CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC"

[BetaBoy]

You talking about bbc torchwood right ? Have you recorded the whole episode, or just a sequence too ?

OT: your new avatar... you are the knight rider, right ?

Watch out for Betaboy !
http://home.arcor.de/johnnyfu/screen_shots/betaboy_2.jpg

The avatar is a play more or less here in the US... ppl love to 'hate' on the HOFF. I personally love the South Park episode that image was taken from... what a classic.

[Mc Onyx]

I apologize if this has been asked before, but which version will support GPU acceleration?

[oddball]

I still cannot download the software! I clicked on the download link in the portal and all it does is return a webpage with 'Error' at the top. Nothing else!

[BetaBoy]

I did that and I did see the link but while searching for the original mail I accidentally closed the browser window. After I opened the site again I can't find the place to enter my order #. I see "My Home Page > Home" and Sales and Support and preferences and other but no "My Purchases"
:(
What am I missing here?

We are working on the manual method atm...

[Inventive Software]

Ouch! Seems you people are having teething problems. How long ideally should I wait before purchasing IYO Betaboy? I'm generally quite patient...... :D

[oddball]

That method does not work. All that happens is a webpage with 'Error.' is displayed.

[oddball]

Ouch! Seems you people are having teething problems. How long ideally should I wait before purchasing IYO Betaboy? I'm generally quite patient...... :D

Next year.

[BetaBoy]

That method does not work. All that happens is a webpage with 'Error.' is displayed.

OB... PM...

[dk75]

After the "go to frame" positioned frame doesn't decoded, so you need to play and pause picture again :)
GraphEdit, AviSynth and "ImageWriter" function.

[Hans Ohlo]

sorry i have to complain again. but your activation method is he most bad i have ever run into. i installed the update on my work pc to test it. since then i am not able to install it here. why am i not able to reset the pc i want to install it on. i worte a mail and got two answers but till now no reset of the pc.

what happens if i install it and two days later want to give vista a run. do i have to wait a week to get it installed on vista? i mean windows itself can be activated liek 10 times at least before i have to phone to microsoft. but even then it is a matter of minutes to get it running and activated.
what is the matter with your activation scheme?
why can't we decide where to install or move our license?
why should we contact you if we reinstall our systems?
on what system parameters does the activation depend?
why do not give us the rights to change things on our systems?
why should i have to crawl to the cross and confess what i have changed on my system so that corecodec is forgiving and lets me activate my software again?

i see myself trying to explain myself to people that should have no concern what i changed on my system. why should i depend on their judgement to use the software i PAID for? why should i have to wait DAYS after a system change to be able to use the software again i PAID for?

why was i not made aware of the actions taken during install and that i may not be able to switch the software over to another system?

answers please...

[oddball]

I think all the above proves that activation and DRM do only one thing. Penalise the legitimate user.

[Sirber]

I think all the above proves that activation and DRM do only one thing. Penalise the legitimate user.Always been like that. Even the legitimate user wants to get the pirated copy after coz it has less crap.

[fenomeno83]

I can't pay coreavc with my postepay card(registered to paypal)!!!:(

[Zagor]

What a sad, sad, turn of events. I was really looking forward to this release. I had my credit card ready to purchase this version. After reading this thread, the credit card is back in my wallet. Another lost sale due to unreasonable DRM.

[Hans Ohlo]

if i spend the money to scare of at least one potential buyer i think i spend it good. again, i bought it to support corecodec. they did some minor fixes to the decoder and included this abysmal activation scheme which renders the software useless to powerusers (or professionals like in coreAVC professional) which work with their system and from time to time play around with new hardware and software...

[Malow]

owwwkey, the trial link was asking to login, but what login? the forum login? where to register?

ops, the trial link is gone... I'm little lost... again...

[oddball]

Still unable to download it. Looks like I will be following others in raising a Paypal dispute. Sigh....

[Inventive Software]

All the more reason for me to wait till Xmas then. It would be a nice pressie to have decent AVC playback on my Celeron 800.

[fenomeno83]

I want buy coreavc but when I want pay with paypal a message shows that but my card(postepay)isn't accepted!!But with postepay(registarered to paypal)I buy on Ebay!!!Why I can't pay coreavc??

