AutoMKV 0.93a - (DVD/TS/AVI/AVS to X264/XviD/WVC1 into MKV/MP4/WMV) update 30/12/2007

[Ronin-7]

buzzqw does AutoMKV support anamorphic encoding into MP4 ?

As it only seems to work if I use the MKV container in AutoMKV but MeGUI does it for MP4 + MKV.


:thanks:

[buzzqw]

the anamorphic encoding is done with the avisynth script and by the par signal
i suggest to force the par signal in advanced settings

BHH

[Unrealbr]

hey buzzqw, automkv seems to be crashing when trying to encode in mp4 audio format. A couple of 12 videos i tried and selected mp4 it ended up as mp3 :(

[payne_en_diaz]

so you cannot ear audio ...

even in media player classic...

a lot strange since is a wav file...

have you other audio decoder beside ffdshow ? (like ac3filter...)

BHH
I can only play the wav file from the temp folder with winamp.
Media player classic and virtual dub will not play it.
When I try to play it in virtual dub the error says "it cannot detect the file type"
Audiograbber can't convert it,neither can Easy CD-DA Extractor.
It seems that the wav file that was created in the temp folder isn't a true wav I guess.


Yes I do have ac3 filter.


I have ffdshow installed also but do I need to configure it?
There are alot of settings for it.:confused:

[TheRyuu]

Out of curiosity, why do you use the Color Matrix script that you use?

"Rec.709->Rec.601",
Why not "Rec.601->Rec.709"?

Isn't the latter (601->709) suppose to be the one used when you convert a DVD to a mpeg4 file?

Just wondering. I suppose I should have asked way back when I suggested the "no color matrix" thing, but to be honest I really had no idea what each color matrix script did. :p :)

BTW, I like the preview file thing. Nice feature. A tad sluggish though when a video is playing. What about an option to hear the audio during playback too (even though it really wouldn't matter) :p

[delacroixp]

Just wondering. I suppose I should have asked way back when I suggested the "no color matrix" thing, but to be honest I really had no idea what each color matrix script did. :p :)

What do they do ?

What about an option to hear the audio during playback too (even though it really wouldn't matter) :p
I don't know if there is any point... you wouldn't be 'cropping' or otherwise making any changes in realtime that would be in any way observable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable).


:):D:eek:
Pascal

[buzzqw]

@Unrealbr

I need more info. I have just encoded in mp4 (x264+neroaac+cct) without problem.

@payne_en_diaz
reinstall ffdshow (link on first post) and let be the check as proposed.
then reboot. and try to ear in mpc


BHH

[Ronin-7]

the anamorphic encoding is done with the avisynth script and by the par signal
i suggest to force the par signal in advanced settings

BHH

I had initially tried that but with bad results as the video was stretched to the wrong proportions and not at all like the MeGUI version.

After more testing today I eventually realised I had to use the manual resize/crop option (no automatic/autocrop) then forcing the ITU resize to 16:9 PAL gets me similar results to MeGUI, so it seems to be working out now.

AutoMKV
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7016/automkvparbd0.th.png (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=automkvparbd0.png)

MeGUI
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7908/meguiwn3.th.png (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=meguiwn3.png)

Thanks again for the help.

[delacroixp]

After more testing today I eventually realised I had to use the manual resize/crop option (no automatic/autocrop) then forcing the ITU resize to 16:9 PAL gets me similar results to MeGUI, so it seems to be working out now.

Great shot, though the AutoMKV version could do with a little more cropping on the left... and you are probably aware of the 'save image' and 'save thumbnail' option in Media Player classic'... VLC media player (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) has the option to save a (lossless) PNG snapshot which can be usefull for fine detail comparisons...

It could also help with your DAR calculations... according to SeeMoreDigital and Aspect Ratio Signalling (ARS) Calculation Tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=107039) ...


:):D:eek:
Pascal

[Unrealbr]

@buzzqw i bet its my pc but dunno wich codec because i can rip it perfectly in my sis pc.
Could be the codec pack that is bugging nero mp4 encode?
Nor automkv nor the megui thingy will work.

