CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC" [Archive] - Page 120

Audionut

11th September 2010, 00:13

Audionut... Stop the OT interjection

JF... I love your continued persistence at interjecting OT wisdom ;-)

Really, so others can OT in this thread when you agree with them, but I may not when I post something you don't like.

Pffft.

BetaBoy

11th September 2010, 02:18

Lets just keep it OT. Thank you.

Thunderbolt8

11th September 2010, 04:02

Yes, a software that is called CoreAVC definitely needs VC-1 decoding :rolleyes:
nevertheless, it would be nice to have the ability of multi core vc-1 decoding within the same software ;)

NikosD

15th September 2010, 15:11

@Betaboy
Hello. Since you are working on the DXVA version of CoreAVC, you could take a look at this:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1432980&postcount=1
It includes a procedure to benchmark your DXVA implementation and some carefully chosen H.264 and other clips,that stress hardware decoders and codecs.

Cyber-Mav

17th September 2010, 12:59

when cuda is in use on nvidia cards the blue coreavc icon in the system tray turns green. when dxva is in use for ati cards will the icon turn red?

BetaBoy

18th September 2010, 07:19

Virtual_ManPL

26th September 2010, 11:33

Any chances for fixing this bug in next CoreAVC release ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1390600#post1390600
because using CoreAVC with other splitters (except bugged Haali) is not possible because of this...

ney2x

28th October 2010, 17:12

new forware 261.00 developer driver refers to CUDA.. i hope its good news to CoreAVC

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=331483

mkanet

28th October 2010, 17:41

I'm curious, how this would affect CoreAVC? I would think this would be better news for ffmpeg CUDA support for video encoding. As far as I know, CoreAVC already has CUDA support; unless the new Nvidia drivers would somehow improve CUDA performance in CoreAVC. I actually prefer to offload H.264 decoding to my GPU and leave my CPU for other tasks that my display adapter cant do.

new forware 261.00 developer driver refers to CUDA.. i hope its good news to CoreAVC

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=331483

LigH

29th October 2010, 09:14

Is it really a CUDA decoder program, or just the PureVideo decoder chip used by CoreAVC (like in DGDecNV)? They are not the same...

29th October 2010, 11:19

Is it really a CUDA decoder program, or just the PureVideo decoder chip used by CoreAVC (like in DGDecNV)? They are not the same...

Yep. The only change I see there is that they moved the NVCUVID library (which CoreAVC and other "CUDA" H.264 decoders use) to the CUDA Toolkit. That library is an interface to the PureVideo hardware decoder. There are no functionality changes as far as I can tell.

lych_necross

11th November 2010, 08:34

Will the next version of CoreAVC include a workaround/fix for the open-gop seeking issue?

Octo-puss

12th November 2010, 12:55

next version of CoreAVC
Excuse me? I thougt yetti was an urban legend :P

hajj_3

23rd November 2010, 13:28

we said it would be christmas before a new version of coreavc would be out, we might be right :P

Octo-puss

23rd November 2010, 17:54

This year or the next? Oh wait it was the one before :P

ChronoCross

23rd November 2010, 18:32

This year or the next? Oh wait it was the one before :P

I'm going with 2012. The same time earth comes to an end.

weasel_

25th November 2010, 19:36

Is it really a CUDA decoder program, or just the PureVideo decoder chip used by CoreAVC (like in DGDecNV)? They are not the same...
Just api for PureVideo chip..

hajj_3

10th December 2010, 21:52

Dear Father Christmas,

I have been a very good boy this christmas, please could i have CoreAVC 2.1, it would make me very happy indeed.

Thankyou!

Love hajj_3

madshi

4th January 2011, 21:05

Just received this email from Core:

Thank you for your support of a CoreCodec Technology. With CES about to launch, 2011 looks like it will be our biggest year to date with upcoming releases for:

- CoreMVC 3D MVC Video Decoder (directshow/windows)
- CoreMVC OEM SDK for Android, iOS, Windows, Linux, OS X

- CoreAVC 2.5 with improved performance and new support for DXVA 1, DXVA 2 in Windows
- CoreAVC 2.5 SDK with support for Android, ARM NEON, and faster 64bit performance

- CorePlayer 2.0 Platform Release for Android, iPhone and iPad

We will be demoing all the above products at CES this year (email: info@corecodec.com for info)
@BetaBoy, do you have anything interesting to add? :)

Three questions, if you don't mind:

(1) Do you have an estimated release date for the MVC decoder?
(2) Will Haali update his m2ts splitter to add support for 3D splitting?
(3) Which media type do you plan to use for 3D? Maybe we should finalize the work-in-progress new media type we've been working on... ;)

Thanks!

popper

5th January 2011, 00:15

"CoreAVC 2.5 SDK with support for Android, ARM NEON"

