smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[mrr19121970]

I just tried it with a 4gb split and a 1gb source. I had 4 CLPI files instead of 1 and the 00001-00003 had a 0 byte length

[idbirch2]

Roman has assured me that this is just an internal test version and the .split.1, .slpit.2 etc filenames won't be in the next proper release.

[kolak]

@kolak

Although a logical presumption, you are misinterpreting the numbering being used. Version 1.8.8 is an OLDER version than version 1.8.35.

(In the logical world, 1.8.8 would have been named version 1.8.08)

:)

Andrew

[Chumbo]

And as if by magic...

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.35(b).zip
Is the file corrupt for something? I can't download it via IE or FireFox. Both crap out at the very end when trying to save it. Anyone else having this issue?

[Rodger]

Is the file corrupt for something? I can't download it via IE or FireFox. Both crap out at the very end when trying to save it. Anyone else having this issue?

No Problem here! Everything is fine.

[shon3i]

Is the file corrupt for something? I can't download it via IE or FireFox. Both crap out at the very end when trying to save it. Anyone else having this issue?
Your antiwirus blocks you, disable protection for moment and try again. I haved same issue

ESS log:

22/03/2009 9:38:09 PM
HTTP filter file
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.35(b).zip
probably a variant of Win32/Statik potentially unwanted application
connection terminated - quarantined
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe.

[deank]

I'd suggest you to wait for the next release or use 34b- just read few posts up.

[shon3i]

There is no problems in normal Blu-Ray mux, just when split selected.

[phigment]

If anybody cares, I Just tried 1.8.35 with bistreams from the Canon 5D Mark II and I still get "SPS picture order 2 not supported." errors.

[Chumbo]

Your antiwirus blocks you, disable protection for moment and try again. I haved same issue

ESS log:
Thans shon3i. I should have checked that first. Just updated to a new virus scanner and it's not configured to show automatically blocked suspect files, but sure enough the file is in quarantine.

I'll submit it to the labs so they can analyze it.

[roman76r]

Hi all!

Now I begin to implement "restore cropped video" function.
This is hard feature, so I plan to implement it during 1-2 week.

How it will be work:
I plan to modify H.264 stream. 2 new slices will be inserted to the stream: for bottom and top black region. Current slice(s) with video will be changed by modifying the field "first_mb_in_slice".
Black slice are very compact, so the size of the stream rises slightly.

[deank]

Thanks for this. I was trying to implement the same thing but it is really a though job for me. It would have probably taken much less time if some of the x264 developers or someone with good h264 knowledge had landed a hand... but no.

[RobertR]

Hi!
I'm toying with linux binary on amd64 arch. tsMuxerGUI from tsMuxeR_static_1.8.35(b).tar.gz does not work for me (probably could make it running after installing some ia32 libs but i'd rather not do that). In the history on SmartLabs pages there is mention that since 1.8.35 two modes are supported "Create BluRay disc" and "Create AVCHD disc". Second one beeing recommended for so-called BD5/BD9 media.
Can I choose between BluRay and AVCH from either CLI or meta file? If so, could some kind soul tell me how?

TIA

[coolalibaba]

@Roman,
this is really a fantastic news! I have been waiting this too long...:)

Hi all!

Now I begin to implement "restore cropped video" function.
This is hard feature, so I plan to implement it during 1-2 week.

How it will be work:
I plan to modify H.264 stream. 2 new slices will be inserted to the stream: for bottom and top black region. Current slice(s) with video will be changed by modifying the field "first_mb_in_slice".
Black slice are very compact, so the size of the stream rises slightly.

[ultratoto14]

Hi all!

Now I begin to implement "restore cropped video" function.
This is hard feature, so I plan to implement it during 1-2 week.

How it will be work:
I plan to modify H.264 stream. 2 new slices will be inserted to the stream: for bottom and top black region. Current slice(s) with video will be changed by modifying the field "first_mb_in_slice".
Black slice are very compact, so the size of the stream rises slightly.

Hi Roman, good to see you again !!

[flyingernst]

Hi,

what is the latest version in that DTS-HD High Resolution works without bug? my PCH is able to play/stream HD-Audio in a File made by tsmuxer 1.2.9 (with dts-hd high resolution). With die the newest TSmuxer-versions the PCH tries to play/stream DTS-hD Master instead of DTS-HD HR

[nwg]

I thought DTS-HD audio was always ok in TsMuxer. It was TsRemux that had problems with it? I never heard of version 1.2.9. All the TsMuxer versions have been 1.8.XX.

[mrr19121970]

Can I choose between BluRay and AVCH from either CLI or meta file? If so, could some kind soul tell me how?


yes, it's in your META file:


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500



MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500

[RobertR]

Thanks a lot mrr19121970

[G_M_C]

Hi all!

Now I begin to implement "restore cropped video" function.
This is hard feature, so I plan to implement it during 1-2 week.

How it will be work:
I plan to modify H.264 stream. 2 new slices will be inserted to the stream: for bottom and top black region. Current slice(s) with video will be changed by modifying the field "first_mb_in_slice".
Black slice are very compact, so the size of the stream rises slightly.

He, here's my chance !

I want to thank you for the development of this great tool, it just gets better and better ! Keep up the good work !.

[flyingernst]

I have 1.2.9
history http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR/version-history

I think I will test all Versions until I find the first not working version.
Ich think tsmuxer sets a wrong flag while muxing, because PCH and Onkyo TX-SR805 show both that they want to stream/decode DTS-HD Master (in some versions even Dolby Digital...), not High Resolution

[mrr19121970]

@roman76r

I don't know if you noticed, or anyone else reported this:

the ASPECT RATIO in the tsMuxeR (incl 1.8.35) is incorrectly set to 4:3 instead of 16:9 on SD video streams.

Additionally tsMuxeR does not identify VC-1 1080i video streams.

[flyingernst]

is there any way to make a bug report for tsmuxer?

[G_M_C]

is there any way to make a bug report for tsmuxer?

Mail to smlabs is the only at this moment afaik. The adress is somewhere a few pages back in the thread.

[rotty]

email tsmuxer

tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

[roman76r]

the ASPECT RATIO in the tsMuxeR (incl 1.8.35) is incorrectly set to 4:3 instead of 16:9 on SD video streams.
yes, I forgot to solve this bug. I'll include this bug fix to the next version.

Now I continue to implement "restore cropped video". Most part of the code already written. So, total progress (include debuging) near 40-50%.

[jtheripper]

Roman, I can't wait for the restore cropped video. That should be a real nice addition as many MVK's are cropped (why I do not know) just as why do they release them as MKV's instead of either m2ts or BD structure. All the PH and PS3 will play m2ts files and as more people are buying BD standalone players that is the future. Sure the MKV file size is smaller but for all the people who alrady have a BD player we have to reencode now to add back the cropped bars to make them BD compliant. Hopefully with your addition that will not be needed anymore

[b66pak]

"restore cropped video" will be a HUGE add-on...
_

[jhmac]

I agree that has been most of the problems I've had restoring the mkv to proper HD res. Thanks for all of your hard work...

[shon3i]

Restoring crop is only for H264 right? what with VC-1?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Restoring crop is only for H264 right? what with VC-1?
99% of people have croped h264 instead of VC-1. I wouldn't waste time for 1%

[shon3i]

True, but what about ref frames if they are higher than 4 for 1920x1080 or 8 for 1280x720? Uncrop will not be so popular if stream still out of specs. Aslo cropped VC-1 should not have that problem.

[Atak_Snajpera]

True, but what about ref frames if they are higher than 4 for 1920x1080 or 8 for 1280x720?
Roman is a GENIUS but not a GOD :)

[roman76r]

shon3i
Restoring crop is only for H264 right? what with VC-1?
for H264 only.

True, but what about ref frames if they are higher than 4 for 1920x1080 or 8 for 1280x720?
I can change this parameter in H.264 headers.
But some frames will be with artifacts (where is large ref frames is used).

[Ryu77]

Is anybody able to define exactly what is the difference between the two muxing options of "Blu-ray disk" and "AVCHD disk"?

I understand the differences on an elementary stream level but I would like to know what exactly is changed when muxing... ?

[mrr19121970]

@Roman76r. Are you able to resolve the interlaced HD VC-1 video stream issue ?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1259310#post1259310


All Versions Upto V1.8.22:

"E:\TVIX\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR_1.8.22(b)\tsMuxeR.exe" "S:\BDMV\STREAM
\00000.m2ts"
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.35(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Track ID: 4113
Can't detect stream type
Track ID: 4352
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: deu
Track ID: 4353
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: eng
Track ID: 4608
Stream type: PGS
Stream ID: S_HDMV/PGS
Stream info: Presentation Graphic Stream #0
Stream lang: deu


BDInfo & eac3to correctly identify this as a VC1 1080i/25

[mrr19121970]

Is anybody able to define exactly what is the difference between the two muxing options of "Blu-ray disk" and "AVCHD disk"?

I understand the differences on an elementary stream level but I would like to know what exactly is changed when muxing... ?


I don't know, as I've not tried it. but this is what it should do:

. the version number in the headers should be 1 for AVCHD (2 for blu-ray) eg HDMV0100 instead of HDMV0200
. the directory structure is slightly different
. the files are limited to 4gb in size (FAT32)
. the filenames are in 8.3 format (FAT32)

you can see here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141361

[SeeMoreDigital]

yes, I forgot to solve this bug. I'll include this bug fix to the next version.

Now I continue to implement "restore cropped video". Most part of the code already written. So, total progress (include debuging) near 40-50%.Could you also accommodate the suggestion I made here please too: -

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1261710#post1261710


Cheers

[roman76r]

mrr19121970
there is another important difference: AVCHD descriptor are stored in index.bdmv file.
Without this descriptor PS3 does not recognize AVCHD disks.

@Roman76r. Are you able to resolve the interlaced HD VC-1 video stream issue ?
Can your send me small example of problem stream please?

[roman76r]

SeeMoreDigital
I'll change this text at nearest release.

[deank]

I don't know, as I've not tried it. but this is what it should do:

. the version number in the headers should be 1 for AVCHD (2 for blu-ray) eg HDMV0100 instead of HDMV0200
. the directory structure is slightly different
. the files are limited to 4gb in size (FAT32)
. the filenames are in 8.3 format (FAT32)


None of these are true, except "the directory structure is slightly different" and about the directory - it is that some folders are not present in AVCHD.

For example you can have an AVCHD DVD disc, containing one 4.4GB 00000.m2ts file and all names in longer format... Headers 0100/0200 are version numbers that have no real impact. The things you listed are only valid if using USB/SD/MMC media, not optical media.

The major difference are the restrictions that separate BD and AVCHD (video codec, bitrate, audio codecs). Luckily HW manufacturers don't follow them strictly, hence the possibility to play AVCHD-like structures with BD content. Other difference is the extended data in index.bdmv and the completely different extended data in clpi/mpls files which are REALLY AVCHD - those produced by camcoders and those that will play on PanasonicTV with SDHC card support.

Dean

[idbirch2]

Roman, can you remember to go back to standard file naming when splitting files - in 1.8.35, split files get called 00000.split1.m2ts, 00000.split2.m2ts instead of just 00001.m2ts, 00002.m2ts etc?

[SeeMoreDigital]

SeeMoreDigital
I'll change this text at nearest release.:thanks:

[shon3i]

I can change this parameter in H.264 headers.
But some frames will be with artifacts (where is large ref frames is used). Better no then. What you think about some stream anylize before mux, to notice user that stream is 100% compactible with Blu-Ray or not

[mrr19121970]

Can your send me small example of problem stream please?

I PMed you the clip...

[ExSport]

Better no then. What you think about some stream anylize before mux, to notice user that stream is 100% compactible with Blu-Ray or not
I think that as an option it is for someone usefull.
For example some 1080p file with 5ref frames can't be played at all without reencooding but maybe only 3times in a stream 4ref frames are breaked with 5.
So what is better, unsupported file or supported file with few glitches in stream?
Roman it will be great if you give an option for someone to use this "header patch":)
Thanks for your great soft:cool:
P.S.
Exist some soft which can analyze video stream and report e.g. how much % stream uses more that 4/8 ref frames so we will know if it is usefull to use header fix or not(without watching whole movie)?
Thx

[ps3hacker]

the version number in the headers should be 1 for AVCHD (2 for blu-ray) eg HDMV0100 instead of HDMV0200

Deank, why do you not beleive this to be true. If we are trying to be compliant here, then this also must not be overlooked. Although it t might seem unimportant now, it may lead to uncompatability with some players.

[turbojet]

Real AVCHD is restricted to 4 GB files, 8.3 filenames, exists in an AVCHD directory and not many standalones support it. Sony does and Panasonic just recently supported it in the latest firmware, LG BD370 supposedly supports AVCHD through USB but not from disk. It's mainly used in AVCHD cameras and flash drives.

It goes far beyond just changing a header in an index.bdmv (really index.bdm in AVCHD). You can't rely on what the player is telling you it is because it gets confused itself. If you burn it on a DVD and play in PS3 it will probably display AVCHD, put that dvd in another player and it could display BD, Samsung and Panasonic do afaik. Put the same content on a BD and the PS3 mysteriously shows it as a BD, it just assumes red laser is AVCHD and blue laser is BD, no matter what the header is.

Whether TSMuxer plans on outputting real AVCHD vs what it does now by changing a header is up to them I guess, but it brings up a lot more confusion if it stays the way it is. The current AVCHD output would be more appropriate being just an option for using 0100 headers for pesky players as the output is still 100% BD content with a changed header.

[deank]

Okay.. Let's put it another way:

I know and so does Roman, that 0100/0200 has nothing to do with AVCHD or BLURAYDISC, LONG vs. 8.3 names has NOTHING to do either. Size may matter as AVCHD poses restriction to 8cm DVD discs which can't hold 4+GiB but UDF2.5 can. Differences are completely different.

And let's cut all this.

***

Earlier today I posted about a bug in 34b vs 18b - I'm really sorry if I mislead someone - it was not tsMuxeR's bug, but TONS of files with problems (or my laptop).

[zeropc]

i created an avchd with v1.8.35(b) and it doesn't get recognized by my ps3!!!
i used avchd output. any ideas?

[turbojet]

deank: You could be correct about the extra data being the main factor between AVCHD and BD. I'm too naive about that but I do see a lot of people saying 100 is AVCHD and 200 is BD and they say that changes between BD and AVCHD. The 3 AVCHD camera images I've worked with have been stored on FAT32 drives so they come with 8.3 names, split in 4GB and had the BDMV folder inside PRIVATE/AVCHD. I will try to get my hands on another one of these soon so maybe they can be investigated further from someone more intelligent then me.

In general there's a lot of confusion between AVCHD and BD and some software and some hardware players are making it more confusing, TSMuxer being one of these now but it could work out to help defining the differences in the future. I think the majority has been led to believe that AVCHD = movie only on DVD/BD and BD = menus and all on a DVD/BD, which is misleading.

multiAVCHD output used in multiAVCHD is the closest I've seen to an avchd output from a mux and while it's not quite exact it does seem to trick a lot of players to play it from flash drive which is the main purpose. I do remember someone posting something from nero that represented what I've experienced as AVCHD.

But concerning TSMuxer I wonder what they are trying to do with the output to AVCHD disk. Taking a wild guess here but I think it would be for flash drive playback, which in that case I agree with mrr19121970 that it really should follow FAT32 standards and use a different directory structure (I don't know if PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV is required) along with denying DTS audio and VC-1 input. The only differences I see currently are bdmv file headers to 100 and adds more data to index.bdmv.

zeropc: use bluray output and it should work although you might need to use an older version to get it to work.

[idbirch2]

i created an avchd with v1.8.35(b) and it doesn't get recognized by my ps3!!!
i used avchd output. any ideas?See my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1264588#post1264588).

[Ryu77]

Roman, feature request... :)

Is it possible for tsMuxeR GUI to remember the last directory navigated to? This is quite useful for appending files. I still use v1.8.8 for appending files as it is much easier and quicker because of this reason.

However, this becomes annoying when muxing a new file and the GUI looks for the last directory navigated to, only to display an error because that folder is now deleted.

So, to be clear, this would be great to remember the most recent directory while the current GUI remains open but this should be cleared once the GUI window is closed.

[roman76r]

Ryu77
Is it possible for tsMuxeR GUI to remember the last directory navigated to?
tsMuxerGUI remember last directory. If this does not happen, possible it is small bug.
Anywhere you can append several files thus: select several files in explorer and drag& drop it to join button.

[coolalibaba]

I can confirm the new GUI doesn't remember the last dir.

[Ryu77]

Ryu77

tsMuxerGUI remember last directory. If this does not happen, possible it is small bug.
Anywhere you can append several files thus: select several files in explorer and drag& drop it to join button.

Oh yes, I should have been clearer. I was requesting that the feature be brought back... So... For all intensive purposes if that feature was not removed, then yes it seems the new GUI has a bug.

[choyu]

@Roman
Thanks for the great work.

Will it be possible later to mux DVD subtitles?
For me,I really hope that TSMUXER can convert idx/sub(vobsub) subtitles to SUB and then has ability to convert SUB TO PGS,because I want to use idx/sub subtitles to mux with SD MPEG-2 video stream(720x480/576,VOB files)and finally make it AVCHD playback in PS3 HDD.

Sorry for my bad english.
Thanks again!

[Quatre]

what is the latest version of tsMuxeR? whats best sites/links to get it from? and what is the difference between tsMuxeR a nd tsRemux?

[turbojet]

what is the latest version of tsMuxeR? whats best sites/links to get it from? and what is the difference between tsMuxeR a nd tsRemux?

1.8.35 is latest from smlabs (http://smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html) but you might be better off using 1.8.30 for now, seems there's some unexpected bugs in the latest version.

TSMuxer is being developed and can do more then TSRemux like demux and handles chapters, srt, mkv, etc.

TSRemux is no longer being developed but it's open source

[zeropc]

See my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1264588#post1264588).

the filenames are ok, atleast from the splitting p.o.v. ;)

they look like this

00000.m2ts
00001.m2ts
00002.m2ts

but that doesn't help me, cause the ps3 doesn't like this structure. i think running avchdme will fix it. i had hope to leave out that extra. not a true biggie though, but it wouldn't require a boot up in to windows.

[idbirch2]

Oh I see, yes those filenames are fine and as you say it's just the file extensions which need fixing. Yes, avchdme will take care of that although an 8.3 output option in tsmuxer would be nice.

[Warbucks81]

1.8.35 is latest from smlabs (http://smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html) but you might be better off using 1.8.30 for now, seems there's some unexpected bugs in the latest version.

TSMuxer is being developed and can do more then TSRemux like demux and handles chapters, srt, mkv, etc.

TSRemux is no longer being developed but it's open source

Which unexpected bugs are you referring to with regards to version 1.8.35?

[roman76r]

I have bad news. Seemingly is not possible to modify H.264 stream correctly for restore cropped frame.
I made this function but it does not work.
Here is example: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/cropTest/cropTest.264

So, I put two slices to top and bottom of the frame, and changed the first_mb_in_slice for main picture. But is does not work: in top and bottom of the picture artefacts is appear. Problem is that the motion vectors may extend beyond the frame. In this case, virtual pixels, placed beyond of the frame should have same color as the pixels in the first or last line of the frame. But after the insertion of black slices this motion vectors refer to the real black pixels. Thus some macroblocks in the first or last line is broken for P and B frames. In next frame, this artefacts can be shift to 2-th macroblock line e.t.c to the next I frame.

[Atak_Snajpera]

roman76r
Too bad that you wasted your time for that. Maybe you should try something (theoritically) easier like resizing subtitles ?

[deank]

Roman,

aren't slices supposed to be independent fragments, not affected by other slices nor mvectors?

Did you change 1st original slice and or the original headers with the new Y offset/coordinate?

Did you try to add 4 slices instead of 2 - one that describes just 16 pixels above original frame top and one above it (same for the bottom)?

Dean

p.s. I have more elegant solution without even touching the original video (no matter if it is h264/mpeg2/vc1) and it concerns mpls files. I'll be glad to work together on this approach.

[roman76r]

deank
Please download example again - I have uploaded wrong file.


Did you change 1st original slice and or the original headers with the new Y offset/coordinate?
I have change header in original slice: "first_mb_in_slice" field. This field stores the first macroblock number, i.e. Y offset.

Did you try to add 4 slices instead of 2 - one that describes just 16 pixels above original frame top and one above it (same for the bottom)?

I think this does not solve the problem - out of frame motion vectors will still refer to the black pixels instead "virtual" pixels duplicated from first/last line.

p.s. I have more elegant solution without even touching the original video (no matter if it is h264/mpeg2/vc1) and it concerns mpls files. I'll be glad to work together on this approach
I'll be glad to work together too.

Atak_Snajpera
Too bad that you wasted your time for that. Maybe you should try something (theoritically) easier like resizing subtitles ?
Next feature in my feature list - wave64 support. But resizing subtitles also is on the feature list.

[deank]

deank
Please download example again - I have uploaded wrong file.


Yes, this sample looks much better. It seems that it is not the motion vectors that cause the problem (they are used during encoding process, not decoding, right?) but slices using macroblocks from the newly inserted slices instead of the original ones.


I have change header in original slice: "first_mb_in_slice" field. This field stores the first macroblock number, i.e. Y offset.


And what about the rest of the slices in the picture?

[roman76r]

Yes, this sample looks much better. It seems that it is not the motion vectors that cause the problem (they are used during encoding process, not decoding, right?)
Motion vectods used in decoding process. I can see this problem visually in elecard stream eye. Here is example: www.smlabs.ru/tsMuxer/cropTest/example.JPG
Red lines shows motion vectors.
I talked with my friend - the guru of H.264 - and hi confirmed that the problem in this. Also he said that this problem can't be solved.

And what about the rest of the slices in the picture?
Rest of slice still unchanged. of course I move this rest (it is 99,99% of the slice size) to severals bits because "first_mb_in_slice" field has a variable length depending on the field value.

[tebasuna51]

Next feature in my feature list - wave64 support.

Thanks!

Then Pcm2Tsmu is finish.

Ask me if you have any problem with w64. There are some free code at nicaudio in my signature. Is very easy compared with video.

[scott1256ca]

I have tried running the linux tsMuxeR 1.8.35b and the output is not recognized by AVCHDManager (1.3.8 may not be most recent version). The filenames are
00000.m2ts etc. (not with split in the name).
00000.clpi
Windows version of tsMuxer has same naming convention and my version of AVCHDManager doesn't recognize files created on windows either.
In fact the only difference I see between this and my older version (still on 1.8.18) is that the numbering starts at 00000, not 00001

I have tried renaming by hand but my ps3 will not recognize the files. I suspect starting the numbering with 00000 instead of 00001 is to blame, but i'm no expert.
BTW ps3 is on 2.60 firmware.

[deank]

multiAVCHD uses 00000 as a start and it is related to mpls files to hold the same link to m2ts/clpi files.

[rapscallion]

I've muxed a raw 264 movie file to "create blu-ray disc" with chapters set to 10 min, as well as the default 5 min.

The resulting movie stream, m2ts, has NO chapters in either case. Is this a chapter feature that is not available in this mode ?

[setarip_old]

@rapscallion

Hi!

1) What are you using for playback?

2) Are you playing the full BluRay "package", or simply playing the .M2TS file directly?

[rapscallion]

Hey setarip !
Full blu-ray structure to burn as a AVCHD DVD9, playable on a SA Blu-ray player.

I converted an MKV file by muxing to a m2ts and then re encode video, via Megui (SA Avchd profile) to a 1280*720.
Then tsmuxer again to muxe video and audio. .
However, when I view the m2ts file w/Midiainfo, there are no visible chapters (they're visible in the original mkv) Plays fine via Media Player Classic and.....

If I create a small test video, ~4gb, no chapters there either, when playing on a SA Player.

[roman76r]

deank
I think there is another way to solve the problem with cropped video. It is a BD-J technology. I have readed documentation and found suitable JAVA interface:
AWTVideoSizeControl (http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr927/)

[deank]

@roman:

Yes, but it will never work for AVCHD or SAP players ignoring BD-J on DVD media.

At one point in multiAVCHD development I was thinking of using java.tv for custom menus as it is much much easier than HDMV but I dropped out the idea, as many (and more to come) players won't accept BD-J on a DVD (BD5/BD9).

I'll email you about my other idea later.

Also there is a way to use PAT in m2ts as I posted 2 months ago in multiAVCHD thread but I'd rather go for the other - which is almost the same.

@rapscallion: multiAVCHD will keep your MKV chapters.

[setarip_old]

@rapscallionthen re encode video, via MeguiI could be wrong but, I think this is where you're losing the chapters...

[rapscallion]

@rapscallionI could be wrong but, I think this is where you're losing the chapters...
Oh, Ok, so the chapters have to be in there for tsmuxer to set the lengths, when remuxing. It doesn't "create chapters". That makes sense.

Thanks for the responses setarip !

[setarip_old]

@rapscallionThanks for the responses setarip !You're quite welcome!

Let us know how things work out ;>}

[rack04]

Version 1.8.35B does not work with my BD-35. The player give error "unsupported" disc.

[coolalibaba]

deank
I think there is another way to solve the problem with cropped video. It is a BD-J technology. I have readed documentation and found suitable JAVA interface:
AWTVideoSizeControl (http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr927/)
I heard PS3 after firmware 2.5 disabled BD-J in AVCHD/DVD media?

[mrr19121970]

I PMed you the clip...

@Roman67R.

Can I delete the VC1 1080i file now ?

[scott1256ca]

I have tried the older linux versions that I can find of tsmuxer. 1.8.30b and 1.8.24b can't seem to split files, although 1.8.30b will write a directory structure that my ps3 can read (if the file is less than 4g, of course). For 1.8.35b I did try both blu-ray and avchd authoring. Both write files starting @ 00000 and my ps3 won't recognize the AVCHD folder. Has anyone had success reading from a ps3 with 1.8.35b? Is there a linux version that will split files and write something readable from the ps3?

Thanks

edit: Ok, I tried multiavchd in avchd mode, and it also writes 00000.mts and 00000.cpi files when complete (and uses tsmuxer). It does work in my ps3, so there must be something else going on.

[shv]

@Roman:

Thank you for the great TsMuxeR tool. I would like to ask if the small problem with the GUI which was introduced with the 1.8.30 version and is also available in 1.8.35 can be corrected? When I drag and drop a file onto the GUI the window is shortly flickering and seams to be a bit transparent afterwards. I am using Windows XP version.

Regards.
shv

[DoomBot]

@Roman:

Thank you for the great TsMuxeR tool. I would like to ask if the small problem with the GUI which was introduced with the 1.8.30 version and is also available in 1.8.35 can be corrected? When I drag and drop a file onto the GUI the window is shortly flickering and seams to be a bit transparent afterwards. I am using Windows XP version.

Regards.
shv

Yep i have the same problem

[deank]

Does THAT really matter?! After all it is the output that matters, not pleasuring your visual experience!

[Underground78]

Are you sure it's a bug ? It might be a feature.

[rapscallion]

Oh, Ok, so the chapters have to be in there for tsmuxer to set the lengths, when remuxing. It doesn't "create chapters". That makes sense.

Thanks for the responses setarip !

@rapscallionYou're quite welcome!

Let us know how things work out ;>}
As it turns out, after reading some other thread, the chapters are stored in a *.clpi file and accessed via the playlist file, *.mpls.

So, it would appear that tsmuxer can "create" chapters, at the times selected. However if playing back w/a pc program that only plays the *.m2ts file (like MPC) then you won't see them.

I have yet to confirm that the chapters are created and accessible on a SA Blu-ray player yet.

[deank]

[removed]

[idbirch2]

OK lads, lets all just have a breather and relax, I don't think anyone intended to start a personal attack, Dean's probably just had his fill of users for today and rapscallion should probably do a bit more reading before asking such simple questions (of course, playing an m2ts straight will not give you chapters - 3.5 years here, come one - does a VOB file played straight do that without it's original DVD structure in place?)

[scott1256ca]

well, I at least think I figured out part of the issue I was having. If I use tsmuxer1.8.35b and author as AVCHD I can get it to play in my ps3. Difference is I removed the empty directories, or at least the ones that don't get created if I use multiAVCHD. So at least I can get that far.

[scott1256ca]

Oh, by the way. I use large fonts as the default and the previous version of tsMuxerGui didn't display quite correctly (but still useable). I see this version everything looks fine. Thanks for that.

[setarip_old]

@idbirch2does a VOB file played straight do that without it's original DVD structure in place? It does if you play it under VLC ;>}

By the way, "rapscallion" was initially responding to me. No need for anyone else to get upset by that...

[idbirch2]

And where does VLC magic these chapter points from exactly?

[rapscallion]

[removed]

[ACrowley]

Just want to say that the PopcornHour A110 cant play/passtrough DTS-HD HighREsolution Audio from TSmuxer Output

The untouched Bluray M2ts Files are working perfectly fine and DTS HRA Audio Passthrough works .

As soon i remux it to M2TS with TS muxer = no Sound because the Receiver cant detect the Format properly ( i know a few People with the same Problem)
DTS-HD MA works.

So i assume that TSmuxer breaks DTS HRA ?

[piratburner]

Just want to say that the PopcornHour A110 cant play/passtrough DTS-HD HighREsolution Audio from TSmuxer Output

The untouched Bluray M2ts Files are working perfectly fine and DTS HRA Audio Passthrough works .

As soon i remux it to M2TS with TS muxer = no Sound because the Receiver cant detect the Format properly ( i know a few People with the same Problem)
DTS-HD MA works.

So i assume that TSmuxer breaks DTS HRA ?

Yes I can confirm This, And I have TVIX 6500 some works and some NOT ??

The old version works( latest last year) perfect but all the latest from this year have some kind of problems:-(

[ACrowley]

Yes I can confirm This, And I have TVIX 6500 some works and some NOT ??

The old version works( latest last year) perfect but all the latest from this year have some kind of problems:-(

Ah ok..

Latest Version in 2008 was TSmuxer 1.8.19b, correct ?
Doesnt work too with DTS HRA!

Somebody told me that TSmuxer 1.2.9 works with DTS HRA and Popcornhour.
And yes..the M2TS from TSmuxer 1.2.9works with DTS HR Passtrough

[Pl4yit]

@Roman, hoping that you are still around here :D

Found a small inconsistency using v1.8.34 & 35 (did not check previous versions). See example here below. Input files are a video file, audio file and a SUP subtitle file, de-muxed by eac3to from a Blu-ray disc.

If you want to cut the 'tsmux'-ing from, for example, minute 10 till minute 11, and the subtitle file contains the following start/end PTS information displayed here below, then the "cutting" will stop after 27 seconds, whereas I would have had expected that it would continue till minute 11, despite the fact that the next subtitle only starts after minute 15.


...
Subtitle #54 - Start: 00:10:20.537 End: 00:10:22.956
Subtitle #55 - Start: 00:10:23.040 End: 00:10:25.542
Subtitle #56 - Start: 00:10:26.376 End: 00:10:27.753
Subtitle #57 - Start: 00:15:16.833 End: 00:15:18.794
...

[deank]

I'd like to apologize for seemingly inappropriate attitude.

It's just my inability to explain myself which aggravates me often and also being in a family of teachers, it worsens things much more.

I'm sorry, I wanted to help, not confront. I've learned a lot from doom9 forums for all these years before I dared to post and sometimes I forget how hard it was.

No hard feelings.

Dean

[rica]

Deank congrats.

[schlaufer]

And where does VLC magic these chapter points from exactly?

I don't have the time to look into VLC's source code, but I assume it takes changes in the cell-id as chapter points, which have a 1-to-1 relationship to chaptermarks found in the IFO for 99% of the DVDs that are not using multiple angels.

[rapscallion]

Thank you dean! I appreciate the apology and accept it in the spirit it was intended.

You, in fact, have been very helpful in your previous responses to me. (thank you for the pm,as well)

So, moving forward, in that spirit, I have deleted my post(s). No hard feelings.

[DoomBot]

Yes I can confirm This, And I have TVIX 6500 some works and some NOT ??

The old version works( latest last year) perfect but all the latest from this year have some kind of problems:-(


Yup i have the same problem with some working and others not working with DTS-HD and i have a Kaiboer K300 seams we need a fix.

[DoomBot]

Just want to say that the PopcornHour A110 cant play/passtrough DTS-HD HighREsolution Audio from TSmuxer Output

The untouched Bluray M2ts Files are working perfectly fine and DTS HRA Audio Passthrough works .

As soon i remux it to M2TS with TS muxer = no Sound because the Receiver cant detect the Format properly ( i know a few People with the same Problem)
DTS-HD MA works.

So i assume that TSmuxer breaks DTS HRA ?

This is what i was talking about in the above post about DTS-HD not working on all files

[DoomBot]

Ah ok..

Latest Version in 2008 was TSmuxer 1.8.19b, correct ?
Doesnt work too with DTS HRA!

Somebody told me that TSmuxer 1.2.9 works with DTS HRA and Popcornhour.
And yes..the M2TS from TSmuxer 1.2.9works with DTS HR Passtrough

I tried TSmuxer 1.2.9 on a movie that was not working and still no DTS HRA passthrough with the DTS-HD master track muxed with it. If i mux
just the DTS HR track then it works just fine though.:confused:

[ACrowley]

I tried TSmuxer 1.2.9 on a movie that was not working and still no DTS HRA passthrough with the DTS-HD master track muxed with it. If i mux
just the DTS HR track then it works just fine though.:confused:

Have you made a simple Remux from the faulty M2TS with 1.2.9 ?
It wont work ! You have to mux it fully new with the untouched Source Files.
It works 100% fine with all DTS-HRA i tried so far on my Popcorn A110:)

DTS-HD MA Audio works fine here. Also with the latest Version of TSMuxer

I agree we need a fix for DTS-HD/HR muxing. Theres obviously something wrong when Standalone Players cannot handle the Output from TSMuxer.

[flyingernst]

who will make a bugreport to them?

[DoomBot]

Have you made a simple Remux from the faulty M2TS with 1.2.9 ?
It wont work ! You have to mux it fully new with the untouched Source Files.
It works 100% fine with all DTS-HRA i tried so far on my Popcorn A110:)

DTS-HD MA Audio works fine here. Also with the latest Version of TSMuxer

I agree we need a fix for DTS-HD/HR muxing. Theres obviously something wrong when Standalone Players cannot handle the Output from TSMuxer.

I made a new remux with the untouched file not the faulty one, and the only audio i muxed in was the DTS-HD Master and since i dont have a receiver that decodes HD audio it plays the core DTS but in this case it does not play the core along with some other movies.
I have many others with DTS-HD Master and it plays the core just fine but no matter what i do with the ones that dont it just wont work until i remux to have just the DTS core and not the Master audio then it works and only then.

[ACrowley]

I made a new remux with the untouched file not the faulty one, and the only audio i muxed in was the DTS-HD Master and since i dont have a receiver that decodes HD audio it plays the core DTS but in this case it does not play the core along with some other movies.
I have many others with DTS-HD Master and it plays the core just fine but no matter what i do with the ones that dont it just wont work until i remux to have just the DTS core and not the Master audio then it works and only then.

Ah youre talking about the core....Ok
However, i ve no Problems with DTS-HD MA/Core with latest Version on Popcornhour A110.
Its DTS-HRA what makes Problems (also not the Core)

But, when you dont have a HD Audio capable Receiver, why do you mux the DTS HD Data with possible Problems, doesnt make Sense for me?

[DoomBot]

Ah youre talking about the core....Ok
However, i ve no Problems with DTS-HD MA/Core with latest Version on Popcornhour A110.
Its DTS-HRA what makes Problems (also not the Core)

But, when you dont have a HD Audio capable Receiver, why do you mux the DTS HD Data with possbible Problems, doesnt make Sense for me?

The reason i keep the DTS-HD Master is so that i dont have to go back later and redo it, i will get a new receiver at some point in time.

[rack04]

Can tsMuxer mux subtitles into ts files? If so, what format do they need to be in? Thanks.

[ACrowley]

The reason i keep the DTS-HD Master is so that i dont have to go back later and redo it, i will get a new receiver at some point in time.

What playback Device are you using , a popcornhour ?

[piratburner]

I have a TviX 6500 and have sound problems (No sound) with several BD disc, one example are this Licence to Kill 1989 1080p Blu-ray CEE AVC DTS-HD

Info regarding sound track.

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID/String : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/ : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Profile : HRA
Duration/String : 2 h 13 min
Bitrate : 3 045 Kbps
Kanal(er) : 6 kanaler
Kanalplatser : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Samplingstakt : 48,0 KHz
Upplösning : 24 bits

[ACrowley]

I have a TviX 6500 and have sound problems (No sound) with several BD disc, one example are this Licence to Kill 1989 1080p Blu-ray CEE AVC DTS-HD

Info regarding sound track.

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID/String : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/ : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Profile : HRA
Duration/String : 2 h 13 min
Bitrate : 3 045 Kbps
Kanal(er) : 6 kanaler
Kanalplatser : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Samplingstakt : 48,0 KHz
Upplösning : 24 bits

You mean remuxed BD disc ? I dont have any Problmes with any HD Audio Passtrough when using untouched M2TS.

Newer Version of TSmuxer wont work properly with DTS HRA Tracks
I assume it works for your Player too with old 1.2.9 Version.
Works for me with DTS HRA on my NMT A110

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR/old-versions#download

[piratburner]

And this BD disc works Never Say Never Again 1983 1080p Blu-ray AVC DTS HD-MA 5.1



Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID/String : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/ : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Profile : MA
Duration/String : 2 h 14 min
Kanal(er) : 6 kanaler
Kanalplatser : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Samplingstakt : 48,0 KHz
Upplösning : 24 bits
Språk : Engelska


So its must be the Format_Profile : HRA that cause problem in the TsMuxer

[piratburner]

yeah...newer Version of TSmuxer wont work properly with TSmuxer

I assume it works for your Player too with old 1.2.9 Version.
Works for me with DTS HRA on my NMT A110

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR/old-versions#download

I will try the old one , thanks for the links :-)

To bad , the "Create Blu-Ray disc" is not supported :-(

Is there a newer version that works with HRA and Create Blu-Ray disc ?

[piratburner]

You mean remuxed BD disc ? I dont have any Problmes with any HD Audio Passtrough when using untouched M2TS.

Yes remuxed BD :-) byt I use "Create Blu-ray disc" when the latest BETA FW allow both BD structure and BD ISO :-) then I never using M2TS muxing

[DoomBot]

What playback Device are you using , a popcornhour ?


I have a Kaiboer K300

[tu]

the latest version tsMuxer should supports subtitle right? I tried to with Fearless bluray as a test but with no luck. Both WDTV and WMP will not display the subtitle when requested. Is this a bug? I know subtitle worked fine with other versions of tsMuxer

[ACrowley]

I will try the old one , thanks for the links :-)

To bad , the "Create Blu-Ray disc" is not supported :-(

Is there a newer version that works with HRA and Create Blu-Ray disc ?

I think so.. i have not the Time to test ist upwards...but i bet there are a few higher Version with proper/compliant DTS HRA output

I really hope Smartlabs will release a fixed Version soon.

[sucker]

i want to trim a TrueHD track with tsmuxer (or add a negative delay while remuxing, which essientally should be the same?)
i would like to trim it as precisely as possible (in ms), i need to trim it 3m:45s:516ms which is 223516ms, tsmuxer only accepts a 5 digit input, why is that (question to Roman) and is there any way around it?
as was mentioned in the thread about my prob in the Audio encoding forum, is it correct that trimming/delaying a TrueHD stream only works when the source is already a muxed .m2ts and it doesn´t work with demuxed files?

[deank]

i would like to trim it as precisely as possible (in ms), i need to trim it 3m:45s:516ms which is 223516ms, tsmuxer only accepts a 5 digit input, why is that (question to Roman) and is there any way around it?

Cut-end in gui ver 1.8.8 accepts more than 5 digits.

[ACrowley]

I found another Problem.

The Popcornhour cant detect (auto framerate detection) 24.000Fps Stream properly when remuxed with TSmuxer. The untouched M2ts workd fine ,MKV too.
Ok, you can say that these Problems (DTS HRA Bug too) are more or less popcornhour related...sure, but these Problems are only caused by TSmuxer when (re)muxing into M2TS.

[piratburner]

I found another Problem.

The Popcornhour cant detect (auto framerate detection) 24.000Fps Stream properly when remuxed with TSmuxer. The untouched M2ts workd fine ,MKV too.
Ok, you can say that these Problems (DTS HRA Bug too) are more or less popcornhour related...sure, but these Problems are only caused by TSmuxer when (re)muxing into M2TS.

I have a TviX so it's not only a PCH problem

[piratburner]

Ah ok..

Latest Version in 2008 was TSmuxer 1.8.19b, correct ?
Doesnt work too with DTS HRA!

Somebody told me that TSmuxer 1.2.9 works with DTS HRA and Popcornhour.
And yes..the M2TS from TSmuxer 1.2.9works with DTS HR Passtrough

Have now tested 1.2.9 BUT it's only output standard DTS ! :-( not DTS-HD.

So its something wrong with HRA even at 1.2.9.

Going to test the original m2ts at my Tvix

[piratburner]

Have now tested 1.2.9 BUT it's only output standard DTS ! :-( not DTS-HD.

So its something wrong with HRA even at 1.2.9.

Going to test the original m2ts at my Tvix

OK, more testing......

Played the original m2ts file at my TviX AND there areNO SOUND either

So its a firmware issue for the TVIX not the TsmuxeR

[deank]

What kind of strange tsmuxer versions do you use? 1.2.x?! Try with 1.8.8 or 1.8.18 or 1.8.24 or 1.8.34.

[piratburner]

What kind of strange tsmuxer versions do you use? 1.2.x?! Try with 1.8.8 or 1.8.18 or 1.8.24 or 1.8.34.

I have tried with almost every version ,LIKE I SAY it's a FW issue for TVIX , since the original m2ts files DON'T work on my TVIX

So NO issue for TsmuxeR :D

[deank]

Here is a link to some tsmuxer versions I have:

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/tsMuxeR/ (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/tsMuxeR/)

[piratburner]

Here is a link to some tsmuxer versions I have:

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/tsMuxeR/ (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/tsMuxeR/)

And here are more :D
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR/old-versions#download

[DoomBot]

I found out as well that its a firmware issue on my Kaiboer K300 player with the DTS-HD problem.

[ACrowley]

What kind of strange tsmuxer versions do you use? 1.2.x?! Try with 1.8.8 or 1.8.18 or 1.8.24 or 1.8.34.
once again :)

Its a Probhlem caused by new TSmuxer Versions !! All newer Versions are NOT working clean with DTS-HRA
But the old v1.2.9 can mux DTS-HRA into M2TS and the Popcornhour and some orher SA Player can read/passtrough it

@pirateburner
Ive absolutly no Problem with untouched M2TS Streams on my Popcorn A110. M2TS with TrueHD/DTS-HD/HR..works perfectly fine.
Only remuxed M2TS output from TSmuxer breaks the playback of DTS-HRA.

[sucker]

thx for the hint Dean, the 1.8.4 GUI really accepts more than 5 digits in the trim/delay box while the new 1.8.30 GUI only accepts 5 digits
@ Roman: could you please change that back in the new GUI so that more than 5 digits are allowed in the delay/trim box?

tia ;)

[roman76r]

New version of tsMuxeR is available: http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html
Two new features added: Sony wave64 support and mkv chapters.

Also, this version includes new experimental feature: parameter "secondary" for video streams. This options allows to mux PIP video stream. tsMuxeR centers PIP streams on the screen by vertical position. Possible this function allows to resolve problem with cropped video in future. This options available in tsMuxer only and does not provided in tsMuxerGUI.

sucker
could you please change that back in the new GUI so that more than 5 digits are allowed in the delay/trim box?
I increased the size of this fields. New GUI is here: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxerGUI_1.9.2(b).zip

[cavediver]

I just downloaded the new version 1.9.1(b).zip. It won't open giving me a message that the file is corrupted.

[roman76r]

cavediver
Seemingly problem in your internet connection - file is valid. File size is 2,720,822 bytes.

[nwg]

cavediver
Seemingly problem in your internet connection - file is valid. File size is 2,720,822 bytes.

I am also getting a corrupt error.

edit.

It extracted ok with winrar but not with window built in zip.

[cavediver]

cavediver
Seemingly problem in your internet connection - file is valid. File size is 2,720,822 bytes.

There's nothing wrong with my internet connection. I've downloaded the 1.9.1(b).zip file from 3 different computers and none of them can open the file giving the same corrupt error. The 1.9.2(b) GUI downloaded directly from your link above and worked fine. It's just the 1.9.1(b).zip file from the Smartlabs website that won't work.

edit: I also got it to open with winrar, but get the corrupt message trying to open it with windows zip

[ExSport]

Used better compression algorithm which builtin zip don't support.
Use free 7-ZIP (www.7-zip.org);)

[WhatHappend]

Used better compression algorithm which builtin zip don't support.
Use free 7-ZIP (www.7-zip.org);)

The extension should be renamed to 7z instead of zip.

[ultratoto14]

Hi roman76r, could it be possible to add an option to force subtitles ?

[jj666]

Regarding the DTS-HD issue, it seems both the newer (1.8 series) and older (1.2 series) are working wrongly and not differentiating between DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA. Thanks poster above for the tip to use 1.2.9 for testing.

Remuxing Motorhead - Stage Fright which conveniently has DTS, DTS-HD MA and DTS-HD HR tracks, experienced the following on Istar 1.3HD (Sigma chipset player):

TSMUXER 1.2.9 - DTS-HD HR working, DTS-HD MA not working.
TSMUXER 1.8.8 - DTS-HD HR not working, DTS-HD MA working.
TSMUXER 1.8.35 - DTS-HD HR not working, DTS-HD MA working.

Looking at the outputted transport streams with TSDOCTOR (used normally for DVB streams), I saw the following information on the audio.

.TS contents from EAC3TO:
TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 1:29:59, 24p /1.001
1: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: DTS Hi-Res, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
3: DTS Master Audio, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48khz (core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz

TSMUXER 1.2.9:

Stream Type : 234
Description : Private stream type Video VC-1
Elementary PID : $1011
ES Info Length : 8
ES Info : $05, $06, $56, $43, $2D, $31, $01, $94
ES Info Text : __VC-1_”

Stream Type : 133
Description : User private (DTS)
Elementary PID : $1100
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $05, $04, $44, $54, $53, $31
ES Info Text : __DTS1

Stream Type : 133
Description : User private (DTS)
Elementary PID : $1101
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $05, $04, $44, $54, $53, $31
ES Info Text : __DTS1

Stream Type : 130
Description : Private stream type Audio HDMV DTS (DTS)
Elementary PID : $1102
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $05, $04, $44, $54, $53, $31
ES Info Text : __DTS1


TSMUXER 1.8.8:

Stream Type : 234
Description : Private stream type Video VC-1
Elementary PID : $1011
ES Info Length : 8
ES Info : $05, $06, $56, $43, $2D, $31, $01, $94
ES Info Text : __VC-1_”

Stream Type : 134
Description : User private
Elementary PID : $1100
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $0A, $04, $65, $6E, $67, $00
ES Info Text : __eng_

Stream Type : 134
Description : User private
Elementary PID : $1101
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $0A, $04, $65, $6E, $67, $00
ES Info Text : __eng_

Stream Type : 130
Description : Private stream type Audio HDMV DTS (DTS)
Elementary PID : $1102
ES Info Length : 6
ES Info : $0A, $04, $65, $6E, $67, $00
ES Info Text : __eng_


Referencing Madshi's information on stream types (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1223582&postcount=813), I would assume TSMUXER should set DTS-HD MA stream type to 134, and DTS-HD HR stream type to 133. The two different types of audio are not specifically referenced in the TSMUXER GUI (except as DTS-HD).

