smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[pjohnson73]

Ok, so as long as the mkv has a proper resolution it shouldn't take too long with tsmuxer? I basically want to take the files which are 1080p and DTS and play on the PS3.

[ankurs]

anyone know how i can extract chapters from a .m2ts file ?

tsmuxer when clicking on the custom chapters tab just gives chapters after 5 minutes each (like im supposed to input the chapters :S ) , i need something like pgcdemux which simply gives the chapter times from the dvd9 automatically...

tsmuxer did the job for the subs fine though ..

i intend to mux the chapters along with the subs to my mkv using megui eventually along with my x264 encode ...

any help folks ?

[kurt]

ankurs: try eac3to. it can easily extract chapters (as well as audio, video, subs, just everything :D)

[ankurs]

it only seems to be able to open .ac3 files AFAIK , anything i am missing kurt , detailed help please ? as in how am i supposed to open a .m2ts in it when only ac3 opens in it ? and what tabs to click on ?

i do have EAC3TOGUI lying around my HDD ..

n00b here :(

[odin24]

it only seems to be able to open .ac3 files AFAIK , anything i am missing kurt , detailed help please ? as in how am i supposed to open a .m2ts in it when only ac3 opens in it ? and what tabs to click on ?

i do have EAC3TOGUI lying around my HDD ..

n00b here :(


Is your source a BD rip? If so, there are two ways to do this.

1. With eac3to (not with eac3toGUI).
2. Easier method, with tsMuxeR. You need to open the correct MPLS file from the Playlist folder. Go to the Blu-Ray tab, highlight custom chapters and copy/paste to a new text file.

[kurt]

it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

[ankurs]

Is your source a BD rip? If so, there are two ways to do this.

1. With eac3to (not with eac3toGUI).
2. Easier method, with tsMuxeR. You need to open the correct MPLS file from the Playlist folder. Go to the Blu-Ray tab, highlight custom chapters and copy/paste to a new text file.

yay ! i loaded the mpls file in tsmuxer and it did the job , thanks for giving me the idea that it can be done using the mpls file kurt and odin , i was loading the .m2ts directly before , many thanks !

it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

ty once again kurt :)

[dh2005]

Try to use SmartRipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartripper) instead to get VOB-file. It surely leaves video stream untouched.
Or try to use tsMuxer (using its append feature) to get TS-file, which you can play on PC and PS3.

Thank you very much for the recommendation. Although SmartRipper hasn't solved the problem I was asking about, it has solved another problem - by allowing me to create individual .VOBs for chapters within a title, it's got around a problem I had with breaking up a 12GB mini series into six 2GB parts without having to remux (which messed with the audio sync). So, thanks a lot.

Can I ask about the TS files that TSMuxeR creates? I've not been able to run these on my PS3, so when I've been forced to remux I've used M2TS files instead...

... now, I don't want to appear ungrateful, because M2TS files have come to my rescue many times, but, they do show very occasional video break-up (smearing and artefacting, like you'd see when watching a damaged DVD), and if there's anything I can do to prevent this I'd LOVE to hear about it.

Maybe it's an inevitability of the remuxing process, in which event, I'll just stomach it. But if there's anything that can be done to prevent these video problems, someone please let me know...

Thanks.


DH.

[kartman_canada]

it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

OK... I'm interested in the next step... once the file "chapters.txt" has been extracted along with audio and video. I plan to use TsMuxer to create an M2TS file for PS3 playback.

Is there a way to fold the info in "chapters.txt" in the mux process to maintain the original chapter breaks?

[kurt]

sorry, can't help you out here. I don't know if chapter support could be possible with tsmuxer so that PS3 or Popcorn Hour could take advantage of.

Chapters in mkv are no problem (but nor playable on PS3, on PCH ok, but bitrate is too high for untouched video :D). I normally demux the chapters in the hope that sometime I can mux it together into maybe TS? :)

[dh2005]

I don't know where I got the idea that the PS3 can't read .TS files, because I've just found that it can. Clearly, I'm a plonker.

I have a general question about de/remuxing with TS MuxeR... is it better to demux a .VOB into its audio and video streams before remuxing them (i.e. do the two steps separately), or is it no different to simply checking the "TS" option then clicking the "start muxing" button?

Also, does anyone think that the video problems I've been encountering after muxing is to do with me using .M2TS, rather than .TS? Is there something about the process of converting a .VOB to an .M2TS that might mess up the video stream a little bit...?

Thanks as ever. I wouldn't have made this progress without you all.


DH.

[Selur]

Is there a new linux version of tsmuxer planned for the near future?
Hoping especially for "Ability to convert SRT to PGS added."

