 1,292,161,532 bytes (1232.30 Mb)
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Running compressibility test.
[9-11-2004 14:52:08] Writing the following script to E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\agk_tmp\4_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\agk_tmp\4.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Duration was: 6 minutes 15 seconds
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Speed was: 27,61 fps.
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Compressibility percentage is: 50,54
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Using softer matrix.
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2,38 )
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Predicted comptest value is: 65,83
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Running first pass.
[9-11-2004 14:58:24] Writing the following script to E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\agk_tmp\4_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\agk_tmp\4.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[9-11-2004 15:54:37] Duration was: 56 minutes 13 seconds
[9-11-2004 15:54:37] Speed was: 61,49 fps.
[9-11-2004 15:54:37] Expected quality of first pass size: 82,70
[9-11-2004 15:54:37] Running second pass.
[9-11-2004 17:29:41] Duration was: 1 hour, 35 minutes 3 seconds
[9-11-2004 17:29:41] Speed was: 36,37 fps.
[9-11-2004 17:29:42] Splitting video into: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4.cd1.avi
[9-11-2004 17:31:06] Splitting and compressing subtitles.
[9-11-2004 17:31:06] Executing: rundll32.exe vobsub.dll,Cutter E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4 E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4.cd1 1 0:0:0.0 01:08:17.760
[9-11-2004 17:31:08] Splitting video into: E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4.cd2.avi
[9-11-2004 17:32:46] Splitting and compressing subtitles.
[9-11-2004 17:32:46] Executing: rundll32.exe vobsub.dll,Cutter E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4 E:\BORN_ON_THE_FOURTH_OF_JULY\4.cd2 1 01:08:17.760 02:18:28.639
[9-11-2004 17:32:48] Job finished.

[len0x]

so what is so terrible about that encode?

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
Aha, but what's the problem with that? I thought VBV takes care of it anyway...
...... speechless

/Edited: Searching ... /

Did

[Wesmosis]

You rock! :P:):O:(

[ukb007]

Your encode is as good as to be expected, given your source. And the link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77780) you quote is not relevant to your situation. A width of 608 and acceptable AR is pretty good, I'd say.

After finding source directory, AGK makes the primary report of AR from the stream info file, which, in turn, takes the info from the .IFO file in the DVD. The streaminfo file does not contain the running time, or AGK would have reported it, too.

Regards.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Aha, but what's the problem with that? I thought VBV takes care of it anyway...
So I'm a little confused by now.
In my understanding if i enable "respect vbv buffer" straight curve scaling, this should act as a hard knee limiter (in audio terms) to make sure sudden bitrate bumps will not saturate the buffer on SAP's
or slow PCs. As Sharktooth figured out this might happen at 7000 kbs (same as Divx?).For compatibility reasons this was implanted.

So on my own tests I took a source with sudden sharp short motional I frame changes. Encoded it with and without "respect vbv buffer".
I know DRF Analyzer is sometimes not good on Xvid, but what makes me wonder: Both encodes show exactly the same height (in numbers) on the highest peaks graph. So no limiting at all (in comparision). But there was an influence to the average bitrate.

Of course Koepi 1.1.
Average bitrate at about 2000kbs.

Maybe some nice soul might explain this to me?

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

I'm not really an expert on the feature (XviD forum would be more appropriate place to ask about it) but I might speculate about it:

VBV buffer limit defines not a single frame limit but a window of frames, so if it just one frame with a large spike (that is to be corrected not because of buffer overflow but because of the curve) then if 7000kbit limit is allowed surrounding frames might get large bitrate to smooth the curve instead of reducing bitrate of the spike. (so average bitrate should be higher for such window). Only if VBV buffer is already maxed out then bitrate will be reduced.

I might be totally wrong though, so feel free to correct me in that case.

@Taurus

Do you have any single frames with >7000kbit size in that encode?

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Taurus
How did you get this thing working:


Hi Taurus,

2nd post on the subject, I have edited my tests (page 160), now 3 tests the third being with Xvid 1.02, same machine, same conditions, output to DRF analyser + 3 snapshots related on a B frame.

At the moment,no time to compare; if you can ,please do so or anybody feel free to.

Did

/Edited: Sorry, I was really in a hurry, asap I will take the time to compare -what I can- compare./

[richarddd]

Originally posted by Taurus
How did you get this thing working:

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/564/11defaults.png



http://img123.exs.cx/img123/3423/AutoGk.png

First picture is Xvid 1.1 defaults.
Second picture is AutoGk setting.
So, no use inside AutoGk.

Cheers

Taurus

Are you saying checking VBV won't matter in AGK because AGK changes 10-1-20 to 0-1-0?

From the thread for the latest xvid build in the xvid forum:

Posted by Koepi on 4th November 2004 10:51:

VBV works with hardcoded values currently, no matter what you enter as profile. I / we should adopt that of course. Don't forget this is a test build. We were wondering if VBV compliancy works as expected at all - which it seems to do. So now it's time to extend that.

[len0x]

Originally posted by richarddd
Are you saying checking VBV won't matter in AGK because AGK changes 10-1-20 to 0-1-0?

No, C'mon ppl :)
VBV is checked before writing output mpeg stream to ensure VBV compliance while all other 2-pass adjustemens are done before that! (otherwise VBV check box would not make sense).

P.S. Taurus, its your fault :)

[richarddd]

@len0x

It is Taurus's fault :)

I was trying to figure out what he meant, as I don't understand why there should be a relation between the 3 values and VBV. The Koepi quote in my edit shows that VBV works anyway.

[Mouse]

len0x,

I have discovred since version 1.79, that when doing "1min samples" from a MPEG2 (dvd) stream, and using the method to stop DGIndex and doing a so called "range-copy", the sound is taken from the beggining of the stream and not from where you "marked" in DGIndex.

I does not happen allways, but most randomly it seems.

Not a big issue really, just for your info.

[len0x]

its not >=1.79 specific issue, but just DGIndex behaves badly :)

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
P.S. Taurus, its your fault :)
Nag,Nag!
Shame on me.
My interpretation was wrong.
From my job, I work a lot with audio tools called compressors and limiters.
Normally you would insert a limiter at the first part of the chain.
so the following stages will not be overdriven(is this correct english?)
My understanding on video compressing is not that good, so thank you len0x
for clearing up the sky for me :D
Anyway, I will do some testclips with real high voltage and feed it into my SAP, with and without vbv, with and without AGK's settings for intra frames tuning.
Stay tuned and if I'm right the Nag,Nag will be on you ;)

Cheers

Taurus

[BigDid]

Hi everybody,

I do not have access to my computer atm (motherboard ooo) and I cannot post the complete summary I wanted to share. This subject being still in process (no stable Xvid 1.1 released), I will re-make a short summary using the details of the 3 tests I made (page 160) here :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=64266&perpage=20&pagenumber=160

First of all THE TESTS ARE NOT RELEVANT. The actual AGK is not using the Xvid 1.1 beta (Koepi gui build) in a normal way (see Taurus posts on the subject). I have no idea and no information about the degradation that it may generate except the diferences in the DRF results and the snapshots (see below).

Summary about the tests :

I - Speed :
1/Xvid 1.1 defaults (strict curve+VBV) = 33’04 total time
2/Xvid 1.02 defaults = 33’21
3/Vxid 1.1 +VHQ for B-frames = 34’44
This was the initial purpose of the test, Len0x wanting to know how slow is VHQ for B-frames in Xvid 1.1

II – Quality
1/Xvid 1.02 = 4,46 average DRF
2/Xvid 1.1 defaults = 4,58
3/Xvid 1.1 +VHQ = 4,64
This seems to point out the abnormal results of the test. To my understanding, Xvid 1.1 should have better quality than 1,02, and 1.1+VHQ for B-frames should have better (overall) quality than 1.1 defaults. I may be wrong or not accurate on this point so please confirm or infirm.
Beside DRF analyser, another way to test the quality is to compare the snapshots. What I see (use x2 magnification to see the differences) is more blocks/shaggyness in the downleft corner in the 1.1 & 1.1+VHQ compared to the 1.02.

3/ VBV buffer ( a useful(expected) new feature to reduce spikes and/or high bitrates in SAP)
Considering the quality issue, I will not make any conclusion concerning the new VBV buffer feature. But if you look at the graphs from DRF analyser it seems clear the VBV feature is doing (part of ?) the job. Look specially at the I-frame (black bar) in the middle left part and see the difference between the 1.02 and the 1.1 build.

Conclusion
No conclusion except that I am willing to re-do the tests as soon as there is a AGK beta-build working well with a Xvid1.1 beta-build.

Did

P.S. Len0x & AGK do not support the Xvid 1.1beta actually and I am no Xvid specialist, I just use AGK.

[Sharktooth]

1.1+strict CS = better AVERAGE quality (that means better OVERALL PSNR)...
If you want to do a frame by frame comparison use LOOSE CS...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
1.1+strict CS = better AVERAGE quality (that means better OVERALL PSNR)...
If you want to do a frame by frame comparison use LOOSE CS...

what does this mean? That some of the frames may look worse and some better, so you cannot do comparasion directly with 1.02?

[Sharktooth]

Exactly. Strict CS encodings has better "low quality frames" and worse "high quality frames" than loose CS encodings.
The average quality is about the same but it produces a more "constant" encode (that's not always better...).

[len0x]

as I expected. Now the tough choice what should we do about it in AutoGK :)

[Sharktooth]

I did some tests and i found i like Strict CS only in low motion sources (they looks more like a constant Q encode) and sometimes with anime but i dont like it for action movies or in cases where there is mix of high and low motion scenes.
Loose CS is always good for every kind of sources.

[richarddd]

@Did

How do these look when you play the files on your SAP? Does VBV eliminate the stutter problem?

[BigDid]

Originally posted by richarddd
@Did

How do these look when you play the files on your SAP? Does VBV eliminate the stutter problem?

Yes.
This is the movie (LOTR3) that made my SAP freezes with a 2gb size, now with the VBV I can make the encode at 2.24Gb (1/2DVD). That makes, for that movie a 12% improvment. This is also my goal: make an encode with DVD or very near DVD quality and still use only 1/2 DVD; the blanks DVD are very expensive here :mad:
I believe more can be done with the VBV and maybe the high scene degradation: around 15 to 20% but no relevant tests done and no more possible atm.

By the way, I used loose curve+VBV for this LOTR3 encode for a little speed gain,see my very first tests( N°4=12.27fps versus N°3=11.84fps) here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=20&pagenumber=154

The DRF graphs are also available and the peak differences without VBV are visible. /Edited: you can see also the differences in frame distribution between the 4 clips, even between strict curve and loose curve, with or without VBV/

I have still no info about the degradation impact, just read Sharktooth post about loose curve... Question: could this small quality difference (DRF average 4.46 to 4.58) be caused not by the Xvid 1.1 but by the 1.1 strict curve compared to 1.02 ? ( I did not made a 1.1 loose curve test) Sorry no more tests possible so I cannot answer my question.

Did

PS. The 2.24gb file is split in 2 with VDmod; if not my SAP just don't play that over 2gb size file.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by BigDid
Question: could this small quality difference (DRF average 4.46 to 4.58) be caused not by the Xvid 1.1 but by the 1.1 strict curve compared to 1.02 ? ( I did not made a 1.1 loose curve test) Sorry no more tests possible so I cannot answer my question.
Yes.

[len0x]

What change log doesn't mention is that its actually XviD 1.1 ready. I would not recommend using it yet that is why its not announced in public. The option to control bitrate spikes uses DivX home theatre profile and XviD VBV. Loose curve is forced in AutoGK as well now.

P.S. Let this info stay in this forum please :)

[richarddd]

Originally posted by BigDid
Yes.
This is the movie (LOTR3) that made my SAP freezes with a 2gb size, now with the VBV I can make the encode at 2.24Gb (1/2DVD). That makes, for that movie a 12% improvment. This is also my goal: make an encode with DVD or very near DVD quality and still use only 1/2 DVD; the blanks DVD are very expensive here :mad:

Excellent!

I may have to re-encode a number of movies using VBV. At least DVD blanks are not overly expensive here (on sale, you can get a 50 pc spindle for $20)

[richarddd]

Originally posted by len0x
What change log doesn't mention is that its actually XviD 1.1 ready. I would not recommend using it yet that is why its not announced in public. The option to control bitrate spikes uses DivX home theatre profile and XviD VBV. Loose curve is forced in AutoGK as well now.

P.S. Let this info stay in this forum please :)

Why wouldn't you recommend using it yet?

Will xvid 1.1 with 1.81 beta be worse than 1.1 with earlier betas?

P.S. I won't tell :)

[BigDid]

@Len0x, thanks for the 1.81.
I will have to negociate with my wife to install and use it on her computer, may takes some time...

@Sharktooth, thanks for the answer and the info.

Originally posted by richarddd
Excellent!

I may have to re-encode a number of movies using VBV. At least DVD blanks are not overly expensive here (on sale, you can get a 50 pc spindle for $20)
@ Richarddd,

May I advise you to be careful and make tests on DVD/RW first. Your SAP may not have the same threshold as mine. As Taurus as said experiment with different audio that may also influence on SAP processing (and stutter).

An exemple, I could not have a 2Gb encode (even with 1.1 & VBV) for the Tina TURNER in Wembley DVD-concert. Using the 2ch AC3 the max I could do without stutters (not freezing) is 1,850Gb. The video quality is so-so (not so bad, not so good)
This is why I am asking for even more SAP compatibility. If not, I will consider recoding (with recode or DVD-shrink) the DVD-concerts (and only them) and make use of the menus.

Concerning the blank DVD-R prices, the best I can do (until the stock is out) is around 20$ for 25 pieces(leaddata 4x), but usually the good brands are about 10 pieces for 50$ cough & recough. :eek:

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by richarddd
Why wouldn't you recommend using it yet?


Not specifically to all the readers of this forum, just to the general public: I do not want promote beta versions of XviD, because AutoGK is being used by a _lot_ of ppl that expect production quality components in it :)

Originally posted by richarddd
Will xvid 1.1 with 1.81 beta be worse than 1.1 with earlier betas?


no, what gave you that idea ?

[richarddd]

@Did

test burns are always a good idea :)

I don't have a DVD burner yet, but hope to have one by the end of the week

@len0x

no, what gave you that idea ?

just checking.

thanks for the new version :cool:

[gudjong]

Like this tool alot for I do not need all the fetures in gk. What I mainly do with this is to avi files from my Dreambox. Files are often 2.5 to 3GB so I'ts nice to be able to shrink them on 1 cd.

What I miss however is the abilety to select 1pass encoding for faster decoding.

Thanks.

[len0x]

Originally posted by gudjong
What I miss however is the abilety to select 1pass encoding for faster decoding.


Target quality based encoding = 1 pass encoding in AutoGK. 1 pass CBR is not gonna be an option...

[gudjong]

Originally posted by len0x
Target quality based encoding = 1 pass encoding in AutoGK. 1 pass CBR is not gonna be an option...

Ok thank's for explaning this m8.

:)

[Carraway]

I might as well mention this -- if it's been hashed out before, feel free to ignore.

I was encoding some DVD extras yesterday, some of which were only a couple minutes in length, and the compressibility tests were taking nearly as long as the first pass itself. I looked at the avs files and I was getting numbers like this, e.g.:

For a 1:30 second clip, comp test frames: 2059; total clip frames: 2196.
For a :55 second clip, comp test frames: 1320; total clip frames: 1320 (heh).
For a 3:10 second clip, comp test frames: 2025; total clip frames: 4573.

I don't really know the comptest algorithm for how it decides what % to use, but this seems like overkill for short clips. Is there a reason it does this? Is it a secondary effect of a minimum # of comptest frames? If there is a limit, would it be possible to somehow reduce the comptest frames for clips where the total number of frames is less than the comptest limit? Or something? Just curious.

[bourtzovlakas]

@carraway
From the changelog of version 1.50 beta:
comp test and analysis step have now lower limit of 2000 frames for better accuracy on short sources

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
I If there is a limit, would it be possible to somehow reduce the comptest frames for clips where the total number of frames is less than the comptest limit? Or something? Just curious.

On very short sources even 10% comp test can be upto 40-50% wrong...
So instead of redoing first pass its better to have more accurate info to start with.

[superdump]

I've been running AutoGK 1.81b on some episodes of 24. I left everything as auto and set it to use XviD. On installation I checked neither of the standalone compatibility options. I set the target filesize to be 250MB. Every time it has produced an oversized file (ranging from 309MB to 313MB) and every time it has rerun the first pass. From consulting the log files the size calculations of Video size = 250MB - Audio size - Overhead have been correct. Any ideas why the files are coming out incorrectly sized?

[len0x]

Originally posted by superdump
Any ideas why the files are coming out incorrectly sized?

Only episodes of 24? Can you try anything else?
And also - always provide log files...

[weiqj]

According to Doom9 news:
Nero Recode 2.2 is out, and it contains the new MPEG-4 AVC codec developed by ateme.

Any plan to support it?

[Sharktooth]

You cant use Ateme H.264 encoder from outside Nero Recode 2...

[ydobon]

I just tried to do my first 1.81b encode and I got a "EXCEPTION: Unable to set codec settings in registry." error message. Any idea about the problem?

I've uninstalled AGK and I'm trying again. Meanwhile, log is as follows:

[04/12/2004 20:45:59] AutoGK 1.81b
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Job started.
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Input file: movie_1.ts
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Output file: C:\dreambox\movie_1.avi
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Audio: MPEG2 Audio on PID 0x55
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Audio2: MPEG2 Audio on PID 0x54
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Subtitles: none
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Codec: XviD
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Target size: 1493Mb
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 128Kbps
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Started encoding.
[04/12/2004 20:45:59] Demuxing and indexing.
[04/12/2004 20:52:54] Processing file: C:\dreambox\movie_1.ts
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Processing file: C:\dreambox\movie_2.ts
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Processing file: C:\dreambox\movie_3.ts
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Processing file: C:\dreambox\movie_4.ts
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Source resolution: 528x576
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Found PAL source.
[04/12/2004 20:52:55] Analyzing source.
[04/12/2004 21:02:45] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,11
[04/12/2004 21:02:45] Source is considered to be progressive.
[04/12/2004 21:02:46] Found 184456 frames
[04/12/2004 21:02:46] Encoding audio.
[04/12/2004 21:15:31] Encoding second audio.
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Audio size: 118,053,248 bytes (112.58 Mb)
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Audio 2 size: 118,052,480 bytes (112.58 Mb)
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Overhead: 4,380,928 bytes (4.18 Mb)
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Video size: 1,325,037,312 bytes (1263.65 Mb)
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Running compressibility test.
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Writing the following script to C:\dreambox\agk_tmp\movie_1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\dreambox\agk_tmp\movie_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45454545454545
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Unable to set codec settings in registry.
*************************************
[04/12/2004 21:28:49] Job finished.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
I just tried to do my first 1.81b encode and I got a "EXCEPTION: Unable to set codec settings in registry." error message. Any idea about the problem?


Interesting... I've implemented a check if AutoGK can actually write a registry. What account (admin, limited etc) are you running AutoGK under?

P.S. was it your first run after you installed XviD by any chance ?

[ydobon]

Hi,

Originally posted by len0x
Interesting... I've implemented a check if AutoGK can actually write a registry. What account (admin, limited etc) are you running AutoGK under?
Admin, so it should not have problems with that.

Also posted by len0x
P.S. was it your first run after you installed XviD by any chance ?
Yes, it was. Damn DivX keep stealing XviD's FourCC and I tried the brute force approach (after failing that, I found the DivX checkbox *blush*).
Can it be that the problem?

uninstalled everything, rebooted, reinstalled again and same error :(

I went back to AGK 1.80b and now it works as expected


Regards,

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
Yes, it was. Damn DivX keep stealing XviD's FourCC and I tried the brute force approach (after failing that, I found the DivX checkbox *blush*).
Can it be that the problem?


Yes, I check if I can write the registry key, but it fails if the key is not there (XviD deletes registry settings on install). I fixed that already, but to make it work with 1.81 you need to display XviD config window at least once befoe starting AutoGK.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
uninstalled everything, rebooted, reinstalled again and same error :(


try 1.82 with the same scenario

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
P.S. Let this info stay in this forum please :)
Hi Len0x,

I have a Working PC again (same mobo with a XP2400 instead of a 2800Barton), just tried to redo the same tests with AGK 1.81 and I have the same problem, AGK changes the 2nd pass Intra-frames tuning from 10/1/20 to 0/1/0
Still have no info on the possible degradation, but what I see is Xvid 1.02 seems better than 1.1 used by AGK (defaults beeing: loose curve scaling, VHQ for B-frames, no VBV buffer)

Do you mind if I post in the Xvid 1.1 thread quoting this thread to have more info on the subject?

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
AGK changes the 2nd pass Intra-frames tuning from 10/1/20 to 0/1/0


Again, what is wrong with that? (we seem to be runing in circles here)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
Again, what is wrong with that? (we seem to be runing in circles here)

Quoting my post: "... but what I see is Xvid 1.02 seems better than 1.1 used by AGK (defaults beeing: loose curve scaling, VHQ for B-frames, no VBV buffer)"
Don't have atm access to the new tests but it is still the (small) difference in the DRF, something like:
1.02->DRF 4.46
1.1 -> DRF 4.54 /Edited: confirmed/
I take your answer as a no

Did

PS: I will edit the DRF results with the exact values asap

[len0x]

I might be reading you wrong, but I thought that what actually bothers you is AutoGK's second pass setting that were to blame and not quality of 1.02 vs 1.1 (and that I do not understand).

So as far as I can see its no longer about AutoGK, but just XviD and indeed folks over at XviD forum should be able to answer your question there.

P.S. DRF doesn't tell you that much - do you see real difference in quality?

[ydobon]

Hi, Len0x.

Originally posted by len0x
try 1.82 with the same scenario
Done. It worked flawlessly. Thanks.

[richarddd]

Shouldn't xvid with VBV have marginally worse quality than without VBV, as VBV prevents it from distributing bytes most efficiently.

I share len0x's view that DRF doesn't tell you a lot, especially small DRF differences. I'd rather rely on visual inspection.

For me, being able to limit the maximum bitrate, to deal with standalone stutters, is more important than minor quality differences. I can always increase the size of the encode to add quality, so long as it doesn't exacerbate playback issues. Alas, I don't know which settings are best for that. We may have to wait for a newer xvid 1.1 in which they let you set maximum bitrate.

EDIT: I found this by Sharktooth in the xvid forum. Does AutoGK behave as described?

...do not use ultra-high bitrates (at least until xvid 1.1 with VBV buffer), do not use QPEL, do not use GMC, use MP3 (suggested choice) or AC3 (only if you know HOW to mux it) audio and AVI container, do not use custom quantization matrices with INTER frame matrix that have values, or at least that start (the value in the upper left corner) with a value, lower than "16".
...if you're going to use 1 max cons. Bframe (suggested choice) select packet bitstream. If you're going to use 2 max cons. Bframes uncheck packet bitstream... in any case do not use more than 2 max cons. Bframes.

[len0x]

Originally posted by richarddd
EDIT: I found this by Sharktooth in the xvid forum. Does AutoGK behave as described?


with ESS option and XviD 1.1 it does (well apart from packed stream option that is always off)

[Carraway]

Hey, I've got a mystery bug. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I can't figure it out:

I have an ATI HDTV Wonder (for the time being), and it records video to generic mpeg-2 files (I think). Anyway, I load a clip into AutoGK and press start -- DGIndex pops up, and then...nothing happens.

It basically opens the clip in DGIndex and then it just sits there. It doesn't lock up or anything -- I can hit F5 and it runs preview just fine, but F4 (or File -> Save Project) simply DOES NOT WORK. As far as I can tell, this is the only thing that doesn't work. It functions as though I had opened the clip in DGIndex normally, except that I can't save. So I'm forced to close DGIndex (prompting the "Can't find D2V" error, obviously) or terminate the process through AutoGK.

The weird thing is, if I run DGIndex from the AutoGK folder, then I can open the clip and save it as a project just fine. When I first load it, I get a "Warning, Opening GOP is not closed" warning, but that's it. So this problem only happens through AutoGK.

Len0x -- do you use some obscure setting when launching DGIndex that might cause this?

--

Reference stuff:

Media Player Classic lists these streams when I open the file, maybe it'll give you some kind of hint:

Video(0000,e0,00)
Audio(0000,bd,80)
Subtitle(0000,00,00)

And since there aren't really any logs that can show what's going on, here is a sample clip (http://home.cinci.rr.com/mike45069/WWHO-GG.mpg) from an HDTV broadcast of Gilmore Girls. It's only like half a second long, since I have a 5mb disk space limit, but it still gives me the problem. If you can't reproduce the bug, then I'll be quiet. :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
Hey, I've got a mystery bug. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I can't figure it out:


I'm aware of this mystery - now you know why we have a timeout for DGIndex operations :) I have now idea why this is happening though. I find it not to be reproducable in general: if you have a problem like this then running it several times in a row from one run of AutoGK usually doesn't help, but if you close and reopen AutoGK(or in fact other running apllication like explorer) then DGindex is able to work correctly again. This might be an issue with file/directory locking on windows level (i.e. for instance if you browsed the input/temp/output dir with windows explorer then it might have lock on it and DGIndex may have some issues opening files - if you look carefully the you'll see that in fact DGindex doesn't have any files open probably...)

[Carraway]

Originally posted by len0x
This might be an issue with file/directory locking on windows level

This is what it turned out to be. For whatever reason the folder where the ATI program saved its MPEG-2 streams had almost all the permissions removed. I don't know why it worked when I launched DGIndex versus when AutoGK launched it, but the problem is solved, so I don't care :)

Thanks len0x!

[len0x]

I changed a couple of applications: my compile of DGIndex and lame_enc.dll 3.96.1, so testing on those is required. This is the last week of testing before 1.85 stable is released (at some point next week).

[ma2trigk]

Is the new Surround (5.1) ability of MP3 planned to be icorporate in AutoGK ?
Thanks to the peop's from Down South for the last answer ;-)

[len0x]

I don't think so, I'd rather support 5ch AAC and MP4.

[JoeBG]

Originally posted by len0x
I don't think so, I'd rather support 5ch AAC and MP4.

Yes do it please. In the moment I produce AVI´s with Gordian Knot, AAC with BeSweet, Chapters with Nero Muxer, Subpictures (SRT) with SubRip and mux everything with mp4box. Would be nice to have more of this in Gordian Knot :)

[len0x]

I do have legal concerns though (about MP4 and AAC) - it seems that all the free tools have so many disclamers about its usage that I'm not sure that I would want to be under attack of commercial companies that seem to dominate MP4/AAC area.

[buzzqw]

even tried this (and is good) build http://psplab.csie.nctu.edu.tw/projects/index.pl/nctu-aac.html ?

I haven't found any discalimer about license. It is copyrighted but isn't specified anything about distribuiting

BHH

[mightyspawn]

Well i think have some problems with ripping subtitles.

I rip the DVD in ifo mode with the options that are in the manual.

Then i start rip the movie to xvid in AutoGK. I select all subtitles. When he he starts with ripping the subtitles, the sub file just stays 0kb. There is no error in the log file.

But i dont have this problem every time. And sometimes the subtitle files are ripped but corrupted. Because media player classic just quits after opening the file. And i tried opening the subtitle file with some directvobsub program, but then i also get an corrupt file error.

So i think something is going wrong during ripping, but what. Im jusing 1.80 beta.

Have this error with Band of Brothers DISC 1 episode 2, no problem with episode 1. With Blue Velvet. And many other dvd's. But also often it just works fine.

[mightyspawn]

With which program can i rip the subtitles into sub and idx files my own, and no not subrip.

update* Well i see for ripping subtitles you use rundll32 in combination with some dll file. Which one, and whic commando's can i use. Or is there a readme file somewhere.

[len0x]

Its VobSub and its dll (vobsub.dll). You can search subtitle forum for the syntax of parameter file supplied to it.

[Sharktooth]

Len0x, i just need a confirmation EQM V2 will be the sharp matrix in AutoGK so i can rename it to something like EQM_AutoGK_sharp.xcm

[len0x]

It will be for the time being. (Good marketing trick, btw :) )

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by len0x
(Good marketing trick, btw :) )
Naaa, it's not marketing, since i've got some spare time i decided to clean up things a bit.
I've also added the updates to my signature so the interested ppl will be sure to have the latest matrices version.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
I might be reading you wrong, but I thought that what actually bothers you is AutoGK's second pass setting that were to blame and not quality of 1.02 vs 1.1 (and that I do not understand).

So as far as I can see its no longer about AutoGK, but just XviD and indeed folks over at XviD forum should be able to answer your question there.

P.S. DRF doesn't tell you that much - do you see real difference in quality?

Sorry if I am late, but I had a hard time figuring how to answer.

AutoGk's second pass bothered me until I found a way to redo the second pass (in that same thread or a similar one) and experiment by myself. Conclusion: with my actual and very limited knowledge, I agree with you, AGK is not in cause and there does not seem to be any degradation caused by that behavior (0-1-0 instead of 10-1-20)

About the DRF I am no good at pictures looking and when I take snapshots I have no feedback so I will stay with the DRF which gives a frame quality ratio +and+ a viewing of the bitrate which was, is, still my concern.

Concerning the xvid forum, I will not query as I have seen that there seems to be no consequence of the intra-frame tuning on the global quality; actually I believe it is more the codec's behaviour in early stage that gave this difference compared to the 1.02; the new cvs are closing the gap: With the same input file, same settings for Koepi & Celtic builds, Xvid 1.02 had a DRF of 4.46, the 1.1 Koepi was 4.54, the last out Celtic_Druid is 4.49 (and faster), also has the DXN HT_PAL profile but no VBV checkbox.


Did

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
You didn't grasp what is it all about :)

and
Again, what is wrong with that? (we seem to be runing in circles here)

Me = Langage problem? dumb? or both? :(

I will not say "please excuse my crappy english" because it is what Jawor has in his signature but the result seems similar: please take into account my understanding difficulties.

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
AutoGk's second pass bothered me until I found a way to redo the second pass (in that same thread or a similar one) and experiment by myself. Conclusion: with my actual and very limited knowledge, I agree with you, AGK is not in cause and there does not seem to be any degradation caused by that behavior (0-1-0 instead of 10-1-20)


Well, I'm glad we're on the same page now. :)

[QNX]

strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?

[richarddd]

Originally posted by QNX
strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?

You might try the stable version of xvid and see if you have the same problem.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by QNX
strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming :confused:

can it happen cause of unstable xvid build or something?
What you mean with last? 1.03 or head?

[QNX]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
What you mean with last? 1.03 or head?
i mean http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ head :P

[shevegen]

I get an error: "avisynth open failure
script error: There is no function called WriteFile"

I must admit, Win XP on my laptop is quite a mess. Cant say where the error lies, but maybe someone more knowledgable can point me to the proper direction.

[len0x]

you don't have avisynth 2.5.5 installed

[QNX]

i still have sound mistiming ... tried last stable koepi's build :confused:

vob files are fine..

[Sharktooth]

Len0x VBV buffer is now controlled by xvid profiles (there are DXN profiles too) so maybe something has changed in the VBV settings in the registry...

[len0x]

I decided that I'm not gonna follow head development of XviD - only when 1.1 gets stable I'll add support for it.

[Sharktooth]

Wise choice... :)
BTW, there's an update in Xvid 1.0.x branch.
1.0.3 is out and there are celtic druid and koepi builds available.

Changelog (from koepi website):
- {xvidcore} Fixed trellis optimization overflow for quant <= 2.
- {xvidcore} Don't read too short streams. This prevents from reading useless stream garbage.
- {xvidcore} Fixed 64 bit crashes because of addressing assuming 32bit integers. (Andre Werthman)
- {xvidcore} Fixed 2 diamond search bugs (one was causing searches in wrong directions, the other one was causing an early exit)
- {VfW} Better stride calculation
- {DShow} Better stride calculation

[len0x]

Probably last version this year :)

[Sharktooth]

Does it include xvid 1.03 from koepi or celtic druid?

[len0x]

Always Koepi's :cool:

[BigDid]

Originally posted by BigDid
... With the same input file, same settings for Koepi & Celtic builds, Xvid 1.02 had a DRF of 4.46, the 1.1 Koepi was 4.54, the last out Celtic_Druid is 4.49 (and faster), also has the DXN HT_PAL profile but no VBV checkbox.

Same test file encoded with AGK 1.84 & Koepi Xvid 1.03 has a DRF of 4.43 (lower is better).
Viva Koepi ( a new 1.1 release with VBV checkbox please :D )

Did

[Sharktooth]

VBV is automatically enabled with profiles. No need for the checkbox.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
VBV is automatically enabled with profiles. No need for the checkbox.
You are right, thanks :)
/Edited: but would'nt a Koepi build be faster than Celtic's for AMD owners? (like for the 1.03)/

Did
/ ... while my guitar gently weeps .../

[Sharktooth]

Dunno... both use the same compilers... so, i wouldnt bet on one or another.

[evil ryu]

Why BeSweet and VirtualDubMod try to accees internet?
After an encode I found my firewall allerted me that this 2 programs, parts of autogk frontend, were trying to acces th net.
It's the first time it happens, I recently installed version 1.84b.


By the way, very good program Lenox.



Merry Christmas and happy new year to all members of this forum. :)

[len0x]

BeSweet doesn't really have an ability to connect to the internet. VDubMod can do that if a codec used (I'm only aware of DivX) is trying to check for updates over the internet. Ordinarily only AutoGK itself connects to the internet on startup if you selected "check for updates" option during installation (but not during encoding).

[Mouse]

len0x,

One question, if one choosed to autoupdate, and then after a while don't want this "pop-up" window asking for auto-update. How do i get rid of this? (bet it is in registry somehere, and i have looked, but not found it).

And one more thing. Make it easier for people to contribute with money (i will) by adding easy payment, like regsoft.com or something.
I find paypal most annoying and will rather send money in "snail-mail".

Merry Christmas to you, and keep up the fine job!

[BigDid]

Originally posted by Mouse
len0x,

One question, if one choosed to autoupdate, and then after a while don't want this "pop-up" window asking for auto-update. How do i get rid of this? (bet it is in registry somehere, and i have looked, but not found it)...

@ Mouse,

You can trash or move the .versioncheck file located in the AGK folder.

And a merry christmas to all :)

Did

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Is that possible to have 16:9 movie in 4:3 (with black border) with
permanent subtitle in the bottom, so the main movie is not contaminated with the subtitle which somehow looks ugly :(

Thank you.

[len0x]

I don't know - its a bad idea to keep black bars, but useful for subs though. I'll keep that in mind if I decide to work in that area (i.e. pan&scan etc...)

[Mouse]

Originally posted by len0x
I don't know - its a bad idea to keep black bars, but useful for subs though. I'll keep that in mind if I decide to wor in that area (i.e. pan&scan etc...)

Please deside, so i can pass Dr.DivX in trashcan :)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Thank you for your reply.
I'm waiting that feature in the future :)

[wirawan84]

*there are options in hidden options to disable autocrop and make subs down below, i take this from the tutorial
"-In this case "Tune auto crop parameters" is very handy. Threshold defines how sensitive auto crop will be: the higher the value the more cropping will be done. To completely disable audio crop you can set threshold to 0
-"Adjust Subs" option is very useful option and should be turned on most of the time if you're burning subtitles into resulting AVI. It places subs as low as possible in video frame and makes sure that font is not squashed vertically (I'm sure everyone is familiar with these problems)"

[techz]

Small question: Why does the new 1.84beta contain adware? Its mentioned in the new Doom9 AutoGK Guide.

And can AutoGK and GKNOT work on the same installation of XP without any conflicts?

thanks in advance

[len0x]

Originally posted by techz
Small question: Why does the new 1.84beta contain adware? Its mentioned in the new Doom9 AutoGK Guide.


Its being discussed here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056

Originally posted by techz
And can AutoGK and GKNOT work on the same installation of XP without any conflicts?


yes

[techz]

thanks len0x, as always a big help.

[Mouse]

Does anyone know what the minimum file must be, in order to get correct audio? What i mean is, when you make test-captures (MPEG2-DVD) that are smaller than ~5min-10min, and strip 1min sample from this, the audio gets screwed + the files gets undersized (i use 7mb for 1min samples).

It by default grabs the audio from the start -> +1min, no mather where you strip the sample from the 10min range (by maximize DGIndex and choose by index).

(using 1.84beta)

[len0x]

DGIndex is not really a good capture editing tool, so i suggest prepare all you samples with ProjectX before feeding into AutoGK.

P.S. Undersize is very frequent for small files (check logs to see if its expected).