Will also send an email to Roman.

Cheers,

-jj-

[madshi]

Sony wave64 support
Thanks so much!!

Regarding the DTS-HD issue, it seems both the newer (1.8 series) and older (1.2 series) are working wrongly and not differentiating between DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA.

[...]

Referencing Madshi's information on stream types (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1223582&postcount=813), I would assume TSMUXER should set DTS-HD MA stream type to 134, and DTS-HD HR stream type to 133.
Agreed.

[ACrowley]

Yeah....when my Popcornhour cant detect/ passtrough DTS-HRA from TSmuxer M2TS Output ,i can see DTS HD MA in the playerinfo instead of correct DTS HRA.
So the stream type info is wrong. Now the Receiver is confused and cant detect the Stream.(unknown=no Sound)

Theres something wrong with the Streamtype ID...

[jj666]

Hallo Madshi, (and perhaps Neuron2).

Thank you for confirming the issue Madshi ;-)

I already received an email back from Roman and unfortunately, he does not have exact information on how to ascertain from the headers if a DTS-HD stream is HR or MA variant. As you are the guru of all things transport stream related, would you be able to share some information with Roman via email or PM so that he can make this fix?

Cheers,

-jj-

[roman76r]

jj666
ACrowley
Problem in that tsMuxer always writes stream_type=134. It is DTS-HD Master Audio code. Now tsMuxeR can't determine subversion (master audio or high res) of DTS-HD audio.
So I need to find correspond documentation about DTS-HD headers.
I would be grateful to all who may share this document.

P.S. I have following info:
32bit -> magic (must be 0x64582025)
8bit -> unknown (can be ignored)
2bit -> index (can be ignored)
1bit -> isBlownUpHeader

if (isBlownUpHeader)
{
12bit -> header size
20bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
} else {
8bit -> header size
16bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
}

This info is not enought for detecting subversion of HD audio.

[spida_singh]

@roman76r - does the new version fix issues with recognising 1080ivc1 streams (29.976)? I had problems with previous versions, i recall another member uploading a sample somewhere before. Let me know if you require a sample

regards

[madshi]

jj666
ACrowley
Problem in that tsMuxer always writes stream_type=134. It is DTS-HD Master Audio code. Now tsMuxeR can't determine subversion (master audio or high res) of DTS-HD audio.
So I need to find correspond documentation about DTS-HD headers.
I would be grateful to all who may share this document.

P.S. I have following info:
32bit -> magic (must be 0x64582025)
8bit -> unknown (can be ignored)
2bit -> index (can be ignored)
1bit -> isBlownUpHeader

if (isBlownUpHeader)
{
12bit -> header size
20bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
} else {
8bit -> header size
16bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
}

This info is not enought for detecting subversion of HD audio.
I'd suggest that you check out the source code of BDInfo. The author implemented DTS-HD Master Audio vs. High Resolution detection based on information he received from me. The source code of BDInfo is available here:

http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo?locale=us

I can also give you the info I gave the BDInfo author, but I don't have ready to use C++ code (I'm using Delphi), so you'd have to write your own code. And DTS-HD parsing is rather complicated...

(P.S: Don't know under which license the BDInfo source code is released.)

[roman76r]

madshi
I'd suggest that you check out the source code of BDInfo

This method does not fit me. bdInfo read stream_type field in transport stream. I must write this field, i.e. I need to detect stream type directly from DTS stream.

[kabelbrand]

the ASPECT RATIO in the tsMuxeR (incl 1.8.35) is incorrectly set to 4:3 instead of 16:9 on SD video streams.yes, I forgot to solve this bug. I'll include this bug fix to the next version.

Thank you for fixing this and thanks to mrr19121970 for pointing it out.

[madshi]

This method does not fit me. bdInfo read stream_type field in transport stream. I must write this field, i.e. I need to detect stream type directly from DTS stream.
BDInfo does also parse the DTS-HD bitstream to extract the exact number of channels etc. I know that for a fact cause I helped the BDInfo programmer implement that feature.

Anyway, if you're interested, just drop me a mail and I can send the DTS-HD information I have to you. It should help you finding out whether the stream is High Resolution or Master Audio. But I think you would make your life a lot easier if you checked out BDInfo's DTS-HD bitstream parsing code.

[sucker]

I increased the size of this fields. New GUI is here: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxerGUI_1.9.2(b).zip

thx alot ;)

[evdberg]

@roman,
Regarding DTS-HD:
32 bits DTS-HD extension header (0x64582025)
16 bits ?
1 bit type: 1 == MA, 0 == HR
3 bits ?
15 bits framesize

At least that was what I found looking around with a hex editor ...

[cullinan]

tsMuxerGUI_1.9.2(b).zip (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.2(b).zip)

[Cinema Squid]

(P.S: Don't know under which license the BDInfo source code is released.)
I did not explicitly attach a license to the BDInfo source, but it's probably technically under the GPL due to the license of the embedded ZedGraph component and some heavy inspiration from ffmpeg sources.

As far as I am concerned the non-graphing portions (i.e. everything not in the ZedGraph subdir) is under an unrestricted license, so if you find it helpful for your project then do as you please.

Like madshi said, the DTS-HD header parsing and a good chunk of the CLPI/MPLS parsing in BDInfo would have not been possible without his help, so I am most grateful.

[viperdqn]

jj666
P.S. I have following info:
32bit -> magic (must be 0x64582025)
8bit -> unknown (can be ignored)
2bit -> index (can be ignored)
1bit -> isBlownUpHeader

if (isBlownUpHeader)
{
12bit -> header size
20bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
} else {
8bit -> header size
16bit -> full DTS-HD data block size
}

This info is not enought for detecting subversion of HD audio.

Only DTS-HD MA bitstream should have XLL component, so the existence of synch code 0x41a29547 in the extension substream is the indicator.

[madshi]

I did not explicitly attach a license to the BDInfo source, but it's probably technically under the GPL due to the license of the embedded ZedGraph component and some heavy inspiration from ffmpeg sources.

As far as I am concerned the non-graphing portions (i.e. everything not in the ZedGraph subdir) is under an unrestricted license, so if you find it helpful for your project then do as you please.
That's nice, thanks for clarifying! Maybe you could add a short readme which explains the license? Thanks!

@roman,
Regarding DTS-HD:
32 bits DTS-HD extension header (0x64582025)
16 bits ?
1 bit type: 1 == MA, 0 == HR
3 bits ?
15 bits framesize

At least that was what I found looking around with a hex editor ...
That's what eac3to did in the beginning, too. Until I found out that this detection logic fails with many 7.1 tracks. The 1 bit field is not a 1 bit field at all. Proper detection of DTS-HD MA is only possible by at least parsing the first few DTS-HD fields correctly (which can even be variable size).

[madshi]

Only DTS-HD MA bitstream should have XLL component, so the existence of synch code 0x41a29547 in the extension substream is the indicator.
Correct. Checking something like "if ((ULONG*) &buffer[headerSize]) == 0x41a29547)" is the easiest way to detect DTS-HD MA.

[ACrowley]

tsMuxerGUI_1.9.2(b).zip (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.2(b).zip)

NICE!

New Version works with DTS HRA/DTS HD MA on Standalone/Popcornhour A110:) NMT A110 Player and Receiver both detect the Audio Stream and passtrough/decodes it fine.

Works also fine in my Sony BDP S350 Bluray Player

[ericd]

sorry guys but what s the difference between avchd disk and blue ray disc in tsmuxer 1.9.4 b??

thx a lot:helpful:

[mrr19121970]

sorry guys but what s the difference between avchd disk and blue ray disc in tsmuxer 1.9.4 b??

thx a lot:helpful:

start reading from page 153

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104&page=153

[mrr19121970]

I though the new version:

Version 1.9.1(b):

* Feature: Sony wave64 support

would make PCM2TSM redundant. Is this correct ?

[spida_singh]

sample to file which tsmuxer can not read (1080i VC1)- http://www.sendspace.com/file/vbbjjg

regards

[HALL9000]

The new version TSmuxer can not read video file from POLICE - CERTIFABLE ..... WTF ?

[mrr19121970]

The new version TSmuxer can not read video file from POLICE - CERTIFABLE ..... WTF ?

tsMuxeR cannot (currently) handle VC1 1080i video. Roman76r is aware and will fix ASAP.

[belcampo]

1st thanks for the excelent muxer, needed this tool badly for my PCH for playing over a nfs-share, ffmpeg created ts files often stuttered.
Now I was adding dvb-based teletext subtitles, demuxed with projectx, to srt format which play fine on the PCH, but NOT with mplayer under linux. I discovered that a file muxed from raw mpa mpv files, made by projectx, always starts with time code of about 600.
So the srt is 10min ahead of what is displayed. Playing the mpv with the srt is OK. The PCH doesn't seem to care. An older Windows-version of tsMuxeR began time-code with 4200 as far as I remember. Is there any reason for this, or am I doing something wrong?

[tebasuna51]

I though the new version:
Version 1.9.1(b):
* Feature: Sony wave64 support

would make PCM2TSM redundant. Is this correct ?

Yes, but still I can't load any w64 file in TsMuxeR 1.9.1.

I try with w64 files generated by eac3to, BeHappy, Soundout and Audacity. Always the same message:
"Can't detect stream type. File name: D:\x\test.w64"

[mrr19121970]

It didn't work for me either :(

[piratburner]

New error message in 1.9.2 :-( Its not in 1.8.24

The Bourne Trilogy (Box Set) Bourne Ultimatum

Some tracks not recognized!

In this m2ts file there are 3 VC1 tracks , one is 1920*1080p and the other 2 are 720*480p, could that be the problem in the latest version. like I say its not in the 1.8.24 version


And there are also 1 DTS-HD MA, 2 DTS and 1 AC3 track. And a few PGS stream

[idbirch2]

Edit your post to remove the blatant clue that you're not buying your BluRays. Sigh. :readrule:

[SeeMoreDigital]

Bummer..... Looks like you forgot: -

http://i40.tinypic.com/vg6jrm.png

:(

[bonanza]

Hi,

is Tsmuxer able to read the out the set delay to audiostreams and set them to m2ts ? or will it be out of sync ?

[roman76r]

New version of tsMuxeR: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.4(b).zip

Change list:
- fixed problem with interlace VC1 streams (stream was not detected).

SeeMoreDigital
I changed this in the last version 1.9.4

tebasuna51
Yes, but still I can't load any w64 file in TsMuxeR 1.9.1.
Yes, version 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 contain a small problem: file always should have WAV extension for standart Wave and for Wave 64. I fix it in version 1.9.4

[belcampo]

Last used linux versions tsMuxeR_static_1.8.35(b).tar.gz tsMuxeR_1.9.1(b).tar.gz can't mux for PCH anymore, am I the only one ?
Mediainfo says
video
Delay : 10mn 0s 0ms
audio
Delay : 10mn 0s 0ms
see former post of me.
Muxing same streams with MP4Box are played well on the PCH

[spida_singh]

New version of tsMuxeR: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.4(b).zip

Change list:
- fixed problem with interlace VC1 streams (stream was not detected).


Many thanks for this quick fix, streams now detected fine.

regards

[belcampo]

Version 1.8.8 creates a playable file for the PCH, although also wit weird delay info.
Both audio and video according to mediainfo have a delay of 1h 9mn 59s 0ms
Info on the PCH gives 21845fps for progressive material and 43690 for interlaced.

[ACrowley]

New version of tsMuxeR: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.4(b).zip

Change list:
- fixed problem with interlace VC1 streams (stream was not detected).

SeeMoreDigital
I changed this in the last version 1.9.4

tebasuna51

Yes, version 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 contain a small problem: file always should have WAV extension for standart Wave and for Wave 64. I fix it in version 1.9.4

No Notes about the fixed DTS HRA Problem in the changelog ?

[HALL9000]

tsMuxeR cannot (currently) handle VC1 1080i video. Roman76r is aware and will fix ASAP.

POLICE CERTIFIABLE - 1080p ?
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1708/police_certifiable.html

[idbirch2]

HighDefDigest specs aren't always accurate. Why don't you just try the new version and see if it works?

[mrr19121970]

Blu-Ray : While She Was Out : VC-1 1080i50 (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=27244)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1265946#post1265946

All Versions Upto V1.8.22:

"E:\TVIX\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR_1.8.22(b)\tsMuxeR.exe" "S:\BDMV\STREAM
\00000.m2ts"
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.22(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Track ID: 4113
Can't detect stream type
Track ID: 4352
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: deu
Track ID: 4353
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: eng
Track ID: 4608
Stream type: PGS
Stream ID: S_HDMV/PGS
Stream info: Presentation Graphic Stream #0
Stream lang: deu


BDInfo & eac3to correctly identify this as a VC1 1080i/25




http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1265580#post1265580

@roman76r

I don't know if you noticed, or anyone else reported this:

the ASPECT RATIO in the tsMuxeR (incl 1.8.35) is incorrectly set to 4:3 instead of 16:9 on SD video streams.

Additionally tsMuxeR does not identify VC-1 1080i video streams.



These are both now working from 1.9.4

[mrr19121970]

Yes, version 1.9.1 and 1.9.2 contain a small problem: file always should have WAV extension for standart Wave and for Wave 64. I fix it in version 1.9.4

It doesn't work in 1.9.4 either :(

[fifteen]

For some reason, joined m2ts files (only tested 264 +PCM) do not playback in latest VLC 1.0.0 git (http://people.videolan.org/~jb/build/20090303/), whereas files playback fine before being joined. Does this hint at a joining bug? or is it a playback bug?

[deank]

Roman, is it possible to add a log option to the muxopt line or/and to the CLI as a parameter?

For example:

--log="x:\full_path_to\log_file_name.log"

or/and

tsmuxer.exe meta_file destination -log "full_path_to\log_file.log"

TIA,
Dean

[zeropc]

anyone else has problems making an avchd with v1.9.4(b)?

i did it the old way. first export to blu-ray and then use avchdmanager to create an avchd.
my ps3 didn't recognize the avchd folder. so i tried again with v1.8.0(b) and it worked just fine.

[idbirch2]

Yes, I just found the same thing but I tried again using the "AVCHD" output option in TSMuxer and it works fine. I guess the two output formats have finally been implemented properly.

[Underground78]

Hello,

AAC tracks in mkv files are still not recognized in version 1.9.4, for example in this file :

General
Format : Matroska
File size : 180 Mio
Duration : 37mn 43s
Overall bit rate : 669 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-07-06 22:54:21
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

[...]

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : Yes
Format settings, PS : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 37mn 43s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48,0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Language : Français

[mrr19121970]

anyone else has problems making an avchd with v1.9.4(b)?

i did it the old way. first export to blu-ray and then use avchdmanager to create an avchd.
my ps3 didn't recognize the avchd folder. so i tried again with v1.8.0(b) and it worked just fine.


yes, I've heard that the --avchd in the meta doesn't work. leads to a

"There are no titles." message on the PS3.

[mrr19121970]

Roman, is it possible to add a log option to the muxopt line or/and to the CLI as a parameter?


just attach (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.4(b).zip) to the console and read it. that's what clown_bd does

you can see a c++ example in GUI source code.

[idbirch2]

yes, I've heard that the --avchd in the meta doesn't work. leads to aDid I select the invisible font in my last post? It's now the other way round, you have to use the AVCHD mode in 1.9.4. Bluray mode results in no titles.

[turbojet]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like blu-ray output doesn't work in some players (PS3) while avchd output doesn't work in other players (Panasonics).

If this is true what is the point in 2 types of output while blu-ray output worked fine for everything before?

[deank]

you can see a c++ example in GUI source code.

I'm not using any VB/C/C+/C# in my applications - that's why I asked for it. I'd like to keep multiAVCHD smaller (it is just 400-500kb now) and not dependent on anything but tsmuxer and other tools. No need for .net / other dlls... I can read output but I'd like to have final log for processing and error reporting because my apps call tsmuxer in ways that overcome its limits atp.

[rapscallion]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like blu-ray output doesn't work in some players (PS3) while avchd output doesn't work in other players (Panasonics).

If this is true what is the point in 2 types of output while blu-ray output worked fine for everything before?

+1, I've re read from pg153 and am confused now/still as to which output to use for best compatibilty/compliance (dvd9) in a standalone BD player (NOT a PS3).

P.S. This is all so new to me and is starting to make my head hurt ! I'll go sit in the corner now.

[rack04]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like blu-ray output doesn't work in some players (PS3) while avchd output doesn't work in other players (Panasonics).

If this is true what is the point in 2 types of output while blu-ray output worked fine for everything before?

I don't have any problems with avhd content on my Panasonic BD-35.

[roman76r]

mrr19121970
It doesn't work in 1.9.4 either
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/img/w64_test.PNG
I tested wave64 files created in Sound Forge. Can you send me your file?

Underground78
AAC tracks in mkv files are still not recognized in version 1.9.4, for example in this file
Yes, I does not fix it.

deank
Roman, is it possible to add a log option to the muxopt line or/and to the CLI as a parameter?
What is purpose of this feature? You can redirect tsMuxeR output to the file by means of pipes. For example (on win32):
tsMUxer test.meta test.ts 1> stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt

[idbirch2]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like blu-ray output doesn't work in some players (PS3) while avchd output doesn't work in other players (Panasonics).

If this is true what is the point in 2 types of output while blu-ray output worked fine for everything before?The reason for having 2 seperate output modes is that BluRay spec is not the same as AVCHD spec and some players will only play one or the other.

Previously, TSMuxer was outputting a bastardized-hybrid-mongrel version of BD/AVCHD hence it sort of working on most players. Now that it (hopefully) outputs both modes in accordance with spec, all players will be supported with the only challenge being figuring out which output mode your player likes.

[roman76r]

rack04
If this is true what is the point in 2 types of output while blu-ray output worked fine for everything before?
PS3 cheks media type. If you writes blu-ray content to the DVD media - PS3 does not recognize this disk. Nevertheless PS3 allows AVCHD content on DVD media. On the other hand some players such as Panasonic does not allows VC-1 video for AVCHD disk and requires blu-ray data type.

[Atak_Snajpera]

PS3 cheks media type. If you writes blu-ray content to the DVD media - PS3 does not recognize this disk. Nevertheless PS3 allows AVCHD content on DVD media. On the other hand some players such as Panasonic does not allows VC-1 video for AVCHD disk and requires blu-ray data type.
What happens if AVCHD structure is recorded on BD ? I have no blank BD discs to check on my PS3.

[setarip_old]

@rapscallion

Hi!I've re read from pg153 and am confused now/still as to which output to use for best compatibilty/compliance (dvd9) in a standalone BD player (NOT a PS3).If your specific brand and model number of standalone BluRay player recognizes hi-def files on standard DVD media (DVD5 and DVD9), use BluRay format...

[roman76r]

Atak_Snajpera
What happens if AVCHD structure is recorded on BD ?
It is works for PS3 - the disc is playing.

[jamos]

LARGE (over 4 gig.) w64 files get error while muxing to m2ts about 1/4 of the way through..locks up tsmuxer 1.9.4b.

small w64 files work fine.


SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.9.4 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1280:720p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 muxing fps not set. Get fps from stream.
LPCM bad frame detected. Resync stream.
LPCM bad frame detected. Resync stream.
LPCM bad frame detected. Resync stream.
LPCM bad frame detected. Resync stream.

[turbojet]

The reason for having 2 seperate output modes is that BluRay spec is not the same as AVCHD spec and some players will only play one or the other.

Previously, TSMuxer was outputting a bastardized-hybrid-mongrel version of BD/AVCHD hence it sort of working on most players. Now that it (hopefully) outputs both modes in accordance with spec, all players will be supported with the only challenge being figuring out which output mode your player likes.

The old bluray output (sort of?) works on all but 2 players that are sharps and well known. If sharp's now work with one of the modes I can see it as an improvement but I really doubt they will, as they don't even play retail BD5. AVCHD spec doesn't allow DTS, VC-1, MPEG2 but TSMuxer will output these when avchd is ticked.

roman76r: The panasonic VC-1 hack was figured out and was tested on other players to be working just fine. Why not just apply that hack when VC-1 is in the output and bluray disk is selected as output instead of having these 2 output options?

setarip_old: bluray disk used to be what you use and it never failed as long as it wasn't vc-1 played on a panasonic. Now as you can see it's a guessing game to figure out what works and what doesn't on specific players. I guess what's needed again unless tsmuxer reverts to a single always working output method we'll need another thorough test of what players work for each output method.

[jamos]

feature request:

ability to run tsmuxer in low priority mode for windows. it would be nice to run in background without hogging resources.


thanks

[coolalibaba]

feature request:

ability to run tsmuxer in low priority mode for windows. it would be nice to run in background without hogging resources.


thanks

I think you can change the priority in the task manager? hehe

[jamos]

I think you can change the priority in the task manager? hehe

thats what i do now..heh

[rapscallion]

@rapscallion

Hi!If your specific brand and model number of standalone BluRay player recognizes hi-def files on standard DVD media (DVD5 and DVD9), use BluRay format...
Hi Setarip !

Yes, my Pioneer 51 recognizes the discs I recorded in prev ver of tsmuxer, that only had blu-ray output option, so I'll continue to use that output/format.

But, my Samsung 1200 did not. So, just out of curiousity, I'll try a small test file with both outputs (1.9.4) and see if the Sammy can play one of them now.

[turbojet]

Hi Setarip !

Yes, my Pioneer 51 recognizes the discs I recorded in prev ver of tsmuxer, that only had blu-ray output option, so I'll continue to use that output/format.

But, my Samsung 1200 did not. So, just out of curiousity, I'll try a small test file with both outputs (1.9.4) and see if the Sammy can play one of them now.

With newer samsung firmwares/players you have to remove the AUXDATA folder for them to play. I'm not sure it's the same on Samsung 1200 but worth a try.

Good luck on your tests with latest tsmuxer using both outputs on both of those players. Please report back as we have to start fresh with a list of players that each output supports.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Please report back as we have to start fresh with a list of players that each output supports.
This would be a good idea.

[mrr19121970]

mrr19121970
I tested wave64 files created in Sound Forge. Can you send me your file?


I PMed you the file link

Did I select the invisible font in my last post? It's now the other way round, you have to use the AVCHD mode in 1.9.4. Bluray mode results in no titles.

Sorry, that was my bug in Clown_BD 0.42b

I'm not using any VB/C/C+/C# in my applications - that's why I asked for it. I'd like to keep multiAVCHD smaller (it is just 400-500kb now) and not dependent on anything but tsmuxer and other tools. No need for .net / other dlls... I can read output but I'd like to have final log for processing and error reporting because my apps call tsmuxer in ways that overcome its limits atp.

you can 'run':

%comspec% /c tsmuxer.exe >log.txt

but the progress % is (or at least was in the past) written to every line.

[turbojet]

This would be a good idea.

In the long run I hope tsmuxer goes back to what was working fine and saves testers all the grief.

[kaid]

Totally awesome that Roman updated the Linux-Version to the most current one, finally no more BD mux issues, thanks so much! The Mac-Version is a very very pleasant surprise, too - But why Intel-only? That's like making it only run on Core or Phenom on Windows, you wouldn't shut out Millions of P4 or Athlon-owners, would you? Millions of Mac-Users still have very capable Dual or even Quad G5 PPC-Machines!... I (and many others) would be so glad if you also made it PPC-compatible! I'd be more than happy to test it if you did! ;-)

[shon3i]

On the other hand some players such as Panasonic does not allows VC-1 video for AVCHD disk and requires blu-ray data type. Well VC-1 in AVCHD is not allowed, only AVC, that why called AVCHD :)

[deank]

deank

What is purpose of this feature? You can redirect tsMuxeR output to the file by means of pipes. For example (on win32):
tsMUxer test.meta test.ts 1> stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt

No I can't use redirections or stdout/in. I'm restricted to API call to CreateProcessA from kernel32.dll and it allows execution of .exe + parameters. So if you decide to add a log file - it will help me.

[turbojet]

Actually I was wrong in saying that the VC-1 for Panasonic hack has been tested on other players to play, it doesn't look like it has at least looking at posts and it is basically what new bluray output produces. This is the only scenario I know of that this function has use for. Old tsmuxer create blu-ray disk has been thoroughly tested on BDR's via RipBot264.

Old create blu-ray disk function seems to be almost identical to new avchd function except clpi/mpls headers are different, 200 in old, 100 in new. Is there anything else changed and could this cause problems?

It would be interesting to see if vc-1 can play on panasonic's using the new avchd output and if everything else plays ok with it. Would reverting back to old create blu-ray disk, many programs rely on --blu-ray and using 100 headers on clpi/mpls while getting rid of --avchd be tsmuxer's answer roman76r?

[mrr19121970]

No I can't use redirections or stdout/in. I'm restricted to API call to CreateProcessA from kernel32.dll and it allows execution of .exe + parameters. So if you decide to add a log file - it will help me.

execution of .exe = %comspec%
parameters = /c tsmuxer.exe meta.meta >log.txt

I'm sure this will work

[deank]

:thanks: :D

I thought I tried this before and it never worked. So I replaced the the exe with cmd.exe and it is okay now! Thanks again.

[Rodger]

Let me say/report it clear again.

My Samsung BD-P1400 almost plays ANYTHING I throw into it.
No matter if I choose AVCHD or Blu-Ray.

My Panasonic DMP-BD30 is bit more choosy. But still as far as I tested. No problem here with AVCHD or Blu-Ray setting in tsmuxer.


BUT here comes the bitch of all bitches when it comes to this theme.

The Samsung BD-P2500 !!!
Aspect Ratio? Be careful when you work on that one.
I´ve had small "white lines" on my TV (ca. 1 inch on a 32" TV) when the video was 1920x1080!!! But you can make that work.

What you absolutely can´t get to work, is the unused directories.
This Samsung (European Version) does absolutely refuse to play ANYTHING, if I don´t remove the unsued dirs.
Here is a screenshot, of what does work.
http://www.bilder-space.de/thumb/10.04qWSdJRd57N780KT.jpg (http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=10.04qWSdJRd57N780KT.jpg)

PLEASE change this in the AVCHD "Mode" of tsmuxer.

[rapscallion]

With newer samsung firmwares/players you have to remove the AUXDATA folder for them to play. I'm not sure it's the same on Samsung 1200 but worth a try.

Good luck on your tests with latest tsmuxer using both outputs on both of those players. Please report back as we have to start fresh with a list of players that each output supports.

Ok, here are the results, using DVD5 RW, 30 min movie clip , 1280*720 :

Samsung 1200 - Will not play discs using either Blu-ray or AVCHD output mode. (btw, the owner's manual does NOT list AVCHD as a format it will play) Also will not play either mode if "aux" dir is removed or using basic structure, per Roger's post above.

Pioneer BDP-51fd : Plays both output modes equally well and player display indicates "avchd" for both.

Samsung 1400 : Before I sold it last week, using prev ver of tsmuxer w/o avchd output option, played fine in blu-ray mode.

[turbojet]

Samsung 1200 - Will not play discs using either Blu-ray or AVCHD output mode. (btw, the owner's manual does NOT list AVCHD as a format it will play) Also will not play either mode if "aux" dir is removed or using basic structure, per Roger's post above.

I found some info that the latest 2.3 firmware disables AVCHD playback. Others have been having success with previous firmwares though, I don't know if they are deleting AUXDATA directory or not. Deleting all but CLIPINF, PLAYLIST and STREAM is another common hack.

Thanks for the testing.

I have a good feeling AVCHD output in 1.9.x versions is technically more accurate then 1.8.34 and older versions of bluray disk output. But I don't know if it will make any playability difference.

[rapscallion]

I found some info that the latest 2.3 firmware disables AVCHD playback. Others have been having success with previous firmwares though, I don't know if they are deleting AUXDATA directory or not. Deleting all but CLIPINF, PLAYLIST and STREAM is another common hack.

Thanks for the testing.

I have a good feeling AVCHD output in 1.9.x versions is technically more accurate then 1.8.34 and older versions of bluray disk output. But I don't know if it will make any playability difference.
I have been following the 1200 thread in the AVS forum and just did a search for avchd. You're right, SS removed the "feature" in FW 2.3 and I wasn't trying that format then. There was playabilty with auxdata dir in place, I believe.

Current FW is 2.5, which I have. They claim avchd is a unsupported format on this model so they probably won't bring it back. (They have enough trouble with playback on supported formats, believe me ) I could roll back the FW, but that would cause more problems with BD discs.

I tried the "common hack" and that doesn't work either. Not an issue as I don't use this player for avchd PB.

For my Pio 51, I'll probably stay with the the Blu-ray output mode unless someone finds a significant difference.

Edit : I imagine that the "Blu-ray" tab for chapters should now be renamed "Blu-ray/AVCHD" in order to avoid confusion.

[herrde]

Hi everybody,

just did a search in this thread but wasn't able to find the answer...

I am using the latest build of mkvtoolnix, especially the new header editor and the chapter editor of mkvmerge. But whenever I change a MKV file by using the header editor or the chapter editor, tsmuxer is unable to load the changed MKV file. It always stops with a "Matroska Parse Error".

I have talked to the author of mkvtoolnix and he explained me the reason. Both the chapter and the header editor of mkvmerge are writing the header information at the END of the file and not at the beginning where tsmuxer is obviously expecting it. But this method is still compliant to the official Matroska specifications because the newly written header information is still indexed via the "meta seek" elements so they can be found easily.

But tsmuxer is obviously NOT able to find them if they are not at the beginning of the file!

This is obviously a huge problem because so many great applications use tsmuxer as their muxing tool (multiAVCHD etc.). And all these applications are unable to do their work if a MKV file has been edited with the chapter editor or the header editor of mkvmerge.

So is there a work-around to this problem? I hope the next version of tsmuxer will include the ability to scan the header information even if it's placed at the end of the MKV. If this is allowed by the MKV specifications, then tsmuxer should really be able to process these files...

All the best,

Gero

[roman76r]

herrde
Can you send me example of such file?

[roman76r]

mrr19121970
jamos
I tried to make 5Gb wave64 (w64) file. Mux passed without errors, file playing from begin to the end. Possible you tested PCM files without headers instead w64 files?

Rodger
I am afraid to remove the empty folder becouse the problems may appear on the other players. I can add special option if it necessary


herrde
Also, please try version 1.9.x. Mkv chapters must recognized and imported in this versions. Possible it is solve your problem.

New version of tsMuxeR is available: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.5(b).zip

Change list:
- pic_order_cnt_type 2 now supported for H.264 streams. Previus versions shows error message: "SPS picture order 2 not supported". H.264 video stream with this option generate many HD camcorder.

[Rodger]

Oh YES PLEASE :D

But as much as I can tell....all other players tested have no problem with "the missing" folders, but the BD-P2500 with the existance of the folders.

You may add that option somewhat hidden if you have worries.
Let´s say as an option in the general tab to activate if needed.
It would change the way the AVCHD-Choice in the input tab works.

This way no one interested would be confronted directly with that setting. That should be okay. What do you think roman?

[mrr19121970]

I'd say it's easier for you to delete them just before you burn.

[turbojet]

rapscallion: If you are looking for a problem 1.8.35+ blu-ray output doesn't work on PS3's and potentially other players.

There are a few players that need AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR, META directories with older tsmuxer bluray output, unfortunately I can't remember which, I'm thinking panasonic or sony. But maybe the changed mpls/clpi files have fixed that with avchd output. Technically these folders don't exist in avchd.

[jamos]

jamos
I tried to make 5Gb wave64 (w64) file. Mux passed without errors, file playing from begin to the end. Possible you tested PCM files without headers instead w64 files?

Must be a bug with eac3to then as that is where the file was created from and I used w64 as the output. it is ok though for me as I am waiting on my popcorn hour a110 to arrive as it outputs bitstream through the hdmi so I will no longer need to convert audio for hd m2ts files..

could you test a 8 channel w64 file, roman and make sure its not that..

thanks!

[Atak_Snajpera]

There are a few players that need AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR, META directories with older tsmuxer bluray output, unfortunately I can't remember which, I'm thinking panasonic or sony. But maybe the changed mpls/clpi files have fixed that with avchd output. Technically these folders don't exist in avchd.

turbojet is right. Those folders are not available in AVCHD structure and therefore it should be removed.
http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp

[turbojet]

I think it should only be a savable option to delete those folders.

Then again I don't think 2 different outputs that vary little, one that breaks things (PS3 playback) should exist. As far as I know --blu-ray was changed and --avchd added only to solve the VC1 on panasonic issue and that could easily be done automatically with 'if VC-1 headers = 0200 and don't signal IDEX else headers = 0100'

So my opinion means little

[jj666]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to create a proper thread list of players versus their requirements/compatibilities and the various workarounds that exist?

It must be very hard for Roman to judge what is correct at the moment, and asking him to fix something that breaks another device playback is hardly a way forward overall.

Cheers,

-jj-

[turbojet]

This thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674) already exists.

This refers only to bluray output in tsmuxer versions prior to 1.8.35 though, newer versions are untested.

No one asked for bluray output (which 100's of guides and numerous software relies on) to change so it breaks playback but that's what we have now.

[SeeMoreDigital]

turbojet is right. Those folders are not available in AVCHD structure and therefore it should be removed.
http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jspAgreed..... And as your link suggests, the file structure that TSmuxer generates for AVCHD cards will have to change too...

I have two Panasonic devices (a TV and Blu-ray player) that include AVCHD SD card slot/readers. And sadly neither device is able to play AVCHD muxes generated by TSmuxer :(

To confirm.... The image below shows the "minimum" file structure required for a "fully working" AVCHD file from a Panasonic camcorder: -

http://i44.tinypic.com/2hg68fp.png


Cheers

[turbojet]

I agree that one of the outputs would make a lot more sense if it was output for a USB device but as we have it now if you own a PS3 avchd is the only output that works.
It would be nice if they fixed by reverting to old style bluray output before they break avchd output.

[Atak_Snajpera]

I have two Panasonic devices (a TV and Blu-ray player) that include AVCHD SD card slot/readers. And sadly neither device is able to play AVCHD muxes generated by TSmuxer
Does it mean that correct AVCHD structure must start with PRIVATE folder???

It would be nice if they fixed by reverting to old style bluray output before they break avchd output.
I don't mind if we have two structures (blu-ray and avchd) as long as it fully compatible with spec. AVCHD camcorders use PRIVATE -> AVCHD directory ...

[turbojet]

Does it mean that correct AVCHD structure must start with PRIVATE folder???

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1266479#post1266479

I don't mind if we have two structures (blu-ray and avchd) as long as it fully compatible with spec. AVCHD camcorders use PRIVATE -> AVCHD directory ...

I don't mind if there's two output formats either, but they should keep bluray as it's been over the past 2 years, except fix the clpi/mpls headers and avchd should be geared towards usb devices. I think playability on the most players should be the priority. If it was only about spec DTS, DTS-HD, TrueHD and VC1 wouldn't be allowed in AVCHD so PS3 users couldn't have these.

If people were starting to replace tsmuxer.exe in RipBot264 like they are in BD-Rebuilder you'd have a ton of reports saying it doesn't work on PS3 anymore because --bluray and PS3 = no work. Wouldn't that be fun?
These are only 2 of 100's of things that are affected by tsmuxer's change.

[fifteen]

Does it mean that correct AVCHD structure must start with PRIVATE folder???

At least seems so for solid state for Panasonic.

Read :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Overview

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Compatibility_with_Blu-ray_Disc_players

[Atak_Snajpera]

If people were starting to replace tsmuxer.exe in RipBot264 like they are in BD-Rebuilder you'd have a ton of reports saying it doesn't work on PS3 anymore because --bluray and PS3 = no work. Wouldn't that be fun?
Therefore next version will use AVCHD structure (it works on DVD and BD. Blu-ray works only on BD). I will also remove empty folders which do not belong to AVCHD structure. Then We wait with fingers crossed :)

[roman76r]

I removed the useless folders in AVCHD mode:

BDMV/AUXDATA
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/META
CERTIFICATE
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The new version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b).zip

[deank]

Just a note:

The output with --blu-ray option in tsmuxer versions prior to 1.9.x was NOT BLU-RAY, but AVCHD. Mixed versions in headers (0100 or 0200) does not change anything.

PS3 and many other players won't like the new --blu-ray on DVD because is really is blu-ray, but not AVCHD what they'd play from DVD.

IMO --blu-ray option now works 100% and does what it has to do if user burns the content on BD disc.

AVCHD option works too and is the same as --blu-ray in older versions.

About folders: bluray should output ALL folders, starting with BDMV and CERFITICATE. avchd should output AVCHD as root and BDMV inside it (+ CLIPINF/BACKUP/PLAYLIST) - period.

Then with avchd if user decides to copy the structure to SD he should use the PRIVATE, if to DVD - should use only the contents of AVCHD folder, and if going for USB/MS - leave it as it is.

I think the problem for all is the misguidance with --blu-ray in earlier versions. Since day one tsmuxer should've used --avchd and since 1.9.x --blu-ray.

@SeeMoreDigital: I have two Panasonic devices (a TV and Blu-ray player) that include AVCHD SD card slot/readers. And sadly neither device is able to play AVCHD muxes generated by TSmuxer

To confirm.... The image below shows the "minimum" file structure required for a "fully working" AVCHD file from a Panasonic camcorder: -

It is not the folder structure that makes it fully-working - it is the contents of index.bdmv + *.clpi *.mpls files.

In brief: people should think of what media they'll use with the output of the new tsmuxer. If using DVD/SD/MS/USB - always use --avchd mode. If using Blu-Ray Discs (BD-R/RE) - always use --blu-ray mode. It is simple as that.

It doesn't matter what player you will be using. Just follow this rule. (of course SD playback for Panasonic TV/BD players is different matter).

@turbojet: If people were starting to replace tsmuxer.exe in RipBot264 like they are in BD-Rebuilder you'd have a ton of reports saying it doesn't work on PS3 anymore because --bluray and PS3 = no work. Wouldn't that be fun?

New versions of tsmuxer affect only tools which use tsmuxer's index.bdmv (unlike multiAVCHD).


And I think we're all starting repeating ourselves in other threads.

[rapscallion]

rapscallion: If you are looking for a problem 1.8.35+ blu-ray output doesn't work on PS3's and potentially other players.

There are a few players that need AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR, META directories with older tsmuxer bluray output, unfortunately I can't remember which, I'm thinking panasonic or sony. But maybe the changed mpls/clpi files have fixed that with avchd output. Technically these folders don't exist in avchd.

Well, at the moment, my Pioneer 51 plays both outputs.
With 1.9.6b, per Dean's post, I'll use avchd out, with dvd9 media. (but, maybe add the "Certficate" dir :))

The SS 1200 isn't an issue, because it's our bedroom player, and I don't plan on using it at all, for avchd playback.
I only tested it out of curiousity.

[turbojet]

I removed the useless folders in AVCHD mode:

BDMV/AUXDATA
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/META
CERTIFICATE
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The new version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b).zip

Now to fix the players that do need these folders?

What exactly is the goal of the new bluray mode?

I never saw a report outside of VC1 on panasonic players that didn't play with the old 100 headers and I've already given a simpler (for the enduser) workaround for the VC1 issue.

[turbojet]

Just a note:

The output with --blu-ray option in tsmuxer versions prior to 1.9.x was NOT BLU-RAY, but AVCHD. Mixed versions in headers (0100 or 0200) does not change anything.

We can debate this forever, in the consumer electronics world bluray comes on optical media, avchd comes on magnetic and solid state drives. Technically you may be right though.

PS3 and many other players won't like the new --blu-ray on DVD because is really is blu-ray, but not AVCHD what they'd play from DVD.

IMO --blu-ray option now works 100% and does what it has to do if user burns the content on BD disc.

new --bluray only helps panasonic players with VC-1 and hurts in other places, it doesn't matter if its burned to DVDR or BDR

AVCHD option works too and is the same as --blu-ray in older versions.

About folders: bluray should output ALL folders, starting with BDMV and CERFITICATE. avchd should output AVCHD as root and BDMV inside it (+ CLIPINF/BACKUP/PLAYLIST) - period.

Then with avchd if user decides to copy the structure to SD he should use the PRIVATE, if to DVD - should use only the contents of AVCHD folder, and if going for USB/MS - leave it as it is.

Perhaps it should but you have to realize this will break a lot of things that relied on the BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders tsmuxer used to output in output directory.

I think the problem for all is the misguidance with --blu-ray in earlier versions. Since day one tsmuxer should've used --avchd and since 1.9.x --blu-ray.

This could be a mistake for years but instead of changing a working command every program I can think of adds commands in order to do what they want to do. Like lame changed to -V function but they still kept --preset intact. Imagine if x264 was to change --crf to fastest possible settings ever while adding --pass 0 to replace the current crf, this is a lot like what tsmuxer has just done.

In brief: people should think of what media they'll use with the output of the new tsmuxer. If using DVD/SD/MS/USB - always use --avchd mode. If using Blu-Ray Discs (BD-R/RE) - always use --blu-ray mode. It is simple as that.

This isn't exactly true as I've pointed out numerous times that VC-1 on panasonic needs bluray output burning on both DVD and BD while NO ONE else does and looking at bug reports already, shouldn't use it. Come to think of it if I remember correctly from first BD-RB versions that used most of the original bdmv files for movie only mode, PS3 can't use bluray for movie only on a BDR either but this may also have been a BD-RB issue.

New versions of tsmuxer affect only tools which use tsmuxer's index.bdmv (unlike multiAVCHD).

Which is everything but multiAVCHD that uses tsmuxer, you have to also consider all the guides.

[rack04]

Now to fix the players that do need these folders?

Which players are you referring to?

[turbojet]

Which players are you referring to?

I can't remember exactly but I believe it was some panasonics or sony, it was a name brand and I will try to search for it in this forum somehow.

[deank]

We can debate this forever, in the consumer electronics world bluray comes on optical media, avchd comes on magnetic and solid state drives. Technically you may be right though.

There should be nothing to debate. AVCHD is also availabe on optical media. And you can think of it as EXTENDED (yet codec restricted) format of Blu-ray specs-wise.


new --bluray only helps panasonic players with VC-1 and hurts in other places, it doesn't matter if its burned to DVDR or BDR


That's not true. All players should handle --blu-ray output of tsmuxer if written to BD disc (including PS3). It will break most if user uses DVD disc. Panasonic's needed to see the disc as BDMV to play VC-1 and the hack was simply using a BD index.bdmv (without the AVCHD IDEX segment) and I'm quite sure this hack was needed ONLY if using DVD, but not a real BD-R/RE disc.


... you have to realize this will break a lot of things that relied on the BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders tsmuxer used to output in output directory.

True, only if you're using DVD media and certain players.


This could be a mistake for years but instead of changing a working command every program I can think of adds commands in order to do what they want to do. Like lame changed to -V function but they still kept --preset intact. Imagine if x264 was to change --crf to fastest possible settings ever while adding --pass 0 to replace the current crf, this is a lot like what tsmuxer has just done.

I agree.

[turbojet]

Denon 3800 reported not playing without empty directories (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1242263#post1242263)

[deank]

You should ask jwgallardo if he can see AVCHD support anywhere in his denon user manual - a lot of players do not support AVCHD. There are players as his that would play only BD structures (no matter the media - just like Sony 3xx, which will play everything - no matter the DVD/BD media) but not AVCHD.

So probably I stand to correct myself and add that user should know what his player is capable of and consider the media he's using. I doubt that ANYONE has problems when using BD-R/RE discs. And you're referring to BD-RB output, which is totally different than using tsmuxer alone, so it doesn't count. Full-movie is working for him (which is BD mode) and movie-only is also working for him when folders are present (player going to BD mode because of folders - simply because doesn't support AVCHD mode to act differently).

[mrr19121970]

I removed the useless folders in AVCHD mode:

BDMV/AUXDATA
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/META
CERTIFICATE
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The new version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b).zip

whilst you are on the subject I believe that the --blu-ray output should also contain a BACKUP/JAR folder

[turbojet]

You should ask jwgallardo if he can see AVCHD support anywhere in his denon user manual - a lot of players do not support AVCHD. There are players as his that would play only BD structures (no matter the media - just like Sony 3xx) but not AVCHD.

Both of them have been reported playing old bluray output.

My point is that these 2 output modes are a guessing game for at least 3 players now. While the old bluray worked fine but depending on the player required a hack that could be solved with options in tsmuxer.

Before you could suggest 'output to bluray and remove a directory.'

That's been turned into 'try AVCHD first and remove the directory if that doesn't work try bluray and remove directory, if neither work go back and use the old versions that have a proven method to work'.

I would think the point of a programs progression was to make things easier, not more complex.

Basically anyone that's been helping people play things, like myself, has got a much much tougher job if this tsmuxer starts getting used and it's all just to get VC-1 playback on a panasonic. In fact from a playability standpoint bluray disk output would be more accurately named 'VC-1 for panasonic' and that's all it's good for.

My suggestion on the whole thing is:
- Revert --bluray back to how it was using 0100 headers with IDEX and if VC-1 is output don't use IDEX, well this should really be tested, but at the least have an option such as 'Allow VC-1 on Panasonic players' to set up the bdmv like bluray currently does. another welcome option would be to remove just AUXDATA folder or remove all empty directories. These options hopefully would be saved and stored in registry or ini.
- Use the current --avchd but have the gui display 'AVCHD for USB' which outputs in AVCHD/BDMV structure, has 8.3 file names and splits files at 4 GB that is restricted to H.264, AC3, LPCM and 24 MB/s bitrate.

All the help, guides, tools would still be accurate.
People wanting USB media playback would get it out of the box.

[turbojet]

whilst you are on the subject I believe that the --blu-ray output should also contain a BACKUP/JAR folder

Looking at some retail BD's this seems to only exist in BACKUP if it uses BD-J which it contains files then. Other times it may exist but also may not exist in root directory.

TSMuxer doesn't use BD-J.

[deank]

Before you could suggest 'output to bluray and remove a directory.'

That's been turned into 'try AVCHD first and remove the directory if that doesn't work try bluray and remove directory, if neither work go back and use the old versions that have a proven method to work'.

Yes, because now --avchd is what --blu-ray used to be.

I would think the point of a programs progression was to make things easier, not more complex.

