Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[len0x]

Originally posted by mlmll
Why not SourceForge (if you intend to make AutoGK OSS of course...) ? Or even a subset of gordianknot.sourceforge.net/ ?


I do not intend to release source of AutoGK...
I'm gonna be moving site to my download location probably.

[DDogg]

Check with dvd2svcd. I noticed he offered to host some stuff on his WP. http://www.dvd2dvd.org/

"As part of a new deal with my employeer I can now offer free hosting.

I support ASP, PHP, Perl, ISAPI, MySQL, MS SQL and more.

Mail me if you're interested.

So far I'm hosting these sites:
DSPGuru (Besweet)
Doom9 Portuguese
Rockas DVD-RB site"

[len0x]

Originally posted by DDogg
Check with dvd2svcd. I noticed he offered to host some stuff on his WP. http://www.dvd2dvd.org/


Interesting, thanks. Luckily I managed to host my webstite on one of my download sites. I'll see how it'll go there...

[daldrum]

"tiny suggestion: cd split overlap! "

I definitely second the suggestion, to have option for the overlap would be even better, say overlap by 10, 20 and 30 seconds

[len0x]

Originally posted by daldrum
"tiny suggestion: cd split overlap! "

I definitely second the suggestion, to have option for the overlap would be even better, say overlap by 10, 20 and 30 seconds

Its not possible as split has to be done on a keyframe... Everybody has its own preference and it introduces more complexity when calculating target size and splitting subs. Its much easier for you to do manually from full file generated by AutoGK than for me to code it, so I'll leave this to the users.

[ukb007]

It's impossible for a program to decide exactly when to split logically in a place where there is a natural respite in a story-line. Programmed CD-splits may occur in the middle of a conversation. As len0x has said, CD-split should be attempted by the user only.

What I do is this. I target a file-size of 1500 MB, including mp3 sound (yeah, mp3; it's personal preference, guys, and I feel mp3 is enough) and OCR'd subs (a few hundred KBs). You can accommodate 790 MB per CD-R, writing in mode 2, with the help of m2cdmaker. So that leaves me 40 MB to play with, per CD, trying to find the natural cleavage in the flow of the story where I can insert a break. (1500 divided by 2 is 750; 790-750=40). That, too, cuts it down too fine sometimes, making me wish I had kept more to play with, which would require a smaller-than-1500 file-size, which is a tradeoff I am not always willing to accept.

Also, it must be remembered that breaks occur at keyframes; so, while splitting manually, don't be surprised if a break comes a few frames too soon or too late in relation to what you have envisaged in your mind.

Also don't be surprised if you've attemped a break at half the file-size, and see that the duration of video per CD isn't half and half. A nastier surprise is when you see that you've split by half the movie duration and the file-sizes differ by a hundred MBs. That's VBR in action for you.

Regards.

[Honza]

Is possible add some hodden otption?

I thing, that force smooth matrix should be good idea (for noisy and animated movies) or choice of several matrix).

For people which prefer watching movies using computer or computer with TV-Out should be interesting custom b-frames setting, or at least posiblity set 2 consecutive B-VOPs.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Honza
Is possible add some hodden otption?


no :) so far almost all the options are necessary for dealing with some type of source.

Originally posted by Honza
I thing, that force smooth matrix should be good idea (for noisy and animated movies) or choice of several matrix).


matrix is chosen automatically according to compressibility, so no need to set it (sharp matrix setting is useful only for short sources)

Originally posted by Honza
For people which prefer watching movies using computer or computer with TV-Out should be interesting custom b-frames setting, or at least posiblity set 2 consecutive B-VOPs.

out of scope - ppl that know what b-frames settings are and would like to modify them - should not use AutoGK.

[ydobon]

Hello, all.

I've just started to experiment with .ts sources and while looking for a way to cut the .ts file directly (without demuxing) I've found DVR-video ( http://www.haenlein-software.de/ ). The problem is that the output .ts generates the following error when I try to open it in AutoGK: 'bf5' is not a valid integer value.
PVAStrumento (a demux tool) can work with the .ts file, so I'm not sure where's the problem. Any idea?