[PlazzTT]

Another suggestion: Would it be a good idea to switch on the "Forced Subs" checkbox by default?

I don't know what it does exactly, but if it is switched off, does that mean that the AutoGK rip of, say "Kill Bill", would be without all of necessary subtitles for the Japanese parts?

The same goes for The Godfather Part 1. A recent rip I did of it was without the Italian translations, because they were forced subs on the DVD, which wasn't included in the XviD rip I made.

[richarddd]

You have to select a subtitle stream and select forced subs to get the forced sub stream. Just turning on forced subs without selecting a subtitle stream doesn't do anything.

[len0x]

It allows you to make manual cropping when threshold = 0 via four other parameters of autocrop's hidden option. I also did small refactoring for coming AVI support, so hopefully I didn't break anything.

[Hobojobo]

Manual cropping: good news.

In order to get (my) parameters for cropping, what do I have to do?
Do I have to stop the process after DGIndex has finished its project, and load it into VDMod...
Of course I can use GK.
I am looking for the easiest way. :D

Is there a chance that AutoGk gets a hidden window, displaying the video for manual cropping ?

Or is it a feature for the hidden option tool?

Anyhow, AutoGK rocks!!! :)

[SNP]

sorry for my ignorance, after reading the hidden_optioin.txt, what's mod4 number?
Also if I'm trying to stip a 16:9 outta it's 4:3 AR and the LRTB value in GK is 4,4,66,66; what would be the proper .autocrop value to disable auto-cropping and set the said numbers?

Thanks.

[riggits]

Why can't AutoGK (as of v1.85 beta) properly parse IFO files? I've backed up a zillion DVDs to my hard drive with DVDshrink, and all the files are there. The subdirectories are there too, however AutoGK is the only program I use that can't understand how to read a directory as input.
Any advice appreciated, as I would really like to try this program.
Thanks!

[ydobon]

Hi, riggits

Originally posted by riggits
Why can't AutoGK (as of v1.85 beta) properly parse IFO files? I've backed up a zillion DVDs to my hard drive with DVDshrink, [...]
This subject arises so frequently that has become "sticky":
Sticky: AutoGK, DVDDecrypter and other ripping methods (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=77941)

As for advice, burn (even to a virtual DVD) and re-rip in IFO mode.


Regards,

[len0x]

Originally posted by SNP
sorry for my ignorance, after reading the hidden_optioin.txt, what's mod4 number?
Also if I'm trying to stip a 16:9 outta it's 4:3 AR and the LRTB value in GK is 4,4,66,66; what would be the proper .autocrop value to disable auto-cropping and set the said numbers?


Mod4 means dividable by 4.
.autocrop will look like this in your case:

0
10
0
4,4,66,66

Note there might be more cropping done to preserve AR. In GK you have "Smart Crop All", so if you're using it to see cropping values do not use it but just "Pixel" mode (as resolution is not known at that stage and smart crop will be done by AutoGK itself).

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hobojobo
Is there a chance that AutoGk gets a hidden window, displaying the video for manual cropping ?


If at some point AutoGK assistant gets integrated into AutoGK and I feel like doing preview window inside, then yes. But its far too distant in the future.

P.S. About manual cropping - the feature I added was not to allow manual cropping but just possibility to correct autocrop, i.e. if you see in the preview that there are some parts of the movie that are not black bars that needs to be cropped then you just add them without disabling autocrop so that it crops more (those four crop values are for additional crop and only if threshold=0 then it becomes manual crop).

[digidragon]

Thank you len0x for adding some manual cropping control :)

:thanks:

[SNP]

Thanks len0x, yup those are Pixel mode values

[Exoskeletor]

riggits you can create an image using alcohol and then rip the dvd again with dvd decrypter in ifo mode

[riggits]

Thanks ydobon, Exoskeletor :D The sticky was quite informative, and I respect Len0x' decision.. of course I shall begin to wish for .d2v input ability next, but very quietly ;)

Now I have a further question, as I am finally capable of using AutoGK:
Doesn AutoGK use replaygain on the selected audio track before conversion to MP3? I'm testing now, but raised volume levels don't always imply replaygain... could be another, more clipping, gain method.

Thanks!

[Mnl]

@riggits:

The changelog for version 1.19 says:

1.19 beta

- fixed runtime 216 error for HT CPUs on startup
- forced subs are correctly displayed in the preview when selected
- changed normalized parameter of BeSweet to hybridgain again
- CTRL-F9 now launches Hidden Options tool if it resides in the same dir as AutoGK (plus current path is propagated to it - requires version 0.6+)

So it uses hybridgain. afaik this was suggested by DSPguru (dev. of Besweet). as far as i remember AutoGK used postgain before it was changed in favour of hybridgain.

[riggits]

Originally posted by Mnl
@riggits:

[.....]
So it uses hybridgain. afaik this was suggested by DSPguru (dev. of Besweet). as far as i remember AutoGK used postgain before it was changed in favour of hybridgain.

OK, I've noticed that a gain is applied during audio encoding... I must assume that it's a no-clipping gain, since the rest of this program is TOP notch!
Thanks Mn1 :D
Also thanks Len0x, for this superb tool! I've been using ARcalculator for so long, it's a real treat to have AutoGK do everything automatically :)

One observation: the Autocrop does not work on any anime I've tested; specifically, the Neon Genesis Evangelion series requires a ton of extra cropping at the sides before it's worth encoding..

[manono]

Hi-

You can confirm that there's no clipping by opening the MP3 in MP3Gain and doing a track analysis.

But from my experience, even a PostGain doesn't result in clipping. It's when you mess with the DRC that you have to watch out.

[Mouse]

And for some odd reason, DGINdex doesnt like MPEG2 DVD-streams captured from Digi-TV. Like i described earlier about that it grabs the audio from the very begining, it seeme to do this randomly on FULL-lenght streams i capture.

I'm not sure what couses this, but i think it is DGIndex, and it's lack of handle frame by frame, when it uses seconds by seconds, and therefor the audio gets corrupt when doing the "restore window + manualy set range ?

Can someone suggest a good program that can handle, load, MPEG2 DVD streams and cut out "unwanted" start + end + commercials, frame by frame.

I have tested : mpegshnitz, cuttermaran and a few others, none seeme to handle "direct load" of MPEG2 streams.

[eva618]

Will AutoGK support OGG encoding?

thank len0x

[len0x]

Originally posted by eva618
Will AutoGK support OGG encoding?


It needs to support other containers first...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
And for some odd reason, DGINdex doesnt like MPEG2 DVD-streams captured from Digi-TV. Like i described earlier about that it grabs the audio from the very begining, it seeme to do this randomly on FULL-lenght streams i capture.


It is good time to report this in DGIndex forum as DG is back!

[Mouse]

Will do len0x. While this is investigated i temp solved my problem by using Mpg2cut2 (freeware - search the forum) , instead of using the "range-method" in DGIndex. Works like a charm after that. Video and Audio seeme to be perfect in sync too. I'll do some further tests.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
Will do len0x.

Its better to post full description of the problem in DGIndex forum rather then link to this thread that is too difficult to navigate.

[therealjoeblow]

I think mono mp3 encoding is broken in the latest version. The last 2 movies I tried to encode with this option over the last few weeks come out with audio corrupted (it's nothing but static and squacks).

transcoding the .ac3 file seperately with besweet works fine, it has to be something that AutoGK is doing.

[len0x]

hm... may be lame_enc.dll 3.96.1 is at fault. Can you replace it with the one that comes with BeSweet 1.5b29 and report back please?

[dvd_maniac]

strange... i've encoded resident evil movie with autogk 1.83 and last xvid build from celtic_druid and i've got sound mistiming

I was wondering if anybody was successful on encoding this DVD? This and Little Black Book have been giving me problems. I even tried Nero Digital. I am sure it has something to do with new copy protection, but I have updated to latest DVDDecryptor build and rip seemed to be successful?

[rotvel]

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but please consider having a "keep original audio" option for the new M2 versions.

Regards /Max

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
hm... may be lame_enc.dll 3.96.1 is at fault. Can you replace it with the one that comes with BeSweet 1.5b29 and report back please?

Using lameenc.dll dated 8/8/2003 @ 2:59pm and the following command line produced the 'good' mono encode:

-azid( -s mono -L -3db ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -lame( -m m --abr 70 )

Gspot reports the 'bad' audio as stereo, as does the mp3 decoder:

Audio Codec............: 0x0055(MP3, ISO) MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Sample Rate......: 48000 Hz
Audio Bitrate..........: 61 kb/s VBR
Audio Channel Count....: 2 channel(s)

The 'good' one is correctly detected as mono (1 channel).

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Using lameenc.dll dated 8/8/2003 @ 2:59pm and the following command line produced the 'good' mono encode:


I'll put that version of LAME back then.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rotvel
Sorry if this has already been brought up, but please consider having a "keep original audio" option for the new M2 versions.


It is going to be a lot of stuff supporting AVI input. Audio part is the most tricky as it has to work the same way as for DVD (either leave AC3/DTS/MP3 or convers to MP3 from PCM/DTS/AC3).

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
... (either leave AC3/DTS/MP3 or convers to MP3 from PCM/DTS/AC3).

@Lenox

Exchanging about PCM, I don't know if it is AGK standard behaviour but got a 128 abr mp3 (80mb) out of a pcm to wav audio (975Mo) when keeping ac3/dts switch for a 1.1Gb final size. Its the Joe Cocker across midnight concert DVD stereo 1 audio track. :confused:
As a newby I remember not knowing what pcm quality was (high) and trusting AGK when using the ac3/dts for that occasion and for keeping quality ... :(
I manually (with Belight) tried the alt-preset-extreme mp3 settings to get about 230kbps vbr encode, 320 and 384 ac3 encodes. I finally decided to keep the 384 ac3 for 240 Mb. :)
Question: is 128 abr-mp3 not a little too low in quality? as it seems a feature of AGK, could you consider a 320 cbr mp3 instead of 128 abr mp3,so if users think its too much, they can downgrade to whatever abr mp3 smaller size (same reasoning apply when ac3 tracks are too big) ?

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
@Lenox

Exchanging about PCM, I don't know if it is AGK standard behaviour but got a 128 abr mp3 (80mb) out of a pcm to wav audio

FAQ Q 2.3

128 is enough for non-music DVDs. If you require more you can always do it via advanced settings.

[len0x]

All hidden options now have a GUI inside AutoGK (CTRL-F9). Please do a sanity check on them - there must be some bugs :) Also file mode needs to be tested since I have new audio type detection routine in place (its possible just use VOBs from any other ripper if you don't need subs and know exactly which track corresponds to which language from DVD).

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
FAQ Q 2.3

128 is enough for non-music DVDs. If you require more you can always do it via advanced settings.
I believe I missed my point which is about quality :(

I'll try to come back later on it. :cool:

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
I believe I missed my point which is about quality :(


you missed or I missed? :)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
you missed or I missed? :)
I confirm, your honour (french joke/saying; the original being: I plead culprit your honour);
I missed :)

It's about causes & consequences (and foreign langage btw):
I missed to elaborate my arguments (cause)
You made a reply based on your understanding of my point (consequence)

Your answer makes me think I missed my point about quality so I would like, once my arguments are clearer, to have a second chance elaborating on the subject :)

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Your answer makes me think I missed my point about quality so I would like, once my arguments are clearer, to have a second chance elaborating on the subject :)


While you're at thinking - movies usually have quite a bit of silence in them (or full of highly compressible material like human speech that doesn't have the whole frequency range), so spending 320kpbs on it seems to be a waste.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
(snip)

"All subs" option for subtitles appears to be gone now? It was there in v-1.84 this morning, I know that for sure. I can only choose individual subtitle streams with 1.86.

[MinosK]

I believe you can remove the Ctrl-F10 now that the second Audio track is always visible... :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
"All subs" option for subtitles appears to be gone now? It was there in v-1.84 this morning, I know that for sure. I can only choose individual subtitle streams with 1.86.

Its time to reread the FAQ - Q 3.7 :)

Is your mono MP3 problem solved, btw?

[len0x]

Originally posted by MinosK
I believe you can remove the Ctrl-F10 now that the second Audio track is always visible... :D

Yes, I was just being too careful to make sure everything works as expected before removing stuff.

[Mouse]

len0x, i have done massive tests today from captured MPEG-2 streams. None have failed so far. Looks like this version works perfect.

Thank you, thank you, and thank you!

[chilled]

got similar problems with mono enconding in previous versions (1.84 and 1.85 I think) of AGK so very interested in knowing if this has been solved. Cant try 1.86 myself at the moment.
PS: movies were spanish 70s ones but dvd sources indeed...

[Pyniok]

Hi,

My DVD is ripped to 'E:\wp\1.1'. So I run AutoGK, press CTRL-F9 and the path in AutoGK Assistant is 'E:\wp' instead of 'E:\wp\1.1'. All the files are saved in 'E:\wp' where there is no film.

Is this OK?

Pyniok

[len0x]

Which version of AutoGK are you talking about?

P.S. and no, its not OK...

[Pyniok]

The latest one, 1.86.

Originally posted by len0x
Which version of AutoGK are you talking about?

P.S. and no, its not OK...

[len0x]

OK, bug confirmed. For some reasons AutoGK doesn't like folders with extentions (I know why actually - it mistakes it for File mode)

[Subwars]

hey lenox i just went to download the new version and i'm getting

"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /download/AutoGordianKnot.1.86.beta.Update.exe on this server.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache/1.3.27 Server at len0x.btothec.com Port 80"


any ideas

oh and thats allso from all 3 mirrors

[Subwars]

theres no problem downloading the 1.60 version but can't get nothing from the 1.86 allso noted on the page where it has filesize it is saying it's 0

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Subwars
theres no problem downloading the 1.60 version but can't get nothing from the 1.86 allso noted on the page where it has filesize it is saying it's 0
There's nothing wrong with the AutoGk Website.
Just put your browser to default settings, mean don't kill or hide referrers and enable cookies. IE and Firefox will do.
The filesize shown is just a joke.
Just tested downloading a minute ago.

Cheers

Taurus

PS: This has been talked about a dozen times. Maybe search for it.

[mightyspawn]

Why do i get with 1.86beta lower final result then with 1.80b. I ripped a Band of Brothers episode late December. But i had to do this one again because in some way on the bottom left there was something wrong with the rip.

So i decided today to try it again with this latest 1.86 version.

I just used the same configuration for both rips then and now:

XVID
1/5 DVD 896MB
AC3 6 channel sound
Subtitle Dutch
AC3/DTS
External Subtitles

First rip was done with 1.80b and XVID 1.02 and the second with 1.86b and XVID 1.03

But the final result is with 1.80b 700x404 and with 1.86b 608*336 resolution

And yes that makes a whole different, there is a lot more detail in the rip with the higher resolution

Here are the log files, first 1.80b and then 1.86b
--------------------------------------------------------------------
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] AutoGK 1.80b
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Job started.
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Input dir: D:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Output file: E:\bob\2\part2.avi
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Audio: English
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Subtitles: none
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Codec: XviD
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Target size: 896Mb
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Custom audio settings: AC3
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Started encoding.
[18-12-2004 21:20:19] Demuxing and indexing.
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Processing file: D:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_1.VOB
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Processing file: D:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_2.VOB
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Processing file: D:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_3.VOB
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Source resolution: 720x576
[18-12-2004 21:21:04] Found PAL source.
[18-12-2004 21:21:05] Analyzing source.
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 3,32
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Found 74981 frames
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Audio size: 143,963,136 bytes (137.29 Mb)
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Overhead: 499,840 bytes (0.48 Mb)
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Video size: 795,061,120 bytes (758.23 Mb)
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Running compressibility test.
[18-12-2004 21:23:09] Writing the following script to E:\bob\2\agk_tmp\part2_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\bob\2\agk_tmp\part2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Duration was: 3 minutes 10 seconds
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Speed was: 19,72 fps.
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Compressibility percentage is: 52,83
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Using softer matrix.
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Chosen resolution is: 704x400 ( AR: 1,76 )
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Predicted comptest value is: 71,29
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Running first pass.
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Writing the following script to E:\bob\2\agk_tmp\part2_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("H:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\bob\2\agk_tmp\part2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[18-12-2004 21:59:17] Duration was: 32 minutes 58 seconds
[18-12-2004 21:59:17] Speed was: 37,91 fps.
[18-12-2004 21:59:17] Expected quality of first pass size: 66,74
[18-12-2004 21:59:17] Running second pass.
[18-12-2004 22:50:14] Duration was: 50 minutes 56 seconds
[18-12-2004 22:50:14] Speed was: 24,53 fps.
[18-12-2004 22:50:14] Job finished.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

LOG 1.86b

[15-1-2005 19:55:07] AutoGK 1.86b
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Job started.
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Input dir: J:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Output file: G:\bob\2\j\2.avi
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Audio: English
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Subtitles: Nederlands : Wide/Letterbox
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Codec: XviD
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Target size: 896Mb
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Custom audio settings: AC3
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Started encoding.
[15-1-2005 19:55:07] Demuxing and indexing.
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Processing file: J:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_1.VOB
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Processing file: J:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_2.VOB
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Processing file: J:\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC1\2\VTS_01_PGC_02_3.VOB
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Source resolution: 720x576
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Found PAL source.
[15-1-2005 19:55:53] Analyzing source.
[15-1-2005 19:58:16] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 3,32
[15-1-2005 19:58:16] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[15-1-2005 19:58:16] Found 74981 frames
[15-1-2005 19:58:16] Preparing subtitles.
[15-1-2005 19:59:04] Compressing subtitles.
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Audio size: 143,963,136 bytes (137.29 Mb)
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Overhead: 499,840 bytes (0.48 Mb)
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Subtitles size: 278,722 bytes (0.27 Mb)
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Video size: 794,782,398 bytes (757.96 Mb)
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Running compressibility test.
[15-1-2005 19:59:05] Writing the following script to G:\bob\2\j\agk_tmp\2_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\bob\2\j\agk_tmp\2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Duration was: 3 minutes 31 seconds
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Speed was: 17,73 fps.
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Compressibility percentage is: 53,79
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Chosen resolution is: 608x352 ( AR: 1,73 )
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Predicted comptest value is: 70,77
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Running first pass.
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Writing the following script to G:\bob\2\j\agk_tmp\2_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\bob\2\j\agk_tmp\2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[15-1-2005 20:33:10] Duration was: 30 minutes 32 seconds
[15-1-2005 20:33:10] Speed was: 40,91 fps.
[15-1-2005 20:33:10] Expected quality of first pass size: 68,95
[15-1-2005 20:33:10] Running second pass.
[15-1-2005 21:15:56] Duration was: 42 minutes 45 seconds
[15-1-2005 21:15:56] Speed was: 29,22 fps.
[15-1-2005 21:15:56] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 20 minutes 49 seconds
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Then i thought maybe 1.80b did something wrong then, so i decided to uninstall AUTOGK 1.86 and XVID, and installed the previous version 1.80b with XVID 1.02. And i did the rip and the result is again like the first time 700*404

Band of Brothers exists out of 10 episoded, i ripped only the first 6 yet with 1.80b, they are all around 700*400, today i tried episode 2,7&8 with 1.86b and they all get results around 600*330

I dont know if anything is wrong. Or maybe I'm the problem :P

[mightyspawn]

OK, i know what is the "problem", it is XVID 1.0.3

Tried 1.80b with XVID 1.0.3 and the resolution becomes 608x352

Well it will be ok i think.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by mightyspawn
Why do i get with 1.86beta lower final result then with 1.80b.

[18-12-2004 21:20:19] AutoGK 1.80b
.....
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Compressibility percentage is: 52,83
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Using softer matrix.
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Chosen resolution is: 704x400 ( AR: 1,76 )
[18-12-2004 21:26:19] Predicted comptest value is: 71,29

[15-1-2005 19:55:07] AutoGK 1.86b
......
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Compressibility percentage is: 53,79
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Chosen resolution is: 608x352 ( AR: 1,73 )
[15-1-2005 20:02:37] Predicted comptest value is: 70,77

Hi mightyspawn,
I don't know if big differences between xvid 1.02 & 1.03, I have no problem with 1.03.
The difference in your 2 logs are use of softmatrix for 1.80b and use of sharpmatrix for 1.86b(nothing mentionned means sharpmatrix used). I usually aim for the use of the sharpmatrix so have a close look between the 2 encodes and see if the 1.86 is sharper with more details.
If interested different resolutions and matrix where discussed here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87744
:)
/Edited : Using Xvid 1.03 with 1.80b resulting in lower resolution +and+ sharper matrix are good news for me/

Did

[mightyspawn]

But the results are not better with lower resolution, in my eyes just worse.

[len0x]

AutoGK's resizing algorithm is very adaptive, so when it tries to cross 608 width border it switches matrix that obviously allows higher resoltion within the same compresibility value. So 1-2% difference between 1.0.2 and 1.0.3 does this for you.

Band of Brothers is a very tough source. It has lost of noise in it, so soft matrix may be of some help in this case as it removes grain (along with details though). Its a personal taste really, but you can always reencode it with fixed high resolution so that soft matrix is used even with 1.0.3.

[CeeJay.dk]

With XviD 1.1.0-beta1 out (and reports that its very stable) , I wonder how long it will take for AutoGK to support it ?

[len0x]

not before RC1 is out.

[len0x]

I was hoping to have it as a RC1 for 1.90 stable, but then I got into audio part, so another beta will be probably out with bugfixes in that area.

Anyway, to avoid problems with joint stereo, resampling, mono and compatibility issues between BeSweet(that doesn't seem to be developed actively anymore) and newer LAME versions I decided to try alternative route and replaced it with Azid/normalize/Lame combo. Please test.

P.S. I tried to duplicate the behaviour of "-ota( hybridgain )" option of BeSweet as close as possible. DPLii as well as dialog normalization is ON for multichannel sources, otherwise its OFF. Normalization is done upto 100% via normalize.exe. There should not be any problem with mono encodes as well.

[ydobon]

Hi, Len0x.

Originally posted by len0x
[...] I decided to try alternative route and replaced it with Azid/normalize/Lame combo. Please test.
No problems with mp2 audio. I tested transport and program streams with two audio tracks.

Regards,

[riggits]

Hi guys, I'm having a heck of a time trying to get the autocrop to work right.
First, the default autocrop doesn't work on my source. I end up with giant black bars on either side. The source is correctly detected as 4:3 aspect ratio, so things still "look OK" but with extra black on the sides.
If I enter the actual crop values in the Ctrl-F9 window, they seem to "add" to autocrop's own decided values, so it crops WAY MORE than what I enter.
I've adjusted the start value to a noise-free part of the movie, but still no luck. I've also told it to sample 400 frames, but it always gives me too little cropping (about 20 black pixels on each side).
So I googled and searched the forums, but there's NO information about autocrop's "threshold" and what values make it less discriminating or more sensitive or whatever threshold actually does.
Does anybody know how to either:
1) override autocrop to make it ONLY use the values I specify (WITHOUT adding to my values),
or
2) get autocrop to do a better job of autocropping an anime source. It has to be less sensitive to noise in the black bars on either side of the picture.

EDIT: aha!! It's not solely the autocrop at fault here - the picture aspect ratio is incorrectly detected. AutoGK thinks it's cropping and resizing correctly, but it's not. Looking into it now...

[BigDid]

:)
Thanks for the audios evolution, will test asap.

Did

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
...Anyway, to avoid problems with joint stereo, resampling, mono and compatibility issues between BeSweet(that doesn't seem to be developed actively anymore) and newer LAME versions I decided to try alternative route and replaced it with Azid/normalize/Lame combo. Please test...
Tested audio MP3 ABR 144, joint stereo for a 2h10 movie
Old way with Besweet: 11mn, quality (with enc spot) 57%, bitrate 145 kbps
New way Azid/Normalize/Lame: 14 mn, quality 58%, bitrate 144 kbps

You get more info from the new way than from the Besweet (Dos windows)
Don't forget to delete your AGK folder afterwards as it will also contain a huge .wav file (1,40 Gb in this case)
:)

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
You get more info from the new way than from the Besweet (Dos windows)


yes, but they don't leave logs unfortunately...

Originally posted by BigDid
Don't forget to delete your AGK folder afterwards as it will also contain a huge .wav file (1,40 Gb in this case) :)


Its probably good idea to automatically delete WAV file after MP3 endcode. Total removal of agk_tmp folder will probably be controlled via hidden option later on.

[buk]

Hi Guys,
I suggest a secure deleting/wiping e.g. 7 or 3 pass US DoD 5220.22-M. Excelent program is e.g. Eraser.

Have a nice day

buk

[len0x]

Secure deteting of what?

[buk]

I mean secure deleting of logs and files created by AutoGK, except the created movie and external subtitles. Maybe .VOB and other DVD files too. Just for secure cleaning computer.

buk

[chilled]

deleting WAV file before 1st pass is definately imperative. I suggest you implement that ASAP!
I dont like the hidden option you sugest (deleting temp folder) because it will cause many users to choose it and getting angry when encoding goes wrong (or just not as they expected), which is something which ocurrs frequently (its not an AGK problem...). I think AVS file, mp3 size and many other are valuable infos when things dont go as they should.

[len0x]

jeez - this thread got over 1 million views! :)

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
jeez - this thread got over 1 million views! :)
Maybe time for an e-interview :)

Questions like; Mr Lenox,
What do you like/dislike in programming, AGK, GK, GPL etc...
What future do you want/expect for video, video-compression, audio, fair-use, Standalone players etc...
One final word?
Thank you for your time, read you at 2 millions view
:)

Did

[len0x]

You know some polish video site actually did a small interview with me a couple of months back :)

[Pyniok]

It is in polish, but very interesting. ;-)

http://divx.howto.pl/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1182

Originally posted by len0x
You know some polish video site actually did a small interview with me a couple of months back :)

[len0x]

Nothing major, but DGIndex is updated so less problems with TS expected.

[kilivipin]

The .wav removal is great, seeing as I always end up doing that to save space.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
yes, but they don't leave logs unfortunately...



Its probably good idea to automatically delete WAV file after MP3 endcode. Total removal of agk_tmp folder will probably be controlled via hidden option later on.

Just my $0.02, but I'd prefer deleting the wav file to be optional. I often convert audio to Vorbis with OggDropXPD, and it can only use WAV as input, not demuxed AC3, so I'd have to extract audio manually again after AutoGK finishes it's job, a waste of time. If it's optional, then everyone can choose their preference.

[len0x]

Condidering that previously WAV file was never there - no one is loosing anything :)

[Christos]

I 've been using AutoGK for quite some time now and I must say it's Great. A million thanks to len0x, you are doing a great job.
When trying to install the latest beta versions however I always get a virus warning. The installer unpacks a temporary file called "dae.exe" which my antivirus (Avast Home) recognises as a virus("Win32:Adhelper [Adw]"). If I delete it and continue with the installation everything is OK.
What's the purpose of this file?
Does anyone else have this problem?

EDIT:Sorry, already discussed...

[Sharktooth]

This has been already discussed to death...
The thread is even in the main autogk dev forum.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056

next time :search:

[Christos]

Well I must say am very surprised...
Len0x has gone BAD!!! :)
I see he even changed his avatar...
He is "In charge" now.
Good for him. He has every right to be "In charge" (or think he is).
What surprises me even more is that I missed this thread, so I can assume others have too.
So on a second thought and after reading the thread am not sorry I posted. In fact am glad. Maybe someone else reading this thread will know what changed without being mentioned in the changelog.

[AlmanNewfred]

This fix for videos DGMPGDec decodes with the wrong AR does not work with AGK 1.88:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77780&highlight=aspect+ratio

I don't know how many versions of AGK this occurs with.

[len0x]

Why???

*Edit* Actually I know why - DGIndex 1.1.0 now always exits if you abort the operation.

[Chaser]

Hi len0x!

Thanks for your really great work! Here are two little suggestions:

1. Add a parting line between finished jobs. For example with "-"s. (after such a line: "[25.01.2005 08:16:24] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 42 minutes 31 seconds")

2. Add the possibility to unlock the Textbox for the "Output File". I'm just ripping several seasons serial and it's taking much time to get to the directory by dirlistbox. The same would also be nice at the input directory. You though have to take care, wether it really contains the needed ifos (could be checked on "lost_focus").

If you don't want those boxes to be editable, what about a checkbox in the hidden options?

Thanks for taking my suggestions in consideration!

Chaser

[len0x]

1. should be no problem

2. its is long running feature request, that I'm very reluctant to implement as it is much more convenient for me to have it as it is (I have several pages of code running when you select input dir even before it gets written to the edit box). And it will be very confusing for lots of users if "focus lost" is used as you'll be unable to add the job until you click some place else (its almost worth having additional "parse" button, but not really).

[Chaser]

Thank your for implementing the first one ;)

I don't know, what you check 2 pages long?! Especially in the outputfilename? Moreover I don't know how eager you are at the moment to change such things. What about writing into the outputfilname-textbox not a blank string, though something like "Input-Dir" & "Encoded.avi". So you don't have to go through in my case i think 5 subfolders started at the desktop. doing this way you could choose after taht another filename then encoded.avi. the advantage would be you are already in the near environment of the wished folder.

i just saw, that if "file input" is choosen it automatically writes the outputfilname (this is good, as it is).

sorry for my bad english - i am in a hurry...

[len0x]

Default naming of output file in DVD mode was discussed before, but no agreement on what it should be was reached. (My suggestion was foldername.avi in the input folder).

[Chaser]

So it was completely disabled.. In my opinion not a suitable result. Cause for those, who don't like the new name a single click brings them back to the Desktop (where the dir/filelistbox starts right now). As it is now in my case i have to go through 5 folders?! There doesn't have to be a name. Just the original start shouldn't be the dekstop in my opinion. there are many possibilities to deal with this. Perhaps an hidden option? That decision lies on you! (sorry didn't read all those 160+ pages, though i followed the development for quite a long time).

[len0x]

If you're using latest AutoGK then:
- Directory browser starts in My Computer only the first time after AutoGK is started. Then it uses last selected dir.
- File browser always starts in in the input directory.

I think its very acceptable behaviour.

[Chaser]

Ok - so I have to accept your decision to not implement the editability of the textbox.

[len0x]

the only help in your situation I can offer is to remember last selected dir across AutoGK's runs.

[Chaser]

Originally posted by len0x
the only help in your situation I can offer is to remember last selected dir across AutoGK's runs.

Event that would be very kind of you!

I think, I've spammed to this thread for now :/

[len0x]

I did the following - last selected directory is remembered and moreover if its not there (i.e. deleted) its parent dir is used.

[len0x]

Well, still managed to improve on what could have been a stable version by now :) There is probably nothing left to do before stable release...

[musicnyman]

the last remembered directory is very useful to me as well. thanks!

[Chaser]

Originally posted by len0x
I did the following - last selected directory is remembered and moreover if its not there (i.e. deleted) its parent dir is used.

Thank you very much! - I think, this is suitable for most people. :)

[chilled]

I think it would be important to know if mono encoding issues are solved before stable release is out.
I remember 2 or 3 threads reporting problems with mono vbr encoding, specially at lower bitrates. If anyone can repport at least 1 or 2 tests I would not be the only one to be thankful.
i.e. ac3 2.0 --> mp3 vbr 96 mono
ac3 1.0 --> mp3 vbr 80 mono
:)

[len0x]

How hard is to test it yourself? 5 min max on a test chapter...

[chilled]

...oops I forgot to mention that im accessing internet throught an old imac without admin privileges and will do for the next months!
I did use/test agk in the past and me (and others) got trouble encoding mono mp3 with betas around 1.86 or so. The problem has not been discussed since that version and thefore I (we) dont know if the issue persist.

[Chaser]

[02.02.2005 20:41:40] AutoGK 1.89b
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Job started.
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Input dir: J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\F02
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Output file: J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\02.avi
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Audio: Deutsch
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Audio2: English
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Subtitles: none
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Codec: XviD
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Target size: 200Mb
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 96Kbps
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Started encoding.
[02.02.2005 20:41:40] Demuxing and indexing.
[02.02.2005 20:44:55] Processing file: J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\F02\VTS_02_PGC_01_1.VOB
[02.02.2005 20:44:55] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[02.02.2005 20:44:55] Source resolution: 720x576
[02.02.2005 20:44:55] Found PAL source.
[02.02.2005 20:44:55] Analyzing source.
[02.02.2005 20:48:23] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[02.02.2005 20:48:23] Source is considered to be progressive.
[02.02.2005 20:48:23] Output will contain 63661 frames
[02.02.2005 20:48:23] Encoding audio.
[02.02.2005 20:49:27] Encoding second audio.
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Audio size: 32,768 bytes (0.03 Mb)
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Audio 2 size: 0 bytes (0.00 Mb)
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Overhead: 2,546,432 bytes (2.43 Mb)
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Video size: 207,136,000 bytes (197.54 Mb)
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Running compressibility test.
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Writing the following script to J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\agk_tmp\02_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\agk_tmp\02.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Duration was: 3 minutes 32 seconds
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Speed was: 14,97 fps.
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Compressibility percentage is: 42,08
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Using softer resizer.
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Chosen resolution is: 560x320 ( AR: 1,75 )
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Predicted comptest value is: 57,85
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Running first pass.
[02.02.2005 20:54:24] Writing the following script to J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\agk_tmp\02_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("J:\Video\Serien\Stargate - Season 2\agk_tmp\02.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 560
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[02.02.2005 21:32:37] Duration was: 38 minutes 12 seconds
[02.02.2005 21:32:37] Speed was: 27,77 fps.
[02.02.2005 21:32:37] Expected quality of first pass size: 62,68
[02.02.2005 21:32:37] Running second pass.
[02.02.2005 21:32:46] Duration was: 8 seconds
[02.02.2005 21:32:46] Speed was: 7448,34 fps.
[02.02.2005 21:32:46] Job finished. Total time: 51 minutes 6 seconds



the second pass canceled after 8 seconds. there was an error message of virtual dub. i, however, accidently clicked it away :/

[len0x]

Originally posted by Chaser
the second pass canceled after 8 seconds. there was an error message of virtual dub. i, however, accidently clicked it away :/

What do you expect then? :) Try again and report back.

[Chaser]

now I'm really pissed *grml* :scared:

edit: do you see my attached picture?
"The function SetMode was called on a stram[?] that hasn't been previously initialized with SetSource."

[Taurus]

@ Chaser:
Did you see this in your log file:

[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Audio size: 32,768 bytes (0.03 Mb)
[02.02.2005 20:50:51] Audio 2 size: 0 bytes (0.00 Mb)

I guess your rip is burked.
If you play the ripped vob, is there any sound in both audio tracks you choose?
There should be two ac3 files, german and english in your working dir.
Do they play ok?
Too little information....

Cheers

Taurus

[Chaser]

Didn't delete my vobs, however retried using version 1.86b. everything went fine on two episodes, so i guess the newest version has a bug!

[len0x]

What audio files (and of what size) do you see in the agk_tmp dir after audio processing is finished with new version? Can you also try putting DGMPGdec version 1.0.12 (from here: http://www.neuron2.net/fixd2v/decodefix.html ) and retry encoding please (just audio phase is fine).

[Chaser]

:/ that will be hard. going to be skiing from tomorrow to tuesday. since i'm going to bed now, i have to see, wether i manage to have a look into this tomorrow morning.

[Chaser]

with newest version and by the setup delivered dgmpgdec. still encoding - however have to go now..

edit: ac3 and mp3 are both playing in a player... (tested with VLC)

[len0x]

I think encode above will finish fine as file sizes seem to be ok. Too bad you're gone - I don't quite get what's the difference to your previous failed attempt (is it DGIndex 1.0.12?) when you had 0 length files?

[Chaser]

it's very strange indeed. i however encoded the third episode this time and as you said - it worked flawlessly.

the first (!!) episode failed two times. i was running all of my tries with dgindex ver 1.1.0 - haven't testet the new one.

unfortunatelly i'm gone in half an hour - so no time to rerip the first episode from the dvd and reencode it :/

[len0x]

I'm gonna put 1.0.12 back just in case... More testing next week then.

[mightyspawn]

i just wondered when will 1.90 be released?

[len0x]

1.90 will still be beta and will be out early next week.

[mightyspawn]

ah ok, when will there be a stable version, not that i dont like 1.89 hehe. but is just wondered.

[len0x]

Dunno yet, I have some stuff to do now as DGMPGDec is updated heavily...

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Well, d2v file says 98.7% film and threshold in autogk to make it FF is 99%, so it just missed the cut :) I can see that only ending of the movie has NTSC source, so if you look at it with FF option on, then you should see pretty heavy shuttering, but if that's credits then it probably won't bother you. I can reduce threshold to say 98.5%, so that your source would get FF automatically (have you seen any other moview like this?).

