Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[mwvirk]

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Mtz


thanks alot


i need help to solve my sync problem.

i am using now v1.86 and there is no sync problem.

i want to use v2.27 but need besweet in v2.27 not ac3 > wav > normalize > mp3 procedure.

any help pls.


thanks again

[BigDid]

... i need help to solve my sync problem.
Take a look at this post: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=810685#post810685
or read the guides: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/virtualdub_procedures.htm

I usually use around 20 ms for synching my captured files (range 15 to 25 ms)

... i want to use v2.27 but need besweet in v2.27 not ac3 > wav > normalize > mp3 procedure.

any help pls...
Then, just process the audio as usual with AGK, it will reserve the audio and overhead space and process the audio outside AGK with Besweet, Belight, whatever... and mux back the result in your AVI (made by AGK) with VDMod.
Setarip_old also made a quick how-to for muxing audio somewhere or :readguid:: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/audio-guides.htm

Did

[giannid]

Can someone tell me the difference in quality if I opt for a single pass target quantity of say 75% instead of the double pass predetermined size option?

How would this compare to a two-pass encode that coincidentally might give the same result of 75% quality, after the fact? Let's assume that the dimensions are the same for both.

[manono]

Hi-

Can someone tell me the difference in quality if I opt for a single pass target quantity of say 75% instead of the double pass predetermined size option?

No, no one can tell you the answer to that question.

How would this compare to a two-pass encode that coincidentally might give the same result of 75% quality, after the fact? Let's assume that the dimensions are the same for both.

That's a question that can be answered. If the results of the compress test are the same, and the other settings are the same (resolution, mostly), then the quality of the 2 will be pretty similar. The 1-pass Target Quality quantizer distribution will be more even, though.

[giannid]

Manono, thanks for your reply. I was trying to ask only one question, so I apologise for being vague.

[Pulp Catalyst]

strange, i've been getting a lot of audio sync problems aswell,

and these are from old dvd's which deffiently have no new protection,

i switched over to fairuse wizard as this checks for audio sync problems and seems to correct any issues that are there,

which again is strange because both programs depend on DGIndex,

this tells me that there is a way of correcting this sync issue, only that autogk doesn't have this fix (extra code needed to make the correction)

still fairuse wizard is quite good, and produces very good quallity, ecspecially when the quallity is set to max (although this adds a lot of time to the encode).

and for the newbies out there fairuse wizard 2.4 also has many high quallity auto-matic features which work very well i must say, also seems to handal new divx versions a lot better aswell,

but don't get me wrong, autoGK brought the mpeg4 conversion scene alive, and i'm sure we all know that and give our final respect to lenox,

live long and prosper.

[theredbaron37]

So I guess the sync issues aren't just me... What's the last stable edition that worked well for most people with the sync issues in 2.27? And is development over for sure?

[jggimi]

...is development over for sure?Len0x hasn't posted here since March. I won't put words in his mouth, but I will quote http://www.autogk.me.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=55 when 2.20 was released:...This is officially last version of AutoGK that I'm going to release. Never say never, but at the moment I have no plans of continuing developing it. Reasons are the usual ones: lack of time and motivation. I was struggling with keeping the development up for almost a year and nothing really worked out in the end (but users managed to give me a lot of grief during DAE story). So its over for now. I might still do some updates to include latest version of software used in the package if I'm around, but no changes to the core AutoGK should be expected. Obviously, there have been some updates since then, but as far as I know, no change to this policy has been announced.

[theredbaron37]

thanks... do you know which version gives me similar performance, but without the sync issues that many are having?

[Delphin]

This program is billed as a good simple application for unsophisticated users to encoded Xvid.

So, I have a question.

Has the issue of the ‘custom matrices’ being used by DEFAULT been fixed yet?
[when they cause problems for so many standalone players]

I think it's pretty much a given that ‘experimental’ features like ‘custom matrices’ should be disabled by default.

If ADVANCED users want them, FINE, let THEM deal with the hidden ‘secret handshake’ Ctrl-F9 options, NOT the other way around.

