CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC"

[Thunderbolt8]

maybe im too stupid to find it...but I still cant see the 1.2 version on that page.

[Ginsonic]

Should all emails be out, I still did not receive one (also not in spam folder) ?

[Sirber]

http://i15.tinypic.com/30i95hj.png

utf8? :)

[f@chance]

Well, new system should have waited. but I am off tomorrow and wanted to take it with me.

After the Paypal thingy, I was directed to the registration page filled it out and after clicking Registeering it just cleaned out the fileds and waiting, Nothing. Name & email address is registered because I can't do it again, but no link no registration confirm email not in the inbox or the spam folder.

Well Betabiy you and the Paypal contact got an email with the details. Please advise.

[BetaBoy]

http://i15.tinypic.com/30i95hj.png

utf8? :)
mmm... I'll look into it.. thx!

[Ginsonic]

Still no email :(

[toytown]

Same error as johnnyfu, back to the old version for now.

[BetaBoy]

All registered users users have been sent upgrade notices... if you have not received it you can wait a few hours or send me an email betaboy@corecodec.com and i'll do a lookup for you.

[BetaBoy]

Same error as johnnyfu, back to the old version for now.

Log back into your Core Account and re-download it... we fixed that issue.

[toytown]

Log back into your Core Account and re-download it... we fixed that issue.

I did and i just redownloaded it again and still the same. I also tried a reboot and removing the old coreavc folders from my system before trying.

I've gone back to the old version for now and i'll wait to see if anybody else gets the problem before i try again.

[BetaBoy]

I did and i just redownloaded it again and still the same. I also tried a reboot and removing the old coreavc folders from my system before trying.

I've gone back to the old version for now and i'll wait to see if anybody else gets the problem before i try again.

Standard or Pro Edition? Also try to download it with a different name to avoid it being a cache issue.

[Ginsonic]

if you have not received it you can wait a few hours or send me an email betaboy@corecodec.com and i'll do a lookup for you
I just sent You an email, thanks for Your help !

[BetaBoy]

Ok, i testet the new CoreAVC with DVBViewer and DVB-S2 Programms, and it still lags :( CPU Usage is only ~30-40%

Can you give me more details?

[JohnnyFu]

Hey Betaboy :)

Thx for the fix, the install works fine now.

I decided to make a comparison on 1.1.0.5 and 1.2.0.0. So i booted up my testsystem. When i try to update CoreAVC on this hard drive i get: This product has already been activated. Please contact CoreCodec.Sales@gmail.com for assistance, it´s the same computer/hardware just another (old) hard drive / optimized-clean-OS, wich i am using for tests.
Now i realize the activation thing... lol. So that means i can install CoreAVC only on one Windows installation ? What to do when i am going to format Windows (usually i do a format every 2-3 months) ?

However... looks like i have to run the 1.2.0.0 tests on my worksystem. Will post the results later in this thread.

[Hans Ohlo]

Hey Betaboy :)

Thx for the fix, the install works fine now.

I decided to make a comparison on 1.1.0.5 and 1.2.0.0. So i booted up my testsystem. When i try to update CoreAVC on this hard drive i get: This product has already been activated. Please contact CoreCodec.Sales@gmail.com for assistance, it´s the same computer/hardware just another (old) hard drive / optimized-clean-OS, wich i am using for tests.
Now i realize the activation thing... lol. So that means i can install CoreAVC only on one Windows installation ? What to do when i am going to format Windows (usually i do a format every 2-3 months) ?

However... looks like i have to run the 1.2.0.0 tests on my worksystem. Will post the results later in this thread.

same here, tried at work and now at home can not install it. this is SO FU**ED UP.

[Jay Bee]

OK, quick review from me:

-Activation system worked fine although I like programs to at least tell me they are going connect to the internet before sending out my data. Also some more information about number of unlocks, number of machines, what to do with Windows reinstalls etc. would be nice. I use other software that use online activation but none of them were as harsh as to give you only a single unlock. Better put your flameproof suit on fast.

-Minor speed improvements (about 1 to 5%).

-Lossless AVC files now work.

-Surprisingly x264 interlaced and Elecard/Mainconcept MBAFF still don't work. I hope there will be a quick fix for this.

-And a small improvement suggestion: I think the default deinterlacing method should be "DirectShow" as this is generally considered to be very powerfull on most of todays graphics cards.

Anyway keep up the good work guys (but please don't let us wait months for important fixes like the interlaced problems I mentioned or the DVB HDTV problems mentioned further up).

[Sirber]

I don't really like that activation thing. I bought it coz I like you guys.
But if I have to crack it if I format or change my HW... that's bad.

