Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[AZEncoder]

First, please forgive my noobiness. :) I have read a lot of messages on the forums here in the last week and a half. I understood some of it, certainly not all of it, and have tried to follow forum rules by searching for enlightenment.

I have used AutoGK to encode a bunch (approximately 80 TV episodes) of other stuff. It has worked flawlessly. Bravo len0x!!!!!!!! interestingly enough playing with AutoGK now has me wanting to learn more (how to use full blown GK) so that I have more control over backup processes.

I am trying to use AutoGK to back up my purchased copy of Die Another Day (James Bond). I have run into a subtitle issue.

Used AutoGK .77b

Attempt #1 settings:
Audio Track: English AC3 6ch
Subtitle Track: No Subtitles
Output size: 1 CD (700Mb)
Advanced Settings
Resolution Settings: Fixed Width 640
Codec: Xvid
Audio: Auto(AC3/VBR MP3)
Display only forced subtitles: not checked
Use external subtitles: not checked

Results: no subtitles, Sound good, picture looked great.

Attempt #2 settings:
Audio Track: English AC3 6ch
Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions
Output size: 1 CD (700Mb)
Advanced Settings
Resolution Settings: Fixed Width 640
Codec: Xvid
Audio: Auto(AC3/VBR MP3)
Display only forced subtitles: not checked
Use external subtitles: not checked

Results: subtitles throughout entire movie, but synchronization of subtitles gets out of wack after initial scene, Sound good, picture looked great.

Attempt #3 settings:
Audio Track: English AC3 6ch
Subtitle Track: No subtitles
Output size: 1 CD (700Mb)
Advanced Settings
Resolution Settings: Fixed Width 640
Codec: Xvid
Audio: Auto(AC3/VBR MP3)
Display only forced subtitles: checked
Use external subtitles: not checked

Results: no subtitles, Sound good, picture looked great.

What I am trying to accomplish is just get the movie backed up so that the subtitles show just during the beginning of the movie like when you watch the DVD without subtitles turned on. Seems pretty uncomplicated but, something is going wrong.

I screwed up the .log file by going back into AutoGK and trying to run a preview. I will re-run Attempt #3 to grab .log file and post it later. I saw in one of the other threads about forced subtitles but was unable to come to any conclusions from the comments mades about my situation.

Also, I read the original documentation that was written by manono and is accessed from the @len0x's forum post on current version message in the Gordian Knot development forum. manono any chance you could update the tutorial to reflect the choice of forced subtitles and external subtitles? Just trying to understand what exactly those options do.

Thanks in advance!

AZEncoder

P.S. After I posted the above note, a flash of insight struck me. Maybe "Display only forced subtitles" means that you have to turn subtitles on but they will only display the "forced ones" (like at the beginning of Die Another Day). So, I am re-encoding an attempt #4 with the following settings:

Attempt #4 settings:
Audio Track: English AC3 6ch
Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions
Output size: 1 CD (700Mb)
Advanced Settings
Resolution Settings: Fixed Width 640
Codec: Xvid
Audio: Auto(AC3/VBR MP3)
Display only forced subtitles: checked
Use external subtitles: not checked

I'll post the results later.

[manono]

Hi-

Being done as we speak. But I don't think it's going to help with your problem.

[len0x]

Subs angles and PGCs are now handled via subs.settings file (see history).

I'm gonna have a holiday break (see my other post in this forum), so nothing much will be done in the next a couple of weeks.

[zerocoolnl]

Holiday? Are you joking? We need you man! haha..

Greetz,
Zerocoolnl

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by AZEncoder

P.S. After I posted the above note, a flash of insight struck me. Maybe "Display only forced subtitles" means that you have to turn subtitles on but they will only display the "forced ones" (like at the beginning of Die Another Day). So, I am re-encoding an attempt #4 with the following settings:

Attempt #4 settings:
Audio Track: English AC3 6ch
Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions
Output size: 1 CD (700Mb)
Advanced Settings
Resolution Settings: Fixed Width 640
Codec: Xvid
Audio: Auto(AC3/VBR MP3)
Display only forced subtitles: checked
Use external subtitles: not checked

I'll post the results later. [/B]

Results from later well it didn't work the way I thought it would in the above attempt #4.

Notice that I chose

Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions
and
Display only forced subtitles: checked

well the results were that no subtitles showed up anywhere in the movie.

There are three sets of English subtitles in the movie so I am going to try using one of the other sets of English subtitles to see what happens. with the following settings.

Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions (second set)
and
Display only forced subtitles: not checked

I will post results later.

AZEncoder

P.S. manono, I think my messages probably ought to be in their own thread, (sorry for not posting that way to begin with). Do you have the ability/desire to move this to a new thread or should I do that? Perhaps the title should be "Missing/non-synchronized subtitles".

[manono]

AZEncoder-

Sometimes the Forced Subs are in their own stream, so your new plan should (might?) work. Rather than run the full encode before finding out the results, just run the Preview, and if you don't get the Forced Subs on your first try, go back and pick another Sub Stream and run the Preview again. The Preview should be slow to set up only the first time, and when just selecting a different set of subs, it should be real fast the later times.

Doing it that way, you won't check Forced Subs at all, but just the different English subs.

P.S. manono, I think my messages probably ought to be in their own thread,...

Nah, that's OK. Maybe others will learn from your experiences. And I'll be able to incorporate what you're learning into the Guide. Sorry, I should have mentioned that earlier-that the Forced Subs are sometimes in their own Sub Stream, and not always part of the main Sub Stream. If you know there are Forced Subs, and you see the Multiple Sub Streams in the same language, that should alert you.

[AZEncoder]

manono,

Originally posted by AZEncoder

There are three sets of English subtitles in the movie so I am going to try using one of the other sets of English subtitles to see what happens. with the following settings.

Subtitle Track: English Normal Captions (second set)
and
Display only forced subtitles: not checked

I did what you suggested (using preview mode) and it turns out that the other two "English" subtitle sets were French and Spanish. I don't know what the deal is with that as there is also listed 2 other french versions and 8 additional Spanish versions of subtitles. So, the long and the short of it is that the "display only forced subtitles" switch doesn't work (at least not in Die Another Day). And the only way to get subtitles (in English) is to choose the first Enlish choice under subtitles and do not choose "Display only forced subtitles". The secondary problem I have with this particular set of parameters is that after the initial scene where the forced subtitles are appropriate. The other subtitles are out of sync throughout the remainder of the movie.

So, what you are saying should normally work (from reading your updated tutorial and the examples you use) are the following settings.

Subtitle Track: None
and
Display only forced subtitles: checked

Correct? Or did I miss something?

AZEncoder

[manono]

Hi AZEncoder-

Correct? Or did I miss something?

Maybe I missed something, as I was anything but clear there. I haven't tested AutoGKnot with Forced Subs yet, but since I own the LOTR DVDs, perhaps I should one of these days. I think you have to choose both a main Substream, and then also check Forced Subs. That's if there are Forced Subs embedded within that main Substream. If they are a separate stream, then you should be able to select only that stream, and then not check Forced Subs. If you have one stream with both the complete English Subs, together with the Forced Subs, then that's the one you'd choose, together with checking the Forced Subs box.

One thing you might try is use the Main GKnot to track down those pesky Forced Subs. Go to the Subtitles Tab, and then to Resynch. Pick one stream after another, and see if the Forced Subs are there (there's a separate column for them). If you know where the Forced Subs are supposed to be, then highlight the corresponding line to see what the subs for that line say. If they aren't there, then one of the streams should be real short, since there are relatively few lines of Forced Subs. Go back into AutoGK, and then test out that same stream. This may be slightly inaccurate, since I'm not looking at a Sub Stream that has Forced Subs, but once you try out Resynch, you should be able to figure it out.

And in your case, you may have to check out all the streams, as you said the other two English Streams were French and Spanish, so maybe one of the later French or Spanish Streams has what you want. But that's all real quick to check in Resynch.

Edit later: I forgot, since I already had VobSub and didn't install it as part of AutoGK. If you did install it, just look in your AutoGK folder and you should see VobSub, and inside there you should see subresynch.exe.

[satfabio]

I think that should be better make a change in
advance settings section:

When user open this section and select a option and after
close the form with x the options are saved in ini files.
But should be professional if the options are saved if user
click only on OK button and not on X.

Paul

[manono]

Hi satfabio-

There's a note about that in the Advanced Settings portion of the guide. I mentioned it once to len0x and he thought it better to save the settings for people that always wish to use the same settings.

Note: As you all know, for the last six weeks or so, len0x has been tireless in his updates to AutoGK, and in his quick responses to questions and suggestions. But for the next 3 weeks he won't be visiting nearly as often, and I hope we all agree that he deserves a break. But in the meantime, we'll be relying on each other more to help out.

[madprofessor]

Originally posted by len0x
Subs angles and PGCs are now handled via subs.settings file (see history).

I'm gonna have a holiday break (see my other post in this forum), so nothing much will be done in the next a couple of weeks.

OK the quick hack worked for me like a charm :D :sly: :D :cool:
again my congrats for that excellect program and a very small suggestion after a lot of episode encodin :p
why not have as a default selection for the name of the output file the name of the input directory? so if one has made the folder after the decryption he doesnt have to touch that tab at all :rolleyes:

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[azza_lizard]

Originally posted by madprofessor

why not have as a default selection for the name of the output file the name of the input directory? so if one has made the folder after the decryption he doesnt have to touch that tab at all :rolleyes:



Yes please..... and an option/default to remember the output directory last used too... those pesky files are going everywhere:rolleyes:

Seasons greets to all

[Wolfman]

if agk does multiple encodes one after the other it could attach a job number to the output file eg encode1.avi encode2.avi thereby allowing batch files to be setup and left running overnight without any user input. Have'nt used 0.8 yet (or 0.77). seems to be some sort of holiday thing happening.. mucking up all my schedules!! Bah Humbug!
Also shouldnt the new release be 0.80 rather than 0.8?:D

[DevilsChild]

Hi,

BeSweet keeps crashing on my computer every time AutoGK 0.8 tries to make an MP3 file. This happens regardless of what MP3 settings I use, and even older versions of AutoGK crash EVERY time BeSweet is used.

Any ideas?
____________________________

Audio log:

Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 12/22/03 , 14:42:22.

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\DETOUR AC3 T01 2_0ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\DETOUR AC3 T01 2_0ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\DETOUR AC3 T01 2_0ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -c normal ) -lame( -h --abr 128 ) -profile( GordianKnotItFast4U )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\DETOUR AC3 T01 2_0ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\DETOUR AC3 T01 2_0ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -INF, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : ABR
[00:00:00:000] | Avarege Bitrate : 128
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Min bitrate : 32
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 Max bitrate : 320
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------

_______________________

AutoGK log:

[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Input dir: C:\DVD\Rips\Detour
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Output file: C:\DVD\Projects\Detour.avi
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Audio: Unknown language
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Subtitles: none
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Codec: XviD
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Target size: 1400Mb
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Started encoding.
[12/22/2003 2:29:04 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[12/22/2003 2:34:12 PM] Analyzing source.
[12/22/2003 2:34:12 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD\Projects\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVD\\Projects\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\DVD\\Projects\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[12/22/2003 2:42:10 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 32.61
[12/22/2003 2:42:10 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 82.29
[12/22/2003 2:42:10 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 16.29
[12/22/2003 2:42:10 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 1.43
[12/22/2003 2:42:10 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[12/22/2003 2:42:13 PM] Found 128594 frames
[12/22/2003 2:42:13 PM] Encoding audio.
[12/22/2003 2:45:47 PM] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[12/22/2003 2:45:47 PM] Overhead: 5,143,808 bytes (4.91 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[12/22/2003 2:45:47 PM] Job finished.

[Wolfman]

re-install besweet.. or turn off hyperthreading .. or relocate the exe file. Also your log file shows parameter "--abr" it might be the double dash?? audio 4gb sounds slightly OTT!

[robust]

why don't i get a response on my question?
I want to encode movies with two tracks. And AutoGK doesn't have such feature though it is necessary.
That's why i'm asking the developer again: "Would you please be so kind to add this feature in your next release(s) of AutoGK?"

[manono]

Take it easy there, robust-

It's on the to do list, and sooner or later that feature will be implemented. In the meantime you can use this workaround. Allow room on your encode for the second audio track plus the overhead, convert that track yourself outside of AutoGK, and then mux it in yourself. So, if you're making a 2 CD rip, and the second audio track+overhead is 100 MB, for example, then make the .avi for 1300 MB, convert the 2nd audio track (if MP3 is what you want), mux in the second audio track, and then split. If the second audio track hadn't been demuxed yet from the vob files, then go back into DVD2AVI and get it.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by robust
why don't i get a response on my question?
Weren't you taught to say please?
"Would you please be so kind to add this feature in your next release(s) of AutoGK?"
Ah, you were taught indeed! Now you got your answer. See? With good manners it's a lot easier. Also, you may find this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=38330&highlight=free+pies#post38330) reading interesting.

[robust]

Originally posted by r6d2
Weren't you taught to say please?

Ah, you were taught indeed! Now you got your answer. See? With good manners it's a lot easier. Also, you may find this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=38330&highlight=free+pies#post38330) reading interesting.

I post here not to conduct debates with such flooders like you. Watch your 'good' manners (to be correct - lack of them). You've chosen wrong forum for teaching someone of what you're not even aware of.
manono gave me the clear answer - "this is on to-do list". That's all i needed. and i thank him for that.

2 manono
Actually, i know how to make 2 tracks manually, but i want this feature to be added in the AutoGK. I thought, the developer forgot about it. thanks for making it clear to me now .

[len0x]

Originally posted by DevilsChild

BeSweet keeps crashing on my computer every time AutoGK 0.8 tries to make an MP3 file. This happens regardless of what MP3 settings I use, and even older versions of AutoGK crash EVERY time BeSweet is used.


Hmm... It's not the first time I hear this.
Important thing are:
- is audio mp3 file indeed 4Gb in size?
- is it playable at all?

Lets go from there.

P.S. you can try extracting besweeet 1.5b24 into besweet dir and see if that fixes your problem. But I'm really curious what's happening there anyway.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by robust
You've chosen wrong forum for teaching someone
I'm not teaching you good manners. And since in fact I don't know you, I presumed you had them. Just pointed out you better use them.
manono gave me the clear answer - "this is on to-do list".
You could have saved the embarrasment by reading the ToDo list by len0x on his first post (or later comments on this thread), but instead you asked twice, and the second time disregarding proper conduct in this forum towards a developer, particularly when it comes to free tools. I suggested a reading on that subject, but obviously you seem to disregard any advice and do everything your way.

You know, bad manners better be used (if available). Ignorance can be overcome. But lazyness leaves almost no room for improvement.

[MediaMage]

i wish every one of you a merry x-mas around the world,
and especially to lenOx for crafting us such a nice tool!

so, i already have made lenOx a present some time ago (the first donation EVER!!)
if YOU want to make him a little present, just donate some cash ;)

(just think, how much time autogk COST lenOx, and how much time is SAVES us!)

[manono]

Way to go, MediaMage! :goodpost:

[AZEncoder]

A very Merry Christmas to each and everyone. I hope that Santa was as good to you as he was to me.

And a special thanks to len0x for the unbelievable amount of time and effort that he does in our behalf. May we never be ungrateful for all that he does for those of us who do not have the talent nor expertise that he is blessed with.

I second MediaMage's thoughts on our making len0x's Christmas and New Year a little better by making a contribution or in some of our cases a second contribution for all the work on GK and AutoGK.

AZEncoder

[len0x]

Merry Xmas everyone and and special thanks to those donating (not many but still). :thanks:

[LenLen]

You guys have done an amazing job making this program.. I ripped an episode from my x-files dvd collection and I can't believe the quality.. (I've been fiddling around with all the programs for a month now but haven't equalled it) and I am just so impressed! I do have one request thoug (as we always do) :) Have you considered incorporating the option for a batch job? That would make an already amazing program even moreso.. Thanks for all of your hard work guys!

[manono]

Hi and welcome to the Forum-

Glad to hear that you're getting good results easily. This is from the bottom of very first post in this thread, so many pages ago:
My TODO list:

- job queue support (batch mode)
- more complicated IVTC parameters tuning
- AVS Settings customization via config file, i.e. noise filter lines, deinterlace lines, decomb lines.
- second language support


len0x must be psychic. He read your mind before you even asked the question. :)

[mikeathome]

@len0x:

Happy X-Mas and a prosperous new year !

I hope you don't ingnore my post as in the past when I was requesting an improvement in the size setting dialog.

This time I desparately looking for your help. Santa brought a DivX player Medion/Lifetec 7457 equipped with the new Mediatec chipset. It plays flawlessy AGK-Xvid-CustomSize-AVI DVD-R exact until the 2GIG size border. Then skips to the next AVI, in case there is one.

Could you pls. add an option to save segmented AVI with custom size setting, size 2000MB. This would perfectly overcome this limitation since the player automatically skips to the next AVI seamlessy, at least with current firmware.

thx. for your software, regards, mike

[Wolfman]

You can do this yourself with vdub .. plus what sort of xvid encode NEEDS more than 2gb.. surely your overdoing thigs .. average compression rate about 10:1 (xvid) your source cant be 20GB!! maybe 2gb is limit of the avi container (20bit addressing or such like?) or is 2gb maximum limit of ANY file on dvd, remember std dvd is broken into 1gb chunks (vobs)..AFAIK.

[MindlessOath]

if u are creating custom size of 4 to 8gb for autoGK your really going overboard NO movie unless its over 3 hours long is going to be that big. you should for one... break up your current files using vdub, and two... create custom files that are smaller than 2GB, because no "current" hardware firmware/chipset will play files over 2GB... its just way not needed... like said before dvd's break up files in many VOB files that are relitivly small on a dvd (about 1 - 2 GB). if your copying things to DVD keep them small and dont go overboard. (even with highest res and a nice bitrate and sound... it shouldnt go to huge, i would say 2GB at most).

[manono]

Hi-

...even with highest res and a nice bitrate and sound... it shouldnt go to huge, i would say 2GB at most.

Perhaps you just haven't seen any yet. I've seen dozens. As both you and Wolfman said, it's easy enough to split them ourselves, though. But I don't think it's an unreasonable request. Up to len0x whether or not he'll implement it, though.

[najt]

Originally posted by manono

Perhaps you just haven't seen any yet. I've seen dozens. As both you and Wolfman said, it's easy enough to split them ourselves, though. But I don't think it's an unreasonable request. Up to len0x whether or not he'll implement it, though.

I'm against it. This program is for the average Joe and shouldn't be complicated/cluttered with advanced options.

[AZEncoder]

This is one of those stumpers. If anybody has any ideas I would be very grateful.

Here's the log file.

[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Input dir: C:\STOS77
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Output file: C:\STOS77\test.avi
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Audio: English
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Subtitles: none
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Codec: XviD
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Started encoding.
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "C:\STOS77\gk_tmp\test.d2v". The system cannot find the file specified
*************************************
[12/27/2003 8:42:25 AM] Job finished.

This is the log file for an encode with AutoGK that I am trying to run. I have a server that is running W2K Advanced server (AMD running at 1GHZ, and big IDE drives) with sp4 and then patched up to the latest. That is where I normally store all of my .VOB files (we'll call it system #1) and then I have a couple of workstations running W2K Professional also patched to sp4 and then up to the latest (we'll call them systems #2 and systems #3) The two workstations run AutoGK flawlessly. They are both running AMD Athlon processors clocked at 1GHz.

The above encode ran on one of the two workstations without a hitch (didn't try the other workstation but suspect that it would work just fine as well).

I was given an old dual processor pentium II running at 450Mhz, (we'll call it system #4). The disk subsystem for system #4 is RAID 5, 6 drives (9GB each) physical disks in the array. I loaded W2K Advanced Server on it and patched it up to the latest and greatest and loaded AutoGK (started with version 0.5) I recieved an identical error message to the one above when system #4 tried to do the encode with the .VOB files living on system #1. At first I thought maybe it was because of a security issue with the system #4 accessing system #1 so I moved the .VOB files onto the local C: drive of system #4, I still get same error message. Then I thought maybe that it was because I was running W2K advanced server as opposed to W2K Professional. So I fdisked system #4 and re-installed W2K professional, but I still get the same error message as you can see above. Then I remembered seeing a message about Hyperthreading being a problem and I thought perhaps dual processors would be a problem as well, so I took one of the processors out. The problem didn't go away, same error message.

Okay, so now I am really really stumped!!!!!!!!! BTW, I know the error message says it can't open the file. I am logged into the system as administrator with all access rights. I look in the designated folder (C:\STOS77\gk_tmp\) and it is empty. If I delete the folder completely it gets recreated but I get the same error message. It's like it can't create the file that is needed by the next step and when the next step that AutoGK initiates looks for the file it can't find it.

If anybody wants a good laugh at my expense I would be happy to be laughed at, Just so I can't get this stupid problem figured out.

Thanks!

AZEncoder

[len0x]

Sounds interesting. Few questions.

- Do you see DVD2AVI working or its just quickly exits?
- Are you able to use provided version of DVD2AVI on those systems manually on those vobs?

It might be internal DVD2AVI problem...

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by len0x

- Do you see DVD2AVI working or its just quickly exits?
- Are you able to use provided version of DVD2AVI on those systems manually on those vobs?

It might be internal DVD2AVI problem... [/B]

It happens very fast but from what I can tell DVD2AVI is loading and exiting very quickly.

pulled up .VOB's manually in DVD2AVI without a problem and chose demux (AC3,MPA,DTS) and then chose save project under the file menu.
Worked fine though a little slow (to be expected on a PII 450Mhz). It created a .d2v file in C:\STOS77\ directory.

Version of DVD2AVI is 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2 (version that ships with AutoGK)

Have tried this with version 0.5 AutoGK and every update up to and including 0.8.

Thanks!

AZEncoder

[r6d2]

@len0x,

It has happened to me several times that subs are not burnt on the output stream. For instance, on Matrix Reloaded, I ripped all extras to different folders. Then I tried to AutoGK them separately.

1. Making of the highway scene: worked OK (congrats on a perfect AutoIVTC)

2. Find the exit: no subs. Audio is out of sync too.
Streams file:

0x20 - Subtitle - Portugues / LBA: 946770 / PTS: 00:00:17.167 / Delay: 17050ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Español / LBA: 943314 / PTS: 00:00:03.887 / Delay: 3770ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 942466 / PTS: 00:00:00.050 / Delay: -66ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 4:3 / LBA: 942454 / PTS: 00:00:00.117 / Delay: 0ms

Log file:

[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Input dir: D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Output file: D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\Encuentra la Salida.avi
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Audio: English
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Subtitles: Español
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Codec: DivX
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Target quality: 67%
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 128Kbps
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Started encoding.
[27-12-2003 12:27:59] Demuxing and indexing.
[27-12-2003 12:28:09] Analyzing source.
[27-12-2003 12:28:09] Writing the following script to D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\ISO Movies\\Matrix Reloaded\\Encuentra la Salida\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\ISO Movies\\Matrix Reloaded\\Encuentra la Salida\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[27-12-2003 12:29:05] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 49,95
[27-12-2003 12:29:05] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 41,53
[27-12-2003 12:29:05] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 18,03
[27-12-2003 12:29:05] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 40,44
[27-12-2003 12:29:05] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[27-12-2003 12:29:06] Found 17661 frames
[27-12-2003 12:29:06] Encoding audio.
[27-12-2003 12:30:30] Indexing subtitles.
[27-12-2003 12:30:30] Writing the following script to D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\VTS_01_0.ifo
D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\Encuentra la Salida
1
0
1 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[27-12-2003 12:30:40] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.
[27-12-2003 12:30:40] Running single pass encoding.
[27-12-2003 12:30:40] Writing the following script to D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\Encuentra la Salida_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")


function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\Encuentra la Salida.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 0.911392405063291)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 0.911392405063291 : 0.888888888888889
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Telecide(order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.0)
Undot()
VobSub("D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\Encuentra la Salida.idx")
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[27-12-2003 12:30:41] Writing the following script to D:\ISO Movies\Matrix Reloaded\Encuentra la Salida\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\ISO Movies\\Matrix Reloaded\\Encuentra la Salida\\gk_tmp\\Encuentra la Salida_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(511,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\ISO Movies\\Matrix Reloaded\\Encuentra la Salida\\gk_tmp\\ENCUENTRA LA SALIDA AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\ISO Movies\\Matrix Reloaded\\Encuentra la Salida\\Encuentra la Salida.avi");
===========================================================
[27-12-2003 12:52:27] Duration was: 21 minutes 46 seconds
[27-12-2003 12:52:27] Speed was: 13,52 fps.
[27-12-2003 12:52:27] Job finished.

[guspasho]

Sorry if this has been asked already before but it's hard to search just one thread (when that thread has 50+ pages!) I was wondering why one cannot get a variable bitrate compression. Maybe it isn't even possible with Xvid/Divx and I'm just confused with audio compression, but thanks for answering nonetheless.

BTW, my few bucks is in the pipe. Thanks for this great software!

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by r6d2
@len0x,

It has happened to me several times that subs are not burnt on the output stream. For instance, on Matrix Reloaded, I ripped all extras to different folders. Then I tried to AutoGK them separately. (...)
[/size]
I dont know what type your dvd is, but maybe it's multiangel, which is a fact wo async subs, or autogk uses cc subs, which also makes some subs async
<- drunken, so don't get my serious ;D, but that's what i first wouldt think of ;D

[manono]

guzpasho-

When you ask about VBR, are you referring to the video or the audio? If video, then it is classic VBR 2-pass encoding. I think you are referring to the audio, though. AutoGK uses Average Bitrate, which is a form of VBR. The default for 1 CD rips is the BeSweet Alt-Preset 128. It will give you a VBR MP3, averaging around 128. If you play the audio in a player that shows the bitrate, such as WinAmp, you'll see how it fluctuates, or varies. But my audio knowledge isn't perhaps all it could be, so if that doesn't answer the question, maybe you can elaborate some more.

[guspasho]

Originally posted by manono
guzpasho-

When you ask about VBR, are you referring to the video or the audio? If video, then it is classic VBR 2-pass encoding. I think you are referring to the audio, though. AutoGK uses Average Bitrate, which is a form of VBR. The default for 1 CD rips is the BeSweet Alt-Preset 128. It will give you a VBR MP3, averaging around 128. If you play the audio in a player that shows the bitrate, such as WinAmp, you'll see how it fluctuates, or varies. But my audio knowledge isn't perhaps all it could be, so if that doesn't answer the question, maybe you can elaborate some more.

I think it does, thanks. I was asking about the video, actually. All I know is that when I play the video in Winamp the bitrate doesn't change, but I hadn't considered ABR. Thanks again.

I'm trying to determine why cartoons like Family Guy and Simpsons suck so bad when encoding. You would THINK that they would be much more compressable, you know? But to get even fair quality for a 22 minute episode you have to set the size to 100 MB, which is comparable to live-action video's compressability.

[manono]

Hi-

But to get even fair quality for a 22 minute episode you have to set the size to 100 MB

I don't think most people would put more than 4 22 minute episodes on a CD, so that would work out to 175 MB or so, depending on the resolution. So what resolution are you using, and what kind of compression percentages is AutoGK giving you? And animation is much more difficult to compress than one might think. One of the problems is the dark lines that outline everything. And you'll often see all kinds of artifacts around them. And another problem is the solid masses of color which can often show as a bunch of blocks of similar colors. One way to improve them is to give them a higher bitrate (i.e., a larger file size).

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
@len0x,

It has happened to me several times that subs are not burnt on the output stream. For instance, on Matrix Reloaded, I ripped all extras to different folders. Then I tried to AutoGK them separately.

1. Making of the highway scene: worked OK (congrats on a perfect AutoIVTC)

2. Find the exit: no subs. Audio is out of sync too.


So, sometimes it finds winrar and sometimes it doesn't ?
Am I right to assume:

- if burnt in subs selected they always burnt in (given that you dealing with first PGC)
- if external subs are selected then sometimes winrar is not found
- in those cases when switching to internal subs causes no subs at all to be displayed

I might now what can be wrong in third case (have to check that).

@All

I'm gonna start using naming convention from DVDDecrypter for Angle & PGC selection, so all those related problems should be gone at some point. (Also looks like DVDDecrypter 3.1.8 changed structure in stream info file for subs, so you might get weird results with that)

[duwde]

Hi len0x,

Before anything, congratulations for GKIF4U (now AutoGK) !!

I've found a issue with hybrid sources (x-files episodes for example, in this log, season 1 - episode 2), the final avi "skip some frames", take a look in the logs (btw, I'm no video expert, so forgive me if I'm completly wrong about this subject) :

[28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 37,25
[28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 80,24
[28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 10,94
[28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 8,82
[28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).

Why don't add a option in the adveced menu, like "What to do if it's Hybrid: ()Auto ()IVTC ()Normal. By normal I mean don't use IVTC and leave the output avi at 29.97fps. The auto option would be safe for begginers.

I know that, as you state clearly in the logs, it's mostly FILM, but the progressive pattern won't look any good in the resulting AVI and I'd rather have a non optinal compression using 29.97, than have this effect of skiping frames.

Yes, I know that I can use GordianKnot (and I do), and that you don't wanna make AutoGK as complex as the original GK, but I think it would make AutoGK even better, and able to generate perfect AVIs, even when using hybrid sources. What do you think about it ?

[manono]

Hi duwde-

Since I had a hand in recommending what to do about hybrid sources, I feel partly responsible for what you're seeing. As you know, hybrids are real hard to make look good in .avi. If it were MPEG2, then you could go ahead and encode it as interlaced for playback on a TV, but with .avis, you can't. Neither of the choices you have are that good. According to that log, you've got about 91% progressive, IVTCable material, and you IVTC that and it looks good. The remaining 9% or so is interlaced, and Decomb's Mode=3 will make it look better than a straight IVTC (not quite as jerky), but the blending it does to make it play more smoothly is far from perfect, and will leave those video portions still slightly jerky, like it's missing frames.

But there are 2 alternatives left if you want to make the whole thing 29.97. One is to use Decomb's Mode=1 (as AutoGK would do if the result were hybrid (mostly VIDEO)). That deinterlaces the video portions, and they'll play reasonably smoothly. But with that remaining 91%, it IVTC's and then adds back another frame by blending together 2 adjacent frames. The result there is that the whole thing is 29.97fps, but 91% of that plays blurry because of the blended frames, and it will also stutter very slightly, because of the added blended frame in every 4 frames. In addition, you take a real quality hit when encoding for the same file size, because you now have 25% more frames than before.

And the other alternative is to deinterlace the whole thing, as you can do in GKnot. For me anyway, that's a really lousy choice, because not only are you deinterlacing the 9% video, but also the other 91% progressive frames. And the end result is not so good, in my opinion. I guess that's what you're doing when you use GKnot for the X-Files, or other hybrid material.

It's a tough call. Personally, I'd rather get 23.976fps, have a higher quality for the same file size, and put up with the slight jerkiness during the video portions. I understand your point of view that you really don't like the "skipping frames". But none of the solutions are really any good. But I can't speak for len0x, and maybe he'll have something to say about it.

I think it would make AutoGK even better, and able to generate perfect AVIs

Better men than you or I have attempted to solve this problem, and I don't think anyone has yet generated perfect .avis. If you search up in the AviSynth forum on this subject, you should find quite a few threads about this subject. Also, the Decomb Help file has more information about Decimate's Mode=1 and Mode=3

[r6d2]

@len0x,

I just finished T3 with 640 width. Output was 640x256. Seems to me that 7 lines were cropped from the source, originally anamorphic 720x357 (black bars cropped).

Is this guess of mine (cropping of 7 lines) correct? if it is, don't you think it may be a little too much? (about 2%)

It certainly gives you the most perfect AR, and precludes some rounding limitations of certain filters, but maybe that idea of encoding little back bars to keep the whole height may be revisited.

What do you think?

[len0x]

Originally posted by manono
It's a tough call. Personally, I'd rather get 23.976fps, have a higher quality for the same file size, and put up with the slight jerkiness during the video portions. I understand your point of view that you really don't like the "skipping frames". But none of the solutions are really any good. But I can't speak for len0x, and maybe he'll have something to say about it.


I think strategy I'm using now is ideal, but implementation can be slightly improved. I mean thresholds for decimate can be tuned to get it working exactly as that statistics' telling you (I'm slowly working on that). After that it will get as good as it gets I think for CFR solution. The only better choice would be VFR in such container as matroska, but I doubt that those files will ever be very compatible with standalones...

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2

It certainly gives you the most perfect AR, and precludes some rounding limitations of certain filters, but maybe that idea of encoding little back bars to keep the whole height may be revisited.


Well, it all comes from the fact that height has to be mod 16.
And it's difficult to keep black bars, coz crop is done automatically via autocrop plugin, so i really don't have much freedom in this process (I supply just AR I want to keep and that's it). And if I'm not mistaken autocrop will never leave black bars, but only can keep certain AR...

P.S. any news on those subs problems of yours ?

[AZEncoder]

Just curious if you have any ideas about the two issues I have run into.

1) forced subtitles issue. Being the nooby that I have not been able to determine whether this is the same issue that R6D2 is asking about. It looks like it is, but I can't tell for sure. If so what additional testing could I do to help sort out the problem?

Here's a link to my description of the forced subtitle issue:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=40&pagenumber=26

Issue #1 Resolved Just had to figure out that the Subtitles identified as Spanish (third set of Spanish subtitles no less) were the right ones for forced subtitles even though they weren't identified as such.

2) file not found error with DVD2AVI via AutoGK, but DVD2AVI works fine standalone on PII 450Mhz dual processor system.
I have since installed it on an additional system that is single processor with W2K SP4 and it works there as well. I have another PII 450Mhz dual processor system. So I will test it on it as well to see what the scoop is. Do you think it could have anything to do with the RAID 5 subsystem? all of the single proc systems are all running on IDE drives.

If any one has any ideas please let me know and I will do what ever testing any one suggests for either of these two issues.

Thanks!

AZEncoder

[r6d2]

Originally posted by len0x
And if I'm not mistaken autocrop will never leave black bars, but only can keep certain AR...
According to the docs(1), there are TopAdd and BottomAdd parameters (default to 0) which let you sort of handle that and keep small black bars. Don't know if they can be negative though.

(1) There is a small bug in AutoCrop docs. The order of parameters is wrong. A fixed doc version is included with FACAR.

But if that does not work as expected, you may try just use log mode, read the AutoCrop.log file (get top and height), and use regular crop afterwards and AddBorders to pad the bottom (or evenly spread the black bars among top and bottom) to have Mod 16 height (I do that in FACAR to support "As Seen on TV" mode).
P.S. any news on those subs problems of yours ?
Sorry, I did not notice you needed more feedback. Rereading your previous post I can only comment that I have WinRAR installed in the usual folder (same registry entry you check) and always get the not detected message.

If I check external subs I get a not detected message and the check button unchecks itself. The .params file is empty and no index file gets created, even though DVD2SVCD finds correctly the subs reading the same VOBs. Tried forced subs only with no luck either.

I thought it might have something to do with preview mode, so I started doing preview always. But the result is the same.

Perhaps it is related to the third case you mention. If you want me to do specific tests please don't hesitate to ask.

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by r6d2

Sorry, I did not notice you needed more feedback. Rereading your previous post I can only comment that I have WinRAR installed in the usual folder (same registry entry you check) and always get the not detected message.

If I check external subs I get a not detected message and the check button unchecks itself. The .params file is empty and no index file gets created, even though DVD2SVCD finds correctly the subs reading the same VOBs. Tried forced subs only with no luck either.

I thought it might have something to do with preview mode, so I started doing preview always. But the result is the same.

Perhaps it is related to the third case you mention. If you want me to do specific tests please don't hesitate to ask. [/B]

I am beginning to feel that the problem you are experiencing with sub's is related to the problem I am having with forced sub's. If you are interested, take a look at my post on the test's I have done.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=40&pagenumber=26

Maybe with both of us testing and providing input len0x can figure out what is going wrong.

AZEncoder

[CeeJay.dk]

I've found a workaround for the bug that prevents AutoGK from finding Winrar for the external subtitles.

The problem is that the Registry key that AutoGK detects is not the path to Winrar but the path to the start-up folder.

Upon installation of Winrar the two are the same , but since Winrar remembers the last used folder and sets it to be the startup folder then this key will quickly change.

The workaround is simple .. open Winrar and browse to the Winrar folder and then close winrar.

Now the startup folder contains the winrar .exe and AutoGK will find Winrar.

You can also make this startup folder setting permanent by editing Winrar's setting , while we wait for Len0x to fix AutoGK and make it detect the correct registry key.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

hiho, using DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 i recognized, that i no more got the "Stream Information.txt", now it has the vob name in front of it, like "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt". So the think is, that AutoGK doesn't recognize the folder as a dvd decrypter ripped one. don't know, if ther's a dvddecrypter option to change...

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
Upon installation of Winrar the two are the same , but since Winrar remembers the last used folder and sets it to be the startup folder then this key will quickly change.


Oops :) Bummer... I'll be switching to uninstall key of winrar then (couldn't find install key so far). Thanks for pointing it out. One down then :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
hiho, using DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 i recognized, that i no more got the "Stream Information.txt", now it has the vob name in front of it, like "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt". So the think is, that AutoGK doesn't recognize the folder as a dvd decrypter ripped one. don't know, if ther's a dvddecrypter option to change...

File was always in the form of "VTS_?? - Stream Information.txt". But in new DVDDecrypter 3.1.8 or higher format was changed indeed (subs basically), I already changed that in AutoGK, but for the time being you have to use 3.1.7...

[Sasa]

Hi len0x,

first, thanks for this awesome tool.

One Problem I am having. I tried to encode HERO DVD to XviD with different quality settings (max, 3cd, 70%), but on my stand alone device Centrum Gemini 330 (http://www.netonnet.de/item.asp?iid=50922) I get a lot of white ripple effects in the picture. For example when there is white text running from bottom to top it looks like the letters are dragged through milk. I don't know how to better explain it. When I do the same encode in DivX it works. So far I haven't had any problems with XviD and the only thing I can conclude from the change log is that you turned on Chroma Optimization by default. I never used that before. On the PC everything looks fine.

I would much rather be using XviD ;) especially after reading doom9's new comparison this morning. The Problem with the DivX clip is that I can not forward or rewind it on my player. Also the first time that happened.

I am very much looking forward to donate for the 1.0 version. Thanks for sharing such a great app with us.

[wertert]

Hi Len0x

Happy new year !

Quick question. A weeks ago there was a question mark over the future of the 'target quality' encode option. ie 1 pass. I understood that it was going to be dropped from the xvid codec. I currently use this option for alot of my encode and go for about 67% quality+ac3 sound. I probably should start using 2 pass if it's on the way out.

wertert

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert
I understood that it was going to be dropped from the xvid codec.

That is yet to be determined. First, XviD 1.0 final is not out yet. Second i will have to look at "zones" settings in it to see if I can fake quality mode with it in case "quality mode" will not appear in the final version.

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
Oops :) Bummer... I'll be switching to uninstall key of winrar then (couldn't find install key so far). Thanks for pointing it out. One down then :)

As I understand you're reading :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe\Path

While you should be reading :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe\@


I exported the section from my registry and it looks like this :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe]
@="C:\\Program Files\\WinRAR\\WinRAR.exe"
"Path"="C:\\Program Files\\WinRAR\\"

Previously "Path" pointed to a different path and it wouldn't work but I'm using the workaround now and so "Path" points to the folder that contains Winrar.exe

Now I have no problems encoding external subtitles .. other than that I'm currently unable to encode the subtitles from one of my DVD rips but I guess that is because I used DVDdecryptor 3.1.8.0 to rip it and as you say it has a slightly different format.

I'll wait until you release a version soon that is compatible with this new format.

External subtitles rocks btw .. Unlike subtitles that are encoded into the movie I can place theese under the moviepicture as God had intended it :)
This way they don't disturb the picture and the feature scales down gracefully as standalones simply leave them be.
I don't care about standalones anyway - I don't own one and neither do anyone I know. In fact I have never seen one and they are only sold in few places.
All the people I know watch Xvid/DivX movies on PC's , either using monitors or TVout.

Though you are going to encode the subtitles into the movie, could it be encoded like DirectVobSub renders it with the Poloygonize option turned ON ?
It looks much better this way , and I believe that this is the way that most subtitles look on the original DVD.

BTW Happy Newyears to all ! :)

Cheers !
- CeeJay :)

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by me

Now I have no problems encoding external subtitles ..

Whoops .. I spoke too soon.

I have just finished a 2 CD encode of "Ciderhouse" with danish subtitles and about 1h 20m into the movie the subtitles disappears.
Up to the end at 2h 00m there are no subtitles.

This flaw is present both in a 1 CD encode I did first and in the unsplit 2 CD encode and the split version.

Shall I post some files to help diagnose the problem ?
If so .. which ?

[CapBoy]

Hi there.

First of all, congratulations for your work len0x :D

I have a problem though, I'm ripping the episodes of Buffy, The Vampire Slayer (seasons 1,2,3) which are interlaced.

I tried to rip those episodes with GordianKnot 0.28.5 with TransMoComp filter, and everything worked out just fine.

But with AutoGKNOT what happens is that the AVI created (and with gordian knot 0.28.8 transmocomp's filter this also happens) has some frame like this:

http://capboy2003.planetaclix.pt/frame2.JPG


I have GordianKnot 0.28.5 and this isn't happening, which is weird because I think TransMoComp filter is the same in both GordianKnot versions.
With AUTOGKNOT I don't have any tought.

If somebody could help me, I would apreciate.

PS: I'm Portuguese, sorry for my bad English.

[JWillE]

Feature Request: Avi input

I recently purchased a standalone player that of course doesn't accept features such as qpel and gmc. I know it isn't recommended to reencode but for a newbie like myself this seems to be the only way to achieve compatibility of some of my backups, in which case it would be nice if AutoGK would accept avi input. Since AutoGK is already tuned for standalone compatibility this would help people like myself salvage those backups. Time would not be of much concern. I don't know if there is a simplier and/or quicker way to do this but AutoGK has great for me on my DVD backups.

Thx for your efforts,

[Wolfman]

Become the first of the First.:( no party how sad

[AZEncoder]

First let me say that I am stoked. I mentioned in an earlier message that AutoGK had inspired me to learn more about the tools and get to the point where I could learn to capitalize on regular "GK". That point in time came today wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!! What a great way to close out the year. Encoded a movie today with GK, it looks great and sounds great. I know that I have a long way to go to learn all of the "deep dive" details, but it feels great to understand the basic usage of the different tools and be able to take off the training wheels of AutoGK. I plan on using AutoGK for a very long time considering it works superbly in 99% of the circumstances.

I have some additional clues in my effort to figure out what is going on with the forced subtitles in "Die Another Day". First I had to figure out what I was doing wrong with VobSub.

Here is what I discovered. If others have enlightenment please comment. manono gave me some tips (thx manono) on how to use VobSub to find forced sub's, well none of the forced sub's showed up in VobSub with the forced sub indicator, instead there was an additional sub that contained nothing but a gray block right before a cell where all of the sub's should be forced. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is this an additional standard way of doing forced sub's?

I will be experimenting with VobSub in order to figure out how to get it encoded correctly.

Thanks for all of the hard work by len0x and all of the other "Tool Wizards"
:thanks:
I hope everyone's 2004 is a rewarding and fun year!!!

AZEncoder

[jdion81]

@len0x

I want to applaud your efforts in making a FoolProof tool for encoding Divx and Xvid videos, I have been trying to learn how to do this regular GK. AutoGK will help me to understand what I am doing with regular GK.

@AZEncoder

I have been working with the Die another Day DVD and I am seeing what you have seen with it. In AutoGK in the subtitle drop-down list I have found that the correct (English Forced Subs) subtitles to use are the third or fourth Spanish subtitles in the list. Now when I do a preview of the video in AutoGK it looks fine and plays the video and Subs fine and in sync. When I run the encode, the resulting video is great and the first few instances where the subs should be are fine. When you get about the middle of the movie the subs are out of sync. Now that I have found the right track anyone know why the subs would be out of sync with AutoGK?


I am using AutoGK version 0.8 on a 1.5 GHz AMD 512 DDR, 100gb drive with WinXP Pro.

[AZEncoder]

@jdion81

You are correct that it is the third set of Spanish subtitles that are really the English forced subtitles. Thanks for pointing that out. I missed that one (major brain cramp). I re-did the encode with AutoGK using the third set of "spanish" subtitles a.k.a. English forced subtitles and it turned out just the way it was supposed to.

Now as far as your suggestion that I might help you figure out how to get the subtitles for the rest of the movie back in synch. I am experimenting but, because of my relative inexperience and newness to the details and intricacies of VobSub and it's re-sync capabilities I don't have an answer yet. Perhaps someone else has enough knowledge that they could shorten both of our learning curves. I will continue to fiddle with it, but it may take a while to figure out.

Originally posted by jdion81
@AZEncoder

I have been working with the Die another Day DVD and I am seeing what you have seen with it. In AutoGK in the subtitle drop-down list I have found that the correct (English Forced Subs) subtitles to use are the third or fourth Spanish subtitles in the list. Now when I do a preview of the video in AutoGK it looks fine and plays the video and Subs fine and in sync. When I run the encode, the resulting video is great and the first few instances where the subs should be are fine. When you get about the middle of the movie the subs are out of sync. Now that I have found the right track anyone know why the subs would be out of sync with AutoGK?

I am using AutoGK version 0.8 on a 1.5 GHz AMD 512 DDR, 100gb drive with WinXP Pro. [/B]

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
And if I'm not mistaken autocrop will never leave black bars,...I just started using AutoGK to encode DVDs that I've authored from my ReplayTV mpeg2 files. The top of my video contains television blanking noise within the black bar (at least that's what I think it is.) Because of this, autocrop retains the top black bar and all the bit-robbing noise. I need to crop 16 pixels down from the top to correct this. Does anyone have any workarounds, ideas, or plans for future AutoGK features that might help me? Maybe the upcoming config file will help.

Thanks len0x! AutoGK is becoming impressively stable and refined very rapidly.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
Though you are going to encode the subtitles into the movie, could it be encoded like DirectVobSub renders it with the Poloygonize option turned ON ?
It looks much better this way , and I believe that this is the way that most subtitles look on the original DVD.


I see no option in idx file to accomplish that...

[len0x]

Originally posted by CapBoy
I have GordianKnot 0.28.5 and this isn't happening, which is weird because I think TransMoComp filter is the same in both GordianKnot versions.
With AUTOGKNOT I don't have any tought.


I assume you're using different version of avisynth for both cases?
Try manually installing 2.5.2/2.5.3.2/2.5.4 alpha and compare results...

[len0x]

Originally posted by JWillE
Feature Request: Avi input


It will take some time to get AutoGK to work on any source (I won't be doing specific AVI support, but rather generic DirectShow support). The problem with AVI-2-AVI reencoding (not conversion) that you have to deal with audio as well (i.e. demux etc). It doesn't really fit into current framework...

[len0x]

Originally posted by AZEncoder

You are correct that it is the third set of Spanish subtitles that are really the English forced subtitles.

I wonder if you can try to rip it with DVDDecrypter 3.1.9 and see if sub streams are correctly recognized ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by calinb
I just started using AutoGK to encode DVDs that I've authored from my ReplayTV mpeg2 files. The top of my video contains television blanking noise within the black bar (at least that's what I think it is.) Because of this, autocrop retains the top black bar and all the bit-robbing noise. I need to crop 16 pixels down from the top to correct this. Does anyone have any workarounds, ideas, or plans for future AutoGK features that might help me? Maybe the upcoming config file will help.


Well thats really tricky thing to do. But for a start you can experiment with threshhold parameter of autocrop plugin. Take *_movie.avs and try playing with the script - may be you can find a certain threshold parameter which allows to do perfect cropping in your case (you need to increase threshold IMO). Then when we have a config file that value can be overwritten...

P.S. is AutoGK being followed at DivX.com forums or as a direct competitor of dr.divx it's not welcome there ? :)

[zerocoolnl]

hi all!

I just ripped The Matrix as test because I get a post on the Dutch forum that there were no subtitles and that is right! I ripped with DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0. AutoGk(0.8) says no subtitles. I think the problem was known, but I just tell it again to be sure! Hope you kan fix it.

Greetz,
Zerocoolnl

[len0x]

Originally posted by zerocoolnl
I think the problem was known, but I just tell it again to be sure! Hope you kan fix it.


It's already fixed, but I can't release anything for another 10 or so days...
Stick to 3.1.7 in the meantime...

[zerocoolnl]

OK, thnx

Zerocoolnl

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
P.S. is AutoGK being followed at DivX.com forums or as a direct competitor of dr.divx it's not welcome there ? :) There's been a little bit of discussion of AutoGK over at the DivX Forums and I think it's all been favorable. I certainly welcome it. I don't really see AutoGK as a direct competitor of Dr. DivX because AutoGK is for DVDs and Dr. DivX is a general purpose encoding ap -- though I realize you could easily morph AutoGK into somthing more general purposed (mpeg2 file input:)).

I view AutoGK as a direct competitor to Recode2 and I'm sure AutoGK is helping DivX stand against that competition, especially given the excellent quality vs. speed of AutoGK. (Looking at doom9's codec comparison screenshots, I think the codec comparison might help too:)

Personally, I see any software or hardware that supports the DivX format as a good thing for DivX--even if it did compete with the Doc. There have been many discussions in the forums of competing DS media players vs. the DivX player and that's been a good thing for DivX too.

Thanks for the autocrop tip. I'll try it and report back. I could use manual crop, but autocrop works very well on the sides.

[dosdan]

I know splitting is not that difficult but if you are aiming at newbies I believe it would be handy to include it as an option for both the Custom Size and Target Quality selections. Perhaps it could be an intelligent selection. As I understand it, custom sizes of 700 MB, 1400 MB & 2100 MB will split automatically. So if these values are selected the Split option is grayed out. Say I can overburn to 713 MB and select 1426 MB or 1420 MB (to allow for keyframe vageries) as a custom size to do a 2 CD job. Then the Split option would be available, defaulting to 700 MB as the initial CD capacity value.

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
Well thats really tricky thing to do. But for a start you can experiment with threshhold parameter of autocrop plugin.If I change the threshold to about 60, it seems to work. Thanks! I haven't figured out a way to "trick" AutoGK into using it so I'll be looking forward to a config file for such settings in the future :).

[Wolfman]

quote "IF you are converting something from mpeg1, 2, any divx codec or variant thereof, and anything other than uncompressed rgb or huffyuv in rgb mode, and not doing any filtering in vitualdub, you should use FAST RE COMPRESS mode."
unquote

Does autoGK use fast recompress or full processing mode ...as fast recompress is supposed to be much faster??

[manono]

Fast Recompress. That's been the standard for DVD conversions for some time now (couple of years, maybe?).

[menaceboy]

really terrific program(*)@!&$(*@&$(!*&$(@!*&$(*@!&$
anyway for my situation i need more options for the audio
i'm doing my first encode with autogk as we speak, and i set the audio
to 64kbps
i'm assuming its stereo
the content i'm encoding only needs mono audio... hope its not too much to ask , lower bitrates, audio output channel selection.

thanks for the amazing (and free) program

[manono]

Hi-

You have a stereo source, and you want mono output? It's not going to happen anytime soon, I don't think. Quite a few of us (including len0x) want to be able to output mono, when there's a dual channel mono source. But it's not quite that easy to do. All the tests I've done with BeSweet with a Stereo AC3 source results in garbage when I try and convert it to mono. I think it depends on BeSweet improving the mono conversion from stereo.

And I'm going to edit your post because of the language. Hope you don't mind. I know, you used it in a good way, as a compliment. :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
But if that does not work as expected, you may try just use log mode, read the AutoCrop.log file (get top and height), and use regular crop afterwards and AddBorders to pad the bottom (or evenly spread the black bars among top and bottom) to have Mod 16 height (I do that in FACAR to support "As Seen on TV" mode).


I very much prefer to do this using AddBorders, but you complicate things a lot (log mode etc). One should be able to make AddBorders on the fly in one AVS script:

- do autocrop
- get height & width of the clip
- calculate AddBorders parameters

So the only difference to current implementation is that AddBorders replaces smartcrop. But I do belive that one should only do that when going for maximum resolution mode. There is no point in doing all this and then resize to lower resolution with black bars :)

P.S. having said all this I still think that this option should not be exposed to newbie user, so this will probably go to the config file (this is gonna be magic file I believe :D )

[menaceboy]

manono
hey your from hawaii, where at? honolulu?
i'm from k-town myself
you dabble in video ? you a a/v guy from highschool or something?
i'll keep complimenting autogk so this post wont be completely off topic

AUTOGK IS FOR XVID AND DIVX AS DVD2SVCD IS FOR SVCDS
BUT BETTER CAUSE ITS SO SEXY

[Takasho]

Hi All,

I have been successfully using Gordian Knot for a couple of years with no problems, must say I'm so pleased you picked up the development. I decided to try out AutoGK on my new machine (no existing GK install or codecs). I downloaded the lastest XVID binary and installed it along with AutoGK 0.80.

I picked my DVD folder, gave it an output filename and hit start. 1Hr later I have a 3.5Mb avi file as the output and this as the last thing in the log:

===========================================================
[31/12/2003 15:01:52] Duration was: 29 minutes 23 seconds
[31/12/2003 15:01:52] Speed was: 85.21 fps.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Floating point division by zero
*************************************
[31/12/2003 15:01:53] Job finished.

Is this just due to the fact the I've used the new XVID codec rather than the bundled one? Or is somthing more sinister going on?

Takasho.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Takasho
Is this just due to the fact the I've used the new XVID codec rather than the bundled one?

Yes, betas of XviD 1.0 are not supported yet...

[Takasho]

Thanks, I'll remove the beta and give it a whirl.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by len0x
One should be able to make AddBorders on the fly in one AVS script
Well thought.
But I do belive that one should only do that when going for maximum resolution mode.
IMHO, it is idealy suited for quality-based archives, were you want to keep as much of the film pixel and resolution possible.

I'm doing some tests ATM with DVD2SVCD and FACAR, to generate 704x480 (crop 8 pixeles by side, keep the height) MPEG2 streams, which as you are aware, is equivalent in geometry to 640x480 with square pixels, with the advantage of being playable both on a standalone and on a PC connected to a projector. ;)
(this is gonna be magic file I believe :D )
LOL. My Harry Potter DVDs ar waiting for it :D

[BloodyRipper]

what about translations of AutoGK?

[zerocoolnl]

If you need somebody for Dutch translations, here I am:)
I gonna translate that guide too, very usefull.

Zerocoolnl

[r6d2]

Spanish in line too :)

[BloodyRipper]

yeah, i can do the polish trans, sure

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
I see no option in idx file to accomplish that...

Hmm .. Neither do I.
I find it odd that DirectVobSub have the option while VobSub does not.
Maybe Gabest can clarify this ?

BTW : Any idea why I'm missing some of the subtitles in "Ciderhouse" ?

[yotsuya-san]

Nessun italiano? I'm here for italian translation.

[guspasho]

Hey I'm back for another question. I have Volume 1 of Family Guy, and I'd like to compress each episode individually so each one is a different file. Is there a better way to do this? It just seems like the most natural way to accomplish it. More pertinantly, how can I rip my DVDs so each episode is ripped (and therefore can be compressed) seperately? I don't know how to do this with DVD Decrypter, and I tried this with SmartRipper but to no avail, AutoGK kept stalling during the demuxing process starting with episode 3. (I have no idea why 1 and 2 worked when 3 and 4 didn't.)

Suggestions? TIA.

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by mikeathome
@len0x:
(...)
Could you pls. add an option to save segmented AVI with custom size setting, size 2000MB. This would perfectly overcome this limitation since the player automatically skips to the next AVI seamlessy, at least with current firmware.Originally posted by Wolfman
You can do this yourself with vdub .. ... sure I did, takes ~10min add'l useless time.(...)
plus what sort of xvid encode NEEDS more than 2gb.. surely your overdoing thigs .. average compression rate about 10:1 (xvid) your source cant be 20GB!! maybe 2gb is limit of the avi container (20bit addressing or such like?) or is 2gb maximum limit of ANY file on dvd, remember std dvd is broken into 1gb chunks (vobs)..AFAIK. ... have you ever done LOTR SE, surely not. It's 3h48min PAL 2 with 448kpbs 6ch AC3 and I WANT IT 704x288 !!!

happy new year to all of you, mike

P.S.
File Size limit of any file on DVD (UDF/ISO bridge) is 4GIG, which is played till the 2Gig size border.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by manono
Hi-

You have a stereo source, and you want mono output? It's not going to happen anytime soon, I don't think. Quite a few of us (including len0x) want to be able to output mono, when there's a dual channel mono source. But it's not quite that easy to do. All the tests I've done with BeSweet with a Stereo AC3 source results in garbage when I try and convert it to mono. I think it depends on BeSweet improving the mono conversion from stereo.



Hi manono, I've seen some dvds which have a mono 1.0 ac3 audio (Allen, Kubrick, Chaplin, Laurel&Hardy, The Deer Hunter), so I think that the best solution to not waste space for audio and gain some for video is to encode, if you choose mp3, the audio in mono. If you select, let's say, 64 kbps in mp3 audio bitrate AND the ac3 is 1.0, AutoGK could output a mono mp3.
Latest versions of BeSweet (the ones included in GK >0.28.5) solved the bug in mp3 mono encodings.
I don't have a dvd of that kind now, and I don't know it AutoGk already does this!

Bye, Yotsuya.

[draGOAn]

This is a longawaited stuff!!!
Thank you very much for it! ;)

[CeeJay.dk]

@len0x:

I suggest changing the Step 3: Select output size dialog to something like this :

.--Step 3: Select output size----.
| .--Selection an option:------. |
| | [2] X [ 80min CD (700MB) ] | |
| | [ Custom Size ] | |
| | _ | |
| | (_) Target Quality [ ]% | |
| '----------------------------' |
'--------------------------------'

This way is just as easy to use as the old one but offers more options for the advanced user.
You can choose exactly how many pieces you want the movie in and how big thoose pieces should be.

I suggest some default choices like theese :

_______________________
[2] X [_1/4 CD (135MB)________]
| 1/3 CD (233MB) |
| 1/2 CD (350MB) |
| 74min CD (650MB) |
| 80min CD (700MB) |
| DVD max filesize (2GB)|
| Unlimited Size |
'-----------------------'


Perhaps the Custom size could also be entered into the dropdown menuitem so it functions as a browser locationbar would.

You could also make the Target Quality option obey the size choosen so that the final file would be split into pieces of that size.

Kind Regards
CeeJay

[G2k]

Yotsuya-san, qui ci sono anch'io che ipoteticamente potrei tradurre, but I'm too damn lazy to do anything ^_^. Gomennasai

[liteoni]

When is XviD 1.0 supporting version going to be available? 1.0 would be a lot faster than koepi's binary from june...

[AZEncoder]

@len0x

This is a minor user interface issue. I love how the settings in the advanced dialog are sticky from one use of AutoGK to the next.

After having to encode the same movie three times in order to get it to the "right" size, (I got distracted, yes, twice, see what kids will do for you). I am hoping that you can see fit to allow the settings in Step 3: Select output size to be sticky as well or you could allow for different profiles to be saved.

I know this may not be on the top of the list but it would be nice.

Thanks for a great product.

AZEncoder

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by liteoni
When is XviD 1.0 supporting version going to be available? 1.0 would be a lot faster than koepi's binary from june...

Len0x said that it needs to be stable first , so I suspect he will look into it when it have reached 1.0 Final.

I'm also looking forward to Xvid 1.0 in AutoGK as it's not only supposed to be faster but should also produce better quality.

[manono]

yatsuya-san-

I've seen some dvds which have a mono 1.0 ac3 audio (Allen, Kubrick, Chaplin, Laurel&Hardy, The Deer Hunter), so I think that the best solution to not waste space for audio and gain some for video is to encode, if you choose mp3, the audio in mono.

I certainly agree with you there. I haven't used AutoGK on any DVDs with DD 1.0 audio, so I'm not positive about this, but I think you'll get a 2 channel MP3 (as you seem to say). The Laurel And Hardy DVD's funny, isn't it?

Latest versions of BeSweet (the ones included in GK >0.28.5) solved the bug in mp3 mono encodings.

It works now? That's good to know. That's something for len0x to think about including now. I didn't switch to the latest BeSweet because DSPguru has removed support for the ac3enc.dll, and I use that sometimes, flawed though it is.

[Ogig]

First of all I'd quickly like to thank len0x for his great tool -- after lurking the board for almost two years it has made me register with Doom9. It has been working nicely for me since the early betas and is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for effort!

Second, allow me to make a small cosmetical suggestion. CeeJay.dk already pointed out some improvements to Step 3, how about changing the title of the section to "Select output quality/size" which fits better IMO. The section could contain two elements, one for size based quality (see CeeJay.dk's sugesstion), and one for quality percentage. I would also remove the "Maximum quality" entry from size based choice as it confuses the noobs and does not fit there (I remember though from reading this thread that it is not the same as 100% quality).

P.S. Is there another way to donate beside Paypal ? If you have a bank account in Europe... ;)

[wertert]

@r6d2

Originally posted by r6d2
Then don't worry about space. Look at the quants with fddshow. Compare the ones from you satisfactory size-based encodes and choose the equivalent percentage from len0x formula: percentage=200/quant for your quality ones.

67% (2/3) is what gets you quant 3, almost perfect.