Found another one - It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World - 1963.

d2v found it as 98.1% film and so AutoGK used decomb which again caused the shimmering vertical blind effect.

[Chaser]

I'm back.

Will try to encode the first episode again (where the crash occured) with all components delivered by setup.

[manono]

Hi-

d2v found it as 98.1% film and so AutoGK used decomb which again caused the shimmering vertical blind effect.

Joe, have you checked the source to make sure it's not in there? After checking a number of DVD reviews for Mad World, some of them do mention aliasing and line jitter as problems with this transfer. Downsizing might accentuate the problem, although I don't know what resolution you used.

It's also possible that Decomb's deinterlacer is kicking in when it shouldn't, and is deinterlacing good frames. If you still have the files, you could add Show=True to Telecide (see the Decomb manual) to see if some of these places are being detected as interlaced. One solution is to raise the VThresh. Personally, I think the default is too low, and it frequently deinterlaces when it shouldn't, creating the kind of shimmering that you're noticing. A better solution, perhaps, is to disable the deinterlacer completely in cases where you have high percentage numbers in the Movie.d2v (add Post=0 to Telecide). That will have the added benefit of speeding up the encoding considerably.

You seem to be asking len0x to lower the percentage point at which ForceFILM is used, but I wouldn't recommend that. Although in your case it may have worked to create a jitter free, interlacing free encode (and maybe not), I've seen far too many cases where ForceFILMing with high percentages leaves behind interlaced frames. Quite often, particularly with older DVDs, such as this one, you'll get a drop to video at certain places, particularly at chapter breaks, and ForceFILM can leave behind interlacing at these places. To confirm or refute this, you can check the Movie.d2v and see if you get a string of 2 2 2 2, or 0 0 0 0 in various places in the middle of the film, as opposed to the very beginning or the very end. They may look something like this:

12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12

instead of this (as it should):

10 11 12 13 10 11 12 13

[somebody123]

hello..
I read this in the FAQ sticky:
5.4 Will AutoGK support other input materials (AVI, MPG etc)?
- at the moment there is no immediate plans to support AVI and MPEG1 sources. But MPEG2 sources (including transport streams) and pure VOBs are supported starting from version 1.41 (File mode) *Update* The work is currently being done to support DV/AVI file input.

Any idea when it'll be available?
Will it be on the 1.90 beta?
Thanks.

[len0x]

Its not gonna be available in 1.90. Be patient.

[len0x]

Thanks to ydobon we have slightly improved look :) A couple of nasty bugs fixed (in TS and win9x support) plus a useful new feature: color correction using ColorMatrix plugin. Check it out.

[richarddd]

When installing a new beta version, should we completely uninstall old versions, or can we just install on top of the old?

Sorry if I've missed a post on this.

[len0x]

Update can always be installed over the old version. If full installer ever requires uninstall of the previous version then you will see that upon launch.

[pop]

AG 1.90 beta
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal 5.0.227

An infected object detected.
C:\windows\system32\dae.dll
not-a-virus:AdWare.AdHelper.a

Delete this file?

[Carraway]

Originally posted by pop
AG 1.90 beta
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal 5.0.227

An infected object detected.
C:\windows\system32\dae.dll
not-a-virus:AdWare.AdHelper.a

Delete this file?

It's adware/spyware that len0x has included with the program since version 1.81b. It's intended as an alternative to the donation system and RESPONSETARGET is compensating len0x in exchange for the privacy of his users. A few things:

1) It's safe to delete
2) AutoGK will run normally without it
3) If you choose to keep it, it will periodically pop up advertisements, as well as forward your web activity to dae.responsetarget.com (IE only).

More info in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056).

[Ogig]

Originally posted by len0x
Thanks to ydobon we have slightly improved look :)

The looks have improved 100% with my 16bit color display. It looks so slick now! :cool: Thanks.

[Mouse]

About time i pay for this fine software - fee guilty for using it complete free of charge ;)

len0x, is there a way to "toss over a few dollar" other than pay pal? (i don't own a credit-card)

[len0x]

May be I should set up Kagi account then...

[Exoskeletor]

Len0x the "check for update" function was not working on the 0,88 and 0,89 versions

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by manono
Hi-

d2v found it as 98.1% film and so AutoGK used decomb which again caused the shimmering vertical blind effect.

Joe, have you checked the source to make sure it's not in there? After checking a number of DVD reviews for Mad World, some of them do mention aliasing and line jitter as problems with this transfer. Downsizing might accentuate the problem, although I don't know what resolution you used.

It's also possible that Decomb's deinterlacer is kicking in when it shouldn't, and is deinterlacing good frames. If you still have the files, you could add Show=True to Telecide (see the Decomb manual) to see if some of these places are being detected as interlaced. One solution is to raise the VThresh. Personally, I think the default is too low, and it frequently deinterlaces when it shouldn't, creating the kind of shimmering that you're noticing. A better solution, perhaps, is to disable the deinterlacer completely in cases where you have high percentage numbers in the Movie.d2v (add Post=0 to Telecide). That will have the added benefit of speeding up the encoding considerably.

You seem to be asking len0x to lower the percentage point at which ForceFILM is used, but I wouldn't recommend that.


-> No, I'm not - I use the 'maximize dgindex, stop it, load another instance, and overwrite the project using forcefilm' trick when this happens - I was just answering len0x's question - "have you seen other movies like this"

What this particular movie has is the first 5 or 6 minutes are a bright red cartoon-type intro with credits before it turns into the actual film/movie. Not a big deal. This was the same problem with the previously reported movie, except in that case the cartoon-like credits were at the end.

It would be nice if the algorithm could detect when the overall %film was thrown below the threshold because of one large block like in these 2 cases, and make an intelligent decision to override and consider the whole thing film. Kind of like this logic:

[if bunch of non-film at beginning or end] and [all film in middle] then [consider whole thing film with stupid intro or end credits]

;-)



Although in your case it may have worked to create a jitter free, interlacing free encode (and maybe not), I've seen far too many cases where ForceFILMing with high percentages leaves behind interlaced frames. Quite often, particularly with older DVDs, such as this one, you'll get a drop to video at certain places, particularly at chapter breaks, and ForceFILM can leave behind interlacing at these places. To confirm or refute this, you can check the Movie.d2v and see if you get a string of 2 2 2 2, or 0 0 0 0 in various places in the middle of the film, as opposed to the very beginning or the very end. They may look something like this:

12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12

instead of this (as it should):

10 11 12 13 10 11 12 13

[fewtch]

Originally posted by len0x
May be I should set up Kagi account then...
If you do, I will donate something (my Paypal acct. is blocked due to a bad buyer on eBay causing me trouble).

[Carraway]

Originally posted by Mouse
About time i pay for this fine software - fee guilty for using it complete free of charge ;)

len0x, is there a way to "toss over a few dollar" other than pay pal? (i don't own a credit-card)

The beauty of the adware is that you no longer have to feel bad about not donating, because by simply downloading the program you are providing len0x with income. The donation system was not quite working as expected (len0x's words (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=587508&highlight=its+not+quite+working+as+expected#post587508)), but now that len0x has struck a deal with RESPONSETARGET advertising, len0x is making money without having to resort to donations.

It's commercial software without charging for it. So much like people feel no compulsion to donate to commercial television channels like ABC, NBC or CBS (etc.) simply because they watch them, AutoGK is now funded by advertising dollars, and is no longer beholden to donations.

AutoGK is, however, entirely powered by a vast (http://www.virtualdub.org/donation) array (http://www.gabest.org/) of (http://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=65889) free, open-source (http://www.neuron2.net) programs (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avisynth2) which receive no percentage of those advertising dollars so you might consider donating to one of those projects.

Having said all that, len0x will gladly take your money. I'm merely saying you should no longer feel bad for not donating, because just by simply using the program you are helping len0x out.

[len0x]

Again, this is not the place to discuss adware stuff. It will be considered OT and will be dealt appropriately with.

P.S. When adware actually starts working and I actually get some money from it I'll be telling ppl not to bother with donations myself. Until then all the gestures are appreciated.

[bourtzovlakas]

Originally posted by len0x
P.S. When adware actually starts working and I actually get some money from it I'll be telling ppl not to bother with donations myself. Until then all the gestures are appreciated.

When this happens,will AutoGK work properly when DAE is removed?

[len0x]

yes

[len0x]

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
Len0x the "check for update" function was not working on the 0,88 and 0,89 versions

Really? I does for me here...
Ah, its locale settings. Fixed.

[MrFaust]

I've been using beta 1.90b for the past few days doing some test encodes of some tv episodes. I'm using the divx codec instead of the xvid codec in these tests. I chose custom size settings for output. When I dictate for the file to be 700mb it comes out to 717mb. 350mb comes out to 358mb. 195mb comes out to 199mb. didn't know if anyone else is having this problem.

Thanks.

[len0x]

Please post one of such log files (I might have an idea about what's wrong with divx encodings).

[MrFaust]

[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] AutoGK 1.90b
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Job started.
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Input dir: E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\10-350
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Output file: E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\miami.vice.s01e10.dvdrip.divx.avi
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Audio: English
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Subtitles: none
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Codec: DivX
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Target size: 350Mb
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Started encoding.
[2/12/2005 11:25:11 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Processing file: E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\10-350\VTS_01_1.VOB
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Processing file: E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\10-350\VTS_01_2.VOB
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Found NTSC source.
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Color correction enabled.
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Output will contain 70119 frames
[2/12/2005 11:26:03 AM] Encoding audio.
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Using bitrate spikes control.
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Audio size: 47,231,856 bytes (45.04 Mb)
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Overhead: 4,525,568 bytes (4.32 Mb)
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Video size: 315,244,176 bytes (300.64 Mb)
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Target bitrate is: 862kbps
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Running compressibility test.
[2/12/2005 11:31:21 AM] Writing the following script to E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\agk_tmp\miami.vice.s01e10.dvdrip.divx_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\agk_tmp\miami.vice.s01e10.dvdrip.divx.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Duration was: 2 minutes 39 seconds
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Speed was: 21.92 fps.
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 31.12
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Using softer resizer.
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Chosen resolution is: 464x352 ( AR: 1.32 )
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 62.80
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Running first pass.
[2/12/2005 11:34:01 AM] Writing the following script to E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\agk_tmp\miami.vice.s01e10.dvdrip.divx_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\agk_tmp\miami.vice.s01e10.dvdrip.divx.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 464
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2/12/2005 12:01:07 PM] Duration was: 27 minutes 5 seconds
[2/12/2005 12:01:08 PM] Speed was: 43.14 fps.
[2/12/2005 12:01:08 PM] Running second pass.
[2/12/2005 12:29:31 PM] Duration was: 28 minutes 21 seconds
[2/12/2005 12:29:31 PM] Speed was: 41.20 fps.
[2/12/2005 12:29:31 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 4 minutes 20 seconds

[len0x]

OK, now open _movie.avs file from agk_tmp dir in vdubmod and check how many frames are in there (File->Information).

P.S. I hope you're not using latest alpha/beta version of DivX?

[MrFaust]

I'm using Version 5.2.1 of the Divx codec. Is there another one that I should be using instead? Normally I would encode to xvid, but my dvd player can't read xvid for some reason. But it can handle Divx just fine.


LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("E:\temp\miami_vice_s1\agk_tmp\miami.vice.s01e11.dvdrip.divx.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 496
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)

[len0x]

5.2.1 is fine.

Please open the above AVS file in VDubMod and tell me how many frames File->Information shows you there.

[MrFaust]

Length: 69650 frames (48:24.98)

[len0x]

Bingo! :)
Please zip and attach D2V file from agk_tmp dir ( be aware you won't see the attachment until I authorize it).
It seems that number of frames is calculated incorrectly from new DGIndex D2V files (although I can't reproduce it here).

[MrFaust]

here you go, thanks for you help.

[len0x]

I didn't expect that you attach d2v file from a different than the log above encoding, so I was going crazy for 15 min! :)
Please provide d2v file from ep 10 (not 11) as well and frame count from AVS file.

P.S. ep 11 seems to have no problems as it has correct frame count (i.e. 69650).

[bourtzovlakas]

Hello,
I tried yesterday to rip "The Forgotten" region-1 DVD and igot the following error from DGindex:
Too many pictures per GOP (>=500)
DGindex will terminate.

Here is the log file:
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] AutoGK 1.90b
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] OS: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Job started.
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Input dir: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Output file: D:\DivX\Forgotten\Forgotten.avi
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Audio: English
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Subtitles: none
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Codec: XviD
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Target quality: 75%
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Started encoding.
[13/2/2005 3:50:19 ìì] Demuxing and indexing.
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.VOB
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.VOB
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Source resolution: 720x480
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Found NTSC source.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: '' is not a valid floating point value
*************************************
[13/2/2005 3:55:17 ìì] Job finished. Total time: 4 minutes 58 seconds


I am also attaching the d2v file,just in case you need it...

[len0x]

Don't you know that it is arccos-protected DVD and need special care when ripping. Pay attention to DVDDecrypter logs - were there any errors? Did you uncheck all the cells marked with ?


@MrFaust

Are you still with us? We seem to have a problem to solve...

[bourtzovlakas]

Yes,i know....
I unchecked the first 11 cells in chapter 1,that were marked with .
I am familiar with these Arccos-protected DVDs...
I have succesfully ripped Resident Evil 2 and The Grudge...
There were no errors in the DVD Decrypter logs...

Edit: The succesful rips mentioned above,were done with older versions of AutoGK...
I haven't kept the log files,but i am 99% certain they had v.1.0.12 of DGindex,bundled...

[len0x]

The error is happening way into the movie itself - may be there are some more cells marked with in other chapters. Did you check?

[bourtzovlakas]

Yes,i did check...
...and from the log of DVD Decrypter, it appears that no dummy sectors were inserted...
Also i tried opening the VOB files manually in DGindex and i got the same error...

[len0x]

Did you try indexing it with DGIndex 1.0.12 manually?

[len0x]

Are you able to do large uploads? If yes, I've started discussion about the problem here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89341
You should identify which particular VOB is failing and either upload it in full to Neuron2 or cut out bad part of it.

[bourtzovlakas]

I reinstalled v.1.60 stable
I get the same error
This is the log file

[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] AutoGK 1.60
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] OS: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Job started.
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Input dir: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Output file: D:\test.avi
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Audio: English
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Subtitles: none
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Codec: XviD
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Target quality: 75%
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Started encoding.
[13/2/2005 10:33:01 ìì] Demuxing and indexing.
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.VOB
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Processing file: D:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.VOB
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Source resolution: 720x480
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Found NTSC source.
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Found 5296882430 frames
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Running single pass encoding.
[13/2/2005 10:34:15 ìì] Writing the following script to D:\agk_tmp\test_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\agk_tmp\test.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[13/2/2005 10:34:25 ìì] Duration was: 9 seconds
[13/2/2005 10:34:25 ìì] Speed was: 545002805,98 fps.
[13/2/2005 10:34:25 ìì] Job finished.


I attached the d2v file....

[len0x]

Please see my last post.

[bourtzovlakas]

Sorry but no...
At least not one complete VOB...
If you could give me instructions for cutting the "bad part", i think i can make an upload of 50 Mb...
But the connection available to me is not that stable...

[bourtzovlakas]

I believe Lightning UK, should have this disk at his disposal...
...and i am quite certain his "uploading capabilities" are better than mine...
Maybe you should contact him...

[manono]

Hi-

You can cut vobs with ChopperXP (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Vobtools/chopperxp.zip) or MPEG2Cut (http://mitglied.lycos.de/darkav/menu.html), among others.

[bourtzovlakas]

Thanks,
but basically i need guidance on how to identify the "bad parts" of the VOB...

[len0x]

Once you know which vob is bad - load it in DGIndex and watch carefully when the error occurs: you have to estimate at what position that happens. Another approach would be to cut parts of 50/100Mb from the end of the vob until you still have an error and then do the same from beginning of the vob :)

[bourtzovlakas]

Thanks,
I will try it today, when i get home from work...
Can you estimate about the size of the bad part and whether it is only one?

[len0x]

Well we only care about having just one bad part. Garbage in the VOB should not be larger than 5Mb I think, so you may be able cut out part as small as 10-25Mb (that will require more time to find though).

[len0x]

Several bugfixes and improvements. I have AVI mode working (its not enabled in 1.91), so I did some core changes that hopefully didn't break anything. Still waiting for more reports about oversized DivX encodes...

[bourtzovlakas]

I followed your instructions and i found a "bad part" at the end of the first VOB.
The part i chopped was from 19.35 sec(a couple of seconds before the freeze) till the end of the VOB,at 22.26.
According to Chopper XP,the predicted filesize of this part is 129Mb...
After the chopping,i got a file of 39.9Mb...
Is this expected???
I tried to open the other VOBs in DGindex,but i get an error message saying "Mpeg1 streams not currently supported"...
Is this what you are looking for?Where should i upload the VOB?

[len0x]

I've send you a PM. But it worries me that you got that mpeg1 error - may be you can increase the size of the part and make that message go away?

[bourtzovlakas]

No, you have mis understood me...
I get no error, when trying to open the chopped part...
I get this error when i attempt to open VTS_0x_2,VTS_0x_3,....VTS_0x_5 manually in DGindex...

[MinosK]

Hello len0x.
A small gui bag in AutoGK 1.91:
When I run AutoGK, it starts in DVD input mode and the icon is the icon in File input mode (just in front of DVD icon....).

[len0x]

I knew that there was a reason I've put that code there :)
You see, when I fixed the bug of minimizing/maximizing - I could not remember why that particular piece of code was there, so I removed it - now I know why :)

[Sharktooth]

... that's why "comments" were invented... :)

[Leiw]

A BIG THANKS for this awesome program

Easy and Fast

have encoded about 200 DVDs -> XviD since 1.60 release :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
... that's why "comments" were invented... :)

Yep, but since it was just one line of code that actually makes sense anyway I didn't bother at the time :)

[MinosK]

Originally posted by len0x
Yep, but since it was just one line of code that actually makes sense anyway I didn't bother at the time :)

Hey!! something more....

When you start AutoGK the Preview button is enabled. If you change DVD input -> File input it is disabled again..

if you click Preview button you get:

[15/2/2005 3:11:56 ìì] AutoGK 1.91b
[15/2/2005 3:11:56 ìì] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[15/2/2005 3:11:56 ìì] Job started.
[15/2/2005 3:11:56 ìì] Indexing input for preview.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Input VOBs are not found.
*************************************
[15/2/2005 3:11:56 ìì] Job finished. Total time: 0 seconds
====================================================

and then the button is disabled again.

I believe that if you have not vob input or file input, the Preview button must be disabled.

[len0x]

indeed, its the same problem as with icons actually...

[len0x]

Did you try Vob Blanker 1.6.0.4 on Forgotten?

[tickey]

After installing Auto gk 1.6 and the 191b beta I can't run virtualdub mod anymore. I get a microsoft C++ runtime error-wether I run the vdubmod in the auto gk directory or my old one.
Anyone have a fix for this?
I did a search for the msvcp60.dll and all is there so I don't know why vdubmod won't run anymore?

[len0x]

AutoGK installer does nothing to the system... You can't even run VDubMod (not encode)?

[tickey]

as soon as I click on vdubmod I get the runtime error so the program does not start at all.

[tickey]

oh and the plain virtual dub works ok still!
tried downloading it again from sourceforge and i get the c++ runtime error as well.

[bourtzovlakas]

Originally posted by len0x
Did you try Vob Blanker 1.6.0.4 on Forgotten?

I am not familiar with that program...
I will look in to it...
Should i use it with the original disk or with the decrypted files?

[len0x]

Decrypted files (it requires full rip and IFO as well - that's why I can't try it on your sample).

[bourtzovlakas]

You mean rip with DVD Decrypter in File mode?
I already have it ripped in IFO mode...

[len0x]

you can try IFO mode first, if it doesn't like it then File...

[tickey]

any thoughts on this runtime error or is it time to reinstall windows?

[bourtzovlakas]

The program only accepts IFO VGM files, so i guess IFO mode is not an option...
I will rip in File mode and report later tonight...
By the way, what am i suppose to do with VobBlanker(excuse my ignorance)?

[tickey]

I just download vdub-mpeg2 and it works ok.
I'll rename it and try and use it with auto gk!

[len0x]

it won't work...

[tickey]

aw shucks!!!
no more auto gk 'til I reload windows then?!?!

[len0x]

Originally posted by bourtzovlakas
By the way, what am i suppose to do with VobBlanker(excuse my ignorance)?

Just process with it :) I never tried it myself, but saw ppl using it on such discs...

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by tickey
aw shucks!!!
no more auto gk 'til I reload windows then?!?!
Look on the net for the latest visual c++ runtime libraries. Download those libraries and replace the files in windows\system32 folder.
Some OTHER program overwritten those libraries with an older version.

[tickey]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Look on the net for the latest visual c++ runtime libraries. Download those libraries and replace the files in windows\system32 folder.
Some OTHER program overwritten those libraries with an older version.
I did that and still no luck.

[Mouse]

Start -> Restore DGIndex -> (open a new DGIndex) Manual cut IN & OUT -> Write .d2v -> (with new instance), close both DGIndex, does not longer work (1.91) - AutoGK just idle.

[edit]

1min later - how odd..pressed "abort" once, and it started..wierd.

Noticed when you restored back DGIndex and pressed ESC (this normaly stops the processing), closed DGIndex.

[edit again]

2min later. After processing audio, it really aborted.

Wierdest log i have ever got ;) - check this.

[2005-02-16 04:27:57] AutoGK 1.91b
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Job started.
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Input file: Video0216-0021(CVBS).mpg
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Video0216-0021(CVBS).avi
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Audio: Audio Stream 0
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Subtitles: none
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Codec: XviD
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Target size: 700Mb
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Started encoding.
[2005-02-16 04:27:57] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-02-16 04:43:22] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Video0216-0021(CVBS).mpg
[2005-02-16 04:43:22] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-02-16 04:43:22] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-02-16 04:43:22] Found PAL source.
[2005-02-16 04:43:22] Analyzing source.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Job aborted
*************************************
[2005-02-16 04:46:53] Job finished. Total time: 18 minutes 55 seconds

[manono]

Hi-

bourtzovlakas-

or anyone having trouble with DVDs with that new protection (Shaun of the Dead, Resident Evil-Apocalypse, The Grudge, Little Black Book, etc.); first make sure you have the latest DVD Decrypter (3.5.2.0), and keep an eye open for the next version which will correct the problem automatically. Follow the instructions as given by LIGHTNING UK! in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87774

If that doesn't work, or it's too difficult, or you don't understand the instructions, then run the files through VobBlanker:

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Vobtools/VobBlanker_1604_exe.zip

To do that, you'll need all the files ripped in File Mode from DVDDecrypter, or ISO'd and mounted using Daemon Tools (probably a better idea). Make sure the files are all marked as Process, and then hit Process at the bottom. You'll need some hard drive space for this, as it's going to rewrite all the files again. There are some more complete instructions in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89573

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
Start -> Restore DGIndex -> (open a new DGIndex) Manual cut IN & OUT -> Write .d2v -> (with new instance), close both DGIndex, does not longer work (1.91) - AutoGK just idle.


Indeed. This functionality is gone for good as its impossible to stop DGIndex when it was started from CLI anymore...

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
May be I should set up Kagi account then...

It should be up on the main AutoGK page now.

[mightyspawn]

maybe a little bit off topic, but i'm looking for my own application some modern icons. I like the ones in your application. Are they from a collection, and are they free? And from which site?

Thanks

[len0x]

Afaik they are internal windows (or may be other MS application) icons, that were polished and converted to a proper format by ydobon. They are not part of any collection on the web (at least I didn't get them from there).

[ydobon]

Yep. They all come from Windows DLLs. I converted them to PNG to make them look good at any color depth. I'm not sure if such use goes against any license. Microsoft doesn't say much (http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-img.htm#Icons) about it.

But such conversion is not really necessary. You can always access an icon from a DLL (http://www.scalabium.com/faq/dct0084.htm) directly (Delphi link).

[fewtch]

Originally posted by ydobon
Yep. They all come from Windows DLLs. I converted them to PNG to make them look good at any color depth. I'm not sure if such use goes against any license. Microsoft doesn't say much (http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-img.htm#Icons) about it.
Well...

...in software applications...as they are NOT to be used as "artwork" or design elements.

Seems to me this would be a case of use as design elements, but I think Microsoft wouldn't care much or even notice (this is a pretty low-profile usage). Lots of Windows screen shots including similar things are up on websites and could also be considered "design elements" because of that.

[bourtzovlakas]

@len0x

Hi,
any news about the sample clip,i sent you from "The Forgotten"?
Have you been able to locate the origin of the problem?

[len0x]

I can't play it properly, which means that it was not properly ripped/converted. Blank cells should not affect the playback of original VOBs (otherwise it would be impossible to play them in DVD players), but what i see in the video sample is just a lot of garbage put on top of good video...

[Mouse]

Does anyone know how i get rid of "rainbox-effects", using AutoGK ?
(sample picture posted)

Doh..no images allowed, sorry.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
Doh..no images allowed, sorry.

Didn't get that... I have to authorize all attachements first, but didn't see any.

[phoenix03]

Hi len0x,
First of all thanks and congratulations for agk.

With this last version I'm experiencing oversize.
I've the latest version of Dvddecrypter, Xvid.

I've attached the log file. The number of frames in the xxx_movie.avs is identical to the one in the log file.
Sorry if this has already been posted and answered here.

Hello from Paris
Thierry

12/02/2005 12:38:02] AutoGK 1.90b
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Job started.
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Input dir: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Output file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\kill bill.avi
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Audio: Français
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Subtitles: none
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Codec: XviD
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Target size: 700Mb
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Started encoding.
[12/02/2005 12:38:02] Demuxing and indexing.
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Processing file: C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_7.VOB
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Source resolution: 720x576
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Found PAL source.
[12/02/2005 12:41:34] Analyzing source.
[12/02/2005 12:53:42] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[12/02/2005 12:53:42] Source is considered to be progressive.
[12/02/2005 12:53:43] Output will contain 159262 frames
[12/02/2005 12:53:43] Encoding audio.
[12/02/2005 13:05:24] Audio size: 103,251,312 bytes (98.47 Mb)
[12/02/2005 13:05:24] Overhead: 6,370,432 bytes (6.08 Mb)
[12/02/2005 13:05:24] Video size: 624,381,456 bytes (595.46 Mb)
[12/02/2005 13:05:24] Running compressibility test.
[12/02/2005 13:05:24] Writing the following script to C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\agk_tmp\kill bill_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\agk_tmp\kill bill.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[12/02/2005 13:09:41] Duration was: 4 minutes 16 seconds
[12/02/2005 13:09:42] Speed was: 31,03 fps.
[12/02/2005 13:09:43] Compressibility percentage is: 63,42
[12/02/2005 13:09:43] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2,38 )
[12/02/2005 13:09:43] Predicted comptest value is: 70,93
[12/02/2005 13:09:43] Running first pass.
[12/02/2005 13:09:43] Writing the following script to C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\agk_tmp\kill bill_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD-Ripping\Kill Bill 1\agk_tmp\kill bill.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[12/02/2005 13:55:31] Duration was: 45 minutes 45 seconds
[12/02/2005 13:55:31] Speed was: 58,01 fps.
[12/02/2005 13:55:31] Expected quality of first pass size: 69,80
[12/02/2005 13:55:31] Running second pass.
[12/02/2005 14:54:57] Duration was: 59 minutes 26 seconds
[12/02/2005 14:54:57] Speed was: 44,66 fps.
[12/02/2005 14:54:57] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 16 minutes 55 seconds

[phoenix03]

Sorry I forgot the avs file.

For some ununderstood reason the file is not uploaded, anyway the "Number of Key frames" in the File Information is exactly 159262.

[len0x]

Is it 700Mb vs 723Mb? Can you post the exact size of final AVI please.
Also can you please attach two d2v files - one that is made by latest AutoGK (you don't have to wait until movie is converted, just abort encoding after demuxing step) and manually by DGIndex 1.0.12 (you can get it from here: http://www.neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html).

It worries me though - PAL sources should not have any problems. And XviD should never have oversize anyway, coz its the target size that is set and only overhead calculations may influence resulting size (but not by 23Mb...)

P.S. attachements will only appear after I authorize them...

[phoenix03]

Hi Len0x,
The exact size is 741094 Ko

I've attached the 1st d2v file, and will edit and add the second one as soon as it is ready.
Thanks

[phoenix03]

... and here's the 2nd one, generated with DGIndex as requested..

[len0x]

Originally posted by phoenix03
Hi Len0x,
The exact size is 741094 Ko


What is it in bytes?

Thanks for d2v files - I'll have a look and see if I can spot anything unusual.

[phoenix03]

Hi len0x,
Size is again 723 Mo (758 880 256 octets) - 741094 Ko

I've attached the log.

[phoenix03]

...and here's the d2v...

[len0x]

Lots of minor fixes and improvements. Still trying to nail down oversize problem that I cannot reproduce...

[phoenix03]

Hi len0x,
here are the log files.
Good Night!

[len0x]

Looking at both logs I can see that comp test percentage in old version is below 66.67% which means that max quantizer 4 is used while new one above 66.67% and therefore quantizer 3 is used. Oversize should not happen theoretically, but if XviD has some kind of rate control problem then it might be the cause (but its still very rare problem).

[Exoskeletor]

Len0x i have a problem. i have rip an x-files episode and i have try to make it avi with subtitles.look the log.

[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] AutoGK 1.92b
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Job started.
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Input dir: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Output file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\episode2.avi
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Audio: English
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Subtitles: Greek : Normal
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Codec: XviD
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Target size: 500Mb
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Started encoding.
[24/2/2005 7:02:46 ðì] Demuxing and indexing.
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Processing file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\VTS_01_1.VOB
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Processing file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\VTS_01_2.VOB
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Source resolution: 720x576
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Found PAL source.
[24/2/2005 7:03:32 ðì] Analyzing source.
[24/2/2005 7:05:44 ðì] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 44,12
[24/2/2005 7:05:44 ðì] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[24/2/2005 7:05:44 ðì] Output will contain 65927 frames
[24/2/2005 7:05:44 ðì] Decoding audio.
[24/2/2005 7:06:35 ðì] Normalizing audio.
[24/2/2005 7:07:21 ðì] Encoding audio.
[24/2/2005 7:10:32 ðì] Preparing subtitles.

Unfortunately, in the end i have an avi without subtitles. i have rip the dvd with dvd decrypter. when i click on the preview, i can't see the subtitles also(i can't ever hear anything but in the final avi i have the correct sound)

If i open the ifo with subrip i have the subtitles. What do you think that i can do?

[bourtzovlakas]

Did you use stream processing in DVD Decrypter?
Did you de-select any subtitle stream?

[Exoskeletor]

no. anything its here.i have rip the dvd in ifo mode without stream processing enabled. see the streraming information

0x20 - Subtitle - Nederlands - [SubPicture 01: Normal] / LBA: 1058232 / PTS: 00:00:03.133 / Delay: 3000ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 02: Normal] / LBA: 1060140 / PTS: 00:00:07.773 / Delay: 7640ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Français - [SubPicture 03: Normal] / LBA: 1058208 / PTS: 00:00:03.093 / Delay: 2960ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Greek - [SubPicture 04: Normal] / LBA: 1060136 / PTS: 00:00:07.773 / Delay: 7640ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 1057557 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Français / LBA: 1057556 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 4:3 / LBA: 1057550 / PTS: 00:00:00.133 / Delay: 0ms

[bourtzovlakas]

Try with another subtitle stream in preview, to see if the other streams are displayed correctly....

[alfa156]

when i try to download the 1.92 i get a message "password required". Why is that?

thank you

[len0x]

FAQ Q 0

[alfa156]

forgive me.

it was download accelerator that messed up.

Thank you

[Chaser]

everything is explained by the two screenshots!

Here the log:
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] AutoGK 1.92b
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Job started.
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Input dir: G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\F03
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Output file: G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\03.avi
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Audio: Deutsch
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Audio2: English
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Subtitles: none
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Codec: DivX
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Target size: 233Mb
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 96Kbps
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Started encoding.
[25.02.2005 20:39:35] Demuxing and indexing.
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Processing file: G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\F03\VTS_03_PGC_01_1.VOB
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Processing file: G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\F03\VTS_03_PGC_01_2.VOB
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Source resolution: 720x576
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Found PAL source.
[25.02.2005 20:41:13] Analyzing source.
[25.02.2005 20:43:49] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 1,60
[25.02.2005 20:43:49] Source is considered to be progressive.
[25.02.2005 20:43:49] Output will contain 63637 frames
[25.02.2005 20:43:49] Decoding audio.
[25.02.2005 20:44:46] Normalizing audio.
[25.02.2005 20:45:02] Encoding audio.
[25.02.2005 20:50:09] Decoding audio.
[25.02.2005 20:51:50] Normalizing audio.
[25.02.2005 20:52:28] Encoding audio.
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Audio size: 31,486,877 bytes (30.03 Mb)
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Audio 2 size: 31,261,374 bytes (29.81 Mb)
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Overhead: 6,653,184 bytes (6.34 Mb)
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Video size: 174,916,773 bytes (166.81 Mb)
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Target bitrate is: 550kbps
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Running compressibility test.
[25.02.2005 20:57:32] Writing the following script to G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\agk_tmp\03_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\agk_tmp\03.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Duration was: 4 minutes 1 second.
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Speed was: 13,16 fps.
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Compressibility percentage is: 32,01
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Using softer resizer.
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Chosen resolution is: 480x272 ( AR: 1,76 )
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Predicted comptest value is: 61,95
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Running first pass.
[25.02.2005 21:01:35] Writing the following script to G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\agk_tmp\03_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\Multimedia\Video\Serien\Stargate\agk_tmp\03.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Duration was: 18 minutes 7 seconds
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Speed was: 58,50 fps.
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Warning! Found different number of frames: 30310
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Audio size: 31,486,877 bytes (30.03 Mb)
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Audio 2 size: 31,261,374 bytes (29.81 Mb)
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Overhead: 3,170,432 bytes (3.02 Mb)
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Video size: 178,399,525 bytes (170.14 Mb)
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Target bitrate is: 1177kbps
[25.02.2005 21:19:43] Running second pass.
[25.02.2005 21:23:44] Duration was: 4 minutes 0 seconds
[25.02.2005 21:23:44] Speed was: 125,85 fps.
[25.02.2005 21:23:44] Job finished. Total time: 44 minutes 8 seconds

[Chaser]

snd picture

[len0x]

Originally posted by Chaser
everything is explained by the two screenshots!


Not really. Search in the forum can help (I saw that error before somewhere). Nothing to do with AutoGK though.

[Exoskeletor]

bourtzovlaka the preview doesn't show subtitles no matter what language i select. can you understand why this is happening? i can't make the avi with built in subtitles. (if the subtitles have some errors then the subrip why is working ok with them?)

[Chaser]

hm
search doesn't work here. of course it is an error from vdubmod - but why?

[digidragon]

Originally posted by Chaser
...of course it is an error from vdubmod - but why?

I had the same error and the GTCODEC.DLL codec was the problem. I unregistered and renamed it, and the error was no more.

Apparently the GTCODEC codec is very badly-behaved and tries to decode formats which it's not designed to decode.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
the preview doesn't show subtitles no matter what language i select.

:readfaq: Q 3.4

[Exoskeletor]

i have rip all the x files episode with the same way.only in episode 2 this is happening.

[len0x]

If you're not following the correct procedure I will not give any support to you.

[Exoskeletor]

i have rip the dvd in ifo mode without changing anything...how do you know that i haven't follow the correct procedure?

[len0x]

Because your vob files do not contain PGC information in them! Without it you won't be able to see any subs from any PGCs apart from the first one (did you read Q 3.4?).

[Exoskeletor]

yes i read it but how is this possible to happen? i have rip all the dvd's in the same way.
(i have notice that only the first episode has 2 extra files,VTS_01_1.srm and VTS_01_2.srm. does this matter?)

[len0x]

That is where my support stops - I'm not concerned about how it was working if you didn't follow the guide. I only care that certain procedure works. So please report back if you have this problem after you ripped DVD properly.

[Exoskeletor]

ah i see. pgc and angel number. you just have to say read the tutorial :). im sorry.
why autogk can't understand that i have rip the dvd and display a message? this would be nice

[len0x]

Whoever has SSE3 capable cpu please test if its detected properly and denosing is working OK on such systems. This version should be stress tested as its what I plan to release as a stable version.

