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shortkud
26th May 2008, 13:31
I'm trying to rip a bluray movie in which the streams are split into 3 m2ts files. Only with 1 of them does tsMuxer report having video. The other two give me this error.

"Some tracks not recognized. This tracks was ignored." Then it just tells me the file name.

Anyone able to shed some light on this?

Here is a sample of the video, hopefully this helps more.

http://www.doinkdoink.us/00070.m2ts (00070.m2ts)

I have many more files like this that do the same thing. I am able to demux it with eac3to and I think TSRemux but that just gives different errors and its still unable to open the files.

rica
26th May 2008, 15:21
I'm still having no luck with the 'Sunshine' Bluray DVD, though.
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If you are still living issues with video try to extract it with Graphedit.
(Haali, or Cyberlink demuxer) > Dump (*.264)

You can directly re-encode the audio of your m2ts with eac3to.

EDIT: Sorry, i've just seen you've already solved the problem.

asarian
26th May 2008, 15:40
If you are still living issues with video try to extract it with Graphedit.
(Haali, or Cyberlink demuxer) > Dump (*.264)

You can directly re-encode the audio of your m2ts with eac3to.

EDIT: Sorry, i've just seen you've already solved the problem.

Yes, you're very observant. :)

I was just going to write in here, as apparently the problem occured because I had demuxed the H.264 stream first: after that, I can't stream the resultant (remuxed) m2ts file any more. I eventually solved it by simply not demuxing first, but instead to select just the original H.264 stream and add the new AC3 stream. And now it works fine again!

Leaves the mystery, of course, as to what breaks down in the demuxed H.264 stream so badly that I can no longer stream it over the wire? (whereas it would still play properly from harddisk). Maybe some sort of fps synchronization gets lost (but that sounds cuter than it's plausible, lol).

At any rate, thank you for your help!

SeeMoreDigital
26th May 2008, 15:40
Here is a sample of the video, hopefully this helps more.

http://www.doinkdoink.us/00070.m2ts (00070.m2ts)

I have many more files like this that do the same thing. I am able to demux it with eac3to and I think TSRemux but that just gives different errors and its still unable to open the files.Your sample contains VC-1 video. As far as I know TSmuxer does not support VC-1...

shortkud
26th May 2008, 15:48
Your sample contains VC-1 video. As far as I know TSmuxer does not support VC-1...

Is there something i'm missing?

Supported video codecs:
- H.264
- VC-1
- MPEG2

It opens other VC-1 files but for some reason not certain files from the disc.

asarian
26th May 2008, 15:58
It opens other VC-1 files but for some reason not certain files from the disc.

Wouldn't the physical disc have some AACS/BD+ protection on it?

SeeMoreDigital
26th May 2008, 16:01
Is there something i'm missing?

Supported video codecs:
- H.264
- VC-1
- MPEG2

It opens other VC-1 files but for some reason not certain files from the disc.My mistake then....

I wonder why it's not listed in the "Open" boxes drop-down list?

http://i26.tinypic.com/2akitsk.png

buggymonkey
26th May 2008, 16:42
Have a look at these:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1134283#post1134283

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1140952#post1140952

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1140965#post1140965

HI Rica
many thanks for that
but I was under the assumption that in bluray or m2ts stream the subtitles were in the PGS or presentation graphics stream within the m2ts file .????

so I am convert the video stream , 1 audio stream and the first english PGS stream . to m2ts stream so I have the film in one file with audio and eng subs

is this correct ?
I was assuming I would be able to get subtitles from this ??

if I am correct then somthing is wrong with the muxer .

or is it something wrong with me :eek:
many thanks:)

can someone confirm this is the case ?

rica
26th May 2008, 17:46
HI Rica
many thanks for that
but I was under the assumption that in bluray or m2ts stream the subtitles were in the PGS or presentation graphics stream within the m2ts file .????

so I am convert the video stream , 1 audio stream and the first english PGS stream . to m2ts stream so I have the film in one file with audio and eng subs

is this correct ?
I was assuming I would be able to get subtitles from this ??

if I am correct then somthing is wrong with the muxer .

or is it something wrong with me :eek:
many thanks:)

can someone confirm this is the case ?

Have you loaded DirectVobSub?/select the first download link:

http://www.free-codecs.com/DirectVobSub_download.htm

Don't forget you will lose HWA when you use DVSub. (BTW this is not related with DVSub itself but even any other post processing filter breaks down HA decoding workflow and it converts whole workflow into software mode.)