Thanks for the advice - almost perfect is what I'm after. fddshow seems to give me frame by frame quants of between 2 and 5. Encoding at quality 67% seems to give good results but I seem to hit certain movies which seem to end up very large. ie TIGERLAND PAL 2.6Gb (1.5 hours )! whereas CONTACT PAL 1.6Gb (>2 hours)

I was wondering if you have ever tested with higher quants ie encoding at 65 / 62 %. I have performed a few tests and I can't really tell the difference ( on a 15 inch monitor ). I guess I'm asking (and I have searched !) what quality/quant I could go to and stay 'almost perfect'. Another option is to drop the frame size to say 640 and keep the quality.

Thanks in advance - wert

[manono]

Hi-

Tigerland's one of the famous difficult-to-compress movies. See all the noise in there, the stuff that looks like a pack of mosquitos swarming all over the screen? That's very hard to encode. Didn't r6d2 say a few pages back that at highest quality, Saving Private Ryan came in at over 8 GB? It's twice as long, and at quant 3 might be about twice the size as yours (because about twice as long as Tigerland). Different movies just compress differently.

But his quant 3/67% suggestion is a good one. In general though, the more noise, scratches, nicks, age the source has, the higher you can let the average quant go and still have it look good. Noise hides a lot of faults. In an extreme case such as Tigerland, you could probably let it go down to quant 4/50% and not notice any difference.

[wertert]

@manono

I'm glad you mentioned that tigerland is difficult to encode. I've also got the band of brothers box set so I seem to remember that is quite noisy as well.

I know there are no magic answers but all of my movies encoded at 67% seem to look good. I'm just wondering what would happen if I dropped it to 62% ( 704x? ). Would you really see a difference ? All very subjective i know ...

BTW TIGERLAND encoded at 65% came in at 1.9 Gb so 2% difference reduced the final size by 800MB ! And once again I can't see any difference.....then again i've only got a small screen at the moment.

Have you come across any postings where people have performed quant/percentage testing ? I seem to remember Johny Owl doing something on this a way back.....

thanks again

wert

[manono]

Yeah, Band Of Brothers is like SPR, with the added noise, and the desaturated colors, to give it that old-timey newsreel look. So it's also hard to compress.

I am surprised that you got the filesize down so much though, by changing to 65% from 67%. If all the other settings were the same, I'd say something was screwy somewhere.

jonny's the reigning expert on quality percentage .vs ave quant (and r6d2 in the MPEG2 area), and he's done all kinds of tests. Here are some (6th post from the top):

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62446&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

And the figures depend on how you set up the quality setting. len0x's may be different from the one in that post, I don't know. But that whole thread (started by our friend Tuning, originator of the AutoGK name) is about the things you asked, and is valuable reading.

[wertert]

very interesting. I think you are right about something being screwy. I will rerun the tests as I'm rebuilding my machines today from scratch.....

[jdion81]

@len0x

Mine are a little on the non-existant side but I figure I use your program enough to warrant a sort of thank you, So I have sent you a Thank YOU! AutoGK Rocks!

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by manono
The Laurel And Hardy DVD's funny, isn't it?


I like Keaton and Chaplin better, but I think Stanlio e Ollio (in italian) are one of the funniest couple of the movie history. I'm going to buy at least one of the cheap italian versions on DVD of their films, which do you suggest ;) ? (I've never seen "A chump at Oxford")
I'll use it to see how AutoGK handle those crappy 4:3 old noisy not-remastered movies...:D

Bye, Yotsuya.

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

I'll use it to see how AutoGK handle those crappy 4:3 old noisy not-remastered movies...:D

I have the Aristocats DVD here and it's noisy and 4:3.
AutoGK doesn't handle it too well .. all the noise is too much for the undot filter and it doesn't compress well , being 4:3 only makes this worse.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by manono
But his quant 3/67% suggestion is a good one. In general though, the more noise, scratches, nicks, age the source has, the higher you can let the average quant go and still have it look good.
Alternatively, difficult to compress movies can also be "fixed" to fit a reasonable size by a good convolution 3D filter (like Deen()).

This way you would not sacrifice quant or frame size. ;)

Maybe a good idea would be to trigger that if at comp. test phase len0x finds the movie is one of those. It will surely would be a nice to have for newbies (or even veterans) ;) that get surprised by giant output files.

The drawback is that Deen() reduces speed a lot (maybe 50%), but it is still well suited for a quality based encoding, the matter at hand, since it is only one pass.

[wertert]

Originally posted by manono
I am surprised that you got the filesize down so much though, by changing to 65% from 67%. If all the other settings were the same, I'd say something was screwy somewhere.


Hi there

Rebuilt my machines

encoded tigerland again. Only quality setting changed. Results are

67% quality - 2,688,925,696 test@67.avi
65% quality - 2,033,575,936 test@65.avi

so about 650Mb difference for 2% !

I'm running a 62% quality just to see.

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert

67% quality - 2,688,925,696 test@67.avi
65% quality - 2,033,575,936 test@65.avi


It might be a bug. See, 66% is exactly quant 3, so if I'm doing some wrong rounding either with 65% or 67% then quant might be changed dramatically...

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
It might be a bug. See, 66% is exactly quant 3, so if I'm doing some wrong rounding either with 65% or 67% then quant might be changed dramatically...

I tried 65,66,67 % and 67 is definitely wrong...

*Edit Later* In fact so far 67,68,69,70 % produces exactly the same output file (bit to bit). I checked and codec settings are modified properly, so something fishy going on with xvid itself... Trying 71-75% now...

[wertert]

Originally posted by wertert
67% quality - 2,688,925,696 test@67.avi
65% quality - 2,033,575,936 test@65.avi

so about 650Mb difference for 2% !

I'm running a 62% quality just to see.

just to let you know that same encode at 62% is

1,965,852,672 bytes

which seems more like it.

Unless AUTOGK is doing something special with the codec settings at 67% quality then it looks like the codec is up to something strange.

[rantingotaku]

quick question,

is it possible to use subtitles included on the DVD, as well as custom subtitles to be "burned" onto the video together? (ex. the subs for an intro song, then some custom translation subs? ).

thanks.

[mordant]

Is it possible to select a range for a film...start and finish? Maybe stop DVD2AVI and select a range than continue with AutoGK?

[wertert]

Originally posted by mordant
Is it possible to select a range for a film...start and finish? Maybe stop DVD2AVI and select a range than continue with AutoGK?

Yes - I use dvd2avi to crop off the credits at the end of a movie.

I've never cut off the beginning from a movie. I think you would end up with subtitle sync etc.

wert

[wertert]

Originally posted by len0x
Trying 71-75% now...

Hi Len0x

How are you getting on ? - do you want any more test results from me ? As far as I can see encoding >=67% is giving you an encode which is closer to 90% ( assuming a linear relationship between %age and final size - which is probably a mistake )

[manono]

Hi-

Yeah, it's logarithmic (I think), but above about 70% it's fairly linear. Here's one of jonny's charts which will give you an idea (he did it for compression tests, but the curve should be the same for full encodes):

http://jonny.leffe.dnsalias.com/doom9/test.gif

But you could still be right in saying that quality encodes greater than 67% give ~90% file sizes.

And thanks for discovering the problem, and for testing more to try and pin it down.

[calinb]

It'll be perfect when the autocrop threshold is configurable :)

len0x- just wanted to let you know that I've discovered that I don't actually need to "author" my ReplayTV2000 mpeg files to DVD before encoding with AutoGK. I simply rename the Replay mpeg2 file to VTS_01_1.VOB and copy it into a previous VIDEO_TS subdirectory. Bingo...AutoGK and DVD2AVI do their thing--perfect IVTC 23.976 fps on the output too! Nero Recode can't do this. Way cool!

doh--could a mod please delete this thread? http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68375
I've done this before...gotta fix my trigger finger. Don't know why we don't have permissions to undo our own stupidity. Sorry :scared:

[r6d2]

Originally posted by manono
Yeah, it's logarithmic (I think), but above about 70% it's fairly linear.
Guys, I think something changed at certain time, since when I encoded SPR I tried 50% to 100% in small steps and got a curve just like jonny's.

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
Guys, I think something changed at certain time, since when I encoded SPR I tried 50% to 100% in small steps and got a curve just like jonny's.

I know what was changed:

before I had: min quant was 2, max was ceiling(200/quality), and then xvid percentage quality was calculated.
now I have: min quant is floor(200/quality) and max is ceiling(200/quality) and xvid percentage is calculated

I changed that because I understood only two quantizers are used in quality based mode. But for quality > 66% min and max quant were 2 and 3 and this is still correct, so in fact nothing was changed...
puzzling...

P.S. so far everyting until 78% is the same - I have a large queue (I have job queue already), so testing is easy :)

[yotsuya-san]

Hi all! Just a curiosity...if I encode an avi with AutoGK using the resolution suggested by the comp test (let's say, a 512*XXX resulted by a selection of 1 CD (700 Mb)) at the predicted target quality of that resolution, should I theorethically get a final avi of 700 Mb?

[Wolfman]

yes it should/will come out at your target size..

[AZEncoder]

@len0x

I am completely jealous. I faithfully read new posts in the forum everday hoping that a new release is on the horizon with a Job Queue. I would be happy to help test it :D :D .

AZEncoder

Originally posted by len0x


P.S. . . . . I have a large queue (I have job queue already), so testing is easy :)

[MediaMage]

can´t wait till job queue beta is out!

second donation already planned ;)

[madprofessor]

ok this program is definately HUGE GODLY software already :D :D
imagine what it will eventually be in version 1 :eek: :eek: :cool: :cool:

[jfma]

len0x,

Thank you very much for this incredible tool. Installed it, did my first rip a few days ago and it worked the first time with perfect results! :D

But I have a question for the experts out there. I assumed that MPEG4 based encoders were much more efficient than MPEG2. I encoded my Chicago DVD at "maximum quality(unlimited size)" and kept the original AC3 English track. The original movie is PAL (720x576), has 2 AC3 tracks (~714Mb) + subtitles (~31Mb, I managed to extract them all with VobSub, AutoGK couldn't find them). So, if I take just the MPEG2 video, I've got a bit over 4Gb. The XVID encoded movie has a resolution of 720x384 (66.6% of the original movie) and its size without the AC3 track is 2.5Gb (62% the size of the original movie !!). Only 4.6% improvement?? Shouldn't I expect a better compression ratio even at the highest quality? :confused:

[LenLen]

Great to hear that batch job queues is on the way I was wondering something about other people's results with ripping toon dvd's in autogk... I tried a couple now and the resulting finished avi (xvid) has blocky color artifacts... I'm guessing because the colors aren't true shades of a color or another, or maybe not. Has anyone else had problems getting solid colors when encoding toons? The live motion videos all end up great! Something else I noticed too...(going to double check)... When I use a backup dvd from something like instantcopy, the compressiblity is much higher than with an original with smaller final filesizes, and the picture looks a bit smoother... does transcoding the video help the quality of the divx recompression? I'm going to do a couple of tests on this with real video and toons to see.... Lemme know what you guys know!

LenLen

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi i found to bugs in 0.8
First one is, when hidding abort autogk kills first pass, but then starts the second pass... it need another klick on abort to cancel completely.

Second one is:
in 0.8, when using minimum width maximum width shouldt be 640 as you said, but i've encoded several movies which give me resolutions with 704, hope you'll fix that.


[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Input dir: C:\tmp\DVD\Rips\KNOCKING_ON_HEAVEN_DOOR_VTS_13_PGC1
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Output file: D:\kohd.avi
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Audio: Deutsch
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Subtitles: none
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Codec: XviD
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Target size: 700Mb
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 512 pixels
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 160Kbps
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Started encoding.
[11.01.2004 15:52:05] Demuxing and indexing.
[11.01.2004 15:56:00] Analyzing source.
[11.01.2004 15:56:00] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[11.01.2004 16:04:52] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.84
[11.01.2004 16:04:52] Source is considered to be progressive.
[11.01.2004 16:04:52] Found 128777 frames
[11.01.2004 16:04:52] Encoding audio.
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Audio size: 95,817,824 bytes (91.38 Mb)
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Overhead: 5,151,104 bytes (4.91 Mb)
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Video size: 633,034,272 bytes (603.71 Mb)
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Running compressibility test.
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\kohd_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\gk_tmp\kohd.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[11.01.2004 16:13:11] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\gk_tmp\\kohd_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\gk_tmp\\kohd_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Duration was: 7 minutes 6 seconds
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Speed was: 15.09 fps.
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Compressibility percentage is: 101.02
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Chosen resolution is: 704x304 ( AR: 2.32 )
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Predicted comptest value is: 82.17
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Running first pass.
[11.01.2004 16:20:18] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\kohd_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\gk_tmp\kohd.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[11.01.2004 16:20:19] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\gk_tmp\\kohd_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\kohd.avi");
===========================================================
[11.01.2004 16:22:31] Duration was: 2 minutes 12 seconds
[11.01.2004 16:22:31] Speed was: 970.72 fps.
[11.01.2004 16:22:31] Expected quality of first pass size: 5800.77
[11.01.2004 16:22:31] Running second pass.
[11.01.2004 16:22:31] Writing the following script to D:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\gk_tmp\\kohd_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\gk_tmp\\OGMX-KOHD AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\kohd.avi");
===========================================================
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Job aborted
*************************************
[11.01.2004 16:22:36] Job finished.


Cancel bug in and width is 704 insteat of 640

[len0x]

I can't reproduce first bug since execution is changed quite a lot for job queue feature and I expect lots of other bugz instead :)

Second bug it's not a bug - you selected _minimal_ width, meaning that it can be anything above that. 640 chosen for comp test and since it was more that 100% resolution its increased to 704. Nothing wrong with that...

[GizmoDerMokwai]

thought you set max. width to 640 for min. width mode...

[GizmoDerMokwai]

0.8

- fixed problem when extrenal subs are selected, but no sub stream is chosen
- tray menu improved
- updated tutorial
- maximum width of "minimal width" mode is now 640 instead of 720


thought it 'cause of that...

[rantingotaku]

I absolutely love this program, I have had zero issues so far, and all the encodes are amazing, not to mention when I try to do xvid in standard GK, it never works (gives the "bad or corrupt video, error -100, or something like that).

I have no clue how to make avisynth scripts... tried and failed many times, can almost drown in all the options, and it seems like the only way to do what I need...

is it possible to stop autoGK as it starts the first pass, and use the comp test, audio/resolution/subtitle etc options in VDubmod? Mostly because I want to add custom subtitles into the video, as well as the forced subs.

so far I've only been able to do the subtitles by converting the original dvd ones into an .ssa format, and manually adding my own subs in, but I need the avi file completed already (using autoGK), so when I re-save the file, it loses too much quality.

sorry for being so erratic in format. (video I am using is .hack//sign, all eps)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by LenLen
Great to hear that batch job queues is on the way I was wondering something about other people's results with ripping toon dvd's in autogk... I tried a couple now and the resulting finished avi (xvid) has blocky color artifacts... I'm guessing because the colors aren't true shades of a color or another, or maybe not. Has anyone else had problems getting solid colors when encoding toons? The live motion videos all end up great! Something else I noticed too...(going to double check)... When I use a backup dvd from something like instantcopy, the compressiblity is much higher than with an original with smaller final filesizes, and the picture looks a bit smoother... does transcoding the video help the quality of the divx recompression? I'm going to do a couple of tests on this with real video and toons to see.... Lemme know what you guys know!

LenLen

I ripped The Simpsons Season 2 and SpongeBob Season 1 DVDs (22min/175MB/MP3 128VBR) without any color artifacts or blocky scenes...

[wertert]

I am trying to encode 'the_eye' PAL.

Can you see any reason why autoGK can't see the english subtitles.

0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 23443 / PTS: 00:01:47.080 / Delay: 106800ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Chinese / LBA: 19 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

after selecting the source directory no subtitle options appear in 'subtitles track'. It still only has 'No subtitles' Only audio is Chinese AC3 2ch

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
P.S. having said all this I still think that this option should not be exposed to newbie user, so this will probably go to the config file (this is gonna be magic file I believe :D )

Speaking of options to expose newbies to... I would very much like to see the ability to use Ogg audio compression and muxing into OGM containers as opposed to MP3/AVI, which is currently the only viable option for single CD encodes. I can't see this as being too big a deal, since you're already using BeSweet, Oggmachine is just another modified version of BeSweet that could be included (or maybe substituted?), and VDmod should be able to mux to OGM.

Any chance of getting this added in a future release? (Notwithstanding that I *do* realize you're trying to maintain standardization for compatibility with standalone players, and this *probably* doesn't fit in that category at the current time; However, it would still be a huge feature to add, since users could then dedicate only 1/2 as much space to their audio without sacrificing any quality, making for visibly better encodes).

Cheers,
The REAL Joe

[jonny]

Originally posted by len0x:
P.S. having said all this I still think that this option should not be exposed to newbie user, so this will probably go to the config file (this is gonna be magic file I believe :D )

You'll be probably required to write an interface to modify the config file :D

[calinb]

While I'm waiting for a autocrop threshold configuration feature, I decided to play around a bit more with some mpeg2 files from my ReplayTV. I've got a pretty good encoding "flow" going now:

1. Rename mpeg2 file to VTS_01_1.VOB and copy to dummy VIDEO_TS subdirectory.
2. Run AutoGK on this dummy "DVD" to the point it launches DVD2AVI.
3. Right click in taskbar and "restore" DVD2AVI.
4. Hit esc key then right or left arrow to enable preview.
5. Mark in and out using DVD2AVI to trim the mpeg file as desired.
6. Hit F4 key to save over the previous partial (barely started) project file. Optional: delete old .mpa file in save window before saving project file to avoid later confusion.
7. Let AutoGK continue until 1st pass encoding starts.
8. Abort AutoGK
9. Start GKnot.
10. Load AutoGK *_movie.avs file.
11. Set GKnot file/bitrate target, select mp3 file, etc.
12. Save and encode, but edit / paste *_movie.avs contents into GKnot .avs file (or rename/replace before encoding) and change autocrop threshold from 35 to 60 to accurately crop blanking noise from top.
13. Select mp3 file and "mux only". Set codec parameters as desired.
14. Add to GKnot encoding queue or run.

Even though this wasn't how len0x intended AutoGK to be used, it still saves me a ton of work over a pure GKnot encoding flow. The AutoGK analysis, comp test, ivtc, etc. is excellent. Furthermore, it doesn't take very long to run several AutoGK jobs to the point the 1st pass starts. Save them all up in different folders and then batch them all in GKnot!

I've yet to find a perfect encoding ap for my ReplayTV files (pefect cropping, trimming, ivtc >> 23.976 fps output, 4GB+ filesize capability, etc.) Previously, only Gknot could produce perfect output with relative ease. Now I've found a way to make it even easier with AutoGK. Thanks again len0x :)

[wertert]

Originally posted by wertert
I am trying to encode 'the_eye' PAL.

Can you see any reason why autoGK can't see the english subtitles.

0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 23443 / PTS: 00:01:47.080 / Delay: 106800ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Chinese / LBA: 19 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

after selecting the source directory no subtitle options appear in 'subtitles track'. It still only has 'No subtitles' Only audio is Chinese AC3 2ch

update

if I edit the steams list to

0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 23443 / PTS: 00:01:47.080 / Delay: 106800ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / Chinese / LBA: 19 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

ie drop the '- [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox]'

it works. wrong version of dvddecrypt I guess. (3.1.9.0)

[len0x]

OK, finally something to play with.
It's really alpha for two reasons:

- execution was changed due to the job queue (I still will be working on a gui a bit + need new icons there), and I already know some bugs there
- new version of Avisynth, VDubMod, BeSweet packaged (not compulsory though). We need to test them out for stable release.

[Sharktooth]

When opening AUTOGK 0.85 the GUI background is not displayed correctly.

Look HERE (http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/AutoGK085.png)

My config:
Asus A7V600 with 512MB PC3200
Athlon 3200+
Nvidia GeForce3 Ti500 with ForceWare 53.03
WindowsXP PRO

[wertert]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Look HERE (http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/AutoGK085.png)


and HERE (http://perfectmotion.co.uk/strange.gif). seems to grab whatever graphics lie behind the autoGK gui and uses them instead of the normal gui graphics. This occurs then the app is first started or minimized then maximized.

jobs stuff looks really great !

Did you get anywhere with the quality based >67% problem ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert
and HERE (http://perfectmotion.co.uk/strange.gif). seems to grab whatever graphics lie behind the autoGK gui and uses them instead of the normal gui graphics. This occurs then the app is first started or minimized then maximized.


I have no idea what's happening...

Originally posted by wertert

Did you get anywhere with the quality based >67% problem ?

Not yet... still have to check that... (My test shows that next time size changed was 81% and then again the same size)

[Sharktooth]

The problem seems to be the background of the round boxes ("Step x").
Maybe using another kind of control could fix it.

[Christos]

Originally posted by wertert
When opening AUTOGK 0.85 the GUI background is not displayed correctly.

Look HERE (http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/AutoGK085.png)

My config:
Asus A7V600 with 512MB PC3200
Athlon 3200+
Nvidia GeForce3 Ti500 with ForceWare 53.03
WindowsXP PRO
I have the same problem and I too have an Nvidia GeForce Graphics Card with 53.03 ForceWare Drivers on WinXP pro.
wertert what do u have?
Maybe the drivers are to blame?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Christos

Maybe the drivers are to blame?

no, XP schemes. I don't use it and don't have the problem, but when I switched it on, then yes. I still don't understand what was changed though...

[rantingotaku]

all hail Len0x! :D well, the job queue feature just made an otherwise shitty day a good one! Of course, now, I'm not going to see the light of day for a week, going to queue up the dozen or so dvd's sitting on my HD.

great work!

[Christos]

Originally posted by len0x
no, XP schemes. I don't use it and don't have the problem, but when I switched it on, then yes. I still don't understand what was changed though...

You mean XP themes... :)
well, I dont mind turning them off AutoGk with jobs queue is much better than any lousy XP theme ;)

Once again THANK YOU len0x

[AZEncoder]

Started playing with .85a Looks great. Doing some encoding testing on two different systems.

Noticed a couple of things. Entered an item in the job queue then exited AutoGK. Fired up AutoGK again and items in queue were no longer there. Not sure whether the queue is intended to be persistent or not.

:thanks: Absolutely awesome that you can add job's to the queue after you have started your first encode going.

Thanks for the update!!!!

AZEncoder

[Sasa]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
Of course, now, I'm not going to see the light of day for a week, going to queue up the dozen or so dvd's sitting on my HD.

I don't understand ... the queue will enable you to see the light again ;) Once you queued em all up your presence will no longer be required and you can go out. I figure you were only excited like the rest of the people here ;)

[len0x]

I found and fixed transparency problem. No other changes though.

P.S. Queue is not supposed to be persistent (yet may be).

[len0x]

I think I didn't stress that enough in the history: You should enable "include PGC and ANGLE in file names" in DVDDecrypters IFO mode options, so that you won't have any probs with subtitles (and please use latest DVDDecrypter which was suppose to improve subtitles detection a lot).

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by Sasa
I don't understand ... the queue will enable you to see the light again ;) Once you queued em all up your presence will no longer be required and you can go out. I figure you were only excited like the rest of the people here ;)

oh you got that right! excited is an understatement... no more waking up at 3am to queue up the next encode :p

I'll be even happier when/if queue can be saved, especially if the power goes out, or you blow a circuit (as I often do).

[AZEncoder]

Definately love the job queue. Testing it on three different workstations. Got a server on the back end that I dump all of the files to and then queue up the three workstations to crank all night long, one after another.

Ok, so I ran into another "nice to have" certainly not critical but definately nice to have especially when you have a number of jobs in the queue. It would be really nice to be able to right mouse click on the jobs in the queue and have a info box pop up that shows all of the details of the queued job you right clicked on (source directory, target directory, target size, advanced options, etc., etc.) This could also be implmented as bubble help. A bubble could appear with the info in it without even right mouse clicking when you fly the mouse over each item in the queue.

Definately not telling you I don't like your cherry pie len0x. I love the cherry (AutoGK) pie. I get a bonus at the end of the month. I will be forwarding another pie payment the first week in February.

AZEncoder

P.S. In my feeble attempt to be of some use, I created icons for the up, down and del buttons for the queue. I don't know whether you have any interest in them. Basic, nice looking and functional (IMHO :D ). where (and how) should I upload them or should I upload them at all? ;)

[len0x]

Originally posted by AZEncoder
P.S. In my feeble attempt to be of some use, I created icons for the up, down and del buttons for the queue. I don't know whether you have any interest in them. Basic, nice looking and functional (IMHO :D ). where (and how) should I upload them or should I upload them at all? ;)

you can mail me to the email from about window :)

P.S. I'll look a bit later into how display info about the job.

[CCoug83]

Wow! Honestly, WOW! That's all I have to say. It's getting better with every version. The que is GREAT!

Two suggestions. First, my pathnames for my files are usually pretty long so it would be great if you could add a horizontal scroll bar to the que so I can actually see which files I have on que. Second, (this is if you decide against the horizontal scrool bar because it makes it look more cluttered), I think it would be better if the que and status windows were on top of eachother rather than side by side.

[yotsuya-san]

Job queue? Who cares...;) :D
My 1 film encodings last about 14-16 hours :rolleyes:
A new pc is in my queue list :)

[btothec2]

Yea, 14 - 16 hours means you need a new computer ASAP. : ) Brings up a question that I have been wondering about, how many average fps are you guys getting out there? Depending on which drive I am coming from and going to, I have seen up to 75fps. My machine is a dual Athlon 1.6 gig and getting the best speed is from the 15k Cheetah scsi HD. And this is using xvid of course. Just wondering what everyone else is getting.

B

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
Job queue? Who cares...;) :D


Eh, I forgot to say that with a 15 Gigs hard disk is difficult to find some space for only ONE film (and its avi)...

[jdion81]

Woohoo! Job Queue. Now all I need is drive space.

@Len0x

I don't know what your to do list looks like but maybe a neat feature might be that the textboxes that list the output directory could be directly editable and not clear when you change input directory. I this might help when queing several jobs to run. You could just change a number at the end of the file name and click "add job". Regardless AutoGK rules and has made me more confident in using the individual tools it uses.

[Wolfman]

My suggestions (some of which may already be in place)

change bubble text of add job to "add job to job queue"
change bubble text of start to "start processing job queue"

add encode finished message in log file when each encode is finished
add job queue finished message in log file when job queue is finished
release output file when each encode is finished, even if autogk is still active
Check that output file names are different (or add some suffix letter if they are, with message in log file)
persistent job queue (with option to clear it on start up of autogk)

Sound seems louder now (waaahaay!) . ALso maybe there should be a wizard/scribe to go thru the options and give people some very broad hints about what to expect eg compression ratio's (90-110mins fitting into 700mb, 256kbs mp3 is hiquality whereas 96kbs mp3 is low quality .. why to use divx or xvid..standalone compatibility (only divx ATM). Tell people they can add another job even when one is already running,. as most programs cant do this, so people may not expect it. :)

Future suggestions...(very speculative)
Maybe add an option to fire up nero5.5 with output file ready to burn?? or some other free burning software :D

also "I have seen up to 75fps" on an 1.6 athlon ?? as none of the programs will take advantage of dual cpu.. not realistic.:rolleyes:

[btothec2]

Originally posted by Wolfman

also "I have seen up to 75fps" on an 1.6 athlon ?? as none of the programs will take advantage of dual cpu.. not realistic.:rolleyes: [/B]

Actually virtualdubmod and xvid put both processors at around 96- 98% when I am encoding with AutoGK, and when I used vidomi (for a very short time before AutoGK came out) it used 100% of both processors. Werid huh :rolleyes: I can grab a screen shot if you wish?

B

[btothec2]

I grabbed a screen shot anyways. Maybe I am reading the wrong thing here.
check it out (http://www.btothec.com/fps.jpg)

[madprofessor]

Originally posted by len0x
I think I didn't stress that enough in the history: You should enable "include PGC and ANGLE in file names" in DVDDecrypters IFO mode options, so that you won't have any probs with subtitles (and please use latest DVDDecrypter which was suppose to improve subtitles detection a lot).

Yeah i kinda need to search for this post of yours to find out how auto subs are enabled in that situtation. maybe you need to say that in the first post. G R E A T J O B !!!
i'm testing it roughly right now :D

EDIT: nope. it doesn't work for me. i still need to make the custom subs settings file for it to get the subs.
note that what i did was update autogk to 0.86, update dvd decrypter to 3.1.9.0 and choose ifo mode and tick the pgs and angle in file names. offcourse i ripped again the episode :)

[rantingotaku]

I don't know if it's available or not (either in the program or a log file etc)... is there a way to see the exact settings autoGK used for xvid, so I could write them down to use in other apps?

outstanding work so far, except for latest xvid support (I know, I know, when it's stable) I see no other things that need to be done.. it's just so perfect!

[CCoug83]

Also codec control would be a great feature in there somewhere. Just so you can change the rip speed of the first and second passes to obtain better quality since it looks as though it uses standard for both passes.

[satfabio]

Hello there,

I updated AGK to 0.86 version but when the movie is finish I have an error (ntdll).
I use divx 5.02 pro 100% in target quality, ac3 and 720 of fixed width.
But the movies is perfect....
I don't know what is the problem, because the crash show on 2 different PC.

Thanks in advance.
Paul

[len0x]

Originally posted by madprofessor
EDIT: nope. it doesn't work for me. i still need to make the custom subs settings file for it to get the subs.
note that what i did was update autogk to 0.86, update dvd decrypter to 3.1.9.0 and choose ifo mode and tick the pgs and angle in file names. offcourse i ripped again the episode :)

can you post the name of the ifo files in the dir and contents of vobsub.params for both cases (with and without override file).

[len0x]

Originally posted by jdion81
maybe a neat feature might be that the textboxes that list the output directory could be directly editable and not clear when you change input directory. I this might help when queing several jobs to run.

it could be a real bummer if you forget to change the name of the file and everything will be overwritten :) That is why I explicitly clear output file name...

[doubleJ]

This may be out of the context of this thread, but...
I did an encode with subtitles using the "external sub" option and it gave me a *.sub and *.idx. When I play with Media Player Classic, or either Windows Media Players, DirectVobSub is loaded and shows "English" and "Show Subtitles" but I never see subtitles.
Am I doing something wrong or should I be using a different player?
I've also tried renaming the .sub to .srt and .ssa as I've seen with some other programs and when renamed, DirectVobSub doesn't automatically start, so I guess that's wrong, too.
JJ

Edit...
Ok, I'm an idiot...
I didn't realize that you have to open DirectVobSub and load the .idx file. I saw something new down in the systray.
I'm sorry.
Hehehe...
JJ

[xistan]

doubleJ: I think you could make your life a little easier by (part from reading the docs:) ) using the same name on your .idx/.sub files as on your .avi-file. (movie.avi -> movie.idx/movie.sub). If you use that method DirectVobSub should fire up automatically choosing the subtitlefiles for you.

/C

[wertert]

ok i've searched and searched and I can't get my external subs to work. It's complaing about winrar (can't find)and switches to internal subs.

I've found a couple of posts that state that you need to fire up winrar. do a 'browse to folder' to the winrar install directory then close winrar.

I've checked through the registry and things look ok.

I am using winrar 3.20 ( 40 day trail ) installed in C:\program files\winrar

Thanks in advance

[jdion81]

Originally posted by len0x
That is why I explicitly clear output file name...
What about if the output file button is not clicked then AutoGK appends the current file name with a number. eg the current file name is freakyfriday.avi and the input directory or other encode options change the output file name is changed to freakyfriday_1.avi But if none of the options have changed then a warning is displayed when the start button is click eg "You have already ran this encode, running again will overwrite your previous encode"

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert
ok i've searched and searched and I can't get my external subs to work. It's complaing about winrar (can't find)and switches to internal subs.


is this still happening with version 0.86 ?

[doubleJ]

xistan...
They are the same. But for some reason, it was showing the .avi instead of the .idx.
JJ

[MediaMage]

successfully had a 4-movie-job-queue night
great job lennox
and when i found my paypal pass again you´ll get another donation ;) the Euro is that strong that you´ll get a nice bonus from the exchange-course.


money on the way ;)
have a nice dinner once again!

[mgargett]

I was thinking about another feature for AutoGK. Perhaps being able to open MPEG2 streams directly (say... from a ReplayTV capture?) and have them demuxed of their audio and processed?

[wertherman]

I don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but if explorer crashes and gets restarted and you have the program minimized to the tray, there is then no way of getting the window back again (other than to use external window hiding/showing applications).

Can you either make it so that it adds itself to the tray again when explorer restarts, or alternatively (and no doubt easier), make it so that the window is made visible if the program is reran when already running (so all you need to do to get the window back on an explorer crash is to rerun the program again).

[AZEncoder]

I was out of town on business for a couple of Days (left early Wednesday morning and got home Thursday afternoon). I figured that with being out of town for two days that would be an optimal time for the queue to get a workout. Well, I had a strange thing happen, I had one workstation that had 6 TV episodes queued and it worked without a problem. I had another workstation that had 2 movies queued and it did the first one fine, but when it started the second one it fired up DVD2AVI and just sat there. I saw it when I got home today and wondered if the system was locked up, but it wasn't and so out of curiosity I clicked on the file menu (in DVD2AVI) chose open and it opened to the correct directory and I chose the VOB's and chose ok and DVD2AVI started processing. It is still processing so I won't know till later if it continues through and processes everything ok. I had another workstation and it did the exact same thing only it had 3 movies in it's queue. It did the first two fine and stopped in exactly the same place on the third, having loaded DVD2AVI, but not processing any VOB files. I opened th VOB's and it is currently also processing the final movie in it's queue. Anybody else experience anything like this. It is strange that it in both cases it did all but the last entry in the queue and then it stalled as if all of the parameters weren't being passed to DVD2AVI.

AZEncoder-

<--- Edit --->

Well as I mentioned above I started DVD2AVI doing its thing (picked the VOB files, etc.) and then left it. On both machines DVD2AVI did its part of the bargain and AutoGK picked up where they left off and recovered like nothing is wrong. It executed BeSweet and then VDub and they are both encoding as I add/edit this message. I am completely stumped. The only thing I can think of is that somehow AutoGK didn't pass part of the parameters to DVD2AVI. :confused: :confused:

[madprofessor]

Originally posted by len0x
can you post the name of the ifo files in the dir and contents of vobsub.params for both cases (with and without override file).

heeeeeeey i see what happened.... u are like a magician that made it go away as soon as i said its wrong :D :D :D

:scared: ok i think last night i was to sleepy and got it wrong
because IT IS DEFINATELY WORKING LIKE A CHARM NOW!

i am so sry to post wrong results:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

this is just great again my congrats. the queue rocks.
i had my 14 year old sister switch over the episodes when i was off and believe me she was the lousiest queuer in the world :D
the queue system is way better and worked for me perfectly.

about the suggestions the visual stuff(buttons) could be worked out for sure and maybe the program needs to be more solid (avisynth dvd2avi...) yeah those deserve the credit but it would be more tidy as a whole. And the dvddecrypter options on a welcome sceen? :P kidin.

sry about the large post

[CCoug83]

don't know if anybody has mentioned this, but if explorer crashes and gets restarted and you have the program minimized to the tray, there is then no way of getting the window back again (other than to use external window hiding/showing applications).

I had this same problem in GK and AutoGK ever since the tray icon option was added. The only solution as of now is to restart the computer. Luckily explorer doesn't crash that often for me or it'd be a real pain. It would be nice if tere were a way to get it back.

[jdion81]

Originally posted by CCoug83
I had this same problem in GK and AutoGK ever since the tray icon option was added. The only solution as of now is to restart the computer. Luckily explorer doesn't crash that often for me or it'd be a real pain. It would be nice if tere were a way to get it back.

I am assuming that when the program is minimized the form is hidden and this is why when the icon is lost from the systray it can not be restored. What about an option in the program "minimize to tray" could be a check box or and option when the title bar is right clicked.

[rantingotaku]

I have yet to see this error... I always minimize it, and it comes back when I want. (XP Pro).

I am assuming you're referring to the AutoGK program and not vdub or dvd2avi

[jdion81]

The issue is that if you have autogk running and minmized (to the system tray) and explorer crashes for some reason (which a lot of times causes programs in the systray to dissappear) AutoGK may not be able to be restored.

[MindlessOath]

i have that same problem too.. always crashing the winXP pro/explorer. its really annoying, to get things back i usually have to click the program's shortcut icons again and it comes back up... like with kaz** lite etc. but it just loads a whole new autoGK.. this needs to be fixed i guess.

[wertert]

Originally posted by len0x
is this still happening with version 0.86 ?

No it's working fine and I am being incredibly stupid. Sorry to waste your time. I think I better make a donation ... ;-)

[((( atom )))]

wow len0x!

your app is developing fast, or better: you are developping it fast..

and it is good. today i compared a rip i made really carefull about a year or so ago and autogk simply did it slightly better. of course, xvid has improved in that time, but your app simply does rips with reliably good quality!

especially since there now is a job-queue, i would love to have a feature to automatically take care of a second audio-track, so i wouldn't have to encode and mux it seperately anymore. :)
would it be a major hassle to implement this?

[Aqa]

First, I would like to congratulate Lenox on this mighty fine peace of work!

I’ve been using the program quite frequently although I must admit that GK is still my favorite, I just hope Lenox will find the time to keep working on the further development of GK, as well as developing AutoGK, even though I can imagine that its gonna be tough.

Anyway I haven’t posted here before because I’ve never really had any problems, that weren’t already answered here or fixed even before I got the time to ask, so this is a first and it’s not even my problem!

What it is, is that I gave the program to one of my friends a couple of weeks ago (he does not have any internet) and he has been having the same problem every time he uses it, the good old “.Audio and overhead size is more than target video size !” problem! Which I thought had been recognized and fixed way back, we updated to 0.86 Alpha but the problem still insists.

Any help would be deeply appreciated Thanks.

LOG

[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Input dir: D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Output file: D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious\2 fast 2 furious.avi
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Audio: English
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Subtitles: Greek
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Codec: DivX
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Target size: 700Mb
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 112Kbps
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Started encoding.
[16/1/2004 1:41:43 ðì] Demuxing and indexing.
[16/1/2004 1:45:17 ðì] Analyzing source.
[16/1/2004 1:45:17 ðì] Writing the following script to D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\movies\\2 fast 2 furious\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\movies\\2 fast 2 furious\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Source is considered to be progressive.
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Found 154756 frames
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Audio is not found.
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Indexing subtitles.
[16/1/2004 1:51:29 ðì] Writing the following script to D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious\vts_01_0.ifo
D:\movies\2 fast 2 furious\gk_tmp\2 fast 2 furious
1
0
3 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[16/1/2004 1:54:19 ðì] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.
[16/1/2004 1:54:19 ðì] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[16/1/2004 1:54:19 ðì] Overhead: 9,984,640 bytes (9.52 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[16/1/2004 1:54:19 ðì] Job finished.

[len0x]

Log clearly states that audio was not found after demuxing or was demuxed improperly. What kind of audio track is that and which file DVD2AVI produces in gk_tmp folder ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by AZEncoder
The only thing I can think of is that somehow AutoGK didn't pass part of the parameters to DVD2AVI. :confused: :confused:

this may happen if path contains a special character which DVD2AVI couldn't deal with from command line...

[wertert]

@len0x

something you may want to put on the AutoGK radar for the future. Many people I know are converting movies to run on pocket pc ( typically divx + mp3 sound ). It seem to me that autogk could easily be used for this.

A full length movie will usually fit on a 256Mb SD card with a video bit rate of about 200-220 Kbps and the audio at 24000 Hz, 32kbps Mono. The available screen is normally 320x240 so a widescreen frame normally sits are 320x144 or 320x160

Older palmtops start to drop frames during playback if the video bit rate goes over about 260. New ipaqs etc can happily play at higher bitrates.

So basically most of this is already in AutoGK. You would probably want to add a 32 kbps setting in the MP3 config and convert to mono but that would be it.

The job queue is superb BTW.

[Aqa]

Originally posted by len0x
Log clearly states that audio was not found after demuxing or was demuxed improperly. What kind of audio track is that and which file DVD2AVI produces in gk_tmp folder ?

Ill look into that and get the answers to u asap!

Thanks

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by len0x
this may happen if path contains a special character which DVD2AVI couldn't deal with from command line...

Hmmmmm . . . I don't think there were any special characters in the path. . . . I will do some more testing and keep you posted!

AZEncoder

[lilian2k3]

i am intersted to know how I can rip the dts soundtrack...I mean in AutoGK�C it can select the dts sountrack,but with that selected, no way to click Start!:(

[len0x]

Originally posted by lilian2k3
i am intersted to know how I can rip the dts soundtrack...I mean in AutoGK�C it can select the dts sountrack,but with that selected, no way to click Start!:(

DTS transcoding is not possible in AutoGK...

[rantingotaku]

just out of curiosity...

when/if the new xvid becomes a stable release, how will auto GK detect if it's an animated or live movie and enable 'cartoon mode'?

I'm guessing a checkbox in the advance tab

[CCoug83]

I am more of a DIVX over XVID kinda person purely for compatibility issues, but this post intrigued me.

how will auto GK detect if it's an animated or live movie and enable 'cartoon mode'?

What exactly is "cartoon mode"? Does this produce much higher quality than using Divx on cartoons? The panning scenes in cartoons are the biggest problem I have when ripping. Does Xvid in cartoon mode solve this?

[manono]

Hi-

The panning scenes in cartoons are the biggest problem I have when ripping.

What are you asking about? The slight jerkiness during a panning scene of a cartoon or anime? If so, then that's a result of cartoons/anime frequently being drawn at 8 or 12fps. If it's something else, then here's a discussion of what cartoon mode does:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65938&highlight=cartoon+mode

[MediaMage]

a friend of mine found a mini bug ;)
"add job"-button-hint is the same as "start"-button-hint

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by manono
Hi-

The panning scenes in cartoons are the biggest problem I have when ripping.

What are you asking about? The slight jerkiness during a panning scene of a cartoon or anime? If so, then that's a result of cartoons/anime frequently being drawn at 8 or 12fps. If it's something else, then here's a discussion of what cartoon mode does:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65938&highlight=cartoon+mode

yeah, I have the same issues with some camera pans... thanks for the link, interesting info

[pixolex]

@len0x

Can you put, like you made for CD, in the comboBox of the output size / Predifined Size options to 1/4, 1/3 and 1/2 DVD (1 dvd = 4700MB)i think many people are buying or thinking to buy dvd burners (i am :)) and this will be a cool option :)...and simple to implement, i think...:rolleyes:

Thanks...

[DevilsChild]

Originally posted by len0x
Hmm... It's not the first time I hear this.
Important thing are:
- is audio mp3 file indeed 4Gb in size?
- is it playable at all?

Lets go from there.

P.S. you can try extracting besweeet 1.5b24 into besweet dir and see if that fixes your problem. But I'm really curious what's happening there anyway.

Hi,

Sorry for not responding sooner. I tried extracting 1.5b24 into the besweet directory and it still crashes midway through mp3 encoding. This happens with both vbr and cbr encoding.

No, the audio file is not 4Gb in size. Yes, the resulting MP3 plays fine, but is too small because besweet crashes midway through.

Here's a logfile I just got with 0.86 alpha:

[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Input dir: G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Output file: G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\Pearl_Harbor.avi
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Audio: English
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Subtitles: none
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Codec: DivX
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Target size: 1050Mb
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 128Kbps
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Started encoding.
[1/17/2004 10:12:12 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[1/17/2004 10:29:17 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[1/17/2004 10:29:17 AM] Found 185387 frames
[1/17/2004 10:29:17 AM] Encoding audio.
[1/17/2004 10:38:19 AM] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[1/17/2004 10:38:19 AM] Overhead: 6,746,368 bytes (6.43 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[1/17/2004 10:38:19 AM] Job finished.


Audio log:

BeSweet v1.5b24 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 01/17/04 , 10:29:18.

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\PEARL_HARBOR AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\PEARL_HARBOR AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\PEARL_HARBOR AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h --cbr -b 128 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\PEARL_HARBOR AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: G:\PEARL_HARBOR_DSC1\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\PEARL_HARBOR AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 10.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 128
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------

[((( atom )))]

i got this error-message when using the latest alpha:

[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Input dir: M:\DVD\Rips\ArizonaDream
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Output file: M:\DVD\Rips\ArizonaDream\AD.avi
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Audio: English
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Subtitles: none
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Codec: XviD
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Target size: 1295Mb
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Custom audio settings: AC3
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Started encoding.
[17.01.2004 18:37:33] Demuxing and indexing.
[17.01.2004 18:42:15] Analyzing source.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Invalid floating point operation
*************************************
[17.01.2004 18:42:17] Job finished.

i can't see anything wrong here. usually everything worked fine with previous versions. so no queue for me :(

i will try and downgrade now. hold on..

yrx! - same result with that one. now i can't encode nomore with autogk.

[alfredska]

I received:
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Divide by zero error
*************************************
between the first and second pass using 0.86a with XVid Beta 3 on Win2000.

EDIT 1-20-2004: My appologies for not reading the tutorial, which clearly states XVid 1.0 betas are not supported yet. Definately looking forward to this in the future though.

[AJ Bertelson]

Great tool, just batched up 7 files and they all turned out great.

Just love this tool!

[silver_cpu]

alfredska: I've gotten that same error, and I can't get rid of it no matter what material I convert (different sources) or what settings I use (I tried all auto, and a few others).

If anyone else has reached a workaround, I'd love to know it.

[manono]

Hi-

Unless something's changed recently, AutoGK doesn't support XviD 1.0, any beta. Roll back to Koepi's 6/24/2003 and see if that helps.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
i can't see anything wrong here. usually everything worked fine with previous versions. so no queue for me :(

i will try and downgrade now. hold on..

yrx! - same result with that one. now i can't encode nomore with autogk.

well, analysis doesn't work for you anymore. Did you upgraded avisynth to 2.5.4 RC1 when installing 0.86a ? Try opening _.avs file in vdubmod manually - may be you'll get more meaningful errors there...

[len0x]

Originally posted by DevilsChild

No, the audio file is not 4Gb in size. Yes, the resulting MP3 plays fine, but is too small because besweet crashes midway through.


Did you try manually encoding ac3 file into mp3 with BeSweet(GUI) with the same parameters? May be you can find parameter which causes that...

[((( atom )))]

well, analysis doesn't work for you anymore. Did you upgraded avisynth to 2.5.4 RC1 when installing 0.86a ? Try opening _.avs file in vdubmod manually - may be you'll get more meaningful errors there...
thx for the hint. i got it to work again: reinstalled avisynth, that didn't help, but now i got the error-message, that vdub crashed caused by divx.dll, dunno why. never use dixv, but afaik it is used to read the colourspace avisynth puts out, not sure though. so i installed divx and everything works fine. strange...

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
but now i got the error-message, that vdub crashed caused by divx.dll, dunno why. never use dixv, but afaik it is used to read the colourspace avisynth puts out, not sure though. so i installed divx and everything works fine. strange...

If AutoGK finds divx.dll then it uses it as YV12 decoder, if it doesn't then xvid.dll is used for that. Improper divx install/uninstall can cause problems I guess...

[len0x]

I found a problem and you will never believe but it was caused by chroma optimizer option turned on for xvid. Without it I'm having perfect changes of size like r2d6 was experiencing before (thanks to him for mentioning that it was working at some point - that's why I went and looked what was changed in codec settings).

New beta will be out tomorrow.

[calinb]

Originally posted by mgargett
I was thinking about another feature for AutoGK. Perhaps being able to open MPEG2 streams directly (say... from a ReplayTV capture?) and have them demuxed of their audio and processed? mgargett: Although AutoGK is not designed for this, I've found it to be useful for encoding ReplayTV files. This thread is getting so large that you probably missed my posts on pages 57 & 58:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=20&pagenumber=57
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=20&pagenumber=58

I recommend using your favorite DVD authoring software to first author a DVD from a random mpeg2 file. Then use the VIDEO_TS subdirectory as a universal template and simply paste new mpeg2 files into it and rename as a vob. Sometimes shortcuts named "VTS_01_1.VOB" help.

Although, not exactly a guide :), you should be able to figure out a good method from my posts. If the default cropping threshold of 35 doesn't work for you, you can change it to something else (60 works for me) and finish the job with GKnot. Or just live with the mis-cropped video...or wait for threshold to be included in an upcoming AutoGK config file feature.

[irnbru]

hi sorry I don't know if someone already asked this question. I'm french, I would like to learn english so I want my XVID movie to be in english with english subtitles in the video, I don't want the subtitles to be in another file, I want the subtitles to be in the video for good so I can play the movie with subtitles anywhere I want (like my DVD player)

I tried to encode with the english subtitles by selecting english in subtitle track, I went in preview and the video was great with subtitles, BUT when I did the job and got the final movie I didn't get the subtitles :( the video is great with good sound but the subtitles are missing :( I don't understand why, did I miss something, I noticed Winrar is mentionned, do I really need it (I use powerarchiver) Please Help me I'm lost :( Thank you so much

Otherwise your software is great , thank you so much to help newbies like me

Patrica

[manono]

Hi irnbru and welcome to the forum.

Go into the Advanced Settings and see if "Use external subtitles" is checked. If it is checked, uncheck it (still choosing the English Subs in the Main Screen), and then the subs should be embedded or "burned" into the video. That's about the only thing I can think of that might cause what you describe. Maybe len0x has a better idea.

And, no, you don't need Winrar unless you want separate (external) subtitles.

I think your English is darn near perfect already. :) I saw only one small thing that told me you weren't a native English speaker.

[irnbru]

hey manono thank you for helping me, you can call me Patricia, irnbru is my favorite soft drink made in scotland even better than Coke!

I have two questions :

- you told me I made one wee bit mistake in my english, where lol

- I realised that I checked in the option "display only forced subtitles", it may be a problem to get the subtitles burned in the movie right? Because forced subtitles are the subtitles you find already in the movie like when they speak in chinese or something, the forced subtitles are not the subtitle stream from the DVD right. If I just select the english subtitles stream in the tracks, and I leave both options "display forced subtitles" "external subtitles" unchecked , it should work right?

thanks for helping me
I hope your co worker in the project will help me too :)
:p

Kisses Patricia

[MediaMage]

*OFFTOPIC ON*
@irnbru: gonna try that out when i go to my short vacation end of january to scotland ;)
*OFFTOPIC OFF*

yes, just check the "real" subtitles, the are encoded into the movie stream, and therefore always visible.

[manono]

Hi Patricia-

I should have known you are a woman. You're too polite to be a man. :)

Yes, MediaMage is correct. If you want the main English subs as part of the video, then leave the sub boxes in Advanced Settings unchecked.

I hope your co worker in the project will help me too

Do you mean len0x? He's my boss, and the sole creator of AutoGK. I only write and update the Guide (http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~len0x/tutorial/AutoGK.html). There's a section in the guide with pictures explaining the sub boxes in the Advanced Settings.

- you told me I made one wee bit mistake in my english, where lol

Geez, Scottish English no less. Where you said "thank you so much to help newbies like me", a native English speaker might say something like, "thank you so much for helping newbies like me."

[wertert]

Originally posted by len0x
I found a problem and you will never believe but it was caused by chroma optimizer option turned on for xvid.

Could this by why I have seen a problem trying to encode to_end_all_wars PAL 4:3. The opening credits are presented over a fast flying sequence shot over scotland. I would say the picture is fairly noisy.

The credits seem to break up slightly along the edges of some of the letters.

After checking again with vdub the corruption only occurs in my player ( core + zoom ). If I inspect the frames with virtualdub the frames look fine.

Any ideas ?

wert

[irnbru]

Thank you manono and mediamage for helping me, you have been very helpful. I will try again to encode.

OFFTOPIC XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mediamage are you going to Scotland for real, which city ? Glasgow I guess, the nutters place, they out of their head there, I prefer edimbugh or Dundee.

Yeah try IRNBRU you will not regret it. where are you from ?

manono thank you for correcting me lol come on you guys you can be polite and gentlemen too, only when you are in mood to lol

END OFFTOPIC xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Anyway I upgraded to the very last version of autogk and arrrrgh I got big crash when VirtualMod started to analyze the source, says problem of violation, access, or whatever it means. I backgraded to the stable version 8 whew it worked again. I just wanted to make you know about this bug. My OS is XP if it helps to know...

God computer science is so weird, why do you guys make things so complicate.....

Fortunately AutoGK exists!

Kisses Patricia

[manono]

wertert-

Any ideas ?

If it shows in VDubMod with no corruption, then it's almost certainly a decoder problem. I might suggest installing Nic's Decoder (http://nic.dnsalias.com/XviD-Dec.exe). With any luck, that'll fix it up. I'm assuming this is an XviD encode.

[wertert]

Originally posted by manono
wertert-

Any ideas ?

If it shows in VDubMod with no corruption, then it's almost certainly a decoder problem. I might suggest installing Nic's Decoder (http://nic.dnsalias.com/XviD-Dec.exe). With any luck, that'll fix it up. I'm assuming this is an XviD encode.

You the man. Uninstalled ffshow and install Nic's decoder. Seems to work well. I'll test and report back.

[len0x]

Originally posted by MediaMage
*OFFTOPIC ON*
i go to my short vacation end of january to scotland ;)
*OFFTOPIC OFF*


man, that's an awful place to be in January :) I mean I'm freezing my arse here in London (under windy drizzle) - can imagine what's it like up north... ;)

[len0x]

Originally posted by irnbru
Anyway I upgraded to the very last version of autogk and arrrrgh I got big crash when VirtualMod started to analyze the source, says problem of violation, access, or whatever it means. I backgraded to the stable version 8 whew it worked again. I just wanted to make you know about this bug. My OS is XP if it helps to know...


I'd be interested if you could install latest version again, but try not to upgrade all the components, but first just avisynth and besweet and then see if it works (coz my guess that it's probably vdubmod that gives you the trouble)

Originally posted by irnbru

God computer science is so weird, why do you guys make things so complicate.....


Well, you can say that about lots of other areas, but luckely there are always professionals in each of them :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
I found a problem and you will never believe but it was caused by chroma optimizer option turned on for xvid. Without it I'm having perfect changes of size like r2d6 was experiencing before (thanks to him for mentioning that it was working at some point - that's why I went and looked what was changed in codec settings).


Actually I was wrong. Still don't know what's causing it though, but I managed to fix it anyway :)

[len0x]

Improvements in job queue, quality based mode and hybrid source handling. Packaged with new builds of VDubMod and Avisynth for testing. It's important to report all bugs related to them as I have to choose what I'm gonna pack with 1.0 release.

[xistan]

Originally posted by len0x
Improvements in job queue, quality based mode and hybrid source handling. Packaged with new builds of VDubMod and Avisynth for testing. It's improtant to report all bugs related to them as I have to choose what I'm gonna pack with 1.0 release.

Impressive work len0x. All thumbs up! I feel very confident when I'm using AutoGK for my backups. And I really like the sound of "1.0 release" upcoming...

Thx
/C

[wertert]

Originally posted by len0x
Improvements in job queue, quality based mode and hybrid source handling. Packaged with new builds of VDubMod and Avisynth for testing. It's important to report all bugs related to them as I have to choose what I'm gonna pack with 1.0 release.

Did you manage to fix the 67% quality problem ?

I will test tonight

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert
Did you manage to fix the 67% quality problem ?


yes, that is what "improvements in quality based mode" stands for :)

[jeremymacmull]

I noticed on your todo list that youve not got listed credit compression :eek:

i think this would be the feature that makes AUTOGK complete. Ive been using it for some time now to back up episodes which have like 30 secs of credits and it works a dream. But i used it the other day to back up 25th hour (movie ) and the credits are 12 mins long im pretty sure it would have had considerable jump in quality of the overall picture had credit compression been applied. agreed i forced it to use the ac3 and 640 minimum but it was a 1hr 49 min movie so for 2 cds that should be fine and the compressibility was high too.

is there any chance credit compression will be applied in autogk in the near future. If not no worrys its still great for episodes and ill just use GKNot for my movies (although i hate setting things up! ):D

love your tool and ive got my girlfriend using it as its so simple (and she hates complex computer things !)

JEREMY

[Sharktooth]

Test in progress...

EDIT: Doh! Crashed at the end of the 2nd pass.
EDIT2: Sorry, my bad... had the wrong codec version installed.

[((( atom )))]

lil' ot, but:Well, you can say that about lots of other areas, but luckely there are always professionals in each of them i just read a jim jarmush interview in wich he claims himself an amateur. the interviewer was a bit adzzled and jj replied that the word amateur would actually mean: someone, who is doing something out of love and commitment. a professional is a person, who does things for profit.

let's all be bloody amateurs! :D

[zerocoolnl]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
I noticed on your todo list that youve not got listed credit compression :eek:
I don't think this is possible with scripts. I don't believe you can let a computer decide where the credits are beginning. Maybe it's possible for an advanced feature that you can choose where the credits start before you start the rip process (or that VERY nice queue function :D :D )
anyway, it would be nice, but maybe just a dream.

Greetz,
Zerocoolnl

ps:Keep up the good work Len0x. I see the top of version 1.0 already..:)

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
man, that's an awful place to be in January :) I mean I'm freezing my arse here in London (under windy drizzle) - can imagine what's it like up north... ;)

Sorry, I know it's off-topic and I shouldn't, but try Winnipeg, in the middle of Canada. Here's the forecast for the next few days:

Tuesday High -11°C A few flurries Low -26°C Clearing
Wednesday Low -26°C High -21°C Sunny
Thursday Low -27°C High -20°C Sunny
Friday Low -26°C High -21°C Sunny
Saturday Low -26°C High -20°C

And that's actually warmer than last week, when it was well below -30
:(

[MindlessOath]

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by jeremymacmull
I noticed on your todo list that youve not got listed credit compression
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I don't think this is possible with scripts. I don't believe you can let a computer decide where the credits are beginning. Maybe it's possible for an advanced feature that you can choose where the credits start before you start the rip process (or that VERY nice queue function )


this is exactly whats going to happen. to enable us to compress a certain part of a movie more so than the rest of it, we will have to specify a time of which needs this to be done to. do you remember using GK it has this function in it.. its really easy to do, just use the slider and tell it where to go (ie the begining of the credits) then press credits button. easy as that.. then the options it will say "checkbox" compress credits @ xx% of the bitrate of the movie. it will then use scripts and math to figure out what it needs to do and where.

wouldnt this mess up the estimated size of an encode? thats the only thing that may have any problems. noobies would be able to work this out quite easily, and most wont even use it (noobies that is).

[darkonejr]

len0x:

First off, thanks again for your hard work on this...... this is a wonderful application, and it has certainly made my life easier.

One immediate bug report, and three wishful thinking feature requests...


1. It still seems to me that xvid quality based encoding is funky. My understanding is that xvid compresses better than divx in general... I ran quality based encoding of a 24 Season 2 PAL episode, and got the following file sizes (704x400, AC3 5.1 audio)

Divx: 604,020 KB
Xvid: 747,148 KB

They shouldn't be far apart... (note that I used the latest 0.88a you built for my hybrid problem, not the b you released today... were there any changes?)

2. Your scripting can pretty much handle anything except cartoons/anime, in which case more filters are required... I assume the only way to do that is to allow config file editing...

3. Any plans to include r4r functionality in AutoGK, so that you can use one app for everything?

4. (Maybe for version 3, as I'm sure this would entail a lot of work :) ) I'd like to see AutoGK merge into a client/server model, with a client choosing input/output files and settings, then handing it off to a autogk server... All this automagic scripting just lends itself to a client/server model....

Julian

[manono]

Hi-

They shouldn't be far apart

DivX uses the much softer and more compressible H.263 Matrix, and XviD using AutoGK's Quality Mode uses the sharper and more detailed HVS_Best Matrix. So I think that XviD will always produce a larger size in Quality Mode.

In addition, you didn't say what Quality Percentage you were using. But you did say that you weren't using the latest Beta, where the Quality Mode has been fixed. For a large range of percentages (65-85%?), it was coming out with around 90% sizes. So, maybe if you rerun the test using the latest Beta with the XviD Quality Mode fix, the sizes will be closer.

In Doom9's recent codec shootout, in the Saving Private Ryan portion he uses XviD's similar MPEG Matrix, and comments on the more detailed picture that XviD gives:

http://www.doom9.org/codecs-203-3.htm

He makes a similar comment on the Conclusion page:

http://www.doom9.org/codecs-203-5.htm#conclusion

[darkonejr]

Originally posted by manono


In addition, you didn't say what Quality Percentage you were using. But you did say that you weren't using the latest Beta, where the Quality Mode has been fixed. For a large range of percentages (65-85%?), it was coming out with around 90% sizes. So, maybe if you rerun the test using the latest Beta with the XviD Quality Mode fix, the sizes will be closer.



Both tests were with Quality set to 75. While I wasn't using the latest beta, I was using an alpha version of .88 that len0x built while troubleshooting another problem I had. len0x told me that the quality bug in the alpha i had was fixed, so I'm assuming that the two versions are equivalent as far as this issue is concerned.

I should also mention that the source VOBs in question are just a little over 1GB.

Julian

[menaceboy]

[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Overhead: 7,472,128 bytes (7.13 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Job finished.

used custom size 702mb
audio is at 64kbps vbr mp3
2ch ac3
xvid output
auto width
runtime about 1hr 44mins
hmm, this is the second time this has happened to me. the first being with another dvd. gonna try and change custom size to something different, i totally forgot what i did the first time to make it work.. thanks for a great util!@$@$#%

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Sorry, I know it's off-topic and I shouldn't, but try Winnipeg, in the middle of Canada. Here's the forecast for the next few days:

Tuesday High -11°C A few flurries Low -26°C Clearing
Wednesday Low -26°C High -21°C Sunny
Thursday Low -27°C High -20°C Sunny
Friday Low -26°C High -21°C Sunny
Saturday Low -26°C High -20°C

And that's actually warmer than last week, when it was well below -30
:(

off topic
don't feel too bad, avg of -24, w/ wind about -30 - 48c (in Sudbury)
/off topic

jeeze Len0x... I don't think it's possible for you to make this any more perfect (besides new version support.. I know, it's coming).. though I found a problem.

