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EPiPH0NE
15th September 2008, 08:16
Not if you want to keep the movie, which most people do.

I would just use the BD-RE 25/50 to watch the movies on the stand alone that decoded the HD audio for me -> 5.1 PCM or just do DTS-MA/TrueHD -> 5.1 PCM than remux myself and using multi set DVD-R's to 'keep' the movie :) You got to be filthy rich to be able to backup movies to BD-R or literally have money to burn and I certainly do not. I burn enough as is.

G_M_C
15th September 2008, 08:18
TrueHD problems

Have you searched through this tread ? Duppie has allready made several post around this board about his tests (and a few solutions) on TrueHD Muxing.

And people that try to transmux their original BD to DVD should start to think again. That would defenately not work on stand-allone players, and i'll doubt it'll work on PC's. DVD simply cant generate the transferrate needed. Read around, and especially several (allmost identical) posts i've made on the max. transferrates/bitrates that you can use on BD5/9 (BD stucture on DVD5 / 9).

Nullity
15th September 2008, 13:57
Now that I think about it, I thought I read somewhere in this thread (or it could have been the eac3to thread) that importing a thd+ac3 audio track into TsMuxer instead of just thd, will work just fine. I haven't tried this personally, but you might want to give it a shot. You can convert a TrueHD track with the following command:

eac3to audio.thd audio.thd+ac3

Beastie Boy
15th September 2008, 14:03
Now that I think about it, I thought I read somewhere in this thread (or it could have been the eac3to thread) that importing a thd+ac3 audio track into TsMuxer instead of just thd, will work just fine. I haven't tried this personally, but you might want to give it a shot. You can convert a TrueHD track with the following command:

eac3to audio.thd audio.thd+ac3

Yes, it does work, but you apparently need to run the tsMuxeR output through TsRemux to correct errors.

Cheers, Beastie.

meloncin
15th September 2008, 16:15
there is a new version of tsmuxer in the smlabs website:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.6(b).zip

G_M_C
15th September 2008, 16:22
there is a new version of tsmuxer in the smlabs website:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.6(b).zip

No changelog etc ?

rebkell
15th September 2008, 16:47
No changelog etc ?

No GUI either.

Nullity
15th September 2008, 16:47
there is a new version of tsmuxer in the smlabs website:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.6(b).zip

Interesting, only the CLI application has been updated, not the GUI. Perhaps bug fixes?

Good find!

EPiPH0NE
15th September 2008, 16:51
Well at least roman is still working on it :)

rack04
15th September 2008, 17:01
Interesting, only the CLI application has been updated, not the GUI. Perhaps bug fixes?

Good find!

Latest GUI is 1.8.5(b)

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

Nullity
15th September 2008, 17:12
Latest GUI is 1.8.5(b)

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

Except you linked to 1.8.4. ;)

Here it is: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.5(b).zip

hdpete
15th September 2008, 17:14
I would just use the BD-RE 25/50 to watch the movies on the stand alone that decoded the HD audio for me -> 5.1 PCM or just do DTS-MA/TrueHD -> 5.1 PCM than remux myself and using multi set DVD-R's to 'keep' the movie :) You got to be filthy rich to be able to backup movies to BD-R or literally have money to burn and I certainly do not. I burn enough as is.

I admit they are still pricey but they are coming down, I get my BD-R 25gb discs from eBay seller nikonekobaby, they're the cheapest I've seen for Sony and TDK discs.
It's the only option for me, there's no point in having an expensive home cinema amp and having all your ripped Blu-Rays on a PC which can't pass through HD audio formats. Having said that, Auzentech are due to release an HD audio solution for PC's soon.

hdpete
15th September 2008, 17:21
Now that I think about it, I thought I read somewhere in this thread (or it could have been the eac3to thread) that importing a thd+ac3 audio track into TsMuxer instead of just thd, will work just fine. I haven't tried this personally, but you might want to give it a shot. You can convert a TrueHD track with the following command:

eac3to audio.thd audio.thd+ac3

It didn't work for me, whatever I do, if a TrueHD track goes through TsMuxer at any stage it won't play on my Sony BDP-S350 and Onkyo amp.
TsRemux on it's own works for me if I only need to re-arrange the contents of the original blu-ray.

baudi
15th September 2008, 18:56
I admit they are still pricey but they are coming down, I get my BD-R 25gb discs from eBay seller nikonekobaby, they're the cheapest I've seen for Sony and TDK discs.
It's the only option for me, there's no point in having an expensive home cinema amp and having all your ripped Blu-Rays on a PC which can't pass through HD audio formats. Having said that, Auzentech are due to release an HD audio solution for PC's soon.

There is an Asus sound board also:

Asus Xonar HDAV1.3

See:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=25&l2=150&l3=0&l4=0&model=2355&modelmenu=1

EPiPH0NE
15th September 2008, 19:52
I admit they are still pricey but they are coming down, I get my BD-R 25gb discs from eBay seller nikonekobaby, they're the cheapest I've seen for Sony and TDK discs.
It's the only option for me, there's no point in having an expensive home cinema amp and having all your ripped Blu-Rays on a PC which can't pass through HD audio formats. Having said that, Auzentech are due to release an HD audio solution for PC's soon.

That's guys prices seem OK but I would save yourself some serious cash over time and use my method with a single BD-RE 25 and a single BD-RE 50 for viewing on your stand alone and just use TSSplitter/tsMuxeR/HDBDSplit to archive the movies on DVD-R, you would just need to rejoin them and burn when you want to watch them. This is what I do now on my NMT, w/o the burning and it only cost me pennies on the dollar and for the price of 1 BD-R 25 i can archive almost 10 BluRay/HD-DVD's and 20 for the price of one BD-R 50. Even at Ebay prices. If you already have a stand alone why the need for HD audio on your PC? Just seems like a waste of money that could be used for something else when your BluRay player can already decode TrueHD and you could easily do DTS-MA -> PCM then burn to BD-RE for viewing. I would save your cash for a BluRay player that can decode all HD audio if you want to do the least work. But I guess to each their own. That is my ultimate goal and if you use my backup method you could easily save enough for a PS3 or one of the newer Sony players in no time ;)



Anyway, back on topic. Anybody get a chance to try out 1.8.6(b)? Does it fix anything?

rack04
15th September 2008, 20:39
Except you linked to 1.8.4. ;)

Here it is: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.5(b).zip

You got me. Sorry. :rolleyes:

rica
15th September 2008, 21:18
Anyway, back on topic. Anybody get a chance to try out 1.8.6(b)? Does it fix anything?

Tried TrueHD; what is changing is nothing :devil:

EPiPH0NE
15th September 2008, 21:40
Tried TrueHD; what is changing is nothing :devil:


Oh well :rolleyes:

NexGen76
15th September 2008, 22:21
Can anyone explain why im getting a Unsupported Format error.Some tracks not recognized.I rip my file off BD to my Harddrive using Anydvd HD. For some reason this is happen to every BD i rip but i never had this issue before until a few weeks ago.Thxs

EPiPH0NE
16th September 2008, 08:02
Can anyone explain why im getting a Unsupported Format error.Some tracks not recognized.I rip my file off BD to my Harddrive using Anydvd HD. For some reason this is happen to every BD i rip but i never had this issue before until a few weeks ago.Thxs

Yes, tsMuxeR is known to not be compatible with some tracks hence they will not import. You can try TsRemux as an alternative.

nirmal_dvd
16th September 2008, 08:13
Hi epiphone
can u help , i want know about buffer value in hdmv authoring

EPiPH0NE
16th September 2008, 15:41
Hi epiphone
can u help , i want know about buffer value in hdmv authoring

LOL...so do I :rolleyes:

EPiPH0NE
16th September 2008, 23:20
I get this error when trying to remux:

The Bourne Ultimatum (HD-DVD -> TS (VC-1+ 5.1 PCM)

The Perfect Storm (BluRay -> M2TS (VC-1 + 5.1 PCM)

The only constant is VC-1 and PCM but I have muxed a lot of other VC-1/PCM BluRay/HD-DVD's w/o problems? I Googled and found a post over at SlySoft but the guy wound up re-installing all his A/V apps and I don't have time for that. Anybody know how to fix this or increase the AV buffer in tsMuxeR. I haven't tried running these through Scenarist yet but that's my next move...Anybody :confused:


sm0k3 time :)

Nullity
18th September 2008, 00:46
My fault, you are correct, MKVmerge doesn't accept TrueHD audio. I had thought I gotten it to work a while back when I was doing a bunch of format testing, but I must have been mistaken.

Sorry about that, I guess I should have tested it again to make sure before I replied. :(

EDIT: Oddly enough, when trying to import a thd+ac3 audio file, MKVmerge accepts it, but thinks it is an AVC/h.264 video stream.

I have an (unfortunate) update on this...

I emailed Mosu, the mkvtoolnix maintainer, about adding TrueHD support:

Hello,

I love your mkvtoolnix programs and I had a question regarding upcoming features. I see that you have recently added support for DTS-MA and 7.1 channel E-AC3 (in latest beta) audio, but I was wondering if you had any plans to add support for the Dolby TrueHD format?

I like to backup my Blu-ray disks to mkv and play them from a media server. Many Blu-rays include a TrueHD audio track that I would like to use, but as it is not yet supported, I must use a lower quality track, or convert to PCM which takes up a huge amount of hard disk space.

If you haven't already planned to, please consider supporting Dolby TrueHD audio.

Thank you for your time.

And his response...

Probably not. I don't have specs for Dolby TrueHD, nor do I have such files.

Regards,
Mosu

Bummer :(

anhba
18th September 2008, 03:58
Hello, when a ripped M2TS or TS, MKV file is opened in tsMuxeR (v1.4.8.b) I used to see the language of each track such as eng, spa, ger etc. but now it shows nothing against each track (all blank).
Can anyone please help me regain this capability?
THANKS!

ibius
19th September 2008, 23:20
Hi all, I wanna demux LPCM audio from one of the BD movies and I just found out that tsmuxer doesnt fully support the format.
When I try to demux it with tsmuxer I dont get track info in the status window, the process is taking way too long and after aborting I get an WAV file.
What other tool would you guys recommend, maybe tsremux, although there isnt really an option for that and I get almost 100% cpu usage on my old 2 GHz Athlon XP when tsremux is running.?

Cheers

rack04
19th September 2008, 23:46
Hi all, I wanna demux LPCM audio from one of the BD movies and I just found out that tsmuxer doesnt fully support the format.
When I try to demux it with tsmuxer I dont get track info in the status window, the process is taking way too long and after aborting I get an WAV file.
What other tool would you guys recommend, maybe tsremux, although there isnt really an option for that and I get almost 100% cpu usage on my old 2 GHz Athlon XP when tsremux is running.?

Cheers

eac3to

odin24
20th September 2008, 00:41
Can anyone explain why im getting a Unsupported Format error.Some tracks not recognized.I rip my file off BD to my Harddrive using Anydvd HD. For some reason this is happen to every BD i rip but i never had this issue before until a few weeks ago.Thxs

You are getting this error because of the digital copy that comes with the BD, it is most likey AAC audio that is giving the error.

SeeMoreDigital
20th September 2008, 09:47
it is most likey AAC audio that is giving the error.How can that be? AAC audio is not a Blu-ray specified audio format!

hdpete
20th September 2008, 10:33
Hi all, I wanna demux LPCM audio from one of the BD movies and I just found out that tsmuxer doesnt fully support the format.
When I try to demux it with tsmuxer I dont get track info in the status window, the process is taking way too long and after aborting I get an WAV file.
What other tool would you guys recommend, maybe tsremux, although there isnt really an option for that and I get almost 100% cpu usage on my old 2 GHz Athlon XP when tsremux is running.?

Cheers

What do you want to do with the demuxed LPCM file?

odin24
20th September 2008, 12:59
How can that be? AAC audio is not a Blu-ray specified audio format!


I have yet to use the digital copy that comes with most BDs nowadays (no use for them), I'm only speculating that the problem is there and that is the audio format used. Does anybody know what audio format is packed with the digital copy?

Let me rephrase: Is the digital copy on the actual BD or is it downloaded from another source with a code or something like that?

ibius
20th September 2008, 13:50
@hdpete: I wanna mux it back in, this specific BD release has many audio tracks, I just wanna keep the LPCM audio.
There is a tool called Pcm2Tsmu, its a little utility to convert lpcm files to a format accepted by TsMuxer (lpcm data in blocks with little headers).

saunupe1911
20th September 2008, 18:32
Guys I need some help. Subtitles aren't showing up in my M2TS files while playing them back on a PS3. I always leave the subtitle check boxes checked whenever I convert an MKV, but the it seems the PS3 is not recognizing them when I hit the subtitle button or tab. What am I doing wrong?

tebasuna51
20th September 2008, 19:16
@hdpete: I wanna mux it back in, this specific BD release has many audio tracks, I just wanna keep the LPCM audio.
There is a tool called Pcm2Tsmu, its a little utility to convert lpcm files to a format accepted by TsMuxer (lpcm data in blocks with little headers).

You can use eac3to to extract the LPCM audio, see eac3to:How to use (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use)

After know the 'title' (2 for instance), the 'track' (5 for instance), 'bitdepth' (16), 'channels' (8) and 'samplerate' (96000), the final sintax can be like:

eac3to "your_folder_source" 2) 5: stdout.pcm | Pcm2Tsmu - output.pcm -i 16 -c 8 -s 96000

tebasuna51
20th September 2008, 19:26
Guys I need some help. Subtitles aren't showing up in my M2TS files while playing them back on a PS3. I always leave the subtitle check boxes checked whenever I convert an MKV, but the it seems the PS3 is not recognizing them when I hit the subtitle button or tab. What am I doing wrong?

PS3 don't display subtitles from loose M2TS files.

saunupe1911
20th September 2008, 19:38
PS3 don't display subtitles from loose M2TS files.

Crap, i never realized that. What about VOB files? I'm trying to watch Eastern Promises and of course I can't understand the Russian. Does anyone have a solution for Subtitle watching on a PS3

Atak_Snajpera
20th September 2008, 23:45
Blu-Ray structure

Butterfly666
21st September 2008, 00:15
Crap, i never realized that. What about VOB files? I'm trying to watch Eastern Promises and of course I can't understand the Russian. Does anyone have a solution for Subtitle watching on a PS3


Yep bluray structure (AVCHD) The resolution of the movie must be 1920*1080 or 1280*720. If the resolution is not correct, you will get a greenbar on the screen

G_M_C
23rd September 2008, 12:36
I've come across something strange, and i want to ask if somebody knows what's up ...

I've made a reencode/backup of a BD, and for expirimental reasons i've tried to remux the original DTS-MA. According to duppies expiriments it should work, but i get some strange results.

I add my H264 file, and set framerate. After this i add the DTS-MA track, and set language. I alsso set the "split" -option to 4,35 GiB, and up to this moment averything works fine. Then i start muxing, first to M2TS because i need those 2 files to end up with 2 "BD5's. And that works fine too.

But now the strange thing: When i cancel the operation, and for example end up with a 2 GB M2TS and make that into a BD5, the resulting BD5 plays fine after burning. But when I let the whole operation finish and make the complete 4,35 GiB BD5 & burn that, my player says "unsupported".

So "partially finished" files work, really finished product doesnt :confused: And that only with DTS-MA files, all other audio-streams work ....

I've come up with the idea that it might be that somehow only smaller M2TS-files with DTS-MA will work. So this evening i'll try and see if a BD5 with 2 * 2,175 GiB M2TS-files will work (hopefully the split-option on tsMuxeR works correctly on blu-ray; I've seen that it splits, and creates different M2TS in the STREAM-directory, but I havent tested it yet to see if it makes a working playlist).

Any ideas / suggestions, or is it a error in the players firmware ?

jofarmer
23rd September 2008, 14:20
Please forgive me, but I do not have the time to go to the over 100 pages of this thread. Searching it did not bring up an answer to my question:

Is there a Linux how-to anywhere? I tried creating the meta file by myself, but now that I think I did everything right I just get a "VBV buffer overflow at position xxxx.xx" error at a rate of several hundred errors/sek.

The resulting file (a mux of several .sup and .ac3 and one .264) has roughly the right size but will not play back in vlc...

kaid
23rd September 2008, 14:20
I've come across something strange, and i want to ask if somebody knows what's up ...

But now the strange thing: When i cancel the operation, and for example end up with a 2 GB M2TS and make that into a BD5, the resulting BD5 plays fine after burning. But when I let the whole operation finish and make the complete 4,35 GiB BD5 & burn that, my player says "unsupported".

I've come up with the idea that it might be that somehow only smaller M2TS-files with DTS-MA will work. So this evening i'll try and see if a BD5 with 2 * 2,175 GiB M2TS-files will work (hopefully the split-option on tsMuxeR works correctly on blu-ray; I've seen that it splits, and creates different M2TS in the STREAM-directory, but I havent tested it yet to see if it makes a working playlist).

Any ideas / suggestions, or is it a error in the players firmware ?

It might be a 64bit adressing thing, though theoretically this should not happen with a Transport Stream. I know the PS3 has that with MP4, it can't play MP4s beyond 4GB (though it does work with AVI, m2ts and probably VOB, too)...

kaid
23rd September 2008, 14:23
Anyone ever got tsmuxers BD mux option to work with 1080i?
I tried it with 3 different 1080is, all with 50fps (25fps non-interlaced), and I would always get the black screen of death (what's up with that anyway? PS3 needs to be power-cycled to get out of there? wtf?)
1080i@50 should be supported according to the spec!...

720p and 1080p AVCHDs play fine (as long as they don't have 25fps)...

G_M_C
23rd September 2008, 14:27
It might be a 64bit adressing thing, though theoretically this should not happen with a Transport Stream. I know the PS3 has that with MP4, it can't play MP4s beyond 4GB (though it does work with AVI, m2ts and probably VOB, too)...

Strange isn't it ? Especially because it only happens with DTS-MA files, on all other BD's i make there is no problem with filesize; Even if it is > 7 or 8 Gb (or much larger).

But i'm gonna investigate further !

G_M_C
23rd September 2008, 17:55
Strange isn't it ? Especially because it only happens with DTS-MA files, on all other BD's i make there is no problem with filesize; Even if it is > 7 or 8 Gb (or much larger).

But i'm gonna investigate further !

Found the solution; Somehow booktype setting of my DVD-RW's was off ... on DVD-RW. Booktype has to be set to DVD-ROM for it to work.

Havent got a clue what happened, might be that IMGBurn is the culprit; Si8nce i've upgraded i've had a few " hangs" after burning a DVD, but what happened/is the problem .. havent got a clue especially because there was no problem on smaller files. But my problem is solved now :)

n0mag!c
24th September 2008, 11:57
Anyone ever got tsmuxers BD mux option to work with 1080i?
I've burned 1080@30i MPEG-2 video on BD-R[E] and it plays just fine on PS3. But TsMuxer don't properly (for PS3 (and imho for other stand-alone blu-ray players)) mux interlaced MPEG-2 videos, as I reported in this thread many posts earlier. I successfully muxed it with sonic scenarist.

rdk
26th September 2008, 15:52
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b).zip

kurt
26th September 2008, 16:18
great!

does the readme contain a changelog? I don't speak russian :)

yonta
26th September 2008, 16:52
No changelog?

OK, one thing I can tell is that the bug with a True-HD track has not been fixed!

B4tm4n
26th September 2008, 17:05
great!

does the readme contain a changelog? I don't speak russian :)


Google translation.

Translation: Russian » English
How to use myukserom from the command line:



We need to create a file with the extension. Meta. This file lists the files you want to smyuksit in TS.

The first line of meta file can be specified additional parameters that apply to all tracks.

In this case the line should begin with the words MUXOPT.





The following line indicates a list of tracks and their parameters.



The format is as follows:

<Code Name "," title "," More options>

More options list separated by commas. For each parameter indicates the name and value.

Example META file:



V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, D: \ media \ test \ stream.h264, fps = 25

A_AC3, D: \ media \ test \ stream.ac3, timeshift =- 10000ms



In this example, occurs myuksing one way audio format AC3 and one videodorogi format H264.





Additional parameters of audio and video tracks:



fps - to videodorozhek and tracks with sabtitrami can clearly define the importance fps (see example above). If fps is not specified, he nachityvaetsya of flux.





level - allows you to overwrite the field level in the flow of H264. For example, you can change the profile High@5.1 to High@4.1.

Note that only updates the title. H264 flow can not meet the requirements

a lower level.



insertSEI - parameter is used only for the video H.264. When activated, it prosihodit the following: if the original video does not contain

Information SEI picture timing and SEI buffering period, then the info is added to the stream. This option is recommended

for better compatibility with the device Sony Playstation 3.



contSPS - parameter is used only for the video H.264. When you switch the setting, if the original video contains no cyclical repetitive

elements SPS / PPS (with imports from MKV it can be recorded only once at the beginning of the file), the SPS / PPS will be further inserted into a stream

before each key personnel. We recommend that you always include this option.

Note: For x264 flows videopleyer Dune HD can not decode re-SPS component, perhaps this is an error in the current firmware player.



delPulldown - for videodorozhek. Harvesting of the track tag pulldown. Attention! When you switch the setting delPulldown usually require input

new value fps, different values than in the stream. For example, if the flow fps 29.97, after the inclusion delPulldown require

put fps = 23.976.



timeshift - For audio tracks, and tracks with sabtitrami supported setting timeshift, may be more or less than zero.

Value for timeshift set in milliseconds (at the end should be ms) or in seconds (at the end of the letter s). This option

allows audio track in time to move forward (positive value) or backward.



down-to-dts - available only to track DTS-HD. Makes conversion DTS-HD in the standard DTS.

down-to-ac3 - is only available for tracks TRUE-HD c AC3 inside the nucleus (usually written on the Blu-ray discs).



track - starting with version 0.9.96 an opportunity to refer to the track behind other containers. In this case, you must indicate

track number inside the container.

mplsFile - a reference to the MPLS file, which the media file is the current track. This information allows a more accurate

handle joints files in the performance of the operation (append). The option is only available for tracks that are

inside M2TS files. As a value indicates the number MPLS file. For example: mplsFile = 00048. The file is searched on

Media file folders in subdirectories. / .. / PLAYLIST and. / .. / BACKUP / PLAYLIST.

When you combine a large number of files with Blu-ray Disc (10 and over), recommended that

option. If you do not enable this option and the Blu-ray disc used playlist with connection_condition = 5, at every junction of

will accumulate desync audio / video sabtitrov about 17ms (from 0 to the length of the audio frame the current track).

This option is automatically filled in the GUI when you open a file MPLS.



Settings for text sabtitrov SRT:

video-width - the width of the video in pixels

video-height - the height of the video in pixels

fps - fps video

bottom-offset - depart from the lower edge while displaying text.

font-name - the name of the font used in quotes

font-color - font color, for example, 0x00FFFFFF. Color can be introduced in hexadecimal or decimal form.

font-size - the font size

font-italic - displaying text, with an inclination

font-bold - bold display text

font-underline - underlined text

font-strikeout - crossed the text



In sabtitrah SRT also supported by the following text tags, the syntax and parameters which coincide with HTML:

<b>, <i>, <u>, <strike>, <font>. The font size default 3 (size of font-size dpi).

For example:

<b> <font size=5 color="deepskyblue" name="Arial"> <u> Test </ u> <font size= 4 color="#806040"> colored </ font> text </ font> < / b>





Supported containers:

- TS/M2TS/MTS

- EVO / VOB / MPG

- MKV

- MPLS (Blu-ray media play list file)



For a track number, run: tsMuxer <container file name>.



To start myuksera need to open the windows terminal, far or other file manager and type:

tsMuxer <meta name of the file> <TS file name>



Names of codecs in the meta file:

V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC - H264

V_MS/VFW/WVC1 - VC1

V_MPEG-2 - MPEG2



A_AC3 - DD (AC3) / DD (E-AC3) / True HD (True HD only tracks with AC3 core inside).

A_AAC - AAC

A_DTS - DTS / DTS-HD

A_MP3 - MPEG audio layer 1/2/3

A_LPCM - raw pcm data or PCM WAVE file



S_HDMV / PGS - sabtitry format Presentation Graphic Stream.

S_TEXT/UTF8 - sabtitry format SRT. The text file should be in unicode. Any formats: UTF-8, UTF-16 (little-endoan,

big-endian), UTF-32 (little-endian, big-endian).





More options myuksera in line MUXOPT.



The parameters of this group vliyat the entire flow as a whole, rather than on a separate track. Options are listed through the gap.





- pcr-on-video-pid - did not provide a separate PID for PCR, and use an existing video PID.

- new-audio-pes - use bytes 0xfd instead 0xbd to track AC3, True-HD, DTS and DTS-HD. This is in line with standard Blu-ray.

-vbr - to use variable bitrate

- minbitrate = xxxx - sets the lower limit vbr bitrate. If the stream is a smaller number of bytes will be inserted NULL packets

for avoiding flow to the correct lane.

- maxbitrate = xxxx - the upper limit vbr bitrate.

- cbr - myuksinga regime with a fixed bitrate. Options - vbr and - cbr should not be used together.

- vbv-len - the length of the virtual buffer in milliseconds. The default value is 500. Typically, this option is used in conjunction with - cbr.

The parameter is similar to the value of vbv-buffer-size coder in the x264, but is set not in kilobitah, and in milliseconds (with constant bitrate

they can be counted at each other). If you are self-encoded file in the x264 in constant bitrate, for more

smooth broadcasting file in the network are encouraged to make the same (or less) this setting than in the x264. When the virtual overflow

buffer in the log will withdraw the relevant error.

- bitrate = xxxx - bitrate for the regime myuksinga fixed bitrate.

Values - maxbitrate, - minbitrate and - bitrate indicated in kilobitah per second. You can not use the serial number separator

between the whole and fractional part of a character point. For example: - maxbitrate = 19423.432

- no-asyncio - not to create a separate thread to record output files. The inclusion of this regime is also repeals the flag FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING.

This somewhat reduces the speed record, but allows you to see the amount of output file as you work.

- auto-chapters = nn - insert a chapter every nn minutes. Only in the blu-ray muxing.

- custom-chapters = <line parameters> - insert a chapter in the field. Only in the blu-ray muxing.

A string of parameters is as follows: hh: mm: ss; hh: mm: ss, etc. A semicolon listed timestamps, which

must insert a new chapter. The line should not contain spaces.

- demux - in this mode selected audio and video tracks are stored as separate files. The processing paths are superimposed

All selected effects, such as change of level for h.264. When demux certain types of tracks is always podverayutsya changes in the

stored in a file:

- Subtitles in a Presentation graphic stream is converted into a format sup

- PCM audio are saved as WAV files. Also automatically splitting into several files,

If the size of WAV file exceed 4Gb.

- cut-start - Trim the beginning of the file. Value should be completed "ms" (the number of milliseconds), "s" (seconds) or "min" (the number of minutes)

- cut-end - Trim the end of the file. Value should be completed "ms" (the number of milliseconds), "s" (seconds) or "min" (the number of minutes)

- split-duration - cut off in time. The time specified in seconds. The length of each part will always be a little less than imposed values

because point gap file only on key frames (or on the Limits of audiofreymov if there is no video).

It is controlled that the next valid point gap should not exceed a specified value.

- split-size - to cut output file size. The length of each part will always be a little less than imposed values.

Value should be completed in one of the following prefixes:

Kb - meaning specified in kilobytes (1000 bytes).

Kib - the value specified in units of 2 ^ 10 bytes.

mb - the value specified in megabytes (1000000 bytes).

mib - the value specified in units of 2 ^ 20 bytes.

gb - the value stated in gigabytes (1000000000 bytes).

gib - the value specified in units of 2 ^ 30 bytes.







When tsMuxer does not use external filters (codecs).

turbojet
26th September 2008, 18:18
does a linux version supporting srt exist yet?

Deckard2019
26th September 2008, 19:10
I need to delete end credits from a movie to make it fit into a BD-R 25.
But there's a small scene at the end : MOVIE -> CREDITS -> SCENE.
What would be the best way to do this ?
Thank you.

turbojet
26th September 2008, 20:34
I haven't tried but maybe cut out movie with the streams you want, output to m2ts, cut credits with the same streams you want, output to m2ts, load movie m2ts and append credits m2ts.
I've appeneded multiple files before and all was ok except for subtitles in the parts after the first file didn't work.

Butterfly666
27th September 2008, 00:58
I have a complete bdmv and certificate of a movie with menu. It plays fine on pc but I want to play this with menu on a extern hd on the
ps3.
So first I make a new AVCHD with TSmuxer to split the m2ts and rename the stream with AVCHD-me. Then I copy all the files CLIPINFO, BDJO, BACKUP etc of the orginal movie to the maps that Tsmuxer made. I renamed CLIPINFO, BDJO, BACKUP also with avchd me but when playing I get no video.
Has anyone done this before to play AVCHD with menu?
Please help me out!

G_M_C
29th September 2008, 09:30
Google translation.
[...]
A_AC3 - DD (AC3) / DD (E-AC3) / True HD (True HD only tracks with AC3 core inside).
[...]

Has anyone allready tested the TrueHD capabillities ? The earliers version didn't work correctly.

Sorry to say that i have no current samples to test.

However i have allready made a DB9 with DTS-MA, and can confirm it works (it plays like it should on my Pana bd30 at least). But i had to tweak some settings to get it right, so I'll have to do some more testing to be shure on the "how to".

rica
29th September 2008, 15:44
Has anyone allready tested the TrueHD capabillities ? The earliers version didn't work correctly.

Sorry to say that i have no current samples to test.

However i have allready made a DB9 with DTS-MA, and can confirm it works (it plays like it should on my Pana bd30 at least). But i had to tweak some settings to get it right, so I'll have to do some more testing to be shure on the "how to".

The first question was the same for me and i gave it a go.
You still need a second pass with TSremux to get a working TrueHD BD.

russellhq
29th September 2008, 21:58
First off, great program! Has saved me a lot of bother.

Having a bit of trouble though. I get this error on some of the mkv files I've tried converting:

Matroska parse error: Read error at pos: 57546323

This mkv is h264 with AC3 audio. Is there any way I can scan the mkv to check if it has any errors and fix them? Or is this a problem with tsMuxeR?

kaid
2nd October 2008, 01:12
I have a complete bdmv and certificate of a movie with menu. It plays fine on pc but I want to play this with menu on a extern hd on the
ps3.
So first I make a new AVCHD with TSmuxer to split the m2ts and rename the stream with AVCHD-me. Then I copy all the files CLIPINFO, BDJO, BACKUP etc of the orginal movie to the maps that Tsmuxer made. I renamed CLIPINFO, BDJO, BACKUP also with avchd me but when playing I get no video.
Has anyone done this before to play AVCHD with menu?
Please help me out!

This will most certainly not work. I do not know this program AVCHD me and what it does, but if you only replace .m2ts files it will not work, because .clpi files in CLIPINFO and .mpls files in PLAYLIST need to match the specs and length of the m2ts files exactly in order for the AVCHD to play, so you cannot use them with the m2ts' tsmuxer split.

Also, even if you get it to play, you will most likely get problems with the bitrate, since AVCHD only allows up to 16MBit streams, and BDs are usually a higher bitrate...

Try my script (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141173) if you want an AVCHD with menu, though in your case it's probably not the kind of menu you're after... ;-)

P.S: New version out. Hooray! Only Windows again - boo! Linux version still b0rked in BD muxing...

kaid
2nd October 2008, 01:18
First off, great program! Has saved me a lot of bother.

Having a bit of trouble though. I get this error on some of the mkv files I've tried converting:



This mkv is h264 with AC3 audio. Is there any way I can scan the mkv to check if it has any errors and fix them? Or is this a problem with tsMuxeR?

Yeah, just use a hexeditor that can edit files of any size and go to the offset given (57546323 = 0x36E1653)..
I've found nice fat holes of zeroes right in the middle of some mkvs that both players and demuxers just quit upon reaching, beats me how these got there!

If yours is like this and the index is fine (=you can skip through it alright): don't delete those zeroes, or it will mess up your index! copypaste something over them from the rest of the mkv so that the byte length of the file remains unchanged. This will result in a few bad frames, but at least players and demuxers should be able to demux the whole stream!...

SwissyJim
3rd October 2008, 04:25
dumb question...

in a blu ray with multiple m2tsfiles as opposed to one (forgetting Sarah Marshall) to strip out all the BS and have just the movie/soundtrack, how do you do this? Append each file into the list? there's over 100! I tried just one file and it only did that one file... how do you select ALL files?

jofarmer
3rd October 2008, 06:37
dumb question...

in a blu ray with multiple m2tsfiles as opposed to one (forgetting Sarah Marshall) to strip out all the BS and have just the movie/soundtrack, how do you do this? Append each file into the list? there's over 100! I tried just one file and it only did that one file... how do you select ALL files?

What you want to do is find out, which parts and in which order make up the movie (Usually 1-5, but never 100 - thats loads of spicials, making-ofs and the like), then take the first one and append the others in the correct order..

yonta
3rd October 2008, 06:38
Use BDInfo (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BDInfo) or eac3to (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/eac3to)(just type 'eac3to' in the folder) to find out which playlist is the main movie.
And, load the playlist(.mpls) in tsMuxeR.

SwissyJim
3rd October 2008, 19:10
thanks... BDinfo did it for me. found the playlist by time length, opened that list in TSmuxerGUI and it added all needed files (ver 1.8.8)

:thanks:

Staz
4th October 2008, 23:20
I am attempting to use tsmuxer to convert mkv to m2ts. It usually works great but recently came across a file that was giving me problems. It cannot detect the stream type of the audio track.

$ wine tsMuxeR.exe audio.ac3
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.8(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Can't detect stream type

The following is a snippet from 'mkvinfo video.mkv':


| + Track number: 1
| + Track UID: 3195133940
| + Track type: audio
| + Enabled: 1
| + Default flag: 1
| + Forced flag: 0
| + Lacing flag: 1
| + MinCache: 0
| + Timecode scale: 1.000000
| + Max BlockAddition ID: 0
| + Codec ID: A_AC3
| + Codec decode all: 1
| + Default duration: 32.000ms (31.250 fps for a video track)
| + Language: und
| + Audio track
| + Sampling frequency: 48000.000000
| + Channels: 6


$ mediainfo audio.ac3
General
Complete name : audio.ac3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
File size : 115 MiB
Duration : 42mn 2s
Overall bit rate : 384 Kbps

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz


VLC is able to play the extracted audio track just fine.

Has anyone got any ideas as to why the audio track is not being detected by tsmuxer?

Thanks!

B4tm4n
5th October 2008, 10:17
I am attempting to use tsmuxer to convert mkv to m2ts. It usually works great but recently came across a file that was giving me problems. It cannot detect the stream type of the audio track.

VLC is able to play the extracted audio track just fine.

Has anyone got any ideas as to why the audio track is not being detected by tsmuxer?

Thanks!


Use MKVtools to chop off the first second of the MKV file then try it again in tsMuxer, it should work.

prophetizer
7th October 2008, 14:48
this program works fantastic for remuxxing and streaming files on ps3 as i'm sure has been posted on this thread several times. for the first time i encountered something strange, it remuxxed the MKV no prob, plays on my PC no prob, only plays about 60seconds of the 40 minute file on my ps3 when i stream, any ideas?

hedpe
8th October 2008, 05:16
hi all, the documentation of this application for linux is a little bit poor :(
I read the google translation and attempted to do my best.

I have a m2ts and all I want to do is split it into 4gib parts. Nothing else.

can anyone provide some help? the --split-size doesn't want to work unless it is actually encoding.

snakeDVD
8th October 2008, 21:51
Hi!!

