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len0x
10th September 2004, 16:16
Originally posted by QNX
i have a million dollars question :D
does the AGK supports DTS streams in DVD?

No. Now gimme me my million :D

len0x
10th September 2004, 16:17
Originally posted by assen79
[10.09.2004 17:05:32] Demuxing and indexing.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "C:\DVD\agk_tmp\Top Dog.d2v". The system cannot find the file specified
*************************************
[10.09.2004 17:05:33] Job finished.

I'm looking into this - I buggered it up somehow :(

assen79
10th September 2004, 16:18
Athlon 1400+
256 MB DDR Ram
Mainboard AS Rock
WIN XP PRO SP2
Could the Problem be the Service Pack 2?

QNX
10th September 2004, 16:24
Originally posted by len0x
No. Now gimme me my million :D
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ok... the second question for 2 millions

is it posible to add just demux option and join DTS sound to encoded avi? cause i can't get sound from the DVD :(

or tell me how to extract DTS sound via other programm :)

QNX
10th September 2004, 16:26
and another question.. i have 404 error on all mirrors for 1.55.. is it uploaded already or not? :rolleyes:

len0x
10th September 2004, 16:29
Originally posted by QNX
and another question.. i have 404 error on all mirrors for 1.55.. is it uploaded already or not? :rolleyes:

It was removed and replaced with 1.56 that is working now :)

len0x
10th September 2004, 16:32
Originally posted by assen79
[10.09.2004 17:05:32] Demuxing and indexing.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "C:\DVD\agk_tmp\Top Dog.d2v". The system cannot find the file specified
*************************************
[10.09.2004 17:05:33] Job finished.

To those who didn't realize - version 1.56 solves this problem. 1.55 won't work at all...

len0x
10th September 2004, 16:40
Originally posted by QNX
is it posible to add just demux option and join DTS sound to encoded avi? cause i can't get sound from the DVD :(


Actually DTS transcoding is possible to implement (like in normal GK), but not muxing (as this will requite AVIMUX instread of VDubMod). But the reason it's not implemented is: it will only work if you have WinDVD installed.

Originally posted by QNX
or tell me how to extract DTS sound via other programm :)

DGIndex can demux it with no problems the same way as AC3.

QNX
10th September 2004, 16:43
much 10x :D

Hesse
10th September 2004, 17:03
Originally posted by len0x
Actually DTS transcoding is possible to implement (like in normal GK), but not muxing (as this will requite AVIMUX instread of VDubMod). But the reason it's not implemented is: it will only work if you have WinDVD installed.


len0x,
I'm able to mux DTS with VDubMod into the MKV container fine. I guess you're saying you need AVIMUX to use AVI and DTS audio?

Jesse

len0x
10th September 2004, 17:06
Originally posted by Hesse
I'm able to mux DTS with VDubMod into the MKV container fine. I guess you're saying you need AVIMUX to use AVI and DTS audio?


yes, AutoGK doesn't support MKV.

QNX
10th September 2004, 18:48
well... in fact i need to make from this DTS - mp3 and mux it with avi :D

DTS is playing fine, almost, with ac3 filter... i have sound first 30 mins and than - silence :D

edited

azidts -core -input 1.dts -output 1.wav :D

vio_man
11th September 2004, 00:49
I don't understand why do we have to install a stable release and then the beta release to use the beta. Why don't you build a beta package without the need to install the stable one first?

paul_ahb
11th September 2004, 06:05
Originally posted by len0x
So analysis step is failing. I assume you're using avisynth 2.5.5, right? (that is supplied with 1.54/1.55). You can get latest VdubMod here:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/virtualdubmod/VirtualDubMod_1_5_10_1_All_inclusive.zip?download
plus update: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/virtualdubmod/VirtualDubMod_1_5_10_1_b2439.zip?download

P.S. Can I get hold of sample TS file from you somehow?

*EDIT* Does exclamation mark in the path make any difference for VDubMod I wonder...

The TS file is over 3GB, I don't know how to practically get it to you.

I don't beleive that the ! in the path could be causing the problem because I have successfully encoded an mpg file in the same directory as the ts file.


I upgraded to AGK1.56 and tested on the ts file with the same result.

