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Wolfman
20th November 2003, 05:20
what about a volumising function ?? It wont make my hair grow back but it means I wont have to turn my tv up to double volume. Also a window that show the main choices on the gfik4u screen eg width & height sound and output size plus estimated time to finish. ALso very important lengthen the input and output folder bars, because with windows and nested dirs & folders its better to see the end of the string eg the actual file name rather than the start of the dir structure. I am presently awaiting my very first encode "atak-clones" to 1 cd 860mb.. might be crap but its a test... .... sleepy now...

Wolfman
20th November 2003, 05:42
It appears to have created a file of approx 880mb consisting of 440mb of 6ch ac3 sound and 400mb of avi. Will re- do .making sure that I select either mp3 or 2ch AC3. No problems on installation of the package. ALso two avi files of 718mb and 163mb (labelled cd1 and cd2)

manono
20th November 2003, 06:53
Hi-

If you choose anything over 1 CD (=700 MB), then by default you get the AC3 audio. You have to change that in Advanced Settings if you prefer the MP3.

what about a volumising function ??

For the AC3? Adjust your AC3 Filter settings. There's nothing wrong with the AC3 audio.

ALso two avi files of 718mb ...

You sure that's not 718,xxx KB, which is 701 MB? I think you got your 860 MB.

1 cd 860mb

Huh? For GKFast, 1 CD=700 MB. If you have a different sized CD, you'll have to mux the video and audio yourself.

..eg width & height sound and output size...

The Log Window will show the Width. The Height depends on the AR of the movie (1.33:1, 1.85:1. 2.35:1, etc.). You already chose the output size, and it's on the main screen. What's the point of that question?

estimated time to finish

Once the encoding starts, go to Dub In Progress in the upper left of VDubMod and open the Status Window. You'll see an estimated time for that pass. You have 2 passes plus the muxing , and the splitting if going for multiple CDs.

might be crap but its a test...

It'll be crap, but you never know until you try. :)

I can't help with the other questions

MindlessOath
20th November 2003, 09:22
when i said benchmark, i was thinking along the lines of "TIME" but FPS would be a good thing too.

as you can see here:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2003q4/appro-scorpion/index.x?pg=12
they use xmpeg for encoding to divx, im shure that your application is much better, am i wrong?
it would give a better perspective on hardware.

it wouldnt be a waste of time, and hell it wont take much time or effort in implimenting it. i would say to implement this in GK but its to complicated for people to use (not really), but its not an all in one things like this is. simple fast and not many choices. just rip DVD choose a few options, and encode/benchmark.

cant a video card help out with computations? i know it wont write to a hdd, but its possible it may help, but ohh well. i understand. i guess its only good for 3D modeling, decoding, and games :(

i guess i wont run offical mirrors, but if you really need them (ie low on bandwidth... let me know - i can see what i can do for you).

Maxxs
20th November 2003, 11:37
GC4 0.40 and problem with Mpeg1 (!) sound.
I have a DVD rip (DVD Decrypter 3.1.7.0 / IFO Mode) and MPEG1 sound and GC did not detect the sound.
Using the file mode, GC detects the mpeg1 sound. But the tutorial says, I should use IFO :D. So, whats wrong?

0xC0 - Audio - MPEG-1 / 2ch / 48kHz / 16bit / LBA: 44 / PTS: 00:00:00.230 / Delay: -80ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 4:3 / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.310 / Delay: 0ms

Maxxs

len0x
20th November 2003, 11:40
Originally posted by Maxxs

0xC0 - Audio - MPEG-1 / 2ch / 48kHz / 16bit / LBA: 44 / PTS: 00:00:00.230 / Delay: -80ms


Hm... Try changing 0xC0 to 0x80. Should work.

I really wonder if sound tracks have to have a dedicated id starting with 0x8x or not ? I've head before, that some soundtracks starts with 0xAx, now it's 0xCx. Is that normal ?

len0x
20th November 2003, 11:45
Originally posted by G2k
Would it be possible in the future to add more featured to subtitles? So that the person encoding can also add permanent subs of his/her own to the movie? I know that as of now they're seen as images, but if in the future you could change some stuff around so that it is viewed as text it would be sweet.


Images or text dosn't really matter coz VSFilter able to put in both.
It's more of a question do we want to allow user to specify alternative subs or not... And how come you have your own subs for DVDs ?

len0x
20th November 2003, 11:55
manono answered almost everything, I just make a few more points.

