ffdshow tryout project : HD audio discussion

[Andy o]

I don't think it was a difficult question to respond but i'm sure you've been awared you have to use one of tulli's EDID override drivers for your non-working AVR like Denon, Sony or Pioneer? :)

What does it fix with Pioneers? Last I knew, the trouble we were having with Pioneers was no DTS-HD with ffdshow, but it does work with WinDVD 10, so I don't think it was EDID. Did Tulli's patch fix this specific problem for anyone? I might have missed it.

[Andy o]

Just noticed that a new setting is available in MPC-HC:

'MPC Audio Renderer'.

What does this exactly do?
Is Reclock not needed/usable any more with this setting?

Actually ReClock doesn't work at all with HD bitstreaming, so you'll need to disable it anyway. MPC Audio Renderer is a renderer albain made specifically for this project. They've added it now to the MPC-HC SVN builds, but people have been using it for longer than that.

[Browncoat]

Is Reclock not needed/usable any more with this setting?
Yes, if you use Reclock to get wasapi. MPC Audio Render output is wasapi exclusive mode.

[Andy o]

You either use ReClock or MPC Audio Renderer, both are audio renderers, so if you use one, the other one is not needed.

[Skinleech]

Hey guys I feel kinda dumb.

Im working around this for 2 days now.

Am I missing something or is a Xonar+ATI 4850 not working?

I allways read that the 4xxx not works, but I have bought a xonar specially for this.

I tried every ffdshow build in this thread and also read all the 33 pages... I feel kinda tired of this :)

actual Setup:
win 7 x64
MPC-HC v1.3.1418.0
ffdshow 3155 (from this thread)
Mpc audio render / arcsoft audio render


Only thing I can manage to get work is 6 Channel wave output of the core.

Or the DTS/DD core bitstreamed.

But not the DTS-HD neither the TrueHD.

Would be real nice if someone helps me before I get really mad :)

I have a Xonar and on-board Nvidia 8300 and only have issues with eac3.

I use MPC-HC, can't recall the build, it's about 2 weeks old, along with the Arcsoft renderer, and one of the recent beta versions of ffdshow. This is on Win 7 x64

Are you sure the Arcsoft renderer is loading? I have it set as the preferred decoder in the external filters section and in the output section of MPC.

Xonar drivers should matter, I currently use 17.73.

[THX-UltraII]

You either use ReClock or MPC Audio Renderer, both are audio renderers, so if you use one, the other one is not needed.

but PAL-speeddown is not possible anymore without reclock so the new renderer is a no-go for me :(

[Andy o]

You really aren't losing much if you don't bitstream. Only format that can't be decoded fully right now is DTS-HD (and MA), for all others, you can just decode in ffdshow and keep using ReClock.

[st0niMah0ni]

Thanks for all the replies.

What is your AVR?

I got a Onkyo TX SR 806 7.1 AV-Receiver.

Are you sure the Arcsoft renderer is loading?

Yes of course Im sure.

I made a .bat to register the audio render in the arcsoft tmt3 folder.
Also I choosed it in the dropdown of MPC-HC´s output options.

Xonar drivers are latest win7 drivers.

[Skinleech]

Well sorry for asking.

I mention it because depsite choosing it as the Output renderer, it didn't always work for me when Ac3 and DTS were checked for bitstream. Waveout or defaultsound would load in those cases.

It is only when I have Arcsoft renderer selected in both external filters and the output section that it works for me. Having it registered is not the same as having it selected as preferred in the external filters section.

Have you tried setting the Xonar media types only box in ffdhsow audio properties?

[st0niMah0ni]

Having it registered is not the same as having it selected as preferred in the external filters section.

Thank you pal . I will give this a try too. Thought it wouldnt make any sense to register as external filter when adding it with windows commandline.

And yeah the option in ffdshow where its only check for xonar formats is enabled.

greetz


[SOLVED]

Thank you skinleech so much, you are great thank for your quick reply.

I needed to untick the AC3 and DTS passtrough option.

Now I have working TrueHD in MKV with 1920x800 cropped bars.

This is great guys.

Big Big thx to albain who made it and rica for all the work. This is unbelieveble.

You made my day guys :)

[Andy o]

Even if you set it to preferred in external filters, it might not connect. For instance, the MPC Renderer doesn't connect when audio switcher is enabled. Same, other renderers/filters don't like to work well with other filters. To be sure, you should click on Play->Filters. That will show you what's being used.