It makes things easier (at least for me) because I now know that tsmuxer produces what it is asked to do - AVCHD or BLU-RAY output.

If people don't know what their players are capable of - that's another issue.

And you always ignore my notes that NO PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE PROBLEMS if you burn the new --blu-ray output to BLU-RAY RECORDABLE/REWRITABLE DISC. I hope it means something for you and all who read.

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files - and there is the problem. You can never find the perfect solution, because NO manufacturer will say/guarantee something like that... bluray on dvd - no one.

Basically anyone that's been helping people play things, like myself, has got a much much tougher job if this tsmuxer starts getting used and it's all for nothing really.

Yes, because all changes per FIRMWARE-UPDATE basis or PLAYER-MODEL (even with the same brand).

Another thing that causes confusion is that people wrongly identify AVCHD as "Movie-Only" and do not understand that BD and AVCHD differ in other completely irrelevant to this thread things. BD-RB used Movie-only with the old tsmuxer --blu-ray output (now --avchd) and this may very well be the reason.

[turbojet]

Yes, because now --avchd is what --blu-ray used to be.

Originally Posted by roman76r
I removed the useless folders in AVCHD mode:

BDMV/AUXDATA
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/META
CERTIFICATE
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The new version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b).zip

really?

It makes things easier (at least for me) because I now know that tsmuxer produces what it is asked to do - AVCHD or BLU-RAY output.

If people don't know what their players are capable of - that's another issue.

It will really be easy for people that are relying on guides and help that say bluray all over the place but yet they have to come back and report that bluray isn't working.

And you always ignore my notes that NO PLAYERS SHOULD HAVE PROBLEMS if you burn the new --blu-ray output to BLU-RAY RECORDABLE/REWRITABLE DISC. I hope it means something for you and all who read.

I've never ignored this and I've said myself that it should. However there's a big difference between should and does, the does is yet to be determined. But old --bluray does play on everything ever tested burned on a BDR. New --bluray is different then old --bluray so there's always a possibility of that does changing to a does not. Splitting a working function with 2 completely untested methods makes no sense to me.

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files - and there is the problem. You can never find the perfect solution, because NO manufacturer will say/guarantee something like that... bluray on dvd - no one.

Um isn't that a goal on this forum?
Now instead of figuring out tricks we have to spend a bunch of time figuring out which tsmuxer output we should use for each individual player. Which makes the past 2 years of research irrelevant now.

Yes, because all changes per FIRMWARE-UPDATE basis or PLAYER-MODEL (even with the same brand).

'Do i update the firmware or keep the old trusty one'
'Do I update TSMuxer or use the old trusty one'
'If I update TSMuxer do I use avchd or bluray'

TSMuxer is just adding more fuel to the complexity fire.

edit: To avoid all the BD/AVCHD confusion why not have these 3 outputs
SD/MMC output: /PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only. split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
USB/MS output: /AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only, split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
DVD/BD output: /BDMV structure, no 8.3, allow all BD audio/video formats, no split files, no directories deleted

all use bdmv's with IDEX and add some options: 8.3 filename, delete AUXDATA, delete empty directories, split at 4 GB, VC-1 compatibility fix (removes IDEX)

[deank]

Everyone is trying to TRICK their players with DVD discs, containing BLURAY files


Um isn't that a goal on this forum?
Now instead of figuring out tricks we have to spend a bunch of time figuring out which tsmuxer output we should use for each individual player.

I beg to differ - for me tsmuxer is the one and only MUXER application and I never considered its output as final authoring solution. It's ability to create .clpi and .mpls files is the most important thing after the ability to demux/mux various input. It is a base to do almost everything.

I think we both said enough and hope it is useful for all. I'll post in another thread about avchd and blu-ray some day next week. Hope we'll find a way to make things work for most of us.

Also I think we should create a thread which starts with SAMPLE structures for people to test with and then add their players/models to AVCHD/Blu-Ray compatibility list.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Also I think we should create a thread which starts with SAMPLE structures for people to test with and then add their players/models to AVCHD/Blu-Ray compatibility list.
Good idea!

[turbojet]

It's already been in the works for months here and years in the avsforums but new TSMuxer has made that irrelevant. I've been one of the main contributors of the thread here and I'm rather angry all that work may as well turn to dust soon if tsmuxer continues this way.

[deank]

To avoid all the BD/AVCHD confusion why not have these 3 outputs
SD/MMC output: /PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only. split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
USB/MS output: /AVCHD/BDMV structure 8.3 filenames, AVC, AC3, LPCM only, split files at 4 GB, empty directories deleted
DVD/BD output: /BDMV structure, no 8.3, allow all BD audio/video formats, no split files, no directories deleted


I was thinking about it but then the confusion will become bigger, because SD/MMC/MS/USB output is compatible ONLY with Playstation 3. And of course PS3 has no problems playing DTS or VC-1 even from SD card from within an AVCHD folder.

You shouldn't get angry because we're getting close to what standards are - it should make things easier and you can compile the information now in less than a month, instead of months.

[turbojet]

I was thinking about it but then the confusion will become bigger, because SD/MMC/MS/USB output is compatible ONLY with Playstation 3. And of course PS3 has no problems playing DTS or VC-1 even from SD card from within an AVCHD folder.

Only PS3?

There are plenty of players that have support for playback of AVCHD through USB. I don't think it's well tested but it would be an accomplishment on tsmuxer's part to output it properly.

I'm angry because a lot of my helpful statements which I've spent hours upon hours on cannot be relied on anymore and instead I have to tell them something completely different like you need to add AUXDATA, META directories because tsmuxer enforced the deletion of these upon you. I don't mind the deletion of the directories as an option but it sucks that it's forced.

I really don't care about standards they obviously can't be relied upon anyways. But I do care about software that works and gives me workable output while being easy to use with a minimal amount of guess work.

[deank]

Only PS3?

There are plenty of players that have support for playback of AVCHD through USB.

I doubt they'll support tsmuxer's output via usb, because most would expect USB connection to AVCHD camera and the case then is like the SD playback for Panasonic TVs/BDPs - of course I may be wrong.


I'm angry because a lot of my helpful statements which I've spent hours upon hours on cannot be relied on anymore and instead I have to tell them something completely different...

I concur, and I think roman should've waited with the removal of these folders. 100 users - 100 opinions/requests - you can't satisfy all at once.

I really don't care about standards they obviously can't be relied upon anyways. But I do care about software that works and gives me workable output while being easy to use with a minimal amount of guess work.

You've spent much more already :) It will be helpful not for people like you who spent hundreds of hours, but those who first encountered avchd and bd.

[turbojet]

I doubt they'll support tsmuxer's output via usb, because most would expect USB connection to AVCHD camera and the case then is like the SD playback for Panasonic TVs/BDPs - of course I may be wrong.

It could be at first but it's something to work on.

I concur, and I think roman should've waited with the removal of these folders. 100 users - 100 opinions/requests - you can't satisfy all at once.

What's even more disappointing is that he very well could have used material that I contributed to the research yet did the opposite of my opinion.

You've spent much more already :) It will be helpful not for people like you who spent hundreds of hours, but those who first encountered avchd and bd.

I have and I think I'll be spending more and more time answering questions of what is bluray output and what is avchd output, I don't have the patience for it.

From what I know the most reasonable answer I can give is 'forget bluray output its untested and has no known benefit over avchd except some standards bs. Use avchd and try it, if it doesn't work add these directories: AUXDATA/BDJO/META. If it doesn't work I have no answer'

Quite a longwinded answer to something that has gotten to be fairly simple.

[SeeMoreDigital]

The ability to create compliant AVCHD files, for transferring onto SD cards would be a superb addition to TSmuxer.....

Essentially, a compliant AVCHD cards file structure looks quite different to a Blu-ray disc's file structure. The files "extensions" are different too. There are no "menus" either.

[deank]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.That great to hear Dean :)

[herrde]

herrde
Can you send me example of such file?

Just e-mailed you an example file to info@smartlabs.tv !

Best,

Gero

[Rodger]

It is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE how someone can discuss a program to become compliant to specifications.

What on earth are you thinking? Just imagine that would happen to every program existing?

It can´t be true you are sugguesting what´s done is done and we´ll have to live with an error made before forever.

I don´t know where this is leaving to but I will follow it as I know it is the only way because it is true.

First comes the specification, second comes the workaround for players which I will have to find out (again) if Samsung/Panasonic didn´t program the firmware of my players correctly. But I shouldn´t have any problems since it is stated they play AVCHD.

Again...there absolutely can´t be anything wrong with tsmuxer becoming compliant to AVCHD specifications.
That has to kill and will kill lots of lots of workarounds because the players will get to play what they are told to. AVCHD !!!

If they don´t NOW you have something in the hand to discuss when contacting the manuafturer and you´ll have a REALIABLE basis to get to workarounds.

[Rodger]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.

I´m always willing to test for you! Just upload it and I´ll try.
I have three players...
Panasonic DMP-BD30 - Software V2.3
Samsung BD-P1400 - Software 19.12.2008 (planning on giving that one away)
Samsung BD-P2500 - Software 17.12.2008

But discussing that should be another thread, right?

[MadMonkey57]

tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip) + avchd output (i.e without non avchd dirs) on red laser DVD is working fine on Panasonic BD35

[roman76r]

I slightly uppdated tsMuxer:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip

Change list:
- now video resolution field in CLPI file always filled. Previus versions does not filled this field for cropped video.

[Atak_Snajpera]

I slightly uppdated tsMuxer:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip
I can't wait to see 'sup resizing' option :)

[BlackJack1]

Where can I find changing list for version tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b) and tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b)?

[Discoboy]

Where can I find changing list for version tsMuxeR_1.9.6(b) and tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b)?

1.9.6b = http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272550#post1272550

1.9.7b = 2 posts up #3269

[fifteen]

You've got my vote for continuing to make tsmuxer more to spec.

It makes sense. It's the only way that you can ensure that future players will accept the current media you are authoring.

[Discoboy]

tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.7(b).zip) + avchd output (i.e without non avchd dirs) on red laser DVD is working fine on Panasonic BD35

Also working fine for me on a BD55

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi all,

Would the following selectivity options be easier for users to understand: -

http://i41.tinypic.com/10zwrcn.png


Cheers

[laserfan]

Hi all,

Would the following selectivity options be easier for users to understand: -

http://i41.tinypic.com/10zwrcn.pngOnly IMO if it were accompanied by a clear description of what the heck those different options mean! ;)

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand--wanna take a crack at it SMD? :D

I just know that I can presently burn tsMuxeR's Blu-ray output onto DVD-5/9 discs, both SD and HD, and they play-back as BD discs on my standalone player (LG BH200) so I am happy.

[deank]

He meant SD as SecureDigital (card) not Standard Definition.

[herrde]

I just know that I can presently burn tsMuxeR's Blu-ray output onto DVD-5/9 discs, both SD and HD, and they play-back as BD discs on my standalone player (LG BH200) so I am happy.

Not anymore. In the newer versions of tsmuxer, you would have to select "AVCHD" and not "Blu-ray" output if you want to burn the output on a DVD 5/9. See my post here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272141#post1272141

@SeeMoreDigital: Your new "options" could confuse a user who wants to do AVCHD output on USB media. Maybe he wouldn't know which option to choose...

Best,

Gero

[laserfan]

He meant SD as SecureDigital (card) not Standard Definition.Oh, my--I'd never have interpreted SD as THAT! Maybe SMD's not the right guy to clarify this after all! :D

[Mtz]

I vote also for SMD options. Maybe the word "to" will confuse the user that tsmuxer is doing some conversion and because of that, maybe "on" will be better that "to".

I made a small test on my TViX for 2 files:
1920x816 > Blu-Ray > TViX working OK
1820x1080 > Blu-Ray > TViX crashed > reboot > crash again

Maybe is a bug in their firmware or maybe some things are made different by tsmuxer when creating output for 816 and for 1080.

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand...

1st thing to be known is this: THE ONLY difference between AVCHD and BLU-RAY output from tsmuxer is the index.bdmv file + in some of the latest versions these options differ also with the removal of non-AVCHD folders when using --avchd mode.

Few things a user should consider before using either of the output modes.

1st) If earlier versions of tsmuxer (only --blu-ray switch present) worked for you, then now use --blu-ray again and patch the output with goBD (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goBD-tool.exe) or AVCHD-patcher.

2nd) Find out if your player *really* supports AVCHD - check its user manual. (if earlier versions of tsmuxer worked - it supports it).

If it does, you shouldn't have problems using the new tsmuxer with --avchd option if you burn the output to DVD.

If it doesn't - then you'll have to use --blu-ray mode and burn the content to BD-R(E) disc or DVD.

3rd) If you're going to use SDHC card, MemoryStick card or USB then always go for the --avchd mode and *always* set filenames to 8.3 format (using AVCHD Manager or AVCHDme).

4th) The tricks with removing CERTIFICATE or AUXDATA folders are related to a set of players that support AVCHD but if they see such folders on your disc will refuse to play it, because they 'think' it is BD, not AVCHD. On the other hand - another set of players which does not support AVCHD will refuse to play your files if these folders are not present (and if you didn't use the new --blu-ray mode).

These various options are now added in multiAVCHD, too.

[fifteen]

Not anymore. In the newer versions of tsmuxer, you would have to select "AVCHD" and not "Blu-ray" output if you want to burn the output on a DVD 5/9.

That's simply for the PS3. Right? It's a way of hacking around PS3's media detection...

So for standalone disc (BD5/BD9 or BDR/E) Bluray is always good, except for PS3 which will only work with (BDR/E).

[idbirch2]

I wish some people would stop bitching about TSMuxer trying to conform a bit better to standards. Having found workarounds and written guides based on a flawed solution is not grounds for permanently sticking to it. OK, so you now have to work out which of the 2 output modes is best suited to your player again - wow, nightmare, that's a whole 2 tests you have to do. Get over it.

[ACrowley]

Ive a strange Problem.

MY whole System freezes after a while when i use TSmuxer to demux Tracks from Bluray M2TS ? I cant remember that older Version had the same Problmes here ?
I use Vista x64 SP1 , 4GB Ram. SATA 300 is active everthing else works fine

Maybe its caused by async i/o ?

Muxing into TS/M2TS works fine, MKV de/remuxing too

[laserfan]

1st thing to be known is this: THE ONLY difference between AVCHD and BLU-RAY output from tsmuxer is the index.bdmv file + in some of the latest versions these options differ also with the removal of non-AVCHD folders when using --avchd mode.

Few things a user should consider before using either of the output modes.

1st) If earlier versions of tsmuxer (only --blu-ray switch present) worked for you, then now use --blu-ray again and patch the output with goBD (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goBD-tool.exe) or AVCHD-patcher.

2nd) Find out if your player *really* supports AVCHD - check its user manual. (if earlier versions of tsmuxer worked - it supports it).

If it does, you shouldn't have problems using the new tsmuxer with --avchd option if you burn the output to DVD.

If it doesn't - then you'll have to use --blu-ray mode and burn the content to BD-R(E) disc or DVD.

3rd) If you're going to use SDHC card, MemoryStick card or USB then always go for the --avchd mode and *always* set filenames to 8.3 format (using AVCHD Manager or AVCHDme).

4th) The tricks with removing CERTIFICATE or AUXDATA folders are related to a set of players that support AVCHD but if they see such folders on your disc will refuse to play it, because they 'think' it is BD, not AVCHD. On the other hand - another set of players which does not support AVCHD will refuse to play your files if these folders are not present (and if you didn't use the new --blu-ray mode).

These various options are now added in multiAVCHD, too.Maybe I'm lazy, or thick, but I'm still (very) confused.

I want to come at the question from another pov, that of the disc and playback one needs to work, in my case DVD-5/9 (red laser). My sense is that AVCHD was designed for camcorder usage and thus red laser. Further that it needs to accommodate FAT32 limitations re: filesize. So I think I'm hearing that AVCHD has the best chance of working with home-brew discs and standalone Blu-ray players. Yes? But I guess you've said too there is AVCHD with normal filenames and AVCHD using 8.3 only.

Next, it seems that Blu-ray disc format (BDMV/CERTIFICATE et. al.) works on red laser discs with a lot of players (mine included) but not all i.e. some players see that format and expect it to be on a BD disc, not a DVD-5/9. Still other players refuse to play homebrew discs at all.

I don't understand either why I should "patch my BD output" with the new tsMuxeR--it's doing something different/incorrect from earlier versions? I'm "only" using 1.9.4 atm. With 1.9.7 my discs will stop working?

I appreciate your efforts to educate deank but maybe I'm a lost cause here...!

[Rodger]

Ive a strange Problem.

MY whole System freezes after a while when i use TSmuxer to demux Tracks from Bluray M2TS ? I cant remember that older Version had the same Problmes here ?
I use Vista x64 SP1 , 4GB Ram. SATA 300 is active everthing else works fine

Maybe its caused by async i/o ?

Muxing into TS/M2TS works fine, MKV de/remuxing too

Nope definetly problem on your computer.
Demuxed several M2TS from harddisk AND from DVD-RW DL today.
Never freezed or showed ANY sign to do so.

[deank]

My sense is that AVCHD ... needs to accommodate FAT32 limitations. So I think I'm hearing that AVCHD has the best chance of working with home-brew discs and standalone Blu-ray players. Yes? But I guess you've said too there is AVCHD with normal filenames and AVCHD using 8.3 only.

Yes, AVCHD is the home-version of BDMV and, yes, if you use optical media then your files will not be 8.3 but normal.

Next, it seems that Blu-ray disc format (BDMV/CERTIFICATE et. al.) works on red laser discs with a lot of players (mine included) but not all i.e. some players see that format and expect it to be on a BD disc, not a DVD-5/9. Still other players refuse to play homebrew discs at all.

Right.

I don't understand either why I should "patch my BD output" with the new tsMuxeR--it's doing something different/incorrect from earlier versions? I'm "only" using 1.9.4 atm. With 1.9.7 my discs will stop working?

Yes, they will if your player doesn't support real BD format on DVD. New tsmuxer isn't doing anything incorrect, but the opposite.

[SeeMoreDigital]

For all the threads I've attempted to follow here about BD vs. BD-on-DVD5/9 vs. AVCHD it's not at all clear to me what the precise differences are. Wish someone could summarize in English I can understand--wanna take a crack at it SMD? :DIf you say, capture some video using a Sony or Panasonic "AVCHD SD" camcorder and insert the SD card into your PC and look at file extensions, you'll notice they're different to a Blu-ray disc.... For example: -

The "BDMV" folder contains an "INDEX.BDM" file and "MOVIEOBJ.BDM" file, instead of an "index.bdmv" file and "MovieObject.bdmv" file.

The "CLIPINF" folder contains an ".CPI" file, instead of an ".clpi" file.

The "PLAYLIST" folder contains an ".MPL" file, instead of an ".mpls" file.

And the "STREAM" folder contains ".MTS" files, instead of ".m2ts" files.

.... And that's just some of the differences between the files. The "Folder" structure/layout is different too!

I vote also for SMD options. Maybe the word "to" will confuse the user that tsmuxer is doing some conversion and because of that, maybe "on" will be better that "to".So something like this then: -

http://i44.tinypic.com/24dm1xj.png


Cheers

[herrde]

That's simply for the PS3. Right? It's a way of hacking around PS3's media detection...

So for standalone disc (BD5/BD9 or BDR/E) Bluray is always good, except for PS3 which will only work with (BDR/E).

Can't really tell because I only have a PS3, no other stand-alone... but as the PS3 actually HAS this media detection, chances are that other SAP's might have it too... so I guess you should first find out if your player supports AVCHD. If it does, you should use Blu-ray output only if you are actually burning to BD media, but if you're using DVD5/9 media, you should use AVCHD output.
And well, if your SAP doesn't support AVCHD, you're limited to use "Blu-ray output" anyway...

Best,

Gero

[adalbertoma]

Deank,

I've been reading all your responses to other users. Thanks for being such a great helper.

Now I got 2 quick questions for you:

1 - Is the AVCHD output option on the new versions of TSMuxer 100% compatible with the PS3?

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

Thanks!

[vcarter]

hi

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

here's the first part of the response
from roman

I have bad news. Seemingly is not possible to modify H.264 stream correctly for restore cropped frame.
I made this function but it does not work.

and the second

from roman
I think there is another way to solve the problem with cropped video. It is a BD-J technology

but from now you can use the great uncropMKV from deank.

just make an mkv with ripbot or else,then use uncropMKV,or use your h264 file (demux with tsmuxer) in a soft like XviD4PSP and add black borders.

but be care cause someone on the forum begin to ask you why you get a cropped mkv or why you work on a bd with cropped resolutions,and you finish to be banned cause it's a b.....d

@+

[deank]

Deank,

1 - Is the AVCHD output option on the new versions of TSMuxer 100% compatible with the PS3?

2 - Is the crop undo thing still being worked by the TSMuxer author? Any chances for us to get this function on a near release?

1) Yes, it is. The only thing you'll need to do (as before) is to rename files to 8.3 if you're going to use usb/sd/ms.

2) There were three ways to do it: with adding slices to h.264 stream, with employing PIP and 3rd with BD-J. I'm not a speaker of roman, nor I know what he's planning but may be we'll find some sort of a solution.

Dean

[ACrowley]

Nope definetly problem on your computer.
Demuxed several M2TS from harddisk AND from DVD-RW DL today.
Never freezed or showed ANY sign to do so.

wait..not so fast:)

As i say, i can do everything with TSmuxer. but it freezes "sometimes" (very rarely)on untouched M2TS from BluRay when "demux" some Tracks.

It works with older Verions on those Files and with other Tools/Methods. Also it seems to works with async i/o disabled

So i dont think its only caused by my System....

[vcarter]

1) Yes, it is. The only thing you'll need to do (as before) is to rename files to 8.3 if you're going to use usb/sd/ms.

2) There were three ways to do it: with adding slices to h.264 stream, with employing PIP and 3rd with BD-J. I'm not a speaker of roman, nor I know what he's planning but may be we'll find some sort of a solution.

Dean

why is there the 4 GB limitation if i put my avchd on a usb/sd/ms?
i looked for faq abour avchdme,and found this limitation.

so if i put files on a dvd (bd9),it's ok,but not with usb/sd/ms ???!!

please deank can you confirm this.

may be we'll find some sort of a solution

for sure if talentuous dev work together,everyone would win.

@+

[deank]

why is there the 4 GB limitation if i put my avchd on a usb/sd/ms?

please deank can you confirm this.

Usually USB flash drives, SD cards and MemoryStick cards use (are formatted in) FAT32 standard. It doesn't allow files bigger than 4GiB - that's why you have limitations.

NTFS (for HDDs) and UDF 2.50/2.60 (for DVD/BD) support larger than 4GiB files, but as you know PS3 can't read NTFS on external (usb) hdd - that's why you need FAT32 and all that comes with its limitations.

[gizzin]

I understand the differences between avchd and blueray. But this will be something really confusing for the end user. Because something works, and somethings don't with certain players. Mostly what turbojet was saying. What happens when implementing menus on dvd5/9 using avchd, blueray options? BD-J isn't possible on avchd right? We will certainly have to keep track of what works on what players. I really liked the idea of having full bd backups on dvd media...

[Rodger]

wait..not so fast:)

As i say, i can do everything with TSmuxer. but it freezes "sometimes" (very rarely)on untouched M2TS from BluRay when "demux" some Tracks.

It works with older Verions on those Files and with other Tools/Methods. Also it seems to works with async i/o disabled

So i dont think its only caused by my System....

Aaah....you shouldn´t do so EVER. That is known!
First rip to harddisk via anydvdHD then demux or run dgavcindex.

I wouldn´t even test the way you do, because it´s stupid to me. It´ll totally reduce the working speed of my bd-drive
As I may tell you the Asus BC-06B1ST kills my old Pioneer BDC-202BK as it is more than two times the speed of the pioneer.

[pleinlesyeux]

Hello,

I'm sorry but what would be the purpose of "uncropped h264" for tsmuxer ?

I assumed H264 BD were 1080p...

[Wishbringer]

Hello,

I'm sorry but what would be the purpose of "uncropped h264" for tsmuxer ?

I assumed H264 BD were 1080p...

Yes, with black borders at some 2.35:1 or 4:3 movies.
So for example you have to add borders to left and right when reencoding some 4:3 DVD movies, even when resized to 1080 height.

[guillome]

Hello there =)

I've noticed that with the new version 1.9.1, when using tsmuxer for example to mux a MKV+SRT file to M2TS, TS, bluray, etc., the resulted PGS subtitle inside will now be displayed with italics if html tags where used into the SRT, pretty sure this wasn't there before! thank you this is really useful:)

So i'm wondering if you would be ready to take this a step further with tags that allow to (exceptionally) modify the position of the displayed sub.
This technique is getting used a lot by fansubbers of TV shows and is used especially when the subtitles would get on top of other info (like if you watch Desperate Housewives *sic* where the list of credited producers lasts for several minutes...)

here's a SRT file that contains some: http://paste2.org/p/183095
ex: 2
00:00:03,170 --> 00:00:04,335
{\pos(290,260)}Vous êtes l'un d'eux ?

and pic of the result played in MPC:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2721/mpchctest.th.png (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpchctest.png)

and that what happens when SRT is played by a player that doesn't support these tags: (a TViX, which at least filters them, unlike many others!)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1893/dsc00261j.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00261j.jpg)

That's all... Sorry i know it's not cool to to a request on the 1st post :rolleyes:

ps: i apologize for my poor english :/

[ACrowley]

Aaah....you shouldn´t do so EVER. That is known!
First rip to harddisk via anydvdHD then demux or run dgavcindex.

I wouldn´t even test the way you do, because it´s stupid to me. It´ll totally reduce the working speed of my bd-drive
As I may tell you the Asus BC-06B1ST kills my old Pioneer BDC-202BK as it is more than two times the speed of the pioneer.

really ?:rolleyes: Do you think im so stupid ?

Is only use already decyrpted M2TS :)
Waht I mean with "untouched" is= not reencoded and or Remuxed M2TS Streams (but ofcourse already decrypted to HDD via AnyDVD)

[rapscallion]

I've noticed in the Tsmuxer output (BR or avchd) that Clipinf Editor shows a packet discrepancy between the clipinf and M2TS stream on every backup I've done in the past 2 weeks.

On a short test muxe, ~15-30 min it's fine/matches, but on a full movie, I get the discrepancy

Do you folks click on "Fix length" to correct this, ignore it, or don't bother checking ?
Am I just being overly picky here?

Edit : BTW, he states that on his PS3 the discrepancy can cause a pause,skip.
However he's not tested on another standalone BR player.

Info : Here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=26930)

[deank]

I never stopped auto-fixing clip information about mt2s blocks, despite it was said long ago it was fixed in tsmuxer.

I didn't know it is still wrong, but now I know - thanks, rapscallion.

[mrr19121970]

On a short test muxe, ~30 min it's fine/matches, but on a full movie, I get the discrepancy

Do you folks click on "Fix length" to correct this, ignore it, or don't bother checking ?
Am I just being overly picky here?

i've seen a discrepancy on original BDs, so I guess if it's not causing you a visible problem on playback i'd say it's a small worry

[deank]

i've seen a discrepancy on original BDs, so I guess if it's not causing you a visible problem on playback i'd say it's a small worry

It is noticeable in PS3... Offset $38-$3B in .clpi files should usually have the corresponding m2ts filesize % 192 rounded up (or otherwise said number_of_source_packets in ClipInfo() segment).

[rapscallion]

i've seen a discrepancy on original BDs, so I guess if it's not causing you a visible problem on playback i'd say it's a small worry
Well, that's the thing, I haven't burned any full movie discs yet, other than the tests I've done on the short clips (dvd-rw).

That's why I thought I'd ask first, because you did experience a problem on the PS3.
Thank you for that program, BTW !

[roman76r]

New version of tsMuxeR is available:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.9.8(b).zip

Change list:
- added option "--insertBlankPL" which allows to add short black video (near 0.5 second) before main video. It is sovles the problem of "green bar" for cropped video on some players such PS3.
- Added options --mplsOffset and --m2tsOffset for changing M2TS and MPLS files enumeration.
- video_format field in MPLS file now always filled, including cropped video.

[idbirch2]

I haven't been fixing the M2TS packet size in my TSMuxer output since the bug was fixed and it's not been incorrect since - are you sure this app is performing the check properly? All my recent muxes (full movies split every 4GB) check out fine using my own clpi checking code and Dean's. I also watched one of my new muxes today and it was fine (as you say, the issue when present causes horrible pauses at each .m2ts split).

Maybe it only occurs on single-m2ts muxes (I don't do those) in which case, it wouldn't really matter as you'd just get a pause right at the very end of the movie?

[rack04]

Retaining mkv custom chapters does not work in 1.9.8. They work fine in 1.9.7.

[roman76r]

rack04
You are right. I'll fix it at evening.

[mrr19121970]

@roman76r

I'm wondering why you don't keep page 1 up-to-date (especially concerning version numbers).

Thanks.

[rapscallion]

I haven't been fixing the M2TS packet size in my TSMuxer output since the bug was fixed and it's not been incorrect since - are you sure this app is performing the check properly? All my recent muxes (full movies split every 4GB) check out fine using my own clpi checking code and Dean's. I also watched one of my new muxes today and it was fine (as you say, the issue when present causes horrible pauses at each .m2ts split).

Maybe it only occurs on single-m2ts muxes (I don't do those) in which case, it wouldn't really matter as you'd just get a pause right at the very end of the movie?
Single muxes are all I've done so far but do plan multiple in the future.
I have no way to know if the app is performing the check properly.
Which one of Dean's clpi checking apps do you use ?

[deank]

I believe this one (http://www.deanbg.com/fixclipinf.rar). It is command line utility.

[idbirch2]

You can still get FixClipInf here (http://mkv2avi.deanbg.com/fixclipinf.rar). Run it from a command line simply giving it the path to your root BD/AVCHD folder e.g. fixclipinf D:\Stuff\FilmA
Edit, ha, Dean beat me to it! :)

[rapscallion]

Thank you both...I'll give it a try and see if the results differ.

Edit : Well, I guess it'll remain a bit of a mystery. File patched w/dean's app and Clipinf Editor still shows a mismatch in the packets. Patched again with the same results. One could assume from this that there was no mismatch to start with.

[deank]

@mrr19121970: I just tried clipinf editor 0.02b.

1) I see "Frame rate" above the resolutions drop-down.
2) CLIPINF Header shows HDMV0100 to be AVCHD and HDMV0200 to be Blu-ray, which is incorrect (as previously discussed in this thread)

AVCHD clpi file will have CLEX segment and its extended data should contain ID1+ID2 for AVCHD (0x1000 0x01000). Read more here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272188#post1272188)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/cledit.jpg

[rapscallion]

@dean....did you see the edit in my post above yours ?

[deank]

Yes, but I didn't have the chance to try direct tsmuxer output and check if packets match.

Your post was the reason to download clipinf editor and check some things.

All of my files showed a match, but I'll try later with pure tsmuxer 1.9.6 output.

[rapscallion]

I think that it might be size related. Every movie clip (5) that I test muxed ~30 min (less than 4gb) does not indicate an error in Clipinf.

Every full length movie (6 so far) ~2 hrs (~8.4 gb) has displayed the error , ver 1.8.3 through 1.9.7. (originally outputted Blu-ray and now Blu-ray and AVCHD)

[deank]

I just tried a file and split it to 20 m2ts+clpi and all showed correct values in clipinfeditor. I'll check later with a full-time movie.

edit:

Ok, I tried with 2hrs source (nine .clpi files) and tsmuxer 1.9.7 created proper m2ts block sizes in clip files. It may be something else in your case.

---

edit2: ...if you have only one m2ts/clpi pair and there are differences it shouldn't affect playback in any way, as idbirch said - so you need not to worry if final result will be broken. You wouldn't notice it I believe.

[BlackJack1]

what is the best = most compatible for standalone players version of TsMuxer?

[deank]

what is the best = most compatible for standalone players version of TsMuxer?

Take a look here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339)

[rapscallion]

Iedit:

Ok, I tried with 2hrs source (nine .clpi files) and tsmuxer 1.9.7 created proper m2ts block sizes in clip files. It may be something else in your case.
OOps, deleted my last post by mistake.

1.9.7
Here are the screen shots again. The first, the full 8.4gb movie with a single stream. Packet error and duplicate PID's
The second, same movie cut @ 3.4 gb, single stream. No packet error and single PID's.

Yes, I realize that it will most likely won't be a problem in playback. Just curious why the discrepancies.:thanks:

[deank]

We shall wait for attachment approval (I edited my post in the previous page).

About PID's - I'll need to see the screen shots... But before trusting to one application - verify with another (like mediainfo or tsmuxer itself) to check if wysiwyg. If you get about 5-10 blocks difference and you're using only one segment (1 m2ts/clpi) it wouldn't matter - not that it is okay...

[onesloth]

roman,

Most of the blu-ray structures that I've looked at have IN times of 00:00:11.650, instead of tsMuxer's default 00:10:00.000. It would be very useful to me if tsMuxer used a 00:00:11.650 IN time for blu-ray output instead or, even better, had an option for specifying the desired IN time.

[laserfan]

Can someone please briefly explain what IN time is, especially why it isn't just 00:00:00.000??? :confused:

[onesloth]

Can someone please briefly explain what IN time is, especially why it isn't just 00:00:00.000??? :confused:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Assets/Downloadablefile/2b_bdrom_audiovisualapplication_0305-12955-15269.pdf
Page 12 looks like it's the relevant specification.

I'm no expert, but my understanding is that a playlist item can start and stop at arbitrary points on a stream's timeline. IN times mark the point on the stream that a given playlist item starts at. Somebody else would have to explain why IN times are not zero when the playlist item plays (nearly) the whole stream.

For my purposes, after reencoding a seamless branching disc's m2ts's, being able to set tsMuxer's output's IN times the same as the original structure *should* (I assume) greatly simplify reconstructing the branching disc.

[laserfan]

...my understanding is that a playlist item can start and stop at arbitrary points on a stream's timeline. IN times mark the point on the stream that a given playlist item starts at.Very helpful post thanks. I will have to study the white paper (looks interesting but I just glanced at it); maybe this will be clearer to me, but the IN point implies that there should be a 10sec delay before the stream starts, and I don't *think* that's something that always happens on playback...is it?

[onesloth]

but the IN point implies that there should be a 10sec delay before the stream starts, and I don't *think* that's something that always happens on playback...is it?
It isn't specifying a ten second delay. Its saying that playback of that playitem (part or possibly all of a movie playlist) begins at 10 minutes into the timeline of the clip (m2ts). I believe the reason playback doesn't start 10 minutes into the stream is because the stream that needs to be played doesn't actually start until 10 minutes into its clip's timeline. That is to say, the timeline is perhaps 10 minutes longer than the actual stream.

[mrr19121970]

Packet error and duplicate PID's
The second, same movie cut @ 3.4 gb, single stream. No packet error and single PID's.

this is a known bug in my program. the 1st time you run, you'll get duplicated info. 2nd time it's gone. i only noticed myself a few weeks ago, and thought i'd got away with it as nobody had reported it. quite difficult to debug, as it requires a reboot every time. it's probably just an intialization issue though.

i'll have another look at this and the 2 other display bugs deank reported.

[mrr19121970]

@mrr19121970: I just tried clipinf editor 0.02b.

1) I see "Frame rate" above the resolutions drop-down.
2) CLIPINF Header shows HDMV0100 to be AVCHD and HDMV0200 to be Blu-ray, which is incorrect (as previously discussed in this thread)

2) original Blu-Ray disks have HDMV0200. please also see this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1191107#post1191107

I've uploaded V0.03b now. please feel frr to download.

[vcarter]

added option "--insertBlankPL" which allows to add short black video (near 0.5 second) before main video. It is sovles the problem of "green bar" for cropped video on some players such PS3

i know doom9 is full of dev with big QI,but for others like me,can someone tell us if with this option we don't need to add black borders.
and what about necessarry compliant resolution for ps3?
so no more green bars on ps3 with bd9 (avchd on dvd dl) with reso=1920*816 ?

@+

[herrde]

so no more green bars on ps3 with bd9 (avchd on dvd dl) with reso=1920*816 ?

In short: yes. This is the method that is being used in other programs like multiAVCHD or mkv2vob. deank (the programmer of multiAVCHD) invented it. It changes the big green bar of non-compliant resolution AVCHD movies to black.

Note that it DOES NOT center the movie, the movie will still be at the top of the screen. If you want the movie to be centered, you still have to add black borders to a movie with a non-compliant resolution for the time being.

Also, you will have to play your movie from the start. If your movie starts somewhere from the middle (e.g. if you continue to watch a movie after a break), the bar will turn green again. You would have to go to its beginning first and then jump back to the position you want to continue watching from.

Best,

Gero

[deank]

Also, you will have to play your movie from the start. If your movie starts somewhere from the middle (e.g. if you continue to watch a movie after a break), the bar will turn green again. You would have to go to its beginning first and then jump back to the position you want to continue watching from.

It is true only if your player goes directly to playback mode (from XMB to movie). If you're using a menu, initiate playback and then stop the movie and re-launch it from the menu it will continue and the green bar will be removed.

The trick with the green bar was first used in multiAVCHD build 159 ~ January 8th. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1234195#post1234195)

[ACrowley]

what is the best = most compatible for standalone players version of TsMuxer?

latest Version works perfect on Pocornhour .
All Audio Formates are working fine now, including DTS HRA which was broken before.

Works also fine on Sony BDP S350

[rapscallion]

this is a known bug in my program. the 1st time you run, you'll get duplicated info. 2nd time it's gone. i only noticed myself a few weeks ago, and thought i'd got away with it as nobody had reported it. quite difficult to debug, as it requires a reboot every time. it's probably just an intialization issue though.

I'll have another look at this and the 2 other display bugs deank reported.
Thanks mrr19121970, I hadn't tried running it twice and you're right , no duplicates. (new ver the same)

I am curious about the packet length errors for longer length outputs and also why the error remains after applying dean's clpi fix/patch ? (your fix in the editor works, of course)

[mrr19121970]

I am curious about the packet length errors for longer length outputs and also why the error remains after applying dean's clpi fix/patch ?

I rounded down, not up. You can now try 0.04b. Thanks.

[rapscallion]

I rounded down, not up. You can now try 0.04b. Thanks.
Excellent ! new ver shows no error now in movies I restored the original clipinf files, from the backup folder.

So it appears that Tsmuxer output and your editor are in sync.:thanks:

Thanks for your efforts on this and hope that I didn't cause too much confusion for everyone else by bringing this up.:o

[belcampo]

latest Version works perfect on Pocornhour .
All Audio Formates are working fine now, including DTS HRA which was broken before.

Works also fine on Sony BDP S350

SInce 1.9.1 -1.9.9 I can't produce files that my PopCornHour accepts, with h.264 and aac. The older tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b).zip although works fine.

[ACrowley]

SInce 1.9.1 -1.9.9 I can't produce files that my PopCornHour accepts, with h.264 and aac. The older tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b).zip although works fine.

Mh... i can only speak about H264/VC1/Mpeg2 + DTS (HD,HRA,ES) AC3(EX6.1)and TrueHD (with AC3 core)

AAC in M2TS works with Popcornhour ? Didnt kow that.
I thought onlAAC in MP4/MOV only
I dont know ,maybe AAC+H264 is better in MP4 generally ?

[vcarter]

hi

i use 1.9.8 and on final avchd disc ,there's no more certificate,and in bdmv,there are no more AUXDATA,BDJO,JAR,META.
and a big problem appeared:video and audio are no more synchro

@+

ps:sorry i did not read the tsmuxer readme about empty folder

[turbojet]

Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.

roman76r: Is there a possibility for this command line option so open with works correctly: tsmuxergui.exe <input file>

[Discoboy]

Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.


Yes I've just noticed the same issue on Vista x64 sp1 with m2ts inputs also

[TiVoMad]

I am about to convert my HD-DVD collection to m2ts (so I can play on a Popcorn Hour). I would like to keep the hi-def audio if possible. When I use eac3to to de-mux the truehd track in its native form, TSMuxer will not accept it as input. Is this because it has no AC3 core in there? Is there a way round this or do I need to convert to lpcm to keep the quality ?

Sorry if this was already answered, it's a long thread.

TiVo.

[SomeJoe]

I am about to convert my HD-DVD collection to m2ts (so I can play on a Popcorn Hour). I would like to keep the hi-def audio if possible. When I use eac3to to de-mux the truehd track in its native form, TSMuxer will not accept it as input. Is this because it has no AC3 core in there? Is there a way round this or do I need to convert to lpcm to keep the quality ?

eac3to.exe can add the interleaved .ac3 track for BD compatibility. (The following assumes that the input HD-DVD structure contains a TrueHD track).

eac3to.exe "<input>" <title>) <track>: "<output path>.thd+ac3"

[TiVoMad]

eac3to.exe can add the interleaved .ac3 track for BD compatibility. (The following assumes that the input HD-DVD structure contains a TrueHD track).

eac3to.exe "<input>" <title>) <track>: "<output path>.thd+ac3"

Works a treat, thank you very much. I did not realise you could do that :)

[shon3i]

Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.

roman76r: Is there a possibility for this command line option so open with works correctly: tsmuxergui.exe <input file>
same here on win xp sp3

[ACrowley]

Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.

roman76r: Is there a possibility for this command line option so open with works correctly: tsmuxergui.exe <input file>


yes! i can confirm this Problem.

TSmuxer stops working/muxing as soon i minimize the gui.
Independed from Source/Output Format on Vista x64

[Octo-puss]

Please update the first post with the latest version, it is getting a bit messy :) Thank you.

[idbirch2]

Strange, no problems with minimizing the GUI on Windows 7 x64.

[deank]

A possible bug report:

m2ts/ts files sometimes cannot report framerate (at all).

When tsMuxeR cannot detect fps and it is explicitly set (or detected) in .meta - file is created properly but mediainfo (not tsMuxeR itself) can detect the original FPS from the resulting m2ts/ts file.

Dean

edit: Please add a --log=filename.txt option.

[Furiousflea]

QUOTE=turbojet;1274548]Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.

I can confirm same behaviour here using the gui. (vista x64\tsmuxer 1.9.9)

[tim83]

Guys,

I'm getting the follwing error when trying to generate a AVCHD from a MKV file:

Matroska parse error: Invalid EBML number size 0 at pos 1932375627

This is the tsmuxer output:

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.9.9 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1280:536p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 muxing fps not set. Get fps from stream.
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding DTS stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1280:536 Frame rate: 23.976

Any help is appreciated! Other movies demux just fine.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1280:536 Frame rate: 23.976
BTW. AVCHD/BD requires 1920x1080, 1280x720 , 720x576 or 720x480!

[tim83]

Thanks for your reply, but I don't think that this is related. Other movies with similar resolutions process just fine. tsmuxer crashes when the MKV has already been processed for 42% or so. Maybe some other thoughts on this?

[schlaufer]

tim83: did you try to (re-)process the file with mkvmerge to ensure, that it is not damaged?

[deank]

Guys,

I'm getting the follwing error when trying to generate a AVCHD from a MKV file:

Matroska parse error: Invalid EBML number size 0 at pos 1932375627

EBML is bound to have all elements with non-zero sizes. It is either a wrong segment (withing EBML E_ID size data) or tsMuxeR confuses zero length bits value with zero based length of a tag (which otherwise should have a length of 1).

It is better to send a sample to Roman.

[kurt]

Is anyone else seeing the muxing stop in TSMuxerGUI 1.9.9 when minimizing/restoring the program?
I'm using vista x64 and it happens with m2ts/mkv inputs and all possible outputs.

roman76r: Is there a possibility for this command line option so open with works correctly: tsmuxergui.exe <input file>
yes, same here. had to start muxing like 10 times today (which sucks if u save to an external HDD) :(

(XP Prof SP3)

[moleyman69]

Hi,

just looking for a quick bit of advice.

All I use tsmuxer for is remuxing blu-ray m2ts files to rip out all languages I don't need. I don't create any mini Blu-Rays or anything like that.

Is there a particular "best" version for just doing this type of remuxing?

Many thanks,

Moley

[jamos]

SInce 1.9.1 -1.9.9 I can't produce files that my PopCornHour accepts, with h.264 and aac. The older tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b).zip although works fine.


um youd be better muxing that to a .mkv using mkvmerge if your using aac for popcorn hour (how I do aac).

Also you can use different versions of tsmuxer (I do constantly due to various bugs some versions present) on the same machine just put them in folders with the version name on it.

[pleinlesyeux]

Hi !

I have a very small bug to report.

I demux my streams with eac3to prior to remux with tsmuxer.
I always keep english and french supscripture.
Using the GUI, i can specify the langage, which I do.

The panasonic bd55 recognises .ENG track perfectly, but displays * for the french one. So I need to set it up manually, which is not a big problem.

I just wanted to report it...

[mrr19121970]

can you please post a sample .meta file ?

[ACrowley]

Just want to say again that theres another Problem with TSmuxer and Popcornhour A110 Playback (maybe on more HW Players)

M2TS x264 Streams in 24.000FPS are not detetcetd properly by the Popcornhour. The Player doenst recognize the 24.00FPs and plays them in standard/default 1080p 50hz
Framerate Detection/Output Mode works "perfect @24.000 FPS" with the untouched M2TS Streams. So theres maybe be something wrong in the Header/fps info caused by TSmuxer ?
Forcing FPS to 24 doesnt help

[tim83]

EBML is bound to have all elements with non-zero sizes. It is either a wrong segment (withing EBML E_ID size data) or tsMuxeR confuses zero length bits value with zero based length of a tag (which otherwise should have a length of 1).

It is better to send a sample to Roman.

Thanks for your reply. Roman has a new message in its inbox. ;)

[sucker]

i have a feature request for Roman :
1. i´d like to have the possibility to force subtitles and audio tracks
2. i´d like to have the possibility to change the track order after i added all the streams to tsmuxer, scenario would be: adding a mpls and then adding an external audio track but wanting this track to be the 1st/standard audio track
thx alot in advance ;)

[Ryu77]

i have a feature request for Roman :
1. i´d like to have the possibility to force subtitles and audio tracks
2. i´d like to have the possibility to change the track order after i added all the streams to tsmuxer, scenario would be: adding a mpls and then adding an external audio track but wanting this track to be the 1st/standard audio track
thx alot in advance ;)

You can change the track order via moving the tracks using the up and down buttons in tsMuxeR... However, the forcing option would be a great idea, this way I will no longer need to use BDedit to make this happen. :)

PS: A little off topic but does anybody know of a tool that can convert .srt (SubRip) subtitles to DVD subtitles (.sup format that IFOedit accepts) in such an easy fashion like tsMuxeR does for Blu-ray? I am having trouble trying to convert Vietnamese subtitles. With tsMuxeR the process is extremely easy, I just wish there was an equivalent muxer for DVD's.

[ultratoto14]

i already asked for this at the beginning of the month here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1270708#post1270708) but had no answer.

