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len0x
6th February 2004, 20:32
@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).

therealjoeblow
7th February 2004, 02:03
Originally posted by len0x
@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).


Sorry, I deleted the 2-parts and resplit the file myself. I loaded it into VdubMod, set the in-point at the very beginning, seeked to exactly the same keyframe that the AutoGK auto-split broke the file and set the out-point, saved as part one; then set in-point at that same key frame, and clicked the button to go to the end of file, and set that as out-point, then saved as part 2 - both parts were just under 700 mb. There was no part missing from the end on the manually split file.

The original encode of Vertigo was done at 704x?? - To see what would happen, I re-encoded it at 640x??, also 2-disc, and let AutoGK autosplit it - very similar problem - it got split at a slightly different frame near the same point (because with a different encode size the keyframes are different), and this time there was only about 15 seconds or ~2mb clipped from the end of the file, but it was still clipped before the credits finished. Again, a manual split at the same keyframe as AutoGK chose worked fine. So that's all 3 files that I ever tried to encode with AutoGK to 2-cd's that got clipped at the end (Funny Face 1 time, Vertigo 2x). Strange.


ALSO: Another anomaly (I won't call it a bug, because file size predictability isn't an exact science, I do understand). I encoded 'Toy Story' - 1 disc, auto size, auto audio - AutoGK chose 640x352 and 128vbr mp3, and the final size came out to 710 MB (744,841,216 bytes). No biggie to deal with - I just reencoded the audio to OGG @ 126kb/s with oagmachine/besweet, (that came out to 67.5mb instead of the 73.6mb MP3) and re-muxed that with AutoGK's video stream to a matroska container which has lower overhead than OGM to come out with a final size of 698 MB (732,454,761 bytes) - muxing this to ogm came out to 703.5mb.

Here's the log of the oversized .avi encode, if that's of any value...


[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Input dir: D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Output file: D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\Toy Story.avi
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Audio: Unknown language
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Subtitles: none
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Codec: XviD
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Started encoding.
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Found 115970 frames
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Encoding audio.
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Audio size: 77,273,576 bytes (73.69 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Overhead: 4,638,848 bytes (4.42 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Video size: 652,090,776 bytes (621.88 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Running compressibility test.
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Limiter(0,255,0,255)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"AQAAAICEHgCHtwkARDpcVE9ZX1NUT1JZXFZJREVPX1RTXGdrX3RtcFxUb3kgU3RvcnlfY29kZWMubG9nAAB0AG0AcABcAFQAbwB5ACAAUwB0AG8AcgB5AF8AYwBvAGQAZQBjAC4AbABvAGcAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABkAAAABQAAABAAAABkAAAAZAAAAAYAAAACAAAAAAAAAAEAAADwAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAEAAACWAAAAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAAAIAAAACAAAAAgAAAAgQEBAREhUYEBAQEBETFhkQEBESFBYZHRAQEhUYGx8kEREUGB4jKS8SExYbIyw2QRUWGR8pNkZYGBkdJC9BWHMTExMTFBYZHRMTExMUFxoeExMUFRcaHSITExUZHCAlKhQUFxwjKjA4FhcaICo1QE0ZGR0lMEBTaB0eIio4TWiJAAAAAAoAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZAAAACgAAAAAAAAABAAAAHgAAAAEAAAAyAAAAAQAAAPQBAABaAAAAMgAAAAAk9AA8AAAAPAAAAPoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFxoaW50ZmlsZS5tdmgAbABlAC4AbQB2AGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXHZpZGVvZ2suc3RhdHMAAC4AcwB0AGEAdABzAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABQAAAAUAAAAFAAAABAnAAAQJwAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Duration was: 13 minutes 44 seconds
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Speed was: 7.04 fps.
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 71.53
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x352 ( AR: 1.82 )
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 71.53
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Running first pass.
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Limiter(0,255,0,255)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\Toy Story.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Duration was: 3 hours 59 minutes 49 seconds
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Speed was: 8.06 fps.
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 70.30
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Running second pass.
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\TOY STORY AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\Toy Story.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Duration was: 3 hours 57 minutes 57 seconds
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Speed was: 8.12 fps.
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Job finished.

