smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[umaximus]

Not a direct answer to your question, but just so you know, mkv doesn't support TrueHD yet either (the rest of the HD audio stream types work fine though).

I know that, thats why I'm asking whats the best way to mux true hd back? tsmuxer can do it, but it messes it up, tsremuxer can't do it, since you need to have original m2ts with truehd in it, mkvmerge doesn't support it yet.

The only way that is working for me now is that i convert trueHD to pcm and mux it with tsmuxer, but pcm is a bit space consuming. FLAC is not an option for me, since im using PCH for playback which dont support multichannel flac.

[peterjcat]

I have a question regarding TrueHD tracks.
I have all my blu-ray collection remuxed into mkv & dts with eac3to.
I still have all the original audio streams (pcm, dtshdma, truehd) backed up and now when i got my new receiver that can handle dtshd & truehd, i would like to remux my mkvs into ts and add truehd to them. The problem is that tsmuxer is causing problems and damage truehd streams. TsRemuxer can only handle original m2ts with truehd already in them, so i cant add it.

After reading alot about 'bug' tsmuxer have, is it possible to first use tsmuxer and remux my mkvs + adding truehd streams into it & then running them again via tsRemuxer? Will this iron out the potential stuttering in truehd caused by tsmuxer? Is there any other way to do it?
When will mkvmerge support truhd?

Does tsMuxeR accept MKV as an input? If so, then what you suggest should work EXCEPT that once tsMuxeR has made its new TS/M2TS you have to run it through ts4Np, which seems to be an update on TsRemux, and will fix tsMuxeR's TrueHD troubles (at least to the extent that they will play fine on a Popcorn Hour).

[umaximus]

Does tsMuxeR accept MKV as an input? If so, then what you suggest should work EXCEPT that once tsMuxeR has made its new TS/M2TS you have to run it through ts4Np, which seems to be an update on TsRemux, and will fix tsMuxeR's TrueHD troubles (at least to the extent that they will play fine on a Popcorn Hour).

Already tried this method, but not with ts4np. I had run it directly through TsRemuxer, after Tsmuxer, but TsRemuxer didnt fixed TsMuxer mess on TrueHD track. Will try with ts4np.

Anyway, any update/fix planned for TsMuxer regarding this bug on TrueHD tracks?

[PassThePeas]

Anyway, any update/fix planned for TsMuxer regarding this bug on TrueHD tracks?

To my knowledge, no workaround for that TrueHD issue yet.

Tried it all (tsMuxer/tsRemux/ts4np) ... nothing good came out.
There's a specific post on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986).

[ochiba]

Hi,

does someone had succes with the BDRE 50Gb(TDK) and playing at a standalone player?
After a long road my 25 Gb BDRE works using TSmuxer but with the 50Gb no succes up to know.
I burned the plain BDrip to a BDRE 50Gb with Nero and Ashampoo. When all is ready and I'm lucky it only plays the previews and than stops. When I use only image burn it fails also. I use a LGH20 burner and a Panasonic BD35 standalone

I thought I bought some 50Gb BDRE's to do it easy without resizing but up to now it only give me pain in my head:mad:

I'm open for al sugestions and this week i'm going to try to work with BD rebuilder and look what that does.

Greetz Ochi

[setarip_old]

When using TSMuxer to combine (as BluRay) a VC-1 videostream with an .AC3 audiostream, should one use the "Add" radiobutton or the "Append" radiobutton?

[G_M_C]

When using TSMuxer to combine (as BluRay) a VC-1 videostream with an .AC3 audiostream, should one use the "Add" radiobutton or the "Append" radiobutton?

Add, and then select strems in stream field.

Append means "Add to the end of the previous file" (like avisynth aligned "++"). In fact you'll see the ++ when you append in tsMuxeR.

[setarip_old]

@G_M_C

Thanks for confirming ;>}

[peterjcat]

To my knowledge, no workaround for that TrueHD issue yet.

Tried it all (tsMuxer/tsRemux/ts4np) ... nothing good came out.
There's a specific post on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986).

