CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC" [Archive] - Page 42

Hans Ohlo

16th November 2006, 20:29

I read somewhere that you can just download the file again and activate the new download. That would still stop illegal distribution and thus might be possible but would give you the option to reinstall it as often as you want.
nope not working.

i understand the illegal use thing, but why should i buy 2 copies if i just want to use it on two machines but only on one at a time...

oddball

16th November 2006, 20:29

I've also just emailed you the activation link that failed. This is very frustrating.

JohnnyFu

16th November 2006, 20:31

or testing shows at the very least a 1% increase but as high as 5% on some files (stick with the low-end on average)

Yes there is a little (about 0.5% to 1%) improvement on the Planet Earth movie i have tested.
I will test more video files tomorrow.

For those who are interessted i attached the excel sheet from the screens i posted before in this thread.

Edit: can someone translate or write "(stick with the low-end on average)" with other words for me ?

Disabled

16th November 2006, 20:37

nope not working.

Ok, so this thing has a more strict activation than every other software I know of... Great!

i understand the illegal use thing, but why should i buy 2 copies if i just want to use it on two machines but only on one at a time...
I agree with you somehow. But the MPEG LA is forcing you to buy two licences for two installed decoders too. So I can somehow understand if core would not allow this use. Usually you can install it anyway, as you can activate normal software more than once, but that does not imply that its legal to use it on two machines.

IMHO it shoud be legal, to have the installer on both machines and deinstall it every time you shut down your computer and install it on every start... (assuming you have just one computer running at a time)

oddball

16th November 2006, 20:40

P.S. raising a ticket on the portal site does not seem to work properly in Seamonkey but that's probably because I use Multizilla for tabbing in it and Adblock. The product type selection pops up in a new tab and the javascript fails when I click on any product. It does nothing and I am unable to select the product type in the previous tab. Better to have a drop down box for that anyhow.

Malow

16th November 2006, 20:45

-Surprisingly x264 interlaced and Elecard/Mainconcept MBAFF still don't work. I hope there will be a quick fix for this.

ow, great.. so much waiting for nothing... trial download not ready yet... so i can't even test it also... "little" disappointing... :(

Jay Bee

16th November 2006, 20:51

Jay Bee... or testing shows at the very least a 1% increase but as high as 5% on some files (stick with the low-end on average)

Hehe, exactly the numbers I mentioned further up after looking at a few perfmon graphs.

Another thing: I wanted to log-in again to the page linked in the email to have a look around the new site. When I click on "Sign In" a download window of the CoreAVC exe pops up and I can't get into the site. There's a trick for me to get in though: enter a wrong password! :scared:

oddball

16th November 2006, 20:52

Ridiculous. You would have thought they would beta test their registration system and website before going live.

Dregelmyller

16th November 2006, 20:59

I purchased it today but have not received any code or installer,
the whole process seems kind of complicated.

I registered a core account and it askes for a ID number.

What am i supposed to do ? :)

AmbKosh

16th November 2006, 21:02

What am i supposed to do ? :)

Dregelmyller: put you name on the waiting list and take you place in the queue behine oddball and me... ;)

oddball

16th November 2006, 21:08

Do a little dance. Make a little love. Get down tonight!

Dregelmyller

16th November 2006, 21:29

Dregelmyller: put you name on the waiting list and take you place in the queue behine oddball and me... ;)

Hehe, owell it feels good i am not the only one :P

BetaBoy

16th November 2006, 21:36

@BetaBoy
I'll stop ranting about activation for a moment and just ask you to tell us how activation works, what it is sending, how can we activate it with offline computers, what we are allowed to do and what we are not and everything else we should know.
I don't wanna find out the hard way I can only activate it once or such.

We are adding offline registration within your Core Account... you simply populate the info and it compiles an installer for you... We are working on that now.

smok3

16th November 2006, 21:43

so my coreavc workflow for today was;

delete the old install > get the new version > install the new version > visit recycle bin :)

Disabled

16th November 2006, 21:45

Just found something about the activation in the corecodec forums from BetaBoy
- Activation occurs during the install process
- The registration is linked to your Core Account
- The registration is linked to your Windows OS

Downloads and updates will be available as 'self-serve' from your Core Account. For those that mentioned 'offline registration' or for those behind a strict firewall... Your Core Account will have an offline availability mode to download an installer compiled JUST for your OS.
http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3491.msg20913#msg20913

*edit*
We are adding offline registration within your Core Account... you simply populate the info and it compiles an installer for you... We are working on that now.
Well thanks for the info, but could you please tell me what infos youre thinking about?
And can you please tell me if I am allowed to reinstall my Windows and still be able to activate CoreAVC? And all the other questions that still arrise here?

