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wanezhiling
1st April 2012, 18:34
Is this the QHD or the 1080p sample?
Where can I find it?

Google: ducks.take.off.2160p.qhd.crf25.x264-ctrlhd.mkv
wanezhiling
2nd April 2012, 19:40
http://p.gokuai.com/index.php?m=Index&a=file&file=2u7UmrSwOj6ehL26 (IDM is available.)
nev,a 1080p60fps@97.2M clip

with "evr + lav cuvid", got 59.xx fps on my poor 520 card.
graphstudio:http://i.imgur.com/IFOUT.png
in potplayer(evr + cuvid):http://i.imgur.com/yvaLE.png
Not good but @ least very close to 60.:)

So if using evr cp i must accept this:(:http://i.imgur.com/1hG0j.png

how about it on your 680? And is there any possibility to improve cuvid performance? cuz seems that even a vp4 card can handle it better then mine..




http://p.gokuai.com/index.php?m=Index&a=file&file=1TSO0m3o219vj18s (IDM is available.)
a 1080i m2ts, as above
graphstudio:http://i.imgur.com/NXrKO.png
in potplayer(evr + cuvid):http://i.imgur.com/OAyKQ.jpg
in potplayer(evr cp + cuvid):http://i.imgur.com/AZZaV.png

For the bat clip, I will totally blame to poor gt520 though CoreAVC CUDA(hardware deinterlacing)can keep 60fps smoothly in evr cp. :)




ftp://4K_Chimei:4K_Chimei@140.131.77.6/HD.Club-4K-Chimei-inn-60mbps.rar
my result with "null renderer + cuvid":http://i.imgur.com/Fj2bZ.png
how about you, nev?
nevcairiel
2nd April 2012, 19:52
Your first link is dead, download results in a 404.

Anyway, the 520 is just very slow. It has nothing to do with CUVID speed, benchmark it without EVR and it should be much faster.
Same goes for the second clip. If you use LAV for deinterlacing, it'll use the highest quality possible, which is too much for the 520. CoreAVC has no CUVID deinterlacing, its "hardware deinterlacing" tells the renderer to deinterlace, and the renderer will switch to a lower quality if its too slow.
wanezhiling
2nd April 2012, 20:20
Is IDM available?

Another link for 1080p60fps clip:http://pan.baidu.com/netdisk/singlepublic?fid=51669
Another link for 1080i m2ts:http://pan.baidu.com/netdisk/singlepublic?fid=51678
Download way:http://i.imgur.com/YUqxr.png

Ok I see, native dxva2 is the best choice I think.:)
BetA13
2nd April 2012, 22:34
Well, Duckstakeoff@30fps@246M works well with "EVR + CUVID" not madVR, poor gt520 was totally killed by madVR..

hmm, tested it here..
it doesnt use my GFX card at all..i dont know what i do wrong..shouldnt it be rendered by teh GPU?

thats what i get - apoor 1.9 fps. hehe

http://www.abload.de/img/mpc-hc_2012_04_02_23_ihu7w.jpg

http://www.abload.de/thumb/w9rug7.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=w9rug7.png)

ther eit says its not using CUVID at all, its using the avcodec..

did i setup spomething wrong? Please help :)

thx..
Andrey /MAG/
3rd April 2012, 13:06
I see memory leaks when use SVP. Memory gradual growth and gradual free.
DXVA (copy-back) on mkv (H264) video.

http://i.imgur.com/F4F4B.png

Is this a bug?
nevcairiel
3rd April 2012, 14:41
There is no scale on that graph, its impossible to say how much memory it supposedly uses.
Anyway, when playing with DXVA-CB here, it only goes up/down by around 20 MB, which is perfectly normal.
Andrey /MAG/
3rd April 2012, 15:02
Minimal value is around 1000 MB, maximal is around 2000 MB. memory growth speed about 150 MB/sec, memory releasing speed about 75 MB/sec.
Core i7 920, GeForce GTX 260, driver 275.33, Win7 64 bit, MPC-HC 1.6.1.

http://i.imgur.com/Oyl3P.png

http://i.imgur.com/rFD9B.png

Please tell me what additional delails you need to get and fix the bug.
nevcairiel
3rd April 2012, 15:14
http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e5a3e66ee930f2943d741d750d2dc1db.png

I see no memory fluctuations. Must be something in your setup somewhere.
LAV is also limited to not pre-buffer more then required frames, which is only around ~20-30 MB.
Andrey /MAG/
3rd April 2012, 15:39
I have no memory fluctuation on CUVID decoder, but if I use DXVA2 (copy-back) then on every H264-file a see these fluctuations.
I can check it tomorrow on Core i5-2300 + Quadro 600.