Cu Selur

[microchip8]

Is there a new linux version of tsmuxer planned for the near future?
Hoping especially for "Ability to convert SRT to PGS added."

Cu Selur

I emailed SmartLabs a month ago asking them to keep the Linux version on par with the Windows one. I did not get any reply back :/

[7saigon5]

I have an error when muxing video files with subtittle in Tsmuxer.Please advise anyone!

[rica]

I have an error when muxing video files with subtittle in Tsmuxer.Please advise anyone!

Do you try to remux HD-DVD subtitles?

[nwg]

I have a couple of audio questions. I am about to venture into making movie only blu rays from a blu ray rip. I have been doing this to DVD for a little while but will be using BD-R's. If I mux a TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track. Will a BD player still recognise the DTS and AC3 core for older amps?

Will a BD player also recognise multiple mutliple mux audio tracks?

[rica]

If you use analog cables over to your old fashioned receiver, why not?
The answer of the second part of your question is "yes" btw.
But you must know how to remux THD; you may have a look at this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125

[nwg]

If you use analog cables over to your old fashioned receiver, why not?
The answer of the second part of your question is "yes" btw.
But you must know how to remux THD; you may have a look at this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125

Thanks.

I am not using analogue cables which is why I need the core part of the HD tracks. In the future if I get HD audio capabiliy, it would be nice to have the HD audio already.

I know how to demux audio tracks. I am not actually planning on demuxing. It is my intention as long as the total is under 25GB to use Tsmuxer to just select the video, audio and subs I want and create a movie only blu ray and the burn it to a bd-r.

[odin24]

Thanks.

I am not using analogue cables which is why I need the core part of the HD tracks. In the future if I get HD audio capabiliy, it would be nice to have the HD audio already.

I know how to demux audio tracks. I am not actually planning on demuxing. It is my intention as long as the total is under 25GB to use Tsmuxer to just select the video, audio and subs I want and create a movie only blu ray and the burn it to a bd-r.


If you keep the HD audio you'll still get DTS core @ 1536kb/s and AC3 @ 640kb/s through optical.

To answer your second question, yes. You can have as many audio/subtitle tracks as you wish, as long as they are BD compatible. Since you're processing rips you shouldn't have any issues.

[nwg]

If you keep the HD audio you'll still get DTS core @ 1536kb/s and AC3 @ 640kb/s through optical.

To answer your second question, yes. You can have as many audio/subtitle tracks as you wish, as long as they are BD compatible. Since you're processing rips you shouldn't have any issues.

Thanks.

[PanteraGSTK]

I hate to ask, but has the Dolby TrueHD problem with tsmuxer been fixed yet? I want to keep my TrueHD tracks so I can mux them back into my .ts files without any problems. This will come in handy when I get an HDMI capable reviver and a sound card with bitstream support (whenever that will be.) DTS-MA works great so far. I just need DolbyTrueHD support and I will have an all in one solution.

Thanks for a great product.

[jtheripper]

Nope not fixed yet. Best option is to use eac3to to convert the dolby truhd to lpcm.

[nwg]

what is the truehd problem?

[odin24]

tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD fine, the problem is it doesn't play on any device.

You can either convert to LPCM (as jtheripper suggested) then reprocess through pcm2tsmu for tsMuxeR compatibility, or if you wish to retain the TrueHD track you need to mux to m2ts with the TrueHD track, the use the new m2ts file and remux using tsremux.

[GreenOnyx]

tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD fine, the problem is it doesn't play on any device.

You can either convert to LPCM (as jtheripper suggested) then reprocess through pcm2tsmu for tsMuxeR compatibility, or if you wish to retain the TrueHD track you need to mux to m2ts with the TrueHD track, the use the new m2ts file and remux using tsremux.

And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

[peterjcat]

And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

I agree with GreenOnyx. tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD but it doesn't do it fine, it does it really crappily. Even running the results through TsRemux doesn't fix what tsMuxeR has done for all devices (eg it doesn't work for NMT devices as far as I can tell).

[odin24]

And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

Just a couple of small workarounds for a hopefully temporary issue. The is going to be a new version coming out in the new year, make any suggestions you might have at the smlabs website.

[jtheripper]

remuxing with tsremux doesnt always work. Sometimes it does but usually not

[odin24]

remuxing with tsremux doesnt always work. Sometimes it does but usually not


My experiences are only with Sony products (PS3 and some standalones), so I guess my post was slightly misinformed.

[PanteraGSTK]

what software would I use to mux the TrueHD track into a m2ts or ts file? Other than tsremux or tsmuxer.