After sorting through a bunch of info at the AutoGK's main website, I did find these statements:

On 'ESS-based standalones' -
"MPEG4 players with ESS chipsets don't work with
the matrices that AutoGK uses with the XviD Codec."

(later in the same text)
"But you won't be losing anything, or getting a movie
inferior in any way by choosing that option."
[the ESS option]

And finally buried in the FAQ ...

4.7 If I don't know which chipset my standalone uses
what is the safest option to choose?

- ESS option is the most compatible one

Let me see if I have this straight ...
a) The ESS option [where AutoGK doesn't get 'cute' and use
'custom' matrices] works the most compatibly.

b) The quality is just about the same either way, because
[in their words] "you won't be loosing anything...".

c) Never the less, the AutoGK developers chose to pick
a non-standard 'standard' option which will lead to
problems with many thousands of standalone players.


SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE.

Yes, I understand that I don’t have to use the program, but that’s NOT THE POINT.

The point IS that even if I walk away from ‘AutoGK’, it WON’T ‘walk away’ from me
[and STOP causing me problems].

I have had to deal with many, many, many, Xvid videos, innocently created by well meaning AutoGK users and posted to the net, which end up looking like TOTAL GARBAGE on my standalone player because of the effects of this decision on the part of the developers.

If it seems like I am just a leeeetle P.O.’ed by this, that would be correct.

I have been running across these random ‘GARBAGE’ posts for a long long time, and did not have any idea why these folks were playing around with their Xvid settings like this.

It just didn’t seem to make any sense, most folks just arn't savy enough to start diddling the Xvid 'matrices'!

Then I finally got an answer to a polite query and the poster was quite upset
that I had run into any problem, because he;

“Hadn’t changed any options!” [in AutoGK].

AutoGK - Bingo!

So I checked out the AutoGK development thread and found that the ‘custom matrices’ used by AutoGK create problems, and that I could run a check to see if some of my other ‘GARBAGE’ videos I had downloaded had the unique ‘custom matrix’ signature.

So I got out the pile of useless disks I had burned for my standalone, and WTF! EVERY SINGLE ONE of the corrupted playback videos [dozens and dozens], show the unmistakable ‘custom matrix’ signature that shows it was encoded by AutoGK.

So obviously, I am not happy :angry: :angry: :angry:

[unskinnyboy]

Here is some friendly advice - bury your Jurassic standalone and sow some salt over that ground, stop downloading stuff if you don't have a clue what it is and last but not the least, watch your mouth.

:readrule:

[BigDid]

Hi,

Let me see if I have this straight ...
a) The ESS option [where AutoGK doesn't get 'cute' and use
'custom' matrices] works the most compatibly.
Yes

b) The quality is just about the same either way, because
[in their words] "you won't be loosing anything...".
Yes if used with a SAP having an ESS chipset, encoded at 640 width for a standard CRT TV.
No if encoded at full width (720/704) for new flat TV with upscaling that will magnify aliasing and/or artifacts

c) Never the less, the AutoGK developers chose to pick
a non-standard 'standard' option which will lead to
problems with many thousands of standalone players.
ESS chipset only. What is the brand/model/chipset of your SAP?
SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE.
Not really if you choose to enable the ESS option at install. It will create a .ESS (dot+ESS as the name) file in your agk folder and by DEFAUT all encodes will be done with the ESS option; You can manually create that .ESS file at the same place and have the same effects. You can check that by opening the hidden options CTRL/F9.
So I got out the pile of useless disks I had burned for my standalone, and WTF! EVERY SINGLE ONE of the F%&k#d-up videos [dozens and dozens], show the unmistakable ‘custom matrix’ signature that shows it was encoded by AutoGK...
Maybe you could had made a verification of your SAP possibilities and/or make tests encodes before encoding your "pile of useless disks"

If you are wishing to make your useless disks valuable, you may consider buying a SAP with a MTK1389 chipset available in Europe for 60 to 70 euros. I can assure you mine plays xvid files (with the MTK option) flawlessly and even more like 6000kbp/s bitrate or custom matrixes not SAP compliant. The SAP buyers guide has valuable infos here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98228

Now if your point is just to express your feelings, message received 5 of 5 and I will not respond further. If you are willing to find solutions I will consider further responses. Bye.

