CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC"

[HookedOnTV]

You don't have Cool & Quiet enabled in the bios by any chance ?


It might be. I'll check.

[HookedOnTV]

It was enabled but disabling it made no difference.

Update: Disabling Aero fixed it.

[hdboy]

Please try nero's avc decoder which is multithreaded and DXVA and see how much cpu it uses.

I have nero but I don't see a AVC decoder directshow filter. Is there one? what is the exact name?

[AKarpo]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering what the version # of the current CoreAVC build is...Has 1.3.0.1 been released? Are the major issues fixed?

I noticed some people were having some Vista compatibility problems earlier in the thread; I was thinking about purchasing CoreAVC, but I might wait for GPU support to be added before I take the plunge.

[Ronin-7]

It was enabled but disabling it made no difference.

Update: Disabling Aero fixed it.

Interesting might be display driver related (if not a CoreAVC issue), ATI & NVIDIA have released newer Vista drivers of late that may be worth checking out.

[nk]

nk.... visit http://support.corecodec.com and submit a ticket and our team will walk you through whats going on.

I submitted a ticket 4 days ago.
BUT NO RESPONSE FROM CORECODEC!

Today I recieved a mail.

This message concerns your Ticket #NZV-119366. We have not received any response back from you in 96 hours, and would like to know if you consider this issue to be resolved. If you have any further questions, simply respond to this Email.

Subject: Not work CoreAVC on Vista Ultimate 32bit
Department: CoreAVC
Priority: Medium
Status: Open

Please note that the Ticket will automatically be closed within 24 hours if no response is received from you. The Ticket will not be closed in the case that you send another reply.


Is this your company's solution way?
I have not recieved any response from corecodec about tihs problem.
I recieved ONLY THIS MAIL.:mad:

[DigitalDeviant]

If you're still referring to the "A dynamic link library (DLL) initialization routine failed." error then I'm in the same boat. I opened a ticket on March 21st. The last response from anyone from Core was on March 26th saying "We are still woring on the issue." and my ticket was placed on hold. I emailed back Monday to see if there was any change but have not received any reply.

Currently I do not have a working decoder. 1.2 was working untill I tried to install 1.3. Now I can't reinstall 1.2 because the installer refuses to install an older version. This is completely unnecessary! Why can't I fall back to an older version of software I've purchased?

[Pomyk]

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[DeepBeepMeep]

Betaboy, any news regarding the release date of the fixed/improved Coreavc 1.3 ? The color space issue was the only thing that still bothered me...

[bob0r]

http://x264.nl/duke_core_what.gif

[redrumchoy]

Alright, this is going to be my first post ever. I've been following these threads on CoreAVC for a while now, and I've been checking the coreavc website for the past month(s). How the hell do I actually purchase a license/download CoreAVC?!!?! It's been "CoreAVC sales will be back up in a few days!" for month(s)!

[ChronoCross]

Alright, this is going to be my first post ever. I've been following these threads on CoreAVC for a while now, and I've been checking the coreavc website for the past month(s). How the hell do I actually purchase a license/download CoreAVC?!!?! It's been "CoreAVC sales will be back up in a few days!" for month(s)!

you won't be able to purchase it until the next version comes out. 1.3.x

[Episode]

So CoreCodec doesn't want you to buy their stuff?-)

[Inventive Software]

Hehe... this is all the more reason for me to wait until either it becomes open-source, or I stay with ffdshow! :D

[zambelli]

I apologize for perhaps beating a dead horse, but traversing a thread of this length for the latest and most accurate information is somewhat difficult. :confused:

My question is: is it or will it be possible to transfer the CoreAVC license from one machine to another? Not to be used simultaneously, of course. It seems strange that CoreAVC can phone home to register the software with a particular OS serial, but it can't phone home to unregister and free up the license.

[Inventive Software]

My impression from Betaboy was that you could transfer from XP to Vista if you were upgrading to Vista. This is because they wanted to smooth the process of upgrading completely, so to speak. I don't think you can transfer back to XP. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, however...