[jtheripper]

None that I know of. MeGui uses tsmuxer. If anyone knows of one program that will do this and not mess up the TrueHD please post

Actually sonic scenarist will if you got $5000 :)
http://www.sonic.com/products/Professional/Scenarist/quicklook.aspx

[redspear]

DTS will work in AVCHD or Blu-ray format on the PS3 no problem, you must ensure your video is a proper BD compliant resolution though. Either 1920x1080 (not 1920x800, etc), 1440x1080, or 1280x720 (not 1280x528, etc). Or you will get a distracting green bar across your TV screen... DTS and subs may not work properly either.

Hi,

Why DTS & subs doesn't work properly? Is there any workaround with this issue?
I would love to see my files with DTS & Subtitles without having to convert them to AC3.

Another thing, when the result is AVCHD, the files become bigger. With some files i can cut the end credits but with others i can't. Besides re-encoding, the other way is using bigger storage media (DVD DL; Blue Ray)?

Is there any way to joing multiple files + SCR in a single media?

PS: I'm only using PS3 to play my files

[odin24]

Hi,

Why DTS & subs doesn't work properly? Is there any workaround with this issue?
I would love to see my files with DTS & Subtitles without having to convert them to AC3.

Another thing, when the result is AVCHD, the files become bigger. With some files i can cut the end credits but with others i can't. Besides re-encoding, the other way is using bigger storage media (DVD DL; Blue Ray)?

Is there any way to joing multiple files + SCR in a single media?

PS: I'm only using PS3 to play my files

They will work, as long as your video res is proper, and in Blu-ray format. The only way to get a proper res, if it is not, is to re-encode it.

Yes, you can use whatever size disk you please, I have a BD-RE D/L for straight up rips, I also have DVD5-RWs, if that's all I need.

You can join multiple files as long as the codecs are the same, i.e. both streams from each file are h264 and DTS, if one has AC3 then no, you need to convert the DTS to AC3 first.

[nwg]

Does this fixclipi still need to be used on BDMV's intended to be burned to BD-R/RE?

[odin24]

Does this fixclipi still need to be used on BDMV's intended to be burned to BD-R/RE?


I still apply it.

[nwg]

I still apply it.

Ok, thanks.

[Bosko]

Question about 720p .mkv files of broadcast tv shows...

If one wants to play these on a PS3, I know one has to convert them to .avi -- but I'm wondering, since they're 720p files, what does that mean exactly? Played on a PS3 on a hidef widescreen display, will they actually "fill the screen" on their own (and not just play letterboxed in the 4:3 center of the screen)?

And does one need to play them on a bluray player (which the PS3 is, of course)? Or will they play on a regular dvd player that can upscale to the hidef display?

Thanks for the info!

[odin24]

Question about 720p .mkv files of broadcast tv shows...

If one wants to play these on a PS3, I know one has to convert them to .avi -- but I'm wondering, since they're 720p files, what does that mean exactly? Played on a PS3 on a hidef widescreen display, will they actually "fill the screen" on their own (and not just play letterboxed in the 4:3 center of the screen)?

And does one need to play them on a bluray player (which the PS3 is, of course)? Or will they play on a regular dvd player that can upscale to the hidef display?

Thanks for the info!

You do not need to convert to avi, use tsMuxeR and convert to m2ts and play directly for the PS3's HDD or USB stick. Also, with m2ts there is no file size restriction.

The 720p mkv's (converted to m2ts) will play in full screen using your PS3, you can either mux to Blu-ray or m2ts... which ever you prefer.

In order to play on an upconverting DVD player you will need to convert to DVD first, in the process downgrading to 480p... then the player will upconvert to 1080 or 720, which make no sense if you have a PS3, you definetly will lose quality.

[n0mag!c]

But if there's anything that can be done to prevent these video problems, someone please let me know...
You've been asked several times to upload a few mb sample. Or do you really think that difficult question is less important than easy one? ;)

P.S. You can cut a sample with CutTools (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutTools.shtml).

[Bosko]

You do not need to convert to avi, use tsMuxeR and convert to m2ts and play directly for the PS3's HDD or USB stick. Also, with m2ts there is no file size restriction.

The 720p mkv's (converted to m2ts) will play in full screen using your PS3, you can either mux to Blu-ray or m2ts... which ever you prefer.

In order to play on an upconverting DVD player you will need to convert to DVD first, in the process downgrading to 480p... then the player will upconvert to 1080 or 720, which make no sense if you have a PS3, you definetly will lose quality.