Did

Edited: Unskinnyboy was quicker than me on that one, but his post was ...shorter :D
@ USB; Hi, good work on your toolbar extension, waiting for a release with open in new tab.
As for downloaded material we do not discuss it here and it was not explicit/apparent in the original post, only thing I could say is more reasons to check the SAP compatibility before; see my proposal of a new compatible SAP.

[jggimi]

Delphin:

Rule 6 may reasonably apply, but Rule 4 certainly does.

Struck for rude behavior and lack of respect for developers and members here.

I recommend reading DDogg's post from 2001, it is still applicable and apparently a necessary reminder:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=7770

[manono]

Since you're fond of quoting the tutorial, here's one more for you:
Once more to make this perfectly clear; this guide will take you through the process of backing up your personally owned DVD disks
So, why should we care that your downloaded movies, most if not all almost certainly illegally obtained, don't play in your standalone? The tutorial and the FAQ spell out very clearly under which circumstances you can and cannot use the default custom matrices. They play on a computer, and on standalones using the Sigma and Mediatek chipsets. It seems that the only ones on which they don't play are those standalones with the ESS chipset. Just because they're popular and cheap (Philips DVP-642, for example), doesn't mean they're any good. Personally, I wouldn't have one if you gave it to me.

I have no sympathy for you.

[Lester Burnham]

I'm just completely boggled at the aggressive and arrogant tone directed at the "developers" who put all that effort into developing and app that is free to the community.

Totally bad form.

[Delphin]

Hi,

Yes

Yes if used with a SAP having an ESS chipset, encoded at 640 width for a standard CRT TV.
No if encoded at full width (720/704) for new flat TV with upscaling that will magnify aliasing and/or artifacts

ESS chipset only. What is the brand/model/chipset of your SAP?



I have found most of the hypothetical benefits of the 'custom matrices' to be illusory.

I have also played around with these ‘custom’ hi-res X-vid encodes [which would not play on my standalone], using my PC to play them, and have never found them to look even the tiniest bit better than normally encoded Xvid material.

So I afraid I'm in agreement with the what the FAQ states, there's not much to loose by turning off this whole 'custom matrix' feature as a default.

Thanks for the rest of your thoughtful reply, but I am afraid you mostly missed the point.

AutoGK is being used as a general purpose encoding tool to post video to the net, for the benifet of the moderator, NOT copyrighted material, but from my perspective also NOT PLAYABLE MATERIAL.

You see, I confess, I did it! YES I have one of those EVIL ESS based players.

I have a Philips 642 player, which works remarkably well, and is less than one year old.

I have no desire or need to change it; indeed several friends bought similar players after seeing how well mine worked.

One friend DID have a player based on another chip set, but it only lasted a few months, and I think he has now even gone to the Philips.

So that brings up a very interesting point.

If this poor shlub had encoded a bunch of disks with your great program [on his MTK based player], only to find them NOW UNPLAYABLE [on his shiny new Philips player], do you think he would give a crapola about some hypothetical could-be maybe improvement in the ‘matrices’???

The thing about the Philips is that it is widely available, has brand name recognition and support, and works great on almost everything [except ‘default’ AutoGK encodes].

[Oh, and it continues to work for more than three months.]

You might want to also consider the way ‘product life cycles’ work with technology driven products.

First; You get a few goodies to start with [like BASIC Xvid support].

Second; Then you get LOTS more goodies [like custom matrix support]

Lastly; The technology [like Xvid/MP4] falls into it’s ‘twilight’, and you AGAIN often get only essential features and BASIC support.

Let me ask you this; Is your DVD player a really good CD player or is the interface and performance just so-so?

On MOST DVD players CD support seems to be only so-so.

This is because CD support is ‘legacy’ for DVD players at this point [so if it works at all, then that’s pretty much ok, no one is expecting anything fancy].