[Chaser]

Originally posted by len0x
Whoever has SSE3 capable cpu please test if its detected properly and denosing is working OK on such systems. This version should be stress tested as its what I plan to release as a stable version.

Are the SSE3commands then used in VDubMod or rather for encoding audio?

[len0x]

Only one component in AutoGK package is using SSE3 - RemoveGrain avisynth filter. Nothing else as far as I know is able to take advantage of that.

[Exoskeletor]

im testing it now with amd64 3,5.
Len0x i can't understand on the select output size window, when we click to choose the number of the cd's, why we have to scroll up or down to see one more option. can you make this box larger?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
can you make this box larger?

Yes, I can.

[Exoskeletor]

Here is the log file.As i say i have AMD64 @ 3,5ghz.From the previous log i have seen the the autogk has use removegain.dll but now has use removegainsse2/dll.
In the previous job (with Target size: 500Mb) the duration was
[24/2/2005 8:54:23 ðì] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 51 minutes 37 seconds
Now it is(with Target size: 700Mb):
[28/2/2005 8:32:46 ìì] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 39 minutes 41 seconds

Well Done Len0x

(Although i have select 1 cd size, the final size is 798mb)

[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] AutoGK 1.93b
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Job started.
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Input dir: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Output file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\egyj.avi
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Audio: English
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Subtitles: none
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Codec: XviD
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Target size: 700Mb
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Started encoding.
[28/2/2005 6:53:05 ìì] Demuxing and indexing.
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Processing file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\VTS_01_1.VOB
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Processing file: C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\VTS_01_2.VOB
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Source resolution: 720x576
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Found PAL source.
[28/2/2005 6:53:48 ìì] Analyzing source.
[28/2/2005 6:55:59 ìì] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 44,12
[28/2/2005 6:55:59 ìì] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[28/2/2005 6:55:59 ìì] Output will contain 65927 frames
[28/2/2005 6:55:59 ìì] Decoding audio.
[28/2/2005 6:56:53 ìì] Normalizing audio.
[28/2/2005 6:57:28 ìì] Encoding audio.
[28/2/2005 7:00:36 ìì] Audio size: 42,093,840 bytes (40.14 Mb)
[28/2/2005 7:00:36 ìì] Overhead: 2,637,056 bytes (2.51 Mb)
[28/2/2005 7:00:36 ìì] Video size: 689,272,304 bytes (657.34 Mb)
[28/2/2005 7:00:36 ìì] Running compressibility test.
[28/2/2005 7:00:36 ìì] Writing the following script to C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\agk_tmp\egyj_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\agk_tmp\egyj.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Duration was: 3 minutes 48 seconds
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Speed was: 14,41 fps.
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Compressibility percentage is: 103,76
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Chosen resolution is: 720x544 ( AR: 1,32 )
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Predicted comptest value is: 81,38
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Running first pass.
[28/2/2005 7:04:25 ìì] Writing the following script to C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\agk_tmp\egyj_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\X-Files Season 1\Episode 2\agk_tmp\egyj.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[28/2/2005 8:32:40 ìì] Duration was: 1 hour, 28 minutes 14 seconds
[28/2/2005 8:32:40 ìì] Speed was: 12,45 fps.
[28/2/2005 8:32:40 ìì] Expected quality of first pass size: 82,52
[28/2/2005 8:32:40 ìì] Running second pass.
[28/2/2005 8:32:46 ìì] Duration was: 5 seconds
[28/2/2005 8:32:46 ìì] Speed was: 11497,56 fps.
[28/2/2005 8:32:46 ìì] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 39 minutes 41 seconds

[len0x]

As far as I can see second pass didn't run at all and you left with just first pass file! (speedup cannot be that huge just because of SSE2 denoising).

[Exoskeletor]

??? you are write. i haven't notice that. i don't remember to stop the second pass. i was doing a lot of job when i was making this avi. guess i have stop it and i didnt realise it.

[Exoskeletor]

can you make autogk when we select the input directory, automaticly select the "folder_name".avi as output file name? (and if it is exist as "folder_name"1.avi etc). and if we dont like it we still can press the button too change the name.

Or at least if you dont like it, when we click on the output directory folder, make the program to write automaticly the name of the input direcory(in the input box that appears) and to be highlited.(in order if someone dont like it to start immediately writing)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
can you make autogk when we select the input directory, automaticly select the "folder_name".avi as output file name? (and if it is exist as "folder_name"1.avi etc). and if we dont like it we still can press the button too change the name.


That was actually discussed many times. And I wasn't against it, but some ppl said they would like naming to be first directory in the path and not the last. So nothing was done about it in the end.

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
Or at least if you dont like it, when we click on the output directory folder, make the program to write automaticly the name of the input direcory(in the input box that appears) and to be highlited.(in order if someone dont like it to start immediately writing)

That's a good idea.

[Exoskeletor]

i want to make another suggestion (i dont know if it is good one, but i though that you should listen it). what about making some keyboard shortcuts with our favour settings?
I mean, when we click on the shift+F1 automaticly the output size,codec,audio format,input directory (if exist), audio language (if exist) etc will be selected with the previous settings that we have enter in the shift+F1 shortcut.

[len0x]

Sounds more like a profile, not a shortcut.

[Exoskeletor]

yeah something like that. do you like it?

[len0x]

I do, but its not something that would be high on my priority list atm.

[Chaser]

Do you plan to show us your To-Do-list sometime in the future?

[len0x]

Sort of - I'll announce what's gonna be done within next development cycle after stable release is out.

[Exoskeletor]

ok. we are awaiting release. if you plan to translate autogk in greek im here :)

[Chaser]

A translation of AGK isn't planned, i think - according to this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90476) first of all the tutorial ist translated (someone already wants to do the greek one - no name mentioned there however - perhaps it's you ;) ).

[Mc|Atm0s]

Can AutoGK support Fraunhofer IIS mp3surround (demoware) in future? :rolleyes:

[whiskey]

Why AutoGK does not suppor such features in both divx and xvid like
1.Global Motion Compensation
2.Quarter pixel motion estimation

An second question.. is there any way to add logo into video via autoGK or virtualdub ??? (thanks for answers and greetz 4 ALL):p

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mc|Atm0s
Can AutoGK support Fraunhofer IIS mp3surround (demoware) in future? :rolleyes:

unlikely.

[len0x]

Originally posted by whiskey
Why AutoGK does not suppor such features in both divx and xvid like
1.Global Motion Compensation
2.Quarter pixel motion estimation


They are not standalone compatible.

Originally posted by whiskey
An second question.. is there any way to add logo into video via autoGK or virtualdub ???

Only via manual SSA subs.

[Stebs]

Since the Thread here is slow atm, I allow myself to ask a few questions about the future of AutoGK:

Lenox, do you plan to work on x264(AVC) + AAC for AutoGK in the future? (naturally after a stable version - btw. how is the stable version going?)

As you surely know AVC + AAC will be THE Codecs in the future as HDTV will mostly use those and some standalones already start to be compatible, for example the newest Players from Xoro - they call it Nero Digital until now, but it should be compatible to standard AVC (like x254) or not?

x264 should be no great Problem as you made GordianKnot already compatible with it, but what about AAC and mp4 Container?

Keep up the good work!

[len0x]

Originally posted by Stebs
Lenox, do you plan to work on x264(AVC) + AAC for AutoGK in the future?

As I said several times before - yes, I do.

Originally posted by Stebs
for example the newest Players from Xoro - they call it Nero Digital until now, but it should be compatible to standard AVC (like x254) or not?


There isn't even decoder chip out there that can decode AVC, so players won't be out at least for another year...

Originally posted by Stebs
x264 should be no great Problem as you made GordianKnot already compatible with it, but what about AAC and mp4 Container?


I don't have any plans regarding GK atm.

[Stebs]

Originally posted by len0x
As I said several times before - yes, I do.
Ah sorry, then I missed these comments, great to hear :)
There isn't even decoder chip out there that can decode AVC, so players won't be out at least for another year...
Ok, I was myself amazed a bit about this news (in German):
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57407
So they simply overlook the fact that Nero Digital can be (the known "classical") mpeg4 OR the new mpeg4 Part10 (AVC)

I don't have any plans regarding GK atm.
But I hope for AutoGK (AAC + mp4-Conatiner) ;)
-At least these two things are available (now) with "Nero-Digital" compatible Standalones.

[Exoskeletor]

why the stable version hasnt released yet? your program is out of bugs :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Exoskeletor
your program is out of bugs :)

Probably not, but I've released it anyway :)

[len0x]

As promiced - an overview what's to come,

Next stable version will have these features at a minimum:

- AVI input support
- suppport for new versions of XviD (1.1) and DivX (6.0)

Secondary features that might be implemented if I have time left from first two:

- persistent job queue
- new config file(s) for hidden options and more...

Fun features (that might apprear suddenly if I have have nothing to do one day):

- support for x264
- support for mp4
- support for AAC

Minor stuff may come along but what is mentioned above is the main target.

[kilivipin]

When you say "avi input", do you mean that AutoGK will be able to process any kind of video file that can exist in the .avi container? Not just mpeg? That would be pretty huge...
And what do you mean by persistant job queue?

Also, a feature request. How about being allowed to set a time to begin encoding? Like in some download managers?

[len0x]

Originally posted by kilivipin
When you say "avi input", do you mean that AutoGK will be able to process any kind of video file that can exist in the .avi container? Not just mpeg? That would be pretty huge...


Pretty much - yes, giving that you can play it in WMP.

Originally posted by kilivipin
And what do you mean by persistant job queue?


Keep jobs after restart.

Originally posted by kilivipin
How about being allowed to set a time to begin encoding? Like in some download managers?

I'll think about it.

[obieobieobie]

Is it just me, or is the autogk website down?

[richarddd]

Originally posted by obieobieobie
Is it just me, or is the autogk website down?

The site works for me

[obieobieobie]

Strange. What's the IP of the site? There seems to be a DNS problem at my end..

[len0x]

IP won't work as there are multiple vhosts there. Both autogk.me.uk and autogk.net cannot be resolved? (its the same server)

[obieobieobie]

Originally posted by len0x
IP won't work as there are multiple vhosts there. Both autogk.me.uk and autogk.net cannot be resolved? (its the same server) Yes, I can't resolve either. I've checked my FW logs and I can't see any evidence of access being blocked.

[ydobon]

Hi,

I think the thread subject should be "Auto Gordian Knot: current version 1.95" instead of "Auto Gordian Knot: current version 1.95 beta" :)


Regards,

[obieobieobie]

Okay, the AutoGK site resolves now. Thanks len0x and richarddd.

[kilivipin]

Thanks so much for the new stable release and thanks for answering my questions:) I like the thought of the "persistent job queue"...

Edit: Len0x: In the tutorial, you mention that "it is possible to do this on a 500mhz". Could you change that to at least 333mhz? I have backed up over 20 DVD's, as well as other things with AutoGK. It can take 20-30 hours, but it always works. I say this so as not to discourage potential users with ultra slow pc's.

[mightyspawn]

Why is there ***** spyware in this program? Called DAE? I dont like it

I had the plan to give you some money, but now i've found out you deliver this with spyware. You have done it.

Cant we live without this crap. :mad:

[len0x]

Everything was dicussed already here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056). Please do not start dicussion again.

[len0x]

Originally posted by kilivipin
Edit: Len0x: In the tutorial, you mention that "it is possible to do this on a 500mhz". Could you change that to at least 333mhz?

Well, that wasn't me :) But its done not to discourage users but just to show how lengthy process will be. It doesn't say you need *at least* 500MHz CPU...

[kilivipin]

Originally posted by len0x
Well, that wasn't me :) But its done not to discourage users but just to show how lengthy process will be. It doesn't say you need *at least* 500MHz CPU...
ok:) No worries!!!

[mightyspawn]

Originally posted by len0x
Everything was dicussed already here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87056). Please do not start dicussion again.

sure its all discussed, but still it should be removed. :mad:

[Ogig]

Originally posted by mightyspawn
sure its all discussed, but still it should be removed. :mad:

:angry: Sorry, I can't resist: could you please stop whining?

Len0x has invested hours upon hours of his valuable time into this program, and it is obviously a fantastic tool. You should be happy with what you got, and that's a lot for not paying a dime!

So who are you that you think you have any right to determine what Len0x should do and what not? I am sick of such respectless comments...

[len0x]

I will request again both sides to stop dicussing this. Sanctions will come if you fail to comply, you know the drill :)

[kio]

hello,

I've encoded an anime with autogk. But my problem, is the sound and video are not both synchronized. There is a small time-lag of aprox 1 second.

Anyone may help pls ?

I use xvid 1.03

[bourtzovlakas]

Hi len0x,

Is it possible to add splitting of large files(>2Gb) for better compatibillity with standalones?
For example, if final .avi size is 2.x Gb, to be splitted in two segments of 2 Gb and 0.x Gb...

Thanks

[QNX]

hi len0x

i've encoded 3 files

The Matrix.1080i.HDTV.HDL.Disc_1.ts
The Matrix.1080i.HDTV.HDL.Disc_2.ts
The Matrix.1080i.HDTV.HDL.Disc_3.ts

and got twitched avi file :D

with agk 1.95

[len0x]

Originally posted by kio

I've encoded an anime with autogk. But my problem, is the sound and video are not both synchronized. There is a small time-lag of aprox 1 second.


If its constant asynch then you can remux file manually in VDubMod.

[len0x]

Originally posted by bourtzovlakas

Is it possible to add splitting of large files(>2Gb) for better compatibillity with standalones?


We're looking at ability of custom splitting... That can be a hidden option I suppose.

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX
and got twitched avi file :D


Meaning?

[bourtzovlakas]

If there is no way to auto-detect filesizes >2Gb and then auto-split, the ability to custom split will be nice too...

[len0x]

Why hardcode something that can be generically exposed?
Atm AutoGK internal routines don't have an ability to do custom splits, but when they do its only natural to expose it as a single option that allows users to use it however they like (instead of having an options like "standalone size-compatibility" etc).

[QNX]

Originally posted by len0x
Meaning?

output avi playing jerkily.. something wrong with fps probably...

dunno why.. source was with 60fps

every 2 seconds movie almost freezing.. it look's like fps drops

[len0x]

:logfile:

[QNX]

Originally posted by len0x
:logfile:

crap :rolleyes:

i've deleted all including source output and logs...

i'l reencode tonight :D

[len0x]

Just two changle log entries, but quite large ones :)
I'll start duscussion of AVI input support in another thread.

Regarding DIVX format support: so far its just audio and subs. Subs support is rather limited: no forced subs, no multiangle source and only first PGCs of VTS are supported it seems. I'd like you guys test overhead for DIVX format as atm I have no idea how FUSE is muxing audio.

[Alwayscamp]

i'm sure this was posted but can't seem to find

my source file is 704 x 480 and autogk wont give me that output even when i try to force it via hidden options. it keeps on changing it and differently sometimes to either a 4 x 3 output or something like 1.47 aspect ratio.

a request just thought that a button on the main gui would be nice. just a thought - i know you want to keep autogk simple, but i thought i might just throw it in there.

[len0x]

If you want an anamorphic encode 1-2-1 from DVD resolution, you can't do that in AutoGK atm. It is always resized to 1:1 PAR.

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
If you want an anamorphic encode 1-2-1 from DVD resolution, you can't do that in AutoGK atm. It is always resized to 1:1 PAR. I think the last time I wanted to do an anamorphic encoding with AutoGK, I first ran DGindex and then changed the AR entry in the d2v file to compensate. Then I ran AutoGK in a different subdirectory. When DGindex launched, I interrupted its execution with <esc> and copied my modified d2v file over the AutoGK one. Then I terminated DGindex and let AutoGK continue with the processing flow.

AutoGK isn't really the right tool for this sort of thing but if you enjoy workarounds more than convenience, have fun! :sly:

[len0x]

I just realized that I can enforce 1:1 AR from hidden options at no cost :)

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
I just realized that I can enforce 1:1 AR from hidden options at no cost :) :helpful: I'm pleased we could provide the motivation, len0x. :)

[Cocophone]

Im getting this error message with the new AVI input.

EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "D:\agk_tmp\frames.log". The system cannot find the file specified

See below



[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] AutoGK 2.00b
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] OS: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Job started.
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Input file: EDITED 24 8-9pm.avi
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Input codec: Huffman
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Output file: D:\EDITED 24 8-9pm_agk.avi
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Output codec: DivX
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Audio: 1536kbps
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Subtitles: none
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Format: .DIVX
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 160Kbps
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Started encoding.
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Source resolution: 640x480
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Source fps: 29.97
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Output will contain 6187 frames
[3/22/2005 11:57:29 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.00
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 0.00
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.00
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[3/22/2005 12:53:32 PM] Demuxing audio.
[3/22/2005 1:02:55 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/22/2005 1:03:06 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Audio size: 54,379,392 bytes (51.86 Mb)
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Overhead: 401,920 bytes (0.38 Mb)
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Video size: 679,221,888 bytes (647.76 Mb)
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Target bitrate is: 26321kbps
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/22/2005 1:06:26 PM] Writing the following script to D:\agk_tmp\EDITED 24 8-9pm_agk_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\fdecimate.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("D:\\EDITED 24 8-9pm.avi",29.97).KillAudio()
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(42,14)
===========================================================
[3/22/2005 7:02:06 PM] Duration was: 5 hours 55 minutes 39 seconds
[3/22/2005 7:02:06 PM] Speed was: 0.10 fps.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "D:\agk_tmp\frames.log". The system cannot find the file specified
*************************************
[3/22/2005 7:02:06 PM] Job finished. Total time: 7 hours 4 minutes 37 seconds

[len0x]

@Cocophone

Please try version 2.01 that is going to be released shortly. Then post the log file here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91804)

[len0x]

It add support for anamorphic encodings when 1:1 AR is selected via hidden options.

[giannid]

Hi, I would like to know if you choose the divx container and use an .srt subtitle file (via CTRL+F8), will the subtitle be burnt-in or just put into the container and be allowed to turn on and off when used in a standalone?

Thanks

[xistan]

Hi Len0x,

I know I have asked this before, but now that you have AVI-file support working I thought a feature request would be in place.

I would love to see support for Avisynth scripts (avs-files) as input. Reason? Well I use Avisynth to cut and merge my TV-captures (e.g. to cut out commercials from recorded shows etc). If no support for AVS is planned (or even possible), is there any other way to accomplish this using AutoGK?

/C

ps The swedish tutorial translation is upcoming by the way. Sorry for the delay.

[len0x]

Originally posted by giannid
Hi, I would like to know if you choose the divx container and use an .srt subtitle file (via CTRL+F8), will the subtitle be burnt-in or just put into the container and be allowed to turn on and off when used in a standalone?


Atm, neither :)
It will be muxed into DIVX format and be switchable there when I support that feature (I just have to have stable DIVX format support first). But good that you reminded me.

[len0x]

Originally posted by xistan
I would love to see support for Avisynth scripts (avs-files) as input.

Its not planned atm as it would just take us back to GK where video/audio would have to be selected separately, then new infrastructure has to be implemented for reading info from AVS files etc. I'm not saying it wil never be supported, but atm I have my work planned 2-3 month ahead and its not on the list yet.

P.S. There were a couple of tools around that allowed hacking of AVS (one by ydobon).

[giannid]

I noticed that when I used a video source that had only 1 channel of audio (mono) and selected 128kbs CBR, the result was an avi with 1 channel at only 64kbs CBR.

I realise now that if I want 128kbs with a mono source, I should set the audio to 256kbs, but perhaps a future version might take this into account.

[len0x]

its a feature - see FAQ Q 2.8

[kilivipin]

Originally posted by giannid
I noticed that when I used a video source that had only 1 channel of audio (mono) and selected 128kbs CBR, the result was an avi with 1 channel at only 64kbs CBR.

I realise now that if I want 128kbs with a mono source, I should set the audio to 256kbs, but perhaps a future version might take this into account.
I think that when you select 128kbs for a stereo source, you get 64kps per channel. So, when AutoGk halves the bitrate for a mono source, you have the exact same quality, but with only one channel.

[evil ryu]

I have a suggestion.

Can you add in the video info field the duration of the film so a person can choose best advanced settings according to it?

[giannid]

It seems to me that 128kb stereo is composed of 2 separate 64kb segments totalling 128kb. With mono, we get only one 64kb channel, and it seems that we would get only half the quality.

[Chaser]

[25.03.2005 17:52:19] AutoGK 2.01b
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Job started.
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Input dir: G:\Multimedia\Video\Kinofilme\Sphere - Die Macht aus dem All
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Output file: G:\Multimedia\Video\Kinofilme\Sphere - Die Macht aus dem All\Sphere - Die Macht aus dem All.avi
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Output codec: XviD
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Audio: Deutsch
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Subtitles: none
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Format: .AVI
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Target size: 700Mb
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Started encoding.
[25.03.2005 17:52:19] Demuxing and indexing.
[25.03.2005 17:55:18] Processing file: G:\Multimedia\Video\Kinofilme\Sphere - Die Macht aus dem All\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[25.03.2005 17:55:18] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[25.03.2005 17:55:18] Source resolution: 720x576
[25.03.2005 17:55:18] Found PAL source.
[25.03.2005 17:55:18] Analyzing source.
[25.03.2005 18:05:18] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[25.03.2005 18:05:18] Source is considered to be progressive.
[25.03.2005 18:05:19] Output will contain 193153 frames
[25.03.2005 18:05:19] Decoding audio.
[25.03.2005 18:10:16] Normalizing audio.
[25.03.2005 18:12:57] Encoding audio.
[25.03.2005 18:14:15] Forcing encoding with sharp matrix.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio is not found. Encoding aborted.
*************************************
[25.03.2005 18:14:15] Job finished. Total time: 21 minutes 56 seconds


0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 26 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Deutsch - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 25 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Español - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 24 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Nederlands - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 23 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 05: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 22 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 06: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 21 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 07: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 20 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 08: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 19 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x28 - Subtitle - Portugues - [SubPicture 09: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 18 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x29 - Subtitle - Hebrew - [SubPicture 10: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 17 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2A - Subtitle - Polish - [SubPicture 11: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 16 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2B - Subtitle - Greek - [SubPicture 12: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2C - Subtitle - Czech (Ceske) - [SubPicture 13: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 14 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2D - Subtitle - Turkish - [SubPicture 14: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 13 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2E - Subtitle - Magyar - [SubPicture 15: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 12 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x2F - Subtitle - Islenska (Icelandic) - [SubPicture 16: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 11 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x30 - Subtitle - Hrvatski - [SubPicture 17: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 10 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x31 - Subtitle - Français - [SubPicture 18: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x32 - Subtitle - Italiano - [SubPicture 19: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x33 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 20: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 7 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x34 - Subtitle - Deutsch / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 21: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 29 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 28 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -79ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Español / LBA: 27 / PTS: 00:00:00.053 / Delay: -80ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.133 / Delay: 0ms


Normal DVD-Rip. Was ripped with DVDDecrypter as stated in Tutorial. Newest Beta installed (2.01b). Can you help me with this one?

[len0x]

Was AC3 demuxed OK?

[Chaser]

Yes it was (I also attached a screenshot in my previous post).

[evil ryu]

I have a suggestion.

Can you add in the video info field the duration of the film so a person can choose best advanced settings according to it?

[nechto]

Some problems with sound shift ...

have some dvd files ... the worst :
"VTS_01_1 AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 2887406ms.ac3"

second is not so bad - only .5-1 sec sound shift at beginning, but about 4-5 sec at the end ... (fps sync ??)
"VTS_01_4 AC3 T01 2_0ch 128Kbps DELAY -136ms.ac3"

[len0x]

Originally posted by evil ryu
Can you add in the video info field the duration of the film so a person can choose best advanced settings according to it?

Its been asked so many times that I should put in the FAQ - its impossible as AutoGK doesn't parse input files before job is started.

[len0x]

Originally posted by nechto
Some problems with sound shift ...


You should try manually different versions of DGIndex and report results in DGIndex forum where Neuron2 might be able to solve this.

[nechto]

You should try manually different versions of DGIndex and report results in DGIndex forum where Neuron2 might be able to solve this.



Thanx. But may be you can made some feature as manual sound time correcting shift (in case of very big shift ?) ??? And may be something like preview with sound ...

[evil ryu]

Originally posted by len0x
Its been asked so many times that I should put in the FAQ - its impossible as AutoGK doesn't parse input files before job is started.

Oops, sorry.

[len0x]

Originally posted by nechto
Thanx. But may be you can made some feature as manual sound time correcting shift (in case of very big shift ?) ??? And may be something like preview with sound ...

Preview with sound its not possible so you can't estimate how much the sound is off before you start encoding and therefore option for delay is not needed - you just remux AVI in VDubMod manually afterwards.

[nechto]

ok.thanx :))

[Alwayscamp]

Len0x

My source resolution is 704x480 for some reson i can't get autogk to output the right AR. I tried using the manual AR at 1:1 to get the correct resolution but as you can see it gives an output file which is 704x528.
I just wanted to let you know so you would be able to fix it and ask if there is a workaround.
thansk alot

log file

[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] AutoGK 2.01b
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Job started.
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Input dir: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Output file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\Our Wedding Video.avi
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Audio: Unknown language
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Format: .AVI
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Target size: 4450Mb
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 704 pixels
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Started encoding.
[3/27/2005 7:08:48 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_3.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_4.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_5.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_6.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Processing file: I:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_7.VOB
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Manual aspect ratio: 1:1
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Source resolution: 704x480
[3/27/2005 7:11:36 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/27/2005 7:11:37 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Output will contain 312150 frames
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Audio size: 333,283,328 bytes (317.84 Mb)
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Overhead: 1,735,936 bytes (1.66 Mb)
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Video size: 4,331,143,936 bytes (4130.50 Mb)
[3/27/2005 7:22:20 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Duration was: 29 minutes 23 seconds
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Speed was: 8.85 fps.
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 54.78
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Using softer resizer.
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Chosen resolution is: 704x528 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 57.30
[3/27/2005 7:51:44 PM] Running first pass.
[3/28/2005 12:51:59 AM] Duration was: 5 hours 0 minutes 15 seconds
[3/28/2005 12:51:59 AM] Speed was: 17.33 fps.
[3/28/2005 12:52:00 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 55.05
[3/28/2005 12:52:00 AM] Running second pass.

[len0x]

This is due to 4:3 auto-detection (i.e. if source is considered close to 4:3 its forced to match that). I'm thinking about removing this feature at all... (especially now when we have AVI input). But this will probably result in non 4:3 AR in most of cases.

[Hobojobo]

What about force 4:3 AR hidden option, instead of skipping it.:)

[sam_254]

Hi!

Len0x, this is best tool I have used.

Have little suggestions :)

very need logo over movie (little bmp or jpg picture right bottom on screen - for example)

now AutoGk understand for input, AVI files - that's COOL !!!, possible added support for AVS scripts ?

sometimes need insert little clip before big movie,
after encoding do this very difficult (framerate and etc) - this is will be nice feature..

Good luck.
P.S. You are doing big job.
P.S.S. Sorry for my english.

[aaabbb]

Size problem with the lastest stable release (I've gone through the FAQ and my whole XP system is just clean-installed. XVID is the only codec I've ever installed for the new system.)

The target size is 700MB. But it turned out the result size is 703 MB (737,255,050 bytes). Only 3MB difference, is it normal?

[3/29/2005 8:23:14 AM] Audio size: 111,898,152 bytes (106.71 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:14 AM] Overhead: 6,640,768 bytes (6.33 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Subtitles size: 1,033,866 bytes (0.99 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Video size: 614,430,414 bytes (585.97 Mb)

By the way, before reinstallation, I compressed another DVD and the result size is 716MB (and I'm pretty sure the codec wasn't messed up at that moment).

Thank you very much.

Complete log:
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] AutoGK 1.95
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Job started.
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Input dir: C:\DVDVOLUME\VIDEO_TS
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Output file: Z:\data\I\I.avi
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Audio: English
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Subtitles: English / Normal Captions : Wide/Letterbox
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Codec: XviD
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Started encoding.
[3/29/2005 7:34:03 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Processing file: C:\DVDVOLUME\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_ANGLE_1_1.VOB
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Processing file: C:\DVDVOLUME\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_ANGLE_1_2.VOB
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Processing file: C:\DVDVOLUME\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_ANGLE_1_3.VOB
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Processing file: C:\DVDVOLUME\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_ANGLE_1_4.VOB
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Found NTSC source.
[3/29/2005 7:38:29 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[3/29/2005 7:38:30 AM] Output will contain 166019 frames
[3/29/2005 7:38:30 AM] Decoding audio.
[3/29/2005 7:45:43 AM] Normalizing audio.
[3/29/2005 7:52:46 AM] Encoding audio.
[3/29/2005 8:06:29 AM] Preparing subtitles.
[3/29/2005 8:22:59 AM] Compressing subtitles.
[3/29/2005 8:23:14 AM] Audio size: 111,898,152 bytes (106.71 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:14 AM] Overhead: 6,640,768 bytes (6.33 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Subtitles size: 1,033,866 bytes (0.99 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Video size: 614,430,414 bytes (585.97 Mb)
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Running compressibility test.
[3/29/2005 8:23:15 AM] Writing the following script to Z:\data\I\agk_tmp\I_comptest.avs
[3/29/2005 8:31:32 AM] Duration was: 8 minutes 15 seconds
[3/29/2005 8:31:33 AM] Speed was: 16.74 fps.
[3/29/2005 8:31:34 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 56.81
[3/29/2005 8:31:34 AM] Chosen resolution is: 608x256 ( AR: 2.38 )
[3/29/2005 8:31:34 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 63.53
[3/29/2005 8:31:34 AM] Running first pass.
[3/29/2005 8:31:34 AM] Writing the following script to Z:\data\I\agk_tmp\I_movie.avs
[3/29/2005 10:02:46 AM] Duration was: 1 hour, 31 minutes 10 seconds
[3/29/2005 10:02:46 AM] Speed was: 30.35 fps.
[3/29/2005 10:02:46 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 64.71
[3/29/2005 10:02:46 AM] Running second pass.
[3/29/2005 12:12:24 PM] Duration was: 2 hours 9 minutes 37 seconds
[3/29/2005 12:12:24 PM] Speed was: 21.35 fps.
[3/29/2005 12:12:24 PM] Job finished. Total time: 4 hours 38 minutes 20 seconds

[kilivipin]

I made a xvid rip of a special feature last night. It is 4:3. I noticed that AutoGk has cut off some of the image, on the right side. Also, the image is not centered. Here is a 30 second clip of the avi: Example_avi (http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3T23N6DB61HI23G4C122RXRUKO) .
Now, compare it with these two captures of the original VOB from Windvd. http://img165.exs.cx/img165/6131/cap1038sv.th.jpg (http://img165.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img165&image=cap1038sv.jpg)

Here is an image where you can really see what I am talking about :
http://img205.exs.cx/img205/8981/cap1041zh.th.jpg (http://img205.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img205&image=cap1041zh.jpg)

And of course, here is my logfile:
[28/03/05 19:52:20] AutoGK 2.01b
[28/03/05 19:52:20] OS: Win98SE (4.10.67766446).1
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Job started.
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Input dir: C:\taylor meade
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Output file: C:\taylor meade\taylor meade.avi
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Output codec: XviD
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Audio: English
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Subtitles: none
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Format: .AVI
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Target size: 30Mb
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 160Kbps
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Started encoding.
[28/03/05 19:52:20] Demuxing and indexing.
[28/03/05 19:52:42] Processing file: C:\taylor meade\VTS_02_PGC_03_1.VOB
[28/03/05 19:52:42] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[28/03/05 19:52:43] Source resolution: 720x576
[28/03/05 19:52:43] Found PAL source.
[28/03/05 19:52:43] Analyzing source.
[28/03/05 19:57:07] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 74.73
[28/03/05 19:57:07] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[28/03/05 19:57:07] Output will contain 6291 frames
[28/03/05 19:57:07] Decoding audio.
[28/03/05 19:57:50] Normalizing audio.
[28/03/05 19:57:58] Encoding audio.
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Using bitrate spikes control.
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Audio size: 5,030,400 bytes (4.80 Mb)
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Overhead: 74,752 bytes (0.07 Mb)
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Video size: 26,352,128 bytes (25.13 Mb)
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Running compressibility test.
[28/03/05 20:00:04] Writing the following script to C:\taylor meade\agk_tmp\taylor meade_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\taylor meade\agk_tmp\taylor meade.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(47,15)
===========================================================
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Duration was: 14 minutes 42 seconds
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Speed was: 2.28 fps.
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Compressibility percentage is: 49.36
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Chosen resolution is: 528x400 ( AR: 1.32 )
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Predicted comptest value is: 71.79
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Running first pass.
[28/03/05 20:14:47] Writing the following script to C:\taylor meade\agk_tmp\taylor meade_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AUTOGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\taylor meade\agk_tmp\taylor meade.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 528
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[28/03/05 20:37:08] Duration was: 22 minutes 20 seconds
[28/03/05 20:37:09] Speed was: 4.69 fps.
[28/03/05 20:37:09] Expected quality of first pass size: 69.32
[28/03/05 20:37:09] Running second pass.
[28/03/05 21:04:33] Duration was: 27 minutes 23 seconds
[28/03/05 21:04:33] Speed was: 3.83 fps.
[28/03/05 21:04:33] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 12 minutes 13 seconds


If you are wondering why it was so slow, it's cos I am running on a PII.
I have tried to be as thourough as possible, but if there is anything that I have left out, then pleae tell me. Also, I might mot be able to reply for a while.
Thanks.

[PkmoNk]

Wow, just encoded an episode from a DVD and the quality was just horrible!
48 minutes 202mB
i set it at 175mB in AutoGK too, and it came up to 202mB.
and from that, you can tell my expectations aren't high, but i usually get viewable quality from 150mB for a 45min clip.

any help? or ill just have to do the manual way.

[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] AutoGK 2.01b
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Job started.
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Input dir: D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Output file: D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\01.avi
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Output codec: XviD
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Audio: Chinese
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Subtitles: none
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Format: .AVI
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Target size: 175Mb
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Started encoding.
[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Processing file: D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Processing file: D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Found NTSC source.
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 82.30
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 2.02
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 6.31
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 91.67
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Output will contain 87453 frames
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Decoding audio.
[3/29/2005 11:31:53 AM] Normalizing audio.
[3/29/2005 11:41:26 AM] Encoding audio.
[3/29/2005 11:45:55 AM] Audio size: 50,362,656 bytes (48.03 Mb)
[3/29/2005 11:45:55 AM] Overhead: 3,498,112 bytes (3.34 Mb)
[3/29/2005 11:45:55 AM] Video size: 129,640,032 bytes (123.63 Mb)
[3/29/2005 11:45:55 AM] Running compressibility test.
[3/29/2005 11:45:55 AM] Writing the following script to D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\agk_tmp\01_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\agk_tmp\01.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Duration was: 5 minutes 50 seconds
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Speed was: 12.47 fps.
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 7.71
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Using softer resizer.
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 8.06
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Running first pass.
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Writing the following script to D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\agk_tmp\01_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\LUCKIEST_1_2\01\agk_tmp\01.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/29/2005 12:48:43 PM] Duration was: 56 minutes 54 seconds
[3/29/2005 12:48:43 PM] Speed was: 25.61 fps.
[3/29/2005 12:48:44 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 8.15
[3/29/2005 12:48:44 PM] Running second pass.
[3/29/2005 2:21:52 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 33 minutes 8 seconds
[3/29/2005 2:21:52 PM] Speed was: 15.65 fps.
[3/29/2005 2:21:52 PM] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 57 minutes 35 seconds

[buzzqw]

had you see

[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 7.71
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Using softer resizer.
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 8.06
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 82.30
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 2.02
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 6.31
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 91.67
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source is considered to be interlaced.


try withou fixed resize and automatic audio choice
Interlaced and 4/3 material need more bitrate

BHH

[PkmoNk]

Originally posted by buzzqw
had you see

[3/29/2005 11:24:17 AM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 7.71
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Using softer resizer.
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/29/2005 11:51:48 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 8.06
[3/29/2005 11:26:23 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 82.30
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 2.02
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 6.31
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 91.67
[3/29/2005 11:30:15 AM] Source is considered to be interlaced.


try withou fixed resize and automatic audio choice
Interlaced and 4/3 material need more bitrate

BHH

I've tried Auto-resize + auto-audio,
audio came out fine, except the resize, was horrendous! it came out to be a tiny little box. lol

didnt see any options for interlace.
4/3 material? im thinking thats the aspect ratio.. but i usually get fine quality from other releases 45min clips 150~190mB sizes.