And have a look at this pls:

BTW i have to edit the thread:
For BD
Demux sup with TSMuxer
Convert it to srt with SupRead (Open sup > select "OCR all" > select SRT > select "save as SRT" )
and finally remux to TS with TSMuxer...



The critical point here is video, audio and created srt must be in the same directory and must have the same name.
Pls rename all the files as (for instance) test.vc1(or 264/mpv)
test.ac3, test.srt.

asarian
26th May 2008, 19:09
Your sample contains VC-1 video. As far as I know TSmuxer does not support VC-1...

Does that mean I can't extract a VC-1 stream with tsMuxer? (to remux it with another AC3 stream). Can someone confirm this, please.

Thanks

rica
26th May 2008, 19:21
Does that mean I can't extract a VC-1 stream with tsMuxer? (to remux it with another AC3 stream). Can someone confirm this, please.

Thanks

You can extract and remux VC1 stream.

asarian
27th May 2008, 21:34
You can extract and remux VC1 stream.

Thanks. Unfortunately, it seems I can't stream the VC-1 output to my PS3. :( Is there any way I can transcode it, perhaps?

rica
27th May 2008, 22:02
Thanks. Unfortunately, it seems I can't stream the VC-1 output to my PS3. :( Is there any way I can transcode it, perhaps?

Haven't tried any VC1 on PS3 but i did with a 264.
Check out my profile. (the second post of my thread might help)

rica
27th May 2008, 22:23
Anyway, i gonna try with a VC1 and mpeg file as well on PS3 and i'll edit this post when i get the results.

rica
27th May 2008, 23:05
Anyway, i gonna try with a VC1 and mpeg file as well on PS3 and i'll edit this post when i get the results.

They have been tested, both format works on PS3.
mpeg2 > Ultraviolet (origin: BD)
VC1 > Terminator 3 (origin HD-DVD)
no re-encoding at all.

Method:

Demux video and remove pulldown with TSMuxer. (rarely you might need to use VC1Conv to extract pulldown from some HD-DVD VC1 files)

Demux audio and re-encode it to ac3 with EAC3to (using command line is more flexible since you can open m2ts directly-for BD- and select the track whatever you want- for BD and HD-DVD- i will go on this way anyway for both format in re-authoring to BD.)

Demux subtitles with EVOdemux for HD-DVDs or use TS remux for BDs.
Convert extracted PGS to SRT with SUPread.

Remux all with TSMuxer as "Create Blu-Ray" option selected.

Burn with ImageBurn.

asarian
27th May 2008, 23:44
They have been tested, both format works on PS3.
mpeg2 > Ultraviolet (origin: BD)
VC1 > Terminator 3 (origin HD-DVD)
no re-encoding at all.

Method:

Demux video and remove pulldown with TSMuxer. (rarely you might need to use VC1Conv to extract pulldown from some HD-DVD VC1 files)

Demux and re-encode to ac3 with EAC3to (using command line is more flexible since you can open m2ts directly-for BD- and select the track whatever you want- for BD and HD-DVD- i will go on this way anyway for both format in re-authoring to BD.)

Demux subtitles with EVOdemux for HD-DVDs or use TS remux for BDs.
Convert extracted PGS to SRT with SUPread.

Remux all with TSMuxer as "Create Blu-Ray" option selected.

Burn with ImageBurn.

Thanks!! You're the greatest!

rica
27th May 2008, 23:49
Thanks for the compliment but i'm just a newbie trying to help afaik :)

asarian
28th May 2008, 01:51
They have been tested, both format works on PS3.
mpeg2 > Ultraviolet (origin: BD)
VC1 > Terminator 3 (origin HD-DVD)
no re-encoding at all.

[snip]

Sadly, this doesn't work, after all. :( At least, I can't stream the VC-1 content this way. Burning it on a BD-R is another matter; so your advice was still useful (haven't tried burning yet). But streaming is still a no-go, unfortunately.

EPiPH0NE
28th May 2008, 01:56
New version for Pcm2Tsmu (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8iy2b2).

Seems now work properly the STDOUT->STDIN with eac3to.
Remember the syntax:

eac3to input.dts stdout.pcm [eac3to_parameters] | pcm2tsmu - output_tsm.pcm [-i 16] [-c 2/4]

defaults: -i 24 -c 6

I think Yraen can include this new version in eac3to and More GUI.