---
Oh! Sorry. Fluctuations gone when I change Haali Media Splitter to LAV Splitter.
Can you check Haali?
I don't know, ms be it is Haali's bug?
I use last Matroska splitter (03.03.2011) from official site (http://haali.su/mkv/).
nevcairiel
3rd April 2012, 16:33
Haali is certainly behaving weirdly.
I added a fix to make it behave more sanely with Haali, so the memory usage isn't that extreme.
Andrey /MAG/
3rd April 2012, 16:42
nevcairiel
Thank you for fast bug fix
heyer
3rd April 2012, 17:49
What is LAV an acronym for? I can guess the AV part, but what about the L?
nevcairiel
3rd April 2012, 17:55
Its not an acronym for anything.
Midzuki
3rd April 2012, 18:07
What is LAV an acronym for? I can guess the AV part, but what about the L?

LibAV~codec

&&

LibAV~format

nevcairiel may say I'm wrong, but hey :)
CruNcher
3rd April 2012, 18:09
LIB Audio Video = Library Audio Video (Format,Codec) = LAV
LIBAV is the main core behind FFMPEG (and so the base for virtually every Linu* Media Player) and based on that LIBAV is the name of a fork of FFMPEG, it's used in millions of apps though mostly native im not sure by 100% but Lav Splitter might have been the 1st try to Port it's power over to the Directshow World (after not being happy with MPC-HCs native Win32 Splitter development) @ least the first open shortly after Av Splitter followed (though it's not open) Later on Nev Adopted the whole thing including the Audio and Video Decoding parts so the name Lav Splitter is not really that correct anymore more Lav Suite now ;)
SamuriHL
3rd April 2012, 18:11
Love Audio Video. :p
wanezhiling
3rd April 2012, 18:22
The name LAV is a bit ordinary I think.

Give a new power name for the great implementation.:D
heyer
3rd April 2012, 18:24
Well that makes sense. By the way, doesn't LAV use the same library as ffdshow, or am I mistaken?
CruNcher
3rd April 2012, 19:10
@heyer
yup it does main parts are ffmpeg and some ideas that came to life on doom9 (either being just released here or actively developed here) :)

@wanezhiling
the name is superb it also shows the admiration of the dev for the initial library and that without the work of everyone there his work wouldn't be possible LAV (uppercase) carries this on in the name, though i would agree that LAV Splitter doesn't fit anymore ;) and LAV Suite or LAV Box would be some better name for the whole package it became LAV Spliiter,LAV Audio and LAV Video = LAV Suite maybe LAV DS Suite or LAV DS Box :D
nevcairiel
3rd April 2012, 19:12
The project is called LAV Filters, LAV Splitter is only one part of it.
CruNcher
3rd April 2012, 19:26
Ahh right Lav Filters yeah fits better geez seems im also a little buzzword infected already ;)
Though since the fork of FFMPEG and LIBAV people could make mistakes into believing its LIBAV LIBAV based instead of FFMPEG LIBAV i find this also confusing sometimes :P before it was pretty clear LAV = FFMPEG but since the fork it could be also LIBAV, though as both share also i guess it makes less sense to see LAV as FFMPEG and more as a big one LAV ;)
Midzuki
3rd April 2012, 22:52
Ahh right Lav Filters yeah fits better geez seems im also a little buzzword infected already ;)
Though since the fork of FFMPEG and LIBAV people could make mistakes into believing its LIBAV LIBAV based instead of FFMPEG LIBAV i find this also confusing sometimes :P before it was pretty clear LAV = FFMPEG but since the fork it could be also LIBAV, though as both share also i guess it makes less sense to see LAV as FFMPEG and more as a big one LAV ;)

Yes$S, the quote above is almost as crystal-clear as the quote below :sly:

No he is right in that that it makes no sense Physicaly you cant take a pair amount of energy and expect that to be less energy if you put more energy into it you wont save energy the end result will have more energy except you reduce that energy again to under the level of the base energy ;)

:D :D :D
Mixer73
3rd April 2012, 23:24
CruNchers use of English certainly CruNches my brain!