The moral???
If these ‘custom matrices’ are never really seen as being absolutely necessary they WON’T pass muster and be included in cost-reduced chipsets as Xvid/MP4 moves into it’s ‘legacy support’ phase in a few years.

So laugh all you want to for now.

It may not be so funny in a decade, if the shoe is on the other foot and the number of players with chipsets that will play all those disks you so carefully encoded with a fancy 'custom matrices' shrinks to ZERO.

Good thing they were only backups anyway huh ;)

Big thanks for at least trying to be civil and helpful [which is more than I can say for some of the others].

:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Delphin

[manono]

Let me ask you this; Is your DVD player a really good CD player or is the interface and performance just so-so?

Was that directed at me, because I said some nasty things about your beloved DVP-642, or was it a rhetorical question directed at anyone reading? If for me, then yes, mine has good CD playback, and once they fixed some early AR problems with firmware upgrades, there have been no problems in the, what, year and a half or so that I've owned it, plus it's the best DVD player out there, in many people's estimation. The Philips as a DVD player is mediocre at best:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all

The Oppo DV-971H is at the top of the list while the Philips DVP-642 is well down among the also-rans with a 56 rating.

[Delphin]

Let me ask you this; Is your DVD player a really good CD player or is the interface and performance just so-so?

Was that directed at me, because I said some nasty things about your beloved DVP-642

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all

The Oppo DV-971H is at the top of the list while the Philips DVP-642 is well down among the also-rans with a 56 rating.

The Oppo DV-971H does indeed look like a damn fine player
[but I would kind of expect that at 4 times the price]

I paid about 45 dollars for my 642 on sale.

Would you expect a 10,000 dollar car to be 'just as good' as a 40,000 dollar car?

As to my question about CD support. . .

YES it was rhetorical.

No it had nothing to do with you.

The question was actually intended to make everyone THINK for a moment about how the support for some older technologies [like CD playback] can become fairly minimal when it is only included as a ‘legacy’ feature in some newer technology [like a DVD player].

That example, in turn, was only to help me make my next related point, which was that the advent of some new wiz-bang video encoding technology [like MPEG8 or whatever] could therefore do something similar, and ONCE AGAIN render the support for Xvid/MP4 pretty ‘minimal’ on many hardware players in the future [making the choice of ‘custom matrixes’ very questionable for long term archiving of video].

Clearly, I have failed to make you think about much of anything [except perhaps the quite strange notion that somehow my comment was an indirect slur of some sort].

Forget about it, I never attacked anyone in this forum directly, and am certainly not going to start getting cute and using any kind of silly ‘indirect’ approach.

If I want to say something you will know it.

For example, take your comment...


So, why should we care that your downloaded movies, most if not all almost certainly illegally obtained, don't play in your standalone?

NOTHING in ANY of my posts has referred in any way whatsoever to the copying of copyrighted or other ‘illegal’ material of ANY sort.

For example; where others in this forum have used the term ‘DVD rip’, I did not use that term. [Which I find offensive because it could be misinterpreted as DVD-Rip-Off],

For example; where others have posted specific guides to coping commercial disks with various kinds of protection schemes [which is at least controversial, depending on each countries concept of ‘fair use’], I published no such info.

I spoke ONLY of ‘Xvid Video being posted to the web’, which is a completely neutral statement which in NO WAY IMPLIES ANY COPYING OF COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL.

From my comments, I could have been talking about anything from old public domain NASA footage converted with this program, to DV camcorder footage of a church choir singling Christmas carols [and freely posted to the web by the proud pastor after being converted with AutoGK].

So based on this . . .

On what basis did you think it would be OK to attack me personally, and scurrilously accuse me of video piracy???

Since you and I don’t seem to be communicating very well, let me lay it out in as straightforward a manner as I can based on the way I understand the rules . . .

If you SAY something malicious like you did above to someone’s face in public, based on such totally unsubstantiated allegations, they call that SLANDER.

If you WRITE something malicious like you did above, based on such totally unsubstantiated allegations, and publish it to a public venue, they call that LIBEL.