What are you playing the files on? I haven't tried burning to a BD to play on a standalone, but tsMuxeR+ts4Np and eac3to+tsMuxeR+ts4Np are both working reliably for me on the PCH A-110 (at last).

Also on the networkedmediatank.com forum is a user application called ToNMT which has just been updated to handle HD audio and works pretty reliably on Blu-ray TrueHD. It no longer uses tsMuxeR for Blu-ray remuxing but has its own muxer. It doesn't make Blu-ray structures, but if all you want is a TS/M2TS it's worth checking out.

[odin24]

Hi,

does someone had succes with the BDRE 50Gb(TDK) and playing at a standalone player?
After a long road my 25 Gb BDRE works using TSmuxer but with the 50Gb no succes up to know.
I burned the plain BDrip to a BDRE 50Gb with Nero and Ashampoo. When all is ready and I'm lucky it only plays the previews and than stops. When I use only image burn it fails also. I use a LGH20 burner and a Panasonic BD35 standalone

I thought I bought some 50Gb BDRE's to do it easy without resizing but up to now it only give me pain in my head:mad:

I'm open for al sugestions and this week i'm going to try to work with BD rebuilder and look what that does.

Greetz Ochi

I have a TDK BD-RE 50GB, it plays fine on a Sony BDP350. I used a straight BD rip and a remux, movie only with tsMuxeR. I too have a LG burner, however I always use the software that came with the burner to burn, which is Cyberlink.

[nwg]

I also use a TDK 25GB and a 50GB with my S350 player. TDK and Verbatim are the only brands I recommend. I cannot get the supplied LG 25GB disc to work in any BD player.

I use Imgburn to create the BD's. I prefer to just rip and burn the iso's but have done some movie only burns with TsMuxer.

[newcomers]

Is anybody else having problems when skipping chapters after muxing to create a blu ray?

I use BDInfo to find the correct file, and then I use tsmuxer to use only the video file, and 1 audio file (hd if there is one). I have selected custom chapters so that is uses the original chapters, but on most films, when skipping chapters, the video gets very choppy and then the audio is out of sync. The only way to get it to sync again is to go back a couple of chapters. It will always cause the same problem on the same chapter in the film, so its not a software player error. I also tried changing it to insert chapter every 5 minutes, but again, on certain chapters its causing the same fault. The chapters causing the problems will always be the same ones.

If I use AnyDVD HD to rip to an image, it plays back fine, but obviously this takes up a lot more space.

I have to note, that if I watch the BD from beginning to end without skipping chapters, it plays back perfectly.

Hope someone can help

Keep up the good work!!


Thanks in advance

[odin24]

The issue is when tsMuxeR creates a BD structure the data in the CLPI file is bogus, it reports the wrong m2ts file size. To fix this you need to use idbirch's AVCHDMe (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143631). The app has two purposes, to patch the CLPI file and to make PS3/FAT32 compatible... you can disable the PS3 function though, this will fix the seeking issue.

[laserfan]

Is anybody else having problems when skipping chapters after muxing to create a blu ray?Several issues I know of:

1. tsMuxeR makes some error(s) in the clpi file which can alter where the player "lands" and how it behaves thereafter. Search on "Fixclpi" here for a tool by jdobbs that fixes some problems in the two clpi files in your muxed output

2. After re-encoding, it is possible, even likely, that the original chapter locations don't line-up perfectly in the new encoding. At least with x264 you can tell it in advance where to be sure to put I-frames so your desired chapter marks land perfectly

3. I've found that PowerDVD doesn't always land perfectly on chapter marks, despite that I have placed I-frames and marked them correctly. Arcsoft's TMT seems always to land correctly, as does my settop player.

4. For some reason when converting an HD DVD to Blu-ray, the timing is so messed-up that the original chapter marks no long apply and can be many seconds off. I don't even try to use the original marks from HD DVDs I want to convert.