[Chumbo]

...PS: A little off topic but does anybody know of a tool that can convert .srt (SubRip) subtitles to DVD subtitles ....
Took less than 30 seconds to find this using Google.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/srt2sup

I'm sure if you spend a little time searching, you'll find others. ;)

i already asked for this at the beginning of the month here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1270708#post1270708) but had no answer.
Is there a "wish list" list somewhere for these types of requests? This thread is getting so big that I'm sure items get missed. I also asked for a feature here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1256940#post1256940) but not sure if it was added to the list or not.

[sucker]

You can change the track order via moving the tracks using the up and down buttons in tsMuxeR
thx alot, somehow i managed to overlook that feature, so my 2nd request is already filled, that was quick ;)
the forced sub request still stands Roman (hope)

[moleyman69]

Hi,

just looking for a quick bit of advice.

All I use tsmuxer for is remuxing blu-ray m2ts files to rip out all languages I don't need. I don't create any mini Blu-Rays or anything like that.

Is there a particular "best" version for just doing this type of remuxing?

Many thanks,

Moley

Anyone able to help me out with this quick question?

Pwetty pwease?

Thanks,

Moley

[rapscallion]

Anyone able to help me out with this quick question?

Pwetty pwease?

Thanks,

Moley
Someone could IF you mentioned what you're going to use the final file for (ie watch on your computer, burn to BD or BR, etc.)

[moleyman69]

Hi,

I'll be viewing them on my Popcorn Hour A110, which plays M2TS files with all the hi-def audio goodness. The A110 doesn't need anything special doing to the M2TS files.

Thanks again,

Moley

[setarip_old]

Hi!All I use tsmuxer for is remuxing blu-ray m2ts files to rip out all languages I don't need. I don't create any mini Blu-Rays or anything like that.All of the versions should handle that activity properly...

[Ryu77]

Took less than 30 seconds to find this using Google.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/srt2sup

I'm sure if you spend a little time searching, you'll find others. ;)

I am not the type of person who posts something without trying to find it myself first. I posted this here as I thought someone may have found an application not as common but perfect for my needs.

I already tried srt2sup and also txt2sup but they both will not recognize Vietnamese subtitles. tsMuxeR does this so easily, it would be great if there were an equivalent for DVD... But it seems maybe there is not.

Thanks for your help anyway. :)

[moleyman69]

Hi!All of the versions should handle that activity properly...

Thanks Setarip,

I had noticed a post a few back that mentioned something about 1.9.9 not detecting framerate properly and that is what me wonder - albeit that the poster of said post was probably referring to another aspect of tsmuxer :)

Thanks again for the clarification,

Moley

[setarip_old]

You're quite welcome ;>}

I'm glad to see that you understand that I'm referring ONLY to the activity you described...

[moleyman69]

You're quite welcome ;>}

I'm glad to see that you understand that I'm referring ONLY to the activity you described...

I do indeed.

Thanks again

:-)

[wiggle]

TsMuxer 1.9.9 has a problem identifying streams. I got a bluray which has two DTS-HD Audio streams.. first is regular and the second is descriptive audio. When I open the bluray in TsMuxer, it should recognize the bluray as:

1: 1080p video (Profile: High@4.1 Resolution:1920x1080p Framerate:24)
2: dts-hd regular
3: dts-hd descriptive
4: sub1
5: sub2

Instead, tsmuxer incorrectly identifies the bluray as follows:

1: bad stream, supposively video: Profile: 13.9 Resolution: 154:-4i Framerate:not found
2: 1080p video (Profile: High@4.1 Resolution:1920x1080p Framerate:24)
3: dts-hd descriptive
4: sub 1
5: sub 2

So, it doesnt recognize the first dts-hd stream correctly, instead, tsmuxer thinks its a video stream.. when i try to demux the stream tsmuxer immediatly gives this error:
"Not enought buffer"

[pleinlesyeux]

can you please post a sample .meta file ?

I think I found the problem.

In TSMuxer GUI, the default langage for French is fre.
Way down, there is a French that is fra.

I'm gonna try this setup and see if it works.

If not, i'll post a .meta.

Thank you !

[mrr19121970]

@wiggle

as a workaround, demux all streams 1st with eac3to and build them back together with tsMuxeR. for comfort you can used Clown_BD

you'll probably need to post a sample to Roman76R (a couple of MBs should do).

@pleinlesyeux

is the input stream FRA too ? if so then no bug. you can check with this tool (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=26930)

[pleinlesyeux]

@mrr19121970

The input is FRA. But it is not a bug per se, because I'm inputing myself the langage of the stream because I manually remux the movie+audio+subtitles.
This is because for 2.35 movies, I need to change the subtitles position. So I add extra (upped?) subtitles in TSMUXER (using bdsup2sup, it is a matter of seconds !!!). When importing using the GUI, you have to manually tell what langage each stream is.
And the default French is FRE, and it seems that it should be FRA.

For not 2.35 movies, I happily use clownBD all the way. It would be great to add a "shift the subtitles within the picture using BDsub2sup" in clown...

[mrr19121970]

For not 2.35 movies, I happily use clownBD all the way. It would be great to add a "shift the subtitles within the picture using BDsub2sup" in clown...

actually in 'batch' mode you could....

i don't know what the CLI option would be but the generated BAT file can be simply changed by you before execution:


@echo off

echo Created By Clown_BD v0.45

echo ************************
echo *** 1 - American_Gangster
echo ************************
echo Source=Q:\
echo DeMultiplex=D:\demux\American_Gangster
echo Multiplex=D:\demux\American_Gangster

REM *** Call eac3to 3rd Pass ***
"E:\TVIX\Clown_BD\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "Q:\" 1) 2: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Chapters_2.txt" 3: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Video_3.*" 6: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Audio_6_English.AC3" 9: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Audio_9_German.AC3" 14: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_14_English.sup" 28: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_28_English.sup" 34: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_34_English.sup" 17: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_17_German.sup" 31: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_31_German.sup" 37: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_37_German.sup" 42: "D:\demux\American_Gangster\Subtitles_42_German.sup" -LOG="D:\demux\American_Gangster\eac3to_PASS3_LOG.LOG"

REM *** Call BDSup2Sub ***
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -jar "E:\TVIX\Clown_BD\BDSup2Sub\BDSup2Sub.jar" "'D:\demux\American_Gangster\*.sup' 'D:\demux\American_Gangster\*_exp.sup' /res:1080 /BLAHBLAHBLAH"

REM *** Call tsMuxeR ***
"E:\TVIX\Clown_BD\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR.exe" "D:\demux\American_Gangster\American_Gangster.meta" "D:\demux\American_Gangster\American_Gangster"

REM *** PLAY WAV ***
"E:\TVIX\Clown_BD\Extras\PlayWav.exe" "C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn\Sounds\Success.wav"

[n00bleader]

Did they fix the green bar when the video is cropped. Also is that only for the height or both the width and height.

[roman76r]

Now I have begin to implement MOV/MP4 container support.
I plan to finish this feature by the end of the week.
Also, Seemingly I have fix the problem of determining the AAC tracks in MKV.

[Ryu77]

Now I have begin to implement MOV/MP4 container support.
I plan to finish this feature by the end of the week.
Also, Seemingly I have fix the problem of determining the AAC tracks in MKV.

Thank you so much for your continued development.

Just a thought, is there any way to implement a feature that could identify forced subtitles?

I have noticed the occasional subtitle has certain segments that are forced while others are not. This becomes difficult to identify as the forced sections are embedded within the standard subtitle and somehow there are flags to tell the player when to show the forced subtitles within the regular subtitle stream.

I hope I have explained this correctly but to clarify, there are sometimes what seems like a normal English subtitle, that contains forced sections (maybe when a foreign dialog is spoken during the movie) within that subtitle.

It would be great to be able to identify which subtitles are forced within tsMuxeR.

[mariner]

Now I have begin to implement MOV/MP4 container support.
I plan to finish this feature by the end of the week.
Also, Seemingly I have fix the problem of determining the AAC tracks in MKV.

Greetings Roman. This is splendid.

Here are some 1920x1080/60P H264/AAC .mp4 samples for your testing.

http://www.sanyo-dsc.com/products/lineup/dmx_hd2000/img/sample/movie_sample_hd2000_01.zip
http://ckworks.sakura.ne.jp/data/xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_1_mp4.zip
http://88.191.20.67/video/akiba/SANYO_HD2000_1920x1080_60fps.zip

Thanks and best regards.

[mrr19121970]

Just a thought, is there any way to implement a feature that could identify forced subtitles?

I have noticed the occasional subtitle has certain segments that are forced while others are not. This becomes difficult to identify as the forced sections are embedded within the standard subtitle and somehow there are flags to tell the player when to show the forced subtitles within the regular subtitle stream.

Assuming that you've demuxed all your streams 1st, then you could use BDSup2Sub (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) to extract only the Forced streams yourself.

But it would be excellent for Roman to find a way to bind & autoselect forced subtitles based on currently playing audio language.

[moleyman69]

Assuming that you've demuxed all your streams 1st, then you could use BDSup2Sub (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) to extract only the Forced streams yourself.

But it would be excellent for Roman to find a way to bind & autoselect forced subtitles based on currently playing audio language.

I agree - auto-selecting forced subs would be excellent :)

[Underground78]

Now I have begin to implement MOV/MP4 container support.
I plan to finish this feature by the end of the week.
Also, Seemingly I have fix the problem of determining the AAC tracks in MKV.

:thanks:

[deank]

Feature request #1: an option to create opaque-boxed subtitles (instead of outlined-only). It will be nice to have opaque % option so the box can be set to 30%-40% opacity.

Feature request #2: Support for IGS/TextST mux/demux.

Can anyone point me to a tool that can create SUP subtitle stream for BDMV from SRT files (with opaque box)?

[tekmobile]

Would also appreciate adding secondary audio (PiP) to compliment the secondary video PiP for blu-ray


Many Thanks

[BobZhome]

I'm get out of sync audio when joining m2ts files from the Watchmen Blu-ray disc. I'm trying to split the original Disc into two back up discs with six episodes on each backup disc. The first episode on the backup disc is in sync, but then when the second episode starts it becomes out of sync. I'm using the latest version(tsMuxeR_1.9.9). How can I get this backup disc back into sync?

Thanks for the help!

[ps3hacker]

Always demux audio and video streams with eac3to when it is a seemless branching movie/disk. Mux back together with tsmuxer, then split accordingly.This should solve your problem

[Ryu77]

I am having a little difficulty with the new version of tsMuxeR...

Previously I selected Blu-ray output and burnt to DVD Media (UDF 2.5) without any problem. My PS3 recognised it as an AVCHD disc.

However, now when I do that with v1.9.9 it shows as a data disc. I am wondering which settings I need to alter to rectify this?

- Is it that I need to select AVCHD output now?
- I am gueesing I need to uncheck "add blank playlist for cropped video" if I am using full resolution video, is that correct?
- What exactly does the "Blu-ray audio PES" option do? Should I leave it checked or unchecked?

PS: Roman, if any of the above settings need to be altered it may be better to set the default settings as those that work for normal muxing projects.

[koutou]

Hi.

I posted a question in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339) with the compatibility list, but I will refine it here as more people may read it and may know the answer.

I've been using tsmuxer for a long time, changing versions from time to time, creating blu-ray backups (don't care about AVCHD). The latest version I'm using is 1.8.35. Now time has come to start burning some of those backups to bd-r disks for archiving. The problem is, I don't have a standalone player to do any tests and I can't remember the version of tsmuxer I've used for the various movies I have on hard disk.
My question is, do I need to run tsmuxer again (e.g. latest version) so that I create the most possible compatible bd-r backups or is it fine to just burn the ones I have created in the past?

Thank you in advance for your help :thanks:

[herrde]

@koutou:

If the latest version you've been using is 1.8.35, you can simply take your tsmuxer Blu-ray backups and burn them to BD-R IF you haven't run tools like AVCHDme or similar over those backups in order to make them playable from a USB device. Those BD-R's should play on MOST Blu-ray players incl. PS3. But actually, the so-called Blu-ray output from tsmuxer versions prior to 1.9.6 IS AVCHD!

If you want to go for an even higher compatibility (e.g. playback on some "difficult" Panasonic SAP's too), then you should use the latest tsmuxer version and remux your files again in Blu-ray output mode (which is not AVCHD anymore from version 1.9.6 on)!

Best,

Gero

[herrde]

@Ryu77:

- Blu-ray output in tsmuxer version 1.9.6 or later is for BD-R(E) only - not for DVD media anymore. If you want to burn your output on DVD-R, select AVCHD mode!

- yes, if you have what you call "full resolution" (i.e. 1920x1080 or 1280x720), there's no need to use the "add blank playlist" option, although it wouldn't hurt.

Don't really know about your third question though...

Best,

Gero

[koutou]

:thanks:

@koutou:

If the latest version you've been using is 1.8.35, you can simply take your tsmuxer Blu-ray backups and burn them to BD-R IF you haven't run tools like AVCHDme or similar over those backups in order to make them playable from a USB device. Those BD-R's should play on MOST Blu-ray players incl. PS3. But actually, the so-called Blu-ray output from tsmuxer versions prior to 1.9.6 IS AVCHD!

If you want to go for an even higher compatibility (e.g. playback on some "difficult" Panasonic SAP's too), then you should use the latest tsmuxer version and remux your files again in Blu-ray output mode (which is not AVCHD anymore from version 1.9.6 on)!

Best,

Gero

[Ryu77]

If you want to go for an even higher compatibility (e.g. playback on some "difficult" Panasonic SAP's too), then you should use the latest tsmuxer version and remux your files again in Blu-ray output mode (which is not AVCHD anymore from version 1.9.6 on)!

Thanks for your help above...

I had actually tried that in the meantime and found that selecting AVCHD was the answer. It is actually version 1.8.35b and onwards that uses the correct Blu-ray output (instead of AVCHD)... My curiousity lead me to testing different versions of tsMuxeR to discern where the exact changover occured. :p

[herrde]

True, you're right, the new separation between "Blu-ray" and "AVCHD" output happened in version 1.8.35(b), not 1.9.6 like I wrote.

Gero

[koutou]

I've got another easy question for you :D

Old tsmuxer versions had problems with dts-hd* and dts-ma right?

If I run a movie created with old version through the newest version, will the problem be fixed? :rolleyes:

*Edit: Not dts-hd but True-hd was problematic

[mrr19121970]

I've got another easy question for you :D

Old tsmuxer versions had problems with dts-hd* and dts-ma right?

If I run a movie created with old version through the newest version, will the problem be fixed? :rolleyes:

*Edit: Not dts-hd but True-hd was problematic

yes. SamuriHL on the Slysoft forum has tried this and old broken TrueHD rips get fixed.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=178813&postcount=410

[herrde]

Hi,

this question is not that easy, at least not for me... maybe Dean or Roman can explain this better...

As far as I know, demuxing "True-HD" has never been a problem at all. It's muxing True-HD tracks that causes (or caused?) problems... I am not sure if tsmuxer in its latest version can mux True-HD now... but I would be thankful too if somebody could shed some light on this...

Best,

Gero

[pleinlesyeux]

Yes I have zero problem muxing true HD with tsmuxer.

[odin24]

Thanks for your help above...

I had actually tried that in the meantime and found that selecting AVCHD was the answer. It is actually version 1.8.35b and onwards that uses the correct Blu-ray output (instead of AVCHD)... My curiousity lead me to testing different versions of tsMuxeR to discern where the exact changover occured. :p

More info that was helpful to me regarding this topic.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339

[Furiousflea]

I'm trying to do a test to see if the Sony BDP-S550 can play PIP tracks on DVD5\9\BD25 by using BD-Rebuilder to compress the video to a stupidly low level for the main movie only. Then extracting the AC3 audio tracks seperately and compressing them again. Then remuxing back into the m2ts.

By doing so I have managed to get resident evil full disc to fit on a DVD9 but the trouble is that the resulting m2ts isn't getting output correctly by tsmuxer 1.9.9.

The PIP track is "track 1" and the main video track is "track 2", in the original m2ts. But when I save my newly created m2ts and load it back to check it's got the correctly mapped streams in the right order...

The main video track is now "track 1" and the PIP track is "track 2"

Result = no video is played when I go to start main movie, I believe due to this incorrect swapping of tracks.

[rebkell]

Something I've always wondered about tsmuxer is why the PTS stamps for the audio and video streams start at the 10 minute mark?

[deank]

No one said that PTS is the real-time value of when things appear on screen. There is also a DTS stamp which in combination with PTS makes things work.

Here is more if you need to know about PTS:


PTS (presentation time stamp) -- Presentation times shall be related to decoding times as follows:

The PTS is a 33 bit number coded in three separate fields. It indicates the time of presentation, tpn(k), in the
system target decoder of a presentation unit k of elementary stream n. The value of PTS is specified in units of
the period of the system clock frequency divided by 300 (yielding 90 kHz). The presentation time is derived
from the PTS according to equation below.

PTS( k) = ((system clock frequency * tpn ( k)) DIV 300 ) % 2^33


where clock freq should be ~ 27000000 (+/- 800).

[rebkell]

No one said that PTS is the real-time value of when things appear on screen. There is also a DTS stamp which in combination with PTS makes things work.

Here is more if you need to know about PTS:



where clock freq should be ~ 27000000 (+/- 800).

I only wondered why it starts at the 600 second mark, most streams I've seen start pretty close to 0, I wasn't saying it was wrong, just wondered why?

[tekmobile]

I'm trying to do a test to see if the Sony BDP-S550 can play PIP tracks on DVD5\9\BD25 by using BD-Rebuilder to compress the video to a stupidly low level for the main movie only. Then extracting the AC3 audio tracks seperately and compressing them again. Then remuxing back into the m2ts.

By doing so I have managed to get resident evil full disc to fit on a DVD9 but the trouble is that the resulting m2ts isn't getting output correctly by tsmuxer 1.9.9.

The PIP track is "track 1" and the main video track is "track 2", in the original m2ts. But when I save my newly created m2ts and load it back to check it's got the correctly mapped streams in the right order...

The main video track is now "track 1" and the PIP track is "track 2"

Result = no video is played when I go to start main movie, I believe due to this incorrect swapping of tracks.

Have you told TsMuxer that the PiP video track is secondary via the command line version or are you just doing everything from the gui

[Furiousflea]

Have you told TsMuxer that the PiP video track is secondary via the command line version or are you just doing everything from the gui

ooooh, naughty me. I hadn't even tried the command line. Thanks for the pointer will give that a shot :)

[Underground78]

@roman76r

I have a m2ts that TsMuxer does not load correctly. It gives this message :

http://g.imagehost.org/t/0592/error_2.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0592/error_2)

Here a sample of the file (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2a2137fa62794d120f83d91f6dff7c382c754dd767f357b1c95965eaa7bc68bc), I hope it could help.

Thanks a lot for your work !

[fifteen]

Question about chapter locations:

How do I avoid rounding errors for the exact location of chapters:

for instance, if a video is encoded at exactly 24 fps.

each frame is

41.666666666666666666666666666667 ms long

when setting chapter locations, if I know the frame count of the IDR frame, do I round up/down when calculating the chapter time for the desired format of 00:00:00.000

are chapter locations for bluray in fact set at frames or in a time count like tsmuxer wants it?

for example, for a a single frame would the chapter point be
00:00:00.041
or
00:00:00.042
Am I making sense?

[frank]

Some times it is necessary to set the color of subtitle stream to a different one from white because of hard coded white subs.

The color table of GUI is mismatched. If you want to set yellow then tsMuxeR GUI only sets the green component!
0x0000ff00 instead of 0x0000ffff

AFAIK the problem exists since the layout change of GUI in version 1.8.30.

[deank]

are chapter locations for bluray in fact set at frames or in a time count like tsmuxer wants it?

Chapter locations are set in PTS format (time) and allow about 2 packet entry points per millisecond.

I think the difference between 00.001 and 00.002 is exactly 2 192byte (if consecutive and video only) packets in the m2ts stream.
For the most precise entry point you need to know which is the closest packet with IDR. I don't think 1 millisecond off makes much difference

To avoid rounding with large frame numbers, don't start with ms per frame but, let's say you need a chapter mark at 1h 31m 16s 450 (or frame 131435 with 24fps)

1*3600 + 31*60 + 16 + 0.450 = 5476.45s = frame# 131435

so going backwards:

frame 131435 / 24fps = 5476.45th second = /3600 = 1hr ... 1876.458s/60 = 31m ... 0.274306/60 = 16sec... ~450-455ms

and you'll get max 2-3ms difference which is just 4-5 m2ts packets.

[turbojet]

Since 1.9.8 bluray output writes the nav command 'Move GPR 0, 0' twice in movieobject.bdmv. Is this intentional?

[b66pak]

the format flags in .srt are respected in the latest builds?

<b>bold</b> sould be displayed as bold

<i>italic</i> sould be displayed as italic
_

[regisso]

I never tried bold but italic works fine.

[pleinlesyeux]

Hi.

I have a question.

A BD where the main movie is 00000.m2ts

I demux it (ac3to). I change subtitle position (BDsup2sub). I remux it with every audio and subtitle channel that were on the original 00000.m2ts but i swap the existing subtitles with the one I created.

I remux using 00000.m2ts as a name and replace it in the original BD structure.

The BD would boot, show me the menu, but wouldn't play the main movie.

Does anybody knows why ? Is there a way to do that ?
What software can I analyse and modify .m2ts with ?

Thank you.

[laserfan]

Leaving the .m2ts alone, you should try replacing the .mpls (PLAYLIST) and .clpi (CLIPINF) in the original BD structure with the ones that tsMuxeR made. I think OTTOMH that tsmuxer would have made 00000.xxxx filenames, so you shouldn't have to edit those, but if not a simple hex editor may show the way.

[roman76r]

I almost finish MP4/MOV support in tsMuxeR.
Now I have tested codecs:
- AVC video
- AAC audio
- AC3 audio
- text subtitles
Also I have fix problem with AAC in MKV container.
Now this version is needed in addition testing with more codecs.

While new version has alpha status:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.0(a).zip

[cullinan]

i almost finish mp4/mov support in tsmuxer.
Now i have tested codecs:
- avc video
- aac audio
- ac3 audio
- text subtitles
also i have fix problem with aac in mkv container.
Now this version is needed in addition testing with more codecs.

While new version has alpha status:
www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer/tsmuxer_1.10.0(a).zip
спасибо тебе огромное!!!...

[rica]

спасибо тебе огромное!!!...

Pardon me? Where am i?

[SeeMoreDigital]

I almost finish MP4/MOV support in tsMuxeR.
Now I have tested codecs:
- AVC video
- AAC audio
- AC3 audio
- text subtitles
Also I have fix problem with AAC in MKV container.
Now this version is needed in addition testing with more codecs.

While new version has alpha status:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.0(a).zipGreat work Roman...

So far I've tested: _

AVC with AAC in MP4
AVC with AAC in MOV
AVC with AC3 in MP4
AVC with AC3 in MOV
AVC with AAC and AC3 in MP4
AVC with AAC and AC3 in MOV

All working well. Nice to see the "stream" level signalling is kept in-tact too :)

[[)370|\|470!2]

Pardon me? Where am i?

Lost in translation, haven't you, eh? :D

[roman76r]

Underground78
I have a m2ts that TsMuxer does not load correctly. It gives this message
It is TS file, but the file extensing is M2TS. It is wrong. Try to rename file and try again.

rica
Pardon me? Where am i?
It is Russian. :)

SeeMoreDigital
Tnaks for tests. Also I have tested MP3 codec in MP4 and MOV and test working too.

[Underground78]

Underground78

It is TS file, but the file extensing is M2TS. It is wrong. Try to rename file and try again.

Yes, you are right ! It seems that my hauppauge hd pvr does not use the good extension. Is it possible to make TsMuxer detecting this automatically ?

[roman76r]

Is it possible to make TsMuxer detecting this automatically ?
Yes it is possible. Now ts Muxer can automatically detect M2TS files renamed to TS. So need a similar function for TS files renamed to M2TS.

[rapscallion]

спасибо тебе огромное!!!...

English :Thanks a lot

[mariner]

Greetings Roman. This is splendid.

Here are some 1920x1080/60P H264/AAC .mp4 samples for your testing.

http://www.sanyo-dsc.com/products/lineup/dmx_hd2000/img/sample/movie_sample_hd2000_01.zip
http://ckworks.sakura.ne.jp/data/xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_1_mp4.zip
http://88.191.20.67/video/akiba/SANYO_HD2000_1920x1080_60fps.zip

Thanks and best regards.

Greetings Roman. Many thanks for adding the new features.

This is the error message generated:

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.0(a) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.2 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame

rate: 59.9401
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=59.9401
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AAC stream (track 2): Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 1040 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist

Unsupported media type 15 for AVCHD/Blu-ray muxing

Many thanks and best regards.

[deank]

@mariner: You can't use AAC audio for AVCHD/Blu-ray output. It is not a supported codec.

спасибо тебе огромное!!!...

or just "Thanks a lot!" :) or "Огромно благодаря" :) in Bulgarian.

[mariner]

Greetings Dean.

Roman has added support for AAC audio in the latest version, and this feature tested well according to SMD.

As I did not find any check box for AAC to AC3 conversion , is this to be done automatically?

[Underground78]

Yes it is possible. Now ts Muxer can automatically detect M2TS files renamed to TS. So need a similar function for TS files renamed to M2TS.

Oki, thanks a lot ! :)

[deank]

Greetings Dean.

Roman has added support for AAC audio in the latest version, and this feature tested well according to SMD.

As I did not find any check box for AAC to AC3 conversion , is this to be done automatically?

Yes, he added support for muxing to TS/M2TS but it can't be used in bluray. SMD's tests were with files, not structures. I doubt tsmuxer will convert the audio - it is a muxer, not convertor.

[mariner]

Yes, he added support for muxing to TS/M2TS but it can't be used in bluray. SMD's tests were with files, not structures. I doubt tsmuxer will convert the audio - it is a muxer, not convertor.

Thanks for clarifying Dean.

Does media type 15 refer to AAC audio?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yes, he added support for muxing to TS/M2TS but it can't be used in bluray. SMD's tests were with files, not structures. I doubt tsmuxer will convert the audio - it is a muxer, not convertor.Yep that's correct ;)

That said, although the AVCHD SD card specification supports just AC3 and LPCM audio, I'd be willing to see if MP3 or AAC can be made to work :eek:

[Mtz]

Request: posibility to add many files when using the "Join" feature, not only one by one. If I want to join 50 files, will be a hard manual work.

Another thing: I made a small test with M2TS containing 1 SUP. Added another SUP and one SRT file. When Playing in MPCHC, the exported M2TS showed only 2 subtitles (the SUP subtiles) and not the third made from SRT.

enjoy,
Mtz

[fifteen]

joined m2ts files (AVC/PCM audio) don't seem to play properly in VLC 1.00 git. If,however they are joined and put into Bluray structure they can be played back fine.

I find it it curious that the individual m2ts files play fine on their own. But when they are joined VLC 1.00 git doesn't play them back properly.

Can someone explain? At first, I thought it must but be a player issue, but that version VLC never has a problem with unjoined M2ts. My shot in the dark : Is there header information that is not being created properly when joining files?

[drpaulng]

ROMAN:

When importing a movie.mp4 containing AAC, an error message pops up with tsMuxeR GUI 1.10.0(a):

Error: moov atom not found

Please...

[SeeMoreDigital]

ROMAN:

When importing a movie.mp4 containing AAC, an error message pops up with tsMuxeR GUI 1.10.0(a):

Error: moov atom not found

Please...Try re-muxing your .MP4 with YAMB.

[roman76r]

drpaulng
Error: moov atom not found
Can you send me short example of this file? First several Mb is enought.

[deank]

Roman,

can you take a look at this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1275156&postcount=3350) few pages back?

[Mtz]

drpaulng

Can you send me short example of this file? First several Mb is enought.
I'm not drpaulng but I have a sample file with this error: http://uploaded.to/file/uvvcio

enjoy,
Mtz

[drpaulng]

drpaulng

Can you send me short example of this file? First several Mb is enought.

SENT THROUGH http://www.smlabs.net SUPPORT EMAIL

Thank you in advance

[roman76r]

deank
TsMuxer detect fps from H.264 stream.
In last update with MP4 support, I've also add detecting fps from MP4 container because many AVC streams in MP4 does not contains fps field in video stream. Seemingly mediaInfo can detect fps from TS/M2TS container too.

[deank]

The problem is the following:

1) Use input MKV for example (or m2ts)
2) tsMuxeR detects properly fps and creates m2ts file

FPS of the file created in step 2) is no longer recognized by tsMuxeR. I'm trying to manually set the FPS but tsMuxer will not accept it and will not set it in the output stream.

3) I need to be able to reprocess the m2ts from step 2) to create another m2ts for example.

[Lacix]

If I use formatted subtitles in srt format the result is not formatted.
E.g. I see in the result :
<I>Blabblablbla ... </I>

Am I making some mistakes or are Italic/Bold formating parts in srt not supported ?

btw. Thx for the great product. I'm making easily PS3 compatible AVCHD disks with it.

[deank]

Try to make them <i> and </i> - lower case, not <I></I>

[ultratoto14]

@Roman
I've got a problem when joining 2 m2ts file (h264+ac3) with audio delay each, the joined file is out of sync.

[Amour]

Hello,

I'm new using this software. I was looking for a solution to play my movies with freeplayer, and I was adviced to look here. Unfortunatly, whenever I try to open an .mkv file with tsMuxeR GUI 1.8.4, I always get the following error message:
Some tracks not recognized. This tracks was ignored.

Here is my list of ignored tracks:
* video V_REAL/RV40
* audio A_VORBIS
* audio A_AAC/MPEG4/LC/SBR (some of them)
* subtitles S_TEXT/ASS
* subtitles S_VOBSUB

As 100% of my .mkv files will use at least one of those, that makes 0% of them usable with tsMuxeR. At most it will find 1 audio xor 1 subtitles, but never multiple audio or a combination of audio&subtitles. When the file is RV40+VORBIS+VOBSUB, not a single track is recognized.

Also, the drag&drop doesn't work to add a file to tsMuxeR.

[mrr19121970]

tsMuxeR GUI 1.8.4

:rolleyes: what about older versions ?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1278505#post1278505

[roman76r]

Amour
- AAC codec supported in the latest versions.
- subtitles S_TEXT/ASS and subtitles S_VOBSUB probably will be supported in future.
- V_REAL/RV40 and A_VORBIS can't be supported for TS

Lacix
If I use formatted subtitles in srt format the result is not formatted
I fix it. Now tsMuxeR recognize <i>, <I> and <italic> (in any case), similar changes for <b> (<B>, <bold>) and <u> (<U>, <underline>) tags.
Also, muxer supports <strike> and <font [color=[0x|#]xxxx] [size=[+|-]xx] [name="xxxxx"] > tags for text formatting.

New version is here:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.1(b).zip

Mtz
I've fix this error - version 1.10.1(b) can open your MP4 example. But both codecs H.263 and ADPCM are not supported.

deank
I can't reproduce your problem. Can your send me short sample?

[BlackJack1]

Roman

Did you fixed "freezing during minimizing to tray" and "wrong custom subtitle color - always green" bug in new version...?

[Amour]

:rolleyes: what about older versions ?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1278505#post1278505

Because 1.8.4 was the latest according to the first post of the topic.
I saw “Last edited: 25th April” and I thought it was good. I only forgot to check the year...
I'll test 1.10.1 to see if it handles AAC better.

[roman76r]

BlackJack1
Did you fixed "freezing during minimizing to tray" and "wrong custom subtitle color - always green" bug in new version...?
Freezing is fixed (this bug in version 1.9.9 only), problem with subtitles color does not appears in my tests.

[BlackJack1]

problem with subtitles color does not appears in my tests.

Try to choose any custom color from palette. When you hit "ok" and reenter to color choosing tab always "light green" color is present. Only standard white remains when reenter one more time...
How to clear custom color palette? When I delete all "tsmuxer" folder and install new version custom colors are remaining...

[drpaulng]

Roman,
srt to presnetation graphic conversion is only possible for fonts with enlgish (roman) names. for example, the chinese fonts although is selected, cannot be converted. The only way to make it work is to "hack" the chinese font by renaming it into english with some font-software. Can you fix it by allowing non-roman fonts as input?

Thanks.

[turbojet]

I notice 1.10.1 keeps AUXDATA in AVCHD mode, is this intended?

[roman76r]

turbojet
I have report, what some players does not works with AVCHD without empty folders. On the other hand some Samsung players does not opened AVCHD with empty folders. So, in version 1.10.1 I make "mix".
The following empty folders were removed:
BDMV/META
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The following folders are created in AVCHD mode:
CERTIFICATE/BACKUP
BDMV/AUXDATA

drpaulng
srt to presnetation graphic conversion is only possible for fonts with enlgish (roman) names.
It is problem in Linux or Windows version?

[turbojet]

turbojet
I have report, what some players does not works with AVCHD without empty folders. On the other hand some Samsung players does not opened AVCHD with empty folders. So, in version 1.10.1 I make "mix".
The following empty folders were removed:
BDMV/META
BDMV/BDJO
BDMV/JAR
BDMV/BACKUP/BDJO

The following folders are created in AVCHD mode:
CERTIFICATE/BACKUP
BDMV/AUXDATA

Interesting, I think the AUXDATA directory could be the key from past experiences but I never thought of the mix. I will try to test with a samsung player. Also I noticed someone reported samsung has 'fixed' the 1500 to play with and without AUXDATA in the latest firmware a few days.

Oh do you have any plans on adding some command line parameters to tsmuxergui?

tsmuxergui <input> would make open with work correctly.
some others I had thought of are:
</avchd> outputs an avchd in source directory with optional output
</bluray> outputs bluray in source directory with optional output
examples:
tsmuxergui C:\movie.mkv /avchd would output avchd to C:\BDMV
tsmuxergui C:\movie.mkv /bluray C:\BD would output bluray to C:\BD\BDMV

[drpaulng]

turbojet
drpaulng

It is problem in Linux or Windows version?

Windows version: The workaround is here:
http://www.hd.club.tw/thread-10807-1-1.html

and here:
http://www.mysilu.com/thread-299907-1-1.html

[rack04]

Oh do you have any plans on adding some command line parameters to tsmuxergui?

Never heard of CLI parameters for a GUI. I use a batch file that I created to generate a tsMuxeR meta file and mux.

[laserfan]

Since 1.9.8 bluray output writes the nav command 'Move GPR 0, 0' twice in movieobject.bdmv. Is this intentional?@roman76, this oddity is still in 1.10.1(b)
...
No. 0001, 50400001, 00000000, Move GPR0, 0
No. 0002, 50400001, 00000000, Move GPR0, 0
...

Also, tsMuxeR output always concludes with Jump Title 1. Can't this be changed instead to just "Break", rather than always looping-back to the beginning of the movie and starting again.

[turbojet]

Never heard of CLI parameters for a GUI. I use a batch file that I created to generate a tsMuxeR meta file and mux.

Really?
I imagine almost every app you use has at least one which is input otherwise open with doesn't work.

ImgBurn and MPC-HC are some examples of gui's in this forum that have pretty full featured cli.

But maybe you meant frontend gui?

The main reason I would like the /avchd and /bluray switch is one click output from context menu. Call me lazy, but I like things as effecient as I can get them and I heavily rely on context menus.

[deank]

I think he meant that he never heard that tsmuxerGUI supports parameters - not GUIs in general :)

[turbojet]

Ya perhaps, I don't recall any ever being mentioned either.

When cutting while if the start isn't at the beginning it processes the whole file without cutting. I tried video only, audio only, subs only, video+audio, video+subs, audio+subs with all 5 outputs including demux with 1.9.9 and 1.10.1.

[n00bleader]

how come when remuxing into AVCHD the size comes out larger. For a 3.76GB file it got remuxed into 4.15GB

[deank]

It becomes larger because you're a n00b leader and don't care to look around for an answer. :)

m2ts files have overhead (+4% to +10% or more) depending on your audio and subtitle tracks. There is no way around it if you want AVCHD/BDMV.

[n00bleader]

heh...okie...
That was a polite answer at least :D.

[drpaulng]

n00leader,

Just take a look at the .ts and m2ts(mts) files, compare them yourself and you'll find out why?
192byte vs 188 byte packet size:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream
read down the lines and you'll find the following passage:
Random-access based systems may save data packets into a temporary buffer if a storage device is not ready, for example on device startup. Packets are written out of order, and to keep track of them, a 4-byte timecode (TC) is added to standard 188-byte packets. The result is a 192-byte packet. This is what is informally called M2TS stream. Sony calls it "BDAV MPEG-2 transport stream". JVC calls it TOD (possibly an abbreviation for "Transport stream on disc") when used in HDD-based camcorders like GZ-HD7.[8] M2TS transport stream is also used for AVCHD video files, which often have MTS extension.

[rack04]

But maybe you meant frontend gui?

The main reason I would like the /avchd and /bluray switch is one click output from context menu. Call me lazy, but I like things as effecient as I can get them and I heavily rely on context menus.

Yes that is what I meant. My mistake.

[ultratoto14]

I found a problem with 1.9.9:
-use AVCHD output for a non-cropped video
-uncheck the playlist for cropped video
-Burn to dvd and put it in PS3

with 1.8.8 when i hit square, i can see video of each minute in PS3 but now, the video restart at the beginning, immediately after i put square.

[deank]

You're confusing AVCHD playback mode with direct XMB m2ts playback. There is nothing wrong with tsMuxeR. It is you who forgot what you did before ;)

[n00bleader]

I was wondering, does cropped video work both for height/width when creating AVCHD. So lets say you have a 1916x800, vs a 1920x800, and do you have to add any special options or it automatically recognizes and adds the blank video in the command line

[turbojet]

I was wondering, does cropped video work both for height/width when creating AVCHD. So lets say you have a 1916x800, vs a 1920x800, and do you have to add any special options or it automatically recognizes and adds the blank video in the command line

What it does is play a 1920x1080 video file before the cropped video which seems to fool some players. The option is very new and not well tested if it works or not some are trying to keep the results of it here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339) along with other outputs.

[espero]

Hi,

I think I need help with tsMuxeR. I have a Sony SR11 AVCHD camcorder and would like to join all mts to one big file.
I used option m2ts muxing and I have joined file which I cant play on my PC (only first shot is played, nothing more). I find out that tsMuxeR only joins files in the same way I can join them i. e. in Total Commander. Is it possible to make such option to join them frame by frame to one big file?

Thank you for answer,
Peter

[ultratoto14]

You're confusing AVCHD playback mode with direct XMB m2ts playback. There is nothing wrong with tsMuxeR. It is you who forgot what you did before ;)

False alarm, i tried old films previously burned and this is the same behavior. Sorry.

[setarip_old]

@espero

Hi!

In "tsMuxeR", are you selecting "Add" or "Join"?

[Blackwater]

Hi,

I think I need help with tsMuxeR. I have a Sony SR11 AVCHD camcorder and would like to join all mts to one big file.
I used option m2ts muxing and I have joined file which I cant play on my PC (only first shot is played, nothing more). I find out that tsMuxeR only joins files in the same way I can join them i. e. in Total Commander. Is it possible to make such option to join them frame by frame to one big file?

Thank you for answer,
Peter

You can use TSSplitter which has the option for you to joint AVCHD files from your HD camcorder.

[espero]

@espero

Hi!

In "tsMuxeR", are you selecting "Add" or "Join"?

Thanx for answer :)
Add :) OK, I will use Join.
Is it possible to Join multiple files? I have 790 files to join, doing it by hand is very hard... Why isn't possible to select them all together?

[espero]

You can use TSSplitter which has the option for you to joint AVCHD files from your HD camcorder.

Thank you for your answer. I tried to use TSSplitter but it causes that audio goes faster than video :(

[SquallMX]

I found a GUI bug (only series 1.9.x), if I chose yellow color for a subtitle track, the GUI writes "0x0000ff00" in the cmd instead of "0x00ffff00" resulting in a green subtitle track.

:helpful:

[BlackJack1]

roman76r wrote:
problem with subtitles color does not appears in my tests

...but I found too this bug.
BlackJack1 wrote:
Add subtile in SRT format. Try to choose any custom color from palette. When you hit "ok" and reenter to color choosing tab always "light green" color is present. Only standard white remains when reenter one more time...


So now I'm not alone.....
Can anyone else check this and confirm please?

[ultratoto14]

Just a remark, could it be possible to uncheck the 1900 playlist by default and set it automatically only when the video is 1920 but not by 1080 ?

[DoomBot]

I need some help i have a movie with demuxed files 1 avc and 1 truehd file and i want to mux them together, the truehd is labeled .thd and the problem is tsmuxer doesnt except that .thd should it be something else for it to use the audio file?

[Nullity]

I need some help i have a movie with demuxed files 1 avc and 1 truehd file and i want to mux them together, the truehd is labeled .thd and the problem is tsmuxer doesnt except that .thd should it be something else for it to use the audio file?

Try running it through eac3to:

eac3to audio.thd audio.thd+ac3

[DoomBot]

the thing is i use eac3to and more GUI by Yraen and im not good with the other way of doing it, i need a GUI but with what im using it only has .thd

I didnt know that i was demuxing the truehd without the 640kbps core by doing .thd so will i still somehow be able to mux with video and have a player see it even though it doesnt have the core? meaning any Blu-ray player or receiver

[Chumbo]

Hello roman76r
...This file is 1280*720p 60. I would like to change the framerate to 60000/1001.
...
I would like to add a request for 60000/1001 to the "Change fps" list too please. Thank you.

[Nullity]

the thing is i use eac3to and more GUI by Yraen and im not good with the other way of doing it, i need a GUI but with what im using it only has .thd

I didnt know that i was demuxing the truehd without the 640kbps core by doing .thd so will i still somehow be able to mux with video and have a player see it even though it doesnt have the core? meaning any Blu-ray player or receiver

It needs the AC3 core for tsMuxer to recognize it. I have never used that GUI, so I don't know if it supports this conversion. The code I posted is exactly the command you need to run, just replace "audio.thd" with the name of your TrueHD file - it's a simple one.

[Quatre]

does the latest version of tsMuxeR (1.9.9 right?) keep the srt subs when remuxing from mkv to .m2ts?

i know in the past when remuxing from .mkv to .ts while it lists the subs and i'd keep them checked they still wouldn't work when playing the .ts on the popcorn hour so i would have to extract them and add them as separate file.

i remmeber a new version awhile back of tsMuxeR saying that it works with srt subs so its just if they were something other then srt you would have to convert and then add as separate file but i still have never gotten the srt sub to be included in the new .ts file remuxed from mkv.

now i'm doing .m2ts. should the srt sub now work on the pch a-110? or no?

if not was i mistaken that tsMuxeR works with srt subs for some versions now? or is it just he pch wont play embedded srt subs with a .ts file and why i needed the sep file.

maybe wiht .m2ts embedded srt sub works on the pch?

i guess mabye its a question for the pch forums if embedded srt subs work with .ts or .m2ts, but i'm pretty sure it does so it was just tsMuxeR wasn't including the .srt subs in the new .ts file even though i have it checked.

i guess i will have to test now using newer version and doing .m2ts to see if in fact the embedded srt works or not and if not wil have to continue the extra step of adding it as a sep file.

let me know though

[mrr19121970]

the thing is i use eac3to and more GUI by Yraen and im not good with the other way of doing it, i need a GUI but with what im using it only has .thd

I didnt know that i was demuxing the truehd without the 640kbps core by doing .thd so will i still somehow be able to mux with video and have a player see it even though it doesnt have the core? meaning any Blu-ray player or receiver

Try Clown_BD...

[DoomBot]

Try running it through eac3to:

eac3to audio.thd audio.thd+ac3

Awesome i did what you said and it worked just took me awhile to type it out correctly thats what always gets me, i just havent done it that way in a very long time, always use the GUI.:thanks:

And yes mrr19121970 i will use Clown_BD for now on thankyou

[DoomBot]

When playing a movie with truehd through a receiver that can decode that does it even use the 640 core or only the thd?

[espero]

Hi,

I have a big request to the author of tsMuxeR. Please allow selecting multiple files while adding / joining files. Such feature would be very usefull for many people who wants to join i. e. 500 or 100 mts.

Thank you,

Peter

[duramaximus]

Is there a way tsMuxeR can demux a M2TS subtitle (PGS) to SRT instead of SUP?

Thanks,

Duramaximus

[odin24]

Is there a way tsMuxeR can demux a M2TS subtitle (PGS) to SRT instead of SUP?

Thanks,

Duramaximus


I Don't think so. Use SupRead.

[turbojet]

roman76r: There are reports of Samsung BD players still needing the AUXDATA directory deleted with tsmuxer 1.10.1 also PowerDVD needs all empty folders including certificate to play.

So basically 3 types of output is needed to support all players:
1) 0100+IDEX bdmv, all empty folders for everything but Samsung players
2) 0100+IDEX bdmv, no empty folders only for Samsung players
3) 0200 w/o IDEX, all empty folders only for VC-1 playback on Panasonic BD35/55

As 2 and 3 are rarely used wouldn't it make most sense to have them as clearly named options (Don't include empty folders for Samsung players only and Use bluray type output for Panasonic VC-1 only) in the gui that are saved in an ini along with the other settings and a switch in the meta instead of adding more output types?

As 1 would be by far the most widely used output wouldn't it make most sense that it's the only output type (avchd would be most accurate) along with ts and m2ts?

[Rodger]

CORRECTION!!!
Since the last FirmwareUpdate The BD-P2500 plays everything AVC perfectly fine!
So all my "bad burn" NOW do play!

[turbojet]

CORRECTION!!!
Since the last FirmwareUpdate The BD-P2500 plays everything AVC perfectly fine!
So all my "bad burn" NOW do play!

Did you use bluray or avchd output?

Is there BDMV\AUXDATA folder?

Reason I ask is someone confirmed that latest update for Samsung 1500 plays with BDMV/AUXDATA while all other Samsung players can't have that folder.

With any luck at all Samsung will update all their players firmware with this fix so there will be no need to ever delete empty directories. Unfortunately neither outputs in current TSMuxer follow this rule but 1.8.4 - 1.8.34 bluray output does.

[[)370|\|470!2]

I have a big request to the author of tsMuxeR. Please allow selecting multiple files while adding / joining files. Such feature would be very usefull for many people who wants to join i. e. 500 or 100 mts.

You're not telling us you're into backup of blurays on floppies, right? :devil:

[fifteen]

Chapter locations are set in PTS format (time) and allow about 2 packet entry points per millisecond.

I think the difference between 00.001 and 00.002 is exactly 2 192byte (if consecutive and video only) packets in the m2ts stream.
For the most precise entry point you need to know which is the closest packet with IDR. I don't think 1 millisecond off makes much difference

To avoid rounding with large frame numbers, don't start with ms per frame but, let's say you need a chapter mark at 1h 31m 16s 450 (or frame 131435 with 24fps)

1*3600 + 31*60 + 16 + 0.450 = 5476.45s = frame# 131435

so going backwards:

frame 131435 / 24fps = 5476.45th second = /3600 = 1hr ... 1876.458s/60 = 31m ... 0.274306/60 = 16sec... ~450-455ms

and you'll get max 2-3ms difference which is just 4-5 m2ts packets.