[DDogg]

hey buzzqw, automkv seems to be crashing when trying to encode in mp4 audio format. A couple of 12 videos i tried and selected mp4 it ended up as mp3 :( Unrealbr, might I suggest you read THIS (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96137) in its entirety??

[slipstream3d]

After encoding a test episode of a TV show DVD set I've ripped off my discs (in individual episodes folders) then queuing up all the episodes to run overnight, I've encountered a problem.

I'm telling AutoMKV to make a MP4 file, fixed file size, yadda yada. The video encoded perfectly, and the FIRST time, the audio too. I am using the Nero AAC codec. The episode I did manually generated a 15 MB .MP4 file which sounds perfect, and it integrated into the final video file just fine.

The second one (the first in the queue of 22 more episodes) did a perfect job yet again for video, but the audio is now only an 880 kb file!! I can re-run the .bat file for mkvmaudio and it regenerates exactly the same tiny file every time with no errors. I've checked the "fixed1.ac3" file that it's reading from, and it sounds perfect in VLC. Does anyone know what the heck is going on here?

I've tried opening the mkvmaudio.avs file in Media Player and/or VirtualDub, but all it seems to do is start the encoding again (launching AVISynth!) and plays nothing except a loud 'snap' at the beginning for the ~22 minutes of the audio file.

[nullstuff]

...just a couple of annoyances: "prepare phase only" checkbox does not get saved in custom .ini configuration file; <ChromaMotion> and <ClosedGop> in xvid profiles are "boolean-reversed"... I mean: "true" value makes -nochromame (and/or -noclosed_gop) in "command line"...

-- nullstuff

[buzzqw]

g except a loud 'snap' at the beginning

seems that some audio samples are corrupted. please try open the delaycut log (movie xxx.log), are errors reported ?

you can also try to re-rip the audio (just re-demux it)

EDIT: "prepare phase only" checkbox does not get saved in custom .ini
that's wanted, could be dangerous if checked and forgotten ;)

if true the "-nochromame" or "-noclosed_gop" are applied, else not applied
would be better in profile if spelled <NoChromaMotion> and <NoClosedGop> ... i will check !
thanks!

also.. welcome to the forum ! (but i suppose you are present in italian doom9...)


BHH

[delacroixp]

Unrealbr, might I suggest you read THIS (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96137) in its entirety??
I certainly did... and it's concise, precise and very well articulated...

My father was a jewellery wholesaler before he passed away in '99 and my mum, being a very earthy person enjoyed working in the garden... She could never understand why he consistently refrained from mowing the lawn...
He simply said, 'it was better to pay someone to mow the lawn so that he could spend more time runnning the business and use the time more productively' ...

My computer science professor (Latin: "one who claims publicly to be an expert") enjoyed saying that 'life is about priorities... if your project is late, possibly because of more important matters or subjects, then 10% off per day' ... It was quite an eye-opener since you have the choice to choose your direction and to decide what you are actually doing on this little planet of ours and what is most important to you... life is too short to be living someone else's dream...
We focus and become experts in our field... which is perhaps better than everyone becoming equally expert/clueless about everything/nothing...

It's not unheard of that certain people have no idea of how a car actually works and can't even change a tire... with even less inclination to learn or even to be interested... or for that matter, there being more than just a few adults in New York, not even having a drivers licence... which is good !
You really don't want too many experts in the kitchen anyway... Those who are talented and interested should be encouraged to read further, write their own software, study software engineering and attend university to design micro-chips, OS's and computer systems...

Teamwork is a good thing while it works...


:):D:eek:
Pascal

[nullstuff]

i suppose you are present in italian doom9...
...esatto! :)
I was not sure if post on the italian forum, since (I guess) this is the "official" thread.
anyway, here another small annoyance ;): I've created a new XviD profile named Xvid_SAP_2.xml "forked" from Xvid_SAP.xml; now, when I re-launch AutoMKV and re-load custom settings, on "basic settings" tab I see "mine" profile is selected (Xvid_SAP_2.xml) BUT switching to "advanced settings" tab shows me XviD_Normal.xml's content inside text-area and "command line" params are in agreement of that.
hitting "reload profile" corrects both.
...hoping to be a :helpful:


ps: can I "suggest" a new slogan?
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3333/smileyphptextautomkv3aiiw5.gif
pps: (to all non-italian but anyway extremely acknowledged people posting in this forum) of course, just kidding! ;)
:thanks: to all of you.


