Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[Darth Maul BR]

There are de PNG images.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKF4U_Icons.zip

If you like, i can make .ico files 32x32 pixels ... and you create an skinable system for icons with an .ini file reader.
Then all people can do skins for this. ;)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Access violation at adress 0040441C in module 'gkItFast4U.exe'. Read of address FFFFFFF9


Got that error with 0.45beta, after loading dvd dir from hdd...


0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 5814 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Nederlands / LBA: 5816 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Svenska / LBA: 5841 / PTS: 00:00:16.280 / Delay: 16000ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Norsk / LBA: 5843 / PTS: 00:00:16.280 / Delay: 16000ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Dansk / LBA: 5845 / PTS: 00:00:16.280 / Delay: 16000ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Suomi / LBA: 5848 / PTS: 00:00:16.280 / Delay: 16000ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Portugues / LBA: 5818 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Serbo-Croatian / LBA: 5820 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x28 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 5823 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x29 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 5825 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x2A - Subtitle - English / LBA: 2941 / PTS: 00:00:10.760 / Delay: 10480ms
0x2B - Subtitle - English / LBA: 2944 / PTS: 00:00:10.760 / Delay: 10480ms
0x2C - Subtitle - English / LBA: 5828 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x2D - Subtitle - English / LBA: 5831 / PTS: 00:00:16.240 / Delay: 15960ms
0x2E - Subtitle - English / LBA: 6114 / PTS: 00:00:16.720 / Delay: 16440ms
0x2F - Subtitle - English / LBA: 6117 / PTS: 00:00:16.720 / Delay: 16440ms
0x30 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 4576 / PTS: 00:00:14.000 / Delay: 13720ms
0x31 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 4577 / PTS: 00:00:14.000 / Delay: 13720ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 5ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 13 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 14 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Español / LBA: 15 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

Hadn't got that error with 0.40beta...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hadn't got that error with 0.40beta...

Oh, you have more than 16 subs streams!
Are those all real ?

[Wolfman]

I take it that this app should work straight out of the box?(with all the defaults) I was wondering if my problems could be down to the fact that I had a go at using GK previously and that requires the xvid codec to be setup. I was thinking of creating a new partition and setting this up afresh to see if this alleviates my problems.

Manono...no changing the I/L didnt work and just video alone showed exactly the same problems . Good point about upping the gain in the ac3 filter that cured the low sound level. I could send or put online the clip (50mb?) that is causing problems. or make it shorter.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Darth Maul BR
If you like, i can make .ico files 32x32 pixels ... and you create an skinable system for icons with an .ini file reader.
Then all people can do skins for this. ;)

I need them either in bmp or ico format, with preferably the same size as images now in GKIF4U.

*Edit* I might try setting wallpaper in the background as well...

[manono]

Wolfman-

Check your PM. I'd like to see the clip.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

ripped the subs with vsrip, not all english subs at the end are real...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
ripped the subs with vsrip, not all english subs at the end are real...

anyway I just restrited reading up to 16 of subs and audio languages....

[len0x]

Quite a few people offered to help designing logo for this new tool (which looks like gonna be rebranded into AutoGK soon) but so far I havn't seen any results. :(

I'm planning on releasing first stable version soon (at some point next week probably), so now I'm in need of actual logo :) Ideally logo should contain current one as a part of it and reflect the ease of encoding process (or just be sooo cool that nobody will care what it relfects :) ). I'm totally open to ideas, so contact me if you have something concrete done already, please.

[Wolfman]

:( I have been told by jhumin? that my player will not accept gmc qpel or bframes in xvid. ALso that the latest koepi build also does not work with this player (DVX6100). :mad:

[len0x]

Originally posted by Wolfman
:( I have been told by jhumin? that my player will not accept gmc qpel or bframes in xvid. ALso that the latest koepi build also does not work with this player (DVX6100). :mad:

so I was right about bframes...
that's sad, wait for DivX version then (I hope your player doesn't have any probs with bframes in divx, although I'll be basing it on 5.1.1 which is pretty new)

[Darth Maul BR]

Originally posted by len0x
I need them either in bmp or ico format, with preferably the same size as images now in GKIF4U.

*Edit* I might try setting wallpaper in the background as well...
There the .ICO files: :)
http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKF4U_ICO_Files.zip
Right click, Save as..

[Wolfman]

B frames not problematic in Divx, I have been told by the same source that under divx, gmc and b-frames are ok. In my own experience all my divx encodes play back correctly, done using dix 5.05 (I wont be upgrading to divx5.1, unless I am assured it will work.) Still will try every so -often..