Gotcha! Yeah, playing on a regular dvd player doesn't make any sense... D'oh! :)

So do I just follow the instructions from here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_mkv_content_on_playstation_3_ps3.cfm

You can also play them from a burned dvd, right?

And what's the difference between muxing them to mt2s or bluray? (I see that you can choose in those instructions linked to above...) Is one better/worse than the other for any reason?

Thanks for the help!

[odin24]

Gotcha! Yeah, playing on a regular dvd player doesn't make any sense... D'oh! :)

So do I just follow the instructions from here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_mkv_content_on_playstation_3_ps3.cfm

You can also play them from a burned dvd, right?

And what's the difference between muxing them to mt2s or bluray? (I see that you can choose in those instructions linked to above...) Is one better/worse than the other for any reason?

Thanks for the help!

The benefits of m2ts is you can use a USB stick, or play directly from the PS3's HDD. Also, it doesn't matter what the video resolution is, it will playback just fine. The drawbacks; only AC3 and LPCM is supported for audio, no DTS or HD audio, and no subtitles. Only h264 video is supported, VC-1 must be played as Blu-ray, not sure about MPEG-2 (old dinosaur) never tried it in m2ts. M2ts can be played off DVD but I wouldn't recommend it, I'd transfer it from the DVD and watch from the PS3's HDD... save your BD drive some wear & tear.

The benefits of playing as "Blu-ray" is all HD audio is supported, as well as DTS @ 1536kb/s, .srt and .sup subtitles are supported too. All BD compliant video codecs are supported (h264, VC-1, MPEG-2). You can incorporate chapter points and stream information. The drawbacks; only one as far as I can think of... the video res must be a proper one, i.e. 1920x1080 (not 1920x800, etc), 1440x1080, or 1280x720 (not 1280x528, etc).

I do my own rips, usually if the movie does not required subs, or have VC-1 as the video codec, I'll convert the HD audio to LPCM, transfer to the HDD (via media server as m2ts) and watch from it. I also have a few BD-RE just incase I need to use them for subtitles or VC-1 encodes.

That guide is pretty accurate, only for using the bare bones of tsMuxeR.

[n0mag!c]

The benefits of m2ts is you can use a USB stick, or play directly from the PS3's HDD. Also, it doesn't matter what the video resolution is, it will playback just fine. The drawbacks; only AC3 and LPCM is supported for audio, no DTS or HD audio, and no subtitles.
And only first audio track in file.
Only h264 video is supported, VC-1 must be played as Blu-ray, not sure about MPEG-2 (old dinosaur) never tried it in m2ts.
MPEG-2 video is supported too.
The benefits of playing as "Blu-ray" is all HD audio is supported, as well as DTS @ 1536kb/s, .srt and .sup subtitles are supported too.
Wow, wow, slow down!:) .srt isn't supported by PS3.

[odin24]

And only first audio track in file.

MPEG-2 video is supported too.

Wow, wow, slow down!:) .srt isn't supported by PS3.

LOL, tsMuxer accepts .srt and converts to .sup on the fly.

[rica]

LOL, tsMuxer accepts .srt and converts to .sup on the fly.

Correct :)

[n0mag!c]

By the way, I use 64 pixels for bottom offset, maybe 72 pixels would be better for any reason?

[odin24]

By the way, I use 64 pixels for bottom offset, maybe 72 pixels would be better for any reason?


Sometimes yes, sometimes no... Sometimes 32 is good enough.

I use SUPread to view the subs first, it will give you a good idea where the subs will be displayed onscreen. If the subs are almost touching the bottom of the SUPread display, that's how it'll be on your TV. Of course my rhyme & reason applies to .sup.. for .srt usually 64 or even 72-80 is good too.

If I am muxing .srt subs, I'll verify my offset by using AVCHD-ME and a small 5 minute sample.

[ggking7]

Can anyone tell me how to remux with tsmuxer via the command line, so that it will piece together streams from multiple non-sequential m2ts files? I think I need to point it toward an mpls file, but I can't seem to write a meta file that works. If someone could show me the way I'd really appreciate it.

[jdobbs]

Somewhere (in this thread?) someone posted an english version of the TSMUXER readme file. It helps a lot in putting together a good .META file for muxing from the command line.

[odin24]

It's a sticky in this forum. Good idea.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559

[ggking7]

I've come up with the following meta file but it doesn't quite work.

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "H:\videos\blu-ray\movie\BDMV\PLAYLIST\01007.mpls", insertSEI, contSPS, down-to-dts, mplsFile=01007, track=6913

Can anyone correct me? Where does that track number come from? I just copied it from the GUI.