I download the versions of VDubMod and replaced the folder in the AGK folder. Testing the TS file again with the new versions resulted in the same problem:

VirtualDub Error
Avisynth read error:
Avisynth: caught an access violation at 0x01373919,
attempting to read from 0f2cdc900
...

[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Job started.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Input file: JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).ts
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Output file: U:\!TVEdits\compression tests\JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).avi
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Audio: MPEG1 Audio on PID 0xc0
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Target quality: 50%
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Started encoding.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/09/2004 2:53:21 PM] Processing file: U:\!TVEdits\compression
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source resolution: 704x576
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Found PAL source.
[11/09/2004 2:53:24 PM] Analyzing source.


I didn't mention before that if I click ok to the error then the encoding seems to continue. I have not previously let it complete, I will let this happen now and let you know the result if this would be helpfull.

Paul

paul_ahb
11th September 2004, 06:22
Originally posted by paul_ahb

I didn't mention before that if I click ok to the error then the encoding seems to continue. I have not previously let it complete, I will let this happen now and let you know the result if this would be helpfull.


At this point:
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] AutoGK 1.56b
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Job started.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Input file: JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).ts
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Output file: U:\!TVEdits\compression tests\JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).avi
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Audio: MPEG1 Audio on PID 0xc0
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Target quality: 50%
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Started encoding.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/09/2004 2:53:21 PM] Processing file: U:\!TVEdits\compression
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source resolution: 704x576
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Found PAL source.
[11/09/2004 2:53:24 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Found 97122 frames
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/09/2004 3:19:18 PM] Running single pass encoding.

I received another error:
VirtualDub Error
Avisynth open failure:
Evaluate: Unrecognised exception!
(U:\!TVEdits\compression tests\agk_tmp\JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital)_movie.avs, line 21)

Clicking ok completed the job:
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] AutoGK 1.56b
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Job started.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Input file: JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).ts
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Output file: U:\!TVEdits\compression tests\JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital).avi
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Audio: MPEG1 Audio on PID 0xc0
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Subtitles: none
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Codec: XviD
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Target quality: 50%
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Started encoding.
[11/09/2004 2:49:16 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/09/2004 2:53:21 PM] Processing file: U:\!TVEdits\compression
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Source resolution: 704x576
[11/09/2004 2:53:23 PM] Found PAL source.
[11/09/2004 2:53:24 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Found 97122 frames
[11/09/2004 3:02:36 PM] Encoding audio.
[11/09/2004 3:19:18 PM] Running single pass encoding.
[11/09/2004 3:22:38 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 19 seconds
[11/09/2004 3:22:38 PM] Speed was: 487.11 fps.
[11/09/2004 3:22:38 PM] Job finished.

No AVI was produced though.

Paul

lazyn00b
11th September 2004, 06:39
Hi, I am using AutoGK 1.56 beta to convert 1080i and 720p HDTV Transport Streams (.tp) to Xvid with AC3, with the width of the video resized to 720 pixels. The 1080i encodes are coming out very well with compressability in a normal range (40-50%) and with the desired file size of about 17 MB per minute, but the 720p encodes are looking very bad at similar file size with compressability half of 1080i! Then I noticed that the converted 1080i was playing at ~29.970 fps, while the 720p conversions were playing at ~59.940. Yes, I know that this is the native framerate of many 720p sources, but isn't it normal when encoding such sources to Xvid/Divx to decimate every other frame? I wonder if such a high framerate is the cause of the bad compressability. Thanks for any suggestions,

lazyn00b

submax
11th September 2004, 10:29
I am that is not advanced "a normal" user like those of this forum but i would appeal that autogk has indication in the GUI of the BITRATE for the quality's movie

excuse for my english, i am a italian user

manono
11th September 2004, 11:20
Hi submax, and welcome to the forum-

You can get the bitrate for the finished movie from GSpot. (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/gspot221.exe) I don't know that there's any way to tell the bitrate in advance, for a 1-pass quality encode.

len0x
11th September 2004, 11:50
Originally posted by vio_man
I don't understand why do we have to install a stable release and then the beta release to use the beta. Why don't you build a beta package without the need to install the stable one first?