I'm backing up "The Recruit" 1hr55min ... one CD, auto size (comes out as 608x336), cbrMP3.. first pass is the usual for me: Movie length+20min (15fps+) for first pass, but on second pass, it slows to a crawl avg. of 6fps.
I don't think it's a hardware issue (this will be my 100+ rip), maybe codec (xvid), or a diff. setting for compression? it's the first time this has happened.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku

I'm backing up "The Recruit" 1hr55min ... one CD, auto size (comes out as 608x336), cbrMP3.. first pass is the usual for me: Movie length+20min (15fps+) for first pass, but on second pass, it slows to a crawl avg. of 6fps.


You know it may be new VDubMod problem. It behaves a bit weird on my PC: when I switch priority to lower then it always crawling at 0-1fps nomatter what I do in the background. Even lower fixes it for me, so you might want to experiment with that setting...

[len0x]

Originally posted by darkonejr
len0x:
1. It still seems to me that xvid quality based encoding is funky.

2. Your scripting can pretty much handle anything except cartoons/anime, in which case more filters are required... I assume the only way to do that is to allow config file editing...

3. Any plans to include r4r functionality in AutoGK, so that you can use one app for everything?

4. (Maybe for version 3, as I'm sure this would entail a lot of work :) ) I'd like to see AutoGK merge into a client/server model, with a client choosing input/output files and settings, then handing it off to a autogk server... All this automagic scripting just lends itself to a client/server model....


1. to check if it's working ok, set quality to 76% and see if there is any difference with 75%. Previously it wasn't. But as manono said I'm using much sharper matrix with XviD then with DivX and compressibility is definitely lower for XviD. You can check that by simply running comp test for both codecs with the same target size and you'll see.

2. correct. unless someone knows how to detect anime automatically :)

3. nope

4. well, that's a lot to ask :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by menaceboy
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Overhead: 7,472,128 bytes (7.13 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Job finished.

used custom size 702mb
audio is at 64kbps vbr mp3
2ch ac3
xvid output
auto width
runtime about 1hr 44mins
hmm, this is the second time this has happened to me. the first being with another dvd. gonna try and change custom size to something different, i totally forgot what i did the first time to make it work.. thanks for a great util!@$@$#%

Audio was not extracted or encoded properly. please post your stream info file, audio file names (from gk_tmp dir) and besweet log.

[len0x]

Small update for out of synch problem after splitting (not always, but happened).

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

use 0.88b, and I can't enter the percent value for the quality. :
(

[Mnl]

Hi Len0x

Reading through some posts on the Gordian Knot forum, I found a post which reminded me of a problem with low bitrate Mp3 in BeSweet:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69286

The problem is that Besweet AFIK can't go under abr Mp3 @ 77kbps.

The same problem is discussed in more detail in an earlier post in the audio encoding forum:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41429

Maybe the lowest possible abr Mp3 in Auto GK should be changed to 80 kbps or something like that to avoid people getting into that problem. I don't know if this has any interest to you, just thought I'd mention it. I hope I'm not making a complete fool of myself, mentioning something that is not really a problem at all :o

Mnl

[menaceboy]

i should say that my encodes work when i change the vbr setting
to cbr @ 64kbps
=====================
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 46005 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 4:3 / LBA: 45897 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
======================
01/21/2004 10:00 AM 149,591,808 1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
01/21/2004 10:19 AM 1,119 1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log
01/21/2004 10:00 AM 509,710 1.d2v
01/21/2004 10:19 AM 209,174 interlace.log
01/21/2004 10:00 AM 400 lastjob.vcf
01/21/2004 10:19 AM 905,216 _.avi
01/21/2004 10:00 AM 647 _.avs
7 File(s) 151,218,074 bytes
2 Dir(s) 3,542,147,584 bytes free
========================
BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 01/21/04 , 10:19:59.

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\dvd\ASN_STR_HRS_32\gk_tmp\1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output C:\dvd\ASN_STR_HRS_32\gk_tmp\1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile C:\dvd\ASN_STR_HRS_32\gk_tmp\1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h -alt-preset 64 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\dvd\ASN_STR_HRS_32\gk_tmp\1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\dvd\ASN_STR_HRS_32\gk_tmp\1 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 0.97
Error 47: Error with LAME dll!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

Logging ends : 01/21/04 , 10:19:59.

[((( atom )))]

@lennox,

thx for the queue, it is very usefull! - made a wish come up, though.. could you implement a button to save the queue? i had my pc crashing with 3 movies queued and they were of course gone. also i like to set up things and go to bed and let them process while i am at work. i just don't have any time in the morning, so a saved project would be very nice.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mnl
Maybe the lowest possible abr Mp3 in Auto GK should be changed to 80 kbps or something like that to avoid people getting into that problem. I don't know if this has any interest to you, just thought I'd mention it.

thanks for the info. good to know! will have to implement check for that.

@menaceboy it's exact problem you having, btw.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))

thx for the queue, it is very usefull! - made a wish come up, though.. could you implement a button to save the queue?

the way it's done now - its imposible to do that in a simple way, so I wouldn't count on this feature for a while.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,

use 0.88b, and I can't enter the percent value for the quality. :
(

meaning ? The range is 10-100% so it might be tricky to enter it manually, please use arrows :)

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by Mnl

The problem is that Besweet AFIK can't go under abr Mp3 @ 77kbps.

Maybe the lowest possible abr Mp3 in Auto GK should be changed to 80 kbps or something like that to avoid people getting into that problem.

It's not a Besweet problem, I think. It seems that AutoGK uses alt-preset, am I right? Well, alt-preset xxx can't go under 80 kbps, simply because it doesn't exist any alt-preset 64 or lower. alt-preset 80 is the lowest abr alt-preset.
It should be the same with cbr, i.e. alt-preset cbr 64 doesn't work.

@Len0x: you could simply switch to a simple "-h -b64"...

Bye, Yotsuya.

[idanm19]

Hello !
Sorry if it was asked before, but what about multi(external)subtitles support ?

[CCoug83]

Is there any possible way to access the codec controls? Pretty, pretty, pretty please could you add this? Even if it's a hidden feature by pressing F5 or something. I am doing movies like Saving Private Ryan and Lord of the Rings on one 870MB CD and am working with extremely low bitrates. For these kinds of movies I would like to run the quality settings at slowest to achieve the best results. I (and I'm sure others) would greatly appreciate this little bonus feature.

[r6d2]

63 pages are too much for any newcomer to read.

@len0x, should a FAQ be collected on why some features are not going to be there and related stuff? I volunteer BTW if you're interested.

[xistan]

Originally posted by r6d2
63 pages are too much for any newcomer to read.

@len0x, should a FAQ be collected on why some features are not going to be there and related stuff? I volunteer BTW if you're interested.
I was thinking the same thing the other day. I also offer assistance if you need it.

/C

[xistan]

This question is perhaps already asked and answered, but I used the search and couldn't find what I was looking for.

1) regarding the new queue feature in latest release of AutoGK. Is there any way to edit the queue items. I tried yesterday at home without success. When I had added all my encoding items I was just about to press start when I realized I had forgot to check the external subtitle box. I thought double-clicking on a queue-item would bring up the job-settings, but it didn't.

2) NEWBIE QUESTION: What codec settings do AutoGK use? How are they transferred from AutoGK to VDubMod?

3) If I change any settings in the codec configuration dialog (from VdubMod for example) will that affect the AutoGK settings, or will my changes be overruled by AutoGK?

Just trying to get some understanding about what really happens when I use AutoGK. I like the application and it's automatic way of handling things, but beeing an engineer I always crave to know how things really work.

Thanks again len0x for making this app!

/C

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
Improvements in job queue, quality based mode and hybrid source handling. Packaged with new builds of VDubMod and Avisynth for testing. It's important to report all bugs related to them as I have to choose what I'm gonna pack with 1.0 release.

I'm back from vacation and I can report that the 0.86 build fixed the Winrar issue .. Winrar is now correctly detected.
However the new VDubMod introduced in 0.88 crashes on my PC. The one in 0.86 did not.
I have 0.89b now and it's the same thing.

I doublechecked and VDubMod crashed again.
I also tried without the upgraded Lame_enc.dll I normally use ( 3.95.1 ) and the same thing happened again.

BTW I recommend updating the lame_enc.dll - The interface is unchanged so it works just like the old one, only with slightly better speed and quality.

[wertert]

i'm backing up bridge over the river kwai.

Viewing the disk in dvddecrypter the film is divided into two program groups. Each of about 1.5 hours each. Each program group is half the movie.

I've never seen a dvd like this before. Normally you get one pcg and that is the whole movie. At the moment I have to rip two groups of VOBs in two subdirectorys and encode each one in turn, then join them somehow.

Is this normal ? is there a way of joining the two groups of vobs together in one directory before running the whole lot through autoGK in one go.

*** update ****
found

http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/joinclip.html

trying it out now....

[Taurus]

I doublechecked and VDubMod crashed again.

Beware of the new Lame encode. After using the ''Lame'' for years, I
must say, this release crashed badly on one of my Win98 Machines, in different applications. Haven't had time to check it on my WinXP
Machine. The VirtualDubmod used in AutoGK works perfectly on my XP
machine, so I guess something else is bothering yours.
Check your Avisynth Installation, as example.Mostly when I had Problems with encoding, a falsy Avisynth Setup was the trigger.
Cheers

[irnbru]

Warning: Nothing to output bframe decoder lag??
hi you guys it's me again Patricia,

thanks for your help, I managed to encode my movie with the stable version of autoGK with the subtitle! But when I wanted to use VirtualDub or even Virtualdubmod on the screen in very big letters I can read the message Warning: Nothing to output bframe decoder lag
my video has been encoded with the XVID codec.

I don't know what the warning means

can you help??

kisses

Patricia

[len0x]

Originally posted by irnbru

I don't know what the warning means


you don't have to worry about it. it's a feature :) It doesn't affect the movie itself...

[irnbru]

thank you for your fast answer len0x :)

So you mean it is normal, do you have this message too when you encoded the movie then?

sorry I am just curious and I need to know lol

Patricia

:thanks:

[len0x]

Originally posted by irnbru

So you mean it is normal, do you have this message too when you encoded the movie then?


when looking at it in VDubMod - yes I do. It will not appear in your media player.

[therealjoeblow]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by menaceboy
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Audio size: 4,294,967,295 bytes (4096.00 Mb)
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Overhead: 7,472,128 bytes (7.13 Mb)
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!
*************************************
[1/20/2004 6:40:16 PM] Job finished.

used custom size 702mb
audio is at 64kbps vbr mp3
2ch ac3
xvid output
auto width
runtime about 1hr 44mins
hmm, this is the second time this has happened to me. the first being with another dvd. gonna try and change custom size to something different, i totally forgot what i did the first time to make it work.. thanks for a great util!@$@$#%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Originally posted by len0x
Audio was not extracted or encoded properly. please post your stream info file, audio file names (from gk_tmp dir) and besweet log.

I had exactly the same problem, logs are gone now, but it was a 100mb trailer, set to custom file size of 50mb, xvid, and 64kb vbr mp3 audio, the "EXCEPTION: Audio and overhead size is more than target video size!" error message appeared; I then tried to set the encode file size to 100 mb, no difference. Also tried 64kb CBR mp3. Same deal. But when I switched to 96kb vbr mp3, (and back to the 50mb target size), everything worked fine, no errors. I think maybe there's something wrong with the 64kb mp3 parameters?

[CeeJay.dk]

"An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'xvid'..."

This time I tried uninstallinng everything that had to do with AutoGK and then I installed the stable 0.8 and then updated it to 0.89b.

I then proceeded to encode the same movie that crashed on me before , making sure that all previously created aGK files had been deleted and only the DVD files remained.

Still crashed on me.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

I've found a little over.size issue in AutoGK. I've encoded the PAL version of the "Diesney's Alice in Wonderland" DVD with chosen file-size of 696Mb and MP3 VBR 160kbits Audio, but final filesize is 713 MB (748.451.840 Bytes).

[code]
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Input dir: D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\Alice_im_Wunderland_VTS_01_PGC1
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Output file: D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\aiw.avi
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Audio: Deutsch
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Subtitles: none
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Codec: XviD
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Target size: 696Mb
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 480 pixels
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 160Kbps
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Started encoding.
[22.01.2004 18:36:43] Demuxing and indexing.
[22.01.2004 18:38:49] Analyzing source.
[22.01.2004 18:38:49] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 18:45:41] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.01
[22.01.2004 18:45:41] Source is considered to be progressive.
[22.01.2004 18:45:42] Found 108120 frames
[22.01.2004 18:45:42] Encoding audio.
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Audio size: 84,783,992 bytes (80.86 Mb)
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Overhead: 4,324,864 bytes (4.12 Mb)
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Video size: 640,700,040 bytes (611.02 Mb)
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Running compressibility test.
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\aiw_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\aiw.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 18:58:40] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\aiw_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\aiw_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Duration was: 9 minutes 7 seconds
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Speed was: 9.87 fps.
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Compressibility percentage is: 24.49
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Using softer resizer.
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Using softer resizer.
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Chosen resolution is: 480x368 ( AR: 1.30 )
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Predicted comptest value is: 46.14
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Running first pass.
[22.01.2004 19:07:47] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\aiw_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\aiw.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 19:07:48] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\aiw_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\aiw.avi");
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 21:03:01] Duration was: 1 hour, 55 minutes 13 seconds
[22.01.2004 21:03:01] Speed was: 15.64 fps.
[22.01.2004 21:03:01] Expected quality of first pass size: 41.06
[22.01.2004 21:03:01] Running second pass.
[22.01.2004 21:03:01] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\aiw_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\gk_tmp\\OGMX-AIW AC3 T02 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\DVD\\Rips\\aiw.avi");
===========================================================
[22.01.2004 23:58:32] Duration was: 2 hours 55 minutes 30 seconds
[22.01.2004 23:58:32] Speed was: 10.27 fps.
[22.01.2004 23:58:32] Job finished.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by xistan
I was thinking the same thing the other day. I also offer assistance if you need it.
:thanks: Seems that len0x is not very interested though. :(

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
Seems that len0x is not very interested though. :(

to be honest I'm just really busy... but I have this idea for a month now :) I have up to ten questions for it in mind but can't put myself to wrire them down. Any help is welcome. Please PM me with draft versions.

[ookzDVD]

@lenox,

About the percent qualiy value, before the 0.88, I can enter the value
by keyboard. But after that I can only use mouse to click the up/down
arrow button to increase/decrease the value. But it's ok anyway. :)

How about providing the AutoGK (.exe) only, without Avisynth, BeSweet,
and VirtualDub? Thank you.

[CeeJay.dk]

I tested again , this time reinstalling 0.8 and the 0.89b choosing not to update VDubMod when the installer asked.

Processed the same movie , with the same setting.
It resulted in a perfect flawless encode - No crash.

I'm convinced - The new build of VDubMod is to blame for the crashes on my system.

@len0x : Please don't include that specific updated build of VDubMod in future releases.

[rmagere]

I have the very same problem as CeeJay.dk and his solution works also for me. It looks as if VDubMod is the problem of the crash.

[Taurus]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
[B]I tested again , this time reinstalling 0.8 and the 0.89b choosing not to update VDubMod when the installer asked.

Just at thought: Is your machine equipped with a Pentium 4 processor?
Maybe disabling Hypertreading will get the VirtualdubMod, Lenox is using in AutoGK 0.89, to work.
On my Athlon machine everything works seamless.
Or just change the VirtualdubMod.exe to Win98 compatibilty Mode for
experimenting. And please tell us if it works.

[CeeJay.dk]

I also have an Athlon machine and everything works seamless .. With the 1.5.4.1 release of VDubMod ;)

I'll just copy/paste my sig from Nforceshq.com forums :

-
Abit NF7-S v2.00 - Bios 2.2 (TicTac's BetaKing)
AMD Barton 2500+ @ 2315 Mhz ( 220 x 10.5 @ 1.65v )
Zalman CNPS7000 AlCu (custom mounting)
512MB Crucial DDR3200 ram ( 11 - 3 - 2 - 2.5 )
Club3D Radeon 9700 (With Zalman Heatpipe)
-

It's a very nice and very silent system :)

And it's hardly a problem with the overclock - It's been running this fast for over 6 months (totally stable) and I like to torture the CPU with Folding@Home among other things.

I might try changing the VirtualdubMod.exe to Win98 compatibilty Mode later , but a user shouldn't have to change compatibilty modes to get it to work.

[Taurus]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
[B]I also have an Athlon machine and everything works seamless .. With the 1.5.4.1 release of VDubMod ;)

Allright, CeeJay. It was just a guess to bring some light to this odd
behaviour.
After some testing with the VdubMod Version Lenox prefers, it crashed
too on my machine, using Gknot. So I agree that there's something in-
combatible with this version. In AutoGk still no problems....

[zParticle]

When I already have a VIDEO_TS directory on my hard drive there doesn't seem to be a way to use that as a source for DVD Decrypter to do an IFO extraction.

An obvious workaround is to burn the VIDEO_TS directory to a DVD first. The process then works fine, but this step seems really pointless.

Is there an alternate tool to DVD Decrypter that can actually handle a source on the hard drive and still let me select specific tracks? Or perhaps a better way to do all of this?

Thanks--Auto GK is great one-stop shopping for DVD->AVI encodes, except for this one frustration.

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by zParticle
When I already have a VIDEO_TS directory on my hard drive there doesn't seem to be a way to use that as a source for DVD Decrypter to do an IFO extraction.

An obvious workaround is to burn the VIDEO_TS directory to a DVD first. The process then works fine, but this step seems really pointless.

Is there an alternate tool to DVD Decrypter that can actually handle a source on the hard drive and still let me select specific tracks? Or perhaps a better way to do all of this?


Looking at the link that wertert posted earlier I found this page :
http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/createifo.html

It might work - Try it.

I was also thinking that working with ripped DVD's might be easier if some kind soul would create a inputplugin for daemon-tools allowing it to take different kinds of DVD-fileformats and make it look as a real DVD to the PC.

Maybe I should suggest this to VeNoM386 - He might listen more if it's suggested by one on the betatestingteam.
I know he's busy with the coreprogram though , but it doesn't hurt to ask.

[Barton]

I just wanted to say a big THANKS to Lenox for making Auto Gordian Knot.I had tried to use Gordian Knot,but i guess its name isn't a coincidence,is it? It is beyond the patience and capabilities of the average user like me.I saw the guide in doom9 forum,well most people don't want to read a manual for flying a plane just to make a DVD backup nor have the time to do so and change (4?) programmes to make a DivX.I only hope to see support for Xvid 1 soon.For the rest Auto Gordian Knot has worked flawlessly on my PC .


Normal people want ONE programme to backup their DVDs ,to be "set and forget".I mean the "normal" Gordian Knot requires constant attention.People don't have so much time available to dedicate to a single process.The idea of Auto GK was GREAT and i think this is the way to go.Xmpeg,Dr DivX,Vidomi have gone this way and it is what the average user wants.I LOVE AutoGK,has superior quality and the easiest settings.Oh and also i was pleasantly surprised from the accuracy in CD splitting with AutoGK :) Auto GK users will be multiplying very soon.A negative thing on the diffusion of Auto GK is ...it's name...Because those who have tried "normal" Gordian Knot,don't want to hear it again.Myself had downloaded normal GK,despaired,later i saw the Auto and didn't think to download it untill i had problems with other programmes and decided to give it a try.Maybe in the guides of the forum ,a reference should be put for AutoGK,because when someone reads the DivX/Xvid guide ,only sees the "normal" GK,so it's the first that tries and...runs away!LOL!In fact i m trying to convince some friends of mine to try AutoGK now,they were too scared from "normal" GK before,and as soon as i mentioned the name "GK" they were very reluctant to test Auto "GK" too.But i ll make a promotion campaign now :)


Anyway,Keep up the good work,and again a big THANKS from all the newbies or average users that can't dedicate much time over a PC to change many programmes in order to have a quality DVD backup.

[rantingotaku]

2 random things....

1. found something that divx actually encodes better than xvid.. Cowboy Bebop, at 233mb an episode, there is quite a difference (or I'm messing something up in the settings :p ).

2. way back in the first 20 pages or so, someone asked about audio issues with Evangelion rips (first ep on each dvd way out of sync)... the only way I've been able to fix it, is to use the original Gordian Knot to make these eps, and set the audio delay to roughly -500ms to -680ms, it won't be perfect, but fairly close, with a bit of tweaking you should be able to get it right.

and my n00bish question of the day... are Len0x and Koepi the same person? they both seem as intelligent as the other :cool:

[MediaMage]

@barton and others: maybe take a look at the gordian knot project page, which author (of the latest developed versions) do you recognize?

right: lenox ;)

[Barton]

I know it's Lenox!i just wanted to thank him for making the Auto version of GK,because for many ( i think the majority) of users,the "normal" GK is unusable...I don't mean any offence,i just say the simple facts.I m no PC novice,in some sectors i am above average,still i can't stand the normal "GK",while the Auto one is wonderful.Actually i would have prefered an option for manual configuration of the DivX/Xvid codec in Auto GK,but at the end,the results as i saw are excellent,so i m happy as is :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
1. found something that divx actually encodes better than xvid.. Cowboy Bebop, at 233mb an episode, there is quite a difference (or I'm messing something up in the settings :p ).


out of curiosity - what's the comp test values for xvid and divx on that source ?

Originally posted by rantingotaku

2. way back in the first 20 pages or so, someone asked about audio issues with Evangelion rips (first ep on each dvd way out of sync)... the only way I've been able to fix it, is to use the original Gordian Knot to make these eps, and set the audio delay to roughly -500ms to -680ms, it won't be perfect, but fairly close, with a bit of tweaking you should be able to get it right.


can you remind me of the actual problem? (I hope you do use latest DVDDecrypter and latest AutoGK, right?)

Originally posted by rantingotaku

and my n00bish question of the day... are Len0x and Koepi the same person? they both seem as intelligent as the other :cool:

lol
Best question I've seen in this thread :)
If I was Koepi as well, then support of XviD 1.0 was already in AutoGK ;)

[len0x]

Originally posted by xistan
1) regarding the new queue feature in latest release of AutoGK. Is there any way to edit the queue items. I tried yesterday at home without success. When I had added all my encoding items I was just about to press start when I realized I had forgot to check the external subtitle box. I thought double-clicking on a queue-item would bring up the job-settings, but it didn't.


It's gonna be tricky but not impossible (as for instance for saving queue). Ths feature will probably come after 1.0 release since its not that important because setting up one more job takes just 10-15 sec :)

Originally posted by xistan
2) NEWBIE QUESTION: What codec settings do AutoGK use? How are they transferred from AutoGK to VDubMod?
3) If I change any settings in the codec configuration dialog (from VdubMod for example) will that affect the AutoGK settings, or will my changes be overruled by AutoGK?


that's rather advanced topic. They are transfered via scrips, so you can't change them (they're getting overwritten everytime vdubmod is started, so that nobody can screw AutoGK, even if they wanted to :) )

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
About the percent qualiy value, before the 0.88, I can enter the value
by keyboard. But after that I can only use mouse to click the up/down
arrow button to increase/decrease the value. But it's ok anyway. :)


Well the reason is that i've implemented min quality of 10%, so now you're unable to set anything below that (the control itsefl checks the value after each key press...). So if you just delete one digit at a time it should work.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CCoug83
Is there any possible way to access the codec controls? Pretty, pretty, pretty please could you add this? Even if it's a hidden feature by pressing F5 or something. I am doing movies like Saving Private Ryan and Lord of the Rings on one 870MB CD and am working with extremely low bitrates. For these kinds of movies I would like to run the quality settings at slowest to achieve the best results. I (and I'm sure others) would greatly appreciate this little bonus feature.

There is a reason why I don't use slower/slowest modes. They simply don't produce better quality if no preprocessing/PSY is used (accoring to my tests, in fact I can see lots of worse things happening when using them). And since I'm the judge of quality of AutoGK output I decided not to bother with those slow modes (and newbies will not notice the difference anyway in case it's producing better results, which I doubt).

[len0x]

Originally posted by idanm19
Hello !
Sorry if it was asked before, but what about multi(external)subtitles support ?

I think if I was doing an option for that then Id' rather do "All subs" option... Selection is just very difficult to put into GUI...

[jeremymacmull]

Great Tool: Ive done ALL my DS9 on them about 190 eps and soo much quicker for episodes a godsend really a few requests which i think would be great

1) Credit compression :D yeah i know i asked before not the end of the world tho so i want lenox to think im ungratefull.

2) Noise filters

Not detailed settings and the what not just in the advanced tab can u put like GKnot light denoising medium and heavy or better they could be chosen automatically if not compressible enough and we are limiting res and size. (eg. 45 min episodes of star trek on 175 mb 512X384 ABR 128 mp3 XVID)

thats it i think it would be perfect after this

although its pretty damn good now to be fair

as a question

what features have u planned on trying to implement in AUTOGK from now till 1.0 release if you dont mind me asking or are all the things from now till 1.0 bug fixes (which they arent many except with vdubmod!)

thanks again for a fantastic tool

JEREMY

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I tested again , this time reinstalling 0.8 and the 0.89b choosing not to update VDubMod when the installer asked.

Processed the same movie , with the same setting.
It resulted in a perfect flawless encode - No crash.

I'm convinced - The new build of VDubMod is to blame for the crashes on my system.

@len0x : Please don't include that specific updated build of VDubMod in future releases.

I learned that AviSynth work in the background when VDubMod is running (Yep .. this newbie is learning) and did a test with the new VDubMod and without the new AviSynth when another encode failed (with the old VDubMod and the new AviSynth) and it worked !

So I'm no longer thinking that the new VDubMod is to blame .. it might provoke some errors in AviSynth , but it is not to blame.
The new AviSynth is.

Well .. at least it is one of them.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I learned that AviSynth work in the background when VDubMod is running (Yep .. this newbie is learning) and did a test with the new VDubMod and without the new AviSynth when another encode failed (with the old VDubMod and the new AviSynth) and it worked !


so, you're saying that both old and new VDubMod are working OK with old avisynth (2.5.3) ?

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
so, you're saying that both old and new VDubMod are working OK with old avisynth (2.5.3) ?

Based on my limited testing .. Yes it seems so.

Rmagere : can you confirm this ? Does the new VDubMod with the old Avisynth also work for you ?

[Taurus]

@ CeeJay

This is my Opinion too.
This is why I ask you to check you're Avisynth Setup in one of my former postings.

Cheers

[CeeJay.dk]

And I did - What teamwork ! :)

[rantingotaku]

out of curiosity - what's the comp test values for xvid and divx on that source ?

at 544res, 233mb, cbr mp3, divx was just above 45%, xvid was mid 30's - still looked good for the divx, seems odd since everything else I've done with xvid has been alot better. also, xvid had more fuzzy edges on borders of a face, or object (then again, there is alot of movement in most eps).

can you remind me of the actual problem? (I hope you do use latest DVDDecrypter and latest AutoGK, right?)

but of course I do, I try the beta as soon as you put it up :) the post in question is found here... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=20&highlight=evangelion&pagenumber=50 (i read through all previous pages to find it :eek: ) author is BKAM (6th from bottom).

well, I think this is the right post, it seems to occur only with the first episode from each dvd, setting audio delay to roughly -500ms to -680ms fixes the issue somewhat... I can't think of why it would do this :confused:

Best question I've seen in this thread
hehe thanks :D , the two of you do seem similar

[rmagere]

Rmagere : can you confirm this ? Does the new VDubMod with the old Avisynth also work for you ?

It does seem to be the case though I haven't tested it properly yet.

[len0x]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull

1) Credit compression :D yeah i know i asked before not the end of the world tho so i want lenox to think im ungratefull.


this depends on someone writing an avisynth filter, coz I won't be doing manual credit start point selection...

Originally posted by jeremymacmull

2) Noise filters

Not detailed settings and the what not just in the advanced tab can u put like GKnot light denoising medium and heavy or better they could be chosen automatically if not compressible enough and we are limiting res and size. (eg. 45 min episodes of star trek on 175 mb 512X384 ABR 128 mp3 XVID)


I'd rather leave this completely to the end user as may ppl will want to use specific filters for that and there will lots of argueing about them. When config file is implemented you'll just put your favourite filter in and it'll be accounted already during comp test (it will be quite tricky to predict automatically how comp test value is changed if a filter is applied).

Originally posted by jeremymacmull

what features have u planned on trying to implement in AUTOGK from now till 1.0 release if you dont mind me asking or are all the things from now till 1.0 bug fixes (which they arent many except with vdubmod!)
JEREMY

One feature is ready: second audio support. I'm just waiting for some decomb related fixes and it'll be out. Apart from that only bugfixes.

[len0x]

Second audio support is there (but it's hidden).
Also it's bundled with brand new avisynth 2.5.4, so please test crashes against it (I'd rather keep new avisynth and old VDubMod if possible).

[jeremymacmull]

OOOPS

this was meant to read "so i DONT want lenox to think im ungratefull."

Ok fair point ill use GKNOT for movies and AUTOGK for episodes then

the second audio support would be nice

The filters fair point i suppose it would be to complex for end users anyway. Plus the arguments thing

Still having probs tho with VDUBMOD a lot of people have reported maybe we could go back to 1.5.4.1 and just have the new avisynth 2.5.4 as 1.5.4.1 seem to do the job fine.

LAST feature request is it possible to have OGG as one of the options anytime in the future!! or do u have no intention of putting this in if no then fair enough its a good tool anyway

The next point is to do with GKNOT any updates since the .28.7.2 planned (especially ogg support?)

i understand u want to finish AUTOGK at least to stable 1.0 and then ull probably continue with GKNOT

JEREMY

[((( atom )))]

@len0x

2nd audio support is there! thanx. and again: thanx!
this will greatly easy ripping for quite some people.

since i couldn't figure out how to activate it in this thread, but heard of it elsewhere, here is a question regarding it:
is there a way to choose different settings for the different audio tracks, like ac3 for the original version and mp3 for the secondary?

[stax76]

problems we had in DVX with new VDM:

ogm/mkv subtitle language tags were broke because changed ISO list

range encode was broke because AddRange method with full range is added default, for a range encode it must be cleared first

AVI decoding and demuxing was broke because RemoveInputStreams() must be applied first

other than that I couldn't find differences to older builds, it appears to be stable

[gircobain]

Originally posted by len0x
I'd rather leave this completely to the end user as may ppl will want to use specific filters for that and there will lots of argueing about them. When config file is implemented you'll just put your favourite filter in and it'll be accounted already during comp test (it will be quite tricky to predict automatically how comp test value is changed if a filter is applied).

Couldn't we just have an "Edit" button as in regular GK, under Advanced Settings, so we could be able to add our favourite filters to the avisynth script directly?

[rmagere]

I think that if you start putting buttons people (and newby too) will want to fiddle with it or at the very least will often be left with the feeling that maybe they could have got a better encoding if only...

However if such changes are left into a configuration file then (as far as I have seen) people do not feel as "threatened" and they are quite happy to leave it alone - unless they know what they are doing.
To be fully honest I still use only GK for all my encodings as I find it's dead easy, I like using divx5.05, I like the choice of filters and I like choosing my credit point; still I keep testing AGK because it looks v.promising I can give it to my sister and friends for their encodings so that they don't make a mess and whenever I will have to encode episodes again I will also use AGK as I find episodes are really quite boring too do.

So point is I like Lenox view of AGK: make it simple (i.e. a tool for everybody) and make it better than great (i.e. a tool that even experienced user like to use) and if you are not happy with some filter choice you can always use GK.

Lenox thanks for your great work on developing (improving) GK and AGK.

[idanm19]

Originally posted by len0x
I think if I was doing an option for that then Id' rather do "All subs" option... Selection is just very difficult to put into GUI...

as you already put an (hidden) option for second audio stream, what's the difficult in putting another line in gui just under the first subtitle for second subtitle, and if you want a checkbox for all subtitles, which will gray out the choice for specific subtitles. I think many people who want 2nd sub, won't need/want all the subs, because many movies have a lot of subtitles in it(10+) which will take much wasted space (~1-1.5mb per sub).

*edit corrected*
@CeeJay.dk -there is no support for 2nd subtitle atm, just fot 2nd audio stream, in ver 0.89, by ctrl+f10.
what I meant to ask is the support for 2nd subtitle.

[CeeJay.dk]

Could someone please explain to me in more detail how the hidden features are activated ?

I try pressing CTRL + F10 in AutoGK but I cant see anything happening when I do so.

And I didn't even know about the support for a second subtitle .. how does that work ?

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by rmagere
I think that if you start putting buttons people (and newby too) will want to fiddle with it or at the very least will often be left with the feeling that maybe they could have got a better encoding if only...

However if such changes are left into a configuration file then (as far as I have seen) people do not feel as "threatened" and they are quite happy to leave it alone - unless they know what they are doing.
To be fully honest I still use only GK for all my encodings as I find it's dead easy, I like using divx5.05, I like the choice of filters and I like choosing my credit point; still I keep testing AGK because it looks v.promising I can give it to my sister and friends for their encodings so that they don't make a mess and whenever I will have to encode episodes again I will also use AGK as I find episodes are really quite boring too do.

So point is I like Lenox view of AGK: make it simple (i.e. a tool for everybody) and make it better than great (i.e. a tool that even experienced user like to use) and if you are not happy with some filter choice you can always use GK.

Lenox thanks for your great work on developing (improving) GK and AGK.

I agree completely, autoGK was meant for simplicity, if more advanced options are wanted, use standard GK... or do as I am.. reading all the tutorials I can get on avisynth, vdub, codecs etc.

Until I learn enough to figure out what settings to use just by watching a few minutes.. I will continue to use both GK's and be damn happy someone like Len0x is dedicating so much time to make video encoding easier for n00bs like myself.

[Destron]

2nd audio stream support RULES! Thanks for the great software.

[CeeJay.dk]

I still can't make it work - How do you use it ?

[zParticle]

Agreed! With second audio and soft subtitles it's now almost perfect for encoding anime and other foreign titles. My final wish would be for container support (such as OGM or MKV) to allow for soft subtitles without generating additional files.

[Ctrl]+[F10] to enable the second audio track.

Love this tool--thanks len0x!

[xistan]

Originally posted by zParticle
Agreed! ...My final wish would be for container support (such as OGM or MKV) to allow for soft subtitles without generating additional files.



It's not a very difficult task to do this step yourself, is it? OK Takes some space and time, but maybe we should try to remember the time that AutoGK is already saving us...

/C

[zParticle]

Originally posted by xistan
It's not a very difficult task to do this step yourself, is it?No single piece of the puzzle is all that difficult of itself. It's all of the decisions you can make at each point and putting all of those pieces together that can make it a daunting process for a newbie.

AutoGK has done such a wonderful job of automating this much of it, I can only hope lenox continues the process--making it accessible to more people by continuing to expand its scope.

[len0x]

Originally posted by zParticle
make it a daunting process for a newbie.


You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

[pixolex]

Originally posted by len0x
You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

There are mkvtoolnix and it's so easy, don't need mkv support now...but credits compression yes :devil: maybe next step :D

And a BIIIIIIIIIIG thanks for that tools!

[r6d2]

@len0x, did you get my PM on the FAQ thing? :D:D:D

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I try pressing CTRL + F10 in AutoGK but I cant see anything happening when I do so.


I hope you were pressing it at the same time :)
If it doesn't work, then you probably have another application that uses that combination at the same time. We have to find the one which is not used...

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
@len0x, did you get my PM on the FAQ thing? :D:D:D

I did - working on that :) Liked last one especially ;)

[Jaw3000]

I had some thoughts, which may be stupid, but: How about integrating AutoGK into GK as a "Wizard" or "Beginner" mode and the current GK as Expert/Advanced mode. Then, people who want to use AutoGK for complete automation, but also want to tweak one or two advanced settings could tweak a setting or two in expert mode and then go back to "Wizard" mode to automatically encode. The two could be tied into each other, like AutoGK (Wizard mode) makes the automatic changes under advanced mode. If not adding AutoGK to GK, how about adding automatic encoding to GK somewhat like I mentioned above, but keeping AutoGK as a newbie DVD backup only tool?

Or, another thought: A second small "tweak" app. to tweak advanced AutoGK settings in an "easier" GUI w/o having to hand edit scripts. Newbies wouldn't have to use it to get great results, but advanced users who want to use AutoGK but want to tweak it could use the "tweak" app.

Personally, I think AutoGK is great and has a much brighter future than GK. But I think it should have some more features (like AVI input) and an advanced mode for small tweaks, and then it could completely overtake GK! There has to be a way to add more features and some advanced capability w/o affecting the newbie. I think combining AutoGK with GK would be a good thing as it could automate the majority of GK encoding, but still allowing experts to tweak some settings if they want. For example, I'm a newbie and I don't really care about a lot of the tweaks, I just want the best possible quality. I would much prefer automatic encoding if it could give me the same quality (or better since I'm not messing it up) as GK can! I just wish I could auto encode AVI's I've captured. AutoGK could do so much more, but still keep it easy for newbies in my opinion! AutoGK: "Easy enough for newbies, but advanced enough for the expert. Automatic encoding for all! Long live AutoGK!"

Len0x: Probably been asked before, but will there be AVI support in AutoGK? I know it's main purpose is DVD backup, but people with captured video should be able to get automatic encoding too! :) And, btw, when do you think Xvid 1.0 RC1 support will be added to AutoGK (or GK)?

Maybe a stupid idea, but what do you think?
-Jaws

[rmagere]

You said it yourself - why would newbie care for OGM/MKV ? Or for a second subtitle for that matter ?

Just regarding the reasons why a newbie might want a 2nd subtitle:
English Audio + English Director's Commentary, if he wants the subtitles for the audio why shouldn't he want them for the Director's Commentary?
Also for all the non-english speakers that might want to keep the original soundtrack and also the soundtrack of their native language and subtitles for each of them.
Whether the subtitles are there because the users are deaf or hard-of-hearing or because they like to be able to follow the movie even during a crowded and noisy party it's hardly the matter, I just believe that when you allow for two soundtrack you should allow for people to want a subtitle stream for each soundtrack.

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
I hope you were pressing it at the same time :)
If it doesn't work, then you probably have another application that uses that combination at the same time. We have to find the one which is not used...

Why not just F10 on its own? It doesn't have to be a system-wide hotkey, it only has to work in AutoGK. Combination keys like Ctrl-F10 or Ctrl-Shift-F2 are usually reserved for system-wide hotkeys.

[len0x]

@Jaw3000

I have only one answer: time. I'll be really slowing down the development of AutoGK after 1.0 release (only support of XviD 1.0 will come asap when its released) - the only feature I'll be working _slowly_ will be config file. That's it. I'm gonna make a sticky soon about such requests, so that I don't have to explain my position on this matter.

@rmagere

We have diferent definition of a newbie. Mine is not even capable of switching between subtitles... Remind you: this tool is desinged for standalones and PCs, so I feel really reluctant to put anything which benefit only PC users.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Gordie Howe
Why not just F10 on its own? It doesn't have to be a system-wide hotkey, it only has to work in AutoGK. Combination keys like Ctrl-F10 or Ctrl-Shift-F2 are usually reserved for system-wide hotkeys.

It just happened that I use component which is system wide shortcut. And I had F10 used my other application on my PC. But feel free to propose a shortcut which will not interfere with anything else...

[zParticle]

Originally posted by len0x
We have diferent definition of a newbie. Mine is not even capable of switching between subtitles... Remind you: this tool is desinged for standalones and PCs, so I feel really reluctant to put anything which benefit only PC users.Being unwilling to dive into the murky depths of video encoding is hardly the same as not knowing how to use your own playback equipment. I think you're right: much different definitions of "newbie". I don't know anyone who hasn't watched a foreign film, and those with DVD players are very familiar with switching audio tracks and subtitles where appropriate. It isn't VCR science. :rolleyes:

I'd love pass along AGK to some newbie friends who wouldn't otherwise be motivated to learn this stuff, but would find useful a simplified tool that empowers them to create MPEG4 content in an entirely intuitive manner start to finish. AGK is not quite to that point, but it's tantilizingly close.

And while I know they exist, I don't know anyone who actually owns an MPEG4 capable standalone. Until standalone players get a LOT more prevalent, MPEG4 will largely be a computer format. In any case, don't these support multiple audio and subtitle streams just like DVD players?

You've got a really great concept here, len0x! Even without any further development it's a great tool for those of us already using it. But I'd hate to see you stop here; you've got a huge untapped audience waiting... ;)

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
It just happened that I use component which is system wide shortcut. And I had F10 used my other application on my PC. But feel free to propose a shortcut which will not interfere with anything else...

F8? F9? :) Any of the function keys would be fine. I just think there's a better chance of compatibility with other apps if it's a single key rather than a Ctrl-Alt-F9 type of combination.


I also have a request - would it be possible to have a "No audio" option? I usually prefer to take care of audio encoding myself (it's so much easier than video encoding, plus I use ogg), and if I can make AutoGK ignore audio, I could enter the filesize required for the video only and mux them together myself later.

[rmagere]

@Lenox
you are right I hadn't thought of newbies quite in the same way as you do (also not using myself a dvdplayer with mpeg4 support I do not know what it's like to play divx or xvid through them).
However I still believe that the choice (temporary or not) of not providing a 2nd subtitle stream when a 2nd audio track is present is not fully coherent as I still think that it makes the 2nd audio track less useful - however as I said I do not know if 2 subtitle streams make dvd-players go mental or some such and unable to play xvids.

[endlocal]

don't want to spoil the party, but I really do not think that any newbie would have any benefit from the "no audio" option. If someone is able to do the audio externally, then AutoGK was not really made for that person....but talking about audio: secondary audio stream was a feature I was waiting for! great! thanks! but....

I think that in a lot of (most?) cases, the secondary audio option is only used to keep an audio stream that remains unused for most playbacks (e.g. directors comments). Most Newbies would be happy to lower the quality for these "less important" audio streams, e.g. keep the usual track as AC3 and go down in quality for the secondary stream and save bits for video quality. So I think, that a checkbox like "Lower quality for secondary audio", which in fact encodes this stream to MP3 VBR (e.g.)would be of great use for this fantastic program.

[Babeinternational]

Just a minor error in the GUI:
In Step 3 "Custom size" it should be MB (mega-byte) or Mo (mega-octet).
I know, it's not a big deal...;-)

[((( atom )))]

@len0x:
i don't want to bother you, but i didn't get an answer on my question, if you plan on implementing seperate settings for the two audio-tracks.
personally i always keep the original ac3 for the original version and add mp3-audio for the second language, since it will be used more unfrequently but i still want to keep it. keeping both ac3s is overkill. throwing away the original ac3 on the other hand would also suck.

another question is: why did you actually hide the second audio function at all? i can't imagine anybody being confused by seeing that option. either you want it, or you leave it at no second audio.

this thought lead me to the following:
the ongoing discussion about advanced features:
quite some people would like to have it, but maybe even the majority could be confused and/or have bad results.

exact audio copy seemingly had similar problems at a certain point and since a certain version you can simply switch between "simple" and "advanced" mode. advanced then has some extra features enabled.

i think that actually is a very nice way to make it absoultely clear, that after throwing that switch you should a, - know what you are doing
and
b, - not blame the application if your result is other than expected.

it would give sophisticated people the chance to lay their hands on diffucult rips and might even inspire newcomers to improve their scills step by step, since they could rely on the output quality of the basic application.

i don't really care to much for extra-features, but it came to my mind. what do you think?

[wertert]

quick question. I'm running the lastest beta. Trying both 2 CD and 67% quallity encodes. dvd2avi now seems to run twice ! Not sure if there is a reason for this ? Any ideas ...

wert

[len0x]

Originally posted by Gordie Howe
F8? F9? :) Any of the function keys would be fine. I just think there's a better chance of compatibility with other apps if it's a single key rather than a Ctrl-Alt-F9 type of combination.


I have a resident application running which uses F1-F10 :)
So I'd rather go to a long combination which is used less frequently...

P.S. No Audio options is definitely not for n00bs as was pointed out :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by wertert
quick question. I'm running the lastest beta. Trying both 2 CD and 67% quallity encodes. dvd2avi now seems to run twice ! Not sure if there is a reason for this ? Any ideas ...


if you haven't selected second audio track, then it's a bug - I'll have a look over the weekend...

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
if you plan on implementing seperate settings for the two audio-tracks.


I understand the value of this option, but I'm afraid I simply don't have a place to put those settings (especially due to the fact that second audio option is hidden).
In the config file - definitely. Otherwise I can't promise you anything...

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
another question is: why did you actually hide the second audio function at all? i can't imagine anybody being confused by seeing that option. either you want it, or you leave it at no second audio.


Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.

P.S. I'm against separating simple and advanced interface atm...

[len0x]

So everybody is OK with a combination of 2.5.4 of Avisynth and VDubMod 1.5.4.1? (i.e. keeping new avisynth, but old VDubMod)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by len0x

Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.

P.S. I'm against separating simple and advanced interface atm...

hehe, i have the elta 8883 mp4 here and i have no problems with a second audiostream :D wether with ac3 nor mp3

[MediaMage]

STANDALONE REPORT:
-------------------

got the hiteker he-940 player today from the local MEDIA-MARKT here in Germany for 89 Euros (about 60 Pound Sterling)

XVID Got some nasty failures, but divx just looks perfect.

Player supports also .srt subtitles, also multiple subs, multiple audio trackt.

player supports PROGRESSIVE SCAN

got a coaxiac digital output
got a optica digital output
got a RGB output
got a 6 cinch 6-channel output.

this thing is so great!

even mp3pro and wma is supported, and firmware updates are supposed to come out every few month.

so if you live in germany and got an Media Markt near you, don´t hesitate to buy one ;)

[len0x]

curious - does any of standalones above can display 16:9 videos on 16:9 displays full screen (i.e. with no black bars at all) ?

[MediaMage]

BUG REPORT
-----------

got the "dvd2avi runs twice bug" dvd2avi starts, runs, exits, and then runs one more time..

gotta go to bed now, you´ll get the log via pm tomorrow morning.
settings were:
select input (720x576, PAL, 16:9 Anamorphic)
select output
select one audiotrack (NO second audio dropdown box shown, no STRG+F10 pressed)
no subtitles

ADVANCED:
Auto width
AC3
DIVX 5
(X) Show Only Forced Subs
(X) Use External Subs

custom size 1480 mb

add job
start

Log so Far:
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Input dir: G:\VIDEO_TS
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Output file: *************************
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Audio: Deutsch
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Subtitles: none
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Codec: DivX
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Target size: 1480Mb
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Custom audio settings: AC3
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Started encoding.
[31.01.2004 01:41:27] Demuxing and indexing.
[31.01.2004 01:56:16] Analyzing source.

[MediaMage]

maybe this helps pin down the error:

4 movies ripped via dvddecrypter 3.1.9.0 to full isos

2 of them DIRECTLY ripped from mounted daemon tools iso:
dvd2avi ran twice

2 of them RIPPED in FILE MODE, then encoded from this folder via autogk:
dvd2avi ran ONCE.

gotta run some tests tomorrow.

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
I have a resident application running which uses F1-F10 :)
So I'd rather go to a long combination which is used less frequently...


Then what do you do for standard Windows keys like F2-rename, F5-refresh, F4-address bar pulldown, etc? :) To be honest the hotkey doesn't make a huge difference to me, but I think it's always good to uphold the Windows convention that single Function keys can be controlled by individual apps, and combination hotkeys can be system-wide. Almost every program I can think of does things this way.



P.S. No Audio options is definitely not for n00bs as was pointed out :)

Well usually not, you are correct. However - if implemented, it would only be an extra option in the audio pulldown list. It's self-explanatory and it doesn't take up any gui space - both of these things ensure it's not confusing for the noobs. :)

I just think it would go a long way to pleasing the users who know about different containers and audio codecs, while having no effect on noobs. Personally I think the absolute noobs would be more confused by "AC3 audio" than "No audio" in the pulldown list. ;)

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by len0x
So everybody is OK with a combination of 2.5.4 of Avisynth and VDubMod 1.5.4.1? (i.e. keeping new avisynth, but old VDubMod)

no problems yet my man, great job!

[MediaMage]

did some quick test with the "dvd2avi runs twice bug"
- it doesn´t bother if the movie is located in a daemon tools mounted iso or are ripped in IFO mode to HDD.
- it doesn´t matter if the movie is the first in the job queue, or the 2nd or the 3rd.
- it doesn´t matter if subtitles are checked in preferences, or not, or selected
- it doesn´t matter if single audio or dual audio or dual audio mode and only one audio track selected
- it doesn´t matter whick audio language is selected
- it doesn´t matter which output size (mode)

it SEEMS that this is a dvd2avi specific problem with some movies or movie formats (hybrid, interlaced, progressive??)

gonna test a bit with this.

dvd2avi used was:
v 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by Gordie Howe
Personally I think the absolute noobs would be more confused by "AC3 audio" than "No audio" in the pulldown list. ;)

Me too! Add a "CAREFUL!" to the "No audio" option label :D

[endlocal]

Originally posted by len0x
I understand the value of this option, but I'm afraid I simply don't have a place to put those settings (especially due to the fact that second audio option is hidden).
In the config file - definitely. Otherwise I can't promise you anything...


Well, what about modifying the "automatic" settings for audio then? Based on output size like it is now. Only with the difference, that if 2CD or bigger is chosen and a secondary Audio Track is selected you get AC3 for first and MP3 for second audio. If one intentionally chooses "AC3" then both streams are muxed that way, if one chooses "MP3" both streams are encoded in MP3 and so on....that way there would be no need for another options dialog or checkbox and would could keep that "hidden-feeling".

Just my two cents. I think that dual audio is very important, but filling ~700MB of a 2 cd rip with only audio files, only because you want to keep your favorite language in its original quality is just overkill.


Standalones doesn't support second audio that's why it's hidden.


Well, I also own one of the rasther new (and cheap!) standalones based on MediaTek Chip which support ASP Level5 and it has no problems with dual audio (even "mixed"). I think those players will take over the market very soon, so there's no need to consider the good 'ol "Kiss-like" Sigma-based players. They are just outdated.

[Mnl]

Hi Len0x

I just did an encode of Dr. Strangelove (1964) using AutoGK. The movie is 4:3, so I had expected the result to turn out with an aspect ratio rather close to 1.33.

The result however turned out having a resolution of 640x432 corresponding to an AR of 1.48. I am aware of the fact that following the ITU-R BT.601 standard results in aspect ratios not exactly equal to 1.33 when encoding 4:3 material (I am not sure wether AutoGK follows this standard or not).

Still I thought that an AR of 1.48 was a bit far from 1.33, so I tried encoding the movie in regular GK (keeping the "Follow ITU-R BT.601 Standard" tab checked) using "auto crop" and "smart crop all". This resulted in a resolution of 640x464 (AR 1.38). And I really think that the encode done in regular GK looks more like the original picture AR-wise.

Maybe I should add that unchecking "Follow ITU-R BT.601 Standard" resulted in an AR of exactly 1.33 in regular GK.

My question is then: Why are the resolutions produced by regular GK and AutoGK not the same. I'm sorry if this qustion has already been answered, but I haven't been able to find anything about it.

If there is not an immediate answer to my question, and if this issue is of any interest to you, I would be happy to do both encodes again and post my log files. (I unfortunately have incidentally deleted both the log files).

Regards,

Mnl

[len0x]

Originally posted by endlocal
Well, what about modifying the "automatic" settings for audio then? Based on output size like it is now. Only with the difference, that if 2CD or bigger is chosen and a secondary Audio Track is selected you get AC3 for first and MP3 for second audio. If one intentionally chooses "AC3" then both streams are muxed that way, if one chooses "MP3" both streams are encoded in MP3 and so on....that way there would be no need for another options dialog or checkbox and would could keep that "hidden-feeling".


Actually I think it's a good idea. I'll keep second audio always in mp3 format unless AC3 is selected. Thanks for suggestion.


@All
I fixed that DVD2AVI bug (when starting second time).

[((( atom )))]

@mediamage
@len0x

i can report on both the hiteker and the elta players, sonce i bought one for my girlfriend and tested them both.

the nasty xvid-problems with the hiteker player disappear, when you choose film mode ot auto (cant't ewxactly remember the menu) in the settings _again_, although it already was selected. weird lill bug. after that, xvid plays fine.

but:
the elta player, wich is only a few euros more, is by far the better player. everything works out of the box and it comes with a pretty big menu with lots of usefull featues.
one of them is to choose a 16:9 display as tv-device and you will get what lennox asked for: perfect 16:9 output on a 16:9 screen.
also it handles multi-audio like a charm. more and more players come up with that feature anyway. seen quite some already..

the idea about the auto audio ac3/mp3 sounds good.

[endlocal]

@len0x

great news! (both) thanks!

[irnbru]

hi you all :)
I need your help please :)

Is it possible to change the radiance of the picture, because sometimes the movie can be pretty dark. I heard it is normal cos of the encoding process the picture ends to be darker than the original one. But would it not be great to change the radiance to higher light in AutoGK?? I know AutoGK is supposed to be a nice simple newbie software but I'm sure even newbies like me will definitely appreciate this added feature :)

I tried to encode several movies with the XVID codec and I always have the following problem

Warning: Nothing to output bframe decoder lag

which is very FRUSTRATING because VIRTUALDUB doesn't like it. Do you have the same problem too with AUTOGK and XVID?

I don't have the problem with DIVX but I tend to prefer XVID. So it must be a problem of the XVID codec right? Do I have to change of XVID codec Or did I miss something??

what does this message mean anyway??? :angry:

lol sorry I am frustrated if you can help me with these two questions I will love you bigtime :p

Patricia

[MediaMage]

@atom: don´t got a 16:9 tv, i got a 4:3 which is replaced soon by a nice beamer ;)

i´ll try that one out in the menu thanx for the tip.

it works, but it´s very annoying to change it for EVERY single movie.

gotta write to hiteker if they could fix it in the next firmware.


@irnbru: back from Scotland, it was as cold as here in germany, but princess street and royal mile ruled!

btw: irn-bru has indeed a really cool taste.

[manono]

Patricia-

Change it in your video drivers or decoder or player. Read my reply in this thread from a fellow with a similar problem:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69835

[manono]

Mnl-

Dr. Strangelove is an unusual movie. The R1 version, and the R2 English version (and others, but not the R2 German version which is 1.85:1 widescreen anamorphic 16:9) has 2 ARs within the movie. It switches back and forth between full screen 1.33:1 and widescreen 1.66:1. If you have one of those versions, then if you look around in your GKnot rip of it, you should see places where there are black bars on the top and bottom. So maybe it "fooled" AutoGK's AutoCrop. I believe it's the only movie and DVD ever done like that. I think if you do another "normal" movie, then both AutoGK and GKnot should both work the same way. There's some more information about it here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/dvd).

[beber75]

Just to notice that if you use accents in the avi filename, autogk will hang (I use french character set, that mean éèçà and so on).

If I use standard characters, it works fine.

[Mnl]

Hi manono

Thank you for your reply. You are absolutely right right (as always :D). It must be the varying aspect ratios of the movie that tricked AutoGK. I have just finished a couple of tests on some more 4:3 material, and the AR turned out a perfect 4:3 every time. I guess you will always be able to find some strange case where an automatic tool like AutoGK does it wrong. (Although it is pretty pretty darn good at it already)

I also learned that AutoGK never follws the ITU standard when it is encoding 4:3 material. It took some time to find, but it says so on page 4 or something of this huge thread.

[irnbru]

thank you Manono :) that is nice of you of helping.

I still have this problem Warning: Nothing to output bframe decoder lag with XVID encoding, please please please help me about it, tell me what can I do? I got other XVID videos from the net and I don't have this message so I must have done something wrong, please can you tell me what?

I would be so glad if you help me dear

Patricia

[manono]

Hi again Patricia-

Ignore that B-Frame Decoder Lag message. It means nothing. Well, it means something, but nothing important. Every .avi encoded with B-Frames displays that message when you open it in VDubMod.

The fact that you don't see it when opening someone else's .avi's (something we're not supposed to talk about here) means only that B-Frames weren't used.

If you want to confirm that, then open the .avi's in DRF Analyzer (http://www.geocities.com/analyzerDRF/). It'll tell you which were encoded with B-Frames and which weren't. It also gives you a lot of other interesting information. It and GSpot (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/gspot221.exe) will together tell you just about everything you might want to know about encoded .avi's.

Edit later: Me, I don't much care about the B-Frame Decoder Lag message. It's enough for me to know that it's normal. But if you're the kind of person that wants to understand everything, then about halfway down the first page of this thread is an explanation of the B-Frame Decoder Lag message (Stux's Post):

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=65424

[zerocoolnl]

Hi there all,

Just reinstalled my system and I wanted to back-up "Die Another Day" and "Shanghai Knights" but I get a problem:
I know a few post before this one there were problems with Virtual Dub. I got this error too but with the second movie. I set-up the 2 movies in the queue and the first movie is perfect. Only with the second movie I het the error. (didn't try it a second time, so I don't think it's the movie that's wrong) Maybe it's usefull to know that.

Greetz,
Zerocoolnl

[len0x]

Originally posted by beber75
Just to notice that if you use accents in the avi filename, autogk will hang (I use french character set, that mean éèçà and so on).


at which stage ? when DVD2AVI is launched ?

[len0x]

Finally rolled back to old vdubmod (reinstall full 0.8 to get it back). I see almost no bugs, so stable release is coming soon.

[zerocoolnl]

Thnx!

Zerocoolnl

[Taurus]

Originally posted by len0x
Finally rolled back to old vdubmod

Thanks! Guess,this will give relief to my VdubMod-Headache after many test-encodes.

[niUmex]

2len0x
Very much it would be desirable to learn, when you will add support of new version XviD in the program?

On numerous responses in the new version quality of coding is considerably improved.

[len0x]

Originally posted by niUmex
2len0x
Very much it would be desirable to learn, when you will add support of new version XviD in the program?


When 1.0 is supported, support of old XviD will be gone for good. So if ppl complain that new XviD is not working for them for some reasons - there will be pretty much nothing I could do about it. I still see bugs reported for RC1 (especially in playback area which is really important for a dumb end user) so I'll be waiting until _everyone_ is ready to use new XviD (which is hopefully when 1.0 gets released).

[beber75]

Here is what I got with accents

[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Input dir: D:\dvd\tt
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Output file: D:\dvd\tt\éééé.avi
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Audio: English
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Subtitles: none
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Codec: XviD
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Target size: 50Mb
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 112Kbps
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Started encoding.
[02/02/2004 22:12:13] Demuxing and indexing.
[02/02/2004 22:12:25] Analyzing source.
[02/02/2004 22:13:06] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[02/02/2004 22:13:06] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[02/02/2004 22:13:46] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[02/02/2004 22:13:46] Found 12119 frames
[02/02/2004 22:13:46] Encoding audio.
[02/02/2004 22:15:15] Audio size: 7,223,778 bytes (6.89 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:15:15] Overhead: 484,736 bytes (0.46 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:15:15] Video size: 44,720,286 bytes (42.65 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:15:15] Running compressibility test.
[02/02/2004 22:15:37] Duration was: 22 seconds
[02/02/2004 22:15:37] Speed was: 27,50 fps.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Open avi failed.
*************************************
[02/02/2004 22:15:37] Job finished.

Virtualdub hangs with the message: could not open file ""

and here is what I got with the same settings but without accents in the file name:

[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Input dir: D:\dvd\tt
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Output file: D:\dvd\tt\ttt.avi
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Audio: English
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Subtitles: none
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Codec: XviD
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Target size: 50Mb
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 112Kbps
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Started encoding.
[02/02/2004 22:16:17] Demuxing and indexing.
[02/02/2004 22:16:32] Analyzing source.
[02/02/2004 22:17:12] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[02/02/2004 22:17:12] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[02/02/2004 22:17:52] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[02/02/2004 22:17:52] Found 12119 frames
[02/02/2004 22:17:52] Encoding audio.
[02/02/2004 22:19:22] Audio size: 7,223,778 bytes (6.89 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:19:22] Overhead: 484,736 bytes (0.46 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:19:22] Video size: 44,720,286 bytes (42.65 Mb)
[02/02/2004 22:19:22] Running compressibility test.
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Duration was: 52 seconds
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Speed was: 11,51 fps.
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Compressibility percentage is: 23,82
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Using softer resizer.
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Chosen resolution is: 384x304 ( AR: 1,26 )
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Predicted comptest value is: 64,77
[02/02/2004 22:20:15] Running first pass.
[02/02/2004 22:28:29] Duration was: 8 minutes 14 seconds
[02/02/2004 22:28:29] Speed was: 24,52 fps.
[02/02/2004 22:28:29] Expected quality of first pass size: 67,21
[02/02/2004 22:28:29] Running second pass.
[02/02/2004 22:40:48] Duration was: 12 minutes 18 seconds
[02/02/2004 22:40:48] Speed was: 16,41 fps.
[02/02/2004 22:40:48] Job finished.

PS: I've used the 0.9b version jor my test.

[Mtz]

I've made a little test with an little DVD created by myself and wich have an mp2 audio at 48 KHz.
At the advanced settings I have greyedmp3 kbps = 96, but the final setting was pointed to Auto (AC3/VBR MP3).