Sorry to bring up an old post, but I wanted more detail on this...

Example:

at frame 710 (24fps) there is an IDR frame and I want to set a chapter at that point. The time (start of frame time) in MS is : 29583.333333333333333333333333333

Shouldn't it make a difference if it is rounded down vs up?

If you round down to 29583 it is actually within the duration of frame 709. Is it not?

Should you always round up then ensure it is in fact within the IDR frame?

Does it make a difference?

[setarip_old]

@roman76r

Instead of being limited to manually typing, would you please add "Paste" capability to the "Metafile" window of "tsMuxeR", so that additional/different information can be readily added or used to replace?

Thank you.

[aygie]

hey guys

Sorry for the total noob question but how do i combine a MKV movie and SRT file? Everytime i stick them in TSMuxer i get the "Can't convert source text to UTF-32. Invalid chars sequence."

Thanks for the help. (Sorry if its been answered elsewhere)

[Rodger]

Did you use bluray or avchd output?

Is there BDMV\AUXDATA folder?

Reason I ask is someone confirmed that latest update for Samsung 1500 plays with BDMV/AUXDATA while all other Samsung players can't have that folder.

With any luck at all Samsung will update all their players firmware with this fix so there will be no need to ever delete empty directories. Unfortunately neither outputs in current TSMuxer follow this rule but 1.8.4 - 1.8.34 bluray output does.

See my post here, this is will answer all your questiones
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276549#post1276549

[roman76r]

new version of tsMuxeR is available: http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

Version 1.10.3:
* Added MOV/MP4 container support
* Added ability to scale PGS subtitles
* Added MPL file support
* Several minor bugs fixed

Also, I have added donate button.

[coolalibaba]

Thanks Roman for the new version. Is it possible to implement this feature in tsmuxer?
Put the subtitles in the black border at the bottom like dean did in MultiAVCHD when remux none standard resolution MKVs.

[drpaulng]

hey guys

Sorry for the total noob question but how do i combine a MKV movie and SRT file? Everytime i stick them in TSMuxer i get the "Can't convert source text to UTF-32. Invalid chars sequence."

Thanks for the help. (Sorry if its been answered elsewhere)

For fonts with more than 128 US-ASCII characters (chinese for example). tsmuxer may not be able to recognize them although being properly selected on the "Subtitles TAB" of tsMuxeR GUI. A workaround is to hack the font and change the name into "english" name that is recognized by tsMuxeR. You need the tool:

http://www.fontcreator.com/FontCreatorSetup.exe

Select through the Tools TAB,

Tools\Autorenaming\Font family name

Change the original name into english name, save the font as a new font (content not changed) and install. Select the newly named non-ASCII font in tsMuxeR now. It should work. I don't know if Roman could do something about it so that we can freely choose any font without working around.

REFERENCE:
http://www.hd.club.tw/thread-10807-1-1.html

[turbojet]

See my post here, this is will answer all your questiones
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276549#post1276549

Thanks, looks like Samsung is changing their firmware so AUXDATA can exist. One less problem to deal with.

new version of tsMuxeR is available: http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

Version 1.10.3:
* Added MOV/MP4 container support
* Added ability to scale PGS subtitles
* Added MPL file support
* Several minor bugs fixed

Also, I have added donate button.

Thanks for the new version.

Can you check this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1282576#post1282576) and at the least add back BDJO/JAR/META folders to avchd output?
Without them powerDVD and potentially Denon/Phillips players are broken. Adding them back in does not affect any players that already work.

Also I found some issues with resizing subs.

1. Resizing these colored subs (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m1t7m0) gives this error in tsmuxer 'Can't transform image to YUV: too many colors are used.'

2. The color palette of these subs (http://www.sendspace.com/file/asqg14) doesn't seem to be kept and some are white, some are black, some are in between.

3. With the same subtitles from #2 the subs position isn't quite right and sitting directly on the bottom of the screen. I don't mind it really but I could see it being a problem with some subs. See the lower right part of the 3 gui's also shows the different color palette issue described in #2

[deank]

tsMuxeR Version 1.10.3:
* Added MPL file support


Thanks for this feature. But the original MPLS import got broken.

[Emess]

Hey roman, should probably have posted this a while ago but every build post 1.7.3 has segfaulted on my system (Linux, Arch64, kernel 2.6.29, Qt 4.5.0) This happens on both the shared and full binaries. That's about all the information I can give unless you ahve something you'd like me to test.

E~

[deank]

Is it possible to implement this feature in tsmuxer: Put the subtitles in the black border at the bottom like dean did in MultiAVCHD when remux none standard resolution MKVs.

Have in mind that some players (like Nero and TMT) crash or not show subtitles at all when they are "moved" to the black bar. It may only work for PS3.

Dean

[ExSport]

Great Roman:D
One question, do you plan to support ASS subtitles(MKV container)?
Thanks for your great work and also donate button:)

[Discoboy]

Thanks for the new version.

Can you check this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1282576#post1282576) and at the least add back BDJO/JAR/META folders to avchd output?
Without them powerDVD and potentially Denon/Phillips players are broken. Adding them back in does not affect any players that already work.


@ turbojet,

I found that the latest PowerDVD’s players very strictly comply with AVCHD format!

Tests made TsMuxer 1.10.3 in AVCHD mode

If you burn the AVCHD ouput files to a DVD and play on PowerDVD, ALL versions of PowerDVD will play no problem and also on a SAP Panasonic BD35

If you make an ISO image of the AVCHD ouput files and mount on a virtual drive on the PC then play on PowerDVD only version 7.3.3119 or below will play it. Versions upto 9.0.1531 will NOT play it.

So it seems the latest versions of PowerDVD will only play AVCHD via DVD media

If add the following empty folders to your AVCHD output files:
BDMV: add “BDJO” + “JAR” + “META”
BDMV\BACKUP: add “BDJO”
Then make an ISO image of the AVCHD output files and mount on a virtual drive on the PC and then play on PowerDVD, ALL versions will play it

So I believe the problem is with PowerDVD very strictly complying with AVCHD format.

To prove this point a DTS 1.5Mbps sound stream is not officially supported in the AVCHD format and if used on a AVCHD burned DVD, PowerDVD’s after version 7.3.3119 will NOT play the DTS sound. If you instead make a ISO image + the missing folders with DTS sound, ALL versions of PowerDVD will play the sound

Regards
Discoboy

[psxiso]

So it seems the latest versions of PowerDVD will only play AVCHD via DVD media
Not true, you can choose to play AVCHD in PC by click on Select Source > Open movie file on hard drive disk.
However, it refuse to play when tsmuxer 1.8.4(b) create blu-ray disk, I must delete these empty folder (“BDJO” + “JAR” + “META”) and powerdvd9 let me play fine.

[turbojet]

Not true, you can choose to play AVCHD in PC by click on Select Source > Open movie file on hard drive disk.
However, it refuse to play when tsmuxer 1.8.4(b) create blu-ray disk, I must delete these empty folder (“BDJO” + “JAR” + “META”) and powerdvd9 let me play fine.

PowerDVD hasn't played from hard drive for over a year, far from the latest versions.

With 1.8.4 untouched output I can play from iso on powerDVD 9.0.1531. If I delete BDJO+JAR+META or any one of the 3 folders it says unsupported disk.

[roman76r]

turbojet
Can you check this post and at the least add back BDJO/JAR/META folders to avchd output?
Without them powerDVD and potentially Denon/Phillips players are broken. Adding them back in does not affect any players that already work.

Also I found some issues with resizing subs.

1. Resizing these colored subs gives this error in tsmuxer 'Can't transform image to YUV: too many colors are used.'

2. The color palette of these subs doesn't seem to be kept and some are white, some are black, some are in between.

3. With the same subtitles from #2 the subs position isn't quite right and sitting directly on the bottom of the screen. I don't mind it really but I could see it being a problem with some subs. See the lower right part of the 3 gui's also shows the

Deank
Thanks for this feature. But the original MPLS import got broken.

Fixed.
Please, test a new version 1.10.4: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.4.zip

P.S. When tsMuxeR scales subtitles, when parameters "bottom-offset" and "font-border" are also applicable. So, original bottom offset is not used.

[deank]

Thanks!

It works fine now!

[turbojet]

Thanks roman76r, those issues are fixed now.

i found two more issues with subs now though.

1. with these colored sups (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m1t7m0) from earlier there is an orange background that originally wasn't there and they are tough to read

2. Since every sub is sitting on the bottom border if they were originally placed anywhere else horizontally they are now sitting on the bottom. If you look at these subs (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0mjdmuwzmqt) between 2 and 5 minutes they are supposed to be at the top but resized they are at the bottom

Also when demuxing subs from a 1280x720 m2ts it resizes to 1920x1080 is this intended?
I would think every time you resize you lose quality and a little time.

keep up the good work

[Mirx]

I'm using 1.10.3 GUI
For some reason muxing fails when I use a .mpls as source. The error is: Can't find .m2ts file for stream F:\Underworld_3\BDMV\STREAM\00262.m2ts
If I select the m2ts instead of the .mpls everything works.
Meta file for muxing through .mpls:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:06:19.879;00:11:42.785;00:16:44.628;00:24:33.054;00:30:28.493;00:36:33.149;00:40:17.414;00:46:28.869;00:50:54.593;00:55:08.221;01:00:39.302;01:07:13.279;01:13:29.321;01:16:38.844;01:22:33.156 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\Underworld_3\BDMV\STREAM\00262.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, mplsFile=00450
A_AC3, "F:\Underworld_3\BDMV\STREAM\00262.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00450

Meta file for straight up .m2ts:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\Underworld_3\BDMV\STREAM\00262.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
A_AC3, "F:\Underworld_3\BDMV\STREAM\00262.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng

Directories are identical in the meta files, so I can't figure out why it's not accepting it...

[deank]

@Mirx: You could've taken a look few posts up.

[Mirx]

@Mirx: You could've taken a look few posts up.

Whoops, overread that one between subtitle and folder discussion...

[roman76r]

turbojet
Please, try new version: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.5.zip
Now I began to use information from Alpha channel of source PGS stream. It is solves 1-st problem. Also, I've chaned behaviour of "bottom-offset" option in scaling mode: now this options interpreted as addition vertical offset from original subs position.

Also when demuxing subs from a 1280x720 m2ts it resizes to 1920x1080 is this intended?
Try to change "Size" comboBox value in GUI.

[turbojet]

turbojet
Please, try new version: www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.5.zip
Now I began to use information from Alpha channel of source PGS stream. It is solves 1-st problem. Also, I've chaned behaviour of "bottom-offset" option in scaling mode: now this options interpreted as addition vertical offset from original subs position.

The position seems fixed on those and 2 other BD's I tested on. Thanks.

As for the colored subs the orange background is gone but the letters have red spots on them which makes it hard to read


Try to change "Size" comboBox value in GUI.

Oh I see now, if video isn't selected it defaults to 1920x1080 it looks like. Is there a way for it to use the current resolution if no video is selected?

Also since there is still 1 possibly 2 players that can't have that pesky AUXDATA directory is there a chance for an option to remove CERTIFICATE/BDJO/JAR/META directories? Maybe a checkbox defaulted off to the right of demux?

[roman76r]

turbojet
As for the colored subs the orange background is gone but the letters have red spots on them which makes it hard to read
Are you sure that is error? I think it is special effect in this subs.

[turbojet]

They should be solid yellow.

The same issue came up in BDSup2Sub awhile back and I believe it had to do with Cr/Cb

One other, I think simple, feature request I had from a few weeks ago is having an input command for tsmuxergui in CLI.
Example: 'tsmuxergui test.mkv' opens tsmuxergui and loads test.mkv
My main reason for this is open with working correctly like so many other windows gui's do. Is something like this possible?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Out of interest... How difficult would it be to include the ability to convert DVD style "idx/sub" subtitles to Blu-ray "sup" subtitles?

[Deepstar]

How difficult would it be to include the ability to convert DVD style "idx/sub" subtitles to Blu-ray "sup" subtitles?

This were great! I searching for a tool that have this ability!

[BlackJack1]

Thanks for new version.
Is possible to include button for forcing "turn on" subtitles on standalone players in Blu-ray format please?

[jefrey]

whats about an option like "always subtitle on" for some forced subs or if i wanna to have some subs forced, that they stay always on (can only switched of by remote)

[BlackJack1]

Agree. :)

Roman
Can you do this please...

[roman76r]

turbojet
Now, I've find a bug with color subtitles. Please, try again:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip
One other, I think simple, feature request I had from a few weeks ago is having an input command for tsmuxergui in CLI.
Added in this version.

All
I plan to add ASS/SSA and DVD subs as next feature.

[psxiso]

PowerDVD hasn't played from hard drive for over a year, far from the latest versions.

With 1.8.4 untouched output I can play from iso on powerDVD 9.0.1531. If I delete BDJO+JAR+META or any one of the 3 folders it says unsupported disk.

I'm playing AVCHD from hdd on powerdvd9 just fine. I assume you don't output an avchd video then put it in iso container then try to play it? because I play it by selecting the folder "BDMV", and if it playing fine such as audio sync ok and subtitle show, i'll then burn it to dvd.
There are actually 4 folders I must need to delete before powerdvd9 play output from tsmuxer 1.8.4:
BDJO+JAR+META+AUXDATA.

i'm using powerdvd 9.0.1501 ultra.

[SeeMoreDigital]

All
I plan to add ASS/SSA and DVD subs as next feature

You're most definitely "the man"...

[microchip8]

All
I plan to add ASS/SSA and DVD subs as next feature.

that's awesome. I've been waiting for DVD subs support for quite some time ;)

[turbojet]

turbojet
Now, I've find a bug with color subtitles. Please, try again:
www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip

Added in this version.

All
I plan to add ASS/SSA and DVD subs as next feature.

Thanks, both work great now.
DVD subs are dvd sup files?
Is vobsub input possible?
Dp you have any thoughts on 'strict AVCHD output' option which deletes the empty directories for a few players?

Also I see vertical offset affects sup files too, this could have some unwanted results for sup files.
Would it be possible to split srt and sup vertical offsets and set sup offset to 0 by default?


I'm playing AVCHD from hdd on powerdvd9 just fine. I assume you don't output an avchd video then put it in iso container then try to play it? because I play it by selecting the folder "BDMV", and if it playing fine such as audio sync ok and subtitle show, i'll then burn it to dvd.
There are actually 4 folders I must need to delete before powerdvd9 play output from tsmuxer 1.8.4:
BDJO+JAR+META+AUXDATA.

i'm using powerdvd 9.0.1501 ultra.

Oh I wasn't aware they brought back HDD playback but you are right it will play without those directories but only LPCM\AC3 audio.

[shon3i]

Adding support for DVD subtitles isn't good idea, because upscaling subtitles is same as upscaling DVD to BD.

[idbirch2]

Adding support for DVD subtitles isn't good idea, because upscaling subtitles is same as upscaling DVD to BD.What do you mean? Surely scaling subtitles from 480p to 1080p doesn't make them unreadable? I've never tried but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.

[shon3i]

What do you mean? Surely scaling subtitles from 480p to 1080p doesn't make them unreadable? I've never tried but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.
I mean like i said, quality of upscaled subs will be awful.

[roman76r]

turbojet
Would it be possible to split srt and sup vertical offsets and set sup offset to 0 by default?
Yes, I also thought about this. So I'll plan to move vertical offset parameter to the "track options" tab for sup subtitles.

Dp you have any thoughts on 'strict AVCHD output' option which deletes the empty directories for a few players?
Good idea.

DVD subs are dvd sup files?
Is vobsub input possible?
I mean dvd sup. Seemingly vobsub possible too, now I need to read more about bitstream syntax of these formats.

[idbirch2]

I mean like i said, quality of upscaled subs will be awful.As far as I'm concerned, the quality of a subtitle only needs to be such that I can read it, can't say I'm that bothered if the edges of the letters don't blow me away with their sharpness.

If you're making custom subs, DVD subtitles are much easier to create and are more likely to have been created already by someone else saving a lot of time. OK, so the quality might not be great but who cares if it's only 10-20 captions throughout the whole film.

Also, it's just a feature, it's not like you have to use it! If you don't need it or don't like it, fine but that isn't a reason to not give others the option.

[turbojet]

turbojet

Yes, I also thought about this. So I'll plan to move vertical offset parameter to the "track options" tab for sup subtitles.


Good idea.


I mean dvd sup. Seemingly vobsub possible too, now I need to read more about bitstream syntax of these formats.

Oh I forgot to mention a --strict or something in mux-opt of the meta file would be useful too.

As far as I'm concerned, the quality of a subtitle only needs to be such that I can read it, can't say I'm that bothered if the edges of the letters don't blow me away with their sharpness.

If you're making custom subs, DVD subtitles are much easier to create and are more likely to have been created already by someone else saving a lot of time. OK, so the quality might not be great but who cares if it's only 10-20 captions throughout the whole film.

Also, it's just a feature, it's not like you have to use it! If you don't need it or don't like it, fine but that isn't a reason to not give others the option.

I think srt is much better suited for this task but I couldn't agree more with you on having the option as well as having the option with vobsub from dvd that will look even worse but still readable.

Sort of unrelated is there currently isn't a direct BD sup -> DVD sup tool, let alone a tool that can encode BD to something playable in DVD players. It would be very useful for enthusiasts that are planning to upgrade to BD but not quite ready and currently buying DVD because they can only play it. Or people that already own a BD player but they also want to be able to play the movie on DVD players. I realize menus are more less impossible to convert but I'm surprised there's no movie only tool yet.

[SeeMoreDigital]

turbojetI mean dvd sup. Seemingly vobsub possible too, now I need to read more about bitstream syntax of these formats.As far as I was aware DVD sup and VOBsub (idx/sub) are the same thing, ie: graphics based subtitles... Is this not the case?


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

quite different...like srt vs ssa by example (both text formats but not the same syntax.)

[Mirx]

On the topic of subtitles, I find something about the .srt subtitle generation a bit off. I don't know if this has already been discussed before, but tsMuxeR calculates the off-set for the subtitles from the lowest point of the subtitle instead of a constant line. This means if you have a subtitle containing the characters “g j p q y” the subtitle will be placed higher.

This means the subtitles will differ in placement height, and that is not common practice for subtitles.
I usually place the subtitles in the black bar, and if it's a dual line subtitle have the upper one in the video, and the bottom one in the black bar (this is still possible with tsMuxer, although a configurable inter-line offset might be a nice addition). In this case you clearly see the subtitle moving up and down depending on the characters in the bottom line.

As for straight up DVD->BR subs, I'm also worried a bit about subtitle quality, and about how to sync them properly. My first vibe is that I would probably still OCR them to .srt, resync them, and generate a new subtitle track for the sheer joy of the better looking subtitles, but that's just me and the outcome might suprise me and make me change my mind...

[SeeMoreDigital]

quite different...like srt vs ssa by example (both text formats but not the same syntax.)Please confirm....

So given that a typical DVD's "elementary" video stream is say, .M2V. And the "elementary" audio stream is say, .AC3. What is the "elementary" subtitle stream type?


Cheers mate ;)

[Kurtnoise]

SUP format...;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

SUP format...;)That's what I thought...

That said, I wonder why our old friend DVD Decrypter elected to extract DVD subtitles as .SUB and not .SUP :(

[Discoboy]

Hello All,

Since version 1.10.4 or higher puts back the missing directories in the AVCHD output mode.

Question: What is now the actual difference between using the Blu-ray disk and AVCHD disk output mode buttons in the GUI to the files and directories created? :confused:

Many thanks

[turbojet]

Hello All,

Since version 1.10.4 or higher puts back the missing directories in the AVCHD output mode.

Question: What is now the actual difference between using the Blu-ray disk and AVCHD disk output mode buttons in the GUI to the files and directories created? :confused:

Many thanks

Blu-Ray writes blu-ray type index.bdmv which is V0200 and no IDEX, it also uses V0200 in clpi/mpls files. Writing this output on DVD won't play many BD players. Theoretically the same output on a BD should work on all players except for sharp but it's not well tested and I can see reasons why it might not, empty AUXDATA instead of something always in it on retail BD's.

AVCHD uses V0100 and IDEX which plays on all but sharp players.

The only reason I believe this new blu-ray output was created is to fix an issue with Panasonic BD35 and VC-1 video. So far that hasn't been reported to work or not work but theoretically it should work. Except for this certain case I'd really suggest using avchd ouptut even on BDR as it's well tested. But then again if blu-ray output is never used for BDR it will never be well tested.

[Discoboy]

@ turbojet :thanks:

[turbojet]

On the topic of subtitles, I find something about the .srt subtitle generation a bit off. I don't know if this has already been discussed before, but tsMuxeR calculates the off-set for the subtitles from the lowest point of the subtitle instead of a constant line. This means if you have a subtitle containing the characters “g j p q y” the subtitle will be placed higher.

This means the subtitles will differ in placement height, and that is not common practice for subtitles.
I usually place the subtitles in the black bar, and if it's a dual line subtitle have the upper one in the video, and the bottom one in the black bar (this is still possible with tsMuxer, although a configurable inter-line offset might be a nice addition). In this case you clearly see the subtitle moving up and down depending on the characters in the bottom line.

Strange I never noticed this until you mentioned it but it's definitely true even if it's only about 5 lines or so.

[deank]

[self censored]

Sadly... There are too many stubborn people around...

I'm not surprised that some people don't "receive the attention" they'd like to in other threads.

Dean

[turbojet]

[self censored]

Sadly... There are too many stubborn people around...

I'm not surprised that some people don't "receive the attention" they'd like to in other threads.

Dean

I'm confused, care to explain?

[nwg]

1.10.6 is now made public on the main site to download.

[deank]

1) Don't use software players to prove something is working or not (Sony, Panasonic and maybe Canon and JVC players carry the real weight). Who (?!) cares if a software player can play something, which is supposed to be played in your BD player?! (not to mention the ridiculous "program" called "PowerDVD").

2) Speculations about V1/V2 are unnecessary.

3) Speculations about various folders presence (or not) and demanding their presence (or not) in various outputs of some programs is just absurd.

idbirch2 posted few weeks ago that we need to make all () work up to the standards (and I can't agree more).

I wouldn't care less if a Samsung or Denon or Panasonic players programmers didn't care about their users' experience. They were asked to make (real) Blu-ray discs play, so they did.

You either use your player for what it's supposed to do or refrain of 'making rules'. (I guess sony BD 3xx will do).

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I kind of get p*s*ed off of reading posts with 'suggestions for improvement' or 'let us make it play in 57721 models of 4813 brands/players'...

If someone picked the wrong player - go buy another one and spare the troubles.

You can't make ALL work with the output of a single program as tsMuxeR. God! these won't EVEN ACCEPT (AVCHD) input from another (big brand) output and sometimes from it's own (but different model).

I wonder why there is no thread about SONIC and BPRINT compatibility. Or their output wasn't supposed to go to a 3c DVD-R?

Anyway... Even ORIGINAL RETAIL BLU-RAY DISCS won't play in some players without some "OTA" updates or WON'T PLAY AT ALL...

***

I won't post anything else on the subject - here or in any other thread. It seems to me it's a waste of time (and I wasted enough with this ridiculous post) to make my point, which is clearly misunderstood (to stress it out again - CAN'T MAKE all BDPs work (click) just like that).

I'd suggest that all create a "F*CKU" folder as a subfolder of BDMV. It should work - I tested it with AKAI, TELEFUNKEN and GOLDSTAR tape-blu-eye players - just write "BD" in the label sticker.


Funny story :)

Dean

[turbojet]

I share your frustration with the whole thing at times.

Some retail BD9's would solve mostly everything.

Looking around on various forums there may be more people relying on software BD players then hardware BD players and I don't think they should be ignored.

Frankly the more supported output (with all empty folders) should be default and who knows the way Samsung is going it could go from 1-2 AVCHD players that aren't supported to 0 within days/weeks.

Since manufacturers don't care about standards don't know why we should because they allow DTS/VC-1/HD audio on AVCHD with a few exceptions. If you want strict compliance of the standard look at PowerDVD, it's the most compliant. If all muxers moved towards AVCHD standard with no VC-1/DTS/HD audio with no empty directories the raging population would grow rapidly. Removal of empty folders already caused some rage from a majority of the many software player users. Just look on slysoft and you'll see what I mean.

[psxiso]

Oh I wasn't aware they brought back HDD playback but you are right it will play without those directories but only LPCM\AC3 audio.

I also found out recently that it won't play DTS, but doesn't matter, nero showtime is another alternate that can play avchd from hdd with ac3, lpcm, dts, subtitle.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I also found out recently that it won't play DTS, but doesn't matter....The lack of DTS support is probably a licensing cost issue.

From what I understand DTS re-structured their licensing costs to co-inside with the release of their HD audio formats for Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

[G_M_C]

Easy easy Deank, we all appreciate your work and Roman76's work. And "appreciate" is an understatement as far as i'm concerned.

The reason why Bprint and Sonic and so forth can create workable discs is simply cause they can shell out a shitload of money to buy the appropriate documentation and support from the Blu-ray association. We measly Open Source users have to make do with reverse engenering and/or simply trial and error programming.

As i said before in de BD-rebuilder thread; The lack of proper documentation is the problem. Whith proper documentation, we would understand how the standard works and how it is build up. Then we could make BD9's according to the proper standards, and because it is a standard; All our discs would work, no matter what brand/model.

So in the end it is the BR-association that's at fault (read: Sony corp.) because they threat the proper documentation as a classified document equal only to CIA-national-security-level-kind of documentation. Silly, cause the format would really take of if the userbase could grow faster :)

[turbojet]

I also found out recently that it won't play DTS, but doesn't matter, nero showtime is another alternate that can play avchd from hdd with ac3, lpcm, dts, subtitle.

The lack of DTS support is probably a licensing cost issue.

From what I understand DTS re-structured their licensing costs to co-inside with the release of their HD audio formats for Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

WinDVD acts the same way, only AVCHD from HDD. AVCHD can be moved from cameras to HDD legally.
However when you think about it why should it support pirates who rip BD to HDD?
Isn't preventing piracy one of the industries main goals?

Empty folders tricking players is silly but it's nothing new. Blank AUDIO_TS is needed in some DVD players, mainly sony.

[NoLd0r]

@roman76r

splitting and cutting time selection do not work in the tsMuxeR GUI 1.10.6

:thanks: for this great tool

[turbojet]

Splitting and cutting are working ok for me in 1.10.6 however I've ran into problems in past versions but I could never figure out why.

Could you mention what input type (m2ts, mkv, etc.)
What streams are in the input (H.264, VC-1, AC3, PGS, etc.)
Are you deselecting any streasm?
Output type and a split and cut setting that doesn't work and what happens when it doesn't work

[0xdeadbeef]

If you're making custom subs, DVD subtitles are much easier to create and are more likely to have been created already by someone else saving a lot of time. OK, so the quality might not be great but who cares if it's only 10-20 captions throughout the whole film.
Despite of its name, BDSup2Sub can also convert VobSub (SUB/IDX) to BD-SUP. Furthermore there are tool chains available to create high quality BD-SUPs from SRTs:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146488

[GreenOnyx]

Was the issue requiring eac3to to be ran after muxing a seamless branch mpls fixed? I swore that it was but I couldn't find the verification when I searched this thread or the changelog. I see that it was resolved in ToNMT, so maybe I'm thinking of that app instead. Any confirmation would be appreciated.

[NoLd0r]

Splitting and cutting are working ok for me in 1.10.6 however I've ran into problems in past versions but I could never figure out why.

Could you mention what input type (m2ts, mkv, etc.)
What streams are in the input (H.264, VC-1, AC3, PGS, etc.)
Are you deselecting any streasm?
Output type and a split and cut setting that doesn't work and what happens when it doesn't work

The cutting and splitting option working fine for me to, if I use the cmd line. The problem isn´t the container or codec... the problem is to change (or typing) the time-points in the GUI.

[Krawhitham]

1) Don't use software players to prove something is working or not (Sony, Panasonic and maybe Canon and JVC players carry the real weight). Who (?!) cares if a software player can play something, which is supposed to be played in your BD player?! (not to mention the ridiculous "program" called "PowerDVD").

2) Speculations about V1/V2 are unnecessary.

3) Speculations about various folders presence (or not) and demanding their presence (or not) in various outputs of some programs is just absurd.

idbirch2 posted few weeks ago that we need to make all () work up to the standards (and I can't agree more).

I wouldn't care less if a Samsung or Denon or Panasonic players programmers didn't care about their users' experience. They were asked to make (real) Blu-ray discs play, so they did.

You either use your player for what it's supposed to do or refrain of 'making rules'. (I guess sony BD 3xx will do).

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I kind of get p*s*ed off of reading posts with 'suggestions for improvement' or 'let us make it play in 57721 models of 4813 brands/players'...

If someone picked the wrong player - go buy another one and spare the troubles.

You can't make ALL work with the output of a single program as tsMuxeR. God! these won't EVEN ACCEPT (AVCHD) input from another (big brand) output and sometimes from it's own (but different model).

I wonder why there is no thread about SONIC and BPRINT compatibility. Or their output wasn't supposed to go to a 3c DVD-R?

Anyway... Even ORIGINAL RETAIL BLU-RAY DISCS won't play in some players without some "OTA" updates or WON'T PLAY AT ALL...

***

I won't post anything else on the subject - here or in any other thread. It seems to me it's a waste of time (and I wasted enough with this ridiculous post) to make my point, which is clearly misunderstood (to stress it out again - CAN'T MAKE all BDPs work (click) just like that).

I'd suggest that all create a "F*CKU" folder as a subfolder of BDMV. It should work - I tested it with AKAI, TELEFUNKEN and GOLDSTAR tape-blu-eye players - just write "BD" in the label sticker.


Funny story :)

Dean


You need to quit holding back and tell us how you really feel

[deank]

:D It just these late nights when I just want to say what I have to say - nothing more.

[microchip8]

:D It just these late nights when I just want to say what I have to say - nothing more.

Njakoi ti igrai po nerviti? :p

[deank]

Hahah :) Yeah... "someone's playing on my nerves"... No, it's all okay.

[G_M_C]

:D It just these late nights when I just want to say what I have to say - nothing more.

Coffee helps on those late nights, stronger tasting coffee even more ;)

[rica]

Coffee helps on those late nights, stronger tasting coffee even more ;)

I'd suggest some vodka :)

[rapscallion]

Ok, back to dumb questions.:D

[holding breath] I'm playing around with the original main movie *.m2ts file from The World Is Not Enough, which has DTS-HD audio. The movie is 2h 8m long, yet when I demuxe the audio track it ends up 2hr 7m long. If I check "downconvert to DTS" it demuxes to 2h 6m. (obviously they match in the original)

Are these descrepancies normal ? Because every other movie I've run through tsmuxer, NOT DTS-HD, the lengths match the movie. [/holding breath]

Edit : I'm asking because I don't want to go through a 10 hr encode only to find the audio
is out of sync.

Edit #2: Update -Well, when muxed back to the m2ts, the time was then right again and everything is in sync.

[poisondeathray]

Ok, back to dumb questions.:D

[holding breath] I'm playing around with the original main movie *.m2ts file from The World Is Not Enough, which has DTS-HD audio. The movie is 2h 8m long, yet when I demuxe the audio track it ends up 2hr 7m long. If I check "downconvert to DTS" it demuxes to 2h 6m. (obviously they match in the original)

Are these descrepancies normal ? Because every other movie I've run through tsmuxer, NOT DTS-HD, the lengths match the movie. [/holding breath]

Edit : I'm asking because I don't want to go through a 10 hr encode only to find the audio is out of sync.

It might be a better idea to use eac3to for the audio, which fixes audio gaps, and might be the cause of what you are observing

[rapscallion]

It might be a better idea to use eac3to for the audio, which fixes audio gaps, and might be the cause of what you are observing
So, is that a bug in Tsmuxer? (using latest ver)

[poisondeathray]

So, is that a bug in Tsmuxer? (using latest ver)

No, I wouldn't think of it as a bug. It's a feature of eac3to that other apps don't have. I thought most people here use eac3to for the audio as a given.

I'm not saying this is definitely what is going on with your case, it's just a possible explanation.

[rapscallion]

Ok, thanks for the response.....I'll go that route.

Edit : Extracted the DTS-HD and the DTS Core, using Eac3to and More gui, and still get a length mis match. There are several gui's available for Eac3to ,so a suggestion on which one is the best to use would be a big help.(or what I'm doing wrong) Thanks

[G_M_C]

Ok, thanks for the response.....I'll go that route.

Edit : Extracted the DTS-HD and the DTS Core, using Eac3to and More gui, and still get a length mis match. There are several gui's available for Eac3to ,so a suggestion on which one is the best to use would be a big help.(or what I'm doing wrong) Thanks

I'd suggest that you stay with the cli / commandline version. Read through the long help for all the options.

But this is based on my personal preference. I find that many of the GUI's are kind of complex in their use or in their interface. I think this is because EAC3to has so many options, in other words; Is such a versatile tool, that GUI's cannot compensate :D

[kalle2k3]

Was the issue requiring eac3to to be ran after muxing a seamless branch mpls fixed? I swore that it was but I couldn't find the verification when I searched this thread or the changelog. I see that it was resolved in ToNMT, so maybe I'm thinking of that app instead. Any confirmation would be appreciated.

For example, 2 overlaps found by eac3to3.16 on an BD, the same were found and removed by tsmuxer 1.10.6.

[rotty]

Has anyone found a way of getting tsmuxer to import txt subtitles. e.g. I have "The Mummy" region B, it has 68 subtitles, the first 32 (#0-#31) are PGS streams and are shown, the rest are txt subs, one of which is the English Forced subtitle, this is needed to make sense of the film. These are not shown and ignored by tsmuxer.
Obviously, whithout this forced subtitle the film is missing important information to the viewer.
If anyone has a way of accessing thiese subs I would be gratfull.

[GreenOnyx]

For example, 2 overlaps found by eac3to3.16 on an BD, the same were found and removed by tsmuxer 1.10.6.

Thanks for the info kalle2k3. I did see some removal of frame ouput lines, or something similar, during muxing, so I assume that's the overlaps being corrected. During playback I didn't notice any issues, though I'm not sure what to look for.

Appreciate the response.

[Nkotok]

Why does Custom Chapter list only shows chapter till 60 minute mark? It used to do the whole movie (all the chapters as on the original disk). Now on a back up I can not skip chapter beyond one hour mark.

[Capsbackup]

Why does Custom Chapter list only shows chapter till 60 minute mark?

If you select custom chapters, you need to enter the chapters that you want. If unselected, 5 minute chapters will be inserted for the entire movie length.( it only displays up to 1:00:00, but will insert chapters at that 5 min. interval for the entire movie length).

[kalle2k3]

Thanks for the info kalle2k3. I did see some removal of frame ouput lines, or something similar, during muxing, so I assume that's the overlaps being corrected. During playback I didn't notice any issues, though I'm not sure what to look for.

Appreciate the response.

I tried this with the latest BD from Pixar and it works. Whats interesting is, that eac3to needs 2 passes and tsmuxer does not.

[LHL-bLuECoDe]

An nooz question. With the split option, always makes one bluray folder and in the stream subfolder i find 2 mts files, one bigger (7900 GB) and the other a little one (the rest of the video). How i burn those files, separately? does it affects anything when i play on my standalone bluray? plz help me and sorry again for being nooz and my english.

[Nkotok]

If you select custom chapters, you need to enter the chapters that you want. If unselected, 5 minute chapters will be inserted for the entire movie length.( it only displays up to 1:00:00, but will insert chapters at that 5 min. interval for the entire movie length).

Really? Is it something new? Because before Custom Chapter list just displayed the chapter marks that were on the original disk. Isn't it what everybody wants most of the time anyway? Where is this feature now???

And as for It will insert chapters at 5 min interval for the entire movie - that is not what I had (maybe it was fixed). In my case I could not skip chapters on the recorded disk beyond 60 minutes. 60 minute was the last chapter and that is it.

[Nkotok]

An nooz question. With the split option, always makes one bluray folder and in the stream subfolder i find 2 mts files, one bigger (7900 GB) and the other a little one (the rest of the video). How i burn those files, separately? does it affects anything when i play on my standalone bluray? plz help me and sorry again for being nooz and my english.

You need to do the Cut (not the split) to make blu-ray structure for both files. If you stick with the Split. You need to take each file within the blu-ray structure you got and make another run through tsmuxer and make a blu-ray structure for each of them again.

[Capsbackup]

Really? Is it something new? Because before Custom Chapter list just displayed the chapter marks that were on the original disk. Isn't it what everybody wants most of the time anyway? Where is this feature now???

And as for It will insert chapters at 5 min interval for the entire movie - that is not what I had (maybe it was fixed). In my case I could not skip chapters on the recorded disk beyond 60 minutes. 60 minute was the last chapter and that is it.

If you open a bluray .mpls file, it will display the original chapters. If you open the .m2ts file, it will not. This is what I presumed as to your initial question. If I open a bluray .mpls file, all the original chapters are present & beyond the 60 min. time, to whatever the movie length is. But if I open the corresponding .m2ts file, I only see 5 min. chapter intervals up to 1:00:00.

[deank]

An nooz question. With the split option, always makes one bluray folder and in the stream subfolder i find 2 mts files, one bigger (7900 GB) and the other a little one (the rest of the video). How i burn those files, separately? does it affects anything when i play on my standalone bluray? plz help me and sorry again for being nooz and my english.

You can use popBD if you need to span to two dvd discs.

[Nkotok]

If you open a bluray .mpls file, it will display the original chapters. If you open the .m2ts file, it will not. This is what I presumed as to your initial question. If I open a bluray .mpls file, all the original chapters are present & beyond the 60 min. time, to whatever the movie length is. But if I open the corresponding .m2ts file, I only see 5 min. chapter intervals up to 1:00:00.

I see. Maybe I just screwed up myself and instead of mpls, opened m2ts files for the last several times.

Thanks for pointing this out.

[Nkotok]

You can use popBD if you need to span to two dvd discs.

But it does not do 2 BD25s, does it?

[LHL-bLuECoDe]

You can use popBD if you need to span to two dvd discs.

Yeah i know but when i have used popBD sometimes the result isnt recognize by the mpc home cinema, only plays sound but no video so i dont burn those files and try other method like tsmuxer, but i had the splt problem. i will tray de cut method in tsmuxer. Thanxs for your help.

[deank]

But it does not do 2 BD25s, does it?

It does any split you want.

[Nkotok]

It does any split you want.

Nice, will try it out soon. Thanks

[GreenOnyx]

I tried this with the latest BD from Pixar and it works. Whats interesting is, that eac3to needs 2 passes and tsmuxer does not.

Sounds like we're on the same movie. I believe I read somewhere that the first eac3to pass is to create a gap list/config file for the next pass, but again, I'm definitely not an expert.

Thanks again for your confirmation, and to roman. It's great to hear that there's one less thing to have to work around.

[mrr19121970]

i'm sure if madshi could process all the gaps, overlaps & clippings in one pass, then he would. so you should imagine that if tsMuxeR doesn't need 2 passes, then it does something quite different.

[turbojet]

In eac3to 3.16 you can use -no2ndpass but I don't know how effective it is.

Somewhere around 1.9.x I tried demuxing x-files 2 which is seamless branching and it produced a broken .264 file, eac3to and BD-RB worked ok.
Maybe things have changed in TSMuxer that missed the changelog since but if not I wouldn't put full trust in the method yet.

[Butterfly666]

Can please someone tell me how the option "add blank playlist for croppes video' works (insertBlankPL)?


The video is 1280*544, when I use this option checked, the movie is played in 480i on the screen. Instead of the green bar, I get a black bar...

[turbojet]

Can please someone tell me how the option "add blank playlist for croppes video' works (insertBlankPL)?


The video is 1280*544, when I use this option checked, the movie is played in 480i on the screen.

It inserts a short compliant m2ts, 1280x720 or 1920x1080 to play before the main m2ts. It fools some players, doesn't fool some others. Safest thing to do is encode at compliant resolutions.

[Sogetthis]

Hi. Thank you for this easy to use application. One thing that hasn't worked for me from the beginning though, is the addition of non-western subtitles, specifically, Arabic. I can add the srt file fine and it gives no error message but when I play the AVCHD, I get weird text, it looks arabic, but certainly not the text that is in the original srt file.

For some reason it works in MKV2VOB and I know it is using Tsmuxer as its backend. The author has said all his application does in order to allow arabic text to display correctly, is to convert it to utf-8. What I have done, is used MKV2VOB to add the srt into an AVCHD, demuxed the SUP file with Tsmuxer, then add the newly exported sup file into AVCHD by Tsmuxer. THIS WORKS.

So what I did, was convert the srt to utf-8 first, then add it into Tsmuxer to make an AVCHD. This still gives me weird characters so I don't know how the author of MKV2VOB has solved it.

To be honest, I would much rather use Tsmuxer as it allows multiple streams, supports VC-1 and MPEG2; all of which MKV2VOB does not support.

I hope I have explained the problem well and am happy to assist in anything you need.

Thanks!

[Butterfly666]

It inserts a short compliant m2ts, 1280x720 or 1920x1080 to play before the main m2ts. It fools some players, doesn't fool some others. Safest thing to do is encode at compliant resolutions.

Thanx for the info,

I tried it on the ps3 with non-compliant resolution movie but unfortunatly with no luck...

[coolalibaba]

Thanx for the info,

I tried it on the ps3 with non-compliant resolution movie but unfortunatly with no luck...
ps3 plays as 480i if video height is small than 584 whatever the width is. try other videos whose height is greater than 584.

[lostmonkey]

roman76r wrote:


...but I found too this bug.


So now I'm not alone.....
Can anyone else check this and confirm please?

I have checked this color issue under Windows XP SP3 on tsMuxeR version 1.10.6 and it is still there.

Using the subtitle palette "Select Color", I choose R:252 G:251 B:220. Then I confirm my choice with "OK".
In the "Subtitles" tab, the GUI ends up with the Color value "0x00dcfbdc" (R:220 G:251 B:220) where it should normally be "0x00fcfbdc". The "Meta file" below shows the same error.

The problem is already described in posts #3413 by frank, #3452 by BlackJack1 and #3481 by SquallMX : the B value from the palette overwrites the R value in the GUI. The R input from the palette is ignored. This usually gives a "greenish" color to your subs.

This issue prevents me for using latest versions of tsMuxeR GUI. Latest good for me is 1.8.4. I have been expecting a fix for quite a while now.
A workaround is to edit the META file color value and run the mux using the command line.

[Chumbo]

I'm using the current 1.10.6. Found a few problems/issues:

Drag and drop of multiple files does not work
add dialog does not allow selection of multiple files
adding multiple files one at a time processes like joining. I would assume if adding multiple files, then a mux operation of TS or M2TS would then create individual files of that format from each source added and not join them. So if I add a.mkv and b.mkv and select an output format of M2TS, then the mux operation would create a.m2ts and b.m2ts. At least, personally, I would prefer to have this for convenience.
when demuxing, it would be nice if the entire file name is used rather than up to the first period.


Thank you for considering this.

[ibabob]

I have been using TsMuxer to remux mkvs and Blu-ray rips to M2TS to put on my Mediatomb server and playback on the PS3.

I noticed that eventhough I often just remux Blu-rays with AVC video stream without doing any re-encoding, I still always have to switch my HDMI Range from Full to Limited on the PS3 when playing files created with TsMuxer, otherwise the movie is way darker than the original blu-ray which looks fine played with HDMI Range to Full.

Is this caused by TsMuxer ? Is there a way to fix it ? Cause it's a bit annoying to have to switch back and forth beetween Full and Limited on the PS3 depending on what I playback.

Thanks !

[deank]

I don't think it is an issue with tsMuxeR.

I also do a lot of switching between limited and full but it depends on the source (video) I play. Some files are encoded in Full-range (255 color range) and some in limited (16-240)...

[monotube]

Hello,
some problems here with Wall E seamless branching. I have used TS Muxer 1.10.1 to rebuild the BD format with only one m2ts file ( and only one audio file ). Now the PCH110 stops where there is the merge. Is it a known bug of TS Muxer ( or maybe of PCH110 )? I have tested the file with eac3to using -check function but I have not received any alarm. I also remuxed with 1.10.6 but with no success. Any help?

[mrr19121970]

Hello,
some problems here with Wall E seamless branching. I have used TS Muxer 1.10.1 to rebuild the BD format with only one m2ts file ( and only one audio file ). Now the PCH110 stops where there is the merge. Is it a known bug of TS Muxer ( or maybe of PCH110 )? I have tested the file with eac3to using -check function but I have not received any alarm. I also remuxed with 1.10.6 but with no success. Any help?

only demuxing with eac3to first will properly get rid of overlaps, gaps and clippings.

try clone_bd

[Tongariro]

Hello

I have a weird problem with the tsMuxer.
From some reason i have a problem muxing True-HD or DTS-HD and DTS-MA to m2ts file.

I check the the Audio file by it self and it is working(using powerDVD), also the H264 file is working as well. :confused:

The muxing successfuly completed by when i am trying to play the M2TS file (or by putting the BD in to my BD player) the video freezes.

I tryed all tsMuxer version from 1.8.4 to 1.10.6 with the same result.
I also tryed to demux the audio using eac3to instead of tsMuxer , agian same result.



:thanks:

I dont now what happens but it was working for me (few weeks ago) and suddenly i cant get it work.

Is anyone now what i am doing wrong?
I saw some post that mentioning that they dont have problem with true-HD.

[fifteen]

Some files are encoded in Full-range (255 color range) and some in limited (16-240)...

Is there a standard when encoding for Bluray? How can you detect whether a file is encoded with full-range or limited?

[turbojet]

roman76r: along with the split bottom offset (default to 0) for sup can you also include font border (deafult to 0) ?

[shisha]

Hello

& thank you for making this usefull utility.

I've been using it a few times, though I did notice some little problems with some titles like those ones :

- Underworld
- The Kingdom
- The mummy (the 3rd)
- The curious case of Benjamin Button

1) All of them have DTSHD MA tracks & the thing is I always get some numerical "clics" or "noises".

When I read the full rip (done with Anydvd) the DTSHD tracks play just fine.

2) After a few seconds or a few minutes, the movie just stops and/or freezes my player (HDI Dune BDPrime).

Again, this doesn't not happen with the full rip made with Anydvd, only when using Tsmuxer.

I found a "workaround" which seems to resolves both problems : ticking the "downconvert DTSHD to DTS".

It has worked for "the Kingdom" & "Underworld", & I tried just the beginning of the movie for the 2 others that I mentionned above as it seems to be working, I just stops because I didn't want to watch them at that time.

So, it's ok there is a workaround, but I was wondering if this was a known problem ?
or am I the only one "meeting" this cases ?

Are they other workaround that could allow to keep the DTSHD track rather than downconvert it.

I also for at least 2 of those movies did get the following message :
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3176/probtsmuxer.jpg

I didn't find some clear answer about it with the search function, but anyway the problem with DTSHD tracks doesn't seems to be (always) related to it as there is no such message with Underworld.

[coolalibaba]

if you input is BD, the message above mostly points to the PIP track which tsmuxer doesn't support.

[coolalibaba]

Anyone knows if tsmuxer supports mepg-2 and ac3 combination within mpg container(extension)? I tried one video yesterday but tsmuxer failed to recognize both audio and video tracks.

[turbojet]

These sups (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?njmgtaij4xj) give an unexpected byte error when they are resized. BDSup2Sub and SupRip handle it ok.

Also I don't know if this has already been asked or not but is there a chance to put 3 letter language in the file name when demuxing? Example: 00000.track_4608_eng.sup

[BZeeme]

The Blu-ray disk output of tsMuxeR v1.10.6 plays properly (on a Sony BDP-S350) when burnt to a BR-RE disc but not when burnt to a BR-R??? It contains a single video (AVC), single audio (AC3), and a single subtitle. A more complex movie (full movie backup of my Heroes Season One) created by BD-Rebuilder does play when burnt to a BD-R. The structures created by the two programs seem to be the same. It's getting expensive experimenting with BD-Rs when I can't test using BD-REs! Anyone have a suggestion?

[drelin]

The Blu-ray disk output of tsMuxeR v1.10.6 plays properly (on a Sony BDP-S350) when burnt to a BR-RE disc but not when burnt to a BR-R??? It contains a single video (AVC), single audio (AC3), and a single subtitle. A more complex movie (full movie backup of my Heroes Season One) created by BD-Rebuilder does play when burnt to a BD-R. The structures created by the two programs seem to be the same. It's getting expensive experimenting with BD-Rs when I can't test using BD-REs! Anyone have a suggestion?

Have verify if the problem should the BD-R reference ?
I'd test some brand and reference of BD-R and few brand are not reconize by S350 (or other player).

For exemple : DAXON BD-R not work on standalone player.
VERBATIM/PANOSONIC/SONY BD-R work fine.
TAIYO YUDEN LTH technology ? (no compatible writer for test).

[rapscallion]

It inserts a short compliant m2ts, 1280x720 or 1920x1080 to play before the main m2ts. It fools some players, doesn't fool some others. Safest thing to do is encode at compliant resolutions.
If the resolution is compliant, and the box is checked, will it still insert the mt2s ? (the default is checked and I haven't seen that addtional mt2s on my outputs).)

[turbojet]

The Blu-ray disk output of tsMuxeR v1.10.6 plays properly (on a Sony BDP-S350) when burnt to a BR-RE disc but not when burnt to a BR-R??? It contains a single video (AVC), single audio (AC3), and a single subtitle. A more complex movie (full movie backup of my Heroes Season One) created by BD-Rebuilder does play when burnt to a BD-R. The structures created by the two programs seem to be the same. It's getting expensive experimenting with BD-Rs when I can't test using BD-REs! Anyone have a suggestion?

Another thing to try outside of drelin's suggestion is use AVCHD output. As noted in the tsmuxer changelog '* Bug fixed: Incompatibility of VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players was fixed. User mode "Blu-ray disk" for playing VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players." The way I take it 'blu-ray output' should only be used in the case of VC-1 on Panasonic players.

If the resolution is compliant, and the box is checked, will it still insert the mt2s ? (the default is checked and I haven't seen that addtional mt2s on my outputs).)

Nope.

[BZeeme]

Have verify if the problem should the BD-R reference ?
I'd test some brand and reference of BD-R and few brand are not reconize by S350 (or other player).


Both the BD-RE and the BD-R are Memorex (They were on sale). I'll try another brand when I can.

Another thing to try outside of drelin's suggestion is use AVCHD output. As noted in the tsmuxer changelog '* Bug fixed: Incompatibility of VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players was fixed. User mode "Blu-ray disk" for playing VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players." The way I take it 'blu-ray output' should only be used in the case of VC-1 on Panasonic players.


I'll try the AVCHD output. The structure with the Blu-ray output seems the same as the "Heroes" disc which does play so I'm thinking the problem may be in the index.bdmv or the MovieObject.bdmv. I've done some searching for info on these but nothing useful yet.


P.S. Thanks for the suggestions.

[drelin]

@ BZeme.

Memorex is only a brand media seller not a manufacturer, if a remenber correctly.
For more informations look the ID manufacturer in ImgBurn (for example).

[BZeeme]

Another thing to try outside of drelin's suggestion is use AVCHD output. As noted in the tsmuxer changelog '* Bug fixed: Incompatibility of VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players was fixed. User mode "Blu-ray disk" for playing VC-1 tracks with Panasonic players." The way I take it 'blu-ray output' should only be used in the case of VC-1 on Panasonic players.

Thanks for your help.
With AVCHD as output, both the BD-RE and the BD-R will play on the Sony.:)
Other tests: 1) My "Heroes" backup will not play on a Panasonic DMP-BD30. 2)Blu-ray on BD-R will play on the Panasonic but the video is messed up. 3)The Panasonic says the AVCHD BD-R is incompatible. 4) Either Blu-ray or AVCHD output on a BD-RE will play in both the Sony and the Panasonic.
For now I can use BD-RE for backups to be played on both players until I try different manufactures.

@drelin
Disc ID: RITEK-BW1-01
Disc Type: BD-RE

Disc ID: RITEK-BR2-00
Disc Type: BD-R

I've tried searching Doom9 (and the internet) for things like "best bluray media" and find tons of info unrelated to the search. Any idea of where to look? The only on-line store I've used is SuperMediaStore. Are most on-line sources that show up as having brands such as Verbatim reputable? Thanks again.

[drelin]

@ BZeeme

For my professional use and test, I've tested several time mosts of Media brand and manufacturer (CD/DVD and BD-R/RE).
For informations :
Riteck is good way for low cost solution (in comparison of Prodisc/Optodisc and other Taiwan source => worse quality with lot of reject), but the production lines are not stable.
Some times, the quality is good but few months ago, lot of reject can be found.
But the price is good.

for CD-R & DVD-R (single layer) is good compromise.
For DVD+R DL (Double Layer) is worse with all tests maked during wirting process or after in playback, I've obtain big problem with riteck.
For BD-R is too new for make correct idea.

For my own use, I write on BD-R Verbatim White printable, no problem quality.
And the tests with SONY and PANASONIC no printable are very good also.

[mbcd]

It seems like another bug:

I have PAL-SD-Video with 720x576
I converted subtitle to sup (720x576)

TS-Muxer shows everything correct, but at muxing it always changes PGS-Resolution from 576 to 480.
Metafile is correct at:

S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\01-de-forced_exp.sup",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=720,video-height=576

But there always comes:
Decoding PGS stream (track 2): Resolution: 720:576 Frame rate: 25
Change PGS resolution from 720:576 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation

That should not be ... :confused:

With settings of "As prinary video" and "720x576".
In both modes will be scaled down to 480.

Its not only an optical "thing", played back muxed Bluray lets display sub in near middle of screen, thats bad.

It seems that only the 720x576 makes some problems.

Changing size to every other resolution make a correct work, but not 576.

[provolino]

is it possible to use this tool to edit mpeg-ts files and fix audio sync issues?

[idbirch2]

Editing, no. For sync issues, as long as the sync is out by a set amount throughout your files, yes as there is a delay field which accepts +/- values. However, it is best not to set a delay of more that +/-1000ms using the actual container, for delays greater than this, the audio should be cut/delayed using something like DelayCut.

[setarip_old]

@provolino

With this program, you can avail yourself to the basic editing (based on time) of cutting and splitting...

[Capsbackup]

is it possible to use this tool to edit mpeg-ts files and fix audio sync issues?

Yes, you can adjust audio delays with TSMuxer. It cannot find what the delay is, but you can manually set a delay.

[idbirch2]

OK, if you really want to use the term 'editing' in the loosest possible way, yes but it's really just cutting/trimming - you can't even place multiple cuts. For proper editing, use something like VideoRedo.

[Ryu77]

OK, if you really want to use the term 'editing' in the loosest possible way, yes but it's really just cutting/trimming - you can't even place multiple cuts. For proper editing, use something like VideoRedo.

Yes, I would have to agree. I have found VideoReDo my favourite for cutting and trimming at multiple points. Perfect for removing ads from free to air digital broadcasts. :)

[Sephiroth0000]

As the title suggests really. Begun backing up my HD collection and only need 720P versions of the films as set upstairs only capable of 720P. I have a demuxed 1080P h264 video, DTS HD audio file and subtitles file.

Is there anyway TsMuxer can make the output 1280x720 instead of 1920x1080 and if so how please?

[idbirch2]

To change the resolution, you will have to re-encode, no way around that.

[Sephiroth0000]

To change the resolution, you will have to re-encode, no way around that.

Well the video is seperate and in a h264 file. What would be the best way of doing this? Best program? I just want the full 720P version instead of the 1080P version. Is it going to take long also?

[rack04]

Well the video is seperate and in a h264 file. What would be the best way of doing this? Best program? I just want the full 720P version instead of the 1080P version. Is it going to take long also?

:readrule: about "best". For h264 video streams I use DGAVCDecNV. In order to resize just insert Spline64Resize(1280,720) in your avs script. Depending on your computer, yes it will take a long time. Although long is a relative term. :)

[Sephiroth0000]

:readrule: about "best". For h264 video streams I use DGAVCDecNV. In order to resize just insert Spline64Resize(1280,720) in your avs script. Depending on your computer, yes it will take a long time. Although long is a relative term. :)

Running Asus P5N7A-VM Geforce 9300 board with Intel DualCore E5200 2.50Ghz overclocked to 3.45Ghz, 2GB Ram, Vista Home Premium 64....

Thanks for replying though. All I want is 720P and it seems that its going to take forever lol.

[Sephiroth0000]

:readrule: about "best". For h264 video streams I use DGAVCDecNV. In order to resize just insert Spline64Resize(1280,720) in your avs script. Depending on your computer, yes it will take a long time. Although long is a relative term. :)

Also does doing as mentioned above re encode the file?

[rack04]

Also does doing as mentioned above re encode the file?

Yes. There is no way around it.

[Sharc]

It seems like another bug:

I have PAL-SD-Video with 720x576
I converted subtitle to sup (720x576)

TS-Muxer shows everything correct, but at muxing it always changes PGS-Resolution from 576 to 480.
Metafile is correct at:



But there always comes:


That should not be ... :confused:

With settings of "As prinary video" and "720x576".
In both modes will be scaled down to 480.

Its not only an optical "thing", played back muxed Bluray lets display sub in near middle of screen, thats bad.

It seems that only the 720x576 makes some problems.

Changing size to every other resolution make a correct work, but not 576.
I can fully confirm this.
(Moreover, bilinear resizing creates not very nice looking subtitles)

[setarip_old]

@Sephiroth0000

Hi!Begun backing up my HD collection and only need 720P versions of the films as set upstairs only capable of 720P.I'm thinking you must be wasting your effort. Won't that set simply downconvert the output to 720p?

[Sephiroth0000]

@Sephiroth0000

Hi!I'm thinking you must be wasting your effort. Won't that set simply downconvert the output to 720p?

Don't need 1080P versions for the systems upstairs.... got the discs and the frontroom for 1080P playback :D

EDIT: I know most would reply to have the 1080P versions but that can take anything up to 25Gb per film and HDD space is abit tight at the moment.

[rack04]

Don't need 1080P versions for the systems upstairs.... got the discs and the frontroom for 1080P playback :D

EDIT: I know most would reply to have the 1080P versions but that can take anything up to 25Gb per film and HDD space is abit tight at the moment.

I wouldn't say that. I downsize a lot of my movies to 720p. I can tell little to no difference on my 61" 1080p.

[DoomBot]

Anyone know why a demuxed pcm file using eac3to wont work with tsMuxeR, it wont let me import the file from any that i try that are demuxed?

[odin24]

Anyone know why a demuxed pcm file using eac3to wont work with tsMuxeR, it wont let me import the file from any that i try that are demuxed?

Using the latest eac3to use .w64 instead of .pcm while demuxing. tsMuxeR will then take the .w64 file, or use pcm2tsmu on the .pcm file to create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file.

[DoomBot]

Using the latest eac3to use .w64 instead of .pcm while demuxing. tsMuxeR will then take the .w64 file, or use pcm2tsmu on the .pcm file to create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file.

I'll give one of those options a try

Thanks:)

update..... awesome it worked! thanks again

I used .w64 and ill do that for now on sweet..

[tebasuna51]

Anyone know why a demuxed pcm file using eac3to wont work with tsMuxeR, it wont let me import the file from any that i try that are demuxed?
Use w64 format instead pcm.

[DoomBot]

Use w64 format instead pcm.

Yep odin24 already told me that 2 posts up but thanks anyway:p

[laserfan]

In doing a .264/.dts/.sub/custom chapters mux where the .264 had some slight corruption at the very beginning (in the Warner logo for the movie) I used the cut feature to just start 61s into the movie. The resulting BDMV was missing the first chapter info in the .mpls and so on Play it started well-into the movie, at the next chapter mark.

I was able to fix it by using BDEdit to insert the missing start-time to the .mpls, though it required a bit of math and head-scratching. In any case I don't think I've seen this reported here before and it qualifies as a "bug" for the cutting feature I think!

[vinaykagarwal]

Hello,

I am having trouble sending demuxed output to a named pipe.

AFAIK, only directory can be specified for the demux option and the streams are named according to a predefined naming convention. I created a named pipe with the proper naming convention for the stream I want to send out. Then I provided the directory of that pipe to the tsmuxer. Even that results in "unable to open output file".

I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

[mrr19121970]

Use w64 format instead pcm.

WildChild22 reports here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1294342#post1294342 that it does not work on seamless branching titles.

[DoomBot]

Thanks for the heads up :eek:

Where is madshi, we need him back on eac3to fixing W64 and what ever is wrong with truehd after demuxing and using Pioneer receivers the truehd thing kills me more.

[tebasuna51]

WildChild22 reports here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1294342#post1294342 that it does not work on seamless branching titles.

Yep, then use pcm and pcm2tsmu until madshi correct the problem.

[shisha]

if you input is BD, the message above mostly points to the PIP track which tsmuxer doesn't support.

Ok but as I said this doesn't seems to be related with the problem encountered with rip with DTSHD tracks.

In fact even when I got this message, Tsmuxer is completely able to handle the tasks, of course I loose the PIP option (who cares anyway when you only keep the movie).

Am I the only one here on this forum that noticed the problem with DTSHD tracks ?

I just would like to know if Roman is aware of the problem.

[setarip_old]

@roman76r

Hi!

In view of the fact that your wonderful program is already capable of accepting HD-DVD "EVO" files as input, would it possible to add HD-DVD format to its present output capabilities of TS, M2TS, BluRay, and AVCHD?

[73ChargerFan]

Why? I don't think blank hd-dvds are being made anymore.

[setarip_old]

@73ChargerFan

Hi!

1) There are plenty of resources still available (Do a Googlesearch for "Blank HD DVD")

2) For those of us with the great Toshiba HD-DVD players (I say great because they include fantastic standard DVD upconverting quality) or other HD-DVD players, it would then be a small matter to use a program such as BD Rebuilder or AVCHDCoder to compress our BluRay discs to fit on DVD9s and then convert them to HD-DVD format, as well as ripping our HD-DVDs, converting to BluRay, compressing, and then re-converting to HD-DVD (Not really a lot of work, just a lot of words ;>} )

[[)370|\|470!2]

I don't think supporting dead formats would be a good practice. Just an opinion however.

[piratburner]

Hi !

I have a lot of m2ts files, NOW I want to make a BD structure for these , Can I have a "default" structure made from TsMuxer ( From the first muxed movie) and use this for all of my other movies (m2ts files) ?

The playlist are named 00000.mpls in the structure and then I want to take my m2ts files an copy this to the structure STREAM folder and named this to 00000.m2ts


In this case I can save a lot of tine to skip the TsMuxer to make a BD for all of my m2ts files :-)

Is this a BAD idea ?

Reason is that Tvix play BD structure better than just a m2ts file.


EDIT

Just done my first test..... And it don't work :-(

Is there a tool perhaps that can fix this, or do I need to make new BD structure for each movie (m2ts file) using TsMuxer ?

I tried CLIPINF_Editor_v0.05.exe and BDEdit without no luck.

[deank]

There is no tool that will make it for you. You can't simply replace files in BD structure.

I can suggest you to try multiAVCHD and see if it will work for you. You'll get all m2ts files in one structure in one pass and your Tvix will see them as separate titles (I guess).

Dean

[setarip_old]

@piratburner

Hi!I have a lot of m2ts files, NOW I want to make a BD structure for theseThis is, at least to me, confusing.

Why would you have bothered to first create .M2Ts files from your original BluRay discs, and now look to re-convert them to BluRay "packages", rather than initially simply backing up (or compressing and backing up) your original BluRay discs?

[scott1256ca]

@piratburner
If I understand what you are trying to do, you could convert each of your m2ts files to individual AVCHD, then use multiAVCHD to make a single AVCHD out of several of them.

[turbojet]

mpls TIME_IN bug/workaround (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41722) I wonder if this affects some other hardware/software.

I looked at the playlists of 6 retail BD's and all had a TIME_IN of 00:00:02.000 according to readmpls.

[deank]

Yes, it affects players which are messed up and not programmed properly.

mpls start time can be 00:35:00 if you like... it is not a bug - it is related to what is inside these m2ts files.

[turbojet]

Is it like the dvd start timecode option in CCE?

I know by default CCE has it set to 01:00:00.000 and it's needed for internal pulldown but some software, like scenarist has issues with this start timecode. Whereas retails and HCenc start at 00:00:00:000. Could problems like this arise with BD muxing?

I checked some of the calibration disks over on avsforum and found these TIME_IN were used:

TSMuxer 00:10:00.000
Sonic 00:10:00.000
Arcsoft 00:00:00.975
Deluxe 00:00:11.651

So much for consistency but that's not uncommon in BD/DTV world.

[deank]

I posted this back in April: (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1277240#post1277240)


No one said that PTS is the real-time value of when things appear on screen. There is also a DTS stamp which in combination with PTS makes things work.

Here is more if you need to know about PTS:


PTS (presentation time stamp) -- Presentation times shall be related to decoding times as follows:

The PTS is a 33 bit number coded in three separate fields. It indicates the time of presentation, tpn(k), in the
system target decoder of a presentation unit k of elementary stream n. The value of PTS is specified in units of
the period of the system clock frequency divided by 300 (yielding 90 kHz). The presentation time is derived
from the PTS according to equation below.

PTS( k) = ((system clock frequency * tpn ( k)) DIV 300 ) % 2^33


where clock freq should be ~ 27000000 (+/- 800).


***

Late edit: using tools that change PTS values in mpls files (without taking care of clpi and m2ts files, referred by the playlist) will certainly break/cause lockups/problems with the 'new'/patched structure. That's why you can't simply *blank* or replace m2ts files... but as some other user said here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=147750), it is a "piece of cake"... "LOL"... people just like to talk....

[G_M_C]

Is Roman on a well deserved holiday ? He's not been seen here in a month;

12th May 2009 00:34

Or is he secretly working on a new and vastly improved version of tsMuxeR ?

[turbojet]

If someone knew exactly what to keep from mpls files that point to multiple m2ts files blanking the current way is a fairly simple but also a very timely task replacing mpls, clpi, m2ts with 'blank' ones. Software could make this replacing vastly easier.

Last thing I read from roman76r was they were working on vobsub input support.

[Ryu77]

Roman, small feature request...

This is one that you probably think why the hell am I asking, but I would really like to see the "add blank playlist for cropped video" option disabled by default. I really think that is the sort of non standard option that should be enabled if the user desires. Default options should be those centered around the creation of standard Blu-ray/AVCHD discs...

Unless it autodetects if the video is cropped and only adds a blank playlist/m2ts if tsMuxeR detects a video with non compliant resolution.

Can anybody clarify this?

[SurroundBoy]

Is there ANY way at all to have Tsmuxer NOT merge your files into one big M2TS file for BD/AVCHD Structure? I want to retain the separate playlists making an extras only disc.

[aygie]

I hope someone can help me with this, everytime i try and mux a MKV file to M2TS with subs i get this message "Can't convert source text to UTF-32. Invalid chars sequence."

How can i fix it? I've tried converting the .srt file to UTF-16 and -32, it muxes the files but the subs aren't there when i play the file.
Any ideas?

:thanks:

[xeniste]

Roman, why, if I cut comercials and join then the satellite recorded file parts, TSMuxer gives me a perfect .ts file, but when compiling a BD or an AVCHD strucuture, I aleays have sound/image desync after the cutting/joining point ?

[setarip_old]

@aygie

Hi!everytime i try and mux a MKV file to M2TS with subs i get this message "Can't convert source text to UTF-32. Invalid chars sequence"...I've tried converting the .srt file to UTF-16 and -32...What was the format of the subtitles in your original source material (Presumably a BluRay disc)- and what software and procedures did you use to extract and convert them?

Did you visually review the .SRT file that you created, to determine which characters are problematic?

[aygie]

@aygie

Hi!What was the format of the subtitles in your original source material (Presumably a BluRay disc)- and what software and procedures did you use to extract and convert them?

Did you visually review the .SRT file that you created, to determine which characters are problematic?

Hi! Sorry, i would have replied sooner but i didn't get an subscription email.

Yes original subs from a BD (not ripped by me though) I've gone through the .srt and its all fine, it happens on all mkv's with subs that i try and convert to m2ts (for the PS3). Any ideas?

Thanks again.

[setarip_old]

@aygieYes original subs from a BD (not ripped by me though)OOPS!

it happens on all mkv's with subs that i try and convert to m2ts (for the PS3).Were all of these other MKVs also not ripped by you?

If so, there's no way (or reason) for any member to speculate what might be wrong...

[aygie]

@aygieOOPS!

Were all of these other MKVs also not ripped by you?

If so, there's no way (or reason) for any member to speculate what might be wrong...

My bad, sorry didn't realise. Thanks for the help though, i appreciate it. :thanks:

[Guest]

@aygie

Please re-read our forum rules, especially rule 6. We cannot assist you with illegitimately obtained copyrighted material. Also, you cannot post subs in their entirety. Further violations will lead to strikes.

http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm

[aygie]

@aygie

Please re-read our forum rules, especially rule 6. We cannot assist you with illegitimately obtained copyrighted material. Also, you cannot post subs in their entirety. Further violations will lead to strikes.

http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm

Sorry guys totally didn't realise. My bad.

[raymondtrudeau]

i use anydvd and tsmuxer to get the main movie itself and save as a blue ray structure..is there a way to keep the original chapters instead of having them every 10 min? thanks

[setarip_old]

@raymondtrudeau

If instead of "AnyDVD HD" you use (presently freeware) "MakeMKV" to rip the main movie of a BluRay and then load the MKV file into "tsMuxeR", you'll see that "tsMuxeR" has also received the actual chapter times...

[deank]

If you are comfortable with command line prompt, you can use:

tsmuxer.exe path_to_decrypted_copy\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls|find "Marks:"

Just replace 00000.mpls with the playlist for the main movie.

and you'll get:

Marks: 00:00:00.000 00:09:52.000 00:19:44.000 00:29:36.000 00:39:28.000
Marks: 00:49:20.000 00:59:12.000 01:09:04.000 01:18:56.000 01:28:48.000
Marks: 01:38:40.000 01:48:32.000
Marks: 01:58:24.000

[Capsbackup]

i use anydvd and tsmuxer to get the main movie itself and save as a blue ray structure..is there a way to keep the original chapters instead of having them every 10 min? thanks

If you use BDInfo first on the original Bluray folders, it will tell you the corresponding .mpls file that is for the movie you want. Then just load that .mpls file into tsMuxeR, and the chapter files and all audio and subs will be included.

[maldino800]

Hi. Thank you for this easy to use application. One thing that hasn't worked for me from the beginning though, is the addition of non-western subtitles, specifically, Arabic. I can add the srt file fine and it gives no error message but when I play the AVCHD, I get weird text, it looks arabic, but certainly not the text that is in the original srt file.

For some reason it works in MKV2VOB and I know it is using Tsmuxer as its backend. The author has said all his application does in order to allow arabic text to display correctly, is to convert it to utf-8. What I have done, is used MKV2VOB to add the srt into an AVCHD, demuxed the SUP file with Tsmuxer, then add the newly exported sup file into AVCHD by Tsmuxer. THIS WORKS.

So what I did, was convert the srt to utf-8 first, then add it into Tsmuxer to make an AVCHD. This still gives me weird characters so I don't know how the author of MKV2VOB has solved it.

To be honest, I would much rather use Tsmuxer as it allows multiple streams, supports VC-1 and MPEG2; all of which MKV2VOB does not support.

I hope I have explained the problem well and am happy to assist in anything you need.

Thanks!

Same problem,,can any one help us please??

[rapscallion]

I was muxing a h.264 stream, (to a *.m2ts) and at about the 74% progress point I received a single error :
H264 warn: Unexpected pic_order_cnt_lsb value 1. FrameNum: 131596 slice type: I_TYPE

The muxing completed successfully but I am just curious what this error means and how/if it affects the video ? Thanks

[mikelebron]

Question, I have a quad core machine, 4 GB Windows 7 64 bit... I noticed that when remuxing to a m2ts (HD video + HD Audio) the system is just about not responsive BUT I noticed that CPU, memory, etc. is barely being used, in addition, IF I try to multi task I get audio clipping from the end resulted m2ts...

Any ideas why? If this is normal please let me know..

[NSI]

I have a dual Quad Core, 16 GB of RAM, also running Windows 7 x64. While it is a little more machine than yours, I notice no slowdown at all during a mux. Unlike on my 1st gen, single core Macbook under OS X--that thing crawls when muxing. But neither system presents corrupted audio when finished.

You're right about the RAM and CPU use. tsMuxeR is entirely disk bound on any higher-end system. If you're having trouble, and ending up with corrupted files, I'd check out your disk.

[JeffBDVS]

I can't get tsMuxeR to recognize more than one angle in a multi-angle BD playlist. eac3to finds the files that make up each angle of the playlist, but tsMuxeR does not. Reference disc: Star Trek TOS Season 1.

Workaround: using the file lists from eac3to, manually add the files that make up each angle of the playlist.

-Jeff

[st0niMah0ni]

Version 1.8.4(b) - Windows
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

Link is dead? I allways get 404 error.

[Underground78]

You have a newer version : http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip ...

[rapscallion]

I'm muxing a DTheater HD movie source, in order to create an AVCHD DVD9.

The framerate of the movie is 29.970 fps. I understand that the supported framerates for avchd are 24,30 and 60fps.

There is an option in Tsmuxer to change the frame rate to 24 fps. Is there any reason I should do that, or will 29.970 play just fine on a stand alone BD player? (will changing it also cause audio sync problems?)

[deank]

29.970 is supported in AVCHD. 99% of the available (NTSC) HD camcoders record video with this framerate, so you should have no troubles. 24p is more trouble.

[rapscallion]

Thanks Dean. I asked because all of the BD discs I have are 23.976 fps and this was the first source I've come across with the higher frame rate. Wanted to be sure before I spent hrs re encoding.

[JHL]

I was having some problems moving DVHS files to Bluray discs. Some of the files play just fine on my PC (using VLC) but Nero has problems when I try to create the Bluray images. Someone at Nero suggested remuxing the file to try and eliminate any possible frame errors.

I noticed two problems:
1) An off the air HDTV program has no audio after remuxing.
Here is the command line output displayed by the GUI:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --vbr --vbv-len=500
#V_MPEG-2, "C:\HD Movies\AgassiSamp.ts", fps=29.970, track=33
V_MPEG-2, "C:\HD Movies\AgassiSamp.ts", fps=29.970, track=17

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.1(b) http://www.smlabs.net
MPEG-2 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=29.97
Decoding MPEG2 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@4. Resolution: 1920:1080i. Frame rate: 29.97

2) When I tried the same process with another file (movie recorded from DirecTV onto DVHS) it had sound. Unfortunately there were audio synchronization issues so I deleted the file. Can the remux process do anything about lip sync issues?

[deank]

Your 1) shows that there is no audio track described in the .meta file, which means the tsMuxeR does not detect and process it. You should have

V_MPEG-2,.....
A_MP3,.... / A_AC3... or something else for audio track

When you load your .ts in tsMuxeR GUI don't you get "Some tracks are not recognized" message?

2) If your audio is not AC3 but MPEG (A_MP3 in the meta) then it is possible to get audio sync problems. If the delay is constant then you can use timeshift=XXXms to correct positive/negative audio delay.

[JHL]

I did see the "some tracks are not recognized" message.
How can I fix that?

[mikelebron]

Any release notes?

You have a newer version : http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip ...

[deank]

I did see the "some tracks are not recognized" message.
How can I fix that?

You need to find a way to demux both the audio and video streams from the problematic .ts file and then remux them back with tsMuxeR.

Can you post the information, reported by mediainfo.exe (CLI)?

[jj666]

I'm normally having to run my Dreambox captures through TSREMUX before TSMUXER will touch them (EAC3TO usually reports junk at the start of the .ts).

Cheers,

-jj-

[JHL]

You need to find a way to demux both the audio and video streams from the problematic .ts file and then remux them back with tsMuxeR.

Can you post the information, reported by mediainfo.exe (CLI)?

General
ID : 1A9
Complete name : C:\HD Movies\AgassiSamp.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 20.7 GiB
Duration : 3h 4mn
Start time : UTC 2002-09-08 20:41:05
End time : UTC 2002-09-08 23:45:44
Overall bit rate : 16.0 Mbps


Audio #1
ID : 20 (0x14)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 3h 4mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : -161ms
Stream size : 338 MiB (2%)

Audio #2
ID : 36 (0x24)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 3h 4mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : -52s 168ms
Stream size : 254 MiB (1%)

[deank]

Strange... no video track detected by mediainfo, but 2 audio tracks.

Try to load your .ts file in hdtv2mpeg:

http://www.deanbg.com/public/HDTVtoMPEG2.exe and see what will happen.

[JHL]

I deleted the video track info because I thought it was irrelevant and took up too much space in the message.

ID : 1A9
Complete name : C:\HD Movies\AgassiSamp.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 20.7 GiB
Duration : 3h 4mn
Start time : UTC 2002-09-08 20:41:05
End time : UTC 2002-09-08 23:45:44
Overall bit rate : 16.0 Mbps

Video #1
ID : 17 (0x11)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 3h 4mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Nominal bit rate : 45.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.724

Video #2
ID : 33 (0x21)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 3h 4mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Nominal bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.481

[deank]

Well... it is relevant :) Try with the tool I posted above. If it doesn't help you - try with multiAVCHD or tsRemuX.

[JHL]

That looks a lot like the tool I used to delete commercials from my original file. It is currently churning away on the latest version of the file, so lets see what happens.

[k-c-ksum]

is it possible to force subtitle on by default with tsmuxer?

[Lincoln Burrows]

I am having problems with M2TS files here. At first, I thought it was only one, but it's all of them (no matter if I choose BDisc or M2TS as outputs).

The problem is related to the internal source filter from MPC-HC. When enabled (MPEG PS/TS/PVA), the modified file is very fast, and if the source filter is disabled (and the transform filters are doing the job along with Haali Media Splitter), changing subtitles will crash the player. But the original file is fine, for both video and subtitles.

It seems that a broken file was generated by TSMuxer. I seriously doubt this is MPC's fault.

My steps:

1) Using TsMuxer, I am removing unwanted tracks from the movie. All subtitles are still there.

2) I am leaving these options enabled (I tried to disable the first two, but nothing changed):

"Add picture timing info"
"Continually insert SPS/PPS"

Then, it's selected on the General tab, "Mux VBR" (by default)

All other options were not modified:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3869/screenghp.th.png (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3869/screenghp.png)
Click on this image to see resized on another tab/window

What I am missing here?

Original file specs (00001.m2ts) (MediaInfo):
Click here (http://wd20eads.001webs.com/test.txt)

Modified/broken file specs (MediaInfo):
Click here (http://wd20eads.001webs.com/brokenwithoutunwantedtracks.txt)

[[)370|\|470!2]

When enabled (MPEG PS/TS/PVA), the modified file is very fast
Very fast what?
if the source filter is disabled (and the transform filters are doing the job along with Haali Media Splitter), changing subtitles will crash the player.
Haali Media Splitter to my experience never worked properly with transport stream subtitles, and it much seems so it never will.
But the original file is fine, for both video and subtitles.
As i mention, i never managed to make Haali Media Splitter to work with .ts/m2ts with subs.
MPC-HC internal splitter has a few glitches but works however — allows to pick and switch subs/audio. The only difference i noticed there is that in tsmuxer's generated .m2ts's all stream languages are renamed to english, so you have to guess which is which, while with original .m2ts stream MPC-HC clearly states what languages are there. I'd say it is a minor bug in tsmuxer, yeah.

[Lincoln Burrows]

Very fast what?Original file: Speed is normal.

Modified file, without the unwanted tracks: Speed is messed, it seems the file is running at least 1.5 times faster (almost like if were struggling to show the frames), can't be smooth. It appears the speed is corrected if I choose "Haali video renderer" on MPC's settings, instead of VMR9 renderless. Strange thing, since BSPlayer PRO can play all files (modified or not) using normal speed. But BSP can't see subtitles, while MPC can. And then you can correct the video speed, but messes the subtitles.

I tried reinstalling MPC, all codecs, all sorts of modifications and the result is, this must be TSMuxer's fault. I can't accept the fact that all original files are running fine, even the subtitles.

Two movies were tested, the first one using VC-1 codec, the second using AVC. It seems the second is more buggy than the first.

Can you tell us what have you enabled or disabled in terms of source/transform filters on MPC-HC? BSPlayer is not an option at this moment, since it cannot read subtitles from M2TS files (either they are OK or not).

Haali Media Splitter to my experience never worked properly with transport stream subtitles, and it much seems so it never will.

As i mention, i never managed to make Haali Media Splitter to work with .ts/m2ts with subs. Thank you for confirming this.

MPC-HC internal splitter has a few glitches but works however — allows to pick and switch subs/audio.It works, unless you remove some audio tracks from the M2TS file and generate a new M2TS archive again. If you do that, God help you trying to switch subtitles while watching the movie.

The only difference i noticed there is that in tsmuxer's generated .m2ts's all stream languages are renamed to english, so you have to guess which is which, while with original .m2ts stream MPC-HC clearly states what languages are there. I'd say it is a minor bug in tsmuxer, yeah.I wouldn't say this is a minor bug. MPC-HC's internal splitter is capable of saying the name of all tracks - english, spanish, japanese, etc.. But suddenly if you remove spanish, and leaves english/japanese, it will say they are all english.

What I am trying to accomplish here, more than removing a few audio tracks from a file, is to do that and place that same file again in the middle of one already saved BD project.

You see, the Blu-ray disc from the movie was already decrypted to my Hard Drive. Now I am using TSMuxer to do that and I strongly believe that the new file is messed because the original one was attached to all others from the BD project (all original folders, called BDMV and CERTIFICATE).

That must be the reason.

Either that or someone needs to fix this program, because it's not working at all for me.

[[)370|\|470!2]

Lincoln Burrows
What is MPC-HC version that you're using?

[Rodger]

Here....have yourself a look!

http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

By the way...I use it myself...eben better than KM-Player if you´re asking me.

[[)370|\|470!2]

I haven't quite realize who you were referring to, Rodger, but that version you've linked us to is rather old and doesn't handle .ts/m2ts very well. I'd suggest trying MPC-HC ver. 1.2.1179.0 from here (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/834/2/).

[moviefan]

I haven't been following the development of tsMuxer in the last months... What is the current compatibility status for BD9s on SA Blu-ray players? Can I use "Create Blu-ray disc" for BD9s (encoded with correct x264 settings and frame size) or do I have to use AVCHD? I want to add more than one audio track (AC3 and DTS).

[Rodger]

Well....rather old, but at least stated as STABLE !!!
You are using an unofficial Beta Build!

And finally I did´t get at first, what you were asking.
I thought you would like to know what MPC-HC is like?! :rolleyes:

[Rodger]

You should usually use AVCHD output.
This is usually the right choice. Only a handful of players really need REAL BLURAY output.
Most players don´t play REAL BLURAY output.

[[)370|\|470!2]

You are using an unofficial Beta Build!
It's quite official actually and being developed by the same team.

And finally I did´t get at first, what you were asking.
I thought you would like to know what MPC-HC is like?!
Ahah, you misunderstood mate, i see. No, i just asked the previous guy what version is he using.

[Coolpplse]

You should usually use AVCHD output.
This is usually the right choice. Only a handful of players really need REAL BLURAY output.
Most players don´t play REAL BLURAY output.

With AVCHD output on the latest version of TsMuxer, do most players play HD Audio from BD9's? or do we have to use the Blu-Ray disk output for HD Audio on BD9 with standalone bd players...

[PurpleMan]

Hi,

I have a m2ts file from a blu-ray disc that has 2 video streams in it. the primary one is track 4113, and secondary one is track 6912.

I'm trying to add a subtitle stream and remuxing, but whenever I remux using tsmuxer, the output m2ts has the video track numbers reassigned - primary track 4113, secondary track 4112.

How can I instruct tsmuxer to use the same track numbers as the original file?

Thanks!

[moviefan]

The following question isn't meant to be offensive against tsMuxer or its developers, so don't get me wrong. Why isn't it possible to generate Blu-ray identical output with self encoded video material? (encoded with x264 and the guessed correct settings?) Isn't the structure of a Blu-ray (folders, file headers etc.) open? One should think that burning a Blu-ray structure on a DVD9 should be eaten by a proper SA Blu-ray player, shouldn't one?

[Rodger]

With AVCHD output on the latest version of TsMuxer, do most players play HD Audio from BD9's? or do we have to use the Blu-Ray disk output for HD Audio on BD9 with standalone bd players...

Generally you should NOT use HD-Audio on BD9 (DVD-R DL).
There were problems in the past, because of wrong muxing by tsmuxer, which are solved, as much as I know and some players refuse HD-Streams from anything other than org. BluRay.
I remember my BD-P2500 did play TrueHD from Verbatim DVD-R DL when using the AVCHD "mode".

But I´d still advise you really to save the space for more video bitrate instead of blowing it for almost not regognizeable better audio quality. It´s really just a sugguestion thing by the marketing departments.

[Rodger]

The following question isn't meant to be offensive against tsMuxer or its developers, so don't get me wrong. Why isn't it possible to generate Blu-ray identical output with self encoded video material? (encoded with x264 and the guessed correct settings?) Isn't the structure of a Blu-ray (folders, file headers etc.) open? One should think that burning a Blu-ray structure on a DVD9 should be eaten by a proper SA Blu-ray player, shouldn't one?

TOTALLY WRONG!
It´s not the fault of the developers of tsmuxer it´s the manufacturers fault of you SA-player which ONLY allows you to play AVCHD via the software onboard the player.

tsmuxer is able to go both ways. I´m not that much into this stuff, but I´ve read that there are some minor differences how to navigate on a disc and that alreay does the trick why bluray-output almost doesn´t work on any player and AVCHD plays on most players, even some which officially can´t play AVCHD (like my old BD-P1400).

It´s tricky...and annoying...but you are the weakest link and have to take what you get.
By the way....something must have changed in the past. My BD-P2500 still plays everything perfect. My DMP-BD30 somehow doesn´t play my newer content. I have absolutely no clue why. Especially becauser back then the BD-P2500 was a bitch while the DMP-BD30 played everything.

[moviefan]

As I said, or maybe it didn't come out so clearly, I don't blame tsMuxer's developers as I believe the fault is on some others' side. Do SA players check for the medium inserted and if they detect a DVD-R DL or something other than original BD, they somehow refuse to play a proper Blu-ray structure? If so, the SA manufacturers are really dumb... That's why I built a media pc, but you never know when you want to take a video to someone else who has only a SA player and then, if it's not compatible......

[deank]

The following question isn't meant to be offensive against tsMuxer or its developers, so don't get me wrong. Why isn't it possible to generate Blu-ray identical output with self encoded video material? (encoded with x264 and the guessed correct settings?) Isn't the structure of a Blu-ray (folders, file headers etc.) open? One should think that burning a Blu-ray structure on a DVD9 should be eaten by a proper SA Blu-ray player, shouldn't one?

I'm not really sure if I understand your 1st question. It is possible to use your self-encoded material and then mux it with audio, using tsMuxeR.

2nd question: No, the blu-ray specs are not open and cost 10000+EUR. Furthermore - there are even less sources about AVCHD structure.

About AVCHD and Blu-ray... a lot of people think of these as the same (or almost the same thing) - well it is not the case. The only thing in common is the media file(s) (m2ts/mts) - all the rest is different.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272605&highlight=manufacturer#post1272605

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272188&highlight=manufacturer#post1272188

I can't find my other posts, but I'll just say that tsMuxeR does a GREAT job and there is no replacement for it.

There were already a lot of discussions about DVD9 (BD-9). Take a good look in the users' manual of your BD player and let me know if you find ANYTHING about playing blu-ray content, written to DVD disc (be it SL or DL). No manufacturer ever stated that this is possible.

As I commented few months ago, some players first do the MEDIA CHECK (DVD/Blu-ray) and then CONTENT check (Blu-ray/AVCHD). In this case if the player detects DVD media it will not expect and will not play BD structure/files.

Other players do the content check (like sony) and then play AVCHD/Blu-ray, no matter if it is a DVD or BD. And... other players do both media+content... and for example won't let you play BD structure written to DVD or AVCHD structure written to BD.

Dean

[moviefan]

I'm not really sure if I understand your 1st question. It is possible to use your self-encoded material and then mux it with audio, using tsMuxeR.

I know I can mux video and audio, but I have read that there are some players that play only AVCHD, some play BD structure on DVD-RL, some need a cli fix (or is this information outdated by now?)... I wonder, why original Blu-ray discs all play fine in SA players and self-made ones have issues. Isn't a Blu-ray only bits and bytes and it doesn't matter whether I burn those bits and bytes on a DVD-R DL or a BD-R?

[deank]

It matters to the SAP, not to you. All original BD discs play because they're written on Blu-ray media (discs). People who use BD-R/RE have zero to no problems compatibility wise. Those who try the same with DVD-R/RW get into trouble, because this is out of specs. (fixcli is not needed).

[laserfan]

I wonder, why original Blu-ray discs all play fine in SA players and self-made ones have issues.Simple:

BECAUSE "SELF-MADE ONES" WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO DO-ABLE!

That writeable BD discs ever worked on SAPs in the first place had only to do with the initial launch of BD, i.e. some slack was cut to such discs for promoters to be able to make discs for trade shows and whatnot. Then the ability to play same was supposed to be firmwared-out of such players.

That this has not only NOT happened, but also clever folks have figured-out how to make "BD-5 and BD-9" discs play with hi-def content in their players (and some mfrs are allowing same) is something of a minor miracle IMO.

[moviefan]

Hm, okay, but why don't SA BD-player manufacturers produce players that play BD5s and BD9s and so on? Wouldn't people prefer buying those instead of others that don't play self-made BDs? That means more money for those manufacturers...

[deank]

2 posts ago you went off-topic, dragging me too :) so I'd let you ask the manufacturers what you need to ask them. Let's discuss tsMuxeR (and SUPPORT IT!) or just chat someplace else.

[Lincoln Burrows]

It's quite official actually and being developed by the same team.

Ahah, you misunderstood mate, i see. No, i just asked the previous guy what version is he using.It is working now. I managed to make it work after using the last DVDFab version. Also, I noticed MPC's version was not the last one when I tried to open the file (K-Lite's fault).

I have a question, about this BD project. It seems DVDFab (and also TSMuxer) cannot select all M2TS files from the STREAM folder. What should I do after creating this new M2TS file from the movie? I mean, only using the "Blu-ray disc output", can make the M2TS (while using MPC) tell the player more info about the streams embedded on the file (the name of the audio/subtitle languages for example). If I choose to isolate this M2TS file, it will break this connection. I fear that this whole BD project can be affected since by altering the movie I am isolating from the other 20 M2TS files which have tiny files attached that might be linked to each other.

[BigCondor]

After using tsMuxeR for sometime I have some difficulties with the 1.10.6 version.

I can't set up the Charset properly. It seems the Charset will return to its Default state after whatever I have set up in the font's menu. So I can't produce sup with Chinese fonts.

Recently, I encounter a source of 1440x1080 which displays at 1920x1080. After muxing with 1.10.6 the resolution turns to 4:3. So, is there a way we can ensure proper display AR, which differs from SAR?

I notice there is an AR box when we add a video, but the option is always grey, any clue about that?

Thanks!

[Octo-puss]

Is there any other way than blindly browsing several of the last pages of this thread for a link to get the latest version?

[rapscallion]

Is there any other way than blindly browsing several of the last pages of this thread for a link to get the latest version?
Google is your friend ....Click Here ! (http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html)

[Octo-puss]

Hm, that was kinda obvious.
/slaps himself

[QUEENFAN]

Hello,

seems to be a pretty good tool.
But where can I find an englisch documentation?

Thanks a lot.

[shon3i]

Hello,

seems to be a pretty good tool.
But where can I find an englisch documentation?

Thanks a lot.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559

[QUEENFAN]

That was quick shon3i.

Thanks a lot for that.

[StephenB]

I'm trying to convert srt subtitles to pgs. What ends up on the display is the the entire screen gets set to the font color when the subtitle is displayed.

The line in the meta file is:

S_TEXT/UTF8, "test.mkv", font-name="Arial", font=size=65, font-color=0x00ff0000, bottom-offset=24, font=border=2, text-align=center, video-width=1920, video-height=1080, fps=23.976, track=6, lang=eng

It looks like there is only one color entered in the PGS palette, which is red (index 0). I'd have expected to see the transparency color there, but it does not seem to be.

This occurs with both 1.10.6 and 1.9.9,

Anyone have any ideas>

[laserfan]

Dunno about the color you've chosen, but "font=border=2" s/b "font-border" and "font=size" s/b "font-size".

[StephenB]

Dunno about the color you've chosen, but "font=border=2" s/b "font-border" and "font=size" s/b "font-size".

It does work a little better when I fix that :o

However, it still does not seem to work correctly with my media player - the subtitle background is not transparent.

With the fix to the syntax, the subtitle is displayed properly but the video disappears. (The color doesn't matter, this also happens with 0x00ffffff)

(UPDATE) -
I've looked at the converted sup file in a hex editor. It turns out that all 16 entries in the palette have alpha=0xff. So it appears that the behavior of the media player is correct. I manually changed the alpha value in the first entry to 0, and the player then displays the subtitle properly.

So this looks like a bug in tsmuxer.

[mrr19121970]

I'm trying to convert srt subtitles to pgs.

you could try this too:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=32826

http://clownbd.com/Clown_SRT2XMLSUB_5.jpg

and then convert to PGS with BDSub2Sup



.