I have a problem! The conversion works GREAT but I want the get subtitles in the movir when I watch them on my PS3. How do I do that?

Would be very grateful for the help I can get!

Thanx!

malgates
8th October 2008, 22:45
Hi,

posted it already as a seperate topic but no answers.

I used RipBot264 to reencode my HDDVDs. But unfortunately it only supports 1 audiostream.

So I added a second ac3 stream (encoded it with eac3to) but neither PowerDVD nor my PS3 will recognise the second stream. But VLC will recognise and play it. I used the tsmuxer to add the stream.

did I do s.th. wrong? Maybe someone can help me.

regards

rica
9th October 2008, 00:46
Hi!!

I have a problem! The conversion works GREAT but I want the get subtitles in the movir when I watch them on my PS3. How do I do that?

Would be very grateful for the help I can get!

Thanx!

Did you select "subtitle on-off" on your PS3?

G_M_C
9th October 2008, 11:15
I've got the same idea;

Whem muxing thru tsMuxeR, you'll allways have to manually select the subtitles to display. Is it not possibe to mux it in a way that the first subtitle is allways swiched "ON" automatically, rather than having to switch it on myself ?

prophetizer
9th October 2008, 13:38
i notice sometimes when u remux an MKV to stream on PS3, that when it only plays like the first 30-60 seconds the PS3 is reporting that the video size is really small in comparison to what it really is on the PC. for instance, an MKV i remuxxed the other day, was 1.2GB on the PC, played fine on PC, but ps3 says it's only 11MB

odin24
9th October 2008, 22:33
Does tsMuxeR support chapter names (text and numerical values)?

EDIT: Nevermind, this doesn't work for the PS3.

kaid
10th October 2008, 19:32
Please, please, please, roman, listen to our pleads: The BD muxing in Linux DOES NOT WORK! It quits with "Can't create file /muxdir/BDMV/Stream/000001.m2ts" Since STREAM is in caps, it's obvious case sensitivity is the reason it won't work. It's just a simple change of strings, please fix it! I need this to work because I am planning to write a tutorial how to do make your own AVCHDs in Linux! ;-)

Edit: I was now able to work around the bug by creating the /Stream directory manually (see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141803)), but output seems b0rked, the PS3 tells me "illegal disc format" when I try to play it... So it seems to be more than just case-sensitivity!

kaid
10th October 2008, 22:57
Hi!!

I have a problem! The conversion works GREAT but I want the get subtitles in the movir when I watch them on my PS3. How do I do that?

Would be very grateful for the help I can get!

Thanx!

You can't. Subtitles aren't supported in the XMB (let's just feel lucky we have AC3, and that's only due to the cameras actually recording in AC3! ;-). For subtitles you need to mux to BD/AVCHD (which also supports DTS and multiple audio, hello malgates!) which is played either from a FAT32 device or optical disc, and for this to work the video-size and FPS need to be within certain limits. e.g. video needs to be exactly 1280x720 or 1920x1080, and 25fps isn't supported...
So if your stuff is cropped, you're shit outta luck!

kaid
10th October 2008, 23:00
I've got the same idea;

Whem muxing thru tsMuxeR, you'll allways have to manually select the subtitles to display. Is it not possibe to mux it in a way that the first subtitle is allways swiched "ON" automatically, rather than having to switch it on myself ?

I'll just assume you're talking about AVCHD now! ;-)
Yes, this should be possible (with AVCHD!).. once we find out more about the clipinf and mpls files! ;-) I have the tsremux source here, let's see what I can gather from that...

kaid
10th October 2008, 23:07
hi all, the documentation of this application for linux is a little bit poor :(
I read the google translation and attempted to do my best.

I have a m2ts and all I want to do is split it into 4gib parts. Nothing else.

can anyone provide some help? the --split-size doesn't want to work unless it is actually encoding.

encoding? since when does tsmuxer have an avc encoder built in? Are you sure you're not talking about mkv2vob?
anyhow, split-size works for me, although i never tried this in the Linux-version... which has b0rked BD/AVCHD muxing anyway!

My 2 cents: don't bother with splitting for FAT32, it's just ugly. Keep it in one file and stream it via uPnP/DLNA! If you get a bigger internal HD for your PS3 you can also copy them over like this, just press Triangle in your uPnP-server! ;-)

It's about time Sony added NTFS support.. My guess is that the large majority of external drives meanwhile are NTFS formatted.. Oh, and ext3 and hfs would be cool, too! ;-D

malgates
11th October 2008, 10:14
Hi,

posted it already as a seperate topic but no answers.

I used RipBot264 to reencode my HDDVDs. But unfortunately it only supports 1 audiostream.

So I added a second ac3 stream (encoded it with eac3to) but neither PowerDVD nor my PS3 will recognise the second stream. But VLC will recognise and play it. I used the tsmuxer to add the stream.

did I do s.th. wrong? Maybe someone can help me.

regards

Has noone had this problem before?

ixy
11th October 2008, 10:34
Hi,

I try tsMuxeR to change my BluRays and put to them new subtitles. tsMuxeR do it great but...

when I put remuxed file back to BluRay structure and try make BD-RE backup everything is good (UDF 2.5) and I have two results:

1. Files whithout menus are playing great both on PowerDVD and PS3 (with new subtitles).

2. File with menus are playing great with PowerDVD (with new subtitles) but on PS3 I play all menus and untouched files but edited one has "black screen" result (I only can return to top menu).

Any ideas???

kaid
11th October 2008, 12:39
Has noone had this problem before?

I did answer your question above, please read more carefully! XMB = only one audiotrack

kaid
11th October 2008, 12:48
Hi,

2. File with menus are playing great with PowerDVD (with new subtitles) but on PS3 I play all menus and untouched files but edited one has "black screen" result (I only can return to top menu).

Any ideas???

Most likely you have encoded the menu with 25fps and you have a monitor which does not support that (like mine!)...

I have yet to figure out if this is true for any HDCP monitor or just mine, but I get a black screen in AVCHDs with anything that has 25 or 50 fps!
Works fine on my friend's beamer though, but he uses component output, so maybe that's why...

All these questions have been asked countless times before... The problem is that all the information about PS3 and H.264 replay is out there, it's just scattered all over the net! Someone needs to write a coherent FAQ and make a sticky. I would volunteer to do this if people think that's a good idea...

Deckard2019
12th October 2008, 11:15
Is there a way to set a default subtitle track to be displayed in the final created BluRay ?
With PS3 I must activate subtitle track manually each time. Thank you.

shon3i
12th October 2008, 16:21
I have a problem, but I'm not sure whether the SmartLabs TSMuxeR guilty or Elecard Buffer analyzer?

H264 Stream produced by x264 rev 999 raw h264

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9602/origfm5.jpghttp://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6407/reportozx1.jpg

H264 Stream after muxing with SmartLabs TSMuxeR also demuxed with TSMuxeR, but the same is with eac3to.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/10/demuxediv6.jpghttp://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1913/reportdmn3.jpg

Why?

kaid
12th October 2008, 16:43
Shameless plug: If you use Linux/MacOS X and want to mux AVCHD/BD (TsMuxer/Linux is broken for this!), see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141855).

B4tm4n
12th October 2008, 18:08
Shameless plug: If you use Linux/MacOS X and want to mux AVCHD/BD (TsMuxer/Linux is broken for this!), see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141855).

I use TsMuxer under OS X daily with no problems.
You just run it under wine (Crossover), I think it would work with Linux aswell.

kaid
12th October 2008, 19:25
I use TsMuxer under OS X daily with no problems.
You just run it under wine (Crossover), I think it would work with Linux aswell.

Yeah, in fucking emulation.. Who needs a Mac- or Linux-solution when we can emulate Windows, right? ;-) Hooray, people can just go on supporting Windows only and everyone's happy!

Sorry, but I don't roll that way... Prolly because I've been using Macs since before Intel...

EPiPH0NE
12th October 2008, 19:29
Hooray, people can just go on supporting Windows only and everyone's happy!



Yup, I'm a PC :D

kaid
12th October 2008, 20:07
Yup, I'm a PC :D

Hehe, yeah, I have to cover my eyes in shame when i see Apple's braindead stupid fucking ads, the ones that *only* get Maczealots jeering while the PC crowd (which is btw the official target group! 8) just feels offended and thinks "this is dumb!".. The one sentence I always think of when seeing these is "DON'T MENTION THE GAMES!", kinda like the English are told "Don't mention the war!" when they talk to Germans! ;-D

binky
13th October 2008, 03:50
I'm very impressed with the speed of tsMuxer when joining .mt2ts files. It takes 2 hrs 40 secs using Nero 8 to combine 30 files totaling 20 minutes of footage, while tsMuxer did this in 1 min 30 sec. Unfortunately it has a fatal flaw that will prevent me from using it. The audio and video become increasingly out of sync the longer the video runs. I tried using several versions of the tool including 1.8.8b with the same result. I also tried joining several different files with the same result. The .m2ts files are taken from a Canon Vixia HF100. Any ideas as to when this bug will get fixed?

Thanks

G_M_C
13th October 2008, 07:48
Yup, I'm a PC :D

Just a tip: I'd remove your signature if I were you; I refers to, or at least gives the idea of referring to, less-than-legal MKV downloads ;)

EPiPH0NE
13th October 2008, 07:56
Just a tip: I'd remove your signature if I were you; I refers to, or at least gives the idea of referring to, less-than-legal MKV downloads ;)

LOL.........These are NOT MKV DL's. Nor can they be DL'ed anywhere.......It's my life imitating my art :devil:

G_M_C
13th October 2008, 07:58
LOL.........These are NOT MKV DL's. Nor can they be DL'ed anywhere.......It's my life imitating my art :devil:

That might be, but i don't want this board to be "found by Paramount's army-or-lawyers". They dont care if it is true or not ....

madshi
13th October 2008, 08:52
I'm very impressed with the speed of tsMuxer when joining .mt2ts files. It takes 2 hrs 40 secs using Nero 8 to combine 30 files totaling 20 minutes of footage, while tsMuxer did this in 1 min 30 sec. Unfortunately it has a fatal flaw that will prevent me from using it. The audio and video become increasingly out of sync the longer the video runs. I tried using several versions of the tool including 1.8.8b with the same result. I also tried joining several different files with the same result. The .m2ts files are taken from a Canon Vixia HF100. Any ideas as to when this bug will get fixed?
Try using eac3to to demux the raw video and audio streams from the original m2ts files and then mux everything back to m2ts with tsMuxeR. That should probably get rid of the audio desync problems.

GZZ
13th October 2008, 12:23
anyone know the solution to this problem in TSMuxer. After creating a bluray structure I get this error:

Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information.

The other info in the log is the follwing:

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.8(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 25
Decoding DTS stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Processed 192581 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index

I have muxed lots of movies like this, but for some reason it give me this error.

I have tried playing the files in powerdvd 8, but it freeze when trying to open the files. the M2TS file plays fine in Media player classic. Any ideas on why it gives me this error ?

It only happen when the output is bluray, if I create a M2TS file from the above video/audio it dosent complain.

The_Unknown
13th October 2008, 14:03
Hello, I have some problems with TSMuxer 1.8.4:

I have several BDs here and want to backup them using AnyDVD HD and TSMuxer.
I ripped them all to my hard drive, which worked well. Then I loaded the movie playlist from the first BD into TSMuxer and unchecked all unwanted language audio streams. Then I remuxed it back to *.m2ts. Everything worked well.

But when I make an ISO out of that it won't work. I think it's because I deleted languages which were linked in the menu, which seems to be a problem.

Am I doing something wrong here ? Has someone of you guys ripped a Blu-Ray with menu and extras and deleted some languages and it worked well ?

Help would be really great.

G_M_C
13th October 2008, 14:06
anyone know the solution to this problem in TSMuxer. After creating a bluray structure I get this error:



The other info in the log is the follwing:



I have muxed lots of movies like this, but for some reason it give me this error.

I have tried playing the files in powerdvd 8, but it freeze when trying to open the files. the M2TS file plays fine in Media player classic. Any ideas on why it gives me this error ?

It only happen when the output is bluray, if I create a M2TS file from the above video/audio it dosent complain.

The last time this happened I had to cut of 2 secs off the end. Go to the tab split&cut and enter "-2" as cut at the end.

GZZ
13th October 2008, 15:48
The last time this happened I had to cut of 2 secs off the end. Go to the tab split&cut and enter "-2" as cut at the end.


I just tried that. But even if I cut off 500 sec I still get the error, properly a bug in my video file after encoding.

kaid
13th October 2008, 16:31
Hello, I have some problems with TSMuxer 1.8.4:

I have several BDs here and want to backup them using AnyDVD HD and TSMuxer.
I ripped them all to my hard drive, which worked well. Then I loaded the movie playlist from the first BD into TSMuxer and unchecked all unwanted language audio streams. Then I remuxed it back to *.m2ts. Everything worked well.

But when I make an ISO out of that it won't work. I think it's because I deleted languages which were linked in the menu, which seems to be a problem.

Am I doing something wrong here ? Has someone of you guys ripped a Blu-Ray with menu and extras and deleted some languages and it worked well ?


Seeing how TsMuxer totally does not accept any full BD structure I kinda wonder how you even went about doing that?
You do know that .m2ts just like that can't be burned as BD or AVCHD? And that simply replacing them in the original structure will never work? Neither will BD muxing and then also replacing .mpls and .clpi files, btw!..

nwg
13th October 2008, 17:00
Seeing how TsMuxer totally does not accept any full BD structure I kinda wonder how you even went about doing that?
You do know that .m2ts just like that can't be burned as BD or AVCHD? And that simply replacing them in the original structure will never work? Neither will BD muxing and then also replacing .mpls and .clpi files, btw!..

I don't think he did that.

It sounds like he has done what I hav done. Rip the whole BD to the HD then loaded a playlist into TSmuxer and stripped unwanted audio/subs to a new m2ts file. The result is a single m2ts file or a complete new BD file structure with just that single m2ts file.

The_Unknown
13th October 2008, 17:13
I don't think he did that.

It sounds like he has done what I hav done. Rip the whole BD to the HD then loaded a playlist into TSmuxer and stripped unwanted audio/subs to a new m2ts file. The result is a single m2ts file or a complete new BD file structure with just that single m2ts file.
This is exactly what I did. But it isn't possible to keep the menu and the extras. It's only possible to build a whole new BD structure with only the m2ts file. Only editing the main movie m2ts in my existing BD structure won't bring success :(

GZZ
13th October 2008, 18:43
The last time this happened I had to cut of 2 secs off the end. Go to the tab split&cut and enter "-2" as cut at the end.

Second try. I found out that if I split the output into 2 or 4 GB files when creating a Bluray structure using TSMuxer 1.8.8b dosent give me this error:
Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information.

and the movie plays fine in Powerdvd.

Anyone know the reason why splitting the bluray will result in a working bluray. Is this a bug in TSMuxer ?

shon3i
13th October 2008, 23:48
TSMuxer 1.8.8b dosent give me this error: Where you find TSMuxer 1.8.8b ?

EDIT: I found http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b).zip

rack04
13th October 2008, 23:50
I'm trying to create a simple bat file to mux h264 and AC3 to blu-ray disc output.

Here is what I have:


@SET TSMUXER_PATH=C:\Program Files\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR.exe
@SET VIDEO_INPUT=C:\Temp\Video.h264
@SET AUDIO_INPUT=C:\Temp\Audio.ac3
"%TSMUXER_PATH%" MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500 V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "%VIDEO_INPUT%", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS A_AC3, "%AUDIO_INPUT%", lang=eng

binky
14th October 2008, 02:14
Try using eac3to to demux the raw video and audio streams from the original m2ts files and then mux everything back to m2ts with tsMuxeR. That should probably get rid of the audio desync problems.

Can you give the command line to use for this? It isn't clear what I need to do by reading the documentation for eac3to. Do I need any other software? I'm also curious as to why I need to do this. Shouldn't tsMuxer be able join files without problems?

Thanks.

rebkell
14th October 2008, 02:39
If I use eac3to to extract an .h264 file and an ac3 file, would it work the same as extracting to an mkv, as far as fixing the gaps and overlaps?

lennyd19
14th October 2008, 06:01
Hello Ihave been encodeing all my dvd's to hdd for sometime and had no probloms. I just steped into to the world of blu ray. I am useingg the tsmuxer to put on my hdd and use in my tvix. I have tried four times to mux the files tried 2 different movies and each time About half way through it says there is no disk in the drive. I know it is something i am over looking. So A little help and guidence would be apperciated. Thanks!

madshi
14th October 2008, 08:29
Can you give the command line to use for this? It isn't clear what I need to do by reading the documentation for eac3to. Do I need any other software? I'm also curious as to why I need to do this. Shouldn't tsMuxer be able join files without problems?
There are different ways to use eac3to. If you have a full Blu-Ray disc you can use "eac3to BluRayDiscPath" to get a list of tracks. Then you can demux all tracks of a specific title you're interested in, e.g. "eac3to BluRayDiscPath 1) -demux".

tsMuxeR can join files just fine, and from what I've heard they play fine, too. However, multiple joined m2ts files are a bit problematic because the audio overlaps. If the media player is clever enough, it can work around the issue. In your case that doesn't seem to be the case. eac3to removes the audio overlaps so that you don't depend on the media player working correctly...

If I use eac3to to extract an .h264 file and an ac3 file, would it work the same as extracting to an mkv, as far as fixing the gaps and overlaps?
Yes, for audio. No, for video. But overlaps are normally only in the audio tracks with Blu-Ray discs. So no problem...

hedpe
15th October 2008, 08:45
what I am trying to is split a m2ts file, with no luck so far:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapter=5 --split-chapters=5 --split-size=4GB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC,/mnt/iso/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_AC3,/mnt/iso/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts,track=4352


but I get the error:

$ /usr/local/bin/tsMuxeR /tmp/test.blah outs
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.7.3(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
Can't create file outs/BDMV/Stream/00001.m2ts


I am definitely not out of disk space and it has access to that directory. Additionally, it creates the blu-ray directory structure in 'outs'

f@chance
15th October 2008, 14:33
TSMuxer 1.8.8b was flagged by zone alarm as a risk in the spyware scan. Anyone else had similar experience?

kurt
15th October 2008, 16:00
TSMuxer 1.8.8b was flagged by zone alarm as a risk in the spyware scan. Anyone else had similar experience?
nope...

GreenOnyx
15th October 2008, 17:01
Is there any word on when the TrueHD bug will be fixed? It seems like it should be pretty high priority, but I don't see it mentioned anywhere and it wasn't addressed in the latest beta.

gav1577
15th October 2008, 22:18
TSMuxer 1.8.8b was flagged by zone alarm as a risk in the spyware scan. Anyone else had similar experience?

Its a false positive

GZZ
15th October 2008, 22:55
Anyone know why TSmuxer detect my stream as 1920:1084p after I have reencoded it ??? Anyway to correct this ??

If I load the *.264 file in MediaInfo, DGAVCIndex or any other program it says the resolution is 1920:1080p. I have even tried burn it on a DVD-RW and whats it on my PS3 and it detect it fine as 1080p/24 fps.

The only problem I have seen is that powerdvd dont show my subtitles, but they works fine on my PS3... It all started after I changed my x264 script which is like this (today), but I cant see any reason why that should have anything to do with it, because it still says 1920x1080 when encoding..


1Pass:
"d:\x264.exe" "%IN_TITLE%.AVS" --bitrate %IN_BITRATE% --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 14745 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --filter 0,0 --bframes 3 --direct auto --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --subme 2 --analyse none --me dia --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "stats1.log" --pass 1 --output NUL

2 Pass:
"d:\x264.exe" "%IN_TITLE%.AVS" --bitrate %IN_BITRATE% --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 14745 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --subme 7 --mixed-refs --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 0.8:0.8 --aq-strength 0.8 --me umh --merange 24 --scenecut 32 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "stats1.log" --pass 2 --output "%IN_TITLE%.264"

I suspect the reason why the subtitles isnt working in powerdvd is because tsmuxer mux them as 1920:1084p.

Anyone tried this because and know why ?

kaid
16th October 2008, 03:21
what I am trying to is split a m2ts file, with no luck so far:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapter=5 --split-chapters=5 --split-size=4GB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC,/mnt/iso/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_AC3,/mnt/iso/BDMV/STREAM/00001.m2ts,track=4352


but I get the error:

$ /usr/local/bin/tsMuxeR /tmp/test.blah outs
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.7.3(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
Can't create file outs/BDMV/Stream/00001.m2ts


I am definitely not out of disk space and it has access to that directory. Additionally, it creates the blu-ray directory structure in 'outs'

Don't worry, you're not doing anything wrong, TsMuxer/Linux is b0rked for BD/AVCHD muxing! This first error ist just due to case-sensitivity, but even if you work around it it still won't work. More about it here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141803), and for a solution (not using TsMuxer) see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141855).

But if you're only trying to split a file, you don't need the --blu-ray muxoption anyway, why not leave it out and mux plain old .m2ts (just add .m2ts to "outs" in your case!)?

hdpete
16th October 2008, 07:16
Is there any word on when the TrueHD bug will be fixed? It seems like it should be pretty high priority, but I don't see it mentioned anywhere and it wasn't addressed in the latest beta.

I agree, it would be my highest priority at the moment. TsMuxer is a great program, not being able to handle TrueHD muxing is it's only downfall as far as I'm concerned.

hedpe
16th October 2008, 08:02
Don't worry, you're not doing anything wrong, TsMuxer/Linux is b0rked for BD/AVCHD muxing! This first error ist just due to case-sensitivity, but even if you work around it it still won't work. More about it here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141803), and for a solution (not using TsMuxer) see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141855).

But if you're only trying to split a file, you don't need the --blu-ray muxoption anyway, why not leave it out and mux plain old .m2ts (just add .m2ts to "outs" in your case!)?

Thanks for all of your contributions digging in to things with the Linux version! It's a pain to be only semi-supported.

I was unaware i could remove the --blu-ray and use outs.m2ts. When I try this, however, it seems to dump 3.8GB and then stop, never generating my second split file:

$ tsMuxeR /tmp/blah.meta outs.m2ts
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.7.3(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
100.0% complete
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
100.0% complete
Can't determine size for file outs.split.1.m2ts


any ideas here?

kaid
16th October 2008, 12:17
Thanks for all of your contributions digging in to things with the Linux version! It's a pain to be only semi-supported.

I was unaware i could remove the --blu-ray and use outs.m2ts. When I try this, however, it seems to dump 3.8GB and then stop, never generating my second split file:

$ tsMuxeR /tmp/blah.meta outs.m2ts
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.7.3(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
100.0% complete
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
100.0% complete
Can't determine size for file outs.split.1.m2ts


any ideas here?

Hmmm.. I gotta admit the only time I ever split anything with tsmuxer was for my menugenerator script (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141173)... I don't do FAT32, i keep the fullsized file and copy it over to the PS3 (via DLNA/uPNP, but download from a local HTTP- or FTP-server also works!), which had a 320GB fitted..

You sure there's enough space on the drive? Try leaving out the --split-chapter and --auto-chapter options, you don't need these for .m2ts since chapters aren't supported in .m2ts (hooray for scene selection in the new PS3 firmware btw! ;-), maybe that fixes it!

Could just be another bug in the Linux-version, dunno.. As a workaround, you could always mux a single .m2ts and then do the splitting with tsremux by (ab)using the crop feature! But that's rather painful to do I guess, setting the splits manually...

jtheripper
16th October 2008, 19:37
I agree, it would be my highest priority at the moment. TsMuxer is a great program, not being able to handle TrueHD muxing is it's only downfall as far as I'm concerned.

I also agree. I hope he fixes the truHD bug soon as many new blurays are coming with that and tsremux cant mux multiple streams. Also the price of BD-R are coming down so it is becoming feasible to use those instead of dvd+r dl

ACrowley
18th October 2008, 15:30
Ive a Problem.

I have a lot of Remuxes in MKV from HDDVD VC1. The Pulldown from VC1 was removed with eac3to.
But TSmuxer tells me VC1 29.97fps with Pulldown ?

When i try to remux these MKVs to m2ts with TSmuxer i get these Errors:
1. With Remove Pulldown Option :

Output:
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.8(b) http://www.smlabs.net
VC-1 manual setted fps not equal stream fps. Change VC-1 fps from 29.97 to 23.976
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 23.976
-----------------------------------------------

Errors:

Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 100ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 200ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 400ms.



-----------------
without Remove Pulldown

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: E:\HD Movies\The.Bourne.Ultimatum.HDDVD.Remux.1080p.VC1.AC3.5.1.DL.mkv

Same Result when i set the Video manually to 23.976fps

My Target is to remux the VC1 into a compliant m2ts Stream...


EDIT:
I ask Madshi about this Problem. He Told me that earlier eac3to Version wasnt able to fully remove the Pulldown Flags. Theres where still Rests from the Flag. And Tsmuxer cant remux these VC1 Streams.
Removing Pulldown with latest eac3to results in a 100% 23.976 10890p VC1 File. Tsmuxer detects it as 1080p 23.976

EDIT2:
I found a Way to fix/completly remove the remaining Pulldown Flags out of these bad VC1 Streams

1 Demux VC1 from mkv via Graphedit
-Filesource(async) - ArcsoftMKvSplitter - Dump

2. Remove pulldown with latest eac3to

3. Remux to whatever

kurt
18th October 2008, 15:37
@ acrowly:

maybe try to etract the vc1 with mkvextract and load the elementary stream in tsmuxer...

I never had this issues in tsmuxer, but I never mux to mkv in eac3to before (while removing pulldown) as you did. I usually just extract the video with eac3to....

rica
18th October 2008, 16:42
@ acrowly:

maybe try to etract the vc1 with mkvextract and load the elementary stream in tsmuxer...

I never had this issues in tsmuxer, but I never mux to mkv in eac3to before (while removing pulldown) as you did. I usually just extract the video with eac3to....

I agree; vc1mkvs are always problematic.

Extract vc1 [you can also use GraphStudio for extracting vc1:
Haali splitter > Dump (*.vc1) ]

What i'd suggest remux it into a TS container with TSMuxer.(don't remove pulldown)
Then extract vc1 again with eac3to (newest version); this will remove pulldown.

Butterfly666
19th October 2008, 15:19
2/3sec. of the movie is gone when I use the split option.
Is there a fix for the split option when muxing to bluray?

Bosko
19th October 2008, 16:27
Hi,

Just a couple quick questions (no offense meant with any of these, just playing it safe!). Thanks!

1. Are all the versions of txMuxeR 100% spyware (or anything "bad") free? Does the program conflict with anything else?

2. If version 1.8.8 beta is the newest version, why is 1.8.4 listed on the official website as the newest version here?
http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

SmartLabs tsMuxeR is a freeware.
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR licence agreement - view
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR for Windows - download (Links to: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip)
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR for Linux (console only) - download
* Release notes - view

3. Which version is better/safer to use?

4. Why is the newest version getting flagged as a virus, as stated on this thread?

5. Is this the best program to allow .mkv files to play on the PS3?

6. Does the program "call home" or try to connect to the internet for any reason?

Thanks for the help! And sorry again for the goofy questions, but I always play it safe before installing new software. This looks great though for PS3 stuff!

odin24
19th October 2008, 16:45
Hi,

Just a couple quick questions (no offense meant with any of these, just playing it safe!). Thanks!

1. Are all the versions of txMuxeR 100% spyware (or anything "bad") free? Does the program conflict with anything else?Does not conflict with anything. I use AVG, no virus or spyware warnings.

2. If version 1.8.8 beta is the newest version, why is 1.8.4 listed on the official website as the newest version here?
http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

SmartLabs tsMuxeR is a freeware.
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR licence agreement - view
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR for Windows - download (Links to: http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip)
* SmartLabs tsMuxeR for Linux (console only) - download
* Release notes - viewMaybe 1.8.4 was the last final version. I have no issues with 1.8.8.

3. Which version is better/safer to use?No issues with either, I've been using 1.8.8 since it's release, I use it almost everyday.

4. Why is the newest version getting flagged as a virus, as stated on this thread? Maybe it is the virus software that particular person is using. I can assure you it was a false positive, no issues on my PC.

5. Is this the best program to allow .mkv files to play on the PS3? In my opinion, yes. Unless the file is not compatible at all, which is not uncommon... if so your file would need recoding.

6. Does the program "call home" or try to connect to the internet for any reason? No. Just to be safe you could block it from accessing the internet through Window firewall.

Thanks for the help! And sorry again for the goofy questions, but I always play it safe before installing new software. This looks great though for PS3 stuff!


See my comments above.

kaid
19th October 2008, 19:32
Antivirus software sometimes acts incredibly stupid and offensive in giving totally false alarms. E.g. there's a packer program (it's like ZIP, only much smaller and for executables!) called "kkrunchy" that has been made by guys making 64k Intros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64k_intro), because they need every byte they can save. Now, since coders of malware also use this packing program (and possibly Tsmuxer, too?) because they too try to keep their stuff as small as possible, stupidass virus software screams "malware!!!" for every program that uses it, even the 64k Intros it was originally made for! That's exactly as stupid as saying ZIP is malware, because Virii *can* come in a ZIP!

Wikipedia even has some information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_compression) on this issue:

Also, some older virus scanners simply report all compressed executables as viruses because the decompressor stubs share some characteristics with those. Most modern virus scanners can unpack several different executable compression layers to check the actual executable inside, but some popular anti-virus and anti-malware scanners have had troubles with false alarms on compressed executables.

Bosko
19th October 2008, 19:36
See my comments above.

Thanks for the reply!

More specifically, for hidef tv shows in .mkv format, converting them with tsMuxeR will provide a better picture quality that using mkv2vob, is that correct? (Better was probably too generic a term to use when I asked... :) )

Do you know what the changes were from tsMuxeR 1.8.4 to 1.8.8?

Thanks again!

odin24
19th October 2008, 20:51
Thanks for the reply!

More specifically, for hidef tv shows in .mkv format, converting them with tsMuxeR will provide a better picture quality that using mkv2vob, is that correct? (Better was probably too generic a term to use when I asked... :) )

Do you know what the changes were from tsMuxeR 1.8.4 to 1.8.8?

Thanks again!


It is safe to assume that tsMuxeR will yield better results over using mkv2vob because tsMuxeR just muxes, no trascoding... whereas I believe mkv2vob does just that, trascodes to vob.

As for changes in versions I am not sure.

kaid
20th October 2008, 12:40
It is safe to assume that tsMuxeR will yield better results over using mkv2vob because tsMuxeR just muxes, no trascoding... whereas I believe mkv2vob does just that, trascodes to vob.

As for changes in versions I am not sure.

AFAIK mkv2vob also does remuxing wherever possible, it only does transcoding if the target is incompatible with the source.Didn't mkv2vob actually include TsMuxer (or was it TsRemux?)?

nwg
20th October 2008, 16:56
Is there any reason why a surcode created DTS file doesn't get detected in TSMuxer?

jj666
20th October 2008, 20:58
What source are you encoding the DTS from? I don't have problems with Surcode here (usually used via EAC3TO).

Cheers,

-jj-

jj666
20th October 2008, 20:59
6. Does the program "call home" or try to connect to the internet for any reason?

Only if you are remuxing illegal stuff with it ;-)

Tongue firmly in cheek of course.

-jj-

odin24
20th October 2008, 21:10
Is there any reason why a surcode created DTS file doesn't get detected in TSMuxer?

You need to remove zero padding first. Just run it through eac3to again, just change the name.

eac3to audio.dts fixed_audio.dts

nwg
20th October 2008, 22:53
That worked thank you.

Audionut
21st October 2008, 02:44
4. Why is the newest version getting flagged as a virus, as stated on this thread?

Either A-Squared is really good or really shite. You pick.

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LonelyWolf
21st October 2008, 11:35
Hi to all and excuse my poor english.
I've a question about tsmuxer:
I'm using it to remux a mkv (video h264 high profile@5.1 and ac3 audio) to ts or m2ts and i've noticed something strange.
In my player (it's an HDD box player) the time starts from 9'30" to 10'00" but the movie is shown from the beginning.
I don't know what's the problem, this occours either muxing to ts, m2ts or blu ray; with or without insert sps/time.
Can't FF or FR.
The movie plays fine.

Using tsremux on the same original mkv the problem doesn't exists, and i still can FF or FR.
The movie plays fine.

version used 1.8.4 and 1.8.8


thanks

Edit:
Just to clarify:
mkv movie are samples, i'm testing my fullHD TV, and the hdd box player.
The player has Sigma Designs EM8623L chipset, it decode directly not streaming.

jj666
21st October 2008, 12:17
You shouldn't use 5.1 profile in any Sigma chipset player as these are only certified to level 4.1 H264, you get all sorts of issues otherwise. I'm assuming this is some re-encoded stuff you've downloaded - I've never known such a profile be used elsewhere. If you encoded this yourself, don't use such a profile next time, if you downloaded it, firstly it shouldn't be discussed here and secondly you can never be sure how flawed the encode is.

-jj-

frenchglen
21st October 2008, 12:57
Is 88200 and 44200 sample rate LPCM input going to be supported some time?
This program is fantastic.

LonelyWolf
21st October 2008, 13:42
You shouldn't use 5.1 profile in any Sigma chipset player as these are only certified to level 4.1 H264, you get all sorts of issues otherwise. I'm assuming this is some re-encoded stuff you've downloaded - I've never known such a profile be used elsewhere.
If you encoded this yourself, don't use such a profile next time, if you downloaded it, firstly it shouldn't be discussed here and secondly you can never be sure how flawed the encode is.

-jj-

5.1 works everytime, 4.1 sometimes doesn't works (i can't see the video track), i don't know why (used h264info/tsmuxer to change level).

Edit again:
After searching more info:
I think MPEG-4.2 ASP@L5 means that the chipset support 5 high level?

I'm newbie with this codec.
I'm not talking about level/profile in this post, i'm wondering why using tsmuxer the timer starts from 9'30" (the movie starts from beginnin) and why not using tsremux.

I wrote about level/profile/chipset just to explain what i'm using.

jj666
21st October 2008, 14:06
In my experience with both Tvix 5100 (Sigma 8623) and IstarHD (Sigma 8635), 4.1 level will work fine, 5.1 level will usually not work. If the file has been encoded with 5.1 and a large amount of reference frames, changing to 4.1 level will not help, the best you will get is a pixelated image (you can use MEDIAINFO or similar to check such encode/codec information).

I have no issues with H264 and TSMUXER from either TV captures (via Dreambox), or Blu-ray disks (via Anydvd HD). There are some differences between the available muxers (for instance TSMUXER won't remux TrueHD properly). Once you start to re-encode things, you also introduce other compatibility issues which is what you are seeing, combined with amateur/idiocy encoding at 5.1 level.

As mentioned, if you're not encoding the stuff yourself, you have to live with poorer quality and things not working as expected.

-jj-

LonelyWolf
21st October 2008, 15:04
Please don't talk about quality, it's not the matter now.

What I'm talking about isn't encoding, just muxing with tsmuxer and tsremux.

Difference playing the clip muxed with tsmuxer starts at 9.30 muxed with tsremux starts at 0.0, both clips are shown from the beginning.

That's independend from how is encoded the video stream.

frank
21st October 2008, 17:15
That's independend from how is encoded the video stream. Oh no, you have a lot to learn.
Blu-rays and others are certified for level 4.1!! No BD or HD disks are encoded with 5.1. When you feed a real (not patched) 5.1 level encoded stream to a SA player then you get problems.
And you cannot simply change the level by patching the stream. You have to reencode. tsMuxeR has problems with 5.1 streams because nobody has really tested. And 5.1 is not necessary.
jj666 has fully right.

cwm9
21st October 2008, 22:55
I keep seeing references to how "true-hd doesn't work with tsMuxer," but I don't seem to have any problem with it. When I rip just the video and only the True-HD track as a as a blue ray disk, convert to a .iso, mount it with DaemonTools, and play it in PowerDVD, it works just fine. PowerDVD even says it is playing a "Audio: Dolby TrueHD 5.1 xxxxKbps" stream. 1500KBps is about typical.