Transferring between machines is tricky, but shouldn't be more difficult than basically uninstalling on one machine, re-installing on another, re-activating and proving you're just migrating machines, so to speak.

[Shinigami-Sama]

I apologize for perhaps beating a dead horse, but traversing a thread of this length for the latest and most accurate information is somewhat difficult. :confused:

My question is: is it or will it be possible to transfer the CoreAVC license from one machine to another? Not to be used simultaneously, of course. It seems strange that CoreAVC can phone home to register the software with a particular OS serial, but it can't phone home to unregister and free up the license.

The last time this came up I believe beta boy said you have to send in a ticket to transfer it and it was only a grace period

I do find it a little odd they have a system that could do this nicely yet it seems to not be working out very well


as for vista it was also a grace period update last I seen

[bob0r]

@BetaBoy

Permission to use 1.2 "unactivation version" on Windows Vista?

1.3 just SUX, makes most H.264 play like you are on crack (known problem, but where is the fix??)
And 1.3 wont activate, on vista, ofcourse.

This is just getting ridiculous! :rolleyes:

[ChronoCross]

@BetaBoy

Permission to use 1.2 "unactivation version" on Windows Vista?

1.3 just SUX, makes most H.264 play like you are on crack (known problem, but where is the fix??)
And 1.3 wont activate, on vista, ofcourse.

This is just getting ridiculous! :rolleyes:

another pirate? ARGH

[bob0r]

Hehe, not yet, i am asking for permission :)

[Disabled]

Here is another one for you CC:
Any News on GPU Support?

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[ChronoCross]

Here is another one for you CC:
Any News on GPU Support?

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aren't you like the 100th person to ask?

Same answer applies. It's not going to be in 1.3.

[Sirber]

aren't you like the 100th person to ask?

Same answer applies. It's not going to be in 1.3.

then what's going to be in 1.3?

[Guest]

It's all academic, because you still cannot buy it!

[Hans Ohlo]

hey, i am sure they are just taking care of the last immedate bugs. the release is just around the corner...

-chris

p.s. for everyone who has left his sarcasm detector off... THIS was sarcasm!

[DigitalDeviant]

then what's going to be in 1.3?

Well, 1.3 introduced bugs which have made it so the decoder won't register on my PC. It's been about a month since I opened a ticket on Core's support site and well over three weeks since it was placed on hold with a "we're working on it" message. Repeated emails and posts on their site have gone unanswered and in the meantime I cannot reinstall 1.2 which worked. I would advise anyone with a current account not to upgrade yet.

And to reiterate... there has been no help from CoreCodec!

[ChronoCross]

then what's going to be in 1.3?

go back a few pages in this thread. Or the rant thread one of the two betaboy posted a changelog as well as some screenshots.

Also they made additional changes after the OEM test due to user demand.

[Disabled]

incidentally, the just released nvidia 8500/8600 cards promise to offload 100% of avc decoding to the GPU. for ex: reduce cpu usage to 5% on a x2 3800 while playing back casino royal bluray h264.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=835630&page=4

what does this mean for coreavc? I think they need to move fast to add h/w support.

move fast? Why that, they never said when GPU support will be added.
If in 2010 any low price CPU can decode AVC with 3% usage and you just have to link a library into your project to get GPU accell you still cant moan, cause you got what you paid for:devil:
[/irony]

[Hans Ohlo]

But i really want to know what is going on. A clear statement would be much appreciated.
Will we ever see GPU support ? In 6 months, in 12 months, in 18 months ?
i also would like to know when we willl get news and so on... there was talk about small bug fixes and that 1.3.0.1 will be very closely released... but corecodec spits on its customers! (sorry to put it that drasticly)

[DeepBeepMeep]

Well it doesn't look good news...

First there is this total absence of feeback from betaboy. It already happened several times in the past, so it shouldn't be such a worry, it is the trademark of "core" :-). However, what is even more intriguing is that the sales option has been disabled on their website for quite a long time

Here are my two cents theories:
- core is about to / or has gone bankrupt, speed of the software decoder is no longer a significant competitive advantage given the progress of hardware based decoding
- they stay away from annoying / demanding customers (that is us!) to focus on their OEM customers

Either way it doesn't smell good. Maybe the good news is that people do not seem be bothered anymore with coreavc given the low activity of this thread recently...