[rapscallion]

Speaking of subs....When demuxing to a mt2s file (without audio) do you include the srt file at this time, so that it's included and processed/encoded by Megui, or wait and add it later when creating an avchd ?

[StephenB]

you could try this too:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=32826

http://clownbd.com/Clown_SRT2XMLSUB_5.jpg

and then convert to PGS with BDSub2Sup



.

Thanks, I will try it. Though I need a command line tool for what I am doing.

[G_M_C]

Google is your friend ....Click Here ! (http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html)

There doesnt seem to be much development in the recent times. Anyone heard of Roman lately ?

[mrr19121970]

@StephenB

if it works for you, then I might do a CLI mod...




.

[moviefan]

I didn't want to open a new thread so I hope this is not too off-topic:

When demuxing a Blu-ray movie with tsMuxer, how can I find out which subtitle streams are the movie synchronization subs in the respective language in contrast to other subs containing extras like comments etc.? I only want to demux the actual movie subs in two specific languages, but I don't know which of the many (in those languages) to demux.

[mrr19121970]

you can't tell. you need to demux them all. next you open them with BDSup2Sub and look for the FORCED flag. Similarly SDH are generally in sqaure braces (eg [PEOPLE LAUGHING])



-

[StephenB]

@StephenB

if it works for you, then I might do a CLI mod...




.

I tried it on this test file:

1
00:00:34,967 --> 00:00:36,227
Закончим дело.

srt2xmlsub gave me an error-

http://eoi.lefti.net/stuff/eva9000beta/dialog.jpg

[sneaker_ger]

It seems to have problems with the byte-order mark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte-order_mark), try removing it (e.g. notepad++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)) as a workaround.

[mrr19121970]

I hope this is the result of my fonts...



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[deank]

This looks like UTF displayed as ANSI.

[mrr19121970]

Roman, is it possible to add a log option to the muxopt line or/and to the CLI as a parameter?

For example:

--log="x:\full_path_to\log_file_name.log"

or/and

tsmuxer.exe meta_file destination -log "full_path_to\log_file.log"

TIA,
Dean


try this...

http://clownbd.com/tsMuxer Caller.zip


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[ultratoto14]

Hi all. I've just noticed something with tsMuxer.

I mux a 23.976 h264 video with an ac3 audio track.
On the h264 video track, i force fps to 24/1001 and tick Add picture timing info and Continually insert SPS/PPS. This ensure fastforward/rewind with PS3. I mux to an AVCHD structure.
I used eac3to on the created structure for the first playlist and got

M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:58:01, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 24 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1280x536 23.975p
3: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -30dB
v02 The video bitstream is encoded in a non-standard framerate.
v02 The video bitstream framerate field doesn't seem to match the timestamps.

Does tsMuxer set a bad framerate ?

[setarip_old]

@ultratoto14

Hi!Does tsMuxer set a bad framerate ? No. From what I've seen, , eac3to always reports 23.975fps instead of 23.976fps...

[ultratoto14]

The fact is that eac3to does not complain on blu-ray disks, only on tsmuxer muxes.

Remuxed with tsremux, eac3to does not complain about.

[tebasuna51]

...Does tsMuxer set a bad framerate ?
Like you can see in eac3to report the unexact value is inside the video stream: 2: h264/AVC, 1280x536 23.975p

TsMuxer don't change the video stream, only the container info and is ok: M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:58:01, 24p /1.001

Is not necesary, but if you want correct the unexact data in video stream you can use:
eac3to movie.m2ts 2: video.h264 -changeTo23.976
and after replace the video stream in the m2ts container

[ultratoto14]

Thanks for the tip, this is what i used to correct this, i just wanted to report the problem to the tsMuxer developper. Just in case.

[blenky]

I have ten 1080p .mkv files that I have converted to .ts fomat using TSMuxer. The original .mkv files play fine but the .ts files do not play correctly.

The picture is broken and stuttering. Any ideas on cause and fix?

Thanks

[Guest]

Where did you get the MKV files and what are they?

[blenky]

Where did you get the MKV files and what are they?

They are Blu Ray rips (not mine) of Band of Brothers

[Guest]

Please read and follow our forum rules. We cannot help you with material that you do not legitimately own. And don't try to repost a cleaned up version of your issue.

[aHorseofCourse]

The OS X version of tsMuxeR is broken under Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6):-( Hope to see a new version soon.

[G_M_C]

The OS X version of tsMuxeR is broken under Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6):-( Hope to see a new version soon.

Yep, havent seen Roman in some time. I'm curious to current and future developments too.

[Warbucks81]

Playing discs created using AVCHD output in my panasonic bd55 won't work with 24p. Any ideas how I can get the disc to play with 24p?

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

Hi!

Try resaving them by selecting "BluRay" instead of "AVCHD"...

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

Hi!

Try resaving them by selecting "BluRay" instead of "AVCHD"...

Tried that. My player won't play the disc if I use Bluray output instead of avchd. Any other ideas?

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

See the following:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1244660&postcount=14

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

See the following:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1244660&postcount=14

That doesn't help me. I WANT 24p playback with avchd.

[setarip_old]

@Warbucks81

Based on the post I directed you to, it would appear that what you want and what you can get are two different things...

[MadMonkey57]

@Warbucks81

BD 35/55 simply WON'T do 24 playback on AVCHD (at least on red laser DVD). It is no authoring issue or muxing issue. It's just Panasonic's "decision".

[Warbucks81]

@Warbucks81

BD 35/55 simply WON'T do 24 playback on AVCHD (at least on red laser DVD). It is no authoring issue or muxing issue. It's just Panasonic's "decision".

Thanks for the answer! I was beginning to think this was the case.

[rapscallion]

Tsmuxer ver 1.10.6

For the 1st time I'm trying to add a forced sub track to my creation of an avchd.
The original ~20gb 1920*1080, m2ts displays the subs fine, via MPC, the first one about 10m into the movie.

I demuxed this to a m2ts, minus the audio, so that I could encode to 1280*720, sized bd9, *.264, via Megui.

When I create the avchd via tsmuxer, the sub pgs is present, according to Media info, but NO subs are displayed when I play it.
MPC does have a select tab for it as well. I've tried several different settings for font size and bottom offset, color white, with no luck.

Here's the meta file for one of the muxes :
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\defiance.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\defiance.dts"
S_TEXT/UTF8, "C:\orig_bd\Defiance\Defiance.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=36,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=40,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976

So, any help and recommended settings in the sub tab would be appreciated. (btw, what's "additional boder pixels" purpose ?)

[MadMonkey57]

tsmuxer can indeed add a sub stream but can't force its playback. You need to alter tsmuxer's output with BDedit:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1229423#post1229423
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1258566#post1258566

[rapscallion]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow any of that how it relates to getting my subtitles to play.

[MadMonkey57]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5sysm4

Replace the 2 files produced by tsmuxer in "BDMV"" and "BDMV/BACKUP" with the ones from the link above (custom index.bdmv MovieObject.bdmv). It should force 1st sub and 1st audio.

Open the AVCHD structure with BDEdit will help you understand the guides.

[deank]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow any of that how it relates to getting my subtitles to play.

You may want to check the .srt file and its first subtitle line. Open it in notepad and take a look at the "START --> END" times of the first subtitle line. If 'start time' is less than 00:00:01.600 change it to this value.

[rapscallion]

@madmonkey...thanks, that did the trick ! Although I hadn't tried it yet, I found this post on bdedit/subs late last night :Click (http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-157/bd_rb_beta_released_-now_at_version_0_29_03_september_8th_2009-733781/5#4490771) (Scroll down about 3/4 of the pg)

@deank..this was subs for the non-eng dialog so the first line of the srt started well after zero:
1
00:10:20,578 --> 00:10:22,288
You want me not to help?


Thanks to both of you for the response, as this was my first attempt at subs and it was getting a bit frustrating. MM, I'l try to dig in deeper to bdedit and the structure.

Also, it seems that with forced subs, Tsmuxer settings for font, offset, etc has no affect ?

[iSeries]

Hi,

Hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to remux 'Cloverfield' with just the TrueHD and AC3 core soundtrack. If I double click the original .m2ts file and play in MPC HC, in 'Properties' it says the audio is AC3 6 channel. However, after remuxing with tsmuxer, there is no audio! If I load the remuxed .m2ts into tsmuxer it confirms that the audio is still TrueHD with AC3 core. Anyone got any ideas? Please note I'm not looking to play back TrueHD on my PC as my receiver can't handle HD audio, but I'd like to keep it for future upgrades.

[RonaldoSan]

Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly does tsmuxer rebuild the streams when remuxing/demuxing? Is it done through decoding (directshow etc.) or does it just kinda cut out the stream?

[deank]

It doesn't use any filters/codecs... tsMuxeR *demuxes" the streams and then muxes the requested ones back. It employs container change method, not reencoding or anything.

Imagine you have a box of peanuts and hazelnuts - it separates them (if you wish in separate bags) or packs them under a different franchise :)

Dean

[RonaldoSan]

Thank you for the explanation. This is how I understood that muxing worked, but TsMuxer says it's "decoding" the streams, and you get the option of "converting" truehd to ac3. I'm not sure if the usage of those terms are incorrect, but it made me unsure of how it was working.

[zeropc]

any news regarding the snow leopard support of tsmuxer?

[mrr19121970]

Hopefully this time my message doesn't get deleted.

Thank you for the explanation. This is how I understood that muxing worked, but TsMuxer says it's "decoding" the streams, and you get the option of "converting" truehd to ac3. I'm not sure if the usage of those terms are incorrect, but it made me unsure of how it was working.

To complement Deank's explanation:

Imagine you have a box of peanuts and hazelnuts - it separates them (if you wish in separate bags) or packs them under a different franchise :)

Imagine that the TrueHD and DTS-HD are the chocolate covered variety of peanuts. tsMuxeR simply removes the chocolate off the peanuts, before passing on the CORE. In deank's example, a peanut; but really AC3 or DTS-core.

I beleive tsMuxeR doesn't actually pass on the space savings by giving you only the core audio.

[samtroy]

@deank

Short question:

My new BD-Player (LG BD390) supports playback of "--blu-ray"-muxed BD9s without a problem. Now, would you still keep using "--avchd" for muxing BD9s (like I do right now) or would you use "--blu-ray" from now on? Would there be any advantages for me? What's your opinion on that?

[deank]

I don't know why your question is addressed to me :)

multiAVCHD never used the '--avchd' option of tsMuxeR and you should use whichever option works for your player. If both work and you're not planning on sharing your DVD discs with other people, then it doesn't matter. If you're planning on sharing with relatives/friends, then it is better to use AVCHD.

:) Dean

[samtroy]

Thanks for your fast answer.

I was just thinking that maybe AVCHD has some navigation limitations or limitations when using more than one audiotracks or stuff like that...

[deank]

If your player plays DVDs with blu-ray content then it means it is not restricted by AVCHD standard (the same way PS3 isnt).

The restriction (using DVD media) may manifest itself when using higher bitrates, but you'll notice the stuttering.

[webvan]

Sorry if this is a silly question but I did quite a bit of searching and I can't seem to find an answer.

Here's what I'm trying to do, remux an .mkv (created with makemkv from a DVD and a transcoded video )to .ts (for playback on my PS3 hopefully) and keep all the audio and subtitles. Unfortunately when I open the .mkv with tsmuxer it pops up an "unsupported formats" message and the resulting .ts has no subtitles.

Can it not be done or am I doing something wrong ? Thanks !

[Lincoln Burrows]

Today I decrypted the Blu-ray from the movie Enemy of the State and noticed that two m2ts files were created, the first with 56 mins from the movie, the second with the last 1 hour. Both have almost 20 GB each. When using Total Media Theatre from Arcsoft, it can play both files as if they were one, no lags when looking the 2nd file.

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Using MPC-HC or BSPlayer to play these files will not be a good idea, since they can only open one file at time.

So I need to ask you guys if tsMuxer can help me here to join both parts, but also remove some unwanted audio/subtitle tracks from both of them. How should I proceed to do that, with no reencode, and preserving the BD characteristics, like the exact time were chapters are inserted, and not destroying the BD project when using TMT?

By destroying, I mean, not changing the m2ts files in a way that the audio/subtitle tracks are not recognized anymore by any program or the other folders (PLAYLIST for example) are not invalid and start to break the whole thing after using TsMuxer. "Destroying" a DVD project would be the equivalent of altering a VOB file in a way that IFOs/BUPs can't work like before, so another tool like PGCEdit or IFOEdit needs to be used to correct the whole authoring process/structure.

That's the reason I never attempted to remove the unwanted tracks since I don't know anything about Blu-rays. If we were talking about DVDs, I would say this can be done with no problems using a tool like DVDFab which is capable of removing these tracks and generate the exact DVD project again, with no sign of them.

The only thing it will change is that if you select the missing audio/subtitle track in the animated menu, another will be selected instead. And DVDFab will keep all the DVD project characteristics, nothing will be changed.

But TSMuxer seems to be doing that only on specific m2ts files.

DVDFab is not doing that with DVDs. When you select the VIDEO_TS folder, the program picks the whole thing - IFOs/BUPs/VOBs./etc. and changes all of them, making the DVD project 100% working, without the unwanted tracks.

A Blu-ray project is not only a m2ts file - involves several folders/files called BDMV, CERTIFICATE and ANY. The m2ts file from the movie is only one of those located on the BDMV/STREAM folder.

I just need to know how we may join those two parts and remove some unwanted tracks/subtitles. I don't know if I should select both .m2ts files and push the JOIN button (saving in M2TS output) or if I need to do more than that.

[mrr19121970]

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Yes, plenty. This is called seamless branching and is typical in Disney movies, or movies where there might be 2 or 3 versions on the disk (due to extended cuts, or language specific on screen texts). You can just open the correct MPLS with tsMuxeR and deselect what you don't need and recreate your Blu-Ray just like that.

I've had mostly pretty bad experiences with tsMuxeR on hardware based players, and don't do this anymore. The favoured route is to demux with eac3to and remux with tsMuxeR. The reasoning behind this is the end of file markers, overlaps and gaps in the file produced by tsMuxeR on it's own tend to cause havoc with hardware players (bumps, out of sync or even crashing the machine). Software players on the other hand mostly cope with this.

Please see my sig for more details of how to do what I described.

[Sharc]

Today I decrypted the Blu-ray from the movie Enemy of the State and noticed that two m2ts files were created, the first with 56 mins from the movie, the second with the last 1 hour. Both have almost 20 GB each. When using Total Media Theatre from Arcsoft, it can play both files as if they were one, no lags when looking the 2nd file.

This is the first time EVER I saw a movie being divided into two m2ts files. Are there any more examples out there?

Using MPC-HC or BSPlayer to play these files will not be a good idea, since they can only open one file at time.

So I need to ask you guys if tsMuxer can help me here to join both parts, but also remove some unwanted audio/subtitle tracks from both of them. How should I proceed to do that, with no reencode, and preserving the BD characteristics, like the exact time were chapters are inserted, and not destroying the BD project when using TMT?

First, yes there are many cases where the movie is split into 2 or many more *.m2ts. For example, when a BD contains the 'extended version' and the 'theatre version', the additional segments of the 'extended version' are kept in separate .m2ts, and the playlists will define how these segments are linked during playback for the 'extended version' and the 'theatre version' respectively.

Secondly, you can merge the indidvidual .m2ts of a movie into one big .m2ts (or .ts, Blu-Ray or AVCHD structure), strip unwanted audio and sups tracks with the free Clown_BD (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?p=166910). (Download the full package). Actually Clown_BD uses eac3to and tsmuxer; it just makes it easy for the user and solves some sync issues of tsmuxer. The resulting single merged file (otherwise untouched, i.e. not re-encoded) can be played with mpc, vlc or similar.

Added: I Just noted that mrr19121970 pointed to Clown_BD as well.....

[cavediver]

Or he could use ToNMT to make a single ts or m2ts file.

[Capsbackup]

Or he could use ToNMT to make a single ts or m2ts file.

That is exactly what Clown_BD will do when it is complete.

[THX-UltraII]

Question about TSMuxer:

I have a BR rip on my HDD (BDMW and CERTIFICATE folder). Now I want to add a subtitle (.srt file) to this. I know that when I have a .m2ts file that I can add a .srt file but how do I load a BR folder in TSmuxer? Or is it not possible what I want?

[Dare's User Name]

Any plans to support Windows Media Center's .wtv files?

[idbirch2]

dvr-ms was never supported so highly unlikely. VideReDo does support .wtv though and will allow you to remux to .ts or .mpg which TSmuxer will accept.

[crl2007]

Any chance that in the future tsMuxer to remux a BD splitted across multiple m2ts as multiple m2ts ? For example: if I have a BD with m2ts files from 500 to 524, will tsMuxer be able to recreate those 500 to 524 m2ts files ? It would be extremely great for seamless branched disks.

[idbirch2]

It can do this already as it has playlist support, you just need to point it at the right .mpls file. You may have problems with audio sync though as it does not make any corrections for audio overlap at the split points. It's unlikely this functionality will ever make it into TSMuxer so use eac3to on seamless branching titles - it will demux the streams for you, fixing overlap at the same time. The demuxed streams can then be fed into TSMuxer.

[crl2007]

I use mpls support, but in the end results only 1 m2ts.

[Dare's User Name]

dvr-ms was never supported so highly unlikely. VideReDo does support .wtv though and will allow you to remux to .ts or .mpg which TSmuxer will accept.

VideoReDo is prone to crashing and costs money. I was hoping for something simple and free.

[idbirch2]

Then I wish you well on your search, no problems here with VRD crashing and it was definitely worth the money.

[Ryu77]

Then I wish you well on your search, no problems here with VRD crashing and it was definitely worth the money.

I'll second that! I pretty much only use it for removing commercials from DTV recordings, as it is the only application that I found that can cut the video file with no re-encoding and do it effortlessly with an easy to use interface (it will only re-create frames when needed, no need to re-encode the whole video). For this purpose VideoReDo works very well.

[ExSport]

http://www.cypheros.de/dvb_e.html
For fixing stream and ads/audio removal you can try free TS-Doctor...

[crl2007]

On some BD disks I receive this error.

http://i33.tinypic.com/t7de06.jpg

What does it mean ? How can I bypass it ? Can I demux with eac3to and then load it into tsMuxer ?

[deank]

Usually you will get this error if playlist contents refer to IGS (menu graphics) or TextST (text subtitle streams).

[crl2007]

Is there a slight chance that this streams to be supported in multiavchd or tsmuxer ?

[deank]

You can't remux neither the textst or igs streams, but I wrote a small tool that can extract textST subtitles to srt, so you can later use them.

Here is more info. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501)

[crl2007]

I'm more interested in IGS for PiP features on certain Blu-Ray disks. That's why I wanted to keep those streams intact too. Like Public Enemies, which has U-Control.

[BZeeme]

Roman (or other)

Has development of tsMuxeR stopped? :( No current info at smlabs.net. I seldom use it as stand-alone but other programs I use frequently do use it. I'm considering a donation but don't want to put money on it if it is a dead project.

[73ChargerFan]

It's not dead, it is freeware developed by a commercial company. About once a year, they revisit it and update or add features as required. It is very useful & stable as is.

[jj666]

Yes, I'm sure only about 3 people donated also, which probably doesn't help development.

-jj-

[BZeeme]

That's a shame as tsMuxeR is a critical component of many front-end tools doing BD manipulation.

[G_M_C]

They could also choose to open up the source, to an more Open Source like license format. That's not unusual, even MS does it now and again.

It saves them the trouble of developing it further, and gives them a better developed product in return. They can then use that better tsMuxeR with their own producs, like they do now (it's a part of a suite as i understand).

They might save spending bandwidth, as we can expect the Open Source version to "pop up" in sorceforge or such ;)

So it seems you can make this change benificial for all parties, making that there are several arguments in favour of such a change :)

[73ChargerFan]

G_M_C

Except there is no other tool as functional as this one. IMO, it has a high value to them as a closed source product, that can be sold to a larger company later if they have a cash crisis. But, never say never.

Could you convince madshi about the benefits of open source? :D

[G_M_C]

G_M_C

Except there is no other tool as functional as this one. IMO, it has a high value to them as a closed source product, that can be sold to a larger company later if they have a cash crisis. But, never say never.



You said the crucial thing yourself; "Except there is no other tool as functional as this one".

If that is the case, why havent they capitalized on it already ?

[Pl4yit]

Just wanted to mention a problem that I have come across when feeding tsMuxeR with a PAL mpeg2 file and a SRT subtitle file.

Although the command line parameters indicate to render the subtitles for a video size of 720x576 (PAL), the rendered subtitle stream is in 720x480 (see tsMuxeR log here below copied from the GUI). The result is that the subtitles are not visible during playback.

Command Line:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "D:\video.mpeg2", fps=25
A_AC3, "D:\audio.ac3", lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\English.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=28,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=720,video-height=576,fps=25, lang=eng


Log copied from GUI:
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
MPEG-2 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=25
Decoding MPEG2 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@8. Resolution: 720:576p. Frame rate: 25
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 720:480 Frame rate: 25
Processed 62820 video frames
Creation of AVCHD playlist
Creation of AVCHD stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 5 sec

[deank]

This bug was reported few months ago. That was one of the reasons to add advanced processing of subtitles in multiAVCHD to overcome certain bugs in tsMuxeR.

[Pl4yit]

This bug was reported few months ago. That was one of the reasons to add advanced processing of subtitles in multiAVCHD to overcome certain bugs in tsMuxeR.

OK.
Thanks, Dean.

[deank]

Another option is to prepare your subtitles first and then use tsMuxeR. You can convert your SRT to SUP/PGS with easySUP (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149160) and then tsMuxeR will mux them just fine and they will be visible.

[Pl4yit]

Another option is to prepare your subtitles first and then use tsMuxeR. You can convert your SRT to SUP/PGS with easySUP (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149160) and then tsMuxeR will mux them just fine and they will be visible.

Great. I will have a look at EasySUP. Thanks for the info.

[Ryu77]

It's not dead, it is freeware developed by a commercial company. About once a year, they revisit it and update or add features as required. It is very useful & stable as is.

Once a year? The first release was in Jan 2008 and there have been close to 20 revisions since then (I could be wrong here as that was just a guess from the top of my head).

I think the reason why there was a delay of a few months for the most recent release is that tsMuxeR (as you said) has got to quite a stable point now. There might be a few little bugs still, but I haven't come across any.

[73ChargerFan]

Once a year? The first release was in Jan 2008 and there have been close to 20 revisions since then
Yeah, 8 at the beginning, then none for almost a year, then 12 more. I'm happy though.

[Boulder]

I'm trying to mux a 5.1-channel AAC track with a video file, but tsMuxerR GUI doesn't recognize the file :( The audio file is created out of a regular dts file using eac3to. Is there anything to check before I start looking for a different transport stream muxer?

[deank]

No, just convert your DTS to AC3 5.1 (not to AAC). AAC is not supported in Blu-ray/AVCHD anyway.

[Boulder]

I'd like to use the transport stream in my Popcorn Hour A-110, which decodes TS in hardware. Thus no need for Blu-ray compatibility :)

[deank]

Okay, but still you decided to reencode audio from DTS to AAC. If you want to use tsMuxeR, reencode it to AC3 instead and it will be okay.

[Beastie Boy]

I'm trying to mux a 5.1-channel AAC track with a video file, but tsMuxerR GUI doesn't recognize the file :( The audio file is created out of a regular dts file using eac3to. Is there anything to check before I start looking for a different transport stream muxer?

tsMuxeR will accept AAC audio, but it must be a raw file, not in a container. MP4 or m4a files won't work. I tried this some time ago and used YAMB with mp4Box to demux the .aac stream from the container.
I did find that I had errors if the bitrate was too high, ie quailty greater than .90 or something with the Nero encoder.

Hope this helps. Cheers, Beastie.

[Boulder]

Thanks, that info will help me a lot :)

[M-Blaster]

The main movie of some new released blu-ray consists of several small and big .m2ts files.

1. Is there a comfortable function to identify the .m2ts files that are containing the main movie?
2. Is there an easy way to merge them ( f. g. 00001.m2ts till 00023.m2ts) into one big .m2ts file?

[crl2007]

You identify them with BDInfo. And you merge them with eac3to. Or with tsMuxer.

[asc28]

Can't seem to mux with negative timeshifts for an ac3 track. Tried tsMuxer and GUI 1.10.6 on multiple ac3's. Always the same result: mux is fine, but delay is wrong in the output file
tsmuxer 01.meta 01.tsMUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "D:\01.m2v", fps=29.970
A_AC3, "D:\01.ac3", timeshift=-100mstsmuxer 01.tsSmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Track ID: 4113
Stream type: MPEG-2
Stream ID: V_MPEG-2
Stream info: Profile: Main@8. Resolution: 720:480i. Frame rate: 29.97
Stream lang:
Track ID: 4352
Stream type: AC3
Stream ID: A_AC3
Stream info: Bitrate: 224Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Stream lang: eng
Stream delay: 28

[tebasuna51]

Can't seem to mux with negative timeshifts for an ac3 track. Tried tsMuxer and GUI 1.10.6 on multiple ac3's. Always the same result: mux is fine, but delay is wrong in the output file

Bad idea use audio timeshifts/delay of containers.
Always is best use DelayCut to cut or delay an audio to sync with video before mux.

[asc28]

Bad idea use audio timeshifts/delay of containers.
Always is best use DelayCut to cut or delay an audio to sync with video before mux.Thought non-destructive timeshifts was the whole point of having this feature in a container. It's also advertised in the example shown in the readme. Can anyone confirm that negative timeshifts work?

[Inspector.Gadget]

Negative delays work here using TSMuxer / TSMuxerGUI 1.10.6. Demuxed DTS is bit-identical to original imported from MKV container.

[jdobbs]

Thought non-destructive timeshifts was the whole point of having this feature in a container. It's also advertised in the example shown in the readme. Can anyone confirm that negative timeshifts work?They work for me (v1.10.6).

[asc28]

Thanks. I wonder what's wrong for me, anyone noticed any mistakes in the meta or command-line?

[laserfan]

Thanks. I wonder what's wrong for me, anyone noticed any mistakes in the meta or command-line?The meta looks fine to me, but what do you mean when you say "delay is wrong in the output file"? Audio out-of-sync? Have you tried other values?

The (very) few times I have experienced out-of-sync audio it's taken me quite a few tries (at re-muxing with different timeshift values) to get it perfect. And I find I'm always guessing wrong at plus or minus timeshift values. :o

[Capsbackup]

I too have found that negative time shifts do not seem to work with tsMuxeR.
At least, if you set the delay to a negative number, remux that file, and then check the results with tsMuxeR GUI, the .m2ts will not have the negative delay you set before the mux when you highlight the audio track.
I have reported this before, but this is the first I have read that someone else has experienced the same issue.

EDIT: previous report:
http://85.230.118.136/showthread.php?p=1325855#post1325855

[asc28]

The meta looks fine to me, but what do you mean when you say "delay is wrong in the output file"? Audio out-of-sync? Have you tried other values?I mean that when you analyze the ts with tsmuxer or eac3to, the delay isn't what you set it to.

[Capsbackup]

I mean that when you analyze the ts with tsmuxer or eac3to, the delay isn't what you set it to.

I agree, this is what I experienced too!
I have not found any other original BluRays that have a negative audio delay, luckily. Pirates of the Caribbean 3 At Worlds End is the only one. Since a -12ms is probably too small to make a noticeable async, I have not followed up with this concern.

[laserfan]

I mean that when you analyze the ts with tsmuxer or eac3to, the delay isn't what you set it to.Ok, but has the setting been incorporated into the mux? I have only had sync errors in a few instances, but I've never *not been able* to use timeshift to fix them (though it has involved for me many attempts trial-and-error to get sync perfect).

But no, I've also never used tsmuxer to try to read the file again and see the changes I made.

[Capsbackup]

Ok, but has the setting been incorporated into the mux? I have only had sync errors in a few instances, but I've never *not been able* to use timeshift to fix them (though it has involved for me many attempts trial-and-error to get sync perfect).

But no, I've also never used tsmuxer to try to read the file again and see the changes I made.

For me, the timeshift value inserted by either the command line thru BD-RB or tsMuxeR GUI is not the same value that the remuxed file has when read again thru tsMuxeR. My example had such a minor delay, (-12ms) that it was not going to be noticeable.
My only point is that tsMuxer does not seem to honor the negative delay amount inserted, so if a file had a delay that would be apparent, the timeshift option in tsMuxeR would not correct this.
This, to me, is more of a problem when using BD-RB in full movie backup mode, especially with PiP, since manually correcting such a delay is not an option outside of BD-RB and then being able to substitute back into BD-RB without breaking the full movie playback.
For a movie only backup, there are other options to correct the delay, at least for AC3 audio. I'm not sure if there is an option for a DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD audio file though.

[deank]

Are you sure that the negative delay is not properly applied?

Do not get confused by the value you set and the one you see after a 're-check'.

I think m2ts container is not as flexible as mkv and achieving a larger negative delay may sometimes require cutting the audio stream. Me - I never had any troubles with -500ms or -600ms delay. I played a lot and +/- was always properly processed (at least with h.264/avc video).

Dean

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
I have only had one movie that had a negative audio delay. I did try this one several times though, with the same results.
Perhaps the value( -12ms) is too small, but I doubt it.
I have tested other positive audio delays, and after a recheck, the .m2ts file does have the same positive delay as the original.
This was why I believed there was an issue with negative delays, and responded to asc28.
However, it is encouraging to see your results differ and you have had many more attempts to try than me! :)
Yours is surely a better, more favorable result than ours, especially with the lack of updates and responses from the tsMuxeR developers.

[laserfan]

It always works for me too. My assumption would be that your -12ms change "took" (worked) but it's VERY hard (impossible?) to judge "by eye". I usually trial/error with 20 or 50ms and before looking again at the result.

[Capsbackup]

Like I said, it was hard to tell if the audio was async with only -12ms to begin with. My only point is that if the original displays a negative audio delay when viewing with tsMuxeR GUI, the resulting remuxed .m2ts was not displaying that same delay after setting the negative delay within tsMuxeR and viewing the remuxed file again, with tsMuxeR GUI.
The original and backup both appear to have audio sync.
If the software displays an audio delay with the original, be it negative or positive, then should the remuxed file also display that same audio delay when viewed after remux with tsMuxeR GUI?
If the software corrects the audio delay, as programs like delaycut 1.3.0.0 does, then I would not expect to see an audio delay reported on the remuxed file when viewed with tsMuxeR GUI.
EDIT:
I don't believe this is the way tsMuxeR works though. I experienced an 83ms audio delay on a movie that was noticeable, and after applying the 83ms delay, the remuxed file, when viewed thru tsMuxeR GUI, displayed this same audio delay as the original.

[laserfan]

If the software displays an audio delay with the original, be it negative or positive, then should the remuxed file also display that same audio delay when viewed after remux with tsMuxeR GUI?This is of course very different from the question raised "does negative timeshift work?" cuz it clearly does work.

[asc28]

It works for practical purposes, but it doesn't do it by writing a negative delay metadata. Instead, it cuts the audio destructively (by more than the delay you wanted if it's between a specific AC3 packet frame size), then it applies positive delay to compensate for any overcutting.

[Capsbackup]

It works for practical purposes, but it doesn't do it by writing a negative delay metadata. Instead, it cuts the audio destructively (by more than the delay you wanted if it's between a specific AC3 packet frame size), then it applies positive delay to compensate for any overcutting.

If this is true, it might explain why my -12ms delay, after running it thru tsMuxeR, produced a 20ms(positive) delay on recheck with tsMuxeR. :confused:
Of course, I did not ever experience a noticeable delay regardless, but understanding the way the software treats the delay is good to know.

[jdobbs]

It works for practical purposes, but it doesn't do it by writing a negative delay metadata. Instead, it cuts the audio destructively (by more than the delay you wanted if it's between a specific AC3 packet frame size), then it applies positive delay to compensate for any overcutting. That's the logical way to do it. You have to start on a packet boundary, and you can't set a negative PTS. The alternative would be to delay the video by an equivalent amount -- but then you are left having to deal with every other stream's time (like PGSs, other audio, etc).

[SUPERBIF]

I'm new to this, but I'm trying to convert my HD DVD to Blu-Rays.

There's some strange things I found out.
I use evodemux to strip and only have 1 video and 1 audio track.

When I have stripped and take it into tsmuxer. I can see it says 1080i and 29.97fps.

I then press remove pulldown so it says 24000/1001.


My questions are:

1. Why does it not show 1080p and 23.976fps in the first place?
2. Is it okay to remove pulldown to force it to 23.976?
3. When I use mediainfo on the original evo file it shows 24.8 Mbit bitrate, but when I take the converted Blu-Ray it shows 18 Mbit. Shouldn't the bitrate be the same when it's not compressed?
4. Also I can see mediainfo shows audiodelay sometimes were tsMuxer doesn't show any. What should I count on?
5. Does it matter that the original in mediainfo shows (scan order 3:2 pulldown) and in the convertet shows (scan order button field first)?

[whitemandingo]

It looks like I found the right thread. I too have been struggling with audio sync on a couple of titles. I've remuxed many times with different delay values, but can never get the sync just right. I know there are some smart folks on this thread so maybe someone here can help.

From a practical standpoint, when playing the BDMV folder with VLC I can use the track synchronization option in VLC to get the audio/video sync perfect. The setting is: advance of audio over video= -3.000s Assuming this is a valid point of reference, could a formula be applied to determine the correct tsumuxer delay value so the output streams are in sync? Or, does ac3 packet boundary compensation make this unfeasible?

[dvdboy]

I don't know if I'm doing something stupid, but when I try to playback the output I create below in VLC, I get three video tracks, no audio tracks:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "\\192.168.3.6\TEST\{stitched sources}_MPEG.m2v", fps=25
A_LPCM, "\\192.168.3.6\TEST\test 28 01_02 25fps.wav", lang=jpn
A_LPCM, "\\192.168.3.6\TEST\test 28 03_04 25fps.wav", lang=eng

Is this a VLC bug, or am I doing something stupid.

[laserfan]

I too have been struggling with audio sync... From a practical standpoint, when playing the BDMV folder with VLC I can use the track synchronization option in VLC to get the audio/video sync perfect. The setting is: advance of audio over video= -3.000s Assuming this is a valid point of reference, could a formula be applied to determine the correct tsumuxer delay value so the output streams are in sync?Wow, 3 seconds is a lot; I've never had an effort anywhere close to 3 seconds out.

Sorry, I don't know any "magic formula" for getting this right myself, though I've never used VLC for this (will try it next time). I have only done trial & error with tsMuxeR, which fortunately is easy to do and only takes a few minutes to re-mux for every trial.

Of course, the other wild card is the PC playback mechanism i.e. once you've re-muxed the thing, playing it back and observing the sync. I've used PowerDVD for this though it's not perfect itself.

[whitemandingo]

It's not actually 3 seconds so it may not be a valid point of reference for tsmuxer, but that's the correct VLC setting to make it sync perfectly in VLC and it's off the same amount no matter which computer it's played on so system specs are not a variable. I'm not sure what the actual delay is, but it's enough to be annoying if not corrected and too much to commit it to DVDR+DL for playback on set-top player or PS3. I was hoping the VLC reference might be enough to translate into a correct tsmuxer setting if someone else has experienced this.

[asc28]

and you can't set a negative PTS.Why then do we see negative delays in commercial transport streams (i.e. m2ts on Blu-rays)?

[rapscallion]

It's not actually 3 seconds so it may not be a valid point of reference for tsmuxer, but that's the correct VLC setting to make it sync perfectly in VLC and it's off the same amount no matter which computer it's played on so system specs are not a variable. I'm not sure what the actual delay is, but it's enough to be annoying if not corrected and too much to commit it to DVDR+DL for playback on set-top player or PS3. I was hoping the VLC reference might be enough to translate into a correct tsmuxer setting if someone else has experienced this.
I have a movie that is over 4 sec out of sync in VLC.
When I enter that #, a neg btw (-4100ms), it syncs perfectly when I create an MKV or run through tsmuxer.(mediainfo shows a positve 28ms though) Yet, if I enter 28ms and Mediaifo shows 28ms, it is completely out of sync. Go figure.

So, to answer your question, the VLC sync # is valid for other apps.

[jdobbs]

I have a movie that is over 4 sec out of sync in VLC.
When I enter that #, a neg btw (-4100ms), it syncs perfectly when I create an MKV or run through tsmuxer.(mediainfo shows a positve 28ms though) Yet, if I enter 28ms and Mediaifo shows 28ms, it is completely out of sync. Go figure.

So, to answer your question, the VLC sync # is valid for other apps. That's probably because after removing the -4100ms the 28ms point was the nearest boundary. So the +28ms correction was made to put it in sync. Just a quess.

[laserfan]

I've found a couple problems w/tsMuxeR lately:

1. Using the CLI to mux a video/audio/subtitle to BD I got no video (black, audio OK). After many attempts to fiddle with the .meta file, I discovered that by using the GUI, the GUI threw an immediate error importing the audio file--"Can't detect stream type." Turns out the initial frame(s) of the audiotrack were at fault. But the point is that the CLI version didn't care, nor did it throw any errors, and the resultant mux showed blank video.

2. tsMuxeR BD output (i.e. to m2ts) shows no subtitle if a negative timeshift value is entered into the meta file. I had to finally change subtitle timings in the .srt file to get the thing to appear, and to appear in-sync with the video.

I dunno if the size of my attempted timeshift was a factor (I was trying timeshift=-3500ms for example). I have some more tv shows to do and will likely get some more experience/examples of this.

[fjhdavid]

Sorry to ask a stupid question:

I want to mux a BD disc which contains 40 streams and I didn't find a way to put them, all together and in one shot, in the "input files" field via the "input" and "join" commands. I mean I have to take one by one each of the 40 streams! (the shift or ctrl doesen't seem to work in order to select all of them in one shot).

Does I have to do something special? (a combo keys...)

Thanks
Francois

[jdobbs]

Sorry to ask a stupid question:

I want to mux a BD disc which contains 40 streams and I didn't find a way to put them, all together and in one shot, in the "input files" field via the "input" and "join" commands. I mean I have to take one by one each of the 40 streams! (the shift or ctrl doesen't seem to work in order to select all of them in one shot).

Does I have to do something special? (a combo keys...)

Thanks
Francois Open the associated MPLS file instead, and TSMUXER will gather the associated streams on its own. You can use BDEDIT to see which MPLS holds which streams.

[fjhdavid]

there are the same number of "MPLS files" than "STREAM files"
is it normal?

[crl2007]

Yes. You can have 00003.mpls and 00100.m2ts as the movie stream, or you can have 00000.mpls and 00000.m2ts.

[Capsbackup]

there are the same number of "MPLS" than "STREAM"
is it normal?

If you open BDInfo, and point it to the BluRay folder, it will tell you which .mpls is associated with which .m2ts file/files. Then, open tsMuxeR, and select add, pointing it to the "Playlist" folder and the .mpls file that BDInfo showed. There can be more than one .mpls file for a given movie, so compare the length of the movie to what you want. ( there could be a theatrical version and extended version ).

[coolguy]

I have an MKV file which is 1280x534. I guess due to this odd resolution when converted to AVCHD, my PS3 is displaying a big green bar at bottom of the screen.

How to fix this? TIA!

[MadMonkey57]

I have an MKV file which is 1280x534. I guess due to this odd resolution when converted to AVCHD, my PS3 is displaying a big green bar at bottom of the screen.

How to fix this? TIA!
Reencode to 1280x720

[ExSport]

Or you can use uncropMKV or MultiAVCHD.
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1347798&postcount=3836
When you build blu-ray/avchd format, then it is possible to eliminate green bars also without re-encoding in MultiAVCHD.

[consultant]

Does anyone know of software that will mux an m2ts file with a FLAC soundtrack. I've been demuxing raw PCM and HD soundtracks to FLAC but TSMuxer (used by RipBot and a host of other programs) doesn't read FLAC apparently? I don't want to use MKV containers. Just wondering if it is even possible and if so, which program will MUX it?

[setarip_old]

Just wondering if it is even possible...No, it's not...

[k-c-ksum]

will there be support for cyrillic character sets as currently all fonts are characterset : Default reguardless :(

[deank]

I never had problems with cyrillic fonts... Make sure you set your Windows installation (control panel/regional settings/advanced) to use 1251 for non-Unicode programs/texts.

Dean

[consultant]

I'm demuxing an m2ts file for a movie which has a PCM audio track. It keeps splitting the audio into 2 wav files. Anyway to prevent it from doing this?

[k-c-ksum]

I never had problems with cyrillic fonts... Make sure you set your Windows installation (control panel/regional settings/advanced) to use 1251 for non-Unicode programs/texts.

Dean

mediaplayer classic can play the srt's fine its when i mux that srt file with txmuxer into a stream it wont stay as cyrillic. i wil try your recommendation.

Next :)

how do i stop tsmuxer from messing the order of the main feature/secondary streams up in a remux, it moves the main feature to position 1 resulting in the wrong video being played once back inside the bluray structure. Is it a feature not available in the gui? command line hurts my head

[tebasuna51]

I'm demuxing an m2ts file for a movie which has a PCM audio track. It keeps splitting the audio into 2 wav files. Anyway to prevent it from doing this?
Use eac3to to demux PCM audio, you can obtain a .wav file >4GB (not always supported for other audio soft) or a .w64 file with a header than support >4GB.

BTW, I think TsMuxer is still buggy demuxing PCM.

[Mtouset]

TSMuxer error results. Unfortunately I am at work now and while I did a couple of screen shots of my error results and emailed them to myself here at work, the email failed to get through. There error reads something like this: "Not enought buffer to parse" ????? If this is not familiar to you or anyone then I'll have to wait for COB today to send you the scr shots that contain the actual wording. Because the versio I used is on the scrn shot, I didn't take note of which version it is. I'm running an ASUSl 920 MB with an intel i7 processor with W7. I encode the video file with MeGui 0.3.3.

[Ghitulescu]

The changelog and the first post of this thread and the homepage insist in claiming that tsmuxer recognizes PGS subtitles in M2TS files. However, not a single file of mine which contains such streams has been recognized.

The source is HDTV satellite, the format is .M2TS (the same thing happens even after conversion to .TS), however the video and the audios are recognized and kept.

What is wrong?

[jdobbs]

The changelog and the first post of this thread and the homepage insist in claiming that tsmuxer recognizes PGS subtitles in M2TS files. However, not a single file of mine which contains such streams has been recognized.

The source is HDTV satellite, the format is .M2TS (the same thing happens even after conversion to .TS), however the video and the audios are recognized and kept.

What is wrong? It works on blu-ray m2ts files.

[SeeMoreDigital]

The source is HDTV satellite, the format is .M2TS (the same thing happens even after conversion to .TS), however the video and the audios are recognized and kept.Given you live in Germany, the subtitles are most probably DVB based... Not PGS.

[Rodger]

Maybe I can help!
I think tsmuxer regognizes the EPG-Info or Teletext-Info within the stream as subtitle. I remember having recorded somethings like that myself a while ago.

Try "TS-doctor" for more informations.

[Ghitulescu]

Given you live in Germany, the subtitles are most probably DVB based... Not PGS.

Well, we are catching close :p in case you refer to Teletext subtitles (like page 888) as "DVB based" since we have also the other ones (ETSI EN 300743).

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, we are catching close :p in case you refer to Teletext subtitles (like page 888) as "DVB based" since we have also the other ones (ETSI EN 300743).Wow... good 'ol "teletext" subtitles eh...

As far as I know, the format has now been dropped from all UK digital TV transmission platforms :eek:

[Ghitulescu]

It works on blu-ray m2ts files.
I know, but for now my only source of HDTV remains the Satellite and of course the movie stores (BDs). Most of the sat senders provide TXT subs (it's not mandatory in Germany), but some have also the bitmap type. Sometimes I can demux them with PjX, sometimes not.
I think tsmuxer regognizes the EPG-Info or Teletext-Info within the stream as subtitle. I remember having recorded somethings like that myself a while ago.
That's what I use for converting to .TS. And yes, it's the only freeware (or testversion) that keep the subtitles, while cutting H.264 (which PjX cannot, yet). I wonder why I didn't notice it can also demux the subtitles :confused: I'll run a test, next weekend.
As far as I know, the format has now been dropped from all UK digital TV transmission platforms :eek:
No more deaf people in the UK, now that's what I call modern medicine.:p Maybe sometime in the summer I'll add ASTRA 28° to my collection, to see how BBC HD looks like.

[SeeMoreDigital]

No more deaf people in the UK, now that's what I call modern medicine.:p.Subtitles for the deaf/hard of hearing are totally DVB based now ;)

[moviefan]

I'm experiencing problems when muxing a H264 stream audio (AC3) and PGS subtitles when muxing to Blu-ray. tsMuxer reports after 4.1% "Unexpected byte P during parsing Object definition segment". When I mux without the subtitles muxing works. Can anyone help what is wrong here?

[deank]

Try to load the SUP file in BDsup2sub - it will probably fix it for you, then load it again in tsMuxeR.

[moviefan]

Thanks, I did that and "converted" the sub to a .sup file again and it works now! However there's now another problem: When I try to demux an m2ts file, the process aborts after a couple of seconds. I've demuxed a lot with tsMuxer and this is the first time it doesn't work. Any suggestions? eac3to doesn't work either.

[k-c-ksum]

as posted in the mux subtitle while keeping menu thread, the tsmuxer gui messes wthe stream order of a remux that contains the secondary streams before the main stream the remuxed output puts the main movie in positiion 1 so when its played from the menu it plays the wrong stream :(

on a side note - sorted cyrillic text :)

[zeropc]

say, why does tsmuxer change the audio i enter on it's own on the outputted file?

i enter -6ms and the new file has +5ms

is that normal and is the audio still synced?

[deank]

Read just few pages back. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1347798#post1347798)

[sfcav]

tsMuxeR not recognizing ac3 track?

I have an mpg file that contains a 1080i MPEG-2 video track and an ac3 audio track that I'm trying to mux into AVCHD format. However, when I try to load the file into tsMuxeR, the video loads fine but I get a "Some tracks not recognized . . " error for the audio and that track doesn't show up. The file in question contains no errors in VideoReDo, plays fine in Media Player Classic, and has the following audio details in MediaInfo:

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 1h 31mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 251 MiB (3%)

This is the first time I've had this problem - any thoughts on how to solve it?

sfcav

[Ghitulescu]

Run the .TS stream in TS Doctor (it's still free for another 7 days) to clean the whole thing. I assume it's a HDTV broadcast ;)

[sfcav]

That's correct - it's HDTV captured with CapDVHS as a 1080i .ts file.

TS Doctor didn't find any errors, and audio in the "fixed" file was also not recognized by tsMuxeR. I also tried MPEG Corrector and mpeg2repair, but neither made any difference.

[LoneSwan]

tsMuxeR not recognizing ac3 track?