If you POST something like this here on the Doom9 forum [like you did above], based on such totally unsubstantiated allegations, they call that a violation of rule 4 and rule 6 [or sometimes just a ‘booting offence’].

After lecturing me on civility and decorum, did you perhaps understand one of those differently than I did; perhaps I missed something?


And Lastly;


. . . cheap (Philips DVP-642, for example), doesn't mean they're any good. Personally, I wouldn't have one if you gave it to me.

I have no sympathy for you

That pretty much says it all doesn’t it?

Consideration for other users?

[manono]

...and am certainly not going to start getting cute...
NOTHING in ANY of my posts has referred in any way whatsoever to the copying of copyrighted or other ‘illegal’ material of ANY sort.
Who's kidding whom? And who's not getting cute? Here, read this, particularly #2:

http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?f=6

In any event, as you most likely already know, AutoGK development has stopped. There are other programs out there for making XviDs. Or you can use the DivX codec and avoid the matrix issue altogether. Or you can teach your pastor and other XviD spreading friends how to avoid the matrix issue.

I paid about 45 dollars for my 642 on sale.

And you get what you pay for. Just wait until you get a widescreen HDTV and then tell us how much you love it for AVI and DVD playback. $200 is fairly inexpensive for a good DVD player. The next one down on that list is a $3500 Denon player. The Oppo beats many DVD players costing many times as much

I'll withdraw from this discussion so as not to take the thread any further off topic than it already is. Feel free to have the last word.

[johndoes]

In any event, as you most likely already know, AutoGK development has stopped. There are other programs out there for making XviDs. Or you can use the DivX codec and avoid the matrix issue altogether.


AutoGK was astonishingly simple and thus useful. Unfortunately, since its development has ceased, it will soon become obsolete, if it hasn't already.

What are good alternatives? What is the community's consensus about the successor of AutoGK? In a word, which program would you suggest to replace AutoGK?

[weaver4]

AutoGK was astonishingly simple and thus useful. Unfortunately, since its development has ceased, it will soon become obsolete, if it hasn't already.

What are good alternatives? What is the community's consensus about the successor of AutoGK? In a word, which program would you suggest to replace AutoGK?


Well avi.net is very easy to use, and is very Stand-Alone friendly, but I think development has stopped on it. There is StaxRip which is great, but I think the author has said he has stopped development. How about Fair-Use-Wizard, amazing and simple program, but the author has not show up on his own support site for months. MPEG Mediator...no he stopped also. Gk...no work done there for years.

I know some think I am being silly, but I am putting my efforts (and faith) into DivX, the Converter and Dr. DivX 2. They have a source of Revenue to keep development going. This is even-though I think the XviD codec is slightly better.

Ok, go ahead and hit me; I like it.

[poisson]

Thanx for those (AGK) replacement suggestions Weaver.

I guess like Johndoes, as a complete novice to encoding, I too really appreciated AGK and have gotten some great results from it but if it's developement and support is waning or ceasing then I'd be pretty keen to know what program/s to turn to . . . .!!??

manono . . . . !!??

[laserfan]

Ok, go ahead and hit me; I like it.Here ya go then: WHACK! Every time I have installed/tried Divx I've been disappointed with the result...

Although your post is completely accurate (!) I guess to poisson & others I would say that doesn't mean you have to stop using the tool! How many of us here still use DVD Shrink, and that development ceased many many months ago!

I use AGK, and Fairuse Wizard, and StaxRip to make XviDs, and am very happy with my procedures (I won't bore you with what-proggie-I-use-for-what-purpose).

Learn, use, and enjoy! :cool:

[unskinnyboy]

Gents, while it is true that AutoGK development has ceased, it is far from obsolete. So you don't have to move to other utilities for that reason. For your purpose, it should work just fine.

Speaking of other utils though, there is also MeGUI which uses xvid_encraw for encoding.

[manono]

Hi-

..but if it's developement and support is waning or ceasing then I'd be pretty keen to know what program/s to turn to . . . .!!??