-- nullstuff

[buzzqw]

@nullstuff

i am unable to replicate :( (with latest 0.83a)
i created the profile, selected it, hit save setting, closed automkv, reopened and... the correct profile is selected and in advanced profiles editing both the command line and the text of profile are correct

can you write exact what you have done ? (or write in the italian forum... no prob)

thanks!

BHH

P.S Italians do it better... ALWAYS !!! :D

[payne_en_diaz]

@payne_en_diaz
reinstall ffdshow (link on first post) and let be the check as proposed.
then reboot. and try to ear in mpc
BHH
:thanks:
I reinstalled the ffdshow from link and rebooted and tried another encode.I am still unable to hear any audio from the WMV file I created (if it is even in there).
There is a large wav file in the temp folder that I can only play in Winamp.
Media player classic won't play it,Virtual dub won't play it,Windows media encoder won't encode to WMA.
I guess there must be a problem on my system.
Do you know which files are related to encoding and decoding I could try uninstalling and reinstalling to start over?

[buzzqw]

maybe you have installed to much codec pack..

try removing all codec packs (if any)

reboot often

the reinstall only avisynth/xvid/ffdshow

if fails try http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=CCCP_Insurgent

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

:thanks:
I reinstalled the ffdshow from link and rebooted and tried another encode.I am still unable to hear any audio from the WMV file I created (if it is even in there).
There is a large wav file in the temp folder that I can only play in Winamp.
Media player classic won't play it,Virtual dub won't play it,Windows media encoder won't encode to WMA.
I guess there must be a problem on my system.
Do you know which files are related to encoding and decoding I could try uninstalling and reinstalling to start over?

Ok I tried just encoding only 1 chapter as a test(so it wouldn't take so long) and I am able to hear audio and see video.:)
Not sure why I cant get the whole movie to work.

[buzzqw]

ok... what is your OS ?
is the file system is NTSF or FAT ?
how long is your movie ?

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

Os-Windows XP SP2 updated
File sys-NTSF
Movie length-3.29g

[buzzqw]

3.29g ???

what ? tell me hour, minutes, sec

thanks!

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

Sorry,:o 1:34:12
1 hour 34 minutes 12 seconds

[buzzqw]

ok, how big is the full wav file ?
have you downmixed to stereo (select stereo on automkv downmixing mode) ?

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

The full wav file in the temp folder is 2.02g, 94 minutes 17 seconds.

I didn't have to select stereo,it seems to select by default.The other choice is mono.

[buzzqw]

please try this build on a full encode

http://www.64k.it/andres/data/a/AutoMKV083b.exe

:thanks:

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

Ok i'll post back in about 8 hrs :)

[buzzqw]

thanks!

i hope this will fix your issue... i haven't other ideas...

BHH

[payne_en_diaz]

Did you see something that could have been wrong?

[buzzqw]

only when encoding to wmv automkv will pre-render the audio file to wav and wav file has an intrinsicaly block at 2gb (or 4gb... depends on signed bits...)... with this build i allow extended wav file so will be near no size limit

BHH

[Unrealbr]

Unrealbr, might I suggest you read THIS (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96137) in its entirety??

Sorry, i didnt meant anything like that.
I think i'll post somewhere else about my problem.

[buzzqw]

@Unrealbr
we want to help but without info is impossible :)

BHH

[slipstream3d]

seems that some audio samples are corrupted. please try open the delaycut log (movie xxx.log), are errors reported ?

you can also try to re-rip the audio (just re-demux it)


The log file you suggest looks exactly the same as one of the episodes that worked - there are no errors or anything. I've also re-demuxed the audio about 8 times ;)

I redid one of the episodes that didn't work with Nero using the Coding Technologies encoder instead - it works fine, although the resulting file is larger than the other Nero one that actually worked correctly. A bug in the Nero encoder maybe?