[len0x]

Originally posted by Darth Maul BR
There the .ICO files: :)


I've put XP icons on the form. But buttons is special case though. I need two-states images for them (i.e. one normal and one disabled) which has two images put together horizontally so that width is twice of height...

[len0x]

btw I think thread officially became the biggest thread on the board (by number of replies). :cool:

[zerocoolnl]

So that's the reasen why you rote this program!!! hahaha

Zerocoolnl

[len0x]

Ok, I'm officially done with all the features and bugs for 0.5 release. Now the only things which are missing:

- new name (yep, still)
- new logo
- may be new icons

That's it. Give it a stress test please.

[Darth Maul BR]

What it happen with "About" icon?
:confused:

[yotsuya-san]

Hi Len0x, GHIF4U is making really big steps. I'm testing new 0.48 with my usual vob.
Did I miss something? Why does GKIF4U makes two "Analyzing source" steps, producing the same "interlace.log" file?

This is my log:
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Input dir: C:\ROCKY_HORROR_PICTURE_SHOW_4prove\VIDEO_TS
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Output file: C:\Documents and Settings\fede\Desktop\prova.avi
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Audio: English
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Subtitles: Italiano
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Target size: 175Mb
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 112Kbps
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Started encoding.
[24/11/2003 23.22.07] Demuxing and indexing.
[24/11/2003 23.22.16] Encoding audio.
[24/11/2003 23.23.56] Indexing subtitles.
[24/11/2003 23.24.03] Analyzing source.
[24/11/2003 23.24.56] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[24/11/2003 23.24.56] Analyzing source.
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Found 4771 frames
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Audio size: 2392699
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Overhead: 190848
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Video Size: 180917253
[24/11/2003 23.25.47] Running compressibility test.

etc..

There's another cosmetic thing: on my PC (Windows 2000, Matrox G400 etc...) the arrows in log windows always disappear: I have to click on them (well, they are invisible, so exactly I have to click where I think they should be :D :rolleyes: )to make them re-appear.

Anyway, it's great, one of the best tool around (if only I had a more powerful pc...)

Bye, Yotsuya.

[len0x]

@Darth Maul BR

Good that you mentioned it. 32x32 was too big size for it. So i resized it but couldn't get rid of small artifacts around question mark, so it looked kidna ugly...

@yotsuya-san

About analyzing step - if source is detected as interlaced GKIF4U tries to swap field order and see if its still interlaced after that. Moreover the order is chosen so that interlacing percent is minimal. This fixes some of the wrongly mastered PAL DVDs. May be I should make log messages more clear about that.

About log window - yes, I have the same here, but didn't have a chance to see what's going on. But I will.

[Darth Maul BR]

Originally posted by len0x
@Darth Maul BR

Good that you mentioned it. 32x32 was too big size for it. So i resized it but couldn't get rid of small artifacts around question mark, so it looked kidna ugly...


Which the correct size? 24x24? and others?
I can make it for you. :)

[wertherman]

Originally posted by len0x
btw I think thread officially became the biggest thread on the board (by number of replies). :cool:

What about media player classic's with more than 1231 replies.... You are still quite a way off that (especially considering it's a moving target).

[Darth Maul BR]

I make this icons ... :)

Open Folder XP Style (16x16)
2 About icons (24x24) choice one you like
Start - cold and hot (16x16)
Abort - cold and hot (16x16)

http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKF4U_Icons2.zip

Another sugestion for this great App is possibility to translate, i can make an Portuguese Brasil translation for it. :D

[manono]

Hi-

What about media player classic's with more than 1231 replies....

Yes, you're right, and I know of a couple of more with more replies or with more views. But the Media Player Classic thread is 16 months old, and this one is still less than a month old. Maybe this one is the fastest growing thread. :)

Give this one a couple of more months and then we'll see.

[Christos]

Wait till the first official release is out... Then you 'll see how big this thread will get... ;)
(I guess mainlly with "Thank you len0x" replies) :)

BTW... !!!THANK YOU len0x!!! :p

[wertert]

small sizing problem. Let me start by staying that I don't intend to burn any of my movies onto CD so this is really just an observation. The last two film rips I've completed have gone slightly over the requested number of CDs.