The audio of the resulting avi, resulted with:
- Sampling rate: 32 KHz
- Data rate: 97 kbps

I expect for 128 kbps & 44.1 (or 48) KHz.

When I set 320 kbps, the result was 320 kbps at 48 KHz, with Auto (AC3/VBR MP3) enabled.

So, when we choose Auto (AC3/VBR MP3), we must to set de kbps, even it is greyed?

http://www.smilie.de/smilies/computer/computer_23.gif

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
When 1.0 is supported, support of old XviD will be gone for good. So if ppl complain that new XviD is not working for them for some reasons - there will be pretty much nothing I could do about it. I still see bugs reported for RC1 (especially in playback area which is really important for a dumb end user) so I'll be waiting until _everyone_ is ready to use new XviD (which is hopefully when 1.0 gets released).

Notwithstanding that *you* are in charge of when it will be implemented, there *is* one thing that you "could do about it" - suggest that anyone not happy with the v-1.0 features revert back to the last version of AutoGK that supported the old XviD alpha (since AutoGK v-0.90/92 are working quite well, that could be an acceptable fallback position - want the old codec, stick with the old feature-set). That being said, whenever you're ready, we'll get it :-)

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Finally rolled back to old vdubmod (reinstall full 0.8 to get it back). I see almost no bugs, so stable release is coming soon.

len0x,

Wonderful application - thanks so much. Just a small request - Is there *any* chance of OGG audio support in the future (near or far)?

[kvt623]

Hi

I just want to say that AutoGk has matured into a wonderful app. Does most everything that I loved about GK without all the setup.

Now that it is nearing 1.0 status, I think that it could use a slight polish for the application window size and item position updates.

I use it on my home theater pc hooked directly to my TV (ie no hi res monitor). The only thing doesn't work for me is that the app window doesn't fit. Therefore any time I need to use it I have to resize the desktop, which makes everything too small to read plus things get hard to pick, if they are visable at all. My TV viewing desktop is 640x480. I have to bump the res up to 1024x768 for it to workable at all.

I am currently on winxp with the win2k theme... acutually pretty much everything is win2k style, then I use myhtpc.net for the frontend. I would love to eventually have autogk sized correctly so I could launch it directly from the frontend without a desktop size change.

Thanks

[orestis]

Great tool... A few more things and it will rival GK for most encoding tasks:

Just a little request: Since AutoGK can use external subtitles (with vobsub), can you add an option of using multiple language subtitles (I really like to get both the Greek (my native)and the movie's subtitle stream, to be able to practice my english and not having to deal with stupid subtitle translations.

Thank you very much again!

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by orestis
Great tool... A few more things and it will rival GK for most encoding tasks:

Just a little request: Since AutoGK can use external subtitles (with vobsub), can you add an option of using multiple language subtitles (I really like to get both the Greek (my native)and the movie's subtitle stream, to be able to practice my english and not having to deal with stupid subtitle translations.

Thank you very much again!

you mean something like having translation of signs and an intro/outro song (most anime's) hardcoded, and still be able to have optional sub stream? If that is what you're looking for, we have something in common :D so Len0x... how about it?

[LenLen]

Aside from it being the wonderful program we all know it to be, I ran into a problem when encoding My X-files dvd, and only on one episode. I'm guessing the real problem is with the IFO, but I can't find anything... Anyhow, Autogk is selecting my resolution as 640X442 when it should be 640X352 (by selecting a fixed width of 640. This is on The Sixth Season, second disc, second episode if anyone else has the season... I'm just trying to find a way to get the right resolution... and hopefully improve the program if it's a glitch... thanks to anyone who can help!
h:\X-files 640X448.jpg

[len0x]

Originally posted by Mtz
I've made a little test with an little DVD created by myself and wich have an mp2 audio at 48 KHz.
At the advanced settings I have greyedmp3 kbps = 96, but the final setting was pointed to Auto (AC3/VBR MP3).
So, when we choose Auto (AC3/VBR MP3), we must to set de kbps, even it is greyed?


That's weird. What did the log say ? Was there inconsistency betwen settings and what log file shows you in the beginning of the encode ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by LenLen
Aside from it being the wonderful program we all know it to be, I ran into a problem when encoding My X-files dvd, and only on one episode. I'm guessing the real problem is with the IFO, but I can't find anything... Anyhow, Autogk is selecting my resolution as 640X442 when it should be 640X352 (by selecting a fixed width of 640.

Did you try different fixed resolutions?
It might be also autocrop bug in which case there is nothing you can do before you you are able specify threshold parameter for it (in the config file)...

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
suggest that anyone not happy with the v-1.0 features revert back to the last version of AutoGK that supported the old XviD alpha (since AutoGK v-0.90/92 are working quite well, that could be an acceptable fallback position - want the old codec, stick with the old feature-set).

I will wait at least until I release 1.0 which can be considered a good fallback position. I don't want to keep modifying two sources everytime I wanna fix a bug... Then we'll see. I will probably at least start looking at xvid new settings after RC2 :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Just a small request - Is there *any* chance of OGG audio support in the future (near or far)?

very probably, no date given.

[endlocal]

Originally posted by len0x
very probably, no date given.

@len0x
ooops? so you are considering to add *.ogm support in AutoGK? I'm not aware of any standalone that is able to read any other container than *.avi. With *.mp4 solutions showing up I would not even count on *.ogm to be _ever_ playable on standalones.

So did you change your mind on standalone-support being mandantory?

[cordraconis]

Decided to try the program out (to give it to my friends who are a lot less savvy for encoding ;) ) and I like it.

some probs dough:
- first installed the 0.92 update but it didn't work (yeah, I know :p ), then first installed the 0.80 and updated it. So maybe a version check could be nice?

-->then did my first encode. Everything went fine, gave the input and output directory, choose english AC-3, no subs, choose minimum 640 width, ABR 128 MP3 and divx5.

-The preview seemed to show only the left trimmed part of the film. I.e. the titles in the beginning of the movie were too much to the right and there was some part of the image lost on the right. (Could be because the final resolution wasn't chosen yet. Dunno.)
-During the process, it reported that the one-Cd encode (movie was 1 hour and 50 minutes - The Haunting) would be about 1040 kb/s :eek: and that the compressibility check was 112% :confused:. So it put the res on 704*xxx and disabled B-frames. It is a dark movie, so it might as well be very compressible, but I didn't trust this one. Nevertheless I didn't abort.
Eventually I got a nice-looking 700mb avi, but the length was 1h and 26 minutes. :(

Edit: I just decided to do a manual check, and after a few minutes I figured out that when you load the VOB's in DVD2AVI, it doesn't select the last 4 VOB's. After manualy loading them, the whole movie is there.
Probably something went wrong during ripping. :o

Well, so sum it up: nice work, and VERY simple to use. There are some things I'd rather do differently (multipass, psy-vis and slowest modes, no end credits etc ...), but these things would fall outside the KISS-scope of AutoGK. :D

Thumbs up!

[len0x]

Originally posted by cordraconis
Edit: I just decided to do a manual check, and after a few minutes I figured out that when you load the VOB's in DVD2AVI, it doesn't select the last 4 VOB's. After manualy loading them, the whole movie is there.
Probably something went wrong during ripping. :o


what are the names of vob files in ripped dir ?

[Siku]

VERSION HISTORY
0.92 beta
- changed normalization audio option from hybrid gain to post gain

Just to make sure, what's the difference between hybrid and post gain? Is post gain applied after the encoding, or what?

Regards,
Siku

[cordraconis]

Originally posted by len0x
what are the names of vob files in ripped dir ?
vts_03_1.vob
vts_03_2.vob
vts_03_3.vob
vts_03_4.vob
vts_03_5.vob
vts_03_6.vob
vts_03_7.vob
vts_03_8.vob
vts_03_9.vob
vts_03_10.vob
vts_03_11.vob
vts_03_12.vob
vts_03_13.vob

I've made the rip a few weeks ago, but only now I've found some time to do the encode, so I can't tell you how I made it. Sorry.

Hmm, now that I come to think about it, maybe DVD2AVI or AutoGK has a limit for 1-digit-numbers? (that's why the +9 VOB's aren't selected?)

:confused:

Edit: Don't worry too much about it. I'm going the hard way (manual method with GK :D ) anyway, but I used AutoGK for a short test.
;)

[len0x]

Originally posted by cordraconis
Hmm, now that I come to think about it, maybe DVD2AVI or AutoGK has a limit for 1-digit-numbers? (that's why the +9 VOB's aren't selected?)


There was a problem in DVD2AVI which I thought was fixed (coz it does automatically load all the vob files). When you launch the DVD2AVI manually (the exact version I'm using) and select first VOB file - does it load all of them or last 4 are missing ?

[cordraconis]

Originally posted by len0x
There was a problem in DVD2AVI which I thought was fixed (coz it does automatically load all the vob files). When you launch the DVD2AVI manually (the exact version I'm using) and select first VOB file - does it load all of them or last 4 are missing ?
WOW! That was fast!

Right now I'm busy building the project file and demuxing the AC-3 tracks. I'll check the version I'm using the second it has finished.
When I manually loaded the first VOB, it automatically selected the first 9 VOBs. Then I had to use the "add" button to select the 10th VOB and it automatically put VOB's 10-13 in the list.
--> finished. The about tab says: 1.76 by LOLI.J modified by DVD2SVCD 1.05.

When I checked the version in the AutoGK subdirectory (DVD2AVIdg.exe)it says: 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2


:confused:

Ok, it seems I have a buggy version :rolleyes: on my system (probably from my GK 0.28.5-install), but why has AutoGK used the other version and not the one in its own subdirectory?

Edit: AHA! I tried it with the 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2 version, and it still selects the first 9 VOB's. And with "add" it adds again 10-13.
So it is indeed a bug! :cool:

[len0x]

Originally posted by cordraconis
Edit: AHA! I tried it with the 1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2 version, and it still selects the first 9 VOB's. And with "add" it adds again 10-13.
So it is indeed a bug! :cool:

what if you name vobs: 01, 02 etc... ? does it help autoloading ?

[cordraconis]

Originally posted by len0x
what if you name vobs: 01, 02 etc... ? does it help autoloading ?
Nope!

I tried to name them:

1.vob, 2.vob, ... --> Only the first vob loaded.
01.vob, 02.vob, ... --> Idem dito.
vts_03_01.vob, vts_03_02.vob, ... --> Ony first 9, then 10-13 manually.

[len0x]

one more bug to report in the DVD2AVI forum then :)

[cordraconis]

Originally posted by len0x
one more bug to report in the DVD2AVI forum then :)
Ok, have fun. :D

bye!

[endlocal]

@len0x

just want to say thanks again!

this is the greatest dvd backup-tool i've ever used (just finally wiped all the others from my computer). It won't be too long and all those "newbie magazines" will write about how easy it is to use, and all those "professional magazines" will admit how good it is.

don't know if this was asked before: what about translations? you know, newbies like programs in their native language, and I'm sure there are lots of volunteers who will provide translations happily.

Are you interested in spreading AutoGK to the world after it has reached V. 1.0?

[SonGokuDBZ]

@Lenox

First of all, thanks for that great tool.

I have two little questions:

1.Is it possible to add the movie duration in the "video info" line? That would help to choose the right file-size without starting the movie!

2.I experienced, that DVD-Player like PowerDVD, automatically choose the right audio and subtitle track. It would be nice, if AutoGK also preselect the right tracks, if it isn't too difficult!!

Thanks

(Sorry, my English is bad):confused:

[Mtz]

Originally posted by len0x
That's weird. What did the log say ? Was there inconsistency betwen settings and what log file shows you in the beginning of the encode ?

1.
Audio:
greyed 96 kbps setting
and Auto (AC3/VBR MP3)

Log:
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Input dir: I:\VIDEO_TS
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Output file: O:\!GK\test.avi
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Audio: ??? #when I made authoring of DVD I didn't choose language :(
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Subtitles: none
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Codec: XviD
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Target quality: 100%
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 640 pixels
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Started encoding.
[05.02.2004 2:15:34 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[05.02.2004 2:15:40 AM] Analyzing source.
[05.02.2004 2:15:40 AM] Writing the following script to O:\!GK\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("O:\\!GK\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("O:\\!GK\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[05.02.2004 2:15:56 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[05.02.2004 2:15:56 AM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[05.02.2004 2:15:56 AM] Found 4315 frames
[05.02.2004 2:15:56 AM] Encoding audio.
[05.02.2004 2:16:17 AM] Running single pass encoding.
[05.02.2004 2:16:17 AM] Writing the following script to O:\!GK\gk_tmp\test_movie.avs

Audio Result:
- Sampling rate: 32 KHz
- Data rate: 97 kbps

Audio Log:
BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using hip.dll v1.19 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 02/05/04 , 02:15:56.

D:\Apps\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mpa -output O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h -alt-preset 96 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mpa
[00:00:00:000] | Output: O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | 'abr 96' preset is used
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:02:52:632] Conversion Completed !
[00:02:52:632] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 93kbps
[00:00:21:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 02/05/04 , 02:16:17.



2.
Audio:
greyed 320 kbps setting
and Auto (AC3/VBR MP3)

Log:
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Input dir: I:\VIDEO_TS
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Output file: O:\!GK\test2.avi
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Audio: ???
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Subtitles: none
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Codec: XviD
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Target quality: 100%
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 640 pixels
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Started encoding.
[05.02.2004 1:57:26 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[05.02.2004 1:57:32 AM] Analyzing source.
[05.02.2004 1:57:32 AM] Writing the following script to O:\!GK\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("O:\\!GK\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("O:\\!GK\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[05.02.2004 1:57:47 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[05.02.2004 1:57:47 AM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[05.02.2004 1:57:47 AM] Found 4315 frames
[05.02.2004 1:57:47 AM] Encoding audio.
[05.02.2004 1:58:11 AM] Running single pass encoding.
[05.02.2004 1:58:11 AM] Writing the following script to O:\!GK\gk_tmp\test2_movie.avs

Audio Result:
- Sampling rate: 48 KHz
- Data rate: 320 kbps

Audio Log:
BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using hip.dll v1.19 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 02/05/04 , 01:57:47.

D:\Apps\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST2 MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mpa -output O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST2 MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST2 MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h -alt-preset 320 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST2 MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mpa
[00:00:00:000] | Output: O:\!GK\gk_tmp\TEST2 MPA T01 DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | 'abr 320' preset is used
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:02:52:632] Conversion Completed !
[00:02:52:632] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 320kbps
[00:00:24:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 02/05/04 , 01:58:11.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Finally rolled back to old vdubmod (reinstall full 0.8 to get it back). I see almost no bugs, so stable release is coming soon.

There may be a small bug still... I encoded 2 movies recently as 2-cd (1400mb) with MP3 audio, and in both cases the auto-split cropped off about 30 seconds at the end of movie (on CD2 it ends abruptly before the credits finish). The overall size of the unsplit movie was about 4mb larger than the conbined size of the 2 split parts. The credits play completely on the unsplit file.

I'm using v-0.92 - prior, I uninstalled v-0.90, reinstalled the full release of 0.80 + the 0.92 update - I checked in between the uninstall/reinstall to be sure that the old AutoGK directory got deleted and it did - virtualdubmod version in use is 1.5.4.1. Here's the latter part of the log from the 2nd movie (Vertigo, the first one was Funny Face) where the split gets done, if that shows anything of use:

===========================================================
[2/4/2004 3:37:56 PM] Duration was: 7 hours 45 minutes 23 seconds
[2/4/2004 3:37:56 PM] Speed was: 6.68 fps.
[2/4/2004 3:37:57 PM] Writing the following script to F:\Encodes\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("F:\\Encodes\\Vertigo.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource(0x73647561,0,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(0,89455);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("F:\\Encodes\\Vertigo.cd1.avi");
===========================================================
[2/4/2004 3:37:57 PM] Splitting video into: F:\Encodes\Vertigo.cd1.avi
[2/4/2004 3:39:45 PM] Writing the following script to F:\Encodes\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("F:\\Encodes\\Vertigo.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource(0x73647561,0,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(89455,96450);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("F:\\Encodes\\Vertigo.cd2.avi");
===========================================================
[2/4/2004 3:39:45 PM] Splitting video into: F:\Encodes\Vertigo.cd2.avi
[2/4/2004 3:41:32 PM] Job finished.

[LenLen]

Originally posted by len0x
Did you try different fixed resolutions?
It might be also autocrop bug in which case there is nothing you can do before you you are able specify threshold parameter for it (in the config file)...

I haven't tried different resolutions, but I do think it is the autocrop... It's cutting off the left and right of the screen. So there is nothing I can do to fix this? Is there a way to disable the autocrop or select the h and v res?
: Thanks again!

[manono]

cordraconis-

DVD2AVI has always had that 9-vobs-at-a-time limitation. One workaround, I think, is when you have a 2 DVD movie with more than 9 vobs, go into Tools-Settings-IFO Mode of DVDDecrypter and tell it to split by 2 GB or 4 GB pieces.

endlocal-

Have you seen the big thread about all the language translations being worked on:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54019

But I went to Sourceforge looking for them, and couldn't find them. Maybe they're not online yet, or maybe I just don't know where to look.

SonGokuDBZ-

DVDDecrypter already tells you the length of the PGC (movie file) that you choose. Is that enough?

And I believe that the players always choose the default audio and subs. But often people want something else. But AutoGK chooses the first audio stream (default), I believe, and if you want the subs, the default one is the first on the list, I think. Is that enough?

LenLen-

I've noticed that when the crop values change in different parts of the movie, that AutoCrop can have problems. If you're getting parts cut off from the left side and/or right sides, have you checked if those values change in different parts of the movie? That is, does the amount of black bars change from time to time? You can easily check by opening the vob files in DVD2AVI and scrolling around. For example, I've seen quite a few old classic movies recently where the opening credits have much larger black bars than the movie itself. This sort of thing may be happening with your movie.

Is there a way to disable the autocrop or select the h and v res?

No, about all you can do is to encode the movie through GKnot, and choose the crop values yourself. Maybe there's a way to get the crop values you want from GKnot, and then put them into the .avs before AutoGK starts encoding. I don't know. len0x would have to comment on that.

[cordraconis]

Originally posted by manono
cordraconis-

DVD2AVI has always had that 9-vobs-at-a-time limitation. One workaround, I think, is when you have a 2 DVD movie with more than 9 vobs, go into Tools-Settings-IFO Mode of DVDDecrypter and tell it to split by 2 GB or 4 GB pieces.


Ah, ok. I just never ran into it before.
And I also figured to let it split into larger pieces next time during ripping.

Thx for clearing that out. ;)

[endlocal]

Originally posted by manono
endlocal-

Have you seen the big thread about all the language translations being worked on:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54019

But I went to Sourceforge looking for them, and couldn't find them. Maybe they're not online yet, or maybe I just don't know where to look.



thanks. I saw that thread, but based on its subject an after reading the first page I was under the impression that it was all about GKnot only....will Gknot translations work in AutoGK?

Edit:
seems like a silly question to me now. just forget it. I don't think they can work "out of the box". But I'm sure they can be reused...

[duwde]

Hi Len0x, manono, everyone else,

I've found a little problem in AutoGk, sometimes the subtitle option doesn't work, even in the preview mode. (it doesn't matter if the subtitle is internal or external)

I don't know if this has anything to do with it but this problem happens only in a few ocasions, like the Xfiles Season 1, disc 1, ep2 (detected as hybrid, btw, congratulations for the improved hybrid threshold), but it works flawlessly in the ep1 (detected as film).

The resulting .sub is 0 bytes, and the .idx seems to be fine, if you need any further info (or log), just le me know.

Btw, It would be nice to have a second subtitle option (it could be hidden too). I think it's even more useful than the (hidden) second audio (they are always crap translations, except for director comments).

Duwde

[manono]

endlocal-

Yes, you're right and I'm wrong. That thread was for the GKnot translations. I know I saw discussion of AutoGK guide translations somewhere, but they must be buried earlier in this huge thread.

Maybe if you're interested in creating (or helping to create) a guide in another language, you can mention which language and len0x can tell you if one is being worked on already.

[endlocal]

...if any help would be needed to create a german translation, just shoot me a PM/Mail.

[duwde]

About the subtitle problem I was talking above, you can get the log and the .idx/.sub files at http://www.isec.com.br/subtitle/

Hope it helps, if you need any other file and/or test, just let me know. Btw, don't forget the second subtitle option in your next release :)

[calinb]

Originally posted by LenLen
Is there a way to disable the autocrop or select the h and v res?You could also try changing the autocrop threshold value. Try editing a sample AutoGK *movie.avs file and preview it in Windows Media Player until you find a threshold that works. Until len0x adds a config file, here's how I do it:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64266&perpage=20&pagenumber=58

AFAIK, you need to finish the job in Gknot, but that sets up quickly because you only need to select the d2v file, the audio file (tell it to just mux the audio encode screen), and the filesize. That's assuming you've already setup your codec defaults. BTW, this method was temporarily bust in AutoGK version 0.90b, but it's working again now.

[len0x]

Originally posted by duwde
The resulting .sub is 0 bytes, and the .idx seems to be fine, if you need any further info (or log), just le me know.


you're probably ripping not the first PGC or angle and didn't check use them in filenames setting in DVDDecrypter (check out the tutorial from my signature).

[len0x]

@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).


Sorry, I deleted the 2-parts and resplit the file myself. I loaded it into VdubMod, set the in-point at the very beginning, seeked to exactly the same keyframe that the AutoGK auto-split broke the file and set the out-point, saved as part one; then set in-point at that same key frame, and clicked the button to go to the end of file, and set that as out-point, then saved as part 2 - both parts were just under 700 mb. There was no part missing from the end on the manually split file.

The original encode of Vertigo was done at 704x?? - To see what would happen, I re-encoded it at 640x??, also 2-disc, and let AutoGK autosplit it - very similar problem - it got split at a slightly different frame near the same point (because with a different encode size the keyframes are different), and this time there was only about 15 seconds or ~2mb clipped from the end of the file, but it was still clipped before the credits finished. Again, a manual split at the same keyframe as AutoGK chose worked fine. So that's all 3 files that I ever tried to encode with AutoGK to 2-cd's that got clipped at the end (Funny Face 1 time, Vertigo 2x). Strange.


ALSO: Another anomaly (I won't call it a bug, because file size predictability isn't an exact science, I do understand). I encoded 'Toy Story' - 1 disc, auto size, auto audio - AutoGK chose 640x352 and 128vbr mp3, and the final size came out to 710 MB (744,841,216 bytes). No biggie to deal with - I just reencoded the audio to OGG @ 126kb/s with oagmachine/besweet, (that came out to 67.5mb instead of the 73.6mb MP3) and re-muxed that with AutoGK's video stream to a matroska container which has lower overhead than OGM to come out with a final size of 698 MB (732,454,761 bytes) - muxing this to ogm came out to 703.5mb.

Here's the log of the oversized .avi encode, if that's of any value...


[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Input dir: D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Output file: D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\Toy Story.avi
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Audio: Unknown language
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Subtitles: none
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Codec: XviD
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Started encoding.
[2/6/2004 2:27:21 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Found 115970 frames
[2/6/2004 2:29:23 AM] Encoding audio.
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Audio size: 77,273,576 bytes (73.69 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Overhead: 4,638,848 bytes (4.42 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Video size: 652,090,776 bytes (621.88 Mb)
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Running compressibility test.
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Limiter(0,255,0,255)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 2:52:11 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Duration was: 13 minutes 44 seconds
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Speed was: 7.04 fps.
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 71.53
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x352 ( AR: 1.82 )
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 71.53
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Running first pass.
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\Toy Story.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Limiter(0,255,0,255)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 3:05:56 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\Toy Story.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Duration was: 3 hours 59 minutes 49 seconds
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Speed was: 8.06 fps.
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 70.30
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Running second pass.
[2/6/2004 7:05:45 AM] Writing the following script to D:\TOY_STORY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\Toy Story_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\gk_tmp\\TOY STORY AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\TOY_STORY\\VIDEO_TS\\Toy Story.avi");
===========================================================
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Duration was: 3 hours 57 minutes 57 seconds
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Speed was: 8.12 fps.
[2/6/2004 11:03:43 AM] Job finished.

[buckonine]

My father has problems hearing a lot of the spoken audio in most movies. so when i make movies for him to watch i use permanent subs so he can watch them on his stand alone. my question is this. i would prefer to use external subs and hope and pray one day stand alones will support this. but i would also like to not have to encode each movie twice. is there anyway to resume an encode or anyway to use external subs and then basically mux them with an already encoded a/v source? not sure if this is said exactly right, but hopefully you get the idea

[MediaMage]

go for a standalone that supports external subs

my hiteker 940 supports .srt subtitles (also multiple!!)

subrip performs ocr on the subs,
this isn´t something for beginners, but if you get used to it, it´s a great thing.

[WorBry]

Hi just upgraded to AutoGK 0.92b. My first encode using this version (XviD, Custom size: 630MB and Auto-width)is giving the following message when opened in VirtualDub "Warning: Nothing to ouput B-frame decoder lag" and the video appears "stripy". Never experienced this with AutoGK 0.8. Would be grateful for for advice on how to resolve this, as I use native VirtualDub to clip the XviD/DivX movies and also to re-encode in a decimated DivX format for playing in PocketMVP on my iPAQ pocketpc.Thanks.

[duwde]

Hi Len0x,

Are you going to add a second subtitle option ? :) I know some people have already asked that (including myself), but I think that would be a really nice feature. Or maybe (if it's easier for you) an checkbox like "include all subtitles".

You may be wondering why would I want a second subtitle, and the answer is that I like to keep the original english subtitle (for myself) and the portuguese subtitle to my friends/family. I bet a lot of people from other countries (that doesn't speak english) would love this option as well.

Btw, again, congratulations for the hybrid threshold calculations ! it's now 10x better :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by duwde
Are you going to add a second subtitle option ? :)

You all will be happy to know that its done already. version 0.95 will be released on monday and will be feature freeze release.

[len0x]

Originally posted by WorBry
"Warning: Nothing to ouput B-frame decoder lag"

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70173

[WorBry]

OK, so the explanations in the thread indicate that the message does not imply an error as such and that there is nothing to worry about. I assume this means that I can still use VDub for clipping etc.

Actually, on retesting I find that the XviD encodes I made with AutoGK 0.8 also give the same message. Strange, I usually check the File Information with VDub after each encode and could have sworn that I didnt have this message before. Maybe I need to get out more.

Thanks anyway and also for AutoGK, not least because my wife is happier that I spend less time "fooling around" on the computer - as if !!

[GizmoDerMokwai]

checking back from some idle time, hi girls :D

first to say: nice lenox, i like the second audio track support and the queue, but i have two little suggests:

1. wouldt be nice to can set different settings for the queue list, like different advanced settings and things

2. wouldt be nice to have a max. width resolution option, cause mx standalone player doesn't support resolutions with width above 640...

[SonGokuDBZ]

Just a very stupid question:
Normally only the first word begins with a big letter, but what about "Output File"?

[zerocoolnl]

No answers needed to stupid questions right?

[idanm19]

@lenox

Thanks for the 2nd sub support :)

Did you think about adding to AutoGK a ripping option (like in R4R)
that will realy make process one step... (althow you might have a problem with the queue, how to make the second rip automatic?)
what do you think ?

[BxWrapper]

Originally posted by idanm19
@lenox

Thanks for the 2nd sub support :)

Did you think about adding to AutoGK a ripping option (like in R4R)..........

Most of the recent questions (including mine on the other thread) have been asked before. I knew this because I have read all 70+ pages in a few go :D

I guess this is the consequence of having a big thread. People may have problem to dig in and tend to look at the first and a few last page only.

Bxwrapper

[r6d2]

Originally posted by BxWrapper
I guess this is the consequence of having a big thread. People may have problem to dig in and tend to look at the first and a few last page only. Since you took the time to read the whole thread, then you know the solution is in the works... ;)

[len0x]

On of the last betas before 1.0 release is out. No more features will be added in 1.0, only bugfixes.

[pixolex]

Originally posted by len0x
On of the last betas before 1.0 release is out. No more features will be added in 1.0, only bugfixes.

:scared: credit compression just after 1.0 isn't it :( but you said that after 1.0 you will not have time to continue autogk developement :(

[CeeJay.dk]

I figured out what my problem with CTRL + F10 was.
It conflicted with Samurize though Samurize does not use CTRL + F10 AFAIK.

To make it work I have to close Samurize and then run AutoGK - it will not work if Samurize is closed after AutoGK is started.

I'll try and see how theese features work for me.

[duwde]

Hi len0x,

The second subtitle option isn't working for me (I'm using 0.95b), only the primary subtitle is being generated. Example, if I choose English as the 1st sub, and portuguese as the 2nd, autogk shows "english" on both in the logfile and only the 1st one (english) is being generated (.idx and .rar). Take a look in this screenshot:

http://www.isec.com.br/2nd-subtitle/autogk.jpg

Dvddecrypter is configured to include pgc and angle number, and if I choose any of the subs as the 1st subtitile in autogk, it works flawlessly. Only the second sub doesn't work at all. You can check the autogk log of this session at:

http://www.isec.com.br/2nd-subtitle/

Any ideas ?

[kockott]

- Version 0.95b don't starts BeSweet with MP3 VBR 80 kbit, AutoGK use automatic the AC-3 Stream for Encoding - thats terrible - i need 80 kbit VBR MP3 ;)

- Version 0.92b works great with BeSweet by MP3 VBR 80 kbit - the Version 0.95b have a bug ?

[jeremymacmull]

I think V95b only allows 128k or above in full auto mode

not sure tho

[kockott]

hmm thats uncool - Video Sound is not a Music CD - i think 80 kbit VBR MP3 ist the best choice for high compress movies like 700 MB

[Leak]

Would you mind adding a download just for the updated version of Decomb somewhere? I'm not using GordianKnot, but a bugfixed version of Decomb would always be much appreciated... :)

(And I guess I'm not alone here - okay, I'm currently downloading the AutoGK update, but that's a tad bigger than just Decomb...)

np: Autechre - We R Are Why? (WAP72)

[len0x]

Originally posted by pixolex
:scared: credit compression just after 1.0 isn't it :( but you said that after 1.0 you will not have time to continue autogk developement :(

I never promised credits compression...

[len0x]

Originally posted by kockott
- Version 0.95b don't starts BeSweet with MP3 VBR 80 kbit, AutoGK use automatic the AC-3 Stream for Encoding - thats terrible - i need 80 kbit VBR MP3 ;)

- Version 0.92b works great with BeSweet by MP3 VBR 80 kbit - the Version 0.95b have a bug ?

What are you selecting in audio option ? Auto or VBR MP3 ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by duwde

The second subtitle option isn't working for me (I'm using 0.95b), only the primary subtitle is being generated. Example, if I choose English as the 1st sub, and portuguese as the 2nd, autogk shows "english" on both in the logfile and only the 1st one (english) is being generated (.idx and .rar).


Do you know how to switch between subs in vobsub ? Because only first one is displayed (the one which is selected in *.idx file). Your logs clearly indicate that everything was ok (log on the screenshots, just have a bug in it), but actual *.idx and *.sub should be fine.

p.s. to switch between subs right click on taskbars's icon of vobsub and select another one.

[len0x]

Originally posted by kockott
hmm thats uncool - Video Sound is not a Music CD - i think 80 kbit VBR MP3 ist the best choice for high compress movies like 700 MB

what's the problem ? manual selection of 80kbps with VBR MP3 should be always possible. Auto mode will not allow you to do that anymore (that was a bug). So please be _very_ specific when reporting bugs, I'm not a mind reader...

[nixo]

Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.

--
Nikolaj

[kockott]

Originally posted by len0x
what's the problem ? manual selection of 80kbps with VBR MP3 should be always possible. Auto mode will not allow you to do that anymore (that was a bug). So please be _very_ specific when reporting bugs, I'm not a mind reader...

yes manual selection of 80 kbit with VBR MP3 dooesn't works with 0.95 Autogk - BeSweet not encode the MP3 File - AutoGK use the AC3-File

autok 0.92 with the same configuration works for 80 kbit vbr manual

[len0x]

Originally posted by kockott
yes manual selection of 80 kbit with BVR MP3 dooesn't works with 0.95 Autogk - BeSweet not encode die MP3 File - AutoGK use the AC3-File


what's the target size/mode ?

[len0x]

with a fix for audio settings... (in 0.95 Auto mode was always used)

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
I never promised credits compression...


What do you think of the idea of allowing the (advanced) user to manually specify a frame number where the credits start?

Anyone advanced enough to know about credit compression could easily get the frame number from VDub or DVD2AVI. That way it wouldn't require auto detection of the credits, and it could just go in the advanced settings along with 2nd audio track.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Leak
Would you mind adding a download just for the updated version of Decomb somewhere? I'm not using GordianKnot, but a bugfixed version of Decomb would always be much appreciated... :)


I asked sh0dan and he put it here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70579

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by nixo
Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.

Thats a AutoGK bug - I get that too if AutoGK can't find Xvid.

[CeeJay.dk]

Len0x , after you stop focusing on AutoGK development would you please look into making Gordian Knot easier to use ?

I tried it again after not staying in touch with it for months and it really is a useability nightmare.

I suggest baseing it off the AutoGK interface with more "advanced" buttons under the normal options.
This way each steps settings could either be determined automaticly like AutoGK does it or manually.

You could even join the two programs into one codebase with two slightly different UI's.
That should make it easier to maintain both projects as improvements to one would also benefit the other.
Which UI should be started could then be determined by two different shortcuts to the program in the start menu.
One to start AutoGK - The simple mode , and one to start GK - full mode.

[CeeJay.dk]

0.96 have a very serious bug.

When you try to browse to the folder that contains the DVD data AUTOGK locks up and has to be killed using the taskmanager.

This ofcourse makes 0.96 totally unusable for me and to make it all worse I have deleted the 0.95 update so I can't go back to that one.

Please issue a fix soon.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
@Mtz

I fixed the problem with audio. Now Auto always means 128kbps, regardless grayed out option...

@therealjoeblow

I yet to discover that myself on 2CD rips (but this may happen more on 3CD rips). If the key frame is too far from 700Mb limit, then first file gets undersized a bit and you end up with a small chuck in the end. What is the exact size of whole avi and sizes of parts? (if you still have them).


Ok, I did another encode last night, 2-CD's (1400mb), AC3-6 channel sound, 640x352. AutoGK split the file and chopped about 25 seconds from the end, again before the credits ended. A manual split of the file at the same keyframe as AutoGK chose gave a full-length 2nd file (albeit, not a 50/50 split, but still, both parts are under 703mb, so no problem).

File sizes as follows:

Full File = 1.36 GB (1,467,996,160 bytes)

AutoGK Split 1 = 698 MB (732,002,304 bytes)
AutoGK Split 2 = 699 MB (733,673,472 bytes)

My Split 1 = 697 MB (731,703,296 bytes)
My Split 2 = 701 MB (735,731,712 bytes)
(see note 2 below about why file1 sizes are slightly different)


So, that's 4 out of 4 encodes that I've done where the autosplit does this - anyone else notice this happening? Really, it's not a big deal for me, since I prefer to split the files manually for the following 2 reasons:

1) Autospliting cannot employ artificial intelligence to pick the best split point - in many cases it will split the file right in the middle of an action scene, or even worse, during a conversation. Whereas, if you split the file manually, you can usually move back and forth a few keyframes and pick a better point like a scene change or a lull in conversation, and still be within the 700mb mark.

and

2) AutoKG *appears* to use the VDubMod interleave defaults of 500ms preload and interleave=1 frame for everything, including AC3 audio? In my experience those settings produce files that play back choppy during slow pans using the InterVideo audio codec (this doesn't appear to be as big a problem with the opensource AC3Filter codec, but then, not everyone uses that). Settings of 128ms and 128ms for interleave/preload playback perfectly smooth using any AC3 decoder. That, BTW is why my file1 is slightly different than AutoGK's file1, because the muxing overhead is a little lower with the 128ms/128ms settings (i'm sure the experts know this, it's noted only for those who care to learn a bit by reading these messages).

So, no big deal, as long as AutoGK will always leave the unsplit final file on completion - this will be an issue, though, if AutoGK is reprogrammed to delete the unsplit file on cleanup.

[kockott]

can i use fastest mode for divx 5.1.1 with autogk ? autogk use the standardmode

[kockott]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
0.96 have a very serious bug.

When you try to browse to the folder that contains the DVD data AUTOGK locks up and has to be killed using the taskmanager.

This ofcourse makes 0.96 totally unusable for me and to make it all worse I have deleted the 0.95 update so I can't go back to that one.

Please issue a fix soon.

the dvd data is decrypted ?

hmm here is the link for Version 0.92 - 0.95 i have already delete

but 0.96 makes 80 kbit vbr mp3 - big thx to len0x - and works fine

http://hektor.to.as.pl/dvdnew/AutoGordianKnot.0.92.beta.Update.exe

[duwde]

Hi Len0x

Why don't you insert a option (maybe a advanced or hidden option) to keep the output resolution in the same AR of the video or user defined AR ? I'll try to explain what I mean and why I think this is needed...

I'm using autogk 0.96b in some x-files episodes (4:3) and the output resolution is never exact 4:3, all I can get (using fixed resolution) are 576x448 (1,29), 640x496 (1,29), so I get some black bars in each side of the movie. I know those should be the optimal resolutions after cropping, after all, you know what you're doing, and that I can fix that in software players using zoom or even forcing a AR...

But as autogk is designed for beginners, and some beginners won't know how to fix that while playing... even worst, some hardware players won't allow that.. (I saw some people with this problem in this thread too)

It would be nice to have a option to allow us to get exact 4:3 resolutions, like 576x432 or 512x384 outputs, even if we need to discard some pixels somewhere in the cropping or anything. What do you think about it ?

Btw: Thanks for the second subtitle option and fixes, autogk is getting better everyday :)

[((( atom )))]

1) Autospliting cannot employ artificial intelligence to pick the best split point - in many cases it will split the file right in the middle of an action scene, or even worse, during a conversation. Whereas, if you split the file manually, you can usually move back and forth a few keyframes and pick a better point like a scene change or a lull in conversation, and still be within the 700mb mark. before i finally started keeping all my files on harddisks, i always used to split manually. one idea i had for automatic splitting, was to let the software check for any combination of a dark picture and low audio or even silence withing the range given by the max cd-size.
on the other hand i could imagine that to be quite difficult to program, since it might involve "playback" and analyse of audio, but i realyy don't know.. would be a very nice feature, though..

[Taurus]

0.96 have a very serious bug.

@CeeJay

I don't think it's a bug in AGKnot.
For me everything just work out fine.I can switch to any folder I like
without any errors. So I assume there's something wrong with your Setup.
Just uninstall everything related to AutoGK, give the 0.80 Version a
kick, update to 0.96 and you're system should be fine.
Maybe again there's another program fiddling around with your Windows.
So be careful not to blame AutoGk for things that might be on your side.
I'm doing a lot of testing right now and it seems to me everything is getting tighter and cleaner. The audio issue is solved, now let's go and have some fun.

Cheers
Taurus

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by Taurus
@CeeJay

Just uninstall everything related to AutoGK, give the 0.80 Version a
kick, update to 0.96 and you're system should be fine.


I tried running the 0.96 installer again and oddly it worked fine this time.
Maybe it didn't update AutoGK correctly the first time - I really don't have a clue to what the problem was , it just works now and I'm grateful for that.

The same programs are running that were running before - I haven't even rebooted or anything.

One of thoose days ?

[MinosK]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
before i finally started keeping all my files on harddisks, i always used to split manually. one idea i had for automatic splitting, was to let the software check for any combination of a dark picture and low audio or even silence withing the range given by the max cd-size.
on the other hand i could imagine that to be quite difficult to program, since it might involve "playback" and analyse of audio, but i realyy don't know.. would be a very nice feature, though..

I believe the best is to split the 1st video after ~15 second(or some keyframes) of the middle and the 2d before ~15 sec from the middle. right now, when a subtitle is at the end of first CD, you can see only a flash of it. When you put 2d CD the speech continues but without the subtitle.

[len0x]

Originally posted by nixo
Forgetting that I'd uninstalled Xvid, I tried to update AutoGK. Upon exiting - because I had no codec installed - the message box started "blinking", and I had to shut it down using ALt+Ctrl+Del. Not sure if this is a local problem or a bug.


Not sure that I follow that. Step by step, what are you doing? updating, installing running AutoGK? Exiting from where?

how it works (in latest versions):
- AutoGK started
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- window of autogk appears.
- everything runs normally.

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
Not sure that I follow that. Step by step, what are you doing? updating, installing running AutoGK? Exiting from where?

how it works (in latest versions):
- AutoGK started
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- window of autogk appears.
- everything runs normally.

I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.

Had AutoGK installed.
Installed Xvid 1.0 RC1 to see if it's decoder really was better as I hear.
Got curious and wanted to see what would happen if AutoGK ran with Xvid 1.0 RC1.

Started AutoGK.
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- DivX is not installed
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
.. etc
CTRL + ALT + DELETE

[quirky9]

curiousity blink the cat.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.


That's how a proper bug report should look like. How was I supposed to know that DivX wasn't installed either? Anyway, fixed.

[nixo]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk
I can tell you what I did to see the blinking.

Had AutoGK installed.
Installed Xvid 1.0 RC1 to see if it's decoder really was better as I hear.
Got curious and wanted to see what would happen if AutoGK ran with Xvid 1.0 RC1.

Started AutoGK.
- it can't find XviD
- message appears saying that divx will be used
- DivX is not installed
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
- it can't find XviD (blink)
.. etc
CTRL + ALT + DELETE

That's pretty much what happened to me. I had AutoGk installed, I uninstalled Xvid and then ran the update. Only difference is, I didn't have any version of Xvid/DivX installed.

--
Nikolaj

[duwde]

Hi Len0x

Could you please take a look at my question (and sugestion) at page 72 ? (last message on this page). It's about cropping/resizing.

Thanks

[len0x]

I'll try to go over some posts over the weekend, but can't promise anything. Due to serious troubles at work I won't discuss new feature/suggestions during next month. My focus is only bugfixing atm.

[((( atom )))]

Originally posted by duwde
Could you please take a look at my question (and sugestion) at page 72 ? (last message on this page). It's about cropping/resizing. on my 1600x1200 resolution we are currently on page 37. i came across that problem sometimes, already. does anybody know if there is a possibility to simply number the posts? that would make such things easier.

[pindawg]

First off, Len0x, great app! I'm probably the exact type of user you are targeting. I've used GKnot serveral times with varying success. I was very happy to come across AutoGK.

After using AutoGK now for serveral encodes, I guess I don't fully understand what setting to use to produce the results I'm looking for. My situation is that I'm more concerned with quality, over file size (to a point). I've made several encodes using the "Max quality unlimited size", and the file ends up about %50 smaller than the VOB's. If I use the quality 100%, it end up about 500 meg smaller than the unlimited. So I guess my question would be this, what do I gain by going unlimited (other than file size), over a quality percentage? Since I view these on a 96" srceen, picture quality is #1, but I hate to waste disk space if the gain is minimal.

Sorry for the noob question, but after much searching, I have yet to find an answer to this question. If there is an answer out there, please feel free to point me in that direction.

Thx

[jdion81]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
on my 1600x1200 resolution we are currently on page 37. i came across that problem sometimes, already. does anybody know if there is a possibility to simply number the posts? that would make such things easier.

They are numbered in a sense arent they? :

The post that duwde is referring to has the post date and time of:
11th February 2004 08:49

[CeeJay.dk]

If you have the posts per page set to the forum default then it's page 72 , and we are currently on page 73 unless this post causes us to go to page 74.

[SiXXGuNNZ]

using autogk for the first time right now, decided to use it for "The Professional" superbit dvd

I encoded it thru gk and didn't check if it was interlaced, so since I had to redo it anyway, I decided to try out this autoivtc thing in autogk :)

I didn't let the app pick audio or width, since I knew I wanted ac3 and 640byXXX on 2cd, so I set those things and away it went

will let ya know in the morning how it turned out :)

edit: page 49 here, but I like 30 posts per page :)

[intermezzo]

Umm... hi. I'm pretty good with VDubMod, AviSynth and all, and I haven't downloaded AutoGK yet (am now), but I was wondering if it doesn't have it if you could add a permanent subtitling feature? When I edit my GKnot AVS, it won't do it right. =( Help please.

[Edit] I forgot, I meant external subtitles from... SSA files or such? Please.

[silver_cpu]

I've noted in AutoGK that if it detects scene-specific interlacing (hybrid material such as Star Trek: Next Gen), it will search the entire title for interlacing thresholds. Is there a way to do this manually, in GK? I've been trying to figure out how AutoGK does this, but no luck. I'd just use AutoGK, but it doesn't support the newer Xvid releases. I'd appreciate any help at all, and I apologise beforehand if it's mentioned somewhere in this thread, it's a very large thread and difficult to read through.

Update: I've found the avs script that AutoGK creates (_.avs) to detect hybrid material, but I can't make sense of the interlace.log file that it writes. It writes true or false depending on whether a frame is interlaced or not, but if anyone could tell me how to use this output in GK, it would be greatly appreciated.

Update 2: Now it seems that AutoGK generates an avisynth script from the interlace.log output (_test.avs), but I can't make heads or tails of it, much less begin to generate my own such script. Would it be helpful to post the scripts here?

Update 3: Ok, now AutoGK seems to be on the final leg of the process, and it's given me a final avisynth script to encode the movie with. Is it possible to use the final script just like I would any other, but in GK? That's the question I'm about to answer, I'll keep posting as things progress.

Update 4: Something went wrong, I'm not sure what, but my system rebooted halfway through the process of encoding the video, so I'm going to need to redo things. I'm relatively sure I can get this to work, though.

And, are there any plans to incorporate Xvid 1.x support in AutoGK? At least for the compressability test...

[richarddd]

autogk is refusing to create a d2v file (and therefore won't run). if I manually create one, it deletes it, says it can't find one, and won't run.

See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70766 for a longer description.

Any suggestions?

[manono]

intermezzo, welcome to the forum-

No, you can't burn your own SSA subs into an AutoGK movie. However, it's easy enough to do when using GKnot, by adding them to the .avs. See this thread for how to do it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70631

Before encoding, open the .avs in VDubMod to check that they show up, are the right size, position, color, etc.

[quirky9]

Hi ..
Does anyone use AutoGK with AnyDVD or other similar programs instead of DVD Decrypter?
I tried it once with good results.
Just curious is it supposed to work ok, or i was lucky?
thnx

[zerocoolnl]

Some decrypt programs will work too. So it's a bit lucky ;-)

Zerocoolnl

[intermezzo]

Originally posted by manono
intermezzo, welcome to the forum-

No, you can't burn your own SSA subs into an AutoGK movie. However, it's easy enough to do when using GKnot, by adding them to the .avs. See this thread for how to do it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70631

Before encoding, open the .avs in VDubMod to check that they show up, are the right size, position, color, etc.

Arigatou gozaimasu! :D

Oh, and I'll just ask this question here so I won't have to start a new topic...

Does anyone know how to make audio sound better? I've got an old source, I know how to make the video better, but the audio is mono and I don't know how to muck with it. Is it possible? Thanks again for helping and for anyone who can help me with this. :)

[wertert]

I've just finished backing-up The Bourne Identity and it's given rise to an interesting point on subtitles.

The movie has lots of different languages which result in a few forced subtitles when watching the dvd. Subtitles appear during the non-english speech.

When using Autogk I normally do a 2 CD rip with AC3 sound. I always select 'use external subtitles' and select 'english' in the subtitle track where available. I like to have the subtitles available for when I watch the film on a noisy train into work ! I do not select 'display only forced' as I want everything.

The only problem is I seem to lose my forced subtitles. Viewing the .idx and .rar file in subresync shows that none of the subtitles are forced. I have to watch the movie with all subtitles on ( in zoom player ) to get the forced subtitles.

In an ideal world I would like;
.avi file with external subtitles.
movie plays with forced subtitles by default.
user can switch on full subtitles by request.

Any ideas? Am I looking at two subtitle tracks ?

On another topic t- his thread has just got too big ! As AutoGK is now very well established can we have a AutoGK subject directly off the doom9 forum

wertert

[manono]

Hi wertert-

Viewing the .idx and .rar file in subresync shows that none of the subtitles are forced.

So you're saying that the Forced Subs aren't in the main English Language Sub Stream? Then they must have their own separate stream. I don't have The Bourne Identity DVD, so I don't know which Stream that would be, but it's almost certainly one of the other English Sub Streams. If you open the idx file, scroll down to just before the time stamps start, and you'll see a couple of lines:

# Language index in use
langidx: 0

Changing the langidx to 1 or 2 (or some other higher number?) should get them to turn up. If necesssary, you can open the idx in Subtitle Tab->Configure in GKnot to see what all the streams are. After you track them down, switching the numbers back and forth should get you either the full English+Forced Subs, or the Forced Subs alone

An alternative would be to track down which Stream the Forced Subs are in, and then to OCR them into SRT or SSA format for those occasions that you want them alone. Doing that will result in you having 2 sub tracks, but the OCR'd one will be real small in size.

[Meestor_X]

Does anyone use AutoGK with AnyDVD or other similar programs instead of DVD Decrypter?
I tried it once with good results.
Just curious is it supposed to work ok, or i was lucky?I use DVDShrink, only for the fact that I can preview what I want to rip first. Works fine with AutoGK, and I really hope it always will! (touch wood) =)

[len0x]

I've been ill recently, so couldn't get this up earlier.
Very few minor changes. This is like Release Candidate (1.0 will follow shortly if no serious bugs reported. No support of XviD 1.0 will be there - do not ask for that).

[len0x]

Originally posted by quirky9
Hi ..
Does anyone use AutoGK with AnyDVD or other similar programs instead of DVD Decrypter?
I tried it once with good results.
Just curious is it supposed to work ok, or i was lucky?
thnx

I'm not testing/making it work/supporting any other rippers apart from DVDDecrypter. Moreover sometimes I find really frustrating solving out ripper-related issues here, so if it works for you - fine, good for you. But if you have issues then _before_ reporting any problems make sure you can reproduce it with DVDDecrypter rip.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by len0x
do not ask for that.And if they beg truly truly enough? :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by r6d2
And if they beg truly truly enough? :D

won't help either, but once AutoGK 1.0 is released I'm free to experiment with XviD in betas (so in fact this release's holding me up :) )

[r6d2]

Originally posted by len0x
won't help either [...]:)BTW, len0x. I've taken a look at your resizing scripts and logic and I must say you have a gift for simplicity!

Since I was unsuccessful at cross pollinating some of the MPEG-2 findings used in D2Sroba into AutoGK (like "automatic number of media" calculation and "keep the height" mode), I took the liberty to use some of your ideas with MPEG-2, like automatic resizer selection and full width encoding.
:thanks: a lot, pal.

[silver_cpu]

Just wanted to let everyone know that for some reason I have not been able to get the final avisynth script that AutoGK provides to work in a normal GK environment. I'm not sure why this is, but for how I'm giving up on it. I'll wait until AutoGK can handle the Xvid betas, and will work from there.

[CapBoy]

as you should remember, I told you that I had problems with autogkont in buffy the vampire slayer dvd's because of the desinterlace filter, and I whould like to know:

I can use "normal" Gknot to rip the episodes, it's OK, but I would like to know which xvid settings did autogknot used to rip the episodes because they look so great.

Is there any way to know it?

Thanks, and sorry for my bad english

[Hobojobo]

One feature request for AutoGK 1.x:

A hidden manually cropping feature.
What about that?
Let's say, I want to achieve a correct 4:3 ratio in 640:480 for my TV seasons/episodes. And I don't mind to loose some pixel on the right and left border.

Would that be a possibe feature in a future release ?

And btw, I like AutoGK more and more...

[davegould]

Originally posted by len0x
won't help either, but once AutoGK 1.0 is released I'm free to experiment with XviD in betas (so in fact this release's holding me up :) )

I have 5 movies in VOB format filling my hard disk, just in case you add XviD RC2 support to standard GKnot.

I know you're busy and I don't know how long it would take (the latest alphas almost work). I can always use older XVID releases so all I'm asking for is a guess at when this might happen.

Thanks for all your hard work and stay well!

[pindawg]

Only 5! I've got 19 patiently waiting. :D

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by manono
Viewing the .idx and .rar file in subresync shows that none of the subtitles are forced.

So you're saying that the Forced Subs aren't in the main English Language Sub Stream? Then they must have their own separate stream. I don't have The Bourne Identity DVD, so I don't know which Stream that would be, but it's almost certainly one of the other English Sub Streams. If you open the idx file, scroll down to just before the time stamps start, and you'll see a couple of lines:



manono, remember when you were helping me identify a similiar problem I was having trying to backup 007, Die Another Day? Just wanted to mention that with the help of another forum member I was able to identify the English "Forced Subtitles" as one of the Spanish subtitle tracks. Kind of strange but thought I would mentioned it for Wertert's sake.

AZEncoder-

[manono]

Oh, so they're not always in a different English language stream? Gee, they sure don't make it easy for us, do they? OK, thanks AZEncoder.

[Sumster]

Lenox

Just curious, when you use AutoGK to compress to a VBR MP3, what LAME settings does it use? The reason I ask is that I want to make sure Azid 1.9 is used to create a Dolby Pro-Logic II compatible downmix of the AC3, prior to using LAME. Also, as the output goes to an external amp, I would not want the LFE channel to be set at -3 db (only to the regular 0db).

Also, it the alt-preset standard used?

Thanks a million.

Sumster

[Taurus]

@Sumster
AutoGK is designed for Newbies, and so any ''special''implantations would just mess up with this Standard. Why don't you ''hear'' for yourself what Lame settings are used in AutoGk. If they don't suit your needs, you can take the AC3 Stream in your Rip Folder and make an
audiostream of your choice with Besweet, mux it as an second Audio Stream with VdubMod and do your compare.
I think LenOx has made a good job, specially since he added the Booster implantation, in audio conversion.
Just as I said: It's for newbies and lazy guys like me who don't want to hear the grass grow. I followed this threat from the early beginning and I wonder why so many people want all these extras.
As it is the main goal to keep it as simple as can be, any more ''extras'' are just irritating.
I prefer a slick, jet powerful machine more than all the gimmicks.
Cheers
Taurus

[((( atom )))]

@Taurus
i think developing a good software needs ppl who actively take part in that development. as you follow this thread for a while now, you should as well know, that the audio-settings have already been adjusted before upon the request of a user. this way the app could improve.
growth is important and to some the secret of improvement lies in not being satisfied so quickly.

[colinhunt]

Seems that people have been posting bug reports on this thread, so here's mine.

I ripped a bunch of cartoons from a DVD to separate directories with DVD Shrink 3.1.5, using the Reauthor function. That way I ended up with 17 "mini-DVDs", each in their own directory.

I then started the AutoGK 0.98b and added a bunch of jobs in the queue, all of them with same parameters (target quality 50, fixed width 480, DivX 5, VBR 128kbit).

First 7 episodes went through without a hitch, and I must say the quality was amazing, considering how small the avi-files were.

On the 8th episode I suddenly saw this in the log window:
Audio is not found.

After a few seconds, an error box jumped out, claiming:

----------------
VirtualDub Error
The function SetMode was called on a stream(?) that hasn't been previously initialized with SetSource.
----------------

Clicking OK aborted the job.

Now, I ripped the first 7 cartoons in exactly the same way I did the 8th cartoon. I re-ripped it, restarted AutoGK and tried again, with the same result. I then tried to encode cartoons 9-14, and they all aborted with that same error.

Apart from this little niggle, it's a brilliant piece of software. Thank you len0x!

.: colin

[gircobain]

The only ripping software fully supported is DVDDecrypter

Others may work at times, other times may not

Please read the tutorial (http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~len0x/tutorial/AutoGK.html)

[MomoNyo]

Hi all

I really caught the dvd-backup bug thanks to AutoGK. Finally the idiot-proof solution I'd long sought :) Many thanks len0x!!

Sorry to make my first post here a feature request, but it's something that I think would really make AutoGK that bit more "killer". Actually it was already requested a long time back IIRC.

That is a "no audio" option.

I use 6ch HE-AAC audio here in mkv containers and it's very awkward to try and guess an appropriate mp3 bitrate (to match my already-encoded AAC track) when encoding with AutoGK. It would be so much easier if I could disable the audio encoding and then set the target size of the output video file.

I tried to rip a "silent" movie with DVDDecrypter by using the stream processing feature to discard the audio track, but AutoGK aborted the encode when it failed to find any audio :(

This feature would also please those who asked about OGG/OGM/MKV support elsewhere in the thread as they could then take advantage of AutoGK's great encoding ability and still use their favourite audio/container with a little bit of extra work.

I know the aim of AutoGK is to make it n00b-friendly (which it is), but audio encoding and muxing isn't all that daunting for a newcomer.

Anyway, that's my little contribution so far. Keep up the good work and thanks again :)

[Gordie Howe]

@MomoNyo

I also requested a "No audio" option. I think the best argument is this: the only change to AutoGK is the addition of "No audio" to the audio list. A noob user wouldn't be bothered by any mention of alternative audio codecs or containers because it's not necessary to add that to AutoGK. Furthermore, "No audio" is very clear and self-explanatory so it wouldn't be confusing to noobs. The way I see it, "No audio" is a very helpful addition for advanced users, but is completely invisible to noob users.

[Taurus]

@((( atom )))
I totally agree to your opinion, but must say that Sumsters wishlist is far of the main goal for everydaypeople. Somebody who wants an attunation of the rear chanels for audio can do it with just twisting a knob at his amplifiers and vice versa. Normally the settings in the Besweet encoding range are good for,let's say 95% of the people,and for the rest there are many ways do do a more specialized task, which fills there needs.I own a very sophisticated soundsystem(not that crappy noisegenerators which are sold for PC's, and I must say I'm very pleased with the output of my encoded AVI's.
.....but just my opinion.
I'm watching the discussions over in the Audio forums and I know that there are some new ways to handle the surround informations are in progress. But for now the status quo that LenOx does implantate in AutoGk seems right.

Cheers

Taurus

[Sumster]

Hi Taurus...

Sorry... didn't mean to make a "wish" per se or to overly complicate AutoGK in any way. I was just curious as to what encoding setting were being used in the "background".

In the audio menu, an additional checkbox called "ProLogic II" could be added which, by default, uses the Azid Prologic II downmix. As you use an external amp, I am sure you can notice the difference between simple stereo soundtracks and surround.

I also agree with the above regarding a "no audio" option. For users like myself who LOVE autogK and the simplicity, it would be nice to be able to choose NO AUDIO, or to simply select an external audio file like in GK. That way, one could tweak their downmix, LAME settings, etc and still have the option of using AutoGK.

Thanks...

Sumster

[Flintstone]

Hi!

I've got a huge problem with AutoGK that might be related to my own setup for what I know, but I haven't found anything that might suggest that. When I encode my Buffy Season 3 set (PAL) I get this annoying red and green ghosting as seen on the capture below (image is from a 440mb encode of episode 18, and is cropped for clarity). As you can see Angel is just a moment from appearing.

http://www.pdapath.com/projects/XviD/buffy.jpg

Anyone have ANY idea what is causing this? Learning & using GK is not an option for stuff like encoding a whole season of Buffy... I know someone will tell me to search the forum, but I have, and didn't find any clue as to what this might be.

len0x: Thank you for a great product! It's great for us that just occasionally encode stuff. I even donated a few months ago - might do that again if the product improves. But please don't be so afraid of introducing advanced options - it's easy to hide such things from the 1click kiddies!!!


-
Flintstone

[len0x]

Which version of AutoGK are you using?
And if you can post the log file from the encode that would help as well.

[rmagere]

Just wondering: doesn't autogk automatically save the queue list?
I am using v0.98 and I enqued 7 items then to test I just closed the autogk window (I wasn't running any of the encodings they were just queued in waiting for me to press start). When I then opened autogk again I expected to find my 7 items instead the queue list was empty.

I was sure of remembering that some previous version (maybe 0.5) would have automatically saved and reloaded my queue list, am I just remembering wrong or is this a bug, or has this feature been removed for some reason?

Thanks

[len0x]

job saving never was implemented (job queue appeared only after 0.8 btw). and will not be in the near future...

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by Flintstone
Hi!

I've got a huge problem with AutoGK that might be related to my own setup for what I know, but I haven't found anything that might suggest that. When I encode my Buffy Season 3 set (PAL) I get this annoying red and green ghosting as seen on the capture below (image is from a 440mb encode of episode 18, and is cropped for clarity). As you can see Angel is just a moment from appearing.

http://www.pdapath.com/projects/XviD/buffy.jpg

Anyone have ANY idea what is causing this? Learning & using GK is not an option for stuff like encoding a whole season of Buffy... I know someone will tell me to search the forum, but I have, and didn't find any clue as to what this might be.

len0x: Thank you for a great product! It's great for us that just occasionally encode stuff. I even donated a few months ago - might do that again if the product improves. But please don't be so afraid of introducing advanced options - it's easy to hide such things from the 1click kiddies!!!


-
Flintstone
uhm... it seems to me a decoder issue or a wrong xvid codec version istalled.

[Taurus]

@Sumster....again

To make it clear:
Me,I'm also very much interested in good sounding playbacks on AVI files too.
Sometimes,when I'm not satisfied with an audiostream, I just rip it off with VirtalDubMod, take the AC3 Stream, fire up the Besweet Gui and set the jumpers to my please. Then mux it again.
So maybe your suggestion (and from others here)to insert a''No Audio''switch is the best way to overcome this struggle.
So anyone with a little knowledge can do his own task.
There are so many DVD's with poor audio quality or not standard behaviour (DTS)(PCM)(etc.), that it seems to be right to fit a ''No Audio'' choice in the AutoGk Gui.
But it depends on lenOx if there will be any more changes, as though he's just only into bugfixing for now.
Still satisfied with the defaults at present time, so keep up the GOOD WORK!