[Sharktooth]

Ah! I was about to buy it but my sixth sense told me to check doom9.org forum.
Activation is ugly!

[blubberbirne]

Can you give me more details?

The Picture "stutters", but maybe it's a bug of DVBViewer. I will also tell the Problem this guys

[f@chance]

Buying this codec really sucks. Paid with Paypal, browser hickup after creation of account, no download link. Stuck with a paid PayPal bill, can't associate the account that was created after the Paypal redirection to get a download link.

And I waited, no 1.1 installation, just plain vanilla 1.2 no previous installation, never thought I would ever get passed the registration stage. I leave tomorrow for South Africa and want to take this codec with me, please get your registration sorted.

Like it was mentioned in a thread on the CoreAVC forum the cracked version doesn't provide these type of headaches.

[JohnnyFu]

-Minor speed improvements (about 1 to 5%).

Can't confirm that. I recorded the cpu usage using perfmon on two different video files. Each test has passed three times and i then calculated an avarage value.

First i ran CoreAVC 1.1.0.5 on overlay-mixer and haali (media player classic). Since haali needs alot more cpu i decided not use it in the tests.

http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/haali_overlay.png
Apple Ice Age II Trailer
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/coreavc_1.png
A 2minute sequence from BBC HD Planet Earth Episode 2 (MBAFF)
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/coreavc_2.png

I think there are technical limits for decoding speed and CoreAVC is probably close. However, main thing is that they fixed alot of bugs. I am sure we will see a speed improvement when they implement GPU support.

Edit:Error of measurement is about +-1%

[Thunderbolt8]

so according to these graphics, the speed increase / cpu usage decrease is basically neglible ?

considering my other point, I am right with the assumption that 1.2 is currently only available as update for those who already bought it ? if yes, when will the page be updated for the rest ?

[Sharktooth]

They sell coreavc 1.2 on their website. And no, its not only an update.
However im skeptic about activation and i will think twice before buying it.

[Sirber]

I am right with the assumption that 1.2 is currently only available as update for those who already bought it ? if yes, when will the page be updated for the rest ?If you haven't bought it, then how did you get it?

www.coreavc.com

[JohnnyFu]

considering my other point, I am right with the assumption that 1.2 is currently only available as update for those who already bought it ? if yes, when will the page be updated for the rest ?

You can buy CoreAVC 1.2 on www.coreavc.com (not coreavc.corecodec.com, this sub-domain has to be redirected i think)

Edit: Sirber beats me.. :)

[wiak]

for people that dont get the mail *CHECK* you junkmail/spam folder
and at BetaBoy the new account system dont tell you if you have successful registered, when you click register
:thanks:

[orbitlee]

SMP(multi-core CPU) support limit is reduced from 4 to 2, right?

[eyesonme]

my god，smp 4 to 2 orz

[Hans Ohlo]

SMP(multi-core CPU) support limit is reduced from 4 to 2, right?

WHAT!?! I payed for SMP support up to 4 processors/cores!

* Features in each CoreAVC Edition is subject to change.
that has to be a joke. man, guys i supported you from day one and this is what i get? i can not reinstall my pc without hastle and features get removed... WOW

[Sharktooth]

Have you got 4 CPU/Cores or are you planning to have them?

[Malow]

no trial version? :mad:

[Sharktooth]

Seems the trial version donwload button is not yet linked... so, guess what?

[Hans Ohlo]

Have you got 4 CPU/Cores or are you planning to have them?
as a matter of fact... yes. my issue is not that i totally need 4 cores to handle avc streams. it is the fact how corecodec handles their customers. (yes i allready wrote a mail directly to them).

[f@chance]

Quote of the day

i think this release is clearly dedicated to the new registration-system...

[wiak]

as a matter of fact... yes. my issue is not that i totally need 4 cores to handle avc streams. it is the fact how corecodec handles their customers. (yes i allready wrote a mail directly to them).

as long the readme.txt has been up it has allways sad that it has 2 cores/ 2 singel-cpu smp no more or less on the pro version


CoreAVC™ Professional Edition Decoder
- H.264 Baseline, Main, High profile support
- Interlaced support (PAFF and MBAFF)
- SMP (multi-core CPU) support (limit 2)
- GPU support*

[Thunderbolt8]

You can buy CoreAVC 1.2 on www.coreavc.com (not coreavc.corecodec.com, this sub-domain has to be redirected i think)

Edit: Sirber beats me.. :)

no, i cant. theres only coreavc 1.1 there.

[cacepi]

I'm too tired to laugh ;-).... Last thing we are now doing for Jarod is checking for site spelling errors (I am still sure he'll find a few i'll miss).He missed a few.