Is PowerDVD lying? Is it only playing the AC3 core? Has the true-hd problem been fixed, or is it only a problem with certain discs or... ?

odin24
21st October 2008, 23:04
I keep seeing references to how "true-hd doesn't work with tsMuxer," but I don't seem to have any problem with it. When I rip just the video and only the True-HD track to a .iso, mount it with DaemonTools, and play it in PowerDVD, it works just fine.

Has the true-hd problem been fixed, or is it only a problem with certain discs or... ?

The issue is TrueHD playback on a PS3 or standalone (after tsMuxeR).

LonelyWolf
22nd October 2008, 07:54
Ok, tsmuxer can't mux correctly h264 stream with 5.1 level, tsremux doesn't.

tsmuxer adds from 9'.30" to 10' to the clip "time".

So the clip's duration depend on how it's muxed?

:confused:

Oh no, you have a lot to learn.
It's true and i know! :D

But if the problem is the video track 5.1 on my standalone, why muxing with tsremux goes fine and with tsmuxer doesn't? The track is the same in both mux cases.
:confused:

jj666
22nd October 2008, 14:56
If you are playing back on a standalone player, the best thing to do is confine any 5.1 encoded files to processing from the recycle bin. Having to re-encode an already re-encoded HD file totally defeats the idea of HD feeds being better quality. You can check the number of reference frames with MEDIAINFO, if it is 4 or below for 1080p, or 8 or below for 720p, it may be possible to change the level to 4.1 with H264INFO.

I can tell you with 100% confidence that TSMUXER does not have issues with H264 per se based on my own personal remuxing of hundred of personal files. I can also tell you I've never seen such an issue with timing with either the small number of re-encodes I do, or with remuxes direct from original source.

Ask your torrent site or whatever to post the codec information before downloading in future and avoid 5.1 encodes like the plague ;-) It's not possible to make a bug report about something you didn't encode yourself as it's not reproducable easily.

-jj-

Bosko
23rd October 2008, 01:51
The issue is TrueHD playback on a PS3 or standalone (after tsMuxeR).

So if you have an .mkv file of a tv show that's "HD" and you use this program to make it so it can be played on a PS3, it won't be in HD? So will it just be the same as the regular .avi file version of the same show?

Thanks!

odin24
23rd October 2008, 02:29
So if you have an .mkv file of a tv show that's "HD" and you use this program to make it so it can be played on a PS3, it won't be in HD? So will it just be the same as the regular .avi file version of the same show?

Thanks!

I was refering to Dolby TrueHD (on Blu-rays), you'll still get the "HD" if you use this to convert TV show mkv's.

asarian
24th October 2008, 11:32
First off, I think tsMuxeR is a fantastic programme! I use it all the time. :) Lately though I learnt that an age-old issue, which I heretofore attributed to something else, may in fact be caused by tsMuxer, after all. Namely, when streaming an (H264/AVC) .m2ts file (made with tsMuxeR) to my PS3, I can't properly use the 'goto' function. When I say, for instance, "Go to time-index 01:25:54," then, 9 out of 10 times, the request is either simply ignored, or the movie just pauses indefinately.

Now, I recently heard that VOB files, created by mkv2vob, do not have this problem! So, that begs the question: what is causing tsMuxeR to not get it right? Or, more importantly, what, if anything, can be done to fix this? I reckon if mkv2vob can manage, tsMuxeR should be able to do so as well, right?

Jeff Flowerday
24th October 2008, 15:38
First off, I think tsMuxeR is a fantastic programme! I use it all the time. :) Lately though I learnt that an age-old issue, which I heretofore attributed to something else, may in fact be caused by tsMuxer, after all. Namely, when streaming an (H264/AVC) .m2ts file (made with tsMuxeR) to my PS3, I can't properly use the 'goto' function. When I say, for instance, "Go to time-index 01:25:54," then, 9 out of 10 times, the request is either simply ignored, or the movie just pauses indefinately.

Now, I recently heard that VOB files, created by mkv2vob, do not have this problem! So, that begs the question: what is causing tsMuxeR to not get it right? Or, more importantly, what, if anything, can be done to fix this? I reckon if mkv2vob can manage, tsMuxeR should be able to do so as well, right?

I think the problem may be the PS3 not tsmuxer. The goto function on my Popcorn works fine with H264 m2ts files created by tsmuxer.

asarian
24th October 2008, 17:21
I think the problem may be the PS3 not tsmuxer. The goto function on my Popcorn works fine with H264 m2ts files created by tsmuxer.

The odd thing is, sometimes it does it work, and it jumps directly to the requested index. Could this be key-frame related somehow? I just don't get why sometimes I get a hit, and often a miss.

ultratoto14
24th October 2008, 18:29
Is your problem occurring during streaming or even if the file is on the PS3 hard drive ?

asarian
24th October 2008, 19:39
Is your problem occurring during streaming or even if the file is on the PS3 hard drive ?

Just streaming.

ultratoto14
24th October 2008, 22:45
It seems to be a problem of Tversity i guess. Someone tell us some time ago a tip : when remuxing mkv or m2ts to ts/m2ts with tsMuxer, check the fps change box on h264 stream and put the real fps of the stream. This forces tsMuxer to write fps in each place it must be and this can help with ffw/rewind during streaming. Test it and let me now.

asarian
24th October 2008, 23:19
It seems to be a problem of Tversity i guess. Someone tell us some time ago a tip : when remuxing mkv or m2ts to ts/m2ts with tsMuxer, check the fps change box on h264 stream and put the real fps of the stream. This forces tsMuxer to write fps in each place it must be and this can help with ffw/rewind during streaming. Test it and let me now.

I'm using Twonky, but I'm guessing the same principle applies as with Tversity. I'll try it out and let you know. Thanks!

Cela
25th October 2008, 15:45
Dear tsMuxeR experts,

I am very happy having found tsMuxeR.
Congratulations to its author for this excellent and very promising development!

It is higly efficient and easy to use. As first exercise being a tsMuxeR beginner, I managed to process a 16.804.145KB, 02:35:32 (hh:mm:ss) DVB-S2 (H264 stream, Profile: High@4.0, Resolution: 1920:1080i, Frame rate: 25) HDTV show from Astra HD channel to an AVCHD structure with 79 chapters which is playing well on PS3 (from USB disc after AVCHD_ME m2ts to MTS rename, and after burning the original tsMuxer output to AVCHD DVD and BE/BD disc) in amazing 09 min 12 sec muxing time !!! Practically in the time it takes to copy the 16.8 GB from USB-disc to internal harddisc! Unbeatable performance! :)

With my second exercise, to let tsMuxeR split the show into two parts (Part 1 and Part 2) at the intermission pause, I entered more difficult ground:
The splitting worked ok, but both parts were too big to fit on a DVD-DL each. So, I had to shorten each part.

Part 2 was easily done, merly trimming off the end credits by >Enable cutting, Start=938960 ms, End=5056 s.

Part 1 was not so easy. I wanted to keep the beginning (Part 1A) and cut out a chunck from within, keeping the rest (Part 1B). To do it was also no problem. But...

Issue 1: Audio sync after split
***********************
The problem began with >add Part 1A and >append Part 1B. tsMuxeR does the append job in lightning speed. But the audio of Part 1B is out of sync! I guess this happens because the cut was not at an IDR-frame.

Would an option in tsMuxeR "snap to nearest IDR-frame /P-frame" help, which could apply to chapter selection and splitting (cut-in, cut-out point selection) ? I think IfoEdit (my other favorite program for DVD generation) does it that way, I think.

Issue 2: Too many chapters
**********************
Again with Part 1, I found another issue. I left the Chapter input list as it was for the full show. From my experience with IfoEdit I expected tsMuxeR to only take those, in my case 24 (out of 79), chapters that fit after cutting into the resulting output stream for Part 1 and to skip chapters with time values higher than the total length of the Part 1 video clip.

Issue 3: Simple chapter selection menu(s) would be a dream !
**********************************************
3.1 Example for a simple, kind of table-of-contents like menu:
------------------------------------------
Highlights of Summer 2008 (heading)
------------------------------------------
Intro (-> chapter 1) (detail line 1)
Windsurfing at Lake Garda (-> chapter 7) (detail line 2)
Trip to Venice (-> chapter 12) (detail line 3)
...
------------------------------------------
(next menu window after 10 or 12 detail lines, max. 99 detail lines)

Input for the above example could be simple text lines like
<ch#><tab><menu text>
00 Highlights of Summer 2008 ... (heading)
01 Intro ....................... (detail line 1)
07 Windsurfing at Lake Garda
12 Trip to Venice
...
(To pep it up, tsMuxeR could allow to enter a jpg or bmp background image.)

3.2 Alternativly, is there a trick to use a small dummy clip and design a menu with another program (for example: NeroVision, Ulead DVD Movie Factory, Cyberlink PowerProducer, ...) and replace in the AVCHD data structure the .m2ts file of the dummy clip with the .m2ts files from tsMuxe R?
This alternative would enable more sophisticated menus. But I would prefer a simple, table-of-contents like menu.

I am a fairly experienced user of SD DVD authoring with IfoEdit and DVD-lab Pro after preparing the DVB-S captures with ProjectX and Mpeg2Schnitt (includig trimming, cutting and finding good values for chapters), but, as a beginner to the art of tsMuxeR and HD processing, I cannot resolve the above mentioned issues without help from tsMuxeR and HD processing experts.

So please help me with my issues!

Many thanks in advance!

Cela

P.S.
As I write these lines I get another dream:
Mpeg2Schnitt is a wonderful freeware program for trimming, cutting, finding good values for chapters the best ergonomic and userfriendly navigation through the audiovisual preview of mpeg2 SD material, among other things allowing forward/backward stepping to next I-, P- frames, etc. If it was possible to replace the mpeg2 engine by tsMuxeR's h264/avc engine, a modified Mpeg2Schnitt could become a graphic-interactive front-end for tsMuxeR. Now add the menu-engine of DVD-lab.... Perhaps an idea for new cooperations?

asarian
25th October 2008, 18:17
It seems to be a problem of Tversity i guess. Someone tell us some time ago a tip : when remuxing mkv or m2ts to ts/m2ts with tsMuxer, check the fps change box on h264 stream and put the real fps of the stream. This forces tsMuxer to write fps in each place it must be and this can help with ffw/rewind during streaming. Test it and let me now.

Wow! This actually worked! :) I can't believe it was that easily solved. Thanks very much!

ultratoto14
25th October 2008, 21:31
You're welcome !

piratburner
26th October 2008, 14:02
I have remuxed Million Dollar Baby 2004 1080p Blu-ray GER AVC DTS-HD HR 7.1 and only keep the Movie and the english DTS-HD 7.1

But it´s NO sound so cant TsMuxeR handle 7.1 sound ??

jdobbs
26th October 2008, 15:56
Not sure if this has been discussed (this is a long thread), so I thought I'd bring it up. TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

jj666
26th October 2008, 17:12
I have remuxed Million Dollar Baby 2004 1080p Blu-ray GER AVC DTS-HD HR 7.1 and only keep the Movie and the english DTS-HD 7.1

But it´s NO sound so cant TsMuxeR handle 7.1 sound ??

How are you trying to play the sound back? Have you tried downconverting to DTS and see if it works?

-jj-

GZZ
26th October 2008, 17:30
I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

How did you open it?, I have problems with some chapters, like the picture freeze for at few seconds.

yamyam
26th October 2008, 19:06
Not sure if this has been discussed (this is a long thread), so I thought I'd bring it up. TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.Unfortunatly TSmuxer is not being worked on anymore, we are aware of the bugs it has but as of yet cant fix some of them, writing a program as you mension im sure will be very much welcomed among TSmuxer users including myself, it also has a problem with trueHD

jamos
26th October 2008, 22:29
Unfortunatly TSmuxer is not being worked on anymore, we are aware of the bugs it has but as of yet cant fix some of them, writing a program as you mension im sure will be very much welcomed among TSmuxer users including myself, it also has a problem with trueHD

um it's still being worked on just saw the 1.88 version...

jamos
26th October 2008, 22:30
Not sure if this has been discussed (this is a long thread), so I thought I'd bring it up. TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

You getting this with 1.88?

jdobbs
26th October 2008, 22:37
I didn't even know there was a v1.88 -- I always look at the first post of this thread for updates...

I just went to www.smlabs.net and the latest version they have is 1.84 also...

rica
26th October 2008, 23:07
I didn't even know there was a v1.88 -- I always look at the first post of this thread for updates...

I just went to www.smlabs.net and the latest version they have is 1.84 also...

It's hidden here: :)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1188709#post1188709




_ _ _ _ _

jdobbs
27th October 2008, 01:10
You getting this with 1.88? Just tested it with v1.88 -- the problem is still there. Hopefully they'll fix it in the next release. I'll post a quick fix program in a day or so. It just needs to rebuild the tables and rewrite the CLPI. No big deal.

survivant001
27th October 2008, 02:33
if it's help. when I have problem with a movie that doesn't ff and rw.. I open the .m2ts back into tsmuxer and regenerate a new bluray structure. That work for me most of the times.

jdobbs
27th October 2008, 03:19
I don't see how rebuilding the M2TS would help -- the same timestamps will result in the same problem. Anyway, I have a solution -- I was just reporting the problem in the hope that the developers would take note...

Audioboxer
27th October 2008, 10:25
Hey guys, got a question for you.

I'm looking to stream my BD discs to my PS3. I have a LG BR player on the PC I rip with.

Planet Earth is VC-1 which seems to be tricky for the PS3.

Is there anyway I can mux the VC-1 video stream into WMV-HD (I first use AnyDVD to dump the BD disc) ?

Audio doesn't matter much, I only have a 2.0 stereo setup, so I'm happy to transcode the audio to make it work in a WMV-HD container. I don't want to transcode video however.

I know you can create AVCHD discs or something, but I'd rather not have my movies in 4GB chunks.

Thanks :thanks:

G_M_C
27th October 2008, 13:03
Hey guys, got a question for you.

I'm looking to stream my BD discs to my PS3. I have a LG BR player on the PC I rip with.

Planet Earth is VC-1 which seems to be tricky for the PS3.

Is there anyway I can mux the VC-1 video stream into WMV-HD (I first use AnyDVD to dump the BD disc) ?

Audio doesn't matter much, I only have a 2.0 stereo setup, so I'm happy to transcode the audio to make it work in a WMV-HD container. I don't want to transcode video however.

I know you can create AVCHD discs or something, but I'd rather not have my movies in 4GB chunks.

Thanks :thanks:

Lemme put 1 question to you ...

How do you suppose that putting your question in the tsMuxeR tread will help ?

Audioboxer
27th October 2008, 13:54
Lemme put 1 question to you ...

How do you suppose that putting your question in the tsMuxeR tread will help ?

Because I assumed I have to use TSMuxer with the uncompressed BR first of all.

My LG drive is coming tomorrow, this will be the first time I've tried ripping a BR disc. Only played them on the PS3 till now.

http://www.blu-raystats.com/ told me Planet Earth is VC-1, and trying to clue myself up online about ripping BR discs told me VC-1 can be an issue for the PS3.

If I'm in the wrong place, sorry, but everyone seems to use TSMuxer for their BR discs after ripping.

Cela
27th October 2008, 18:09
...All these questions have been asked countless times before... The problem is that all the information about PS3 and H.264 replay is out there, it's just scattered all over the net! Someone needs to write a coherent FAQ and make a sticky. I would volunteer to do this if people think that's a good idea...Yes, that really is an excellent idea! :)
A FAQ, sort of a User's Guide for tsMuxeR and usage of eac3to to maintain audio sync for PS3 and standalone replay would benefit both beginners and experts (not so many already somewhere answered questions to ask, to write, to read and to answer).

Just found a hint that eac3to could help me to solve my
"Issue 1: Audio sync after split (and append)". But I am new to tsMuxer and haven't heard of eac3to before. So, I would welcome any instructions how to do the job.

piratburner
27th October 2008, 19:15
How are you trying to play the sound back? Have you tried downconverting to DTS and see if it works?

-jj-

The original files works great on my TviX but when used TsMuxeR there is NO sound, and its the same on 2 movies with DTS-HD 7.1

All DTS-HD 5.1 Works perfect after run this on TsMuxeR

So it's a bug in this SW :-(

EDIT

If Downconvert to DTS its OK . but I like DTS-HD more :-)

nwg
27th October 2008, 21:34
I don't see how rebuilding the M2TS would help -- the same timestamps will result in the same problem. Anyway, I have a solution -- I was just reporting the problem in the hope that the developers would take note...


Is it a easy solution? I also noticed the same rewind and ffwd problems with Tsmuxer files. I also noticed a little pauses when skipping chapters.

jdobbs
27th October 2008, 22:15
Is it a easy solution? I also noticed the same rewind and ffwd problems with Tsmuxer files. I also noticed a little pauses when skipping chapters. Easy to write a program -- a little tedious to do by hand. You have to find the instances where it happens and add a new COARSE entry. The easiest way is to just read the tables into memory and then simply rewrite the COARSE/FINE correctly back into the CLPI file (then change the pointers/references).

rica
27th October 2008, 22:45
I also noticed the same rewind and ffwd problems with Tsmuxer files. I also noticed a little pauses when skipping chapters.

Hi,
dunno how it handles but just tick "change fps" option (under track options) and manually input fps; it is gonna work.
Just give it a go.

jdobbs
28th October 2008, 01:07
I do that with every mux. It doesn't solve the problem. It is very obvious when played back on my Sony standalone. For example, when you try to reverse it will go a few seconds backward and then start going forward. When you seek to a chapter, you sometimes will hear sound for a few seconds before the picture catches up. Some are worse than others. It all depends how far off the packet pointers are off.

This is not something that goes away with FM. It is a finite, repeatable, easily identifiable problem. If you dump the table IT IS VERY OBVIOUS there is a mistake in the CLPI.

I guess nobody wants to hear it... I thought I was being helpful reporting the problem along with an exact description of the symptom (as well as an offer for a solution). Heck with it... I'll do mine correctly and everyone else can continue to pretend it isn't there.

@nwg: I'll email you a solution

jamos
28th October 2008, 01:27
I do that with every mux. It doesn't solve the problem. It is very obvious when played back on my Sony standalone. For example, when you try to reverse it will go a few seconds backward and then start going forward. When you seek to a chapter, you sometimes will hear sound for a few seconds before the picture catches up. Some are worse than others. It all depends how far off the packet pointers are off.

This is not something that goes away with FM. It is a finite, repeatable, easily identifiable problem. If you dump the table IT IS VERY OBVIOUS there is a mistake in the CLPI.

I guess nobody wants to hear it... I thought I was being helpful reporting the problem along with an exact description of the symptom (as well as an offer for a solution). Heck with it... I'll do mine correctly and everyone else can continue to pretend it isn't there.

@nwg: I'll email you a solution

If you could post a link to a program to fix this that would be great help. I have Not noticed this issue with my PS3 on any AVC-HD's that I have mastered (could be the PS3 handles it better).

rica
28th October 2008, 01:38
I'll do mine correctly and everyone else can continue to pretend it isn't there.

Why do i pretend as if there is not if i've seen any issue?
I don't use PS3/or any SA but just HTPC; this might be the reason why i haven't met your issue.
But your new program would be expected with appreciation.
Feature request in advance btw:
no thd issues,
no pcm issues,
no cutting/splitting and merging issues please.

asarian
28th October 2008, 02:30
Not sure if this has been discussed (this is a long thread), so I thought I'd bring it up. TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

Does this mean you're working on BDRebuilder? :) *hope*

BZeeme
28th October 2008, 09:31
Does this mean you're working on BDRebuilder? :) *hope*

I second that!


Just tested it with v1.88 -- the problem is still there. Hopefully they'll fix it in the next release. I'll post a quick fix program in a day or so. It just needs to rebuild the tables and rewrite the CLPI. No big deal.

Please post the quick fix. It will be appreciated.

magnop
28th October 2008, 10:52
I second that!




Me too!!!

It will be great to have a tool like that for BD.

jdobbs
28th October 2008, 11:03
Does this mean you're working on BDRebuilder? :) *hope* Actually it's close to beta test now.

nwg
28th October 2008, 12:13
Actually it's close to beta test now.

I still think your DVD Rebuilder is one of the best programs I have. A BD version is very interesting. Does it output H264 like Ripbot does?

Ryu77
28th October 2008, 12:59
Not sure if this has been discussed (this is a long thread), so I thought I'd bring it up. TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

Have you had a look into tsRemux? Does this have the same problem or does it manage to write the COARSE/FINE table correctly?

asarian
28th October 2008, 13:31
If I'm in the wrong place, sorry, but everyone seems to use TSMuxer for their BR discs after ripping.


They do. :) But not for automagically creating WMV files, of course.

jdobbs
28th October 2008, 14:28
If you could post a link to a program to fix this that would be great help. I have Not noticed this issue with my PS3 on any AVC-HD's that I have mastered (could be the PS3 handles it better). Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.

I want to be sure that no one misunderstands me on this... TSMUXER is a great program and I use it all the time. It's the only one I know of that does what it does as well as it does. This little app is just a way to correct a small glitch -- which I have to assume will be corrected by the TSMUXER authors in due time.

jdobbs
28th October 2008, 14:37
I still think your DVD Rebuilder is one of the best programs I have. A BD version is very interesting. Does it output H264 like Ripbot does? I shouldn't have mentioned this -- as it pulled a good thread off-topic for a few posts.

Sorry. :(

Beastie Boy
28th October 2008, 15:55
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI...

Thank you :)

asarian
28th October 2008, 16:15
I shouldn't have mentioned this -- as it pulled a good thread off-topic for a few posts.

Sorry. :(

Well, that was my fault, actually. :) I'm sure that in the fulness of time you'll open an appropriate BDRebuilder thread.

piratburner
28th October 2008, 18:14
The original files works great on my TviX but when used TsMuxeR there is NO sound, and its the same on 2 movies with DTS-HD 7.1

All DTS-HD 5.1 Works perfect after run this on TsMuxeR

So it's a bug in this SW :-(

EDIT

If Downconvert to DTS its OK . but I like DTS-HD more :-)

Using TsNuxer with DTS-HD 5.1 works great BUT on this two I have problem.. No sound ! What can I do to fix this ? :confused:

Like I say before the original m2ts files works :-)



Million Dollar Baby 2004 1080p Blu-ray GER AVC DTS-HD HR 7.1
Main movie only one m2ts file.

Léon 1994 Ultimate Edition 1080p Blu-ray GER AVC DTS-HD MA 7.1
Main movie is on 8 differents m2ts files



I saw jdobbs on this forum, I have donate money for DVDrebuilder, And think if he could make a program like TsMUxer that works with all Blu-ray. THAT would be a dream :-)

GZZ
28th October 2008, 19:31
Thanks jdobbs for the little consol apps. It did the job just perfekt, dont have freezing picture/sound anymore. Thanks.

Ryu77
28th October 2008, 21:57
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.

I want to be sure that no one misunderstands me on this... TSMUXER is a great program and I use it all the time. It's the only one I know of that does what it does as well as it does. This little app is just a way to correct a small glitch -- which I have to assume will be corrected by the TSMUXER authors in due time.

Thank you! I just gave it a quick try and already I can see an improvement with seeking on my PC Media Player, without even mentioning the improvement it will make on a stand alone.

I always had a feeling that something wasn't quite right seeking with files created by tsMuxeR.

As you said and I completely agree, tsMuxeR is a fantastic little app. This is only a small bug which you have now addressed. I hope the author can implement this fix soon also.

nwg
28th October 2008, 23:18
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.



Thanks for that. I will try it and see how it turns out.

GZZ
29th October 2008, 00:03
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.

I made a little GUI for jdobbs program in Delphi.

FixclpiGUI (http://hbar.dk/files/FixclpiGUI.rar)

I hope anyone find it useful. Thanks to jdobbs for the fix. :)

/GZZ

kolak
29th October 2008, 00:05
Can I make PS3 working with HDMV structure from Scenarist?

It looks like PS3 doesn't like original index file- when I replace it with the one from TSMuxer than it plays fine, but I'm missing order playback, etc (because of the wrong index and playlist file). It's funny becuase all pop-up menus work fine.
Is there a way to patch index (or some others files) to get project from Scenarist working on PS3 from hard disk?

I just need to fool PS3 that this is an AVCHD project, so it can start playing it from root of the hard disk.

Thanks

yamyam
29th October 2008, 00:39
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.Thankyou jdobbs for this little app, much appreciated, Tested it on the ps3 tonight from TSmuxers blue ray output skipping chapters RW & FF all work perfectly now. Like jdobbs i have used TSmuxer for quite some time & are happy this issue has been fixed, can you help us with the dolby TrueHD problem as i get no sound in the ps3 ?

jeffnoone
29th October 2008, 07:09
Originally posted over in eac3to forum, but reply there seemed to indicate error was in tsRuxeR. Anyway essentially problem is this - has anyone else noticed that tsRemuxeR will remux the various tracks, but ends up (probably) doubling the length of a 5.1 PCM/LPCM, which I made from a TrueHD, as described below
_________________

Extracting from Dave Matthews BR disc, which has 5.1 AC3, PCM 2-ch, and TrueHD 5.1

Used eac3to 2.69 to extract the VC1 and all three audio tracks in one run; used DOS commandline, and -i 24 -c 6 -s 48000


For the TrueHD, I just extracted using the stdout technique, and saved as 6-channel PCM

Anyway tsMuxeR will import and correctly recognize the video and all three audio tracks (after I ran the 2-channel PCM thru PCM2TSMU)

But there is some problem with the BR files I produce
When running tsMuxer, it says at one point about processing a certain number of video frames (as if it has finished video early)

When you let thing complete, there are no declared errors, but PowerDVD reports as 5.38.04 i length (way too long), and video seems to "run out" about half way thru.
The AC3 track plays fine and is synced
There is sound on the 6-ch PCM but it appears very slow
The 2-channel PCM file from original disc also plays fine and is synced

I have successfully extracted 6 and 8 channel PCM before from other formats including TrueHD, but something seems to have gone wrong here - any ideas

Thanks

odin24
29th October 2008, 08:07
Originally posted over in eac3to forum, but reply there seemed to indicate error was in tsRuxeR. Anyway essentially problem is this - has anyone else noticed that tsRemuxeR will remux the various tracks, but ends up (probably) doubling the length of a 5.1 PCM/LPCM, which I made from a TrueHD, as described below
_________________

Extracting from Dave Matthews BR disc, which has 5.1 AC3, PCM 2-ch, and TrueHD 5.1

Used eac3to 2.69 to extract the VC1 and all three audio tracks in one run; used DOS commandline, and -i 24 -c 6 -s 48000


For the TrueHD, I just extracted using the stdout technique, and saved as 6-channel PCM

Anyway tsMuxeR will import and correctly recognize the video and all three audio tracks (after I ran the 2-channel PCM thru PCM2TSMU)

But there is some problem with the BR files I produce
When running tsMuxer, it says at one point about processing a certain number of video frames (as if it has finished video early)

When you let thing complete, there are no declared errors, but PowerDVD reports as 5.38.04 i length (way too long), and video seems to "run out" about half way thru.
The AC3 track plays fine and is synced
There is sound on the 6-ch PCM but it appears very slow
The 2-channel PCM file from original disc also plays fine and is synced

I have successfully extracted 6 and 8 channel PCM before from other formats including TrueHD, but something seems to have gone wrong here - any ideas

Thanks

The TrueHD track on DM & TR Live at Radio City is 96/24, maybe omit the -48000 command and leave the Hz at 96000?

Edit: If you wish to keep 48kHz, you should use -resampleto48000 (instead of -48000).

Ryu77
29th October 2008, 09:16
jdobbs, I just wanted to mention something in regards to your application. I am not sure if I should be concerned or not...

After correcting the clip info file with your application, I am noticing that during seeking at regular intervals the picture seems to display a band across the bottom portion of the screen from a previous scene. This seems to be where tsMuxeR created files used to stick for a fraction of a second. I guess my concern is... Yes, your application has definitely made seeking smoother... But... Has it introduced something else that could present problems?

Has anybody else noticed this after using the clpi fix?

Note: For reference, I am using ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre.

GZZ
29th October 2008, 10:08
I havent notice that yet. But I have another 'issue' so to speak. I dont know if its a issue and its properly not related to tsMuxer. But after inserted chapters and playing the movie, I sometimes see the last 1-5 frames from the previous scene, if I then shift forward the chapters by 100-200 ms, then they are acurrate. Dont know if it has something to do with -b-pyramid option in x264 encoder or what it is. But its a small bug, I can live with it.

jdobbs
29th October 2008, 12:27
jdobbs, I just wanted to mention something in regards to your application. I am not sure if I should be concerned or not...

After correcting the clip info file with your application, I am noticing that during seeking at regular intervals the picture seems to display a band across the bottom portion of the screen from a previous scene. This seems to be where tsMuxeR created files used to stick for a fraction of a second. I guess my concern is... Yes, your application has definitely made seeking smoother... But... Has it introduced something else that could present problems?

Has anybody else noticed this after using the clpi fix?

Note: For reference, I am using ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre.I don't see how there could be any connection whatsoever to the updates by fixclpi. The file that is changed is simple pointers to locations. It doesn't have any effect at all on the video at all. It doesn't really even change the pointer location -- it only corrects data that was missing in the MSB (most significant bits) of the pointers.

I'd look somewhere else for the cause...

Diablo69_HUN
29th October 2008, 12:37
I don't see how there could be any connection whatsoever to the updates by fixclpi. The file that is changed is simple pointers to locations. It doesn't have any effect at all on the video at all. It doesn't really even change the pointer location -- it only corrects data that was missing in the MSB (most significant bits) of the pointers.

I'd look somewhere else for the cause...

I just burnt Matrix and checked it on PS3, and everything was O.K. Thank you Jdobbs for this very usefull application!

Ryu77
29th October 2008, 12:58
I don't see how there could be any connection whatsoever to the updates by fixclpi. The file that is changed is simple pointers to locations. It doesn't have any effect at all on the video at all. It doesn't really even change the pointer location -- it only corrects data that was missing in the MSB (most significant bits) of the pointers.

I'd look somewhere else for the cause...

Yes, I was thinking it's probably just the Media Player. It's not even much concern. It's only a slight flash and the video is flashing past at 20x speed anyway so it's likely quite normal. I just thought I'd mention it just in case it was useful in any way.

I already burnt a disc with a corrected clpi and I plan to take it into work (I help manage an Audio Visual Retail Store) and test it on every Blu-ray Player we have.

Previous discs burnt after multiplexing with tsMuxeR did stick a little when seeking and on some players completely froze (mainly the Sony BD players did this). I will report back later. :-)

tebasuna51
29th October 2008, 13:40
@jeffnoone
Please put your eac3to log files to know the problem.

Thanks to odin24 I know:
"The TrueHD track on DM & TR Live at Radio City is 96/24"

then your:
"used DOS commandline, and -i 24 -c 6 -s 48000"
is wrong. If your TrueHD track is the 4 (with the logs I can know this) you need:

eac3to <your_source> 4: stdout.pcm | Pcm2Tsmu - tsmu.pcm -s 96000

-i 24 -c 6 -s 48000 are defaults and only need the parameter when are distinct.
If you want half size and 48 KHz you can use:

eac3to <your_source> 4: stdout.pcm -resampleTo48000 | Pcm2Tsmu - tsmu.pcm

laserfan
29th October 2008, 16:11
...after inserted chapters and playing the movie, I sometimes see the last 1-5 frames from the previous scene, if I then shift forward the chapters by 100-200 ms, then they are acurrate. Dont know if it has something to do with -b-pyramid option in x264 encoder or what it is. But its a small bug, I can live with it.I have noticed the same problem, though it's not always that the chapter point is too early i.e. you get the prior scene. Sometimes it's too late i.e. comes a few frames after the ideal/original point.

It seems as if using the original program's chapter points (e.g. 01:23:35.638) with the Re-encoded movie just misses the mark i.e. the original doesn't line-up properly with a keyframe in the new encoding.

I wonder if one needs to manually look at the re-encoded .264 recording, prior to muxing w/tsMuxeR, to find the best new I-frame to specify for the chapter point?

winoni71
29th October 2008, 18:00
Is there a simple way to demux a Wmv file with Vc-1 video stream?

jdobbs
29th October 2008, 19:27
I have noticed the same problem, though it's not always that the chapter point is too early i.e. you get the prior scene. Sometimes it's too late i.e. comes a few frames after the ideal/original point.

It seems as if using the original program's chapter points (e.g. 01:23:35.638) with the Re-encoded movie just misses the mark i.e. the original doesn't line-up properly with a keyframe in the new encoding.

I wonder if one needs to manually look at the re-encoded .264 recording, prior to muxing w/tsMuxeR, to find the best new I-frame to specify for the chapter point?
Some slight inaccuracy might be expected, especially when there isn't a stark difference at the scene change that would trigger X264's scene change detection to put a keyframe at the exact chapter point. The chapters you put into TSMUXER only relate to muxing and building of the MPLS file... the encode with selection of keyframes has already been done at that point. On the other hand, it may be possible for the playback software to be frame accurate even without a keyframe with AVC on BD-- I'm not positive about that. You'd think it would be really obvious in those encodes where a large grouping is used.

Interesting from the referenced post that is seems to always be off by the same amount, though...

One way you could make them exact, I guess, would be to encode all the chapters individually and then combine them afterward.

I'm not aware of another way to force a keyframe in x264 -- does anybody else know of one?

rica
29th October 2008, 20:37
Is there a simple way to demux a Wmv file with Vc-1 video stream?

Yes: ASF2VC1

http://www.ftyps.com/unrelated/asf2vc1/

Cela
29th October 2008, 21:03
Actually it's close to beta test now.
Great! :)

Still time for a Feature Request asking for a TSRebuilder
to rebuild captured DVB-S2 TS supporting kind of the following procedure?

a) trim both ends (ok with tsMuxeR)
b) cut out unwanted interior parts (possible but complicated with tsMuxeR, involving append with risk of audio sync problems)
c) define chapters in the resulting stream (ok with tsMuxeR; finding of suitable chapter locations probably could be done using some other sw like NeroVision)
d) supply a simple, table-of-contents-like main and chapters menu (currently not possible with tsMuxeR)
c) create an AVCHD structure (like supplied by tsMuxeR, but including chapter menus)

More details here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1206557#post1206557)

Does anybody know of an affordable sw out there which does this WITHOUT excessive re-encoding?

m1482
29th October 2008, 21:06
roman76r:

Would it be possible to add to TsMuxer "3:2 pulldown" option?
At this moment the only tool available that have this option (h264info) doesn't work with all type of h264 files...

Thanks...

GZZ
29th October 2008, 21:22
I'm not aware of another way to force a keyframe in x264 -- does anybody else know of one?

I was thinking the same, X264 should have a parameter, so you could include at chapter list and it then could insert an keyframe on those exact location, then I think chapters will be correct. I think CCE does that for Mpeg2, so cant see why it couldnt be built into x264. But I might be wrong. :)

peterjcat
29th October 2008, 21:27
roman76r:

Would it be possible to add to TsMuxer "3:2 pulldown" option?
At this moment the only tool available that have this option (h264info) doesn't work with all type of h264 files...