Cheers

Taurus

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by MomoNyo
Hi all

I really caught the dvd-backup bug thanks to AutoGK. Finally the idiot-proof solution I'd long sought :) Many thanks len0x!!

Sorry to make my first post here a feature request, but it's something that I think would really make AutoGK that bit more "killer". Actually it was already requested a long time back IIRC.

That is a "no audio" option.

I use 6ch HE-AAC audio here in mkv containers and it's very awkward to try and guess an appropriate mp3 bitrate (to match my already-encoded AAC track) when encoding with AutoGK. It would be so much easier if I could disable the audio encoding and then set the target size of the output video file.

I tried to rip a "silent" movie with DVDDecrypter by using the stream processing feature to discard the audio track, but AutoGK aborted the encode when it failed to find any audio :(

This feature would also please those who asked about OGG/OGM/MKV support elsewhere in the thread as they could then take advantage of AutoGK's great encoding ability and still use their favourite audio/container with a little bit of extra work.

I know the aim of AutoGK is to make it n00b-friendly (which it is), but audio encoding and muxing isn't all that daunting for a newcomer.

Anyway, that's my little contribution so far. Keep up the good work and thanks again :)

I'd agree that this support would be great, and add my request (with a big *please*), with one small addition - add a 'Demux Audio Only and Quit' option to AutoGK to start it and let it do all the work of extracting the AC3 audio - then you could encode the audio to whatever format your heart desires, rerun AutoGK with the 'No Audio' option, set your target size to whatever you calculate as needed, and go to town. Right now, I'm doing it bassakwards by running a full encode with Audio set to CBR of 96 or 128kbps, then running Oagmachine 3 or 4 times to get the audio to the correct size (it's trial and error with ogg audio, the bitrate setting is just a guestimate), then remuxing the AutoGK encoded video with the new ogg audio and discarding the AutoGK mp3 track. Works, but just a little painful. Could be so much simpler with a few additional (hidden if need be) options in AutoGK. Well, thankfully AutoGK leaves the gk_tmp directory with the extracted audio for you to work with at least.

[rantingotaku]

hmm, hopefully I don't start a flame war, but... as stated many pages ago about some requested features: that is what standard GordianKnot is for.

AutoGK was designed to help the new guys or n00bs with their video editing, never was it planned for those of us with advanced knowledge (though I use it for quick jobs that require no special attention to details), and so far it has lived up to what its creator has planned.

great job Len0x, I'll be using this until I finally give up on video editing (heh, yeah like that's gonna happen).

[Hoenemor]

I am one of the target user to AutoGK... I´m loving it :p please dont make it like Standard Gordian, I have spend hours and hours trying that :scared:

With AutoGK I can easily provide my family with avi movies :)

lenOx :thanks:

[r6d2]

To all of you asking for new features:
Originally posted by Hoenemor
I am one of the target user to AutoGK... I´m loving it :p please dont make it like Standard Gordian, I have spend hours and hours trying that :scared:

With AutoGK I can easily provide my family with avi movies :)

lenOx :thanks:
Please read, understand and learn this testimony before doing so. :)

[Hoenemor]

Please read, understand and learn this testimony before asking for new features.

:confused: I am not asking for any new features, I am just saying I wish AutoGK do not end up in a way where I no longer are clever enough to use it. To many option to make and to high age and to poor knowlegde of English...:o thats what make me drop a new program :(

Sorry for my bad english, I hope you do understand my point :)

[r6d2]

Originally posted by Hoenemor
:confused: I am not asking for any new features [...] I hope you do understand my point :) @Hoenemor, Sorry, I'm just emphasizing that you testimony is what AutoGK was designed for. It is a compliment to you since you are a target user and a thankful one! I'll add a note to clarify that.

I never thought you might take it the other way. :rolleyes:

[calinb]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Right now, I'm doing it bassakwards by running a full encode with Audio set to CBR of 96 or 128kbps, then running Oagmachine 3 or 4 times to get the audio to the correct size (it's trial and error with ogg audio,It's much easier to simply use AutoGK as a front end for GKnot. Just abort AutoGK when the 1st pass starts. Encode your audio however you please. Then open the d2v file in GKnot and select the audio file in GKnot (to get the audio size). Before saving, "edit" the avs file and paste the text from the AutoGK avs file into the new one--either that, or queue the job in GKnot and rename the AutoGK avs file to match the name GKnot expects.

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
I'd agree that this support would be great, and add my request (with a big *please*), with one small addition - add a 'Demux Audio Only and Quit' option to AutoGK to start it and let it do all the work of extracting the AC3 audio

I don't think this is necessary, since AutoGK just calls DVD2AVI to demux the audio. You can do this yourself, just open the vobs in DVD2AVI and demux the audio.

[len0x]

finally stable version is out - nothing new since 0.98 apart from updated documentation and the fact that those who afraid to use beta software can now use it :)

P.S. I'll be away from development environment for 10 days, so hopefully nothing serious will be discovered.

P.P.S. I finally had a look at XviD 1.0, so beta with support for it should be available in 2-3 weeks time.

[jeremymacmull]

with version 1.0 (and 98 beta )

i sometimes when launching AUTOGK get this error

RUNTIME ERROR 216 At 004035D6

i only happen occasionally my cofig is in my sig ive got hyperthreading on. most of the time it just launches fine and works well. Ive not set it to compatibility mode and when i launches it works fine (in fact very very well)

JEREMY

also next question why if divx is chosen for autogk does it only do two passes ?? and not the minimum 3 (from what ive heard here) ive got 5.1.1. set to normal mode (ie not slow or slowest but i dont know what autogk uses)
JEREMY

thanks for a great tool im doing DS9 and its working beautifully so much easier than doing them by GK ep by ep

[Taurus]

stable 1.0 is released


Great News, lenox! Thank you so much!
Especially the announcement of the XviD 1.0 support for AutoGk was something I've waited for.

Cheers

Taurus

[Lexx]

Good day! I use Auto Gordian Knot 0.8 and see what is very nise =)
But video encoding very long prosess...so i think will be great support some batch mode (such as have dr.divx) or just commandline?

Will be great, if you can select 2-3 films, go sleep, and at morning have all operations done!

PS.Sorry english not my moser language :/
With respect, Lexx

[manono]

Hi Lexx, and welcome to the forum-

Will be great, if you can select 2-3 films, go sleep, and at morning have all operations done!

Just upgrade to 1.0, and all your dreams will be answered (well, Batch Mode anyway).

[rmagere]

Just another question: is there a way to either:
a) permanently set the affinity of virtual dub to all processors or
b) to automatically make sure that whenever virtual dub is started its affinity is set to all processors?

Here I am not talking about hyperthreading (I tried enabling it once but I didn't like the results) but two physically different cpus.

Most programs seem to set themselves up fine (i.e. using all resources) but there are a couple (such as virtual dub) that don't - which is quite annoying especially when running it in batch mode.

Regarding stability (in case it's just a matter of calling virtual dub with a special switch): I have so far encoded about 20 movies and no problem whatsoever when enabling the two cpus (unlike with hyperthreading that does seem to lower stability).

Thanks

[jurij]

i got this message after indexing subtitles in the log:

[26/02/2004 17.13.57] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.


What is that suppose to mean?
I have winrar installed

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by jurij
i got this message after indexing subtitles in the log:

[26/02/2004 17.13.57] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.


What is that suppose to mean?
I have winrar installed

...and you're not using a current version of AutoGK, right? That bug was fixed 4 or 5 updates ago - install the v-1.0 stable release and you should be good to with subtitles.

[jurij]

i use 1.0!!!!

[jurij]

i use 1.0!!!!

[Taurus]

@ jurij
Maybe the ''trick'' discussed on several pages of this thread (a long time ago)will give you success.
Just open Winrar manually one time (and close it again)right before starting AutoGK. Maybe the path to winrar is not correctly set in the windows registry of your machine. Should be C:\Programs\Winrar....
Good luck.
Never had this kind of trouble, even on former releases of AutoGk, so just a suggestion.

Cheers

Taurus

[gircobain]

I don't know if this has been reported before but I'm getting error with 1.0 when I try to encode a movie with cbr mp3. The logfile:

[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Input dir: D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\VIDEO_TS
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Output file: D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\Harry.Potter.And.The.Phylosopher's.Stone.avi
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Audio: English
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Audio2: Portugues
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Subtitles: none
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Codec: XviD
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Target size: 1600Mb
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 144Kbps
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Started encoding.
[28/2/2004 19:31:37] Demuxing and indexing.
[28/2/2004 19:46:42] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[28/2/2004 19:46:42] Found 219174 frames
[28/2/2004 19:46:42] Encoding audio.
[28/2/2004 19:46:42] Encoding audio 2.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Audio is not found. Encoding aborted.
*************************************
[28/2/2004 19:46:42] Job finished.

BeSweet logfile:

BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 02/28/04 , 19:46:42.

d:\ARQUIV~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\gk_tmp\HARRY.POTTER.AND.THE.PHYLOSOPHER'S.STONE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -16ms.ac3 -output D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\gk_tmp\HARRY.POTTER.AND.THE.PHYLOSOPHER'S.STONE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -16ms.mp3 -logfile D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\gk_tmp\HARRY.POTTER.AND.THE.PHYLOSOPHER'S.STONE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -16ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h --cbr -b 144 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\gk_tmp\HARRY.POTTER.AND.THE.PHYLOSOPHER'S.STONE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -16ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: D:\HARRY_POTTER_PHILOSOPHERS_STON\Projeto\gk_tmp\HARRY.POTTER.AND.THE.PHYLOSOPHER'S.STONE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -16ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
Error 47: Error with LAME dll!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !
Logging ends : 02/28/04 , 19:46:42.

I tried doing it with 0.5 and 0.8 and both gave me the same error, which is weird, because I recall encoding movies with cbr mp3 using AutoGK somewhere in the past.

[yotsuya-san]

CBR@144 simply does not exist with Lame. I think it should be made not avaiable through AutoGK...just choose 128 or 160 if you want CBR audio, or go to ABR if you want 144 kbps.
Bye.

[Elnoyle]

What on earth? (AutoGK 1.0)

---------------------------------------------
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Input dir: C:\XviD-Projects
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Output file: C:\XviD-Projects\bluegender.avi
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Audio:
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Subtitles: none
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Codec: XviD
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Target size: 204Mb
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Started encoding.
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Access violation at address 004047E7 in module 'AutoGK.exe'. Read of address 3FEFFFFC
*************************************
[2/28/2004 6:26:15 PM] Job finished.
---------------------------------------------

I'm trying to process the VIDEO ONLY. Does AutoGK have problems with that sort of thing?

[manono]

Hi-

Does AutoGK have problems with that sort of thing?

Yes, it does. What did you do, remove the Audio with Stream Processing in DVDDecrypter? That's a guaranteed recipe for failure. At the moment AutoGK doesn't have the option to not do any audio processing, so it will abort if it doesn't find any Audio Streams.

The guide isn't clear on that point, but it's already been rewritten (but not yet published) to make it more clear.

[Elnoyle]

Alright, thanks for the info. That is indeed what I did.

[r6d2]

AutoGK gives me an error and reminds me of ripping in IFO mode, which is what I did. :confused:

DVDDecrypter, by LIGHTNING UK! - vStrip interface v2.1, by tylo
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- 2004-02-25 00:14:09
- Executing DVDDecrypter /START /CLOSE /OVERWRITE YES /MODE IFO /SRC F: /DEST "J:\Movies\El Nominado\Source" /ANGLE 1 /VTS 06 /PGC 1
- 2004-02-25 00:21:09

All other movies ripped with the same method have worked OK so far.

[zerocoolnl]

in DVD Decryptor you have to set the rip-method in IFO-mode, not file-mode. I think that's what they mean.

Zerocoolnl

[intermezzo]

len0x - Could I please make a small request and ask a question?

1. Could you put in a feature to encode external SSA, SRT, etc subtitles (permanently) onto the video please?

2. Does anybody know if there is a way to make your audio sound better? The audio on my source sucks. :o

[r6d2]

Originally posted by zerocoolnl
in DVD Decryptor you have to set the rip-method in IFO-mode, not file-mode. I think that's what they mean.Of course, that's what I'm saying. And that is what I did, as you can see in the log file.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hiho, i've found a bug in 1.0 stable:
autogk stops right after the comptest saying no avi file found, but ever intermedia file is in gk_tmp, like the comptest avi and the _.avi.

I tried encoding Gangs Of New York PAL DVD with german subtitles and german ac3 audio, here's the log:

[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Input dir: D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\GANGS_OF_NEW_YORK_VTS_01_PGC1
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Output file: C:\tmp\gangs\gony.avi
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Audio: Deutsch
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Subtitles: Deutsch Normal Captions
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Codec: XviD
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Target size: 1400Mb
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 512 pixels
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Custom audio settings: AC3
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Started encoding.
[02.03.2004 07:05:42] Demuxing and indexing.
[02.03.2004 07:07:53] Analyzing source.
[02.03.2004 07:07:53] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[02.03.2004 07:21:32] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 1,01
[02.03.2004 07:21:32] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[02.03.2004 07:21:32] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[02.03.2004 07:21:32] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[02.03.2004 07:35:09] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,98
[02.03.2004 07:35:09] Source is considered to be progressive.
[02.03.2004 07:35:09] Choosing alternative field order.
[02.03.2004 07:35:09] Found 239873 frames
[02.03.2004 07:35:09] Indexing subtitles.
[02.03.2004 07:35:10] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\GANGS_OF_NEW_YORK_VTS_01_PGC1\VTS_01_0.ifo
C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\gony
1
0
0 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] Audio size: 460,449,792 bytes (439.12 Mb)
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] Overhead: 2,848,512 bytes (2.72 Mb)
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] Video size: 1,004,708,096 bytes (958.16 Mb)
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] Running compressibility test.
[02.03.2004 07:37:27] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\gony_comptest.avs
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LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\gony_alt.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
VobSub("C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\gony.idx")
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
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[02.03.2004 07:37:28] Writing the following script to C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
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VirtualDub.Open("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\gony_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\tmp\\gangs\\gk_tmp\\gony_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[02.03.2004 07:53:06] Duration was: 15 minutes 38 seconds
[02.03.2004 07:53:07] Speed was: 12,78 fps.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Open avi failed.
*************************************
[02.03.2004 07:53:08] Job finished.

[Taurus]

@GizmoDerMokwai

movie = mpeg2source("C:\tmp\gangs\gk_tmp\gony_alt.d2v")

What happened to your mpeg2source?
Why is there an ''*_alt'' in your ''gony_alt.d2v'' DVD2AVI file?
Never did happen to me, that AutoGK changes names of the files.
Maybe you fiddled around with *.d2v files before encoding with AutoGK.
and something was left in the path.
Make sure, before starting AutoGK, that the Folder you are encoding to is empty. Only the ripped DVD Files from DVDDecrypter should be there.

Cheers

Taurus

[GizmoDerMokwai]

don't know, used a "clean" dir for conversion. i tried ripping it again to that path, also canceled after comptest. now im testing with different file name and path

[rantingotaku]

I never thought I'd find myself asking this... a no audio option would be really nice :eek: (I'm experimenting with dual audio files)

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
I never thought I'd find myself asking this... a no audio option would be really nice :eek: (I'm experimenting with dual audio files) The no audio option has been asked 1000 (or more) times.
I don't know if len0x is going to add it in a future release. Maybe... :)

[wiruzdk]

the sound is a little after the movie that is not very cool :(

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
don't know, used a "clean" dir for conversion. i tried ripping it again to that path, also canceled after comptest. now im testing with different file name and path

hi, i've tested encoding with 0.96b, same problem...

[EmSiV]

Hi everybody. (First, escuse me for my English)

Couldn't be a "Source range" feature useful? ;)
What if I'd want to encode with AutoGK and cut end titles? :)

Thank you :)

[AZEncoder]

Okay, I started backing up some of my Star Trek Deep Space Nine episodes and the size is way off. It is approximately 45 minutes long usually a little more than 65,000 frames and I am choosing to make them 700MB so they will fit on a single CD. I have encoded approximately 130 movies or TV episdoes with a variety of the betas as well as the 1.0 stable version and never was off by more than 1 or 2MB's. I have encoded 4 episodes and all of them have been off anywhere from 20MB to 40MB short of the 700MB size I am shooting for. They are always short. Is there something I am missing? Is the comp test too short? Anybody got any ideas?

I used 1.0 and Xvid on all 4 of them. I am going to try it with the Divx codec and see what happens. FYI . . . I encode everything at forced 640 width I choose auto for the audio. No subtitles, AC3 2Ch for audio.

AZEncoder

[GizmoDerMokwai]

as you said, you used 700mb for 45min and fixed width of 640, i think, that the episodes don't need mor space/bitrate do ahve 100% quality in that fixed resolution. Try auto width or try putting episode on 350MB width mp3 audio, you'll see that there isn't any undersize. It's just the fact, that you episodes don't need more bitrate to have 100% quality in this resolution...

[manono]

Yeah, I think I agree with Gizmo. If you look at the log, what was the compress test result? If it's over 100% or even close to it, then you maxed out the quality and size. They look good, don't they?

And using DivX 5 should produce an even smaller size, since it uses a softer matrix.

[Iznobad]

//This post was made in error. My suggested idea was already implemented

It was a classic user error, delete user, reinstall user and give rebirth :)

[AZEncoder]

Originally posted by manono
Yeah, I think I agree with Gizmo. If you look at the log, what was the compress test result? If it's over 100% or even close to it, then you maxed out the quality and size. They look good, don't they?

And using DivX 5 should produce an even smaller size, since it uses a softer matrix.

Thanks guys for helping me learn more about the encoding process. I realize I am still a total amatuer, but now I know a little more about compressibility. See below for the section of the log file that gives me the clues to my own ignorance.

Thanks again!

As part of the documentation it might be useful for a lot of us newbies to create a walk through explanation of key lines/information in the log file.

AZEncoder

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[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Duration was: 11 minutes 0 seconds
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Speed was: 4.95 fps.
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 182.51
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Using sharper matrix
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Switching b-frames off
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x496 ( AR: 1.29 )
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 116.25
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Running first pass.
[3/4/2004 10:26:47 AM] Writing the following script to K:\DVD\Ripped\DSP9-405\gk_tmp\DSP9-405-AGK_movie.avs
===========================================================

[manono]

Hi-

As part of the documentation it might be useful for a lot of us newbies to create a walk through explanation of key lines/information in the log file.

Your wish is my command. (http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~len0x/tutorial/AutoGK.html#5)

[Flintstone]

Regarding the post below. Encoded today with AutoGK v1.0 (sorry it took so long) and it still looks like crap with exactly the same problems. Extremly bad on all my computers! I haven't seen such a bad encode in a loong time, so something must be wrong with detection of interlacing maybe - not that I know that much about the source material.

Someone must have a solution to this thing!! :)

Here is the complete logfile:

[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Input dir: P:\03x18
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Output file: C:\buffy18.avi
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Audio: English
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Audio2: English
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Subtitles: English : Normal
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Codec: XviD
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Target size: 440Mb
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Started encoding.
[3/5/2004 6:03:04 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/5/2004 6:04:58 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/5/2004 6:07:49 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[3/5/2004 6:07:49 PM] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[3/5/2004 6:10:31 PM] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[3/5/2004 6:10:31 PM] Found 64261 frames
[3/5/2004 6:10:31 PM] Encoding audio 2.
[3/5/2004 6:15:31 PM] Indexing subtitles.
[3/5/2004 6:16:44 PM] Compressing subtitles.
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Audio size: 61,690,368 bytes (58.83 Mb)
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Audio 2 size: 42,631,352 bytes (40.66 Mb)
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Overhead: 1,526,272 bytes (1.46 Mb)
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Subtitles size: 462,788 bytes (0.44 Mb)
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Video size: 355,062,660 bytes (338.61 Mb)
[3/5/2004 6:16:46 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Duration was: 4 minutes 34 seconds
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Speed was: 11.69 fps.
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 54.78
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Chosen resolution is: 544x432 ( AR: 1.26 )
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 73.99
[3/5/2004 6:21:21 PM] Running first pass.
[3/5/2004 7:11:32 PM] Duration was: 50 minutes 11 seconds
[3/5/2004 7:11:32 PM] Speed was: 21.34 fps.
[3/5/2004 7:11:32 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 76.15
[3/5/2004 7:11:32 PM] Running second pass.
[3/5/2004 8:00:42 PM] Duration was: 49 minutes 9 seconds
[3/5/2004 8:00:42 PM] Speed was: 21.78 fps.
[3/5/2004 8:00:42 PM] Job finished.

Originally posted by Flintstone
Hi!

I've got a huge problem with AutoGK that might be related to my own setup for what I know, but I haven't found anything that might suggest that. When I encode my Buffy Season 3 set (PAL) I get this annoying red and green ghosting as seen on the capture below (image is from a 440mb encode of episode 18, and is cropped for clarity). As you can see Angel is just a moment from appearing.

http://www.pdapath.com/projects/XviD/buffy.jpg

Anyone have ANY idea what is causing this? Learning & using GK is not an option for stuff like encoding a whole season of Buffy... I know someone will tell me to search the forum, but I have, and didn't find any clue as to what this might be.

len0x: Thank you for a great product! It's great for us that just occasionally encode stuff. I even donated a few months ago - might do that again if the product improves. But please don't be so afraid of introducing advanced options - it's easy to hide such things from the 1click kiddies!!!


-
Flintstone

[Flintstone]

Oh... Another bug. The encode above was encoded with two AC3 tracks. One of them was converted to MP3 increasing its size and making it crappy quality. Original AC3 file was 30 mb. MP3 turned out to be 41 mb. I hope I have an old version of Auto GK somewhere. This is not good AT ALL!!!!!

[manono]

Hi-

Oh... Another bug.

That's not a bug; that's a feature. The second audio track will be encoded at MP3 ABR 128 by default. It's documented in the guide:

See here (http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~len0x/tutorial/AutoGK.html#4)

I'm not quite sure how the MP3 wound up larger than the AC3, unless that AC3 was Mono to begin with. One thing you might try is to go into Advanced Settings and set it for AC3 instead of Auto. I'm not positive it'll work to make them both AC3, but I think it will.

About your ghosting problem; I'm not positive about this, and I'd have to see a vob sample to be sure, and I didn't think that AutoGK made this kind of mistake. There's a good chance that it shouldn't have been deinterlaced, but Telecide applied to realign the fields to make progressive frames. If that's true, then the ghosting would disappear. On the other hand, there's also a good chance that the transfer to PAL was botched for the Buffy DVDs, and deinterlacing is all that could be done, and AutoGK chose correctly. Maybe someone that has encoded the Buffy PAL series will see this and comment. But again, I'd have to see a vob sample to be sure. If you think you can make one available to me, then PM me about how I can get it, and I'll have a look.

[Gordie Howe]

I've found what might be a bug with AutoGK encoding sources with non-standard AR. I just encoded an interview from the Frida dvd which had an AR close to 4:3, and AutoGK has chopped off the top and bottom to give an AR close to 16:9

MPC screengrabs: here (http://www.dart.net.au/users/butters/frida2.jpg) is the source, here (http://www.dart.net.au/users/butters/frida.jpg) is the encoded result. Logfile is here (http://www.dart.net.au/users/butters/Salma_gk.txt).

Something similar happened with an interview I encoded from another dvd, although I didn't realise until after I had deleted the vobs & logfiles. But I can say for sure that this is the second time it's happened with AutoGK 1.0. This occurred when I encoded to a fixed file size, and also to a 60% target quality.

Has anyone else experienced this?

edit: fixed links

[manono]

Hi Gordie-

I can't get the source (it says this page can't be found), so I can't tell if you're correct (although I'm pretty sure you are). However, it's not at all uncommon for the extras to be widescreen, yet encoded with a DAR of 4:3. And there's a good chance also that part of that particular extra has widescreen footage (from the movie, perhaps) as well as full screen parts. If it encodes the whole thing as fullscreen, then the widescreen parts will have black bars above and below. I do agree with you that it would be better that way. Then nothing gets cut off (like Salma Hayak's lovely head). It's kind of a choice that AutoGK makes. Maybe there's more widescreen parts in that extra than fullscreen parts. I think if you want to encode it as fullscreen, you may have to do it through the full GKnot.

But maybe len0x will have something to say when he gets back.

Iron and Wine sound a lot like Simon And Garfunkel. Are you one of the members? Nice guitar picking. Nice harmonies.

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by manono
And there's a good chance also that part of that particular extra has widescreen footage (from the movie, perhaps) as well as full screen parts. If it encodes the whole thing as fullscreen, then the widescreen parts will have black bars above and below.

I didn't think of that, but after watching the interview I can say that the whole thing is fullscreen, there is no footage other than the interview. I fixed my links above so it's easier to see what I mean. A bit of extra information: this happened with DivX 5.1.1, but also happened after I restarted AutoGK and used the "Preview" option.


Iron and Wine sound a lot like Simon And Garfunkel. Are you one of the members? Nice guitar picking. Nice harmonies.

No it's not me :), just a track from their latest album. The webpage is here (http://www.ironandwine.com/), they're on Sub Pop.

[Flintstone]

[removed to avoid doom9.org ban]

[manono]

Hey Gordie-

Yep, you made a believer out of me. I don't know why it wound up like that. Gotta wait for len0x to get back to see if he can explain it.

[starwave]

I'm very interested on AVI input for Auto GK in addition to VOB's input. Sometimes I need to re-encode old AVI files because they have problems on standalones because of QPel & another things.
I know it can be made using VirtualDubMod but : imagine you want to put 7 movies of 700MB each onto one single DVD. Of course they have to be recompressed to 640MB but for preserving quality, movie has to be resized down and I don't know another program like Auto GK can do it at the same quality and using batch mode (Dr. DivX is a shit).
I think other users wants too this feature. I'm not sure len0x want to implement it but I think it will be very useful and is very very simply to program. It's a pity source code is not available...

[((( atom )))]

got a weirdo here:
after installing autogk on a freshly installed w2k machine (p4) i was able to fire it up exactly once. the next time i booted the machine, i got the message "autogk has experienced a problem and nedds to be closed". that's it.

neiter uninstalling an reinstalling, nor any direct-x- or windows-updates do the trick.

any ideas around? i really don't want to reinstall windows..

[Azik]

Originally posted by starwave
I'm very interested on AVI input for Auto GK in addition to VOB's input. Sometimes I need to re-encode old AVI files because they have problems on standalones because of QPel & another things.
I know it can be made using VirtualDubMod but : imagine you want to put 7 movies of 700MB each onto one single DVD. Of course they have to be recompressed to 640MB but for preserving quality, movie has to be resized down and I don't know another program like Auto GK can do it at the same quality and using batch mode (Dr. DivX is a shit).
I think other users wants too this feature. I'm not sure len0x want to implement it but I think it will be very useful and is very very simply to program. It's a pity source code is not available...
I am fully agree!

[Taurus]

((( @atom )))
Hypertreading enabled?
I don't know if on a win 2000 machine you can put AutoGk in win98 comptibility mode.
Or try disabling hypertreading in bios, just for testing.
Good luck!
Have you tried former AutoGk Installs, maybe 0.80 version?

cheers

Taurus

[rantingotaku]

so HT may cause problems under XP as well? I've almost converted a friend of mine to autoGK, but he has an HT capable processor...

[rmagere]

I have a computer running two processors HT capable and I must say that usually when I enable HT I get a loss in performace so I think that the HT problem is not a big one (although virtualdub setting its affinity to only one of the two processor rather than both is v. annoying as that is a significant performace loss when I run a batch and I am away).

Also if you enable win98 compatibility mode on AGK you can run it even with HT enabled - however I think it's a tad unstable.

[((( atom )))]

i will try the suggested options. what makes me wonder, though, is the fact that it did a complete encode right after istallation.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi, i tried ancoding another PAL DVD with AutoGK. The DVD was scanned as being pal interlaced with different field orders, but i know for sure, that the dvd isn't interlaced, just like the gang of new york pal dvd, which autogk also handled as beeing interlacing....

here a little screenshot, of what tha se7en/sieben DVD looks after encoding

http://free.pages.at/oldskool1951/snapshot20040309155610.jpg

This Blurry pixels are all over the movie. when encoding manuelly via avisynth without deinterlacing, everything is fine, no blurry pixles, no interlacing failures....


Here's the log of se7en:
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Input dir: D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\SIEBEN_VTS_01_PGC1
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Output file: D:\tmp\sieben.avi
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Audio: Deutsch
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Subtitles: none
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Codec: XviD
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Target size: 1400Mb
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 512 pixels
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Custom audio settings: AC3
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Started encoding.
[09.03.2004 07:43:26] Demuxing and indexing.
[09.03.2004 07:45:42] Analyzing source.
[09.03.2004 07:45:42] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 07:55:16] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 28,28
[09.03.2004 07:55:16] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[09.03.2004 07:55:17] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[09.03.2004 07:55:17] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 28,21
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Found 182451 frames
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Audio size: 408,676,352 bytes (389.74 Mb)
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Overhead: 2,166,656 bytes (2.07 Mb)
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Video size: 1,057,163,392 bytes (1008.19 Mb)
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Running compressibility test.
[09.03.2004 08:04:52] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\sieben_comptest.avs
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LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\sieben.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 08:04:53] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\sieben_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\sieben_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 08:20:33] Duration was: 15 minutes 40 seconds
[09.03.2004 08:20:33] Speed was: 9,70 fps.
[09.03.2004 08:20:34] Compressibility percentage is: 89,64
[09.03.2004 08:20:34] Chosen resolution is: 704x304 ( AR: 2,32 )
[09.03.2004 08:20:34] Predicted comptest value is: 89,64
[09.03.2004 08:20:34] Running first pass.
[09.03.2004 08:20:34] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\sieben_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\sieben.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 08:20:35] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\sieben_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\sieben.avi");
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 12:36:48] Duration was: 4 hours 16 minutes 12 seconds
[09.03.2004 12:36:48] Speed was: 11,87 fps.
[09.03.2004 12:36:49] Expected quality of first pass size: 91,50
[09.03.2004 12:36:49] Running second pass.
[09.03.2004 12:36:49] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\sieben_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\SIEBEN AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 9ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,9);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\sieben.avi");
===========================================================
[09.03.2004 15:50:46] Duration was: 3 hours 13 minutes 56 seconds
[09.03.2004 15:50:46] Speed was: 15,68 fps.
[09.03.2004 15:50:46] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf

[gatormac]

I just tried this for the fun of it (had to uninstall XVID RC3 and reinstall the old XVID) and I must say it is a pretty nice program. The only thing I don't like is the fact that you can't edit an avisynth file and you can't adjust the bitrate or resolution after doing a compression test....but I do understand that this is for newbies who probably wouldn't do these things.

@lenox

When XVID 1.0 final is released, how long do you think it will be before AutoGK and GK will be updated?

[calinb]

Originally posted by EmSiV
Couldn't be a "Source range" feature useful? ;)EmSiV, although not a supported "feature," this is very easy to do with AutoGK. As soon as DVD2AVI launches, do the following: right click DVD2AVI in the taskbar >> restore >> <esc> key >> hit a right or left arrow key. Now move the progress bar and enter your mark in/out points, hit F4 and resave to the same d2v file. AutoGK will continue to encode normally with the new range. The only downside to this workaround is it effectively renders the job queue unusable.

[gatormac]

I think adding a selection for noise reduction like GK would be user friendly. Most idiots can tell that a video source has noise and how bad it is (light, medium, heavy, etc.). I could see myself using AutoGK, but if a source is noisy...I just can't stand it, so I would have to use Gknot/VDub method.

[rantingotaku]

found a weird issue.. I don't know if it was a bad rip, or if the dvd was bad...

I'm trying to rip "The Returner" .. it encodes the audio wonderfully, but the subtitles aren't reported properly.. it shows 2x Chinese, 2x English, and 1x unknown (in AutoGK), when I try any of them, they always come out in Chinese subtitles :confused:

currently, I've ripped just the english ones straight from the dvd, and am going to try and paste them over the ones that autoGK rips before it starts encoding the actual movie.

I'll post the results in case anyone else has had these problems

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by gatormac
I think adding a selection for noise reduction like GK would be user friendly. Most idiots can tell that a video source has noise and how bad it is (light, medium, heavy, etc.). I could see myself using AutoGK, but if a source is noisy...I just can't stand it, so I would have to use Gknot/VDub method.
That's not a bad idea, but i would rather add a sharpness <----> noise control.
In that way AutoGK could make some decision on filter parameters and which matrixes to use.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Flintstone
Regarding the post below. Encoded today with AutoGK v1.0 (sorry it took so long) and it still looks like crap with exactly the same problems. Extremly bad on all my computers! I haven't seen such a bad encode in a loong time, so something must be wrong with detection of interlacing maybe - not that I know that much about the source material.

remind me which episode of Buffy is it and I'll check it out myself.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Gordie Howe
I've found what might be a bug with AutoGK encoding sources with non-standard AR. I just encoded an interview from the Frida dvd which had an AR close to 4:3, and AutoGK has chopped off the top and bottom to give an AR close to 16:9


try playing with AVS file and changing threshold parameter of autocrop and see what's the result. I bet it's the cause (but no solution yet).

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hi, i tried ancoding another PAL DVD with AutoGK. The DVD was scanned as being pal interlaced with different field orders, but i know for sure, that the dvd isn't interlaced, just like the gang of new york pal dvd, which autogk also handled as beeing interlacing....


well, to me it looks like its not really a PAL at all, but 28% of interlacing may mean that it's NTSC but somehow bad mastered as PAL on DVD... can you post a fragment from you interlace.log file ?

[AZEncoder]

Ok, I have now encoded close to 200 "Videos". Most of those were TV episodes of some of my favorite series. AutoGK is about as good as it gets for ease of use. I am not intending to start a holy war but I am dying to ask what the future holds. I have run into a small number of things that I wish it would do and I wonder if any of those will ever see the light of day.

So even though I regularly read this forum, I also realize that I don't always retain everything I read amongst the hundreds (maybe it's thousands now) of messages.

What is on the horizon for future of AutoGK?

I know that len0x has said that his whole goal behind creating AutoGK was to keep it simple, so I am interested in understanding what that means.

Thanks len0x!!

Also, I can afford to make this next statement because I have contributed twice in what I would consider were healthy amounts to len0x as a way of expressing my appreciation for his hard work.

I challenge each and every one of you who are currently benefiting from all of len0x's hard work to contribute something via PayPal to him. I have spent good money on way too many pieces of software that turned out to be nothing but a bunch of junk. AutoGK on the other hand is an awesome piece of work that is probably being used by way too many people that have contributed nothing monetarily and probably nothing to this forum. I would agree with what some of you are thinking at this moment "AZEncoder hasn't contributed anything to this forum either", but I would argue the point about contributing to len0x financially.

So crack open the wallet and give len0x some encouragement to keep spending enormous amounts of his time on AutoGK and GK.
<<chmod - soap box off>>

Thanks for a great community and forum and of course once again endless thanks go to len0x!!!!!

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
remind me which episode of Buffy is it and I'll check it out myself.

I found ep 3x18 and examined frame number 360 which you have screenshot of. So there is nothing that wrong with the source there, but since deinterlacer is applied then redish stuff you see is a part of the next frame. Bad deinterlacer job (first time I see that with KernelDeInt). Tried TomsMoComp and FieldDeinterlace - no problems. Then found out that reducing threshold for KernelDeInt to 5 fixes the problem, but nothing in AutoGK can be done to solve this atm.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by len0x
well, to me it looks like its not really a PAL at all, but 28% of interlacing may mean that it's NTSC but somehow bad mastered as PAL on DVD... can you post a fragment from you interlace.log file ?

sorry, i've lent out the dvd, i'll drop a little past of the interlaced.log later. one other question, can you plz add a (hidden" max width options, cause my standalone player (elta) has problems with resolution lager than 640 on cdr...

[len0x]

Nothing much apart from several bugfixes and automatic support of XVID 1.0. Most of the testing I did was with it, so please test old xvid versions as well (which should work like they used to).

P.S. Liked AZEncoder's post and yes, new wave of donations from those who never did so, would be much appreciated!

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by len0x
Nothing much apart from several bugfixes and automatic support of XVID 1.0.

nice!! long awaited :)

thanks len0x...

[CapBoy]

Originally posted by len0x
I found ep 3x18 and examined frame number 360 which you have screenshot of. So there is nothing that wrong with the source there, but since deinterlacer is applied then redish stuff you see is a part of the next frame. Bad deinterlacer job (first time I see that with KernelDeInt). Tried TomsMoComp and FieldDeinterlace - no problems. Then found out that reducing threshold for KernelDeInt to 5 fixes the problem, but nothing in AutoGK can be done to solve this atm.

Hi len0x.

Could you tell me how to "reduce threshold for KernelDeInt to 5"?

'Cause I'm also backing up my buffy dvd's and I would like to know how to do that.

Thanks

[gatormac]

Originally posted by len0x
Nothing much apart from several bugfixes and automatic support of XVID 1.0. Most of the testing I did was with it, so please test old xvid versions as well (which should work like they used to).

P.S. Liked AZEncoder's post and yes, new wave of donations from those who never did so, would be much appreciated!

I've tested the beta after reinstalling XVID 1.0 RC3 with a few trailers and the results are excellent! Good work and thank you! Theres no reason for anybody to not update to XVID 1.0 now.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CapBoy
Hi len0x.

Could you tell me how to "reduce threshold for KernelDeInt to 5"?

'Cause I'm also backing up my buffy dvd's and I would like to know how to do that.


If you're encoding manually then in the avs file you have something like this:

KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)

Which is used by both GK(if kernel deinterlacer used there) and AutoGK. This can be changed to:

KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true,threshold=5)

But as I said only if you're using GK or manual encoding. In AutoGK you cannot change that atm.

[CeeJay.dk]

I just tried encoding Ciderhouse as a 2CD Xvid 1.0 RC3.

The quality is awesome !
But the problem with the subs is still there :(

The subtitles disappear around 75% into the movie.
(I'm using external subtitles btw)

Len0x : Have you any idea about whats going on here and how to fix it ?

And does someone know of a good way to rip the subtitles manually and split them over 2 CD's so i can manually make the subtitles and forget about this ?

[plazz2000]

len0x, thanks for releasing support for XviD 1.0! I'm in the middle of the second pass of a test encode now.

Can I ask what XviD 1.0 settings AGK will use by default? I ask because I'm wondering about compatability for my elta 8883.

I've looked at what the settings are now for the codec, and it looks like:

MPEG-Custom (which matrix in use?)
No adaptive quant, no QpeL, no GMC.
Bframes (1/1.5/1, no packed bitstream)
Chroma Optimizer
Motion search Level 6
VHQ 1
Use chroma motion
No Trellis

If these indeed are the default AGK settings, it all looks very good. It should play on my elta 8883, I'll try my encode when it's done.
But in the quantizer restriction settings, the minimum is 2 and the maximum is 3 for I, P and B frames. Is there a reason for this being different to the XviD defaults?

(I'm using gamer's 12/03 build)

[rmagere]

I encoded a few trailers (spiderman and princess mononoke)in different ways and they came out looking really good.

Just a quick question what is the setting for the maximum keyframe distance? is it a constant value or do you set it to 25 for pal and 24 or 30 for ntsc? Also how is the sound interleaved, is it every frame?

Is not important, kind of just curious as I have noticed that whenever I skip through a movie/trailer the sound takes much longer to catch up with the video when I have encoded them using agk xvid set-up then when I encode the same material using gk xvid or gk divx set-up.

[SonGokuDBZ]

I have a small problem:

I made some test rips with AutoGK 1.05 beta and Koepi's Xvid 1.0.0 RC-3. Everything went fine (Compressibility Test and so on) but the final movie was undersized (708MB -> 334MB). Don't know how this could happen, maybe somebody can help me. (If someone need the Log, I could post it)

thanks

[len0x]

Originally posted by SonGokuDBZ
I have a small problem:

I made some test rips with AutoGK 1.05 beta and Koepi's Xvid 1.0.0 RC-3. Everything went fine (Compressibility Test and so on) but the final movie was undersized (708MB -> 334MB). Don't know how this could happen, maybe somebody can help me. (If someone need the Log, I could post it)


It would have saved time if you posted the log straight away.

[SonGokuDBZ]

OK, you are right! Here's the Log:


[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Input dir: S:\Identity\VIDEO_TS
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Output file: M:\Identity - Neu.avi
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Audio: English
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Subtitles: none
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Codec: XviD
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Target size: 708Mb
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Custom audio settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 64Kbps
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Started encoding.
[14.03.2004 23:27:35] Demuxing and indexing.
[14.03.2004 23:28:59] Analyzing source.
[14.03.2004 23:29:00] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("M:\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("M:\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[14.03.2004 23:34:22] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 2,51
[14.03.2004 23:34:22] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[14.03.2004 23:34:23] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[14.03.2004 23:34:23] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("M:\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("M:\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[14.03.2004 23:39:53] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 2,47
[14.03.2004 23:39:53] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[14.03.2004 23:39:53] Found 131371 frames
[14.03.2004 23:39:53] Encoding audio.
[14.03.2004 23:45:22] Audio size: 42,039,925 bytes (40.09 Mb)
[14.03.2004 23:45:22] Overhead: 1,560,064 bytes (1.49 Mb)
[14.03.2004 23:45:22] Video size: 698,791,819 bytes (666.42 Mb)
[14.03.2004 23:45:23] Running compressibility test.
[14.03.2004 23:45:23] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\Identity - Neu_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("M:\gk_tmp\Identity - Neu.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[14.03.2004 23:45:23] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("M:\\gk_tmp\\Identity - Neu_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("M:\\gk_tmp\\Identity - Neu_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[14.03.2004 23:54:16] Duration was: 8 minutes 52 seconds
[14.03.2004 23:54:16] Speed was: 12,34 fps.
[14.03.2004 23:54:17] Compressibility percentage is: 60,48
[14.03.2004 23:54:17] Chosen resolution is: 640x272 ( AR: 2,35 )
[14.03.2004 23:54:17] Predicted comptest value is: 70,44
[14.03.2004 23:54:17] Running first pass.
[14.03.2004 23:54:17] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\Identity - Neu_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("P:\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("M:\gk_tmp\Identity - Neu.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[14.03.2004 23:54:18] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("M:\\gk_tmp\\Identity - Neu_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("M:\\Identity - Neu.avi");
===========================================================
[15.03.2004 01:27:47] Duration was: 1 hour, 33 minutes 29 seconds
[15.03.2004 01:27:47] Speed was: 23,42 fps.
[15.03.2004 01:27:47] Expected quality of first pass size: 82,07
[15.03.2004 01:27:47] Running second pass.
[15.03.2004 01:27:47] Writing the following script to M:\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("M:\\gk_tmp\\Identity - Neu_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("M:\\gk_tmp\\IDENTITY - NEU AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("M:\\Identity - Neu.avi");
===========================================================
[15.03.2004 02:56:03] Duration was: 1 hour, 28 minutes 15 seconds
[15.03.2004 02:56:03] Speed was: 24,81 fps.
[15.03.2004 02:56:03] Job finished.


The resulting file has 334MB!

[len0x]

@SonGokuDBZ

did you do any encodings after that yet ?
If not can you open XviD codec settings (in vdubmod or GK) and see what's the desired target size there ?

[dreadycarpenter]

is there anyway to set auto gk to leave screen res. as souce, or posssibly be added to next issue ??
thanks
auto gk rules!!!!!!!

[len0x]

Originally posted by dreadycarpenter
is there anyway to set auto gk to leave screen res. as souce, or posssibly be added to next issue ??


why would one wants non-cropped, anamorphic encode in AVI container ?

[SonGokuDBZ]

@Len0x:

I didn't do any encodes after that.
The desired target size was 682414KB, as it should be.

[len0x]

Originally posted by SonGokuDBZ

I didn't do any encodes after that.
The desired target size was 682414KB, as it should be.

wicked... no idea what's wrong then. Any zones apart from default one set by any chance there ?

[SonGokuDBZ]

@ Len0x:

Sorry, it was my fault. I didn't remove the old XviD version properly. After uninstalling everything and install the new one everything went fine.

Sorry for wasting your time!

[dreadycarpenter]

why is it when i set maximum width to source, the height is changed??
is it possible to keep source aspect ratio in the next build (height&width)??
AutoGK RULES!!!!!!!
dreadycarpenter

[dreadycarpenter]

the reason i ask is, i rip a 640x480(non anamorphic), set it to max width to 640 and i get a different height from the source but not 4:3 aspect?? i get a height like 388 or 502 or somewhere near that.
i rip at 100% quality, so i can re-encoded at a later date without resizing next time..

[len0x]

Originally posted by dreadycarpenter
why is it when i set maximum width to source, the height is changed??
is it possible to keep source aspect ratio in the next build (height&width)??


in the next, not. But you have to provide the reason for that for me to consider this option...

[len0x]

Originally posted by dreadycarpenter
the reason i ask is, i rip a 640x480(non anamorphic), set it to max width to 640 and i get a different height from the source but not 4:3 aspect?? i get a height like 388 or 502 or somewhere near that.
i rip at 100% quality, so i can re-encoded at a later date without resizing next time..

Re-encoding is a bad idea, so I won't be talking about that. But the reason you getting not perfect 4:3 ratio is because of cropping (rare source is really 4:3 pixel to pixel...)

[gatormac]

Originally posted by len0x
why would one wants non-cropped, anamorphic encode in AVI container ?

With the exception of the non-cropping, would that be a bad thing? I just encoded LOTR:FOTR using gknot/vdub manual method, used gknot to crop the image and start a avisynth file, omitted the resize in the avs and encoded it in VDubMod with 1 pass at a Q of 2.5 utilizing XVID 1.0 RC3's option PAR of 16:9 NTSC. Used original AC3 and saved it to avi.

Plays perfect in MPC and WMP9.

But I'm a newbie at this...is there any reason not to do this? Will it not play right in a standalone? Is this only an avi issue?

I want my backups to have the same resolution as the original, and encoding it to playback with the correct DAR by adjusting the pixel aspect ratio allows for the saving of bits that would be needed in resizing to the correct DAR pre-encoding. It allows for my horizontal resolution to be greater than 720 (usually in the mid 800's) while staying within the AS@L5 guidelines. Even if somebody doesn't mind shrinking the image down, using the pixel aspect ratio could still be used to save bits for those people trying to achieve 700MB encodes.

Or am I seeing it completely wrong? (probably)

[silver_cpu]

I don't usually post, but I feel similarly on this point. I've always wanted a simple way to encode DVD-resolution MPEG2 video to DVD-resolution Xvid/Divx. I want to preserve the original resolution, so that playback on any device looks as good as the original (within reason), and has the exact same aspect ratio and stretch. However, this is not possible (to my best knowledge) from strictly within GK, and I know it isn't within AutoGK. Is unaltered video input a possible feature for autogk?

[r6d2]

Originally posted by silver_cpu
However, this is not possible (to my best knowledge) from strictly within GKAFAIK you can manage do this with GK. len0x is reluctant to implement this in AutoGK since it would lead to great confusion and would not be very useful for the average user.

You can have the player correct the AR ar run time with a good container, but AVIs are a lot simpler than this, and that's len0x goal at the time I think.

[gatormac]

Gknot creates an avisynth script that resizes the video whether you want it to or not. If you want to encode XVID at the original resolution with the correct AR you can do this:

1)Open the .d2v in Gknot
2)select 1:1 Input Pixel Aspect Ratio
3)move the slider so that W-zoom and H-zoom are at 100% (not necessary, but helps me when trying to get 0% on ar error%)
4)crop the image
5)save the avs
6)open the avs in a text editor and put a # in front of the resize statement. Save the avs.
7)open the avs in VDub/VDubMod, select fast recompress, make your XVID settings and make sure that you set your pixel aspect ratio to match the source, i.e., 16:9 NTSC, 4:3 PAL, etc.
8)save your avi file

Not completely within GK, but simple enough I think.

[rantingotaku]

did a few encodes with latest realease... SWEET! just one question.. how does it detect "Cartoon Mode" (mainly because I encode alot of anime)

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
just one question.. how does it detect "Cartoon Mode" (mainly because I encode alot of anime)

answer is simple - it doesn't :)

[CeeJay.dk]

Feature request :

Make it possible to use Cartoon Mode.
I dont see any easy way to detect if the source is a cartoon so i think the only way would be a checkbox in advanced settings.

Fortunatly even newbies know what a cartoon is so it shouldn't confuse anyone.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CeeJay.dk

Fortunatly even newbies know what a cartoon is so it shouldn't confuse anyone.

hm... do you? Afaik not everyone knows the difference between cartoon and anime (which should not be encoded in cartoon mode).

[jeremymacmull]

Why when encoding in Divx5.1.1 does AUTOGK only utilise 2 passes instead of what most people think is the minimum 3??

for the same size and the same movie with autogk having a fixed width of 640XXX and mp3 at 128 would XIVD 1.0 rc3 produce better quality than divx 5.1.1 (with whatever settings AUTOGK uses)

i know this is a "is A better than B" but we dont have control over the settings so i was wondering if autogk with its defaults or whatever would make a better rip with the new XVID rather than use divx 5.1.1

JEREMY

[Sharktooth]

Testing testing testing... with xvid 1.0RC3-Koepi.

[Xanatos]

Hello,

I've tested AGK 1.05 beta und it says
16.03.2004 14:25:53] Indexing subtitles.
[16.03.2004 14:28:31] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.

I've installed WinRAR?
And why AGK needs WinRAR?

greetings
Xanatos

[Sharktooth]

do a little search and you'll find that winrar is needed for subtitles and how to fix the problem editing the registry.

[CeeJay.dk]

I thought of ways to make Step 1 even simpler and faster to use.

Since DVDdecrypter is used for the decrypting, the files will be placed in a directory called VIDEO_TS under a directory with the movies name.

I just encoded Chicago for example and it was placed in
E:\DVD\CHICAGO\VIDEO_TS\

My suggestion is this :
If the Input directory is VIDEO_TS then automaticly set the name of the output file (user can change this if he doesn't like the Automatic name) to the name of the folder above VIDEO_TS (and correct the CAPITOL letters so that only the first letter is a capitol letter)

If the Input directory is not a VIDEO_TS folder then set the automatic name to the name of the Input directory

As for the path to create the output files in I prefer the folder above to the VIDEO_TS folder so the DVD source files and the Xvid output files are kept seperate.

Also the starting folder for browsing (for both input and output) could be set to the path of either:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter\GENERAL_DefaultDestinationFolder

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter\MRUDestinationFolder

or

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter\MRUDestinationFileFolder

This way the browsing will start either directly in the folder of the last ripped DVD or very close to it.

[CeeJay.dk]

Originally posted by len0x
hm... do you? Afaik not everyone knows the difference between cartoon and anime (which should not be encoded in cartoon mode).

AFAIK Cartoon mode is for content with smooth areas and sharply defined egdes .. Ie cartoons .. and some anime's.

It's a matter of drawing style and while some anime are too complex to benifit from cartoon mode , there are still some that will benifit.
It all depends on the content.

BTW .. IF Cartoon mode is implemented , then the noise filtering for that content should probably be more aggressive.

[Xanatos]

@Sharktooth:

The subtitles aren't hardcoded, too.
And I can't find in forum, how I can correct the problem.

greetings
Xanatos

[QNX]

1Q for len0x :)

whem i'm encoding video on my PC with AutoGK, all other processes are hangs... looks like as AutoGK it has very high priority :(

but in the task manager all fine...

with gordian knot i have no such problems :)

what can it be?

my PC is P4(Prescot)/1GbRAM

:)

privet russkim ;)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hiho, i'be tested 3 rips up to now with XviD 1.0 RC3, you wanna say: everything fine.

[rantingotaku]

did a dozen rips while I was away today (I love the queue feature :D ), looks great, no issues yet.

one question.. it says 2nd audio can be set to a diferent format if not on Auto mode... I selected 2 audio streams (ctrl+F10), seems to both be set as AC3 (which I want to keep), yet when I ran the job, 2nd stream was converted as VBR-MP3... did I miss something?

[vanart3030]

Hey LENOX, first let me use this opportunity to thank you for the great software- because of people like you world is a better place!
You probably have too many suggestions to consider but listen to this: today DVDRW drives are very cheap and DVDR media even cheaper then CDR (per MB) so needless to say it is the matter of time before everybody will switch to dvdr (most people I know already did ac it is much more efficient!). So why not put in the predefined size say 1/5, ¼, 1/3, ½ of a typical dvdr size. I record a six non ac3 or three AC3 movies on a single DVDR and around 400 megs are not used as all the movies are around 700 megs.
Thank you, for reading!
Cheers,
Art
P.S. anyone know what happened with http://www.sharereactor.com ?????

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
one question.. it says 2nd audio can be set to a diferent format if not on Auto mode... I selected 2 audio streams (ctrl+F10), seems to both be set as AC3 (which I want to keep), yet when I ran the job, 2nd stream was converted as VBR-MP3... did I miss something?

deja vu all over again :) Is it with 1.05 ? (coz I fixed it there I thought...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by vanart3030
So why not put in the predefined size say 1/5, ¼, 1/3, ½ of a typical dvdr size. I record a six non ac3 or three AC3 movies on a single DVDR and around 400 megs are not used as all the movies are around 700 megs.


I was thinking about that since I'm using DVDRs as well...
(although there is a 2GB limit on file size on DVD, so 1/2 of DVDR is not an option)

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX
whem i'm encoding video on my PC with AutoGK, all other processes are hangs... looks like as AutoGK it has very high priority :(


Which part of encoding process are you referring to ? (demuxing,audio encoding, video encoding) Coz I know that no matter what I set in priority of demuxing/audio processing (actually I'm starting processes as IDLE ones) DVD2AVI/BeSweet ignore that. In VDubMod though you can set the default priority in settings and every time it's gonna be started with that priority.

I see no diff to normal GK though...

Originally posted by QNX

privet russkim ;)

privet im :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Xanatos

I've tested AGK 1.05 beta und it says
16.03.2004 14:25:53] Indexing subtitles.
[16.03.2004 14:28:31] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.

I've installed WinRAR?


You're saing that you have winrar installed or asking if you should install one?

[len0x]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
Why when encoding in Divx5.1.1 does AUTOGK only utilise 2 passes instead of what most people think is the minimum 3??


Well, it's a judgement call. my thoughts behind it were: if you don't really care about encoding time, then use XviD which produces better quality but slower. I do know that 3 passes can do a little bit better job, but not enough to justify the whole pass...

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
i know this is a "is A better than B" but we dont have control over the settings so i was wondering if autogk with its defaults or whatever would make a better rip with the new XVID rather than use divx 5.1.1


It definitely would. :)

[rmagere]

Originally posted by len0x
I was thinking about that since I'm using DVDRs as well...
(although there is a 2GB limit on file size on DVD, so 1/2 of DVDR is not an option)

That's actually not completely true as my rip of LotR Two Towers SSE is 3.79GB (or 4,071,655,424 bytes) and it is sitting nicely on my dvd as one file [played in its entirity on different computers and they are all happy with it].

It has to be said that when I burn my dvds I burn all of them in UDF system only (i.e. no iso or udf/iso).

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
That's actually not completely true as my rip of LotR Two Towers SSE is 3.79GB (or 4,071,655,424 bytes) and it is sitting nicely on my dvd as one file [played in its entirity on different computers and they are all happy with it].


what I actually meant is playback on standalones (where only ISO has to be used I guess), not computers.

[Carraway]

Originally posted by len0x
I found ep 3x18 and examined frame number 360 which you have screenshot of. So there is nothing that wrong with the source there, but since deinterlacer is applied then redish stuff you see is a part of the next frame. Bad deinterlacer job (first time I see that with KernelDeInt). Tried TomsMoComp and FieldDeinterlace - no problems. Then found out that reducing threshold for KernelDeInt to 5 fixes the problem, but nothing in AutoGK can be done to solve this atm.

I just wanted to add that I've run across this problem too, in about 75% of the rips I've done from television series DVD's (Will & Grace and Sports Night, specifically). The problem doesn't just manifest itself when switching from one shot to another, it also causes a kind of green/red ghosting in scenes with movement (only happens in maybe 1/5th of the frames though, it's not a constant ghosting). I realize this isn't specifically an AutoGK bug, but I just wanted to let you know that his wasn't an isolated problem, and the KernelDeInt bug has had an effect on the majority of my rips thus far.

Great, wondeful, fantastic program, btw. :)

EDIT: For kicks, I've included a snap shot since my powers of description aren't good. Needless to say, source is left, encoded is right.

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace_autogk01.jpg

[jeremymacmull]

Thanks For the reply Lenox XVID for me only now when i use AUTOGK

Thanks again for a great tool

JEREMY

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Carraway
...The problem doesn't just manifest itself when switching from one shot to another, it also causes a kind of green/red ghosting in scenes with movement (only happens in maybe 1/5th of the frames though, it's not a constant ghosting)...


@len0x:

Since my powers of description are challenged just like Carraway's, I just wanted to note that the screenshot he posted above is exactly the same as what I was experiencing with the Red Violin, that I've been discussing with you in the ivtc thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=459801

[QNX]

@len0x
Which part of encoding process are you referring to ? (demuxing,audio encoding, video encoding) Coz I know that no matter what I set in priority of demuxing/audio processing (actually I'm starting processes as IDLE ones) DVD2AVI/BeSweet ignore that. In VDubMod though you can set the default priority in settings and every time it's gonna be started with that priority. I see no diff to normal GK though...

when autoGK launching any soft: DVD2AVI/BeSweet, VDubMod - all is slowing down :)

[weiqj]

I think there should be a lot users interested in encoding DV into DivX format. So it will be great (and should be quite simple) if you can make your software shpport AVI->DivX AVI.

[gatormac]

Originally posted by len0x
what I actually meant is playback on standalones (where only ISO has to be used I guess), not computers.

Crap! Where did you get that info from? Is that with all standalones, and is that going to be the standard from now on? I have been making encodes >2GB for awhile now:angry:

[Gazza]

QNX,

Assuming you are using xvid. When encoding, select the vdubmod 'stats' window and set the encoding priority to 'idle'. This should lower the encoding priority and ease up on your other processes. You will need to repeat this for the second pass.

Not sure how you do this in divx as I don't use it.

Gazza

[QNX]

Originally posted by Gazza
[B]QNX,

Assuming you are using xvid. When encoding, select the vdubmod 'stats' window and set the encoding priority to 'idle'. This should lower the encoding priority and ease up on your other processes. You will need to repeat this for the second pass.


it doesn't help.. i've done this at the first :)

[btothec2]

len0x,

I am using the latest beta and the latest xvid. I tried to encode a trilogy that I just bought, and I happened to be watching the file right as the encode was almost done and the size was something like 861 megs. This is really weird because I set it to 1 cd 700 mb. Right after the AutoGK finished with that and started with the 2nd cd the file was resized to 477 megs, and obviously does not look very good. I will copy and paste the log file below.

Thanks

B

[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Input dir: G:\DVD\BACK_TO_THE_FUTURE\VIDEO_TS
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Output file: I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\bttf1.avi
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Audio: English
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Codec: XviD
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Target size: 700Mb
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 160Kbps
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Started encoding.
[3/17/2004 2:43:48 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/17/2004 2:47:25 PM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[3/17/2004 2:47:26 PM] Found 166983 frames
[3/17/2004 2:47:26 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/17/2004 3:11:44 PM] Audio size: 140,080,304 bytes (133.59 Mb)
[3/17/2004 3:11:45 PM] Overhead: 6,679,296 bytes (6.37 Mb)
[3/17/2004 3:11:45 PM] Video size: 587,243,600 bytes (560.04 Mb)
[3/17/2004 3:11:45 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/17/2004 3:11:45 PM] Writing the following script to I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\bttf1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\bttf1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/17/2004 3:11:47 PM] Writing the following script to I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\gk_tmp\\bttf1_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1124," AAAAAKC7DQAowAgAXHZpZGVvLnN0YXRzAAAAAHN0YXRzMgAAXHZpZGVvZ2suc3RhdHMAAFNvZnR3YXJlXEdOVVxYdm
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VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\gk_tmp\\bttf1_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[3/17/2004 3:17:27 PM] Duration was: 5 minutes 40 seconds
[3/17/2004 3:17:27 PM] Speed was: 24.55 fps.
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 23.64
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Using softer resizer.
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Chosen resolution is: 384x208 ( AR: 1.85 )
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 63.64
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Running first pass.
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Writing the following script to I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\bttf1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\bttf1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 384
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[3/17/2004 3:17:28 PM] Writing the following script to I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\gk_tmp\\bttf1_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1124," AQAAAKC7DQAowAgAXHZpZGVvLnN0YXRzAAAAAHN0YXRzMgAAXHZpZGVvZ2suc3RhdHMAAFNvZnR3YXJlXEdOVVxYdm
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VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\bttf1.avi");
===========================================================
[3/17/2004 4:11:05 PM] Duration was: 53 minutes 36 seconds
[3/17/2004 4:11:05 PM] Speed was: 51.92 fps.
[3/17/2004 4:11:05 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 66.90
[3/17/2004 4:11:05 PM] Running second pass.
[3/17/2004 4:11:06 PM] Writing the following script to I:\dvdtemp\BTTF\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\gk_tmp\\bttf1_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1124," AgAAAKC7DQAowAgAXHZpZGVvLnN0YXRzAAAAAHN0YXRzMgAAXHZpZGVvZ2suc3RhdHMAAFNvZnR3YXJlXEdOVVxYdm
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VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\gk_tmp\\BTTF1 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("I:\\dvdtemp\\BTTF\\bttf1.avi");
===========================================================
[3/17/2004 5:28:43 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 17 minutes 36 seconds
[3/17/2004 5:28:43 PM] Speed was: 35.86 fps.
[3/17/2004 5:28:43 PM] Job finished.