Dregelmyller

16th November 2006, 21:56

I am also interested in knowing what happens after reformat,
if i buy Vista or buy new hardware.

oddball

16th November 2006, 21:58

Erm. So when can I expect to recieve the goods I paid for? I have sent the relevant details. All I need is a download link and reg number. Is it really that hard to do?

BetaBoy

16th November 2006, 22:06

ow, great.. so much waiting for nothing... trial download not ready yet... so i can't even test it also... "little" disappointing... :(

Malow... Trial is on the todo for a few hours.

BetaBoy

16th November 2006, 22:08

Just found something about the activation in the corecodec forums from BetaBoy

http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3491.msg20913#msg20913

*edit*

Well thanks for the info, but could you please tell me what infos youre thinking about?
And can you please tell me if I am allowed to reinstall my Windows and still be able to activate CoreAVC? And all the other questions that still arrise here?

Reinstallation will work with the same installer your downloaded no problem.

BetaBoy

16th November 2006, 22:10

Erm. So when can I expect to recieve the goods I paid for? I have sent the relevant details. All I need is a download link and reg number. Is it really that hard to do?

oddball... PM me the email address you purchased it with and i'll take care of it for you.

Sirber

16th November 2006, 22:11

Changes from 1.1 to 1.2:
* $20 now $15
* SMP on 4 CPU now 2 CPU
* no limit/activation now max 1 machine

feels like I've been screwed (bought 1.1).

BetaBoy

16th November 2006, 22:13

The reason SMP changed is a limit of the current code.... once completed we will change it to a higher limit again... its just a matter of being upfront of the current limitation.

DigitalDeviant

16th November 2006, 23:24

Ok, here is what I've been getting since 9am EST:

Unable to obtain serial number
from remote server. Please contact CoreCodec.Sales@gmail.com

I emailed the address right away and opened a ticket from my account. Danny emailed me back right away telling me to disable my firewall and run a tracerout. I did both and emailed him that neither seemed to be the cause.

Now there is another item appearing in my account with a new download link. The new link just takes me to a page that says "Error" and nothing else. I emailed a second reply a couple hours ago and still haven't heard anything.

Romario

16th November 2006, 23:51

That's strange. It's a very clear proof that CoreCodec is a foolish company. Their support to the customers is very bad.

I tried to download trial version, but nothing happens.

DeepBeepMeep

16th November 2006, 23:53

The reason SMP changed is a limit of the current code.... once completed we will change it to a higher limit again... its just a matter of being upfront of the current limitation.

So why not don't you add a "* future support for 4 cores" instead of giving us the feeling that the license for product has changed. It would not shock anyone since the "*" is already used to announce GPU support...

Well, I must say I am quite disapointed with this release. I think you should not be surprised when you have created such high expections.

It doesn't look you have been working on the decoder all this time. It seems more you have spent creating your very popular activation system and working on some other projects.

The activation system would not be such a big deal if it didn't look like spyware: no information about its existence is mentioned. No warning is given when it calls home. In fact, I still don't have any clue which personal information of mine has been sent to your server. And ovbiously given the repeated questions of other people here you are not going to answer that question.

In fact wht I regret the most is the "yes" attitude giving us wrongly the feeling that you have been listening to bug reports:
- Where is the support for interlaced Elecard and x264?
- Where did you fix the black level problem ? the black is still grey in overlay and VMR9 and requires to use ffdshow to be reduced to a correct level. Which means that if we want to have a decent PQ we must sacrify extra CPU so globally the decoder turns out to be slower.

Oh well, maybe these will be fixed 6 months from now...

f@chance

17th November 2006, 00:22

@BetaBoy

Thanks for addressing my problem NOT. It is almost 12 hours now that I have waited to log into my account because what Dan calls a browser bug. You are kidding right, you tested this bloody registration gizmo long enough to now find out you have a browser bug. 7 hours to get your emails out or we are done and PayPal will have a dispute to process.

Sirber

17th November 2006, 00:25

Source: Naruto E26 (x264, 640x480p)
CPU: AMD64 3000+

VLC: 10 - 15% CPU
MPC + CoreAVC: 8 - 15% CPU
MPC + Nero Decoder: 16 - 25% CPU
MPC + ffdshow: 15 - 20% CPU

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 00:42

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 01:31

For those that have had an issue registering when running the CoreAVC installer... we have identified a DNS issue that we have fixed. Now we need it to propagate.

acidsex

17th November 2006, 02:36

if we purchased previous versions, do we have to pay for the upgrade to 1.2?

Sirber

17th November 2006, 02:56

if we purchased previous versions, do we have to pay for the upgrade to 1.2?no. it's free!!! but need to be activated.