Coz ppl would scream if they have to download more that 6Mb every time I release new beta. Update right after stable release is supposed to be very small usually - only now many things changed, but stable version coming soon anyway.

len0x
11th September 2004, 11:53
I received another error:
VirtualDub Error
Avisynth open failure:
Evaluate: Unrecognised exception!
(U:\!TVEdits\compression tests\agk_tmp\JAG (2004-09-07 12-00 SCT Digital)_movie.avs, line 21)


what is on that line?

ydobon
11th September 2004, 11:54
Hello, all.

Posted by len0x
- maximum width setting can now be larger than source width

Thanks for that. I've already re-encoded two movies and the extra width (I got a width higher than the source but lower than my 768px max) gives excellent results.
Also posted by len0x
- DVD/File mode setting is now persistent across several runs of AutoGK

Very nice. If I dare to ask (I'll keep doing it until Len0x tells me to shut up :)) it would also be user-friendly if the file open dialog remembered the selected file type:

- MPEG2 Video files(*.vob,*.m2v,*.mpeg,*.mpg)
- Transport Streams(*.ts,*.tp,*.trp,*.m2t)

or if simply both types were merged under a "Supported input formats" type.


Concerning .ts multifile inputs, I usually get a set of files like this one:

  Brubaker.ts
  Brubaker.ts.001
  Brubaker.ts.002
  Brubaker.ts.003

and I have to rename them for AutoGK like this:

  Brubaker_1.ts
  Brubaker_2.ts
  Brubaker_3.ts
  Brubaker_4.ts


I don't know if that's a job for AutoGK or DGIndex, but it would save the additional renaming step if this other sequence naming pattern was recognized.

And finally, about the recent request about the bitrate, I think it would mostly confuse the novice user AutoGK targets. And if you don't mind using an extra program, PVAStrumento tells you the bitrate of .vob, .mpg and .ts files.


Regards,

len0x
11th September 2004, 12:13
Originally posted by lazyn00b
Yes, I know that this is the native framerate of many 720p sources, but isn't it normal when encoding such sources to Xvid/Divx to decimate every other frame? I wonder if such a high framerate is the cause of the bad compressability.

It certainly is. Starting with version 1.54 AutoGK is not longer automatically bringing fps down by SelectEven() like it used to. It check for dupes and should be able to extract 24fps sources from it. I don't have any examples where 30fps source should be used (i.e. every second frame is a dupe), so I can't implement this yet. There are quite a few "real" 60fps sources without dupes that will look really jerky with 30fps... So I don't know what is the material you're dealing with, may be you can supply me with a small sample.

P.S. There is a smart way to bring down fps for large number of cases via FDecimate(), so I'll do some tests and may be add this as a hidden option.

len0x
11th September 2004, 12:20
Originally posted by ydobon
or if simply both types were merged under a "Supported input formats" type.


only this option is available to me...

Originally posted by ydobon
I don't know if that's a job for AutoGK or DGIndex, but it would save the additional renaming step if this other sequence naming pattern was recognized.


DGIndex only recognizes one pattern for automatic pick up of files...

SonGokuDBZ
11th September 2004, 13:23
first of all thanks for AutoGK, it gets better with every new release!

I've just encoded some animes and after that I played a little bit with the new GK. Would it be possible to add the avisynth dup plugin to the .avs script if there is a .cartoon file?

I get's much better rips with this plungin in my scripts!

Thanks

paul_ahb
11th September 2004, 14:22
Originally posted by len0x
what is on that line?

LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

ydobon
11th September 2004, 14:43
Hi, again.
Originally posted by len0x
DGIndex only recognizes one pattern for automatic pick up of files...
In that case allow me to offer a silly workaround. I just did a DOS batch file, tsrename.bat that does the job:

ren *.ts.008 *_9.temp
ren *.ts.007 *_8.temp
ren *.ts.006 *_7.temp
ren *.ts.005 *_6.temp
ren *.ts.004 *_5.temp
ren *.ts.003 *_4.temp
ren *.ts.002 *_3.temp
ren *.ts.001 *_2.temp
ren *.ts     *_1.temp
ren *.temp   *.ts

I'm sure it must have some secondary effect I'm not aware of. But I use it in a directory containing only the files I want to rename and it works.