[Unrealbr]

@Unrealbr
we want to help but without info is impossible :)

BHH

If i had any clues of what it could be i'd post but all i know is that i am having errors when trying to encode mp4 audio with automkv. It seems to be an neroacc problem but i've already updated it and it still wont work.

16:48:01 0.83a - - - - - - - - - - - - - START JOBS - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
16:48:01 Selected Input file: D:\sysreset\download\Projeto Air Gear\Air Gear 14.avi
16:48:01 Selected Output dir: C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\temp\
16:48:01 Selected Final Name: Air Gear 14
16:48:01 Selected Container type: MKV
16:48:01 Selected Encoder: X264
16:48:01 Selected Size: 150
16:48:01 Selected Slice: 1
16:48:01 Selected Profile: Encoding-Highprofile.xml
16:48:01 Selected Width: Automatic
16:48:01 Selected Resizer: SimpleResize (neutral soft)
16:48:01 Selected Filters: NONE
16:48:01 Selected Deinterlacer: AUTO
16:48:01 Selected Field Order: AUTO
16:48:01 Track Language 1: Air Gear 14.avi
16:48:01 Audio Codec 1: Nero AAC
16:48:01 Audio Quality 1: 0.30
16:48:01 Audio Channel 1: Stereo
16:48:01 Advanced Audio Settings DUMP Track 1
16:48:01 Nero Option Profiles: AUTO --- Encoding Mode: Quality
16:48:01 CCT Option Profiles: AUTO --- Channel Options: AUTO
16:48:01 Lame Settings: ABR
16:48:01 Audio Normalization: 1
16:48:01 Frequency: AUTO --- Tempo : NONE
16:48:01 Pitch: NONE --- Other Add :
16:48:01 Advanced Audio Settings DUMP Track 2
16:48:01 Nero Option Profiles: AUTO --- Encoding Mode: Quality
16:48:01 CCT Option Profiles: AUTO --- Channel Options: AUTO
16:48:01 Lame Settings: ABR
16:48:01 Audio Normalization: 1
16:48:01 Frequency: AUTO --- Tempo : NONE
16:48:01 Pitch: NONE --- Other Add :
16:48:01
16:48:14 Number of Frames: 34883
16:48:14 Framerate: 23.976000
16:48:14 Movie length in Seconds: 1455
16:48:14 Movie Width/Height: 640/480
16:50:13 Processing completed. Type is determined to be progressive.
16:50:13 Encoding C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\temp\ to NeroAAC with 0.30 quality
16:50:27 Unable to encode Audio, trying with DirectShowSource!
16:50:27 Encoding C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\temp\ to NeroAAC with 0.30 quality
16:50:39 Unable to encode Audio, even with DirectShowSource!, trying with FFmpeg!


With FFmpeg it will do but it will convert to mp3 and thats not supposed to happen. :(

[buzzqw]

redid one of the episodes that didn't work with Nero using the Coding Technologies encoder instead - it works fine, although the resulting file is larger than the other Nero one that actually worked correctly. A bug in the Nero encoder maybe?

truly don't know!
maybe interesting to post that sample to nero for analyzing


D:\sysreset\download\Projeto Air Gear\Air Gear 14.avi

what kind of audio is inside this avi ?

if you create a simple avs like this

directshowsource("D:\sysreset\download\Projeto Air Gear\Air Gear 14.avi")

and open it in mediaplayer classic.. can you ear the audio ?

BHH

[Unrealbr]

Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 192Kbps [Stream 01]

Yep i can hear the audio and the video shows too with that .avs

[TheRyuu]

How come when I check "xvid cartoon" everything goes black and white on the encode?

[Unrealbr]

How come when I check "xvid cartoon" everything goes black and white on the encode?

Maybe you are checking the wrong button.
Below the XVID CARTOON there is the GREYSCALE button, watch for it.
Xvid cartoon works fine for me here.