[len0x]

Originally posted by PkmoNk
audio came out fine, except the resize, was horrendous! it came out to be a tiny little box. lol


What did expect at this compressibility(8%!!!)? A miracle?
Usual encode of 45min at 512x384 takes upto 350Mb to archieve good quality(on a relatively clean source). You however trying to get 50% more resolution into half size of that for clearly hard compressible source.

[Wolfman]

Autogk2.01b
"the function setmode was called on a stream that hasnt been previously initialized with setsource"
virtualdub error

Input avi of Qfilm.avi with xvid/ac3 sound 2.2gb (over 2gb!)
output size of 1500 with xvid/mp3

ALso no AUdio encoded??
is this new ??
log
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] AutoGK 2.01b
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Job started.
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Input file: qfilm.avi
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Input codec: DivX 5
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Source duration: 1h 41mn
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Output file: F:\Media\Movies\s_agk.avi
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Output codec: DivX
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Audio: 448 Kbps
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Subtitles: none
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Format: .AVI
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Target size: 1500Mb
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 176Kbps
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Started encoding.
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Source resolution: 720x416
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Source fps: 25
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Output will contain 151500 frames
[29/03/2005 14:18:29] Analyzing source.
[29/03/2005 14:33:10] Source is considered to be progressive.
[29/03/2005 14:33:10] Demuxing audio.
[29/03/2005 14:35:41] Decoding audio.
[29/03/2005 14:39:02] Normalizing audio.
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Encoding audio.
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Using bitrate spikes control.
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Audio size: 0 bytes (0.00 Mb)
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Overhead: 5,513,728 bytes (5.26 Mb)
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Video size: 1,567,350,272 bytes (1494.74 Mb)
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Target bitrate is: 2069kbps
[29/03/2005 14:41:17] Running compressibility test.
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Duration was: 12 minutes 36 seconds
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Speed was: 10.01 fps.
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Compressibility percentage is: 24.50
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Using softer resizer.
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Chosen resolution is: 464x272 ( AR: 1.71 )
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Predicted comptest value is: 61.00
[29/03/2005 14:53:54] Running first pass.
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Duration was: 1 hour, 6 minutes 30 seconds
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Speed was: 37.96 fps.
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Warning! Found different number of frames: 157092
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Audio size: 0 bytes (0.00 Mb)
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Overhead: 5,717,248 bytes (5.45 Mb)
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Video size: 1,567,146,752 bytes (1494.55 Mb)
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Target bitrate is: 1995kbps
[29/03/2005 16:00:25] Running second pass.

Is this a non-recoverable error? (eg abort and restart)

[giorel]

All the times I try to get AGK from its site, instead of the download I get a blank page. Why?

[lark]

do you have cookies enabled?
regards
t :)

[Taurus]

Originally posted by giorel
All the times I try to get AGK from its site, instead of the download I get a blank page. Why?
Check your Internet settings.
Read the FAQ's @ AutoGk Website, first lines maybe describe your problem.
Misconfigured Firewalls sometimes lead to this behaviour or WinXP SP2 :D

Cheers

Taurus

[giorel]

Thanks to everyone, but every page at the AGK site is unreachable for me: every address I try to reach, I get only a blank page. I don't have SP2. Cookies are partially enabled, but I never met this situation at other sites. I've used two browsers (IE6 and K-Meleon) with the same result.

[buzzqw]

some GK/AutoGK programs can be downloaded from this page

http://www.64k.it/andres/allinone.htm

BHH

[Taurus]

Originally posted by giorel
Thanks to everyone, but every page at the AGK site is unreachable for me: every address I try to reach, I get only a blank page. I don't have SP2. Cookies are partially enabled, but I never met this situation at other sites. I've used two browsers (IE6 and K-Meleon) with the same result.
Read this: www.pcsupport.dk/software/htmlprotector.html
Just reset all your IE settings to defaults.
If you messed up the host file, clean it.
If your ISP is doing some filtering, well I don't know...

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Wolfman
Input avi of Qfilm.avi with xvid/ac3 sound 2.2gb (over 2gb!)
output size of 1500 with xvid/mp3
ALso no AUdio encoded??


I find certain bitrates for CBR encoding in LAME problematic (for instance 240kbps won't work). Try different bitrate or VBR.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hobojobo
What about force 4:3 AR hidden option, instead of skipping it.:)

I was thinking the same...

[len0x]

Originally posted by aaabbb
The target size is 700MB. But it turned out the result size is 703 MB (737,255,050 bytes). Only 3MB difference, is it normal?

By the way, before reinstallation, I compressed another DVD and the result size is 716MB (and I'm pretty sure the codec wasn't messed up at that moment).


Fluctuations of 2-3Mb can happen from time to time, but 16Mb oversize should not have happened. If you come across that again please post your log file.

[nechto]

Another problem with sound ..

Desc.:
I have DVD files on my HDD,
when I start DVD by .ifo - DVD plays normally :
firstly it shows me small intro _without_sound_ (intro1)
then I chose (maybe) options and start video - video starts _without_any_intro_ and with sound - all work perfectly.

when i trying to backup my DVD in file mode - i chose VTS_01_0.VOB and program say that there are no any audio within (!!! no audio track).

When I trying to view VTS_01_0.VOB (not IFO) by Media Player Classic - all plays ok, but firstly it shows me intro_without_sound and then plays movie.

[Wolfman]

second run worked ok .. I suspect it was thte fact that some programs need to be run once to establish their credentials? However the new file is a bit suspect eg the width and height see below
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] AutoGK 2.01b
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Job started.
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Input file: school_of_rock.avi
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Input codec: DivX 5
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Source duration: 1h 41mn
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Output file: E:\Media\Movies\Dvd006\school_of_rock_agk.avi
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Output codec: DivX
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Audio: 448 Kbps
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Subtitles: none
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Format: .AVI
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Target size: 1500Mb
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Started encoding.
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Source resolution: 720x416
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Source fps: 25
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Output will contain 151500 frames
[02/04/2005 03:56:09] Analyzing source.
[02/04/2005 04:12:36] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.00
[02/04/2005 04:12:36] Source is considered to be progressive.
[02/04/2005 04:12:36] Demuxing audio.
[02/04/2005 04:19:21] Decoding audio.
[02/04/2005 04:24:54] Normalizing audio.
[02/04/2005 04:29:56] Encoding audio.
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Using bitrate spikes control.
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Audio size: 103,534,872 bytes (98.74 Mb)
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Overhead: 9,774,720 bytes (9.32 Mb)
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Video size: 1,459,554,408 bytes (1391.94 Mb)
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Target bitrate is: 1927kbps
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Running compressibility test.
[02/04/2005 04:38:16] Writing the following script to E:\Media\Movies\Dvd006\agk_tmp\school_of_rock_agk_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("E:\Media\Movies\Dvd006\school_of_rock.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
===========================================================
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Duration was: 13 minutes 45 seconds
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Speed was: 9.18 fps.
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Compressibility percentage is: 22.81
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Using softer resizer.
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Chosen resolution is: 432x256 ( AR: 1.69 )
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Predicted comptest value is: 64.80
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Running first pass.
[02/04/2005 04:52:02] Writing the following script to E:\Media\Movies\Dvd006\agk_tmp\school_of_rock_agk_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("E:\Media\Movies\Dvd006\school_of_rock.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 432
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Duration was: 1 hour, 10 minutes 24 seconds
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Speed was: 35.86 fps.
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Warning! Found different number of frames: 157092
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Audio size: 103,534,872 bytes (98.74 Mb)
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Overhead: 10,135,552 bytes (9.67 Mb)
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Video size: 1,459,193,576 bytes (1391.60 Mb)
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Target bitrate is: 1858kbps
[02/04/2005 06:02:27] Running second pass.
[02/04/2005 07:06:33] Duration was: 1 hour, 4 minutes 5 seconds
[02/04/2005 07:06:33] Speed was: 40.85 fps.
[02/04/2005 07:06:33] Job finished. Total time: 3 hours 10 minutes 24 seconds

ALL i really want to do is to get it below 2.0gb so it will play on my standalone

This was from an original encode using 75% quality mode( thumbs down for quality encoding) :angry:
The video only (original file) comes to 1.9gb (1,923,034kb) reported as 1.83gb under windoze. And where do those extra spooky frames come from?

[len0x]

First, I have a sticky specifically for AVI input support in this very forum where all the problem about this new mode should be reported. Second, compressibility of the source can be changed significally by playback filters (i.e. if you're using FILM option of DivX media filter for instance). To make sure it stays the same you have to disable any PP in dshow filter decoding the video. Please reply in the other thread if you have any followup to this.

P.S. You should not be concered about frame difference - that is fixed for 2.02.

[bourtzovlakas]

A small bug in the log window of v.2.02...
Last night, i did a 2-job encode(Oceans 12, Oldboy)...
Here is the log of the first job...

[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] AutoGK 2.02b
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] OS: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Job started.
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Input dir: D:\OCEANS_TWELVE\VIDEO_TS
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Output file: D:\DivX\Ocean 12\Ocean 12.avi
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Output codec: XviD
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Audio: Korean AC3 2ch
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Subtitles: none
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Format: .AVI
[7/4/2005 1:38:16 ðì] Target quality: 75%

The resulted .avi has the right audio track(English AC3 6ch)...
The audio track wrongfully mentioned in the logs, is from the second job...

Here are the stream information files

Oceans 12
0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide] / LBA: 33709 / PTS: 00:01:02.441 / Delay: 62312ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Letterbox] / LBA: 33708 / PTS: 00:01:02.441 / Delay: 62312ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Français - [SubPicture 02: Wide] / LBA: 26732 / PTS: 00:00:43.822 / Delay: 43693ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Français - [SubPicture 02: Letterbox] / LBA: 26731 / PTS: 00:00:43.822 / Delay: 43693ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Español - [SubPicture 03: Wide] / LBA: 26730 / PTS: 00:00:43.822 / Delay: 43693ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Español - [SubPicture 03: Letterbox] / LBA: 26729 / PTS: 00:00:43.822 / Delay: 43693ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 11660 / PTS: 00:00:00.036 / Delay: -92ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 11661 / PTS: 00:00:00.036 / Delay: -92ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Français / LBA: 11659 / PTS: 00:00:00.036 / Delay: -92ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 11655 / PTS: 00:00:00.128 / Delay: 0ms

Oldboy
0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 10320 / PTS: 00:00:23.291 / Delay: 23240ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 861 / PTS: 00:00:01.931 / Delay: 1880ms
0x22 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 43 / PTS: 00:00:00.211 / Delay: 160ms
0x23 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 1246 / PTS: 00:00:02.611 / Delay: 2560ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean / LBA: 12 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean / LBA: 11 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean - Director's Comments / LBA: 9 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean - Director's Comments / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0x85 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean - Director's Comments / LBA: 7 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0x8A - Audio - DTS / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Korean / LBA: 10 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.051 / Delay: 0ms

[len0x]

yep, my bad :)

[nechto]

also ... in features there is (as I understood) - auto name func. - by directory name ... I can't use this ... may be cause all of my files lays on "<name>\VIDEO_TS\vts_01_x.vob" ??

[len0x]

I don't understand what the problem is

[nechto]

how works autoname function ??

[len0x]

What are you trying to do and what do you think exactly is not working?

[nechto]

I have <name>\VIDEO_TS\*.vob files.
In files mode I'm trying to set output to <name>.avi - as I expect this name automatically by autogk, but it get me only vts_01_1.avi ...

Somewhere - i can't remeber (i haven't now doc on autogk)- i read, that autogk has autorename function ... May be I not fully understand the feature and it's another function ???

[len0x]

vts_01_1.avi will contain video from ALL the vobs. AutoGK doesn't auto-rename anything.

[nechto]

Ok. My fault.

Also - It seems, when vob's have first chapter without audio (if them simply copied by windows copy function - far,totalcmd,explorer) autogk can't see audio at all.
My Solution - to grab vobs by dvddecrypter without first chapter (this case of first chapter is Warning or something like this - not part of film).Also dvddecrypter can grab from virtual devices ...

[alfa156]

does this version still have the stupid spyware?

[Chaser]

It still contains this dll. It's however easily removable - this was already discussed elsewhere - use the search!

[len0x]

Please give it a stress test as bugs are expected in audio/subtitle parts. XviD 1.1 is finally recommended to use with it (in fact it turned to use it along with DXN HT profiles in ESS compatibility mode).

[bourtzovlakas]

:thanks:
...for the support of Xvid 1.1!

What are the settings of Xvid 1.1, in AutoGK??
Is any of the new features enabled by default??

[Nikse555]

I'm having a strange problem - when I select an avi file for input I immediately get the error:

---------------------------
Auto Gordian Knot
---------------------------
Cannot open file "C:\DOCUME~1\NiXe\LOCALS~1\Temp\agk.tbl". The system cannot find the file specified.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


I have tried re-installing autoAG (from latest stable) without any luck. Error happens with both 2.02 and 2.05 running on WinXp pro.

Any ideas?

[len0x]

Originally posted by bourtzovlakas

What are the settings of Xvid 1.1, in AutoGK??
Is any of the new features enabled by default??

The same as previously apart from VHQ for bframes and trellis are enabled now (lets see how it'll do).

[len0x]

Originally posted by Nikse555
I'm having a strange problem - when I select an avi file for input I immediately get the error:


try running MediaInfo (in tools dir of AutoGK) from command line and see if you have any errors - may be you're missing some system dlls...

[Kisou]

So, uh...I can't seem to download this off the main AutoGK site. :confused:

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Kisou
So, uh...I can't seem to download this off the main AutoGK site. :confused:
See the Official AutoGk FAQ, first entry: 0: Downloads:mad:
Or use search ;)

============================
OFFICIAL AUTOGK FAQ
============================
0. Downloads

Main AutoGK download mirrors are protected from direct linking via "referrers" feature, so if you're getting an error saying something like "You don't have permission to access XXX..." make sure you enable referrers propagation in you browser/firewall/download manager.
============================


Cheers

Taurus

[ukb008]

I have downloaded ALL versions of AGK from its download page, and never had any problems whatsoever. Programs should perhaps be always downloaded from their original sites, because only there the latest infos and latest versions will be available.

This download blue is perhaps a non-issue.

Regards.

[Mouse]

FYI - 720x576 (4:3) -> Output to 512x384 (4:3) is broken.
It makes 576x352, which is way out of OAR.

Tried .aspect - doesnt seeme to work at all (does write a .aspect to the dir though)
Tried .ITU, does nothing.
Tried force 4:3 - does nothing.

Log File :

[2005-04-12 23:59:37] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Job started.
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Input file: sample.mpg
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\sample.avi
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Started encoding.
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\sample.mpg
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-12 23:59:37] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-12 23:59:53] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,48
[2005-04-12 23:59:53] Source is considered to be progressive.
[2005-04-12 23:59:53] Output will contain 1520 frames
[2005-04-12 23:59:53] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Forcing ITU resize method.
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Audio1 size: 1,015,790 bytes (0.97 Mb)
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Overhead: 60,800 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Video size: 6,263,442 bytes (5.97 Mb)
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-12 23:59:56] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.09401709401709
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.38) || (input_par < 1.28) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Duration was: 44 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Speed was: 34,30 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Compressibility percentage is: 72,76
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Chosen resolution is: 512x352 ( AR: 1,45 )
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Predicted comptest value is: 72,76
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Running first pass.
[2005-04-13 00:00:41] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.09401709401709
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.38) || (input_par < 1.28) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:01:09] Duration was: 27 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:01:09] Speed was: 54,62 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:01:09] Expected quality of first pass size: 73,27
[2005-04-13 00:01:09] Running second pass.
[2005-04-13 00:02:00] Duration was: 51 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:02:00] Speed was: 29,60 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:02:00] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 23 seconds


Edit : Tried with several different files, that i know have worked before. All the same, output is borked.

[bourtzovlakas]

I may be tottaly off...
...but maybe the "force ITU resize" causes the problem...
Just a stupid guess...

[Mouse]

bourtzovlakas,

i tried with that unset to ofcourse.

[Mouse]

And a new test, now with a new file. Still way out of OAR.

Log File :

[2005-04-13 00:14:17] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Job started.
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Input file: Video0413-0007(CVBS).mpg
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Video0413-0007(CVBS).avi
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Started encoding.
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Video0413-0007(CVBS).mpg
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-13 00:14:17] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-13 00:14:32] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[2005-04-13 00:14:32] Source is considered to be progressive.
[2005-04-13 00:14:32] Output will contain 1504 frames
[2005-04-13 00:14:32] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-13 00:14:36] Audio1 size: 997,999 bytes (0.95 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:14:36] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:14:36] Video size: 6,281,873 bytes (5.99 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:14:36] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-13 00:14:36] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\Video0413-0007(CVBS)_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\Video0413-0007(CVBS).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Duration was: 39 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Speed was: 37,75 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Compressibility percentage is: 96,16
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Using sharper matrix
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Chosen resolution is: 512x368 ( AR: 1,39 )
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Predicted comptest value is: 72,22
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Running first pass.
[2005-04-13 00:15:15] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\Video0413-0007(CVBS)_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\Video0413-0007(CVBS).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:15:41] Duration was: 25 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:15:41] Speed was: 59,97 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:15:41] Expected quality of first pass size: 70,46
[2005-04-13 00:15:41] Running second pass.
[2005-04-13 00:16:19] Duration was: 38 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:16:19] Speed was: 39,21 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:16:19] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 2 seconds

[Mouse]

Loaded same file in VirtualDub Mod, cropped it, rezised it to 512x384, compressed with MJPEG. Works.

Heres the log :

[2005-04-13 00:22:28] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Job started.
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Input file: sample.avi
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Input codec: MJPEG
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Source duration: 1mn 120ms
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample_agk.avi
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Audio1: 1411 Kbps PCM 2ch
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Started encoding.
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Source resolution: 512x384
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Source fps: 25
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Output will contain 1503 frames
[2005-04-13 00:22:28] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-13 00:23:03] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00

Note : I did a deinterlace with VirtualDub Mod here.

[2005-04-13 00:23:03] Source is considered to be progressive.
[2005-04-13 00:23:03] Demuxing audio.
[2005-04-13 00:23:06] Normalizing audio.
[2005-04-13 00:23:07] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-13 00:23:10] Audio1 size: 997,999 bytes (0.95 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:23:10] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:23:10] Video size: 6,281,873 bytes (5.99 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:23:10] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-13 00:23:10] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\sample_agk_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Duration was: 43 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Speed was: 34,89 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Compressibility percentage is: 84,54
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1,33 )
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Predicted comptest value is: 84,54
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Running first pass.
[2005-04-13 00:23:54] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\sample_agk_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:24:20] Duration was: 26 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:24:20] Speed was: 56,16 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:24:20] Expected quality of first pass size: 84,28
[2005-04-13 00:24:20] Running second pass.
[2005-04-13 00:25:02] Duration was: 41 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:25:02] Speed was: 36,05 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:25:02] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 33 seconds

Going to test not to crop it, and just do a 720x576 MJPEG.

Edit : Back with a uncropped .avi at 720x576 using VirtualDub Mod. Now the resulotion is even more odd :) - size is now 512x416

Log File :

[2005-04-13 00:36:01] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Job started.
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Input file: sample.test.avi
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Input codec: MJPEG
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Source duration: 1mn
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample.test_agk.avi
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Audio1: 1411 Kbps PCM 2ch
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Started encoding.
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Source fps: 25
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Output will contain 1500 frames
[2005-04-13 00:36:01] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-13 00:37:12] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[2005-04-13 00:37:12] Source is considered to be progressive.
[2005-04-13 00:37:12] Demuxing audio.
[2005-04-13 00:37:16] Normalizing audio.
[2005-04-13 00:37:16] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-13 00:37:20] Audio1 size: 1,003,013 bytes (0.96 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:37:20] Overhead: 60,032 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:37:20] Video size: 6,276,987 bytes (5.99 Mb)
[2005-04-13 00:37:20] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-13 00:37:20] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\sample.test_agk_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample.test.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Duration was: 58 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Speed was: 25,42 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Compressibility percentage is: 67,76
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Chosen resolution is: 512x416 ( AR: 1,23 )
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Predicted comptest value is: 67,76
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Running first pass.
[2005-04-13 00:38:19] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\agk_tmp\sample.test_agk_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = DirectShowSource("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\sample.test.avi",25).KillAudio()
movie = isRGB(movie) ? ConvertToYUY2(movie) : movie
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=0,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 00:39:02] Duration was: 43 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:39:02] Speed was: 34,47 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:39:02] Expected quality of first pass size: 65,89
[2005-04-13 00:39:02] Running second pass.
[2005-04-13 00:40:05] Duration was: 1 minute, 2 seconds
[2005-04-13 00:40:05] Speed was: 23,95 fps.
[2005-04-13 00:40:05] Job finished. Total time: 4 minutes 3 seconds

Not sure, but my guess is that DGIndex is fubar.

[evil ryu]

Currently I have some problems with final dimension of the avi. If I set 896 MB I get 905 MB.

[Mouse]

Back with 1.95 - all in order, works.

[bloodrush]

AR problem in 2.05b here too.
Encoding a 4:3 source STTNG episode.
Encoding in 1.95 fixed res of 512 gives 512x384
Encoding same ep in 2.05b fixed res of 512 gives 512x400
No hidden options messed with, all defaults except for the fixed res.

--bloodrush

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
FYI - 720x576 (4:3) -> Output to 512x384 (4:3) is broken.
It makes 576x352, which is way out of OAR.


The new versions 4:3 autodetection works different now - previosuly all ARs < 1.4 were considered 4:3, now its 1.28< AR<1.38.

As I can see from the logs it varies from 1.25 to 1.39 that is out of reach for 4:3 detection - do you really want to crop away that many good material to achieve 4:3 ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by bloodrush
AR problem in 2.05b here too.
Encoding a 4:3 source STTNG episode.
Encoding in 1.95 fixed res of 512 gives 512x384
Encoding same ep in 2.05b fixed res of 512 gives 512x400
No hidden options messed with, all defaults except for the fixed res.


It is actuall AR. Previously AutoGK was always cropping more to get 4:3, now that has to be enabled via hidden options.

[Mouse]

Originally posted by len0x
The new versions 4:3 autodetection works different now - previosuly all ARs < 1.4 were considered 4:3, now its 1.28< AR<1.38.

As I can see from the logs it varies from 1.25 to 1.39 that is out of reach for 4:3 detection - do you really want to crop away that many good material to achieve 4:3 ?

It cuts to much, resulting if i capture someting with subtitles, half the subtitles cuts off. Or if you input a avi, it cuts to less, resulting with black borders under (overscan from TV-capture). Both in wrong AR.

If i just could add images, here so you could see for yourself.

I'll add a URL later for the images.

It looks really odd. The problem is, it deosnt cut of black borders, which is coused by overscan from captured source eg. TV, or cuts to much from the overscan, If you know what i mean?

[Alwayscamp]

[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] AutoGK 2.05b
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Job started.
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Input file: LA Trailer RAW - 5763.avi
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Input codec: dvsd
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Source duration: 1mn 6s 566ms
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Output file: H:\My Video\LA Trailer RAW - 5763_agk.avi
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Output codec: XviD
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Audio1: 1024 Kbps PCM 2ch
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Subtitles: none
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Format: .AVI
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Target size: 5Mb
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 720 pixels
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 64Kbps
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Started encoding.
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Source fps: 29.971
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Manual aspect ratio: 0:1
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Output will contain 1995 frames
[4/12/2005 4:15:45 PM] Analyzing source.
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 100.00
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 1.87
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.00
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 98.13
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[4/12/2005 4:18:20 PM] Demuxing audio.
[4/12/2005 4:18:35 PM] Normalizing audio.
[4/12/2005 4:18:36 PM] Encoding audio.
[4/12/2005 4:18:41 PM] Audio1 size: 527,160 bytes (0.50 Mb)
[4/12/2005 4:18:41 PM] Overhead: 79,744 bytes (0.08 Mb)
[4/12/2005 4:18:41 PM] Video size: 4,635,976 bytes (4.42 Mb)
[4/12/2005 4:18:41 PM] Running compressibility test.
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 28 seconds
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Speed was: 9.55 fps.
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 18.19
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Using softer resizer.
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Chosen resolution is: 720x528 ( AR: 1.36 )
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 18.81
[4/12/2005 4:22:10 PM] Running first pass.
[4/12/2005 4:24:23 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 12 seconds
[4/12/2005 4:24:23 PM] Speed was: 15.00 fps.
[4/12/2005 4:24:23 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 18.92
[4/12/2005 4:24:23 PM] Running second pass.
[4/12/2005 4:27:18 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 55 seconds
[4/12/2005 4:27:18 PM] Speed was: 11.40 fps.
[4/12/2005 4:27:18 PM] Job finished. Total time: 11 minutes 32 seconds

Source resolution: 720x480
Chosen resolution is: 720x528 ( AR: 1.36 )
something is still wrong

i have another source that has black borders and autogk doesn't crop them out ( .avi source ). the black borders are throughout the whole clip not just in parts
please let me know
and thanks again for all your time

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
It cuts to much, resulting if i capture someting with subtitles, half the subtitles cuts off.

Sure, that is what threshold parameter of autocrop for.

Originally posted by Mouse
Or if you input a avi, it cuts to less, resulting with black borders under (overscan from TV-capture).


As clearly stated in input AVI thread - AutoGK does NOT do autocrop for AVI sources by default. You have to enable it via hidden options.

[Mouse]

Originally posted by len0x
Sure, that is what threshold parameter of autocrop for.

As clearly stated in input AVI thread - AutoGK does NOT do autocrop for AVI sources by default. You have to enable it via hidden options.

You are right, my bad, sorry for that.

Still, .mpg (MPEG2) input is fubar imo. (there it cuts to much).

[len0x]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
Source resolution: 720x480
Chosen resolution is: 720x528 ( AR: 1.36 )


you didn't post full log file with avs script inside

P.S. If you have avi input then its better not to touch AR options at all, original AR is kept automatically.
P.P.S. Quality of your encode will be appalling btw...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse

Still, .mpg input is fubar imo. (there it cuts to much).

I'd like to see screenshots.

[Alwayscamp]

i'll redo the job again as i had it set to show vdub log as well so it was too big to post ...
true this is an avi source but i have the exact same problem on a dvd source
i will start with the avi source and i will try without ar correction and see what happens
will post logs soon

[len0x]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
Source resolution: 720x480
Chosen resolution is: 720x528 ( AR: 1.36 )
something is still wrong


Oh, you have DV source! Original AR option doesn't work for DV sources as they have custom AR (1.0925 or 0.909) that is hardcoded.

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
i have another source that has black borders and autogk doesn't crop them out ( .avi source ).

Read the AVI input thread - autocrop is not performed for AVI sources! You have to enable it manually via hidden option.


@All
I would really appreciate if you stop posting input AVI problems here and post them where they belong: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91804

[Mouse]

installed 2.05 again, and o'boy do i feel stupid. The problem is gone on first test. Doing further tests, i'm going to reproduce this :)

Log file :

[2005-04-13 13:23:15] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Job started.
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Input file: sample.mpg
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\sample.avi
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 512 pixels
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Started encoding.
[2005-04-13 13:23:15] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-13 13:23:17] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\sample.mpg
[2005-04-13 13:23:17] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-13 13:23:17] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-13 13:23:17] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-13 13:23:17] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-13 13:23:34] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[2005-04-13 13:23:34] Source is considered to be progressive.
[2005-04-13 13:23:34] Output will contain 1504 frames
[2005-04-13 13:23:34] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Using bitrate spikes control.
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Audio1 size: 1,010,305 bytes (0.96 Mb)
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Video size: 6,269,567 bytes (5.98 Mb)
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-13 13:23:38] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Duration was: 40 seconds
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Speed was: 37,14 fps.
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Compressibility percentage is: 71,59
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Chosen resolution is: 512x384 ( AR: 1,33 )
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Predicted comptest value is: 71,59
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Running first pass.
[2005-04-13 13:24:19] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\LAO\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.06666666666667
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-13 13:24:44] Duration was: 25 seconds
[2005-04-13 13:24:44] Speed was: 59,16 fps.
[2005-04-13 13:24:44] Expected quality of first pass size: 69,56
[2005-04-13 13:24:44] Running second pass.
[2005-04-13 13:25:23] Duration was: 38 seconds
[2005-04-13 13:25:23] Speed was: 38,58 fps.
[2005-04-13 13:25:23] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 7 seconds

[ukb008]

Amazing; this thread runs into 185 pages, with almost 4000 posts and a miilion views. Is this this forum's record?

Where does len0x find the time to read all these posts and answer them civilly? He has handed us the pie (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7770) and now he is expected to make and deliver more and more pies. Amazing.

Regards.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
installed 2.05 again, and o'boy do i feel stupid. The problem is gone on first test. Doing further tests, i'm going to reproduce this :)


So, has it gone?

[Outerspacelord]

I tried 2.05b on two DVDs and on both it choose the wrong subs. I choose the norwegian subs but both times it comes out as danish. Here is the streaminfo:

0x20 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 01: Wide] / LBA: 4120 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 01: Letterbox] / LBA: 4119 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 02: Wide] / LBA: 4127 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 02: Letterbox] / LBA: 4121 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 03: Wide] / LBA: 4118 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 03: Letterbox] / LBA: 4117 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 04: Wide] / LBA: 4125 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 04: Letterbox] / LBA: 4123 / PTS: 00:00:25.740 / Delay: 25680ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / LBA: 7 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.060 / Delay: 0ms

[musicnyman]

can't download beta or stable versions on the site:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at len0x.shellpower.net Port 80

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /download/AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.autogk.net Port 80

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at len0x.leffe.dnsalias.com Port 80

[len0x]

Originally posted by Outerspacelord
I tried 2.05b on two DVDs and on both it choose the wrong subs. I choose the norwegian subs but both times it comes out as danish.

is it reproducable with 1.95 (preview is enough)? If yes, then its probably stream info file problem (i.e. DVdDecrypter's).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by musicnyman
can't download beta or stable versions on the site:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at len0x.shellpower.net Port 80

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /download/AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.autogk.net Port 80

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /AutoGordianKnot.2.05.beta.Update.exe on this server.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at len0x.leffe.dnsalias.com Port 80

C'mon, just one page before this one you can read what's causing this behaviour.
Look for my post there or read AutoGk's FAQ. First entry is about this subject.
Or use the da.. Search button.

Cheers

Taurus

[ukb008]

Posted by len0x, commenting on wrong language in the result:

is it reproducable with 1.95 (preview is enough)? If yes, then its probably stream info file problem (i.e. DVdDecrypter's).

I have seen many DVDs which have authoring errors, like I've seen languages labelled wrongly in the DVD itself: clicking on 'English', for example, launching the French soundtrack. In such cases DVDDecrypter clearly has no way to correct the mistake.

Safer thing to do is to check the DVD up before beginning the rip and transcoding operations.

Regards.

[musicnyman]

Originally posted by Taurus
C'mon, just one page before this one you can read what's causing this behaviour.
Look for my post there or read AutoGk's FAQ. First entry is about this subject.
Or use the da.. Search button.

Cheers

Taurus

i did that, and tried everything. nothing worked before posting this. i'm assuming you're talking about this:

Read this: www.pcsupport.dk/software/htmlprotector.html
Just reset all your IE settings to defaults.
If you messed up the host file, clean it.
If your ISP is doing some filtering, well I don't know...

Cheers

Taurus

and second, i'm using firefox and 10 minutes later, not changing anything, it worked fine. it's fine now, so no worries.

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by len0x
is it reproducable with 1.95 (preview is enough)? If yes, then its probably stream info file problem (i.e. DVdDecrypter's).

I just tried preview with 2.05b and a third and different DVD. Same problem... 2.05b automatically choose the first subs on the list whatever I do.

I will try v1.95, earlier version of DVDDecrypter or even to reinstall Vobsub. But I will not do it before tomorrow cause I have to much to do (zZz:) Running Vosub manually and choosing the .ifo seems to be no problem. Then I get the subs I want.

BTW I have both the forced and external selected under advanced option. Have been no problem before.

I never experienced this before...

[Alwayscamp]

Hi lenox and thanks for this version.
i did an encode of my wedding video which was the original problem i had with wrong ar and it worked fine.
quality was not the best as it was very hard to compress but the AR was correct.

here is the log:

[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] AutoGK 2.05b
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Job started.
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Input dir: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Output file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\Our Wedding Video.avi
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Output codec: XviD
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Audio1: Unknown language AC3 2ch
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Subtitles: none
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Format: .AVI
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Target size: 2100Mb
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 704 pixels
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Started encoding.
[4/15/2005 6:26:36 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_1.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_2.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_3.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_4.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_5.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_6.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Processing file: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\VTS_01_7.VOB
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Manual aspect ratio: 0:1
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Source resolution: 704x480
[4/15/2005 6:29:59 PM] Found NTSC source.
[4/15/2005 6:30:00 PM] Analyzing source.
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 85.89
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 0.79
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 8.30
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 90.91
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Output will contain 312150 frames
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Picking up autocrop parameters.
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Audio1 size: 333,283,328 bytes (317.84 Mb)
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Overhead: 1,735,936 bytes (1.66 Mb)
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Video size: 1,866,990,336 bytes (1780.50 Mb)
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Running compressibility test.
[4/15/2005 6:40:38 PM] Writing the following script to L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\agk_tmp\Our Wedding Video_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\agk_tmp\Our Wedding Video.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=31215,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=31215,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[4/15/2005 9:22:39 PM] Duration was: 2 hours 42 minutes 1 second.
[4/15/2005 9:22:40 PM] Speed was: 1.61 fps.
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 25.92
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Using softer resizer.
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Chosen resolution is: 704x480 ( AR: 1.47 )
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 26.80
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Running first pass.
[4/15/2005 9:22:41 PM] Writing the following script to L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\agk_tmp\Our Wedding Video_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\agk_tmp\Our Wedding Video.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=31215,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=31215,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[4/16/2005 3:14:08 AM] Duration was: 5 hours 51 minutes 26 seconds
[4/16/2005 3:14:08 AM] Speed was: 14.80 fps.
[4/16/2005 3:14:09 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 25.34
[4/16/2005 3:14:09 AM] Running second pass.
[4/16/2005 11:17:14 AM] Duration was: 8 hours 3 minutes 5 seconds
[4/16/2005 11:17:14 AM] Speed was: 10.77 fps.
[4/16/2005 11:17:15 AM] Splitting video into: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\Our Wedding Video.cd1.avi
[4/16/2005 11:18:47 AM] Splitting video into: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\Our Wedding Video.cd2.avi
[4/16/2005 11:20:28 AM] Splitting video into: L:\DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER\Our Wedding Video\Our Wedding Video.cd3.avi
[4/16/2005 11:22:23 AM] Job finished. Total time: 16 hours 55 minutes 46 seconds


thanks alot.
will now try with avi input.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Outerspacelord
2.05b automatically choose the first subs on the list whatever I do.


Yes, it does. Fixed. As I said bugs were expected as I rewrote audio/subs handling.

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by len0x
Yes, it does. Fixed. As I said bugs were expected as I rewrote audio/subs handling.

Thx a lot, I am just trying to help :)

When can we expect next .exe build?

[len0x]

As usual - beginning of the week. Mon/Tue.

[Mouse]

len0x, i havent been able to reproduce the problem when it comes to 4:3. That seeme to work OK now.

But, another problem i can reproduce easy now.

720x576 MPEG2 source with used.
1. 576x336 (no .ITU + fixed width + forced 16:9)
2. 576x320 (with .ITU + fixed width + forced 16:9) used, and what is correct AR of 1.85:1 imo).

Above is with 1.95 of AutoGK

Now with 2.05b

720x576 MPEG2 source used.
1. 576x368 (no .ITU + fixed width + forced 16:9)
2. 576x352 (with .ITU used + fixed width + forced 16:9)

Heres some images :

Orginal Source of 720x576 (uncropped and MPEG2)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/org.source.jpg

AutoGK 1.95 - 576x320 (.ITU used + forced 16:9 + fixed width)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/autogk195.jpg

AutoGK 2.05b - 576x368 (.ITU not used + forced 16:9 + fixed width - AR 1.57)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/autgk205b.576.368.jpg

AutoGK 2.05b - 576x352 (.ITU used + forcec 16:9 + fixed width - AR 1.64)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/autogk205b.576.352.jpg


As you can see, it differs HUGE in size from 1.95.

[ukb008]

I've said this before. The issue of AR isn't cut-and-dried mathemetics; it's a matter of preference. The source may have an inexact AR; this is more often true than not. In cases where the input AR is wrong (howsoever slightly), the AR that comes out of AGK may be one of these three:

1. It may be an exact match of the input AR (i.e., wrong)
2. It may differ from the input AR, making it nearer to (or exactly, if you're lucky) right
3. It may differ from the input AR, making it more wrong.