Thanks...

eac3to will properly strip 3:2 pulldown from H.264 files and so far it's worked for all of mine... is that what you mean?

laserfan
29th October 2008, 21:28
Some slight inaccuracy might be expected, especially when there isn't a stark difference at the scene change that would trigger X264's scene change detection to put a keyframe at the exact chapter point. ...I'm not aware of another way to force a keyframe in x264 -- does anybody else know of one?I just learned a number of things about this:

1. Apparently most x264 cl's allow use of B-frames as "reference points" and so I observed that many scene changes in my 264 were at B-frames, not I-frames.

2. To find this I had to use Avidemux, as serving VirtualDub 1.8.6 with DGAVCindex .dga file displays each/every frame as a K(keyframe)!!??

3. Although I'd changed my .meta file for tsMuxeR to reflect the exact scene change point, clearly it was instead finding I-frames on playback. Sorta ugly.

4. When I saw with Avidemux the correct x:xx:xx.xxx codes for the I-frames, and edited the .meta file accordingly, all the chapters now seek to exactly the place I'd selected (which was in every case an I-frame).

I would like to know how to not use B-frames as "reference" if I'm interpreting this correctly. Would rather always assert an I-frame if possible at scene changes. All of my scene changes were stark/different/obvious indeed.

BTW I used --keyint 24 and --min-keyint 2 and it seems each/every GOP was 24 long, not sure this is right (should have been some GOPs <24???).

Thanks jdobbs for fixclpi.exe--tried that also and it seemed to make a difference.

kolak
29th October 2008, 21:56
...

I would like to know how to not use B-frames as "reference" if I'm interpreting this correctly. Would rather always assert an I-frame if possible at scene changes. All of my scene changes were stark/different/obvious indeed.

BTW I used --keyint 24 and --minkeyint 2 and it seems each/every GOP was 24 long, not sure this is right (should have been some GOPs <24???).

Thanks jdobbs for fixclpi.exe--tried that also and it seemed to make a difference.

You need an I frame on a chapter point. If you put it somewhere on P or B frame than it's very likely that player will jump to the nearest I frame instead of specified place. It does work like this for DVD and also for Blu-ray.

They can be shorter GOPs, but there may not be- depends on the encoder.

rebkell
29th October 2008, 22:24
I just learned a number of things about this:

1. Apparently most x264 cl's allow use of B-frames as "reference points" and so I observed that many scene changes in my 264 were at B-frames, not I-frames.

2. To find this I had to use Avidemux, as serving VirtualDub 1.8.6 with DGAVCindex .dga file displays each/every frame as a K(eyframe)!!??

3. Although I'd changed my .meta file for tsMuxeR to reflect the exact scene change point, clearly it was instead finding I-frames on playback. Sort ugly.

4. When I saw with Avidemux the correct x:xx:xx.xxx codes for the I-frames, and edited the .meta file accordingly, all the chapters now seek to exactly the place I'd selected (which was in every case an I-frame).

I would like to know how to not use B-frames as "reference" if I'm interpreting this correctly. Would rather always assert an I-frame if possible at scene changes. All of my scene changes were stark/different/obvious indeed.

BTW I used --keyint 24 and --minkeyint 2 and it seems each/every GOP was 24 long, not sure this is right (should have been some GOPs <24???).

Thanks jdobbs for fixclpi.exe--tried that also and it seemed to make a difference.

You can raise the value of scenecut, but I use --min-keyint 1 on all my captures that I reencode and it definitely does nail almost every break, of course I'm going to a lot of black scenes and such during commercials, so my odds probably increase. I think min-keyint has a dash in the parameter, did you use minkeyint? that might be why every gop is exactly 24.

Ryu77
29th October 2008, 23:03
You can raise the value of scenecut, but I use --min-keyint 1 on all my captures that I reencode and it definitely does nail almost every break, of course I'm going to a lot of black scenes and such during commercials, so my odds probably increase. I think min-keyint has a dash in the parameter, did you use minkeyint? that might be why every gop is exactly 24.

Yes you are correct, "min-keyint" is meant to have a dash.

laserfan
30th October 2008, 00:34
Yes you are correct, "min-keyint" is meant to have a dash.Just a typo in my post. I did indeed use --min-keyint 2.

odin24
30th October 2008, 00:37
@jdobbs and GZZ,

Thanks for the clpifix app and GUI, they both work fantastic. My only trial with the app was on a direct port with no recoding, rip --> BD-RE (h264 & DTSHD-MA). Hopefully I'll have the same results from the same source recoded for DVD9 and DTS core, I'll know soon. Playback was on the PS3.

Thanks again.

EDIT: The recoded DVD9 works just as well with the fixed clpi file on the PS3.

jamos
31st October 2008, 02:42
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.

I want to be sure that no one misunderstands me on this... TSMUXER is a great program and I use it all the time. It's the only one I know of that does what it does as well as it does. This little app is just a way to correct a small glitch -- which I have to assume will be corrected by the TSMUXER authors in due time.

Thanks Bud!:)

jamos
31st October 2008, 02:55
jdobbs, I just wanted to mention something in regards to your application. I am not sure if I should be concerned or not...

After correcting the clip info file with your application, I am noticing that during seeking at regular intervals the picture seems to display a band across the bottom portion of the screen from a previous scene. This seems to be where tsMuxeR created files used to stick for a fraction of a second. I guess my concern is... Yes, your application has definitely made seeking smoother... But... Has it introduced something else that could present problems?

Has anybody else noticed this after using the clpi fix?

Note: For reference, I am using ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre.

I am not seeing any artifacts or flashing after using the fix, this works great JDobbs thanks!

jeffnoone
31st October 2008, 07:13
@jeffnoone
Please put your eac3to log files to know the problem.

Thanks to odin24 I know:
"The TrueHD track on DM & TR Live at Radio City is 96/24"

then your:
"used DOS commandline, and -i 24 -c 6 -s 48000"
is wrong. If your TrueHD track is the 4 (with the logs I can know this) you need:

eac3to <your_source> 4: stdout.pcm | Pcm2Tsmu - tsmu.pcm -s 96000

-i 24 -c 6 -s 48000 are defaults and only need the parameter when are distinct.
If you want half size and 48 KHz you can use:

eac3to <your_source> 4: stdout.pcm -resampleTo48000 | Pcm2Tsmu - tsmu.pcm

To tebasuna51 and odin24 - spot on with your advice
Ran it with the -s 96000 parameter, perfect sync

Thanks to you both
Jeff

odin24
31st October 2008, 07:23
To tebasuna51 and odin24 - spot on with your advice
Ran it with the -s 96000 parameter, perfect sync

Thanks to you both
Jeff

No prob. My advice, keep the 96/24... it sounds amazing!!!

Ryu77
31st October 2008, 11:54
I am not seeing any artifacts or flashing after using the fix, this works great JDobbs thanks!

I guess you missed my post after that one...

Yes, I was thinking it's probably just the Media Player. It's not even much concern. It's only a slight flash and the video is flashing past at 20x speed anyway so it's likely quite normal. I just thought I'd mention it just in case it was useful in any way.

I already burnt a disc with a corrected clpi and I plan to take it into work (I help manage an Audio Visual Retail Store) and test it on every Blu-ray Player we have.

Previous discs burnt after multiplexing with tsMuxeR did stick a little when seeking and on some players completely froze (mainly the Sony BD players did this). I will report back later. :-)

I have now tested these "corrected" Blu-ray discs on various stand alone Blu-ray players and they seem fine. As I had already mentioned, it was probably just the media player and it wasn't much of a concern.

Also, it seems that the newer Somy BDPS350 doesn't freeze with burnt BD-9 (AVCHD/BD-ROM) discs like the previous Sony models did. It's good to see improvements in stand alone Blu-ray players as well as price reductions. I feel that soon Blu-ray will see a big leap in market penetration.

piratburner
2nd November 2008, 11:19
Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

frenchglen
2nd November 2008, 14:08
Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tvGreat! I've already submitted mine! :)

odin24
2nd November 2008, 14:14
Great! I've already submitted mine! :)

Me too, automatically have subtitles enabled (for forced subs that are not hardcoded).

Can't wait.

jamos
2nd November 2008, 14:31
Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

wonder why 1.88 is not there is there bugs in it? I have been using it fine.

odin24
2nd November 2008, 14:40
wonder why 1.88 is not there is there bugs in it? I have been using it fine.


It's just a beta version, not a final version... I've been using 1.8.8 as well.

microchip8
2nd November 2008, 14:44
I have sent an email to Smartlabs to update their Linux version, which is stuck at 1.7.3(b). I hope they will be so kind to do so

billqs
2nd November 2008, 19:50
Let me begin by saying that I LOVE TsMuxeR! I am having a small problem however, when getting TsMuxeR to read the .mpls on seamless branch discs to put together the correct streams. Everything comes out in the proper order, but there are several places where the audio/video is out of sync. Should I manually mux these section of the m2ts files, or is there another way to make sure that audio stays in sync. The disc in question was my BlueRay of Forgetting Sarah Marshall that I backed up using DumpHD and TsMuxeR. I am sure I have much to learn when backing up seamless branch discs. I will get my disc out and try the back up again once I get some feedback. Thanks!

odin24
2nd November 2008, 20:46
Let me begin by saying that I LOVE TsMuxeR! I am having a small problem however, when getting TsMuxeR to read the .mpls on seamless branch discs to put together the correct streams. Everything comes out in the proper order, but there are several places where the audio/video is out of sync. Should I manually mux these section of the m2ts files, or is there another way to make sure that audio stays in sync. The disc in question was my BlueRay of Forgetting Sarah Marshall that I backed up using DumpHD and TsMuxeR. I am sure I have much to learn when backing up seamless branch discs. I will get my disc out and try the back up again once I get some feedback. Thanks!

I suggest you learn how to use eac3o for seamless branching appending, this app handles it perfectly. Check out the thread in the audio section of this site.

SwissyJim
3rd November 2008, 20:43
here's a (probably) dumb question. But I've searched and could not find the answer I was looking for.

But using tsmuxer 1.8.8 on Bluray disks, how do I know if there are subtitles that are needed, like during a brief section of foreign language? Are they hard coded in and NOT one of the selectable subtitle tracks? I'm removing all extras for space savings, but I want to make sure I don't remove a needed subtitle. Is there a way to tell what should stay and what can go?

Again, sorry for the dumb question but I didn't find this by searching. Thanks!

rica
3rd November 2008, 21:53
SwissyJim,

Sorry but the question is not so much understandable; at least for me.

If you mean forced subtitles on the main movie; they are hard-coded afaik.

odin24
3rd November 2008, 22:06
here's a (probably) dumb question. But I've searched and could not find the answer I was looking for.

But using tsmuxer 1.8.8 on Bluray disks, how do I know if there are subtitles that are needed, like during a brief section of foreign language? Are they hard coded in and NOT one of the selectable subtitle tracks? I'm removing all extras for space savings, but I want to make sure I don't remove a needed subtitle. Is there a way to tell what should stay and what can go?

Again, sorry for the dumb question but I didn't find this by searching. Thanks!


I don't think there is an application that tells you this straight up. I have the same concern with every movie that I process, which is a lot.

What I do is demux all english subtitle tracks, then view each of them with SUPRead, this applications can do many things with .sup subs including viewing them for proper placement when remuxing and viewing the text. It will also show how many images there are, usually there is ~1200 images to a 2hr movie or ~1500 to a SDH sub track (descriptive subs for deaf and hard of hearing).

Now if there is a sub track with only 50 or 60 images then that is probably the "forced" sub track that is required, that is not hardcoded. Unfortunately I have not found a way to enable the automatically, but with this knowledge you know to enable them yourself right away.

If there is only sub tracks with ~1200-1500 images then if there are any "forced" subs then they would most likely be hardcoded.

I have found this method to be pretty reliable. Hope it helps.

EDIT: BTW, I do all of my demuxing with eac3to only because it handles seamless branching titles (more than one m2ts file to the main movie) better than tsMuxeR. eac3to fixes gap/overlaps whereas tsMuxeR doesn't and this could cause sync issues.

Bigmango
3rd November 2008, 22:22
I am also voting for the feature to allow us to automatically enable forced subtitles.

Is this something we might see in a future release?

BZeeme
4th November 2008, 12:44
If I use fixclpi on the clpi file in the backup CLIPINF folder as well as in the main CLIPINF folder, the BP5 will not play in my standalone (Panasonic DMP-BD30 with latest firmware) but will play in my computer's BD/HD-DVD player (LG Model GGC-H20L). If I run fixclpi on only the main CLIPINF folder, the Panasonic will play it.

BTW, I don't see any difference between BD5s with or without correcting the clpi (same movie)

Cela
4th November 2008, 17:18
Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

Feature requests for tsMuxeR

Out of recent experiences with DVB-S2 H.264 TS streams, recorded with DVBViewer from Astra 19.2E Free TV transmissions, I would like to suggest the following feature requests:

1. In "Split & Cut" add Cutting option "Enable snapping to next (nearest) I-frame for Start and End ON/OFF"
Why? DVB-S2 streams practically never start with an I-Frame. tsMuxer and othe programs seem to suppose that input streams start with an I-frame. This feature would help to comply with this requirement and help to avoid audio delay and lip-sync problems.

2. Allow chapter list with annotation:
(internally skip the annotation part behind the timestap after character position 12)
Example:
00:00:00.000 Project Heading
00:00:36.700 Clip 1
00:03:11.000
00:04:51.200 Clip 2| Madonna| Like a virgin
00:05:31.400
00:07:01.200 Clip 3
etc.
Why: Can be useful for later chapter menu or subtitle creation or just to remember the contents of that chapter.
When searching for appropriate chapter entrance points in captured DVB-S2 recordings, you normally collect the data in such a format in a notepad text file:
<timestamp>[<space as delimiter>< annotation comment>]

3. Allow option "Snap to next/Nearest I-Frame ON/OFF" for chapters.
Why: more fluent replay?

4. Allow individual audio delays for each audio input stream.
Why? Compensate for different audio delays of each input stream. DVB-S2 recordings can have more than one audio stream, each having its individual delay.

May I direct your attention to my other two best ignored postings
One (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1206557#post1206557)
Two (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1208023#post1208023)

Do you know how to wrap simple table-of-content-like chapter-menu(s) around tsMuxeR's BD structure?

I love tsMuxeR's processing speed! :)
All other software I found and tested applied excessive re-encoding!


Regards,

Cela

microchip8
4th November 2008, 17:49
@ Cela

you better report these requests to tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

Cela
5th November 2008, 14:34
...you better report these requests to tsmuxer@smartlabs.tvThanks! Followed your advice!

I supposed, the tsMuxeR experts would read this thread concerning their program.

And, I still have not given up hope to get some feedback from the experts here. Maybe, most or all of what I ask for, can be already done? And somebody would tell me where to read how?

My most urgent question right now:
A simple and quick way to transform the captured ts, which does not start and end at I-frames into a few frames shorter ts that will start and end with an I-frame as "good" input for tsMuxeR.

I know, H264TSCutter can do it, but it is considerably slower producing the output than tsMuxer or TSPlayer. Thus, I only use it for "precious" recordings and look for an alternative for everyday recordings.

Regards,
Cela

frank
8th November 2008, 12:18
Nero ShowTime 4 (Nero 8) plays all tsMuxeR remuxed BDs fine.
After using fixclpi on 720p BD-9 or BD-5 the Nero OSD shows 1920x1080 and it hangs/crashs. Movie doesn't start anymore.

Posted by BZeeme:If I use fixclpi on the clpi file in the backup CLIPINF folder as well as in the main CLIPINF folder, the BP5 will not play in my standalone (Panasonic DMP-BD30 with latest firmware) but will play in my computer's BD/HD-DVD player (LG Model GGC-H20L). If I run fixclpi on only the main CLIPINF folder, the Panasonic will play it Suspicious. Panasonic BD players are known as very compliant players.

S_T
9th November 2008, 10:06
Hello - I've been using tsMuxer for a while now with 99% success (and satisfaction). However, there is one annoying little quirk for a few movies. I found that somehow, during the remuxing of a BD title to a BD folder, tsMuxer omits the .clpi information in the clpi folder, hence when i playback as an ISO mount, the BD title just sits there not doing anything. I know that tsMuxer has issues with screwing up clpi files, but i haven't seen anyone report the files missing in the folders themselves (i have the original BD disk and its fine). Does anyone have a fix for this?

survivant001
9th November 2008, 14:58
it's really a godd piece of software, but there are few enhancements that could me made.

- create basic menu of bluray output (like nero)
- create snapshot of the video when creating the chapters (could be use to browse the chapter's list)
- better handling for rw and ff for the PS3
- when you import 2 movies, the option to join them, not creating 2 separetes movies. Useful when we have a 2 parts movie.

odin24
9th November 2008, 15:08
it's really a godd piece of software, but there are few enhancements that could me made.

- create basic menu of bluray output (like nero)
- create snapshot of the video when creating the chapters (could be use to browse the chapter's list)
- better handling for rw and ff for the PS3
- when you import 2 movies, the option to join them, not creating 2 separetes movies. Useful when we have a 2 parts movie.

Make sure you forward your suggestions to smlabs.

There is a fix out right now for the seeking issues with the PS3, it's a separate application that fixes the clpi file in the Blu-ray structure. It can be found in this thread, it called fixclpi.exe, there is also a gui. It works very well.

Also, joing two files in tsMuxeR already exists, it's called "append". Load your first file, then append the second, third, and so on. The A/V streams must be identical for this to work though.

survivant001
10th November 2008, 14:32
There is a fix out right now for the seeking issues with the PS3, it's a separate application that fixes the clpi file in the Blu-ray structure. It can be found in this thread, it called fixclpi.exe, there is also a gui. It works very well.



thanks, but that is when you use AVCHD ou burn the bluray ?. in Tsmuxer, I choose the output bluray, but I manually select 00001.m2ts when I watch a movie. I don't burn them.

but when BDrebuilder will be release..or when tsmuxer will add menus.. that will be something else.

nasa
11th November 2008, 17:28
Hi,

After searching the thread -- I couldn't find anyone with similar issues, so I hope someone can give me a hand... I am trying to convert some m2ts files (that contain TrueHD audio) into stripped down m2ts with AC3 (ie: get rid of the extra languages and subtitles). I start the gui version, select tracks I want to eliminate and/or convert - ID where to save the file and press convert. On several files the conversion will start and then hang (ie: stop at 46%, for example, and never move on).

What can I do to see what is causing the hangs?

I am running this under WinXP...

Thanks in advanced.

eas4uk
11th November 2008, 19:19
Hi,

After searching the thread -- I couldn't find anyone with similar issues, so I hope someone can give me a hand... I am trying to convert some m2ts files (that contain TrueHD audio) into stripped down m2ts with AC3 (ie: get rid of the extra languages and subtitles). I start the gui version, select tracks I want to eliminate and/or convert - ID where to save the file and press convert. On several files the conversion will start and then hang (ie: stop at 46%, for example, and never move on).

What can I do to see what is causing the hangs?

I am running this under WinXP...

Thanks in advanced.

Why dont you just use eac3to to get the ac3 track out of the THD track and then use tsmuxer to mux back to m2ts?

nasa
11th November 2008, 20:37
eas4uk,

Could you point me to a howto to do what you suggest? I am fairly new to this.....

Thanks

BTW: I have been somewhat successful with most of my blu-ray rips. I get the main *.m2ts file from the blu-ray (I have anydvdhd) and generally I can play them with mplayer. I do sometimes run into issues with languages, but most of those I can get the right track identified and playing. However, there are some disk which have the english audio in TrueHD and other languages in AC3. Since I have never learned any other language, those tracks aren't useful to me... So I was trying tsmuxer to reduce the size by removing unused tracks while getting the truehd to an AC3 format so I can hear it... I have used tsmuxer to fix a couple of blu-ray's, but for some reason some flicks just don't work.

The guide here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151 doesn't address removing/converting audio tracks..

eas4uk
11th November 2008, 23:35
eas4uk,

Could you point me to a howto to do what you suggest? I am fairly new to this.....

Thanks

BTW: I have been somewhat successful with most of my blu-ray rips. I get the main *.m2ts file from the blu-ray (I have anydvdhd) and generally I can play them with mplayer. I do sometimes run into issues with languages, but most of those I can get the right track identified and playing. However, there are some disk which have the english audio in TrueHD and other languages in AC3. Since I have never learned any other language, those tracks aren't useful to me... So I was trying tsmuxer to reduce the size by removing unused tracks while getting the truehd to an AC3 format so I can hear it... I have used tsmuxer to fix a couple of blu-ray's, but for some reason some flicks just don't work.

The guide here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151 doesn't address removing/converting audio tracks..

Its quite a long thread and it helps if your familiar with the command line, although there is a GUI available

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966

rica
12th November 2008, 00:20
If you want to downconvert THD to ac3 the command line will be:

eac3to input.m2ts output.ac3

If you want to keep THD as it is, it's another story:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125


_ _ _ _

kurt
15th November 2008, 16:09
bugreport:

when muxing this vc1 mkv file
General
Complete name : D:\Movies\xxx.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 15.5 GiB
Duration : 2h 10mn
Overall bit rate : 17.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-11-15 13:26:08
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Nov 3 2008 16:33:12
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : VC-1
Codec ID : WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Resolution : bit0
Title : xxx WVC1
Language : English

Audio #1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : German
to ts this message appear:

http://i37.tinypic.com/farjlx.png

setting fps for video does not solve the problem, for audio streams there is no such option...

workaround: when demuxing the audiotracks (mkvextract) and load them separately in tsmuxer everything is fine...

But: it's not working on popcorn hour. complete stuttering. seems sth. wrong with this vc1 track or the container (muxed from BD to mkv some time)...

Edit: it only works on Popcorn Hour if the vc1 stream is demuxed via graphedt (haali matroska spliter ---> dump), thx to rica who pointed this out.

Rectal Prolapse
16th November 2008, 01:28
Has anyone successful gotten an mpeg2 1080i29.97 video to play in a Blu-ray standalone player using txmuxer to generate a Blu-ray structure? I have not gotten this to work in my Panasonic BD55 player - I get a "this operation not supported" error. :(

It works in PowerDVD 7 and 8 on the PC.

n0mag!c
17th November 2008, 19:28
Has anyone successful gotten an mpeg2 1080i29.97 video to play in a Blu-ray standalone player using txmuxer to generate a Blu-ray structure?
tsMuxer cannot handle 30i MPEG2 video streams properly.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1187701#post1187701

Rectal Prolapse
17th November 2008, 21:27
Thanks, I saw that post yesterday. :(

Scenarist has no problems.

d0ORk
19th November 2008, 20:06
If the mainmovie is splitted in many files, say 20... it is possible to load the playlist.
Thats ok so far. If I want to demux them, is it better to click m2ts muxing first with all the content or can I demux them with the audio tracks and subtitles I want to have clicking demux?

Greets

odin24
19th November 2008, 23:10
If the mainmovie is splitted in many files, say 20... it is possible to load the playlist.
Thats ok so far. If I want to demux them, is it better to click m2ts muxing first with all the content or can I demux them with the audio tracks and subtitles I want to have clicking demux?

Greets


You can load the MPLS file and demux (no need for m2ts muxing), the results will give you one file for each stream selected.

Be warned, tsMuxeR does not repair gaps/overlaps you might encounter with seamless branching titles. Once muxed back together you might experience sync issues. Eac3to demuxing will fix these issues in most cases, then you can remux using tsMuxeR.

dh2005
21st November 2008, 20:53
Hey guys,

Brand new 'round here. I'm almost inevitably asking something that's been asked before, but wading through 113 pages of posts was a little too intimidating for me...!

I downloaded TS MuxeR this week to repair some .VOBs with fractured timecodes that I've been trying to play back on my PS3 - and overall, I'm very pleased with it. It made about a dozen movies that I'd all-but given up on playable again, and all within the space of a couple of hours. Awesome...

... but I have one very minor grumble - all of the repaired .VOBs (which are now M2TS files) have at least one instance of video break-up - half a second of 'blockiness', like you'd expect if you were watching a scratched DVD or something.

It's not a big deal, but if there's a setting I could change to prevent this, I'd go from being "very pleased" to "absolutely delighted"!

For a start, am I right to be converting them to M2TS files? Simple TS files can't be read by the PS3, so I know that's not the correct option, but what about the others...?

Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


DH.

dh2005
21st November 2008, 21:01
odin24 - funny you should mention sync issues, because I encountered one of the those yesterday using TSMuxeR.

The Angels In America mini-series (which is excellent, by the way...) is issued on two DVDs - three episodes per disc. These three episodes are NOT broken up into separate titles on their disc, however - the three episodes are all held within Title 1, and they run successively.

When I rip the whole of each Title 1 (which are each about three hours long), they're around 6.4GB, which is too big for the PS3's 4GB file limit. So I used TSMuxeR to cut the two 6.4GB files into six 2.xxGB files, so that each episode was contained within a separate file.

I was so, so proud of myself...! Until I noticed that the audio sync was slipping further and further as the episodes went along. To the point at which the audio was just laughibly wrong - it looked like a dodgy '70s Hong Kong martials arts flick.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

Sorry to hijacking the thread with my own personal crises!

Thanks again,


DH.

odin24
21st November 2008, 21:27
odin24 - funny you should mention sync issues, because I encountered one of the those yesterday using TSMuxeR.

The Angels In America mini-series (which is excellent, by the way...) is issued on two DVDs - three episodes per disc. These three episodes are NOT broken up into separate titles on their disc, however - the three episodes are all held within Title 1, and they run successively.

When I rip the whole of each Title 1 (which are each about three hours long), they're around 6.4GB, which is too big for the PS3's 4GB file limit. So I used TSMuxeR to cut the two 6.4GB files into six 2.xxGB files, so that each episode was contained within a separate file.

I was so, so proud of myself...! Until I noticed that the audio sync was slipping further and further as the episodes went along. To the point at which the audio was just laughibly wrong - it looked like a dodgy '70s Hong Kong martials arts flick.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

Sorry to hijacking the thread with my own personal crises!

Thanks again,


DH.

The PS3 is not limited to 4GB file sizes with m2ts... it's unlimited, I've had files as big as 40GB on my PS3. The tricky part is transfering them to the PS3, you can do this if your PS3 is hooked up to your home network, just copy them over via a media server. I use Cyberlink.

This might fix your sync issues. If not, and if this option is available in tsMuxeR, try to remove the pulldown before muxing to m2ts. Load your VOB file, in the "Tracks:" section in the first tab, highlight the video stream, if the option to "Remove Pulldown" is available make sure it is checked, then mux to m2ts.

dh2005
22nd November 2008, 10:21
Sure - I didn't mean that the PS3 itself is limited, but I'm running these files off a FAT32-formatted external HDD.

Thanks for your thoughts on removing the pulldown - I have no idea what this means, so I've just left it alone! Is that a good thing to do with any .VOB? Might it also resolve the blocking problem I mentioned in my previous post?

Much appreciated,


DH.


EDIT: Just out of interest, I had a play about with the "demux" option, to see what it would do. I see that it's created individual data streams from the .VOB I put into it. I presume therefore that "remuxing" is doing the opposite... is there any way of "muxing" (if I'm using that verb correctly...!) subtitle tracks into a .VOB? For foreign movies, and the like.

odin24
22nd November 2008, 14:50
Sure - I didn't mean that the PS3 itself is limited, but I'm running these files off a FAT32-formatted external HDD.

Thanks for your thoughts on removing the pulldown - I have no idea what this means, so I've just left it alone! Is that a good thing to do with any .VOB? Might it also resolve the blocking problem I mentioned in my previous post?

Much appreciated,


DH.


EDIT: Just out of interest, I had a play about with the "demux" option, to see what it would do. I see that it's created individual data streams from the .VOB I put into it. I presume therefore that "remuxing" is doing the opposite... is there any way of "muxing" (if I'm using that verb correctly...!) subtitle tracks into a .VOB? For foreign movies, and the like.

Pulldown is a technical process that allows film displayed at 23.976 fps (frames per second) to be properly played on NTSC TVs that have a refresh rate of 60Hz and require 29.97 fps. Removing the pulldown would bring it back to 23.976 fps, the way it was intended to be viewed.

In regards to demuxing/(re)muxing, you get the idea. As for subtitles, it all depends on how you wish to view the movie. You could copy the DVD 1:1 preserving the original subs. Or if you want a rip you could encode to DivX and add the subs (as .srt) that way, once you encode to DivX use AVIaddXSubs (http://www.calcitapp.com/AVIAddXSubs.php) to mux the subs and the DivX file. I believe this format will play on the PS3, I have never tried this though. Another way would be to mux to BD using tsMuxeR and add .srt subs that way. Unfortunately no subs in just plain old m2ts.

To get your subtitles from the DVD to file format you need to use an OCR program, like SubRip (http://www.divx-digest.com/software/subrip.html), a semi automatic text recognizing application to rip DVD subs (that are normally stored in picture format on a DVD) to text format to be used with other muxing apps.

The only concern with OCR apps is the app scans the images on the DVD and you you tell it what they are by typing them with your keyboard. You must be careful, it's way too easy to make a typo and you need to make sure the proper fonts are used as well, italics and stuff like that.

dh2005
22nd November 2008, 19:37
Many thanks for that. All this advice is very helpful.

I'll be back if (... more like when...!) I have more questions.


EDIT: Actually, I have one already...

... should I remove the pulldown from all the NTSC discs that I have? I live in Britain, so our TV standard is PAL, although my TV can display both PAL and NTSC - could it still be causing me some problems? I ask this because, typically, my Region 1 (NTSC) discs give me more trouble than the PAL ones.

odin24
22nd November 2008, 20:26
Many thanks for that. All this advice is very helpful.

I'll be back if (... more like when...!) I have more questions.


EDIT: Actually, I have one already...

... should I remove the pulldown from all the NTSC discs that I have? I live in Britain, so our TV standard is PAL, although my TV can display both PAL and NTSC - could it still be causing me some problems? I ask this because, typically, my Region 1 (NTSC) discs give me more trouble than the PAL ones.


If you remux your DVDs that are NTSC to m2ts they should play fine through your PS3, (I have played PAL encoded files on my NTSC PS3), however as a DVD they will most likely have issues caused by the PS3 even though your TV can display NTSC.

When processing you should remove the pulldown, this way it will much closer to the PAL standard.

dh2005
23rd November 2008, 22:06
Thanks for all of this.

There's really only one remaining problem that I have - I've not raised it already because I've asked around on three or four other forums, but no-one's had a clue. I've rather begun to lose faith that there's an answer...

Some of my movie .VOBs (around 25% of them, actually), have lost their anamorphism. That is to say, the DVDs themselves are anamorphic, so I get nice crisp images when I use the discs, but the .VOBs need to be zoomed, so I lose definition. Which sucks a little... but only a little. I realise it's not a big deal, but maybe you know what can be done about this.

To bring you up to speed with what I've tried so far; I downloaded DVDPatcher after someone on another forum advised that the DVD was probably authored wrongly, and that all I needed to do was change the aspect ratio on the file header from 4:3 to 16:9... which sounded like an awesome idea, but ultimately didn't work because the .VOBs proved to already have headers set to 16:9.

But what keeps me thinking that the authoring's to blame is that this fault occurs in patterns - nearly all of my movie .VOBs with this problem are MGM discs, and Seasons 2, 3 and 4 of House MD (which are Universal discs, whereas the rest of my TV is either Fox or BBC) all have the same problem. Yet most of my movies, and nearly all of my other TV shows, are fine.

Solve this one, and you'll be my favourite person in the World!


DH.

EDIT: In case you were going to suggest it, I've tried remuxing them to M2TS files already - not because I thought it would work, but just to give something a try. Didn't make a difference.

odin24
23rd November 2008, 22:14
Thanks for all of this.

There's really only one remaining problem that I have - I've not raised it already because I've asked around on three or four other forums, but no-one's had a clue. I've rather begun to lose faith that there's an answer...

Some of my movie .VOBs (around 25% of them, actually), have lost their anamorphism. That is to say, the DVDs themselves are anamorphic, so I get nice crisp images when I use the discs, but the .VOBs need to be zoomed, so I lose definition. Which sucks a little... but only a little. I realise it's not a big deal, but maybe you know what can be done about this.

To bring you up to speed with what I've tried so far; I downloaded DVDPatcher after someone on another forum advised that the DVD was probably authored wrongly, and that all I needed to do was change the aspect ratio on the file header from 4:3 to 16:9... which sounded like an awesome idea, but ultimately didn't work because the .VOBs proved to already have headers set to 16:9.

But what keeps me thinking that the authoring's to blame is that this fault occurs in patterns - nearly all of my movie .VOBs with this problem are MGM discs, and Seasons 2, 3 and 4 of House MD (which are Universal discs, whereas the rest of my TV is either Fox or BBC) all have the same problem. Yet most of my movies, and nearly all of my other TV shows, are fine.

Solve this one, and you'll be my favourite person in the World!


DH.

EDIT: In case you were going to suggest it, I've tried remuxing them to M2TS files already - not because I thought it would work, but just to give something a try. Didn't make a difference.

I don't think there's an easy way around your anamporphic issue. You may need to recode, and use Clever Anamorpic Encoding, MeGUI/AviSynth can do this.

n0mag!c
23rd November 2008, 22:41
Some of my movie .VOBs (around 25% of them, actually), have lost their anamorphism. That is to say, the DVDs themselves are anamorphic, so I get nice crisp images when I use the discs, but the .VOBs need to be zoomed, so I lose definition.

I've tried remuxing them to M2TS files already - not because I thought it would work, but just to give something a try. Didn't make a difference.
How do you get your VOBs? Did you just copy it from DVDs? So we're always talking about SD 720x480 NTSC MPEG-2 videos? If you could upload a few MB sample it could help.

dh2005
23rd November 2008, 23:28
Sorry - I really should've mentioned that before...

I'm ripping my .VOBs from original DVDs (absolutely no rip-offs) using DVDShrink, and I'm using AnyDVD to remove regional coding. Even when AnyDVD is disabled (I don't need it to rip Region 2 discs...), the anamorphic problem persists, so that's not the cause of it either. The overwhelming majority of my discs are PAL (720x576), but the anamorphic issue doesn't discriminate - both PAL and NTSC discs are affected.

Thanks for the advice on Clever Anamorphic Encoding - as ever, I've never heard of it...! One question, though - will it output lossless .VOBs, or .MPGs, or the like? I don't like compromising on picture and sound quality, so I wouldn't be happy using a lossy format.

Thanks again. Keep the excellent advice coming!


DH.

EDIT: I've also tried using DVDFab and DVDDecrypter to rip the .VOBs. Didn't make a difference.

SeeMoreDigital
23rd November 2008, 23:53
Some of my movie .VOBs (around 25% of them, actually), have lost their anamorphism. That is to say, the DVDs themselves are anamorphic.I recommend you upload a small (unprocessed .VOB) sample, so we can see your issue for ourselves!

dh2005
24th November 2008, 00:31
How do I do that, dude? I've never done that on a forum before.

I take it you mean that I should upload ten seconds of a movie, or something? I don't really see what you guys will see other than what I described, but I'm happy to give it a shot.

Also... meGUI's confusing the Hell out of me. It keeps telling me that my input path is illegal, and offering me very few output options. I don't think I'm gonna get on very well with this program.


DH.

SeeMoreDigital
24th November 2008, 10:05
Fortunately there are many "File Hosting" providers nowadays... We even have a dedicated thread about them located somewhere within the forum.