At least he doesn't wear out his punctuation keys though like many people :D

I love the name LAV Filters, no nonsense - clear and informative. If it was some sort of commercial product no doubt it would be Super Power Ultimate LAV Filters Gold (TM) Extreme Edition Super Overclocked.
Mercury_22
4th April 2012, 08:41
CruNchers use of English certainly CruNches my brain!

At least he doesn't wear out his punctuation keys though like many people :D

I love the name LAV Filters, no nonsense - clear and informative. If it was some sort of commercial product no doubt it would be Super Power Ultimate LAV Filters Gold (TM) Extreme Edition Super Overclocked.

Good one ! :D :goodpost:

P.S. Sorry ! I couldn't help myself :p
wanezhiling
4th April 2012, 15:14
nev, how can I use LAV Splitter Source(not LAV Splitter) for .ts .tp .avi .wmv in MPC-HC?
nevcairiel
4th April 2012, 15:32
nev, how can I use LAV Splitter Source(not LAV Splitter) for .ts .tp .avi .wmv in MPC-HC?

Use the LAV installer, that'll give it to you for .ts .avi and .wmv. (Make sure to enable WMV/ASF in the installer, its default off)

What is a .tp file?

In any case you can directly hook up extensions by just adding a new entry in the registry in HKCL\Media Type\Extensions (or HKCL\Wow6432Node\Media Type\Extensions for 32-bit on a 64-bit OS)
Just copy an existing entry like .ts
Surfn
4th April 2012, 15:49
i get mpeg2 dxva2 decoding with microsoft dtv-dvd video decoder but not with lav, it falls back to software. using an ati 5670. will lav mpeg2 dxva2 decoding be made to work on my card in the future
nevcairiel
4th April 2012, 15:50
i get mpeg2 dxva2 decoding with microsoft dtv-dvd video decoder but not with lav, it falls back to software. using an ati 5670. will lav mpeg2 dxva2 decoding be made to work on my card in the future

No, the ATI 5xxx series cards do not support full MPEG-2 DXVA acceleration, and LAV only supports full acceleration. The Microsoft decoder also supports partial acceleration, which works on the older cards.

It'll not be supported.
Surfn
4th April 2012, 15:51
ok nev thanks for the reply
CruNcher
4th April 2012, 16:47
Use the LAV installer, that'll give it to you for .ts .avi and .wmv. (Make sure to enable WMV/ASF in the installer, its default off)

What is a .tp file?

In any case you can directly hook up extensions by just adding a new entry in the registry in HKCL\Media Type\Extensions (or HKCL\Wow6432Node\Media Type\Extensions for 32-bit on a 64-bit OS)
Just copy an existing entry like .ts

It's practically renamed .ts files certain Satellite Recording Applications use them im not sure if it even was only 1 Manufacture from Asia from who it also actually originated from somewhere though i never understood why they use the .tp instead of .ts it doesn't seem to be a difference like .pva (Hauppauge) and .mpg where ;)
Though i could be wrong and some metadata is written inside their or it uses some different packeting optimized for specific hardware (like Sony has it's metadata part for .mts camcorder (time of recording,shutter speed information other Hardware settings) and nowdays .m2ts :)

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=150625
wanezhiling
4th April 2012, 16:54
Use the LAV installer, that'll give it to you for .ts .avi and .wmv. (Make sure to enable WMV/ASF in the installer, its default off)

What is a .tp file?

In any case you can directly hook up extensions by just adding a new entry in the registry in HKCL\Media Type\Extensions (or HKCL\Wow6432Node\Media Type\Extensions for 32-bit on a 64-bit OS)
Just copy an existing entry like .ts