[Skinleech]

Glad it's sorted.

It should work with ac3 and DTS selected though - with them checked do as Andy o suggests above and see if it does actually load the Arcsoft renderer. It didn;t for me until I did both steps I noted in my previous posts.

[clsid]

I would love to see a summary of all situations where bitstreaming works successfully. Perhaps one of the frequent posters in this thread can make such a summary and post an updated one once in a while? Or someone starts with a small list, and others quote it and add new entries.
I think such information would be very useful for newcomers in this topic.

The required info would be for example:
Audio format | OS | Graphics card | Audio card | Graphics driver | Audio driver | Audio renderer | Any non-default settings for MPC and ffdshow

[SamuriHL]

It's pretty much summed up in the first post. Albain keeps updating it. :)

[blackEyEz]

Thanks all for the great work, could MediaPortal bitstream HD audio when i follow the steps in the first post?

[SamuriHL]

Guys I just made a fun discovery that might help some of you that are having issues. I unregistered mpc audio renderer and installed MPC-HC that has it included. DTS-HD MA all of a sudden was choppy and having all kinds of pops and skips and annoyances. Humorously, I use Direct Sound as my renderer. Um, WHAT? :) Then I remembered. My unregister.bat file also unregistered the mpeg file splitter from the stand alone download package. I re-registered that and suddenly all was smooth again. No problems. So, make sure you have the mpeg file splitter registered if you're having issues and see if that helps.

[David602]

Guys I just made a fun discovery that might help some of you that are having issues. I unregistered mpc audio renderer and installed MPC-HC that has it included. DTS-HD MA all of a sudden was choppy and having all kinds of pops and skips and annoyances. Humorously, I use Direct Sound as my renderer. Um, WHAT? :) Then I remembered. My unregister.bat file also unregistered the mpeg file splitter from the stand alone download package. I re-registered that and suddenly all was smooth again. No problems. So, make sure you have the mpeg file splitter registered if you're having issues and see if that helps.


Where can we download the MPC MPEG SPLITTER? and How do we register it?

I've been trying to get this working with my Xonar & Pioneer receiver (that bitstreams DTS HD MA & D TRUE HD just fine w/ TMT3) but having all sorts of issues w/ FFDSHOW & MPC. I just un-installed HAALI to use the MPC MPEG Splitter instead (per the 1st page post by Albain) but it doesn't seem to be working.

Also, I registered the arcsoft audio renderer and it doesn't show as one of the drop-down options in MPC HC.

Also - just to confirm, when playing a stream, in my systray, I should see the blue FFDSHOW audio icon but NOT the FFDSHOW video, correct?

Currently, the red FFDSHOW video box lights up, MPC isn't using hardware acceleration and the FFDSHOW audio box doesn't show up.

I'll try un-installing FFDSHOW & MPC and reinstall both but I'm trying to understand how to enable the MPC MPEG Splitter.

Can you recommend a good tool for changing the merit of these codecs or is there a simpler way?

Is there a specific beta build of FFDSHOW & MPC that you recommend.



Thanks Samurai - I see your posts all over (AVSFORUM, Slysoft, doom9, etc..) and really appreciate all the work you're doing to help the community.

And of course, thanks to Albain & all the testers.

[David602]

I would love to see a summary of all situations where bitstreaming works successfully. Perhaps one of the frequent posters in this thread can make such a summary and post an updated one once in a while? Or someone starts with a small list, and others quote it and add new entries.
I think such information would be very useful for newcomers in this topic.

The required info would be for example:
Audio format | OS | Graphics card | Audio card | Graphics driver | Audio driver | Audio renderer | Any non-default settings for MPC and ffdshow



Agreed - the front page post contains about half of the information needed. I've spent about 10-12 hours just searching through all information here and just when I think I've gathered it all, I find there are 2-3 other settings or steps to take. I think some of the experts here forget all the little things they do to setup their systems.

Once I get mine working, i'll post full settings with screenshots.

[SamuriHL]

Where can we download the MPC MPEG SPLITTER? and How do we register it?

I've been trying to get this working with my Xonar & Pioneer receiver (that bitstreams DTS HD MA & D TRUE HD just fine w/ TMT3) but having all sorts of issues w/ FFDSHOW & MPC. I just un-installed HAALI to use the MPC MPEG Splitter instead (per the 1st page post by Albain) but it doesn't seem to be working.