BTW betaboy, if your doing Neon then why dont you have a x264 NEON mentor available for the GSOC code in before it closes ? and so greatly improve the ARM speed ready for the end of CES

BTW theres also a new Freescale i.MX 6 quad ARM Cortex™A9, 1.2GHz, 1MB of L2 cache out
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=IMX6X_SERIES&tid=FSHBNR_20110103
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Freescale-iMX-6/
"..the i.MX 6 series is Freescale's first ARM-based multicore SoC and first Cortex-A9 model. The processor advances the i.MX family with dual-stream 1080p video playback at 60 frames per second (fps), 3D video playback at 50Mbps, desktop-quality gaming, augmented reality applications, and novel content creation capabilities, says Freescale.

The SoC is also touted for being one of the first applications processors to offer hardware support for the open source VP8 codec. VP8 drives the related WebM open container format, both of which are supported in the most recent Android 2.3 release...."
but dont know if any product will be really ready for CES showing it as yet, you might look for it.

Mixer73

5th January 2011, 00:27

Wow wonder why I didn't get the email, I'm a registered user of CoreAVC?

boiled_sugar

5th January 2011, 04:09

AMD finally opened OpenVideo Decode, an API to use their decoder on Radeon GPUs via OpenCL.
Any plan to support it?

7oby

5th January 2011, 09:07

- CoreAVC 2.5 with improved performance and new support for DXVA 1, DXVA 2 in Windows
Is it a free update for purchasers of CoreAVC 2.0?

popper

5th January 2011, 10:17

AMD finally opened OpenVideo Decode, an API to use their decoder on Radeon GPUs via OpenCL.
Any plan to support it?

are you referring to the OVDecode.lib and its h.264 and related video header file as found in the The ATI Stream SDK v2.3 with OpenCL™ 1.1 support Christmas release
http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/downloads/Pages/default.aspx

? if so it may be ok for windows use ,just one more option to decode your video in windows , but it does nothing for linux use as AMD in their usual half assed linux video fashion did include the header files, But Did Not Include the required OVDecode.so in their v2.3-lnx32 package, and No date as to if and when they may add it there.

CiNcH

5th January 2011, 17:09

Let me guess... 1.x and 2.0 licensees have to pay again for 2.5?

iolaus

5th January 2011, 19:05

Let me guess... 1.x and 2.0 licensees have to pay again for 2.5?

In my opinion, the upgrades have been a steal.

ChronoCross

5th January 2011, 22:27

Wow wonder why I didn't get the email, I'm a registered user of CoreAVC?

Wish they had a way to turn off their promo emails. I only want to receive free update emails instead of emails stroking their ego's in a masturbatory manner.

Is it a free update for purchasers of CoreAVC 2.0?

It'll probably cost money since it adds "so many" features.

Let me guess... 1.x and 2.0 licensees have to pay again for 2.5?

see above..... probably.

In my opinion, the upgrades have been a steal.

Not really. It's a peice of software that does one thing. Aside from the mobile platoform it's losing it's significance each day as the processors being included with newer machines can generally handle 1080p content.

Shevek

5th January 2011, 22:52

Not really. It's a peice of software that does one thing. Aside from the mobile platoform it's losing it's significance each day as the processors being included with newer machines can generally handle 1080p content.

My thoughts exactly. I used to use it all the time, but since upgrading to a newer HTPC which has a Radeon HD3200 GPU and AMD dual core CPU I've stopped using it.

It was causing all sorts of stutter and sync problems with 1080p and even 720p content. Uninstalled it and now all my HD content plays in DXVA perfectly

yesgrey

5th January 2011, 23:06

Let me guess... 1.x and 2.0 licensees have to pay again for 2.5?
Yes. With a discount, though.

Mixer73

6th January 2011, 01:20

Yes. With a discount, though.

While I grant that CoreAVC is cheap, I think charging for a dot release when there has not been a single intervening release is a bit crass.

Virtual_ManPL

8th January 2011, 10:59

Any chances for fixing finally this bug in next CoreAVC release ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1390600#post1390600
because using CoreAVC with other splitters (except bugged Haali) is not possible because of this...

me7

8th January 2011, 16:02

Any news on the open-gop bug? I stopped using CoreAVC and reading this thread because of it.

sneaker_ger

8th January 2011, 16:39

The issue won't ever by fixed in the 1.x series, but was fixed in v2.0 long ago. If you own 1.x you have to pay again for 2.0 though.

(While I think CoreAVC is a solid product worth the money, you should also consider the free alternatives)

open gop != multi dupe weighted p prediction. Did you perhaps confuse those two?

LoRd_MuldeR

8th January 2011, 16:40

open gop != multi dupe weighted p prediction. Did you perhaps confuse those two?