http://i.imgur.com/Ixcfn.png
Thanks. I used installer. Download again from http://files.1f0.de/lavf/LAVFilters-0.50.1.exe and reinstall it and tick asf in the installer (http://i.imgur.com/72uco.png)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.3gp]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.aac]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ac3]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.amv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.avi]
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bdmv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{20884BC2-629F-45EA-B1C5-FA4FFA438250}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bik]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bmp]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dib]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.divx]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dtshd]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dvr-ms]
"Source Filter"="{C9F5FE02-F851-4eb5-99EE-AD602AF1E619}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.eac3]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.evo]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.flac]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.flv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{F2FAC0F1-3852-4670-AAC0-9051D400AC54}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.gif]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jfif]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpe]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpeg]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpg]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m2ts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m3u]
"Source Filter"="{e436ebb5-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"
"SubType"="{a98c8400-4181-11d1-a520-00a0d10129c0}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m4a]
"Source Filter"="{F4670DEF-0302-4F5E-BA74-843F2EC2B7C7}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mka]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mks]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mkv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mov]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mp3]
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"Source Filter"="{E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"Subtype"="{E436EB87-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mp4]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpeg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpls]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{20884BC2-629F-45EA-B1C5-FA4FFA438250}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.rm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.rmvb]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.tga]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.vob]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.vp6]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.webm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.wtv]
"Source Filter"="{C9F5FE02-F851-4eb5-99EE-AD602AF1E619}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"



Now avi and ts are ok, but .wmv..:(
Like you said, adding a new entry can make the LAV Source work in MPC-HC.
Not a big deal though I dont know where the problem is.


http://www.mediafire.com/?8andvcwms3xy96a
This's a tp file.:)
tp file is from Korea only.;)
CruNcher
4th April 2012, 17:13
Yup i guess DVICO invented this renaming sheme (maybe they just wanted to avoid licensing by making everyone back then believe it's a unique format, that you had to convert into .ts first) ;) , though their Capture Cards and Sat Cards used it first they produced Media Players later ;) I remember this exactly it was the time when MPEG-2 HD gained popularity in the States :)
wanezhiling
4th April 2012, 17:24
:) You are right!
nevcairiel
4th April 2012, 17:28
Now avi and ts are ok, but .wmv..:

I just ran the 0.50.1 installer and it created entries for .wmv just fine.
Make sure to really set it in the installer, and not just in the splitter configuration, where your screenshot is from. :p
wanezhiling
4th April 2012, 17:39
Oh shxt how stupid I am..:p
No problem at all now, thanks nev.

PS: Will you add tp into LAV?:)
CruNcher
4th April 2012, 17:53
@wanezhiling
did you ever saw a performance of these above 5 gilrs K-pop Girl Groups actually singing Live and not full playback together, does that even exist ;) ?
wanezhiling
4th April 2012, 18:10
No.;)
wo0zy
4th April 2012, 19:14
http://i.imgur.com/Ixcfn.png
Thanks. I used installer. Download again from http://files.1f0.de/lavf/LAVFilters-0.50.1.exe and reinstall it and tick asf in the installer (http://i.imgur.com/72uco.png)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.3gp]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.aac]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ac3]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.amv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.avi]
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bdmv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{20884BC2-629F-45EA-B1C5-FA4FFA438250}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bik]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.bmp]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dib]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.divx]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dtshd]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.dvr-ms]
"Source Filter"="{C9F5FE02-F851-4eb5-99EE-AD602AF1E619}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.eac3]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.evo]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.flac]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.flv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{F2FAC0F1-3852-4670-AAC0-9051D400AC54}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.gif]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jfif]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpe]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpeg]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.jpg]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m2ts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m3u]
"Source Filter"="{e436ebb5-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"
"SubType"="{a98c8400-4181-11d1-a520-00a0d10129c0}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m4a]
"Source Filter"="{F4670DEF-0302-4F5E-BA74-843F2EC2B7C7}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mka]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mks]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mkv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mov]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mp3]
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"Source Filter"="{E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"Subtype"="{E436EB87-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mp4]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{08E22ADA-B715-45ed-9D20-7B87750301D4}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpeg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mpls]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{20884BC2-629F-45EA-B1C5-FA4FFA438250}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.mts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogg]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ogv]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{D2855FA9-61A7-4db0-B979-71F297C17A04}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.rm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.rmvb]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.tga]
"Source Filter"="{7DF62B50-6843-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.ts]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.vob]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e06d8022-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.vp6]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.webm]
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{1AC0BEBD-4D2B-45ad-BCEB-F2C41C5E3788}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.wtv]
"Source Filter"="{C9F5FE02-F851-4eb5-99EE-AD602AF1E619}"
"SubType"="{e06d8023-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}"
"Media Type"="{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"



Now avi and ts are ok, but .wmv..:(
Like you said, adding a new entry can make the LAV Source work in MPC-HC.
Not a big deal though I dont know where the problem is.


http://www.mediafire.com/?8andvcwms3xy96a
This's a tp file.:)
tp file is from Korea only.;)

Hi guys,

I thought I knew the answer to the following question but it seems to have escaped my grey matter. Guess that's what happens when you blindly use an installer :D.

