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Olivier C.
17th October 2015, 05:25
Olivier C., large kernels are a bit tricky indeed. They are very costly as well. Trying to split the operations into a horizontal and vertical filter is hard for Sobel, Prewitt and other signal detection filters if you want to keep the three color channels.
Thanks for your reply.
I tried several filters up to 9x9, my old radeon 7950 can handle them up to UHD/4K. The only limit i can see now is the old ps3.0 when i want to mix i.e. a 7x7 sobel filter with some sharpen and denoise filters. It could be very nice if an existing player could handle ps4.0 (the last release ps6.0 is not needed).
Envoyé de mon LG-H815 en utilisant Tapatalk
Raylan Givens
17th October 2015, 10:42
MPC-HC doesn't respond to any hotkeys like Ctrl+C to close media playback or Alt+F4? Do you exit FS with double click or Alt+Enter? Could you see if this build changes anything http://1drv.ms/1OzAhJS ?
I use Alt+Enter and no, shortcuts don't work. Neither ctrl+c nor alt+F4. I get the kind of blackscreen like the monitor is off. The dark blackscreen, not like I'm in the video mode ( kinda lighter black screen ). Just saying...
Same with build 187
kasper93
17th October 2015, 11:32
How about this one http://1drv.ms/1jtsX5Y ? I hope you don't mind do some testing, because I'm unable to reproduce the issue.
Raylan Givens
17th October 2015, 11:51
This build works, but after I enter fullscreen with alt+enter, it loses focus. I mean, I can't press alt+enter twice in order to get fullscreen in and out. I've to click something to regain focus.
kasper93
17th October 2015, 12:52
This build works, but after I enter fullscreen with alt+enter, it loses focus. I mean, I can't press alt+enter twice in order to get fullscreen in and out. I've to click something to regain focus.
Ok, could you try this one and see if there are remaining issues? http://1drv.ms/1jtsX5Y
Raylan Givens
17th October 2015, 12:55
Nice, it's working fine as it seems.
Volfield
18th October 2015, 07:50
Possible bug. When using XySubFilter DXVA native doesn't work.
huhn
18th October 2015, 08:44
are you sure you didn't mean xy VSfilter?
because it can't work with DXVA native so it isn't used with this filter.
DXVA native works fine for me with xy SUBfilter.
Volfield
18th October 2015, 09:46
XySubFilter.
http://imgur.com/s1KWOX4 (http://imgur.com/s1KWOX4)
Edit.
MPC-BE works fine.
Drakoliona
18th October 2015, 10:04
Hello, what is the best between LAV Filters and FFDShow ? Thank's
nijiko
18th October 2015, 10:56
FFDShow was dead over 2 years.
wanezhiling
18th October 2015, 11:23
Possible bug. When using XySubFilter DXVA native doesn't work.
post your filter chain like this: http://i.imgur.com/gru8bTW.png
Volfield
18th October 2015, 11:49
post your filter chain like this: http://i.imgur.com/gru8bTW.png
http://i.imgur.com/OyyGNFD.png
kasper93
18th October 2015, 13:04
Is it with latest XySubFilter and MPC-HC's nightly (https://nightly.mpc-hc.org/)? Seems to work fine for me.
Volfield
18th October 2015, 14:53
Lastest XySubfilter (3.1.0.746), MPC-HC (1.7.9.181.x64), LAV 0.66.0. No matter if i use internal or external version. On MPC-BE works fine. Tested on two diffrent machines (both win 10).
kasper93
18th October 2015, 15:07
And you are saying that it works if you disable XySubFilter? I don't see why this could happen.
Volfield
18th October 2015, 15:25
Yes. When i use ISR DXVA native works.
wanezhiling
18th October 2015, 16:00
You could try to reset everything (mpc-hc and xy) and then do one step (http://i.imgur.com/AF6yENC.png) only, see whether the problem is gone.
If problem still exists, upload the test file and share it here.
Volfield
18th October 2015, 16:20
Ok found problem. When xy-VSFilter is installed to system dxva native won't work (even when XySubFilter is in use).
wanezhiling
18th October 2015, 17:02
Ok found problem. When xy-VSFilter is installed to system dxva native won't work (even when XySubFilter is in use).
I can confirm now.
huhn
18th October 2015, 17:37
i would say that's a bug.
clsid
18th October 2015, 17:55
It is not a bug, just the way things work with that filter installed. You can solve the problem by adding xyVSFiltter to external filters list and block it.
Olivier C.