AR should be correctable according to the viewer's preference. The viewer can do that in PowerDVD, but that's not the point here. The viewer ought to have a finished product coming out of AGK that has an AR either exactly correct according to his perception of the right AR, or very very near to it - so near that it'd be next to impossible to tell the difference.

In other words, the AR issue can't be automated satisfactorily; one of the reasons being that most of the sources have AR that's not exact.

Couple that with how the TV has been set up, and you have a situation more complex than you'd want it to be. But that's also not the issue here. We're talking about a finished product coming out of AGK that has exactly the viewer's idea of the right AR, played in a correctly set up TV or projection device.

The AR issue can only be settled by providing for a custom AR input, with a presribed AR error tolerance. An AR preview panel like the resize preview panel in VDub will perhaps be too much to ask for...

Just a final point. The contention that AR is a subjective issue may not be absolutely correct either. A circle should always look like a circle. If that's the yardstick, then AR isn't subjective at all. In that case, there has to be a mechanism to automatically check a frame that has an end-on view of a circle, and take steps to produce an AR that preserves the 1:1 transverse and vertical diameter ratio of that circle.

Regards.

[Mouse]

ukb008,

AR can eighter be wrong or correct - nothing else.
Any form of zooming, stretching on a TV is wrong.

I use a 16:9 TV, and i often hear people complain that they now bought a 16:9 TV and still see black bars. Ofcourse they see black bars - 16:9 is like that (except for 1.78:1, 1.66:1).

1.85:1 should give black bars (less or more depending on brand and how much they overscan).

2.35:1 gives bigger black bars - which is also correct.

What people tend to beleive is that a 16:9 TV is a "black-bar" saviour. It's complete wrong. Only way to fully get rid of black bars, is to buy a projector.

Not sure if your AR-lesson was ment for me, but i compare with 2 different versions of AutoGK, where the latest imo gives wrong AR, depending on settings.

[ukb008]

Quote:

Not sure if your AR-lesson was ment for me, but i compare with 2 different versions of AutoGK, where the latest imo gives wrong AR, depending on settings.

Far be it from me to give lessons, I am just a long-time happy user of AGK.

AR has nothing to do with the proportions of a TV screen. 16:9 is a generic term, meaning, in general, an AR value bigger than 4:3. The generic 16:9 embraces a large number of AR figures. 2.35:1, 1.78:1, 1.85:1. You name it. Recently I re-did my dear old Ben-Hur (http://imdb.com/title/tt0052618/technical) in XviD, and AGK 1.95 suggested 2.50:1 for a file-size of 790 MB for the part after intermission (a little less than two hours).

It depends on how the director has shot the movie. You can access technical details of the theatrical releases in IMDb (http://imdb.com) and you can readily see that. Beats me what motivates the directors not to adopt a uniform AR figure. But, then, its not a perfect world.

While cropping and resizing, encoding programs encounter the limitation of the dividing factor. Like, the dimentions are to be completely divisible by some number (e.g., 16 or 32). You can have one side measuring 320, for example, but not 323. So, in a frame, if a circle is to kept exactly a circle and that requires one side to be 323, then the encoding program accepts some AR error and makes it 320, or crops away the extra 3 lines. To keep the picture area exact, there is another method: you can have 323 lines of picture and 13 lines of 'blackness', making the side 336, a figure divisible by 16. The problem with this is that the junction between the picture and black areas elevate the bitrate unneccessarily. So, instead of inserting those black lines, the program crops the picture a little, and/or accepts a little AR error, and calculates the AR you get.

You are right - AR can either be wrong, or right. That, for an encoding program like the AGK, of course, holds true if the input AR is exact which, alas, it is often not. I mean, a circle isn't always exactly a circle in the strictest sense.

Regards.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
AutoGK 1.95 - 576x320 (.ITU used + forced 16:9 + fixed width)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/autogk195.jpg

AutoGK 2.05b - 576x352 (.ITU used + forcec 16:9 + fixed width - AR 1.64)

http://pichold.com/up/0504/autogk205b.576.352.jpg


I'd like to see logs for both encodes and capture of _exact_ frames as otherwise it doesn't tell me anything. I haven't changed anything in resizing algorithms between 1.95 and 2.05 so I don't see how they can produce different results on the same source...

[bourtzovlakas]

Hi len0x
Thanks for the new version...
Is something added in the instalation pack of AutoGK?
During install, i get "A digital signature not found" from M$....

[len0x]

its raw XviD inf install... (celtic_druid build)

[bourtzovlakas]

It also attemps to add a new registry value(GrpConv)...
Key:Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
Value:GrpConv
New Data:grpconv-o

Is this normal??

[len0x]

I have no idea - I took INF file from celtic_druid and just launched it.

[idanm19]

-- deleted, sorry, I should use search more often... --

[niamh]

Try the previous page for the answer (and the one before, and before and before)..... :rolleyes:

(and the FAQ, and so on)

[Mouse]

len0x,

I'm re-installing 1.95 in a few minutes, and adding the log from produced with the exact same sample in a few minutes.

Meanwhile, heres log from 2.05b (.ITU + forced 16:9 + fixed width)


[2005-04-18 11:05:30] AutoGK 2.05b
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Job started.
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Input file: sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.avi
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 576 pixels
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Started encoding.
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Manual aspect ratio: 16:9
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-18 11:05:30] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-18 11:05:45] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 46,42
[2005-04-18 11:05:45] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[2005-04-18 11:05:45] Output will contain 1504 frames
[2005-04-18 11:05:45] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Forcing ITU resize method.
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Using bitrate spikes control.
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Audio1 size: 969,567 bytes (0.92 Mb)
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Video size: 6,310,305 bytes (6.02 Mb)
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-18 11:05:50] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Duration was: 42 seconds
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Speed was: 35,23 fps.
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Compressibility percentage is: 56,63
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Chosen resolution is: 576x352 ( AR: 1,64 )
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Predicted comptest value is: 56,63
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Running first pass.
[2005-04-18 11:06:32] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 11:07:01] Duration was: 28 seconds
[2005-04-18 11:07:01] Speed was: 52,17 fps.
[2005-04-18 11:07:01] Expected quality of first pass size: 52,20
[2005-04-18 11:07:01] Running second pass.
[2005-04-18 11:07:41] Duration was: 39 seconds
[2005-04-18 11:07:41] Speed was: 37,62 fps.
[2005-04-18 11:07:41] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 11 seconds

Log from 1.95 (.ITU + forced 16:9 + fíxed width)

[2005-04-18 23:06:03] AutoGK 1.95
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Job started.
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Input file: sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.avi
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Audio: Audio Stream 0
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Codec: XviD
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 576 pixels
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Started encoding.
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Manual aspect ratio: 16:9
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-18 23:06:03] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-18 23:06:19] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 46,42
[2005-04-18 23:06:19] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[2005-04-18 23:06:19] Output will contain 1504 frames
[2005-04-18 23:06:19] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Forcing ITU resize method.
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Forcing encoding with sharp matrix.
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Picking up autocrop parameters.
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Audio size: 969,567 bytes (0.92 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Video size: 6,310,305 bytes (6.02 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-18 23:06:23] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Duration was: 46 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Speed was: 32,21 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Compressibility percentage is: 54,46
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Using softer resizer.
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Chosen resolution is: 576x320 ( AR: 1,80 )
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Predicted comptest value is: 56,96
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Running first pass.
[2005-04-18 23:07:10] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 23:07:41] Duration was: 31 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:07:41] Speed was: 48,42 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:07:41] Expected quality of first pass size: 51,90
[2005-04-18 23:07:41] Running second pass.
[2005-04-18 23:08:23] Duration was: 42 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:08:23] Speed was: 35,73 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:08:23] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 20 seconds


With this log above i like to add a few words.

AutoGK has lately, randomly worked different, atleast for me. What works in one version, does not work in another. When i pull back version that has previously worked, nothing seeme to work any more.
I do allways make a full un-install + reboot from every install.

Anyways,

after i installed 1.95 again, i had the exact same problem as 2.05b - i could not reproduce 576x320 using .ITU. Then it hit me, maybe AutoGK analyze to few frames? - so i did change from 10 to 50, and tada! from the log above you see 576x320 with a AR of 1.80:1 which is about as close as you can get with AutoGK to preserve AR.

Now, i'm going to install 2.06b to test first with 10 frames in there and then 50 frames.

Fingers crossed :)

[Mouse]

Log from 2.06b (.ITU + forced 16:9 + fixed width + analyze 50 frames instead of 10 which is default)

[2005-04-18 23:42:46] AutoGK 2.06b
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Job started.
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Input file: sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Output file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.avi
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Output codec: XviD
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Subtitles: none
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Format: .AVI
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Target size: 7Mb
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 576 pixels
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Started encoding.
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Demuxing and indexing.
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Processing file: C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\sample.mpg
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Manual aspect ratio: 16:9
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Source resolution: 720x576
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Found PAL source.
[2005-04-18 23:42:46] Analyzing source.
[2005-04-18 23:43:02] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 46,42
[2005-04-18 23:43:02] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[2005-04-18 23:43:02] Output will contain 1504 frames
[2005-04-18 23:43:02] Encoding audio.
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Forcing ITU resize method.
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Using bitrate spikes control.
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Picking up autocrop parameters.
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Audio1 size: 969,567 bytes (0.92 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Overhead: 60,160 bytes (0.06 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Video size: 6,310,305 bytes (6.02 Mb)
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Running compressibility test.
[2005-04-18 23:43:06] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(15,15)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Duration was: 43 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Speed was: 34,45 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Compressibility percentage is: 63,02
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Chosen resolution is: 576x320 ( AR: 1,80 )
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Predicted comptest value is: 63,02
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Running first pass.
[2005-04-18 23:43:50] Writing the following script to C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO\WINPVR\Cold.Case.Files\agk_tmp\sample.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.45868945868946
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=0,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=50,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[2005-04-18 23:44:23] Duration was: 32 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:44:23] Speed was: 46,03 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:44:23] Expected quality of first pass size: 57,77
[2005-04-18 23:44:23] Running second pass.
[2005-04-18 23:45:07] Duration was: 43 seconds
[2005-04-18 23:45:07] Speed was: 34,40 fps.
[2005-04-18 23:45:07] Job finished. Total time: 2 minutes 20 seconds

YAY! ;)

len0x, i'm not sure, but would you agree to that 10 frames default in analyzing is a little to low?

[Taurus]

2.06 beta installer gives me this on a Win98 machine:
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/624/bild27xe.png (http://www.imageshack.us)
Translation:
Error @loading from syssetup.
The mentioned file could't be found.

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mouse
len0x, i'm not sure, but would you agree to that 10 frames default in analyzing is a little to low?

I actually wouldn't. The number of frames don't matter that much as which frames are being analyzed. One "bad" frame can screw autocrop in some situations. If you try 9 or 11 frames it might work as well. Alternatively you can tune threshold parameter.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Taurus
2.06 beta installer gives me this on a Win98 machine:


Have you tried exe-installer from his pages?

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Have you tried exe-installer from his pages?

Yes. Exe installer and registration via inf file works ok on this machine.
I think you are talking about this one:
http://www.aziendeassociate.it/./cd///XviD.cvs.head.exe

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

ok, I'll package exe installer instead in the future.

[Outerspacelord]

Is the XviD Celticdruid a full install or just a patch?

Should we uninstall the Koepi build first?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Outerspacelord
Is the XviD Celticdruid a full install or just a patch?

Should we uninstall the Koepi build first?

It's the full encoder with an spartan .inf installer instead of a full installshield .exe installer - not a patch.

It will overwrite the 2 encoder DLL's in the system32 directory with new versions dated 4/10/2005:

xvidcore.dll
xvidvfw.dll

The decoder (xvid.ax) remains unchanged at 12/20/2004

You should NOT uninstall the Koepi build, otherwise you'll probably lose your decoder.

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
It's the full encoder with an spartan .inf installer instead of a full installshield .exe installer - not a patch.

It will overwrite the 2 encoder DLL's in the system32 directory with new versions...

Then it may be called a update or a update patch even if no files are really patched but just overwritten :)

Seems like the celticdruid build are more memory and/or CPU hungry on my Intel system while doing the analyzing part just after DGIndex. Slowing down the whole system a lot just at that part.

[len0x]

CD builds contain everything these days (including xvid.ax dated the same day as the rest of dlls). If you don't like using CD build you can still use Koepi's. But if you use bitrate spike control option without ESS option the you have to use CD build because official beta 2 build produces non-compliant streams with DXN profiles which causes problems with hardware playback.

[Outerspacelord]

Originally posted by len0x
CD builds contain everything these days (including xvid.ax dated the same day as the rest of dlls). If you don't like using CD build you can still use Koepi's. But if you use bitrate spike control option without ESS option the you have to use CD build because official beta 2 build produces non-compliant streams with DXN profiles which causes problems with hardware playback.

So what u are saying is that I do not need to install any XviD before I do the 2.06b install with CD? The decoder settings I can reach through "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe xvid.ax,Configure" anyway, or through WinAmp. I don't care about the system hungry part. Just thought people wanted to know ... ?

THX for everything len0x! Hope u are fine :)

[len0x]

All known problems seem to be solved. New exe installer from CD is bundled (it creates XviD startup group for decoder setting as well).

This version contains one undocumented hidden option: ".newsoftmatrix". When enabled in AutoGK's home dir, it uses ULR CQM from sharktooth - please give it a go and see how do you like it as the soft matrix.

P.S. This version might be the last one for while as I'm going on sabbatical (at least when it come to the new features for AutoGK).

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
All known problems seem to be solved. New exe installer from CD is bundled (it creates XviD startup group for decoder setting as well).

New exe installer works, even on ancient Win98...
Configuration panel is not working correct coz the path to rundll32.exe on Win98 machines is -> C:\Windows. The installer uses ->C:\Windows\system\.
But this is just a blemish task. Everyone with a little knowlege can fix this by changing the desired path himself.

@len0x: Enjoy your sabbat :D

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

Has anyone tried new custom matrix yet? :)

In my tests I could barely see the difference from Jawors (more details and usually slightly higher compressibility, which is a good combination)

[nrk666]

I use AutoGK alot and I really like the fact that its "simple" and meant to stay "simple".

One function that occasionally irritates me and I just wondered if it was for a reason or just an oversight is the Size Selection.

If you set it to Predefined (2CD's) 1400 it is set to auto-split your final avi file into two 700mb files. This functionality is fine, I know why people would want it.

HOWEVER, when I select "Custom" and set it to 1400, it still splits the files when its done. Can this split be removed? ie, if people want to split the files, use Predefined (2CD's) 1400, however if people just really want ONE 1400mb avi file, use Custom 1400 and NOT have it split.
If not, I suppose I could try Custom 1401 or 1399 if the trigger is the 1400 filesize.


Thanks. Great work on this, I use it alot.

[ukb008]

Yes, 1400 filesize is a trigger for the avi to be split. So, as you have said, you are to use 1399 or 1401 to avoid the split.

Regards.

[clone83]

sumthing must be wrong either on my side or on urs because when i try to download the program i get asked to login...?

[ukb008]

len0x's AutoGK FAQ says this about downloads:

0. Downloads

Main AutoGK download mirrors are protected from direct linking via "referrers" feature, so if you're getting an error saying something like "You don't have permission to access XXX..." make sure you enable referrers propagation in you browser/firewall/download manager.

You can, however, try this (http://dvd.box.sk/ddivx.soft.link.php?rid=8156) link for AutoGK update v2.07.

Regards.

[clone83]

thx heaps

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
Has anyone tried new custom matrix yet? :)

In my tests I could barely see the difference from Jawors (more details and usually slightly higher compressibility, which is a good combination)
Hi len0x,

Back from a trip, tried your new softmatrix: great, will give details in sharktooth post

Did

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Has anyone tried new custom matrix yet? :)

My 2 cents:
Just downloaded the two example avis mentioned in Sharktooth thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93667
Have'nt got the time to encode samples on my own.
So thank you Sharktooth for your work.
Ok, I always favoured Jawors matrix on low bitrate, low resolution targets.
Sharktooth is using 1379 kbps, which is not a low bitrate in the 1CD field.
But anyway: What I can see from his test encodes. Plain surfaces with little different color changes are a lot more stable on Jawors matrix
(look at the forehead of our hero in the opening sequence).
Sharktooth matrix tends to be more jerkily.
While Jawors's blurs the image a bit, Sharktooth's sharpened it a bit.
Overall for everydays encodes I would still prefer Jawor's.
Especially on low motion, human skin focused stuff.
If I find the time to make some tests on my own ->700kbps ->512:*** res will be the target.

Cheers

Taurus

Edit: Sure Xvid decoder was used for comparision, no postprocessing.

[Sharktooth]

1300kbps were used coz the trailer is a bitch to compress.
As you can see the resolution is pretty low for that bitrate.
I'll add more encodes as soon as i can.

[golftech]

Hi, I have read the tutorial for GK but I can't tell if GK is for just burning CD's or will it do DVD's as well.

Thanks

[Mouse]

Originally posted by golftech
Hi, I have read the tutorial for GK but I can't tell if GK is for just burning CD's or will it do DVD's as well.

Thanks

I suggest you to read that again ;)

(hint, it's not a burning-software or dvd-making-app)

[golftech]

Hi,
Well towards the end of the tutorial the section that is BURNING TO DISK mentions right at the beginning about burning to a CD-R and makes no mention of burning to a DVD, thus the reason I asked the question. I realize that this isn't a burning application, so why do they mention burning the image to a CD.

SO which part of the turorial do you suggest I read. I've haven't done any DVD burning before but I read the thread where someone asked about changing the AR of the original DVD so as not to have black bars either on the top and bottom or sides and found it intriquing. I run a crt pj and it would be nice to not have to deal with different ARs all the time.

Thanks

[ukb008]

Although Doom9's guides are quite comprehensive, not-too-technical and detailed, you can try these (http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/) guides or these (http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?tools=141&madeby=&formatconversionselect=&howtoselect=%3B&orderby=Date&listall=1&hits=25&archive=0&listallusers=&search=Search+or+List+Guides) ones.

There are some excellent articles by Nicky Page here (http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/), not about GordianKnot, though, but I feel you will benefit by reading them.

Burning is mentioned because that's the most obvious step to take after the transcoding operation is over and you have a new video file in your hard drive. So unless you'd rather store that new video file in the hard drive along with others you will generate in course of time....

Regards.

[Yo]

Originally posted by golftech
[B]Hi,
Well towards the end of the tutorial the section that is BURNING TO DISK mentions right at the beginning about burning to a CD-R and makes no mention of burning to a DVD,

Because---if you are going to make a DVD, that you wish to play in a standalone DVD player, AutoGK is not the program to use, not nearly! It creates DIVX or XVID AVI files, DVDs use MPEG-2 compression.

DVDs are most often the starting point for an AutoGK job (after decrypting to HD with DVD Decrypter), converted to a much smaller AVI file. If your goal is to make or copy a DVD, this isn't the program to use. You should investigate DVD authoring programs.

I guess the AVIs created by AutoGK could be burned to DVDs as data files, and they could be played from the computer just as they would from the HD. (But not from a "DVD Player".) To learn how to do that, look at the documentation that came with the burning software that came with your DVD burner. That's really nothing different than how you would do it with a CD.

To create a video DVD, however, playable on a DVD Player, is a totally different thing, and not something one would use AutoGK for.

[ukb008]

.avi files generated by AGK can be written on DVDs in data mode. They can also be converted to DVD with avi2dvd (http://dl2.rapidshare.de/files/1463032/20702613/Avi2Dvd_Setup.exe) and written on DVDs.

In both cases WinXP should offer to play the files. A DVD-player will play the one generated by avi2dvd.

Regards.

[rmagere]

Originally posted by Yo
To create a video DVD, however, playable on a DVD Player, is a totally different thing, and not something one would use AutoGK for.

Actually most DVD Players nowadays do play xvid/divx within the avi container just fine. So if you have one of those players you just burn your avis in data mode put the dvd in the player choose the movie you want to watch and off you go.

[manono]

Hi-

I have read the tutorial for GK but I can't tell if GK is for just burning CD's or will it do DVD's as well.

Wanna know why it doesn't mention anything about burning to DVD? Because at the time I wrote that section (at len0x's suggestion), I didn't have a DVD burner, and it never occurred to me that some people might prefer to put their AVIs on DVDR. An oversight on my part, since about 6 months later I finally got a DVD burner and could finally take advantage of some of the settings in AutoGK (1/4 DVDR, 1/3 DVDR, Quality 1-pass, etc.).

And as mentioned above, the principle is the same as burning to CDR; just burn as a data disc onto DVDR. Also as mentioned above, these AVIs burned as data on DVDR won't play in standard traditional DVD players. For that you'll need one of the increasingly common DVD/MPEG-4 players.

Actually most DVD Players nowadays do play xvid/divx within the avi container just fine.

Interesting you should say that, magere. Of all the people I know, none have a DVD/MPEG-4 player except me. None know how to encode for AVI. Very few even know what an AVI is. I guess it just depends on the circles you travel in. Ah, the joys of living in a small town.

[golftech]

Hi, Well thanks for everyones answers. What caught my attention was the fact that it was being used in changing the AR of the original DVD. Whether other programs will do that I don't know as I'm just starting to look into these programs and what they're used for and how they're used. I still haven't got a DVD burner so I'm just doing some preliminary reading.
I have a 8" crt projector and I would prefer to have it throwing 16:9 images instead of 2:35 : 1 images to avoid uneven wear on the tubes. But on the other hand I don't want to really cut out to much of the original image to achieve this. I haven't put up a 2:35 image to check just how much it would chop off the sides to bring it to a 16:9 size.

Thanks

[ukb008]

I always thought 16:9 is a generic term meaning widescreen rather than a specific AR, embracing many AR figures, e.g.

1.78:1 (which is, literally, 16:9)
1.85:1
2.35:1
2.50:1

etc. etc. etc.

It would seem that you'd want to cut off the sides of a 2.35:1 picture to make it 1.78:1, in the process losing picture ares from from original frame. Is that it?

Regards.

[golftech]

Yes, thats about what I was thinking.
Thanks

[manono]

So, you'd like to redirect the picture and the cinematography, losing one third of the picture in the process? You can do that in GKnot, but I, for one, would advise against doing it.

If you insist, here's a thread about it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93370

It takes a while before any worthwhile information comes out. According to one of the links in the thread, grey bars instead of black ones will prevent burn-in. It is possible to crop away the black bars and replace them with grey.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by golftech
Hi, Well thanks for everyones answers. What caught my attention was the fact that it was being used in changing the AR of the original DVD. Whether other programs will do that I don't know as I'm just starting to look into these programs and what they're used for and how they're used. I still haven't got a DVD burner so I'm just doing some preliminary reading.
I have a 8" crt projector and I would prefer to have it throwing 16:9 images instead of 2:35 : 1 images to avoid uneven wear on the tubes. But on the other hand I don't want to really cut out to much of the original image to achieve this. I haven't put up a 2:35 image to check just how much it would chop off the sides to bring it to a 16:9 size.

Thanks

If you're using a HTPC to play back (and don't get me started on why someone would use anything else for re-encoded media!!) you could leave everything at its native resolution, and just use ZoomPlayer to playback, and set your #1 to #9 keys up with the appropriate amount of zoom. That's what I do. When the image is 1.78:1, I just leave the zoom at default 0% (=#0 key), and have the 1-9 keys set to go up in approximately 5% zoom increments. So for a1.85:1, just click the 1 key to zoom in by 5%; for 2.35:1, hit the #6 key go zoom by 30% and playback at ~16:9. Works like a charm, and it's truly painless with a remote (ATI Remote Wonder) that has the number keys on it.

[golftech]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the info, but I don't use a HTPC I use a NN208 player.

[len0x]

I had a few small things fixed, so I might as well release it now before I go on holidays for two weeks. Enjoy :)

P.S. New standalone compatibility hidden options should be tested while I'm away...

[bourtzovlakas]

About the standalone compatibility hidden option for MTK....
How much and in what manner, does it affect compressitility and quality?
What are the differences with previous versions?

[len0x]

There should not be any real difference. For MTK/Sigma new profiles from celtic_druid are used to enable VBV but allow custom matrixes (DXN profiles doesn't allow custom matrixes). For ESS - normal DXN profiles are used (and therefore no custom matrixes).

P.S. Its my official last post for the next two weeks.

[clone83]

can some one please provide a mirror link for autogk can i can never download it when it is on their sites server.... cause i keep[ getting asked for a login name and pass... unless someone wants to pm me with one...?

[ukb008]

You can download AGK (one version less than the most current) and the previous versions from this (http://dvd.box.sk/ddivx.soft.link.php?rid=8156) page. This (http://files.divx-digest.com/software/encode/AutoGordianKnot.2.07.beta.Update.exe) page gives you AGK v 2.07, and this (http://files.divx-digest.com/software/encode/AutoGordianKnot.1.95.Setup.exe) the latest stable release (v 1.95), as does this (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/autoGK.cfm) page.

v 2.08 cab be downloaded from this (http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/AutoGK-Auto-Gordian-Knot--beta-Download-7621.html) page

I hope this helps.

Regards.

[Hobojobo]

@lenox:

Have nice holidays.
Relax and have fun.
:)

[nechto]

Something strange - in file mode sometimes AGK can't see all audio streams.

p.s. is it planned MPEG1(VCD) support ???

[dinolib2]

May be that new XviD bundled with AutoGK 2.08 have a profile bug:
everytime, it produces "packed bitstream" files... with AL@5 profile too!
I'm going to fix it with MPEG4modifier, but it's a little annoying :(

A question: I have a MTK player, but it doesn't like packet bitstreams (video is skippy, sometimes). Is it normal?

Thank you
Dino

ps: len0x enjoy your holidays!

[nechto]

There is a big problem with autodetection of audio streams if they have different delays.

example:
http://nechto1.narod.ru/Video/VTS_02_1_split.VOB

it has 2 audio streams : second start only on 12-13th second.
AGK see only one stream.

P.S. len0x, can you make something like auto name in file mode - my DVD copies always lays on directories with next structure :
<DVD Name>\VIDEO_TS\*.vob -> <DVD Name>.avi
(not mine case, but VIDEO_TS may be absent).

[s4czech]

Originally posted by Taurus
C'mon, just one page before this one you can read what's causing this behaviour.
Look for my post there or read AutoGk's FAQ. First entry is about this subject.
Or use the da.. Search button.

Cheers

Taurus




I randomly get the Forbidden error messages too. I dont understand the recomended fix. What do you mean by:

“Main AutoGK download mirrors are protected from direct linking via "referrers" feature, so if you're getting an error saying something like "You don't have permission to access XXX..." make sure you enable referrers propagation in you browser/firewall/download manager.
============================”

I'm not using a firewall and I havnt customized Firefox at all. It's worked fine in the past. I got the forbidden message a few months ago but it went away the next day. I've been unable ot download this new version the past few days now.

UPDATE: I remote desktop'd into an offsite XP computer that uses a public IP address (no router) I then transfered the file to my home computer. My home computer uses a linksys router. I'm using an advanced linksys firmware from: http://www.dd-wrt.com Where is the section that enables referrers propagation?

[len0x]

Originally posted by nechto
p.s. is it planned MPEG1(VCD) support ???

when DGIndex has mpeg1 support then very probably...

[len0x]

Originally posted by nechto
it has 2 audio streams : second start only on 12-13th second.
AGK see only one stream.


Because AutoGK parses only beginning of a vob file. If you ready to wait 15-30 sec every time you opening a file then I can increase number of packets parsed.

Originally posted by nechto
P.S. len0x, can you make something like auto name in file mode - my DVD copies always lays on directories with next structure :
<DVD Name>\VIDEO_TS\*.vob -> <DVD Name>.avi
(not mine case, but VIDEO_TS may be absent).

tough, everyone has its own preference - we'll never agree on common case...

[BigDid]

@ Len0x

Welcome back, hope vacations was fine :)

Seems collisions exists between Celtic_Druid xvid GUI for MTK and AGK, MTK winning and imposing packed bitstreams inside AGK whatever profile.

Just downloaded new GUI, problem fixed no PB anymore with unrestricted;
link: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/test/xvidvfwtest.7z
Thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94589

Workaround given was to step back to 2.07 (but complete uninstall/reinstall)

Did

[len0x]

Originally posted by BigDid
Welcome back, hope vacations was fine :)


it was indeed :)

Originally posted by BigDid
Just downloaded new GUI, problem fixed no PB anymore with unrestricted;


What about DXN and MTK profiles? Ideally it should never be on unless explicitely switched on.

[BigDid]

Originally posted by len0x
What about DXN and MTK profiles? Ideally it should never be on unless explicitely switched on. [/B]
Cannot test atm, but Celtic stated that "I think I will do a new build where pb just does whatever you set it to, since mine and several other MTK based players handle pb fine. "
I believe AGK can +now+ set or not set PB within Celtic's GUI, if not please consider not throwing the baby with the bath water (french saying).
I mean I'm sure a solution can be found with Celtic to offer the MTK profile to AGK users. So if you withdraw the .MTK option please make that backstep not permanent.

People wanting to test have to:
1/ update to AGK 2.08
2/ Use the new MTK GUI (download link above) by replacing the xvidvfw.dll located in Windows->system32 folder
3/ check the .ess and .mtk hidden options to see if it is still encoded with packed bitstream
4/Report back maybe in this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94221 to free the main thread

Did

[nechto]

Originally posted by len0x
Because AutoGK parses only beginning of a vob file. If you ready to wait 15-30 sec every time you opening a file then I can increase number of packets parsed.

I am ready. May be something like 2-3 variants in options ??


tough, everyone has its own preference - we'll never agree on common case...
Yes, I know ... may be options like 'Standart name<>Auto name' ???

Anyway thanx. Great tool.

[Sharktooth]

The updated build is here: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/test/xvidvfwtest.7z (dated 2005-05-18)

[Exoskeletor]

it coud be great if we can select in the hiden options the way that autogk save the filename

[laserfan]

I have routinely used AGK to make Xvid avi files from DVD, whereby I select the AC3 track and then "Auto" and the AC3 track again, which results in an AC3 track and a 2nd track that is the same thing but MP3.

In 2.08 this does not work, at least not reliably (I think it may have worked a couple of times). AGK only wants to encode 1 audio track, and I usually "catch" that fact in the log window, and Abort the encode.

I have gone back to 1.95 for the time being, but am interested in getting 2.08 & beyond working because I have a media player (ShowCenter) and want the Sigma bitrate limiting to work.

Am I missing something? I haven't seen anyone else here comment about this.

EDIT: FIXED in 2.09b. Problem only appeared w/sources that had only 1 audio track!

[QUEENFAN]

Hello AGK-enthusiasts,

very handy tool that AGK combined with DIVX, congratulations.
I'm converting every series I have on DVD into the DIVX-format.
It would be great if AGK had another method in preselecting the output size.
My favorite would be a selectable size for 60 minutes of video, let's say 500MB. And depending on the length of the source file, AGK is going to convert the size of the destination. So if the source file has a length of 30 Minutes and the quality-setting is set to 500MB/60 minutes the size will be set to 250MB.

Any chance of this whish to become true ???

[len0x]

gosh, I went down with a flu for a week, so no updated XviD release for the pack so far.

@QUEENFAN
There is no way for AutoGK to know length of the video (in DVD mode) before encoding starts, so no smart size selection is possible.

[QUEENFAN]

@len0x

Thanks for your answer. Hope you're healthy again.

Maybe there's a chance to get DVDDecrypter which I use to rip the IFO's and which displays the length of the IFO to save this info to be later used by AGK in the 'Stream information.txt' ???

If not I must calculate the size for every single DVD-track manually :-((

Any hope ?

[ukb008]

AGK uses the StreamInfo.txt file generated by DVDDecrypter. I remember once len0x had asked LIGHTNING UK! whether the timelength could be included in that file, to which the answer was no. If AGK can now be made to parse the .ifo file too...but then the need for len0x to do that must be resoundingly great...

Regards.

[len0x]

even if there was IFO parsing - there is no way to tell which VTS was actually ripped...

[Hobojobo]

Is there a way how I can see the exact CLI for audio processing AutoGK uses?
The log files do not tell. :confused:

[BigDid]

Is there a way how I can see the exact CLI for audio processing AutoGK uses?
The log files do not tell. :confused:
Hi,

Up to 2.08 (have not dl 2.09 yet) while having the dos process "encoding audio", restoring that window will let you see many infos; it's gone when finished though !

Did

[unskinnyboy]

Hi,

Up to 2.08 (have not dl 2.09 yet) while having the dos process "encoding audio", restoring that window will let you see many infos; it's gone when finished though !

Did

And to add..

The DOS window(s) hangs in there long enough for you to copy/paste the command lines from there to elsewhere. Once you get it, it is the same format everytime for the same audio_format--> audio_format, only the names change.

[BigDid]

@ Len0x,

Thanks for keeping the mtk profile in 2.09
:)
Did

[dimitrik]

Is there any way to get hold of the custom build of XviD with the mediatek profiles, separate from the AutoGK package?

I have a slightly messed up system and am trying to keep to minimum configuration right now.

[BigDid]

Hi dimitrik,

Answer is in this same thread a few days back here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=657947#post657947
link to dll here: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/test/xvidvfwtest.7z

Did

[dimitrik]

Thank you very much BigDid. :)

I thought I had looked thorouly but obviously I had missed it.

I hope I can just copy this to my system32 directory - I wonder if I should first install Druid's latest build, since I have Koepi's build installed.

[BigDid]

Hi,

No time to elaborate atm, please search the howto it may be splitted on more than 1 post but it should be there. Come back if needed.

Did

[mdew]

what would be handy, the ability to specify the amount of passes, and to specify the bitrate and encoding of the 2nd stream.

[BigDid]

what would be handy, the ability to specify the amount of passes, and to specify the bitrate and encoding of the 2nd stream.
Hi mdew and welcome to the forum,

May I inquire to know what post or topic you are referring to? :confused:

Did

[mdew]

unless I'm mistaken, this is the Auto Gordian Knot thread?

[Sharktooth]

Well it's AUTO gordian knot. You dont have to specify those parameters coz it AUTOMATICALLY calculates them.
And however you can already select the number of passes (1 or 2) by selecting Target Quality (1 pass) or Custom/Predefined size (2 passes).
Maybe searching the forum and reading the guides/faqs would be a nice idea before posting... dont you think?
Next time :readrule: :readfaq: :readguid: :search:

[mdew]

I'm refering to maybe an advanced/hidden option, where a user can specify x pass, really handy if you want to get every bit of quality out, 3,4,5 passes..

And my other suggestion, is 2nd audio track can't be configured seperately, for example, have AC3 as main audio, and 2nd audio track as mp3. Or have main audio at a higher bitrate mp3, and 2nd audio track at a lower bitrate.

[gircobain]

I'm refering to maybe an advanced/hidden option, where a user can specify x pass, really handy if you want to get every bit of quality out, 3,4,5 passes..
If a codec needs more than one pass to decide where to throw more or less bits then it is flawed from design.

[rmagere]

I'm refering to maybe an advanced/hidden option, where a user can specify x pass, really handy if you want to get every bit of quality out, 3,4,5 passes..
And my other suggestion, is 2nd audio track can't be configured seperately, for example, have AC3 as main audio, and 2nd audio track as mp3. Or have main audio at a higher bitrate mp3, and 2nd audio track at a lower bitrate.

Just wondering have you tried Gordian Knot? or even plain virtual dub?

[unskinnyboy]

I'm refering to maybe an advanced/hidden option, where a user can specify x pass, really handy if you want to get every bit of quality out, 3,4,5 passes..

And my other suggestion, is 2nd audio track can't be configured seperately, for example, have AC3 as main audio, and 2nd audio track as mp3. Or have main audio at a higher bitrate mp3, and 2nd audio track at a lower bitrate.
Man, if you want to tweak your encode down to the last byte, then AutoGK is NOT the tool for you. Please keep in mind that this tool is targeted towards newbies and mid-range users. For the last time, this tool is NOT running against GordianKnot in a race for maximum tweakability.

[celtic_druid]

Pretty sure that the only changes to VfW since beta2 are:
bugfix: correct max bitrate display for slider
layout: "(kbps)" added to avgerage bitrate labels within calculator dialog

So it should work fine with Koepi's beta2.

[BigDid]

@ dimitrik
Hope the info given by celtic_druid in the above post (#3775)
is what you are looking for

@mdew
Seeing the answers given, hope you understand better my questioning, I was not ironic, just wanted to put emphase on the polite side.