I've seem to come across my first problem with Pcm2Tsmu. Trying to do The Matrix TrueHD -> PCM using:

eac3to source.mlp destination.pcm

Pcm2Tsmu destination.pcm destination_2.pcm

Video.vc1 + destination_2.pcm -> tsMuxeR -> final_destination.ts


I get constant garbled/hissing from the very beginning. Any ideas on how to fix this? I am going to try the Scenarist method later on and will report back........

rica
28th May 2008, 09:28
Sadly, this doesn't work, after all. :( At least, I can't stream the VC-1 content this way. Burning it on a BD-R is another matter; so your advice was still useful (haven't tried burning yet). But streaming is still a no-go, unfortunately.

I don't understand what you mean with "streaming" here but i burned them on standard DVDs.

asarian
28th May 2008, 10:09
I don't understand what you mean with "streaming" here but i burned them on standard DVDs.

Streamig, as in setting up a media server (Twonky Media) to 'stream' my movies over my LAN to my PS3. There are several advantages to that (no 4G limit, for one). So, I stream all my HD content from one central media server.

B4tm4n
28th May 2008, 13:58
Sadly, this doesn't work, after all. :( At least, I can't stream the VC-1 content this way. Burning it on a BD-R is another matter; so your advice was still useful (haven't tried burning yet). But streaming is still a no-go, unfortunately.

AFAIK you can't stream Vc1 content to a PS3.

asarian
28th May 2008, 14:56
AFAIK you can't stream Vc1 content to a PS3.

Which is why I'm looking for a way to transcode it to AVC. :)

B4tm4n
28th May 2008, 15:19
Which is why I'm looking for a way to transcode it to AVC. :)

Megui
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MeGUI

tebasuna51
28th May 2008, 16:07
I've seem to come across my first problem with Pcm2Tsmu. Trying to do The Matrix TrueHD -> PCM using:

eac3to source.mlp destination.pcm

Pcm2Tsmu destination.pcm destination_2.pcm

Video.vc1 + destination_2.pcm -> tsMuxeR -> final_destination.ts


I get constant garbled/hissing from the very beginning. Any ideas on how to fix this? I am going to try the Scenarist method later on and will report back........

I think the problem isn't in Pcm2Tsmu, only when TsMuxer reject the pcm can be a Pcm2Tsmu problem.

The problem is only at the begining and after is ok, or is always wrong?

Try
eac3to source.mlp destination.ac3
(or other kind of output) and listen to know if is a mlp decoding problem.

dbknightx
28th May 2008, 16:37
I've seem to come across my first problem with Pcm2Tsmu. Trying to do The Matrix TrueHD -> PCM using:

eac3to source.mlp destination.pcm

Pcm2Tsmu destination.pcm destination_2.pcm

Video.vc1 + destination_2.pcm -> tsMuxeR -> final_destination.ts


I get constant garbled/hissing from the very beginning. Any ideas on how to fix this? I am going to try the Scenarist method later on and will report back........
I've been having this exact same problem (as I posted in your Blu-Ray transcoding thread on NetworkMediaTank Forum). This happens with ALL HD-DVD TrueHD tracks I've tried (most recently the 5 Harry Potter movies).

Any suggestions on how to get HD-DVD TrueHD tracks into a lossless uncompressed form that TsMuxer will accept as LPCM would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Dave

tyee
28th May 2008, 16:42
Can anyone confirm that when tsmuxer creates an AVCHD BR structure with trueHD audio and it is copied to an external USB HDD folder named AVCHD, (and the files are renamed to 3 letter extension), that it will actually play the trueHD audio? I get video but no audio! I read here somewhere that selecting a DTS-HD MA soundtrack will work this way, so I'm just trying to confirm whether there is a bug in tsmuxer for trueHD or the PS3 does not support trueHD from USB HDD??

EPiPH0NE
28th May 2008, 17:16
I've been having this exact same problem (as I posted in your Blu-Ray transcoding thread on NetworkMediaTank Forum). This happens with ALL HD-DVD TrueHD tracks I've tried (most recently the 5 Harry Potter movies).

Any suggestions on how to get HD-DVD TrueHD tracks into a lossless uncompressed form that TsMuxer will accept as LPCM would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Dave

This worked:

eac3to source.mlp destination.wavs

destination.wavs + dummy.vc1 -> Scenarist -> destination_2.m2ts

Video.vc1 + destination_2.m2ts -> tsMuxeR -> final_destination.ts



It's strange because Top Gun HD-DVD with TrueHD plays fine using Pcm2Tsmu. Oh well, I have a working method for me. I've got some other stuff to do today........

buggymonkey
28th May 2008, 17:42
Have you loaded DirectVobSub?/select the first download link:

http://www.free-codecs.com/DirectVobSub_download.htm

Don't forget you will lose HWA when you use DVSub. (BTW this is not related with DVSub itself but even any other post processing filter breaks down HA decoding workflow and it converts whole workflow into software mode.)

