Media Player Classic - Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - v1.7.13

[minaust]

Well, I just changed the video renderer to EVR. Still the same problem. So I changed it back to madVR - bingo! Subtitles have mysteriously reappeared. Very odd.
I thank you for your assistance. My subtitle troubles are at an end.
You're most welcome. Keep in mind that there is a batch file in your madvr folder to reset madvr back to defaults. Don't be shy about using it if things get screwy again.

[FireFreak111]

Has the MPC-HC team seen this?

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/WHT202

Information about the Windows 10 audio stack. Interesting stuff in there. Also this http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/OWDHOL301 .

Of course, MPC-HC would need to become a Universal app to take advantage of alot of that, and DirectShow isn't supported there.

[jkauff]

Has the MPC-HC team seen this?

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/WHT202

Information about the Windows 10 audio stack. Interesting stuff in there. Also this http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/WinHEC/2015/OWDHOL301 .

Of course, MPC-HC would need to become a Universal app to take advantage of alot of that, and DirectShow isn't supported there.
It was also announced that Windows 10 will support 8K video. I guess MS expects it to stick around for awhile.

[73ChargerFan]

I read late last year at AVSForum that the Japanese were skipping 4k and going direct to 8k, so this isn't premature.

[Blackfyre]

Guys I think someone has either hacked your Facebook Page or your automation system has entered "full-retard" mode and began posting old news. I've attached an image, this is happening right now.

[eddman]

The user account control dialog box causes MPC-HC to freeze for 1-2 seconds. It doesn't happen with MPC-BE.

Could it be a bug?

[tjcinnamon]

is there a way to navigate dvd menus from DVD isos? I wasn't able to click around.

[Duffy Moon]

I find it difficult to do that in full screen, so I navigate in window mode.

[Stereodude]

is there a way to navigate dvd menus from DVD isos? I wasn't able to click around.
Are you running XP?

There are keyboard shortcuts. Look under the keys settings.

[Warner306]

I wrote a tutorial on how integrate MPC-HC into Kodi and had a question I couldn't answer. Could you help this poster with his issue regarding remote navigation of DVD menus?

"I have one question about using playing DVD folders in MPC-HC.
Just like you I am using Harmony one and MCE remote to control my HTPC.
However, I cannot get the remote to navigate the DVD menu.
I mapped the up/down remote keys to DVD navigation actions and Enter key for DVD activate (assuming that maps to the OK key on the remote).
I was assuming while navigating DVD menu, the DVD navigation keys would take precedence over seek operations.
But that doesn't seem to work, any suggestions?

TIA"

[tjcinnamon]

Are you running XP?

There are keyboard shortcuts. Look under the keys settings.

I'm on windows 8. I'll give the key mappings a try. Figured the mouse would work.

[Stereodude]

I'm on windows 8. I'll give the key mappings a try. Figured the mouse would work.
FWIW, the mouse works for me on Windows 7, but doesn't on Windows XP.

[cyberbeing]

@kasper93
The following commit causes MPC-HC to crash with Haali Renderer + XySubFilter (always load):
CMemSubPicAllocator: Reuse allocated memory. (https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/4a26ac6bbc288e1db97921b99ffc7561ddfe1cb8)

[yahyoh]

I have little problem , i cant set MPC as default program for all media formats its grayed out even after running it as admin. :(

http://i.imgur.com/1hC4pI6.png

[LigH]

Not sure if that's the point, but ... you can only set it as default program for the enabled file associations. If all file associations are disabled, for which of 'none' shall it be the default?

[madshi]

@devs,

in the "Playback -> Output" settings dialog, there's an "X" noted for madVR's "Rotation" capability. That was correct until recently, but the latest madVR build should now support rotated displays just fine. So could you change that to a check? Thanks!

[kasper93]

"Rotation" doesn't refer to rotated displays. It is 3D rotation of the video frame. You can try it by using ALT+NUM hotkeys.

[madshi]

Ah, cool! Didn't know that one...

[Xebika]

How far is from releasing a new final build??

[kasper93]

@kasper93
The following commit causes MPC-HC to crash with Haali Renderer + XySubFilter (always load):
CMemSubPicAllocator: Reuse allocated memory. (https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commit/4a26ac6bbc288e1db97921b99ffc7561ddfe1cb8)

XySubFilter support for Haali Renderer will be fixed in next nightly.

[nijiko]

Whether MPC-HC is be planed to support ASIO driver for soundcard? :confused:

[Motenai Yoda]

Hi guys, I have udpdate some hours ago a pc of my running 8.1u1 x64 and now mpc-hc/lavfilter fail to use hw decoder (only black screen) even with evr or madvr.
Also vlc crash immediately too.