Fixing the clpi file issue is trivial with jdobbs' tool; assuring I-frames in the right places, marking your chapters accordingly, and dealing with HD DVD is not. Search here on "qpfile.txt" or qpfile for more discussion about marking I-frames for x264 encodes. I don't know of anywhere the HD DVD issue is discussed.

Good luck!

[newcomers]

so when using the AVCHDMe app, do I just tick the first option which is "fix clpi files", and leave the second option unticked?

So if I was doing a new rip, I would mux, use this app to apply the fix, and them create an iso as normal?

I have created about 20 iso's from BD rips, and im guessing at least 15 have this problem. Can I just extract the contents from the iso, run this app on the extracted files, and then re-create the iso, or do I have to use the original BD and re do all the muxing etc?

Thanks guys

[laserfan]

Can I just extract the contents from the iso, run this app on the extracted files, and then re-create the iso...That oughta work--give it a try.

I dunno about AVCHDme, but FixclpiGUI is easy to use.

[newcomers]

That oughta work--give it a try.

I dunno about AVCHDme, but FixclpiGUI is easy to use.

well i just tried AVCHDme and it hasnt made any difference, using either or both of the options selected.

Ill give FixclpiGUI a go and let you know how I get on

Thanks

[laserfan]

From what you described, it appears to me that when you go to play the mux, the player is not finding I-frames at the points you specified in "custom chapters" of tsMuxeR. Then the player seeks to the nearest I-frame and things get a little out-of-whack. My theory and I'm sticking to it! ;)

But if Fixclpi doesn't work, you may just have to live with the discs you made, or I suppose you could demux your discs and re-index your video files and find proper I-frames and create a new --custom-chapter list and re-mux and... well, it'd be a lot of work.

The first BD backup I ever made had "reckless" chapter marks, and exhibited the same symptoms as yours (out-of-sync when skipping-forward to next chapter, but would fix itself after a few secs). But I've since figured-out how to fix that. :)

EDIT: BTW you should check that... Instead of "going back a couple of chapters" just leave the playback alone and see if it comes back into sync. Mine did after just a few secs (probably until the next I-frame, which for that disc might have been 10+ seconds away, as I x264-ed with the default 250 keyframe interval).

[newcomers]

Well good news. I ran the FixclpiGUI app and re-created the iso and all appears to be ok!!

Thanks guys

[Digi]

What are you playing the files on? I haven't tried burning to a BD to play on a standalone, but tsMuxeR+ts4Np and eac3to+tsMuxeR+ts4Np are both working reliably for me on the PCH A-110 (at last).

Also on the networkedmediatank.com forum is a user application called ToNMT which has just been updated to handle HD audio and works pretty reliably on Blu-ray TrueHD. It no longer uses tsMuxeR for Blu-ray remuxing but has its own muxer. It doesn't make Blu-ray structures, but if all you want is a TS/M2TS it's worth checking out.

That may well work with the PCH-110 as you are only creating a single .M2TS file and not the full blu ray structure, Tsremux and Ts4np still do not work with TrueHD for a full structured Blu Ray output.

[newcomers]

Well good news. I ran the FixclpiGUI app and re-created the iso and all appears to be ok!!

Thanks guys

Well some bad news now!!

Going through the process of re-muxing, using the FixclpiGUI tool and recreating the iso with all of my BD, and the first 10 all worked fine, but then hancock and independce day both still have the same fault.

When I used FixclpiGUI, it said it had fixed file, but they both still stutter when skipping in certain scenes.

Anything else I can do here so sort this problem out? Ive put this current process on hold as each BD is taking 30 mins, and with no guaranteed success, if rather wait for another solution

Thanks guys

[ericd]

hi
i can say that i try absolutly everything to put subs with tsmuxer,and it always never worked ,in br or avchd configuration or even in m2ts or ts ,i don t understand why
?
i do all that is explain in some tutorials ,meanwhile i wanted to know if i MUST install ffdshow ? is it obligatory ? sorry for my english im french .
i must say that its a nightmare for me to try putiing subs ,i put
.srt but nothing works please can someone help me !!
thx

ericd

[Butterfly666]

hi
i can say that i try absolutly everything to put subs with tsmuxer,and it always never worked ,in br or avchd configuration or even in m2ts or ts ,i don t understand why
?
i do all that is explain in some tutorials ,meanwhile i wanted to know if i MUST install ffdshow ? is it obligatory ? sorry for my english im french .
i must say that its a nightmare for me to try putiing subs ,i put
.srt but nothing works please can someone help me !!
thx

ericd

Which player do you use, is it a ps3?