[Gazza]

Originally posted by QNX
it doesn't help.. i've done this at the first :)

Hi QNX,

OK. DVD2avi and besweet, etc tend to be quite cpu intensive. I have a 1Ghz P3 and always get a hit on pc performance when these are running. So, what you describe is normal for me. I would have thought, though, that your p4 would be able to handle these OK? Not sure what advice I could offer for you.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by Gazza
Not sure what advice I could offer for you. I suggest you to try checking if your IDE channels are in DMA or PIO mode. PIO is much slower and sometimes it sets itself without notice.

Also, try checking if your drive is reasonable defragged.

And last, check for priorities in task manager. If not in lowest priority, set them to see if the system becomes more responsive.

[Taurus]

@ QNX

On my machine all programs used by AutoGK are running at 100% CPU,
and NO significant slowdowns in normal use of the PC are noticed.
Sure, if trying to do some weird stuff like Image Rendering at the same time will give some hickups.
But Internetbrowsing or a little Worddocument are going on at reasonable speed.
Like a former writer suggested: Look if DMA Modus is enabled on all of your drives. And look twice!
Because on some machines even when DMA Modus is checked, the drives are still working in PIO Mode. That's because some BIOS don't recognize the mode.
Had problems on other machines (not my own).
How many CPU cycles do you get when there's nothing running at all?
Should be near zero on a properly setup XP machine.
Good Luck

Taurus

[len0x]

Originally posted by btothec2
I am using the latest beta and the latest xvid. I tried to encode a trilogy that I just bought, and I happened to be watching the file right as the encode was almost done and the size was something like 861 megs. This is really weird because I set it to 1 cd 700 mb. Right after the AutoGK finished with that and started with the 2nd cd the file was resized to 477 megs, and obviously does not look very good. I will copy and paste the log file below.


As someone already metioned on the previous page - this might happen if you didn't properly uninstall previous xvid. Try it and then reinstall new XviD and everything should be fine.

[bobsc]

Originally posted by len0x
Wait until config file will be implemented, then you will able to specify custom lame parameters
Do you still plan to implement config file?

[poochie2]

(Probably this has already been discussed, but I couldn't find it in this 80 pages post, sorry!)

AutoGK works fine with the included XviD version, but if I remove it and install the 1.0 RC 3 it cannot detect it and won't start (didn't install divx)... some hint?

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by poochie2
AutoGK works fine with the included XviD version, but if I remove it and install the 1.0 RC 3 it cannot detect it and won't start (didn't install divx)... some hint?
I did it exactly as you described and ... guess what? it works. But i also have divx installed... so, maybe, thats the problem.

[poochie2]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I did it exactly as you described and ... guess what? it works. But i also have divx installed... so, maybe, thats the problem.

I just intalled divx 5.1.1, in now runs, but in the settings it doesn't allow me to choose xvid! :mad:

[len0x]

Originally posted by bobsc
Do you still plan to implement config file?

I do. no timing yet.

[len0x]

Originally posted by poochie2
AutoGK works fine with the included XviD version, but if I remove it and install the 1.0 RC 3 it cannot detect it and won't start (didn't install divx)... some hint?

noone seems to have this problem. Do you have xvidcore.dll and xvidvfw.dll in the system directory ?

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by poochie2
I just intalled divx 5.1.1, in now runs, but in the settings it doesn't allow me to choose xvid! :mad:
Uhm.... maybe a bad install or a corrupt xvid package?
What xvid version are you using and from who?

[btothec2]

Originally posted by len0x
As someone already metioned on the previous page - this might happen if you didn't properly uninstall previous xvid. Try it and then reinstall new XviD and everything should be fine.

I will give it a try, but the uninstall is a pretty simple procedure, not sure how I could have screwed that up.

Thanks
B

[poochie2]

Originally posted by len0x
noone seems to have this problem. Do you have xvidcore.dll and xvidvfw.dll in the system directory ?

The files are both there, and I'm using Koepi's "Nao" Xvid 1.0 RC 3, the same available in the xvid forum...

Does autogk check for in the system folder or in a predetermined folder? My system32 folder is in L:\windows , not in C:\windows .

Anyway the codec works fine, I made rips using the standard gordian knot with no problem at all and virtual dub lists the xvid codec among the others...

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by len0x
deja vu all over again :) Is it with 1.05 ? (coz I fixed it there I thought...)

heh, sorry about that... yes V.1.05

[Hobojobo]

@len0x: I just tried AutoGK 1.05 on some tv episodes.
I love it. The de-interlacing is just great. I tried it by myself with GK. After hours I thought I got the right settings, yeah right, for the first episode of the season, the second turnded out to be totally different...
Now I press two or three buttons and off we go. GREAT!!!

One little request:
All my episodes have different ratios 640x496, 640x464, 640x480.
I would prefer 640x480, I could cope with losing a few pixel on the borders to avoid an aspect error.

Would that be possible, to choose a fixed ratio, for AutoGK 1.xx?

[rmagere]

Hi, I get the following error
"The function SetMode was called on a stream[?] that hasn't been previously initialized with SetSource" towards the end of some AutoGK encodes. The end result is a ripped movie not muxed and with a wrong size (but not wrong in an understandable way).

I seem to get this error when I encode a movie with 2 soundtracks and 1 subtitle stream, however I am not sure if the problem is related only to the mismatch of soundtracks to subtitles or to having two soundtracks [as I have only ripped so far 2 soundtracks 1 subtitle stream or 1 soundtrack 1 subtitle stream].

If you want the log [although I doubt it is of particular use] here it is:

[rmagere]

[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Input dir: D:\DVD\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Output file: D:\DVD\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA.avi
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Audio: English
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Audio2: English - Director's Comments
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Subtitles: English Normal Closed Captions : Wi
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Codec: XviD
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Target size: 1401Mb
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Started encoding.
[19/03/2004 01:51:04] Demuxing and indexing.
[19/03/2004 01:56:18] Analyzing source.
[19/03/2004 01:56:18] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 02:01:53] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.01
[19/03/2004 02:01:53] Source is considered to be progressive.
[19/03/2004 02:01:54] Found 155262 frames
[19/03/2004 02:01:54] Indexing subtitles.
[19/03/2004 02:01:54] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\DVD\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA\VTS_01_PGC_04_0.ifo
D:\DVD\gk_tmp\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA
4
0
0 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 02:06:37] Compressing subtitles.
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Audio size: 347,785,984 bytes (331.67 Mb)
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Audio 2 size: 173,892,992 bytes (165.84 Mb)
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Overhead: 3,687,424 bytes (3.52 Mb)
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Subtitles size: 869,748 bytes (0.83 Mb)
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Video size: 942,818,828 bytes (899.14 Mb)
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Running compressibility test.
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\DVD\gk_tmp\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 02:06:43] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData

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VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Duration was: 7 minutes 53 seconds
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Speed was: 16.40 fps.
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Compressibility percentage is: 59.11
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Chosen resolution is: 640x336 ( AR: 1.90 )
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Predicted comptest value is: 71.21
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Running first pass.
[19/03/2004 02:14:36] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\DVD\gk_tmp\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 02:14:37] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData

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VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\DVD\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA.avi");
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 03:30:44] Duration was: 1 hour, 16 minutes 7 seconds
[19/03/2004 03:30:44] Speed was: 34.00 fps.
[19/03/2004 03:30:44] Expected quality of first pass size: 68.87
[19/03/2004 03:30:44] Running second pass.
[19/03/2004 03:30:44] Writing the following script to D:\DVD\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(3012,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetSource("D:\\DVD\\gk_tmp\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA AC3 T03 2_0ch 224Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\DVD\\A_FISH_CALLED_WANDA.avi");
===========================================================
[19/03/2004 09:36:35] Duration was: 6 hours 5 minutes 50 seconds
[19/03/2004 09:36:35] Speed was: 7.07 fps.
[19/03/2004 09:36:35] Job finished.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
Hi, I get the following error
"The function SetMode was called on a stream[?] that hasn't been previously initialized with SetSource" towards the end of some AutoGK encodes. The end result is a ripped movie not muxed and with a wrong size (but not wrong in an understandable way).


Well, from what I see you selected Auto mode for audio, right?
It suppose to have mp3 soundtrack for second audio. And SetSource set it right - 202 type, but actualy file is AC3 - that's why it cannot be muxed in properly... weird, I'll have a look.

[rmagere]

Originally posted by len0x
Well, from what I see you selected Auto mode for audio, right?
It suppose to have mp3 soundtrack for second audio. And SetSource set it right - 202 type, but actualy file is AC3 - that's why it cannot be muxed in properly... weird, I'll have a look.

Yeah I set it to auto, and you are right the ac3 was never converted to mp3 (in my audio setting the bitrate is set on 160).

Also
Originally posted by QNX
whem i'm encoding video on my PC with AutoGK, all other processes are hangs... looks like as AutoGK it has very high priority

Do you happen to have a computer with two processors running winxp?
As if that is the case you will see that VirtualDub when launched by AGK sets its affinity to only one of your processors [usually cpu 0] and not to both [while VirtualDub launched by GK is nice and sets itself to use both].
By doing so, not only it encodes at a slower speed [about half], but at times [often] it also make the computer hang. The solution is to set VirtualDub affinity to either both processor or processor 1 as it seems that WinXP loads cpu 0 with the gui software and it is not able to shift the workload to cpu 1 nor to reduce the amount of cpu 0 used by virtualdub.
That's why I asked [well mainly for the performance improvement] if there is a why to get AGK to act like GK with respect to VirtualDub affinity but I never got any feedback on it.

[starwave]

Please include AVI input in addition to VOB's input on Auto GK. I have tried to convert a list of QPel DivX files into 2-passes XviD for better quality and compatibility for my Kiss DP-450 DivX Player. Dr. DivX can do it but it works only with DivX codec (I prefer XviD) and quality is lower than Auto GK.

People says len0x don't want to implement AVI input (I don't know why, because implementation is very easy and very useful too).

If len0x don't want to implement it perhaps can offer Delphi sources to other programmers to implement it.

[QNX]

Originally posted by rmagere
Do you happen to have a computer with two processors running winxp?
As if that is the case you will see that VirtualDub when launched by AGK sets its affinity to only one of your processors [usually cpu 0] and not to both [while VirtualDub launched by GK is nice and sets itself to use both].
By doing so, not only it encodes at a slower speed [about half], but at times [often] it also make the computer hang. The solution is to set VirtualDub affinity to either both processor or processor 1 as it seems that WinXP loads cpu 0 with the gui software and it is not able to shift the workload to cpu 1 nor to reduce the amount of cpu 0 used by virtualdub.
That's why I asked [well mainly for the performance improvement] if there is a why to get AGK to act like GK with respect to VirtualDub affinity but I never got any feedback on it.

thank :) at least somebody know what the problem is :D

len0x

do something pogaluysta ;)

also i don't understand why AutoGK don't like HT? :(

[jeremymacmull]

@rmagere

AUTOGK 1.05 beta here sets vdub to use both processors 3.2C HT enabled

it all depends whether u followed the guide and made the autogk.exe and/or the virtualdub.exe in win98 compatibility mode

I did not make any changes ie they are running in XP mode

and occassionally autogk does not start up and i get an error message but most of the time it works well (starts up correctly) and this way vdub and all apps are set to affinity cpu 0 and 1. and vdub with xvid uses 80-94% processor on my machine

so i think the solution is NOT do the ht fix(or suggestion as mentioned in the guide)

@lenox

Ive just done my first XVID 1.0 RC3 encode and i notice after AUTOGK starts encoding i checked the settings and AUTOGK does not use Turbo mode

not meaning to be offensive but why is this? would not enabling turbo mode in the codec in autogk as its default speed things up considerably at least in the second pass??

if there is a good reason for turbo mode to not be enabled then fair dos i would just like to know what it is as im new to xvid 1.0 and dont understand all the options yet.

JEREMY

PS also besweet only ever uses 50% processor on my ht 3.2 even if it is set to affinity cpu 0 and 1 and high priority. everything else ie vdub and dvd2avi seem to take advantage of HT but besweet does not is there an updated version that does this or is there a fix to let it use the rest of the processor for the audio mp3 encoding bit.

[Vrokolos]

I'd really like a command line interface to set up all the settings for a single job and start it using a batch file.
That way we can do a single DVD -> DIVX shortcut that includes ripping and encoding the DVD or schedule batch convertions of directories with ripped DVDs every night and automatically burn them.

Would love to see these params:
/if<inputdir> /of<outputfile> /audio<audiosubstr> /subs<subtitlesubstr> /size<size in MB or quality in percentage>

all of them are self-explained except
audiosubstr: Let's say it equals "Greek".. I'd like autogk to select the first item on the subtitle list that has "Greek" in it..

subtitlesubstr: Same as above but for audio channels for example "6ch"

Thanks for this great utility by the way

[jeremymacmull]

dont think command line utility for it will ever happen as its meant for newbies and it has a pretty damn good built in queue funtion that takes very few clicks at all

JEREMY

[rmagere]

originally posted by jeremymacmull
AUTOGK 1.05 beta here sets vdub to use both processors 3.2C HT enabled it all depends whether u followed the guide and made the autogk.exe and/or the virtualdub.exe in win98 compatibility mode
I did not make any changes ie they are running in XP mode

I have not done any changes also I am not talking hyperthread enabled as if I did that I would have 4 processors and not 2 as I have 2 physically different intel cpu both capable of hyperthreading.
Here everything works fine (but for that audio problem) and I have never had any crashing or so on the only problem is that of vdubmod affinity. I have never had once agk starting vdubmod with affinity to both processors while gk has always loaded vdubmod with affinity to both processors that's why I think there must be something in the way that agk calls vdubmod that achieves that result.

[QNX]

lags remains... now i've installed 1.05b and tried to encode the last samurai dvd - terrible laggs, hangs :(

system is tweaked, so don't tell me about PIO modes :)

rippring from the DVD image on hdd, not from dvd-rom

[Vrokolos]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
dont think command line utility for it will ever happen as its meant for newbies and it has a pretty damn good built in queue funtion that takes very few clicks at all

JEREMY

I'm a newbie.. A DIVX - XVID newbie though and not a computer one. I don't know anything about quantizers and IVTC and every other weird thing you're talking about in here. That doesn't mean that I don't know how to use the command line. The queue isn't that good. It doesn't have a queue file and I can't change the queue later.

[len0x]

Those ones may not be solved until I get hold of those myself (meaning amount of donations reaches the point when I can afford to buy intel-based PC, I won't be spending my own money on that) since I have to debug the program under that configuration. I'm pretty sure that it's not my faulty code since I do the same things in normal GK(and noone had any issues with that one), but rather one of the libraries I'm using gives me the trouble. But as I said there is no easy way to find that out.

P.S. I just removed some asm code from one of the libraries. Lets see if it solves HT crash issues (although I doubt). But regarding affinity problem - I have no clue since GK and AutoGK launch vdubmod identically.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Vrokolos
The queue isn't that good. It doesn't have a queue file and I can't change the queue later.

You just have to live with it. CLI will never gonna happen. (but queue enhancements might)

[len0x]

ppl with HT cpus please report back if it still crashes

[QNX]

Originally posted by len0x
ppl with HT cpus please report back if it still crashes

doesn't work without compatibility mode yet :)

movie is still encoding, but still with abnormal priority :D

just finished encoding of DVD - 2 hours i wasn't able to do something on my PC...

and also tried 1.07 - situation is the same :(

as i remember - old version before 0.9x worked fine :)

i can attach the log, but i don't think that there are something useful in it

i've used AutoGK 1.07
AviSynth 2.55 (latest)

tried with different XviD builds...

something wrong :)

[mcmanuf]

Originally posted by len0x
"ppl with HT cpus please report back if it still crashes"

It does crash on my 3,06 ghz prescott :-(

But the program runs fine if I turn the compatibility thing on :-)

[len0x]

I guess HT issues are not gonna be solved in the near future then...

[starwave]

Please len0x. I have posted at least 3 or 4 messages about AVI input on Auto GK, but I have no response from you. What is the reason ?. It seems you are only interested on Hyper Threading.
I'm planning to do myself a similar program to Auto GK that includes AVI input files recognition because I think you don't want (or you don't know how) to implement it.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by starwave
I think you don't want (or you don't know how) to implement it. Wow... Beware, dangerous poster here.

What you are trying to do is not really difficult, but probably makes much less sense than other priorities. I don't think reencoding will improve quality, no matter your settings.

[len0x]

Originally posted by starwave
Please len0x. I have posted at least 3 or 4 messages about AVI input on Auto GK, but I have no response from you. What is the reason ?. It seems you are only interested on Hyper Threading.


you should learn how to take a hint. i simply have nothing to say about avi support atm...

Originally posted by starwave

I'm planning to do myself a similar program to Auto GK that includes AVI input files recognition because I think you don't want (or you don't know how) to implement it.

please be my guest...
The only reason I would be adding avi input support is for DV ppl, but that will come with generic DirectShow input support which takes considerable effort to implement and therefore won't be happening any time soon.

[starwave]

To len0x
Sorry for my offensive words but I think AVI input is very important because there are a lot of DivX files actually incompatible with standalone players as for example "Kiss DP-450", because of QPel and another things like high bitrates on DivX 3.11 that freezes playing.

To r6d2
I don't want to improve quality of original AVI files, I simply want to convert files to obtain another that plays on standalones.Of course I can do it using virtualdub but I'm interested on job list and undot & auto resizing by quality Auto GK does because I want to put seven 700MB movies into one single DVD and of course movies have to be resized down and recompressed to 640MB to fit. Actually I only know "Dr. DivX" that do it automatically, but it only works with DivX and not with XviD (wich I prefer)and output quality has a big blocking effect.
Sorry another time for my offensive words but I believed len0x ignored my previous suggestions.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by starwave
To r6d2
I don't want to improve quality of original AVI files [...]Originally posted by starwave
I have tried to convert a list of QPel DivX files into 2-passes XviD for better quality [...]Anyway, I suppose you've found that quality does no degrade significantly on your tests so far...

[Vrokolos]

Originally posted by len0x
You just have to live with it. CLI will never gonna happen. (but queue enhancements might)

I don't know how many people requested this yet.. But i'd like to add myself too to "The 'make AutoGK open-source' list"

Also.. you might want to thank Jedi in the Third-Party tools TURLRichEdit in the TJvPageControl of the TformAbout

I'm just a nut who was trying to PostMessage's to the app so I can get CLI :>

[poochie2]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by starwave
[B]To len0x
Sorry for my offensive words but I think AVI input is very important because there are a lot of DivX files actually incompatible with standalone players as for example "Kiss DP-450", because of QPel and another things like high bitrates on DivX 3.11 that freezes playing.

If your real need is re-encoding avis, you just need virtuadub, copy the audio stream and save in the job list the two passes for your new avi and you're done, autogk is supposed to make it easy dealing with vobs and ac3, not plain and easy avi...

[Angelus]

You can even use GK if you want to re-encode avi's. I know I've done that with all my captures and it's worked fine with a simple Avisynth Script.

[Milamber]

Hi len0x

First off I would like to say thank you for such a great program. I would however like to run a few suggestions by you:

1. I think it would be a great feature if you could preview/play the audio tracks in AutoGK instead of having to use another program to see which track is the correct audio track that you wish to encode (and also not have to wait for VirtualDubMod to preview the whole movie).

2. Also, maybe a preview of the subtitles (though this might be hard), or maybe just the languages/description of the subtitles. Sometimes the forced English subs gets stored as another subtitle with only forced subs instead of having everything in the same sub file and just ticking "forced subs". It would thus be great if you could do something about this so that we don't have to use an external program to check that.

Thanks
Milamber

[manono]

Milamber-Hello and welcome to the forum.

About the subs-if you set it up for subs, and then run the Preview, you'll get the subs you selected. If they are the wrong subs, then go back and try again with a different set of subs. The Preview is slow in setting up only the first time. After that it's real fast. That doesn't seem to be exactly what you asked for, but it should help to solve your problem. Since you know already that sometimes the forced subs aren't part of the main subtitle stream, then you also know already that sometimes you have to look for forced subs with the forced subs option turned off.

[starwave]

To r6d2
Originally posted by starwave :
To r6d2
I don't want to improve quality of original AVI files [...]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by starwave
I have tried to convert a list of QPel DivX files into 2-passes XviD for better quality [...]
> better quality compared with Dr. DivX results

To Pochie2
Originally posted by Pochie2:
If your real need is re-encoding avis, you just need virtuadub, copy the audio stream and save in the job list the two passes for your new avi and you're done, autogk is supposed to make it easy dealing with vobs and ac3, not plain and easy avi...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Original posted by starwave:
>Of course I can do it using virtualdub but I'm interested on job list and undot & AUTO RESIZING BY QUALITY Auto GK does because I want to put seven 700MB movies into one single DVD and of course movies have to be resized down and recompressed to 640MB to fit. Actually I only know "Dr. DivX" that do it automatically, but it only works with DivX and not with XviD (wich I prefer)and output quality has a big blocking effect.

To len0x:

NEWLY EXCUSE ME FOR MY PREVIOUS EXCEDED & OFFENSIVE WORDS.I think your program is very useful (better than Dr. DivX), but I think VOB's input is very limited option. There are a lot of people that haves non MPEG-4 AVI's like M-JPEG AVI's from DV camcorders,MPG and another filetypes Dr. DivX recognizes but Auto GK doesn't and actually there are no programs that automatically resizes movie preserving quality like Auto GK does using XviD.Of course people can directly use VirtualDub but is very tedious work if you have a list of movies to be encoded and to be resized down at unknown factor (that Auto GK obtains) to preserve quality.

[manono]

To all you guys asking to be able to input avi for reencoding because the existing avi won't play on your standalone because of Q-Pel, GMC, different Matrices, Packed Bitstream, external subs, or whatever reason:

len0x appreciates requests and suggestions. Many good suggestions by users have been implemented in the last few months. The main, but not only, purpose of AutoGK is to allow new users to make good quality backups of their own DVDs for playback on a computer or standalone simply and easily. If you have been following this thread, then you know that already. Now, maybe you have avis that you made in the past that you encoded with Q-Pel or GMC, or whatever, that you now wish to have play on your standalone. Fine, the suggestions have been heard by len0x and rejected. That's the end of it. It's not open for further discussion. You'll only get yourself into trouble by pursuing it.

But if, as I suspect, you've downloaded many, if not all, of these funky avis from the net, then you should also know by now that this forum does not support such things in any way, shape, or form, and pursuing the matter could conceivably get you into even more trouble here. And if you haven't read of our stand on this issue, then I point you to Rule 6 of the Forum Rules (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm). And to make it even more clear, please read this Announcement (http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?s=&forumid=6). You've all been real careful so far in how you've worded the requests, which is good.

And as you all know, you can reencode an .avi through GKnot, or directly in VDubMod. Or you can convert them to SVCD with DVD2SVCD (the AVI portion of it). I can't speak for len0x, but I've been getting a bit irritated myself with these repeated requests. Problems and bugs have been and are being addressed, and many new features have been added. Maybe many of the AutoGK features will find their way into GKnot in the future. But you simply have to respect the developer's goals as far as what AutoGK is intended to do, and what he's willing to add to it.

[starwave]

To manono
Previously posted by manono:
maybe you have avis that you made in the past that you encoded with Q-Pel or GMC, or whatever, that you now wish to have play on your standalone. Fine, the suggestions have been heard by len0x and rejected. That's the end of it. It's not open for further discussion. You'll only get yourself into trouble by pursuing it.
But if, as I suspect, you've downloaded many, if not all, of these funky avis from the net, then you should also know by now that this forum does not support such things in any way, shape, or form, and pursuing the matter could conceivably get you into even more trouble here. And if you haven't read of our stand on this issue, then I point you to Rule 6 of the Forum Rules. And to make it even more clear, please read this Announcement. You've all been real careful so far in how you've worded the requests, which is good.
I can't speak for len0x, but I've been getting a bit irritated myself with these repeated requests.
>I have offered my excuses previously but I'm not agree this offensive words from you.
1 - I don't want to convert avi's from the net. I have a lot of old DivX 3.11 movies splitted on 2 CD's previously converted by me using FlaskMPEG that I want to recompress to XviD. I have too M-JPEG files from DV camcorder of my voyages obviously not downloaded from the net.
2 - If len0x really heard and rejected the suggestion then I will write and post (on another site, because I'm feel rejected on this) my own program because there are more programmers on the world (like me) capable to do it.
3 - If you are irritated for my requests...I think my requests are equally respectable to another requests.
I know one of my previous post sounded dangerous and I have said I'm sorry many times but... I get offensive words from you. I think this isn't the way.

[manono]

Hi starwave-

OK, I hear you. I forgot about DivX 3.11. I have quite a few of those from the old days myself that won't play on my standalone. But I wouldn't reencode them, because of the lower quality that would result. And if I did want to, it's easily enough done through GKnot or in VDubMod. While not everyone has this option, I can send them from a computer close to the TV by using the video out on the graphics card.

I think len0x mentioned, though, that he has plans eventually to include digital video in the supported inputs to AutoGK.

If you want to pursue your own project, then I believe the GKnot code is available as a starting point. But if you're a skilled programmer, I don't believe that you'll find a more willing and experienced group of beta testers (and suggestion givers :)) than you have on this site. So I would encourage you to stick around.

[Jorgen]

Hi,

@len0x: I was thinking about buying a standalone Kiss Divx player which AFAIK supports external subtitles, but not subtitles compressed with WinRAR. Would it be possible to have an option for not compressing the external subtitles?

Another small request: 1/4 DVD and 1/3 DVD as options in the output size combobox.

Keep up the good work - AutoGK is a really excellent program :D

[RathO]

After a couple of years manually encoding my DVD, i'm finally getting tired of it, and now going with automated tools. First try with AutoGK this morning, took 3h45 to do a 2 hours movie. And i must admit i'm quite impressed with the result, and for sure, im not going back to the "old way" :p except maybe for anime.

I've read the FAQ first and scroll through a couple of pages of this looooong thread without answer to my question:

I'm just wondering why the audio is now 32kHz? Is it a standalone divx player issue? Should there be an option to let us select desired kHz?

Regards

[poochie2]

I wanted to report that the issue I had with beta 1.05 that couldn't detect my installation of koepi's xvid 1.0 rc3 is solved in 1.07. Don't know if you changed anything for it... anyway it looks like it's working!

[starwave]

To manono:
Thank you, now I'm feel better and newly I'm sorry for my previous comments. You said Gordian Knot code is available as starting point.Please tell me where can I find it, perhaps I can apport something or perhaps I'll write a new program to post here.Is Auto GK source code available ?. In affirmative case, Where ?.

To len0x:
Auto GK is a very good program.I hope you are not angry for my previous words(sometimes I'm a bit impulsive when I'm feel ignored).You have a friend on me and you have all my support on Auto GK effort.

[KYUSS]

Originally posted by manono




I think len0x mentioned, though, that he has plans eventually to include digital video in the supported inputs to AutoGK.



what exactly is meant by this please?

will i be able to import my 'captured' files for converting to Xvid/divX?

[Angelus]

@KYUSS

I think what is meant is that DV input from a camcorder may be supported in the future.

[Carraway]

This post is perfectly igornable if you're tired of hearing about my red/green IVTC problems. :)

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I encountered the odd red/green ghosting in an AVS script that didn't use kerneldeint at all.

AVS:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Rips\HELEN_OF_TROY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\test.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Telecide(order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

Screenshot:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/helenoftroy01.jpg

So, ok. But I did some more playing around by doing this:

I switched both instances of...

cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)

...to this...

cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=8,hmultof=8,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=8,hmultof=8,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)

And that fixed it:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/helenoftroy02.jpg

Help?

EDIT: Turns out I only needed to change the second instance of autocrop (the 23rd line in the AVS) to a multiple of 8, the first instance ("cropclip") could stay a multiple of 4. This however doesn't change the fact that I have basically no idea what I'm doing.

[RathO]

Is there any plan on including into AutoGK a "set credits start" to have the credits encoded with less bitrate?

Regards

[Wolfman]

excellent!
This however doesn't change the fact that I have basically no idea what I'm doing :D

[manono]

starwave-

My information about the source code for GKnot being available is based on TheWEF's comments in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50070&highlight=source+code). And later on I saw it available for download. So I went to the link provided (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot/), and I think it's that CVS stuff at the bottom. But you'd know more about that than I.

I don't think the AutoGK source code is or will be available, but you'd have to speak to len0x about that.

[poochie2]

A very good implementation would be the option to set, like in GK, the default codec options to use for every encode, so I'll just have to modify them once...

One question: what kind of normalization options does AUTOGK use when calling besweet?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Jorgen

@len0x: I was thinking about buying a standalone Kiss Divx player which AFAIK supports external subtitles, but not subtitles compressed with WinRAR. Would it be possible to have an option for not compressing the external subtitles?


standalones don't support vobsub subs, compressed or non-compressed. They only support ORC-ed text subs which are impossible to get automatically without user input.

[len0x]

Originally posted by poochie2
A very good implementation would be the option to set, like in GK, the default codec options to use for every encode, so I'll just have to modify them once...


That what GK is for...

Originally posted by poochie2

One question: what kind of normalization options does AUTOGK use when calling besweet?

If you know BeSweet, then why don't you look into BeSweet logs to see the full command line ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
EDIT: Turns out I only needed to change the second instance of autocrop (the 23rd line in the AVS) to a multiple of 8, the first instance ("cropclip") could stay a multiple of 4. This however doesn't change the fact that I have basically no idea what I'm doing.

Well the first autocrop doesn't do anything to the video, so that's understandable. Muliplier of 8 helped you're saying? Hm... Can you try adding Limiter(0,255,0,255) after second autocrop to see if that fixes anything ?

P.S. or you can make a sample available for us so that we can test it ourselves.

[len0x]

Originally posted by RathO
Is there any plan on including into AutoGK a "set credits start" to have the credits encoded with less bitrate?


maximum of what I can do for non-auto mode at some point is make ".credits" file containing frame number, which you have to put in input dir.

[len0x]

Originally posted by starwave
To len0x:
Auto GK is a very good program.I hope you are not angry for my previous words(sometimes I'm a bit impulsive when I'm feel ignored).You have a friend on me and you have all my support on Auto GK effort.

No hard feelings from me.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Vrokolos
I don't know how many people requested this yet.. But i'd like to add myself too to "The 'make AutoGK open-source' list"


I don't believe anyone did here (well, to be honest I got a couple of emails). But mostly because I said from the beginning - there will be no sources released while I'm actively working on it.

Originally posted by Vrokolos

Also.. you might want to thank Jedi in the Third-Party tools TURLRichEdit in the TJvPageControl of the TformAbout


If it was like this I had to thank Borland first :) A couple of non-important components from Jedi are not on the same level as external programs used by AutoGK...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Milamber

1. I think it would be a great feature if you could preview/play the audio tracks in AutoGK instead of having to use another program to see which track is the correct audio track that you wish to encode (and also not have to wait for VirtualDubMod to preview the whole movie).


I don't believe its possible (internal DVD player is way beyond the scope of AutoGK). I still have to use DVD2AVI do demux the sound.

[Carraway]

Originally posted by len0x
Well the first autocrop doesn't do anything to the video, so that's understandable. Muliplier of 8 helped you're saying? Hm... Can you try adding Limiter(0,255,0,255) after second autocrop to see if that fixes anything ?

P.S. or you can make a sample available for us so that we can test it ourselves.

I added the limiter value after the second autocrop, but that didn't change anything. Same red/green shadow. AVS script with Limiter included is below just to be sure I didn't screw anything up (there's precedent).

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Rips\HELEN_OF_TROY\VIDEO_TS\gk_tmp\test.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Limiter(0,255,0,255)
Telecide(order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

As for posting a sample, the webspace I use for the screenshots only allows 5mb of space, so posting a VOB file is pretty much out of the question. The Helen of Troy DVD I'm taking this off of isn't very highly compressed, and 5mb is about 3 seconds of video.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
I added the limiter value after the second autocrop, but that didn't change anything. Same red/green shadow. AVS script with Limiter included is below just to be sure I didn't screw anything up (there's precedent).


how about the same limiter line after decimate() ?

Originally posted by Carraway

As for posting a sample, the webspace I use for the screenshots only allows 5mb of space, so posting a VOB file is pretty much out of the question. The Helen of Troy DVD I'm taking this off of isn't very highly compressed, and 5mb is about 3 seconds of video.

Well, I'm able to set up upload area myself if you don't mind uploading lots of data :)

[len0x]

Hack to force normal IVTC on falsely detected hybrid sources is there.
Also I changed one component which I suspect might caused HT issues, so re-testing on HT CPUs would be appreciated.

P.S. advanced settings are stored in a different location, so you have to set them again now.

[Carraway]

Originally posted by len0x
how about the same limiter line after decimate() ?

Well, I'm able to set up upload area myself if you don't mind uploading lots of data :)

Limiter after decimate doesn't work either. Or after Undot() or LanczosResize(), and my computer beeps at me if I try and put it before the second autocrop. :)

As for uploading lots of data, I could probably do that. But it may have to wait until tonight (12 hours from now or so), once I'm back at home and on my desktop computer w/ all my data.

[Jorgen]

Originally posted by len0x
standalones don't support vobsub subs, compressed or non-compressed. They only support ORC-ed text subs which are impossible to get automatically without user input.

Well, according to http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=faqdp450&v=press#gen13 .sub subtitles are supported ;)

But rar-compressed .sub files are not supported :( which is why I requested an option to disable compression.
This option could preferably be set in a config txt file for advanced users - no need to confuse newbies with another option.

Keep up the good work - I really enjoy using you program :p

/Jorgen

[jeremymacmull]

using 1.08 beta

i still get (ive not set AUTOGK to win98 compatibility mode) autogk crashes when start up and it says error 216 at 004035D6 this happens occasionally with all versions ive tested. so i close autogk when this error comes up and restart it and most of the time it works on the third attempt or so. once AUTOGK is open it works fine ie it lauches VDUB etc and use HT properly etc etc.

but this error probably has something to do with HT.
JEREMY

[len0x]

Originally posted by Jorgen
Well, according to http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=faqdp450&v=press#gen13 .sub subtitles are supported ;)


*.sub is a text format (same as .srt and many others). These are non-vobsub format which is idx/sub binary format.

[Jorgen]

Originally posted by len0x
*.sub is a text format (same as .srt and many others). These are non-vobsub format which is idx/sub binary format.

OK, I wasn't aware of that. I will just stick to the burnt in subtitles then :p

/Jorgen

[diehardii]

Hi Len0x,

Is there any chance this could support regular MPEG files also? I use a Hauppauge PVR 250 to record television in a DVD stream (or something very similar to it). I don't have anything that is great for reencoding those files right now and I really like this for backing up my DVDs. Thanks for anything you can do.

~Steve

[len0x]

Originally posted by diehardii
Is there any chance this could support regular MPEG files also? I use a Hauppauge PVR 250 to record television in a DVD stream (or something very similar to it). I don't have anything that is great for reencoding those files right now and I really like this for backing up my DVDs. Thanks for anything you can do.


Read the FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72679) Q5.4

[zerocoolnl]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
using 1.08 beta

i still get (ive not set AUTOGK to win98 compatibility mode) autogk crashes when start up and it says error 216 at 004035D6 this happens occasionally with all versions ive tested. so i close autogk when this error comes up and restart it and most of the time it works on the third attempt or so. once AUTOGK is open it works fine ie it lauches VDUB etc and use HT properly etc etc.

but this error probably has something to do with HT.
JEREMY

Some BIOS's does have the option to disable the HT technologie. Do you get the error when you have done that? Beacuse then your for 100% shure it's HT ;)

Greetz,
Zerocoolnl

[evil ryu]

Version 1.08b

3.0 GHz - fsb 800 MHz - HT enabled

For me now it works without compatibility mode.

Good work! :thanks:

[RathO]

Originally posted by len0x
maximum of what I can do for non-auto mode at some point is make ".credits" file containing frame number, which you have to put in input dir. Sure, i was using FU for some times, and they have the option wich is really great. I dont really mind doing some manual stuff in a way to get credits at low bitrate.

Would be great! :p Thanks!

[Mtz]

Originally posted by Jorgen
OK, I wasn't aware of that. I will just stick to the burnt in subtitles then :p

/Jorgen

Convert that idx/sub (binary format) into .srt or .sub (microDVD) with VobSub or SubRip (directly from the vob). It's better to have selectable subtitles.

Edit:
@ len0x, is correct the file sizes calculated by you in the "1/3, 1/4, 1/5 and 1/6 of DVDR as predefined sizes" ?
Ex: 1/6DVDR (802MB) is 802*6=4812MB ??
I'm lost in that MB, Kb, KB, bytes stuff. :(

[QNX]

without comp. mode i'm getting

Runtime error 216 at 004035D6

:D

[evil ryu]

Originally posted by QNX
without comp. mode i'm getting

Runtime error 216 at 004035D6

:D

Trying it a bit longer I found that sometimes it works and sometimes it crashes :(

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Hack to force normal IVTC on falsely detected hybrid sources is there.


Sorry for appearing stupid, but can someone please explain what len0x means by:

'- added support for ".ivtc" control file in input dir to force normal IVTC on hybrid-detected material'

I tried creating a dummy file with the same name as the ***.ifo file but giving it a .ivtc extension instead, that didn't do anything - can anyone provide the details on how to activate this feature please?

thanks,

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by Mtz

Edit:
@ len0x, is correct the file sizes calculated by you in the "1/3, 1/4, 1/5 and 1/6 of DVDR as predefined sizes" ?
Ex: 1/6DVDR (802MB) is 802*6=4812MB ??
I'm lost in that MB, Kb, KB, bytes stuff. :(

as far as I can tell, after using both + and - DVD formats, each disc can hold up to 4483mb of data... that or there's a problem with nero detecting actual size of the dvd :confused: OR they can be doing the 1000k = 1mb / 1024k = 1mb 'trick' and advertise it as 4.7gb

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
as far as I can tell, after using both + and - DVD formats, each disc can hold up to 4483mb of data... that or there's a problem with nero detecting actual size of the dvd :confused: OR they can be doing the 1000k = 1mb / 1024k = 1mb 'trick' and advertise it as 4.7gb

That's interesting. I'll check that, but I was certain that I was able to burn real 4.7Gb...

As of now I assume DVDR size is 4812Mb. May be it is indeed less.

[jeremymacmull]

DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)

JEREMY

[rmagere]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)
JEREMY

Indeed after burning many (and I do mean many) dvds 4.36GB is the real size (occasionally you can get as far as 4.37GB but it's a bit dvd dependent).

[len0x]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
DVD+/- R as far as i know have a capacity of 4.36 Gb (4482mb)(4.7 is the bytes figure not taking into account 1024 per mb/gb etc etc)


I need to change it then...

[Gordie Howe]

Originally posted by len0x
maximum of what I can do for non-auto mode at some point is make ".credits" file containing frame number, which you have to put in input dir.

That would be excellent! :)

[Mtz]

Originally posted by len0x
I need to change it then...

Yes, and maybe 4460 MB for start the calculations, because some DVD's are crap and I think that remained 20 MB it's not a big deal for the whole quality of the novies.

1/3 = 1486 MB
1/4 = 1115 MB
1/5 = 892 MB
1/6 = 743 MB

But...
in DVD2SVCD at the Bitrate tab at CD size, when you choose DVD output they have:
4350 for DVD+R and
4480 for DVD-R
Also D2SRoba.

:rolleyes: "Lost in Translation" :D

[marteaga]

Originally posted by Mtz
Convert that idx/sub (binary format) into .srt or .sub (microDVD) with VobSub or SubRip (directly from the vob). It's better to have selectable subtitles.



Is there any chance to convert idx/sub to .srt or .sub directly, that is, without the original vobs???

[starwave]

View the thread AutoGK suggestions for DVD-R & DVD+R sizes. I have a Plextor PX-708A and all brands of DVD's I have tested have the same size (4483MB).In the thread you can find sizes from 1/1 to 1/30 DVD. Latest sizes can be useful to put entire TV series like Star Trek into one single DVD.I have tested it and it looks great.

[Hobojobo]

@marteaga: Just open the idx file with SubRip instead of the the vobs. It rips the subs from the idx/sub file.

Or did I get you wrong?

[pindawg]

Originally posted by marteaga
Is there any chance to convert idx/sub to .srt or .sub directly, that is, without the original vobs???

I usually download them from here: http://www.divxsubtitles.net if I don't have the VOB's, or just don't feel like doing them myself.

[Elnoyle]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Sorry for appearing stupid, but can someone please explain what len0x means by:

'- added support for ".ivtc" control file in input dir to force normal IVTC on hybrid-detected material'

I tried creating a dummy file with the same name as the ***.ifo file but giving it a .ivtc extension instead, that didn't do anything - can anyone provide the details on how to activate this feature please?

thanks,

The way I did it was NOT naming the ".ivtc" file the same as the IFO file. I simply created a dummy ".ivtc" file (with exactly that extension and filename... it has no actual name). When I put it into my directory with the IFO and VOBs, it worked beautifully.

I hope that helps.

[rmagere]

How do you create a file without filename in windows? I know that is trivial in linux and unix but windows complains about lack of filename.

P.S. I know how to create it in dos (or rather in the command prompt with "copy con .ivtc" but I don't think that is a trivial operation for a newby and althought the .itvc is not a newby option that doesn't mean it should be more complex than needed.

[Carraway]

Originally posted by rmagere
How do you create a file without filename in windows? I know that is trivial in linux and unix but windows complains about lack of filename.

Here's the way I do it:

--Open notepad
--Save blank file as ".ivtc", including the quotes, into the folder.

If you don't use quotes, it'll save it as .ivtc.txt, and that's just no good.

There may be an easier way than this, but it definitely works.

[goofer456]

Originally posted by Jorgen
Well, according to http://www.kiss-technology.com/?p=faqdp450&v=press#gen13 .sub subtitles are supported ;)

But rar-compressed .sub files are not supported :( which is why I requested an option to disable compression.
This option could preferably be set in a config txt file for advanced users - no need to confuse newbies with another option.
/Jorgen

This is easy. Just Unrar the .sub file and rename it to the name of the AVI file. Burn both files on a CD/DVD and voila...

I have done this about ten times with succes. Now if only Kiss would fix the subtitles timing problem...

[len0x]

Originally posted by goofer456
This is easy. Just Unrar the .sub file and rename it to the name of the AVI file. Burn both files on a CD/DVD and voila...

I have done this about ten times with succes. Now if only Kiss would fix the subtitles timing problem...

Please do not confuse the audience. None of standalones support vobsub format.

[marteaga]

Originally posted by Hobojobo
@marteaga: Just open the idx file with SubRip instead of the the vobs. It rips the subs from the idx/sub file.

Or did I get you wrong?

No, you are not mistaken!!, that was right what I asked, thanks :)

[QNX]

2 len0x

what about HDTV files encoding? with 60FPS?

i've tried to encode with GK - FPS lovering from 60 to 47 :(

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX

what about HDTV files encoding? with 60FPS?

i've tried to encode with GK - FPS lovering from 60 to 47 :(

I'm not sure that I follow this request. For a start AutoGK doesn't support HDTV resolutions/ratios. FPS is secondary issue here. Are you trying to feed in 60p or 60i source? lowering of FPS is due to ivtc, which is happening because of source being detected as FILM (log will tell you more).

[MrSocko101]

Have used AutoGK a lot lately, never had problems, but now i've upgraded to 1.08 and selected 1/3 CD Size and got 116MB (instead of 233MB)...
I'm using the xvid rc3 (or did i just miss that this codec isn't supported with the filesize-setting yet?).

thx in advance

Socko

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Carraway
Here's the way I do it:

--Open notepad
--Save blank file as ".ivtc", including the quotes, into the folder.

If you don't use quotes, it'll save it as .ivtc.txt, and that's just no good.

There may be an easier way than this, but it definitely works.

A few more steps at first will make the job much easier in the future:

1) Create a new text file anywhere you want (right click anywhere in an open folder, select "New" from the popup menu, pick "Text Document". That will create "New Text Document.txt"

2) Edit that text file with notepad and enter the following text on the first line:

echo >.ivtc

3) Close and save the text file

4) Rename that text file from "New Text Document.txt" to "IVTC.bat"

5) Now you can keep a copy of this batch file handy, and everytime you need the illusive ".ivtc" file, copy the batch file to the folder with your .vob's, double click it, and voila, your ".ivtc" file is created.

6) (Most important step) - Rant at Microsoft for removing functionality from their $500 OS's that was there in the $39 original version of DOS.

[((( atom )))]

Originally posted by Mtz
Yes, and maybe 4460 MB for start the calculations, because some DVD's are crap and I think that remained 20 MB it's not a big deal for the whole quality of the novies.

1/3 = 1486 MB
1/4 = 1115 MB
1/5 = 892 MB
1/6 = 743 MB

until now i always went for 1400mb when making my movies. this way i can alway fit 3 onto a dvd or split them for 2 cds, since not every pc has a dvd rom. to me it is always important to keep as compatible as possible.

[vanart3030]

Man you are the greatest!
Thank you so much for including the sizes for DVDR media!
That is a really software for the enthusiast made by someone who listens!
Cheers ,
Art

[vanart3030]

DVD-5
DVD-5 is a single sided single layer DVD that stores up to about 4.7 GB = 4 700 000 000 bytes and that is 4.38 computer GigaBytes where 1 kilobyte is 1024 bytes(4 700 000 000B/1024 = about 4 589 843KB/1024 = about 4485MB/1024 = about 4.38GB) . Video DVD, DVD-R/W and DVD+R/W supports this format. Often referred to as "single sided, single layer".

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/glossary?all#DVD-5

[len0x]

Originally posted by vanart3030

Thank you so much for including the sizes for DVDR media!


make sure you get version 1.09 for proper DVDR sizes...

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi, i've just encoded the PAL Casablanca DVD with vbr mp3 audio. The DVD includes only mono audio, but final mp3 source is encoded as stereo. i've checked ifo and stream info, in both the source is manchend as mono...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hi, i've just encoded the PAL Casablanca DVD with vbr mp3 audio. The DVD includes only mono audio, but final mp3 source is encoded as stereo. i've checked ifo and stream info, in both the source is manchend as mono...

No one said that it will be encoded as mono. In fact if you have a look at TODO kist on the first page - you'll see...

P.S. Can you post stream info file from it, plz?

[len0x]

btw version 1.09 includes a couple of things which some of you wanted to see:
- support for cartoon mode
- support for credits encoding

both are working only for XviD 1.0...

[rantingotaku]

Originally posted by len0x
btw version 1.09 includes a couple of things which some of you wanted to see:
- support for cartoon mode
- support for credits encoding

both are working only for XviD 1.0...

I bow to your greatness :D how would I do the credit option.. just find the frame I want it to start at, and type the number in a .credits file? (same question for cartoon mode)

[len0x]

Originally posted by rantingotaku
just find the frame I want it to start at, and type the number in a .credits file? (same question for cartoon mode)

yes, exactly - first line should just contain frame number. (for ".cartoon" file contents don't matter)

[jo42]

FWIW, I tried 1.08 beta on a 3GHz P4 with Hyperthreading turned on and it crashed right after double-clicking the AutoGK icon. I'll try 1.09 tonight and post the Dr. Watson text log dump file - it shows the instruction where it biffed.

Rebooting and turning HT off, AutoGK 1.08 worked just fine. I'm running Windows XP SP1 with current updates.

[pixolex]

Thanks Len0x for credit option...it's the thing i have been expecting...many thanks... :D

Maybe some one can make litle aplication to open a window and can set the credits with a slider and put the frame number in that .credits file...it's not your ideia do that in the gui isn't it... :(

[Alwayscamp]

Hi and thanks for the AutoGK.
iv'e scooped through this thread and a few others and was still a little confused wuth the .credits and the .cartoon files.

Q. where do i put the file i which folder?

sorry if its been answered already
thanks in advance

[RathO]

@len0x: wow, my "credits option" request has been filled very quickly!! So many thanx!!! It's so incredeble how much bitrate credits can eat up! It was a must :p

Best regards!

Suggestion: The DVD Decryptor icon beside the input directory should be enabled so we can clic on it and it automatically opens the so needed program...

[RathO]

Originally posted by Alwayscamp
Q. where do i put the file i which folder?
Into the input folder

[Wolfman]

lets get ahead of the game, predefined DVD sizes are all for 4.3gb media, what about us folks using DL 8.5gb?? :sly:

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
yes, exactly - first line should just contain frame number. (for ".cartoon" file contents don't matter)

@lenox,

Thanks for the new features (.ivtc, .cartoon and .credits). Just a copule of small housekeeping issues:

1) I used .ivtc yesterday, works fine, and it's reported as being used in the log so you know it was correctly activated. But it gets activated _after_ analyzing the source, and determining the hybrid thresholds - if you are just going to override the hybrid deinterlacing, could you eliminate that step and save the time (it took about 10 minutes on an Athlon XP 2600+), or do you still need to do the analysis anyways?

2) I used the cartoon option today, and I'm _assuming_ that the flag was actually set and the feature enabled, but there's no mention of it in the log, so I don't really know if it was actually used or not. Could you report "using cartoon mode" or something similar in the log?

3) credits - didn't try them, but same comment as #2 if it's not reported in log.

Thanks again.

[jo42]

0010 bits:

1.09 beta is works on my 3GHz P4 HT with HyperThreading turned on.

Good stuff. :)

[jo42]

Did a simple HyperThreading disabled vs. HyperThreading enabled encoding speed test. Same source, same encode settings, XviD 1.0 RC3 codec. Output files where byte-for-byte identical.

Compression test
HT off: 16 minutes 54 seconds, 10.12 fps
HT on: 14 minutes 22 seconds, 11.91 fps

First pass
HT off: 1 hour, 34 minutes 16 seconds, 36.29 fps
HT on: 1 hour, 19 minutes 58 seconds, 42.78 fps

Second pass
HT off: 2 hours 22 minutes 34 seconds, 24.00 fps
HT on: 2 hours 2 minutes 33 seconds, 27.92 fps

w00t!!

[len0x]

Originally posted by jo42
0010 bits:

1.09 beta is works on my 3GHz P4 HT with HyperThreading turned on.


I didn't touch anything though :)
Are you sure that AutoGK starts _every_ time OK ?

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by len0x

P.S. Can you post stream info file from it, plz?

0x20 - Subtitle - English / LBA: 309 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Nederlands / LBA: 312 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Deutsch / LBA: 355 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Français / LBA: 363 / PTS: 00:00:01.080 / Delay: 800ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 61 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 4:3 / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.280 / Delay: 0ms

[len0x]

I've added support for mono mp3 encoding, but in my test if you have stereo material - lame mono option (-m m) produces almost the same output. I don't have real 1 channel DVDs atm, so may be GizmoDerMokwai can tell us if it works properly on those...

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
I've added support for mono mp3 encoding, but in my test if you have stereo material - lame mono option (-m m) produces almost the same output.

My "A chump at Oxford" (Laurel&Hardy) DVD has a Dolby Digital Dual Mono audio, and as I suppose AutoGK 1.10 encode it as stereo. This is the BeSweet log:

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile
E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -
azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h --cbr -b 64 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 192kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------


Of course no one could recognize a stereo from a dual mono by its name (AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps) and I've seen a lot of dvd with mono tracks like this. So forcing should be the only choice, isn't it?

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

Of course no one could recognize a stereo from a dual mono by its name (AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps) and I've seen a lot of dvd with mono tracks like this. So forcing should be the only choice, isn't it?

yep, does it work properly when forced ?

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
does it work properly when forced ?

Yes, this is the BeSweet log:

BeSweet v1.5b25 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 03/26/04 , 21:11:18.

C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\gk_tmp\PPP
AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01
2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3 -logfile E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch
192Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal )
-lame( -m m -h --cbr -b 64 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\gk_tmp\PPP AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 192kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 64
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Mono
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------


I've verified that the mp3 is a mono 64 kbps 480000 Hz one. And I love the speed of Lame mono encoding :D !

Thanks.

[RathO]

Anyone had success with ".credits" yet? 'cause i didn't...:confused:

Regards

[AlmanNewfred]

How do you find the frame number of the credits? DVD2AVI doesn't seem to show the numbers.

Sorry if this was already explained. I look but didn't see it.

[Carraway]

Two things:

First, I tried to use the .credits file in two different movies, and both ended up oversized. 10 Things I Hate About You ended up at 735 MB, American Beauty ended up at 726 MB. I noticed no quality decrease in the credits, despite the fact that after 10 Things was finished encoding, the Xvid settings looked like this:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/10things/xvid_settings.gif

(I had American Beauty and 10 Things queued, so I didn't get a chance to check out the settings after American Beauty was done since it then jumped right into encoding 10 Things, but I assume they would've looked the same).

Anyway, I basically have no idea what happened. Here are random (and in all likelihood, useless) files from each encoding: American Beauty (http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/americanbeauty/) and 10 Things I Hate About You (http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/10things/).

The second thing has to do with the red/green ghosting that affects me and apparently no one else. :)

I've got a new wrinkle in the search for what causes it. I did two passes at episode S01E15 of Will & Grace, one with standalone support, one without.

Screenshots with ESS support:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_ess01.jpg http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_ess02.jpg

And without:
http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_noess01.jpg http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/willgrace/willgrace_noess02.jpg

In any event, in the AVS file that was produced by the ESS version, changing the second instance autocrop to a multiple of 8 eliminates the ghosting.

OK, done being annoying now. :)

[MomoNyo]

Hi len0x

Seeing as you're in a feature-adding mood these days (:p) is there any chance of adding that no-audio option a few of us asked for way back? I've been using FairUse lately purely because I can make video-only encodes with it, but it would be nice to get back to using AutoGK again.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by MomoNyo

Seeing as you're in a feature-adding mood these days (:p) is there any chance of adding that no-audio option a few of us asked for way back?

Maybe a .noaudio ? ;)

[AlmanNewfred]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
Maybe a .noaudio ? ;)

Pretty please? :)

Anyway I was able to get the credits frame # by loading the vobs into VirtualDubMod. But my encode was also oversized, by about 75MB.

[AlmanNewfred]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
Maybe a .noaudio ? ;)

And/or .oggvorbis, maybe??? :devil:

[gircobain]

Originally posted by Carraway
Two things:

First, I tried to use the .credits file in two different movies, and both ended up oversized. 10 Things I Hate About You ended up at 735 MB, American Beauty ended up at 726 MB. I noticed no quality decrease in the credits, despite the fact that after 10 Things was finished encoding, the Xvid settings looked like this:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/10things/xvid_settings.gif

@lenox:
Aren't weight zones with values smaller than 0.30 likely to screw up size prediction?

Also, would it be possible to make it so it read off .credits file a switch in order to turn on greyscale encoding for credits?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Carraway
Two things:

First, I tried to use the .credits file in two different movies, and both ended up oversized. 10 Things I Hate About You ended up at 735 MB, American Beauty ended up at 726 MB. I noticed no quality decrease in the credits, despite the fact that after 10 Things was finished encoding, the Xvid settings looked like this:

Exact problem here - encoded a movie without .credits, then again, same settings _with_ .credits, first one came out to 1.36 GB (1,469,192,192 bytes), second one oversized by 30mb to 1.39 GB (1,497,878,528 bytes), and the credits do _not_ appear to have any further compression applied.

[MomoNyo]

Originally posted by AlmanNewfred
And/or .oggvorbis, maybe??? :devil:

Actually the point of a no-audio option would be so there'd be no need for adding alternate audio formats. You would encode the audio first to the format of your choice (HE-AAC here) and then encode the video (with the no-audio option) to the required size.

[((( atom )))]

@len0x
finally autogk also starts on my p4 machine, where it didn't even start with ht disabled. works with and without it now. thx!

a little wish:
for choosing the output filename, i have to click the browse-button everytime. i guess in most of the cases ppl simply want the output file to be in the same folder as their sources, at least i always do. it would be nice, if i could enter the filename directly into the field without having to browse.

another little issue with the filenames: i can't use the characters [ and ], wich are valid characters for a filename in windows.

greetings

[BoNeLeSS]

I had oversized output with .credits (start at frame 135200) option aswell.

Encoding David Cronenberg's eXistenZ with a target size of 702MB, ended up in 724MB. (Never had overize problems before with AutoGK)

Here is the log (http://www.halfrules.com/pers/BoNeLeSS/eXistenZ_gk.log)

Anyway, your program rocks len0x. :)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by len0x
I've added support for mono mp3 encoding, but in my test if you have stereo material - lame mono option (-m m) produces almost the same output. I don't have real 1 channel DVDs atm, so may be GizmoDerMokwai can tell us if it works properly on those...

worked out for me, i hade real mono not dual mono source on my dvd, thing dual mono is recognized as 2.0 and only real mono as 1.0

[Hesse]

I seem to be getting undersized files (about half size) when I am trying to encode using the Xvid 1.0 RC3 codec. I tried 1.09 with the same result. I also tried 1.10, but I was going to test the ".credits" option. Am I doing something wrong with the new Xvid? I think I remember reading that it was automatically detected, but is there a setting I need to change?

Here is my log:

[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Input dir: E:\DVD\Andromeda\121
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Output file: E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\121.avi
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Audio: English
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Subtitles: none
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Codec: XviD
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Target size: 447Mb
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Started encoding.
[3/28/2004 12:16:08 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/28/2004 12:17:12 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/28/2004 12:17:12 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 41.58
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 94.80
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 2.89
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 2.31
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Found 61792 frames
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Audio size: 61,853,184 bytes (58.99 Mb)
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Overhead: 733,824 bytes (0.70 Mb)
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Video size: 406,126,464 bytes (387.31 Mb)
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Running compressibility test.
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\121_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\121.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Telecide(order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 12:23:59 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\121_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\121_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Duration was: 9 minutes 37 seconds
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Speed was: 5.35 fps.
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 85.42
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Chosen resolution is: 672x368 ( AR: 1.83 )
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 77.82
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Running first pass.
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\121_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\121.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.21518987341772)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.21518987341772 : 1.18518518518519
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 672
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Telecide(order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 12:33:37 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\121_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\121.avi");
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 2:39:33 AM] Duration was: 2 hours 5 minutes 55 seconds
[3/28/2004 2:39:33 AM] Speed was: 8.18 fps.
[3/28/2004 2:39:33 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 89.27
[3/28/2004 2:39:33 AM] Running second pass.
[3/28/2004 2:39:34 AM] Writing the following script to E:\DVD\Andromeda\121\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\121_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(1208,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\gk_tmp\\121 AC3 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\DVD\\Andromeda\\121\\121.avi");
===========================================================
[3/28/2004 4:33:35 AM] Duration was: 1 hour, 54 minutes 1 second.
[3/28/2004 4:33:35 AM] Speed was: 9.03 fps.
[3/28/2004 4:33:35 AM] Job finished.

[len0x]

Originally posted by gircobain
@lenox:
Aren't weight zones with values smaller than 0.30 likely to screw up size prediction?


looks like. I recall it was a problem with ealier RCs. though it was fixed. if not then should I use 30% or fixed quant instead I wonder ?

Originally posted by gircobain

Also, would it be possible to make it so it read off .credits file a switch in order to turn on greyscale encoding for credits?

lets make them first propertly, then we'll see

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hesse
I seem to be getting undersized files (about half size) when I am trying to encode using the Xvid 1.0 RC3 codec. I tried 1.09 with the same result. I also tried 1.10, but I was going to test the ".credits" option. Am I doing something wrong with the new Xvid? I think I remember reading that it was automatically detected, but is there a setting I need to change?


:readfaq: Q6.3

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))

another little issue with the filenames: i can't use the ]
characters [ and ], wich are valid characters for a filename in windows.


DVD2AVI CLI uses this internally so you can't use them in file names.

[QNX]

i've tried everything already :( with this HT problem...

tried imagecfg.exe from microsoft >> no use..

are here ppl that are using presscot cpu and have same problem?

:scared:

[davegould]

Originally posted by AlmanNewfred
And/or .oggvorbis, maybe??? :devil:

Isn't this impossible in AVIs? This is why I'm still using MKV & GKnot 0.29 alpha, and hoping somebody sorts out the XviD 1.0 support.

Is that complicated? I'll give it a go myself (I've done a small amount of Delphi programming), but have no real idea of how to do it or what's involved.

[jo42]

Originally posted by len0x
I didn't touch anything though :)
Are you sure that AutoGK starts _every_ time OK ?
I finally had AutoGK 1.09 crash on me starting on my HT system - 1st time in about 20 runs of it. Started fine just re-running it right after the crash.