That said, http://rapidshare.com/ seems quite popular....

asarian
24th November 2008, 10:39
I'm still having no luck with the 'Sunshine' Bluray DVD, though. I can stream 'The Fith Element' to my PS3 just fine, perfectly fluid at ~25Mbps. But I use the exact same setting in tsRemuxeR for 'Sunshine', and I get file that will not stream at all: very jittery, that is; like it's < 10 fps. And the bitrate for audio and video are the same as for 'The Fith Element' disk! It's really bizarre.

So, okay, I demuxed the lot, ran eac3to, made a 640Kbs AC3 stream, 48Kh sampling, all by the book, and remuxed that with it instead. So, like I said, now it's running at the exact same bitrate and throughput as the other m2ts file, which streams just fine.

So, what's going on here? Disk was ripped with AnyDVD HD, so there's not a trace of BD+ stuff in it. And it plays just fine from harddisk, too (Windows Media Player). But for some reason it streams at just ca. 10 fps! (TwonkyMedia). Soon as I use no sound at all, it streams fine again.

I used the following command to convert the demuxed DTS-HD stream:

eac3to.exe 00001.track_4352.dts 00001.track_4352.ac3 -640 -down6 -8ms

And it's about 500MB, when done. Seems fair to me; but apparently not. :)

Can you believe this? The same issue is back! I decided to redo the sound for it, because of having used Sonic, which does its stupid DRC for AC3 sound (which I only learnt about later). So, I used eac3to again on the DTS-HD stream, remuxed the lot, and now it's back to jitter! It's unbelievable! :) It plays just fine from harddisk, but it won't stream properly any more.

The bizarre thing is that it really seems sound related. If I mux in the full DTS-HD stream, for instance, my PS3 won't stream the sound any more, of course, but the jitter is even ten times worse! And no, honestly, it's not a bitstream issue. I have a full gigabit network connection to my PS3, and played many stuff with bitrates far over 35Mbps. 'Sunshine' is really the only disc I have ever had this problem with. And I just can't figure it out.

I've uploaded a 50MB sample, so you, are anyone else willing, might have a look at it (if only for my own sanity, LOL). I try and stream it with TwonkyMedia 4.4.9:

http://rapidshare.com/files/166855368/test1.m2ts

Thanks

flyingernst
24th November 2008, 20:55
Hi,

I have a time difference between DTS-HD and the movie when I mux it with TSmuxer 1.8.8
My Files:
2x DTS-HD demuxed with eac3to
1x Video containert with eac3to to mkv and transcoded it with Avidemux ProxyGUI etc. to h264-mkv 720P (original and new have same duration when I´m looking for that in Media Info advanced Mode)

I mux it to "Bluray" with TSmuxer, then die Videofile is shorter and die movie ist longer then the original/720P File...so what is the problem? should it make any settings to the streams in TSmuxer?!

At this moment I am testing:
Muxing original movie-M2TS with 720P-mkv to bluray (removing original Video Stream), settings: fps to 23,976, Level to 4.1 and no hooks anywhere (never changed settings until now)

Can you help me? Greetings, Michael

EDIT: Second test, same Problem: Audio plays 6 seconds longer that video

PS: If I remember right I have the same problems with mkvs muxed by MKVToolnix

flyingernst
24th November 2008, 21:41
Ah...think the delay ist over the hole movie, feels like the hole audio file has a delay of around 2,5-3 seconds...but why and how can I fand out the real delay, wether eac3to nor tsmuxer recognizes teh audio delay in the original m2ts

Original m2ts:
General
ID : 0
Complete name : K:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 22.0 GiB
Duration : 2h 6mn
Overall bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@3
Duration : 2h 5mn
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS-HD
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS-HD
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 2h 5mn

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS


my Movie: new video.mkv muxed with original m2ts (removed VC1):

General
ID : 1
Complete name : I:\xcvsdaf\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 13.7 GiB
Duration : 2h 6mn
Overall bit rate : 15.5 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 2h 5mn
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 64 r987M e71168d
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=5 / psy_rd=0,0:0,0 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=16,0 / qcomp=0,60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1,40 / pb_ratio=1,30 / aq=1:1,0

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS-HD
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS-HD
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 2h 5mn

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS

rica
24th November 2008, 22:55
I'd like you to make a test:
Extract video as vc1 and show us the results of mediainfo.
eac3to input.m2ts output.vc1

EDIT: If everything seems OK (after demuxing), i'm gonna tell the second step.

flyingernst
24th November 2008, 23:11
I will do in 2-3 minutes, muxing now with a audio delay setting of -1080ms.
I figured it out through making small testfiles with different delay settings and compared them, used the best one....
I saw that it is not necessary to go over MKV-Container, AVS Proy GUI is able to import m2ts with VC1 Video Stream...am I right?!

rica
24th November 2008, 23:14
I think so but even it would need there was gonna be a solution.
BTW do not apply any delay while demuxing to vc1.

flyingernst
24th November 2008, 23:18
demuxing was done by eac3to...in the first method. in the second method i only demuxed the video file out to mkv with eac3to nad muxed it with the other streams coming from the original m2ts.
So next movie I will test without demuxing directly from the m2ts, so no delays will get applied

rica
24th November 2008, 23:24
eac3to input.m2ts video.vc1 audio.dtshd
That is what i expect.

flyingernst
24th November 2008, 23:31
So the movie runs good with muxing the 720P mkv to the rest of the movie with a delay of -1100ms to every audio file (and subtitle i think)


VC1 from eac3to:

General
Count : 232
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Inform : VC-1: 15.8 GiB
Count of video streams : 1
Video_Format_List : VC-1
Video_Format_WithHint_List : VC-1
Codecs Video : VC-1
Complete name : F:\IM\video.vc1
Folder name : F:\IM
File name : video
File extension : vc1
Format : VC-1
Format : VC-1
Format/Extensions usually used : vc1
Codec : VC-1
Codec : VC-1
Codec/Extensions usually used : vc1
File size : 16984297083
File size : 15.8 GiB
File size : 16 GiB
File size : 16 GiB
File size : 15.8 GiB
File size : 15.82 GiB
File creation date : UTC 2008-11-24 22:19:44.938
File last modification date : UTC 2008-11-24 22:27:49.349

Video
Count : 133
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
Inform : 1920*1080 (16/9), at 23.976 fps, VC-1 (Advanced@3)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@3
Codec : VC-1
Codec : VC-1
Codec/Family : VC-1
Codec/Url : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/format/codecdownload.aspx
Codec profile : Advanced@3
Width : 1920
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1080
Height : 1 080 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 1.000
Display aspect ratio : 1.778
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Scan type : Progressive
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive

MKV from eac3to

General
Count : 232
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Count of video streams : 1
Video_Format_List : AVC
Video_Format_WithHint_List : AVC
Codecs Video : AVC
Complete name : F:\IronMan\sdfsdf.mkv
Folder name : F:\IronMan
File name : sdfsdf
File extension : mkv
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Format/Extensions usually used : mkv mka mks
Codec : Matroska
Codec : Matroska
Codec/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Codec/Extensions usually used : mkv mka mks
File size : 8437706899
File size : 7.86 GiB
File size : 8 GiB
File size : 7.9 GiB
File size : 7.86 GiB
File size : 7.858 GiB
Duration : 7557509
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 2h 5mn 57s 509ms
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 02:05:57.509
Overall bit rate : 8931733
Overall bit rate : 8 932 Kbps
Title : Avidemux
Movie name : Avidemux
File creation date : UTC 2008-11-24 08:32:02.424
File last modification date : UTC 2008-11-24 12:30:09.545
Writing application : Lavf51.12.1
Writing library : Lavf51.12.1
Writing library : Lavf51.12.1

Video
Count : 133
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec ID/Url : http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec/Url : http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow
Codec profile : High@L3.1
Codec settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
Duration : 7549958
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 2h 5mn 49s 958ms
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 02:05:49.958
Bit rate : 8571136
Bit rate : 8 571 Kbps
Width : 1280
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528
Height : 528 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 1.000
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Frame count : 181199
Resolution : 24
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Scan type : Progressive
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive
Writing library : x264 - core 64 r987M e71168d
Writing library : x264 core 64 r987M e71168d
Writing library/Name : x264
Writing library/Version : core 64 r987M e71168d
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=5 / psy_rd=0,0:0,0 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=16,0 / qcomp=0,60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1,40 / pb_ratio=1,30 / aq=1:1,00


mkv after rendering

General
Count : 232
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Count of video streams : 1
Video_Format_List : AVC
Video_Format_WithHint_List : AVC
Codecs Video : AVC
Complete name : F:\IronMan\sdfsdf.mkv
Folder name : F:\IronMan
File name : sdfsdf
File extension : mkv
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Format/Extensions usually used : mkv mka mks
Codec : Matroska
Codec : Matroska
Codec/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Codec/Extensions usually used : mkv mka mks
File size : 8437706899
File size : 7.86 GiB
File size : 8 GiB
File size : 7.9 GiB
File size : 7.86 GiB
File size : 7.858 GiB
Duration : 7557509
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 2h 5mn 57s 509ms
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 02:05:57.509
Overall bit rate : 8931733
Overall bit rate : 8 932 Kbps
Title : Avidemux
Movie name : Avidemux
File creation date : UTC 2008-11-24 08:32:02.424
File last modification date : UTC 2008-11-24 12:30:09.545
Writing application : Lavf51.12.1
Writing library : Lavf51.12.1
Writing library : Lavf51.12.1

Video
Count : 133
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec ID/Url : http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec/Url : http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow
Codec profile : High@L3.1
Codec settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
Duration : 7549958
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 2h 5mn 49s 958ms
Duration : 2h 5mn
Duration : 02:05:49.958
Bit rate : 8571136
Bit rate : 8 571 Kbps
Width : 1280
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528
Height : 528 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 1.000
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Display aspect ratio : 2.424
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Frame count : 181199
Resolution : 24
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Scan type : Progressive
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive
Writing library : x264 - core 64 r987M e71168d
Writing library : x264 core 64 r987M e71168d
Writing library/Name : x264
Writing library/Version : core 64 r987M e71168d
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=5 / psy_rd=0,0:0,0 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=16,0 / qcomp=0,60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1,40 / pb_ratio=1,30 / aq=1:1,00




DTS HD from eac3to

General
Count : 232
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Count of audio streams : 1
Audio_Format_List : DTS-HD
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : DTS-HD
Audio codecs : DTS-HD
Complete name : F:\IronMan\deutsch.dtshd
Folder name : F:\IronMan
File name : deutsch
File extension : dtshd
Format : DTS
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format/Extensions usually used : dts
Codec : DTS
Codec : DTS
Codec/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec/Extensions usually used : dts
File size : 2060711952
File size : 1.92 GiB
File size : 2 GiB
File size : 1.9 GiB
File size : 1.92 GiB
File size : 1.919 GiB
File creation date : UTC 2008-11-23 13:09:45.165
File last modification date : UTC 2008-11-23 13:24:16.644

Audio
Count : 117
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
Format : DTS-HD
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec : DTS-HD
Codec : DTS-HD
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Channel positions : 3/2.1
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16
Resolution : 16 bits

asarian
24th November 2008, 23:46
I've uploaded a 50MB sample, so you, are anyone else willing, might have a look at it (if only for my own sanity, LOL). I try and stream it with TwonkyMedia 4.4.9:

http://rapidshare.com/files/166855368/test1.m2ts

Thanks

Rica (or anyone else), did you get a chance to look at my Sunshine issue? I think it might be delay-time related (not sure how exactly). I just can't get tsMuxeR to remux the audio with a -8ms delay (as required). Either it goes to 48ms (?) or to no offset. Even eac3to can't do it. Or probably more accurately, I can't get either to do it. :)

rica
24th November 2008, 23:52
flyingernst, can you check the syncronisation after remuxing to ts using demuxed vc1 and dtshd originals?

rica
25th November 2008, 00:31
Rica (or anyone else), did you get a chance to look at my Sunshine issue? I think it might be delay-time related (not sure how exactly). I just can't get tsMuxeR to remux the audio with a -8ms delay (as required). Either it goes to 48ms (?) or to no offset. Even eac3to can't do it. Or probably more accurately, I can't get either to do it. :)

Hi asarian,
your sample is a Fox introduction clip which includes just ac3, not dtshd.
I'd suggest to cut the movie between 5th and 6th minutes via TsMuxer, remux to m2ts and reupload it.

asarian
25th November 2008, 01:49
Hi asarian,
your sample is a Fox introduction clip which includes just ac3, not dtshd.
I'd suggest to cut the movie between 5th and 6th minutes via TsMuxer and reupload it.

Hi Rica,

Thanks for replying. :) As for the AC3, I have to stream it to my PS3, which is why I converted the HD audio to AC3 (but sans the DRC, this time). So, I kinda need the AC3 to work.

Actually, I split up the file in many parts (using a common file splitter), but something in the middle or so, wouldn't that miss proper headers and such?

rica
25th November 2008, 01:55
Those are different asarian; trascoding to ac3 or demuxing to ac3 as is. This is why i need a dtshd included original cut m2ts.
BTW; no problem in my trial with your sample; the delay seems as 9ms and TSMuxer doesn't complain.
Hi Rica,
wouldn't that miss proper headers and such?
No, just try to cut (not split) by TSMuxer.

Edit: i need a original cut including a dialog inside.

asarian
25th November 2008, 02:05
Those are different asarian; trascoding to ac3 or demuxing to ac3 as is. This is why i need a dtshd included original cut m2ts.
BTW; no problem in my trial with your sample; the delay seems as 9ms and TSMuxer doesn't complain.
Edit: i need a original cut including a dialog inside.
Yeah, it's at 9ms. It should be at -8ms. i'm guessing that's what's causing the odd jitter when streaming (not when playing from hard disk); though I can't really come up with a good reason for it.

Okay, I'll whip in the BD and rip the original HD audio again. It's 2 AM here already, so it might be early tomorrow; but I'll upload it as soon as possible. Thanks anyway for helping out.

rica
25th November 2008, 02:07
You are welcome, here is 3.00 am as well, see you tomorrow (sorry "today") then :)

rica
25th November 2008, 02:38
asarian, before going to sleep, just some small tricks:
Do not apply any manual options to command line in eac3to,
click video after importing to tsmuxer and under "general track options" tick the "change fps" option and leave it as default.

coolalibaba
25th November 2008, 03:24
Hi, I'm a noob here...can tsMuxeR be used to extract DVD? I tried to open the VOB files in one of my DVD but looks tsMuxeR only recognized one video track but failed to recognize any audio track. It reported some error msg like "can not recognize some track and it will be ignored". This DVD has 1 dts 5.1 audio track and another 2 AC3 audio tracks. I tested with dvddecrypt and it could recognize all the video and audio tracks. Is there anything wrong with my operation?

flyingernst
25th November 2008, 08:57
flyingernst, can you check the syncronisation after remuxing to ts using demuxed vc1 and dtshd originals?

Hi,

I will do, perhaps not today

greetings, Michael

73ChargerFan
25th November 2008, 20:20
Hi, I'm a noob here...
Start by reading and searching in the Newbies forum. (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=6) This application won't do what you want.

n0mag!c
25th November 2008, 21:25
I'm ripping my .VOBs from original DVDs (absolutely no rip-offs) using DVDShrink.
I don't like compromising on picture and sound quality, so I wouldn't be happy using a lossy format.
I've also tried using DVDFab and DVDDecrypter to rip the .VOBs. Didn't make a difference.
Try to use SmartRipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartripper) instead to get VOB-file. It surely leaves video stream untouched.
Or try to use tsMuxer (using its append feature) to get TS-file, which you can play on PC and PS3.

gillie
27th November 2008, 01:05
Hoping someone can help.
I've been using tsMuxeR GUI 1.8.8 to produce .ts files of Blu-Ray rips which I can then play via my TVix M6500 "media streamer".
Process I'm using is as follows -
1. Rip Blu-ray disc to hard disk with AnyDVD HD (v6.4.8.5)
2. Use eac3to (v2.78) to extract video to .mkv and the audio to .dts or .ac3
3. Use tsMuxeR GUI 1.8.8 to create .ts file container the video and audio streams

This process has worked fine for weeks but has now started creating a .ts file which has either no video playback or corrupted video playback. The audio is fine.

If I use tsMuxeR to extract the video and audio directly from the Blu-ray hard disk copy then the .ts file works okay. But using this method I'm unable to modify the audio output. My preference is to extract the lossless audio stream to DTS using eac3to and Surcode DTS encoder.

If I use MKVmerge to create a .mkv file of the same streams the output is fine, but my TviX box is rubbish with large .mkv files with high bit rates so this isn't an option for me.

Would welcome anyones thoughts on this one.

peterjcat
27th November 2008, 01:09
If you're not going to end up with an MKV then there's not usually much point extracting the video to MKV -- you can just extract it to an elementary stream of the right kind (.h264, .vc1, .mpeg2) and then load that stream into tsMuxeR.

gillie
27th November 2008, 01:36
If you're not going to end up with an MKV then there's not usually much point extracting the video to MKV -- you can just extract it to an elementary stream of the right kind (.h264, .vc1, .mpeg2) and then load that stream into tsMuxeR.

I'll try extracting to an elementary stream as you suggest. Sorry for my ignorance but if mediainfo shows the Blu-ray source video as AVC then which output type should I select in eac3to?

asarian
27th November 2008, 01:53
asarian, before going to sleep, just some small tricks:
Do not apply any manual options to command line in eac3to,
click video after importing to tsmuxer and under "general track options" tick the "change fps" option and leave it as default.

Rica, after struggling with it for yet another day, Í'm glad to report the issue is resolved. :)

The mistake I kept making, is that I tried to remux the already extracted DTS track (I keep all HD audio track on my harddisk, in the idle hope the PS3 will one day support HD audio on streaming). That track, however, had the 9ms delay (should have been -9ms). Somehow, trying to give it a different delay works the jitter. I think the media player components (Twonky/PS3) constantly try to resync the audio with the video, but I have to admit I never fully understood how the two are synced to each other anyway. At any rate, recreating the stream from the original DTS-HD track, with eac3to, did the trick (I'm guessing because then it stays nicely at -9ms). An now everything is shiny again. :)

Anyway, thank you for very for your time and efforts. :)

asarian
27th November 2008, 01:59
Sorry for my ignorance but if mediainfo shows the Blu-ray source video as AVC then which output type should I select in eac3to?

Give it a .h264 extension.

rica
27th November 2008, 21:10
asarian, you are welcome; i'm glad you've solved the issue.

gillie
27th November 2008, 21:29
If you're not going to end up with an MKV then there's not usually much point extracting the video to MKV -- you can just extract it to an elementary stream of the right kind (.h264, .vc1, .mpeg2) and then load that stream into tsMuxeR.

Okay. Tried extracting the video to an elementary stream (.h264) then tsmuxed the streams into a .ts file and all works fine.

Looking at the mediainfo details for the .ts files which don't work it looks like something odd is going on. The "duration" of the .ts file is 2x what it should be. But the individual .mkv and .dts files both have the correct duration. Think it may be the latest versions of eac3to which are producing odd .mkv files.

pjohnson73
28th November 2008, 19:51
I have been using mkv2vob to convert files to play on my PS3 and using 720p mkv's. I read where tsmuxer supports DTS as long as I create an AVCHD file, but my question is will it work with 1080p mkv's?

odin24
28th November 2008, 22:33
I have been using mkv2vob to convert files to play on my PS3 and using 720p mkv's. I read where tsmuxer supports DTS as long as I create an AVCHD file, but my question is will it work with 1080p mkv's?

DTS will work in AVCHD or Blu-ray format on the PS3 no problem, you must ensure your video is a proper BD compliant resolution though. Either 1920x1080 (not 1920x800, etc), 1440x1080, or 1280x720 (not 1280x528, etc). Or you will get a distracting green bar across your TV screen... DTS and subs may not work properly either.

pjohnson73
29th November 2008, 14:53
Ok, so as long as the mkv has a proper resolution it shouldn't take too long with tsmuxer? I basically want to take the files which are 1080p and DTS and play on the PS3.

ankurs
29th November 2008, 19:01
anyone know how i can extract chapters from a .m2ts file ?

tsmuxer when clicking on the custom chapters tab just gives chapters after 5 minutes each (like im supposed to input the chapters :S ) , i need something like pgcdemux which simply gives the chapter times from the dvd9 automatically...

tsmuxer did the job for the subs fine though ..

i intend to mux the chapters along with the subs to my mkv using megui eventually along with my x264 encode ...

any help folks ?

kurt
29th November 2008, 19:08
ankurs: try eac3to. it can easily extract chapters (as well as audio, video, subs, just everything :D)

ankurs
29th November 2008, 19:12
it only seems to be able to open .ac3 files AFAIK , anything i am missing kurt , detailed help please ? as in how am i supposed to open a .m2ts in it when only ac3 opens in it ? and what tabs to click on ?

i do have EAC3TOGUI lying around my HDD ..

n00b here :(

odin24
29th November 2008, 19:18
it only seems to be able to open .ac3 files AFAIK , anything i am missing kurt , detailed help please ? as in how am i supposed to open a .m2ts in it when only ac3 opens in it ? and what tabs to click on ?

i do have EAC3TOGUI lying around my HDD ..

n00b here :(


Is your source a BD rip? If so, there are two ways to do this.

1. With eac3to (not with eac3toGUI).
2. Easier method, with tsMuxeR. You need to open the correct MPLS file from the Playlist folder. Go to the Blu-Ray tab, highlight custom chapters and copy/paste to a new text file.

kurt
29th November 2008, 19:19
it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

ankurs
29th November 2008, 19:51
Is your source a BD rip? If so, there are two ways to do this.

1. With eac3to (not with eac3toGUI).
2. Easier method, with tsMuxeR. You need to open the correct MPLS file from the Playlist folder. Go to the Blu-Ray tab, highlight custom chapters and copy/paste to a new text file.

yay ! i loaded the mpls file in tsmuxer and it did the job , thanks for giving me the idea that it can be done using the mpls file kurt and odin , i was loading the .m2ts directly before , many thanks !

it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

ty once again kurt :)

dh2005
1st December 2008, 02:40
Try to use SmartRipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartripper) instead to get VOB-file. It surely leaves video stream untouched.
Or try to use tsMuxer (using its append feature) to get TS-file, which you can play on PC and PS3.

Thank you very much for the recommendation. Although SmartRipper hasn't solved the problem I was asking about, it has solved another problem - by allowing me to create individual .VOBs for chapters within a title, it's got around a problem I had with breaking up a 12GB mini series into six 2GB parts without having to remux (which messed with the audio sync). So, thanks a lot.

Can I ask about the TS files that TSMuxeR creates? I've not been able to run these on my PS3, so when I've been forced to remux I've used M2TS files instead...

... now, I don't want to appear ungrateful, because M2TS files have come to my rescue many times, but, they do show very occasional video break-up (smearing and artefacting, like you'd see when watching a damaged DVD), and if there's anything I can do to prevent this I'd LOVE to hear about it.

Maybe it's an inevitability of the remuxing process, in which event, I'll just stomach it. But if there's anything that can be done to prevent these video problems, someone please let me know...

Thanks.


DH.

kartman_canada
1st December 2008, 18:44
it's a commandline program and support you get over in the eac3to thread. not here plz.

but: if you have the playlistfile of the BD you can also use HdBrstreamextractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)

http://i33.tinypic.com/mtmd6h.png

Eac3toGUI is quite outdated when it comes to chapters...

OK... I'm interested in the next step... once the file "chapters.txt" has been extracted along with audio and video. I plan to use TsMuxer to create an M2TS file for PS3 playback.

Is there a way to fold the info in "chapters.txt" in the mux process to maintain the original chapter breaks?

kurt
1st December 2008, 22:09
sorry, can't help you out here. I don't know if chapter support could be possible with tsmuxer so that PS3 or Popcorn Hour could take advantage of.

Chapters in mkv are no problem (but nor playable on PS3, on PCH ok, but bitrate is too high for untouched video :D). I normally demux the chapters in the hope that sometime I can mux it together into maybe TS? :)

dh2005
3rd December 2008, 03:29
I don't know where I got the idea that the PS3 can't read .TS files, because I've just found that it can. Clearly, I'm a plonker.

I have a general question about de/remuxing with TS MuxeR... is it better to demux a .VOB into its audio and video streams before remuxing them (i.e. do the two steps separately), or is it no different to simply checking the "TS" option then clicking the "start muxing" button?

Also, does anyone think that the video problems I've been encountering after muxing is to do with me using .M2TS, rather than .TS? Is there something about the process of converting a .VOB to an .M2TS that might mess up the video stream a little bit...?

Thanks as ever. I wouldn't have made this progress without you all.


DH.

Selur
3rd December 2008, 11:50
Is there a new linux version of tsmuxer planned for the near future?
Hoping especially for "Ability to convert SRT to PGS added."

Cu Selur

microchip8
3rd December 2008, 12:01
Is there a new linux version of tsmuxer planned for the near future?
Hoping especially for "Ability to convert SRT to PGS added."

Cu Selur

I emailed SmartLabs a month ago asking them to keep the Linux version on par with the Windows one. I did not get any reply back :/

7saigon5
3rd December 2008, 16:33
I have an error when muxing video files with subtittle in Tsmuxer.Please advise anyone!

rica
3rd December 2008, 22:34
I have an error when muxing video files with subtittle in Tsmuxer.Please advise anyone!

Do you try to remux HD-DVD subtitles?

nwg
4th December 2008, 00:10
I have a couple of audio questions. I am about to venture into making movie only blu rays from a blu ray rip. I have been doing this to DVD for a little while but will be using BD-R's. If I mux a TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track. Will a BD player still recognise the DTS and AC3 core for older amps?

Will a BD player also recognise multiple mutliple mux audio tracks?

rica
4th December 2008, 02:11
If you use analog cables over to your old fashioned receiver, why not?
The answer of the second part of your question is "yes" btw.
But you must know how to remux THD; you may have a look at this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125

nwg
4th December 2008, 06:48
If you use analog cables over to your old fashioned receiver, why not?
The answer of the second part of your question is "yes" btw.
But you must know how to remux THD; you may have a look at this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125

Thanks.

I am not using analogue cables which is why I need the core part of the HD tracks. In the future if I get HD audio capabiliy, it would be nice to have the HD audio already.

I know how to demux audio tracks. I am not actually planning on demuxing. It is my intention as long as the total is under 25GB to use Tsmuxer to just select the video, audio and subs I want and create a movie only blu ray and the burn it to a bd-r.

odin24
4th December 2008, 06:57
Thanks.

I am not using analogue cables which is why I need the core part of the HD tracks. In the future if I get HD audio capabiliy, it would be nice to have the HD audio already.

I know how to demux audio tracks. I am not actually planning on demuxing. It is my intention as long as the total is under 25GB to use Tsmuxer to just select the video, audio and subs I want and create a movie only blu ray and the burn it to a bd-r.


If you keep the HD audio you'll still get DTS core @ 1536kb/s and AC3 @ 640kb/s through optical.

To answer your second question, yes. You can have as many audio/subtitle tracks as you wish, as long as they are BD compatible. Since you're processing rips you shouldn't have any issues.

nwg
4th December 2008, 07:15
If you keep the HD audio you'll still get DTS core @ 1536kb/s and AC3 @ 640kb/s through optical.

To answer your second question, yes. You can have as many audio/subtitle tracks as you wish, as long as they are BD compatible. Since you're processing rips you shouldn't have any issues.

Thanks.

PanteraGSTK
5th December 2008, 00:08
I hate to ask, but has the Dolby TrueHD problem with tsmuxer been fixed yet? I want to keep my TrueHD tracks so I can mux them back into my .ts files without any problems. This will come in handy when I get an HDMI capable reviver and a sound card with bitstream support (whenever that will be.) DTS-MA works great so far. I just need DolbyTrueHD support and I will have an all in one solution.

Thanks for a great product.

jtheripper
5th December 2008, 00:25
Nope not fixed yet. Best option is to use eac3to to convert the dolby truhd to lpcm.

nwg
5th December 2008, 00:27
what is the truehd problem?

odin24
5th December 2008, 00:53
tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD fine, the problem is it doesn't play on any device.

You can either convert to LPCM (as jtheripper suggested) then reprocess through pcm2tsmu for tsMuxeR compatibility, or if you wish to retain the TrueHD track you need to mux to m2ts with the TrueHD track, the use the new m2ts file and remux using tsremux.

GreenOnyx
5th December 2008, 01:02
tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD fine, the problem is it doesn't play on any device.

You can either convert to LPCM (as jtheripper suggested) then reprocess through pcm2tsmu for tsMuxeR compatibility, or if you wish to retain the TrueHD track you need to mux to m2ts with the TrueHD track, the use the new m2ts file and remux using tsremux.

And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

peterjcat
5th December 2008, 01:05
And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

I agree with GreenOnyx. tsMuxeR muxes TrueHD but it doesn't do it fine, it does it really crappily. Even running the results through TsRemux doesn't fix what tsMuxeR has done for all devices (eg it doesn't work for NMT devices as far as I can tell).

odin24
5th December 2008, 01:11
And this is considered "fine" and functioning by design???

Just a couple of small workarounds for a hopefully temporary issue. The is going to be a new version coming out in the new year, make any suggestions you might have at the smlabs website.

jtheripper
5th December 2008, 01:26
remuxing with tsremux doesnt always work. Sometimes it does but usually not

odin24
5th December 2008, 02:08
remuxing with tsremux doesnt always work. Sometimes it does but usually not


My experiences are only with Sony products (PS3 and some standalones), so I guess my post was slightly misinformed.

PanteraGSTK
5th December 2008, 20:44
what software would I use to mux the TrueHD track into a m2ts or ts file? Other than tsremux or tsmuxer.

jtheripper
5th December 2008, 21:59
None that I know of. MeGui uses tsmuxer. If anyone knows of one program that will do this and not mess up the TrueHD please post

Actually sonic scenarist will if you got $5000 :)
http://www.sonic.com/products/Professional/Scenarist/quicklook.aspx

redspear
6th December 2008, 01:34
DTS will work in AVCHD or Blu-ray format on the PS3 no problem, you must ensure your video is a proper BD compliant resolution though. Either 1920x1080 (not 1920x800, etc), 1440x1080, or 1280x720 (not 1280x528, etc). Or you will get a distracting green bar across your TV screen... DTS and subs may not work properly either.

Hi,

Why DTS & subs doesn't work properly? Is there any workaround with this issue?
I would love to see my files with DTS & Subtitles without having to convert them to AC3.

Another thing, when the result is AVCHD, the files become bigger. With some files i can cut the end credits but with others i can't. Besides re-encoding, the other way is using bigger storage media (DVD DL; Blue Ray)?

Is there any way to joing multiple files + SCR in a single media?

PS: I'm only using PS3 to play my files

odin24
6th December 2008, 02:27
Hi,

Why DTS & subs doesn't work properly? Is there any workaround with this issue?
I would love to see my files with DTS & Subtitles without having to convert them to AC3.

Another thing, when the result is AVCHD, the files become bigger. With some files i can cut the end credits but with others i can't. Besides re-encoding, the other way is using bigger storage media (DVD DL; Blue Ray)?

Is there any way to joing multiple files + SCR in a single media?

PS: I'm only using PS3 to play my files

They will work, as long as your video res is proper, and in Blu-ray format. The only way to get a proper res, if it is not, is to re-encode it.

Yes, you can use whatever size disk you please, I have a BD-RE D/L for straight up rips, I also have DVD5-RWs, if that's all I need.

You can join multiple files as long as the codecs are the same, i.e. both streams from each file are h264 and DTS, if one has AC3 then no, you need to convert the DTS to AC3 first.

nwg
6th December 2008, 21:01
Does this fixclipi still need to be used on BDMV's intended to be burned to BD-R/RE?

odin24
6th December 2008, 21:05
Does this fixclipi still need to be used on BDMV's intended to be burned to BD-R/RE?


I still apply it.

nwg
6th December 2008, 21:29
I still apply it.

Ok, thanks.

Bosko
6th December 2008, 22:08
Question about 720p .mkv files of broadcast tv shows...

If one wants to play these on a PS3, I know one has to convert them to .avi -- but I'm wondering, since they're 720p files, what does that mean exactly? Played on a PS3 on a hidef widescreen display, will they actually "fill the screen" on their own (and not just play letterboxed in the 4:3 center of the screen)?

And does one need to play them on a bluray player (which the PS3 is, of course)? Or will they play on a regular dvd player that can upscale to the hidef display?

Thanks for the info!

odin24
6th December 2008, 22:59
Question about 720p .mkv files of broadcast tv shows...

If one wants to play these on a PS3, I know one has to convert them to .avi -- but I'm wondering, since they're 720p files, what does that mean exactly? Played on a PS3 on a hidef widescreen display, will they actually "fill the screen" on their own (and not just play letterboxed in the 4:3 center of the screen)?

And does one need to play them on a bluray player (which the PS3 is, of course)? Or will they play on a regular dvd player that can upscale to the hidef display?

Thanks for the info!

You do not need to convert to avi, use tsMuxeR and convert to m2ts and play directly for the PS3's HDD or USB stick. Also, with m2ts there is no file size restriction.

The 720p mkv's (converted to m2ts) will play in full screen using your PS3, you can either mux to Blu-ray or m2ts... which ever you prefer.

In order to play on an upconverting DVD player you will need to convert to DVD first, in the process downgrading to 480p... then the player will upconvert to 1080 or 720, which make no sense if you have a PS3, you definetly will lose quality.

n0mag!c
6th December 2008, 23:03
But if there's anything that can be done to prevent these video problems, someone please let me know...
You've been asked several times to upload a few mb sample. Or do you really think that difficult question is less important than easy one? ;)

P.S. You can cut a sample with CutTools (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutTools.shtml).

Bosko
7th December 2008, 01:35
You do not need to convert to avi, use tsMuxeR and convert to m2ts and play directly for the PS3's HDD or USB stick. Also, with m2ts there is no file size restriction.

The 720p mkv's (converted to m2ts) will play in full screen using your PS3, you can either mux to Blu-ray or m2ts... which ever you prefer.

In order to play on an upconverting DVD player you will need to convert to DVD first, in the process downgrading to 480p... then the player will upconvert to 1080 or 720, which make no sense if you have a PS3, you definetly will lose quality.

Gotcha! Yeah, playing on a regular dvd player doesn't make any sense... D'oh! :)

So do I just follow the instructions from here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_mkv_content_on_playstation_3_ps3.cfm

You can also play them from a burned dvd, right?

And what's the difference between muxing them to mt2s or bluray? (I see that you can choose in those instructions linked to above...) Is one better/worse than the other for any reason?

Thanks for the help!

odin24
7th December 2008, 15:39
Gotcha! Yeah, playing on a regular dvd player doesn't make any sense... D'oh! :)

So do I just follow the instructions from here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_mkv_content_on_playstation_3_ps3.cfm

You can also play them from a burned dvd, right?

And what's the difference between muxing them to mt2s or bluray? (I see that you can choose in those instructions linked to above...) Is one better/worse than the other for any reason?

Thanks for the help!

The benefits of m2ts is you can use a USB stick, or play directly from the PS3's HDD. Also, it doesn't matter what the video resolution is, it will playback just fine. The drawbacks; only AC3 and LPCM is supported for audio, no DTS or HD audio, and no subtitles. Only h264 video is supported, VC-1 must be played as Blu-ray, not sure about MPEG-2 (old dinosaur) never tried it in m2ts. M2ts can be played off DVD but I wouldn't recommend it, I'd transfer it from the DVD and watch from the PS3's HDD... save your BD drive some wear & tear.

The benefits of playing as "Blu-ray" is all HD audio is supported, as well as DTS @ 1536kb/s, .srt and .sup subtitles are supported too. All BD compliant video codecs are supported (h264, VC-1, MPEG-2). You can incorporate chapter points and stream information. The drawbacks; only one as far as I can think of... the video res must be a proper one, i.e. 1920x1080 (not 1920x800, etc), 1440x1080, or 1280x720 (not 1280x528, etc).

I do my own rips, usually if the movie does not required subs, or have VC-1 as the video codec, I'll convert the HD audio to LPCM, transfer to the HDD (via media server as m2ts) and watch from it. I also have a few BD-RE just incase I need to use them for subtitles or VC-1 encodes.

That guide is pretty accurate, only for using the bare bones of tsMuxeR.

n0mag!c
7th December 2008, 20:18
The benefits of m2ts is you can use a USB stick, or play directly from the PS3's HDD. Also, it doesn't matter what the video resolution is, it will playback just fine. The drawbacks; only AC3 and LPCM is supported for audio, no DTS or HD audio, and no subtitles.
And only first audio track in file.
Only h264 video is supported, VC-1 must be played as Blu-ray, not sure about MPEG-2 (old dinosaur) never tried it in m2ts.
MPEG-2 video is supported too.
The benefits of playing as "Blu-ray" is all HD audio is supported, as well as DTS @ 1536kb/s, .srt and .sup subtitles are supported too.
Wow, wow, slow down!:) .srt isn't supported by PS3.

odin24
7th December 2008, 20:37
And only first audio track in file.

MPEG-2 video is supported too.

Wow, wow, slow down!:) .srt isn't supported by PS3.

LOL, tsMuxer accepts .srt and converts to .sup on the fly.

rica
7th December 2008, 21:39
LOL, tsMuxer accepts .srt and converts to .sup on the fly.

Correct :)

n0mag!c
7th December 2008, 21:45
By the way, I use 64 pixels for bottom offset, maybe 72 pixels would be better for any reason?

odin24
8th December 2008, 02:05
By the way, I use 64 pixels for bottom offset, maybe 72 pixels would be better for any reason?


Sometimes yes, sometimes no... Sometimes 32 is good enough.

I use SUPread to view the subs first, it will give you a good idea where the subs will be displayed onscreen. If the subs are almost touching the bottom of the SUPread display, that's how it'll be on your TV. Of course my rhyme & reason applies to .sup.. for .srt usually 64 or even 72-80 is good too.

If I am muxing .srt subs, I'll verify my offset by using AVCHD-ME and a small 5 minute sample.

ggking7
8th December 2008, 17:56
Can anyone tell me how to remux with tsmuxer via the command line, so that it will piece together streams from multiple non-sequential m2ts files? I think I need to point it toward an mpls file, but I can't seem to write a meta file that works. If someone could show me the way I'd really appreciate it.

jdobbs
8th December 2008, 18:14
Somewhere (in this thread?) someone posted an english version of the TSMUXER readme file. It helps a lot in putting together a good .META file for muxing from the command line.

odin24
8th December 2008, 18:16
It's a sticky in this forum. Good idea.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559

ggking7
8th December 2008, 18:50
I've come up with the following meta file but it doesn't quite work.

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "H:\videos\blu-ray\movie\BDMV\PLAYLIST\01007.mpls", insertSEI, contSPS, down-to-dts, mplsFile=01007, track=6913

Can anyone correct me? Where does that track number come from? I just copied it from the GUI.

fico99
9th December 2008, 13:15
I have a lot of WMV-HD files with resolutions of 1920x816 or 1280x544 which I would like to convert to Blu-ray/AVCHD to play on my PS3.

I can demux the VC-1 video from the WMV-HD file and demux/convert the WMA10 Professional 5.1 audio to Dolby Digital 5.1, but the problem is that when I add these demuxed video and audio streams in tsMuxer to create a Blu-ray/AVCHD file structure, I end up with green bars.

Would it be possible to add black bars using tsMuxer so that the muxed Blu-ray/AVCHD output is in 1920x1080 or 1280x720?

tyee
9th December 2008, 16:15
I've just read that the latest two versions of the PS3 firmware (2.5, 2.53) has enabled sequential playback of m2ts files, which many of us have been waiting for. I haven't installed it yet to try but will tonight.

It will be great if it works, however there still is the problem of the loss of a second or two during playback from an external usb hdd (\AVCHD Blu-ray stucture folder) when each m2ts is less than 4GB. This has been solved by a relative of someone on this forum, sample provided and verified, but instructions are not provided to me.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has solved this yet and is the problem due to tsMuxer not splitting properly at keyframes.

I think I've read that camcorder videos can playback without glitches at cut points but when tsMuxer cuts we get this problem. Can it be anything else except keyframes? How can a video start without the first frame not being a keyframe??

jj666
9th December 2008, 16:22
118 pages - 2 related to TSMUXER and 116 are PS3 spam. It's really no wonder the author doesn't post here any more!

-jj-

Beastie Boy
9th December 2008, 16:38
118 pages - 2 related to TSMUXER and 116 are PS3 spam. It's really no wonder the author doesn't post here any more!

-jj-

Yes, if only more posts were as useful as yours... :rolleyes:

I suppose tsMuxer just happens to be a very useful app for PS3 users.

asarian
9th December 2008, 17:13
VC-1 must be played as Blu-ray,

Actually, VC-1 is supported when streaming, but only in a WMV container with 2.0 sound.

asarian
9th December 2008, 17:20
Would it be possible to add black bars using tsMuxer so that the muxed Blu-ray/AVCHD output is in 1920x1080 or 1280x720?
No. Not without reencoding, at least. Use x264, make a wee AVS script, and add something like this to your video source:

.AddBorders(0, 140, 0, 140)

ggking7
9th December 2008, 17:25
I'm sorry to post again, but I must be making a small mistake here. My meta file works if I use an m2ts file for the media file, but I want it to follow an mpls playlist:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "H:\videos\blu-ray\movie\BDMV\PLAYLIST\01007.mpls", insertSEI, contSPS, down-to-dts, mplsFile=01007, track=6913

Does anyone know how to do that? I'm also not sure how to determine the correct track number.

jdobbs
9th December 2008, 17:36
The second parameter, I believe, should point to one or more M2TS files (linked by the "+" sign and based upon what is in the MPLS). You're also using the "down-to-dts" parameter on a video stream. The track number changes depending upon the track, but video is normally 4113.

It's probably easiest just to let TSMUXER create the .META for you.

ggking7
9th December 2008, 17:42
Alright, but I don't understand what good the mplsFile option does if I need to specify each m2ts anyway. Basically, I've read that tsmuxer has the ability to follow a stream across multiple m2ts files by way of an mpls playlist file, but I don't know how to do it.

How can I get tsmuxer to create the .meta file? I'm using tsmuxer via wine on Linux so I can't use the GUI.

asarian
9th December 2008, 17:50
Can anyone tell me how to remux with tsmuxer via the command line, so that it will piece together streams from multiple non-sequential m2ts files? I think I need to point it toward an mpls file, but I can't seem to write a meta file that works. If someone could show me the way I'd really appreciate it.
Aren't you just a whole lot better off letting eac3to do that for you? I found eac3to to be superb in that regard; and, if you let it do your audio too, wil take care of possible gaps too.

ggking7
9th December 2008, 17:56
Is that right? I thought I'd be better off using 1 program instead of 2, but maybe tsmuxer doesn't work well with mpls files after all? I can't use eac3to to mux because it requires a DirectShow filter that won't work via wine on Linux.

jdobbs
9th December 2008, 18:21
Alright, but I don't understand what good the mplsFile option does if I need to specify each m2ts anyway. Basically, I've read that tsmuxer has the ability to follow a stream across multiple m2ts files by way of an mpls playlist file, but I don't know how to do it.

How can I get tsmuxer to create the .meta file? I'm using tsmuxer via wine on Linux so I can't use the GUI. It links them all together, in the proper sequence, putting the right tracks from the separate M2TS files as single streams, and muxes them.

The contents of the META file is displayed for you by the TSMUXER gui. You simply cut-and-paste it into a text file and rename it to .META. If you can't use the GUI then you have nothing available that will read the M2TS for you. The M2TS lists all the M2TS files that are contained in the playback list.

ggking7
9th December 2008, 18:35
It links them all together, in the proper sequence, putting the right tracks from the separate M2TS files as single streams, and muxes them.

Yes, that's what I want, but can you show me an example .meta file involving an mpls? I can't find one anywhere.

If you can't use the GUI then you have nothing available that will read the M2TS for you. The M2TS lists all the M2TS files that are contained in the playback list.

If I try to open an mpls or m2ts file in the GUI, it says "Unsupported file format" and nothing is displayed in any of the program's windows. I don't think anyone has the GUI working via wine in Linux.

asarian
9th December 2008, 19:37
Yes, that's what I want, but can you show me an example .meta file involving an mpls? I can't find one anywhere.

If I try to open an mpls or m2ts file in the GUI, it says "Unsupported file format" and nothing is displayed in any of the program's windows. I don't think anyone has the GUI working via wine in Linux.

Yes, the GUI can read mpls files just fine, like:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "Q:\Wall-E\BDMV\STREAM\20008.m2ts", track=4113, mplsFile=00047
A_AC3, "Q:\Wall-E\BDMV\STREAM\20008.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00047

Problem with mpls files, of course, is that you can never immediately tell which one will contain the main feature (their numbering tends to be rather opaque). So, that's another reason I use eac3to: it immediately shows you which mpls has the main movie, and which m2ts files are associated with it, like:

1) 00095.mpls, 20001.m2ts+20000.m2ts, 1:38:25
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

2) 00081.mpls, 00071.m2ts+20000.m2ts, 1:38:12
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

3) 00089.mpls, 20000.m2ts, 1:37:26
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

Then the movie can just be extracted with "1)", and that's all; it doesn't get much easier than that. :) With txMuxeR, I'd first have to open several mpls files to find out it's really 00095.mpls I wanted.

dh2005
9th December 2008, 20:18
You've been asked several times to upload a few mb sample. Or do you really think that difficult question is less important than easy one? ;)

P.S. You can cut a sample with CutTools (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutTools.shtml).


Thanks n0mag!c - but I've got to the bottom of the problem, now. I've not solved it (because, if I'm correct, it can't be solved), but I know why it's happening.

ggking7
9th December 2008, 20:54
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "Q:\Wall-E\BDMV\STREAM\20008.m2ts", track=4113, mplsFile=00047
A_AC3, "Q:\Wall-E\BDMV\STREAM\20008.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00047


There are two things I'm confused about.

1. How do you decide which m2ts file to declare when you are specifying an mplsFile?

2. How do you know what number to use for the track number?

odin24
9th December 2008, 21:28
Actually, VC-1 is supported when streaming, but only in a WMV container with 2.0 sound.

Yeah, good point... I guess I cudda mentioned that. I knew that but was more concerned with BD/AVCHD structured movies, it's generally how I watch my movies as opposed to WMV w/ 2.0 audio.

rica
9th December 2008, 23:12
Problem with mpls files, of course, is that you can never immediately tell which one will contain the main feature (their numbering tends to be rather opaque).

There is one way more: BDInfo shows the main mpls.
Just select that mpls on TSMuxer.

73ChargerFan
10th December 2008, 00:02
rica, thanks for pointing me to BDInfo.

rica
10th December 2008, 00:15
You are welcome.

ggking7
10th December 2008, 00:51
Are you supposed to declare the m2ts file which is first in the mpls sequence? What about that track number?

rica
10th December 2008, 01:09
BDInfo will show you the main mpls on the left top corner.
In this sample the main mpls is 00083.mpls which consists of 00181.m2ts.
Track number?
You don't need it when you use TSMuxer; just select the tracs you need after loading the main mpls; that's all...

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7549/bdinfonewqz8.th.png (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdinfonewqz8.png)

ggking7
10th December 2008, 02:43
In this sample the main mpls is 00083.mpls which consists of 00181.m2ts.

What if the mpls consists of many different m2ts files? When using tsmuxer via the command line, for the meta file, should you specify the first m2ts file in the sequence?

You don't need it when you use TSMuxer; just select the tracs you need after loading the main mpls

If I don't specify a track number I get an error. In asarian's example above, he has specified tracks 4113 and 4352. Where do those numbers come from?

rica
10th December 2008, 03:16
What if the mpls consists of many different m2ts files? When using tsmuxer via the command line, for the meta file, should you specify the first m2ts file in the sequence?



If I don't specify a track number I get an error. In asarian's example above, he has specified tracks 4113 and 4352. Where do those numbers come from?

Look at this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3913/bdinfotsmuxerjk3.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdinfotsmuxerjk3.png)

You don't need to write a command line since TSMuxer has a Gui.
As you see, when you upload the mpls and select the tracs, no need to input the track numbers manually.

That sample includes multiple m2ts files:

1) 00056.mpls, 2:17:14
[0+2+6+8+9+12+13+15+16+19+20+21+24+25+26+28+118+119+32+33+34+37+39+40+42+43+45+46+49].m2ts

asarian
10th December 2008, 23:37
Look at this:

You don't need to write a command line since TSMuxer has a Gui.

What Rica said. Generally, I totally ignore the meta file: within the GUI you don't need it for anything, really.


That sample includes multiple m2ts files:

1) 00056.mpls, 2:17:14
[0+2+6+8+9+12+13+15+16+19+20+21+24+25+26+28+118+119+32+33+34+37+39+40+42+43+45+46+49].m2ts

'Enchanted', I believe, is equally fragmented as your 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' (?). That happens sometimes. Good thing there's BDInfo and eac3to. :)

mpls is one side of things, of course. The hard part cometh when you gotta deal with the Java based menu stuff on episodic content. Haven't figured that one out yet. I've been reencoding my Macross Frontier BD discs recently, to stick subs under them, and the only way to get the individual episodes, really, is to just split the one big m2ts manually (though chapter time indices can give you some idea as to where the breaks are).

rica
10th December 2008, 23:50
'Enchanted', I believe, is equally fragmented as your 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' (?)

Bingo :)

odin24
10th December 2008, 23:55
... is to just split the one big m2ts manually (though chapter time indices can give you some idea as to where the breaks are).


Just a warning, I've found that the cut feature in tsMuxeR isn't the greatest. A few times I've had to cut the end credits off a feature, mainly due to poor file size calculation when recoding on my part, however when specifying the end cut point it always seem to cut just a little too much, even into the movie, no matter if I specify milliseconds or minutes. If I under-cut it doesn't cut enough... oh well.

The split feature seems to work fine, when splitting in the middle of a feature it splits at the exact point given. I have had no issues so far.

asarian
11th December 2008, 00:16
Just a warning, I've found that the cut feature in tsMuxeR isn't the greatest. A few times I've had to cut the end credits off a feature, mainly due to poor file size calculation when recoding on my part, however when specifying the end cut point it always seem to cut just a little too much, even into the movie, no matter if I specify milliseconds or minutes. If I under-cut it doesn't cut enough... oh well.

The split feature seems to work fine, when splitting in the middle of a feature it splits at the exact point given. I have had no issues so far.

Yeah, I noticed that. Fortunately, I had about 1 or 2 seconds or so between episodes (which is an eternity, of course, at that level). So I just needed to fiddle around a bit with AEgisub to resync the subtitles.

rica
11th December 2008, 00:38
Cutting in seconds gives better results.
If you wanna split you can use DGSplit as well.

BTW, Subtitle Workshop is the best tool if you live sync issues with subs.

ExSport
11th December 2008, 02:17
Hi all
Please it is possible to add more titles when creating Blu-Ray structure? I need to create 1 BD-R with 3 titles of Planet Earth but don't want to join(append) them together as one (seamless)part.
It is because of that I added one another audio and 2 subtitles to every title. Don't know what it do with audio synchronization and switchable subtitles(2 languages for every part)
Exist some programs which can create simple MENU or is it possible to do it with help of TsMuxeR/BDEdit etc.?
With TsMuxeR I mean to create 1 chapter for every title/part, although without menu. But better to create menu and then switch to every part independentely and for every part to have own chapters, 2 audios and 2 subtitles.
Is this my thought somehow possible?
Many thanks for answer.
P.S.
If new NERO is able to create blu-ray menu, I don't think that I will not loose subtitle support on m2ts files created with TSmuxeR:-(

rica
11th December 2008, 02:39
No, afaik
If someone says "yes", i really would like to know.

ggking7
11th December 2008, 03:23
You don't need to write a command line since TSMuxer has a Gui.

Yes but the GUI doesn't work via wine on Linux, so I'm still wondering which m2ts file to specify when I need many of them to be included via the mpls. Also the track number. Since the GUI doesn't work via wine, I have no idea how to specify a track number.

odin24
11th December 2008, 04:20
Here is what the META file from a seamless branching title looks like, it contains and h264 video stream, a TrueHD track (down to AC3) and one sub stream. Looks pretty complicated to me.

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, mplsFile=00150
A_AC3, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", down-to-ac3, track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00150
#A_AC3, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng, mplsFile=00150
#A_AC3, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", track=4354, lang=fra, mplsFile=00150
#A_AC3, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", track=4355, lang=spa, mplsFile=00150
#A_AC3, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", track=4356, lang=eng, mplsFile=00150
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=eng, mplsFile=00150
#S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=fra, mplsFile=00150
#S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=spa, mplsFile=00150
#S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=fra, mplsFile=00150
#S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4612, lang=spa, mplsFile=00150
#S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00120.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00418.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00122.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00419.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00124.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00420.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00126.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00421.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00128.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00130.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00422.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00132.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00423.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00134.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00424.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00136.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00425.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00138.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00426.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00140.m2ts"+"F:\BDMV\STREAM\00429.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4613, lang=eng, mplsFile=00150


In order to find out what MLPS was required I used eac3to which can also demux, extract core audio streams, even convert... all without the need for a META file. Once everything is demuxed with eac3to you can remux to m2ts or Blu-ray using tsMuxeR with command line. Just my opinion.

ggking7
11th December 2008, 04:27
Thanks odin24. That is ridiculous. I thought declaring mplsFile negated the need to define each m2ts file. I'm going to keep doing exactly what you suggest: dmuxing with eac3to and muxing with tsmuxer.

odin24
11th December 2008, 05:26
Thanks odin24. That is ridiculous. I thought declaring mplsFile negated the need to define each m2ts file. I'm going to keep doing exactly what you suggest: dmuxing with eac3to and muxing with tsmuxer.

LOL, I thought so. It gets even more complicated if you want to mux to Blu-ray and include chapters.

One other thing to, and not to bash tsMuxeR cause I think it is wonderful. tsMuxeR cannot handle seamless branching titles properly, it cannot fix gap/overlaps at the branching points, whereas eac3to does this without issue. Plus, something that I think is valuable, when demuxing tracks with dialnorm eac3to removes this, tsMuxeR doesn't.

nwg
11th December 2008, 22:39
One other thing to, and not to bash tsMuxeR cause I think it is wonderful. tsMuxeR cannot handle seamless branching titles properly, it cannot fix gap/overlaps at the branching points, whereas eac3to does this without issue. Plus, something that I think is valuable, when demuxing tracks with dialnorm eac3to removes this, tsMuxeR doesn't.

I use Blu-Ray Stream Extractor with Eac3to to do those now. I then extract as a single H264 file which I load into tsMuxer.

Sulimo
14th December 2008, 14:51
I'm having trouble producing m2ts files for my PS3. The resulting files lose audio sync part way through the film.

jdobbs
15th December 2008, 12:34
Not sure if your problem is related, but check and make sure the input stream hasn't been corrupted in the copying process. I've run into this a couple of times and I'm not sure if it is related to AnyDVD or something else. I just know it was fixed when I copied the exact same disc to the exact same subdirectory later.

The way you can see the corruption (at least in my case) is by a gray/blank area that appears just before the sync goes.

Deepstar
15th December 2008, 21:41
Hi,
found a bug in tsmuxer. The Filesize of the m2ts, in the clpi Files are not correct. If you calc by yourself and overwrite it, you have no 3 - 4 sec gaps, if you play a Blu Ray structure on the ps3!

Deepstar

rack04
15th December 2008, 22:11
I have recently begun including b pyramids in my x264 encodes. Should I be worried when tsmuxer states "B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 2 Frames"?

b66pak
16th December 2008, 20:31
@deepstar the problem was discovered here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1206841#post1206841

and a solution + a gui is here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1207707#post1207707
_

Deepstar
16th December 2008, 21:09
No,
fixclpi correct this:

Originally Posted by jdobbs
TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

But not the bug with the incorrect Filesize and the 3 - 4 sec Gap on the ps3.

But I hope jdobbs can fix ths too. I know how to fix it with a hexeditor.
And it worked!

jdobbs
16th December 2008, 21:47
Describe how to fix it with a hexeditor and I will add it to fixclpi. I don't have a PS3, is this something that happens all the time?

G_M_C
16th December 2008, 21:57
I have recently begun including b pyramids in my x264 encodes. Should I be worried when tsmuxer states "B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 2 Frames"?

Nope, dont think so ... at least I haven't mind it at all, and my discs play fine :)

Deepstar
16th December 2008, 22:14
Hi,
jdobbs

Here it is

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1224939#post1224939

Deepstar
16th December 2008, 22:34
These 3 - 4 sec gap, is always. In transitions of the m2ts Files. If you split, because the 4GB on FAT 32.

jdobbs
16th December 2008, 23:27
Ok. I see. That's the number of source packets in the ClipInfo table. I never noticed TSMUXER set it incorrectly... I'll look at some of my sources and see if it consistently sets it wrong. If so, I'll update fixclpi to correct it.

jdobbs
17th December 2008, 01:13
@Deepstar

Good find. I'm seeing the packet count consistently wrong. Interestingly, this may be the source of a problem I've been chasing in BD Rebuilder related to the move between M2TS files (for angles).

I'll update FIXCLPI to correct that error as well and post it again. You should see it tomorrow. Anything else I should add? Does it need to correct more than one CLPI? I think I'll make it so that if you point to a directory it will find the BDMV, CLIPINF, and STREAM folders and correct all the CLPI files in .

Deepstar
17th December 2008, 09:52
Yes, all clpi Files must be corrected.

I think I'll make it so that if you point to a directory it will find the BDMV, CLIPINF, and STREAM folders and correct all the CLPI files in.

Just as you say
:thanks:

G_M_C
17th December 2008, 10:13
@Deepstar

G[...] Does it need to correct more than one CLPI? I think I'll make it so that if you point to a directory it will find the BDMV, CLIPINF, and STREAM folders and correct all the CLPI files in .

That would be very nice. I've got some BD, where i've split he stream in manageable packets, then i found that I had to run FixCLPI multiple times cause it didn't accept wildcards (* or ?) in the filename. Also, i had to do the same thing for the backup Clipinf directory.

The change you suggest is even better; Let fixCLPI find the .cpli's itself in the directory (should end up with 2 dirs where the .clpi's are located).

idbirch2
17th December 2008, 15:19
Wow! Fixing the huge pause at .m2ts transition points will be great, can't wait for the new version. Thanks jdobbs and of course Deepstar for discovering the bug!

G_M_C
17th December 2008, 21:03
Hmm, just used fixclpi on a project (used it on both the clpi-dir and the \backup\clpi-dir) and it caused the disc not to play.

My player loads and reads the disc, and then starts (display says "PLAY"), and after 1 second it stops like it's finished (displays says "STOP"). No way to run the disc another way through menu, direct chapter selection or so, it just starts and immediately stops again. Have no clue what the problem could be.

Discs run fine when i dont use fixclpi.

jdobbs
17th December 2008, 21:41
Of course there's always the chance that there is a bug... but my opinion: Either something else is wrong or the player has an issue. I'd look elsewhere. If you saw how little the change really affects you'd know why I have doubts. In fact -- the corrected table likely isn't even referenced until you do a FF/REW or Chapter jump action. It's more likely a media issue.

On my Sony Player I've done over a hundred BD backups now in testing BD Rebuilder with the table corrected in all of them... no issues.

odin24
17th December 2008, 21:46
jdobbs, I posted this in the other "AVCHD-ME & tsMuxeR" thread. This is also for those not following it.

I applied the proper file sizes using a hex editor to the CLPI files (I left the BACKUP CLPIs untouched) and there was no pause between the m2ts branches). FF/RW seem to work fine too, however I was not to concerned with that.

Hopefully this help if you decide to update "fixclpi".

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1225282#post1225282

MadMonkey57
17th December 2008, 23:18
Hmm, just used fixclpi on a project (used it on both the clpi-dir and the \backup\clpi-dir) and it caused the disc not to play.

My player loads and reads the disc, and then starts (display says "PLAY"), and after 1 second it stops like it's finished (displays says "STOP"). No way to run the disc another way through menu, direct chapter selection or so, it just starts and immediately stops again. Have no clue what the problem could be.

Discs run fine when i dont use fixclpi.

I have the exact same behaviour with my Panasonic BD35... I still suspect the player though because i have some other problems with it : Playing BD5 / AVCHD authored by Adobe Encore CS4... playing BD5 with the "force subtitle on" command...

EDIT : Just updated to the latest firmware but no improvement...

odin24
18th December 2008, 00:31
Would fixing only the one CLPI dir, leaving the BACKUP make a difference?

G_M_C
18th December 2008, 09:50
Of course there's always the chance that there is a bug... but my opinion: Either something else is wrong or the player has an issue. I'd look elsewhere. If you saw how little the change really affects you'd know why I have doubts. In fact -- the corrected table likely isn't even referenced until you do a FF/REW or Chapter jump action. It's more likely a media issue.
[...]


Uncorrected BD's play fine, no problems with fforward / reverse and/or chapter jumps. Corrected discs don't play at all. I used the same madia (DVD-RW) to burn the uncorrected version, and it played fine.

It might work after the fix for the file-size is added ? But for now i wont be using fixclpi.

PS: Note also that all my uncorrected discs also play fine on my friends EU PS3.

Would fixing only the one CLPI dir, leaving the BACKUP make a difference?

Yes it would, cause the player would find the first clpi not-functional, and try to work from the uncorrected backup. The result would be the same as not correcting te clpi in the first place (since the player works from the uncorrected backup).

BZeeme
18th December 2008, 10:29
Would fixing only the one CLPI dir, leaving the BACKUP make a difference?

When fixclpi first came out, I had this problem on my Panasonic BD30. If I used fixclpi on only the CLIPINF folder, it works. If I use fixclpi on the backup folder CLIPINF folder also, the disc will not play.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209851#post1209851

idbirch2
18th December 2008, 11:22
I run fixclpi on all my authored BDs and they all play fine on my PS3. I don't patch anything in the BACKUP folder though.

jdobbs
18th December 2008, 14:58
When fixclpi first came out, I had this problem on my Panasonic BD30. If I used fixclpi on only the CLIPINF folder, it works. If I use fixclpi on the backup folder CLIPINF folder also, the disc will not play.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209851#post1209851Hmmm.... that's interesting. Odd, but interesting. In my tests I fix the one in the CLIPINF folder and then copy it to the backup.

G_M_C
18th December 2008, 15:05
[...]my tests I fix the one in the CLIPINF folder and then copy it to the backup.

I'll test that method too, and see if it makes a difference.

odin24
18th December 2008, 15:50
It seems as though it might be the player, and not necessarily the way the clpi's are fixed. It could also have to do with the way the DVD5s and 9s are encoded. I know the PS3 can handle almost anything thrown at it (BD encodes) as opposed to other standalones where it has some issues with how the max bitrate and buffer sizes are set... lowering these values to ~15mb/s as opposed to 30mb/s has helped. Maybe that along with a properly fixed clpi would do the trick.

G_M_C
18th December 2008, 16:01
It seems as though it might be the player, and not necessarily the way the clpi's are fixed. It could also have to do with the way the DVD5s and 9s are encoded. I know the PS3 can handle almost anything thrown at it (BD encodes) as opposed to other standalones where it has some issues with how the max bitrate and buffer sizes are set... lowering these values to ~15mb/s as opposed to 30mb/s has helped. Maybe that along with a properly fixed clpi would do the trick.

I my case thats not the problem (see my post history for reference on all the many posts i made concerning encoding). The proof lies in the fact that an uncorrected disc plays fine, fforward/reverse chapter jumping etc. all work fine !

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 18:16
Would fixing only the one CLPI dir, leaving the BACKUP make a difference?

When fixclpi first came out, I had this problem on my Panasonic BD30. If I used fixclpi on only the CLIPINF folder, it works. If I use fixclpi on the backup folder CLIPINF folder also, the disc will not play.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209851#post1209851

Hmmm.... that's interesting. Odd, but interesting. In my tests I fix the one in the CLIPINF folder and then copy it to the backup.

I'll test that method too, and see if it makes a difference.

Well... so far, I did what jdobbs did... fixclpi CLIPINF dir and then copied the patched *.clpi over to BACKUP dir... I don't believe that fixclpi handles *.clpi in CLIPINF differently than *.clpi in BACKUP (hence jdobbs doing the copy thing), correct me if I'm wrong jdobbs...

Never tried with unpatched *.clpi in BACKUP because in my opinion it wouldn't have made much sense... (what is the real purpose of the BACKUP dir anyway ???)

I'll give it a try though and let you guys know about it.

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 18:20
I my case thats not the problem (see my post history for reference on all the many posts i made concerning encoding). The proof lies in the fact that an uncorrected disc plays fine, fforward/reverse chapter jumping etc. all work fine !

I've had the same experiences as yours... Un-clpifixed BD5s work fine on my BD35... This is so confusing...

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 19:54
Here are the results of a few more tests regarding fixclpi on my BD35 :

- tsmuxer only : plays fine, chapter seeking is fine, fast forward / rewind is fine
- tsmuxer on CLIPINF then copy patched file over to BACKUP/CLIPINF : doesn't play at all
- tsmuxer on CLIPINF (BACKUP/CLIPINF untouched) : plays fine, chapter seeking is fine, but fast forward / rewind is not working anymore (pressing the button doesn't have any effect at all)...

What is the purpose of the BACKUP dir ?
And what is the logic of the BD player when a disc is inserted ? (what files are read, what sequence, what checks, ...)

In addition, the fact that fast forward / rewind doesn't work anymore after applying fixclpi might indicate a bug in fixclpi. Just an assumption though...

jdobbs
18th December 2008, 19:59
Well, maybe -- except for the fact that it only happens on the Panasonic BD30 or BD35... on others (apparently the PS3 and definitely my Sony BDP301) it fixes the FF/REW problem. Am I wrong in that?

G_M_C
18th December 2008, 20:10
Well, maybe -- except for the fact that it only happens on the Panasonic BD30 or BD35... on others (apparently the PS3 and definitely my Sony BDP301) it fixes the FF/REW problem. Am I wrong in that?

Simply ticking the framerate option in tsMuxeR "ON" (without actually changing it, cause it is usually the correct rate) works fine in solving the fforward/reverse problem. No fixclpi needed.

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 20:20
Well, maybe -- except for the fact that it only happens on the Panasonic BD30 or BD35... on others (apparently the PS3 and definitely my Sony BDP301) it fixes the FF/REW problem. Am I wrong in that?

Yeah I forgot that...

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the things we can't explain yet end up being specific to the BD30/BD35 (or their current firmware)...

The thing is that most of the testers here report for their PS3 (probably a bit careless about compliancy) and the BD30/35 (apparently a bit "fancy" about compliancy).

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 20:25
Simply ticking the framerate option in tsMuxeR "ON" (without actually changing it, cause it is usually the correct rate) works fine in solving the fforward/reverse problem. No fixclpi needed.

For all my muxings, i've been ticking both checkboxes (fps and level). I'll try with both unchecked (which is the default by the way) to see if that teaches us something...

odin24
18th December 2008, 20:31
A bit of information for testing purposes.

AVCHD-ME used on a full BD rip (muxed by tsMuxeR), applied the correct file sizes using a hex editor split to 6 4gb chunks. Subs were also enabled automatically using MadMonkey's instructions (BDEdit).

Video=h264
Audio=DTS HD-MA
Subs = Sup

-Applied proper file sizes to all 6 CLPIs (left the BACKUP untouched).
-Did not apply fixclpi.exe
-Playback was on my PS3 using a 320GB external drive with a 50GB FAT32 partition. AVCHD dir was on the FAT32 partition obviously.

Results.

-No pauses between any of the seamless branches.
-FF/RW worked, however took a few seconds to start seeking and resume playing, tested up to 30x.
-Subs played automatically.

Hope this helps.

MadMonkey57
18th December 2008, 21:15
For all my muxings, i've been ticking both checkboxes (fps and level). I'll try with both unchecked (which is the default by the way) to see if that teaches us something...

Well, chapter seeking, F-FORW/REW all work fine on BD35 with both fps and level checkboxes left unchecked on tsmuxer...

To sum it up with the BD35 :

- it plays tsmuxer's output rather well
- if I patch the output with the "Force subtitle ON" command, the BD5 can't play at all
- if I apply fixclpi on CLIPINF and copy patched file over to BACKUP/CLIPINF, the BD5 can't play at all
- if I apply fixclpi on CLIPINF and leave BACKUP/CLIPINF untouched, I loose F-FOR/REW functionalities

This is nonsense...

jdobbs
18th December 2008, 21:50
Simply ticking the framerate option in tsMuxeR "ON" (without actually changing it, cause it is usually the correct rate) works fine in solving the fforward/reverse problem. No fixclpi needed.Maybe in your case -- but not in mine. The FF/REW screws up big time no matter whether I set the framerate option on or off. The most annoying is when you are rewinding and when you reach a point at which one of the COARSE entries was wrong it suddenly starts fast forwarding -- making it impossible to rewind beyond that point. This was the hint that led me to looking at the tables and finding the problem.

viper9092
19th December 2008, 03:04
I sometimes get an error and TSmuxer wont allow me to open any files - error message keeps popping up "Can't find tsMuxeR or depended library" and "can't detect stream type". Sometimes if I delete and redownload it, it will work again. Sometimes I have to restart my computer. I tried searching the forum but couldn't find any answers. Any help or ideas or help??

n0mag!c
20th December 2008, 11:28
I'm seeing the packet count consistently wrong. Interestingly, this may be the source of a problem I've been chasing in BD Rebuilder related to the move between M2TS files (for angles).
I'll update FIXCLPI to correct that error as well and post it again. You should see it tomorrow. Anything else I should add? Does it need to correct more than one CLPI? I think I'll make it so that if you point to a directory it will find the BDMV, CLIPINF, and STREAM folders and correct all the CLPI files in .
We're still waiting for your update! One clpi file correction will be OK, we can use simple .bat file instead:

fixallcl.bat:

rem BACK UP
for %%i in (BDMV\CLIPINF\*.clpi) do copy /y %%i %%i.bak

rem FIX ALL
for %%i in (BDMV\CLIPINF\*.clpi) do fixclpi %%i

rem COPY
cd BDMV
for %%i in (CLIPINF\*.clpi) do copy /y %%i BACKUP\%%i
cd ..

idbirch2
20th December 2008, 15:33
jdobbs may well still come along with another fix for this but in the mean-time, I have released a new version of AVCHDME which will make the necessary hex corrections for you. This incorporates the renaming features of the old AVCHDMe with the new clpi fixes. Jdobbs' fixclpi is also automatically applied to each .clpi file.

AVCHDMe only corrects the main CLPI folder, it does not touch the BACKUP folder. It will work on freshly created AVCHD folders or on ones that have already had the old AVCHDMe run on them.

Unlike the previous version, you do not have to place this in the root of your AVCHD folder, it can be run from anywhere, you just have to point it at your BDMV folder. Download here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nqgozywoir1). Enjoy.