Development has ceased, yes. Support, no. Not when there are fellows like BigDid, unskinnyboy, CWR03, the mods, and others to help out when we can. I sometimes wish len0x (the developer) were around more often to help field all these audio asynch questions, but I'm pretty much convinced the problem is due to the new-fangled protections that our backer-uppers sometimes don't take into account when preparing their DVD VOBs for AutoGK. There are still some things AutoGK can do that none of the others can, and I still think it comes off well in comparison with the newer competitors.

len0x got AutoGK pretty much where he wanted it, and just because he's no longer working on it, as unskinnyboy reminds us, that's no reason at all to stop using it.

Some of the other programs are very good, and with development of both GKnot and AutoGK having ceased, I see this forum morphing soon into one for all the apps that convert DVD2AVI. It's kind of an obvious evolution for the (Auto)GKnot Forum now, but nothing official yet.

[Lester Burnham]

Hi-

..but if it's developement and support is waning or ceasing then I'd be pretty keen to know what program/s to turn to . . . .!!??

Development has ceased, yes. Support, no. Not when there are fellows like BigDid, unskinnyboy, CWR03, the mods, and others to help out when we can. I sometimes wish len0x (the developer) were around more often to help field all these audio asynch questions, but I'm pretty much convinved the problem is due due to the new-fangled protections that our backer-uppers sometimes don't take into account when preparing their DVD VOBs for AutoGK. There are still some things AutoGK can do that none of the others can, and I still think it comes off well in comparison with the newer competitors.

len0x got AutoGK pretty much where he wanted it, and just because he's no longer working on it, as unskinnyboy reminds us, that's no reason at all to stop using it.

Some of the other programs are very good, and with development of both GKnot and AutoGK having ceased, I see this forum morphing soon into one for all the apps that convert DVD2AVI. It's kind of an obvious evolution for the (Auto)GKnot Forum now, but nothing official yet.

Completely agreed - as it stands, I can think of no reason to dump AutoGK. I've used avi.NET too, but I have to say, AutoGK is by far my favourite - and I continue to use it, week-in, week-out.

[weaver4]

Speaking of other utils though, there is also MeGUI which uses xvid_encraw for encoding.

unskinnyboy- do you really think that MeGUI is a tool for a novice; and a replacement for AutoGK? I looked at the Guide and thought it was much more complicated than autogk, avi.net, staxrip, mpeg Mediator, FUW, super, realanimi, or Dr. DivX. I never really tried the tool but after I read the guide I wondered why someone would make such a tool. I thought to myself "I could use this too, but why would I?". But, I could of missed something.

[unskinnyboy]

Well, no tool here can replace any other tool totally. Each has its own niche space based on user needs and requirements. MeGUI is not a complicated tool - seems simple enough to me. It isn't as simple as AutoGK though, but that's because it gives you access to more settings to play around with. Maybe it is more comparable to good ol' GordianKnot in that sense. But if you find all the options & settings overwhelming, it also has a "one-click" mode which can be compared to AutoGK.

Only way to know for sure whether you will like it or not, is to give it a try.

P.S: Oh, and if the tools mentioned here weren't enough, there is also Vidomi (uses MPEG2AVI), EasyDivX (development stopped. only for DivX), Danni Din's MPEG2AVI GUI (again uses MPEG2AVI), SimpleDivX (supports XviD and DivX) etc. Then there are dodgy products like 'ImTOO DVD Ripper' etc which I don't even want to touch with a barge-pole even if its just for testing purposes.

[weaver4]

Yeah, I also thought it was equal in complexity to GK; that is why I have not recommended it to any "novices". But I did not know about the "one-click" mode; I don't think it was covered in the guide.

Thanks

[BigDid]

Hi,

While on alternatives (I did not say replacement) I haven't seen MkvMagic.
Here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101786
Last rev was 1.23 as of may 2006 and the author/Buzzqw is still developping, responding and cooperative.

Edit: 06-06-30 rev is now 1.30, same link

Did

[buzzqw]

i don't want to spam or whatever..

for sure AutoGK is a GREAT program. Point.