[sunflash10]

Xvid cartoon did the same thing to me. I double checked and I did not have greyscale checked, just xvid cartoon.

[TheRyuu]

Maybe you are checking the wrong button.
Below the XVID CARTOON there is the GREYSCALE button, watch for it.
Xvid cartoon works fine for me here.

I'm not blind...lol ;) :p

Yea, Xvid Cartoon is checked.
Just to make sure, were talking about this xvid cartoon right?
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6906/xvidcarlr3.jpg

Also, back on Colormatrix:
What do they do ?l

I know what color matrix does, I just want to know why the default is Rec.709->601 when from going from a DVD to PC, shouldn't it be Rec.601->709, or is it just personal preference. In reality, I'm trying to figure out what to use when.

[payne_en_diaz]

only when encoding to wmv automkv will pre-render the audio file to wav and wav file has an intrinsicaly block at 2gb (or 4gb... depends on signed bits...)... with this build i allow extended wav file so will be near no size limit

BHH
Well I tried the new build but unfortunately got the same result.
The wave file was the exact same size as the other encode.Except I couldn't open this one with winamp like I could the last.
I'm going to try a different movie and see if that works.

[payne_en_diaz]

Well I found something interesting out.When encoding to WMV.
The wav file produced when I let Automkv do the whole process is about 2.02 GB (2,172,629,080 bytes) in size.
The wav file produced when I run the DGIndex program that is within the Automkv folder turns out to be 1.01 GB (1,086,314,540 bytes).
I don't know what that means or if it helps but its exactly twice as large.:helpful:

[buzzqw]

@sunflash10
YOU are right!
when checked cartoon mode in xvid is used both cartoon mode AND greyscale !

Fixed in next update! Thanks!

@wizboy11

from colormatrix readme...

The reason this is useful is that MPEG-2 streams typically use Rec.709, whereas most computer software (XviD/DivX decoders, etc...) assumes Rec.601. Thus, if you take an MPEG-2 stream using Rec.709 and pass it as YUV to a decoder which upsamples to RGB using Rec.601 the colors will be slightly off. In this case, you could use ColorMatrix to convert the video from Rec.709 to Rec.601 and then pass it to the decoder.

@payne_en_diaz
can you try to encode with other pc ?

BHH

[nx6]

@sunflash10
YOU are right!
when checked cartoon mode in xvid is used both cartoon mode AND greyscale !

Fixed in next update! Thanks!

Nah, lets leave it the way it is and change the label to "Olde Timey Cartoon". :D

[buzzqw]

@payne_en_diaz

please REDOWNLOAD the http://www.64k.it/andres/data/a/AutoMKV083b.exe

this will fix the file size... and i hope audio problems !

BHH

[delacroixp]

Also, back on Colormatrix:
What do they do ?

I know what color matrix does, I just want to know why the default is Rec.709->601 when from going from a DVD to PC, shouldn't it be Rec.601->709, or is it just personal preference. In reality, I'm trying to figure out what to use when.
I'm sure that you know what they do... I'm just fascinated with colour, matrices and cartoons in general so I was hoping for some free info...
The only cartoon I've encoded to date is The Aristocats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocats), though my nephews are nuts about Bleach and DragonballZ.

While The Aristocats is pretty old (1970)... animations are now, perhaps, more popular than ever before... mostly on TV I guess...
I suppose, true 3D computer animations, like Shrek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrek) and Shrek2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrek2) are the next step... with the possibility for absolute photo-realism...


:):D:eek:
Pascal

[FrieWiled]

buzzqw, i think i have a problem with 0.83 releases, LAME does not show up as an encoding option. Currently using 0.81b and works fine.

[buzzqw]

tested with 0.83 and 0.83b ... no problem here

what happen if you open mkvmaudio.avs in virtualdub ?

BHH

[FrieWiled]

buzzqw, it says no audio stream found, which is odd, due to the fact i can use AC3 (i.e. Copy original).

EDIT: and i was able to use LAME in previous 0.81b.