18th October 2015, 20:27
I tried several filters up to 9x9, my old radeon 7950 can handle them up to UHD/4K. The only limit i can see now is the old ps3.0 when i want to mix i.e. a 7x7 sobel filter with some sharpen and denoise filters. It could be very nice if an existing player could handle ps4.0 (the last release ps6.0 is not needed).
DirectX11 is currently available in madshi's renderer so it could be great if MPC-HC could manage ps4.0 at least (DX11 --> ps5.0).
An example from MPDN :
protected override IFilter CreateFilter(IFilter sourceFilter)
{
if (!Renderer.IsDx11Avail)
return new NullFilter(); // display blank screen on purpose
// get MPDN to scale image to target size first
sourceFilter += new Resizer { ResizerOption = ResizerOption.TargetSize100Percent };
// apply our blue tint
var blueTint = CompileShader11("BlueTintSm5.hlsl", "ps_5_0")
.Configure(linearSampling: false, arguments: new[] {0.25f, 0.5f, 0.75f});
return new Shader11Filter(blueTint, sourceFilter);
}
madshi
18th October 2015, 21:25
@Olivier, this is more of a wish for madVR than for MPC-HC. madVR supports DX11 presentation, but not custom DX11 pixel shaders atm. That is planned for some future version, but not available right now. The MPC-HC devs can't make that work (for madVR) without madVR implementing support for it first.
Olivier C.
19th October 2015, 01:31
madVR supports DX11 presentation, but not custom DX11 pixel shaders atm.
I didn't know that, thanks Mathias !
kasper93
19th October 2015, 23:08
Ok found problem. When xy-VSFilter is installed to system dxva native won't work (even when XySubFilter is in use).
i would say that's a bug.
It is not a bug, just the way things work with that filter installed. You can solve the problem by adding xyVSFiltter to external filters list and block it.
As of revision 1.7.9.187 MPC-HC will have subtitle renderer selection in output page. This should resolve all issues you have.
madshi
20th October 2015, 07:32
As of revision 1.7.9.187 MPC-HC will have subtitle renderer selection in output page. This should resolve all issues you have.
Very nice!
nijiko
20th October 2015, 12:51
In old times, when I am playing a video file, such as MKV, and I drag an audio file into player, such as DTS, then MKV and DTS will both play together, audio file is as a track.
But now, player will turn to only play the audio file. Why?
kasper93
20th October 2015, 13:23
I don't think that was ever a thing. Drag and drop never added audio track. If you open file and audio file with the same name as video file. It will be loaded automatically. Also you can open it through open file menu.
nijiko
20th October 2015, 15:21
But if I test audio track only, and must rename it, it's too troubled.
SRT/SSA also can drag to add a track.
clsid
20th October 2015, 15:37
It has no way of knowing if you want to load it as a secondary track or as a normal file. It can't read your fucking mind.
Subtitles are different as MPC-HC can't play those as individual files. Every extension listed in Options>Play>Formats can be played by using drag&drop, or added to the playlist.
nijiko
20th October 2015, 15:59
It has no way of knowing if you want to load it as a secondary track or as a normal file. It can't read your fucking mind.
Subtitles are different as MPC-HC can't play those as individual files. Every extension listed in Options>Play>Formats can be played by using drag&drop, or added to the playlist.
I don't think many people use MPC-HC to listen music. Drag and play a standalone audio file to replace a playing video file is a fucking habit.
But all in all, you can judge the length of audio and video file for whether they are relationship.
madshi
20th October 2015, 16:01
It has no way of knowing if you want to load it as a secondary track or as a normal file. It can't read your fucking mind.
I think there are situations in which MPC-HC could guess what the user wants. E.g.:
1) MPC-HC plays a movie file.
2) User drag&drops an audio file.
3) The audio file is in the same folder as the movie file.
4) The audio file runtime is reasonably close to the movie file (let's say it differs no more than 2 minutes or 2%).
In this situation it is rather likely that the user wants to play the audio file together with the movie file. It is just a guess, though, and it might sometimes be wrong, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to implement it this way.
nijiko
20th October 2015, 16:11
I think there are situations in which MPC-HC could guess what the user wants. E.g.:
1) MPC-HC plays a movie file.
2) User drag&drops an audio file.
3) The audio file is in the same folder as the movie file.
4) The audio file runtime is reasonably close to the movie file (let's say it differs no more than 2 minutes or 2%).
