Media Player Classic - Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - v1.7.13

[thrawnrulz68]

I'm not sure if this is a LAV issue or not but I cannot get video to stream in the latest MPC-HC (1.7.6.162). I'm pretty sure that at least Windows Media streams were working at some point on an older build...

Music (M3U, PLS, AAC, OGG) play fine but RealMedia and .asx do not play. Here is a page with RealMedia, Windows Media, and Quicktime samples. None of them play for me in MPC-HC:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/streaming/#RealMedia

Also, when saving a playlist in MPC-HC itself as .asx, the playlist does not open...

Any ideas?

[kasper93]

Any suggestions?

Yes, wait for the next nightly.

[STaRGaZeR]

Yes, wait for the next nightly.

Thanks for looking into it!

[shae]

Is there a way to change the subtitle vertical alignment from bottom to top?

[kasper93]

Sure, go to options->default style and you will find margins and alignment options. You can also edit it during playback in play->subtitles->style dialog.

[DeathAngelBR]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files. Like overnight, out of nowhere. What the heck?

Lastest stable version, win xp sp3, etc.

[DMD]

Good evening.

With the latest version "MPC-HC.1.7.6.211" I have detected a problem with the subtitles "Pgs" blu-ray or MKV HD lossless.

The facts are these:
If the film is done from the beginning, without making any pause, the subtitles are detected and everything works fine.
Instead, if I launch the movie and hit the pause button and then resume from the same point, the subtitles are no longer detected.

For the moment I solved this problem by reinstalling the previous version "MPC-HC.1.7.6.71." with this version does not have this problem.

I ask if it can be solved with later versions.

Thank you

[truexfan81]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files. Like overnight, out of nowhere. What the heck?

Lastest stable version, win xp sp3, etc.

"win xp" ... well enough said upgrade already, its over a decade old let it rest in peace

[clsid]

With the latest version "MPC-HC.1.7.6.211" I have detected a problem with the subtitles "Pgs" blu-ray or MKV HD lossless.I think that is fixed in todays nightly.

[DeathAngelBR]

"win xp" ... well enough said upgrade already, its over a decade old let it rest in peace

That's not even an answer. Everything was working fine till this morning; came back home, turned pc on, opened mkv file and it started to freeze for a few seconds every fucking time.

[JohnLai]

So, no update on the sound volume suddenly become low when user often fast forward seeks?

[Anime Viewer]

That's not even an answer. Everything was working fine till this morning; came back home, turned pc on, opened mkv file and it started to freeze for a few seconds every fucking time.

Have you only tested with new mkv files, or have you tried ones that have worked in the past and still encountered the problem.

Have you updated any codec/filters recently, or installed any new hardware (like a camera)?

[DeathAngelBR]

have you tried ones that have worked in the past and still encountered the problem.

^^ This.

Have you updated any codec/filters recently, or installed any new hardware (like a camera)?

Nope.

[huhn]

did you get the same problem with MPC-BE or old version that doesn't use lavfilter?

if yes, I guess it's your hard drive.

[DeathAngelBR]

did you get the same problem with MPC-BE or old version that doesn't use lavfilter?

if yes, I guess it's your hard drive.

***Three*** hard drives failing at the same time? There are no bad sectors in any of them.

edit: a 7GB m2ts file opened instantly.

[huhn]

***Three*** hard drives failing at the same time? There are no bad sectors in any of them.

edit: a 7GB m2ts file opened instantly.

yeah I should have know you have 3 disk my fail. I wish you good luck in finding a solution...

[DeathAngelBR]

yeah I should have know you have 3 disk my fail. I wish you good luck in finding a solution...

I'm sorry if I sounded rude. However it's definitly not a faulty drive, as I have just tested opening the same files directly from MPC-HC menu and works normally.

[LigH]

Did you accidently enable INI file usage in MPC-HC?

[DMD]

I think that is fixed in todays nightly.

This is good news. :)
It 'nice to see that there is a great deal of attention to this project.

Greetings

[DeathAngelBR]

Did you accidently enable INI file usage in MPC-HC?

No...

[jkauff]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files. Like overnight, out of nowhere. What the heck?

Lastest stable version, win xp sp3, etc.
I get this behavior when my "green" hard drives are in a low-power state and have to wake up. Going through the menu is enough to spin them up, so it's only a problem double-clicking on a file.

[shae]

Sure, go to options->default style and you will find margins and alignment options. You can also edit it during playback in play->subtitles->style dialog.

Thanks. I mean relative to the subtitle box, not the video frame.
When it's one line I sometimes want it top aligned below the frame, rather than with an empty line first.

[clsid]

So, no update on the sound volume suddenly become low when user often fast forward seeks?
That can happen if you enable volume normalize, but disable regain volume.

Perhaps it would be better if that option is removed and just always enabled.

[clsid]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files. Like overnight, out of nowhere. What the heck?

Lastest stable version, win xp sp3, etc.
Use Process Monitor to see what happens during those few seconds.

If it really only happens with mkv files, then my guess would be: old version of Haali splitter + linked files option enabled + many files in a single folder.

