CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC"

[BetaBoy]

Next MONTH!?!?!?:eek: :eek:
Why SO LONG????:confused:

Because the demo requires alot of work as well as an automated update process and third party Vendor ID lockin.

[fight2win]

is coreavc paid? is there a free version available?

[ChronoCross]

is coreavc paid? is there a free version available?


did you not READ!!!! It's paid version and the free preview version is not available for another month.

[CEC]

is coreavc paid? is there a free version available?

NO!:(

[Selur]

over here I always get a session timeout at the end of procedure when buying with mastercard over paypal => will try again tomorrow

[Pomyk]

Speed test with 1080p anime (15000 frames) on Athlon X2 @ 2.3Ghz:

v0.4 - 57.53
v1.0 pro - 62.67 (1 core) | 93.69 (2 cores ~90%)

About 9% speed increase using one core.

[tomos]

Dan, any chance to check my mail?

[BetaBoy]

Dan, any chance to check my mail?
no... send it to betaboy@corecodec.com ?

[Ice =A=]

One little thing:
"fix VMR9 color range" needs some cpu time, about the equivalent of 100MHz on an Athlon 64 or Pentium M, at least that's what it did look like to me...
(For those who are looking for every frame. :))

Interestingly I have seen no speed gains, if anything it seemd a little bit slower, especially with activated "fix VMR9 color range".
Any idea about that discrepancy, Pomyk?!?

[tomos]

sent to that one this time. used the hotmail one before :)

[ChronoCross]

@BetaBoy
If you buy a version of the decoder, do you get updates for life? Or will I have to buy a new one each time you guys make changes to it?

[fields_g]

Also, if we get pro version now, and wanted enterprise later, what kind of "trade-in" options are there?

[killerhex]

are you guys developing an encoder

[HookedOnTV]

Our installer is simplistic... and we have worked with Haali on with adding his splitter along with CoreAVC. What will not be done at launch like we had wanted is full support for TS streams. This will come in a future update Haali noted.

Where can we follow the progress on TS support?

[foxyshadis]

The first post should probably be updated with a FAQ, because all these questions have been answered before:

free: haha, no.
encoder: yes, later.
upgrade: price is discounted the amount of your previous purchase, though of course policy might change.
updates: no answer, but see this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=794065&highlight=update#post794065). I assume 1.5 is free and 2.0 is discounted.

[ChronoCross]

I caved and bought it. I'll have to upgrade to the enterprise edition once it comes out as I could like to have all features supported lol.

[MrWizard]

I did as well. I hope I see the speed increases - I'm so close to being able to decode some of my 1080p video on my machine with the alpha. Here's hoping!

[Ice =A=]

@MrWizard:
Please feel free to share your findings concerning decoding speed with us here! :)

[MrWizard]

Of course! I hope to get my copy emailed to me by tonight so I can do some testing :D

[BetaBoy]

Where can we follow the progress on TS support?

I'll ping Haali on it... and let you know.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Where can we follow the progress on TS support? I'll ping Haali on it... and let you know.Sounds like a plan :)


Cheers

[tomos]

Dan, i've mailed you on the addy you specified and the support address on your site but i still havent had a reply yet :(

[ChronoCross]

They are probably a bit busy working on all the requests for the stuff. Be patient. I haven't got mine either. IT'll get done within 12 hours hopefully lol.

[tomos]

prob is Dan mentioned earlier on that my mail had already been sent :(

[BetaBoy]

The first post should probably be updated with a FAQ, because all these questions have been answered before:

free: haha, no.
encoder: yes, later.
upgrade: price is discounted the amount of your previous purchase, though of course policy might change.
updates: no answer, but see this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=794065&highlight=update#post794065). I assume 1.5 is free and 2.0 is discounted.

I was referring to TCPMP with the revision numbers there.... _any_ 1.xx CoreAVC users will be entitled to an upgrade to 2.0 when it comes out.

[BetaBoy]

ok.... we found out what the issue was. Users that did not get an email should get it within the hour. Thanx for the patience guys.

[tomos]

have replied to your mail Dan. anyways have been up for 34 hrs so time to catch some zssss.