IgorC

17th November 2006, 03:06

Source: Naruto E26 (x264, 640x480p)
CPU: AMD64 3000+

VLC: 10 - 15% CPU
MPC + CoreAVC: 8 - 15% CPU
MPC + Nero Decoder: 16 - 25% CPU
MPC + ffdshow: 15 - 20% CPU
But for different resolutions and bitrates there are different performances.
While VLC decodes only low resolution and bitrates it is fast. When bitrates and/or resolution increase CPU usage grow without proportions comparing to other decoders. Maybe cabac and deblock aren't enough optimizied.

oddball

17th November 2006, 03:43

Still waiting for the software and regkey. How many people have emailed you? I can't believe it takes this long. Unless you are swamped by unhappy customers.

Shinigami-Sama

17th November 2006, 04:55

Still waiting for the software and regkey. How many people have emailed you? I can't believe it takes this long. Unless you are swamped by unhappy customers.

core is very small man
its not like a huge mega company or anything
last I seen there was less than 40 people, most of them deal with coding
so go take a chill pill
we're all adults here..

Ginsonic

17th November 2006, 07:06

Also waiting for my update notification. But I understand, that Core team has much work now and I will have further patience !

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 08:56

Also waiting for my update notification. But I understand, that Core team has much work now and I will have further patience !

Thx...... we are knocking out most of the small issues. It seems the biggest one is the DNS issue. This we have no control over and we just need the changes to propagate over the next 48 hours.

Ginsonic

17th November 2006, 09:04

It seems the biggest one is the DNS issue
I just noticed, when opening coreavc.com !

f@chance

17th November 2006, 09:15

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 09:44

Can someone send me a sample of the Deinterlacing of interlaced x264 and Elecard MBAFF files that doesn't work... keep it under 4MB email it to betaboy@corecodec.com

Thx!

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 09:46

@Betaboy

You had 9 hours to knock out an email and it is now 20 hours since I could not EVEN log into my account much less download the product.

Considere we are done. Dispute raised with PayPal. If this is the shape of things to come I will get the processor to handle h.264 and forget CoreAVC.

f@chance... I am addressing your issue as we speak. It looks like you should be able to login to your account from here. PM me and i'll give you more details.

Ginsonic

17th November 2006, 09:59

BetaBoy, BTW when adressing issues: Yesterday I sent You a second email containing a PDF with all PayPal transaction details from June, in case this can help to find my payment in Your system.

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 10:46

BetaBoy, BTW when adressing issues: Yesterday I sent You a second email containing a PDF with all PayPal transaction details from June, in case this can help to find my payment in Your system.
Thx... got it...

foxyshadis

17th November 2006, 11:19

Man, Core has these issues every time they release a product, thanks to thousands of people rushing onto the site, and hundreds sending queries and support requests. This is what you get for getting the product the hour of release, especially since it's a whole new site. Most companies have these kinds of problems when they roll out a new anticipated product, or a new website, let alone both. I don't see how you can condemn the company so unilaterally because it's taking a few hours to answer problems, oddball, and it won't help you get support much faster. A few days, that's when it starts getting rediculous.

The DNS isn't working right for me, but then, my ISP is terribly slow at updating.

BetaBoy, you might want to put CoreCodec.com in your sig, since .org is a totally different site and it's not obvious how to get to the pay site from there.

I'd also like to hear the plans for moving activations, once you have breathing time.

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 11:33

We are adding alot of 'self-serve' components... as we go. I'll also change my sig next week once we bring up the new CoreCodec.com and take down CoreCorec.org and migrate all the projects to CoreForge.org

HookedOnTV

17th November 2006, 15:41

New version fixed the MCE2005 freeze after stop issue.

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 15:44

JohnnyFu

17th November 2006, 16:03

Hey guys,

I have tested another two videos and finally measured a speed improvment.

the_greatest_game_ever_played from nerodigital.com, results equal
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/coreavc_4.png
And here.... (2 minute sequence from BBC HD Torchwood episode 1) a slight but free of doubt measurable speed improvment.
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/coreavc_3.png

excel sheet attached

BetaBoy

17th November 2006, 16:07

Thats one of the files I tested against and got similar percentage results...

JohnnyFu

17th November 2006, 16:28

You talking about bbc torchwood right ? Have you recorded the whole episode, or just a sequence too ?

OT: your new avatar... you are the knight rider, right ?

Watch out for Betaboy !
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/betaboy_2.jpg

pankov

17th November 2006, 16:34

We see what alot of ppl are doing now... do NOT use the old services ID and password. As the upgrade email indicates this is a new system...

1 - Create a new ID /Password
2 - Log into your Core Account
3 - Click the email that was originally sent to you

Once logged in you will see a link to 'MY PURCHASES'. Click that link and then your order #. You will then see a download link on the right side.
I did that and I did see the link but while searching for the original mail I accidentally closed the browser window. After I opened the site again I can't find the place to enter my order #. I see "My Home Page > Home" and Sales and Support and preferences and other but no "My Purchases"
:(
What am I missing here?