Hope it helps someone :)

len0x
11th September 2004, 15:58
Originally posted by SonGokuDBZ
avisynth dup plugin to the .avs

what is this?

SonGokuDBZ
11th September 2004, 17:23
Dup Filter for Avisynth:
"This is intended for use in clips that have a significant number of duplicate content frames, but which differ due to noise. Typically anime has many such duplicates. By replacing noisy duplicates with exact duplicates, a bitrate reduction can be achieved."

I've tried it and it worked fine.
don't know if it is useful in general, but i think so.

you could visit http://www.neuron2.net/dup/dupnew.html for more information!

len0x
11th September 2004, 19:51
Originally posted by ydobon
In that case allow me to offer a silly workaround. I just did a DOS batch file, tsrename.bat that does the job:


Very useful, I'll put this into FAQ I think.

len0x
11th September 2004, 19:57
Originally posted by SonGokuDBZ
Dup Filter for Avisynth:


Well, you always can use AutoGK Tweaker to modify avs - adding random filters is out of scope at the moment (you want dup, others different filters, so it will never end).

len0x
12th September 2004, 16:39
I was reading the code while implementing FDecimate() support and found several inconsistencies in handling of different FPS, so very probably I fixed quite a few bugs that nobody noticed recently :) Downside may be that I might have introduced new ones - so please stress test it!

len0x
12th September 2004, 16:52
Originally posted by lazyn00b
while the 720p conversions were playing at ~59.940.

Now you can use .fps hidden file and enforce 29.970fps.

therealjoeblow
12th September 2004, 22:52
Originally posted by len0x
Now you can use .fps hidden file and enforce 29.970fps.

Hidden Options tool v-0.8 updated and sent to len0x today. Sorry for the delay - whole new set of responsibilities in RL has left me with precious little free time!

Once he's done testing it, He'll post it on the AutoGK download site (I'm assuming).

Changelog follows:

--------------------------
V-0.8 (September 12, 2004)
--------------------------

- Added 'Force Deinterlacing' when source was detected as hybrid (merged this option with 'Force Normal IVTC', since you can only use one or the other, not both

- Added Transport Stream Video and Audio PID specifiers.

- Added Audio ID speficier for File Mode when stream info wasn't processed.

- Added 'Force Sharp MPEG Matrix' override

- Added 'HDTV Frame Rate Reduction' (Reduces FPS for 60/50fps HDTV progressive sources using FDecimate filter. Analysis step will not be run if this option is used).

- Added tooltips for help on most options - hover over the option titles and input boxes or controls where appropriate.

***NOTE***: I did NOT add support for the following 3 options, because they need to reside in the AutoGK home directory, and since I can't be 100% sure that this wasn't modified by the user during install, you'll have to create them yourselves (they are probably not very frequently used anyway):

-.kerneldeint - Tune KernelDeInt filter threshold. This file has to be in AutoGK home dir unlike all others!

-.itu - for ITU resize method (same option as in full Gordian Knot). This file has to be in AutoGK home dir unlike all others!

-.debug - display VCF scripts for VDubMod in the logs. This file has to be in AutoGK home dir unlike all others!

lazyn00b
13th September 2004, 05:49
Originally posted by len0x
Now you can use .fps hidden file and enforce 29.970fps.

Thank you for this feature. I indeed checked the original source, stepping frame by frame, and saw that it was true 59.940 material, yet I would prefer to halve the framerate anyway, accepting the risk of jerkiness to improve quality on each frame. Thanks again!

lazyn00b

len0x
13th September 2004, 10:54
Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Once he's done testing it, He'll post it on the AutoGK download site (I'm assuming).


its up on the website

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
***NOTE***: I did NOT add support for the following 3 options, because they need to reside in the AutoGK home directory,

Well, the tool is launched for AutoGK only if it resides in the same dir, so you can just create those option in the same dir as the tool itself.

therealjoeblow
14th September 2004, 01:38
Originally posted by len0x
Well, the tool is launched for AutoGK only if it resides in the same dir, so you can just create those option in the same dir as the tool itself.