I have an mpg file that contains a 1080i MPEG-2 video track and an ac3 audio track that I'm trying to mux into AVCHD format. However, when I try to load the file into tsMuxeR, the video loads fine but I get a "Some tracks not recognized . . " error for the audio and that track doesn't show up. The file in question contains no errors in VideoReDo,
This is the first time I've had this problem - any thoughts on how to solve it?

sfcav

I had a similar problem. AC3 6 channel audio was being played back as 2 channel PCM by my WDTV media player. tsMuxeR would sometimes report "Some tracks not recognized" when I loaded a transport stream capture file for testing.

I found that the audio stream in the original broadcast was shifting from AC3 2 channel to 6 channel. Software players follow this change, but hardware media players may not. My WDTV locked onto the 2 channel and output everything that followed as stereo PCM.

The solution was to carefully edit the original *.ts with VideoReDo, making sure that the first edit was on a frame that contained the desired AC3 6 channel audio (not 2 channel from an intro or commercial). After reopening the edited *.ts in tsMuxeR, AC3 6 channel was displayed. The WDTV output AC3 6 channel, which was what I was trying to fix.

[Capsbackup]

Another option that has worked for me is to demux the file with DGindex, try and run the .ac3 thru delaycut 1.3.0.0, but it looks like you tried a similar option.
Since that did not work, you can reencode the audio with either BeSweetv1.5b31 or another encoder, and this will correct the problem.

[sfcav]

Thansks LoneSwan and Capsbackup for the suggestions.

In retrospect, it WAS surprizing that MediaInfo and VideoReDo were reporting that the file was 2-channel when they have more typically been 6-channel. I therefore removed some of the first few frames into the company intro and now it's reported as being 6-channel! Moreover, it now opens fine in tsMuxeR : )

LoneSwan - How did you notice that the audio was changing, and is there a way to "see" where the switch takes place?

[LoneSwan]

LoneSwan - How did you notice that the audio was changing, and is there a way to "see" where the switch takes place?

I sometimes use Nero Showtime (version 3) to view the *.ts video file. There is an option to View/"Show Additional Info on OSD". If you toggle this option ON, data about the current video will be overlayed on the display window while the source is playing. This information is continually updated and is only shown while video is actually playing (disappears when paused). Therefore it is an easy way to see what is happening with the media file in real time, such as 2 channel vs. 6 channel audio or the actual video bitrate and FPS.

I was using eac3to to demux the problem *.ts file when tsMuxeR reported an error opening the audio track. Usually, I just use eac3to to convert TrueHD and DTS MA to standard 5.1 channel AC3. I noticed that it was still reporting 2 channel AC3 when I thought I had edited to only the 6 channel program source. Therefore, I went back to VideoReDo and started cutting one I-frame further into the program and testing the result. I found that it was necessary to move to about the 3rd I-frame into the start (of a movie, in this case) in order to be sure to get an accurate 6 channel audio frame.

This is a fairly new problem. Until recently, I would trim the beginning of a movie capture to just after the intro fade. But the program suppliers must have changed something, because I started seeing 2 channel output when I knew the source was AC3 5.1(6 channel). Evidently, hardware media players as well as tsMuxeR are not designed to "see past" the first audio frame?

[0028606]

TsMuxer can now be used on Snow Leopard.
Somwone called VoxMac has created a custom GUI that runs without issue on snow Leopard

Take a look at the blog here for dowload link
http://instantitunes.wordpress.com/

[VoxMac]

TsMuxer can now be used on Snow Leopard.
Somwone called VoxMac has created a custom GUI that runs without issue on snow Leopard

Take a look at the blog here for dowload link
http://instantitunes.wordpress.com/
Thanks for quoting my Hack, but my initial post wasn't on that link, but on this macrumors thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=766885) and more precisely on that message (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9003541&postcount=11)
and of course also as comments on Smartlabs official blog (http://blog.smartlabs.tv/2009/03/new-tsmuxer-1824-is-released.html).
Et pour les francophones, j'ai posté sur MacBidouille (http://forum.macbidouille.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=257512&view=findpost&p=3148612), MacGeneration (http://forums.macgeneration.com/5331223-post25.html) ou Mac4Ever (http://forum.mac4ever.com/tsmuxer-sous-snow-leopard-t48988.html).
It's the only places where I sometimes give help for issues with the hack.

VoxMac

[B3-bomber]

The links for the files are dead. 404 error. Specifically the windows files, I'm not gonna try the links for the mac stuff.

[Underground78]

The links for the files are dead. 404 error. Specifically the windows files, I'm not gonna try the links for the mac stuff.

The first post is not up-to-date : last version is 1.10.6 ( http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.10.6.zip).

[Beak]

Hello.

I would like to add a feature request for some future release.

When making AVCHD's with a subtitle stream, the subs have to be enabled manually on my PS3.

It would be great if there was an option to force the subtitle stream if required.

Thanks to anyone involved in this great tool.

[maldino800]

Both MK2VOB and multiAVCHD support the non-western subtitles,srt.But tsMuxeR not support non-westren subtitles,srt.Anyone have any idea why about this ??

Thanks for any help.

[deank]

Make sure you open and re-save your subtitles as ANSI (not UTF-8). Also if your windows system is not set to the proper code-page for non-unicode texts you'll never get it to work.

[maldino800]

Make sure you open and re-save your subtitles as ANSI (not UTF-8). Also if your windows system is not set to the proper code-page for non-unicode texts you'll never get it to work.

Thanks for answer.
Whatever works with tsMuxeR, it does not support non-vestlig subtitle..
I am using multiAVCHD and MKV2VOB,to make AVCHD ,both of them support all types of srt subtitles :)

[rapscallion]

Thanks for answer.
Whatever works with tsMuxeR, it does not support non-vestlig subtitle..
I am using multiAVCHD and MKV2VOB,to make AVCHD ,both of them support all types of srt subtitles :)

I haven't been so lucky. I'll load an srt by itself (non English parts) @ 57KB and when easysub processes it, it results in an error.

Likewise, when I mux an srt sub file with tsmuxer (avchd output) the sub settings have no effect.
For example, if I change the font size from the default 65 to 48 it still ouputs 65. Same with the other settings, no visible changes.

Any suggestions?

[nekrosoft13]

also have a weird audio problem

audio info
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 42mn 54s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 5 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : 32ms
Stream size : 118 MiB (11%)

TSmuxer will not accept the file, and delaycut won't find any errors

help?

[Pelican9]

I've made a success with getting the BD menu structure, so I'm thinking about the editing. I would like to make an m2ts file with an IGS (no other stream only PID1400 and the mandatory ones).
I can generate the elementary IG stream, probably can make the PES stream but I have no idea how can I mux this stream to mpeg2 packets. I know the packet formats but I don't know anything about the first 4 byte timecode and when should I stuff a PAT or PMT or PCR_PID between my packets.
Could anyone point me in the right direction?

Or any chance to put a new feature to tsMuxer to make the mux? I can make a similar file like the PG sup with the elementary IG.
It could be the best for me. :)

[hewwra]

I have several full bluray movies in folder structure on my NAS and I thought it would be a good idea to remove all the stuff that I don't use anyway in order to save some space and it worked with a few exceptions.
Kill Bill 2 and Sin City will not play when I try to play them in MPC HC with internal ffmpeg filter, the screen is just black and the time stays on 00:00:00.
I have no problem playing the same movies in MPC HC when they are in original bluray structure. The settings I used were to keep 1080p video, truehd/DTS HD audio and English subtitles. I did not see any error in the logs. I used the Clown bd gui.
Is this a known problem with some movies and is there anything I can do in order to fix it?

[HELLFISH]

I saw a post (http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?p=73330#p73330) over on the handbrake forums that say tsmuxer confuses the frame rate with the timebase and muxes x264 output at 90000fps.

Is this the case, or does handbrake have an issue? I don't want to waste my time with handbrake if all the encodes will be borked.

[NSI]

also have a weird audio problem

TSmuxer will not accept the file, and delaycut won't find any errors

help?
I just had a similar problem. Try a negative cut of -352ms to prepend 11 frames of good data to the beginning of the file. That's all the farther tsMuxerR checks. Then apply a 352ms delay to the audio when muxing.

[sebhag]

anybody know if there is a way to set audio and video PID's with tsmuxer to specific values?


thanks!

[b66pak]

@NSI nice hack...
_

[rapscallion]

.... when I mux an srt sub file with tsmuxer (avchd output) the sub settings have no effect.
For example, if I change the font size from the default 65 to 48 it still ouputs 65. Same with the other settings, no visible changes.

Any suggestions?
Posted this back on 3/9 and got no reponses. Anyone know how to get the sub settings to work ??

[k-c-ksum]

Is DTS EXPRESS audio demux/muxing in the works?

[laserfan]

Posted this back on 3/9 and got no reponses. Anyone know how to get the sub settings to work??Show us your tsMuxeR commands/meta file.

The tsMuxeR settings work; have you ever tried importing your .srt to Subtitle Workshop? Maybe you need to open with Notepad and output as ANSI?

[deank]

If the .srt file contains <font / size / color > tags it is possible that they override your setting in tsMuxeR_GUI. I don't think it ever happened to me, but you may open the srt in subtitleworkshop and check it yourself.

[rapscallion]

@laserfan and deank. Thanks for the responses.

I didn't save the meta file, but the srt was saved as an Ansi.

Here's the srt, in notepad :

1
00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,480
This dam project
will create many newjobs.

2
00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,960
The Party and country
will assist in your relocation.

3
00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,160
Grandma, give me your hand.

4
00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,040
- But where are they taking us?
- It'll be all right.

5
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,520
Brother!

6
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,360
Grandma, I will send you money.

7
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,640
Who can write?

8
00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,840
Who can read?

9
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,400
Who can weld?

10
00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,840
I put a lot of faith
into your organization.

11
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400
It's a perfect replica, Roland.

12
00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,120
There are too many fanatics out there
that could damage her.

13
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,680
Just think about the beautiful Buddha
statues they blew up in Afghanistan.

14
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,800
Our Heritage Organization
has already made selections...

15
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800
...from the British Museum
and L'Hermitage.

16
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160
I guess she'll be safe now,
tucked away...

17
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,520
...hidden in some bunker
in Switzerland.

18
00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,120
Perfectly safe, Roland.

19
00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,200
Only infrared analysis
would reveal the difference.

20
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,600
But it's still a fake.

21
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,280
I feared you would not come.

22
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Zultan, listen to me...

23
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
...we are fighters,
we never go down...

24
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
...no matter how hard they hit us.

25
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,280
Kill the bastard.

26
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,680
Yuri, where are you going?

27
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,280
Yuri?

28
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:24,360
Do not believe in something simply
because you have heard it, Nima.

29
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,240
But, great Lama,
Tenzin is my brother.

30
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,240
He works inside the big tunnel,
where the ships are built.

31
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,760
But what is there in your wisdom,
great Lama, if Tenzin is right?

32
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,840
What if our world
is indeed coming to an end?

33
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,200
it is full, great Rinpoche.

34
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Like this cup...

35
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,720
...you are full of opinions
and speculations.

36
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,400
To see the light of wisdom...

37
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,600
...you first must empty your cup.

38
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,760
Be careful with the clutch.

39
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,600
it tends to slip.

40
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,920
- Grandma.
- Grandpa, Nima is here!

41
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,280
Grandma,
I got a message from Tenzin.

42
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,440
He wants us to meet him
in Cho Ming at the west gate.

43
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,120
He says he can get us on the ships
he's working on.

44
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,360
What are you talking about?
Tenzin works on the dam.

45
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Grandma...

46
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,240
...the dam is a ship!
The government lied to us.

47
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,680
There will be a big flood!

48
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,800
We must pack up right away.

49
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,720
Nima, he gave you the truck?

50
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,640
We took a trip
on the Laem Song ferry once.

51
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,840
Grandpa threw up the whole way.

52
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,640
Let's eat first.

53
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:31,760
Who are they?

54
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,640
We found them along side
of the road.

55
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,360
Send them back!

56
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,400
I am a follower...

57
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,040
...of our great Lama Rinpoche.

58
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,240
You know I cannot do that.

59
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:29,640
We are all children of the earth.

60
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,320
My plan will not work for so many,
Grandma.

61
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:37,400
We will take them all.

62
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:36,760
They are leaving!

63
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:56,840
Tenzin wait!

64
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:00,400
Grandma, we're almost there.

65
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,000
Down there Oleg, you go first!

66
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,000
Tenzin, almost there.

67
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:03,640
Nima, what happened?

68
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:20,480
Grandma, Grandpa.

69
02:18:20,960 --> 02:18:22,600
I'm sorry.

70
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:26,880
- I could not save us.
- He has gone back in. He will fix it.

71
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,520
There's no way.

72
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:33,720
Don't lose your faith, brother.



Here it is in subtitle workshop:


1
00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,480
This dam project
will create many newjobs.

2
00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,960
The Party and country
will assist in your relocation.

3
00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,160
Grandma, give me your hand.

4
00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,040
- But where are they taking us?
- It'll be all right.

5
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,520
Brother!

6
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,360
Grandma, I will send you money.

7
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,640
Who can write?

8
00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,840
Who can read?

9
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,400
Who can weld?

10
00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,840
I put a lot of faith
into your organization.

11
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400
It's a perfect replica, Roland.

12
00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,120
There are too many fanatics out there
that could damage her.

13
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,680
Just think about the beautiful Buddha
statues they blew up in Afghanistan.

14
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,800
Our Heritage Organization
has already made selections...

15
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800
...from the British Museum
and L'Hermitage.

16
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160
I guess she'll be safe now,
tucked away...

17
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,520
...hidden in some bunker
in Switzerland.

18
00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,120
Perfectly safe, Roland.

19
00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,200
Only infrared analysis
would reveal the difference.

20
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,600
But it's still a fake.

21
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,280
I feared you would not come.

22
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Zultan, listen to me...

23
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
...we are fighters,
we never go down...

24
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
...no matter how hard they hit us.

25
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,280
Kill the bastard.

26
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,680
Yuri, where are you going?

27
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,280
Yuri?

28
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:24,360
Do not believe in something simply
because you have heard it, Nima.

29
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,240
But, great Lama,
Tenzin is my brother.

30
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,240
He works inside the big tunnel,
where the ships are built.

31
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,760
But what is there in your wisdom,
great Lama, if Tenzin is right?

32
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,840
What if our world
is indeed coming to an end?

33
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,200
it is full, great Rinpoche.

34
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Like this cup...

35
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,720
...you are full of opinions
and speculations.

36
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,400
To see the light of wisdom...

37
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,600
...you first must empty your cup.

38
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,760
Be careful with the clutch.

39
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,600
it tends to slip.

40
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,920
- Grandma.
- Grandpa, Nima is here!

41
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,280
Grandma,
I got a message from Tenzin.

42
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,440
He wants us to meet him
in Cho Ming at the west gate.

43
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,120
He says he can get us on the ships
he's working on.

44
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,360
What are you talking about?
Tenzin works on the dam.

45
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Grandma...

46
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,240
...the dam is a ship!
The government lied to us.

47
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,680
There will be a big flood!

48
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,800
We must pack up right away.

49
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,720
Nima, he gave you the truck?

50
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,640
We took a trip
on the Laem Song ferry once.

51
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,840
Grandpa threw up the whole way.

52
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,640
Let's eat first.

53
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:31,760
Who are they?

54
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,640
We found them along side
of the road.

55
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,360
Send them back!

56
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,400
I am a follower...

57
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,040
...of our great Lama Rinpoche.

58
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,240
You know I cannot do that.

59
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:29,640
We are all children of the earth.

60
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,320
My plan will not work for so many,
Grandma.

61
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:37,400
We will take them all.

62
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:36,760
They are leaving!

63
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:56,840
Tenzin wait!

64
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:00,400
Grandma, we're almost there.

65
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,000
Down there Oleg, you go first!

66
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,000
Tenzin, almost there.

67
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:03,640
Nima, what happened?

68
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:20,480
Grandma, Grandpa.

69
02:18:20,960 --> 02:18:22,600
I'm sorry.

70
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:26,880
- I could not save us.
- He has gone back in. He will fix it.

71
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,520
There's no way.

72
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:33,720
Don't lose your faith, brother.

[deank]

It looks completely normal. Make sure that you really use the .srt file in your 1st test. There was this guy the other day, reported the same problem.

It turned out that he was using the remuxed m2ts from his 1st test attempt (which contains .sup/PGS subtitles - which cannot be changed by tsMuxeR settings).

I did 2 tests with different settings and all is properly applied:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/test1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/test2.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/test_m2.jpg

Dean

[rapscallion]

I was definitely using the srt, not a remuxed m2ts w/ pgs's. I'll do a test now and this time save the meta file. Maybe that will reveal what's going on.

Edit : Although I don't think this was the issue, I thought I'd mention it. These are English for foreign subs and after outputting to AVCHD, I edited the movieobject.bdmv to force playback. That shouldn't change the font settings, I would think.

[rapscallion]

I did 2 tests with different settings and all is properly applied:

Dean

Wow! Thanks dean for taking the time to test that.

I re did the mux and here's the meta file :
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --cut-end=15min --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\bd test\tora.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
S_TEXT/UTF8,

"D:\201209iKi\2012_English_Forced.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=48,font-color=0x00ffffff,bottom-

offset=27,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=eng

As you see, the settings I entered are in fact there.

BTW, what player did you use in your photo examples ?

[deank]

I used TMT for the screenshots.

Your meta shows that you're actually DE-MUXING the m2ts and not re-muxing it into a new AVCHD/Blu-ray structure.

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --cut-end=15min --vbv-len=500

You need to select [x] AVCHD or [x] Blu-ray then the BDMV\STREAM\ folder will contain your newly remuxed 00000.m2ts with the correct subtitle settings applied. :)

Dean

[rapscallion]

Sorry dean, my bad...wrong meta posted, here's the correct one :

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --cut-end=15min --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\bd test\tora.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\201209iKi\2012_Forced.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=48,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=27,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=eng

[laserfan]

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --cut-end=15min --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\bd test\tora.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\201209iKi\2012_Forced.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=48,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=27,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=engI can't see anything wrong with it myself. Dunno, I'd try another font e.g. Trebuchet MS.

I don't recall .srt issues w/older versions of tsmuxer, but is there any chance you have a new GUI but an older tsmuxer.exe??? :confused:

[rapscallion]

I can't see anything wrong with it myself. Dunno, I'd try another font e.g. Trebuchet MS.

I don't recall .srt issues w/older versions of tsmuxer, but is there any chance you have a new GUI but an older tsmuxer.exe??? :confused:
Ok, I've tried a few more tests with short clips and the settings seem to be applied now .

Screenie is @ 48 font size, offset 27, borders 2.

I realize that much of this is subjective/personal, but what is considered the most effective font and offset settings for 16X9 video?

http://i44.tinypic.com/i6jla8.jpg

[laserfan]

I realize that much of this is subjective/personal, but what is considered the most effective font and offset settings for 16X9 video?It *is* subjective & personal, but here's what I use, and keep in mind I have a CIH screen setup so these offsets are meant to keep the subs in the image whatever size it might be. Note the 1st is for when I just keep the original, the others are for when I re-build & use .srt:

S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\video\subtitle1.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng

#For 1.77 composition
#S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\video\english.srt",font-name="Trebuchet MS",font-size=48,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,bottom-offset=24,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080, fps=23.976, lang=eng

#For 1.85 composition
#S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\video\english.srt",font-name="Trebuchet MS",font-size=48,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,bottom-offset=32,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080, fps=23.976, lang=eng

#For 2.40 composition
#S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\video\english.srt",font-name="Trebuchet MS",font-size=48,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,bottom-offset=146,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080, fps=23.976, lang=eng

[rapscallion]

It *is* subjective & personal, but here's what I use, and keep in mind I have a CIH screen setup so these offsets are meant to keep the subs in the image whatever size it might be. Note the 1st is for when I just keep the original, the others are for when I re-build & use .srt:



Thanks laserfan ! That's exactly what I was looking for. I've just been viewing the subs on a few original BD's and the subs always seem to be in the image, which I prefer. They also appear to be very close to the 48 font size.

[laserfan]

I've just been viewing the subs on a few original BD's and the subs always seem to be in the image, which I prefer. They also appear to be very close to the 48 font size.Actually I think 48pt is quite a bit smaller than you typically find--but I like it better cuz is less obtrusive, and we have a 10ft wide screen only 10ft away! So 48 is plenty big enough! :)

[rapscallion]

Actually I think 48pt is quite a bit smaller than you typically find--but I like it better cuz is less obtrusive, and we have a 10ft wide screen only 10ft away! So 48 is plenty big enough! :)
Well, the 2 bd's that I looked at were Indiana Jones Crystal Skull and Diehard 4 and after comparing the screenies, they were awfully close to 48pt. Both were 2.35:1 and the subs were much closer to the bottom edge (more like 120), however I prefer your 146.

Thanks again for your reponses...I definitely got it now. This was a problem for me because the only time I use subs is for the non-English parts (forced).

[laserfan]

I definitely got it now.Great, but I'm not sure why it didn't work the first time(s)? Well OK we never argue with success....

[rapscallion]

Great, but I'm not sure why it didn't work the first time(s)? Well OK we never argue with success....

Me neither, and it was 3 times, with different settings, over 3 months. +1 with the success though.

[kurt]

question about chapters and output to BD structure:

is there a way to name the chapters like in mkv?

CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Beginning
CHAPTER02=00:07:00.045
CHAPTER02NAME=Crash
.
.
I tried this in "custom chapter" of tsmuxer without success.

[deank]

No, but if there was a way how would you use it?

multiAVCHD supports named chapters for BD output, because it stores them in the META folder as xml (\BBDMV\META\ES\esmt_eng_01234.xml for example).

[rapscallion]

@ dean . Not aproblem, just a curiousity question.

When tsmuxer applies sub settings during the muxing of the pgs, for avchd/blu-ray output, where in the stucture is that info stored and is there a way to read it.

I've searched and found nothing. Also tried all the usual suspects, Multiavchd, easy sup, subtitle workshop, subrip, sup read. Well, you get the idea.

This because I'd like to see what the original BD sub font style, size and bottom offset are. Is this even possible ?

[deank]

The only way to accomplish that is:

1) Start tsmuxer_GUI
2) Extract the stream you need (using DEMUX and selecting only the subtitle tracks you want to review)
3) You'll get a .SUP file for each subtitle track
4) Start BDsup2sub and load the subtitle track

You'll need to have JAVA installed for BDsup2sub.

I have a simple .cmd file on my desktop and I drag various image-based subtitles (like SUP/PGS in that case) to review before further processing:

java -jar d:\multiavchd\tools\bdsup2sub.jar %1

Replace d:\multiavchd\tools\ with the path to your copy of BDsup2sub.

5) When you load the .SUP you'll need to set the original resolution and framerate - make sure you do that.

BDsup2sub will show the exact position and will give you an idea of how subtitles will look in your final mux.

Dean :)

[rapscallion]

Thank you so much dean !

[deank]

I forgot to add:

There is no such thing as "subtitle font/style/size" with image based subtitles. They are just images/pictures. In most cases you can get a visual idea of the style/font/size by looking at the pictures (shown in BDsup2sub) and the coordinates/offset and then decide what font/style to use for text-based subtitles to get closer match to the original ones.

Dean

[rapscallion]

But, of course, Tsmuxer is creating those images/pgs from the info that we input.

Up till now (again rarely) I've been using TMT, capturing screen shots, and then measuring the font size and experimenting with the offset to get it close to the original.

[deank]

Yes... And don't be fooled by the things you see in the 'meta'-window about fonts/sizes/offsets. tsMuxeR cannot change these when you process PGS subtitles (but it shows these parameters in the meta lines). I think it can only resize the subtitles (but sometimes fails and that's why I use bdsup2sub for the job).

[rapscallion]

Yes, I was fooled by that meta file once already !
Thanks for the lead to BDsup2sub. That's one program I missed. :)

Just tried it and I also like that it tells which subs are forced, which is what I use..

[Pelican9]

I've searched and found nothing. Also tried all the usual suspects, Multiavchd, easy sup, subtitle workshop, subrip, sup read.
I'm just curious, why SUPread didn't work for you? It was the first software which can show the original BD subtitles...
And also BDedit can demux any stream from m2ts including the PG stream...

[rapscallion]

@pelican, both great little programs !

However, Supread didn't work for me because :

1. I don't have the patience to ocr them.
2. It doesn't show the relative position of the subs in the frame (not that I can see)
3. Doesn't show which subs are forced.

Yes, bdedt can demux, but again doesn't show me detail about the subs themselves, that I was looking for.

[Pelican9]

OK, thanks.

[kurt]

No, but if there was a way how would you use it?

multiAVCHD supports named chapters for BD output, because it stores them in the META folder as xml (\BBDMV\META\ES\esmt_eng_01234.xml for example).
ok, most probably BD players (like Popcorn Hour C200) won't recognize these external meta files, isn't it? so named chapters are not in BD specs?

[deank]

On the contrary... BD named chapters are supported as I already said in the META folder. And normal BD players support them via BD-J and depending on the your player specs. I wouldn't say PCH is a regular bd player. I'm not aware of another way to store chapter names, actor names, cast, storyline and a lot of other things, supported in these xml files.

[kurt]

On the contrary... BD named chapters are supported as I already said in the META folder. And normal BD players support them via BD-J and depending on the your player specs. I wouldn't say PCH is a regular bd player. I'm not aware of another way to store chapter names, actor names, cast, storyline and a lot of other things, supported in these xml files.
thx, gonna try multiAVCHD and see if named chapters are supported on C200 via BD-J :)

[Pelican9]

Any chance to mux IGS?
BDedit can load and save the IGS (similar format as SUP, elementary stream stuffed with PTS/DTS values) of the menu so only one step is missing to editing or creating BD menus now...

[setarip_old]

Just a point of information:

The last time "roman76r" posted here was May 2009...

[Pelican9]

Ooops. Bad news. :thanks:

[coolalibaba]

I guess this project is dead?

[Pelican9]

Maybe. Maybe not. :)
Sometimes the developer has no time...

[laserfan]

Maybe. Maybe not. :)
Sometimes the developer has no time...
Or it does what Smartlabs wants-or-needs, for now at least. It seems to be one of those things where nothing happens for a long while, and then the OP works madly on it for a few weeks, then goes away again.

[Matrix905]

Hello everyone,

Not sure if this topic is still relevant or not... but I'm trying to use tsmuxer on linux to mux .mkv to .m2ts. After generating the meta file and running tsmuxer I keep getting a "Can't detect stream type" error and I'm not sure how to fix this. I'm trying to do this all in console as I just ssh into my linux machine.

Hopefully someone might be able to shed some insight on how to get this working. It would be real sweet if I could do this!

Cheers,

- M -

[rapscallion]

For subtitles, where does tsmuxer get the default fonts from and can I add a font(s) ?

Edit: turned out that just installing a new font in the windows font dir makes it available in tsmuxer.
I had asked because Avatar uses the papyrus font for the na'vi speaking parts.

[deank]

Just a bump... This superior tool deserves it... And people often forget that all of the free Blu-ray/AVCHD tools around depend on it!

[slipknot!]

sorry, where I can download it?
The provided link above is DEAD.

[crl2007]

http://smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

[MaistroX]

Hi, is there a way to demux the hole movie sound from a movie even if there´s seems to be spreed on different m2ts fileson the dvd? Tried with TsMuxed, but it didnt collect hole movie sound only the present one out of the m2ts!? :(
Is there a tool to exktact DTS-HD, DTS and/or AC3 from a movie even if its on several m2ts´s ?

Please help !

P.S works like a charm when movie sound is in only one (1) m2ts.

[deank]

You'll have to find the correct movie PLAYLIST (mpls) and import it in tsMuxeR. Do not use single M2TS files.

Use BDinfo or some other tool to determine which MPLS file holds all information about the movie and import it.

Then you can demux/remux only the video/audio/subtitles or extract the SD core of HD-audio tracks.

Dean

[jdobbs]

Hi, is there a way to demux the hole movie sound from a movie even if there´s seems to be spreed on different m2ts fileson the dvd? Tried with TsMuxed, but it didnt collect hole movie sound only the present one out of the m2ts!? :(
Is there a tool to exktact DTS-HD, DTS and/or AC3 from a movie even if its on several m2ts´s ?

Please help !

P.S works like a charm when movie sound is in only one (1) m2ts. Just open the proper MPLS instead of the M2TS file(s) and TSMUXER will do all the work for you.

[mrr19121970]

anybody know if there is a way to set audio and video PID's with tsmuxer to specific values?


thanks!

Did anyone find a way to this?

[deank]

There is no way, unless you parse and rewrite the m2ts files.

Of course - an easier way would be to insert "blank" streams (audio/subtitles) in place of the removed ones. Much easier to go that way. multiAVCHD does that in re-author mode.

[mrr19121970]

Yes, this seems easier than going through the m2ts and changing every PID.

[mrr19121970]

Also, this version includes new experimental feature: parameter "secondary" for video streams. This options allows to mux PIP video stream. tsMuxeR centers PIP streams on the screen by vertical position. Possible this function allows to resolve problem with cropped video in future. This options available in tsMuxer only and does not provided in tsMuxerGUI.

Does anyone have a sample .meta file that caters for secondary audio & video.

Thanks. Mike.

[jdobbs]

There is no way, unless you parse and rewrite the m2ts files.

Of course - an easier way would be to insert "blank" streams (audio/subtitles) in place of the removed ones. Much easier to go that way. multiAVCHD does that in re-author mode. How do you format the blank streams? Do you use silent AC3 or something similar? Zero filled streams?

I was planning on simply pulling the complete stream and inserting into the M2TS with adjustments to packet timing. But your way sounds better.

[crl2007]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1358535#post1358535

To keep it short, you replace those streams with shorter versions ( 200ms video/audio streams ). I uploaded there an archive ready to be used. multiAVCHD can do this if you want to blank some intros or even audio streams.

This is only done for keeping menu functions.

[mrr19121970]

How do you format the blank streams? Do you use silent AC3 or something similar? Zero filled streams?


jsoto (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/audiotools.htm)has a nice util to create silent audio files. I use a self created empty PGS, and a AC3 from jsotos util and a blank 200ms h264 video in Clown_BD.

[deank]

Does anyone have a sample .meta file that caters for secondary audio & video.

tsMuxeR can create secondary VIDEO only, but not audio:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500 --blu-ray

V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "main_video.mkv", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_DTS, "main_video.mkv", track=2, lang=eng

V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "secondary_video.m2ts", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, lang=eng, secondary
A_AC3, "secondary_video.m2ts", track=4352, lang=bul

Even if you change the last line to:

A_AC3, "secondary_video.m2ts", track=4352, lang=bul, secondary

the audio will be muxed with primary PID (0x1101). To use secondary audio you'll need to rewrite the m2ts files, mpls and clpi.

Dean

[deank]

How do you format the blank streams? Do you use silent AC3 or something similar? Zero filled streams?

I was planning on simply pulling the complete stream and inserting into the M2TS with adjustments to packet timing. But your way sounds better.

I store as an array (1216 bytes) a small AC3 file I created myself (76ms 5.1ch 128kbps) and I use it when I need it to mux 'blanked' stream. Here it is (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/blank_audio.ac3).

One can create such small file for DTS audio, too.

Dean

[mr.duck]

Hi, I would like to batch remux my TS files. I don't know how to generate the correct meta file because the file name will always be different. As is the video and audio track numbers and the audio delay.

Typically the TS file will be just 1 MPEG2 video stream and 1 MP2 audio track. I just want to run it through tsMuxeR to clean up the file (plus it saves 100s of MB from somewhere). Is it possible? How can it be done?

[mrr19121970]

Why not use the tsMuxeR GUI and save the meta files and then execute in batch when you're done?

Otherwise here's the manual (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559) for creating them yourself.

[mr.duck]

Why not use the tsMuxeR GUI and save the meta files and then execute in batch when you're done?


Because it will only work once and any new files will have a different name, audio delay, video and audio track numbers.

I would just like to remux any TS file I pass to it. Just keep the main audio and video streams, and spit it out all cleaned up.

[mr.duck]

I'm giving up on tsMuxeR. It's just not workable. There are better options anyway like eac3to, projectX, etc. Remuxing to MKV can save 100s MB without any transcoding. Performance is much better too.

[Iron_Mike]

Hi All,

have a quick question about the use of tsmuxer.

I am ripping 1:1 copies of Blu-Rays to HDD and play them via my WDTV Live. Problem is that the WDTV Live has limitations when it comes to converting True-HD to Stereo output.

I read that you can simply demux the AC3 core out of the True-HD audio track and then add it to the main m2ts files.

I tried to do that with tsmuxer but it always gives me this error message:

"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps."

Here's what I did:

(1.) used tsmuxer to extract the AC3 core from the True-HD track / tsmuxer > demux > check down-convert True-HD to AC3
(2.) the result is a file with .ac3 extension which apparently I cannot join with the main m2ts file, as they have to be same extension... so I did...

(3.) tsmuxer > M2TS muxing > check down-convert True-HD to AC3 --> output was a m2ts file
(4.) then mux the audio file with the main m2ts file that contains the movies and subtitles / tsmuxer > M2TS muxing > add main m2ts file > join audio m2ts file

--> then this error occurs at 97.8 %: "Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps."

Any idea what I am doing wrong ?

Is it a problem that the True-HD track is in the main m2ts files and I want to join the AC3 track (that came from the True-HD track) ?


Thanx for your help !!!

- M

[setarip_old]

@Iron_Mike

Hi!

Perform ONLY 3) (Not 1), 2) or 4)) and you'll be a happy camper ;>}
(3.) tsmuxer > M2TS muxing > check down-convert True-HD to AC3 --> output was a m2ts file If you need a full BluRay "package" ("Stream", "Playlist", etc.) simply select "BluRay" instead of "M2TS" in "tsMuxeR"...

[Iron_Mike]

@setarip_old:

thanx for your answer !


My main idea was to keep True-HD and add a normal AC3 stream.

The AC3 stream would be coming out of of the True-HD stream...

How would I do that ?

Thanx !!!

- M

[setarip_old]

@Iron_Mike


My main idea was to keep True-HD and add a normal AC3 stream.No big thing, but nowhere in your initial post did you say that.

Be that as it may, try the following:

1) Load the same original file into tsMuxeR

2) Uncheck all files EXCEPT the True-HD file

3) Select "Demux" - and you'll now have an "extra" copy of the True-HD file (Do NOT exit tsMuxeR)

4) In tsMuxeR, "ADD" (NOT "JOIN") the "extra" copy of the True-HD file to the already existing file in the tsMuxeR upper window (You may have to change the name of the "extra" True-HD file)

5) Place checkmarks next to ALL streams in the lower window

6) Highlight ONLY ONE of the True-HD streams in the lower window and check down-convert True-HD to AC3

7) Select either "BluRay" or "M2TS" and go forit ;>}

[Iron_Mike]

@ setarip_old:

Thank you very much for this detailed tutorial - worked perfectly !!!

Thanx again.

- M

[setarip_old]

@ setarip_old:
Thank you very much for this detailed tutorial - worked perfectly !!!
As always, my pleasure ;>}

[UltraTV]

We use TSmuxer almost exclusively for our blu-ray and iphone encodings, but recently we've run into some compatibility issues with the way TSmuxer handles splitting files. Files are split non-uniformly (I'm guessing splitting occurs at keyframes), and the split duration is a minimum 2.5x the keyframe length.

This means a split value of 5 seconds requires keyframes that are less than 2 seconds. And if variable playlists are used with http live streaming, when adaptive bitrate causes the stream to switch to another bitrate, all sorts of weird things start happening.

Apple released a mediafilesegmenter tool for TS streams, but the tool is extremely limited. It doesn't mux TS, only works on OS X, and if you hold it the wrong way it stops working.

It would be ideal to keep using TSmuxer for our work, but we need the ability to create uniform segment lengths regardless of keyframe length. Basically, we need the splitting tool to behave like a proper media segmenter.

It's a lot to ask for something we don't pay for, but that's what we're here for, right?

THANKS!

[dvdboy]

Hi,

I'm trying to automate a process to make simple "play and stop" blu-ray discs using TSmuxer, but it seems that the builds that TSMuxer creates by default are "looping". Is there any way via the meta file to make the disc stop after the title has been played. I took a quick look in the bdmv files using BDEdit and it seems the last command is a JumpTitle1 which effectively 'loops' the disc content.

Many Thanks

DVD-BOY

[deank]

You can replace the JUMP command with BREAK and save the copy of index.bdmv. Then you can use it each time you create a structure and overwrite the one which tsMuxeR creates. :)

Dean

[dvdboy]

You can replace the JUMP command with BREAK and save the copy of index.bdmv. Then you can use it each time you create a structure and overwrite the one which tsMuxeR creates. :)

Dean

Excellent Idea!! Silly N00b question, but where is the BREAK command? Did you mean within BDEdit?

-- Sorry, did you mean a NOP?

Many Thanks

DVD-BOY

[deank]

Yes. Mark the JUMP command and press SHIFT-N. JUMP will turn to NOP. Then use the drop-lists to select GO TO - BREAK.

[dvdboy]

Excellent, Thanks Dean.

[laserfan]

I'm trying to automate a process to make simple "play and stop" blu-ray discs using TSmuxer, but it seems that the builds that TSMuxer creates by default are "looping". Is there any way via the meta file to make the disc stop after the title has been played.Here is what I made based on feedback from deank and MadMonkey57 (I even give them credit in the Content Provider part shown w/BDEdit):

DontLoopJustStop.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/?bq58l8e39yjyp4e)

I just copy these two files (index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv) and Paste them-over the originals and the backups. Works great, and alot easier than what I was doing before (editing every mux by hand).

[Capsbackup]

Here is what I made based on feedback from deank and MadMonkey57 (I even give them credit in the Content Provider part shown w/BDEdit):

DontLoopJustStop.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/?bq58l8e39yjyp4e)

I just copy these two files (index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv) and Paste them-over the originals and the backups. Works great, and alot easier than what I was doing before (editing every mux by hand).

Very nice laserfan, I will give it a try.
I must admit though , I have always liked the looping! :o

[mrr19121970]

Hi,

I'm trying to automate a process to make simple "play and stop" blu-ray discs using TSmuxer, but it seems that the builds that TSMuxer creates by default are "looping". Is there any way via the meta file to make the disc stop after the title has been played. I took a quick look in the bdmv files using BDEdit and it seems the last command is a JumpTitle1 which effectively 'loops' the disc content.

Many Thanks

DVD-BOY

Did you see this tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146412) from Rotty, does just that?

[insaneoctane]

Can someone guess why when I take a full length video HD VC-1 (m2ts) file that plays perfectly well in the OS (through directshow/MPC) and run it through TsMuxeR (via Dean's Multi-AVCHD tool for PS3 compliance), the resultant 4gb files would NO longer be playable by the OS (through VFW/directshow)? The resultant 4gb files are not corrupt because VLC can play them...but they won't play through the OS anymore.

GSPOT says:
RENDERING FAILED: FOLLOWING IS THE ERROR REPORTED BY DIRECTSHOW
0X80040265: [UNKNOWN]

MPC says:
Cannot render the file

This happens to a handful of files I've got, not all of them. I've googled this problem for months now, honestly, and I just can't figure out what's going on.

[setarip_old]

@insaneoctane

Hi! Can someone guess why when I take a full length video HD VC-1 (m2ts) file that plays perfectly well in the OS (through directshow/MPC) and run it through TsMuxeR (via Dean's Multi-AVCHD tool for PS3 compliance), the resultant 4gb files would NO longer be playable by the OS (through VFW/directshow)? ... This happens to a handful of files I've got, not all of them.

What are the titles of your problematic original BluRay discs?

What software and procedures did you use to initially rip and compress it?

[insaneoctane]

@insaneoctane

Hi!

What are the titles of your problematic original BluRay discs?

What software and procedures did you use to initially rip and compress it?


My original titles are Harry Potter 1 thru 5

No compression used, ripped with anydvd hd and streams removed with tsmuxer only. Those files were broken into 4gb chunks for playback on ps3. They no longer play in OS, so I used tsmuxer AGAIN to recombine them into a single m2ts file and the OS will play the file (yeah!), but when mAVCDH runs them back through tsmuxer for output, the resultant 4gb m2ts files won't play in the OS, but VLC never has trouble...It seems to only be on these HP VC-1 files and I'm lost.

[coolalibaba]

does tsmuxer support DTS-HD MA?

[SeeMoreDigital]

does tsmuxer support DTS-HD MA?Yes...

[tebasuna51]

WARNING:
- tsMuxeR don't recognize audio tracks (AC3/DTS) from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.1.x defaults.
- tsMuxeR crash with video track H264 from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.2.0 defaults.

[rapscallion]

does tsmuxer support DTS-HD MA?

Yes...
...and also DTS-Hi Res.

[coolalibaba]

WARNING:
- tsMuxeR don't recognize audio tracks (AC3/DTS) from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.1.x defaults.
- tsMuxeR crash with video track H264 from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.2.0 defaults.
that's why....someone needs to upgrade tsmuxer pls!

[insaneoctane]

bump.
Can someone guess why when I take a full length video HD VC-1 (m2ts) file that plays perfectly well in the OS (through directshow/MPC) and run it through TsMuxeR (via Dean's Multi-AVCHD tool for PS3 compliance), the resultant 4gb files would NO longer be playable by the OS (through VFW/directshow)? The resultant 4gb files are not corrupt because VLC can play them...but they won't play through the OS anymore.

GSPOT says:
RENDERING FAILED: FOLLOWING IS THE ERROR REPORTED BY DIRECTSHOW
0X80040265: [UNKNOWN]

MPC says:
Cannot render the file

This happens to a handful of files I've got, not all of them. I've googled this problem for months now, honestly, and I just can't figure out what's going on.

[setarip_old]

@insaneoctane but when mAVCDH runs them back through tsmuxer for output, the resultant 4gb m2ts files won't play in the OS, but VLC never has troubleWhat format are you selecting from within multiAVCHD?

[lchiu7]

Why don't you post the mediainfo information also? And what OS are you using?

[Octo-puss]

Is this tool dead?...

[setarip_old]

Is this tool dead?... It hasn't been updated in quite a while, however, it continues to be fully functional and extremely useful...

[crl2007]

WARNING:
- tsMuxeR don't recognize audio tracks (AC3/DTS) from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.1.x defaults.
- tsMuxeR crash with video track H264 from mkv's generated with MkvMerge v4.2.0 defaults.


No problem here as long as I set the compression from "Extra Options" tab to none for all the streams ( audio, video, subtitle ) I put into my mkv.

[mastrboy]

Is there a way for tsmuxer to split on chapter's like DVD Decryptor ?

[fschiefer]

I hope anyone here can help me, I found no answer by using the search function.

When I try to mux a .ts file out of a H264 HD movie file (created with megui x264 / Blu-ray presets), tsmuxer always comes up with the message "b-pyramid level 1 detected, shift DTS to 2 frames" --> What does that message mean?

[deank]

1) It means that you have nothing to worry about.

and

2) It means that bitrate + bframe count require more DTS (display time-stamps / m2ts packets) to describe the whole frame.

Dean

[chompy]

Hi,

I’ve done a quick search and I haven’t found this before, so this is my story (sorry it isn’t short):

I have a seamless branching movie (Up Spanish edition) with English DTS-HD and Spanish DTS audio tracks and in order to make a backup that fits in BD25 without reencoding I just wanted to keep English DTS core.

I’ve used MultiAVCHD to blank unwanted features and to select only English DTS core and Spanish DTS audio tracks while keeping the seamless branching structure: the video plays fine, Spanish stream sounds great, BUT, English stream has sometimes very small (but discernible) gaps that coincide with the change of m2ts files in playlist. It isn’t always noticed, but one of this changes it’s done while someone is speaking and you can clearly hear it.

I’ve done lots of tests these last days that can be summarized in:
- Using BD-Rebuilder keeping and removing PiP, reencoding or just remuxing also ended with these weird gaps in English track (while Spanish track always sounded fine).
- If I manually do the remux process in tsMuxeR the problem is still there.
- If I keep the English track as DTS-HD, everything is fine: both audio streams play perfectly fine.
- If I feed DTS-HD StreamPlayer (in orther to decode it to PCM) with English DTS track, StreamPlayer crashes when it arrives to 100% of decoding progress (I got the wavs in my destination folder, but they were empty). But Spanish DTS track ends perfect without any error.
- If I convert de English DTS track to wavs with eac3to, it says “The last DTS frame is incomplete and thus gets skipped”. Doing the same with English DTS-HD or Spanish DTS ends correctly without any alert.

At this point it was clear to me that there was something wrong with tsMuxer when you select the option to downconvert DTS-HD to DTS, and I did some tests with eac3to doing the demux process:
- English downconverted to DTS and Spanish DTS can be decoded to PCM using DTS-HD StreamPlayer without any error.
- English DTS-HD, English downconverted to DTS and Spanish DTS can be converted to wavs with eac3to without alerts.

Then I loaded all the wavs I had from all my tsMuxer and eac3to demuxes obtained via DTS-HD StreamPlayer and eac3to in Adobe Audition and all had the same exact length except the wavs that came from tsMuxeR’s English downconverted DTS track which was 10 ms shorter (the last DTS frame skipped by eac3to).

I don’t know if this problem only happens with this movie or if it’s a bug in tsMuxeR, because I haven’t had time to do more tests, but I’ll do them soon.

Greetings

EDIT: I've done more tests, and now I know for sure that this is a tsMuxeR bug: all DTS-HD tracks downconverted to DTS core will have last frame incomplete, making DTS-HD StreamPlayer crash while decoding them to PCM and making eac3to cut their last milliseconds (the tests done have been Gladiator 10th aniversary edition, King Kong, Toy Story and Toy Story 2), and what's worse, there will be gaps in audio in seamless branching blu-rays at m2ts change points

[mrr19121970]

@Chompy

Will you please try out Clown_BD BD Builder to see if the same bug is there too.

I've copied loads of seamless branching titles, but have never heard a gap in the audio, I don't have the Spanish UP to try myself.

Thanks.

[chompy]

@ mrr19121970

I've neither noticed before, but in UP (I don’t know if all version are equally split) there’s a m2ts change after UP logo appears and then the narrator is speaking and I can hear the small gap (remember it’s just 10 milliseconds) in his voice (you must pay attention, but it’s clearly there) and this problem only happens while only keeping DTS core, and if I’m not wrong, Clown_BD BD Copier only supports core downconversion from v0.36.

As soon as I arrive this noon, I’ll made a test with Clown_BD BD Copier and report back my findings, but remember that even if you don’t notice it, the error with tsMuxeR extracting core is there (I don’t know if the bug also happens with TrueHD as I don’t have any disk with it to test), and you can easily test it downconverting any DTS-HD to DTS any trying to convert to wavs with eac3to, DTS-HD StreamPlayer or any tool that can do this operation.

Greetings

[mrr19121970]

Can this be cured by changing the .meta file to include

, timeshift=10ms

after the down-to-dts statement?