[lazyn00b]

BetaBoy, I figured out why I wasn't getting the emails - the download email from cyt0plas was getting blocked by the gmail spam filter and sent to the spam folder. I've got the decoder now and it's working great!

Thanks again,

lazyn00b

[popper]

So it looks like the site is online. The burning question on my (and I'm sure everybody else's) mind is how do I get that discounted price? :devil:

well, a discount might be your mind but not mine, it seems
a fair price for an apparent fastest decoder, what im more interested in is the Encoder, and weather it will be possible to get a single fully functional GUI that runs
on all the muti platforms the CoreAVC Encoder will eventually run on , im hopeing they might discuse with carl
the CEO at http://www.rebol.com/platforms-view.html to use a single GUI script (end-user extendable if required) on at least the x86 and PPC platforms.

i have a question for the Core developers would your code
run from an embeded FPGA such as will be found on the new
Genesi EFIKA v2.0 http://www.ppczone.org/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&p=2497.

they have a freeScale software development platform and a reference design here http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=PPCG40010 but that current V1 system doent have Genesi'
latest options as yet and its unclear weather the
EFIKA v2.0 with the XGI chip equivalent and the Altera FPGA Hardware will also be opened up as a free reference design at this time to their Power.Org partners alongside
the on-going ppczone developers hardware program.

FYI the Altera FPGA is unknown at this time
http://www.ppczone.org/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&p=2509
, but the onboard XGI chip will most likely be V3XT
http://www.xgitech.com/products/products_2.asp?P=8&CTID={5B57D0A3-5D50-435F-B0D2-F28FCA5EF23B}

but that has "High Definition TV-OUT Solution with XV301PAL and NTSC Systems

Composite, S-Video, and Component RGB Output Signals

Macrovision Copy Protection Process Rev. 7.1.L1

HDTV 480i/480p/1080i/720p YPbPr Output Signals

A single link TMDS transmitter with excellent scaling capability for TFT LCD panel display"

if it turns out your Encoder is as efficiant as your decoder and it can infact be
enbeded into an FPGA such as the board above then perhaps your encoder and apps
would compliment the hardware assisted decoding etc.

so perhaps if you were to inform BBRV 'bill buck'
that you might be interested in trying out one of these
boards to see if theres a market for your full product range he may give you one to develop on.

i noticed you replyed that PPC was TBD and that you implyed
that current PPC was 'old' , im trying to let you know there is lots of NEW PPC based hardware coming to market
over the next few years that could well make use of your (or others) products, and give you the heads-up that there is a valid market there for long term paid-for products.

look into it or dont, thats your choice, but it would be a shame to miss such a chance to get on at the ground level now, rather than not and wish you had later, it cant heart to try it and see, if it works out then potentially EVERY
V2 might have your tools as standard (rather than somethng else) and that could be werth much more to you than the initial outlay in time and effort now.

whatever......

[MrWizard]

BetaBoy, I figured out why I wasn't getting the emails - the download email from cyt0plas was getting blocked by the gmail spam filter and sent to the spam folder. I've got the decoder now and it's working great!
Same thing for me. :thanks:

[MrWizard]

Okay, I just finished my first comparison. I'm a little confused with some of the output from Haali's timeCodec app but here is the info:

System Info
Pentium 4 3.0 GHz w/ HT
2.0 GB 533 MHz DDR2 RAM

Clip Info
length 0:02:28
size 106289 KB
res 1920x784

Results
CoreAVC 0.0.0.4 alpha
User: 124s, kernel: 0s, total: 124s, real: 124s, fps: 28.8, dfps: 28.7

CoreAVC 1.0
User: 6s, kernel: 0s, total: 6s, real: 102s, fps: 573.3, dfps: 35.0

ffdshow (2005-12-21 gcc 4.0.2 SSE, no post processing)
User: 206s, kernel: 0s, total: 206s, real: 207s, fps: 17.3, dfps, 17.3

However, I assume the italicized/underlined numbers are the framerates that really matter. And the new version provides even more than the 15% speed increase (for HT) BetaBoy announced. This is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20%. I'm happy :D

[jblade]

Just bought it, have yet to recieve my link.