Also, I registered the arcsoft audio renderer and it doesn't show as one of the drop-down options in MPC HC.

Also - just to confirm, when playing a stream, in my systray, I should see the blue FFDSHOW audio icon but NOT the FFDSHOW video, correct?

Currently, the red FFDSHOW video box lights up, MPC isn't using hardware acceleration and the FFDSHOW audio box doesn't show up.

I'll try un-installing FFDSHOW & MPC and reinstall both but I'm trying to understand how to enable the MPC MPEG Splitter.

Can you recommend a good tool for changing the merit of these codecs or is there a simpler way?

Is there a specific beta build of FFDSHOW & MPC that you recommend.



Thanks Samurai - I see your posts all over (AVSFORUM, Slysoft, doom9, etc..) and really appreciate all the work you're doing to help the community.

And of course, thanks to Albain & all the testers.

It's part of the stand alone filters package.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

You can get it there. You only need the MpegSplitter.ax file from it. You can register it by opening an admin cmd prompt and typing "regsvr32 path\to\file\MpegSplitter.ax" without the quote and obviously with the right path to the file.

As for your other questions, I won't be able to fully answer them but I'll take a stab. I think you're confusing the mpeg file splitter with the mpc audio renderer. For the Xonar, that's not what you want anyway. You need the arcsoft audio renderer. You've registered the dll in an admin prompt for that? It should be listed in the output options in MPC-HC. Also, I disable all the internal filters in MPC-HC except for MPEG PS/TS/PVA. Under external filters, you need to add ffdshow audio decoder and set it to prefer. You might be able to add the arcsoft audio renderer there, as well, and set it to prefer, also. Not sure if that'll help. Also, in ffdshow properties, make sure TrueHD and DTS-HD MA passthrough are checked, and AC3 and DTS are UNchecked. That seems to help some Xonar users to get this to work.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Hope it helps. I'm sure if I got anything wrong someone will jump in and kill my dream of being helpful. :D

[clsid]

If you enable the internal MPEG PS/TS/PVA source filter in MPC-HC, then you do not need to install the standalone filter. Assuming you only use MPC-HC for playback of course.

[SamuriHL]

If you enable the internal MPEG PS/TS/PVA source filter in MPC-HC, then you do not need to install the standalone filter. Assuming you only use MPC-HC for playback of course.

That's the weird part. In my case, I never changed anything in MPC-HC for settings. I simply updated it and unregistered the mpeg file splitter. After that DTS-HD MA was choppy and broken up. As soon as I re-registered the mpeg file splitter, again making no changes to MPC-HC settings, everything was working again. I don't understand that one.

EDIT: Oh wait, yes I do. I remember now. I kept that only for video. All the audio transform filters are unchecked.

[tetsuo55]

didnt albain make a custom splitter due to dts-hd bistreaming?

[whurlston]

didnt albain make a custom splitter due to dts-hd bistreaming?

The latest SVN builds include his changes (at least for the standalone filters). I'm able to bitstream DTS-HD with them.

[tetsuo55]

The latest SVN builds include his changes (at least for the standalone filters). I'm able to bitstream DTS-HD with them.allright

[SamuriHL]

That's a good question as I have no idea where the splitter I got came from. It's in my "bitstreaming" folder so I assume it's part of the ffdshow packages that albain was giving us back then.

[whurlston]

The latest SVN builds include his changes (at least for the standalone filters). I'm able to bitstream DTS-HD with them.

I'm pretty sure about that but now I'm second guessing myself. I'll double check it later tonight.

Edit:

It was fixed in MpegSplitter.cpp at revision 1331.Revision 1331 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
Modified Sun Nov 8 14:17:17 2009 UTC (6 weeks, 3 days ago) by albain
File length: 42389 byte(s)
Diff to previous 1306
Updated : removed the DTS-HD blocks strip off. Also updated baseclasses to register with the filter category

[albain]

Glad it's sorted.

It should work with ac3 and DTS selected though - with them checked do as Andy o suggests above and see if it does actually load the Arcsoft renderer. It didn;t for me until I did both steps I noted in my previous posts.