@all
It' been quite a few days now I am wondering about the newcomers questions (1), I've searched quite a lot on the forum and it seems there is no umm... "general politic" on the subject.
The subject being not about first time posting, this is widely covered (2), but about answering and the how-to.
I have not enough time to start a topic on it (3), also this is not the place for (4). Anyhow if someone wants to try I will follow and contribute.

@Len0x
This being written, other sections or sub-sections have more ... safety-lines like linking to the AGK FAQ (present in AGK but not in AGK dev) and/or more generic advices:
Accept a gift: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=52597
Rule 9: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=43066
Something like: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=57466
and much more I overlooked I'm sure :)

I wish all a good day or evening or night

Did

(1) usually first time posting
(2) is it really?
(3) and maybe I have not searched enough
(4) like the general discussion forum

[ukb008]

With 189 pages and still going strong, this thread (perhaps it's not a thread any more...holding so many posts needs a little more strength - maybe we should call this one a rope) certainly acquired a few of the characters of a chat board. Topics are posted or questions are asked frequently that are bound to have been raised and answered somewhere in this rope. Nobody has the time or inclination to look at these 189 pages of posts to find out what he is looking for. Search is an option, but then sometimes the queries that trouble the mind are vague...and search might not be too helpful. So (especially newcomers) post, hoping someone will have a clue as to where an answer might be hiding, and post back to help, like BigDid helped dimitrik in post no. 3764 above. Newcomers should, of course, read more, search more, but I have seen a newcomer posting in with a specific problem, and then after a couple more posts (when the urgency of the query has gone away) he is never seen in these fora again.
Whether a newcomer is going to stay on to contribute can be assessed by quickly answering his query and wait to see whether he posts again...

Regards.

[ukb008]

Thanks. Welcome.

Regards.

[bugmenotwillyou]

It's a spyware program why is doom9 pushing this

[manono]

This issue has already been discussed ad nauseam. If you had bothered looking around, you would have discovered that it's an easy matter to delete the Dae.dll. If you don't like it, don't use it.

[len0x]

For those who monitor this thread: there is a updated stable version 1.96 with only difference to 1.95 being DGIndex 1.3.0 and updated multilingual guides (DVDDecrypter part is removed). So basiacally just repackaging...

[unskinnyboy]

For those who monitor this thread: there is a updated stable version 1.96 with only difference to 1.95 being DGIndex 1.3.0 and updated multilingual guides (DVDDecrypter part is removed). So basiacally just repackaging...
DVDDecrypter part is removed means?

[len0x]

There is no explanation how get VOBs to the hdd in the tutorial anymore.

[Mechcommander]

Hello, all. I've recently decided to set up my own PVR PC lately, and am looking around at the different software to use that will do a good job on re-encoding my recorded shows. AutoGK seems to be an excellent program, and I hear that it also supports 'folder watching' or scheduled encoding times to look for new files and encode. I'm guessing this feature has something to do with 'File Mode,' but for the life of me, I can't find a good explanation on how to get AutoGK automatically checking a remote folder and encoding new files on the spot. I'd be very appritiative if someone could show me a link that explains this, or point me in the direction of a program that will also work. Thanks for your help!

[Alwayscamp]

just wondering if it will be supported or not?
curiosity. thats all.
thansk again for the program.

[dvd_maniac]

@Mechcommander
I hear that it also supports 'folder watching' or scheduled encoding times to look for new files and encode.

HERE (http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11652&highlight=automated+autogk) is something I found on automated encoding with AutoGK.
I think it is a tweak of AutoGK and not part of the program itself.

[evil ryu]

I have audio - video synchronization problem with some films. I use anydvd 5.2.7.1 + dvd decrypter 3.5.4.0 to extract files in ifo mode and then I use AutoGK 2.09b to convert them in xvid format. If I use AutoGK in file mode giving it the vobs manually doesn't help me.
Until now I had this issue with "Ladder 49" and "Resident Evil Apocalypse".
Is there anyone that experienced the same problem?
Is there a workaround or is it an AutoGK bug?
Perhaps it can be a DGIndex bug....

Thanks in advance for your support.

[bourtzovlakas]

Don't use together AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter....
Things get mixed up....
Your problem is probaply due to a bad rip...

[evil ryu]

I have the same problem if I use DVDFAB decrypter and than AutoGK in file mode. :(

[bourtzovlakas]

Use DVD Decrypter alone....
No other application running in the background...

[evil ryu]

Use DVD Decrypter alone....
No other application running in the background...

For the latest dvd protections, dvd decrypter is not sufficient.

[bourtzovlakas]

"Ladder 49" and "Resident Evil Apocalypse" should be decrypted fine with v.3.5.4.0...
I know that because i have ripped them myself....
Why don't you try it yourself and stop being so negative?

[evil ryu]

"Ladder 49" and "Resident Evil Apocalypse" should be decrypted fine with v.3.5.4.0...
I know that because i have ripped them myself....
Why don't you try it yourself and stop being so negative?

I'm not negative but realistic, Resident Evil Apocalypse can be decripted with v.3.5.4.0 but Ladder 49 not. At least the version distribuited in my country.

[bourtzovlakas]

Where are you from?

You can always use the combination AnyDVD/DVD Shrink, to rip the DVD to an .ISO image, mount that to a virtual drive, and re-rip with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode....

[evil ryu]

I tried also this but there is the same problem. I am from Italy.

[bourtzovlakas]

Is this a new release?
If yes, maybe it is not yet supported by AnyDVD...
Copy-paste the IFO file of the main movie to your hard drive, through Windows Explorer, and upload it somewhere, so i could have a look at it...
When you open the DVD, in DVD Decrypter in IFO mode, how many cells are automatically de-selected??

[need4speed]

I tried also this but there is the same problem. I am from Italy.

I'm from italy too, and can confirm Ladder49 R2 can be decrypetd with anydvd last version only. No go with dvddecrypter.
Cheers

[bourtzovlakas]

@need4speed

Can you post the original .IFO??

[manono]

No, you don't post the IFOs of copyrighted DVDs:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?&threadid=50767

[bourtzovlakas]

Then, maybe, something like that.... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96845

[manono]

Hehe. Good one. Well, I have no control over that forum. So go post there. Or by PM. But not here. Please.

The problems with the R2 Ladder 49 and others with that encryption are already well known. DVDFab Express does it easily. It doesn't have an IFO Mode, though, but only a File Mode. If worse comes to worst, the AutoGK user might have to make an ISO of the files, mount it with Daemon Tools, and then use DVD Decrypter on it in IFO Mode. So maybe AnyDVD is a better solution, but the trial is good for only 21 days before you have to buy it.

[bourtzovlakas]

Yes, but if you have a way to know which cells to un-check manually, in DVD Decrypter 's IFO mode, then you can rip it without any other tool...
...and that is not difficult with a close inspection of the .IFO file...

But, your point is perfectly clear and i won 't continue this discussion...

[manono]

Hi bourtzovlakas-

I appreciate your response, even if you thought I was being unreasonable. As it turns out, you weren't the only one that thought I was being unreasonable. I received a PM from Doom9 who made a distinction between posting a complete IFO so someone that needs it for a backup can use it, and your reason for wanting to look at one. So, I stand corrected. If you want to resume the discussion, or if need4speed or evil ryu still want to post one for Ladder 49 or other similarly encrypted DVDs, you'll get no further objections from me. I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part.

[len0x]

Few points:

- mpeg1 sources might contain wrong AR in the stream, so you might wanna override that using hidden options (to force 4:3)
- divx6: its now slightly slower that XviD due to usage of h263 optimized quantization. Also compressibility changed dramatically, so I had to compensate for that to produce approximately the same resolutions as divx5
- DVD mode now requires just *one* IFO file and just *one* vobset to be present in the input directory. Stream info file is still being read though, so if you have working workflow of things it is suggested do not change that. AutoGK may ask you for PGC and Angle number if they are not a part of file name of the input vobset (which they should be).

[namchik]

Hi, len0x
- DVD mode now requires just *one* IFO file and just *one* vobset to be present in the input directory. Stream info file is still being read though, so if you have working workflow of things it is suggested do not change that. AutoGK may ask you for PGC and Angle number if they are not a part of file name of the input vobset (which they should be).
Does that mean that direct (w/o using DVD-Decrypter) DVD-backup of a multiple-vob movie is still not possible? :(
BTW any link on download page: http://www.autogk.me.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4
gives me error 403 - forbidden...

[len0x]

That means that AutoGK will only be able to process one stripped out PGC/angle due to DGIndex requirements (how you get the that out of DVD dir its not my problem: either use ripping tools (for multi PGCs DVDs) or just copy out one vobs set if it doesn't have any extras).

[ricardo.santos]

cant download the latest beta .

the 3 mirrors say the filesize is 0 bytes and whenever i try to download it it says error: forbidden

[ricardo.santos]

got it now, seems that my downloader was the problem

[Dion]

Was Control Spike Bitrate Removed from this verison also?

[dap_werewolf]

drumrolls....version 1.12 beta is out :)

I assume this is a typo and someone should correct that to 2.12, or at least correct it on the Doom9 home page because they're probably quoting it from here.

[len0x]

damn :(

[len0x]

Was Control Spike Bitrate Removed from this verison also?

Its now in standalone support in hidden options.

[CrisCr0ss]

thanks but rc 7 for dgindex came out is it okay if we update the program alone it won't affect autogk rite?

[len0x]

There is nothing new in RC7 of DGIndex that would affect AutoGK's usage of it (but yes it should work).

[Momir2004]

dvd decrypter support
or idea for other alternative dvd ripper?

[need4speed]

@need4speed

Can you post the original .IFO??

Apologies for the late reply.
Guess I cant, but looks like anydvd new versions are coming along faster and faster, already updated twice since my last post.
Seems like R2 dvds protection is updated very quickly lately.

[starwave]

I tried to use 2.12b version on TV recorded DVD's using Woxter VDR-1000 and IFO parsing shows all original PGC's but all of them fails at select showing bad integer $.
Previous version 2.09b works fine with the same DVD.
I used DVD Decrypter to rip only one PGC of DVD and this PGC was used on both versions 2.09b and 2.12b. It only fails on 2.12b, that shows all original PGC's (ripped and not ripped) reporting BAD INTEGER $.

[nechto]

I tried to use 2.12b version on TV recorded DVD's using Woxter VDR-1000 and IFO parsing shows all original PGC's but all of them fails at select showing bad integer $.
Previous version 2.09b works fine with the same DVD.
I used DVD Decrypter to rip only one PGC of DVD and this PGC was used on both versions 2.09b and 2.12b. It only fails on 2.12b, that shows all original PGC's (ripped and not ripped) reporting BAD INTEGER $.

May be it's cuase DVDRipper can't do working IFO ( it's fact ) ??? If you try to run any ifo made by DVDRipper - most of them players can't render ... I think it's not AGK fault ...

[len0x]

@starwave

Can you provide the IFO file in question?

[MediaMage]

forgive me if this BUG of 2.12b has already been posted:

when mounting a directory on a remote computer over network to lets say "x:", given this dir as Input directory, selecting the correct PGC, clicking on OUTPUT FILE --> SandClock Cursor appears for about 1/10 second, TitleBar flashes (focus on / focus off) for the same time. Output File Editbox still empty.
No Adding of Job therefore possible.

DOESN´T HAPPEN when the Files are NOT located in the Root-Dir (Like "X:\MyVobs"). Everything works fine here.

haven´t tested, if this happens with older versions of AutoGK.

EDIT: Same thing happens when using local Computers Root-Dir of a drive. (e.g. "C:\"). Feature or Bug?

[Exoskeletor]

lenox what about an option to not add any sound or not add any video on our avi file?

[len0x]

EDIT: Same thing happens when using local Computers Root-Dir of a drive. (e.g. "C:\"). Feature or Bug?

It is a bug.

[len0x]

lenox what about an option to not add any sound or not add any video on our avi file?

No audio option is already there. Why would anyone wants no video in the program that encodes it?..

[len0x]

Hi len0x. I've attached 2 IFO's from TV recordings made by standalone Woxter VDR-1000 DVD recorder http://www.woxter.com/english/index_english.htm .
All Woxter recordings IFO's fails with 2.12b. All of them are ripped by DVD Decrypter to extract desired PGC (not to decrypt), because all Woxter recordings shares the same VOB's set on the disc. All previous versions of AutoGK worked fine, only 2.12b fails.

I can see why its failing (vstrip gives different structure for it, but its fixable), but I'm curios about MPA audio that I would say AutoGK would not extract from VOB sources atm...

[Exoskeletor]

lenox where is the opnion for no audio?

[MediaMage]

lenox where is the opnion for no audio?

just select "no audio track" and "no second audio track" in both comboboxes in "STEP 2" (Audio Tracks)

[Pyniok]

Hi,

Just tried encoding MPG1 file to XVID (btw, thanks for that, lenOx) and it seems to be working fine (tried with enforced 4:3 only). I found out that both passes in VDMod are much quicker than encoding a movie ripped from DVD. I managed 25FPS top for DVD source and up to 65FPS for MPG1 file. Why is that? Not that it is a problem but it would be good to know.

Pyniok.

[len0x]

Max resolution of mpeg1 streams is much lower than mpeg2, so with less pixels to encode its much faster process.

[GravuTrad]

Hi

All servers for autoGK are down(error 403)??? (for download only...)

[len0x]

Few small changes. And I won't be reading forum for a while as I'm off on holidays.

[GravuTrad]

Yes, ok, super.

Good holidays to you so... ;)

And really thanks to you...

[MediaMage]

BIG thanks for the fast fix for the "Root-Dir-Bug". Hope you enjoy your time away.

[jp80]

After I encoded a PAL interlaced DVD with latest AutoGK 2.13beta, I found a part of the picture on the right was cropped as shown on screenshot, the same problem occured after I tried to force 4:3 AR in hidden options as I thought this could have been a solution. Then how do you know could I solve this?

[Exoskeletor]

len0x it would b better if when we dont select an audio track, in the adcanced settings the audio track panel to be locked and in the status bar to say "no audio track selected" or something like that?

[johndoes]

Hi,

Is there a way not to compress the external subtitles and still take their size into consideration in output size? I'm asking this, because I've just bought a stand-alone DVD player (Magnavox MDV434) which plays DivX files, with external subtitles, as long as they're not compressed.

TIA

John

[Exoskeletor]

No audio option is already there. Why would anyone wants no video in the program that encodes it?..

someone who wants a 1-click program to encode only audio.
len0x are we going to see in the future wmv support for the file input?

[AGK_J]

didn't know where to post...but neither the U.S. or Sweden links are working for me...claims i'm not authorized to access the page?

[unskinnyboy]

didn't know where to post...but neither the U.S. or Sweden links are working for me...claims i'm not authorized to access the page?
Bookmark this (http://www.free-codecs.com/AutoGK_download.htm) page too. This always carries the latest beta alongside AutoGK's homepage.

[namchik]

didn't know where to post...but neither the U.S. or Sweden links are working for me...claims i'm not authorized to access the page?
Your firewall is probably blocking cookies. I had the same problem with ZoneAlarm.

[starwave]

When AutoGK is used in batch mode using different hidden options for each file, I have seen all files in the same directory shares only the last hidden settings.
In fact .mono or .sharp are created in the work directory at the moment you select them.
Of course actually you can work with different directories for every file with different hidden settings, but too much temporary files (agk_tmp folders) has to be stored on hard disk.
I think hidden options should be created at the beginning of every batch process but not like now.
In this manner different files in the same directoy can have different hidden settings and temporary information to store is low (only one agk_tmp folder).
It's only a suggestion.

[len0x]

Hidden options started merely as a hack, so having multiple in one dir was never a plan, especially since they are not linked to a job at all and are read only during job execution.

[len0x]

len0x are we going to see in the future wmv support for the file input?

I don't think there are tools that demux audio from wmv files...

[rc55]

Hi,

I've tried searching for a while but I can't seem to find anyone with the same problem and/or resolution:


[31/07/2005 16:55:46] AutoGK 2.13b
[31/07/2005 16:55:46] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[31/07/2005 16:55:46] Job started.
[31/07/2005 16:55:46] Indexing input for preview.
[31/07/2005 16:55:48] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Shared\Ayumi Hamasaki - evolution.mpg
[31/07/2005 16:55:48] Source resolution: 352x240
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Unknown source FPS.
*************************************
[31/07/2005 16:55:48] Job finished. Total time: 2 seconds
====================================================
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] AutoGK 2.13b
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Job started.
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Input file: Ayumi Hamasaki - evolution.mpg
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Output file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Shared\Ayumi Hamasaki - evolution.avi
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Output codec: XviD
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Audio1: Audio Stream 0 MPEG
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Subtitles: none
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Format: .AVI
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Target size: 32Mb
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Started encoding.
[31/07/2005 16:56:06] Demuxing and indexing.
[31/07/2005 16:56:08] Processing file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Shared\Ayumi Hamasaki - evolution.mpg
[31/07/2005 16:56:08] Source resolution: 352x240
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Unknown source FPS.


Any ideas?

Ruairi

[len0x]

what is source FPS ?

[rc55]

Video: MPEG1 Video 352x240 (107:80) 30.00fps

[len0x]

30fps is not supported atm, only 29.97...

[rc55]

OK - Thank you for your quick reply. Are you considering having 30fps / custom fps support?

Ruairi

[len0x]

custom fps - no, but I just didn't see 30fps source before

[neohades]

Hi-

...it doesn't create a Stream Information file at all.

Open DVDDecrypter. In Tools->Settings->IFO Mode->Create Additional Files, do you have Stream Information checked? You should.

hi!

i have other problem with stream information, i have downloaded a ripped DVD from the net, and i don't know how to make stream information file, is there a special programe for that one?

i tried to rip the normal DVD, and eaven though the option Tools->Settings->IFO Mode->Create Additional Files stream information is checked, the stream information file is not created. what's going on?

please answer :)

neohades

[manono]

i have downloaded a ripped DVD from the net

Although it's possible, I suppose, for you to have downloaded a non-copyrighted DVD from somewhere, it's not very likely. Our forum rules forbid discussion or help for such things. Please read the Forum Rules (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm) again, particularly Rule 6. Please also read this Announcement (http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?f=6).

[evil ryu]

With tha last beta (2.13b) I experience wrong source aspect ratio detection. Can you do somenthing?

[len0x]

That is not enough information. There is absolutely nothing changed regarding AR in 2.13...

[evil ryu]

That is not enough information. There is absolutely nothing changed regarding AR in 2.13...

Some films are detected as 4:3 instead of 16:9. It's the second time that it happens from the upgrade to 2.13b: I have to force AR to 16:9 in hidden options to get the right result.

[len0x]

That happens from time to time when vobs are mastered incorrectly - there is nothing we can do about it. Using old version of AutoGK would yield in the same result.

[len0x]

As there is not much development going on anyway these days I'd like to release a stable version of I have and be done with it for a while. So 2.15 can be considered to have an RC status although it does have a few small changes (main one: DVD mode is removed and IFO file being used to open such sources).

[Exoskeletor]

len0x why dont you change your installer to check every time a user install autogk if there are installed the vobsub, avisynth and xvid and if there are not to install them automaticly again?

It would be good to see an advanced settings window someday in which we can select the default 1st audio , default second audio, default codec, default output directory etc..

[sti5500]

hey len0x,
I was wondering if you can give an option to use VHQ=4 in XviD codec?
I know it will be very slow to rip, but it will produce such a great quality. Not sure if this has already been suggested.

Thanks looking forward to your reply,

Laters,
sti5500

[len0x]

I'm not considering any new features/enhancements at the moment at all.

[bourtzovlakas]

A bugfix version of VDM is coming soon, as mentioned in this thread... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98517
Will it be implemented in the AutoGK package??

[len0x]

Thanks for mentioning the above thread, but it would need at least 2-3 months of testing to replace VDubMod in AutoGK since its using 1.5.4.1 and not 1.5.10.1(which ppl randomly find buggy). GK package may be updated for testing purposes before...

[len0x]

Wanted to test new builds of XviD and DGMPGDec before stable release, so please do a stress test. Bugs that are not found before that have a good chance of not being fixed this time :)

[Sumster]

I just had a question regarding Output resolution and hidden options.

I have a 720x480 MPG-2 input that is recognized as 4:3. I have even set the input resolution forced at 4:3 in the hidden option. I wish to have the output resolution at 320x240 (4:3 for viewing on my PocketPC). Unfortunately, for some reason AutoGK sizes the ouput to 320x208 and the output looked skewed.

Is there any way to force a particular output resolution in the hidden options?

Thanks.

[laserfan]

For some reason in 2-pass mode BOTH of the 2 audio tracks I like to lay-down are coming-out as MP3, despite that normally I get AC3 as Track 1 and MP3 as Track 2 (using Auto output audio type). Here's a sample log, you can see that both audio tracks are the same size:
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] AutoGK 2.16b
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Job started.
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Input file: E:\Problem scenes\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Output file: D:\Segment1.avi
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Output codec: XviD
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Audio 2: English AC3 6ch
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Subtitles: none
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Format: .AVI
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Target size: 65Mb
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Standalone support enabled: MTK/Sigma
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Started encoding.
[8/25/2005 11:04:56 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Processing file: E:\Problem scenes\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Found NTSC source.
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Output will contain 5636 frames
[8/25/2005 11:05:02 PM] Decoding audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:07 PM] Normalizing audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:09 PM] Encoding audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:28 PM] Decoding audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:34 PM] Normalizing audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:35 PM] Encoding audio.
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Audio1 size: 3,578,520 bytes (3.41 Mb)
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Audio2 size: 3,578,520 bytes (3.41 Mb)
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Overhead: 450,816 bytes (0.43 Mb)
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Video size: 60,549,584 bytes (57.74 Mb)
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Running compressibility test.
[8/25/2005 11:05:55 PM] Writing the following script to D:\agk_tmp\Segment1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\agk_tmp\Segment1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(42,15)
===========================================================
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Duration was: 1 minute, 34 seconds
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Speed was: 21.56 fps.
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 43.86
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Using softer resizer.
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Chosen resolution is: 576x320 ( AR: 1.80 )
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 55.61
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Running first pass.
[8/25/2005 11:07:29 PM] Writing the following script to D:\agk_tmp\Segment1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\agk_tmp\Segment1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 576
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[8/25/2005 11:09:18 PM] Duration was: 1 minute, 49 seconds
[8/25/2005 11:09:18 PM] Speed was: 51.66 fps.
[8/25/2005 11:09:18 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 55.04
[8/25/2005 11:09:18 PM] Running second pass.
[8/25/2005 11:12:38 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 19 seconds
[8/25/2005 11:12:38 PM] Speed was: 28.19 fps.
[8/25/2005 11:12:38 PM] Job finished. Total time: 7 minutes 42 seconds
When I tried this again in 1-pass mode 75%, it resulted in the expected AC3 and MP3 tracks i.e. it worked fine. But I need to get 2-pass working again.

I wanted to revert to a pre-2.15b version but I just cleaned-out all my recent versions. Any ideas???

[len0x]

It was always like that in 2 pass mode: either both tracks are the same or in auto mode first one is AC3 only if target size is more than 700Mb...

[len0x]

Is there any way to force a particular output resolution in the hidden options?

No, if you want to crop wide screen movie to 4:3 or letterbox it - AutoGK is not a tool to go for.

[laserfan]

It was always like that in 2 pass mode: either both tracks are the same or in auto mode first one is AC3 only if target size is more than 700Mb...
Thank you; well, this explains it. I was attempting to encode a small portion (100Mb or so) of a movie to check encoding results.

I suppose there is a reason why "no AC3 if <700Mb" but ... well it might be nice to make 2-audio-track Xvids of movie trailers which are usually <100Mb. I will stick to single-pass for these I guess.

[len0x]

You just can't have AC3/MP3 combo for <=700Mb, but you can have AC3/AC3 if you selected that option in advanced settings.

[evil ryu]

What's the difference beetween the Koepi xvid (04/04/2005) and the version that you included in AutoGK 2.16b? Is AutoGK fuly compatible with the Koepi version?

[len0x]

Its celtic_druid's CVS builds (change log here: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4) plus MTK profiles done by him as well. Its fully compatible with official beta 2.

[3ncrypted]

Is it normal to get different compressibility results when switching between Xvid and Divx?(autogk 2.16b) For example I got compressibility of 107.70 with xvid and 77.04 with Divx 6.(all other settings identical)

[len0x]

yes, divx6 has compressibility of 20-25% lower than divx5 because of changed quantanization

[qknet]

Q1: The last time my output avi from AGK 2.16beta was confused by fuse.exe (to make divx media file with switchable subtitle) although I already check "stand-alone" support in Hidden option (MTK i think - what is the difference with ESS, btw?). The fuse's test FAILed but it proceeded anyway. Tecnical information shown in divx player shows that the resultant divx file is NOT certified.

Q2: If I already satisfied with the 1-pass output, how can I set it just to do 1-pass?

[Lester Burnham]

Q2: If I already satisfied with the 1-pass output, how can I set it just to do 1-pass?


Use a quality setting for output.

Or read the guide :readguid: :D

[len0x]

@qknet
First, fuse is beta product, second what codec and standalone settings are you using?

[len0x]

Give it a good stress test as this is gonna be a stable one soon.

[bourtzovlakas]

If you don't report problems with this latest version in the forum there is a chance that they won't be fixed at all and go to may-be-last-stable release of AutoGK.

Does this mean that the development of AutoGK will stop, after the next stable version?

[len0x]

yes...

[bourtzovlakas]

That 's too bad...
:( :( :( :( :( :(


A huge thanks anyway for all the time and effort you put in this wonderful program....

:thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

[len0x]

Lets not dramatise for the time being. I'd rather suprise ppl with some unexpected releases than let everybody think I'm still actively developing it. I feel like its taken for granted that AutoGK will go on forever, so its time to stop that feeling :)

[Hobojobo]

And the Oscar goes to:

len0x !!!

Thank you for all the work and support.


Never say never... :)

[Exoskeletor]

len0x what about implemented a method to save our options? (for example to set the default language we wont, default export size, default format, default settings etc)??

[len0x]

was I not clear that I'm not implementing anything new and just doing bug fixes? :)

[Exoskeletor]

ok i get it. :)

[apollo16]

Some months ago when I answer, in the forum, if there was possibility to improve program with possibility to choose in context menu (Step 3) Video Bitrate in order to relaize all DivX with same bitrate, people reply me that are not possible respect the bitrate and explain also why is not possible.
Ok the reply, but Now I reply again, because testing an easy program, I have discovered that to obtain this is only necessary use a DivX calculator as (Ecuador AVI Bitrate Calculator), that I'm using, and calculate
the custom size in MB to insert in AutoGK to obtain the bitrate choosed from user + or - 0,1 - 0,2 % .
In fact in calculator user inserts the exact time of movie (example 103,21112 minutes), the exact bitrate of Mp3 or Ac3 audio of movie
and the bitrate that he wants and program shows the MB utilized from DivX that user will realize.
Then user inserts this parametre in Custom Size of AutoGK (That have 2 pass encoding) and the purpose is relized.
Why is not possible make this if is enough a calculator to obtain the parametre to insert in correct field of your program ???
Thanks
and sorry if I insist on this point.

Andrea

[len0x]

I never said it was impossible. If you think its a good idea then please continue using you current method.

P.S. And the amount of double posts will only increase the number of strikes you might get...

[Exoskeletor]

len0x why don't you give your source code?

[len0x]

I consider such question a joke...

[Exoskeletor]

ok then. stop the project.

[Guest]

ok then. stop the project. Please follow forum rules, specifically, rule 11: avoid "no use" posts; all posts should have a purpose and not be idle chat. Thank you.
:readrule:

[Alwayscamp]

and why would he stop his project.
it is a very nice program. and he should not stop working on it .. that is a very stupid think to say
if you like to use it use it if you don't dont . but he has already said he is not giving it out and that is it why harras him about it.
let me ask you a question if he gave you the source code would you pay him for all the time and effert he put into the program. probably not.
this is his pet and he wants to keep it for himself be greatlful that he has given you access to use the program.

[Exoskeletor]

well you didnt get the point, what i was saying but never mind. i know that it is a goog program. i havent done 50 posts to say hi here.

[medp7060]

I an using version 2.17 beta:

I have five VObs as VTS_01_1.VOB,VTS_01_2.VOB, ect. AutoGK only extract subtitle form the first one (VTS_01_1.VOB), while the whole VOBs was converted into avi correctly.

How can I intercept the process and let AutoGK use the subtile file extracted by Subrip?

[len0x]

CTRL-F8 (see tutorial)

[len0x]

Still not final stable. Fixed encoding of DV sources though :)

[r6d2]

Hi, Len0x, Long time no see.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have experiencied this problem with every movie which spans 2 disks, regardless of AutoGK version. Now using 2.18b.

I use Target Quality 75%, 640 fixed width and 128VBR audio, english audio and spanish subs for the first disk. Encode works perfectly.

Then I use the same settings with the second disk. Audio is out of sync (late) by some seconds, and subs are way out of sync, by some minutes (late).

I ripped both disks to different folders, same settings, using DVD-Decrypter IFO mode.

Anyone else experiencing this? Any known fix?

Best regards,
r6d2

[len0x]

If they are being encoded from different folders I do not see how there can be any problems. How many sources did you try ?

[r6d2]

The last I tried was Rose Red. I've had the same problem with others too.

The problem seems to be non deterministic. I did another encode at 720 width and the out of sync is different.

These are the logs, for if they are of any help.

On this one the audio is behind by 50 seconds, and there are no subtitles at all.

[22/09/2005 8:58:46] AutoGK 2.18b
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Job started.
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Input file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Output file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B.avi
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Output codec: XviD
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Subtitles 1: Espanol
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Format: .AVI
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Target quality: 75%
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Started encoding.
[22/09/2005 8:58:46] Demuxing and indexing.
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Source resolution: 720x480
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Found NTSC source.
[22/09/2005 9:03:05] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[22/09/2005 9:03:06] Analyzing source.
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 100,00
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99,35
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0,00
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0,65
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Source is considered to be FILM.
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Output will contain 119839 frames
[22/09/2005 10:08:36] Decoding audio.
[22/09/2005 10:14:02] Normalizing audio.
[22/09/2005 10:17:28] Encoding audio.
[22/09/2005 10:27:37] Preparing subtitles.
[22/09/2005 10:48:21] Forcing ITU resize method.
[22/09/2005 10:48:21] Running single pass encoding.
[22/09/2005 10:48:21] Writing the following script to D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.911680911680912
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
VobSub("D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2-B.idx")
===========================================================
[22/09/2005 12:36:16] Duration was: 1 hour, 47 minutes 54 seconds
[22/09/2005 12:36:16] Speed was: 18,51 fps.
[22/09/2005 12:36:16] Job finished. Total time: 3 hours 37 minutes 30 seconds


On this one audio is 4 seconds behind, and subtitles 11 seconds behind the corresponding audio.

[21/09/2005 19:30:22] AutoGK 2.18b
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Job started.
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Input file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Output file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2.avi
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Output codec: XviD
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Subtitles 1: Español : Normal
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Format: .AVI
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Target quality: 75%
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Started encoding.
[21/09/2005 19:30:22] Demuxing and indexing.
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Processing file: D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Source resolution: 720x480
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Found NTSC source.
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[21/09/2005 19:33:46] Analyzing source.
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 100,00
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99,64
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0,00
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0,36
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Source is considered to be FILM.
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Output will contain 119821 frames
[21/09/2005 20:12:13] Decoding audio.
[21/09/2005 20:14:59] Normalizing audio.
[21/09/2005 20:16:48] Encoding audio.
[21/09/2005 20:24:10] Preparing subtitles.
[21/09/2005 20:26:08] Running single pass encoding.
[21/09/2005 20:26:08] Writing the following script to D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=1,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
VobSub("D:\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2\agk_tmp\ROSE_RED_STEPHEN_KING_D2.idx")
===========================================================
[21/09/2005 22:16:32] Duration was: 1 hour, 50 minutes 24 seconds
[21/09/2005 22:16:32] Speed was: 18,09 fps.
[21/09/2005 22:16:32] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 46 minutes 9 seconds

[bourtzovlakas]

@len0x

Does the problem, mentioned in this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=100275
affect in any way, Xvid encoding in AutoGK??

[len0x]

Yes, it does, but only if you have P3/celeron or lower processor.

[len0x]

@r2d6
it is really weird, And from what I see - the number of frames is slightly different in both cases. Did you rip them differently?

[r6d2]

Did you rip them differently?Yes. I did a second rip just in case, but with same settings.

Then I tried DVD2SVCD on the second disk, and it was out of sync too, so it may have to do with a source authoring problem. However, the source disk played correctly on my standalone.

I finally tried DVDShrink on that second disk. It worked OK, which may again indicate an authoring problem that goes undetected by parsing the IFO by both AutoGK and DVD2SVCD.

Since the same thing has happened to me with other 2 disk sources, like "Angels in America" and "Spiderman the Animated Series", they may be related. It is indeed weird.

BTW, I noticed the new warning on "standalone settings ignored" in Target Quality mode. I presume this must be a limitation of the 1-pass encode.

1-pass if for when you don't care about file size, such as when fitting several clips per DVD.

Would it be possible for you to easily implement a feature that allows users to have a 2-pass, standalone settings applied, quality selectable mode with fixed width? I mean, I'd like to say something like:

Encode 2 pass, 75% target quality, 640 fixed width video, 128 MP3 audio, ESS support, no matter what space it takes.

Do you think this is both valuable and achievable with little effort form your part?

[len0x]

DivX HT profile cannot be set during quant-based encoding and therefore VBV buffer settings will be ignored by the codec (I think I should change the warning because in case of ESS compatibility custom matrixes are still not used in 1 pass mode as well, so at least some compatibility is retained). It is possible to do a comp test with a fixed width and esimate(+-5%) how big file would be and set target size approriately, but I don't think its worth the effort just to make it HT compatible...

[r6d2]

in case of ESS compatibility custom matrixes are still not used in 1 pass mode as well, so at least some compatibility is retained).Yes, I had noticed that because so far I've had almost no problems with 1-pass, ESS turned on (and therefore using the compat. matrices).

However, some movies still jump/show garbage in high motion scenes (interesting case The Ring Two, opening scene, on the sea/water areas).

Well, thanks anyway. I guess I'll have to do a manual 1-pass comp test to get an idea of the output size for the movie before reencoding it with 2 pass method.

Regards,
r6d2.

[len0x]

I had to repack the installer to fix XviD version. Apart from that nothing was changed in AutoGK itself. If no bugs are found this is gonna become 2.20 stable in a week.

[r6d2]

I don't know if this qualifies as bug, but I guess you may want to have a look at it.

I got a "Bad D2V file" message last night, and a .bad file was generated. The box wanted me to press enter to continue, which interrupted the batch of jobs I had created.

There is no record of this message on the log file, so this may come from a tool you're invoking.

Regards,
r6d2.

[len0x]

This should not be a problem in 2.18.1 (DGIndex was updated).

[r6d2]

This should not be a problem in 2.18.1 (DGIndex was updated).Thanks. I thought 2.18.1 had no other change but XviD. I'm still using 2.18.

[Haubi]

Hi,

I love this wonderful program(-compilation). But maybe I've found a bug:

By processing a ripped DVD movie, VDM hangs after 99% finished. In the Windows TaskManager shows "VIRTUA~1.EXE" a utilization of ~75%.

I had only changed the "Predifined size" setting to: "1 CD (700 MB)". All other settings are identical with standard (no change in hidden options).

Here is the file "lastjob.vcf": VirtualDub.Open("L:\\Filme2\\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\\VIDEO_TS\\agk_tmp\\Vampire 2.18_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(3264,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("L:\\Filme2\\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\\VIDEO_TS\\Vampire 2.18.avi");


Here the Log window: [25.09.2005 13:03:30] AutoGK 2.18b
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Job started.
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Input file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Output file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\Vampire 2.18.avi
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Output codec: XviD
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Audio 1: Audio Stream 0 AC3
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Subtitles: none
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Format: .AVI
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Target size: 700Mb
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Started encoding.
[25.09.2005 13:03:30] Demuxing and indexing.
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Processing file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Processing file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Processing file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Processing file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Processing file: L:\Filme2\DVD Vampire FSK 18 DE EN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Source resolution: 720x576
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Found PAL source.
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[25.09.2005 13:16:44] Analyzing source.
[25.09.2005 13:21:18] Source is considered to be progressive.
[25.09.2005 13:21:18] Output will contain 106615 frames
[25.09.2005 13:21:18] Decoding audio.
[25.09.2005 13:25:13] Normalizing audio.
[25.09.2005 13:28:33] Encoding audio.
[25.09.2005 13:36:32] Audio1 size: 68,469,600 bytes (65.30 Mb)
[25.09.2005 13:36:32] Overhead: 4,264,576 bytes (4.07 Mb)
[25.09.2005 13:36:32] Video size: 661,269,024 bytes (630.64 Mb)
[25.09.2005 13:36:32] Running compressibility test.
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Duration was: 3 minutes 24 seconds
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Speed was: 26,12 fps.
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Compressibility percentage is: 169,80
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Using sharper matrix
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Switching b-frames off
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Chosen resolution is: 720x304 ( AR: 2,37 )
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Predicted comptest value is: 75,86
[25.09.2005 13:39:57] Running first pass.


