Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by Mtz

Edit:
@ len0x, is correct the file sizes calculated by you in the "1/3, 1/4, 1/5 and 1/6 of DVDR as predefined sizes" ?
Ex: 1/6DVDR (802MB) is 802*6=4812MB ??
I'm lost in that MB, Kb, KB, bytes stuff. :(

as far as I can tell, after using both + and - DVD formats, each disc can hold up to 4483mb of data... that or there's a problem with nero detecting actual size of the dvd :confused: OR they can be doing the 1000k = 1mb / 1024k = 1mb 'trick' and advertise it as 4.7gb

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
as far as I can tell, after using both + and - DVD formats, each disc can hold up to 4483mb of data... that or there's a problem with nero detecting actual size of the dvd :confused: OR they can be doing the 1000k = 1mb / 1024k = 1mb 'trick' and advertise it as 4.7gb

That's interesting. I'll check that, but I was certain that I was able to burn real 4.7Gb...

As of now I assume DVDR size is 4812Mb. May be it is indeed less.

[jeremymacmull]

DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)

JEREMY

[rmagere]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)
JEREMY

Indeed after burning many (and I do mean many) dvds 4.36GB is the real size (occasionally you can get as far as 4.37GB but it's a bit dvd dependent).

[len0x]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)


I need to change it then...

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
maximum of what I can do for non-auto mode at some point is make ".credits" file containing frame number, which you have to put in input dir.

That would be excellent! :)

[Mtz]

Originally posted by len0x
I need to change it then...

Yes, and maybe 4460 MB for start the calculations, because some DVD's are crap and I think that remained 20 MB it's not a big deal for the whole quality of the novies.

1/3 = 1486 MB
1/4 = 1115 MB
1/5 = 892 MB
1/6 = 743 MB

But...
in DVD2SVCD at the Bitrate tab at CD size, when you choose DVD output they have:
4350 for DVD+R and
4480 for DVD-R
Also D2SRoba.

:rolleyes: "Lost in Translation" :D

[marteaga]

Originally posted by Mtz
Convert that idx/sub (binary format) into .srt or .sub (microDVD) with VobSub or SubRip (directly from the vob). It's better to have selectable subtitles.



Is there any chance to convert idx/sub to .srt or .sub directly, that is, without the original vobs???

[starwave]

View the thread AutoGK suggestions for DVD-R & DVD+R sizes. I have a Plextor PX-708A and all brands of DVD's I have tested have the same size (4483MB).In the thread you can find sizes from 1/1 to 1/30 DVD. Latest sizes can be useful to put entire TV series like Star Trek into one single DVD.I have tested it and it looks great.

[Hobojobo]

@marteaga: Just open the idx file with SubRip instead of the the vobs. It rips the subs from the idx/sub file.

Or did I get you wrong?

[pindawg]

Originally posted by marteaga
Is there any chance to convert idx/sub to .srt or .sub directly, that is, without the original vobs???

I usually download them from here: http://www.divxsubtitles.net if I don't have the VOB's, or just don't feel like doing them myself.

[Elnoyle]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Sorry for appearing stupid, but can someone please explain what len0x means by:

'- added support for ".ivtc" control file in input dir to force normal IVTC on hybrid-detected material'

I tried creating a dummy file with the same name as the ***.ifo file but giving it a .ivtc extension instead, that didn't do anything - can anyone provide the details on how to activate this feature please?

thanks,

The way I did it was NOT naming the ".ivtc" file the same as the IFO file. I simply created a dummy ".ivtc" file (with exactly that extension and filename... it has no actual name). When I put it into my directory with the IFO and VOBs, it worked beautifully.

I hope that helps.

[rmagere]

How do you create a file without filename in windows? I know that is trivial in linux and unix but windows complains about lack of filename.

P.S. I know how to create it in dos (or rather in the command prompt with "copy con .ivtc" but I don't think that is a trivial operation for a newby and althought the .itvc is not a newby option that doesn't mean it should be more complex than needed.

[Carraway]

Originally posted by rmagere
How do you create a file without filename in windows? I know that is trivial in linux and unix but windows complains about lack of filename.