Originally posted by manono
1 cd 860mb
Huh? For GKFast, 1 CD=700 MB. If you have a different sized CD, you'll have to mux the video and audio yourself.


not necessarily, if you select custom size and 860Mb, then you will 860Mb output along with 700Mb and 160Mb chunks which you can discard and use one final avi.

About input editboxes - when I'll be rearranging GUI I'll take that into account.

len0x
20th November 2003, 11:58
Originally posted by MindlessOath
when i said benchmark, i was thinking along the lines of "TIME" but FPS would be a good thing too.


displaying FPS should not be a problem

Originally posted by MindlessOath
i guess i wont run offical mirrors, but if you really need them (ie low on bandwidth... let me know - i can see what i can do for you).

thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

Glytch
20th November 2003, 13:29
"Access violation at address 00404446 in module 'GkItFast4U.exe'. Read of address FFFFFFF9."

This was while trying to back up and encode Charlie's Angels Full Throttle.

Otherwise the new program has worked perfectly, this is the only time I've had a problem with it.

Keep up the good work.

Wolfman
20th November 2003, 13:38
I requested the volume function becuase i will be watching these on a dvd mpeg4 player and i find that I have to adjust the volume by x2 on most things I burn. Ability to set the cd size to what ever you use would be more convenient, as I use 99min/870mb cdr almost exclusively.
One set of output files, rather than the 860mb and two cd sized chunks would be good, simply for disk space sake. Adjusting the AC3 filter to increase the volume is not at all obvious. the status window in virtualdub is not obvious either.
in order of importance
CDsize=870 %size in MBs
volume=200 %percent

ini file perhaps??
Otherwise.. bloody good show.. old chap

len0x
20th November 2003, 15:07
Originally posted by Glytch
"Access violation at address 00404446 in module 'GkItFast4U.exe'. Read of address FFFFFFF9."
This was while trying to back up and encode Charlie's Angels Full Throttle.


:logfile:

at what stage is it failing ?

len0x
20th November 2003, 15:11
Originally posted by Wolfman
I requested the volume function becuase i will be watching these on a dvd mpeg4 player and i find that I have to adjust the volume by x2 on most things I burn.

But that should the be the case with original DVDs! You're not suggesting that I produce better result that on DVD, are you ? :)

brack
20th November 2003, 15:31
When do you think to add DivX support? The new version is out and beta was there a while ago.

manono
20th November 2003, 15:36
not necessarily, if you select custom size and 860Mb, then you will 860Mb output along with 700Mb and 160Mb chunks

Sorry, I should read my own guide (new and not yet released version), where I specifically state that there's the muxed whole .avi, as well as the split .avis.

len0x
20th November 2003, 16:02
Originally posted by brack
When do you think to add DivX support? The new version is out and beta was there a while ago.

As soon as I have first non-beta out, I'll start on DivX.

Important thing here: for resizing decision to made properly I need to empirically find out lots of parameters, so major codec change will always require some intensive research and will not be automatically supported (that is why I will never be testing beta versions of divx).

*EDIT*
So far before first release I want to address the following issues/features:

- some minor muxing/splitting problems
- "audion not found" rare bug
- see if audio id's like 0xA0, 0xC0 should be supported in stream info file
- some final testing of prediction accuracy for comp test
- may be deal with some difficult PAL material (wrong field order, 30->25fps transfer etc.)
- any other problems which come on the way (I already have some very wierd bug reports)

G2k
20th November 2003, 16:30
Originally posted by len0x
Images or text dosn't really matter coz VSFilter able to put in both.
It's more of a question do we want to allow user to specify alternative subs or not... And how come you have your own subs for DVDs ?

I have a friend who has a DVD and she asked me if I could make a backup of it (encode) and translate the subs to Italian for her since she got it in France and she doesn't understand very well.
Also, it is just handy and gives the user more power don't u think?

Peace

len0x
20th November 2003, 16:56
Originally posted by G2k

Also, it is just handy and gives the user more power don't u think?


It depends which user.
Imagine a user who's maximum knowledge in computers is MS Office. Do you really think he'll be translating subs ??? And that is the user this application is targeted to...