Yes, I did. My mistake :o

(Removed the misleading post)

IgorC

8th January 2011, 23:23

Aside from the mobile platoform it's losing it's significance each day as the processors being included with newer machines can generally handle 1080p content.
That is. Mobile devices overcome the desktop ones.
The evolution is more like: desktop -> mobile -> ultra mobile, thin.
Now phones can do 720p and will be able to do 1080p.

It's huge market for CoreCodec. Even bigger than desktop.

CruNcher

9th January 2011, 12:18

Yep especially for the endless low price devices (out of Shenzen) that don't come with Powerfull DSPs (but that don't just want to provide the default PacketVideo stuff in Android) though even on the Software Codec side their is competition and provider from other parts of the World that do very efficient Codec Design like CoreCodec does, but for the Higher Price Platforms you can see that we finally in the Move to high Efficient 1080p DSP solutions, especially in the Tablet World and im not talking only about Tegra 2 btw which most of doom9 users wouldn't like anyway to use ;)

2011 will be a exciting year in terms of High Efficient Low Power Mobile Video :) not all Devices though will provide the bang for the buck and Tegra 2 definitely failed it (where most of doom9ers set the highest expectations into, Tegra 1 failed it last year in the 720p move and now Tegra 2 goes the same way in the 1080p move).

ChronoCross

9th January 2011, 22:27

That is. Mobile devices overcome the desktop ones.
The evolution is more like: desktop -> mobile -> ultra mobile, thin.
Now phones can do 720p and will be able to do 1080p.

It's huge market for CoreCodec. Even bigger than desktop.

It may be a bigger market, however it's a market that will also get far more pissed off if they don't see fixes/releases/enhancements more than once a year.

If they manage their mobile business like they've managed their desktop offering, they are going to become a quick joke in the mobile market.

Barlow

10th January 2011, 14:08

Uhm Betaboy was talking about a TRIAL version afaik.

ranpha

12th January 2011, 19:41

Let me guess... 1.x and 2.0 licensees have to pay again for 2.5?

Just have a confirmation, v2.5 will be free for those with v2.0 licenses.

Mixer73

13th January 2011, 00:12

Just have a confirmation, v2.5 will be free for those with v2.0 licenses.

OK cool, well I retract my prior statement....

ChronoCross

13th January 2011, 03:07

Just have a confirmation, v2.5 will be free for those with v2.0 licenses.

Confirmation from what? The make believe fairy? Hopefully core will send out a email or something to indicate a release date that isn't when I'm old enough to cash in my 401k.

ranpha

13th January 2011, 03:11

Confirmation from what? The make believe fairy? Hopefully core will send out a email or something to indicate a release date that isn't when I'm old enough to cash in my 401k.

http://imgf.tw/926102916.jpg

Also confirmed on their forums BTW.

ChronoCross

13th January 2011, 03:16

http://imgf.tw/926102916.jpg

Also confirmed on their forums BTW.

Will believe it when it actually happens. If you've known corecodec for any length of time (which I have), you know they tend to exaggerate.

For example it's been 1 year since CoreAVC 2.0. The last bugfix release was supposed to come out 6 months ago. That has come and gone without so much as a word. Betaboy is a talker without any real idea of what is going on behind the scenes.

ranpha

13th January 2011, 03:26

dead_screem

13th January 2011, 04:37

Will believe it when it actually happens. If you've known corecodec for any length of time (which I have), you know they tend to exaggerate.

For example it's been 1 year since CoreAVC 2.0. The last bugfix release was supposed to come out 6 months ago. That has come and gone without so much as a word. Betaboy is a talker without any real idea of what is going on behind the scenes.Release schedule has nothing to do with it. The way it's worked in the past was 1.x customers get free updates to all 1.x releases, but will have to pay an upgrade (discount) fee to to get 2.0.
Current 2.x customers will get free updates to all 2.x releases. And it hasn't been stated, but past paractices indicate that 2.x users will have to pay an upgrade fee to get 3.0 whenever that is released.

ChronoCross

14th January 2011, 02:36

So, do you think that the upgrade will not be free? This has nothing to do with their release schedule, but only whether the upgrade is free or not.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think that they will find something to justify charging everyone.

DigitalDeviant

14th January 2011, 02:58

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think that they will find something to justify charging everyone.

Betaboy has already stated on the CoreCodec forums that there will be no charge for 2.0 customers.

http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4167#p15693

Fadeout

14th January 2011, 02:59

Eta?

...

ChronoCross

14th January 2011, 04:08

Betaboy has already stated on the CoreCodec forums that there will be no charge for 2.0 customers.

http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4167#p15693

BetaBoy says a lot of things that aren't true. Like there will be releases in a few weeks, or "it's in QC now". I don't believe a word that guy says on any forums.