I use AutoGKnot v2.18.1b and the movie files are:

VTS_01_1.VOB with 1.048.574 KB
VTS_01_2.VOB with 1.048.574 KB
VTS_01_3.VOB with 1.048.574 KB
VTS_01_4.VOB with 263.296 KB
VTS_01_5.VOB with 383.014 KB


Anyone has an idea? Thanks for answers!

[len0x]

I can only recommend either cutting off end of vobs using technique described in FAQ (Q 6.16) or trying latest VDubMod (put 1.5.10.2 in autogk dir).

[ydobon]

Hi.

I've been offline for a while.

I just installed the last AutoGK and found that if I...
1) pick a video (*.mpg, MPEG-2 from a .TS)
2) select audio 1 and audio 2
3) pick options and add as job
4) pick another video (same kind)

then audio selections are not maintained. Didn't AutoGK remember those before? Or is it me remembering incorrectly?


Regards,
Y.

P.S. Len0x, I don't forget about the Spanish guide. Sorry about the delay.

[len0x]

it did, but not anymore it looks like :)

[len0x]

Finally I managed to get stable version out of the door :)
What a relief I have to say - active development phase seems to be over for AutoGK. Thanks to everyone who was helping me with testing/suggestions during these last a couple of years.

[laserfan]

Thanks to You len0x for this great tool. I've used it for lots of things but lately it's been great fun working with high-def material.

Enjoy your hiatus, however long that might be!

[zacoz]

I've only recently started using AGK, but can see it and/or GK will be in my recently used program list for some time to come.

Thanks for all the effort you've put in over the years on it to bring it to the current excellent level. Wishing you the best in the next project that peaks your interest.
:thanks:

[Carraway]

Finally I managed to get stable version out of the door :)
What a relief I have to say - active development phase seems to be over for AutoGK. Thanks to everyone who was helping me with testing/suggestions during these last a couple of years.

I know I gave you hard time during the DAE phase, but I want to say one more time just how terrific this program is and how much I appreciate the work you put into developing this program. Sincerely, thank you.

[Ogig]

Thanks for all the work you have done for the community -- autogk is a great tool and I am using it a lot! Enjoy your real life ;)

:thanks:

[hajj_3]

links need updating!!!

2.18.1 is still linked on the autogk site and not the new 2.20 beta.

thanks.

[bourtzovlakas]

it's not a beta...
It's a stable version...
It is available here...
http://www.autogk.me.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2
http://www.autogk.me.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1

[kC_]

thanks for your efforts, autoGK is a wikked program!
thanks

[BigDid]

... :)
What a relief I have to say - active development phase seems to be over for AutoGK. Thanks to everyone who was helping me with testing/suggestions during these last a couple of years.
A very special thank you for all your efforts and the work done.

I will remember our exchanges as, even if not always easy, something special.

My best wishes for whatever activities you will aim to, keep the focus and the motivation.

Again :thanks:

Didier

[Alwayscamp]

lenox i'd like to say thanks very much. i have told lots of freids of your program and they were thankfull it's a great program .. i haven't used it much of late i do one movie every once in a while but its a really great program. thanks a lot and good luck on anything you decide to go in to

[ch@@boom]

quick question

since dgindex changed and you cant use it anymore to get the frame where the credits start, is there another tool to do this job ?

thx for your effort on the last version of autogk

[evil ryu]

A new DivX version is out: 6.0.3 .
AutoGK says that it's unsupported and doesn't let me use DivX to encode! Lenox can you do somenthing?

Thanks

[zacoz]

since dgindex changed and you cant use it anymore to get the frame where the credits start, is there another tool to do this job ?
Virtualdub will show frame numbers.

[chilled]

when you know FPS and time when credits start you just calculate it in AGK

[CeeJay.dk]

The recommended LAME version is now 3.97b1 and the AutoGK bundle should probably be updated with the new version.
Besides offering better quality than 3.90.3 , it's also a lot faster.

[wdmalik]

The recommended LAME version is now 3.97b1 and the AutoGK bundle should probably be updated with the new version.

Well i updated the files after downloading 3.97b1 version and i am having no problems

[wdmalik]

i think lenox is waiting for latest xvid version, when it is released autogk will be released with most updates like virtualdubmod 1.5.10.2, lame 3.97b1 and most probably new update integration of divx 6

[evil ryu]

If I install the latest XviD CVS I get very undersized avi. Lenox, please, can you update the full package with the latest components?

[bourtzovlakas]

Read the FAQ and also look here... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102651

[evil ryu]

I have correctly uninstallaed and installed the XviD codec :(

[Outerspacelord]

I have correctly uninstallaed and installed the XviD codec :(

You must use the MTK build from Celtic Druid ... (the xvidvfw.dll has to be MTK build).

[therealjoeblow]

when you know FPS and time when credits start you just calculate it in AGK

Heh heh... that was my (small) contribution to AutoGK in the first HiddenOptionsTool :-) Granted, it's only about .0001% of the functionality of AutoGK, but I'm proud to have contribited to len0x's greater vision.

[Reino]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anybody know if it's possible to enter a "Custom size (KB)". In AutoGK it's limited to a Custom size (MB), but I really need to enter a specific amound of KB's. Is there somewhere a batch-file or something which AutoGK creats where I can enter it manually?
(Funny though since you can in Gordian Knot)

[len0x]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anybody know if it's possible to enter a "Custom size (KB)".


its not...

(Funny though since you can in Gordian Knot)

why? they have no common code base...

[bourtzovlakas]

Hi len0x,
Take a look at this... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=744711#post744711
Are you willing to add support for divx container in AutoGK or this qualifies as a new feature??
In version 2.00 beta there was a primary implemantation but later it was removed...

[Reino]

why? they have no common code base...Didn't know that, neither did I think they could have. But could you answer my question, since if I'm right, you're the main AGK programmer?

[len0x]

@bourtzovlakas

Don't have any plans for the time being.

@CoRoNe

I thought I was pretty clear that its impossible.

[stax76]

but I really need to enter a specific amound of KB's.

Could it be you completely forgot to give a explanation why you would want to do something uncommonly like that?

[Reino]

First of all I have an audio file (vorbis Q2) with a size of 11753KB (11,48MB).
I'd like to have an output file (MKV[XviD+Vorbis]) as close to 163840KB (160MB), so that remains 152087KB (148,52MB) for the XviD video part.
But in AutoGK you can't even enter a partial MB size (the 148,52MB), so this is my explanation.

[stax76]

I still don't know why you want a 160 MB file but never mind.

[Reino]

Well this is weird, I ask a question about something and you go flaming about something else. Isn't it my choice to make whether I want a 160MB filesize or not?

[Unregistered16]

... you still haven't answered 'why' you need a 160mB file. And who's flaming?

[manono]

Take it easy guys. len0x said it can't be done, and that's the end of it.

[len0x]

Here is a holiday present for ya all :) I fixed all the bugs that I knew of and updated bundled applications. If you find any problems - please shout ASAP.

[bourtzovlakas]

:thanks:

[laserfan]

Here is a holiday present for ya all :)Omigosh Christmas two weeks early! :D

:thanks:

[len0x]

Slight problems with latest XviD and renamed DXN profiles cased undersize when ESS options was used, so that it fixed.

P.S. I wonder if we can get this thread to magic number of 200 pages :)

[bourtzovlakas]

Slight problems with latest XviD and renamed DXN profiles cased undersize when ESS options was used, so that it fixed.

P.S. I wonder if we can get this thread to magic number of 200 pages :)

:thanks:

Yes we can...
...if you 're willing to resume AutoGK development, we will get to 200 pages in no time...

[len0x]

if I resumed development we would have gone to 300 :)

[bourtzovlakas]

No update available for 2.25-->2.26?
Is the patch, mentioned here ( http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=749409#post749409 ), enough for those who already have v.2.25?

[len0x]

yes its enough. (and no, there is no update to 2.26 from 2.25 since not everybody got that yet - next update(if it will be) will use 2.26 complete as a basis)

[laserfan]

...I wonder if we can get this thread to magic number of 200 pages :)I'm doing my part!

Thanks for 2.25 and the follow-up. Here's hoping nothing else is broken and you will have only visions of sugar plums dancing in your head for the holidays! :D

[zacoz]

You're a champ len0x.

Wishing you and yours a happy festive season. :cool:

[bourtzovlakas]

One question...
The new version of Xvid, bundled with v.2.26, is referred as Xvid0041...
In the version bundled with v.2.20, it was Xvid0039...

Does that mean that this build comes from the 1.2-tree?

[celtic_druid]

No. If it was from the 1.2 tree (CVS head) then it would be 40.

Latest cvs head:
http://www.xvid.org/cvs/chora/co.php/xvidcore/src/xvid.h?login=2&r=1.53&Horde=1a63b09579fb081dab5348a4f8fe24c6
#define XVID_BS_VERSION 40
Latest 1.1 branch:
http://www.xvid.org/cvs/chora/co.php/xvidcore/src/xvid.h?login=2&r=1.51.2.2&Horde=1a63b09579fb081dab5348a4f8fe24c6
#define XVID_BS_VERSION 41

For around 1 day though they were both 40 and 1.1.x and 1.0.x shared a bitstream version for some time.

[bourtzovlakas]

Thanks for the reply...

[sjursen]

I am trying to back up the 3 first Harry Potter dvd`s, Pal dvd , I am using 1/3 dvd setting on every movie, and have the Norwegian soundtrack selected (for my kid, dount like him playing around with the original ones on he`s room) The sound is out of sync both on my standalone and pc. This happens both with audio option on mp3 and ac3.

[FSB-SPY]

Can someone verify if their "Forced Subs Only" work? I have the option checked and I think it's ignoring it?

[BigDid]

I am trying to back up the 3 first Harry Potter dvd`s, Pal dvd , I am using 1/3 dvd setting on every movie, and have the Norwegian soundtrack selected (for my kid, dount like him playing around with the original ones on he`s room) The sound is out of sync both on my standalone and pc. This happens both with audio option on mp3 and ac3.

Hi,
Check this post, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=750279#post750279 it may also apply if using latest AGK release ;)

@Len0x, thanks for the update, don't worry about the differences with the new apps, I'm sure we'll find ( or re-use) workarounds until you can settle things ok :)

Did

[len0x]

its can't be LAME since sjursen reported it happens with AC3 as well...

[Silverboy]

Grazie 1000 Len0x for this new version of AutoGk.
I'm Italian and don't speak english very well, AutoGk is the most popular conversion Tool in my country and I hope to see AutoGk in next future arrive to support x264 codec.
:thanks: a lot for this great Encoding Tool.

Regards
Silverboy

[ricardo.santos]

Originally Posted by len0x
...I wonder if we can get this thread to magic number of 200 pages

nearly there

[swaaye]

The LAME included with 2.26 seems to be using a far more VBR method, instead of ABR. I'm getting MP3s with a ABR of 140kbps when I set AGK for 160kbps VBR. Good to see it saving bitrate on lower complexity audio. I'm working on TNG Season 1 which has very low fidelity voice).

[len0x]

others also noticed that here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=103930)

[Chumbo]

I just updated my DivX codec from 6.0 to 6.1. Now AutoGK 2.26 is blowing up before the UI comes up. I've verified this as it happened on two PCs I updated DivX on. Anyone else having the same problem after the update?

[celtic_druid]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104087
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104042
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104051

[Chumbo]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104087
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104042
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104051
Thank you. I should've searched on divx 6.1 before posting. My bad, sorry.

[scarboro98]

I too am having the same trouble with 2.26. As soon as I try to start the program I get the following error;

AppName: autogk.exe AppVer: 2.2.6.1062 ModName: kernel32.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 0001eb33

The error report reads:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="AutoGK.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="AutoGK.exe" SIZE="553472" CHECKSUM="0xD26C8FED" BIN_FILE_VERSION="2.2.6.1062" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="2.2.6.1062" PRODUCT_VERSION="2.26" FILE_DESCRIPTION="AVI conversion front-end" COMPANY_NAME="autogk.net" PRODUCT_NAME="Auto Gordian Knot" FILE_VERSION="2.2.6.1062" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="AutoGK.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="AutoGK.exe" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Anton Oleynikov. 2003-2005. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="2.2.6.1062" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="2.2.6.1062" LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United Kingdom) [0x809]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="uninst.exe" SIZE="56983" CHECKSUM="0x2EB9EF2C" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/12/2005 15:55:44" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/12/2005 15:55:44" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll" SIZE="217166" CHECKSUM="0x8F406E76" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="10/01/2005 13:31:56" UPTO_LINK_DATE="10/01/2005 13:31:56" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="DGMPGDec\DGIndex.exe" SIZE="438272" CHECKSUM="0x3F428C72" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="10/01/2005 13:30:31" UPTO_LINK_DATE="10/01/2005 13:30:31" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\autocrop.dll" SIZE="94208" CHECKSUM="0x554E4C3F" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="01/03/2005 14:08:44" UPTO_LINK_DATE="01/03/2005 14:08:44" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\ColorMatrix.dll" SIZE="77824" CHECKSUM="0xB3EF1D" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="02/23/2005 06:28:46" UPTO_LINK_DATE="02/23/2005 06:28:46" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\decomb.dll" SIZE="86016" CHECKSUM="0x2CB47432" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/19/2004 00:17:49" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/19/2004 00:17:49" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\FDecimate.dll" SIZE="32768" CHECKSUM="0x45F326C9" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="06/19/2004 12:11:28" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/2004 12:11:28" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\kerneldeint.dll" SIZE="315392" CHECKSUM="0xCF2BC09A" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/07/2004 11:13:59" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/07/2004 11:13:59" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\RemoveGrain.dll" SIZE="23552" CHECKSUM="0x71E3A4AF" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/01/2005 11:41:17" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/01/2005 11:41:17" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll" SIZE="27136" CHECKSUM="0x3D5BFBCF" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/01/2005 11:40:18" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/01/2005 11:40:18" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll" SIZE="27136" CHECKSUM="0x84B8E7A9" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="04/30/2005 08:46:21" UPTO_LINK_DATE="04/30/2005 08:46:21" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="filters\VSFilter.dll" SIZE="303104" CHECKSUM="0xE2587256" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.1.2" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.1.2" PRODUCT_VERSION="1, 0, 1, 2" FILE_DESCRIPTION="VobSub &amp; TextSub filter for DirectShow/VirtualDub/Avisynth" COMPANY_NAME="Gabest" PRODUCT_NAME="VSFilter" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 1, 2" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="VSFilter.DLL" INTERNAL_NAME="VSFilter" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright (C) 2001-2005 Gabest" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.1.2" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.1.2" LINK_DATE="03/20/2005 22:54:13" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/20/2005 22:54:13" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\azid.exe" SIZE="147456" CHECKSUM="0x6F0BA6F1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:47:41" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:47:41" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\azid_P3.exe" SIZE="196608" CHECKSUM="0x5CE0A944" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:45:22" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:45:22" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\azid_P4.exe" SIZE="217088" CHECKSUM="0xE48EC6AB" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:45:31" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/18/2003 20:45:31" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\bbSummary.exe" SIZE="94208" CHECKSUM="0xD4FBBA08" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="02/23/2005 20:13:15" UPTO_LINK_DATE="02/23/2005 20:13:15" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\dtsdec.exe" SIZE="286720" CHECKSUM="0xBB4E44C1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="03/14/2004 00:58:12" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/14/2004 00:58:12" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\MediaInfo.exe" SIZE="450560" CHECKSUM="0x7808F42A" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="04/21/2005 20:19:31" UPTO_LINK_DATE="04/21/2005 20:19:31" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\normalize.exe" SIZE="73728" CHECKSUM="0xFA934799" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="07/18/2004 16:44:20" UPTO_LINK_DATE="07/18/2004 16:44:20" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\vStrip.dll" SIZE="102400" CHECKSUM="0x12019A55" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="06/26/2005 16:25:35" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/26/2005 16:25:35" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\vstrip_ifo.exe" SIZE="153600" CHECKSUM="0xCB1BD783" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tools\lame\lame.exe" SIZE="187392" CHECKSUM="0x57481306" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 14:12:20" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 14:12:20" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\AuxSetup.exe" SIZE="40960" CHECKSUM="0x6D7EDACF" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.4" FILE_DESCRIPTION="VirtualDub Setup Utility" COMPANY_NAME=" " PRODUCT_NAME="VirtualDub" FILE_VERSION="1.4" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="Setup.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="Setup" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998-2001 Avery Lee, All Rights Reserved" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:41" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:41" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\corona.dll" SIZE="125440" CHECKSUM="0x80885C9B" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="03/10/2003 15:42:09" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/10/2003 15:42:09" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\ogg.dll" SIZE="20992" CHECKSUM="0xFAF491CA" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="03/11/2003 21:10:22" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/11/2003 21:10:22" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\SciLexer.dll" SIZE="146944" CHECKSUM="0xE31BED47" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.2.0" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.2.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.52" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Scintilla.DLL - a Source Editing Component" COMPANY_NAME="Neil Hodgson neilh@scintilla.org" PRODUCT_NAME="Scintilla" FILE_VERSION="1.52" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="Scintilla.DLL" INTERNAL_NAME="Scintilla" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright 1998-2003 by Neil Hodgson" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x10000" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.2.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.2.0" LINK_DATE="04/21/2003 02:21:03" UPTO_LINK_DATE="04/21/2003 02:21:03" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\vdicmdrv.dll" SIZE="11340" CHECKSUM="0xF8CC297D" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.3" FILE_DESCRIPTION="VirtualDub installable video compressor/decompressor" COMPANY_NAME=" " PRODUCT_NAME="VirtualDub" FILE_VERSION="1.3" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="vdicmdrv.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="vdicmdrv" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998-2000 Avery Lee, All Rights Reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:44" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:44" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\vdremote.dll" SIZE="9804" CHECKSUM="0xD273B3DD" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.4" FILE_DESCRIPTION="AVIFile-to-VirtualDub-Frameserver glue library" COMPANY_NAME=" " PRODUCT_NAME="VirtualDub" FILE_VERSION="1.4" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="vdremote.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="vdremote" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998-2001 Avery Lee, All Rights Reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:46" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:15:46" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\vdsvrlnk.dll" SIZE="7244" CHECKSUM="0x616E1686" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.4" FILE_DESCRIPTION="VirtualDub server communication library" COMPANY_NAME=" " PRODUCT_NAME="VirtualDub" FILE_VERSION="1.4" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="vdsvrlnk.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="vdsvrlnk" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998-2001 Avery Lee, All Rights Reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:14:51" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/03/2003 23:14:51" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\VirtualDubMod.exe" SIZE="878080" CHECKSUM="0x86F433A9" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.4.0" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.4.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.4.1" FILE_DESCRIPTION="VirtualDub" COMPANY_NAME="" PRODUCT_NAME="VirtualDubMod" FILE_VERSION="1.5.4.1" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="VirtualDubMod.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="VirtualDub" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1999-2003 by Avery Lee, All Rights Reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.4.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.4.0" LINK_DATE="10/04/2003 00:36:55" UPTO_LINK_DATE="10/04/2003 00:36:55" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="VDubMod\vorbis.dll" SIZE="48640" CHECKSUM="0x375A2DDE" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="03/11/2003 21:50:43" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/11/2003 21:50:43" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="983552" CHECKSUM="0x4CE79457" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFF848" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="983552" CHECKSUM="0x4CE79457" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFF848" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>

I love this app and it is the only one I have found that will give great video and audio sync. I hate to see it go but I hope this can be fixed befor it is trule finished.

As a close, thank you for the work and all the help.

[len0x]

I wonder how hard is to read one post up (with all the links)?

[nickolasemp]

Hello len0x! Thank you for your great application. It has helped a lot...
Doing some audio conversions with belight, I found out that aacplus v2 (winamp) can encode surround in just 128kbps!!! And stereo in just (aacplus v2) 48kbps which -in quality- is equal to (mp3) 160kbps! Do you plan on encoding audio to this format?
Once x264 is a bit better, do you consider on encoding movies with this codec?

Agian, thanks a lot for autogk...

[bourtzovlakas]

Hi len0x,
take a look here... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104257
Can these multithreaded versions of Xvidcore be used with AutoGK??

[Random007]

Just a note about further a/v sync problems (yes, I've read all the other threads mentioned): [AGK version 2.2 (I'm a little behind there). Used latest free DVDFabDecrypter (which is updated regularly and supposed to be copy protection friendly). DVD "Immortal". AC3 audio (auto), no subs, xvid.] Problem: resulting avi's audio is out of sync. Used Virtualdub (with AC3 vfw decoder) to re-sync and found the start to be +200ms out & requiring a frame rate of 25.003 fps to be in sync at the end. AGK log deleted but will try the whole process again ASAP with v 2.26. If problem persists I'll also try PowerDVD to see if the ripped DVD syncs OK and eliminate the ripper as the problem. If it does work with PowerDVD, maybe there's a problem with AGK's INF parser? Unless someone else beats me to this investigation or the difficulty is located, or it's already been fixed, I'll get back with my results ASAP (prob. after Xmas).

Merry whatsisname and a happy new thingy to one and all, hohoho etcetc

[Silverboy]

Can you Help Me Please?
If try to launch AutoGk 2.26 I obtain these 2 error messages Why? :confused:

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/193/autogkerror1np.gif

If I disinstall Agk2.26 and Xvid Codec (build 12.15.2005) and reinstall Agk 2.20 and Xvid 09.25.2005 all is Ok

[GravuTrad]

If you looked more on the forum, you will see the answer...:

do this in divx.dll in windows/system32:

ok new plan:
- get BIEW binary editor
- open divx.dll with it in hex mode
- goto 0008ABCD address (F5) and change(F4) 00 to 07, then update (F2)
- works like a charm :)

[wiak]

am getting out of sync when using orignal audio :confused:

[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] AutoGK 2.26
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Job started.
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Input file: F:\incoming\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Output file: F:\incoming\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time.avi
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Output codec: XviD
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Subtitles: none
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Format: .AVI
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Target size: 700Mb
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Custom audio settings: Original
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Started encoding.
[12/21/2005 11:20:13 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Processing file: F:\incoming\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Processing file: F:\incoming\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Processing file: F:\incoming\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Source resolution: 720x576
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Found PAL source.
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Color correction enabled.
[12/21/2005 11:21:57 PM] Analyzing source.
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.00
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Output will contain 94360 frames
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Audio1 size: 90,561,792 bytes (86.37 Mb)
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Overhead: 629,120 bytes (0.60 Mb)
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Video size: 642,812,288 bytes (613.03 Mb)
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Running compressibility test.
[12/21/2005 11:24:18 PM] Writing the following script to F:\incoming\agk_tmp\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("F:\incoming\agk_tmp\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",mmx=true,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Duration was: 1 minute, 47 seconds
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Speed was: 44.06 fps.
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 89.02
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Chosen resolution is: 704x416 ( AR: 1.69 )
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 71.59%
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Running first pass.
[12/21/2005 11:26:05 PM] Writing the following script to F:\incoming\agk_tmp\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("F:\incoming\agk_tmp\Disney - Kim Possible - A Sitch in Time.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",mmx=true,hints=false)
===========================================================
[12/21/2005 11:53:21 PM] Duration was: 27 minutes 16 seconds
[12/21/2005 11:53:21 PM] Speed was: 57.67 fps.
[12/21/2005 11:53:21 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 77.05%
[12/21/2005 11:53:21 PM] Running second pass.
[12/22/2005 12:31:50 AM] Duration was: 38 minutes 28 seconds
[12/22/2005 12:31:50 AM] Speed was: 40.87 fps.
[12/22/2005 12:31:50 AM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 11 minutes 37 seconds

[len0x]

Hi len0x,
take a look here... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104257
Can these multithreaded versions of Xvidcore be used with AutoGK??

I don't see why not :)

[celtic_druid]

Well since the number of threads are hard coded, there is no difference in terms of configuration or use. Even if there was a setting to change the number of threads, it would just mean that AutoGK couldn't adjust it.

AutoGK is bundled with a stable 1.1 build though (it isn't marked as unstable anymore so I guess that qualifies as stable?). The newer builds are 1.2.x which is marked as unstable, for whatever that is worth.

[Outerspacelord]

Just a note about further a/v sync problems ...

... and to all of you with audiosync problems. It is probably a ARccOS protected DVD you trying to make a backup of ... AnyDVD or DVDFab Decrypter will not work.

What you have to do for now is to get PgcEdit v0.6.x (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/version_history/pgcedit.cfm) and the PSL2 plugin v2.x for PgcEdit (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56078) (go check for updates).

Go to "Settings..." in DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0 and change File Mode so that it says "Select Files: Main Movie + IFOs" in On Startup. Close DVD Decrypter.

Do not run any programs like AnyDVD or alike in the background.

Now start PgcEdit (with the plugin installed) and run the plugin in Wizard mode. Just follow the instructions.

If everything went ok start AutoGK and choose the IFO with same name as the VOBs. Thats it.

The SUBs will still probably be out of sync. This you can fix manually. I prefer using SubRip (http://zuggy.wz.cz/) to find the syncerror and then fix the SUBs from VobSub afterwards. Go figure ... and yes this part can be boring.

[bourtzovlakas]

Go to "Settings..." in DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0 and change File Mode so that it says "Select Files: Main Movie + IFOs" in On Startup. Close DVD Decrypter.

Why you say that??
The psl plugin works with DVD Decrypter, in default settings(select all)...

[Outerspacelord]

Why you say that??
The psl plugin works with DVD Decrypter, in default settings(select all)...

Because you only need the main movie ... Why waste all those extra minutes ripping huge files to disk you do not need? That is why! :)

P.S. I got this thread to magic number of 200 pages, yuhu :helpful:

[bourtzovlakas]

The size of extras compared to main movie is not that huge...
...and this method you are suggesting will likely not work in all cases...

[Random007]

re: A/V sync issues

It is likely that out of sync audio was the fault of DVDfab Decrypter, hopefully fixed in this month's (latest) version. See doom9 news page for 29th December. Further testing necessary but odds are that occasional A/V sync problems aren't to do with AGK. One post still puzzles me about someone using Nero Digital on the same riped data without sync issues. Perhaps N D performs FixVTS-like operations on the data first?

[Outerspacelord]

The size of extras compared to main movie is not that huge...
...and this method you are suggesting will likely not work in all cases...

My experience is that a full DVD could be up to double the size compared to only the main movie, depending on how much extras there are on the disk ... And of course how the faster your DVD-drive is to rip will also help you save time. Some people may like to sit and wait (and wait) and have infinite sparetime :)

If you read my post you wil see that I said it will work "for now". By that I ment that it is not bulletproof if protection is updated ... No offence, I was just trying to help :eek:

Will be interesting to see if latest DVDFab Decrypter works again, because it really worked on some earlier ARccOS protections.

[bourtzovlakas]

If you are ripping the DVD to encode to avi, the additional 5-6 minutes of ripping time is nothing compared to the duration of the encoding process...
And if there is a problem with the ripped files, you won 't be able to notice it before the end of the encoding process...
So my point is...
Why risk a 2-hour encode, by messing with a bulletproof ripping method, in order to save 5-6 minutes??

No offence, I am just trying to help too....

[Outerspacelord]

If you are ripping the DVD to encode to avi, the additional 5-6 minutes of ripping time is nothing compared to the duration of the encoding process...
And if there is a problem with the ripped files, you won 't be able to notice it before the end of the encoding process...
So my point is...
Why risk a 2-hour encode, by messing with a bulletproof ripping method, in order to save 5-6 minutes??

No offence, I am just trying to help too....

In my case ...

I want to do lets say 3 movies. I wake up late at nite because I have to do my work at night to earn money to pay the faaacking rent. I want and need to sleep those extra 6 minutes :) And I do not sit and wait for the encoding process to finish. Only when I am out of it :) Is it hard to get? We all got different lifes? This is really a funny discussion because I can give you examples and examples and examples why those 6 minutes can mean a lot. Maybe your life would be completly different if you chose to meet somone else 6 minutes ago? Love! Do you get it? I only wanted to help some people who did not undrestand from the beginning that this trick might help them with their sync problem. I think I explained it very short and easy and people did not have to search and search anymore forever ... More love! And a bit of war around ... Fight the landlord!

But ok time is a very interesting theme? Einstein? Shoot the atrist!

[swaaye]

Bicubic 0.75 without RemoveGrain looks better than Lanczos+RemoveGrain. Did some testing with TV eps. More detail, faster.

[BigDid]

Bicubic 0.75 without RemoveGrain looks better than Lanczos+RemoveGrain. Did some testing with TV eps. More detail, faster.
Hi,

This is because the mode used by remove grain in AGK is mode2. I believe Kassandro has changed or rearrange his presets, because in the beginning remove grain/mode2 was supposed to be just a little more stronger than mode1 (before that in AGK existed undot(), replaced by removegrain mode=1 than mode=2)
You can still use mode=1 equivalent to undot()
I use mode=5 and am very satisfied with it, less compression than mode2, more details, same speed :D
If more strength needed, I use mode 7,8 or 9 from the pre1.0 removegrain set from Kassandro.

If Len0x had continued his project I would have asked him at one point to consider a change, but for now I just live with it and use AGKPal :)

Did

[roise_r]

1)so what is the difference between gordian knot and auto gordian knot, so i can decide what to download...

2)does anyone has info on pocked divx encoder, it looks very simple but i dont know how it exactly works, pls send me some info on that program..10x

3)which is more solid comparing the two... (gordian knot or pocketdivxencoder)

[BigDid]

1)so what is the difference between gordian knot and auto gordian knot, so i can decide what to download...

Hi,

These questions seems related to the ones posted in the Xvid thread (be careful about cross posting), I second Teegedeck answer http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=770606#post770606

Maybe, as suggested, you could read the guides first decide or question after?
see:
AGK
http://www.doom9.org/autogk.htm
http://www.autogk.me.uk/modules.php?name=Tutorial
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=72679
GK:
http://www.doom9.org/gknot-main3.htm
http://www.doom9.org/gknot-main3.htm
http://www.doom9.org/xvid.htm
More in this thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=92089


2)does anyone has info on pocked divx encoder, it looks very simple but i dont know how it exactly works, pls send me some info on that program..10x

You are in the AGK thread, not the better place to post, anyway no knowledge of this program on my side


3)which is more solid comparing the two... (gordian knot or pocketdivxencoder)
See answers to 1/ and 2/

All these informations are available if searched, sorry if you are not familiar with searching,you could begin with the basics, in google:
http://www.google.com/support
http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/
http://www.google.com/about.html
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

But please don't ask the contributors to do your (home)work
:search:
Thank you

Did

[laserfan]

...what is the difference between gordian knot and auto gordian knot, so i can decide what to download...GordianKnot is for advanced users. Download AutoGK and get started--it's as both as high in quality, and easy to use as any tool you might consider.

[hajj_3]

please release a new version with xvid 1.1 included, new sigma/mtk profiles, i know you can download these seperately, but its been a while since 2.26.

thanks.

[Exoskeletor]

I have just create an avi with custom size 690 and the final result was 695. is this normal?

Log:
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] AutoGK 2.26
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Job started.
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Input file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Output file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\IZNOGOOD.avi
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Output codec: XviD
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Audio 1: Franηais AC3 2ch
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Subtitles 1: Greek : Wide/Letterbox
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Format: .AVI
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Target size: 690Mb
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Started encoding.
[5/2/2006 2:23:01 πμ] Demuxing and indexing.
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_1.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_2.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_3.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_4.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_5.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Processing file: C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_PGC_01_6.VOB
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Source resolution: 720x576
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Found PAL source.
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Color correction enabled.
[5/2/2006 2:30:18 πμ] Analyzing source.
[5/2/2006 2:36:33 πμ] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[5/2/2006 2:36:33 πμ] Source is considered to be progressive.
[5/2/2006 2:36:33 πμ] Output will contain 142151 frames
[5/2/2006 2:36:33 πμ] Decoding audio.
[5/2/2006 2:39:35 πμ] Normalizing audio.
[5/2/2006 2:41:46 πμ] Encoding audio.
[5/2/2006 2:59:01 πμ] Preparing subtitles.
[5/2/2006 3:04:48 πμ] Audio1 size: 82,412,880 bytes (78.60 Mb)
[5/2/2006 3:04:48 πμ] Overhead: 5,686,016 bytes (5.42 Mb)
[5/2/2006 3:04:48 πμ] Video size: 635,418,544 bytes (605.98 Mb)
[5/2/2006 3:04:48 πμ] Running compressibility test.
[5/2/2006 3:04:48 πμ] Writing the following script to C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",mmx=true,hints=false)
VobSub("C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD.idx")
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Duration was: 5 minutes 5 seconds
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Speed was: 23,30 fps.
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Compressibility percentage is: 43,74
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Using softer resizer.
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Chosen resolution is: 560x240 ( AR: 2,33 )
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Predicted comptest value is: 58,76%
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Running first pass.
[5/2/2006 3:09:54 πμ] Writing the following script to C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 560
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",mmx=true,hints=false)
VobSub("C:\IZNOGOOD\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\IZNOGOOD.idx")
===========================================================
[5/2/2006 4:10:22 πμ] Duration was: 1 hour, 0 minutes 27 seconds
[5/2/2006 4:10:22 πμ] Speed was: 39,19 fps.
[5/2/2006 4:10:23 πμ] Expected quality of first pass size: 59,67%
[5/2/2006 4:10:23 πμ] Running second pass.
[5/2/2006 5:36:15 πμ] Duration was: 1 hour, 25 minutes 52 seconds
[5/2/2006 5:36:15 πμ] Speed was: 27,59 fps.
[5/2/2006 5:36:15 πμ] Job finished. Total time: 3 hours 13 minutes 14 seconds

[laserfan]

I have just create an avi with custom size 690 and the final result was 695. is this normal?Yes, this is an excellent result, within 0.8% of the target. You should be happy with that I think.

[Chumbo]

I just updated my XviD from the last beta to the official release. Now AutoGK reports this:


[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] AutoGK 2.26
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Job started.
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Input file: D:\Media\movies\myFile.ts
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Output file: D:\Media\movies\myFile.avi
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Output codec: XviD
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Audio 1: PID 0014, Private AC3 Audio Stream
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Subtitles: none
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Format: .AVI
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Target size: 4475Mb
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 1920 pixels
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Custom audio settings: Original
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Started encoding.
[2/6/2006 11:31:57 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[2/6/2006 11:38:11 AM] Processing file: D:\Media\movies\myfile.ts
[2/6/2006 11:38:11 AM] Source resolution: 1920x1088
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Unknown source FPS.
*************************************
[2/6/2006 11:38:11 AM] Job finished. Total time: 6 minutes 13 seconds


Has anyone else run into this? BTW, I'm using the latest DGDecode 1.4.6, but I ran into this with the beta released too. Did not have the problem until updated XviD. I'll uninstall XviD and go back to beta and let you know if it goes back to working. Thank you.

[edit]After uninstalling the official latest XviD release and went back to latest beta, I got the same result. I wasn't sure at this point that this problem is even related to the type of encoding. So I tried DivX too and the same thing happened. So it looks like the problem stems from elsewhere.

[buzzqw]

latest dgindex build changed the way of signaling framerate (fps) into d2v.
I suppose autogk isn't capable of read the new format

BHH

[Chumbo]

latest dgindex build changed the way of signaling framerate (fps) into d2v.
I suppose autogk isn't capable of read the new format

BHH
Thank you, yes, I was going to do that next, i.e., go back a version. I'll keep you posted. :)

[EDIT] I totally forgot to update this. Going back a version did fix the problem. Thanks for all the help. :)

[jgoldberg]

where can I download this? All the links on the main autogk website are dead.

[buzzqw]

here "some" build of DgMpeg !

http://www.64k.it/andres/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=search&query=dgmpg

BHH

[len0x]

Found something on my hdd and decided to release it :)