And have a look at this pls:

Hi Rica

I seem to have found a fairly easy way to get the .SUP file to .srt file using SUPreader.exe from here http://pel.hu/down/SUPread.exe

all you need to do is demux the relevant PGS file to .sup file using tsMuxer.
read the sup file into SUPreader and output it as a .srt file .

this can then be used by mediacoder for inclusion into AVI or mkv or just name the file the same as your .m2ts file and load it into the same directory and my popcorn network media tank reads it straight off ......sorted :thanks:

one extra thing I found is the 'FORCED' subtitles are a stream in their own right so once you have found the right PGS do as above and you get forced subtitles :eek:

it would be greta to have SUPread as an addin to tsMuxer if possible ( yeah yeah I know :p )

rica
28th May 2008, 18:22
Streamig, as in setting up a media server (Twonky Media) to 'stream' my movies over my LAN to my PS3. There are several advantages to that (no 4G limit, for one). So, I stream all my HD content from one central media server.

OK, i haven't tried this yet since this PS3 toy belongs to my son and i don't know how to use it :)


Hi buggymonkey,

It seems there is one way more with MPC-HC, but i can't try; i'm living issues with this player:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137998

rica
28th May 2008, 22:45
AFAIK you can't stream Vc1 content to a PS3.

Why? Any explanation?

B4tm4n
28th May 2008, 23:09
Why? Any explanation?

Don't know, but think its down to the firmware.

rica
28th May 2008, 23:16
Don't know, but think its down to the firmware.

I think Sony doesn't like MS things, especially from ones created for HD-DVDs?

asarian
29th May 2008, 01:34
Megui
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MeGUI

To my eternal sadness, MeGui is as good as totally unusable in Vista:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1143137

I get the same errors everyone else is getting; and it seems they've given up on it (as there are no replies any more, except mine, since February).

So, I'm stuck now with many VC-1 titles that are just sitting on my media server, unstreamable. :(

Someone told me I might put them in a (streamable) WMV container, without having to transcode them, even. Is that true? I'd be forced to use 2.0 sound (what moonbrained genius at M$ came up with that brilliant limitation??). But I'm getting desperate here, so if anyone knows how that works, I'll be glad to hear that, too.

tom0520c
29th May 2008, 08:31
Can anyone confirm that when tsmuxer creates an AVCHD BR structure with trueHD audio and it is copied to an external USB HDD folder named AVCHD, (and the files are renamed to 3 letter extension), that it will actually play the trueHD audio? I get video but no audio! I read here somewhere that selecting a DTS-HD MA soundtrack will work this way, so I'm just trying to confirm whether there is a bug in tsmuxer for trueHD or the PS3 does not support trueHD from USB HDD??


After remux by TsMuxeR , remux it again by TsRemux . It works well

winnydows
29th May 2008, 09:15
AFAIK you can't stream Vc1 content to a PS3.
VC1 in WMV play fine on PS3 over TVersity Media Server (without any convertion). Only one problem for WMV - sound. PS3 don`t play 24-bit and 5.1 wma sound. I try now convert sound only for 24-bit movies, but no luck - can`t find any worked solution and don`t have time write my own tool.
Anybody know how create M2TS VC1 + AC3 from WMV ?
XviD4PSP can easy create AC3 form WMV, but TsMuxer don`t accept WMV conteiner.
ffmpeg and mencoder create broken MKV from WMV.

asarian
29th May 2008, 09:29
Megui
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MeGUI

Why, I got the Vista issues resolved. So, now I'm transcoding with MeGUI. I took a CQ-lossless profile, but it projected a 96G file size at some point -- a bit too much, even for my taste.

So, I transcoded a bit to RAWAVC. Hmm, odd, the H.264 stream is entirely black! I don't need 96G to achieve that; I can do that with 5 bytes! :) But seriously, what's with the black?

winnydows
29th May 2008, 09:34
@asarian
XviD4PSP 5.0 can easy transcode to MP4 PS3 or M2TS format.