Easy, quick to learn, well designed, with a minumum extra settings for power user. It granted good encoding and a robust SA compatibility.

MeGui is another story. Not quick to learn, not well designed (or at last should be a better AutoEncode... but i wait for next builds) 'cause there are too much despersive settings or profile, not so easy to configure in "power mode". BUT, again, it is perfectly suited for its job... once you learn how to use.

MkvMagic is developed for poweruser. There are TONS of options that i can even remember. BUT , as opposed to MeGUI is ready "out-of-the-box", all settings is based on default and so the "user" can just point the source (and remember that MkvMagic can to DVD to AVI , automating all process, even dvd ripping) and click START.

It can be used even by a newby, it just must use varius options (can be resize filters, or avisynth filters (and QMF), DAR, audio....) and TRY. It is a good program for TS streams... and much much more... is even GPL :)

I think that anyone can try any of the above and not olnly programs, then stick with ones you like.

Let's encoding ! Is more fun to try/learn then watch movies :D

BHH

[mwvirk]

So I guess the sync issues aren't just me... What's the last stable edition that worked well for most people with the sync issues in 2.27? And is development over for sure?


i am sure that this sync problem in autogk was started from ver 1.87

upto ver 1.86 everything was ok, and problem started when len0x changed audio enc in autogk to ac3 > wav > normalize > mp3 procedure from ver 1.87 just to converting old mono dvd

[mwvirk]

based on my last (above) post.... can someone please help how to change AR in AGKnot ver 1.86 (hidden option is not support AR in this ver)

i can't use ver 2.27 as i am having audio sync problem in 2.27 ver or any other ver after 1.86.

thanks for all you.

[Spreeni]

hi mwvirk,

can you tell me, where I can get this old 1.86 version?

Thanks

Spreeni

[mwvirk]

hi mwvirk,

can you tell me, where I can get this old 1.86 version?

Thanks

Spreeni


hello Spreeni

if u can send me e-mail at mwvirk@yahoo.com then i can attach and send you v1.86

[mwvirk]

hi mwvirk,

can you tell me, where I can get this old 1.86 version?

Thanks

Spreeni


uploaded.... please check your e-mails.

Anything else...

[mwvirk]

can you tell me, where I can get this old 1.86 version?



if you want to use ver 1.86 just to solve audio sync problem then there is another better solution i can suggest you.

ver 1.86 is not having all the features you can enjoy. like mpeg1. multi angels dvd's. mannual AR etc.

i found one funny and tricky solution for autogk 2.27 to solve audio sync problem but i am still running some experimental encodings. once it successful i will post here.

anyone interested then pls pass you comments.

[DagOve]

I have used AUtoGK for a long time on an other PC, I just innstalled v2.27 on a other one, but I got problems with VirtualDub rather randomly dies with a error message "VitrualDub has encountered a problem and nees to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.".
This is during single pass encoding message in AutoGK.
What have I tried ?
Uninstalled/installed AutoGK 2.27 (dont have the older ones)
Tried on other DVD Decrypter rips
Searched the forum for this issue
Gave up, and writing this message ... help ?

[BigDid]

I have used AUtoGK for a long time on an other PC, I just innstalled v2.27 on a other one, but I got problems with VirtualDub rather randomly dies with a error message "VitrualDub has encountered a problem and nees to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."...
Hi and welcome to the forum,

Strange cause AGK uses VirtualDubMod and not VirtualDub...
What version of Vdub or VdubMod is used with AGK?

Did

[buzzqw]

@DagOve

multiprocessor ?

BHH

[DagOve]

BigDid : I know AutoGK uses VirtualDubMod, the version is 1.5.4.1.
The error message stated VirtualDub, but it comes from VitualDubMod for shure, I guess they have forgotten to change the name in all places in the source code when they modified it ?

buzzqw : Not really, 3.4Ghz P4 CPu, Hyperthreading on ?

[Marcoweb]

Hi mwvirk,

I have audio synch problem too (xvid + ac3) when I use AGK 2.27.