Maxxs
20th November 2003, 19:31
Originally posted by len0x

0xC0 - Audio - MPEG-1 / 2ch / 48kHz / 16bit / LBA: 44 / PTS: 00:00:00.230 / Delay: -80ms

Hm... Try changing 0xC0 to 0x80. Should work.

I really wonder if sound tracks have to have a dedicated id starting with 0x8x or not ? I've head before, that some soundtracks starts with 0xAx, now it's 0xCx. Is that normal ?

thanks, changing to 0x80 works fine.
But I don’t understand why it’s work in the file mode. Why should I use ISO when file mode works better? Sorry, maybe silly question.....

Maxxs

len0x
20th November 2003, 19:42
Originally posted by Maxxs

But I don’t understand why it’s work in the file mode. Why should I use ISO when file mode works better?


Can you rephrase it please - I don't understand the question :)

If you're asking why IFO mode should be used: the answer is simple - I cannot deal with multiple chains in one vobset, so you have to decrypt only what you gonna encode (no extras, etc).

lar1r
20th November 2003, 22:30
Wonderful program. I've been waiting a long time for something like this.

I like the minimalistic settings and options. My recommendations for future features are

- to add the ability to compress the credits at a different compression setting

- to add the ability for chapters

Kudos on a great job!

Glytch
20th November 2003, 22:51
len0x, the problem occurs after I select the input directory, I browse to the folder, hit "OK" and then it comes up with the error.

Cheers

len0x
20th November 2003, 22:57
Originally posted by Glytch
len0x, the problem occurs after I select the input directory, I browse to the folder, hit "OK" and then it comes up with the error.


please post the contents of "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt" file here.

len0x
20th November 2003, 23:06
Originally posted by lar1r

- to add the ability to compress the credits at a different compression setting


not until someone find a way of automatically detect start of the credits... You will never be able to select that manually.

Originally posted by lar1r

- to add the ability for chapters


last time I checked AVI format didn't have chapters. if you talking about different containers then why asking about addition to something which is not implemented yet ?

satfabio
20th November 2003, 23:40
Hi all,

I'm ready for testing GKIF4U with DivX codec.
Will be better 1 pass q2 because this function there is not
in GK and in GKIF4U.
I think that divx codec 5.02 pro is more used.
Sorry for my English.

Paul from Italy

Wolfman
21st November 2003, 01:34
m mmmm Yes please .. but on other, (mpeg2) encodes I do have the option to increase the volume. I think in the end if this is a novice product people will ask for this regardless of whether they use it or not. And I certainly would use it, as would many other people.

Wolfman
21st November 2003, 02:05
my new gkif4u encode dont play..."codec not supported"
yes I do have the latest firmware
This does not play on my yamada 6100 .. whereas previously encoded xvid and divx do...

shizen hausen ... this cdr does however play on my computer (bsplayer)

dosdan
21st November 2003, 03:46
I'm using an Athlon 1800. When I inspected the .D2V file it told me that for the iDCT algorithm it was using "FPU". Wouldn't it be quicker with "MMXSSE"?

manono
21st November 2003, 04:45
Wolfman-

I'll put something about soft volume for AC3 on a computer in the upcoming FAQ. When you play it in your DVD/MPEG4 player (assuming you got one to play), the volume is OK, isn't it? But that's not really a GKFast issue, since everyone using the AC3 Filter without tweaking the settings has the same problem.

I just tested a GKFast encoded video with AC3 in my DVD/MPEG4 player for the first time and it plays fine. I can think of a couple of possible reasons why your's doesn't play, but I think it's the first one I'm going to present, and I'd like to rule that out before going to the second possible reason.

The loader in a DVD/MPEG4 player is just a regular DVD-ROM. And some DVD-ROMs support 99 minute CD-Rs, and some don't. Is it possible that yours doesn't support 99 minute CD-Rs? You can test by burning that 163 MB .avi to a 700 MB/80 minute CD-R and play it in the DVD/MPEG4 player. Or have you already tried to play a 700 MB CD-R with video encoded by GKFast, and it didn't play, either?

If it's the size of the CDs you're using that's causing the problem, then that's not a GKFast issue, so I'd like to find out the answer first. Because the second possibility is a GKFast issue, but more on that later.

Glytch
21st November 2003, 06:44
len0x:

As far as I can see, it doesn't create a Stream Information file at all. I assume the stream information is supposed to be in the same folder as the VOBs? If so it's not there.

manono
21st November 2003, 07:33
Hi-

...it doesn't create a Stream Information file at all.