Could someone remind me of the difference between lav splitter and lav splitter source and the reason for using one instead of the other? A link to the posts covering this would be more than enough as I can't remember how long ago this was discussed and searching doesn't narrow down the posts very much when using key words of splitter and source :o

Thanks in advance and sorry for the basic question (again?).

Cheers,

Wo0zy
hubblec4
4th April 2012, 19:20
push, I would also like to know
nevcairiel
4th April 2012, 20:26
Thats just how DirectShow works.

The one is a Source Filter, it reads files/streams directly and demuxes them. Not much else to it.

The other is a Splitter Filter, it gets the stream from another DirectShow source filter, and then demuxes it.
The Splitter Filter always needs another Filter to read the file or the stream for it. The most basic case is the "File Source (Async)" filter, which just reads files, but it could be a more advanced streaming filter or in theory even a Live TV Source (although that probably won't work right).

The first case (LAV as pure Source Filter) has a little less overhead, and for proper handling of streaming protocols its required to be used. Generally this is the better choice to use.
The second case (LAV only as Splitter Filter) has the advantage that it doesn't need to manually be hooked up to all sorts of file extensions, but instead most players will just load a "File Source (Async)" when no other Source Filter is found, which is then connected to LAV Splitter, and it can then probe the stream itself without relying on the file extension (identifying the format based on byte-markers in the file)

So, even in a properly setup system, both have their uses.
The LAV Installer will setup the Source Filter to be used for all common extensions, so that the slightly more efficient way is used, and register the Splitter Filter so that its available for all the other cases.

For comparison, Haali has the same setup.
Its "Source Filter" is just called Haali Media Splitter, and the "Splitter Filter" is called Haali Media Splitter (AR)

Just don't worry about it. :p
mbordas
4th April 2012, 20:40
So it might be slightly more efficient to add lav splitter source to the mpc-hc external filter list, than just lav splitter?
nevcairiel
4th April 2012, 20:42
So it might be slightly more efficient to add lav splitter source to the mpc-hc external filter list, than just lav splitter?

Adding a pure source filter to the external filter list has no real advantages, because MPC-HC doesn't know which formats to use it for. Adding it does no harm of course, and there may be 1-2 cases where it actually helps, but only if you have more then one source filter for a particular format installed.

If you want to use the Source Filter, use the Installer. It should set everything up for all the common formats. If there is more common formats that the installer doesn't take care of, just let me know.
wo0zy
4th April 2012, 21:09
Thats just how DirectShow works.

The one is a Source Filter, it reads files/streams directly and demuxes them. Not much else to it.

The other is a Splitter Filter, it gets the stream from another DirectShow source filter, and then demuxes it.
The Splitter Filter always needs another Filter to read the file or the stream for it. The most basic case is the "File Source (Async)" filter, which just reads files, but it could be a more advanced streaming filter or in theory even a Live TV Source (although that probably won't work right).

The first case (LAV as pure Source Filter) has a little less overhead, and for proper handling of streaming protocols its required to be used. Generally this is the better choice to use.
The second case (LAV only as Splitter Filter) has the advantage that it doesn't need to manually be hooked up to all sorts of file extensions, but instead most players will just load a "File Source (Async)" when no other Source Filter is found, which is then connected to LAV Splitter, and it can then probe the stream itself without relying on the file extension (identifying the format based on byte-markers in the file)

So, even in a properly setup system, both have their uses.
The LAV Installer will setup the Source Filter to be used for all common extensions, so that the slightly more efficient way is used, and register the Splitter Filter so that its available for all the other cases.

For comparison, Haali has the same setup.
Its "Source Filter" is just called Haali Media Splitter, and the "Splitter Filter" is called Haali Media Splitter (AR)

Just don't worry about it. :p

Awesome! Thank you Nev!

Bookmarked so I don't ask again in 500 pages time :D
Cheers,

Wo0zy
hubblec4
4th April 2012, 21:47
thanks Nev.
Pat357
5th April 2012, 00:38
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.avi]
"Media Type"="{E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}"
"SubType"="{e436eb88-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770}"
"Source Filter"="{B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}"

Now avi and ts are ok, but .wmv..:(
Like you said, adding a new entry can make the LAV Source work in MPC-HC.
Not a big deal though I dont know where the problem is.

