CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC" [Archive] - Page 65

ACrowley

10th September 2007, 10:40

:rolleyes:There should be no more activation, just a serial.

nice...so i can setup a fresh Install/ new System and i only need my Serial to activate it .
Thats really a good update
Old Activation sucks! more Restrictions/Trouble as a few $ Software

BetaBoy

19th September 2007, 21:27

Can any advanced users with a new version of Cyberlink give more details on how they are handling Merits and why the new version is diff then the old way they handled merits?

Just curious.

Theliel

20th September 2007, 08:51

In the newest version:

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/2854/capturacl8.jpg

I dont remember others build, sorry.

BetaBoy

20th September 2007, 16:47

In the newest version:

I dont remember others build, sorry.

Theliel.... thanx... I guess what I am saying is what are they doing diff now vs. before that based on the reports we are getting, even when any other AVC decoder is installed that has an equal merit, that cyberlink still is being used.

What gets me is that over the past year that Cyberlink has increased their AVC merit for no reason (that I or our developers are aware of) at all.

But hey.... maybe I am wrong here.... lmk.

CruNcher

20th September 2007, 20:21

i know that for parser there is a setting (registry) based on file extensions (.xxx) dunno if this also can be used for decoders or other types of Directshow filter, maybe you should look there :)

Dark Shikari

20th September 2007, 20:27

Theliel.... thanx... I guess what I am saying is what are they doing diff now vs. before that based on the reports we are getting, even when any other AVC decoder is installed that has an equal merit, that cyberlink still is being used.

What gets me is that over the past year that Cyberlink has increased their AVC merit for no reason (that I or our developers are aware of) at all.

But hey.... maybe I am wrong here.... lmk.
That's how DirectShow works: Cyberlink's competitor comes out with a better product, so they raise their merit to compensate! :rolleyes: ;)

BetaBoy

20th September 2007, 21:13

That's how DirectShow works: Cyberlink's competitor comes out with a better product, so they raise their merit to compensate! :rolleyes: ;)
LOL :devil:

Guest

20th September 2007, 23:34

Is there any way to make CoreAVC decode an elementary AVC stream (raw H.264)? I can't find anything that will connec to CoreAVC's input pin, e.g., File source (async) won't connect.

Sergey A. Sablin

20th September 2007, 23:48

Is there any way to make CoreAVC decode an elementary AVC stream (raw H.264)? I can't find anything that will connec to CoreAVC's input pin, e.g., File source (async) won't connect.

file source async outputs plain data stream, so it's supposed to be a demultiplexer between them which understands Annex B byte stream.

edit: just to make clear - in directshow majority of decoders do not connect to "unknown" mediatypes like GUID_NULL, in case annex B, demuxer shall parse the data, construct mediatype and then you can connect to its output decoder. Same way as PS/TS

Guest

20th September 2007, 23:59

Can you suggest an Annex B demuxer that I can use?

EDIT: Never mind, Sonic HD Demuxer works fine. Thank you for your help.

Guest

21st September 2007, 00:34

Sergey A. Sablin

21st September 2007, 00:45

Sonic HD Demuxer is not reliably working for all my test files. Many that open fine in DGAVCIndex (has NAL parser from JVC reference software) won't connect to the Sonic HD Demuxer. Can you suggest any other demuxers suitable for connecting raw H.264 NAL streams to CoreAVC?

I'm afraid no. Released version of ours do not support CoreAVC either. Next version will, but I don't know yet the release date.

Probably I could send you the one from development tomorrow, if you're interested.

Guest

21st September 2007, 00:58

Probably I could send you the one from development tomorrow, if you're interested.
Yes, I am interested. Thank you, Sergey. I will keep it private and send you any feedback that I have.

Sergey A. Sablin

21st September 2007, 06:24

Yes, I am interested. Thank you, Sergey. I will keep it private and send you any feedback that I have.

ok, I was said release planned to be in 2-3 weeks. then updated demuxer will be available within our player and other products.

PS. Donald, pm me with your email.

Sergey.

sweetbox

24th September 2007, 20:13

Does CoreAVC hand decode within every following step?
EntropyDecoder ,Reorder ,Inverse quantization ,iDCT and CABAC/CAVLC decoder

I'm not very clear about decoder steps,but the question is that the change on iDCT setting of Libavcodec do infect the decode speed when using CoreAVC to decode X.264 720P video on the kmplayer,so that does CoreAVC hand the iDCT(the CoreAVC properly working when playing)?