Open DVDDecrypter. In Tools->Settings->IFO Mode->Create Additional Files, do you have Stream Information checked? You should.

zerocoolnl
21st November 2003, 09:05
Click on Defaults.....

Zerocoolnl

len0x
21st November 2003, 12:19
Originally posted by dosdan
I'm using an Athlon 1800. When I inspected the .D2V file it told me that for the iDCT algorithm it was using "FPU". Wouldn't it be quicker with "MMXSSE"?

Indeed it would. My bad - those settings got changed from previous version of DVD2AVI and now 2 means FPU and previously meant SSE... Will change that. Thanks for pointing that out.

pixolex
21st November 2003, 13:03
in some future, when you'll suport matroska...will you use mkvtoolnix or VirtualDubMode?
You said in GK you'll not use mkvtoolnix because it's needed to refomulate the all code...but not in GKIF4Y :D

Or you didn't you think in that :P

Keep the good work with this EASY program!

len0x
21st November 2003, 13:22
you're right I'm not that connected with vdubmod anymore in GKIF4U, but I haven't really thought about matroska at all :)

Wolfman
21st November 2003, 17:27
well after getting this error Last nite "codec not supported" on my dvd player I have been investigating and exploring. My conclusions are that 99min cdr are fine, used many times for mp3 and svcd. Xvid codec is fine on dvd player. Other xvid clips play fine. Divx is fine on dvd player. No problem there either. All test clips work fine on my computer in both bsplayer and powerdvd. Test clips encoded with gkif4u do not work properly on the dvd player.
very low bitrate clip gives error "codec not supported"
other std rate clips are very blurry and distorted, with a lot of smearing.
So it looks like my dvdplayer doesnt like clips encoded with GKIF4U which uses virtdubmod rather than nandub which is what the other working xvid clips use. Any suggestions? hints?

len0x
21st November 2003, 17:30
Originally posted by Wolfman
So it looks like my dvdplayer doesnt like clips encoded with GKIF4U which uses virtdubmod rather than nandub which is what the other working xvid clips use. Any suggestions? hints?

vdubmod or nandub should not make any difference. Does all you other rips with XviD (which could be played) are done using Bframes ?

Wolfman
21st November 2003, 17:41
Unfortunately I cannot tell if the other clips use b frames as they were done by other people. FYI the manual for my dvd player states mpeg4 video must conform to iso mpeg4 simple or advanced simple profile WITHOUT quarter pixel or GMC.

len0x
21st November 2003, 17:51
I'm not sure - may be someone can answer this: are XviD bframes compatible with DivX bframes ?

bkam
21st November 2003, 18:11
Originally posted by len0x
I'm not sure - may be someone can answer this: are XviD bframes compatible with DivX bframes ? Well, I could be totally wrong, but if GKIF4U checks the "DX50 B-VOP compatibility" box, I'm pretty sure that's what the checkbox does, right? The tooltip says: "Generate DivX 5.1 compatible B-frames." So my guess is that they ARE compatible, unless GKIF4U unchecks this (which the tooltip says is not recommended).

len0x
21st November 2003, 18:17
Originally posted by bkam
Well, I could be totally wrong, but if GKIF4U checks the "DX50 B-VOP compatibility" box, I'm pretty sure that's what the checkbox does, right? The tooltip says: "Generate DivX 5.1 compatible B-frames." So my guess is that they ARE compatible, unless GKIF4U unchecks this (which the tooltip says is not recommended).

Well, checkbox is checked. But there must be some difference still, coz xvid allows several bframes in a row for instance... And may be it packs them differently. I don't know.

The other non-standard bit is - custom mpeg matrix. I wonder if hardware cares about that...

zerocoolnl
22nd November 2003, 00:05
What kind of logo are you looking for??
I have founded a little bit of time somewhere to make a few ones :cool:

Gr,
Zerocoolnl

manono
22nd November 2003, 00:51
Hi Wolfman-

That suggestion was a lousy one, eh? OK, here's my second and last idea. There have been reports of .avis that have been muxed using AviMux not playing in DVD/MPEG4 players. Although GKFast .avis are muxed using VDubMod, I'm thinking that the interleaving values might be the reason you're having trouble. The AviMux thread is here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65121).