The audio is slightly before video.

I never had this problem before using this new release of AGK.

If you know how to solve this, I'm interrested in that.

Thanks.

[BigDid]

BigDid : I know AutoGK uses VirtualDubMod, the version is 1.5.4.1. ...
What have I tried ?
Uninstalled/installed AutoGK 2.27 (dont have the older ones)
Tried on other DVD Decrypter rips
Searched the forum for this issue
Did you clean uninstall -> trash everything in the folder?
and clean new install? -> Nothing more, nothing less than the Agk Package, specially no CODEC PACK !

If yes some issues already covered:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112626&highlight=VirtualDubMod
or
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=93554
or
Empty the avisynth folder (from Wilbert) /variant: trash the avisynth folder before new install...

Did

[BigDid]

Hi mwvirk,

I have audio synch problem too (xvid + ac3) when I use AGK 2.27.
...
If you know how to solve this, I'm interrested in that...
Hi,

Please see this post: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=856602#post856602
or the linked post inside,
or :search: for synch, out of synch etc...; many, many threads did cover that issue.

Did

[mwvirk]

I have used AUtoGK for a long time on an other PC, I just innstalled v2.27 on a other one, but I got problems with VirtualDub rather randomly dies with a error message "VitrualDub has encountered a problem and nees to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.".
This is during single pass encoding message in AutoGK.
What have I tried ?
Uninstalled/installed AutoGK 2.27 (dont have the older ones)
Tried on other DVD Decrypter rips
Searched the forum for this issue
Gave up, and writing this message ... help ?


problem is your operating system. no use for uninstalling and installing again and again.

can you tell me what operating system you r using.

MWVirk

[mwvirk]

Hi mwvirk,

I have audio synch problem too (xvid + ac3) when I use AGK 2.27.

The audio is slightly before video.

I never had this problem before using this new release of AGK.

If you know how to solve this, I'm interrested in that.

Thanks.


marcoweb... if you can read my preivous posts then you can find what i observe from this new agknot versions.

most of friends here saying that such problem is happening when you rip any protected dvd. but i tried all possibilties and found that this audio sync problem is actually due to bad sectors of dvd. which azid + lame tool cannot handle properly but besweet is ok.

what i am doing now..... load movie (.ifo) file in autogk 2.27 and do required setup (audio, file size, resulotion & sub blah blah) and submit the job and start process. once i get .ac3 file i am cancelling the process and loading that .ac3 file in BeLight software and converting .ac3 to .mp3 (you can see these guides in doom9.org - i am using the same one - but don't go for advance setting - setup everything on first screen)

now after getting .mp3 file in agk-temp folder i am moving it to somewhere else and submitting the same job again AFTER REDUCING THE OUTPUT FILE SIZE FOR ATLEAST 5-10 MB (why .... if will explain it later)

start process and let is re-create .ac3 and vdmod will start and then it will run azid then normalize and then lame and after lame it will start vdmod again for compressbilty test. once this start move (i said MOVE) your old .mp3 file to agk-temp folder and overwite new file and let the full process finish.

compare to lame, belight create exact audio output file and file size is few mb more than lame. if you will put 700mb for a movie then your output might be 705 or 708 thats why its always good to use -5MB instead of 700

i said move becuase moving file from one folder to other will faster than copying.


run some test and please let me know about this trick.

MWVirk

[len0x]

Here is something that doesn't happen every day - a new version of AutoGK - 2.30 beta only for readers of this thread (that's why its not anounced in the first post and on the website). I found some old sources with a slightly different GUI that I've done more than half a year ago to support unlimited number of audio/subs streams. Merged them into current version and it seems to be working but I cannot gurantee anything as I simply don't remember the state it was in... Have a go at it :)

P.S. its in the beta section on the website and don't forget to check out CTRL-F11 options :)

[kis2005]

Thanks very much. I like the new GUI. I'm giving it a try right now. It's good to see that your not updating Auto GK ...yes sarcasm.

[bourtzovlakas]

:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

[Henrikx]

Danke
Thank you len0x

:thanks: