smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[Guest]

Where did you get the MKV files and what are they?

[blenky]

Where did you get the MKV files and what are they?

They are Blu Ray rips (not mine) of Band of Brothers

[Guest]

Please read and follow our forum rules. We cannot help you with material that you do not legitimately own. And don't try to repost a cleaned up version of your issue.

[aHorseofCourse]

The OS X version of tsMuxeR is broken under Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6):-( Hope to see a new version soon.

[G_M_C]

The OS X version of tsMuxeR is broken under Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6):-( Hope to see a new version soon.

Yep, havent seen Roman in some time. I'm curious to current and future developments too.

[Warbucks81]

Playing discs created using AVCHD output in my panasonic bd55 won't work with 24p. Any ideas how I can get the disc to play with 24p?

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

Hi!

Try resaving them by selecting "BluRay" instead of "AVCHD"...

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

Hi!

Try resaving them by selecting "BluRay" instead of "AVCHD"...

Tried that. My player won't play the disc if I use Bluray output instead of avchd. Any other ideas?

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

See the following:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1244660&postcount=14

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

See the following:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1244660&postcount=14

That doesn't help me. I WANT 24p playback with avchd.

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

Based on the post I directed you to, it would appear that what you want and what you can get are two different things...

[MadMonkey57]

@Warbucks81

BD 35/55 simply WON'T do 24 playback on AVCHD (at least on red laser DVD). It is no authoring issue or muxing issue. It's just Panasonic's "decision".

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

BD 35/55 simply WON'T do 24 playback on AVCHD (at least on red laser DVD). It is no authoring issue or muxing issue. It's just Panasonic's "decision".

Thanks for the answer! I was beginning to think this was the case.

[rapscallion]

Tsmuxer ver 1.10.6

For the 1st time I'm trying to add a forced sub track to my creation of an avchd.
The original ~20gb 1920*1080, m2ts displays the subs fine, via MPC, the first one about 10m into the movie.

I demuxed this to a m2ts, minus the audio, so that I could encode to 1280*720, sized bd9, *.264, via Megui.

When I create the avchd via tsmuxer, the sub pgs is present, according to Media info, but NO subs are displayed when I play it.
MPC does have a select tab for it as well. I've tried several different settings for font size and bottom offset, color white, with no luck.

Here's the meta file for one of the muxes :
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\defiance.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\defiance.dts"
S_TEXT/UTF8, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\Defiance.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=36,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=40,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976

So, any help and recommended settings in the sub tab would be appreciated. (btw, what's "additional boder pixels" purpose ?)

[MadMonkey57]

tsmuxer can indeed add a sub stream but can't force its playback. You need to alter tsmuxer's output with BDedit:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1229423#post1229423
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1258566#post1258566

[rapscallion]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow any of that how it relates to getting my subtitles to play.

[MadMonkey57]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5sysm4

Replace the 2 files produced by tsmuxer in "BDMV"" and "BDMV/BACKUP" with the ones from the link above (custom index.bdmv MovieObject.bdmv). It should force 1st sub and 1st audio.

Open the AVCHD structure with BDEdit will help you understand the guides.

[deank]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow any of that how it relates to getting my subtitles to play.

You may want to check the .srt file and its first subtitle line. Open it in notepad and take a look at the "START --> END" times of the first subtitle line. If 'start time' is less than 00:00:01.600 change it to this value.

[rapscallion]

@madmonkey...thanks, that did the trick ! Although I hadn't tried it yet, I found this post on bdedit/subs late last night :Click (http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-157/bd_rb_beta_released_-now_at_version_0_29_03_september_8th_2009-733781/5#4490771) (Scroll down about 3/4 of the pg)

@deank..this was subs for the non-eng dialog so the first line of the srt started well after zero:
1
00:10:20,578 --> 00:10:22,288
You want me not to help?


Thanks to both of you for the response, as this was my first attempt at subs and it was getting a bit frustrating. MM, I'l try to dig in deeper to bdedit and the structure.

Also, it seems that with forced subs, Tsmuxer settings for font, offset, etc has no affect ?

[iSeries]

Hi,

Hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to remux 'Cloverfield' with just the TrueHD and AC3 core soundtrack. If I double click the original .m2ts file and play in MPC HC, in 'Properties' it says the audio is AC3 6 channel. However, after remuxing with tsmuxer, there is no audio! If I load the remuxed .m2ts into tsmuxer it confirms that the audio is still TrueHD with AC3 core. Anyone got any ideas? Please note I'm not looking to play back TrueHD on my PC as my receiver can't handle HD audio, but I'd like to keep it for future upgrades.

[RonaldoSan]

Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly does tsmuxer rebuild the streams when remuxing/demuxing? Is it done through decoding (directshow etc.) or does it just kinda cut out the stream?

[deank]

It doesn't use any filters/codecs... tsMuxeR *demuxes" the streams and then muxes the requested ones back. It employs container change method, not reencoding or anything.