buckonine
7th February 2004, 03:41
My father has problems hearing a lot of the spoken audio in most movies. so when i make movies for him to watch i use permanent subs so he can watch them on his stand alone. my question is this. i would prefer to use external subs and hope and pray one day stand alones will support this. but i would also like to not have to encode each movie twice. is there anyway to resume an encode or anyway to use external subs and then basically mux them with an already encoded a/v source? not sure if this is said exactly right, but hopefully you get the idea

MediaMage
7th February 2004, 13:05
go for a standalone that supports external subs

my hiteker 940 supports .srt subtitles (also multiple!!)

subrip performs ocr on the subs,
this isnīt something for beginners, but if you get used to it, itīs a great thing.

WorBry
8th February 2004, 05:48
Hi just upgraded to AutoGK 0.92b. My first encode using this version (XviD, Custom size: 630MB and Auto-width)is giving the following message when opened in VirtualDub "Warning: Nothing to ouput B-frame decoder lag" and the video appears "stripy". Never experienced this with AutoGK 0.8. Would be grateful for for advice on how to resolve this, as I use native VirtualDub to clip the XviD/DivX movies and also to re-encode in a decimated DivX format for playing in PocketMVP on my iPAQ pocketpc.Thanks.

duwde
8th February 2004, 09:18
Hi Len0x,

Are you going to add a second subtitle option ? :) I know some people have already asked that (including myself), but I think that would be a really nice feature. Or maybe (if it's easier for you) an checkbox like "include all subtitles".

You may be wondering why would I want a second subtitle, and the answer is that I like to keep the original english subtitle (for myself) and the portuguese subtitle to my friends/family. I bet a lot of people from other countries (that doesn't speak english) would love this option as well.

Btw, again, congratulations for the hybrid threshold calculations ! it's now 10x better :)

len0x
8th February 2004, 13:59
Originally posted by duwde
Are you going to add a second subtitle option ? :)

You all will be happy to know that its done already. version 0.95 will be released on monday and will be feature freeze release.

len0x
8th February 2004, 14:06
Originally posted by WorBry
"Warning: Nothing to ouput B-frame decoder lag"

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70173

WorBry
8th February 2004, 15:11
OK, so the explanations in the thread indicate that the message does not imply an error as such and that there is nothing to worry about. I assume this means that I can still use VDub for clipping etc.

Actually, on retesting I find that the XviD encodes I made with AutoGK 0.8 also give the same message. Strange, I usually check the File Information with VDub after each encode and could have sworn that I didnt have this message before. Maybe I need to get out more.

Thanks anyway and also for AutoGK, not least because my wife is happier that I spend less time "fooling around" on the computer - as if !!

GizmoDerMokwai
8th February 2004, 16:47
checking back from some idle time, hi girls :D

first to say: nice lenox, i like the second audio track support and the queue, but i have two little suggests:

1. wouldt be nice to can set different settings for the queue list, like different advanced settings and things

2. wouldt be nice to have a max. width resolution option, cause mx standalone player doesn't support resolutions with width above 640...

SonGokuDBZ
8th February 2004, 21:02
Just a very stupid question:
Normally only the first word begins with a big letter, but what about "Output File"?

zerocoolnl
8th February 2004, 21:03
No answers needed to stupid questions right?

idanm19
8th February 2004, 22:33
@lenox

Thanks for the 2nd sub support :)

Did you think about adding to AutoGK a ripping option (like in R4R)
that will realy make process one step... (althow you might have a problem with the queue, how to make the second rip automatic?)
what do you think ?

BxWrapper
9th February 2004, 06:31
Originally posted by idanm19
@lenox

Thanks for the 2nd sub support :)

Did you think about adding to AutoGK a ripping option (like in R4R)..........