[DeathAngelBR]

Use Process Monitor to see what happens during those few seconds.

explorer.exe cpu usage goes up to 25% and memory usage up to whatever is the file size, briefly before the mkv file opens.

If it really only happens with mkv files, then my guess would be: old version of Haali splitter + linked files option enabled + many files in a single folder.

1) I never installed Haali splitter, 2) I don't think I ever enabled that option, 3) I've had over 50 mkv files in a folder and never had problems like this.

[vivan]

When it's one line I sometimes want it top aligned below the frame, rather than with an empty line first.Then use need to use top aligment + around 250 offset from the top... And uncheck "position subtitles relative to the video frame".
But it will screw up when there're >2 lines.

[Anime Viewer]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files.


After a video starts pause it, right click on the video, and select filters. Let us know what is listed there.

[DeathAngelBR]

After a video starts pause it, right click on the video, and select filters. Let us know what is listed there.

http://i.imgur.com/C8PXx3Z.png

[sneaker_ger]

Go into Options->Internal Filter->Splitter and uncheck "Load Matroska Segments from external files".
That's only a work-around to test. It's the same problem clsid hinted at, i.e. when a Matroska file links to external segments it will read (parts of) all Matroska files in the same folder at start-up. This can lead to noticeable pause if there are many files.

[rock]

@DeathAngelBR try changing to 32-bit MPC-HC if you were using 64-bit MPC-HC. dunno, but heard from somewhere that 64-bit version sometimes not good. anyway I suggest you to use ISR, it is better IMHO.

[huhn]

@DeathAngelBR try changing to 32-bit MPC-HC if you were using 64-bit MPC-HC. dunno, but heard from somewhere that 64-bit version sometimes not good. anyway I suggest you to use ISR, it is better IMHO.

he uses 32 bit he uses madVR there is no 64 bit madVR

[DeathAngelBR]

Go into Options->Internal Filter->Splitter and uncheck "Load Matroska Segments from external files".
That's only a work-around to test. It's the same problem clsid hinted at, i.e. when a Matroska file links to external segments it will read (parts of) all Matroska files in the same folder at start-up. This can lead to noticeable pause if there are many files.

It was already unchecked. :(

he uses 32 bit he uses madVR there is no 64 bit madVR

This.

[Anime Viewer]

http://i.imgur.com/C8PXx3Z.png

Based on that I'd recommend disabling the internal LAV filters, install the external LAV filters, and either xy-VSFilter or XYsubfilter to handle your subtitles (are you watching videos with subtitles?). The quick and easy way to do that would be to install KCP which will install and configure those files (as well as MPC-HC) for you. (They have a foreign language edition, so you may want to go with that version).

http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack

Since you're using madVR are you watching videos in Windowed mode or Full Screen Exclusive Mode? Full Screen Exclusive mode has a setting to delay video start by 3 seconds, and if I recall correctly it is enabled by default. If you're watching in Full Screen Exclusive mode that may be giving you the illusion of a freeze when there really isn't one.

[huhn]

I have just tested opening the same files directly from MPC-HC menu and works normally.

did you re register the mkv association?
i guess drag and drop works fine to. did mpc-be works fine?

try a file without subtitle to make sure it has nothing to do with the subtitle.

[hello_hello]

My mpc-hc suddenly started making my pc hang for a few seconds when opening mkv files. Like overnight, out of nowhere. What the heck?

Latest stable version, win xp sp3, etc.

I'm running XP, SP3, and the latest stable MPC-HC. MKVs open as quickly as other file types.

Every time I have an "inexplicable" problem, which doesn't happen much at all, I go into MPC-HC options and reset it. That could very well fix it, and it takes less time to reconfigure the player than it does to find the cause of the problem most of the time.
I'd do the same for MadVR, after having tested MKVs with a different renderer.

[clsid]

Since Explorer.exe is seemingly causing the delay, the cause is most likely a shell extension. For example Icaros, MediaInfo, or Media Preview.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html

[bukem]

In the nightly build 1.7.6.217 (5b18cc4) of MPC-HC the After playback > Play next in the folder option is gone. Please advice.

[foxyshadis]

explorer.exe cpu usage goes up to 25% and memory usage up to whatever is the file size, briefly before the mkv file opens.

Process Monitor isn't Process Explorer; it'll list exactly every file, registry key, etc that each process accesses (and the stack each time -- with that you can tell which filter is the culprit). It should immediately narrow down the cause, although going the log is likely to be huge even if you only capture the hang. It's even possible for it to be a filter that's not on the final graph.

[DeathAngelBR]

Based on that I'd recommend disabling the internal LAV filters, install the external LAV filters, and either xy-VSFilter or XYsubfilter to handle your subtitles (are you watching videos with subtitles?). The quick and easy way to do that would be to install KCP which will install and configure those files (as well as MPC-HC) for you. (They have a foreign language edition, so you may want to go with that version).

http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack

Since you're using madVR are you watching videos in Windowed mode or Full Screen Exclusive Mode? Full Screen Exclusive mode has a setting to delay video start by 3 seconds, and if I recall correctly it is enabled by default. If you're watching in Full Screen Exclusive mode that may be giving you the illusion of a freeze when there really isn't one.

