CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC"

[Yoshiyuki Blade]

Thanks. Just ordered and installed the client. Everything appears to be working fine.

[BetaBoy]

Correct, we have an affiliate program in place. However the rate will be 15% for 2.0.

The Affiliate Program is now live at a 15% commission rate.
https://customers.corecodec.com

We have added the ability to directly link to the purchase page to maximize conversion. If you log in to your affiliate panel, at the bottom, you will now see a "Affiliate links" section. This will include a link you can use to directly add the purchase to cart. You can activate your account by logging into your account and clicking the top 'Affiliates' tab and then agree to the notification.

If you have any questions, or any specific issues, feel free to contact me.

[BetaBoy]

We are still in the middle of changes.... that one is next.

Done.... thx for the report.

[blubberbirne]

When will the eMail send to people who buy coreavc for more than one year???

[BetaBoy]

When will the eMail send to people who buy coreavc for more than one year???
For all users, yes.

[sneaker_ger]

sneaker_ger... your points had been discussed 100+ pages back and we have taken the steps in notify what is and is not. In fact we have done this since the first day it was sold.

I have linked a past version of your website above listing CoreAVCs features - and there's no asterisk or any mention of any limitations on High profile support. The same goes for your start post in this very thread.

Then we have this post by you:
1.x is also fully spec compliant against the features that are included.... there are many features not supported in both CoreAVC and x264 that are being added,

Yet your feature limitation page only lists "FMO" and "multi-dupe WeightP". (+ the profiles not supported)

That leads me to the conclusion that you just lied to me. Don't do that because you're now making me angry. I don't know if you are willing to clarify and/or apologize but I suggest you to at least answer Disabled's question.

[zn]

In case you all did not notice..... Haali has posted the new splitter now that is included in CoreAVC 2.0: http://haali.su/mkv/

1.9.355.21 correct? file is dated as 14th November, but website tells us 19th December

[clsid]

14th November is the production date. 19th December the official public release date.

[JohnnyFu]

Betaboy, are you guys still pushing the mails out? I have no mail until yet.

[hajj_3]

is there going to be a trial released of 2.0? Wouldn't mind trying it on my sisters older laptop to see if hers can handle 720p 4000bitrate x264 .mkv. Nice to see this out, a nice christmas suprise:)

[BetaBoy]

Betaboy, are you guys still pushing the mails out? I have no mail until yet.

Yes, they are trickling out... and I suspect they will be for the next 6-7 hours.

[BetaBoy]

is there going to be a trial released of 2.0? Wouldn't mind trying it on my sisters older laptop to see if hers can handle 720p 4000bitrate x264 .mkv. Nice to see this out, a nice christmas suprise:)

No trial till January 7th.

[hd1080]

.... Thx to Mans for his kick ass work on ARM NEON Cortex A8 which makes CorePlayer rock on the iPhone 3GS.
means this i can play 720p/1080p movies with my iPhone?

[blubberbirne]

I'm still waiting for the email with the download link :(

[JEEB]

I'm still waiting for the email with the download link :(
You should be able to download the app from the customer area after your payment has been checked. No need to wait for an e-mail :)

[BetaBoy]

means this i can play 720p/1080p movies with my iPhone?
Its not 'true' GPU hardware acceleration, but it does help (especially for mobile)

[JohnnyFu]

I'm still waiting for the email with the download link :(

http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc/retrieve

404

[BetaBoy]

You should be able to download the app from the customer area after your payment has been checked. No need to wait for an e-mail :)

You can now for both 2.0 and past customers for 1.9.5. Its just the upgrade emails and free email links that are still going out. As they go out they create/change the account to reflect the upgrade/discount.

[JEEB]

You can now for both 2.0 and past customers for 1.9.5. Its just the upgrade emails and free email links that are going out. As they go out they create/change the account to reflect the change.
Oh yes, forgot completely about the 60-day offer and so on.

[blubberbirne]

You should be able to download the app from the customer area after your payment has been checked. No need to wait for an e-mail :)

i buy coreavc in mid 2008 (i think) and can't do nothink at the moment. i wait for email, nothing happens. this really .....

[BetaBoy]

http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc/retrieve

404

No longer is valid... the customer portal now handles all of that: https://customers.corecodec.com

[JohnnyFu]

No longer is valid... the customer portal now handles all of that: https://customers.corecodec.com

"No client account was found with the email address you entered"

What the frak?

[ranpha]

timecodec tests with a couple of files.