Anyone help me about the decoder process steps and CoreAVC hand then all?
Thanks .

foxyshadis

24th September 2007, 21:30

CoreAVC handles the entire decoding process, and not only that, the idct setting in ffdshow is completely unused for h264 and post-processing raw video (which is how ffdshow is used when CoreAVC is decoding). Either you're mistaken about the idct affecting speed, or you're not watching actual h264.

A number of game trailers that claim to be h264 are actually Sorensen 3 (SVQ3). Check that with something like mediainfo, first.

BetaBoy

28th September 2007, 21:26

All.... a few things to note that has been going on here relating to CoreAVC...

- The reported issues with CoreAVC as it relates to MediaPortal may not in fact be CoreAVC at all, but instead it looks like tsreader is the problem. We are looking into it more.

- Merit slider.... it was noted internally that the only thing left is the UI and then we can release an update. I'd look for this to be push out soon.

Lastly.... 'drum roll please'......

I'd like to annouce that starting in late October we will be doing a closed (initially) beta for our upcoming CoreAVC Encoder Editions. Please no PM's yet on it but so far I think that ppl will be happy with whats coming (I know we are). We will ask some of the Doom9 Elite at first to have a go and tell us what they are finding.

BlackSun

28th September 2007, 22:29

i know that for parser there is a setting (registry) based on file extensions (.xxx) dunno if this also can be used for decoders or other types of Directshow filter, maybe you should look there :)

That only apply to source filters

CruNcher

29th September 2007, 16:30

@Blacksun

yes ofcourse Source not Parser :P

All.... a few things to note that has been going on here relating to CoreAVC...

- The reported issues with CoreAVC as it relates to MediaPortal may not in fact be CoreAVC at all, but instead it looks like tsreader is the problem. We are looking into it more.

- Merit slider.... it was noted internally that the only thing left is the UI and then we can release an update. I'd look for this to be push out soon.

Lastly.... 'drum roll please'......

I'd like to annouce that starting in late October we will be doing a closed (initially) beta for our upcoming CoreAVC Encoder Editions. Please no PM's yet on it but so far I think that ppl will be happy with whats coming (I know we are). We will ask some of the Doom9 Elite at first to have a go and tell us what they are finding.

Sounds great but for sure it will need heavy tweaking (bugfixing) seeing how young it is, though i really wonder when XviD AVC is gonna see the light now as it was finished alot longer then CoreAVC but no life sign since the last Doom9 test :( anyway im looking forward to your CoreAVC Encoder release, maybe some info infront wich tools are allready implemented ? FreXt support ? any psy stuff ?

BetaBoy

6th October 2007, 23:27

I'd like to grab a few testers in this thread to test our plug-in for CoreAVC Professional in GStreamer on Windows, Linux and OS X.... anyone interested pls email me betaboy@corecodec.com and I'll give you more info.

Usa1955

7th October 2007, 13:33

Does CoreAVC support Windows XP x64/64bit?

tomos

8th October 2007, 00:58

latest works fine on vistax64. no idea on xp tho.....

BetaBoy

8th October 2007, 01:06

We plan on releasing a native 64 bit version next year. But tomos is correct it will install fine on x64 now... but will run in 32bit mode.

BetaBoy

8th October 2007, 01:11

@Blacksun

yes ofcourse Source not Parser :P

Sounds great but for sure it will need heavy tweaking (bugfixing) seeing how young it is, though i really wonder when XviD AVC is gonna see the light now as it was finished alot longer then CoreAVC but no life sign since the last Doom9 test :( anyway im looking forward to your CoreAVC Encoder release, maybe some info infront wich tools are allready implemented ? FreXt support ? any psy stuff ?

At this time we plan on first releasing the CoreAVC Standard Edition Encoder. It will support one-pass encoding and Baseline profile. Professional will support Base, Main, Extended... and will have 2 pass.... Enterprise will feature all the above plus 4:2:2, 4:4:4, etc. and have a 3 pass mode (i'll discuss 3 pass later).

FreXt and psy support.... yes.

BlackSun

8th October 2007, 16:38

Can anyone tell me what is the default merit of the cyberlink h264 dshow decoder please ? I changed mine and cannot remember what it was.

Thanks :) (Yes we're working on that too).

Btw, the Media Portal problem will be fixed on the next release !

bob0r

8th October 2007, 16:50

@BlackSun:

On my system:
CoreAVC Video Decoder: 00600200
Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD 7.x): 00600400

TheShadowRunner

9th October 2007, 02:54

Is hardware acceleration still planned?
Later,

TSR

oddball

9th October 2007, 03:35

Is hardware acceleration still planned?
Later,

TSR

Something about flying pigs etc

dieselgg

9th October 2007, 05:30

Perhaps one of you guys can help me out. I have a laptop, 3.07 GHz Hyperthread, 1.5 gigs RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP. FFDshow and matroska media splitter installed. Also using AVC x264 decoder.