Was is just the installer that made "lav splitter source" the dedicated splitter for .AVI files or did you change it manually ?
The reason I'm asking is that I always used the installer, but there was never a dedicated source file for AVI.
That's why I assumed that the installer doesn't write anything for AVI. Apparently it does, but somehow Win7 doesn't allow it for some reason, at least on my system.

This could also be the reason why your .WMV is not dedicated to LAV splitter source.. : protected by the OS, the installer is not allowed to change these specific values.

As I think further about always using LAV splitter source for AVI : is it even a smart thing to do ?

Will the source/splitter be able to handle VfW codecs that are normally handled by the "MS AVI decompressor" ?
The latter is available on every Windows system and will use the appropriate VfW codec to decode the file.

I use for example the Huffyuv_mt codec to to a lossless compression to an intermediate file using VirtualDub from my .AVS script.
The difference between the Huffyuv_mt and the normal is that the _mt can also multithreaded encode (compress) and saves me a lot of time because of this.

Thanks to the "MS AVI decompressor", I can open the compressed files in Vdub and, with a small work-around, in every DirectShow based media player like MPC-HC, PotP, ZoomP,...

I don't think that Lav splitter source would handle everything correct in such situations....., but I haven't done any testing for this, so maybe it works after all.:D

PS: I'm very aware that VfW is old and outdated, but if it comes to fast and efficient lossless compression/decoding, there are no other, comparable, options available.
Even if the decoding is fast and MT, the compression from a 2h movie in single thread kills the fun.
wanezhiling
5th April 2012, 01:28
I recommend source filter if you use PotPlayer.

Splitter filter loses control in some cases.:)
nevcairiel
5th April 2012, 06:31
Will the source/splitter be able to handle VfW codecs that are normally handled by the "MS AVI decompressor" ?

The DirectShow AVI Decompressor is a decoder, it should work in conjunction with any splitter. If you use the MS AVI Splitter or LAV Splitter should not matter.
If something works with the MS AVI Splitter and not with LAV, then thats a bug and should be handled as such.
CruNcher
5th April 2012, 14:20
@Nev
I would say the .ts part is very stable now if not even super stable (Multiplex support Performance and Improving Seek could be next) :) i found several samples though where seeking fails (though i dunno how to get those samples yet to you without fixing them but i working on it) with lav splitter but works with AV Splitter according to Eduard he uses some older parser code he also made it available http://avsplitter.avmedia.su/en/content/ffmpeg-source-code-microsoft-visual-studio , his splitter also doesn't crash Mainconcepts Decoder one big issue with Lav Splitter currently. I did also several Performance tests both are very near each other behave almost the same (not surprising @ all both being ffmpeg based).
Seeeking experience with DXVA Lav Video is very good especially if most of the frames are in memory already it's super fast IO wise and very low IO going on on the HDD very neat experience see ultrafastseek Video (though i only tested Intel Quicksync and DXVA, not sure who else can hold up with this @ HD), i wonder if it wouldn't make sense especially for systems with a lot of RAM (and all other requirements necessary for this) to load a whole bunch of the Video into memory (as fast as possible before playback and continuously load more progressively ahead @ normal playback so higher the buffer for DXVA playback, to always allow a very instant seek experience) :)
Of course you could also use a RAM drive and temporarily transfer the whole Video to it for the playback , make a copy on load of the Video to the RamDrive and then playback from their this should allow instant seek for the whole Video (including instant scrubbing), though would be then the job of the Host of Lav Fillters to do this then :D

Though MPC-HC has a lot of issues with this 1st mentioned here is it keeps Audio Playback @ every seek operation be it fast forward, instant scrubbing or any small seek this causes sound distortions per excellence especially @ 4x speed you have chipmunks live (very disturbing) ;)
wanezhiling
5th April 2012, 14:58
nev, I found an odd thing.

My system is win7 x86.

ts and tp are available in HKCL\Media Type\Extensions after using LAV installer, but once I ran PotPlayer(just run it), ts and tp vanish..

I tested for several times and I can ensure its PotPlayer which indeed deleted the ts/tp extension.

:sly:Why PotPlayer do that?