A Blu-ray rip snippet, 1080p, no reencode, straight out from the disc:-


Divx 7.2 (latest available at their site)
User: 7s, kernel: 0s, total: 7s, real: 29s, fps: 295.4, dfps: 74.7
User: 8s, kernel: 0s, total: 8s, real: 30s, fps: 267.7, dfps: 72.1
User: 8s, kernel: 0s, total: 9s, real: 30s, fps: 241.4, dfps: 70.5

ffdshow-mt build 3099
User: 11s, kernel: 0s, total: 11s, real: 37s, fps: 189.2, dfps: 58.4
User: 11s, kernel: 0s, total: 11s, real: 36s, fps: 191.5, dfps: 59.1
User: 11s, kernel: 0s, total: 11s, real: 36s, fps: 191.0, dfps: 59.8

MPC-HC (DXVA) build 1249
User: 99s, kernel: 0s, total: 99s, real: 99s, fps: 22.0, dfps: 21.9
User: 99s, kernel: 0s, total: 99s, real: 100s, fps: 22.0, dfps: 21.8
User: 98s, kernel: 0s, total: 98s, real: 99s, fps: 22.1, dfps: 22.0

MPC-HC (no DXVA) build 1249
User: 10s, kernel: 0s, total: 11s, real: 94s, fps: 196.4, dfps: 23.0
User: 10s, kernel: 0s, total: 11s, real: 96s, fps: 189.4, dfps: 22.6
User: 10s, kernel: 0s, total: 10s, real: 96s, fps: 200.0, dfps: 22.6

CoreAVC 1.9.5 (no CUDA)
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 6s, real: 27s, fps: 342.3, dfps: 78.9
User: 5s, kernel: 0s, total: 5s, real: 26s, fps: 368.4, dfps: 81.2
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 6s, real: 27s, fps: 353.5, dfps: 80.7

CoreAVC 1.9.5 (CUDA)
User: 9s, kernel: 1s, total: 11s, real: 30s, fps: 191.5, dfps: 70.6
User: 9s, kernel: 2s, total: 11s, real: 30s, fps: 188.9, dfps: 70.6
User: 9s, kernel: 2s, total: 11s, real: 30s, fps: 188.4, dfps: 70.6

CoreAVC 2 (no CUDA)
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 6s, real: 26s, fps: 344.8, dfps: 81.7
User: 5s, kernel: 0s, total: 5s, real: 26s, fps: 370.4, dfps: 81.3
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 6s, real: 26s, fps: 328.6, dfps: 83.8

CoreAVC 2 (CUDA)
User: 7s, kernel: 1s, total: 8s, real: 29s, fps: 264.6, dfps: 74.2
User: 7s, kernel: 0s, total: 7s, real: 29s, fps: 277.2, dfps: 74.1
User: 7s, kernel: 0s, total: 8s, real: 29s, fps: 269.7, dfps: 74.1

Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder (no DXVA)
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 37s, fps: 13999.9, dfps: 57.9
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 36s, fps: 15555.5, dfps: 59.1
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 36s, fps: 17499.9, dfps: 59.1

DiAVC (latest version from website)
User: 7s, kernel: 0s, total: 7s, real: 25s, fps: 275.0, dfps: 86.6
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 7s, real: 25s, fps: 309.7, dfps: 87.3
User: 7s, kernel: 0s, total: 7s, real: 25s, fps: 281.7, dfps: 86.5



A Blu-ray snippet reencode, 1080p, very high bitrate, Blu-ray DXVA-compatible:-


Divx 7.2 (latest available at their site)
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 16s, fps: 212.3, dfps: 40.6
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 231.8, dfps: 41.5
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 230.6, dfps: 40.5

ffdshow-mt build 3099
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 17s, fps: 178.7, dfps: 38.2
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 17s, fps: 168.2, dfps: 38.4
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 17s, fps: 182.5, dfps: 38.3

MPC-HC (DXVA) build 1249
User: 62s, kernel: 0s, total: 62s, real: 62s, fps: 10.7, dfps: 10.7
User: 62s, kernel: 0s, total: 62s, real: 62s, fps: 10.7, dfps: 10.6
User: 62s, kernel: 0s, total: 62s, real: 63s, fps: 10.7, dfps: 10.6

MPC-HC (no DXVA) build 1249
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 53s, fps: 174.3, dfps: 12.6
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 53s, fps: 177.9, dfps: 12.5
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 53s, fps: 172.9, dfps: 12.6

CoreAVC 1.9.5 (no CUDA)
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 250.8, dfps: 40.6
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 250.8, dfps: 40.6
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 230.6, dfps: 40.0