[ChronoCross]

I think it's because you guys spent so much time bitching that it's no longer worth their time to post here.

Considering you guys want a perfect product and yet want it tomorrow. You can't have both.

[DigitalDeviant]

I think it's because you guys spent so much time bitching that it's no longer worth their time to post here.

Considering you guys want a perfect product and yet want it tomorrow. You can't have both.

What about their own forums and support site? I've had a ticket submitted and have been emailing, posting on their forums (and here), private messaging, etc. them and haven't had a reply in well over a month. I haven't been 'bitching', it's all been very polite. All I want is a working decoder, which I haven't had since 1.3 was rolled out.

[Jay Bee]

I think it's because you guys spent so much time bitching that it's no longer worth their time to post here.

Considering you guys want a perfect product and yet want it tomorrow. You can't have both.

It wasn't the forum users that mentioned the word "tomorrow" (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=972790&postcount=2655).

[ChronoCross]

It wasn't the forum users that mentioned the word "tomorrow" (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=972790&postcount=2655).

it's the forum people that are harping on it. What if they found another bug. What if x? what if? seriously you can't take everything you read as 100%. no company has ever released any software ever that has been announced for a specific date. Why do you think companies say things like 4th quarter 2007.

you guys are just pissing yourselves off more posting here and mulling over it.

[Jay Bee]

What if they found another bug. What if x? what if? seriously you can't take everything you read as 100%. no company has ever released any software ever that has been announced for a specific date. Why do you think companies say things like 4th quarter 2007.




Nothing wrong with what you say. But scale does matter. Over one month, without a word, instead of one day as announced. That's not the same as for instance saying Q1, announcing delay and then releasing in Q2.

[Pomyk]

it's the forum people that are harping on it. What if they found another bug. What if x? what if? seriously you can't take everything you read as 100%. no company has ever released any software ever that has been announced for a specific date. Why do you think companies say things like 4th quarter 2007.

you guys are just pissing yourselves off more posting here and mulling over it.

Look from the user point of view...
I paid for this product a YEAR ago and I still have to use ffdshow because CoreAVC doesn't decode properly.

[ChronoCross]

Look from the user point of view...
I paid for this product a YEAR ago and I still have to use ffdshow because CoreAVC doesn't decode properly.

I bought it too............and the errors it does have are noticeable only upon extreme analysis. If you just watch something you won't notice it.

[DigitalDeviant]

I bought it three... and as of March 21st it has not functioned on the PC it's registered to. March 26th was the last time anyone from Core communicated anything to me in any fashion. Since then I have been using ffdshow. I'd have no problem with waiting if I could reinstall 1.2, but Core has made it so you cannot revert to a previous version.

I'm not asking that they fix minor decoding bugs or add new features, I just want a working decoder.

[Pomyk]

I bought it too............and the errors it does have are noticeable only upon extreme analysis. If you just watch something you won't notice it.

When you're anime encoder you notice even smallest errors ;)

[Neo Fagin]

I bought it too............and the errors it does have are noticeable only upon extreme analysis. If you just watch something you won't notice it.

I just watched a 1080p x264 encode which had nasty macroblocking and trails caused by coreavc, which don't show up when the same movie's watched with ffdshow. So no, they're very noticeable, and yes, coreavc is still buggy and cutting corners to gain speed over other decoders. Which I don't object to, but they need to be honest about it.

[ChronoCross]

When you're anime encoder you notice even smallest errors ;)

Like I said.....you only notice it if your paying attention. Anime encoders pay attention. If I just watch something my eyes ignore things. If I'm encoding something then my eyes pick up on it.

It's about turning it on and off. You guys posting here so you seem to be happy with ffdshow.....so why are you even bothering with coreavc?

[Sirber]

ffdshow is sadly not smp :(

[DigitalDeviant]

It's about turning it on and off. You guys posting here so you seem to be happy with ffdshow.....so why are you even bothering with coreavc?

I am not happy with ffdshow, I am stuck with ffdshow. There is a big difference.