[WicKeDcHilD]

why is it when i try to piece together a movie like The X Files: Fight The Future, i always get a flashing image.
I click add to get the main file with the one video and the one audio, click append and then piece together the rest of the movie but i always see a flashing image where the files were pieced together...
am i doing this wrong or something?

[ericd]

Which player do you use, is it a ps3?

yes i use a ps3 ,i also use powerdvd to verify that verything works but is the same thing it never never works!!
i just wabt to make a backup with subs playable on my ps3 and also in br players..."sony"
thx for all

[deank]

Eric, just check if your SRT subtitles start with TIMECODE < 2 seconds. Open the SRT file and if the first lines are like:

1
00:00:00,xxx....

just edit with notepad and make first line to have start time at least 1 or 2 seconds...

1
00:00:02,000 -->.....

[ericd]

Eric, just check if your SRT subtitles start with TIMECODE < 2 seconds. Open the SRT file and if the first lines are like:

1
00:00:00,xxx....

just edit with notepad and make first line to have start time at least 1 or 2 seconds...

1
00:00:02,000 -->.....


hi dean first of all thx a lot !!
i already try this solution, it didn t work

as i said i try everything !! thx
i try with the .srt ourside and with the .srt muxed in the mkv,i also try to put the .srt in utf 8 saved in .srt
i verify with powerdvd 8 but still nothing...

[odin24]

@ericd, there might be something wrong with the way the srt file was originally created.

Try this,
Use Subtitle Workshop and save the old srt as a new one. Open Subtitle Workshop, set the FPS first, load the srt file, now "save as" SubRip type to a new srt with a different name.

[deank]

SRT won't show in PS3 if video is not 1280x720/1920x1080/1440x1080...

[odin24]

^^ Yeah, I just assumed it was, good point. :p

[ericd]

@ericd, there might be something wrong with the way the srt file was originally created.

Try this,
Use Subtitle Workshop and save the old srt as a new one. Open Subtitle Workshop, set the FPS first, load the srt file, now "save as" SubRip type to a new srt with a different name.



thx odin24 but again its not working!! lol this is a big mystery ...

i put my specs
vista home
quad core 6600
gc geflorce 8800 gts
software used
kmplayer
powerdvd 8
i have a ps3

i try with a lot of differents movies but nothig..:mad:

[ericd]

SRT won't show in PS3 if video is not 1280x720/1920x1080/1440x1080...
humm i didn t know that ,i will try with these resolutions thx deank

[deank]

There is a way around this, but you need to hexedit CPI files.

[ericd]

There is a way around this, but you need to hexedit CPI files.

??? how to do that???i just verify and none of my mkv are in native resolutions !! lol thats certainly why it doesn t work

[ericd]

i just try to make a 1280x720 br/ps3with ts muxer ,so in the resolutionsthat you said upper but nothing appears...:mad:
i have checked with powerdvd 8

use also with mkv2avi (hi dean!!) it doesn t work..

[deank]

Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

[ericd]

Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

Général
Nom complet : L:\alt.binaries.hdtv.x264\sg.mkv
Format : Matroska
Taille du fichier : 6.56 Gio
Durée : 2h 23mn
Débit global moyen : 6531 Kbps
Date d'encodage : UTC 2007-10-29 22:30:59
Application utilisée : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Bibliothèque utilisée : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Vidéo
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L5.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 8 images
Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Durée : 2h 23mn
Débit : 5623 Kbps
Débit nominal : 5888 Kbps
Largeur : 1280 pixels
Hauteur : 720 pixels
Format à l'écran : 16/9
Images par seconde : 23.976 Im/s
Colorimétrie : 4:2:0
Type d'image : Progressif
Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.266
Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 56 svn-680
Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=5888 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Langue : Anglais

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Identifiant du codec : A_AC3
Durée : 2h 23mn
Type de débit : Constant
Débit : 640 Kbps
Canaux : 6 canaux
Position des cannaux : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Echantillonnage : 48.0 KHz

here is my file i rename the title and put in level 4.1

yes for the 2 questions deank thx again

[deank]

Do you add your SRT subtitles in tsMuxer GUI? They won't be added automatically.

And can you post the meta tsmuxer generates?

[ericd]

Do you add your SRT subtitles in tsMuxer GUI? They won't be added automatically.

And can you post the meta tsmuxer generates?



ok i will do it, but im no more home now
i add my srt sub manually ,of course ...:p lol

[Rodger]

Feature Request!

Option to create AVCHD!

The Samsung BDP-2500 declined playback on ALL discs that I tried which played perfectly on Samsung BD-P1400 and Panasonic DMP-BD30!

The reason is amost impossible and it took quiet a while to pinpoint that "problem".
The unneccesary folders, which only are used for real Blu-Ray.
Just deleting the unused foldes out of a "Blu-Ray" makes it playable on the Samsung BD-P1400.

Thanks
Rodger

[ericd]

ok i will do it, but im no more home now
i add my srt sub manually ,of course ...:p lol

Dean here is the meta,i changed the title

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre


thx
ericd

[nwg]

Feature Request!

Option to create AVCHD!

The Samsung BDP-2500 declined playback on ALL discs that I tried which played perfectly on Samsung BD-P1400 and Panasonic DMP-BD30!

The reason is amost impossible and it took quiet a while to pinpoint that "problem".
The unneccesary folders, which only are used for real Blu-Ray.
Just deleting the unused foldes out of a "Blu-Ray" makes it playable on the Samsung BD-P1400.

Thanks
Rodger

I just burn the BDMV folder and it works fine on a Sony S350 and a Samsung 2500. I leave all the folder intact inside the BDMV.

[smnckl]

from ericd's post...
Vidéo
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L5.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 8 images
Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC


Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.

[jamos]

from ericd's post...




I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.

you are correct with 5.1 and more than 4 ref frames the video will not play on a ps3. By just tricking it to lvl 4.1 it still will not work. You need to reencode the video to lvl 4.1 with x264..I like megui and the AVCHD standalone profile to do this.

[jamos]

sure wish they would fix the TRUE-HD bug..would love to have true-hd avchd playback without having to convert audio...anyone heard from Roman76 lately??:eek:

[ericd]

from ericd's post...




I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.


As u can see, with the meta file i have change to level 4.1,and nothing appears!!thx for your help
thx jamo and smckl and deank and all others..


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre

[odin24]

sure wish they would fix the TRUE-HD bug..would love to have true-hd avchd playback without having to convert audio...anyone heard from Roman76 lately??:eek:

You are aware of the tsremux workaround for TrueHD, eh?

[smnckl]

As u can see, with the meta file i have change to level 4.1,and nothing appears!!thx for your help
thx jamo and smckl and deank and all others..


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre

@ericd

Unfortunately, changing the level when remuxing in tsMuxeR will not help since it does not correct the reference frames. From what I have read, you will need to re-encode using x264.

@all, please correct me if I am wrong.

[asarian]

from ericd's post...

I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.


It's a little known fact, but (as of somewhere December of last year?) the PS3 actually does support High @ 5.1 Profile now! Sony doesn't generally advertise such info, but it's true nonetheless.

Furthermore,

For 1080p content: reference frames should be < 5 (although 5 reportedly seems to work at times).
For 720p content: reference frames should be < 10 (haven't confirmed this, btw; I thought it was still at max 4).
All content: b-frames should be < 4.

[sylvain07]

I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."

hello I have the same problem with the film Troy, nobody has an answer?