[Px]

Hey guys,

I have tested another two videos and finally measured a speed improvment.
I think that it's more meashurment error, nor speed improvement ;)

[Px]

GraphEdit, AviSynth and "ImageWriter" function.
It's looks like have sex in hammock with gas-mask and scis ;) :D :D :D

[Shinglor]

What a sad, sad, turn of events. I was really looking forward to this release. I had my credit card ready to purchase this version. After reading this thread, the credit card is back in my wallet. Another lost sale due to unreasonable DRM.

That's great for you, but existing customers (like myself) are forced to take the DRM crippled version in order to download bugfixes and promised features (GPU accel.). I don't need a full account management website, exaggered registration processes or even an installer. I don't know the details of the activation process but if CoreAVC servers go down are we still able to install and use CoreAVC?

Here's how it should work: I give CoreAVC my money and they give me a simple DirectShow filter in a zip file (by email or http). It's a decoder, it's not an operating system.

[oddball]

Paypal dispute logged. Sorry but this is beyond ridiculous. I refuse to see why we should suffer your incompetence at being unable to supply the goods we have paid for.

[Zag]

That's great for you, but existing customers (like myself) are forced to take the DRM crippled version in order to download bugfixes and promised features (GPU accel.). I don't need a full account management website, exaggered registration processes or even an installer. I don't know the details of the activation process but if CoreAVC servers go down are we still able to install and use CoreAVC?

Here's how it should work: I give CoreAVC my money and they give me a simple DirectShow filter in a zip file (by email or http). It's a decoder, it's not an operating system.

No, it's not great for me. I really wanted coreavc and now I won't have it and will have to go a different route. The ironic thing is that it is priced just right and I would have seriously doubted piracy would have been much of an issue. Instead now I believe piracy will become an issue due to this draconian DRM and because hackers will be motivated to see who can hack it first. It's a challenge hard to ignore. It just saddens me.

[BetaBoy]

All... as I have stated we are sorry for any delay... we have been manually sending out registrations and its taking a little longer then anticipated even with 3 people working on them.

For those like oddball that cannot wait pls request a refund from PayPal while we iron out the delivery/registration problem. So for now to help us focus... we have suspended the purchasing of CoreAVC while we work on the current registered users.

[Hans Ohlo]

For those like oddball that cannot wait pls request a refund from PayPal while we iron out the delivery/registration problem. So for now to help us focus... we have suspended the purchasing of CoreAVC while we work on the current registered users.
i think thats all we every going to get from corecodec: no comments on the messed up activation.

i honestly need to say that the minute a hacked version appears on the net i will use it. man, i payed for this an am not able to use it correctly.

[JohnnyFu]

I think that it's more meashurment error, nor speed improvement ;)

Nope, it´s definitely not a measurement error. I played alot with perfmon the last weeks. I have done at least 50 test records. The highest measurement differences i found were at maximum 1,5%, so everything in the range of +-0.75% is probable a measurement error. But in this case the biggest difference i found was 2.3%. I mean the results are not 100% accurate, but the improvement is measurable.

[Shinigami-Sama]

All... as I have stated we are sorry for any delay... we have been manually sending out registrations and its taking a little longer then anticipated even with 3 people working on them.

For those like oddball that cannot wait pls request a refund from PayPal while we iron out the delivery/registration problem. So for now to help us focus... we have suspended the purchasing of CoreAVC while we work on the current registered users.

see what happens when you let random people push your schedual?
:P

hope it all works out for ya mate

[BetaBoy]

see what happens when you let random people push your schedual?
:P

hope it all works out for ya mate

Thx... we are getting caught up... by tomorrow morning we will be in alot better shape and then can concentrate on the upgrade requests and the ppl that had upgraded along the way but did not get an email.

[emmel]

Thanks for the update.

There is, however, a problem: Fsecure is not happy at all with the installer (PECompact). Any ideas?

[Inventive Software]

Whatever happened to people using NSIS eh? :D

[CruNcher]

emmel false report ignore it, but that doesn't mean you should allways ignore such warnings :P

[crypto]

This is a farce. On a forum which stands for free media, their own members introduce drm. Can this thread please be closed.

[emmel]

emmel false report ignore it, but that doesn't mean you should allways ignore such warnings :P

Well yes, usually I do ignore such warnings, at least after a cross check with another scanner and negative reports from other users.

This time it is not just the installer Fsecure wants to kill, it also wants to kill the ax whenever it loads and connects to the graph.

Hard to ignore the warning, untill I get renewed signatures and an updated database from Fsecure it self. Or then, I should disactivate the protection while using CoreAVC. And I'm not ready to go that far, given that we are talking about an application that protrecs it self by unknown means.