Here is the Dr. Watson log:

Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Program Files\AutoGK\AutoGK.exe (pid=1452)
When: 3/28/2004 @ 19:22:19.109
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

*----> System Information <----*
Computer Name: ***
User Name: ***
Terminal Session Id: 0
Number of Processors: 2
Processor Type: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9
Windows Version: 5.1
Current Build: 2600
Service Pack: 1
Current Type: Multiprocessor Free
Registered Organization: ***
Registered Owner: ***

*----> Task List <----*
0 System Process
4 System
608 smss.exe
664 csrss.exe
688 winlogon.exe
732 services.exe
744 lsass.exe
912 Ati2evxx.exe
940 svchost.exe
1056 svchost.exe
1228 svchost.exe
1260 svchost.exe
1380 spoolsv.exe
1608 DkService.exe
1676 SMAgent.exe
356 Ati2evxx.exe
1240 Explorer.EXE
1976 SMax4PNP.exe
1452 AutoGK.exe
1508 drwtsn32.exe

*----> Module List <----*
(0000000000400000 - 000000000051e000: C:\Program Files\AutoGK\AutoGK.exe
(0000000070a70000 - 0000000070ad5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
(0000000071950000 - 0000000071a34000: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.10.0_x-ww_f7fb5805\comctl32.dll
(0000000073000000 - 0000000073023000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winspool.drv
(0000000073b50000 - 0000000073b65000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\AVIFIL32.DLL
(0000000073bd0000 - 0000000073bf0000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSVFW32.dll
(00000000763b0000 - 00000000763f5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll
(0000000076b40000 - 0000000076b6c000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winmm.dll
(0000000077120000 - 00000000771ab000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll
(00000000771b0000 - 00000000772d1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLE32.DLL
(00000000773d0000 - 0000000077bc2000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll
(0000000077be0000 - 0000000077bf4000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSACM32.dll
(0000000077c00000 - 0000000077c07000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\version.dll
(0000000077c10000 - 0000000077c63000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVCRT.DLL
(0000000077c70000 - 0000000077cb0000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
(0000000077d40000 - 0000000077dcc000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll
(0000000077dd0000 - 0000000077e5d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
(0000000077e60000 - 0000000077f46000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
(0000000077f50000 - 0000000077ff7000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll
(0000000078000000 - 0000000078086000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll

*----> State Dump for Thread Id 0x33c <----*

eax=00a12348 ebx=00404053 ecx=00000000 edx=0012f901 esi=00000000 edi=0012ff7c
eip=004035d6 esp=0012f9c4 ebp=0012ff94 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010206

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for C:\Program Files\AutoGK\AutoGK.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for C:\Program Files\AutoGK\AutoGK.exe
function: AutoGK
004035bf c3 ret
004035c0 e897030000 call AutoGK+0x395c (0040395c)
004035c5 84d2 test dl,dl
004035c7 7e05 jle AutoGK+0x35ce (004035ce)
004035c9 e876030000 call AutoGK+0x3944 (00403944)
004035ce c3 ret
004035cf 90 nop
004035d0 85c0 test eax,eax
004035d2 7407 jz AutoGK+0x35db (004035db)
004035d4 b201 mov dl,0x1
FAULT ->004035d6 8b08 mov ecx,[eax] ds:0023:00a12348=????????
004035d8 ff51fc call dword ptr [ecx-0x4]
004035db c3 ret
004035dc 53 push ebx
004035dd 56 push esi
004035de 57 push edi
004035df 89c3 mov ebx,eax
004035e1 89d7 mov edi,edx
004035e3 ab stosd
004035e4 8b4bd8 mov ecx,[ebx-0x28]
004035e7 31c0 xor eax,eax

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0012ff94 004040a7 00406793 7ffdf000 004c7f66 AutoGK+0x35d6
0012ffc0 77e814c7 70a9f1ab 80000002 7ffdf000 AutoGK+0x40a7
0012fff0 00000000 004c7f54 00000000 78746341 kernel32!GetCurrentDirectoryW+0x44

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
000000000012f9c4 b9 3d 40 00 5d 40 40 00 - 00 00 00 00 f2 51 48 00 .=@.]@@......QH.
000000000012f9d4 48 23 a1 00 d4 fa 12 00 - 04 fa 12 00 10 fa 12 00 H#..............
000000000012f9e4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 2e 17 fb 77 ...............w
000000000012f9f4 d4 fa 12 00 7c ff 12 00 - ec fa 12 00 ac fa 12 00 ....|...........
000000000012fa04 7c ff 12 00 42 17 fb 77 - 7c ff 12 00 bc fa 12 00 |...B..w|.......
000000000012fa14 00 17 fb 77 d4 fa 12 00 - 7c ff 12 00 ec fa 12 00 ...w....|.......
000000000012fa24 ac fa 12 00 4e 40 40 00 - 74 ff 12 00 d4 fa 12 00 ....N@@.t.......
000000000012fa34 7c ff 12 00 0d 79 f9 77 - d4 fa 12 00 7c ff 12 00 |....y.w....|...
000000000012fa44 ec fa 12 00 ac fa 12 00 - 4e 40 40 00 74 ff 12 00 ........N@@.t...
000000000012fa54 d4 fa 12 00 24 06 00 00 - ff ff ff ff 11 b6 e7 77 ....$..........w
000000000012fa64 7b b5 e7 77 e1 b5 e7 77 - 94 7a 4c 00 98 00 00 00 {..w...w.zL.....
000000000012fa74 54 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 - 50 0d 4e 00 00 e0 fd 7f T.....@.P.N.....
000000000012fa84 00 e0 fd 7f 18 00 1a 00 - 00 ec fd 7f 00 00 08 02 ................
000000000012fa94 98 fa 12 00 00 00 40 00 - 60 fa 12 00 00 00 00 00 ......@.`.......
000000000012faa4 00 00 00 00 04 fb 12 00 - 73 7c f7 77 00 d4 03 00 ........s|.w....
000000000012fab4 00 00 13 00 00 c0 12 00 - 34 fe 12 00 ba 5d f7 77 ........4....].w
000000000012fac4 00 00 00 00 ec fa 12 00 - d4 fa 12 00 ec fa 12 00 ................
000000000012fad4 8e 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 f2 51 48 00 .............QH.
000000000012fae4 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 3f 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 ........?.......
000000000012faf4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 0c 20 00 00 ............. ..

Hope it helps...

[Hesse]

Originally posted by len0x
:readfaq: Q6.3

Sorry, I thought I had done it that way, but apparently I hadn't.

I encoded the same ep with the ".credits" option. The target was 447 MB, but it came out to be 481 MB with no reduction in quality of credits. It sounds like the same problem a couple of other people have posted.

If a log file will help, I can post it.

Thanks,

Jesse

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
looks like. I recall it was a problem with ealier RCs. though it was fixed. if not then should I use 30% or fixed quant instead I wonder ?


Follow up on that. I've done some testing and it looks to me that size prediction is correct while actual encoding is not! As evryone mentioned that credits are not encoded with worse quality (I tried 20%, 30%, 50%) - it the same as Zone 0. Looks like of XviD a bug to me which means no credits in 1.0 so far.

P.S. I also tried quant based Zone 1 setting and it does encode it at a proper quant, but file size is really undersized after that - I'm not sure that current XviD can properly handle zones with quality and quant based settings at the same time.

[len0x]

Originally posted by len0x
Follow up on that. I've done some testing and it looks to me that size prediction is correct while actual encoding is not! As evryone mentioned that credits are not encoded with worse quality (I tried 20%, 30%, 50%) - it the same as Zone 0. Looks like of XviD a bug to me which means no credits in 1.0 so far.


I have an idea why is it happening actually - may be credit option will not happen in AutoGK for a while if I'm right...

[Shuichiro]

does AutoGK allow to edit the avs script before encoding with 1.10? Or doesn't it create avs scripts before starting the job list?

[Taurus]

@Shuichiro

AutoGk is for Newbies, NoObs, DAUs.
Sure you can manipulate the hell out of EVERY program,
if you know how to do it.
But I think this is not what lenox is heading for.
If you know how to edit or manipulate AVS scripts, so why do't you just use the Big Brother: GordianKnot?
This program fullfills every need for a little advanced people.
So let's stay on the road and don't overburden this sweet LITTLE AutoGk with too much extras.
To me it's just right if I want to do everyday jobs, for the others
I use a little more sophisticated programs.
Right now testing all the new extras lenox implanted in the last betas is more then time consuming, I don't know how he manages his time, to be so creative. @lenoxThanks, thanks, thanks!

Cheers

Taurus

[len0x]

fixed credits problems (encoding with credits is now done without quantizers limitation like I used to do that), more credits options (see history) plus no audio option. I'm done with the feature now. Will be waiting for xvid to get released to rebuild full installers.

P.S. can someone try latest vdubmod from sourceforge (1.5.10.1 + latest fixes) and tell me if there are any issues. I wanna migrate at some point but need testing...

[AZEncoder]

Extracted short three minute video (using DVD Decryptor with appropiriate settings) from DVD and tried to encode it. Here is the IFO file (I opened it with IFOEdit and it looks ok to me, that's not saying a whole lot though) and the error message I get.

IFO Contents:

VTS overview:

Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Not Specified (Linear PCM) 2ch 48Kbps 16bps (ID: 0xa0)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:03:37.25 / 30 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:03:35.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:35.00] [Frames: 6450]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:00:02.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:37.25] [Frames: 6535]

Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: [English]

Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)


Stream Information.txt contents:
0xA0 - Audio - LPCM / 2ch / 48kHz / 16bit / Unknown (' ') / LBA: 6 / PTS: 00:00:00.300 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x480 (NTSC) / 4:3 / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.300 / Delay: 0ms

Error Message:
"Error parsing input directory. Make sure you used DVDDecrypter in IFO mode to rip a DVD."

I doubled checked and I can use the exact same settings on a movie DVD and it works fine. Any ideas what might be wrong?

Thanks!
AZEncoder

[rmagere]

Just a suggestions, as you have said that you have put a stop to features would you consider adding to the update.exe a file called "hidden-options.txt" with the filenames of the hidden options and an example of the options. I know that it's possible to find out what are the options from the history.txt file but I think it might be helpfull to have them also in an approriate file as I know a few people that would find it helpful (i.e. they are newby but still would like to use a couple of the advanced options)

e.g

Hidden Options
The following files should be created in the source directory (i.e. where you have put the vobs you are going to encode).
If you are using Windows in order to create a file made of just an extension look at the end of this file.

Force encoding sound in mono mp3
.mono

Force cartoon mode for XviD
.cartoon

Force IVTC
.ivtc

Encode Credits with different settings
.credits
inside .credits file write starting frame
qualite percentage (20-100)
greyscale (TRUE,FALSE - in capital letters)
e.g.
12304
20
FALSE


How to create an extension only file in windows
From the command prompt type "echo. > filename"
or alternatively create a bat file to generate the files for you when you need them.
e.g.
create a file called mono.bat and inside it type echo. > .mono
create similar files for the other options.

[Azik]

Len0x: Thanks a lot! great program!
rmagere: great! thanks.
but what is the fastest way to find the frame number with start of credits?

[Shuichiro]

Originally posted by Taurus
@Shuichiro

If you know how to edit or manipulate AVS scripts, so why do't you just use the Big Brother: GordianKnot?
This program fullfills every need for a little advanced people.
So let's stay on the road and don't overburden this sweet LITTLE AutoGk with too much extras.

Taurus

1. Have u seen any updates for the bigger brother?
2. I don't think it is too much of a burden. I like AutoGK very much (also I am still using GKnot). I like the idea. I just wanted to know, if I can edit the avs file before encoding (to add some additional lines)
3. Thanx Lenox for your work. And if u don't like to implement that, I fully understand.

[MomoNyo]

Thanks for the no audio option len0x! Tried the new AutoGK out last night and it works like a dream!

[qwerty .ru]

Ctrl-F10 - This shortcut is still not working on my system (XP SP1, AutoGK 1.12b). I read the FAQ and I have tried Ctrl-F10 with all running applications - nothing happens with all of them. So, let me ask two questions:

-how could I find the application that are using that shortcut?

-is it not too simple to use in program interface something like chekbox and/or just one more droplist to select second audio/subs or no_audio/no_subs INSTEAD the Ctrl-F10 shortcut?


PS Great thanx to Lenox anyway. AutoGK is the very helpfull thing.

[vermaccio]

Originally posted by rmagere
Just a suggestions, as you have said that you have put a stop to features would you consider adding to the update.exe a file called "hidden-options.txt" with the filenames of the hidden options and an example of the options.........

Yes! It could be fantastic to have a little manual about those secret options.

Or what about creating a little key called "secret options" that opens a special windows with those "secret" settings inside? It could be better than opening the secret files (as .caroon) by hand with a text editor.

[len0x]

Originally posted by AZEncoder
Error Message:
"Error parsing input directory. Make sure you used DVDDecrypter in IFO mode to rip a DVD."

I doubled checked and I can use the exact same settings on a movie DVD and it works fine. Any ideas what might be wrong?


Which version of AutoGK are you using? I just tried opening your stream info file with current version and it worked OK.

[len0x]

Originally posted by rmagere
Just a suggestions, as you have said that you have put a stop to features would you consider adding to the update.exe a file called "hidden-options.txt" with the filenames of the hidden options and an example of the options.

yes, will do...

[len0x]

Originally posted by qwerty .ru
-how could I find the application that are using that shortcut?


Tough one. May be close all of them (with task manager) and using trial and error method? :)

Originally posted by qwerty .ru

-is it not too simple to use in program interface something like chekbox and/or just one more droplist to select second audio/subs or no_audio/no_subs INSTEAD the Ctrl-F10 shortcut?


I kinda want to not show by default anything which says second audio (for my reasons). But I can have a look to make a shortcut work only in application, not global-wise so that it doesn't interfere with other applications.

[Wishbringer]

@len0x

do you always use --alt-preset 128 for mp3-encoding?
if not:
- how about using "-L -3db -s surround2 -c normal" for 5.1 conversion?
- and maybe an autoconfig for mp3 like this:
--- 1 CD rip = 128kbps
--- 2 CD rip = 160kbps
--- 3 CD rip = 192kbps

[AlmanNewfred]

Just finished an encode with .credits and no audio using 1.12 and all went perfectly. Thanks! The extra bits do make a difference with a 1 CD encode.

[Hesse]

I have done a couple of encodes using the .credits option in AutoGK 1.12. It doesn't seem to be working correctly for me. In a 42 min episode file, the last 9 min look to be encoded as credits. I chose a 20% value and that is what it looks like. The source is considered to be hybrid with a threshold of 0.91.

If the d2v project is created with Forced Film, there are 61788 frames, and I used a credits start of 60680. If I do a non-force there are 77234 frames. The quality degredation happens at about that frame if the project were not forced film.

The same problem happened on another episode that was detected to be film (not pure film).

I am going to try to redo the encode using the credits frame from the non forced film count and see if that works. It took the new credits frame even though it it beyond the detected frame count, so hopefully it works.

Jesse

[qwerty .ru]

Originally posted by len0x
May be close all of them (with task manager) and using trial and error method? :)

It's my the most preferred method. :)

Originally posted by len0x
But I can have a look to make a shortcut work only in application, not global-wise so that it doesn't interfere with other applications.

It would be very nice if you could make it.
Thank you.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hesse

If the d2v project is created with Forced Film, there are 61788 frames, and I used a credits start of 60680. If I do a non-force there are 77234 frames. The quality degredation happens at about that frame if the project were not forced film.


AutoGK is very intelligent in this matter. You should always specify correct non FF frame number. Potentially user don't know what's gonna happen with the source during encoding, so if 30->24fps conversion applied (for FILM and mostly FILM hybrid sources) then that number is mutiplied by 0.8 automatically within AutoGK.

[Hesse]

Originally posted by len0x
AutoGK is very intelligent in this matter. You should always specify correct non FF frame number. Potentially user don't know what's gonna happen with the source during encoding, so if 30->24fps conversion applied (for FILM and mostly FILM hybrid sources) then that number is mutiplied by 0.8 automatically within AutoGK.

Ok, that is what I had guessed and was originally going to do. Then I saw that GK detected the FF number of frames, even though I thought it was going to do something different.

Is it possible to output the non FF number of frames if you expect that it will be used during the encode so it wouldn't mislead anyone?

[QNX]

len0x

i've found the couse of HT lag on my system :D

when autogk running in compatibility mode, he using only cpu0, and the other applications that its launching (dvd2avi, VirtualDubMod, besweet) also using only cpu0...

that's why i'm have very hight load... so i'll waiting thill the vdub launches, go in the task manager and setting affinity fo 2 cpus :D all working :)

can u do something to remove compatibility mode also for subprogrammes :D

thx :D

[dpmott]

Hi all --

I'm a newbie. I meant to post here, but I ended up making an entirely new thread elsewhere:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=73646

I don't want to re-post, so I'm cross-posting... I'd appreciate any feedback in that other post.

Thanks for your time,
-Dave

[rmagere]

Originally posted by QNX
len0x

i've found the couse of HT lag on my system :D

when autogk running in compatibility mode, he using only cpu0, and the other applications that its launching (dvd2avi, VirtualDubMod, besweet) also using only cpu0...

that's why i'm have very hight load... so i'll waiting thill the vdub launches, go in the task manager and setting affinity fo 2 cpus :D all working :)

can u do something to remove compatibility mode also for subprogrammes :D

thx :D

Which is what I had said a few pages ago ;)

[QNX]

Which is what I had said a few pages ago
:rolleyes: :D

sorry. missed that, but there are no solution yet :(

Also on encoding i'm getting an error of vdubmod >>

Crash context:
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'mpeg2dec3dg'.

Thread traces:

Thread 00000178 (Main thread)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(321)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(351)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(369)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(617)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\VideoSource.cpp(645)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(432)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Main.cpp(307)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Main.cpp(346)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(442)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(448)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(454)
C:\Dvpt\VDub_1.5.x\VirtualDubMod15\VirtualDub\source\Init.cpp(458)

Thread call stack:02cd69f5: mpeg2dec3dg!closeVideo [02cb0000+10920+160d5]
02cd4537: mpeg2dec3dg!closeVideo [02cb0000+10920+13c17]
02cbb3c6: mpeg2dec3dg!?Close@CMPEG2Decoder@@QAEXXZ [02cb0000+b370+56]
02cbc483: mpeg2dec3dg!?Copyoddeven@CMPEG2Decoder@@IAEXPAUYV12PICT@@00@Z [02cb0000+bdc0+6c3]
02cbc438: mpeg2dec3dg!?Copyoddeven@CMPEG2Decoder@@IAEXPAUYV12PICT@@00@Z [02cb0000+bdc0+678]
02a01d19: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+1239]
02a00e38: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+358]
02f12e70: autocrop!00002e70
02f12e18: autocrop!00002e18
02a01d19: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+1239]
02a00e38: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+358]
031418cc: undot!000018cc
03141878: undot!00001878
02a01d19: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+1239]
02a00e38: avisynth!avs_create_script_environment [029f0000+10ae0+358]
029fc24b: avisynth!0000c24b
029fc4f2: avisynth!0000c4f2
77c2c283: msvcrt!free [77c10000+1c1bb+c8]
029fc488: avisynth!0000c488
02a02605: avisynth!DllCanUnloadNow [029f0000+12020+5e5]
02a023da: avisynth!DllCanUnloadNow [029f0000+12020+3ba]
73b55e82: AVIFIL32!AVIFileRelease [73b50000+5e74+e]
004165a1: AVIReadHandler::_destruct()
004146df: AVIReadHandler::~AVIReadHandler()
0041669d: AVIReadHandler::Release()
00485ef9: InputFileAVI::~InputFileAVI()
004876fa: InputFileAVI::(special)()
0046c6f0: CloseAVI()
00484de7: Deinit()
0048bd6d: WinMain@16()
77cd7d9a: ntdll!RtlLogStackBackTrace [77cc0000+17d75+25]
00554782: _unlock()
00551867: realloc()
00554782: _unlock()
77cd3e16: ntdll!RtlAcquirePebLock [77cc0000+13dee+28]
77cd3e1f: ntdll!RtlAcquirePebLock [77cc0000+13dee+31]
77cd3dc1: ntdll!RtlReleasePebLock [77cc0000+13db2+f]
77e61b3c: kernel32!GetStartupInfoA [77e60000+186c+2d0]
00551bba: WinMainCRTStartup()
77e856da: kernel32!BaseProcessInitPostImport [77e60000+253f7+2e3]
77e856e0: kernel32!BaseProcessInitPostImport [77e60000+253f7+2e9]

it appearing on the version that included in autogk and also on the newest version 1.5.1.0

[qwerty .ru]

Originally posted by QNX

Also on encoding i'm getting an error of vdubmod >>

Crash context:
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'mpeg2dec3dg'.

I had this error 3 or 5 times on the included in AutoGK version, but have not saved logs...:( AFAIK it happens on the first pass when it's done (right after 100% appears) and happens again on all first passes of queued jobs untill reboot of the system. The second pass seems to be running OK even without the reboot, but I'm not sure.

[AZEncoder]

@ len0x

Originally posted by len0x
Which version of AutoGK are you using? I just tried opening your stream info file with current version and it worked OK.

Tried using 1.0 and 1.12b as well, both did the same thing. I did both encodes one right after the other. I didn't change anything. In fact I ripped another movie right afterward and it worked great. I gotta believe there is something different about the way the IFO is formatted or structured that is causing the problem. My best guess anyway. Does AutoGK use the Stream Information.txt and the .IFO or does it just use the Stream Information.txt? The DVD that I am trying to pull the 3 minute video off of is not a commercial DVD. It was made by a friend. It works fine in my set top DVD player and in my computer using WinDVD as the player, but when I rip any of the video's off of the DVD and try to encode them I get the error message.

Is there a place I could upload the Stream Information.txt and the .VOB files and .IFO to so that you can take a look at them?

AZEncoder

[ydobon]

Hello everybody.

First of all, thanks Len0x for this terribly useful program.

I know feature-request time is over, but I wanted to suggest a little cosmetic detail: I don't know the rest of you but I use Morgan Stream Switcher and it supports IAS# tags. These tags allow to define a name for each audio stream. These names appear then in WMP menus. For example, if my movie has two audio tracks, English first and then Spanish, I add this to my VDubMod script:

VirtualDub.video.AddComment(0x00000000,"IAS1","English");
VirtualDub.video.AddComment(0x00000000,"IAS2","Espa\xc3\xb1ol");

(That weird thing in the second line is the UTF-8 encoded string "Español")

AutoGK knows the languages the user has picked, so I think it shouldn't be difficult to add this "feature". It's not a problem for me to add these tags later, but it would be a nice touch to have them "from the box".


Regards,
Ydobon

[MediaMage]

anyone got a mirror of autogk 1.12?
main page is down since a few hours

i´ll be happy to share it in emule for others ;)

[NMachiavelli]

Originally posted by qwerty .ru
Ctrl-F10 - This shortcut is still not working on my system (XP SP1, AutoGK 1.12b). I read the FAQ and I have tried Ctrl-F10 with all running applications - nothing happens with all of them.

I have v1.10 & v1.12 installed on 2 different computers, and with neither does Ctrl-F10 work. Why can't the Second Audio option be put into Advanced Settings?

Thanks.

[Carraway]

(Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrgh.)

Can somebody help me out? I thought I had the annoying red/green ghosting narrowed down to a Decomb bug, but now I just have no idea about anything. Where am I? How did I get here? (etc)

This example has literally nothing to do with AutoGK, but since I sort of stumbled upon this bug using the program, I figured I'd post about it here.

Using this minimal AVS script, I reproduced the bug (note the absence of the autocrop filter):

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\HEARTBREAKERS\temp.d2v")
crop(0,2,720,476)
Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
levels(0,2,255,0,255)

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/heartbreakers01.jpg

If I change the crop value to either (0,0,720,476) or (0,4,720,476), the problem goes away. (To save bandwidth, you can CLICK (http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/heartbreakers02.jpg) for proof that I am not lying.)

Similarly, if I change the second instance of hmultof=4 to hmultof=8 in AutoGK produced AVS scripts that also have the problem, it goes away.

So, what does this mean, where is the bug, and is there any chance of this being fixed in AutoGK (or Decomb!)? Help!

EDIT: Ah, I also want to add that removing crop() or putting Telecide before crop also fixes it. But, still, help!

[techz]

How come AutoGK uses vdubmod 1.5.4 and gknot uses vdubmod1.5.10?
I'm using AutoGK 1.0

[Wolfman]

a GOOD option (very friendly for all)
please check that output file does not already exist :mad: Give a warning suggesting renaming it?
Quality on quality based encodes seems to have fallen back??
What width is used on QBE? is it always full width

[manono]

Carraway-

So, what does this mean, where is the bug, and is there any chance of this being fixed in AutoGK (or Decomb!)?

The problem results from not cropping the height in multiples of 4 (the top and bottom crops must each be a multiple of 4, not just the resulting height) when dealing with interlaced material (which it is before IVTC is performed). The answer is to put Telecide/Decimate before Crop if you're not planning on cropping that way. It's not a Decomb bug, as the Decomb Doc states clearly:

Do not resize vertically before applying Decomb.

And it's not a problem in GKnot, as my 0.28.7.2 version has the IVTC before Crop:

Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)
#
# CROPPING
crop(44,22,428,338)

So maybe you have an older version (but I don't remember it being any different in older versions), or maybe you've been messing with the order without quite understanding what you're doing. Either that, or you were fooling around trying to reproduce the AutoGK problem by using GKnot.

So maybe AutoGK can benefit from handling the problem the same way as does GKnot (Crop after IVTC).

Edited later to correct a couple of backwards things I said, and to make it clearer, I hope. Thanks, Carraway, for not calling me on it.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi, i've ripped Tomb Raider 2 - The Cradle of Life (PAL) with forced subs and xvid+ac3 to 1400mb, but final avi has 3 segments. last one with 4,81mb of size...

Here's the log:
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Input dir: D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\LARA_CROFT_TOMB_RAIDER_2_VTS_01_PGC1
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Output file: D:\tmp\lctr2dwdl.avi
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Audio: Deutsch
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Subtitles: Deutsch
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Display only forced subtitles.
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Codec: XviD
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Target size: 1400Mb
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Custom resolution settings: minimum width of 512 pixels
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Custom audio settings: AC3
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Started encoding.
[03.04.2004 12:29:03] Demuxing and indexing.
[03.04.2004 12:35:38] Analyzing source.
[03.04.2004 12:35:38] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 12:46:34] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[03.04.2004 12:46:34] Source is considered to be progressive.
[03.04.2004 12:46:34] Found 168746 frames
[03.04.2004 12:46:34] Indexing subtitles.
[03.04.2004 12:46:34] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\tmp\DVD\Rips\LARA_CROFT_TOMB_RAIDER_2_VTS_01_PGC1\VTS_01_0.ifo
D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl
1
0
0 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] Audio size: 377,938,176 bytes (360.43 Mb)
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] Overhead: 2,003,840 bytes (1.91 Mb)
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] Video size: 1,088,064,384 bytes (1037.66 Mb)
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] Running compressibility test.
[03.04.2004 12:52:33] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
VobSub("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl.idx")
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 12:52:34] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\lctr2dwdl_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\lctr2dwdl_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 13:04:35] Duration was: 12 minutes 1 second.
[03.04.2004 13:04:35] Speed was: 11,69 fps.
[03.04.2004 13:04:36] Compressibility percentage is: 57,73
[03.04.2004 13:04:36] Chosen resolution is: 640x272 ( AR: 2,35 )
[03.04.2004 13:04:36] Predicted comptest value is: 70,97
[03.04.2004 13:04:36] Running first pass.
[03.04.2004 13:04:36] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
VobSub("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lctr2dwdl.idx")
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

[GizmoDerMokwai]

===========================================================
[03.04.2004 13:04:37] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\lctr2dwdl_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 15:05:03] Duration was: 2 hours 0 minutes 26 seconds
[03.04.2004 15:05:03] Speed was: 23,35 fps.
[03.04.2004 15:05:04] Expected quality of first pass size: 70,16
[03.04.2004 15:05:04] Running second pass.
[03.04.2004 15:05:04] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\lctr2dwdl_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\tmp\\gk_tmp\\LCTR2DWDL AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",0x00000203,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 17:57:54] Duration was: 2 hours 52 minutes 50 seconds
[03.04.2004 17:57:54] Speed was: 16,27 fps.
[03.04.2004 17:57:55] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource(0x73647561,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(0,84199);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.cd1.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 17:57:55] Splitting video into: D:\tmp\lctr2dwdl.cd1.avi
[03.04.2004 17:59:30] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource(0x73647561,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(84199,83928);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.cd2.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 17:59:30] Splitting video into: D:\tmp\lctr2dwdl.cd2.avi
[03.04.2004 18:01:06] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource(0x73647561,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(168127,618);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\tmp\\lctr2dwdl.cd3.avi");
===========================================================
[03.04.2004 18:01:06] Splitting video into: D:\tmp\lctr2dwdl.cd3.avi
[03.04.2004 18:01:08] Job finished.

btw, i used xvid 1.0

[Carraway]

Originally posted by manono
Either that, or you were fooling around trying to reproduce the AutoGK problem by using GKnot.

So maybe AutoGK can benefit from handling the problem the same way as does GKnot (Crop after IVTC).

Yep, that's exactly what I did -- I created the script in GKnot, then reversed the order of Crop and Telecide in the script to see if I could create the red/grey ghosting in a situation where AutoGK wasn't involved.

Originally posted by manono
It's not a Decomb bug, as the Decomb Doc states clearly:

Do not resize vertically before applying Decomb.

Thanks for pointing this out. Gives me peace of mind knowing that this bug isn't something that only affects me, or only affects my copy of AutoGK.

Thanks for your help manono.

[Hesse]

Thanks for pointing this out. Gives me peace of mind knowing that this bug isn't something that only affects me, or only affects my copy of AutoGK.



I did an encode of an Andromeda episode and I had a similar type problem. I haven't tried the suggestion of reversing the order of telecide and crop, though to see if it makes a difference.

Any chance this could be corrected in the next version of AutoGK?

Jesse

[fruitcake]

Originally posted by MediaMage
STANDALONE REPORT:
-------------------

got the hiteker he-940 player today from the local MEDIA-MARKT here in Germany for 89 Euros (about 60 Pound Sterling)

XVID Got some nasty failures, but divx just looks perfect.

Player supports also .srt subtitles, also multiple subs, multiple audio trackt.

player supports PROGRESSIVE SCAN

got a coaxiac digital output
got a optica digital output
got a RGB output
got a 6 cinch 6-channel output.

this thing is so great!

even mp3pro and wma is supported, and firmware updates are supposed to come out every few month.

so if you live in germany and got an Media Markt near you, don´t hesitate to buy one ;)

Originally posted by orestis
Great tool... A few more things and it will rival GK for most encoding tasks:

Just a little request: Since AutoGK can use external subtitles (with vobsub), can you add an option of using multiple language subtitles (I really like to get both the Greek (my native)and the movie's subtitle stream, to be able to practice my english and not having to deal with stupid subtitle translations.

Thank you very much again!

You will probably by now have realised what I'm getting at, and I have a sneaking suspicion that len0x is going to say these things are outside the scope of AutoGK, but...

What I really want is this, and it would combine several things:
* seperate options for 'burned-in' and 'external' (VobSub) subtitles.
* 'burned-in' option is in the main interface, as it is now.
* for external subtitles, go to the 'Advanced' screen, where there is a list of all the subtitles, with a tick box (check box) next to each one, so that it is possible to select all at once.

Also:
* there should also be an option on the advanced screen (or on the main screen) to allow space for a few extra files, for example: DivX installer, .srt subs, etc. It should be possible to specify space to be left per CD.
Supposing I am doing 2 CDs, and I have a DivX installer which is 5 MB and I want it on the first CD, and I have .srt subtitles which are 2 MB per CD. Then AutoGK should create an .avi of 1391 MB, and split it after 693 MB.
(I'm pretty sure some people have asked for something like this before.)

If you could incorporate those, I wouldn't want to use the full GordianKnot anymore, and that would be great. What I like about AutoGK is that it does a compressibility test and then makes a sensible (-ish) decision about what resolution to choose, what bitrate for the sound, etc. Len0x' opinion about what constitutes a 'sensible decision' may differ from mine, but that I am prepared to trust to his (= his/her) (no doubt better) judgement.

Something else that would be cool is to have the program automatically decide how many CDs to do. I suppose one would then have to have a slider to specify priority for tradeoff between No. of CDs and picture/sound quality. Plus: is it currently possible to turn off the automatic split? (I suppose it can be done by specifying a custom size rather than selecting a number of CDs.)
Maybe you will decide for requests like this you want to do a one-click program for making files to be played back on a PC, but the full GK is probably good enough for that. Maybe GK could have a special .ogm mode, but then again, maybe Doom9's tutorial is good enough for that. I suppose, if you give someone a remote control, he (=he/she) will ask, "Can't it press the buttons by itself?"
The amazing thing about AutoGK is, like I said, the 'intelligence'. What one really does not want to have are options where all one does is tell the program, e.g., whether the video is interlaced or not. Great work Len0x!! :D

[len0x]

- AutoGK will never be able to produced OCR-ed subs, (i.e. srt like text subs).

As for other requests - I just don't see them happening atm.

P.S. Let me stress this: AutoGK is not intended to ppl who used to use GK and now wish to do everything they can in GK in AutoGK as well...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hi, i've ripped Tomb Raider 2 - The Cradle of Life (PAL) with forced subs and xvid+ac3 to 1400mb, but final avi has 3 segments. last one with 4,81mb of size...


FAQ, Q 6.2

[len0x]

Originally posted by AZEncoder
[B]Does AutoGK use the Stream Information.txt and the .IFO or does it just use the Stream Information.txt?

AutoGK only uses stream info file if its present. You posted it already and I have no problems opening it...

[len0x]

Originally posted by manono
The problem results from not cropping the height in multiples of 4 (the top and bottom crops must each be a multiple of 4, not just the resulting height) when dealing with interlaced material (which it is before IVTC is performed). The answer is to put Telecide/Decimate before Crop if you're not planning on cropping that way. It's not a Decomb bug, as the Decomb Doc states clearly:

Do not resize vertically before applying Decomb.


But crop is not really resize - is it ? In autocrop I use 4 as a multiplier for crop values, so what's produced afterewards should always comply with IVTC rules...

Originally posted by manono
So maybe AutoGK can benefit from handling the problem the same way as does GKnot (Crop after IVTC).


For the moment I thought that it would indeed solve the problem, but then I had some doubts about it since its autocrop that is going to be used before IVTC - I have to see how it behaves there (it might screw it a bit...)

[manono]

fruitcake-welcome to the forum-

In a short search, I can't find out which chipset your Hiteker uses, but I suspect it's the ESS chipset. Maybe you know already, or can find out. But if it is ESS based, you'll have to reinstall AutoGK with the special ESS option in order to get your AutoGK XviD videos looking good. If you're testing XviDs from other sources, if they've been made using Packed Bitstream, then they'll most likely stutter like crazy. And they may also have other things such as GMC or Q-PEL that your player doesn't support.

You don't have to allow extra space on the CD for SRT format subtitles, because they take only from 50-100 KB and it's usually closer to 50 than 100 KB. For such things as the DivX installer you want to allow room for, make the video for a custom size and split it yourself any way you want. It takes about 2 minutes or so.

To get your SRT subs, you'll have to OCR them yourself (as len0x said). There is no automatic SRT subfile generator anywhere. In my searches, though, I did find that there are problems with the player reading SRT subs. Maybe firmware updates will fix that.

[fruitcake]

Can't we have seperate options for burned-in and external subtitles? E.g. it would be nice to burn-in 'forced subtitles' (in one language) and VobSub all subs in all languages.
I wasn't asking for an automatic OCR.

[manono]

Hi-

OK, my mistake about the OCR'd SRT subs.

As for burning in the Forced Subs and having the rest be external; AutoGK is going to create the VobSubs anyway, so select the Forced Subs to be burned in, and rename the VobSubs (idx and sub files) to be the same as the movie name, and then use DirectVobSub to choose the language upon playback. Unless I'm missing something else again. Now I see; it's not your Hideker HE-940 player, but Mediamage's report on the Hideker.

[fruitcake]

It's not my Hiteker, by the way; that was a quote from MediaMage on page 67.

Could the automatic split thing decide where to split it before encoding, and make sure it splits at a chapter-break? (It would have to be before encoding so that it can then set the target size so that each CD is exactly filled.) AutoGK could do a seperate compressibility test for each chapter, or do one compressibility test for the first 2/5 of chapters, one for the last 40%, and then one for each chapter in between. I can't see how you could argue that that would make the UI more complicated, and therefore unsuitable for newbies. You can tell DVDecrypter to extract the chapters (I think).

The following is from page 71 (orestis' quote is from p. 69):
Originally posted by duwde
Hi Len0x,

Are you going to add a second subtitle option ? :) I know some people have already asked that (including myself), but I think that would be a really nice feature. Or maybe (if it's easier for you) an checkbox like "include all subtitles".

You may be wondering why would I want a second subtitle, and the answer is that I like to keep the original english subtitle (for myself) and the portuguese subtitle to my friends/family. I bet a lot of people from other countries (that doesn't speak english) would love this option as well.

Btw, again, congratulations for the hybrid threshold calculations ! it's now 10x better :)
@manono: What? I didn't understand that.

[len0x]

Originally posted by fruitcake

Could the automatic split thing decide where to split it before encoding, and make sure it splits at a chapter-break? (It would have to be before encoding so that it can then set the target size so that each CD is exactly filled.) AutoGK could do a seperate compressibility test for each chapter, or do one compressibility test for the first 2/5 of chapters, one for the last 40%, and then one for each chapter in between. I can't see how you could argue that that would make the UI more complicated, and therefore unsuitable for newbies.(I think).


You're right it won't complicate the GUI, but I can find myself better things to do with AutoGK... Now I can almost promice you that splitting will never be improved in AutoGK since everyone is moving to DVDRs and the whole problem slowly being phased out. And target quality mode will be the most used mode for AutoGK.

P.S. The whole ideology behind newbie-oriented tool is that newbies don't even care where movie is split. I feel very reluctant to spend time trying to please advanced users who know how to do everything manually.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
You're right it won't complicate the GUI, but I can find myself better things to do with AutoGK... Now I can almost promice you that splitting will never be improved in AutoGK since everyone is moving to DVDRs and the whole problem slowly being phased out. And target quality mode will be the most used mode for AutoGK.

P.S. The whole ideology behind newbie-oriented tool is that newbies don't even care where movie is split. I feel very reluctant to spend time trying to please advanced users who know how to do everything manually.

I'd have to agree that this would be a *very* minimally used feature.

@ fruitcake - if you *really* need this feature, you can implement it yourself fairly simply as follows: _before_ you run autokg, use the equally impressive and free dvdshrink to cut yourself 2 new sets of vob files from the original disc - one set for chapters 1-x; another for chapters x-end. That only takes a couple of minutes up front. Then you can queue both sets of new vobs for encode in autogk and have 2 cd's split exactly where you want, and of equal file size (although why anyone would want 1/3 of the movie of better quality than the other half is beyond me).

[racketboy]

are there any issues with using RC4 of XviD 1.0 w/ AutoGK?

[Sharktooth]

I've done 2 encodings with RC4 and had no problems.

[manono]

Hi joeblow-

fruitcake's no dummy. I didn't give him enough credit to begin with. What he wants is to be able to split the movie on a chapter, but to have both (or 3) CDs have nearly equal quality. This is impossible to figure by just splitting before you start. I do something similar myself. I hate to have the movie split in the middle of a scene. As len0x said, a beginner won't care where it's split, and will be happy to have a good quality movie. Your method will fill the CDs, and will have the parts split at a good spot. But it will do nothing for making the 2 or 3 parts of the movie have more or less equal quality.

So when I have a 1400 MB movie after the encoding, and if there's no good place to split, I'll often find a better place to split nearby, split the stats file and the AC3 or MP3 at that same place, and run the second passes over again for the 2 parts. It's kind of a pain to do just for a good split spot, but I've done it enough times (but, of course, not in AutoGK), and like the results much better.

But running separate compress tests on the various chapters, and then combining the chapters afterwards in such a way that the resulting CDs have equal quality is a pretty cool idea. But I don't think it's going to happen. And, of course, doing it manually would be a nightmare, I think.

[Taurus]

@len0x and all the rest, watching this thread.

There are so many suggestions how to make this and that more comfortable (and complicated) for, let me say, advanced users.
I know there's a wishlist in the Gordian Knot Development Tree,
but I wonder why nobody else is heading for more quality on the rips they make.
If you put all that subs and dual audio to your encodes, not much space is left for the essential part of the game: THE MOVIE.
Sure, you can go for 2 or 3CDs.
But that is not how I'm thinking about the subject.
As I own all of the DVDs that I've ripped, you can be sure that I saw them, let's say, minimum two times.
So, what's the need for Credits?
If you cut them out entirely, plenty of space on your valuable Discs is more usable for the main video.
And all the fuzz about how to compress this fast moving lines and other bull... is gone.
So, if your goal is quality, that could be part of an solution...
Anyway, if nothing like that will be implanted in AutoGk, it is still the BEST, 'caus it gives me much time to do other things I love.

Cheers

Taurus

[manono]

fruitcake-

You didn't understand what? Choosing the language in DirectVobSub? OK, you have the forced subs burned in. You still have the VobSubs (idx and sub files) sitting there. When they are extracted, not just one language is extracted, but all the subs with all the languages. And when you burn in forced subs or any one of the languages, you're just burning in part of the whole set of languages included.

But you still have all the languages included in the vobsubs. Now, I always OCR myself. But when DirectVobSub is used to display vobsubs, you can choose which language to display. You right-click on the green arrow->DirectVobSub->General Settings->Language, and choose the language you want displayed.

I don't have any idx/sub files to test this, but I'm pretty sure that's the way it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. You just have to save some space on the CD for them. But you can rar them down to 4 or 5 MB at most, I think.

In Doom9's VobSub Guide (http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm), at the bottom, step 4-Playback, he confirms what I've just said. He seems to say that you need the IFO for this, also. I don't know, as I've never done it that way. Maybe someone can confirm or deny.

[vanart3030]

Wouldn’t it be great If one not only could use this powerful software to convert DVD into mpeg4 (xvid & divx) but also to convert huge video (.avi) files that you upload from your mini DV camera into mpeg4 (xvid & divx)!?!
Or may be this or similar software does exist!?
Thanks for any ideas
P.S. VirtualDub is not recognizing them…

[therealjoeblow]

@len0x - one more 'tweak' request, if it's not too much:

I often encode a movie several times just to see what difference going from 640 to 608 or 576 width has. In each case, the process starts with demuxing, indexing and then encoding audio, which can take up to 30 minutes +/-. I've noticed that the first thing that AGK does is delete the gk_tmp directory if it exists.

Instead of starting the process from scratch every time, would there be any simple way for you to check if the file has been demuxed, analyzed and if the audio is already encoded to the correct spec, and then just reuse those files to save the time on re-encodes?

[Wolfman]

My vote would be to allow avi or other mpeg1/2 streams as input for those of us who capture and keep tv epsiodes or films. this would also include DV footage too.

[Sandman2012]

In order to save wear and tear on the DVD, I'm using AutoGK to create an Xvid backup copy of my Henry Rollins Live At Luna Park disc, and for some reason it gets the aspect ratio wrong (the original aspect ratio is 4:3). The top and bottom of the vid get cut off, cutting off the top of Henry's head during closer shots. I can't seem to find any way to correct this? Any suggestions?

I apologise if this question has been asked already, but this is a long thread to try to browse.

Great software, BTW. Has worked well for all my Futurama and Simpsons discs.

[len0x]

red/green problems should go for good (hopefully).
New icon and logo for AutoGK - sort of rebranding :)

[fruitcake]

Originally posted by Wolfman
My vote would be to allow avi or other mpeg1/2 streams as input for those of us who capture and keep tv epsiodes or films. this would also include DV footage too.

I'm now going to be really hypocritical, and say that you can use VirtualDubMod for that. Having said which, I am yet to find out how one is supposed to do a two-pass encode using VirtualDub or VDubMod.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by fruitcake
... I am yet to find out how one is supposed to do a two-pass encode using VirtualDub or VDubMod.
Easy, do the first pass and then the second pass or use batch mode.
Originally posted by Wolfman
My vote would be to allow avi or other mpeg1/2 streams as input for those of us who capture and keep tv epsiodes or films. this would also include DV footage too.
The easiest and most usefull thing to do is .avs input.
Once you have it you can feed autogk with any kind of source.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
The easiest and most usefull thing to do is .avs input.
Once you have it you can feed autogk with any kind of source.

not really - you're forgetting about audio: how one is supposed to feed audio from avs to BeSweet ? :)

[Sharktooth]

eh, nice question:)
a possible solution is to drop besweet for .avs and encode the audio directly thru virtualdubmod (lame ACM).

[Stebs]

Doh!
After a lot of successful rips with AutoGK, yesterday I was having the already known red/green ghosting Problem for the first time. :(
What I did was ripping "Jackass - The Movie" with AutoGK 1.12b and Xvid 1.0rc3. Then tried 1.0rc4 today but with same bad result.
I have done already a rip with the exact same source and an older version of AutoGK (I think it was a beta above 0.8) and the Xvid-version that comes with it, and there where no such red/green ghosting Problem, so this may be related to Xvid 1.0x ? btw. I used not the "ESS compatible mode".
EDIT: The size of the last film with problems was 416x224 and the old, good one was 384x208 (surely because in the older I did put 2 audio streams in) -perhaps this helps track the Problem (there where indications in this forum that ghosting Problem has something to do with multiplier of size)

Then I saw this :D:

VERSION HISTORY
1.14 beta
- field operations (ivtc, deinterlace) are performed before crop now to avoid colour problems
...


So I´m gonna do a new run with the new version and report the result here...

Here is the log from the last red/green ghosting run:

[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Input dir: D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\VIDEO_TS
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Output file: D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\Jackass The Movie.avi
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Audio: English
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Subtitles: none
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Codec: XviD
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Target size: 700Mb
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Started encoding.
[06.04.2004 10:25:46] Demuxing and indexing.
[06.04.2004 10:28:13] Analyzing source.
[06.04.2004 10:28:13] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 10:32:51] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 89,00
[06.04.2004 10:32:51] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[06.04.2004 10:32:51] Analyzing PAL source with different field order.
[06.04.2004 10:32:51] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 10:37:32] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 88,86
[06.04.2004 10:37:32] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[06.04.2004 10:37:32] Found 127495 frames
[06.04.2004 10:37:32] Encoding audio.
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Audio size: 81,162,512 bytes (77.40 Mb)
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Overhead: 5,099,776 bytes (4.86 Mb)
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Video size: 647,740,912 bytes (617.73 Mb)
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Running compressibility test.
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\Jackass The Movie_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\Jackass The Movie.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 10:48:42] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\Jackass The Movie_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\Jackass The Movie_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Duration was: 7 minutes 55 seconds
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Speed was: 13,40 fps.
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Compressibility percentage is: 30,20
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Using softer resizer.
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Chosen resolution is: 416x240 ( AR: 1,73 )
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Predicted comptest value is: 68,13
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Running first pass.
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\Jackass The Movie_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvd\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\Jackass The Movie.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 416
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
KernelDeInt(order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 10:56:38] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\Jackass The Movie_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\Jackass The Movie.avi");
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 11:56:40] Duration was: 1 hour, 0 minutes 1 second.
[06.04.2004 11:56:40] Speed was: 35,40 fps.
[06.04.2004 11:56:40] Expected quality of first pass size: 66,83
[06.04.2004 11:56:40] Running second pass.
[06.04.2004 11:56:40] Writing the following script to D:\Record\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\Jackass The Movie_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\gk_tmp\\JACKASS THE MOVIE AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("D:\\Record\\JACKASS_THE_MOVIE\\Jackass The Movie.avi");
===========================================================
[06.04.2004 13:06:53] Duration was: 1 hour, 10 minutes 12 seconds
[06.04.2004 13:06:53] Speed was: 30,26 fps.
[06.04.2004 13:06:53] Job finished.

[cork]

Hi all,

@len0x : nice to see some possibilities of more "advanced" options in autoGK through the recently appeared ".something" files in the project folder.
But IMHO, the format used is quite inconvenient.
I don't ask a nice GUI to configure all this, but why not using some unique configfile containing something like :
mono=0
cartoon=1
forceitvc=0
customcredits=1
firstcreditframe=12304
creditquant=20
greyscalecredits=0
Much clearer and easier to modify than several obscure files, don't you think ?
And btw, since you added greyscale credits, it would be nice to add another option to force greyscale for the -whole- movie (grayscale movies are rare, but they exist and it must be quite easy to add, no ?).

Many thanks !

[len0x]

Originally posted by cork

But IMHO, the format used is quite inconvenient.
I don't ask a nice GUI to configure all this, but why not using some unique configfile containing something like :


It never intended to be convenient. Its just a hack which requires 1 line of code. As I don't have time to write support for config files it'll stay as it is and will evolve later...

[Stebs]

Yeah, great work len0x! :p

Just finished encoding at exact same settings and codec as above (Xvid 1.0rc4) but with the new 1.14b and the output is perfect, no more red/green ghosting Problem.
So until no other finds a problem, I could see the next version beeing a stable one :D

Thanks again.

[MindlessOath]

just wanted to know what you guys think about this application.
http://simpledivx.click-now.org/
it looks to want to compete with autoGK, or gordenknot for that matter. im assuming autoGK will be much easier for one, as well as smarter, and probably even better performing in quality when the output is done.

just wanted to let ya guys know whats going on out their if ya dont get out to much :P

[FSB-SPY]

Great work and fast updates, len0x!

However, I do have an issue... :P I am doing 2 CD rips (2-CD in size only... I do not want them split into 2 files), and I use the custom size option. And, from what I understood, under custom size it should not be splitting my movies? Yet a custom size of 1400 (default 2-CD size rip) still yields a cd1 and cd2 split at the end. Is this a sharing "snafu" between the custom size + fixed CD size profile choosing?

[Wolfman]

I think you just need to make it 1399 or 1401 and it wont split it. This was asked about 8 pages ago, then again 3 pages ago ;)

[Stebs]

One thing I discovered with 1.14b:

The Sound seems to be more quietly than with previous versions, perhaps this has to do with the new BeSweet 1.5b26?
Someone could check this out?

[NMachiavelli]

I just upgraded to v1.14b from v1.10b, and XVID to RC4 from RC3, and now I'm getting the following error:

Avisynth open failure:

Script error: Invalid arguments to function "autocrop"
([FilePath\FileName.avs], line 22)


Avisynth script:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("E:\Transfers\AutoGK-80%\BSG101-3\gk_tmp\BSG101-3.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 0.911392405063291)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 0.911392405063291 : 0.888888888888889
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

Thanks for assistance.

[toshz]

Originally posted by NMachiavelli
I just upgraded to v1.14b from v1.10b, and XVID to RC4 from RC3, and now I'm getting the following error:

Avisynth open failure:

Script error: Invalid arguments to function "autocrop"
([FilePath\FileName.avs], line 22)


Avisynth script:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("E:\Transfers\AutoGK-80%\BSG101-3\gk_tmp\BSG101-3.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 0.911392405063291)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 0.911392405063291 : 0.888888888888889
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)

Thanks for assistance.


i get the same error and can`t do enything about it. anyone have a fix?

[Carraway]

I'm getting the same error on some, but not all, of my encodes. Seems that if AutoGK analyzes the material, it ends up OK, but if the material is determined to be pure FILM after the DVD2AVI step, I end up with that error.

I'm not 100% certain of this correlation, but so far that seems to be the case. I'm still playing with it.

EDIT: OK, yeah, I think that must be it. Films that aren't analyzed by AutoGK are assumed to be pure FILM and don't need the Telecide() function included, and apparently the lack of Telecide causes autocrop to do weird things. I added Telecide to one of the pure FILM AVS files that gets the error message, and it works (albeit at the bizarre frame rate of 19.181fps). I'm not smart enough to figure out what crucial role Telecide plays in the autocrop function though, so I'll just leave it at that.

Ah, P.S.: Len0x, thanks for fixing the red/green thing. You're swell. :)

[toshz]

@Carraway: you are right, my source is also pure FILM. AutoKG recognized it, but there is a problem when opening the .avs file

[Nikse555]

Hi len0x & Co!

Thx for a very nice program :)
DrDivx does not work well for me - bad macro blocking.

I have just tried an encode with version 1.14b and XviD 1rc4 on a P4HP/WinXP.
Target size was 700mb but final file was 463mb.
Version 1.0 stable worked fine (699mb).
Log:
...
[06-04-2004 22:55:45] Codec: XviD
[06-04-2004 22:55:45] Target size: 700Mb
[06-04-2004 22:55:45] Custom audio settings: VBR MP3 with average bitrate: 112Kbps
[06-04-2004 22:55:45] Started encoding.
[06-04-2004 22:55:45] Demuxing and indexing.
[06-04-2004 23:01:29] Analyzing source.
[06-04-2004 23:01:29] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[06-04-2004 23:12:07] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,06
[06-04-2004 23:12:07] Source is considered to be progressive.
[06-04-2004 23:12:08] Found 219178 frames
[06-04-2004 23:12:08] Encoding audio.
[06-04-2004 23:41:49] Indexing subtitles.
[06-04-2004 23:41:49] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\vobsub.params
===========================================================
D:\Rips\HP 1\vts_01_0.ifo
C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1
1
0
1 cc
CLOSE
===========================================================
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] WinRAR is not found. Switching to internal subtitles.
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] Audio size: 121,738,330 bytes (116.10 Mb)
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] Overhead: 8,767,104 bytes (8.36 Mb)
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] Video size: 603,497,766 bytes (575.54 Mb)
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] Running compressibility test.
[06-04-2004 23:45:00] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
VobSub("C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1.idx")
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[06-04-2004 23:45:01] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\HP1_comptest.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\HP1_comptest.avi");
===========================================================
[06-04-2004 23:56:04] Duration was: 11 minutes 2 seconds
[06-04-2004 23:56:04] Speed was: 16,53 fps.
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Compressibility percentage is: 39,97
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Using softer resizer.
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Chosen resolution is: 512x208 ( AR: 2,46 )
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Predicted comptest value is: 61,49
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Running first pass.
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.45868945868946)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.45868945868946 : 1.42222222222222
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
VobSub("C:\testHP\gk_tmp\HP1.idx")
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[06-04-2004 23:56:05] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\HP1_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\testHP\\HP1.avi");
===========================================================
[07-04-2004 01:57:46] Duration was: 2 hours 1 minute, 40 seconds
[07-04-2004 01:57:46] Speed was: 30,02 fps.
[07-04-2004 01:57:47] Expected quality of first pass size: 69,83
[07-04-2004 01:57:47] Running second pass.
[07-04-2004 01:57:47] Writing the following script to C:\testHP\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\HP1_movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("C:\\testHP\\gk_tmp\\HP1 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\testHP\\HP1.avi");
===========================================================
[07-04-2004 03:56:17] Duration was: 1 hour, 58 minutes 30 seconds
[07-04-2004 03:56:17] Speed was: 30,83 fps.
[07-04-2004 03:56:17] Job finished.


Also, subtitles seem to be placed a bit high (in my opinion) in both 1.14b and 1.0.

What about looking for winrar in registry HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\WinRAR?


Keep up the good work!

[len0x]

Originally posted by Nikse555
I have just tried an encode with version 1.14b and XviD 1rc4 on a P4HP/WinXP.
Target size was 700mb but final file was 463mb.
Version 1.0 stable worked fine (699mb).


FAQ Q6.3

[len0x]

Its a bug indeed, version 1.16 is coming shortly.

[len0x]

FF bug fixed, sorry about that :)

[toshz]

Originally posted by len0x
Its a bug indeed, version 1.16 is coming shortly.


GREAT!
10nx len0x!:)

[cork]

Hi all,

I'm using the credits options and the video newbie I am has difficulties to obtain a frame number (credits start). The only way I've found is to install GordianKnot, create a dvd2avi project and goto the frame in the preview window of GK.
Quite a lot for so few :(

Could somebody tell me a smarter and faster way to get a damn frame number in (splitted) vobs ?

Thanks.

[len0x]

Originally posted by cork
Could somebody tell me a smarter and faster way to get a damn frame number in (splitted) vobs ?


Open all vobs in VDubMod directly...

[cork]

Originally posted by len0x
Open all vobs in VDubMod directly...
Sorry to continue with such stupid questions but yes, i've tried that, and even if I check the box "automatically detect and load additional segments", VDubMod only loads the first vob !?
And after it has loaded it, the "append segment" is greyed.

[len0x]

Originally posted by cork
Sorry to continue with such stupid questions but yes, i've tried that, and even if I check the box "automatically detect and load additional segments", VDubMod only loads the first vob !?


Yeah, look like you have to do a bit of math: open all of the one by one write down frames, sum them up and add frame number from the last vob when credits starts.

P.S. just to remind to everyone who is not satisfied with automation of this process that AutoGK doesn't support credits and this hack with the frame number is merely a gesture to those who can't live without that feature no matter what. The rest can still think of this feature as non-existent :)

[Nikse555]

Ups! Sorry for reporting a known bug (FAQ Q6.3).

Good idea to let the installer in 1.16 check for old xvid versions... so newbies like me can encode right - thx :)

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
Yeah, look like you have to do a bit of math: open all of the one by one write down frames, sum them up and add frame number from the last vob when credits starts.

P.S. just to remind to everyone who is not satisfied with automation of this process that AutoGK doesn't support credits and this hack with the frame number is merely a gesture to those who can't live without that feature no matter what. The rest can still think of this feature as non-existent :)

If I read the previous messages correctly, then the frame required is from the raw source, not the final IVTC'd avi, and AutoGK multiplies the specified frame number by 80% (=23.976/29.976) if the file ends up getting IVTC'd, or uses that frame number if fps stays at 29.976, or if the source is 25.000 fps PAL.

So, there's really only 2 cases that you need to worry about - is it NTSC or PAL material. If I'm correct (len0x please either confirm or correct?), and if you're not all that anal about getting the exact friggin frame, why don't you just use the time code that the credits start at (use the slider in WinDVD, PowerDVD, or any other player of your choice to find that point), and multiply by either 29.976 or 25.000?

Eg, total movie is 1h 36m 22s (which is really irrelevant) and credits start at 1h 30m 15s, then the total seconds equals (15 + 30x60 + 1x60X60) = 5415s.

Now for PAL, credits start frame = 5415 x 25.000 = 135375

and for NTSC, credits start frame = 5415 x 29.976 = 162320

Is that not simple and close enough?

[Gazza]

Hi Len0x,

The autodetect feature for xvid in the installer might have a slight bug. I had installed xvid rc4 prior to running that latest autogk update and the installer detected this version of xvid as an older version and skipped the installation of xvid. I manually uninstalled xvid but the autogk installer still thinks I have an old version in the system.

Nice proggie.

Gazza

[Spiders]

Hi Len0x!
Do you speak Russian?
Êîðî÷å, òàêàÿ ïðîáëåìà: â ïðîãðàììå åñòü ôóíêöèÿ àâòîìàòè÷åñêîãî îòêëþ÷åíèÿ êîìïüþòåðà ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ ðàáîòû. Òàê âîò êîãäà ÿ åå âêëþ÷àþ è êîãäà ðàáîòà çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ, òî êîìïüþòåð íå âûêëþ÷àåòñÿ, à ïåðåçàãðóæàåòñÿ.  ÷åì ïðîáëåìà?

[len0x]

Originally posted by Gazza
The autodetect feature for xvid in the installer might have a slight bug. I had installed xvid rc4 prior to running that latest autogk update and the installer detected this version of xvid as an older version and skipped the installation of xvid. I manually uninstalled xvid but the autogk installer still thinks I have an old version in the system.


Because actually you do have an old version :)
If installer finds that xvid.dll is present in the system directory - then it warns you. New xvid installation only contains xvidvfw.dll and xvidcore.dll. If you absolutely sure that new xvid is working ok for you (although old one was definitely not uninstalled properly) then just delete xvid.dll.

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
If I read the previous messages correctly, then the frame required is from the raw source, not the final IVTC'd avi, and AutoGK multiplies the specified frame number by 80% (=23.976/29.976) if the file ends up getting IVTC'd, or uses that frame number if fps stays at 29.976, or if the source is 25.000 fps PAL.


correct

Originally posted by therealjoeblow

So, there's really only 2 cases that you need to worry about - is it NTSC or PAL material. If I'm correct (len0x please either confirm or correct?), and if you're not all that anal about getting the exact friggin frame, why don't you just use the time code that the credits start at (use the slider in WinDVD, PowerDVD, or any other player of your choice to find that point), and multiply by either 29.976 or 25.000?

Is that not simple and close enough?

Actually it is - good hint !

[yotsuya-san]

Hi all. I think there's something wrong with Xvid 1.0 RC4 and/or AutoGk and their "interaction". I've done a compressibility test of Matrix Revolution with AutoGk 1.14b (1.16 han not yet come) with this settings:

Audio Track: No Track
Custom size: 615 Mb
Advanced settings: Minimum width=512
Codec=Xvid

Installed codec is Xvid 1.0 RC4 included in AutoGK update.

The result (sorry, I don't have the log) was 512x208 resolution with a predicted comp test of 61,51. So I expected that encoding that film with a 512x208 and a target quality of 61% I would have had an avi of ABOUT 615 Mb or a little less. Well, the avi is 661 Mb, about 50 megs more.
Since I didn't have this problem with DivX (always a little -sometimes more than a little- less than the predicted size of comp test), I ask myself if it's not a problem related to Xvid.

By the way, the comp test trough AutoGK of the same movie with DivX gave me a predicted comp test, at the same resolution, of 54,41, but I haven't encoded the film yet 'cause I'm quite sure the resulting avi will be of low quality.

I have another question: it seems that AutoGK, even at at 512xXXX resolution and at high quantizers (target quality at about 50-60%) use, in target quality mode, a Lanczos Resize, while at the same resolution in 2 pass mode it uses Bicubic filter. Am I right? Is not Lanczos too much for that low resolution and that low bitrate?

Hope I haven't offended any of you saying wrong things.

Bye.

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

The result (sorry, I don't have the log) was 512x208 resolution with a predicted comp test of 61,51. So I expected that encoding that film with a 512x208 and a target quality of 61% I would have had an avi of ABOUT 615 Mb or a little less. Well, the avi is 661 Mb, about 50 megs more.