Most of the recent questions (including mine on the other thread) have been asked before. I knew this because I have read all 70+ pages in a few go :D

I guess this is the consequence of having a big thread. People may have problem to dig in and tend to look at the first and a few last page only.

Bxwrapper

r6d2
9th February 2004, 11:52
Originally posted by BxWrapper
I guess this is the consequence of having a big thread. People may have problem to dig in and tend to look at the first and a few last page only. Since you took the time to read the whole thread, then you know the solution is in the works... ;)

len0x
9th February 2004, 12:44
On of the last betas before 1.0 release is out. No more features will be added in 1.0, only bugfixes.

pixolex
10th February 2004, 01:42
Originally posted by len0x
On of the last betas before 1.0 release is out. No more features will be added in 1.0, only bugfixes.

:scared: credit compression just after 1.0 isn't it :( but you said that after 1.0 you will not have time to continue autogk developement :(

CeeJay.dk
10th February 2004, 06:21
I figured out what my problem with CTRL + F10 was.
It conflicted with Samurize though Samurize does not use CTRL + F10 AFAIK.

To make it work I have to close Samurize and then run AutoGK - it will not work if Samurize is closed after AutoGK is started.

I'll try and see how theese features work for me.

duwde
10th February 2004, 08:03
Hi len0x,

The second subtitle option isn't working for me (I'm using 0.95b), only the primary subtitle is being generated. Example, if I choose English as the 1st sub, and portuguese as the 2nd, autogk shows "english" on both in the logfile and only the 1st one (english) is being generated (.idx and .rar). Take a look in this screenshot:

http://www.isec.com.br/2nd-subtitle/autogk.jpg

Dvddecrypter is configured to include pgc and angle number, and if I choose any of the subs as the 1st subtitile in autogk, it works flawlessly. Only the second sub doesn't work at all. You can check the autogk log of this session at:

http://www.isec.com.br/2nd-subtitle/

Any ideas ?

kockott
10th February 2004, 09:57
- Version 0.95b don't starts BeSweet with MP3 VBR 80 kbit, AutoGK use automatic the AC-3 Stream for Encoding - thats terrible - i need 80 kbit VBR MP3 ;)

- Version 0.92b works great with BeSweet by MP3 VBR 80 kbit - the Version 0.95b have a bug ?

jeremymacmull
10th February 2004, 10:16
I think V95b only allows 128k or above in full auto mode

not sure tho

kockott
10th February 2004, 11:03
hmm thats uncool - Video Sound is not a Music CD - i think 80 kbit VBR MP3 ist the best choice for high compress movies like 700 MB

Leak
10th February 2004, 11:53
Would you mind adding a download just for the updated version of Decomb somewhere? I'm not using GordianKnot, but a bugfixed version of Decomb would always be much appreciated... :)

(And I guess I'm not alone here - okay, I'm currently downloading the AutoGK update, but that's a tad bigger than just Decomb...)

np: Autechre - We R Are Why? (WAP72)

len0x
10th February 2004, 12:33
Originally posted by pixolex
:scared: credit compression just after 1.0 isn't it :( but you said that after 1.0 you will not have time to continue autogk developement :(

I never promised credits compression...

len0x
10th February 2004, 12:36
Originally posted by kockott
- Version 0.95b don't starts BeSweet with MP3 VBR 80 kbit, AutoGK use automatic the AC-3 Stream for Encoding - thats terrible - i need 80 kbit VBR MP3 ;)

- Version 0.92b works great with BeSweet by MP3 VBR 80 kbit - the Version 0.95b have a bug ?

What are you selecting in audio option ? Auto or VBR MP3 ?

len0x
10th February 2004, 12:44
Originally posted by duwde

The second subtitle option isn't working for me (I'm using 0.95b), only the primary subtitle is being generated. Example, if I choose English as the 1st sub, and portuguese as the 2nd, autogk shows "english" on both in the logfile and only the 1st one (english) is being generated (.idx and .rar).