CoreAVC 1.9.5 (CUDA)
User: 4s, kernel: 0s, total: 5s, real: 22s, fps: 131.5, dfps: 29.4
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 22s, fps: 147.9, dfps: 29.4
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 22s, fps: 142.9, dfps: 29.4

CoreAVC 2 (no CUDA)
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 17s, fps: 268.0, dfps: 39.2
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 16s, fps: 225.7, dfps: 40.1
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 17s, fps: 238.2, dfps: 38.8

CoreAVC 2 (CUDA)
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 22s, fps: 197.6, dfps: 29.6
User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 22s, fps: 195.8, dfps: 29.6
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 22s, fps: 214.4, dfps: 29.6

Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder (no DXVA)
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 20s, fps: 10721.1, dfps: 32.8
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 21s, fps: 7147.4, dfps: 31.7
User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 20s, fps: 5360.5, dfps: 33.3

DiAVC (latest version from website)
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 14s, fps: 236.9, dfps: 46.9
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 14s, fps: 268.0, dfps: 46.7
User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 14s, fps: 261.5, dfps: 46.7


System: Windows 7 x64, Phenom X4 9500, 4GB RAM, nVidia GT220 1GB with 191.07 drivers.

[Mixer73]

- First on Windows 7..... Both CoreAVC and Haali's splitter now use a custom fourcc so that when you play an MKV video it uses Directshow instead of MediaFoundation in WMP and MC. No hacks and its a simple solution to gets ppl out of the pitfalls of MF. Note that this is ONLY for .mkv and does not affect any other container.

Awesome release, thanks for all the hard work.

Can I please clarify the above. I'm using Windows 7MCE and I archive all my content in PS3/DXVA compatible h.264, MP4 container, does the above mean I won't be able to use CoreAVC for my system at all? Or does it just mean I will have to do trickery to get the merit sorted?

Apologies for the newb question, as yet I have not changed anything on the 7MCE system.

[BetaBoy]

IF when you want... you can simply rename the .mp4 videos to .mkv and it will work with CoreAVC/Haali.

[JohnnyFu]

Betaboy, I have not received an email link and I can't logon to your customer system to access my download/serial.

"No client account was found with the email address you entered"

[blubberbirne]

"No client account was found with the email address you entered"

What the frak?

same here :devil:

[BetaBoy]

Emails are still going out.... this is why I mentioned earlier that your account is modified/activated when the email is sent. But we think we can go even one better by adding an 'addon' to each of those accounts. We are looking into it now.

[BetaBoy]

All.... I know I have a bunch of PM's in my account... I'll get to them once we get through tonight/tomorrow AM. Thanx for being patient.

[lych_necross]

Thanks BetaBoy and the rest of CoreCodec! I just bought my copy and it's working fine on my system. Ignore the haters and keep up the good work. :)

[puffpio]

i just bought a copy and installed it woohoo...
notices some slowdowns playing 1080p...and i think it may be my system is not fast enough?
mobile core2duo @ 2ghz
mpc-hc 64bit build 1424, haali media splitter, coreavc 2, haali renderer

thanks for any info

[Sharc]

With version 2.0 the former --weightp issues (blocks) of 1.9.5 are solved, according to my tests.

[Mixer73]

IF when you want... you can simply rename the .mp4 videos to .mkv and it will work with CoreAVC/Haali.

With perhaps thousands of files this isn't practical, is there a way I could do the same through the registry?

[DigitalDeviant]

I'm still waiting for my upgrade link.

[hippoth]

Same here. I have bought CoreAVC april 2006 and did not get any mail and I can´t login --> "No client account was found with the email address you entered"

[blubberbirne]

This is sad. People who buy CoreAVC at the beginning are still waiting. New buyer are still happy

[the_corona]

Hmm, so seems DiAVC > CoreAVC > Divx (and sometimes DivX/CoreAVC are reversed or very close).

Whats interesting is that DiAVC supposedly has alot more optimizations left which will come in the beta.

Can someone test on a dual core machine (or simply only give timecodec 2 cores)? My HTPC is a Yonah so personally such results would help me the most (hint CoreAVC just release the trial and people can test themselves....I don't get it)

[clsid]

With perhaps thousands of files this isn't practical, is there a way I could do the same through the registry?Next version of my Win7DSFilterTweaker tool should be able to assist you with bypassing the evil MS stuff ;)

[BetaBoy]

Hmm, so seems DiAVC > CoreAVC > Divx (and sometimes DivX/CoreAVC are reversed or very close).

Whats interesting is that DiAVC supposedly has alot more optimizations left which will come in the beta.