Here's the way I do it:

--Open notepad
--Save blank file as ".ivtc", including the quotes, into the folder.

If you don't use quotes, it'll save it as .ivtc.txt, and that's just no good.

There may be an easier way than this, but it definitely works.

[goofer456]

Originally posted by Jorgen
Well, according to http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=faqdp450&v=press#gen13 .sub subtitles are supported ;)

But rar-compressed .sub files are not supported :( which is why I requested an option to disable compression.
This option could preferably be set in a config txt file for advanced users - no need to confuse newbies with another option.
/Jorgen

This is easy. Just Unrar the .sub file and rename it to the name of the AVI file. Burn both files on a CD/DVD and voila...

I have done this about ten times with succes. Now if only Kiss would fix the subtitles timing problem...

[len0x]

Originally posted by goofer456
This is easy. Just Unrar the .sub file and rename it to the name of the AVI file. Burn both files on a CD/DVD and voila...

I have done this about ten times with succes. Now if only Kiss would fix the subtitles timing problem...

Please do not confuse the audience. None of standalones support vobsub format.

[marteaga]

Originally posted by Hobojobo
@marteaga: Just open the idx file with SubRip instead of the the vobs. It rips the subs from the idx/sub file.

Or did I get you wrong?

No, you are not mistaken!!, that was right what I asked, thanks :)

[QNX]

2 len0x

what about HDTV files encoding? with 60FPS?

i've tried to encode with GK - FPS lovering from 60 to 47 :(

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX

what about HDTV files encoding? with 60FPS?

i've tried to encode with GK - FPS lovering from 60 to 47 :(

I'm not sure that I follow this request. For a start AutoGK doesn't support HDTV resolutions/ratios. FPS is secondary issue here. Are you trying to feed in 60p or 60i source? lowering of FPS is due to ivtc, which is happening because of source being detected as FILM (log will tell you more).

[MrSocko101]

Have used AutoGK a lot lately, never had problems, but now i've upgraded to 1.08 and selected 1/3 CD Size and got 116MB (instead of 233MB)...
I'm using the xvid rc3 (or did i just miss that this codec isn't supported with the filesize-setting yet?).

thx in advance

Socko

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Carraway
Here's the way I do it:

--Open notepad
--Save blank file as ".ivtc", including the quotes, into the folder.

If you don't use quotes, it'll save it as .ivtc.txt, and that's just no good.

There may be an easier way than this, but it definitely works.

A few more steps at first will make the job much easier in the future:

1) Create a new text file anywhere you want (right click anywhere in an open folder, select "New" from the popup menu, pick "Text Document". That will create "New Text Document.txt"

2) Edit that text file with notepad and enter the following text on the first line:

echo >.ivtc

3) Close and save the text file

4) Rename that text file from "New Text Document.txt" to "IVTC.bat"

5) Now you can keep a copy of this batch file handy, and everytime you need the illusive ".ivtc" file, copy the batch file to the folder with your .vob's, double click it, and voila, your ".ivtc" file is created.

6) (Most important step) - Rant at Microsoft for removing functionality from their $500 OS's that was there in the $39 original version of DOS.

[((( atom )))]

Originally posted by Mtz
Yes, and maybe 4460 MB for start the calculations, because some DVD's are crap and I think that remained 20 MB it's not a big deal for the whole quality of the novies.

1/3 = 1486 MB
1/4 = 1115 MB
1/5 = 892 MB
1/6 = 743 MB

until now i always went for 1400mb when making my movies. this way i can alway fit 3 onto a dvd or split them for 2 cds, since not every pc has a dvd rom. to me it is always important to keep as compatible as possible.

[vanart3030]

Man you are the greatest!
Thank you so much for including the sizes for DVDR media!
That is a really software for the enthusiast made by someone who listens!
Cheers ,
Art

[vanart3030]

DVD-5
DVD-5 is a single sided single layer DVD that stores up to about 4.7 GB = 4 700 000 000 bytes and that is 4.38 computer GigaBytes where 1 kilobyte is 1024 bytes(4 700 000 000B/1024 = about 4 589 843KB/1024 = about 4485MB/1024 = about 4.38GB) . Video DVD, DVD-R/W and DVD+R/W supports this format. Often referred to as "single sided, single layer".