[cyberbeing]

XySubFilter support for Haali Renderer will be fixed in next nightly.

Thanks.

There is also an issue in recent MPC-HC 1.7.8.x nightly VSFilter.dll builds, which appears to have broken subtitle output with TextSub (avisynth plugin).

[jkauff]

Whether MPC-HC is be planed to support ASIO driver for soundcard? :confused:
MPC-BE already has a WASAPI driver, but I doubt if you'll see ASIO support in either program.

[nijiko]

MPC-BE already has a WASAPI driver, but I doubt if you'll see ASIO support in either program.

MPC Audio Renderer in MPC-HC is always broken. :angry:

[nijiko]

MPC-BE already has a WASAPI driver, but I doubt if you'll see ASIO support in either program.

First, WASAPI doesn't support Windows XP.
Second, the filter named ASIO Renderer has only x32 bits version, and x64 bits player can't load... WTF...

[jkauff]

First, WASAPI doesn't support Windows XP.
Second, the filter named ASIO Renderer has only x32 bits version, and x64 bits player can't load... WTF...
You're running XP 64-bit, I guess? Do you really need to use the 64-bit version of MPC-HC? If you've found an ASIO filter that works for you, stick with 32-bit.

ASIO was always difficult for developers because it was totally dependent on the implementation in the soundcard's driver. Most player developers would probably consider it legacy technology now anyway, and therefore it seems unlikely that it would show up as a new feature.

[LigH]

Some decoders, especially HEVC, should run faster in 64 bit code. So you may have to decide, either faster decoder or low latency audio output.

[jkauff]

Some decoders, especially HEVC, should run faster in 64 bit code. So you may have to decide, either faster decoder or low latency audio output.
Or get off of XP and have both. ;)

[nijiko]

You're running XP 64-bit, I guess? Do you really need to use the 64-bit version of MPC-HC? If you've found an ASIO filter that works for you, stick with 32-bit.

ASIO was always difficult for developers because it was totally dependent on the implementation in the soundcard's driver. Most player developers would probably consider it legacy technology now anyway, and therefore it seems unlikely that it would show up as a new feature.

No, I have 2 computers, one is very old, running XP 32, another is newer, running 8.1 64.
I think ASIO driver had supplied an interface to programs, so if you use this one, ASIO will works well. Such as some audio player.
Other way, I found mpc-hc64 is better than its 32 in 8.1 64.

[nijiko]

Problem with playing RealVideo 9 and COOK Audio, and such as the codec is very old like this.
MPC-HC said failed to render.
But MPC-BE works fine with Gabest's RealSplitter.
If MPC-HC load the RealSplitter, then it works fine, so I think it's a bug of LAV.

[wanezhiling]

There is no any help without a sample file.

[Vyral]

Hi,
I'm about to uninstall the 32bits version of MPC-HC to install the 64bits version with madVR. Is there a way to keep to keep all my settings between the two versions ?
I know there is an option to export our settings but I see no import option.

[ryrynz]

Hi,
I'm about to uninstall the 32bits version of MPC-HC to install the 64bits version with madVR. Is there a way to keep to keep all my settings between the two versions ?
I know there is an option to export our settings but I see no import option.

They share the same settings. Just export, uninstall then Install 64 bit version, double click the exported registry file (mpc-hc-settings.reg) to import the settings.

[huhn]

just install the 64 bit version you don't even need to uninstall the 32 bit version. all settings should stay the same. at least if you didn't use the setting "store settings in .ini file" option. if you used that you have to copy the ini.

the export option exports exports the registry settings so you just have to double click them to reapply them.

[Vyral]

Ok, thank you both :)

[nijiko]

There is no any help without a sample file.

The videos all have copyright.

Video: RealVideo 4 720x540 30fps 600kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {30345652-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo {05589F80-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 21472
cbFormat: 96

Audio: RealAudio COOK 44100Hz stereo

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {4B4F4F43-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 1
lSampleSize: 14880
cbFormat: 112

Video
ID : 1
Format : RealVideo 4
Codec ID : RV40
Codec ID/Info : Based on AVC (H.264), Real Player 9
Duration : 29mn 45s
Bit rate : 601 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 540 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.051
Stream size : 128 MiB (89%)

Audio
ID : 0
Format : Cooker
Codec ID : cook
Codec ID/Info : Based on G.722.1, Real Player 6
Duration : 29mn 47s
Bit rate : 64.1 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 13.7 MiB (9%)

[wanezhiling]

Mediainfo can help nothing, so the dev can do nothing as well.

[huhn]

The videos all have copyright.

sharing a reasonable short sample is totally tolerated in this forum

[clsid]

You can also share links privately with the developers by using a private message on the forum.