Edit: Thread dedicated to new version: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143631

hm
20th December 2008, 16:42
I have tried looking for the reason why I am unable to get subtitles visible on my PS3 here but cannot find an answer.
When I use tsmuxer on an MKV file and mux it to m2ts I can see the subtitles file next to the video and voice stream
but when I stream it to my PS3 it always tells me that there are no subtitles available.(TwonkyMedia)
When I input the m2ts file in tsmuxer again I see the subtitles: codec PGS, lang: ENG, track info: Presentation Graphic stream#0
What's wrong ? I use version 1.8.8 because I thought maybe 1.8.4 was not good....
Anyone?

idbirch2
20th December 2008, 17:00
You can't use subs when streaming to a PS3, the only way to gets subs working is to choose "BluRay Disc" as your output format in TSMuxer, making sure you select the option to split files every 4GB. Rename the files to 8.3 standard using AVCHD-Me or similar then fix the clpi files with AVCHD-Me2 or similar. Now copy your BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders into a directory called AVCHD on a USB storage device. Plug the USB device into your PS3 and play. Using this method, you also get the benefit of being able to keep HD audio which also isn't supported when streaming.

If you need more help, there's a massive thread dedicated to this method here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138079).

hm
20th December 2008, 17:17
Thanks !
I am new to this and was overwhelmed with the amount of information and couldn't really find the right thread.
I am still confused with your answer because many of the tech. explanation is abacradabra but I will read the other thread you told me to read.

n0mag!c
20th December 2008, 17:43
Now copy your BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders into a directory called AVCHD on a USB storage device.
We don't really need "CERTIFICATE" folder, don't we?

idbirch2
20th December 2008, 17:52
Never tried without, maybe not.

n0mag!c
20th December 2008, 18:16
Never tried without, maybe not.
I've never copied it and everything worked fine.

idbirch2
20th December 2008, 18:46
Ah, well you learn something new every day.

I've made another new version of AVCHDMe, it now incorporates the features of both versions. Once you have browsed to your BDMV folder, you will be shown a table which contains the filesize of each .m2ts file as reported in the .clpi file, the actual filesize, whether or not filenames are in the 8.3 format and if the folder is currently PS3 compatible.

Depending on what needs fixing, neither, one or both of the checkboxes will be checked to fix whatever is wrong. Once the fixes are applied, the BDMV folder is scanned again and the table updated. You can download the new version here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nqgozywoir1).

Screenshot (click to enlarge):

http://thumbnails6.imagebam.com/2144/94ac2321433764.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/94ac2321433764)

jdobbs
20th December 2008, 23:18
We're still waiting for your update!I'm trying to see if I can find anything unusual about the fix that causes problems in the BD30 and BD35. But I've gone through about 20 examples and I can' see an issue. I'd feel a lot better if I actually did find something -- but I'm still leaning toward a firmware issue.

Odd, though, that is works before the patch... especially since the table really shouldn't have that kind of affect.

nosnoop
21st December 2008, 07:48
the only way to gets subs working is to choose "BluRay Disc" as your output format in TSMuxer, making sure you select the option to split files every 4GB.

It is not that simple, unfortunately. The above only works if your video is exactly 1920x1080 or 1280x720, otherwise, you will get a green bar under the video. So if your video is not of the correct resolution, you will need to re-encode them to specs (it will take a long time depending on your PC), then use tsMuxeR to remux them in to Blu-Ray or AVCHD format.

n0mag!c
21st December 2008, 10:43
Ah, well you learn something new every day.
So can I learn why exactly CERTIFICATE folder is needed for, if you can't learn that it's not needed. :)

idbirch2
21st December 2008, 11:45
It is not that simple, unfortunately. The above only works if your video is exactly 1920x1080 or 1280x720, otherwise, you will get a green bar under the video. So if your video is not of the correct resolution, you will need to re-encode them to specs (it will take a long time depending on your PC), then use tsMuxeR to remux them in to Blu-Ray or AVCHD format.

Yes, my instructions were based on the assumption that your source is a BD Disc or full BD rip.

So can I learn why exactly CERTIFICATE folder is needed for, if you can't learn that it's not needed.

Sorry, I've caused confusion by using an English turn of phrase there. When I said "you learn something new every day", I was in fact referring to myself so I meant "I have learnt something new today".

tyee
22nd December 2008, 00:31
@idbirch2
Is it possible to make your AVCHD_Me app able to accept drag and drop from explorer (or any file manager) the BDMV folder. Navigating to that folder is a pain, don't you find that too? Even making it able to accept a paste from the clipboard doesn't work as of now. That would be just as good!

idbirch2
22nd December 2008, 01:09
If I get some spare time to do more work on it, I'll look at implementing your suggestions. AVCHD creation is already a major ballache though, the selection of the BDMV folder in AVCHDMe seems trivial. At the moment, what I make an AVCHD I have to:

1) Run TSMuxer, splitting every 4GB
2) Run jdobbs' fixclpi.exe on each .clpi file
3) Run AVCHDMe to correct filenames and do other .clpi fix
4) (If necessary) use BDEdit to enable a subtitle stream by default
5) Create image in ImgBurn and burn

Plus, I'm hoping that with the new version of TSMuxer, all this becomes irrelevant.

tyee
22nd December 2008, 02:04
I do steps 1 and 3 then copy to ext usb hdd and play from there.

I tried the latest version of tsMuxer recently (Ver.188) so I could try to get subtitles working on a foreign language movie and that version worked when played from usb hdd from avchd folder!

Version 184 did NOT make working subtitles though, only Version 188!!

idbirch2
22nd December 2008, 08:20
Yeah, subs always work OK but are not always enabled by default. If you don't want to have to remember to enable the subs at the start of the movie, you need to use BDEdit.

Octo-puss
22nd December 2008, 13:45
I tried the latest version of tsMuxer recently (Ver.188)

Huh? Where did you get that from?

MadMonkey57
22nd December 2008, 14:25
Huh? Where did you get that from?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1188709#post1188709

It's too bad roman76r is not available to update the first post... Maybe a MOD can (I don't know if that's common practise though...).

BZeeme
23rd December 2008, 11:36
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1188709#post1188709

It's too bad roman76r is not available to update the first post... Maybe a MOD can (I don't know if that's common practise though...).

Also:

Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

Butterfly666
24th December 2008, 12:20
Hello all,

Is it possible to put shadows on subtitles with a configruation in Tsmuxer? The subtitles are hard to read in white scenes.

Please someone?

deank
24th December 2008, 12:31
You can put higher value for Border.

Additional border, pixels: 4

I use 4 pixels and subtitles are pretty nice.

Use: Arial (Bold)
Size: 60 (for 720p) or 80 (for 1080p)
Bottom offset: 55 (for 720p) or 82 (for 1080p)

G_M_C
24th December 2008, 14:30
Its good to expiriment with subs;

I try to put them outside of the video-frame whenever 2.40:1 material is available. To still be readable, i use a font that's larger by default. It also might be different for different screensizes, or viewing distance.

Font: Verdana
Size 1080p => 65/66px, 2/3px border (total=68px), bottom offset=24px
Size 720p => 42/43px, 2/3px border (total=45px), bottom offset=16px.

All my material is viewed on a Panasonic 42pz85 @ full HD (scaled to 1080p by Onkyo TX SR875 if needed) from a distance of 10 ~ 12 feet or so.

Butterfly666
24th December 2008, 14:32
You can put higher value for Border.

Additional border, pixels: 4

I use 4 pixels and subtitles are pretty nice.

:thanks: I will try tonight...

MadMonkey57
24th December 2008, 15:08
My settings are :

720p:
- Fonts: arial
- Size: 45
- Offset from botton : 30


1080p:
- Fonts: arial
- Size: 60
- Offset from botton : 40

52" Sony LCD, played (and scaled) by the Panasonic DMP-BD35. Usually fits in the "bottom black border".

viper9092
25th December 2008, 15:52
I sometimes get an error and TSmuxer wont allow me to open any files - error message keeps popping up "Can't find tsMuxeR or depended library" and "can't detect stream type". Sometimes if I delete and redownload it, it will work again. Sometimes I have to restart my computer. I tried searching the forum but couldn't find any answers. Any help or ideas or help??

Didn't want this question to get lost a few pages back. Still having this problem. Any suggestions?

MadMonkey57
25th December 2008, 17:15
My first though is that it sounds OS related...

GreenOnyx
26th December 2008, 03:32
I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."

ACook
26th December 2008, 08:06
This great tool finally let me fix the bbcHD streams I've recorded recently that I couldn't get the AC3 out of with TSplayer, wich still works fine on older caps. BBC must've changed something, cause I hadn't.

My question is what does Use async I/O mean?

deank
26th December 2008, 09:40
It is a parameter, that doesn't affect the final results, but the way files are handled (read/written) by tsMuxer. Faster performance is usually achieved with async i/o checked.

White Knite GTP
26th December 2008, 16:23
I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."

I too received this message recently on 2 discs. I tried to narrow it down between video file, audio files and PGS. I ran all three instances individually. It only happens on the video file with the audio. Individually each worked fine.

Any ideas, as for the Blu-ray discs they were I don't remember, but next time it happens I will note which one it was.

GreenOnyx
26th December 2008, 16:28
I too received this message recently on 2 discs. I tried to narrow it down between video file, audio files and PGS. I ran all three instances individually. It only happens on the video file with the audio. Individually each worked fine.

Any ideas, as for the Blu-ray discs they were I don't remember, but next time it happens I will note which one it was.

Thanks for the info, my guess is that we're out of luck since the error is so generic. The disc I was working with was the movie Troy for anyone able to troubleshoot this more.

ggking7
26th December 2008, 16:30
Can tsmuxer be used entirely from the command line to avoid editing a .meta file for each video?

jdobbs
26th December 2008, 17:23
Can tsmuxer be used entirely from the command line to avoid editing a .meta file for each video?Yes. If you know the syntax for the .META you don't need to run the GUI... but then in most circumstances you also need to know how to read an MPLS and CLPI. The command line and META syntax are in a sticky in this thread.

DIVX2009
29th December 2008, 12:27
Plz. add suport for Latin_2 subtitle!!!
tks.

asarian
29th December 2008, 14:42
I have tried looking for the reason why I am unable to get subtitles visible on my PS3 here but cannot find an answer.
When I use tsmuxer on an MKV file and mux it to m2ts I can see the subtitles file next to the video and voice stream
but when I stream it to my PS3 it always tells me that there are no subtitles available.(TwonkyMedia)
When I input the m2ts file in tsmuxer again I see the subtitles: codec PGS, lang: ENG, track info: Presentation Graphic stream#0
What's wrong ? I use version 1.8.8 because I thought maybe 1.8.4 was not good....
Anyone?

For streaming + subtitles, you may also want to have a look here:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/ps3-media-streaming/854635-new-media-server-ps3.html

ggking7
30th December 2008, 02:57
Can tsmuxer be used entirely from the command line to avoid editing a .meta file for each video?
Yes. If you know the syntax for the .META you don't need to run the GUI... but then in most circumstances you also need to know how to read an MPLS and CLPI. The command line and META syntax are in a sticky in this thread.

I've been over this extensively:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559

and I'm happily using the command line + META file procedure, but I'm wondering if there is a way to specify all necessary information right on the command line and not use a META file at all.

zomorf
30th December 2008, 05:22
When using the tsmuxer option "Restricted VBR" if I put in the values Max=20000 - Min=0 I sometimes get the following errors.
VBV buffer overflow at position x.xxx
1) Does this effect the movie in anyway?
2) Does it drop the actual Frame?
3) And is this like an encoding/shrinking method for a movie?
4) would VC1 or AVC video make any difference?
I have 1 movie Shooter that without compression the Video bitrate is around 22.8mb which gives it a slight stutter... I have other movies The Bourne collection which come in under 19mb bitrate and it seems to play nicely so I'm trying to stay under 20mb for a bitrate. The movies are from original hd-dvd I'm just remuxing them into .ts or m2ts format so my dvico 6500 player can play them over a 1g network...

Thanking you in advance

mochevolete
1st January 2009, 20:03
Hi, I'm stripping down a BR with a True-HD track in it, unfortuantely with TSmuxeR I have no sound at all, and with TSremux I have a lot of "snap crackle 'n pop", how can I include the THD track in the BR ?

thanks, Nik

idbirch2
1st January 2009, 20:17
TSMuxer's TrueHD muxing is broken for now so that won't work but TSRemux should be able to handle it fine. You are definitely running the latest version? And what are you playing the resulting BD on when you hear the crackling? Standalone? Software player? Maybe the problem is the player, not TSRemux?

mochevolete
1st January 2009, 21:01
thanks for reply,
yes, tsremux is the latest 0212, at first I tried to play the BR from a local folder with TMT, then I tried to extract, from the original disc, not from the extracted folder, the THD track with eac3to saving it as .thd file and then playing it through MPC-HC, but even there it crackles a lot, so maybe this prooves that the problem is elsewhere ... :(

cavediver
2nd January 2009, 04:02
thanks for reply,
yes, tsremux is the latest 0212, at first I tried to play the BR from a local folder with TMT, then I tried to extract, from the original disc, not from the extracted folder, the THD track with eac3to saving it as .thd file and then playing it through MPC-HC, but even there it crackles a lot, so maybe this prooves that the problem is elsewhere ... :(

The latest version of tsremux is version 0.8.2.0 and its been renamed to Ts4Np and it actually works on TrueHD.

mochevolete
2nd January 2009, 09:18
The latest version of tsremux is version 0.8.2.0 and its been renamed to Ts4Np and it actually works on TrueHD.
thanks, I didn't know that !

:thanks:

DoomBot
2nd January 2009, 16:18
The latest version of tsremux is version 0.8.2.0 and its been renamed to Ts4Np and it actually works on TrueHD.

Could you post a link to it, i cant seem to find it anywhere?

:thanks:

idbirch2
2nd January 2009, 16:24
You can get it here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AMMQLUS7) or here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1oqyboaumzm).

piratburner
2nd January 2009, 18:01
The latest version of tsremux is version 0.8.2.0 and its been renamed to Ts4Np and it actually works on TrueHD.

Is this also OK for DTS-HD sound ?

idbirch2
2nd January 2009, 18:03
Haven't tried it but if not, TSMuxer works fine with everything except TrueHD.

deank
2nd January 2009, 19:05
... and IGS tracks :)

peterjcat
2nd January 2009, 23:29
When using the tsmuxer option "Restricted VBR" if I put in the values Max=20000 - Min=0 I sometimes get the following errors.
VBV buffer overflow at position x.xxx
1) Does this effect the movie in anyway?
2) Does it drop the actual Frame?
3) And is this like an encoding/shrinking method for a movie?
4) would VC1 or AVC video make any difference?
I have 1 movie Shooter that without compression the Video bitrate is around 22.8mb which gives it a slight stutter... I have other movies The Bourne collection which come in under 19mb bitrate and it seems to play nicely so I'm trying to stay under 20mb for a bitrate. The movies are from original hd-dvd I'm just remuxing them into .ts or m2ts format so my dvico 6500 player can play them over a 1g network...

Thanking you in advance

As far as I can tell the VBR settings can be used to kind of smooth out bitrate to try to keep it under a certain limit, but there's only so much it can do, the maximum buffer is like 1 second so you're going to overrun it all the time and your movie will mess up. In other words the VBR setting is a pretty ineffective way to reduce bitrate. For that you'd need to recode using RipBot or something. It'll take a long time and you'll lose a bit of quality.

A better idea would be to figure out why your 6500 won't play more than 22mbps without stuttering -- my PCH does like 40mbps fine and it's the same chipset (though different software). So you may have a network problem or need a firmware update or something.

mochevolete
3rd January 2009, 10:01
The latest version of tsremux is version 0.8.2.0 and its been renamed to Ts4Np and it actually works on TrueHD.
tried .. but unfortunately it produces the same, corrupted, result with the True-HD track...

idbirch2
3rd January 2009, 11:22
Maybe your TrueHD track is damaged or something. Try running a TrueHD to DTS conversion in eac3to as that's quite sensititve to damaged tracks and will tell you if it is.

zomorf
3rd January 2009, 20:52
As far as I can tell the VBR settings can be used to kind of smooth out bitrate to try to keep it under a certain limit, but there's only so much it can do, the maximum buffer is like 1 second so you're going to overrun it all the time and your movie will mess up. In other words the VBR setting is a pretty ineffective way to reduce bitrate. For that you'd need to recode using RipBot or something. It'll take a long time and you'll lose a bit of quality.

A better idea would be to figure out why your 6500 won't play more than 22mbps without stuttering -- my PCH does like 40mbps fine and it's the same chipset (though different software). So you may have a network problem or need a firmware update or something.

Hi peterjcat,

OK the stuttering maybe be because I'm going through the network... I'll copy it over to the HDD and see how that goes... I'll see what the VBR does and find out if that help if not I'll try ripbot264. Many thanks for your reply.

nekrosoft13
4th January 2009, 01:28
maybe someone can help me fix AC3 file?

this AC3 file is from Eurera S02E05 720p MKV file, i need to convert this file to TS, but audio seems to be the problem.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S9Y98X4V

tsremuxer won't accept it, anyone know how to fix this audio file

idbirch2
4th January 2009, 01:30
I usually find that when TSMuxer doesn't accept an ac3 track, it's because there's still a split second at the start of the track that's only 2.0ch and then it flicks to 5.1. TSMuxer can't handle this so simply use DelayCut or other AC3 cutting tool to chop off any 2.0ch frames from the start of the file.

nekrosoft13
4th January 2009, 01:34
hmm, but how do i know how much to cut off?

idbirch2
4th January 2009, 01:41
Run delaycut on the file and you will see, it will tell you in the log pane.

nekrosoft13
4th January 2009, 01:47
[Input info]
Bitrate=384
Actual rate=384.000000
Sampling Frec=48000
TotalFrames=75971
Bytesperframe=1536.0000
Filesize=116691456
FrameDuration= 32.0000
Framespersecond= 31.2500
Duration=00:40:31.072
Channels mode=2/0: L+R
LFE=LFE: Not present
[Target info]
StartFrame=0
EndFrame=75970
NotFixedDelay= 0.0000
Duration=00:40:31.072
====== PROCESSING LOG ======================
Time 00:00:00.192; Frame#= 7. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #1 and this frame
Time 00:07:09.856; Frame#= 13434. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #7 and this frame
Time 00:07:10.048; Frame#= 13440. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #13434 and this frame
Time 00:23:04.736; Frame#= 43274. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #13440 and this frame
Time 00:23:04.992; Frame#= 43282. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #43274 and this frame
Time 00:35:44.064; Frame#= 67003. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #43282 and this frame
Time 00:35:44.320; Frame#= 67011. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #67003 and this frame
Number of written frames = 75971
Number of Errors= 7


would that be the first error?
Time 00:00:00.192

idbirch2
4th January 2009, 02:38
Correct, chop 192ms from the start. I don't know if there is a better way to do it but in order to workout the endpoint, I currently take the total duration of the clip as displayed in DelayCut and convert it to seconds, multiply by 1000 and add any remaining 1000ths, this gives you your end cut point (i.e. don't cut anything from the end). So in your case, 40x60+31x1000+72=2431072.

Dont forget to enter a delay of 192ms in TSMuxer when you remux it.

nekrosoft13
4th January 2009, 03:43
thank you, that worked perfectly

Selur
4th January 2009, 14:42
Is there a way to remux via command line with tsmuxer without the need to create a .meta file?
(I know it's possible to first analyse the input with tsmuxer, manually create a .meta file and then multiplex.)

Cu Selur

microchip8
4th January 2009, 16:15
Is there a way to remux via command line with tsmuxer without the need to create a .meta file?
(I know it's possible to first analyse the input with tsmuxer, manually create a .meta file and then multiplex.)

Cu Selur

no, tsmuxer always requires a meta file

mikelebron
4th January 2009, 22:28
does tsmuxer support LPCM? I tried underworld evolution and no sound came out... it seems it never included the LPCM track even though it was selected.. any ideas?

idbirch2
4th January 2009, 23:35
Yes, I've muxed many movies with PCM using TSMuxer.

mikelebron
5th January 2009, 00:28
Yes, I've muxed many movies with PCM using TSMuxer.

Well.. when LPCM is the only audio track it DOES NOT remux it..

Can someone confirm with out including the AC3 track that LPCM is remuxed?

asarian
5th January 2009, 00:36
Well.. when LPCM is the only audio track it DOES NOT remux it..

Can someone confirm with out including the AC3 track that LPCM is remuxed?

Not sure what you mean precisely by not remuxing when LPCM is the only audio track; but I've used Pcm2Tsmu several times already (first using eac3to to convert TrueHD/DTS-MA to LPCM, and then to an input format tsMuxeR can use), and tsMuxeR always properly muxes the new LPCM track along with the video.

idbirch2
5th January 2009, 00:44
I have to insist that PCM works fine with TSMuxer, whether it is the only audio track or not. You are using the latest version I assume (1.8.8)? You need to explain a bit more about where your actual problem lies, you haven't made it clear whether TSMuxer fails to actually produce an output or whether your output doesn't have any audio when you play it. If you're playing it, what are you playing it on? Come on, throw us a bone.

mikelebron
5th January 2009, 01:51
OK... just to give you an update... sorry for the fuss but its not a TSMuxer issue its a PowerDVD issue. Seems PowerDVD even though it can play m2ts it will only play AC3 when played as a file.. it will not play the HD audio for some reason when just played as a file, even though its the ONLY audio track.

I remuxed with the same settings to a bluray structure using TSMuxer then created an ISO out of it.. mounted the ISO and played with PowerDVD. LPCM came up and the file played fine...

PowerDVD does not play folder structure for bluray..
PowerDVD will not play the HD audio tracks when playing as a file

Im stuck with as an ISO OR using a different player.. What players do you guys use?

rica
5th January 2009, 01:57
Arcsoft TMT.
But i have never been able to play PCM files directly remuxed by TSMuxer.
You may find a thread started by me on this subject.

asarian
5th January 2009, 03:15
OK... just to give you an update... sorry for the fuss but its not a TSMuxer issue its a PowerDVD issue. Seems PowerDVD even though it can play m2ts it will only play AC3 when played as a file.. it will not play the HD audio for some reason when just played as a file, even though its the ONLY audio track.

I remuxed with the same settings to a bluray structure using TSMuxer then created an ISO out of it.. mounted the ISO and played with PowerDVD. LPCM came up and the file played fine...

PowerDVD does not play folder structure for bluray..
PowerDVD will not play the HD audio tracks when playing as a file

Im stuck with as an ISO OR using a different player.. What players do you guys use?

I'm with Rica on this: use Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre instead.

Arcsoft TMT does play folder structure for bluray..
Arcsoft TMT will play the HD audio tracks when playing as a file.

Besides, you'll want the Arcsoft DTS Decoder (that comes with Arcsoft TMT) for your HD audio conversion anyway.

mikelebron
5th January 2009, 03:47
I'm with Rica on this: use Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre instead.

Arcsoft TMT does play folder structure for bluray..
Arcsoft TMT will play the HD audio tracks when playing as a file.

Besides, you'll want the Arcsoft DTS Decoder (that comes with Arcsoft TMT) for your HD audio conversion anyway.

I tried TMT and it stutters crazy on my machine with .128 and I have no issues with PWRDVD.. My impression is that PWRDVD video quality is much better.. I had a few people watch the same scene using both players.. and PWRDVD won out...

Im OK with using the ISO structure until Arcsoft gets their act together..

Also whats your experience remuxing with TrueHD.. whats the best option?

coolalibaba
6th January 2009, 10:28
Hi jdobbs,
thanks for the little fixclpi application but it looks not working perfectly on non-ENU OS. I have to choose English for "Language for non-unicode applications" setting in region and language settings. Otherwise fixclpi will report "overflow" error. The problem is, many of my non-unicode applications can not work with "English". Is that possible to fix that or change the app to unicode?

aba101280
7th January 2009, 16:43
Hi all,

just a quick quesation regarding to elementary VC1 Stream. I demuxed the VCI Video File from a Bluray with the help of EAC3TO (Whole Folder). The Blu-Ray is the Buenos Aires Police Concert (29,9 Frmes). I then wanted to load in the 1.8.8(beta) Muxer but it says: Unsopported Format: Can't detect Stream Type.

Do I have to prepare the VC1 Video File in any way or is there any other Solution.

Thanks in Advance

Alex

hexperience
7th January 2009, 22:02
Getting black screen with this.... I think I tried all the options.

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 9 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 46mn
Nominal bit rate : 9 895 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.269
Title : something
Writing library : x264 core 54 svn-620
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7
/ brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 /
chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 /
b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass /
bitrate=9895 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 /
cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Language : English

Is my only option to re-encode it? This is for PS3, by the way.

odin24
7th January 2009, 23:02
Getting black screen with this.... I think I tried all the options.

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 9 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 46mn
Nominal bit rate : 9 895 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.269
Title : something
Writing library : x264 core 54 svn-620
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7
/ brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 /
chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 /
b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass /
bitrate=9895 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 /
cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Language : English

Is my only option to re-encode it? This is for PS3, by the way.

Yes, too many reference frames. This value should be 4 or lower for 1080p encodes to be compatible with the PS3. Plus, recoding this video will make for a better compatible file for the PS3/standalone (not neccesarily better quality) provided you use a good profile. Might as well add the 280 lines in for the widescreen bars too, this will make a AVCHD/BD compliant video stream.

NSI
8th January 2009, 00:44
hmm, but how do i know how much to cut off?
I use DelayCut in these cases. If you just process the file once without any cut it will tell you there's a change at some timestamp, you cut at that point (it will be a negative cut). I then take that cut file, and uncut (positive) the same amount. The twice cut file will still sync with the video as well as the original.

nwg
8th January 2009, 13:10
What are the visual symptoms of this FF/RW bug.I did both a Blu Ray and a HD DVD to Blu Ray conversion. I corrected the bug with the Fixclpi thing. On playback in a Samsung BDP 1500 it is fine but soon as I RW or FF, the picture splits into two horizontally until I go back to 1x playback.

jocassien
9th January 2009, 11:06
Hi everybody and specially to you Roman for whom I have a question :
I have already used tsMuxeR to successfully remux a silent avc file with its soundtrack trying to recover after an aborted render in Vegas pro8 -to make a long story short my render aborted at 1h15 mns after a power shutdown !
Then I have tried to append this first file (7,3 Go) with another ( 2Go) which is the render of the end of my video, this time successfully rendered to its end in Vegas . The tsmuxer process starts OK but at 72,9% I get the following message "not enough buffer for parse video stream", which means I guess that I am short of virtual memory or of disk space on my system partition (it's 18 Go and XP pro leaves me around 10 Go free on it). I precise that in tsMuxer I have asked the finalized file to be saved on a second hard drive I use only for video files and renders; that disk has more than 300 Go free space.
Do you have an idea what goes wrong ? I can give the following details :
- I have renamed the 2 appended files with an m2v extension; the 1rst and bigger one results from an image-only blu ray render (I was able to recover it under the stream file of the blu ray structure); that's why I got an avc-extension file. For the 2nd I have asked an mpeg2 render with the sony AVC codec
- the soundtrack of the video has been saved as AC3 still in Vegas and it is recognized all right
- I have tried to set the parameters as ts muxing and m2ts muxing with the error message popping at the same place
- I have also tried to remux with another computer disposing of a much larger partition system with the same result
I am afraid of one thing : that my 1rst has not been finalized correctly so that the appending operation can't get to its end.
What do you think of it ? Can you help me save a 33 hrs render :scared:
Many Thanks in advance anyway.

vcarter
12th January 2009, 11:11
hi

sorry if you ever said this a lot of times,but after reading 20 pages,i did not find tha answer.
in tsmuxergui what bitrate must i put to prevent the almost 400 mo that "appears" when i do mkv (exactly the size of a dvd dl) to blu-ray?everyone knows that problem.after using tsmuxergui the file is too big to burn it on a dvd dl.

and what's the best way (easier) to add black border to .264 files?i mean ps3 need 1920*1080 or 1280*720 and not cropped resolutions

sorry for my english.in french forum,these questions appear a lot of time without any pertinent answer.

bye

G_M_C
12th January 2009, 12:38
I thought there would be an update to tsMuxeR in januari. Has anybody heard/read/seen news of this (coming) release yet ?

MadMonkey57
12th January 2009, 13:12
...after using tsmuxergui the file is too big to burn it on a dvd dl...

For short, mkv is a container (like avi, mp4, ...). A container is a way of organizing streams (audio, video, subtitles) so that they can be easily played. Every container adds extra data in addition to the streams themselves. tsmuxer creates a movie based on an m2ts container. m2ts adds an extra 6%-7% to the data streams. That is the reason why your BD output is bigger than the original mkv file.


...and what's the best way (easier) to add black border to .264 files?i mean ps3 need 1920*1080 or 1280*720 and not cropped resolutions...

Your need to reencode the stream at the proper size.


...sorry for my english.in french forum,these questions appear a lot of time without any pertinent answer...

In case of absolute necessity (;)), you can PM me in french.

Butterfly666
12th January 2009, 15:31
I thought there would be an update to tsMuxeR in januari. Has anybody heard/read/seen news of this (coming) release yet ?

I need to know this 2....

jocassien
12th January 2009, 15:58
Sorry to bother you but can anyone answer my trouble ?

Hi everybody and specially to you Roman for whom I have a question :
I have already used tsMuxeR to successfully remux a silent avc file with its soundtrack trying to recover after an aborted render in Vegas pro8 -to make a long story short my render aborted at 1h15 mns after a power shutdown !
Then I have tried to append this first file (7,3 Go) with another ( 2Go) which is the render of the end of my video, this time successfully rendered to its end in Vegas . The tsmuxer process starts OK but at 72,9% I get the following message "not enough buffer for parse video stream", which means I guess that I am short of virtual memory or of disk space on my system partition (it's 18 Go and XP pro leaves me around 10 Go free on it). I precise that in tsMuxer I have asked the finalized file to be saved on a second hard drive I use only for video files and renders; that disk has more than 300 Go free space.
Do you have an idea what goes wrong ? I can give the following details :
- I have renamed the 2 appended files with an m2v extension; the 1rst and bigger one results from an image-only blu ray render (I was able to recover it under the stream file of the blu ray structure); that's why I got an avc-extension file. For the 2nd I have asked an mpeg2 render with the sony AVC codec
- the soundtrack of the video has been saved as AC3 still in Vegas and it is recognized all right
- I have tried to set the parameters as ts muxing and m2ts muxing with the error message popping at the same place
- I have also tried to remux with another computer disposing of a much larger partition system with the same result
I am afraid of one thing : that my 1rst has not been finalized correctly so that the appending operation can't get to its end.
What do you think of it ? Can you help me save a 33 hrs render :scared:
Many Thanks in advance anyway.

Selur
13th January 2009, 19:57
Muxing an .264 (created with x264) using tsmuxer and the following .meta file:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "c:\tmp\test_193002937.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "c:\tmp\00156 DELAY 0ms_193002937.ac3", timeshift=0
the .m2ts file created shows a resolution of 1920x1084p in tsmuxer. (using the GUI and not the command line results in the same output)

-> Where does the 4 come from?

Cu Selur

deank
14th January 2009, 02:02
I doubt it will affect player application, but still... I also had some similar <>1080 outputs (and it is mainly because 1080 is not a multiple of 16) so check your x264 encoding settins.

I use something like:

x264.exe --bitrate 50000 --keyint 25 --min-keyint 1 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 1 --weightb --subme 5 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --qcomp 0.5 --merange 12 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1 --output %1.264 %1

And get 1920x1080 in tsMuxer.

Selur
14th January 2009, 08:44
Input and output resolution used, in x264, was 1920x1080, dgavcdec shows 1920x1080 as resolution for the x264 output.
Thanks, for the info, will try to figure out if this is related to some x264 setting.

Cu Selur

Selur
14th January 2009, 14:08
okay hunted it down :)
if one does not enabled '--8x8dct' tsmuxer creates a 1084 file, as soon as "--8x8dct' is enabled resolution is fine again. :)

ExSport
14th January 2009, 19:26
Your need to reencode the stream at the proper size.

If you will use great app from Deank, then re-encoding is not necessary to be Blu-ray/Avchd compliant.
LINK (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744)

deank
14th January 2009, 19:31
:) If your input files are not AVCHD compatible, multiAVCHD won't fix it. As in this case, 704x... video won't show if processed with multiAVCHD.

ExSport
14th January 2009, 19:42
and what's the best way (easier) to add black border to .264 files?i mean ps3 need 1920*1080 or 1280*720 and not cropped resolutions
Yes Deank I reacted on re-encoding always when video was cropped from Blu-Ray source:-)
Now if video stream is compliant but was cropped to not compliant resolution, your app will do the job!:D
Thanks for it.

deank
14th January 2009, 19:47
Sorry... I thought of another thread :)

kurt
15th January 2009, 13:40
is it possible to mux an mkv with a custom AR to ts/m2ts while respecting this AR value? or is AR flagging not possibel for ts in general? (so to say it's a mkv only feature?)

http://netload.in/dateiIZXcXBtmHl/Sample.mkv.htm

I tried it with this sample but the custom AR is not displayed neither with Popcorn Hour nor in mpc+haali splitter.

If it's not possible then maybe a custom SAR value in x264 bitstream would be successful? can I change the SAR after encoding at all?

background: mkv is parsed in software and L4.1 1080p mkvs tend to stutter via USB on Popcorn Hour in fast motion scenes. A remux to ts solves the problem (it's parsed in hardware --> less cpu activity) but the custom AR is gone...

Selur
16th January 2009, 00:29
Is there some info about .meta files in addition to post #21 (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1092138&postcount=21) of this thread?
Or does someone know if it is possible to add and subtitle files (.e.g. .srt, .sup) via command line and specify all the setting available under the 'Subtitles'-tab in the gui?

@kurt: not sure but I think, "h264info alpha" was able to change the par,...

Cu Selur

deank
16th January 2009, 01:07
Yes, you can add subtitles in tsMuxer's meta file, provided you know FPS, video height/width. If subtitles are in MKV you'll need their track number, if external you still need to set movie FPS. Easy way to find more is to start tsMuxer and examine the .meta file it creates (or to read the manual).

kurt
16th January 2009, 11:29
@kurt: not sure but I think, "h264info alpha" was able to change the par,...

thx for the hint, Selur :)
posted in Trahald's thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1238041#post1238041)...

Edit: the solution is YAMB (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1238396#post1238396)

--> really useful, for anamporphic encodes too of course ...

jfcarbel
18th January 2009, 14:36
tsMuxer includes an option to cut end credits. A few questions:

About how much space on average can actually be saved doing this for a blu-ray movie?
Just wondering if this is another significant option in reducing BD50 to fit on BD25.

Any risk to audio getting out of sync?
Anyone here done this successfully and what is best way to make sure you are only cutting the credits and not more?

psmaniac
18th January 2009, 20:48
Thanks for the great tool. With it I finally got a HD movie to play right on my PS3.
Though the muxer always thinks the source videos are at 25fps and that I'm wrong to force them to 23.976. that causes desync with subtitles.

also if I cut out a bit from the start the subtitles are not cut and end-up late.

I'll still need to reencode some videos that utilize level 5.1 and some other features that the ps3 doesn't decode, but at least I can rely on this to mux it properly. unlike that mp4box which wants the audio to already be in a gpac iso structure within a mp4 file before i can mux it with the audio. well it plays on the pc no prob, but on the ps3 has no sound without that thing. oh and it doesn't support ac3.