Hi

for the xonar you can let ac3/dts checked but you will have to check the compatibility options : checkbox + xonar mode

[tetsuo55]

Hi albain.

I've run all the tests i can think of on my 4770.
currently using: Cat 9.12 hotfix, Realtek 2.39, directsound, custom ini for my AVR (onkyo 607)

All the hd formats try to bitstream (everything looks correct) but the sound is wierd blips and beeps.
dolby digital plus does not bitstream though.

Is there anything i can do to get you more information?

[albain]

Hi albain.

I've run all the tests i can think of on my 4770.
currently using: Cat 9.12 hotfix, Realtek 2.39, directsound, custom ini for my AVR (onkyo 607)

All the hd formats try to bitstream (everything looks correct) but the sound is wierd blips and beeps.
dolby digital plus does not bitstream though.

Is there anything i can do to get you more information?

Hi,

as I and Madshi pointed out in an earlier post, I don't think that HD audio bitstream can work on a radeon 4xxx series.

This is either a matter of drivers or hardware or both.
In all cases ffdshow current implementation is correct, I mean that the bitstream is formatted correctly so there is no reason why it wouldn't work if the chain supports it.

I just don't know why realtek released drivers accepting the HD audio types. Maybe this is because they released a unified driver for the 4 & 5 series and it would work only on the 5 series. Just a thought...

[arestarh]

albain
Hello!
If you have time, Can you look again this post(about problem with translation):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1353131#post1353131

Also I can't open in translation mode dialogs:
http://i044.radikal.ru/0912/8c/4f224226244at.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i044.radikal.ru/0912/8c/4f224226244a.png.html)
And even I manually edit file of localization(add necessary strings), *Add*and *Reset* buttons in both dialogs and dialog *Use ffdshow only in* is not appeared in GUI.

[actarusfleed]

Hi there,
I'm new about this thread.
Are few days that I own the new ATI Radeon 5750 vapor x card.
My setup is:
Win 7 x 64
Driver Catalyst 9.12
MPC HC 1424 (taken fron here (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/))
ffdshow 3166 (taken from here (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/ffdshow-tryouts-project-x86-x64/))

I beatstream perfect every kind of audio track exept EAC3 and DTS HD tracks.:(

I've also tried to install both Ati Catalyst 9.12 + Realtek 2.39 but the situation do not change.

I only want to know if it's normal or If I'm the only one in the world with a Hd 5xxx thet do not bitstream DTS HD :confused:

So ... I've another problem:
I've noticed that if I don't go with DXVA my audio bitstream has some many drop outs.
I've made some test with various decoder (ffdshow, MPC HC internal, microsoft) but the problem persists.
I'm sure that this drops are not related to an insufficient core power because I've a quad. core q9550 with 4gb ram.
Infact I've scanned the CPU usage graph and It's irrilevant also without DXVA.

Thank you for some feed back,
acta.

[David602]

Thank you to Samurai and the others!! I changed my settings and I am now able to bitstream Dolby TrueHD via the Xonar. Kung Fu Panda played beautifully and hardware acceleration of the video was also working great. However, DTS HD is not working yet.

Every .m2ts stream from my BD rips played Dolby TrueHD just fine.


When I play any DTS HD MA source, there is no audio whatsoever. I also tried playing a few dolby digital blurays (such as Pearl Harbor) and it would crash MPC every time.

Examples:

Braveheart - Dolby TrueHD .m2ts file direct from disc (44 GB in size) - WORKS FINE

FDDSHOW SYS TRAY DISPLAYS:
Input: 48000 Hz, 6 channels, 5445 kpbs Dolby True HD (bitstream)
Output: HDMI bitstream (1402)


I ROBOT - DTS HD MA .m2ts file after going through TSMUXER (21 GB in size) - DOES NOT HAVE ANY AUDIO

FDDSHOW SYS TRAY DISPLAYS:
Input: 192000 Hz, 8 channels, 377 kpbs DTS HD (bitstream)
Output: HDMI bitstream (1403)

ERAGON - DTS HD MA - .m2ts file direct from disc (20 GB in size) - NO Audio. Every minute, receiver lights up DTS HD MA for 1 sec but no audio.