[tomos]

ok.... we found out what the issue was. Users that did not get an email should get it within the hour. Thanx for the patience guys.

Dan, i still havent had any mails. i dont have a spam filter/folder so not sure whats happening. it's been about 18 hrs now :(

[BlackSun]

However, I assume the italicized/underlined numbers are the framerates that really matter. And the new version provides even more than the 15% speed increase (for HT) BetaBoy announced. This is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20%. I'm happy :D

Thanks for the results, indeed it is very interesting :thanks:

[tomos]

is there anyone else who still hasnt had their download mail yet? it's been over 24 hrs now :(

[Eretria-chan]

I found my link in the bulk after checking again, now. You sure there is no link there?
I tried installing it with no problems. Don't have anything to test with right now, though.

[Sirber]

Does the DShow filter work under mplayer?

[tomos]

I found my link in the bulk after checking again, now. You sure there is no link there?
I tried installing it with no problems. Don't have anything to test with right now, though.

no email at all received apart from a check from Dan to ask if i had an email from carlos. no mails at all received otherwise :(

have mailed their support addy too and no reply from that either. would have though there was a problme between their domain and mine in regards to spam blocks somewhere but i got Dans test mails and his latest direct to me so that cant be it.

[BetaBoy]

Well Cyt0 stated our Mailer Server had a CBL blacklist on it... we have removed it from the blacklist and hope the issue is resolved in a few hours. See:
http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=64.192.171.160

If you have spam filters you may want to check that folder till your local mail server updates its DNS to relist us as ok.

[tomos]

ah ok, never heard that before. dont have spam lists on mine. its my own domain. hopefully it will be sorted later on today then :)

[Pomyk]

Another bug: lossless video doesnt work (professional version)

[Abnormal1]

Does the DShow filter work under mplayer?
I was also wondering this. As it may then work with Xbox Media Centre. I would buy this decoder if it would allow XBMC to decode AVC better.

[BetaBoy]

Another bug: lossless video doesnt work (professional version)
Please be more specific... if you are referring to Predictive Lossless (High 4:4:4 profile) that will be in our Enterprise decoder.

[Sirber]

I was also wondering this. As it may then work with Xbox Media Centre. I would buy this decoder if it would allow XBMC to decode AVC better.Same here, I would buy it to use it with mplayer.

[emmel]

Nice decoder the new CoreAVC Pro.

I only have one question: Is there any tool atm for converting or parsing a (dvb) ts/h264 -recording into a form or mediatype accepted by CoreAVC?

Looking forward to the direct ts support,
emmel

[Pomyk]

Please be more specific... if you are referring to Predictive Lossless (High 4:4:4 profile) that will be in our Enterprise decoder.

Lossless video encoded with x264. I tried different players (mpc, wmp), splitters (haali, mpc), containers (mkv, mp4). When played it's just black screen and stops immediately. When muxed with audio - it plays audio normally and shows just black screen.
It works with libavcodec.
Does anyone else have this problem?

[CEC]

Hey, you must do something with your website "http://coreavc.corecodec.org/"! It is too much LIGHT!!! It doesn't give the confidence that people want to take!!! If you want to sell more give it a better style!!!:sly:

Yes, it might be a good and fast decoder and yes you did a very good advertisment in the video forums, but if you want to have NEW customers who doesn't look the forums? What then???? A light website isn't always the best choice!!! Give it something! (Like: DivX, on2)!!!

[Selur]

is it just me or does the coreavc pro crash if you enable 'Raw Video' and 'Picture properties' in ffdshow ?

[BetaBoy]

Nice decoder the new CoreAVC Pro.

I only have one question: Is there any tool atm for converting or parsing a (dvb) ts/h264 -recording into a form or mediatype accepted by CoreAVC?

Looking forward to the direct ts support,
emmel

emmel... we are trying to rollout an update in a few days based upon some of the few bugs reported. Haali is working on TS support.... no word atm on when it will be ready.

[Episodio1]

CEC, if someone has to based his sales on the webdesign and not in his product itself... i think they have a problem.

Every time I've gone to Divx.com i spent 10secs to know where to read (or click). I had to make a mental map previously to orientate myself. :(

I love simple web-desing: I know where to read/click in one second.