Do you know how to switch between subs in vobsub ? Because only first one is displayed (the one which is selected in *.idx file). Your logs clearly indicate that everything was ok (log on the screenshots, just have a bug in it), but actual *.idx and *.sub should be fine.

p.s. to switch between subs right click on taskbars's icon of vobsub and select another one.

len0x
10th February 2004, 12:47
Originally posted by kockott
hmm thats uncool - Video Sound is not a Music CD - i think 80 kbit VBR MP3 ist the best choice for high compress movies like 700 MB

what's the problem ? manual selection of 80kbps with VBR MP3 should be always possible. Auto mode will not allow you to do that anymore (that was a bug). So please be _very_ specific when reporting bugs, I'm not a mind reader...

nixo
10th February 2004, 13:03
Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.

--
Nikolaj

kockott
10th February 2004, 13:12
Originally posted by len0x
what's the problem ? manual selection of 80kbps with VBR MP3 should be always possible. Auto mode will not allow you to do that anymore (that was a bug). So please be _very_ specific when reporting bugs, I'm not a mind reader...

yes manual selection of 80 kbit with VBR MP3 dooesn't works with 0.95 Autogk - BeSweet not encode the MP3 File - AutoGK use the AC3-File

autok 0.92 with the same configuration works for 80 kbit vbr manual

len0x
10th February 2004, 13:21
Originally posted by kockott
yes manual selection of 80 kbit with BVR MP3 dooesn't works with 0.95 Autogk - BeSweet not encode die MP3 File - AutoGK use the AC3-File


what's the target size/mode ?

len0x
10th February 2004, 13:33
with a fix for audio settings... (in 0.95 Auto mode was always used)

Gordie Howe
10th February 2004, 14:00
Originally posted by len0x
I never promised credits compression...


What do you think of the idea of allowing the (advanced) user to manually specify a frame number where the credits start?

Anyone advanced enough to know about credit compression could easily get the frame number from VDub or DVD2AVI. That way it wouldn't require auto detection of the credits, and it could just go in the advanced settings along with 2nd audio track.

len0x
10th February 2004, 14:37
Originally posted by Leak
Would you mind adding a download just for the updated version of Decomb somewhere? I'm not using GordianKnot, but a bugfixed version of Decomb would always be much appreciated... :)


I asked sh0dan and he put it here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70579

CeeJay.dk
10th February 2004, 18:52
Originally posted by nixo
Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.

Thats a AutoGK bug - I get that too if AutoGK can't find Xvid.

CeeJay.dk
10th February 2004, 19:07
Len0x , after you stop focusing on AutoGK development would you please look into making Gordian Knot easier to use ?

I tried it again after not staying in touch with it for months and it really is a useability nightmare.

I suggest baseing it off the AutoGK interface with more "advanced" buttons under the normal options.
This way each steps settings could either be determined automaticly like AutoGK does it or manually.

You could even join the two programs into one codebase with two slightly different UI's.
That should make it easier to maintain both projects as improvements to one would also benefit the other.
Which UI should be started could then be determined by two different shortcuts to the program in the start menu.
One to start AutoGK - The simple mode , and one to start GK - full mode.

CeeJay.dk
10th February 2004, 21:08
0.96 have a very serious bug.

When you try to browse to the folder that contains the DVD data AUTOGK locks up and has to be killed using the taskmanager.

This ofcourse makes 0.96 totally unusable for me and to make it all worse I have deleted the 0.95 update so I can't go back to that one.

Please issue a fix soon.

therealjoeblow
11th February 2004, 04:21
Originally posted by len0x
@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).


Ok, I did another encode last night, 2-CD's (1400mb), AC3-6 channel sound, 640x352. AutoGK split the file and chopped about 25 seconds from the end, again before the credits ended. A manual split of the file at the same keyframe as AutoGK chose gave a full-length 2nd file (albeit, not a 50/50 split, but still, both parts are under 703mb, so no problem).