From the Company section:

"Founded in 2002, CoreCodec, Inc. is [?] privately held corporation whos focus is on Audio and Video Multimedia Technology."

SDK Licensing:

"CoreCodec offers pricing for licensing the source code for CoreAVC within it's SDK (Software Development Kit) for third party H.264 playback integration."

"after the evaluator/licensee completes a non disclosure, software evaluation agreements and answers a licensing questionaire."

And why does the bottom of the page say "This Category is currently empty "?

Just trying to help!

[Disabled]

as long the readme.txt has been up it has allways sad that it has 2 cores/ 2 singel-cpu smp no more or less on the pro version

Well I have a readme stating:
Version 1.1.0.5
[...]
CoreAVC. Professional Edition Decoder
- Baseline, Main, High profile support
- Interlaced support (PAFF and MBAFF)
- SMP (multi-core CPU) support (limit 4)
- GPU support*
*edit*
This statement was included in the decoder archive since V1.0.0.0

[Hans Ohlo]

*edit*
This statement was included in the decoder archive since V1.0.0.0
exactly. i am so pissed right now because i installed the decoder at my working place because i was eager to test it. no warning, now message where i had to agree with the online activation. so now at home i am not able to install the decoder at my media center pc.

[Disabled]

exactly. i am so pissed right now because i installed the decoder at my working place because i was eager to test it. no warning, now message where i had to agree with the online activation. so now at home i am not able to install the decoder at my media center pc.

I read somewhere that you can just download the file again and activate the new download. That would still stop illegal distribution and thus might be possible but would give you the option to reinstall it as often as you want.
I can confirm that the .ax has some bytes changed everytime you redownload the installer... I did not install the new version yet, as I'm still not trusting the new activation. And with no speed improvements (as reported by JFu) and no others advantages for me I'll keep running 1.1.0.5.

[oddball]

Help! I just purchased 1.2 pro version and when it forwards me to portal.coreforge.org I get this error.

"A serious error has occurred.Duplicate entry '1825' for key 1"

[Inventive Software]

Congratulations CoreCodec on the launch. You've managed to piss some people off (those who haven't read the whole thread no doubt), but others (JohnnyFu for example) have had no problems, so it's a little hit and miss. I'll wait a few months before purchasing for you lot to iron out the bugs in your systems. ;)

[oddball]

OK the page loaded and asked for me to register. I entered my details and now it wants a 16 digit registration number. I have not even got the software yet!

Nothing in my email inbox either!

[Jay Bee]

Can't confirm that. I recorded the cpu usage using perfmon on two different video files. Each test has passed three times and i then calculated an avarage value.


I can see one or two peaks in your graphs where the new version stays a few percent under the old one. :) But yeah, I guess I was just trying to look for something positive in this release. As it stands the release highlight really is the online activation. And after seeing a lot of the negativity here and at the CoreAVC forums I think Core have to seriously rethink their plans. I mean if they can't convince the doom9 people that their decoder is worth the hassle then how are they ever going to be successful anywhere else?

[AmbKosh]

Great. I'm also receiving the "A serious error has occurred.Duplicate entry '1828' for key 1" Message after I payed via PayPal.
OK. Now after I reloaded the page I'm at the same point as oddball. What is my 16-digit number? Where can I get it?

BetaBoy: What can I do now?

[JohnnyFu]

I can see one or two peaks in your graphs where the new version stays a few percent under the old one. :)

This is due to imprecise measurement of perfmon unfortunately i don't know a more precise way to do such records.

[BetaBoy]

Great. I'm also receiving the "A serious error has occurred.Duplicate entry '1828' for key 1" Message after I payed via PayPal.
OK. Now after I reloaded the page I'm at the same point as oddball. What is my 16-digit number? Where can I get it?

BetaBoy: What can I do now?
Copy and paste it to me and tell me how you got the error... betaboy@corecodec.com

[Disabled]

@BetaBoy
I'll stop ranting about activation for a moment and just ask you to tell us how activation works, what it is sending, how can we activate it with offline computers, what we are allowed to do and what we are not and everything else we should know.
I don't wanna find out the hard way I can only activate it once or such.
*edit*
Why do I have a calculator and a clock in the CoreAccount "My Webpage"?

[BetaBoy]

Jay Bee... or testing shows at the very least a 1% increase but as high as 5% on some files (stick with the low-end on average)

[AmbKosh]

Copy and paste it to me and tell me how you got the error... betaboy@corecodec.com

I just sent you an email with the description and the activation link which failed for me.

Thanks for you help.