The Right Stuff ( requested 3 CD ) ( used version 4.5 )

25/11/2003 05:28 2,205,380,608 the_right_stuff.avi
25/11/2003 05:30 733,829,120 the_right_stuff.CD1.avi
25/11/2003 05:33 731,150,336 the_right_stuff.CD2.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 733,917,184 the_right_stuff.CD3.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 3,368,960 the_right_stuff.CD4.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 16,215 the_right_stuff_gk.log

xmen 2 ( requested 2CD ) ( used version 4.0 )
went to 2 full disks but a small 3/4Mb cd3.avi file. I've deleted the CD files. I have the logs if you want them.

Doesn't really matter as you only miss out the end of the credits. Maybe you've solved the 'credit-encoding' issue after all !

wertert

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertherman
What about media player classic's with more than 1231 replies.... You are still quite a way off that (especially considering it's a moving target).

Hm... that's a challenge :) May be I should keep posting versions in this thread (I was planning to make an anouncement in the main GK forum about release), so that will see how far we can go :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert

The Right Stuff ( requested 3 CD ) ( used version 4.5 )
25/11/2003 05:28 2,205,380,608 the_right_stuff.avi
25/11/2003 05:30 733,829,120 the_right_stuff.CD1.avi
25/11/2003 05:33 731,150,336 the_right_stuff.CD2.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 733,917,184 the_right_stuff.CD3.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 3,368,960 the_right_stuff.CD4.avi
25/11/2003 05:36 16,215 the_right_stuff_gk.log


this is all because second CD was slightly undersized. I know what I can do though - change split point to 701Mb instead (but only if using 3CDs)...

Originally posted by wertert

xmen 2 ( requested 2CD ) ( used version 4.0 )
went to 2 full disks but a small 3/4Mb cd3.avi file. I've deleted the CD files. I have the logs if you want them.


version 0.40 did have some other issues. For two CDs movies this should not happen anymore (but you can test it with current version).

[len0x]

Originally posted by Darth Maul BR
I make this icons ... :)


Thanks. Open folder icon is very cool after I extracted one image out of it. For buttons I actually need only bmp (which is not a problem for me to convert), but I still have problem with help icon - do you see the black shadow around it? This shadow is kinda cut on the right and bottom, so that it looks incomplete. If you could remove the shadow or make it a bit bigger (a couple of pixels) so that the whole thing is completed that would be much better. About "Start" and "Abort" buttons. I thought you were gonna make cold and hot images based on those from XP theme you originaly gave me, not the ones that I have now...

Originally posted by Darth Maul BR

Another sugestion for this great App is possibility to translate, i can make an Portuguese Brasil translation for it. :D

I'd rather you guys did translation for the tutorial (after 0.5 release). The interface itself is really simple anyway...

[bkam]

Originally posted by len0x
I'd rather you guys did translation for the tutorial (after 0.45 release). The interface itself is really simple anyway... I could do Spanish with the help of my friend. Would this be useful?

[len0x]

Originally posted by bkam
I could do Spanish with the help of my friend. Would this be useful?

I guess so. But wait until 0.5 release...

[XenoDaSouljah]

i am just wondering i tested 0.48 with independence day. Now i know this movie is interlaced (yuck) (pal). So what deinterlace filter will this program use then ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
i am just wondering i tested 0.48 with idependec day. Now i know this movie is interlaced (yuck) (pal). So what deinterlace filter will this program use then ?

the best one :) KernelDeInt()
I wonder which percentage of interlacing for that movie was detected?
I haven't seen any recent hollywood movie in interlaced form for a while...

[XenoDaSouljah]

Originally posted by len0x
the best one :) KernelDeInt()
I wonder which percentage of interlacing for that movie was detected?
I haven't seen any recent hollywood movie in interlaced form for a while...

How can i find that out for you ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
How can i find that out for you ?

look at the log file (it's created after job finished, but you can always abort the job after analysis is done...)

[XenoDaSouljah]

Originally posted by len0x
look at the log file (it's created after job finished, but you can always abort the job after analysis is done...)

[11/24/2003 1:31:23 AM] Analyzing source.
[11/24/2003 1:41:34 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 44.66
[11/24/2003 1:41:34 AM] Source is considered to be interlaced.