FDDSHOW SYS TRAY DISPLAYS:
Input: 192000 Hz, 8 channels, 1506 kpbs DTS HD (bitstream)
Output: HDMI bitstream (1403)


My Setup:

5 TB RAID ARRAY
100 BLURAY & HDDVD RIPS (bitstream fine through TMT3)
Pioneer Elite VSX-01TXH
Xonar HDAV 1.3 deluxe (daughter board not installed)
AMD X2 4800+
Geforce 9600 GSO
4 GB of RAM
Windows Vista x86 (32 bit)

My Settings:

MPC
Under Output
Directshow video: EVR Custom pres.**
Audio Renderer: ArcSoft Audio Renderer

Internal Filters
Source Filters
Only MPEG PS/TS/PVA selected
Transform filters
Only H264/AVC (DXVA), VC1 (DXVA), selected
Audio Switcher, disabled.

External Filters
FFDSHOW Audio decoder - set as preferred
Arcsoft Audio Renderer - set as preferred


FFDSHOW
Codecs
All disabled except:
AC3 - liba52
E-AC3 - libavcodec
MLP - libavcodec
DTS - libdts
stream switcher - enabled

Output
Passthrough
AC3, DD +, DTS, D True HD, DTS HD (all checked)
Compatability options
Xonar formats only
Connect as PCM first
Output format for uncompressed or decoded streams
Only 16 bit integer selected
Connect to: any filter


One other thing I noticed is that when a clip is playing, I look at FFDSHOW and it shows ffdshow audio, MPC MPEG splitter and MPC video renderer lit up. Arcsoft audio renderer is greyed out.

Any help is appreciated.

[Andy o]

We think that it's our Pioneer receivers. I also have a VSX-01 and having the same troubles. Another guy with a SC-05 and I think someone else with another Pioneer also reported something similar. WinDVD 10 works for me fully for bitstreaming though.

[rica]

Are few days that I own the new ATI Radeon 5750 vapor x card.
acta.

We need to know your HW; AVR to help you.
You won't get bitstreaming from eac3 for now but you should get it from DTS-HD...

[Sebastiii]

DTS - libdts
stream switcher - enabled
.

Hi Merry christmas to all :)

Try to set libavcodec and not libdts :)
Seb.

[Sebastiii]

Hi there,

So ... I've another problem:
I've noticed that if I don't go with DXVA my audio bitstream has some many drop outs.
I've made some test with various decoder (ffdshow, MPC HC internal, microsoft) but the problem persists.
I'm sure that this drops are not related to an insufficient core power because I've a quad. core q9550 with 4gb ram.
Infact I've scanned the CPU usage graph and It's irrilevant also without DXVA.

Thank you for some feed back,
acta.

Hi acta same issue for me with dxva and ATI, i have Intel i7 CPU 920 and 4Go so it's not related to cpu.
With Xonar it's ok by my test.

For DTS-HD maybe try the answer that i made with codec of DTS in ffdshow :)

Seb.
Thx.

[actarusfleed]

We need to know your HW; AVR to help you.
You won't get bitstreaming from eac3 for now but you should get it from DTS-HD...

Sorry ...
My AVR is a Pioneer VXS-LX51 (european model).

acta.

[roeic]

Hi,

I have tried to setup ffdshow to bitstream dts-hd , truehd, lpcm but I failed. I would appreacite your help .

I'm using Vista 32bit + Xonar HDAV , HDMI Cables, AMP Onkyo TXSR606 , ffdshow 3164 , TMT3 , Vista Media Center. Files: M2TS being remux from TS movies by TS Muxer app.

TMT3 shows all formats, both audio and video, and the lights of dts-hd, truehd, lpcm are turn on in the receiver when HDMI Passing through.

My goal is to get the same result in Vista Media Center, since I'm already using ffdshow in VMC to watch everything else except Blue-ray movies (or anything which don't have HD sound format).

1) I have installed Ffdshow 3164:
Audio:
-----

Output Section:
---------------
DTS, DTS HD, Dolby... etc are all checked.
16 bit integer, 24 bit integer, 32 bit integer, 32 bit floating point , Allow direct-to-file output , are checked.
Compatibility options - try all formats (connect as PCM first is unchecked)


Codec Section:
--------------
MP3 -> livacodec
MP1,MP2 -> livacodec
AC3 -> liba52
E-AC3 -> livacodec
True HD -> livacodec
MLP -> livacodec
DTS -> libdts
AAC -> disabled


2) I have register TMT3 Audio Renderer:

regsvr32 ASAudioRenderer.dll


3) I have raised the merit of ASAudioRenderer with Gspot to the highest merit.