Alternatively, does anybody know of a .ts cutting tool whose output can be opened in AutoGK?


Regards,

[magneez]

of course you are right about the splits...i meant simply overlap-splitting on keyframes (1-2 keyframe overlap with, say, 2 second minimum in case of adjacents), without any regard for scene and stuff like that...

this is for hardware players that take a few seconds to display picture after playback has begun (like Xoro, and sometimes Kiss)

anyway... just a timid suggestion, would not want to complicate this noble enterprise...

cheers

[magneez]

shit...how did that happen. didnt mean to open new thread. sorry.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
The problem is that the output .ts generates the following error when I try to open it in AutoGK: 'bf5' is not a valid integer value.


please post the output of DGTable on that source (its part of DGMPGDec package)

[ydobon]

Hi,

Originally posted by len0x
please post the output of DGTable on that source (its part of DGMPGDec package)

This is before cutting:
------------------------------------------------
DGTable 1.0.0 -- PAT/PMT Parser by Donald A. Graft
------------------------------------------------

Program 30057
PCR on PID 0xa4
Other on PID 0xc7
MPEG2 Video on PID 0xa4
MPEG2 Audio on PID 0x60
Other on PID 0xd0
Other on PID 0xde
Other on PID 0xd5
Other on PID 0x0

And this is from the fragment:
------------------------------------------------
DGTable 1.0.0 -- PAT/PMT Parser by Donald A. Graft
------------------------------------------------

Could not find PAT/PMT tables!

So I guess DVR-video must be doing something wrong...


Regards,

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
Could not find PAT/PMT tables!


Even though - the error you're getting is a bit weird. Try naming input file all lowercase (I found a bug preventing TS sources to be handled correctly if extention is uppercase) - it should say that tables are not found and you have to manually override PIDs in ".tstream" file.

[ydobon]

Hi, Len0x.

Originally posted by len0x
[...] Try naming input file all lowercase [...] it should say that tables are not found and you have to manually override PIDs in ".tstream" file.

The files were already lowercase, and I get that message with the original (uncutted) .ts

I've tried with another file and now a .ts that generates the error: 'a4' is not a valid integer value. has this DGTable output:
------------------------------------------------
DGTable 1.0.0 -- PAT/PMT Parser by Donald A. Graft
------------------------------------------------

Program 30057
PCR on PID 0xa4
Other on PID 0xc7
MPEG2 Video on PID 0xa4
MPEG2 Audio on PID 0x60
Other on PID 0xd0
Other on PID 0xde
Other on PID 0xd5
Other on PID 0x0

Does it gives you any clue?


Regards,

[len0x]

I know what the problem is now

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
I've tried with another file and now a .ts that generates the error: 'a4' is not a valid integer value.

try with version 1.53

[thop]

i cant download, says module isnt active :confused:

[len0x]

Originally posted by thop
i cant download, says module isnt active :confused:

this simply cannot be true :)
which url are you using?

[thop]

I tried all 3 mirrors:

http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=10
http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=8
http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=9

[len0x]

all three working for me - try deleting cookies in your browser

P.S. which browser ?

[thop]

Nope doesn't help :confused: I use IE6 SP2.

[len0x]

I don't know then. If you're are able to browse list of downloads then module is active already for you.

[thop]

http://www.gamecube-online.net/images/smilies/traurig.gif http://www.gamecube-online.net/images/smilies/traurig.gif http://www.gamecube-online.net/images/smilies/traurig.gif

[len0x]

You can try mozilla firefox just in case...

[thop]

I tried with lynx now, doesn't work either.

http://www.huno.net/cstm/gk2.png

http://www.huno.net/cstm/gk1.png

[len0x]

But you're trying to access "Your account" module that is not active indeed! why ?

[thop]

That's where the site forwards me when i press any of the download links.