So, no 1.2.0 for me until Fsecure says ok. Probably not even after that.

bye

[Carpo]

PECompact - is safe to ignore in this instance as this normaly means the installer was compressed using UPX - its a form of compression.

Although only ignore such warnings if its from a trusted source as there are some little nasties about that use upx.

[bob0r]

This is a farce. On a forum which stands for free media, their on members introduce drm. Can this thread please be closed.

We can try to UnDRM CoreAVC also.... so we can keep eachother busy (ofcourse you still need to to buy it to use it)


Note for CoreAVC people:
- 4 or 5 activates PER downloaded file.
- Interlacing to be fixed, but quickly (especially BBC-HD MBAFF), quicker bugfixes in general.
- Better planning in general.
- No more advertising features that will never be aded, or will be added in 2019.
- Multi Core support, going back from 4 to just 2 cores (2 threads?) is really bad, when you have a 4 or more core system.

If those "issues" can be resolved within a reasonable timeline, lets's say 1 day - 1 month, then maybe my respect for the proper coding will return, but as it stands now, i rather buy a $3000 CPU just to decode with ffmpeg.

[dumbas..]

...thanks to thousands of people rushing onto the site, and hundreds sending queries and support requests. This is what you get for getting the product the hour of release, especially since it's a whole new site. Most companies have these kinds of problems when they roll out a new anticipated product, or a new website, let alone both. I don't see how you can condemn the company so unilaterally because it's taking a few hours to answer problems, oddball, and it won't help you get support much faster. A few days, that's when it starts getting ridiculous....

foxyshadis, I quoted this piece of sanity of yours on another board I hope you don't mind....
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Personally, I got my upgrade without issue, delay or problems.
I respect Core for what they produce. And dont get out of my pram when I can't have it NOW!! as some would say here!

[Inventive Software]

Agreed. This is exactly why I'm waiting, and I praise Core for trying to sort the issues, but people whingeing when something doesn't work and lodging complaints instead of asking for help won't get them any further.

And for the non-DRM fanboys: I've said it before, I'll say it again, DRM is here to stay, we just have to live with it and work around the issues. You don't like CoreAVC? Use ffdshow. No plug intended Betaboy. :p

[dk75]

It's looks like have sex in hammock with gas-mask and scis ;) :D :D :D
Maybe, but with this you could save exactly these same frame every time you run it with whatever decoders you use it.

[Disabled]

And for the non-DRM fanboys: I've said it before, I'll say it again, DRM is here to stay, we just have to live with it and work around the issues. You don't like CoreAVC? Use ffdshow. No plug intended Betaboy. :p
Well Nuclear Weapons are here to stay, we just have to live with it. [Unfortunately I didn't come up with something more stupid]
I see two different movements in the software world: One is going drm and securing everything, the other is going open source...

@BetaBoy
I still would like to know what we are allowed to do with our "right to use the software". How do reinstallations work? What data gets send to you? I don't want my Windows key get transfered to you and such... And please! integrate a warning message, that the software needs activation!

[Romario]

This is a farce. On a forum which stands for free media, their own members introduce drm. Can this thread please be closed.

I agree with you, totally. If BetaBoy don't clarify some things about activation, this thread SHOULD be closed.

I also don't want to give him any detail, such as home address, phone number...

[Sharktooth]

I tend to agree with anti-DRM ppl too but i also understand Betaboy and his company try to protect their business and try earn some well deserved money.
If i was in their shoes i would release a free version (with the possibility for the user to donate money if he likes it) with all the pro features for PERSONAL USE ONLY, without support and without activation and other User-pissing(tm) stuff and then the COMMERCIAL versions at a higher price.
Im a supporter of the "closed source but free" programs for the home user (like the opera browser or free antiviruses/antispyware, free divx codec, etc...).
The home user has already too much money and time to spend for the hardware and the indispensable softwares (thanks to the dumb companies that sell those software at impossible prices and dont understand the end user usually pirate it for money reasons or just for all the annoying license restrictions and agreements written in cryptographic language) he cant stand an increasingly outcome for every small but usefull softwares. Yes, there are free alternatives that sometimes are even better than commercial softwares, but sometimes he has no choice... and he has no unlimited funds...

[Ginsonic]

BetaBoy: My patience is almost exhausted ;)
Still waiting for my update email !

[f@chance]

To anyone that is considering this product here is my story.