In this situation it is rather likely that the user wants to play the audio file together with the movie file. It is just a guess, though, and it might sometimes be wrong, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to implement it this way.
For my testing audio, sometimes audio tracks are not in the same path with the video.
Even though I want to listen an MP3 via MPC-HC, I never drag the MP3 into a MPC-HC window of playing movie.
I think many people are closing the movie window and starting a new one with music.
clsid
20th October 2015, 16:16
MPC-HC doesn't know the length of a track until after it has opened it.
If you want to use a secondary track then either use File>Open or give files the same name. Your use case is far more unique than people that are using drag&drop for playing audio files.
Olivier C.
20th October 2015, 16:20
Or maybe a new entry in the File Menu, just below the "Load Subtitle" entry :
"Load Subtitle..."
"Load Audio track..." --> new entry which could allow a user to add dynamically a track audio... without even having to demux / remux the video file.
(Default folder = current video folder)
kasper93
20th October 2015, 16:22
Or maybe a new entry in the File Menu, just below the "Load Subtitle" entry :
"Load Subtitle..."
"Load Audio track..." --> new entry which could allow a user to add dynamically a track audio... without even having to demux / remux the video file.
(Default folder = current video folder)
It is already available... Open file menu...
Olivier C.
20th October 2015, 16:31
It is already available... Open file menu...
I didn't realize that, very nice feature.
Thanks kasper93
nijiko
20th October 2015, 16:32
Or maybe a new entry in the File Menu, just below the "Load Subtitle" entry :
"Load Subtitle..."
"Load Audio track..." --> new entry which could allow a user to add dynamically a track audio... without even having to demux / remux the video file.
(Default folder = current video folder)
This method is too mad for wasting time.
Sometimes audio tracks are not in the same path with video.
And audio filename perhaps are not same with video. E.g, add some notes in filename, such as "delay 1 sec".
All in all, few people want to listen music via MPC-HC with drag a music to replace a playing movie.
In old times, drag an audio into a window playing audio, player will change to play the new file. And drag an audio into a window playing video, audio will become a track, and continue playing.
But in new versions, it's changed and inconvenience.
clsid
20th October 2015, 16:56
Filename does not need to be an exact match. This will load just fine:
"moviename.mkv"
"moviename 1 second delay.ac3"
HeadlessCow
20th October 2015, 17:10
It is already available... Open file menu...
Perhaps you could link this to using ctrl or shift when dragging and dropping the file? Like how Windows Explorer lets you control copy/move functionality when you drop a file.
clsid
20th October 2015, 17:37
Ctrl is already used for appending to playlist.
chros
21st October 2015, 17:29
Is CUVID decoder broken inside internal LAV in the current 1.7.9.190? External LAV 0.66 CUVID works fine.
djsolidsnake86
22nd October 2015, 01:53
change aspect ration doesn't work currently
with windows 10 happen sometimes when open a video that stutter going in fullscreen, need to double click to window and dclick again to fullscreen for remove stuttering
anyone has these problems?
i'm using madvr last version
truexfan81
22nd October 2015, 02:14
change aspect ration doesn't work currently
with windows 10 happen sometimes when open a video that stutter going in fullscreen, need to double click to window and dclick again to fullscreen for remove stuttering
anyone has these problems?
i'm using madvr last version
have you tried using a different media player to make sure this is not a madvr issue?
vBm
22nd October 2015, 10:43
have you tried using a different media player to make sure this is not a madvr issue?
Or at least different renderer.
madshi
22nd October 2015, 11:18
Stuttering is unlikely to be an MPC-HC issue. Changing aspect ratio not working will be fixed soon. I've added a new API, which kasper93 plans to add support for, which should fix that issue.
chros
22nd October 2015, 14:14
Is CUVID decoder broken inside internal LAV in the current 1.7.9.190? External LAV 0.66 CUVID works fine.
Sorry, again, it was the fault of my laptop, after a restart it works well again. (I don't know why but after 2-3 times I put Win8.1 into sleep it starts to do strange thing, only a restart helps :) )
So, next time I'll check my problems twice before reporting :)
Mate94
22nd October 2015, 18:21
EVR-CP with DXVA resizer when? :3
JanWillem32
22nd October 2015, 19:07
I've attempted to use the DXVA resizer in my version of the renderer in the past. It's quite a menace to configure. Especially when using pre-resizing pixel shaders. Also, none of the three big GPU manufacturers linearize the gamma before resizing. The quality of DXVA resizing isn't that great compared to quality methods in pixel shaded resizers.
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