File sizes as follows:

Full File = 1.36 GB (1,467,996,160 bytes)

AutoGK Split 1 = 698 MB (732,002,304 bytes)
AutoGK Split 2 = 699 MB (733,673,472 bytes)

My Split 1 = 697 MB (731,703,296 bytes)
My Split 2 = 701 MB (735,731,712 bytes)
(see note 2 below about why file1 sizes are slightly different)


So, that's 4 out of 4 encodes that I've done where the autosplit does this - anyone else notice this happening? Really, it's not a big deal for me, since I prefer to split the files manually for the following 2 reasons:

1) Autospliting cannot employ artificial intelligence to pick the best split point - in many cases it will split the file right in the middle of an action scene, or even worse, during a conversation. Whereas, if you split the file manually, you can usually move back and forth a few keyframes and pick a better point like a scene change or a lull in conversation, and still be within the 700mb mark.

and

2) AutoKG *appears* to use the VDubMod interleave defaults of 500ms preload and interleave=1 frame for everything, including AC3 audio? In my experience those settings produce files that play back choppy during slow pans using the InterVideo audio codec (this doesn't appear to be as big a problem with the opensource AC3Filter codec, but then, not everyone uses that). Settings of 128ms and 128ms for interleave/preload playback perfectly smooth using any AC3 decoder. That, BTW is why my file1 is slightly different than AutoGK's file1, because the muxing overhead is a little lower with the 128ms/128ms settings (i'm sure the experts know this, it's noted only for those who care to learn a bit by reading these messages).

So, no big deal, as long as AutoGK will always leave the unsplit final file on completion - this will be an issue, though, if AutoGK is reprogrammed to delete the unsplit file on cleanup.

kockott
11th February 2004, 07:27
can i use fastest mode for divx 5.1.1 with autogk ? autogk use the standardmode

kockott
11th February 2004, 09:47
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
0.96 have a very serious bug.

When you try to browse to the folder that contains the DVD data AUTOGK locks up and has to be killed using the taskmanager.

This ofcourse makes 0.96 totally unusable for me and to make it all worse I have deleted the 0.95 update so I can't go back to that one.

Please issue a fix soon.

the dvd data is decrypted ?

hmm here is the link for Version 0.92 - 0.95 i have already delete

but 0.96 makes 80 kbit vbr mp3 - big thx to len0x - and works fine

http://hektor.to.as.pl/dvdnew/AutoGordianKnot.0.92.beta.Update.exe

duwde
11th February 2004, 09:49
Hi Len0x

Why don't you insert a option (maybe a advanced or hidden option) to keep the output resolution in the same AR of the video or user defined AR ? I'll try to explain what I mean and why I think this is needed...

I'm using autogk 0.96b in some x-files episodes (4:3) and the output resolution is never exact 4:3, all I can get (using fixed resolution) are 576x448 (1,29), 640x496 (1,29), so I get some black bars in each side of the movie. I know those should be the optimal resolutions after cropping, after all, you know what you're doing, and that I can fix that in software players using zoom or even forcing a AR...

But as autogk is designed for beginners, and some beginners won't know how to fix that while playing... even worst, some hardware players won't allow that.. (I saw some people with this problem in this thread too)

It would be nice to have a option to allow us to get exact 4:3 resolutions, like 576x432 or 512x384 outputs, even if we need to discard some pixels somewhere in the cropping or anything. What do you think about it ?

Btw: Thanks for the second subtitle option and fixes, autogk is getting better everyday :)

((( atom )))
11th February 2004, 11:32
1) Autospliting cannot employ artificial intelligence to pick the best split point - in many cases it will split the file right in the middle of an action scene, or even worse, during a conversation. Whereas, if you split the file manually, you can usually move back and forth a few keyframes and pick a better point like a scene change or a lull in conversation, and still be within the 700mb mark. before i finally started keeping all my files on harddisks, i always used to split manually. one idea i had for automatic splitting, was to let the software check for any combination of a dark picture and low audio or even silence withing the range given by the max cd-size.
on the other hand i could imagine that to be quite difficult to program, since it might involve "playback" and analyse of audio, but i realyy don't know.. would be a very nice feature, though..