Imagine you have a box of peanuts and hazelnuts - it separates them (if you wish in separate bags) or packs them under a different franchise :)

Dean

[RonaldoSan]

Thank you for the explanation. This is how I understood that muxing worked, but TsMuxer says it's "decoding" the streams, and you get the option of "converting" truehd to ac3. I'm not sure if the usage of those terms are incorrect, but it made me unsure of how it was working.

[zeropc]

any news regarding the snow leopard support of tsmuxer?

[mrr19121970]

Hopefully this time my message doesn't get deleted.

Thank you for the explanation. This is how I understood that muxing worked, but TsMuxer says it's "decoding" the streams, and you get the option of "converting" truehd to ac3. I'm not sure if the usage of those terms are incorrect, but it made me unsure of how it was working.

To complement Deank's explanation:

Imagine you have a box of peanuts and hazelnuts - it separates them (if you wish in separate bags) or packs them under a different franchise :)

Imagine that the TrueHD and DTS-HD are the chocolate covered variety of peanuts. tsMuxeR simply removes the chocolate off the peanuts, before passing on the CORE. In deank's example, a peanut; but really AC3 or DTS-core.

I beleive tsMuxeR doesn't actually pass on the space savings by giving you only the core audio.

[samtroy]

@deank

Short question:

My new BD-Player (LG BD390) supports playback of "--blu-ray"-muxed BD9s without a problem. Now, would you still keep using "--avchd" for muxing BD9s (like I do right now) or would you use "--blu-ray" from now on? Would there be any advantages for me? What's your opinion on that?

[deank]

I don't know why your question is addressed to me :)

multiAVCHD never used the '--avchd' option of tsMuxeR and you should use whichever option works for your player. If both work and you're not planning on sharing your DVD discs with other people, then it doesn't matter. If you're planning on sharing with relatives/friends, then it is better to use AVCHD.

:) Dean

[samtroy]

Thanks for your fast answer.

I was just thinking that maybe AVCHD has some navigation limitations or limitations when using more than one audiotracks or stuff like that...

[deank]

If your player plays DVDs with blu-ray content then it means it is not restricted by AVCHD standard (the same way PS3 isnt).

The restriction (using DVD media) may manifest itself when using higher bitrates, but you'll notice the stuttering.

[webvan]

Sorry if this is a silly question but I did quite a bit of searching and I can't seem to find an answer.

Here's what I'm trying to do, remux an .mkv (created with makemkv from a DVD and a transcoded video )to .ts (for playback on my PS3 hopefully) and keep all the audio and subtitles. Unfortunately when I open the .mkv with tsmuxer it pops up an "unsupported formats" message and the resulting .ts has no subtitles.

Can it not be done or am I doing something wrong ? Thanks !

[Lincoln Burrows]

Today I decrypted the Blu-ray from the movie Enemy of the State and noticed that two m2ts files were created, the first with 56 mins from the movie, the second with the last 1 hour. Both have almost 20 GB each. When using Total Media Theatre from Arcsoft, it can play both files as if they were one, no lags when looking the 2nd file.

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Using MPC-HC or BSPlayer to play these files will not be a good idea, since they can only open one file at time.

So I need to ask you guys if tsMuxer can help me here to join both parts, but also remove some unwanted audio/subtitle tracks from both of them. How should I proceed to do that, with no reencode, and preserving the BD characteristics, like the exact time were chapters are inserted, and not destroying the BD project when using TMT?

By destroying, I mean, not changing the m2ts files in a way that the audio/subtitle tracks are not recognized anymore by any program or the other folders (PLAYLIST for example) are not invalid and start to break the whole thing after using TsMuxer. "Destroying" a DVD project would be the equivalent of altering a VOB file in a way that IFOs/BUPs can't work like before, so another tool like PGCEdit or IFOEdit needs to be used to correct the whole authoring process/structure.

That's the reason I never attempted to remove the unwanted tracks since I don't know anything about Blu-rays. If we were talking about DVDs, I would say this can be done with no problems using a tool like DVDFab which is capable of removing these tracks and generate the exact DVD project again, with no sign of them.

The only thing it will change is that if you select the missing audio/subtitle track in the animated menu, another will be selected instead. And DVDFab will keep all the DVD project characteristics, nothing will be changed.

But TSMuxer seems to be doing that only on specific m2ts files.

DVDFab is not doing that with DVDs. When you select the VIDEO_TS folder, the program picks the whole thing - IFOs/BUPs/VOBs./etc. and changes all of them, making the DVD project 100% working, without the unwanted tracks.

A Blu-ray project is not only a m2ts file - involves several folders/files called BDMV, CERTIFICATE and ANY. The m2ts file from the movie is only one of those located on the BDMV/STREAM folder.

I just need to know how we may join those two parts and remove some unwanted tracks/subtitles. I don't know if I should select both .m2ts files and push the JOIN button (saving in M2TS output) or if I need to do more than that.

[mrr19121970]

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Yes, plenty. This is called seamless branching and is typical in Disney movies, or movies where there might be 2 or 3 versions on the disk (due to extended cuts, or language specific on screen texts). You can just open the correct MPLS with tsMuxeR and deselect what you don't need and recreate your Blu-Ray just like that.