1) I was using the external filters before when this mess started. xysubfilter does weird things to the video playback, like the whole mpc-hc window goes yellow or red or some color.
2) Windowed mode

did you re register the mkv association?

try a file without subtitle to make sure it has nothing to do with the subtitle.

1) Yes.
2) No difference, with or without subs. Weird enough is giant gigabytes mkv files open normally.

Every time I have an "inexplicable" problem, which doesn't happen much at all, I go into MPC-HC options and reset it.

Nope, didn't work.

Since Explorer.exe is seemingly causing the delay, the cause is most likely a shell extension. For example Icaros, MediaInfo, or Media Preview.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html


I'll try.

[DeathAngelBR]

Process Monitor isn't Process Explorer; it'll list exactly every file, registry key, etc that each process accesses (and the stack each time -- with that you can tell which filter is the culprit). It should immediately narrow down the cause, although going the log is likely to be huge even if you only capture the hang. It's even possible for it to be a filter that's not on the final graph.

What am I supposed to look for?

[Anime Viewer]

xysubfilter does weird things to the video playback, like the whole mpc-hc window goes yellow or red or some color.


Have you tried xy-VSFilter, and did it give the same odd window color issue? Did you have any of the "use a separate device for" boxes checked in madVR when you had your color issue, or NNEDI3 options enabled?

Have you tried EVR-Custom instead of madVR to see if that makes a difference?

I don't believe you've mentioned: What gpu is your system using? ATI, Intel, Nvidia?

[DeathAngelBR]

Have you tried xy-VSFilter, and did it give the same odd window color issue?

It works fine.

Did you have any of the "use a separate device for" boxes checked in madVR when you had your color issue, or NNEDI3 options enabled?

Nope.

Have you tried EVR-Custom instead of madVR to see if that makes a difference?

Just did, same results.

I don't believe you've mentioned: What gpu is your system using? ATI, Intel, Nvidia?

ATI HD7850 2GB

[foxyshadis]

What am I supposed to look for?

Check the timestamps, you should have a pretty good idea of approximately when it hung up. Keep the date & time panel open if you need the exact seconds. It should start with all the process initialization junk, you don't care about that, but then you should see a whole list of files being opened, or registry keys queried, or maybe attempts to contact the internet and timing out, at the exact time when it's hung. I'd mostly filter it down to mpc, explorer, and any anti-virus you might use. Hopefully it'll lead you in the right direction.

I still think it might be querying another filter that doesn't make it into the graph, but this filter is the one that hangs up before it finally declines (or it stalls completely and mpc times out trying to add it). Checking your installed filters and filter merits (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/installed_codec.html) might be promising, sort by merit and go down the list.

[DeathAngelBR]

Check the timestamps, you should have a pretty good idea of approximately when it hung up. Keep the date & time panel open if you need the exact seconds. It should start with all the process initialization junk, you don't care about that, but then you should see a whole list of files being opened, or registry keys queried, or maybe attempts to contact the internet and timing out, at the exact time when it's hung. I'd mostly filter it down to mpc, explorer, and any anti-virus you might use. Hopefully it'll lead you in the right direction.

That's a bit too much work for me, and the screen lags like hell when scrolling.

I still think it might be querying another filter that doesn't make it into the graph, but this filter is the one that hangs up before it finally declines (or it stalls completely and mpc times out trying to add it). Checking your installed filters and filter merits (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/installed_codec.html) might be promising, sort by merit and go down the list.

madVR is half way down the list, but I doubt that means anything as gigabyte sized mkv files open normally. LAV filters are right on top along with 3 MPEG video/audio decoders.

[shae]

Then use need to use top aligment + around 250 offset from the top... And uncheck "position subtitles relative to the video frame".
But it will screw up when there're >2 lines.I need it to work with both 1 and 2 lines. Looks like I'll have to use an external subtitles filter. Though, I'm not actually sure if ffdshow supports top-alignment.

[JohnLai]

Recently, I have few file with external .ass subtitle. Now, since the .ass file doesn't conform to specification, when I play the media and the subtitle being loaded, there is warning pop up ; "Unknown style found:Alternate, changed to "Default" with option of pressing 'cancel' to ignore.

Problem is, since I got 52 episodes, every time I launch the media, I will need to manually click 'Ignore'.

Is there any way to automatically ignore the warning by default?

[shae]

Might be simpler to fix the ASS files. Try loading and resaving in Subtitle Workshop (http://subworkshop.sourceforge.net/).

[vi]

Where does MPC-HC store the downloaded subtitles ?

[LouieChuckyMerry]

Hello, and thanks for Media Player Classic Home Cinema :) . I've installed it on my Windows 7-NVIDIA 5400M laptop and have good results outputing video with the Enhanced Video Renderer. However, when I go to Options/Miscellaneous and adjust the brightness there's no change in playback brightness, even if I slide it to "100" (and even after restarting MPC-HC). Please, any suggestions to fix this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

[kasper93]

@vi: In memory, you can save them (play->save subtitle...)

@LouieChuckyMerry: Try changing gpu driver settings. Possibly check option "use player options" or alike.