Taurus
11th February 2004, 12:22
0.96 have a very serious bug.

@CeeJay

I don't think it's a bug in AGKnot.
For me everything just work out fine.I can switch to any folder I like
without any errors. So I assume there's something wrong with your Setup.
Just uninstall everything related to AutoGK, give the 0.80 Version a
kick, update to 0.96 and you're system should be fine.
Maybe again there's another program fiddling around with your Windows.
So be careful not to blame AutoGk for things that might be on your side.
I'm doing a lot of testing right now and it seems to me everything is getting tighter and cleaner. The audio issue is solved, now let's go and have some fun.

Cheers
Taurus

CeeJay.dk
11th February 2004, 13:29
Originally posted by Taurus
@CeeJay

Just uninstall everything related to AutoGK, give the 0.80 Version a
kick, update to 0.96 and you're system should be fine.


I tried running the 0.96 installer again and oddly it worked fine this time.
Maybe it didn't update AutoGK correctly the first time - I really don't have a clue to what the problem was , it just works now and I'm grateful for that.

The same programs are running that were running before - I haven't even rebooted or anything.

One of thoose days ?

MinosK
11th February 2004, 14:08
Originally posted by ((( atom )))
before i finally started keeping all my files on harddisks, i always used to split manually. one idea i had for automatic splitting, was to let the software check for any combination of a dark picture and low audio or even silence withing the range given by the max cd-size.
on the other hand i could imagine that to be quite difficult to program, since it might involve "playback" and analyse of audio, but i realyy don't know.. would be a very nice feature, though..

I believe the best is to split the 1st video after ~15 second(or some keyframes) of the middle and the 2d before ~15 sec from the middle. right now, when a subtitle is at the end of first CD, you can see only a flash of it. When you put 2d CD the speech continues but without the subtitle.

len0x
11th February 2004, 19:22
Originally posted by nixo
Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.


Not sure that I follow that. Step by step, what are you doing? updating, installing running AutoGK? Exiting from where?

how it works (in latest versions):
- AutoGK started
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- window of autogk appears.
- everything runs normally.

CeeJay.dk
11th February 2004, 21:34
Originally posted by len0x
Not sure that I follow that. Step by step, what are you doing? updating, installing running AutoGK? Exiting from where?

how it works (in latest versions):
- AutoGK started
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- window of autogk appears.
- everything runs normally.

I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.

Had AutoGK installed.
Installed Xvid 1.0 RC1 to see if it's decoder really was better as I hear.
Got curious and wanted to see what would happen if AutoGK ran with Xvid 1.0 RC1.

Started AutoGK.
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- DivX is not installed
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
.. etc
CTRL + ALT + DELETE

quirky9
11th February 2004, 23:32
curiousity blink the cat.

len0x
11th February 2004, 23:50
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.


That's how a proper bug report should look like. How was I supposed to know that DivX wasn't installed either? Anyway, fixed.

nixo
11th February 2004, 23:55
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.

Had AutoGK installed.
Installed Xvid 1.0 RC1 to see if it's decoder really was better as I hear.
Got curious and wanted to see what would happen if AutoGK ran with Xvid 1.0 RC1.

Started AutoGK.
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- DivX is not installed
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
.. etc
CTRL + ALT + DELETE

That's pretty much what happened to me. I had AutoGk installed, I uninstalled Xvid and then ran the update. Only difference is, I didn't have any version of Xvid/DivX installed.

--
Nikolaj

duwde
12th February 2004, 00:17
Hi Len0x

Could you please take a look at my question (and sugestion) at page 72 ? (last message on this page). It's about cropping/resizing.

Thanks