4) Reload ffdshow audio decoder configuration:
Output Section:
---------------
Connect to: any filter, Directsound, Waveout . These are the only options available !!!!


Tried All options , change the order of reinstalling ASAudioRenderer and Ffdshow, tried to test both on WMP and VMC.

No result !!! can only pass through DTS, Dolby Digital but no DTS-HD, TrueHD or LPCM ???


Can someone please tell me what am I doing wrong.

Truely appreaciate it,

Roei.

[dehati_paul]

Hi,

I have tried to setup ffdshow to bitstream dts-hd , truehd, lpcm but I failed. I would appreacite your help .

I'm using Vista 32bit + Xonar HDAV , HDMI Cables, AMP Onkyo TXSR606 , ffdshow 3164 , TMT3 , Vista Media Center. Files: M2TS being remux from TS movies by TS Muxer app.

TMT3 shows all formats, both audio and video, and the lights of dts-hd, truehd, lpcm are turn on in the receiver when HDMI Passing through.

My goal is to get the same result in Vista Media Center, since I'm already using ffdshow in VMC to watch everything else except Blue-ray movies (or anything which don't have HD sound format).

1) I have installed Ffdshow 3164:
Audio:
-----

Output Section:
---------------
DTS, DTS HD, Dolby... etc are all checked.
16 bit integer, 24 bit integer, 32 bit integer, 32 bit floating point , Allow direct-to-file output , are checked.
Compatibility options - try all formats (connect as PCM first is unchecked)


Codec Section:
--------------
MP3 -> livacodec
MP1,MP2 -> livacodec
AC3 -> liba52
E-AC3 -> livacodec
True HD -> livacodec
MLP -> livacodec
DTS -> libdts
AAC -> disabled


2) I have register TMT3 Audio Renderer:

regsvr32 ASAudioRenderer.dll


3) I have raised the merit of ASAudioRenderer with Gspot to the highest merit.


4) Reload ffdshow audio decoder configuration:
Output Section:
---------------
Connect to: any filter, Directsound, Waveout . These are the only options available !!!!


Tried All options , change the order of reinstalling ASAudioRenderer and Ffdshow, tried to test both on WMP and VMC.

No result !!! can only pass through DTS, Dolby Digital but no DTS-HD, TrueHD or LPCM ???


Can someone please tell me what am I doing wrong.

Truely appreaciate it,

Roei.
@roeic
I had similar experience with Vista MC and I concluded that Vista MC ignores the merit of any audio renderer setting and use the default directsound device. So to get HD audio bitstreaming from WMP or VMC you will have to edit your registry and replace the "Default DirectSound" CLSID with the CLSID of ASAudioRenderer. The best way is to do an entire registry search for "default directsound" and replace the default CLSID (path will look like, but I am not sure "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveMovie\devenum\{E0F158E1-CB04-11D0-BD4E-00A0C911CE86}\Default DirectSound Device"). Unfortunately, I don't recall the exact paths as I just upgraded to Win7/ATI 5xxx as Vista/Arcsoft was giving me lots of problem in the WMP/MC setting. I am sure you will figure it out if you play around for a while (also please create system restore point and record your previous registry path and values, just in case you have to revert back).

[roeic]

@dehati_paul

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I saw that you also mentioned this problem in another post, but since neither @Albine nor @SimulerHD answered , I have decided to make a new post.

I have tried the solution you suggested. Changed to the new CLSID. Restarted. Now Gspot indicates that the Defualt Directsound device is AsAudioRenderer.dll and not Quartz.dll as before the change.

Try to load 2 different files of m2ts type that has an LPCM 16bit 5.1 48000hz audio format in WMP but with no success !!!
WMP loads both ffdshow video and audio to tray but I get only setreo sound , just like in previous ffdshow before HD bitsreaming appreaded.

I have tried to play with some options in ffdshow audio config --> output section. But No success !!.

I checked the files with TMT3 and when I load directory (not directly the file -> but a folder) I get multi-channel in my AMP and everything's ok . So TMT3 still works, while ffdshow does not !!


I don't know how to check in the graph whether it actually does load AsAudioRenderer, nither i have the program itslef.