Predicted % doesn't mean that much in some cases. What was expected REAL percentage after first pass? Comp test for XviD is known to be up to 10% wrong in worst cases. So for 600Mb error can be upto 60Mb.
Nothing unusual here. So you really need the log for the first pass percentage value...

[len0x]

Btw, I accidently disabled CPUID code for detecting MMX-capabale CPUs in latest version (1.16). I wonder if that has any impact on HT crashes lots of ppl were having. Still crashes ?

[Spiders]

Len0x
beside me question: there is function Shutdown when done in program. So here is when I its include and when functioning ends, that computer is not switched off, but is rebooted. What problem? We Beg pardon for my english... :)

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
Predicted % doesn't mean that much in some cases. What was expected REAL percentage after first pass?

First pass? I did not a two-pass encoding, I stopped AutoGK after the comp test and I re-started it with 61% as quality target. Do I miss something? :scared:

Comp test for XviD is known to be up to 10% wrong in worst cases. So for 600Mb error can be upto 60Mb.
Nothing unusual here.

Sorry, I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification.
By the way, now I'm encoding with DivX and a quality target of 54%, just for curiosity. If it will be about 615 Mb, I think the only way is to use it for my target quality - target size encodings...

What about Lanczos filter? I hope you didn't miss it ;)

Thanks a lot.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Spiders
Len0x
beside me question: there is function Shutdown when done in program. So here is when I its include and when functioning ends, that computer is not switched off, but is rebooted. What problem? We Beg pardon for my english... :)

which OS are you using ?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
First pass? I did not a two-pass encoding, I stopped AutoGK after the comp test and I re-started it with 61% as quality target. Do I miss something? :scared:


You should *not* do that - AutoGK uses the comptest simply to make an intelligent decision about: (1) whether the first guess for autosize was a good one; (2) whether the sharp resize algorithm is the best to use, or whether the softer resizer should be used; and (3) whether the sharp or softer quantizer matrix should be used. The predicted quality or compressibility is *NOT* the final value that will be used to reach the desired size, it is a simple estimation of how well you can compress the small portion of what is sampled during the comptest, as I said, in an effort to optimally set the rest of the encoding parameters.

If you stop after the comptest and do a 1 pass encode with that setting, the best you can hope to achieve is come up with an encode that has 61% of quality (or whatever you specify) - target size will *NOT* be used, and the size will be whatever it comes out to.

The correct way to use AutoGK to hit a specific file size is to set that in the preference, start the encode, and let all of the passes (comptest, first pass, second pass) complete - AutoGK and XviD will adjust the encoding parameters and redistribute the compression bits throughout the 2nd pass based on the results of the complete first pass, and then your target size should match within about 1mb.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
If you stop after the comptest and do a 1 pass encode with that setting, the best you can hope to achieve is come up with an encode that has 61% of quality (or whatever you specify) - target size will *NOT* be used, and the size will be whatever it comes out to.

I didn't say anywhere I did such a horrible thing :D

I know what comp test is, I've used it many many times, I know the (simple) formula behind it, and if you look at its creator's site, jonny, you will find the Enc program which also performs a size prediction based on the comp test. It is, more or less, the same thing I do through AutoGK making a comp test and using the value for a single pass quality based encoding.
The only differences I know are that I use the comp test value PREDICTED by AutoGK and that AutoGK always uses, in target quality mode, Lanczos resize filter, while using 2 pass it uses different resize filters.

The correct way to use AutoGK to hit a specific file size is to set that in the preference, start the encode, and let all of the passes (comptest, first pass, second pass) complete - AutoGK and XviD will adjust the encoding parameters and redistribute the compression bits throughout the 2nd pass based on the results of the complete first pass, and then your target size should match within about 1mb.

I know this too, but that's not what I want to do, of course! I don't like two pass mode divx results especially with low bitrates, I hate pixelization in high motion scenes, I prefer a more uniform quality that ONLY 1 pass quality based mode can give.
Yes, I also know that I'm not a newbie and AutoGK is not made for me. But I am quite curious if I or others can use it to do quality based encodings with an eye on file dimension. If I can't use that way, I'll come back to his big brother, without desturbing anyone or ranting about this or that feature, this I tell for sure! ;)

Bye.

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
II know this too, but that's not what I want to do, of course! I don't like two pass mode divx results especially with low bitrates, I hate pixelization in high motion scenes, I prefer a more uniform quality that ONLY 1 pass quality based mode can give.
Yes, I also know that I'm not a newbie and AutoGK is not made for me. But I am quite curious if I or others can use it to do quality based encodings with an eye on file dimension.

1 pass encoding with comp test in front was discussed at some point when AutoGK just started. Conclusion was: you can really confident predict target file size in 100% cases based on just one comp test. DivX is more easy for this purpose, XviD is more difficult as I said ealier. But in general you might be in luck with some movies, may not be with others (like you experienced yourself). And there is nothing more you can do in GK either...

Regarding resize in quality mode - it's always Lanczos. Make no mistake: the quality with sharp or soft resizer is always the same but size is not! Maximum quality is the quality of codec encode, it doesn't include avs transformations. So with sharp resize you get larger maximum size then with soft one. But I see no point in reducing maximum quality artificially with resizer. (so if you'd like smaller size you better reduce quality but not resizer - in any case that mode was intended mostly for non-resize encodes at all, i.e. with width 704)

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
Regarding resize in quality mode - it's always Lanczos. Make no mistake: the quality with sharp or soft resizer is always the same but size is not! Maximum quality is the quality of codec encode, it doesn't include avs transformations. So with sharp resize you get larger maximum size then with soft one. But I see no point in reducing maximum quality artificially with resizer. (so if you'd like smaller size you better reduce quality but not resizer - in any case that mode was intended mostly for non-resize encodes at all, i.e. with width 704)

Yes, I think I understood your point. Target quality has quality in mind, not filesize, so using always Lanczos is like saying: "Hey, use all the space you need". At that quality and at that resolution.

I think I should come back to GordianKnot to do what I want to do. I would introduce, through AutoGK, two more approximations to 5% comp test: one is that it does a comp test at an higher resolution, the other is that predicted comp tesp is calculated by using a different resize filter than the one which will be used (is this point right?).
GordianKnot, making a comp test at the resolution and with the filter I will use later, should avoid those.
I have to say that this "manual" procedure has ALWAYS given to me me "RIGHT" results, with quite little undersized divx avis (to be sure I always rounded % to the first lower integer number).

Thanks for clarifications, Len0x.

[Spiders]

Originally posted by len0x
which OS are you using ?

Windows 98... :)

[SonGokuDBZ]

@Lenox:
I know, some day your head must explode when you hear the word "feature request". That's why I only want to make a small suggestion: What about a ".waite"-file which causes AutoGK to wait before the first-pass starts with a message like "Press OK to continue with the first pass!". Advance user could use the time to edit the avs-skript. It's up to you to decide it and if you think this feature isn't necessary its OK.

Thanks anyway, your program is great!

SonGokuDBZ

[wertherman]

Yey!!! I think this thread is now the most replied to thread on doom9's forums (surpassing the other ever growing thread for media player classic with 1867 replies to 1763, and 489812 views to only 143661)...

Yay!

[Pyniok]

Originally posted by len0x
red/green problems should go for good (hopefully).
New icon and logo for AutoGK - sort of rebranding :)

First of all: great tool, it's good, gooood.

After switching to 1.14 I found out the sound level in final avi is much lower than it used to be. Much lower, few times lower. So I switched 1.5b26 besweet.exe with 1.5b23 one and gave it another try, with exactly same settings. It was all good again, properly loud.

Both besweet logs are the same.

Am I missing anything? Thanks.

[Toge]

I've just switched BeSweet 1.15b26 with 1.4 stable.

will it still work ok?

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by Pyniok
Both besweet logs are the same.post them both.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Spiders
Windows 98... :)

Does this happen with regular GK as well ?

[len0x]

I changed interleaving settings for AC3 which result in even less overhead, but its estimation had to be changed as well, so now files will be 100-200K per CD bigger that previous versions (hopefully not more that that).

Also ppl having problems with CTRL-F10 should not have them anymore.

Last but not least: now that XviD 1.0 is almost final I adjusted resizing values for RC 4.

[QNX]

i have nice situation here.. except HT of course :D

i'm trying to encode th LinkinPark DVD
Video info: PAL - 720x576 - 4:3 Normal - 25fps - 1:11:01.800

after 2 vdub runs and besweet starting copress. test and on 2% i'm getting error in vdubmod:

Crash reason: Access Violation

Crash context:
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'xvidcore'...

...while compressing frame 612 from 04da0000 to 0561000c (VideoSequenceCompressor.cpp:375)...

...while running thread "Processing" (thread.cpp:105).

etc..

i've tried 1.16 and 1.17 now - same result
with xvid rc4 :D

[miljbee]

Hi Len0x,

I have 1 problems to report to you concerning AutoGK :

I have several computers on a lan. I use one of them as a file server. All computers are WinXP.
Yesterday, I have done the following :
Launching AutoGK on Computer A and B and saving the output avis on the same directory of the file server. The result was an error msg concerning a temp file of autoGK that was already in use. It's because the Temp Folder is created in the destination directory. I Think it may be better if it was created in the AutoGK Directory isn't it ?
Or if you prefer, you could use time/date in the name of the temp folder.

Once again thanks for your work !

[len0x]

Originally posted by miljbee
I Think it may be better if it was created in the AutoGK Directory isn't it ?
Or if you prefer, you could use time/date in the name of the temp folder.


Well, it an intended feature. I personally select just one output dir and temp dir gets overwritten for every consequent job (I make long queue usually and have space restrictions, that is why I don't like to keep output temp dir).

[len0x]

Originally posted by QNX

after 2 vdub runs and besweet starting copress. test and on 2% i'm getting error in vdubmod:

Crash reason: Access Violation


Does this happen on the same place everytime ?

One of three things:
- corrupted vobs (try reripping)
- overclocking
- bug in xvid (then reporting in XviD forum will probably help)

[miljbee]

I am not sure to understand what you wrote, and perhaps my problem was so badly written that you misunderstand it :
Computer A and B are writing to the same temp folder on the same computer at the same time ... so it can not work since the tmp files are used at the same time for different jobs.

[Pyniok]

Originally posted by DSPguru
post them both.

I tried again (still lower sound level with 5b26), but logs are bit different:

5b26
-----------------------
BeSweet v1.5b26 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 04/13/04 , 22:33:33.

D:\PROGRA~1\VCD\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B26 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.ac3 -output E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B26 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.mp3 -logfile E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B26 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h -alt-preset 128 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B26 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B26 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | 'abr 128' preset is used
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:05:50:496] Gain of 18.0dB had been asserted to file.
[00:05:50:496] Conversion Completed !
[00:01:49:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 04/13/04 , 22:35:22.

------------------------------

and 5b23:

------------------------------
BeSweet v1.5b23 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 04/13/04 , 23:14:45.

D:\PROGRA~1\VCD\AutoGK\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B23 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.ac3 -output E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B23 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.mp3 -logfile E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B23 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.log ) -ota( -G 1 ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -lame( -h -alt-preset 128 ) -profile( AutoGK )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B23 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: E:\stanger\gk_tmp\5B23 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -296ms.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | PostGain normalize to : 1.00
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 448kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | 'abr 128' preset is used
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:05:50:496] Gain of 16.5dB had been asserted to file.
[00:05:50:496] Conversion Completed !
[00:05:50:496] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 129kbps
[00:01:49:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 04/13/04 , 23:16:34.
--------------------

[len0x]

Originally posted by miljbee
I am not sure to understand what you wrote, and perhaps my problem was so badly written that you misunderstand it :
Computer A and B are writing to the same temp folder on the same computer at the same time ... so it can not work since the tmp files are used at the same time for different jobs.

No, I perfectly understood it, but I replied why I want to keep the current behavior. :) (because I like the same directory being deleted by every consequent job, otherwize I would end up with lots of garbage in the end...)

[len0x]

...on AutoGK website (my signature is updated finally). Little program is written by therealjoeblow (big thanks ot him) to help you creating all those hidden files for AutoGK input dir.

[Stebs]

Ah, nice little Proggie,well done therealjoeblow!

@therealjoeblow
Just 2 (very minor) things I found:

For some reason the icon of "Hidden Options.exe" is the same Text-Icon as the "Hidden Options.txt", making it harder to find quickly. (I am using WinXP Pro)

Then in the very nice Frame Calculator it would be nicer to have Hrs, Min and Sec disappear when you click into the fields instead to beeing forced to delete them. Or, if not possible with VB6, write Hrs, Min and Sec above the fields...
Yeah, ;) warned you those where very minor things :D

@len0x
Any news/clues with different sound levels related to version of BeSweet?

[DSPguru]

@Pyniok
try replacing -ota( -G 1 ) with -ota( -hybridgain )


@lenox
i would advise to use this switch as default .

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Stebs
Ah, nice little Proggie,well done therealjoeblow!

@therealjoeblow
Just 2 (very minor) things I found:

For some reason the icon of "Hidden Options.exe" is the same Text-Icon as the "Hidden Options.txt", making it harder to find quickly. (I am using WinXP Pro)

Then in the very nice Frame Calculator it would be nicer to have Hrs, Min and Sec disappear when you click into the fields instead to beeing forced to delete them. Or, if not possible with VB6, write Hrs, Min and Sec above the fields...
Yeah, ;) warned you those where very minor things :D



Thanks for the input - I updated it, it's on it's way to len0x, probably a day or so before he uploads it to the main server:

v-0.5 (April 14, 2004)
----------------------
-Changed program icon by request.
-Improved handling of 'prompt-text' when entering textboxes in
calculator (now when you click in the box the prompt-text gets
auto-selected, and when you start typing, the prompt-text clears,
getting replaced by your entry.
-Added tooltips as additional entry-prompts for textboxes.
-Added some critical Error Trapping:
-You can only enter numerical input into the textboxes.
-You can only enter 1 digit in Hours, and up to 2 digits in
each of Minutes and Seconds.
-Message is displayed, requiring correction, if Credit Quality
is out of the 20-100% range.

[pixolex]

Originally posted by len0x
...on AutoGK website (my signature is updated finally). Little program is written by therealjoeblow (big thanks ot him) to help you creating all those hidden files for AutoGK input dir.

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /HiddenOptions_v-0.4.rar on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at len0x.btothec.com Port 80

:(

[len0x]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Thanks for the input - I updated it, it's on it's way to len0x, probably a day or so before he uploads it to the main server:


It's up there now.

2All Do not try to link or use download managers (or at least those which don't keep referrer) for downloads at AutoGK.net - it won't work :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by DSPguru

@lenox
i would advise to use this switch as default .

I used that one before, then someone suggested -G 1 and I switched. But any reasons it should work differently in b26 ?


P.S. Do you still have b25 around for downloading?

[DSPguru]

i'm really too tired to re-explain all the gain modules in BeSweet :(. this had been discussed zillions of times in the 'audio encoding' forum, and anyone who disagree with my recommendation is being asked to either :
1) read it all and write a persuading, well-argued post, explaining why i should change my recommandation.
2) use any BeSweet switches at home with his own computer.


to summarize : imho, hybridgain is the best choice (reasonable level of pregain in accordance to dynamic range compression, reasonable level of postgain, reasonable usage of dialog normalization and reasonable scale level for lame.
reasonable normalization at reasonable speed)


old b25 and a new, fixed, b26, had been uploaded.

[Taurus]

i'm really too tired to re-explain all the gain modules in BeSweet
Oops,there's someone really disappointed!
I can fully understand DSPguru's ''excitement''.
As there is so much misunderstanding on all the switches used in BeSweet I would like to make a few things clear: If you don't care for some artifacts, use normalize to 100% & dynamic compression set to ''normal'' on azid. Only then a really --loud-- output to the ''lame'' encoder is achieved.
Or use the ''HybridGain'' switch, as mentioned by DSPguru.
Or try the switches together.....
Well one thing is strange: Why have the problems arised on last beta?
I can't remember this has happened before on older releases.
But maybe I did'nt noticed it, because by using normalization in Mediaplayer Classic it was not so obviously.

Taurus

[nightrhyme]

I'm new to dvd-ripping and I want to thank you for this easy to use program.
It's really easy for a newb like me and produces excellent results :p

I have a couple of questions thoug:

1. Is there any way of making AutoGK use all my memory when encoding ? I have 1024MB and I see that AutoGK only uses about 500.
Only setting I could find was the performance tab in VdubMod which I maxed out.

2. About resolution. I tried some different resolution settings.
Which setting produces best result ? Forcing 720, 640 or auto width ?
Or does that depend on other settings. I usually make 2 cd Xvid, Audio mp3 192Kbps.

3. Any news on making AutoGK run on Hyper Threaded Cpu's. I usually disable Hyper Threading in bios before running AutoGK.

4. And last. How do I know which bitrate the movie was encoded in ?

Sorry for the Newb questions. Hope you will answer them anyway :rolleyes:

Thanx in advance

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by nightrhyme

4. And last. How do I know which bitrate the movie was encoded in ?


Get Gspot from Doom's download section...

@len0x:
I've tested AutoGK on various shorter sequenzes, just about 2 minutes long. FOr example i've testet encoding the hidden Credits from Star Wars Episode I and II. This sequenzes feature Text in the black borders/bars. AutoGK using AutoCrop crops that bars, so text is gone. Maybe you can also add a little hidden option like .mono for .nocrop .

[miljbee]

GizmoDerMokwai wrote :
Maybe you can also add a little hidden option like .mono for .nocrop


... or a .crop one. This file could contain Left, right, Up and down values for croping the original movie ... (basically i only need left and right, but if it could meet the needs of others ...)

[manono]

Hi nightrhyme and welcome-

1. The encoding is done by VDubMod, and it takes as much as it needs. I'm surprised that you got it to use as much as you did, as it usually uses about half that on my computer.

2. If you make 2 CD encodings, then you certainly don't want to force a very high resolution. With less compressible or very long movies it's very easy to get a bad looking movie with a high resolution. Until you have more experience, I'd recommend using the Auto Setting. But there's no harm in experimenting to see what looks good to you. But pay attention to the compression test results when you experiment.

3. If the information you have is from the guide, then it's out of date. You might try it with Hyperthreading enabled. If it doesn't work, you can try it in Win98 compatibility mode, as explained in the guide. And at the same time, you might run some tests to see if the encoding is really faster with hyperthreading enabled.

4. As Gizmo said, get GSpot (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/gspot221.exe).

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by Taurus
Well one thing is strange: Why have the problems arised on last beta?the postgain module had been disabled by mistake in that build, and so the last stage of gain assertion didn't do anything. (if you'll pay attention, you could see that the postgain asseration takes no-time in this build, instead of the reasonable time it takes usually).
anyhow, the postgain engine had been re-enabled, and you can download a fixed version from my webage, or you could wait until it being integrated in (auto)gk.

[AlmanNewfred]

Thanks for this little tool. But the frame calculator seems to be missing an option for film frame rate (23.976 fps).

[Taurus]

Thanks for acting so fast!!!

(if you'll pay attention, you could see that the postgain asseration takes no-time in this build, instead of the reasonable time it takes usually).

I was just wondering how fast BeSweet can go....
Above statement makes this clear.
Thanks again, for this jewel in audioencoding.
So now there is no need to go back to an older version of BeSweet.
The updated one should work fine now.
I will give it a try, and report what's happening.

Cheers

Taurus

[Xanatos]

Hello,

I've encoded a movie with v1.17 beta (1.16 is the same).
If the movie is encoded with CBR 160 MP3 it plays choppy in MS Media Player 6.4.09.1128 and not at all in Media Player Classic 6.481.
The same move with VBR works perfectly (all other options unchanged)
Videocodec is xvid 1.0 rc4

greetings
Xanatos

[((( atom )))]

i have a little issue to report here, that might either be autogk related or something wierd in my system:

system is:
windows 2000 sp4, p4 with ht on
the system is freshly installed, no other software on it..

happens on:
all autogk-versions, full versions and updates

symptom: after installing autogk i can run it. ONCE! - it won't start again until i rerun the installer. sometimes, though i even have to rerun the installer twice in order for gk to start.
if it refuses to start, i get: autogk has experienced a problem and needs to close (translated).

any ideas?

[Taurus]

Audio volume is back to normal on mp3 encoding!

DSPguru acted real fast: After copying his updated version of BeSweet, downloaded from his webpage, to the directory BeSweet in the AutoGk Folder, everything is back to normal.
Proved it with a small rip, done by AutoGk.
So there should be no need to downgrade to an older version of BeSweet.

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the work of the devs and mods in this forum.

Cheers

Taurus

[Hobojobo]

@therealjoeblow

Would it be possible to add a hidden .crop feature, like miljbee proposed.
I would use GK :D to auto/manual crop the movie. (I like to see the result straight away.)
Then I could put the numbers into the .crop file and I am done.
That would be perfect.

I would like to crop the tv shows to 640x480, 4:3 ratio.
It does not matter losing a few pixel on the borders.

[((( atom )))]

@lenox

when i was a little interrupted while setting up my last pile of movies, i couldn't recall if i had set specific settings right, wich i wanted for specific movies and i ended up deleting the entire queue and did it again.

it would be very practical if one could doubleclick on any job in the queue and have the setting that were used loaded.

this might also be usefull, if i wanted to "copy" settings i used for a specific movie to another job. for example i might want to use different audio settings since i have some old movies, wich wouldn't be worth being kept in ac3, that was my case..

what do you think of it?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by AlmanNewfred
Thanks for this little tool. But the frame calculator seems to be missing an option for film frame rate (23.976 fps).

Did you read the discussion in the readme.txt file??? Please do.

[AlmanNewfred]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Did you read the discussion in the readme.txt file??? Please do.

Yes I did. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of frame rates and the conversions AGK does, but I do know that using 30 fps for the frame calculation gives does not seem to give correct results for a pure film source, i.e. the credit frame ends up greater than the total number of frames AGK finds after demuxing. Using 24 fps does seem to give the right frame - it matches what you get from loading the vobs into vDubMod, and the final encode looks right.

[len0x]

Originally posted by AlmanNewfred
Yes I did. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of frame rates and the conversions AGK does, but I do know that using 30 fps for the frame calculation gives does not seem to give correct results for a pure film source, i.e. the credit frame ends up greater than the total number of frames AGK finds after demuxing. Using 24 fps does seem to give the right frame - it matches what you get from loading the vobs into vDubMod, and the final encode looks right.

please post all numeric info to support your claim.
(including AutoGK log)

[Hesse]

Originally posted by AlmanNewfred
Yes I did. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of frame rates and the conversions AGK does, but I do know that using 30 fps for the frame calculation gives does not seem to give correct results for a pure film source, i.e. the credit frame ends up greater than the total number of frames AGK finds after demuxing. Using 24 fps does seem to give the right frame - it matches what you get from loading the vobs into vDubMod, and the final encode looks right.

I can confirm this behavior. If the source is detected as pure film, I must enter the FF frame number to get a correct credits encode. Otherwise, I enter the nonFF frame number.

Jesse

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hesse
I can confirm this behavior. If the source is detected as pure film, I must enter the FF frame number to get a correct credits encode. Otherwise, I enter the nonFF frame number.


And I can confirm that its a bug :) I forgot as usual about pure Film sources which are represented differently in AutoGK. already fixed for the next version.

[Hesse]

Originally posted by len0x
And I can confirm that its a bug :) I forgot as usual about pure Film sources which are represented differently in AutoGK. already fixed for the next version.

Wow Lenox, you are fast! Thanks for the fix. So we should enter the nonFF 29.997 Frame number always in the next version?

Jesse

[len0x]

Originally posted by Hesse
Wow Lenox, you are fast! Thanks for the fix. So we should enter the nonFF 29.997 Frame number always in the next version?


yes, next version is up btw :)

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by len0x
yes, next version is up btw :) great :D.
is 'hybridgain' back to default then ?

[Firewave]

I used AutoGK the first time today. It works fine, better than any other tools I tried. And at the moment there are just two little things, that are on my mind:

First it's a little "freature" request: Could you ass the length of the input to the "Video Info"? It could be quite helpful, if you aren't sure about the length.

Send thing is a question to everybody: What's the best setting, if you want to encode a short movie? Like having a around 70 megs result for a 7 minute movie. Is it the "Custom size" option?

So long
Firewave

[gircobain]

Originally posted by Firewave
Send thing is a question to everybody: What's the best setting, if you want to encode a short movie? Like having a around 70 megs result for a 7 minute movie. Is it the "Custom size" option?
If target size is not a concern, I believe the best option is to encode by quality. Most people are satisfied with a target quality within 75-85%. On the other hand, if quality is the main concern, you are better off choosing maximum quality under predefined size.

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

First I wanna thank for your AutoGK which finally support the world's
finest codec (Xvid 1.0 beta). :)

Second, the hidden options specially the ".credits".
it will be better if we use the timestamp for the credit start
point instead of frame. use the timestamp will avoid the miss
understanding for FF and nonFF frame #.

suggestion:
---
1:23:23
20
FALSE
---

Thank you.

[manono]

Firewave-

There are a couple of ways to get the movie length already. One is from DVD Decrypter when you decrypt the vobs (assuming you're in IFO Mode, as you should be). And the other is by opening the .d2v in GKnot, after AutoGK makes it.

And if you want to make the short video for a specific size, then, yes, use a custom size. But pay attention to the compress test results and the chosen final resolution, as it's often hard to guess the size in advance, and get a good result. Or follow gircobain's suggestions.

[Taurus]

@ DSPguru

is 'hybridgain' back to default then ?

As I can see from the log text, hybridgain is not used.
Instead postgain is used, as have been done in the (all?)older AutoGk betas. (-g1)

Cheers

Taurus

[manono]

OK, I'll take the rap for the Postgain setting. Back in the early days of AutoGK, people were complaining about soft volume. It was a concern of mine also, as I wasn't happy with the volume levels when using the default settings of the BeSweet GUI. I went searching in the Audio Forum for a way to remedy it, and came up with the suggestion to use Postgain, instead of Hybridgain. I tried it out and found that the result was, indeed, louder with Postgain applied. So I mentioned it to len0x. If for some reason that I can't understand with my limited knowledge of audio encoding Hybridgain is better, then, of course, I bow to DSPguru's expertise in the matter.

[madprofessor]

i find autogk awesome and the development and support is almost unbelievable.

one question though, i select divx for codec generally. is autogk non-related to the codec ? or is it more optimized for one of the two codecs (divx/xvid). if so i would like to use the one that you work more onto . i hope this is not a lame question :rolleyes:
i like xvid for its non-commercial touch but divx will always be the oldest ;)



ps: i hate it when an actor wears vivid red clothes in a movie ... pixels all over the place :angry: :D :D :D

[len0x]

Originally posted by Firewave
First it's a little "freature" request: Could you ass the length of the input to the "Video Info"? It could be quite helpful, if you aren't sure about the length.


unfortunately there is no way for doing that. Stream info file doesn't contain that info...

[len0x]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
symptom: after installing autogk i can run it. ONCE! - it won't start again until i rerun the installer. sometimes, though i even have to rerun the installer twice in order for gk to start.
if it refuses to start, i get: autogk has experienced a problem and needs to close (translated).


HT issue ?

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@Second, the hidden options specially the ".credits".
it will be better if we use the timestamp for the credit start
point instead of frame. use the timestamp will avoid the miss
understanding for FF and nonFF frame #.


Hidden Option tool done by therealjoeblow already does that.

[Tuning]

Thinking no one else has requested before....:p

A Small Feature Request: Direct muxing of DTS audio.
Especially useful for HDD saving and multi CD rips.
Thanks.:)

[((( atom )))]

Originally posted by len0x
HT issue ? no, happens with and without ht enabled.

[((( atom )))]

i wanted to view the printable version of this thread on one page in order to search for something easier and i got:

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2188533 bytes) in /home/httpd/docs/vbb/admin/functions.php on line 582

is this thread to long? ;)

[Spiders]

Originally posted by len0x
Does this happen with regular GK as well ?

I do not know since use only Auto GK. À on idea computer must be switched off? The Program was tested on Windows 98?

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by manono
OK, I'll take the rap for the Postgain setting. Back in the early days of AutoGK, people were complaining about soft volume. It was a concern of mine also, as I wasn't happy with the volume levels when using the default settings of the BeSweet GUI. I went searching in the Audio Forum for a way to remedy it, and came up with the suggestion to use Postgain, instead of Hybridgain. I tried it out and found that the result was, indeed, louder with Postgain applied. So I mentioned it to len0x. If for some reason that I can't understand with my limited knowledge of audio encoding Hybridgain is better, then, of course, I bow to DSPguru's expertise in the matter. hybridgain iZ the way to go, and should be the default mode.
if someone is into extreme normalization, he can change his personal default mode to using -azid( --maximize ).
postgain of 18db [like you could see in the logfile of "-ota( -G 1 )"] will never make sense to me.

[len0x]

Originally posted by DSPguru
hybridgain iZ the way to go, and should be the default mode.
if someone is into extreme normalization, he can change his personal default mode to using -azid( --maximize ).
postgain of 18db [like you could see in the logfile of "-ota( -G 1 )"] will never make sense to me.

OK, I'll change that to hybridgain then and after I have a config everyone can customize that (the main problem now in AutoGK that if you're not satisfied with audio level there is nothing you can do about it apart from encoding it yourself and remuxing)

P.S. Personally I have no opinion on the subject as very rarely do mp3 myself.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

hi, dunno know if it's really a bug, but autogk saying chosen resolution ***x304, but final avi is ***x288...


===========================================================
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Duration was: 12 minutes 35 seconds
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Speed was: 8,07 fps.
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Compressibility percentage is: 20,38
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Using softer resizer.
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Using softer resizer.
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Chosen resolution is: 512x304 ( AR: 1,68 )
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Predicted comptest value is: 32,35
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Running first pass.
[21.04.2004 08:45:59] Writing the following script to D:\tmp\gk_tmp\asterixinamerika_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\PROGRA~1\DVDRIP~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("D:\tmp\gk_tmp\asterixinamerika.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 1.09401709401709)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 1.09401709401709 : 1.06666666666667
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 512
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=getOrder(movie),sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)


Gspot info:
XviD, 876 kb/s, 512x288 (1.78:1) [=16:9]

just wanna to drop you this info...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
hi, dunno know if it's really a bug, but autogk saying chosen resolution ***x304, but final avi is ***x288...


Nice catch. Unfortunately there is nothing I can do - aspect ratio displayed is the same as comp test AR. Since autocrop crops automatically during encode its only a guess since autocrop does everything inside. So in some rare cases you would see this...

[GizmoDerMokwai]

hehe, ok, just wanted to give you that info... :)

[hujer]

lenox > is there public cvs server for autogk ? i would like to fix the HT bug coz its annoying me very much, when i set compatibility with windows 98 for autogk it runs virtual dub in some weird mode
with one cpu affinity and makes my whole computer superslow, i have to run into taskmanager and change affinity for the vdub process everytime, if there isnt public cvs please contact me on hujer@users.sf.net and let me know if i can help you fixing this crash somehow, its really pissing me off, thanx for autogk btw :)

[ookzDVD]

Originally posted by len0x
Hidden Option tool done by therealjoeblow already does that.

@len0x,
I mean in your .credits directly use the timestamp instead of the frame #. So the conversion is done by your internal code.

thank you.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,
I mean in your .credits directly use the timestamp instead of the frame #. So the conversion is done by your internal code.


well, then we would need reverse conversion if a person knows only frame number (like many ppl actually do including me - they have no problems getting frame number from regular GK). So it doesn't really matter to me if we have tools that do the job and something is already done then I don't see a reason of re-writing it :)

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
well, then we would need reverse conversion if a person knows only frame number (like many ppl actually do including me - they have no problems getting frame number from regular GK). So it doesn't really matter to me if we have tools that do the job and something is already done then I don't see a reason of re-writing it :)

@len0x,

I sent you a new version which can read CLI parameters - you might be able to add a button to AutoGK now to launch the "Hidden Options.exe" after the user selects the input directory, that would probably simplify things a bit for many users.

v-0.6 (April 22, 2004)
----------------------
-Added CLI (Command Line Interface) - 'Hidden Options.exe' can now
accept the target path as a command line parameter. I coded it
to be fairly forgiving, you can use one of the following formats:

"z:\hidden options.exe" x:\path name
"z:\hidden options.exe" -x:\path name
"z:\hidden options.exe" /x:\path name

You can enter the path in all caps, all lower case, or a mix, it
doesn't matter. You can also either add or omit the trailing "\"

Also checks if the drive and path exists, and provides error
messages if not.

-Added error checking when selecting an empty CD or Floppy Drive
from the drivelist pick-box - program would crash with runtime
error before (not like you're going to actually work from one of
those sources, but you might pick it by accident).

[nightrhyme]

Originally posted by hujer
lenox > is there public cvs server for autogk ? i would like to fix the HT bug coz its annoying me very much, when i set compatibility with windows 98 for autogk it runs virtual dub in some weird mode
with one cpu affinity and makes my whole computer superslow, i have to run into taskmanager and change affinity for the vdub process everytime, if there isnt public cvs please contact me on hujer@users.sf.net and let me know if i can help you fixing this crash somehow, its really pissing me off, thanx for autogk btw :)

Would really be nice if you could help make AutoGK run on HT cpu's.
That bug really irritates me too.
I usually disable Hyper Threading in bios before encoding with GK :(

[hujer]

Originally posted by nightrhyme
Would really be nice if you could help make AutoGK run on HT cpu's.
That bug really irritates me too.
I usually disable Hyper Threading in bios before encoding with GK :(

well when i disable HT in bios my windows doesnt boot :), anyway i would really like to fix it, but i need the src first

[rotvel]

It would be nice to have a priority setting for AutoGK. Similar to the one in DVD2SVCD ("Process priority for all used programs" -> Idle|Normal|High).

Mainly for running AutoGK and still be able to use the PC for other stuff (using the "idle" setting).

Regards /max

[len0x]

Originally posted by hujer
but i need the src first

Source will not be provided, please stop asking about them.

I had another ago but still unable to detect the problem so far...

[hujer]

Originally posted by len0x
Source will not be provided, please stop asking about them.

I had another ago but still unable to detect the problem so far...

just wanted to help, heh

[jeremymacmull]

RE HT bug(?)

lenox is in the process of trying to figure out what the bug is so far after numerous attempts theres been no luck

he is hard at work at it so give him some time and support as it must be frustrating when he cant test directly as he does not have HT cpu



otherwise on my cpu 1.18b starts up 50% of the time and the other 50% it says runtime error 216 at XXXXXX

I dont have it set to compatibility mode ie im running it normally

when it does start up it runs perfectly with both cpus as affinity and on the right priority without slowing down my comp for those of you who are using compatibility mode or turning off ht try not doing so and just keep clicking on the exe till it starts up (as i said on my comp its 1/2 chance of it working but once started everything works!)

JEREMY

[hujer]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
RE HT bug(?)

lenox is in the process of trying to figure out what the bug is so far after numerous attempts theres been no luck

he is hard at work at it so give him some time and support as it must be frustrating when he cant test directly as he does not have HT cpu

otherwise on my cpu 1.18b starts up 50% of the time and the other 50% it says runtime error 216 at XXXXXX

JEREMY

well, as i have experiences with debugging delphi projects, and it does crash on my machine everytime, i thought i could fix it in few minutes so offered help, i undrestand this is nearly impossible to fix without access to ht system

lenox if you still have problems finding the problem after some time, feel free to mail me, to debug it one only needs the code that runs on startup, that should be only few onshow/onload functions and you can strip rest of the project..., well anyway, good luck, its a nasty problem

[nightrhyme]

Originally posted by jeremymacmull
RE HT bug(?)

lenox is in the process of trying to figure out what the bug is so far after numerous attempts theres been no luck

he is hard at work at it so give him some time and support as it must be frustrating when he cant test directly as he does not have HT cpu



otherwise on my cpu 1.18b starts up 50% of the time and the other 50% it says runtime error 216 at XXXXXX

I dont have it set to compatibility mode ie im running it normally

when it does start up it runs perfectly with both cpus as affinity and on the right priority without slowing down my comp for those of you who are using compatibility mode or turning off ht try not doing so and just keep clicking on the exe till it starts up (as i said on my comp its 1/2 chance of it working but once started everything works!)

JEREMY

I have no problem starting up the exe and starting the encoding. AutoGK just crashes half way through encoding with HT enabled.
Also the pc acts funny with AutoGK running and HT enabled.
It acts like no more memory is available very sluggish.
AutoGK uses about 400 - 500MB memory here. I have 1024MB.

BTW: My system : Asus P4p800, p4c 3.0GHz, 2 x 512Mb pc3200 Mushkin special.

[hujer]

Originally posted by nightrhyme
I have no problem starting up the exe and starting the encoding. AutoGK just crashes half way through encoding with HT enabled.
Also the pc acts funny with AutoGK running and HT enabled.
It acts like no more memory is available very sluggish.
AutoGK uses about 400 - 500MB memory here. I have 1024MB.

BTW: My system : Asus P4p800, p4c 3.0GHz, 2 x 512Mb pc3200 Mushkin special.

do you have win98 compatibility mode on ?, also check in taskbar how many cpus (affinity) is the process using

[jeremymacmull]

Ive no got the compatibility mode on (as when i do the system is sluggish)

but even without it on ive never had autogk crash on me

JEREMY

[nightrhyme]

Originally posted by hujer
do you have win98 compatibility mode on ?, also check in taskbar how many cpus (affinity) is the process using

I don't have compatibility mode on. Would never use it :-)
It runs on both logical CPU's. But still only uses 50% CPU which is an indication that the program don't utilize the HT feature properly.

For instance try TMPGEnc which is optimized for HT and uses 100% CPU with HT enabled.

[AlmanNewfred]

I don't have a HT CPU, and I have no idea if this is relevant, but sometimes vDubMod will stop and say a thread deadlock was detected. This usually happens at the end of the first pass. It looks like vDubMod has at least one bug in the way it handles threads.

[jeremymacmull]

It uses about 70-80% cpu here not 50 and I know divx is optimised for HT

although that extra 30% would make quite a jump in encoding speed!!!

JEREMY

[len0x]

Originally posted by hujer
lenox if you still have problems finding the problem after some time, feel free to mail me, to debug it one only needs the code that runs on startup, that should be only few onshow/onload functions and you can strip rest of the project..., well anyway, good luck, its a nasty problem

If I'm correct in understanding the problem (I might be not):

Hyperthreading (but not dual systems) execute the code into two pipelines within the same processor (like two threads you may imagine), so if you are accessing the same variable twice in a row for instance it may be that access instructions will be put to different pipelines and if second pipeline reaches the execution point first then variable will get inconsistent state. Moreover if variable was supposed to be initialized with the first access then second access can get famous runtime error 216. I think this is what causing it - and if you think 3GHz limit can be even explained: since the code is executing faster then there is more chances that some parts of the code will overtake others. I don't know whether its hardware/os/compiler problem, but as programmatically I'm not doing any threading on startrup (unless delphi does CreateForm in a separate thread on its own) I would not expect this behavior. I'll try to put artificial delay between calls to global variables to see if that helps...

Any other thoughts ?

[hujer]

Originally posted by len0x
Any other thoughts ?

well, if you dont have other threads in your app i think it may be external problem or maybe problem in some delphi component ? do you use some 3rd party components ?

"IF" it is some global variable causing it can be fixing with proper locking with entercriticalsection()

createform dont run in second thread unless you do something in special way

you may want to try adding some debug msgboxes into startup functions and contructors to find the section in which it crashes

i was googling a little and i found 2 notes about delphi and HT crashes, one was related to some broken component from 3rd party, and one was some bug in TListView in vsReport mode, thats why if you dont use threads on startup i think it could be some component causing

btw it is (i think, dont have delphi here at work) possible to compile exe file with debug info, so i can run debugger here and check callstack in which function it crashed, that may be helpful for you

[len0x]

Originally posted by hujer
well, if you dont have other threads in your app i think it may be external problem or maybe problem in some delphi component ? do you use some 3rd party components ?


I have removed all VCL GUI components plus all 3rd party stuff and it still crashes, so I think it is global vars which are causing this (I removed all of them and waiting for confirmation if it works or not)

I obviously do have some threads (nowhere near startup), but I removed them as as well for testing...

Originally posted by hujer
"IF" it is some global variable causing it can be fixing with proper locking with entercriticalsection()


I was about to try that, but had to be sure that it is the cause.
It is still beyond my understanding how this is possible if there is no threading? Critical section may not even help since runtime error 216 means that variable was not initialized and therefore nothing can be accomplished via critical section (how global var is not initialized - again good question)

Originally posted by hujer

btw it is (i think, dont have delphi here at work) possible to compile exe file with debug info, so i can run debugger here and check callstack in which function it crashed, that may be helpful for you

I'll check.

[hujer]

Originally posted by len0x
Critical section may not even help since runtime error 216 means that variable was not initialized and therefore nothing can be accomplished via critical section (how global var is not initialized - again good question)


maybe you try to access variable that you have just destroyed, but no clue how that can happen in fast ht cpus only with only one thread :)

btw which delphi version do you use ?

and are you on some irc channel ? may be faster, i can also run the test binaries for you if needed

[len0x]

Originally posted by hujer
maybe you try to access variable that you have just destroyed, but no clue how that can happen in fast ht cpus only with only one thread :)

there is no variables to destroy - I only have boolean and short string vars there.

P.S. PM me for contact details - I'm on all messenger networks

[len0x]

Thanks to hujer we nailed down the problem: it was CPU info function from one of 3rd party libraries (JCL). Problem was fixed easly afterwards.

[len0x]

hopefully its 1.20 RC :)

[jeremymacmull]

Congrats!!

JEREMY

[nightrhyme]

Originally posted by len0x
Thanks to hujer we nailed down the problem: it was CPU info function from one of 3rd party libraries (JCL). Problem was fixed easly afterwards.

Sounds good :)
Will be testing it out ;)

[rmagere]

I will be testing if that also solves the affinity problem with dual cpu.

[Taurus]

Great work on a great project!
What will we do, when AutoGk is stable and there is nothing left to be implanted?
Retire and settle down?
I dont hope so.

Cheers

Taurus

[jeremymacmull]

There is always more stuff to do,

new codecs and other containers ie ogg etc

ofcourse there is always GKNOT regular which could have a lot more things

so i doubt lenox will be retiring anytime soon

from me i think its swell all the effort he has put in and he must be proud of his baby (AUTOGK) to have come so far

JEREMY

[CvH]

could it happend , since AGK Update from 1.18 to 1.19 AGK donst work anymore ? :(

I can start it and choose the source and so on ..
then i klick on start but nothings happens ... -> after 1 minute agk crashs

I have updatet it like every version before ... i cant explanin me the error :P

tryed to reinstall it (at first uninstall , then reinstall)

v1 works , v1.10 works , v1.19 dosent work ... :(

[rmagere]

The dual cpu affinity problem is still there, i.e. virtualdubmod launched by AutoGK sets its affinity to 1 cpu only, virtualdubmod launched by GK sets its affinity to both cpus.

[btothec2]

Vdubmod starts with affinity set to both processors on my machine. This is a real dual cpu machine not a HT machine, which is I believe your setup correct?

B

[nightrhyme]

AutoGK 1.19 seems to work ok on my HT Cpu now. All though it does not seem to utilize both cpu's. Still it does not crash anymore. Thanx so much :)

BTW. Where do you guys see the affinity setting in VdubMod ?

http://hjem.tele2adsl.dk/nightrhyme/AutoGK_2.jpg

[Stebs]

Originally posted by CvH
could it happend , since AGK Update from 1.18 to 1.19 AGK donst work anymore ? :(


From the AutoGK Website:

*EDIT* silent update was done to 1.19 since queue wasn't working at all in the first 1.19 I put online. sorry about that

So try downloading 1.19 again and see if it works now...

[therealjoeblow]

I've used every version of AutoGK over the past many months, with nary a problem. On Saturday and Sunday I encoded this same movie 4 different times in v-1.18 with various settings (credits, no credits, forced ivtc, auto-everything), and *no problem at all*, every one of them ran smoothly. Yesterday I had to reapply Win2kSP4 and reinstall DirectX9. Today I decided to try encoding the same movie again, and now, no matter what settings I use, I get a Range Check Error and crash *everytime* after the analysis, and immediately as the comptest starts. Every Time! I tried uninstalling AutoGK, reinstalling the v-1.0 stable, (and NOT the aplha xvid), and then the v-1.18 update (of course ensuring that the entire AutoGK directory got deleted after the uninstall). That didn't make any difference, I still get the crash every time. Anyone have any insight? Log file follows...

[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Input dir: L:\GORMENGHAST\Episode1\VIDEO_TS
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Output file: C:\__\gg1.avi
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Audio: English
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Subtitles: none
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Codec: XviD
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Target size: 700Mb
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Started encoding.
[4/27/2004 10:32:21 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[4/27/2004 10:35:26 PM] Analyzing source.
[4/27/2004 10:35:26 PM] Writing the following script to C:\__\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\__\\gk_tmp\\_.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\__\\gk_tmp\\_.avi");
===========================================================
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 57.32
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 25.84
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 6.90
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 67.26
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly NTSC).
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Writing the following script to C:\__\gk_tmp\lastjob.vcf
===========================================================
VirtualDub.Open("C:\\__\\gk_tmp\\_test.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\__\\gk_tmp\\_test.avi");
===========================================================
[4/27/2004 10:39:00 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Found threshold of: 1.43
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Found 108388 frames
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Credits start frame: 106414
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Credits quality percentage: 25
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Credits greyscale option activated.
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Audio size: 86,797,824 bytes (82.78 Mb)
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Overhead: 602,752 bytes (0.57 Mb)
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Video size: 646,602,624 bytes (616.65 Mb)
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Running compressibility test.
[4/27/2004 10:39:34 PM] Writing the following script to C:\__\gk_tmp\gg1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")

function getOrder(clip c) {
order = GetParity(c) ? 1 : 0
return order }

movie = mpeg2source("C:\__\gk_tmp\gg1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=35)
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / 0.911392405063291)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
fixed_aspect = input_par > 1.4 ? 0.911392405063291 : 0.888888888888889
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,order=getOrder(movie),guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.43)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=35)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Range check error
*************************************
[4/27/2004 10:39:35 PM] Job finished.

[therealjoeblow]

I tried a completely different movie, to completely different drives (same machine), and had the same crash. So in a fit of rage, I did the following, in this order:

1) uninstalled divx 5.1.1 (from add/remove programs)
2) uninstalled xvid 1.0rc4 (from add/remove programs)
3) uninstalled avisynth 2.5.4 (from add/remove programs)
4) uninstalled autogk 1.18 from it's shortcut

then:

1) reinstalled divx 5.1.1
2) reinstalled xvid 1.0rc4
3) reinstalled AutoGK 1.0 full, everything minus xvid alpha
4) reinstalled AutoGK 1.12 update only
5) reinstalled AutoGK 1.16 update only
6) reinstalled AutoGK 1.18 update only

Now it all appears to work (at least it's running the comptest right now - I'll have to report back later if it finishes completely, but it was failing before the comptest everytime earlier).

If it did get fixed, I have no idea exactly which step above it was that was the cure, but if anyone runs into a simlar problem, give this a shot.

[hujer]

Originally posted by rmagere
The dual cpu affinity problem is still there, i.e. virtualdubmod launched by AutoGK sets its affinity to 1 cpu only, virtualdubmod launched by GK sets its affinity to both cpus.

did you remove win98 compatibility setting ?

i did test encode now and it uses both cpus

[pindawg]

Has anyone else had a problem with credit mode starting early in the latest release? I just encoded 3 movies, and in all 3 the credit mode started early. I verified the frame number with vdubmod, and the frmae number in the credit file to be correct. ie one movie credits start @ frame 156299, and it appears AGK started credit mode at ~ frame 125088.

Any Ideas??

[len0x]

Originally posted by pindawg
Has anyone else had a problem with credit mode starting early in the latest release? I just encoded 3 movies, and in all 3 the credit mode started early. I verified the frame number with vdubmod, and the frmae number in the credit file to be correct. ie one movie credits start @ frame 156299, and it appears AGK started credit mode at ~ frame 125088.
Any Ideas??

yes its IVTC applied, you should always supply non-FF (or IVTC-ed) frame number for credits start.

[pindawg]

Originally posted by len0x
yes its IVTC applied, you should always supply non-FF (or IVTC-ed) frame number for credits start.

Got it.. Thanks len0x!

[rmagere]

Originally posted by hujer
did you remove win98 compatibility setting ?

i did test encode now and it uses both cpus

Yeah I never used win98 compatibility as I have never bothered enabling HT, however it still see that problem. I'll try reinstalling everything and have a look.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by len0x
yes its IVTC applied, you should always supply non-FF (or IVTC-ed) frame number for credits start.

...Or use the frame calculator feature in the 'Hidden Options' tool, just enter the credit start timestamp, and choose NTSC or PAL, and you're done :)

BTW, the uninstall/reinstall process noted earlier for the 'Range Check Error' worked. Don't know exactly what was pooched, but something sure was.

[RathO]

The hidden options are very hidden since i press ctrl-F9 and nothing appears... why?

Regards

[Stebs]

Originally posted by RathO
The hidden options are very hidden since i press ctrl-F9 and nothing appears... why?

Regards

:rolleyes: Because it's Ctrl-F10 ;)

Ctrl-F9 is for a plugin you have to download and place in the AutoGK-Folder.

[RathO]

Ah, the tool is downloadable... should be included in AutoGK by default. Thanks for the fast reply!

Regards

[QNX]

damn.. it works.. don't have troubs anymore with my HT cpu :)

10x! :D

[Toge]

will 1.20 be a stable?

[usrbinmadness]

Hello. I enjoy AutoGK for Windows and it works great.

However, I would like to install AutoGK in Linux using WINE, but the installer doesn't appear properly on the screen so I cannot continue with the installation under WINE on Linux, I have to kill the process. I've tried it several times and it continues with this problem*. I have installed Gordian Knot codec pack fine because it uses a different installer. What I'm wondering is if it's possible to release AutoGK with the same installer as Gordian Knot uses? This way I (and many others) would be able to use AutoGK in Linux under WINE. Thanks for reading.

*=I hope this post isn't considered off-topic. I enjoy AutoGK very much but would like to use it in Linux making it available with a different installer (such as the one Winamp has used) would solve the problem I am having.

[cork]

Originally posted by usrbinmadness I enjoy AutoGK very much but would like to use it in Linux making it available with a different installer (such as the one Winamp has used) would solve the problem I am having. [/B]
Errr... AutoGK precisely uses NSIS 2.0 which is also used by winamp and GK's System Pack.
What version of winamp works ? Please try Winamp 5 to see if it is a specific 2.0 problem.

[Carraway]

len0x,

Is there any chance that the maximum fixed width could be increased to 800 as it is in GKnot? I have several 2.35:1 movies that would easily fit on 2 CD's at that resolution but 720 is the maximum autogk will go. This is a relatively minor issue but I figured I'd float the idea for peace of mind. Let me know what you think.

[buk]

Hi, today trying to connect to autogk web page I have following message: "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: message_die() in /home/len0x/public_html/web/db/db.php on line 88". I must point out, that a few weeks i have terrible problems with downloading files from this site. A few days after each new version (beta) is the server out of order for me. I must download autogk from some Polish site or other site. I´m using Win XP Pro, IE6, broadband connection with personal firewall (blocked refferers, ads.... and so on). What is the problem?



Thanx,

buk

[buk]

Hi, today trying to connect to autogk web page I have following message: "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: message_die() in /home/len0x/public_html/web/db/db.php on line 88". I must point out, that a few weeks i have terrible problems with downloading files from this site. A few days after each new version (beta) is the server out of order for me. I must download autogk from some Polish site or other site. I´m using Win XP Pro, IE6, broadband connection with personal firewall (blocked refferers, ads.... and so on). What is the problem?



Thanx,

buk

[len0x]

gr... just as I woke up I found out that my hosting server it totally down. when they get it up again my web site should be working as usual..

[Taurus]

Congratulation!

Anybody noticed it, that we arrived at page 100 (in standard page view)?
Never thought that we will go this far.
Thank you lenOx and all supporters for your incredible work.:) :) :) :D

Cheers

Taurus

[((( atom )))]

i have an issue wich i would say is caused by badly masterd dvds - incorrect aspects - and could be easily taken care of in autogk.

i have a 16:9 tv with vga in, so that means very very little overscanning since it actually functions like a pc monitor, and i have adjusted the image to slightly exceed the screen.

i just encoded the second movie wich is ot exactly 16:9 but a little less wide (672x416 in my recent encode). it looks plain stupid on my display, having little bars to the left and right side. on a 16:9 tv though, the rather large overscan would fix the issue, so it would fill the screen again.

using gknot i (and may others i assume) always make sure the output will be strict 4:3, 16:9 and so on. gknot pretty much helps enforcing this by using the multiple of 16/32 switches.

anyway, i think it might make sense to make autogk just crop a few pixels more in order to achieve correct results again.

i might as well oversee some point here, so please comment.


regards,

[len0x]

I've just received an email from my hosting service - they're moving servers around so website is still unaccessable (hopefully tomorrow it should be up and running again).

Here (http://64.246.25.140/~len0x/AutoGordianKnot.1.19.beta.Update.exe) is direct link for those still wishing to get 1.19 version.

[manono]

Hi atom-

I don't understand. I don't know what the original AR of the movie is, but it's easy to see how a 1.66:1 movie could become 1.62:1 (672x416) with cropping from the left and right sides to get low Aspect Error. Are you saying that you want it to fill your screen without black bars, even if that means giving it bad AR? And what do you do for 2.35:1 movies? Do you like to stretch them vertically just so they fill the screen (sorry-couldn't resist)?

When I play 1.66:1 movies on my widescreen TV, I also see small black bars on the left and right sides. It doesn't bother me at all. When I watch 1.77:1 or 1.85:1 movies on the widescreen, the overscan hides the black bars (on the 1.85:1 movies), and the movie fills the screen. But those are the only ones where I get true full screen (and in my opinion, the only ones that should fill the screen). If your movie was originally 1.77:1 or 1.85:1, then I'd say you have a case. What's the movie, and what is the movie's AR? And you're not confusing DAR (4:3 or 16:9) with the movie AR (1.66:1, 1.77:1, 1.85:1, 2.35:1, etc.) are you?

[((( atom )))]

hi manono,

no, i don't want to stretct any movie to make it loose its ar, i'd rather cut a little from top and bottom to make it fill my screen and look nice. as written, on regular tv sets all four sides are "cut", due to overscanning and the picture fills the screen again, i just don't have that.

who is using 1.66:1? where would that format come from? is there any film format like that?
so far it looked like an error in the mastering process to me..

and, no... i don't want to stretch 2.35:1 movies to fill my screen ;)

[manono]

Hi atom-

on regular tv sets all four sides are "cut", due to overscanning and the picture fills the screen again, i just don't have that.

If it's a 1.66:1 movie, on a regular TV, even taking the overscan into account, there will be small black bars on top and bottom. A regular TV set is 1.33:1.

who is using 1.66:1? where would that format come from? is there any film format like that?

Sure, IMDB lists over 500 movies in 1.66:1 ratio:

http://www.imdb.com/Sections/DVDs/AspectRatios/1.66_:_1/

This page has some discussion of 1.66:1 movies:

http://www.hkfanatic.com/widescreen/widescreen/widescreen.php

And here's a nice thread about the issue, including some history of the development of the 1.66:1 ratio, with some real experts chiming in:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?threadid=147312

I can almost understand you wanting to crop a little from the top and bottom so that the movie fills the screen of your TV set. But I also think it's too much to ask AutoGK to do for you. If your movie really is 1.66:1, then the autocrop isn't doing anything wrong. I think you either have to zoom the picture a little more to cut from the top and bottom (by using Zoom Player, for example, that's easy to do), or crop it the way you want by using GKnot.

[((( atom )))]

hi manono,

thx for the links, very interresting.
here a more visual impression of what i see: http://www.othyrworld.com/16x9/

so since it turned out to be a format of its own, it would be technically wrong to have any application automatically "correct" it, you are right.

still it looks rediculous on either screen, so i wonder why the studios not fit it before releasing..

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by ((( atom )))
hi manono,

no, i don't want to stretct any movie to make it loose its ar, i'd rather cut a little from top and bottom to make it fill my screen and look nice. as written, on regular tv sets all four sides are "cut", due to overscanning and the picture fills the screen again, i just don't have that.

who is using 1.66:1? where would that format come from? is there any film format like that?
so far it looked like an error in the mastering process to me..

and, no... i don't want to stretch 2.35:1 movies to fill my screen ;)

atom - you didn't mention the player you're using - have you tried zoomplayer? I use it with the default zoom set to about 105%, which effectively does the same as what you want in terms of additional crop, it clears up all of the remnant side edges. Actually with a remote (ATI Remote Wonder, and the Rylos plugin), the 1-10 keys on the remote are mapped to the 10 zoom presets, and I've got mine going up in about 5~10% increments, so I can zoom in and out at will, with virtually no effort.

I usually watch true 16:9's at the 100 or 105% setting (depending if any cropping is needed), and most 2.35:1's zoomed at somewhere around 150%, so they look similar to 16:9's - 2.35:1 is just too wide and short for a 32" TV. Note, there is no stretching going on, it just zooms in and fills the display, with whatever doesn't fit going off into digital oblivion somewhere.

[Black0ut]

I just encoded an Futurama Episode with AutoGK 1.19 and while Encoding VDubMod showed "Autoloaded 1 Filters". Which filter could it autoload?

PS: I also used XviD Cartoon Mode

edit: I found a problem, AutoGK thinks it is interlaced, but I looked it through it isn't!

[baeckerg]

Hi len0x,

When I read about the latest fixes in AutoGK I was wondering if you could shed some light on how the problem on hyperthreading was solved.

The reason for the question is that I am working with Delphi 7 and ran into a problem on Hyperthreading machines myself with a Runtime 216 and a stable application after turning off the hyperthreading or switching to Win98 compatibility mode.

Kind regards and thanks for a great program
Gernot

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Originally posted by Black0ut
I just encoded an Futurama Episode with AutoGK 1.19 and while Encoding VDubMod showed "Autoloaded 1 Filters". Which filter could it autoload?

PS: I also used XviD Cartoon Mode

edit: I found a problem, AutoGK thinks it is interlaced, but I looked it through it isn't!

"Autoloaded 1 Filters" <- it's mostly the VobSub Filter which gets outo loaded by default when using vdub...

And cause you're from germany i thing you'r encoding pal german rc2 version of futurama, as i did, which for sure is interlaced as nearly all tv series in pal!

[((( atom )))]

Originally posted by therealjoeblow
atom - you didn't mention the player you're using - have you tried zoomplayer? i watch my movies off a linux box running mplayer and lirc for remote controll. it holds all my movies on a laaaarge disk. it's great!

[homerjay]

just got hold of this ant tested for a friend to see if it really is idiot proof

hes got one of those divx dvd players so converting to avi is perfect for him

what a fantastically smooth program - thankyou very much for your work :D

now a question :sly: it may have been asked before but its such a big thread are there text versions of the scripts used anywhere and could they be converted for use with dvd2svcd as the 1cd xvid with 128mb mp3 audio was as good as i have ever managed doing 1cd svcd's

[len0x]

Originally posted by baeckerg
When I read about the latest fixes in AutoGK I was wondering if you could shed some light on how the problem on hyperthreading was solved.


JCL function getCPUInfo was at fault in my case (from JEDI library), although I didn't use it directly myself. (and its not 216 error, but division by zero)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Carraway
len0x,

Is there any chance that the maximum fixed width could be increased to 800 as it is in GKnot? I have several 2.35:1 movies that would easily fit on 2 CD's at that resolution but 720 is the maximum autogk will go. This is a relatively minor issue but I figured I'd float the idea for peace of mind. Let me know what you think.

why not, but only for fixed width mode :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Toge
will 1.20 be a stable?

looks like it won't. new DVD2AVI is on the way - I'll need some testing of that...

[baeckerg]

Originally posted by len0x
JCL function getCPUInfo was at fault in my case (from JEDI library), although I didn't use it directly myself. (and its not 216 error, but division by zero)

Thanks for the info. I got some problem with this part from JCL as well.

Gernot

[Carraway]

You may already be aware of this, but it seems that the new version may have a problem properly ivtc'ing FILM material. I've only tested a couple of sources but both have had the same problem, so I figured it was worth posting.

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/combing01.jpg

http://home.columbus.rr.com/carraway6/combing02.jpg

I encoded this clip with both 1.20 and 1.19. 1.19 encoded it correctly, obviously, so I compared the D2V files produced by both, and the only difference was the following:

DVD2AVIProjectFile02
1
49 D:\DVD\FIFTH_ELEMENT\CLIP01\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2 (1:MMX 2:SSEMMX 3:FPU 4:REF 5:SSE2MMX)
YUVRGB_Scale=1 (0:TVScale 1:PCScale)
Luminance_Filter=0,0 (Gamma, Offset)
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0 (ClipLeft, ClipRight, ClipTop, ClipBottom)
Aspect_Ratio=4:3
Field_Operation=2 (0:None 1:ForcedFILM 2:SwapOrder 3:RawFrames)
Frame_Rate=23976
Location=0,0,0,61BE

In v 1.19, Field_Operation was set to 1. And when I change the v1.20 d2v file setting from 2 back to 1, it fixes the combing problems. I'm not terribly familiar with what SwapOrder does, so I have no idea if this setting is intentional in 1.20, but I thought I might as well post it anyway. Just in case.