[thop]

wget "http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=10"
--18:44:02-- http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=10
=> `index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=10'
Resolving len0x.btothec.com... 207.44.186.95
Connecting to len0x.btothec.com[207.44.186.95]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: index.php?name=Your_Account [following]
--18:44:03-- http://len0x.btothec.com/web3/index.php?name=Your_Account
=> `index.php?name=Your_Account'

[len0x]

try again. i cleared session table. you probably had registered on some other portal and that's what confusing mine...

[thop]

Nope still down't working. Don't think it's a session or cookie thing since wget f.e. doesn't know anything about cookies.

[len0x]

ok, leech protection is kicking in there - somehow your sessions are not registered on my site properly...
http://www.cpgnuke.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1189.html

P.S. just for the sake of it I cleaned up sessions again. Go to the main website and click through downloads listing again...

*Edit* may be you have cookies disabled - that's why session is not registered properly...

[thop]

Nope :( The only thing that changed is that the URL always shows http://www.autogk.net now and not the idividual pages.

Ok it was the cookies, i have "3rd Party" cookies disabled. Enabling it worked. I had them disabled for 3 years now or so though, and downloads always worked before on autogk.net.

[len0x]

Originally posted by thop

Ok it was the cookies, i have "3rd Party" cookies disabled. Enabling it worked. I had them disabled for 3 years now or so though, and downloads always worked before on autogk.net.

Well, my guess would be: when I moved website to another host I didn't move actual DNS name, so there is a redirection involved and cookies are coming not from the main domain (autogk.net) but from another one(len0x.btothec.com)

[MRisos]

Hi, excellent program works perfectly for me.. only 1 small feature that i'd like to have the videos i encode are not perfect around the edges the only thing i'd like to see would be a feature like "null transform" in virtualdubmod i like to crop my videos 20/20/20/20 around all 4 corners so its nice and sharp.. i know i can use the modified autocrop way, although would be nice to have a setting in the autogk app to do this.


Thanks for all your work on AutoGK.

:)

[sillKotscha]

for those of you who can't download from len0x website, try...

- AutoGK update v1.53 beta (http://fin.afterdawn.com/ohjelmat/video_ohjelmat/dvd_rippaajat/autoGK_beta_update.cfm)

[ydobon]

Hi, Len0x.
Originally posted by len0x
try with version 1.53
All the .ts files that gave the error message can be opened now with v1.53

Thanks a lot.

[ukb007]

Thanks for the link. I do so hope AGK downloaded from that site isn't in Dutch. Because that's Greek to me.:)

Regards.

[ydobon]

Hi, again.

Now that I can use my .ts files as AutoGK input, I've tried to make an AVI from a .ts with two audios. But AutoGK doesn't find the second audio. This is the log (copied from the log window):


[31/08/2004 16:40:32] AutoGK 1.53b
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Job started.
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Input file: tcm_mogambo_1.ts
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Output file: D:\tcm_mogambo.avi
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Audio: MPEG1 Audio on PID 0x60
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Audio2: MPEG1 Audio on PID 0x61
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Subtitles: none
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Codec: XviD
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Target size: 2240Mb
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 128Kbps
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Started encoding.
[31/08/2004 16:40:32] Demuxing and indexing.
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Processing file: D:\\tcm_mogambo_1.ts
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Processing file: D:\\tcm_mogambo_2.ts
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Processing file: D:\\tcm_mogambo_3.ts
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Processing file: D:\\tcm_mogambo_4.ts
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Source resolution: 528x576
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Found PAL source.
[31/08/2004 16:46:12] Analyzing source.
[31/08/2004 16:54:05] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[31/08/2004 16:54:05] Found 166720 frames
[31/08/2004 16:54:05] Enforcing mono audio encoding.
[31/08/2004 16:54:05] Encoding audio.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Second audio is not found.
*************************************
[31/08/2004 16:58:48] Job finished.