Please keep it on-topic... but to your point... remember this is our 'first' optimizations release. While DiAVC has been doing opts for months now... you can only tweak so much till as DS says you code to match a 'specific' encoder.

[BetaBoy]

Next version of my Win7DSFilterTweaker tool should be able to assist you with bypassing the evil MS stuff ;)

Yeah... we have been thinking about an option to treat other containers as .mkv but I think its out of the scope of what 'we' should do.

[the_corona]

Please keep it on-topic... but to your point... remember this is our 'first' optimizations release. While DiAVC has been doing opts for months now... you can only tweak so much till as DS says you code to match a 'specific' encoder.

Is simply everything thats not praising CoreAVC "off-topic"?

Seriously, how is it not on topic to talk about CoreAVC performance in the CoreAVC thread. I mean come on...

We only have very few benchmark results, and these are my impressions. Are they wrong?

<stupid rant>Yeah yeah, I'm sure your next "optimization release" will blow us all away....in 2014 ..... after buying yet another license.</stupid rant>

[Cyber-Mav]

DiAVC has been doing opts for months now...

if your not happy with that then maybe you can get a court injuction placed on diavc to stop them from doing these optimisations if its hurting your business?

seriously betaboy i was expecting you to be more mature about this. i can see now why dark shikari left out the diavc tests in his performance benchmarks since it would have a negative impact on coreavc sales, not surprising since dark shikari and corecodec have "teamed up" so to speak.

also its pointless saying that this is your first release with speed optimisations, by the time the second release is done everyone will be using quad core cpu;s even on laptops.

all this talk is on topic since it is about coreavc and its performance. no one is crapping on the release here, they are just voicing thier opinions and first hand experience of the new codec you have just released.

for me the key reason i purchased coreavc 1.9.0 is because of the CUDA support and that was money well spent in my eyes.

[Dark Shikari]

seriously betaboy i was expecting you to be more mature about this. i can see now why dark shikari left out the diavc tests in his performance benchmarks since it would have a negative impact on coreavc sales, not surprising since dark shikari and corecodec have "teamed up" so to speak.How am I supposed to bench a codec that doesn't work on my computer? I use Windows 7 64-bit and DiAVC doesn't support it yet. :rolleyes:

I explicitly went out of my way to try to include DiAVC but it didn't work, so obviously I couldn't include it in the results.

[honai]

I hope we can all agree that competition is a good thing. Without the pressure from past and prospective customers I don't think CoreAVC 2.0 would include that much bug fixes and improvements as it does know.

Having said that, without a freely downloadable trial I'm going to refrain from purchasing upgrades for my 5 licenses for the time being.

[BetaBoy]

I hope we can all agree that competition is a good thing. Without the pressure from past and prospective customers I don't think CoreAVC 2.0 would include that much bug fixes and improvements as it does know.
Without a doubt competition is great... always will be. There is tons of space in H.264 space and it's just a small part of what we are doing here overall, and we are very grateful for our customers and commercial partners.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

How am I supposed to bench a codec that doesn't work on my computer? I use Windows 7 64-bit and DiAVC doesn't support it yet. :rolleyes:

Does work here. Windows 7, 64-Bit, latest DiAVC Alpha. Also works with TimeCodec :confused:

Here are my results:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1347162&postcount=179

(CoreAVC 2.0 is missing in that comparison, as I don't have access to the 2.0 release of CoreAVC)

[lnatan25]

Just to say, DiAVC works here too, on 64-bit Windows 7.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Just to say, DiAVC works here too, on 64-bit Windows 7.

As older Alpha versions did not work and the developer has updated the Alpha several times without renaming the download, Dark Shikari may be using an old/broken version.

(It also may help to unregister and re-register the filter manually from an Admin console. That did the trick for me at least...)

[the_corona]

DiAVC works for me on Win7 x64 too with MPC-HC 32bit.

Though I have to say the output looks different from other decoders, I'll have to investigate this when I find some time.

[lnatan25]

As older Alpha versions did not work and the developer has updated the Alpha several times without renaming the download, Dark Shikari may be using an old/broken version.

(It also may help to unregister and re-register the filter manually from an Admin console. That did the trick for me at least...)
I just added it as an external codec in KMP. Works very good. It's an alpha, so some bugs here and there, but I was surprised how well it works for such an early release.

To go "off-topic" for a moment (:rolleyes:), I think everyone should wait and see how DiAVC progresses. Beta should be out soon. No point in purchasing one product and then having to purchase a better one later. Just wait a little longer to see where things are headed.