[Neo Fagin]

Because ffdshow is fine for my media PC that can keep up. I bought and paid for coreavc specifically to use on my workstation which cannot.

As a paying customer, I feel the nasty macroblocking bug present in CoreAVC should be fixed, or it should be stated up-front that it is not a "bug", but a side-effect of CoreAVC's coding that enables it to be signifigantly faster than other decoders. I should not be told, "oh who cares about some ringing and a few macroblocks, just ignore them, you people with platinum eyes have issues, maybe you should use ffdshow". I mean, hey I'll go master some DVDs and do a 3h movie in MPEG-2 as a DVD5 and tell customers who complain about the movie being blocky and VHS-quality, "well if you just watch it you won't notice it".

Generally speaking it is to be assumed that people who are watching h.264 video are "paying attention" since h.264 is the primary next-gen video codec used on high-definition video. We are "paying attention" to better video quality, thusly we are also "paying attention" to gigantic trails of macroblocks that splash across the screen in many h.264/x264 encoded movies played back with CoreAVC.

If the developers were willing to address the issue and simply publically state that you can expect slightly reduced image quality or occasional macroblocks when using CoreAVC as a tradeoff for its speed, I'd be fine with it and would probably still have paid for it. Well, if it were even possible to pay for it, or possible to register it, depending on the operational condition or lack thereof of their registration service.

[ACrowley]

Because ffdshow is fine for my media PC that can keep up. I bought and paid for coreavc specifically to use on my workstation which cannot.

As a paying customer, I feel the nasty macroblocking bug present in CoreAVC should be fixed, or it should be stated up-front that it is not a "bug", but a side-effect of CoreAVC's coding that enables it to be signifigantly faster than other decoders. I should not be told, "oh who cares about some ringing and a few macroblocks, just ignore them, you people with platinum eyes have issues, maybe you should use ffdshow". I mean, hey I'll go master some DVDs and do a 3h movie in MPEG-2 as a DVD5 and tell customers who complain about the movie being blocky and VHS-quality, "well if you just watch it you won't notice it".


youre right...

the Blocking is very very ugly .
I have it on a lot of x264 encodes. Its mostly in fast Movement Scenes with Fog,Water etc

ffdshow,Cyberlink, VLC is without Blocking in these Scenes.
It is surely a CoreAVC Bug!

I use Cyberlink without DXVA for Playback and ffdshow for Directshowsource

[KoD]

Are you guys using "Standard deblocking" in CoreAVC ? I'm surprised to see those bugs are so frequent as my personal experience is completely different.

[Foreigner999]

Well it doesn't look good news...

First there is this total absence of feeback from betaboy. It already happened several times in the past, so it shouldn't be such a worry, it is the trademark of "core" :-). However, what is even more intriguing is that the sales option has been disabled on their website for quite a long time

Here are my two cents theories:
- core is about to / or has gone bankrupt, speed of the software decoder is no longer a significant competitive advantage given the progress of hardware based decoding
- they stay away from annoying / demanding customers (that is us!) to focus on their OEM customers

Either way it doesn't smell good. Maybe the good news is that people do not seem be bothered anymore with coreavc given the low activity of this thread recently...

I suspect that has more to do with the availability of the cracked warez version than anything else. Complaining therefore has probably taken a back seat, as an improvement request to the cracked version rather than the official version with restrictions. If there was no cracked version I'm sure alot more people would be complaining, period. Before there was such a version alot of people were complaining.

Now, not so many. Makes you wonder why, huh?

[bob0r]

Soon online: X264 SPECIAL CoreAVC edition!!!
And when i get removal notice... ill reply just as quick as Core does to support emails!!!

Fair trade!!


FUCKING CRAP COMPANY.... and to think i got 3 people to buy coreavc....... Fucking useless

Fuck (This goes not for Haali, he still rocks very very much)

Edit, to below:
I'll let you know once Core replies to the emails

[Kurtnoise]

Is it the right place for such sentences ?

come on...

[Romario]

Is it the right place for such sentences ?

come on...

You can bet this is right place for such sentences. He is right.