I am trying to play a High Defn video of a soccer game encoded in x264, container is .mkv. and the file size is 2.2Gigs. When I try to play it in Media Player Classic, the video slows down after a couple of minutes and the sound starts to break up.

It did work one time but it was when I had a virus and it stopped a whole bunch of services in my system tray but I also had to disable "Enable write combining" in my video card properties for it to work. With my system cleaned all the services back up and running, the video slows down. I don't think the services in my system tray would prevent it from running or or use to much resources.

Well if anyone has any tips I would really appreciate it or if I posted in the wrong forum .. let me know. I will create a new thread.

Jay Bee

9th October 2007, 11:04

Could be overheating. Try speedfan to check the CPU temp.

dieselgg

9th October 2007, 13:44

Could be overheating. Try speedfan to check the CPU temp.

JayBee,

Actually, the fan does kick into a higher speed when the video begins to slow down. My room for some reason picks up a lot of dust so I have to vacuum the vent of the intake fan is located to remove a lot of dust that builds up inside.

I will vacuum again and then install speedfan and see what happens.

Thanks,

Jay Bee

9th October 2007, 18:28

so I have to vacuum the vent of the intake fan is located to remove a lot of dust that builds up inside.

You should use a can of compressed air, much more effective than vacuuming.

dieselgg

9th October 2007, 18:29

Could be overheating. Try speedfan to check the CPU temp.

I don't know who you are but I think you may have solved my issue. I don't know why you suggested it but you definitely know your stuff. I did some searching on the net and apparently my model Toshiba A70 laptop is known to have the heatsink clogged with dust. It is a common problem apparently. I regularly vacuum it, but apparently it is not enough. I have to either blast the heat vents with compressed air or take it apart and remove the dust and perhaps reapply thermal grease on the cpu as it could dry up.

Again I don't know who you are but thanks a million. If it was not for your post I would not have google searched my laptop for the overheating issue. I am 90% sure it will fix my problem. I have been racking my brain for the past month, changin hardware and software settings. Reinstalling codes and other stuff.

Take it easy

CruNcher

9th October 2007, 20:52

JayBee,

Actually, the fan does kick into a higher speed when the video begins to slow down. My room for some reason picks up a lot of dust so I have to vacuum the vent of the intake fan is located to remove a lot of dust that builds up inside.

I will vacuum again and then install speedfan and see what happens.

Thanks,

i hope you mean you gonna vacuum clean your room and not the interior of the PC :P

leebo

9th October 2007, 22:30

I have a question.

Ever since I installed the codec, my encodes display tall and skinny. File properties show 1080X720, but it's not being displayed that way.

This happens with WMP 10, Nero Showtime, and TheaterTEK. When I use Media Player Classic however, it displays OK (i.e. widescreen), except when I select "Full screen", in which case it's tall and skinny like in the other players.

I'm running MCE 2005 w/rollup2. Again, this only started after I installed CoreAVC. I've checked CoreAVC settings but I don't see anything that might be related to this.

I'm not possitive CoreAVC is the problem, but it's the only think I can remember that has changed on the system.

bob0r

9th October 2007, 22:56

@leebo

Right mouse on video > Filters

Please type or make a screenshot and show us what you got there. (In media player classic)

Shinigami-Sama

10th October 2007, 01:47

actually the small hose attachement on a vacuum plus a can of air helps
don't get the vacuum to close though else it work as well

TheShadowRunner

10th October 2007, 01:58

Hey guys, i have a problem with CoreAVC 1.5 and most 720p MKV files.
When using VMR9, the framerate is around 10-15fps max (source is 24 fps), although the CPU is quite low, about 20-25% usage max. I don't get it, isn't the CPU supposed to be maxed out before experiencing stutters like i do?
When I switch to Overlay, it's a bit better but i'm pretty sure i'm not getting 24fps either. The CPU with overlay is just a bit lower, 15-20% usage.
Why isn't CoreAVC using my CPU more in order to display 24fps?
When using Cyberlink is soft mode or FFDshow, i have solid 24fps with both overlay & VMR9. What's going on?