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/glossary?all#DVD-5

[len0x]

Originally posted by vanart3030

Thank you so much for including the sizes for DVDR media!


make sure you get version 1.09 for proper DVDR sizes...

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi, i've just encoded the PAL Casablanca DVD with vbr mp3 audio. The DVD includes only mono audio, but final mp3 source is encoded as stereo. i've checked ifo and stream info, in both the source is manchend as mono...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hi, i've just encoded the PAL Casablanca DVD with vbr mp3 audio. The DVD includes only mono audio, but final mp3 source is encoded as stereo. i've checked ifo and stream info, in both the source is manchend as mono...

No one said that it will be encoded as mono. In fact if you have a look at TODO kist on the first page - you'll see...

P.S. Can you post stream info file from it, plz?

[len0x]

btw version 1.09 includes a couple of things which some of you wanted to see:
- support for cartoon mode
- support for credits encoding

both are working only for XviD 1.0...

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by len0x
btw version 1.09 includes a couple of things which some of you wanted to see:
- support for cartoon mode
- support for credits encoding

both are working only for XviD 1.0...

I bow to your greatness :D how would I do the credit option.. just find the frame I want it to start at, and type the number in a .credits file? (same question for cartoon mode)

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
just find the frame I want it to start at, and type the number in a .credits file? (same question for cartoon mode)

yes, exactly - first line should just contain frame number. (for ".cartoon" file contents don't matter)

[jo42]

FWIW, I tried 1.08 beta on a 3GHz P4 with Hyperthreading turned on and it crashed right after double-clicking the AutoGK icon. I'll try 1.09 tonight and post the Dr. Watson text log dump file - it shows the instruction where it biffed.

Rebooting and turning HT off, AutoGK 1.08 worked just fine. I'm running Windows XP SP1 with current updates.

[pixolex]

Thanks Len0x for credit option...it's the thing i have been expecting...many thanks... :D

Maybe some one can make litle aplication to open a window and can set the credits with a slider and put the frame number in that .credits file...it's not your ideia do that in the gui isn't it... :(

[Alwayscamp]

Hi and thanks for the AutoGK.
iv'e scooped through this thread and a few others and was still a little confused wuth the .credits and the .cartoon files.

Q. where do i put the file i which folder?

sorry if its been answered already
thanks in advance

[RathO]

@len0x: wow, my "credits option" request has been filled very quickly!! So many thanx!!! It's so incredeble how much bitrate credits can eat up! It was a must :p

Best regards!

Suggestion: The DVD Decryptor icon beside the input directory should be enabled so we can clic on it and it automatically opens the so needed program...

[RathO]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
Q. where do i put the file i which folder?
Into the input folder

[Wolfman]

lets get ahead of the game, predefined DVD sizes are all for 4.3gb media, what about us folks using DL 8.5gb?? :sly:

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
yes, exactly - first line should just contain frame number. (for ".cartoon" file contents don't matter)

@lenox,

Thanks for the new features (.ivtc, .cartoon and .credits). Just a copule of small housekeeping issues:

1) I used .ivtc yesterday, works fine, and it's reported as being used in the log so you know it was correctly activated. But it gets activated _after_ analyzing the source, and determining the hybrid thresholds - if you are just going to override the hybrid deinterlacing, could you eliminate that step and save the time (it took about 10 minutes on an Athlon XP 2600+), or do you still need to do the analysis anyways?

2) I used the cartoon option today, and I'm _assuming_ that the flag was actually set and the feature enabled, but there's no mention of it in the log, so I don't really know if it was actually used or not. Could you report "using cartoon mode" or something similar in the log?

3) credits - didn't try them, but same comment as #2 if it's not reported in log.

Thanks again.

[jo42]

0010 bits:

1.09 beta is works on my 3GHz P4 HT with HyperThreading turned on.

Good stuff. :)

[jo42]

Did a simple HyperThreading disabled vs. HyperThreading enabled encoding speed test. Same source, same encode settings, XviD 1.0 RC3 codec. Output files where byte-for-byte identical.