Yes, I thought of that last night before bed. I can use the vb "App.Path" property to get the path that the .exe is running in, and store the files there, assuming that it's been properly copied to the AutoGK directory. I'll add the missing 3 options later tonight and send you v-0.9.

ydobon
14th September 2004, 10:07
Hello, Len0x.
Originally posted by len0x (RE: tsrename.bat)
Very useful, I'll put this into FAQ I think.
I've been told by PM that it doesn't work very well if your filenames use "_". Mine don't so it works for me :P

I have a question/request: Is there any way of selecting the original mp2 audio (my .ts sources all come with MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio) instead of transcoding it to mp3?

My choice would be to have the original mp2 audio if it's not more than 128 kbps and transcode it if its bitrate is higher (same choice for second audio).

Does AutoGK do anything similar (maybe auto audio with >700MB AVIs)? Would it be possible to do it if not?


Regards,

len0x
14th September 2004, 10:32
Originally posted by ydobon
My choice would be to have the original mp2 audio if it's not more than 128 kbps and transcode it if its bitrate is higher (same choice for second audio).


There is no way for me to get what kind of audio and bitrate is used inside *.mpa file. Also muxing mp2 is not something common and probably break standalone compatibility.

ydobon
14th September 2004, 12:28
Hi, again.
Originally posted by len0x
There is no way for me to get what kind of audio and bitrate is used inside *.mpa file. Also muxing mp2 is not something common and probably break standalone compatibility.
Just playing around with the idea: AutoGK is made with Delphi, isn't it? I wrote code in Delphi to determine the time length of a media file (anything that can be opened with the TMediaPlayer component, *.mpa in particular). Would that and the filesize be enough to determine/approximate the bitrate?

About the standalone compatibility, I can try my next encode with mp2 and a Kiss DP-1000 if you want.

Now that I think about it, a hidden option to choose the .mpa file instead of the .mp3 one if the .mpa is smaller in size would also serve my purpose. :)


Regards,

len0x
14th September 2004, 15:22
Originally posted by ydobon
Now that I think about it, a hidden option to choose the .mpa file instead of the .mp3 one if the .mpa is smaller in size would also serve my purpose. :)


i'll think about it after stable release (although i have to have more than just user wishing for that).

MindlessOath
14th September 2004, 19:00
Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Yes, I thought of that last night before bed. I can use the vb "App.Path" property to get the path that the .exe is running in, and store the files there, assuming that it's been properly copied to the AutoGK directory. I'll add the missing 3 options later tonight and send you v-0.9.

i was thinking that autoGK makes a regkey when it installs and that key keeps the location to where the user most likly installed the application. (i belive it does cause everytime i update it finds it in the new upgrade installer by default meaning it uses a reg key)

so in your VB application, instead of using app.path use some windows API to check the registry in the correct location (which btw u will have to ask len0x or find it yourself (shouldnt be hard) and create the file or files in that location or in a subfolder.

im sure that will make it much less prone to problems rather than using app.path cause some people MAY not run it from the autoGK directory, i myself ran it from the rar file, and that just wont work very well.... tho if i wanted to use the shortcut cntr F9 or whatever it was, then indeed it would have to be in the autoGK folder

if ya need help with the registry thing, im sure u can find an example somewhere on the net www.planetsourcecode.com is just one source if u must have an example.

ydobon
14th September 2004, 21:33
Hi,
Originally posted by len0x
i'll think about it after stable release (although i have to have more than just user wishing for that).
Don't lose any time about it. I just asked because in the audio encoding forum I've been told to keep the mp2 if possible, instead of transcoding it to mp3, whatever the bitrate.

As I saw that the "Audio: Auto" option keeps the original AC3 when the AVI is >700MB, I though the "natural" behaviour would be to keep the original audio track of the .ts files when possible/reasonable.

I've found some audio tracks with low bitrates that when transcoded to mp3 have a metallic sound that I don't really like. But as one of the byproducts of AutoGK are the .mpa tracks, I'll just check the audio and swap the tracks if necessary. It's just an aditional run through VDubMod (which I'm already doing to add the language tags).


Regards,

CeeJay.dk
14th September 2004, 23:57
While googling I stumbled over this thread :
http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php?topic=60462&forum=21

It points out that some hardware players do not support the .sub + .idx format of external subtitles - They need .srt subtitles instead.