:)

Yep, it looks really ugly when i play it back in Powerdvd, that was the whole reason for me to rip it to xvid/ac3. :). Your program did an excelent job at it ;)

[len0x]

then it's definitely interlaced :)

[XenoDaSouljah]

There is a small typo in the third party tools screen:GordianKnotItFast4U uses the following utilities for backgroung

:)

[Darth Maul BR]

- Initial icons than i have sugest previously for Start ans Abort;
- About icon no shadow (24x24).

http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKF4U_Icons3.zip

I wait to have helped.
:)

[Micro]

Hi len0x,

it seems, that you are using only one consecutive B-frame setting
in XviD configuration, is there any particular reason for this ?

Isn't it better to use currently "classic" B-frame control settings
2-150-75-0 or this automatically depends on compressibility test result ?

Thanks for great tool !

Micro

[len0x]

Originally posted by Micro
Hi len0x,

it seems, that you are using only one consecutive B-frame setting
in XviD configuration, is there any particular reason for this ?


it's a judgment call. I don't use classic settings indeed, but there are so many "classic" settings, that leaving this choice to you would make my life pretty difficult as everyone would want their own settings to be used...

As for 2 bframes - most of hardware cannot play it and I don't see much improvement in comp test results either.

[nwpsys]

Firstly, a big thanks to len0x for such a great tool, and manono for such a great tutorial. I am one of the target users, who doesn't know ( and really doesn't want to know ) about under-the-hood encoding, and just needs a simple tool to help with the job. And what a splendid job it does too :)

I am not sure if adding to this thread is appropriate so apologies if I am bloating things with my question.

Reading through the tutorial, I have a similar task I am trying to backup a series of 15 minute cartoons from a DVD. Using maximum quality created an AVI bigger than the source, so I then tried setting 50MB for a size ( so I could get all the episodes on a CD), but the quality was a bit poor with stereo VBR 128 sound.

The tutorial mentions setting 100MB as a sensible size and also setting a fixed width resolution at 512.

Just wondering how these values were determined ? Was it just experience, or are there certain resolution values that work best ??

I know that in the log I can look at the compressability percentage, but does this take into account any resolution setting ?

Thanks for any help.

nwpsys

[len0x]

Originally posted by nwpsys

The tutorial mentions setting 100MB as a sensible size and also setting a fixed width resolution at 512.

Just wondering how these values were determined ? Was it just experience, or are there certain resolution values that work best ??


It's just experience. I think what manono meant was that going below 512 makes picture too small and usually you'd want either fix the resolution or increase target size.

Originally posted by nwpsys

I know that in the log I can look at the compressability percentage, but does this take into account any resolution setting ?


Yes, it does. You get compressibility for a chosen resolution (well first value after compessibility test is value for width of 640, but all the rest will be for resolution it'll be using). The final value which you should pay attention to is quality after first pass as it is the final quality you will get for the resolution it (or you if you fixed that) chose to encode with.

[nwpsys]

:thanks: len0x. A little bit clearer in my head now, but I think some experimenting is in order, but I will have to do something about my Pentium III 733mnhz first :o

nwpsys

[manono]

Hi nwpsys-

You're right. My explanation there was incomplete. It might have been useful if I had mentioned that the cartoons averaged about 7 minutes each. There were 14 of them, so 7 per CD and 2 CDs total and they looked fine. In your case, you might want to put 4 per CD at 175 MB each, or 3 per CD at 233 MB each, depending on how well they compress. A lot of the Bugs Bunny cartoons were old and grainy/noisy and didn't compress all that well. With experience you'll be able to have a look at the source material to get a rough idea of how they'll compress at a given resolution, and you'll then use the Compression Test results to verify that.

[wertherman]

An option to have a message box pop up when it's finished encoding would be great... Would help to avoid those scary periods of time when my computer isn't encoding anything :-)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Darth Maul BR

- Initial icons than i have sugest previously for Start ans Abort;


I can't still use them. What I need is a bmp (not ico) file say 24x48 pixels, where first 24x24 is a hot normal image, and the other is totally grey image with just the structure of the picture. You know what I'm talking about?
help icon looks better now though...

[darkonejr]

len0x:

I think an option to disable splitting (or have it not split when specifying a custom size) would be useful...


Julian

[XenoDaSouljah]

Originally posted by darkonejr
len0x:

I think an option to disable splitting (or have it not split when specifying a custom size) would be useful...


Julian

I am not sure but i think someone mentioned it before. I would like to see this aswell. I dont like switching cd's in a movie, and i store my backups on harddrive anyway.

[len0x]

Originally posted by darkonejr
or have it not split when specifying a custom size would be useful...


this can be arranged and actually makes sense since I don't know what CD size was suppose to be anyway...