My Videocard is geforce 8500GT, the CPU is Intel Dual Core E2180 (2ghz, not overclocked). I'm on XP SP2. (if it makes any difference nvidia drivers are 163.71)
Thanks for any help, i don't get it.
Later,

TSR

lexor

10th October 2007, 05:27

Hey BetaBoy, sorry to hijack this thread for a bit, but I don't know if you'll check audio forums.

I was wondering if with all these new developments from Core team, CoreAAC will be making a triumphant comeback? I can't access any of its websites: corecodec.org isn't there, .com doesn't have it, coreforge doesn't seem to have it either. The only thread on Doom9 I can find is from may of 2006 and there was talk of 2.0 "in weeks", but then nothing for over a year. Any news on that front? Or has the project been nixed?

BetaBoy

10th October 2007, 06:12

BetaBoy

10th October 2007, 06:20

Something about flying pigs etc

Moo! Actually Flying Cows... but yes it is planned.

TheShadowRunner

10th October 2007, 06:22

BetaBoy, any idea why i experience this?

Hey guys, i have a problem with CoreAVC 1.5 and most 720p MKV files.
When using VMR9, the framerate is around 10-15fps max (source is 24 fps), although the CPU is quite low, about 20-25% usage max. I don't get it, isn't the CPU supposed to be maxed out before experiencing stutters like i do?
When I switch to Overlay, it's a bit better but i'm pretty sure i'm not getting 24fps either. The CPU with overlay is just a bit lower, 15-20% usage.
Why isn't CoreAVC using my CPU more in order to display 24fps?
When using Cyberlink is soft mode or FFDshow, i have solid 24fps with both overlay & VMR9. What's going on?
My Videocard is geforce 8500GT, the CPU is Intel Dual Core E2180 (2ghz, not overclocked). I'm on XP SP2. (if it makes any difference nvidia drivers are 163.71)
Thanks for any help, i don't get it.
Later,

TSR

Any hints very welcome. ;)

BetaBoy

10th October 2007, 06:33

We have been a little more busy then many of you may have thought.... we are about to release CoreAVC v1.6 (internally called CoreAVC 'Next Generation'). The filter is a complete re-write from scratch and from my testing 'smokes' v1.5 and previous versions. Why a re-write? Simple, speed... I'll put up more details on the release date. But here is a new screen cap.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4969/coreavcpropertiesboxfz4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Hans Ohlo

10th October 2007, 09:02

hi betaboy,
glad to hear about all the work. as i was a big critic about corecodec in the past i want to say how happy i am now with coreavc 1.5 and i am looking forward to new version/products.

Olebrumm71

10th October 2007, 10:46

CoreFLAC, CoreVorbis will return on CoreForge.org soon. I actually created the projects... I just need to ping Toff on doing some code updates to them.

CoreAAC v2.0 has been done for a while now but we are adding HE support atm. Once completed i'll post more info... on it.

Great! Maybe CoreAVC and CoreAAC may be used for the brand new Norwegian DVB-T broadcasts, which use H.264 and AAC-HE, for which there currently does not seem to be any software support.

As a side note: for the AAC-HE audio in the DVB-T broadcasts in Norway, a DirectShow audio-filter would need to support LATM/LOAS encapsulation.

So, BetaBoy, any chance of supporting this?

foxyshadis

10th October 2007, 12:35

That would be the splitter's (ie, Haali's) job, wouldn't it? The splitter is supposed to unencapsulate everything for the decoder, whether it's coreaac or ffdshow or whatever.

TheShadowRunner

10th October 2007, 20:23

well guys, i found the root of my problem with coreAVC : the MKV Splitter by Gabest, when using it along with VMR9 renderless; fps is around 15. When I use the Haali splitter instead, i get 24 alright!
What puzzles me is that Cyberlink and FFDshow ran fine with Gabest's Splitter.. so why not Coreavc? Anyway, it's solved now ;)
Later,

TSR

Jay Bee

11th October 2007, 00:06

I don't know who you are but I think you may have solved my issue. I don't know why you suggested it but you definitely know your stuff. I did some searching on the net and apparently my model Toshiba A70 laptop is known to have the heatsink clogged with dust. It is a common problem apparently. I regularly vacuum it, but apparently it is not enough. I have to either blast the heat vents with compressed air or take it apart and remove the dust and perhaps reapply thermal grease on the cpu as it could dry up.

Again I don't know who you are but thanks a million. If it was not for your post I would not have google searched my laptop for the overheating issue. I am 90% sure it will fix my problem. I have been racking my brain for the past month, changin hardware and software settings. Reinstalling codes and other stuff.

Take it easy

Thx for the kind feedback. :)