If this is true then I think AutoGK needs to be able to outout .srt subtitles.

Do you agree ?

ydobon
15th September 2004, 08:17
Hello there,
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
[...] If this is true then I think AutoGK needs to be able to outout .srt subtitles.[...]
To convert binary (sub/idx) subtitles to text (srt) subtitles you have to do OCR. As far as I know this needs human intervention, so it's not possible to automatize this step into the process.

That doesn't mean that you can't have srt subtitles. When I want text subtitles I open the sub/idx with SubRip, and OCR the subtitles. A quick review with the dictionary of a word processor and voilá!


Regards,

bob0r
15th September 2004, 17:46
I am trying to encode a DVDr with DTS audio only, autogk will not allow me to add a job, i could find nothing of DTS in the FAQ.
When i select no audio track it does allow me to encode ( :o )
Anything i can do about this?

len0x
15th September 2004, 17:49
Originally posted by bob0r
Anything i can do about this?

Actually no. DTS cannot be trancoded or muxed without external tools. I should put this into FAQ indeed.

bob0r
15th September 2004, 18:03
Originally posted by len0x
Actually no. DTS cannot be trancoded or muxed without external tools. I should put this into FAQ indeed.

Hmm, isn't autoGK using all kind of "3rd party tools"?
But i guess a DTS tool cant work with autogk.

You got any tips for me? how i maybe can encode this dvdr afterall?

This is a chinese movie with jet li, chinese DTS audio only.
english subs and chinese subs (wide/letterbox).

autogk says: Chinese DTS 6ch

If i encode video with autogk, and make my own DTS > vbr mp3 audio file, you think it would be in sync when i use nandub? If not, time to buy a DTS player :sly:

len0x
15th September 2004, 18:12
Originally posted by bob0r
Hmm, isn't autoGK using all kind of "3rd party tools"?
But i guess a DTS tool cant work with autogk.


Well, in this case the third party tool is WinDVD :)
There are no free DTS decoders available.

Originally posted by bob0r
You got any tips for me? how i maybe can encode this dvdr afterall?


Demux DTS as usual with DGIndex (the name of the file will contain audio delay that you have to put in VDubMod when you do the muxing later), convert it to MP3 as described probably in the FAQ section of audio forum (I just haven't done this in a while). Or if you have WinDVD installed then you can use regular GK to do that. Then convert the movie via AutoGK with no audio and custom size taking into accout audio you have already. Then mux everything manually.

CeeJay.dk
16th September 2004, 19:17
Originally posted by ydobon
Hello there,

To convert binary (sub/idx) subtitles to text (srt) subtitles you have to do OCR. As far as I know this needs human intervention, so it's not possible to automatize this step into the process.

That doesn't mean that you can't have srt subtitles. When I want text subtitles I open the sub/idx with SubRip, and OCR the subtitles. A quick review with the dictionary of a word processor and voilá!

Regards,

You're right .. I hadn't thought about that. Ofcourse it needs to run without human intervention for use with AutoGK.

I can't figure out how to use SubRip with sub/idx though .. I found that SubResync that comes with AutoGK does a fine job .. I also wonder if SubMux that also comes with it is able to insert the subtitles into the avi-container as a textstream.

BTW .. if you do sub/idx -> srt after AutoGK have made the sub/idx wont you loose a little moviequality because AutoGK will have reserved space on the CD for the subtitles .. space that is now wasted ? (because srt's are so tiny)
It might be better to choose no subtitles in AutoGK and have another tool make the subtitles .. Maybe have Subrip make them from the decrypted vob's.

ydobon
16th September 2004, 20:21
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I can't figure out how to use SubRip with sub/idx though [...]
Just click "open dir" and select the (un-rared) .sub file
Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
if you do sub/idx -> srt after AutoGK [...] space that is now wasted ? (because srt's are so tiny)[...]
True, for me it's not a big deal as I do the movies from 1/3 DVD-R to 2 GB. But as you say, you can AutoGK your movie without subtitles and extract the sub/idx pair yourself with VobSub (http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm), and then SubRip it (it is faster from the .sub than from the .vob files).


Regards,