In my case problem is how do it without video encoding (keep vc1 stream and reencode audio).
wmvmuxer-final-1.0 don`t work for me - always get error in different situations.

asarian
29th May 2008, 09:43
@asarian
XviD4PSP 5.0 can easy transcode to MP4 PS3 or M2TS format.

In my case problem is how do it without video encoding (keep vc1 stream and reencode audio).

Not sure I fully understand: if you keep the vc-1 video, how will you stream it? in a WMV container? But then you'd drop back to 2.0 audio!

And "XviD4PSP", not sure i like that name; I mean, we're past the Xvid stage, no? I want highest quality H.264, not some inferior Xvid codec. :)

n0mag!c
29th May 2008, 09:46
Anybody know how create M2TS VC1 + AC3 from WMV ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=136148

B4tm4n
29th May 2008, 09:49
You could always use the Fat32 hard drive and AVCHD approach and play all your VC1 encoded disc that way.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1126598#post1126598

asarian
29th May 2008, 10:00
You could always use the Fat32 hard drive and AVCHD approach and play all your VC1 encoded disc that way.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1126598#post1126598

But then you need to break things up in 4G chunks: not the ideal movie experience. :)

B4tm4n
29th May 2008, 10:03
But then you need to break things up in 4G chunks: not the ideal movie experience. :)
I only use this option when subtitles are needed. :)

asarian
29th May 2008, 10:11
So, I transcoded a bit to RAWAVC. Hmm, odd, the H.264 stream is entirely black! I don't need 96G to achieve that; I can do that with 5 bytes! :) But seriously, what's with the black?

I guess I'm not doing it right. The resulting mp4 can't be played ("an error occured"); and the RAWAVC stream is entirely black. That doesn't seem right.

Plus, the MeGUI 'analyze' option says the material is 'progressive', whereas tsMuxeR clearly says it's 1080i.

Any MeGUI experts here? :)

B4tm4n
29th May 2008, 10:26
I guess I'm not doing it right. The resulting mp4 can't be played ("an error occured"); and the RAWAVC stream is entirely black. That doesn't seem right.

Plus, the MeGUI 'analyze' option says the material is 'progressive', whereas tsMuxeR clearly says it's 1080i.

Any MeGUI experts here? :)

I'm not an expert, but use one of the bluray profiles.

winnydows
29th May 2008, 11:01
@asarian
Streaming possible in WMV or M2TS (renamed to MPG) conteiners.
XviD4PSP just history name. Now this is powerfull video/audio converter. With MP4, x264, M2TS and all other good tools inside.
About 5.1 - VC1 + AC3 in M2TS only. Or x264 + AC3 in M2TS too.
Recoding not a problem - open your file in XviD4PSP, set M2TS format and encode.
Problem only copy VC1 stream - PS3 play perfect VC1-WMV3 streams.

@n0mag!c
Thanks for tip, but TsMuxer don`t accept WMV3 FOURCC. Will try replace FOURCC to WVC1 now. Hope it help.
Also play with WMV to WMV remuxing. Found Windows Media Stream Editor tool (inside WM9 enc). Tool perfect demux streams and let create correct audio for PS3. But don`t let mux back a + v stream to wmv, may be my mistake ?

Update:
WVC1 FOURCC don`t help. TsMuxer still don`t accept VC1 stream from MKV created with gdsmux from WMV.

asarian
29th May 2008, 12:16
@asarian
Streaming possible in WMV or M2TS (renamed to MPG) conteiners.
XviD4PSP just history name. Now this is powerfull video/audio converter. With MP4, x264, M2TS and all other good tools inside.
About 5.1 - VC1 + AC3 in M2TS only. Or x264 + AC3 in M2TS too.
Recoding not a problem - open your file in XviD4PSP, set M2TS format and encode.
Problem only copy VC1 stream - PS3 play perfect VC1-WMV3 streams.

My, I stand corrected then! :) I'm going to try it out immediately. Thanks!

tyee
29th May 2008, 14:55
@tom0520c
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try! What if I used only tsRemux in the first place and not tsmuxer, would I only have to do it once??

73ChargerFan
29th May 2008, 16:22
Does tsMuxeR remap the blu-ray LPCM channels when demuxing, like eac3to?

I searched, but could find only one post, (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1112986#post1112986) which I don't think is definitive.

Also, has anyone translated the readme.txt file yet?

Thanks.

Momber
29th May 2008, 18:10
Oh great. The PS3 victims have finally taken over this thread for good. Time to move on I guess...