So my other idea is about the Interleaving values. However, I just tried a GKFast .avi muxed with its interleaving settings in my player, and it plays fine. However, not all players are the same. So if you want to test, and waste a CD-R in the process, here's what you do. Open an .avi in VDubMod. Ignore the B-Frames warning you'll see. Go to Video and set it to Direct Stream Copy. Then hit Streams and Streams List and you should see the AC3 Audio. Right click on that and you'll see the Interleaving and open that. Change Preload 500 ms to 96 ms, and change Interleave Audio from 1 to 96 ms (NOT Frames). Then Click OK twice and go to File->Save As and give it another name (like Movie2.avi). Wait a minute or 2 and then burn it to CD-R and see if it will play. If that doesn't work, maybe burn just the video portion of the movie (without audio) to CD-R and see if that will play. I'm pretty sure it will, as I think this is an audio issue. If none of that works, then I'm fresh out of ideas.

And I don't think it's a custom Matrix problem. My player plays them fine, and they comply with the standard anyway. sysKin confirmed that once.

Anyone else have a DVD/MPEG4 player. Any problems with GKFast created movies? Yes? No?

XenoDaSouljah
22nd November 2003, 12:44
Hi,

Just did ttt extended edition dvd 1.

The movie is badly undersized although the quality is good. The source is a retail pal dvd region 2.

Here is the log: [11/20/2003 11:32:34 PM] Started encoding.
[11/20/2003 11:32:34 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[11/20/2003 11:35:08 PM] Indexing subtitles.
[11/20/2003 11:37:13 PM] Analyzing source.
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Found 153270 frames
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Audio size: 343348992
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Overhead: 1820032
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Video Size: 1003299712
[11/20/2003 11:42:00 PM] Running compressibility test.
[11/20/2003 11:52:23 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 51.60
[11/20/2003 11:52:23 PM] Using softer matrix.
[11/20/2003 11:52:23 PM] Chosen width is: 576
[11/20/2003 11:52:23 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 75.18
[11/20/2003 11:52:23 PM] Running first pass.
[11/21/2003 1:55:51 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 75.01
[11/21/2003 1:55:51 AM] Running second pass.
[11/21/2003 3:45:05 AM] Muxing Audio.
[11/21/2003 3:46:43 AM] Splitting video into: F:\LOTR_TWO_TOWERS_SEE_D2\ttt_dvd1_extended.CD1.avi
[11/21/2003 3:47:51 AM] Splitting video into: F:\LOTR_TWO_TOWERS_SEE_D2\ttt_dvd1_extended.CD2.avi
[11/21/2003 3:48:41 AM] Finished encoding.


File size cd2: 587mb.

This is done with version 0.4beta
Michel

len0x
22nd November 2003, 13:26
Originally posted by XenoDaSouljah
File size cd2: 587mb.


what you see is what you get: if you calculate total size of audio + video + overhead (from log file) it'll be 1286 Mb which is right on target. You must have selected wrong target size...

XenoDaSouljah
22nd November 2003, 13:52
Originally posted by len0x
what you see is what you get: if you calculate total size of audio + video + overhead (from log file) it'll be 1286 Mb which is right on target. You must have selected wrong target size...

You are absolutly right, i wasnt looking correctly. Sorry for the mistake :)

GizmoDerMokwai
22nd November 2003, 13:54
will there be any option in further versions to set max. resolution width? because i need a option to set max width to 640px...

len0x
22nd November 2003, 17:26
Almost feature freeze release. From now on I'll be concentration on fixing bugs for first release 0.5. (So far I only know about just one bug - not able to start GKIF4U - does anyone experience that?)

@GizmoDerMokwai

I'm not sure it's vital option - go for one CD option. Otherwize you might end up with undersized files...
(I might add that later, but it requires lots of hacking...)

Darth Maul BR
22nd November 2003, 22:22
Great app and good work!!! :D

I sugest make the icons skinable for an better visual, see the screns that i make on photoshop:

Apple Mac XP Style
http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKIF4U_Mac_Style.jpg

WIN XP Style
http://members.lycos.co.uk/darthmaulbr/teste/GKIF4U_XP_Style.jpg


Thanks for this great app!!!
:)

len0x
22nd November 2003, 23:19
Originally posted by Darth Maul BR

I sugest make the icons skinable for an better visual, see the screns that i make on photoshop:


If you care to do them as images and send to me. I might as well put them as default images and see if I can switch them dynamically :)