You can easily cut a sample with DGSplit.
http://neuron2.net/dgsplit/dgsplit12.zip

[minaust]

Hi everybody...

I've had both the 32- and 64-bit versions of MPC-HC installed on both of my systems. Both are Windows 7 Professional 64-bit machines with Nvidia hardware. Until yesterday, the 32-bit version used madvr as the renderer, 64-bit used the EVR-CP renderer. When I installed the new version of madvr, I just deleted the 64-bit .ini file, making both use madvr.

Problem - the 64-bit version hard crashes when I try to close it. Playback is beautiful until then. Closing MPC-HC, or attempting to move to the next item in the playlist. Hard crash = MPC-HC freezes and Windows tells me it crashed. No dump file. 32-bit version is completely normal. Identical behavior on both machines, which do not have the same hardware - EVGA GTX-760 in one, EVGA GTX-580 in the other.

MPC-HC is version 1.7.8 stable. OS is as described above.

EDIT: (Emily Litella voice on)
Never mind.
(Emily Litella voice off)
Madshi fixed it. Quick work there!

[sneaker_ger]

Could there anything be done about .srt subtitle drag&drop support for users of XySubFilter? If you do it now it will close the video and try to play the subtitle file as if it were a movie. It only works correctly with the internal subtitle renderer. MPC-BE supports drag&drop even for XySubFilter. Old versions at least activated the internal subtitle renderer in such a case but it broke sometime between 1.7.3.127 and 1.3.7.138. Of course the MPC-BE variant would be preferred.

[kasper93]

No, there is currently no work going on to implement this. Patches are welcome if someone wants to contribute. This is fairly easy to implement, just need someone to do it. :) There are more important and interesting things to work on in MPC-HC. And frankly I don't see any reason why one would prefer XySubFilter over our Internal Subtitle Renderer in general use. Unless of course you use color correction in madVR which I believe is also applied to subtitles.


That say if yuo have any ISR limitations that are bothering you feel free to tell me and I will work on it.

[GCRaistlin]

And frankly I don't see any reason why one would prefer XySubFilter over our Internal Subtitle Renderer in general use.
With XySubFilter, we are able to watch PAL video with NTSC subtitles in non-text format, and vice versa. ISR doesn't allow this.

[kasper93]

Please upload sample file and I will see what can I do.

[sneaker_ger]

No, there is currently no work going on to implement this. Patches are welcome if someone wants to contribute. This is fairly easy to implement, just need someone to do it. :) There are more important and interesting things to work on in MPC-HC. And frankly I don't see any reason why one would prefer XySubFilter over our Internal Subtitle Renderer in general use. Unless of course you use color correction in madVR which I believe is also applied to subtitles.
There are still some cases where XySubFilter is faster/better than MPC-HC, I think cyberbeing posted them somewhere around here recently.

Would it be possible to at least look into the commit that caused the drag&drop to fail completely? It happened somewhere between 1.7.3.127 and 1.3.7.138. Back then you could use XySubFilter and drag&drop. It didn't load it into XySubFilter like MPC-BE but at least it re-activated the internal renderer.

[dansrfe]

i hear crackling noises when using MPC-HC Audio Renderer with WASAPI.

Sometimes the noises go away if I skip back and forth through the video using the arrow keys.

[huhn]

i hear crackling noises when using MPC-HC Audio Renderer with WASAPI.

Sometimes the noises go away if I skip back and forth through the video using the arrow keys.

drag your mouse over at your selected mpc audio renderer and read x-).

a new audio renderer is planned.

[kasper93]

Planned is probably not a good word to describe it. It is basically almost ready, but I don't know when Alex (who develops new renderer) will come back and finish/merge it.

There are still some cases where XySubFilter is faster/better than MPC-HC, I think cyberbeing posted them somewhere around here recently.

Faster in certain cases, yes. Better? I don't know.


Would it be possible to at least look into the commit that caused the drag&drop to fail completely? It happened somewhere between 1.7.3.127 and 1.3.7.138. Back then you could use XySubFilter and drag&drop. It didn't load it into XySubFilter like MPC-BE but at least it re-activated the internal renderer.

I will look later. But IIRC it was done this way to avoid using both renderer at the same time by accident.

[sneaker_ger]

I will look later. But IIRC it was done this way to avoid using both renderer at the same time by accident.
Would it be possible to set XySubFilter to "Hide Subtitles"? That way it would be avoided as well. (Maybe an actual use-case for Clear() (https://github.com/Underground78/mpc-hc/commit/728c810eace8c13fec1bbd7a0f5120eda937ad26)?)

Either way, anything is better than just closing the movie currently playing.