After Paypal confirmation I was redirected to the registration page. After registering nothing happened except the entry fields were cleared. No confirmation of successful registration no email no NOTHING.

When trying to login into my account it says invalid user or wrong password. When trying to register it says this email address is in use.

This was on the day when v. 1.2 was released. I fired off a few emails explain the situation. The reply was that they had a browser failure and try to login again.

HELLO I can't because I have no valid account. SO again email to explain my situation. I received detailed information on how to log in and click on the download link. The density of CoreAVC support is unsurpassed.

Further explanation and repeat explanation from past email correspondence. This time instructions of a differentkind of login AND click on the link that we send you informing you of the update.

HELLO I am a first time user with version 1.2 Since the day of the release of v 1.2 I have gotten no further with CoreAVC support then a login page that tells me of invalid user registration details.

To all those that post here the BS about CoreAVC being a small company and so forth, they are a business and as a business if they make the decision to implement a disatrous activation scheme for a $15 codec, then they deserve everything that comes with that business decision. They are not in the handout business and if you pay for a product you expect service or the product itself not a long line of excuses and explanations.

Never in my live had I have to deal with such incompetent support that can't get a disastrous roll out fixed.

Off Soapbox and still waiting to download what I paid for almost a week ago.

EDIT:
Just caught up with the posts here and just realized that the problems have just begun with running this piece of software on different partitions or machines. NOT FOR ME Paypal dispute must be escalated to PayPal claim to get your money back. And I will also buy the CPU horsepower to handle the decoding.

[Jay Bee]

About the software activation issue:

I think that without even getting into whether the system is appropriate or unfair or understandable or overkill or whatever I think that Core have been quite short-sighted or naive if they thought they could really introduce DRM without a major backlash from the users.

I mean even if they had the best and fairest activation system ever (which they don't) DRM would still be an issue that pisses lot's of people off, they should have foreseen it, it's no secret, just visit slashdot or google "DRM" to find out what people think about it. What I'm trying to say is that even if in reality DRM wasn't really as bad as its reputation then that wouldn't change the fact that the public opinion of DRM is still what it is and this cannot be a good thing for the business of a small company that caters to an extremely techy crowd.

There are also very practical problems. I for one like to make encodes that are easy for other people to view. Now I can't make an encode that needs CoreAVC for playback and give it to someone and say: now you just need to buy CoreAVC, make sure you have your internet running and your firewall open when you install it and, oh, you will only be able to ever watch it on the same machine that you first installed it to. The reaction would of course be "Err, no thx, can't you make an Xvid or DVD version?".

Now, just to be clear, I don't think Core are in anyway evil or unintelligent and I sure hope they will be able to run a successful business in the future but I think they absolutely have to realize that having more negative than positive reactions in a "fan forum" right after the release of a new version is an event that should be taken seriously. Very seriously. It's not the first time I've seen it and the product I'm thinking of pretty much died shortly after.

[Kurtnoise]

Just my 2€ cents...

Thank you and good luck to CC.com team. You've made great tools. CoreAVC is very powerfull. I use it almost every day for my avc backups. Keep up the good work despite registration issues.

and btw, you know what ? 1€ ~= 1,24919 US$ here. So, move to Europe guys...Life is cheaper. :D

[Dregelmyller]

A question for betaboy.

Has there been any e-mails with the codec sent ppl yet ? becouse my ISPs mailserver has been malfunctioning for 1 & 1/2 day. All e-mails sent to me are gone.

Just want to know so i didnt miss anything..

Seems its easier contacting you here than over mail..

[Romario]

It's very obvious that BetaBoy won't clarify these things about activation.

[Inventive Software]

and btw, you know what ? 1€ ~= 1,24919 US$ here. So, move to Europe guys...Life is cheaper. :D

Even cheaper here in the good ol' United Kingdom! £1 = $1.89!!! So it's around £8 for me! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[oddball]

I have just returned after spending 2 days with my parents and STILL have no software and ZERO response from BetaBoy and ZERO response to my raised tickets. ZERO emails. ZERO response from PayPal too.

ZERO! NOTHING! NADA!

My recommendation is to AVOID this company altogether. I don't care how great your codec is. If you have already paid and have difficulty getting your money back I will not blame you for finding a cracked version when it appears.


This whole thing has been a complete farce from start to finish! I also recommend that when the dust has settled that this thread be closed and any threads about this now DRM infected product be approached with caution by Doom9 members.