And this is the DGTable output of the .ts file:

Program 28526
PCR on PID 0xa4
MPEG2 Video on PID 0xa4
MPEG1 Audio on PID 0x60
MPEG1 Audio on PID 0x61
Teletext/Subtitling on PID 0x2c
Other on PID 0x12d
Other on PID 0x6e


The problem seems to be with DGIndex because only one .mpa file is demuxed from the .ts sources. DGIndex actually runs twice, but the second one the "Format" field remains blank and the "Timestamp" stays at "0:00:00".

Right now I'm using a workaround: I start the encode with one audio and abort it once I have the .mp3 file. Then I restart the encode with the second audio and put the first MP3 in the agk_tmp file while the new audio is being demuxed.

Correction: The workaround doesn't work :(

I hope this info helps to nail the problem.


Regards,


P.S. I can make available a fragment of the .ts file if needed

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon
P.S. I can make available a fragment of the .ts file if needed


That would be useful. At least we'll know who's fault is that.

[ydobon]

Hi,

I just sent you a PM with the URL to get a 20s fragment (10MB).


Thanks in advance.


P.S. Would it be possible to reverse the order of the source analysis and the audio transcoding steps? It would save some time when using this job-abort approach (which can be used to encode a third audio as I explained at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81641 )

[len0x]

Originally posted by ydobon

P.S. Would it be possible to reverse the order of the source analysis and the audio transcoding steps? It would save some time when using this job-abort approach (which can be used to encode a third audio as I explained at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81641 )


well, actually analysis step was put forward on purpose (you can wait until it finishes to see what kind of source you're dealing with and restart encoding with diff IVTC parameters for instance) - it would be really inconvenient to wait for audio encoding to be finished...

[ydobon]

Yep. That's certainly worth the wait. Forget the suggestion.

Regards,

[len0x]

Good news about second audio bug for TS - its just I forgot about second audio when I was fixing your previous bug, so now its fixed completely :)

*Edit* to get second audio working in current version use ".tstream" hidden file.

[ydobon]

Fantastic. Thanks a lot.

[bob0r]

I tried searching, but with 135 pages its not fun, so here is my question:

A commandline tool for autogk does that exist or can/will it ever be made?

What should it do? simple:

autogkcommandline.exe -dvd2xvid
autogkcommandline.exe -dvd2divx ... whatever


autogkcommandline.exe -dvd2xvid -dvddir D:\DVD -1cd -mp3 vbr192 E:\output.avi

Something like that, can be alot of options, but not to many, as therefor autogk exists :)

WHY commandline? Well there is this ftp daemon called: ioFTPD, it runs on windows and it allows you do to a lot of things.

site unrar, site rar, site vcdgear, site wget etc etc...

Having autogk commandline, would be awesome for remote encoding, no need for remote desktop, just use FTP!

[len0x]

Originally posted by bob0r
I tried searching, but with 135 pages its not fun

that why we have FAQ: Q 5.3

[bob0r]

Originally posted by len0x
that why we have FAQ: Q 5.3

5.3 Will you make a CLI version of AutoGK?
- no, never

Ah, CLI, command line interface, no wonder i could not find it, thanks.

Such a shame though, only makes life easier, any big reason for it? or pure a time issue? In that case, what amount of $ would change your mind?

[ydobon]

Hi,
Originally posted by bob0r
Such a shame though, only makes life easier, any big reason for it? or pure a time issue? In that case, what amount of $ would change your mind?
I was also strongly in favor of a CLI for AutoGK, but in one of those 135 pages Len0x said he didn't want to happen the same as DVDDecrypter (find the program in some rip-off software package). See http://www.dvddecrypter.com/ for a little bit more of info.

Knowing the huge amount of work something like AutoGK represents, I understand his point of view and, for what is worth, agree with it.

I can't complaint either as every suggestion/bug report other than a CLI has been implemented/fixed quite fast, as you can see a couple of posts before this :)


Regards,

[len0x]

I really want to get 1.55 stable out ASAP, so I can continue working on some major things like avisynth 2.5.5 support (that probably breaks some things), so if you have any bugs to report please shout now :)

P.S. for the moment we're only trying to solve some compatibility issues with ESS-based players...