I can only say this. Going through the instructions provided by @Albine himself, I could NOT succeed achieving bitsrteam even in MPC-HC... But since I don't want to use MPC-HC I deciced to put all efforts in WMP, VMC.

Will changing to Windwos 7 be helpfull ??? I will still be using Xonar card and will not buy ATI 5xxx series.


Did you actually succeed to bitstream from WMP ???


Do you have any other idea about what to do ??


Has anyone else encountered this problem ???

Thank you,

Roei.

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

Hi guys...

I just put an ATi 5850 card in my htpc....

Unfortunately bitstreaming doestn't work yet...

Installed:
ATI driver 9.12
MPC-HC 1.3.1448
ffdshow tryout 3164
PowerDVD 9 + last update
Windows Vista

=> BluRay @ PowerDVD 9 = no HD light at the avr :(
=> Testfile TrueHD @ MPC-HC = Multi In an no HD light :(

which settings i need in ffdshow audio?

[SamuriHL]

What receiver do you have? And did you set PDVD9 to non-decoded HD audio *while a blu-ray is playing*?

[dehati_paul]

@roeic

I completely understand your frustration. In Vista MC you will only get HD bitstreaming (not LPCM) with my method. For LPCM you may try Reclock. In your setup with ASaudiorenderer did you try m2ts with TrueHD or DTS-HD?

In 7MC the situation is more f***ed up but I am living with it (because with ati 5xxx you can bitstream using default directsound, the only advantage). In Win 7 - m2ts, avi, mpeg are driven through Media Foundation and it is difficult to make these files work outside MF even if you disable them (at least my experience). Funnily, they work after I change the extension!! I didn't even try the Xonar on win 7 as it was already difficult to make it work in Vista.

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

I have the denon avr 2309 ... yes i set powerdvd 9 to non-decode hd audio...

[SamuriHL]

Yea, you need a EDID override for the denon. That's why it's not working. Search AVSForum for 'Tulli EDID override' and you'll find what you need.

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

SamuriHL you are awesome ;)

Thank u very much für that information. I had to install a "special" monitor driver for my denon-receiver. Now it works !

The first time that I saw the blue HD sign ;)

PDVD9 & ffdshow works perfect!


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Best greetz from germany

GaBBa

[SamuriHL]

Awesome. I'm glad you got it working. That's always fun to see the lights light up for the first time and to hear the quality of bitstreaming.

[roeic]

@dehati_paul

Thanks again for the reply and help.

A few days ago, I finished watching Star Trek 2009 which had Dolby TrueHD. In my stupidity I erased it when finished and therefore left with 3 different movies all LPCM . I'm downloading a few movies right now but it will take some time to finish. If you know of any links for a demo files with TrueHD or DTS-HD please write them and i will definitely try them with the changes I made.

Regarding LPCM, when playing in WMP, although the sound coming from the receiver have noises the receiver doesn't change lights from regular PCM to Multi-CH , the way it does with TMT3.
AS fas as I understood, Reclock might help with some syncing problem but I doubt if it will turn the lights in the AMP .

Have you actually tried it ??? if yes can you state the configuation you setup in both Reclock and ffdshow ?

Regarding Win 7, does the Media Foundation (MF) blocks ffdshow from loading ?? is this the problem ?

Let me guess you change the extension of the file from M2TS to TS and it solved the problem ?!?!

@albine state that LPCM 16bit is already supported, while 24bit LPCM needs to be done. Does LPCM works well for you with ATI 5xxx and win7 ??

I appreaciate the help.

Thank a lot.

Roeic.

[David602]

We think that it's our Pioneer receivers. I also have a VSX-01 and having the same troubles. Another guy with a SC-05 and I think someone else with another Pioneer also reported something similar. WinDVD 10 works for me fully for bitstreaming though.


Are there any work-arounds or other ideas to fix this issue when bitstreaming to a Pioneer receiver from an ASUS Xonar HDAV?

Using TMT3, the Xonar bitstreams DTS HD to my pioneer receiver just fine.

[David602]

Hi Merry christmas to all :)

Try to set libavcodec and not libdts :)
Seb.

I appreciate the idea but it didn't work.

Using FFDSHOW beta 54 and MPC-HC, and my Xonar to Pioneer receiver, I can bitstream:

Dolby Digital
Dolby TrueHD
DTS

But not DTS HD MA. There is no sound whatsoever.