I've had mostly pretty bad experiences with tsMuxeR on hardware based players, and don't do this anymore. The favoured route is to demux with eac3to and remux with tsMuxeR. The reasoning behind this is the end of file markers, overlaps and gaps in the file produced by tsMuxeR on it's own tend to cause havoc with hardware players (bumps, out of sync or even crashing the machine). Software players on the other hand mostly cope with this.

Please see my sig for more details of how to do what I described.

[Sharc]

Today I decrypted the Blu-ray from the movie Enemy of the State and noticed that two m2ts files were created, the first with 56 mins from the movie, the second with the last 1 hour. Both have almost 20 GB each. When using Total Media Theatre from Arcsoft, it can play both files as if they were one, no lags when looking the 2nd file.

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Using MPC-HC or BSPlayer to play these files will not be a good idea, since they can only open one file at time.

So I need to ask you guys if tsMuxer can help me here to join both parts, but also remove some unwanted audio/subtitle tracks from both of them. How should I proceed to do that, with no reencode, and preserving the BD characteristics, like the exact time were chapters are inserted, and not destroying the BD project when using TMT?

First, yes there are many cases where the movie is split into 2 or many more *.m2ts. For example, when a BD contains the 'extended version' and the 'theatre version', the additional segments of the 'extended version' are kept in separate .m2ts, and the playlists will define how these segments are linked during playback for the 'extended version' and the 'theatre version' respectively.

Secondly, you can merge the indidvidual .m2ts of a movie into one big .m2ts (or .ts, Blu-Ray or AVCHD structure), strip unwanted audio and sups tracks with the free Clown_BD (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?p=166910). (Download the full package). Actually Clown_BD uses eac3to and tsmuxer; it just makes it easy for the user and solves some sync issues of tsmuxer. The resulting single merged file (otherwise untouched, i.e. not re-encoded) can be played with mpc, vlc or similar.

Added: I Just noted that mrr19121970 pointed to Clown_BD as well.....

[cavediver]

Or he could use ToNMT to make a single ts or m2ts file.

[Capsbackup]

Or he could use ToNMT to make a single ts or m2ts file.

That is exactly what Clown_BD will do when it is complete.

[THX-UltraII]

Question about TSMuxer:

I have a BR rip on my HDD (BDMW and CERTIFICATE folder). Now I want to add a subtitle (.srt file) to this. I know that when I have a .m2ts file that I can add a .srt file but how do I load a BR folder in TSmuxer? Or is it not possible what I want?

[Dare's User Name]

Any plans to support Windows Media Center's .wtv files?

[idbirch2]

dvr-ms was never supported so highly unlikely. VideReDo does support .wtv though and will allow you to remux to .ts or .mpg which TSmuxer will accept.

[crl2007]

Any chance that in the future tsMuxer to remux a BD splitted across multiple m2ts as multiple m2ts ? For example: if I have a BD with m2ts files from 500 to 524, will tsMuxer be able to recreate those 500 to 524 m2ts files ? It would be extremely great for seamless branched disks.

[idbirch2]

It can do this already as it has playlist support, you just need to point it at the right .mpls file. You may have problems with audio sync though as it does not make any corrections for audio overlap at the split points. It's unlikely this functionality will ever make it into TSMuxer so use eac3to on seamless branching titles - it will demux the streams for you, fixing overlap at the same time. The demuxed streams can then be fed into TSMuxer.

[crl2007]

I use mpls support, but in the end results only 1 m2ts.

[Dare's User Name]

dvr-ms was never supported so highly unlikely. VideReDo does support .wtv though and will allow you to remux to .ts or .mpg which TSmuxer will accept.

VideoReDo is prone to crashing and costs money. I was hoping for something simple and free.

[idbirch2]

Then I wish you well on your search, no problems here with VRD crashing and it was definitely worth the money.

[Ryu77]

Then I wish you well on your search, no problems here with VRD crashing and it was definitely worth the money.

I'll second that! I pretty much only use it for removing commercials from DTV recordings, as it is the only application that I found that can cut the video file with no re-encoding and do it effortlessly with an easy to use interface (it will only re-create frames when needed, no need to re-encode the whole video). For this purpose VideoReDo works very well.

[ExSport]

http://www.cypheros.de/dvb_e.html
For fixing stream and ads/audio removal you can try free TS-Doctor...

[crl2007]

On some BD disks I receive this error.

http://i33.tinypic.com/t7de06.jpg

What does it mean ? How can I bypass it ? Can I demux with eac3to and then load it into tsMuxer ?

[deank]

Usually you will get this error if playlist contents refer to IGS (menu graphics) or TextST (text subtitle streams).

[crl2007]

Is there a slight chance that this streams to be supported in multiavchd or tsmuxer ?

[deank]

You can't remux neither the textst or igs streams, but I wrote a small tool that can extract textST subtitles to srt, so you can later use them.

Here is more info. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501)

[crl2007]

I'm more interested in IGS for PiP features on certain Blu-Ray disks. That's why I wanted to keep those streams intact too. Like Public Enemies, which has U-Control.