Compression test
HT off: 16 minutes 54 seconds, 10.12 fps
HT on: 14 minutes 22 seconds, 11.91 fps

First pass
HT off: 1 hour, 34 minutes 16 seconds, 36.29 fps
HT on: 1 hour, 19 minutes 58 seconds, 42.78 fps

Second pass
HT off: 2 hours 22 minutes 34 seconds, 24.00 fps
HT on: 2 hours 2 minutes 33 seconds, 27.92 fps

w00t!!

[len0x]

Originally posted by jo42
0010 bits:

1.09 beta is works on my 3GHz P4 HT with HyperThreading turned on.


I didn't touch anything though :)
Are you sure that AutoGK starts _every_ time OK ?

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by len0x

P.S. Can you post stream info file from it, plz?

0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 309 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Nederlands / LBA: 312 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Deutsch / LBA: 355 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Français / LBA: 363 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 61 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 4:3 / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

[len0x]

I've added support for mono mp3 encoding, but in my test if you have stereo material - lame mono option (-m m) produces almost the same output. I don't have real 1 channel DVDs atm, so may be GizmoDerMokwai can tell us if it works properly on those...

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
I've added support for mono mp3 encoding, but in my test if you have stereo material - lame mono option (-m m) produces almost the same output.

My "A chump at Oxford" (Laurel&Hardy) DVD has a Dolby Digital Dual Mono audio, and as I suppose AutoGK 1.10 encode it as stereo. This is the BeSweet log:

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -
azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h --cbr -b 64 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 192kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------


Of course no one could recognize a stereo from a dual mono by its name (AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps) and I've seen a lot of dvd with mono tracks like this. So forcing should be the only choice, isn't it?

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

Of course no one could recognize a stereo from a dual mono by its name (AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps) and I've seen a lot of dvd with mono tracks like this. So forcing should be the only choice, isn't it?

yep, does it work properly when forced ?

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
does it work properly when forced ?

Yes, this is the BeSweet log:

BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 03/26/04 , 21:11:18.

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\gk_tmp\PPP
AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01
2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch
192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal )
-lame( -m m -h --cbr -b 64 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 192kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Mono
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------


I've verified that the mp3 is a mono 64 kbps 480000 Hz one. And I love the speed of Lame mono encoding :D !

Thanks.

[RathO]

Anyone had success with ".credits" yet? 'cause i didn't...:confused:

Regards

[AlmanNewfred]

How do you find the frame number of the credits? DVD2AVI doesn't seem to show the numbers.

Sorry if this was already explained. I look but didn't see it.

[Carraway]

Two things:

First, I tried to use the .credits file in two different movies, and both ended up oversized. 10 Things I Hate About You ended up at 735 MB, American Beauty ended up at 726 MB. I noticed no quality decrease in the credits, despite the fact that after 10 Things was finished encoding, the Xvid settings looked like this:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/10things/xvid_settings.gif

(I had American Beauty and 10 Things queued, so I didn't get a chance to check out the settings after American Beauty was done since it then jumped right into encoding 10 Things, but I assume they would've looked the same).

Anyway, I basically have no idea what happened. Here are random (and in all likelihood, useless) files from each encoding: American Beauty (http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/americanbeauty/) and 10 Things I Hate About You (http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/10things/).

The second thing has to do with the red/green ghosting that affects me and apparently no one else. :)

I've got a new wrinkle in the search for what causes it. I did two passes at episode S01E15 of Will & Grace, one with standalone support, one without.

Screenshots with ESS support:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_ess01.jpg http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_ess02.jpg

And without:
http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_noess01.jpg http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_noess02.jpg

In any event, in the AVS file that was produced by the ESS version, changing the second instance autocrop to a multiple of 8 eliminates the ghosting.

OK, done being annoying now. :)

[MomoNyo]

Hi len0x

Seeing as you're in a feature-adding mood these days (:p) is there any chance of adding that no-audio option a few of us asked for way back? I've been using FairUse lately purely because I can make video-only encodes with it, but it would be nice to get back to using AutoGK again.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by MomoNyo

Seeing as you're in a feature-adding mood these days (:p) is there any chance of adding that no-audio option a few of us asked for way back?

Maybe a .noaudio ? ;)