Quatre
20th January 2009, 12:42
since the first post in this thread doesn't update with new versions, where is the best place to check for new versions of this prog and see the changelog? i missed past updates cus they weren't in the first (or last post in the thread) and had to find out after the fact and get a link several pages back from the last page of the thread by the time i found out.

d0ORk
20th January 2009, 19:30
It would be nice to enter a custom filename, as I get this error in TSMuxerGUI:

Can't create output file Q:\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+00030+00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00045+50202+00023.track_4113.264

I think the filename is too long

psmaniac
21st January 2009, 00:42
since the first post in this thread doesn't update with new versions, where is the best place to check for new versions of this prog and see the changelog? i missed past updates cus they weren't in the first (or last post in the thread) and had to find out after the fact and get a link several pages back from the last page of the thread by the time i found out.
www.videohelp.com usually has the updates of it's tools not long after their release. though you could have cut this (http://www.smlabs.net/) out of the download link and it would lead you to http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer.html
Новая версия tsMuxeR запланирована на начало 2009 года. Свои пожелания и рекомендации отправляйте по адресу (tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv).
I'm not good with Russian but here's a crude translation.
A new version of tsMuxeR is planned for the beginning of 2009. Send your feature requests and suggestions to this address (tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv).

d0ORk isn't that name a bit too unreasonably long? as in "longer than fat32 allows" long, or "WTF are you thinking!" long?

rica
21st January 2009, 00:56
You don't have to be good in Russian; this was the english one:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

d0ORk
21st January 2009, 14:18
Yes psmaniac, thats what i thougt... is it unreasonably long... or WTF are you thinking long or longer than fat32 allows (even while using NTFS) :P

aba101280
21st January 2009, 14:50
Hi,

I have a short question concerning the TSMuxer 1.8.8(b). I tried to mux a vob File to TS Container using the GUI. The Vob File does include an mpeg-2 Video File and also an Mpeg Layer2 Audio File.

The file can be played witzhout problems but the audio is track is broken. You can hear something but very soft and "blurred" (Hope this is the right word). I tried tsremux just to compare and with this tool the Audio Track is fine.

Does anyone here have an idea what this can be

Regards,

Alex

vamsiklak
21st January 2009, 16:06
Hi,

I have a short question concerning the TSMuxer 1.8.8(b). I tried to mux a vob File to TS Container using the GUI. The Vob File does include an mpeg-2 Video File and also an Mpeg Layer2 Audio File.

The file can be played witzhout problems but the audio is track is broken. You can hear something but very soft and "blurred" (Hope this is the right word). I tried tsremux just to compare and with this tool the Audio Track is fine.

Does anyone here have an idea what this can be

Regards,

Alex

i think tsmuxer is not comptable for vob files
i tried itdoesn't cameuot good at all as audio had a problem
i think tsmuxer is strictly for bluray's (i hope not)
let see if anybody had a good luck with it as far as dvd-ts/m2ts/bluray folders

aba101280
21st January 2009, 16:23
Hi,

I tried also with VOB Files that had 2 AC3 tracks and with that it worked perfectly. Only with this Stereo Mpeg-2 Audio it make problems.

I think the TSMuxer can handls Vobs otherwise it would not perfectly work for the AC3 ones. Right?

Regards,

Alex

vamsiklak
21st January 2009, 19:45
Thats leads me to another question
on the bluray
does tsmuxer handles every audio
imean
lpcm
dts-hd
dts
ac3
except tru-hd is this true!!!???

i have blurays audio dts-hd and dts and ac3 in one movie
if i use tsmuxer and eliminate all the tracks except dts-hd doea my bluray backup will playback without any problems
please help !!!???

rica
21st January 2009, 20:40
Thats leads me to another question
on the bluray
does tsmuxer handles every audio
imean
lpcm
dts-hd
dts
ac3
except tru-hd is this true!!!???

i have blurays audio dts-hd and dts and ac3 in one movie
if i use tsmuxer and eliminate all the tracks except dts-hd doea my bluray backup will playback without any problems
please help !!!???

Hope you will find the answers here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125


_ _ _ _ _

espinha
21st January 2009, 23:32
Matroska parse error: Read error at pos 5947


I try to create bluray disc from my x264 HOUSE episodes and gives that error in the beginning , what may be the cause?

jamos
22nd January 2009, 02:36
Bug: True hd still has some issues with the latest version as far as muxing into BD format.

Edit: fixed by using TSRemux to extract raw audio streams instead of TSmuxer. So if you having issues with Dolby-HD not working with a bluray remux in TSmuxer then use TSremux to extract your audio stream.

jamos
22nd January 2009, 02:51
Thats leads me to another question
on the bluray
does tsmuxer handles every audio
imean
lpcm
dts-hd
dts
ac3
except tru-hd is this true!!!???

i have blurays audio dts-hd and dts and ac3 in one movie
if i use tsmuxer and eliminate all the tracks except dts-hd doea my bluray backup will playback without any problems
please help !!!???

It should if you burn it correctly and your bd player supports dts-hd.

vamsiklak
22nd January 2009, 14:45
Thankyou
jamos
Just in case: iam using Tsmuxer and keep the main movie and selecable audio (dts-hd or lpcm)
and output it to bd-structure
and create iso image and burn it by using imgburn

jamos
22nd January 2009, 16:21
Thankyou
jamos
Just in case: iam using Tsmuxer and keep the main movie and selecable audio (dts-hd or lpcm)
and output it to bd-structure
and create iso image and burn it by using imgburn

actually it is not fixed in standalone players still no audio with true-hd. :confused:

spida_singh
22nd January 2009, 16:40
Hope you will find the answers here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141125


_ _ _ _ _

Just had a look at the post, it states to get truehd working correctly, you can mux with tsmuxer, but, you will have to remux again with tsremux to fix bug. Might be better off muxing to m2ts only with tsmuxer, and then remux to blu ray output using tsremux.:)

jamos
22nd January 2009, 17:40
Just had a look at the post, it states to get truehd working correctly, you can mux with tsmuxer, but, you will have to remux again with tsremux to fix bug. Might be better off muxing to m2ts only with tsmuxer, and then remux to blu ray output using tsremux.:)

tried that and got stuttering audio output from tsremux.

rica
22nd January 2009, 20:01
Jamos, you have to use eac3to for demuxing.
And try again.

If the problem still exists, convert THD to flac with eac3to.

jamos
22nd January 2009, 22:13
Jamos, you have to use eac3to for demuxing.
And try again.

If the problem still exists, convert THD to flac with eac3to.

I got it to work by converting truehd to lpm then importing it to tsmuxer but that increases the size so it no longer fits to a dvd-9. i will try demuxing using eac3 but I think the issue is remuxing using tsmuxer which i must do to create the bd structure. tsREMUX doesnt do well muxing to bd.

rica
22nd January 2009, 22:56
Yes, TSMuxer increases the final file lenght approx. 20% after you put LPCM into a BD container.
But it is not an excuse of not squeezing it into a DVD9 since the original movie is min. 25GB.
So finally you have to re-transcode the video to h264 with MeGui considering that overhead.

73ChargerFan
22nd January 2009, 22:59
Or...
Making a dts track from lpcm using eac3to & surecode will take 20 minutes, and would likely fit onto a dvd9 with the video you've already created. IME, I can't hear the difference between dts 1536 & lossless, but I hate ac3/dd 640.

Losing a few bits in audio sounds better than in video.

jamos
22nd January 2009, 23:23
Yes, TSMuxer increases the final file lenght approx. 20% after you put LPCM into a BD container.
But it is not an excuse of not squeezing it into a DVD9 since the original movie is min. 25GB.
So finally you have to re-transcode the video to h264 with MeGui considering that overhead.

Aye but Ive already recoded video and do not want to lessen my video quality bitrate more for a small audio quality increase (am converting to 720p). its not a big deal for me to use just a regular ac3 track. This is just a bug that TSmuxer developers need to be aware of.

rica
22nd January 2009, 23:33
Aye but Ive already recoded video and do not want to lessen my video quality bitrate more for a small audio quality increase. its not a big deal for me to use just a regular ac3 track. This is just a bug that TSmuxer developers need to be aware of.

OK, good choice to select dts or ac3. (ac3- after removal of dialog normalisation looks better :) )

But if you record to an HDD, the best choice would be flac+mkv.
Extract video to mkv and convert THD/DTS-MA to flac with eac3to and remux them to mkv container with MkvMergeGui.

umaximus
23rd January 2009, 11:05
I have a question regarding TrueHD tracks.
I have all my blu-ray collection remuxed into mkv & dts with eac3to.
I still have all the original audio streams (pcm, dtshdma, truehd) backed up and now when i got my new receiver that can handle dtshd & truehd, i would like to remux my mkvs into ts and add truehd to them. The problem is that tsmuxer is causing problems and damage truehd streams. TsRemuxer can only handle original m2ts with truehd already in them, so i cant add it.



After reading alot about 'bug' tsmuxer have, is it possible to first use tsmuxer and remux my mkvs + adding truehd streams into it & then running them again via tsRemuxer? Will this iron out the potential stuttering in truehd caused by tsmuxer? Is there any other way to do it?
When will mkvmerge support truhd?

Quatre
23rd January 2009, 12:22
www.videohelp.com usually has the updates of it's tools not long after their release. though you could have cut this (http://www.smlabs.net/) out of the download link and it would lead you to http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer.html


thanks

ricky man
23rd January 2009, 15:47
i have this error problem: H264 bitstream changed: insert pict. timing and buffering period SEI units.

can anyone tell what does that mean and how can i fix this problem or error?

thank you.

laserfan
23rd January 2009, 16:49
i have this error problem: H264 bitstream changed: insert pict. timing and buffering period SEI units.

can anyone tell what does that mean and how can i fix this problem or error?Not an error, nor a problem. That's a normal output message.

gkar
23rd January 2009, 22:19
I have recently ventured into the Blu-ray arena. I have tried a number of methods for extracting the relevant AC3/DTS core audio from the HD streams for muxing into my *.mkv transcodes.

With Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, I used tsMuXeR to author an m2ts file from the playlist for the director's Cut version of the movie. I loaded that file into tsMuXeR, removing unwanted video & subs (easier to say than graphics presentation stream), leaving only the TrueHD & DTS-HD MA streams. I asked tsMuXeR to extract the AC3 & DTS cores.

With Ironman, it only involves one m2ts file. I did the same as above for the TrueHD stream.

I have also tried using the eac3to method to demux & extract.

My question is: with each generated sound file, my Denon AV receiver NEVER activates the DD or DTS light, indicating the audio being played back is actually digital. How can you tell if the audio is genuine ACs or DTS? Thanks.

PS. my Denon is an earlier model that does not handle the HD audio formats but that should be irrelevant for my purposes here.

Nullity
24th January 2009, 03:04
I have a question regarding TrueHD tracks.
I have all my blu-ray collection remuxed into mkv & dts with eac3to.
I still have all the original audio streams (pcm, dtshdma, truehd) backed up and now when i got my new receiver that can handle dtshd & truehd, i would like to remux my mkvs into ts and add truehd to them. The problem is that tsmuxer is causing problems and damage truehd streams. TsRemuxer can only handle original m2ts with truehd already in them, so i cant add it.



After reading alot about 'bug' tsmuxer have, is it possible to first use tsmuxer and remux my mkvs + adding truehd streams into it & then running them again via tsRemuxer? Will this iron out the potential stuttering in truehd caused by tsmuxer? Is there any other way to do it?
When will mkvmerge support truhd?

Not a direct answer to your question, but just so you know, mkv doesn't support TrueHD yet either (the rest of the HD audio stream types work fine though).

gkar
24th January 2009, 07:28
In playing around with the files, I decided to demux each of the separate m2ts files that make up the Director's Cut movie. I tried muxing them using MKVMergeGUI. Guess what, when I played the resulting *.mka audio file my Denon receiver showed the DTS indicator.

Does anyone know why this would be the case? Why would a merged file using Matroska audio format activate the DTS indicator when the extracted DTS file, using tsMuXeR, not activate it???

umaximus
24th January 2009, 14:49
Not a direct answer to your question, but just so you know, mkv doesn't support TrueHD yet either (the rest of the HD audio stream types work fine though).

I know that, thats why I'm asking whats the best way to mux true hd back? tsmuxer can do it, but it messes it up, tsremuxer can't do it, since you need to have original m2ts with truehd in it, mkvmerge doesn't support it yet.

The only way that is working for me now is that i convert trueHD to pcm and mux it with tsmuxer, but pcm is a bit space consuming. FLAC is not an option for me, since im using PCH for playback which dont support multichannel flac.

peterjcat
24th January 2009, 23:34
I have a question regarding TrueHD tracks.
I have all my blu-ray collection remuxed into mkv & dts with eac3to.
I still have all the original audio streams (pcm, dtshdma, truehd) backed up and now when i got my new receiver that can handle dtshd & truehd, i would like to remux my mkvs into ts and add truehd to them. The problem is that tsmuxer is causing problems and damage truehd streams. TsRemuxer can only handle original m2ts with truehd already in them, so i cant add it.

After reading alot about 'bug' tsmuxer have, is it possible to first use tsmuxer and remux my mkvs + adding truehd streams into it & then running them again via tsRemuxer? Will this iron out the potential stuttering in truehd caused by tsmuxer? Is there any other way to do it?
When will mkvmerge support truhd?

Does tsMuxeR accept MKV as an input? If so, then what you suggest should work EXCEPT that once tsMuxeR has made its new TS/M2TS you have to run it through ts4Np, which seems to be an update on TsRemux, and will fix tsMuxeR's TrueHD troubles (at least to the extent that they will play fine on a Popcorn Hour).

umaximus
25th January 2009, 18:08
Does tsMuxeR accept MKV as an input? If so, then what you suggest should work EXCEPT that once tsMuxeR has made its new TS/M2TS you have to run it through ts4Np, which seems to be an update on TsRemux, and will fix tsMuxeR's TrueHD troubles (at least to the extent that they will play fine on a Popcorn Hour).

Already tried this method, but not with ts4np. I had run it directly through TsRemuxer, after Tsmuxer, but TsRemuxer didnt fixed TsMuxer mess on TrueHD track. Will try with ts4np.

Anyway, any update/fix planned for TsMuxer regarding this bug on TrueHD tracks?

PassThePeas
25th January 2009, 19:52
Anyway, any update/fix planned for TsMuxer regarding this bug on TrueHD tracks?

To my knowledge, no workaround for that TrueHD issue yet.

Tried it all (tsMuxer/tsRemux/ts4np) ... nothing good came out.
There's a specific post on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986).

ochiba
25th January 2009, 19:58
Hi,

does someone had succes with the BDRE 50Gb(TDK) and playing at a standalone player?
After a long road my 25 Gb BDRE works using TSmuxer but with the 50Gb no succes up to know.
I burned the plain BDrip to a BDRE 50Gb with Nero and Ashampoo. When all is ready and I'm lucky it only plays the previews and than stops. When I use only image burn it fails also. I use a LGH20 burner and a Panasonic BD35 standalone

I thought I bought some 50Gb BDRE's to do it easy without resizing but up to now it only give me pain in my head:mad:

I'm open for al sugestions and this week i'm going to try to work with BD rebuilder and look what that does.

Greetz Ochi

setarip_old
25th January 2009, 21:31
When using TSMuxer to combine (as BluRay) a VC-1 videostream with an .AC3 audiostream, should one use the "Add" radiobutton or the "Append" radiobutton?

G_M_C
25th January 2009, 21:44
When using TSMuxer to combine (as BluRay) a VC-1 videostream with an .AC3 audiostream, should one use the "Add" radiobutton or the "Append" radiobutton?

Add, and then select strems in stream field.

Append means "Add to the end of the previous file" (like avisynth aligned "++"). In fact you'll see the ++ when you append in tsMuxeR.

setarip_old
25th January 2009, 22:11
@G_M_C

Thanks for confirming ;>}

peterjcat
26th January 2009, 07:00
To my knowledge, no workaround for that TrueHD issue yet.

Tried it all (tsMuxer/tsRemux/ts4np) ... nothing good came out.
There's a specific post on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986).

What are you playing the files on? I haven't tried burning to a BD to play on a standalone, but tsMuxeR+ts4Np and eac3to+tsMuxeR+ts4Np are both working reliably for me on the PCH A-110 (at last).

Also on the networkedmediatank.com forum is a user application called ToNMT which has just been updated to handle HD audio and works pretty reliably on Blu-ray TrueHD. It no longer uses tsMuxeR for Blu-ray remuxing but has its own muxer. It doesn't make Blu-ray structures, but if all you want is a TS/M2TS it's worth checking out.

odin24
26th January 2009, 09:16
Hi,

does someone had succes with the BDRE 50Gb(TDK) and playing at a standalone player?
After a long road my 25 Gb BDRE works using TSmuxer but with the 50Gb no succes up to know.
I burned the plain BDrip to a BDRE 50Gb with Nero and Ashampoo. When all is ready and I'm lucky it only plays the previews and than stops. When I use only image burn it fails also. I use a LGH20 burner and a Panasonic BD35 standalone

I thought I bought some 50Gb BDRE's to do it easy without resizing but up to now it only give me pain in my head:mad:

I'm open for al sugestions and this week i'm going to try to work with BD rebuilder and look what that does.

Greetz Ochi

I have a TDK BD-RE 50GB, it plays fine on a Sony BDP350. I used a straight BD rip and a remux, movie only with tsMuxeR. I too have a LG burner, however I always use the software that came with the burner to burn, which is Cyberlink.

nwg
26th January 2009, 18:28
I also use a TDK 25GB and a 50GB with my S350 player. TDK and Verbatim are the only brands I recommend. I cannot get the supplied LG 25GB disc to work in any BD player.

I use Imgburn to create the BD's. I prefer to just rip and burn the iso's but have done some movie only burns with TsMuxer.

newcomers
26th January 2009, 21:11
Is anybody else having problems when skipping chapters after muxing to create a blu ray?

I use BDInfo to find the correct file, and then I use tsmuxer to use only the video file, and 1 audio file (hd if there is one). I have selected custom chapters so that is uses the original chapters, but on most films, when skipping chapters, the video gets very choppy and then the audio is out of sync. The only way to get it to sync again is to go back a couple of chapters. It will always cause the same problem on the same chapter in the film, so its not a software player error. I also tried changing it to insert chapter every 5 minutes, but again, on certain chapters its causing the same fault. The chapters causing the problems will always be the same ones.

If I use AnyDVD HD to rip to an image, it plays back fine, but obviously this takes up a lot more space.

I have to note, that if I watch the BD from beginning to end without skipping chapters, it plays back perfectly.

Hope someone can help

Keep up the good work!!


Thanks in advance

odin24
26th January 2009, 23:15
The issue is when tsMuxeR creates a BD structure the data in the CLPI file is bogus, it reports the wrong m2ts file size. To fix this you need to use idbirch's AVCHDMe (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143631). The app has two purposes, to patch the CLPI file and to make PS3/FAT32 compatible... you can disable the PS3 function though, this will fix the seeking issue.

laserfan
26th January 2009, 23:19
Is anybody else having problems when skipping chapters after muxing to create a blu ray?Several issues I know of:

1. tsMuxeR makes some error(s) in the clpi file which can alter where the player "lands" and how it behaves thereafter. Search on "Fixclpi" here for a tool by jdobbs that fixes some problems in the two clpi files in your muxed output

2. After re-encoding, it is possible, even likely, that the original chapter locations don't line-up perfectly in the new encoding. At least with x264 you can tell it in advance where to be sure to put I-frames so your desired chapter marks land perfectly

3. I've found that PowerDVD doesn't always land perfectly on chapter marks, despite that I have placed I-frames and marked them correctly. Arcsoft's TMT seems always to land correctly, as does my settop player.

4. For some reason when converting an HD DVD to Blu-ray, the timing is so messed-up that the original chapter marks no long apply and can be many seconds off. I don't even try to use the original marks from HD DVDs I want to convert.

Fixing the clpi file issue is trivial with jdobbs' tool; assuring I-frames in the right places, marking your chapters accordingly, and dealing with HD DVD is not. Search here on "qpfile.txt" or qpfile for more discussion about marking I-frames for x264 encodes. I don't know of anywhere the HD DVD issue is discussed.

Good luck!

newcomers
26th January 2009, 23:54
so when using the AVCHDMe app, do I just tick the first option which is "fix clpi files", and leave the second option unticked?

So if I was doing a new rip, I would mux, use this app to apply the fix, and them create an iso as normal?

I have created about 20 iso's from BD rips, and im guessing at least 15 have this problem. Can I just extract the contents from the iso, run this app on the extracted files, and then re-create the iso, or do I have to use the original BD and re do all the muxing etc?

Thanks guys

laserfan
27th January 2009, 00:54
Can I just extract the contents from the iso, run this app on the extracted files, and then re-create the iso...That oughta work--give it a try.

I dunno about AVCHDme, but FixclpiGUI is easy to use.

newcomers
27th January 2009, 01:03
That oughta work--give it a try.

I dunno about AVCHDme, but FixclpiGUI is easy to use.

well i just tried AVCHDme and it hasnt made any difference, using either or both of the options selected.

Ill give FixclpiGUI a go and let you know how I get on

Thanks

laserfan
27th January 2009, 03:21
From what you described, it appears to me that when you go to play the mux, the player is not finding I-frames at the points you specified in "custom chapters" of tsMuxeR. Then the player seeks to the nearest I-frame and things get a little out-of-whack. My theory and I'm sticking to it! ;)

But if Fixclpi doesn't work, you may just have to live with the discs you made, or I suppose you could demux your discs and re-index your video files and find proper I-frames and create a new --custom-chapter list and re-mux and... well, it'd be a lot of work.

The first BD backup I ever made had "reckless" chapter marks, and exhibited the same symptoms as yours (out-of-sync when skipping-forward to next chapter, but would fix itself after a few secs). But I've since figured-out how to fix that. :)

EDIT: BTW you should check that... Instead of "going back a couple of chapters" just leave the playback alone and see if it comes back into sync. Mine did after just a few secs (probably until the next I-frame, which for that disc might have been 10+ seconds away, as I x264-ed with the default 250 keyframe interval).

newcomers
27th January 2009, 08:53
Well good news. I ran the FixclpiGUI app and re-created the iso and all appears to be ok!!

Thanks guys

Digi
27th January 2009, 12:06
What are you playing the files on? I haven't tried burning to a BD to play on a standalone, but tsMuxeR+ts4Np and eac3to+tsMuxeR+ts4Np are both working reliably for me on the PCH A-110 (at last).

Also on the networkedmediatank.com forum is a user application called ToNMT which has just been updated to handle HD audio and works pretty reliably on Blu-ray TrueHD. It no longer uses tsMuxeR for Blu-ray remuxing but has its own muxer. It doesn't make Blu-ray structures, but if all you want is a TS/M2TS it's worth checking out.

That may well work with the PCH-110 as you are only creating a single .M2TS file and not the full blu ray structure, Tsremux and Ts4np still do not work with TrueHD for a full structured Blu Ray output.

newcomers
28th January 2009, 00:01
Well good news. I ran the FixclpiGUI app and re-created the iso and all appears to be ok!!

Thanks guys

Well some bad news now!!

Going through the process of re-muxing, using the FixclpiGUI tool and recreating the iso with all of my BD, and the first 10 all worked fine, but then hancock and independce day both still have the same fault.

When I used FixclpiGUI, it said it had fixed file, but they both still stutter when skipping in certain scenes.

Anything else I can do here so sort this problem out? Ive put this current process on hold as each BD is taking 30 mins, and with no guaranteed success, if rather wait for another solution

Thanks guys

ericd
28th January 2009, 10:06
hi
i can say that i try absolutly everything to put subs with tsmuxer,and it always never worked ,in br or avchd configuration or even in m2ts or ts ,i don t understand why
?
i do all that is explain in some tutorials ,meanwhile i wanted to know if i MUST install ffdshow ? is it obligatory ? sorry for my english im french .
i must say that its a nightmare for me to try putiing subs ,i put
.srt but nothing works please can someone help me !!
thx

ericd

Butterfly666
28th January 2009, 10:38
hi
i can say that i try absolutly everything to put subs with tsmuxer,and it always never worked ,in br or avchd configuration or even in m2ts or ts ,i don t understand why
?
i do all that is explain in some tutorials ,meanwhile i wanted to know if i MUST install ffdshow ? is it obligatory ? sorry for my english im french .
i must say that its a nightmare for me to try putiing subs ,i put
.srt but nothing works please can someone help me !!
thx

ericd

Which player do you use, is it a ps3?

WicKeDcHilD
28th January 2009, 12:38
why is it when i try to piece together a movie like The X Files: Fight The Future, i always get a flashing image.
I click add to get the main file with the one video and the one audio, click append and then piece together the rest of the movie but i always see a flashing image where the files were pieced together...
am i doing this wrong or something?

ericd
28th January 2009, 19:37
Which player do you use, is it a ps3?

yes i use a ps3 ,i also use powerdvd to verify that verything works but is the same thing it never never works!!
i just wabt to make a backup with subs playable on my ps3 and also in br players..."sony"
thx for all

deank
28th January 2009, 19:55
Eric, just check if your SRT subtitles start with TIMECODE < 2 seconds. Open the SRT file and if the first lines are like:

1
00:00:00,xxx....

just edit with notepad and make first line to have start time at least 1 or 2 seconds...

1
00:00:02,000 -->.....

ericd
29th January 2009, 07:50
Eric, just check if your SRT subtitles start with TIMECODE < 2 seconds. Open the SRT file and if the first lines are like:

1
00:00:00,xxx....

just edit with notepad and make first line to have start time at least 1 or 2 seconds...

1
00:00:02,000 -->.....


hi dean first of all thx a lot !!
i already try this solution, it didn t work

as i said i try everything !! thx
i try with the .srt ourside and with the .srt muxed in the mkv,i also try to put the .srt in utf 8 saved in .srt
i verify with powerdvd 8 but still nothing...

odin24
29th January 2009, 07:59
@ericd, there might be something wrong with the way the srt file was originally created.

Try this,
Use Subtitle Workshop and save the old srt as a new one. Open Subtitle Workshop, set the FPS first, load the srt file, now "save as" SubRip type to a new srt with a different name.

deank
29th January 2009, 08:49
SRT won't show in PS3 if video is not 1280x720/1920x1080/1440x1080...

odin24
29th January 2009, 08:52
^^ Yeah, I just assumed it was, good point. :p

ericd
29th January 2009, 09:05
@ericd, there might be something wrong with the way the srt file was originally created.

Try this,
Use Subtitle Workshop and save the old srt as a new one. Open Subtitle Workshop, set the FPS first, load the srt file, now "save as" SubRip type to a new srt with a different name.



thx odin24 but again its not working!! lol this is a big mystery ...

i put my specs
vista home
quad core 6600
gc geflorce 8800 gts
software used
kmplayer
powerdvd 8
i have a ps3

i try with a lot of differents movies but nothig..:mad:

ericd
29th January 2009, 09:07
SRT won't show in PS3 if video is not 1280x720/1920x1080/1440x1080...
humm i didn t know that ,i will try with these resolutions thx deank

deank
29th January 2009, 09:38
There is a way around this, but you need to hexedit CPI files.

ericd
29th January 2009, 10:08
There is a way around this, but you need to hexedit CPI files.

??? how to do that???i just verify and none of my mkv are in native resolutions !! lol thats certainly why it doesn t work

ericd
29th January 2009, 10:22
i just try to make a 1280x720 br/ps3with ts muxer ,so in the resolutionsthat you said upper but nothing appears...:mad:
i have checked with powerdvd 8

use also with mkv2avi (hi dean!!) it doesn t work..

deank
29th January 2009, 10:47
Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

ericd
29th January 2009, 12:54
Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

Général
Nom complet : L:\alt.binaries.hdtv.x264\sg.mkv
Format : Matroska
Taille du fichier : 6.56 Gio
Durée : 2h 23mn
Débit global moyen : 6531 Kbps
Date d'encodage : UTC 2007-10-29 22:30:59
Application utilisée : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Bibliothèque utilisée : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Vidéo
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L5.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 8 images
Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Durée : 2h 23mn
Débit : 5623 Kbps
Débit nominal : 5888 Kbps
Largeur : 1280 pixels
Hauteur : 720 pixels
Format à l'écran : 16/9
Images par seconde : 23.976 Im/s
Colorimétrie : 4:2:0
Type d'image : Progressif
Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.266
Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 56 svn-680
Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=5888 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Langue : Anglais

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Identifiant du codec : A_AC3
Durée : 2h 23mn
Type de débit : Constant
Débit : 640 Kbps
Canaux : 6 canaux
Position des cannaux : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Echantillonnage : 48.0 KHz

here is my file i rename the title and put in level 4.1

yes for the 2 questions deank thx again

deank
29th January 2009, 13:02
Do you add your SRT subtitles in tsMuxer GUI? They won't be added automatically.

And can you post the meta tsmuxer generates?

ericd
29th January 2009, 13:22
Do you add your SRT subtitles in tsMuxer GUI? They won't be added automatically.

And can you post the meta tsmuxer generates?



ok i will do it, but im no more home now
i add my srt sub manually ,of course ...:p lol

Rodger
29th January 2009, 17:18
Feature Request!

Option to create AVCHD!

The Samsung BDP-2500 declined playback on ALL discs that I tried which played perfectly on Samsung BD-P1400 and Panasonic DMP-BD30!

The reason is amost impossible and it took quiet a while to pinpoint that "problem".
The unneccesary folders, which only are used for real Blu-Ray.
Just deleting the unused foldes out of a "Blu-Ray" makes it playable on the Samsung BD-P1400.

Thanks
Rodger

ericd
29th January 2009, 18:30
ok i will do it, but im no more home now
i add my srt sub manually ,of course ...:p lol

Dean here is the meta,i changed the title

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre


thx
ericd

nwg
29th January 2009, 22:28
Feature Request!

Option to create AVCHD!

The Samsung BDP-2500 declined playback on ALL discs that I tried which played perfectly on Samsung BD-P1400 and Panasonic DMP-BD30!

The reason is amost impossible and it took quiet a while to pinpoint that "problem".
The unneccesary folders, which only are used for real Blu-Ray.
Just deleting the unused foldes out of a "Blu-Ray" makes it playable on the Samsung BD-P1400.

Thanks
Rodger

I just burn the BDMV folder and it works fine on a Sony S350 and a Samsung 2500. I leave all the folder intact inside the BDMV.

smnckl
30th January 2009, 01:22
from ericd's post...
Vidéo
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L5.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 8 images
Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC


Is your input file really 1280x720?

When you play on PS3 do you go to the subtitles icon and click on it?

I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.

jamos
30th January 2009, 04:10
from ericd's post...




I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.

you are correct with 5.1 and more than 4 ref frames the video will not play on a ps3. By just tricking it to lvl 4.1 it still will not work. You need to reencode the video to lvl 4.1 with x264..I like megui and the AVCHD standalone profile to do this.

jamos
30th January 2009, 04:13
sure wish they would fix the TRUE-HD bug..would love to have true-hd avchd playback without having to convert audio...anyone heard from Roman76 lately??:eek:

ericd
30th January 2009, 08:14
from ericd's post...




I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.

Just going by the info from all the threads that I have read. Do not have a PS3 myself.


As u can see, with the meta file i have change to level 4.1,and nothing appears!!thx for your help
thx jamo and smckl and deank and all others..


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre

odin24
30th January 2009, 08:33
sure wish they would fix the TRUE-HD bug..would love to have true-hd avchd playback without having to convert audio...anyone heard from Roman76 lately??:eek:

You are aware of the tsremux workaround for TrueHD, eh?

smnckl
1st February 2009, 07:54
As u can see, with the meta file i have change to level 4.1,and nothing appears!!thx for your help
thx jamo and smckl and deank and all others..


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\x264\sg.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\x264\sg.srt",font-name="Times New Roman",font-size=60,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=1,bottom-offset=16,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, lang=fre

@ericd

Unfortunately, changing the level when remuxing in tsMuxeR will not help since it does not correct the reference frames. From what I have read, you will need to re-encode using x264.

@all, please correct me if I am wrong.

asarian
1st February 2009, 09:07
from ericd's post...

I believe that his problem stems from his profile and refframe values. See hilited info from his log. With Profile High@5.1 and RefFrames=8, I do not think his PS3 likes that.


It's a little known fact, but (as of somewhere December of last year?) the PS3 actually does support High @ 5.1 Profile now! Sony doesn't generally advertise such info, but it's true nonetheless.

Furthermore,

For 1080p content: reference frames should be < 5 (although 5 reportedly seems to work at times).
For 720p content: reference frames should be < 10 (haven't confirmed this, btw; I thought it was still at max 4).
All content: b-frames should be < 4.

sylvain07
1st February 2009, 10:26
I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."

hello I have the same problem with the film Troy, nobody has an answer?

Glorioso
1st February 2009, 11:16
Roman, i'm having a problem with subtitles. In some files, not all, the subtitles stop a some time in the file and dont reappear. I experienced this problem with multiAVCHD and them tried directly with tsMuseR and same problem. I get the subtitles for 1/3 of the movie then they dint show anymore. Anyone with this problem?

deank
1st February 2009, 12:25
Can you try again with this problematic file, but set CUT START and CUT END in seconds so tsMuxer/multiAVCHD will cut the movie 1 minute before subtitles start missing and cut end couple of minutes later?

Glorioso
1st February 2009, 13:06
Can you try again with this problematic file, but set CUT START and CUT END in seconds so tsMuxer/multiAVCHD will cut the movie 1 minute before subtitles start missing and cut end couple of minutes later?

Right now!!!

jamos
1st February 2009, 15:17
You are aware of the tsremux workaround for TrueHD, eh?

are your referring to converting to pcm..then yes.

jamos
1st February 2009, 15:20
It's a little known fact, but (as of somewhere December of last year?) the PS3 actually does support High @ 5.1 Profile now! Sony doesn't generally advertise such info, but it's true nonetheless.

Furthermore,

For 1080p content: reference frames should be < 5 (although 5 reportedly seems to work at times).
For 720p content: reference frames should be < 10 (haven't confirmed this, btw; I thought it was still at max 4).
All content: b-frames should be < 4.

Yes I agree its his ref frames being too high not the lvl that causes the issue. I played with a file recently and just converted it with ffmpeg and took off a ref frame at a time. once I got down to 4 it played on the ps3..but lost half of the video info of course. so the only solution was to reencode. and for 720 the ps3 can handle up to 9.

Butterfly666
1st February 2009, 16:12
Originally Posted by GreenOnyx
I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."

hello I have the same problem with the film Troy, nobody has an answer?

Same problem here 2. Look the attachment

I get this error only when I mux it to bluray. For mts or ts it works fine

There is a way 2 get it work: Mux it first to TS and then the TS 2 Bluray output. The error is gone!

Reply if it's working for you...

kolak
1st February 2009, 16:18
:rolleyes:Yes I agree its his ref frames being too high not the lvl that causes the issue. I played with a file recently and just converted it with ffmpeg and took off a ref frame at a time. once I got down to 4 it played on the ps3..but lost half of the video info of course. so the only solution was to reencode. and for 720 the ps3 can handle up to 9.

PS3 has to support 1080 with 4 reference frames with 4.1 level upt to 40Mbit and one secodn of GOP size maximum (or 2 seconds if bitarte is below 15Mbit). B frames, no more than 3. This is BD spec and PS3 will do this for 100%. It does more, but there is no official information how much more.
If you want to be sure about playback just keep BD spec.

Andrew

Glorioso
1st February 2009, 16:25
Can you try again with this problematic file, but set CUT START and CUT END in seconds so tsMuxer/multiAVCHD will cut the movie 1 minute before subtitles start missing and cut end couple of minutes later?
Didn't work.:mad:

asarian
1st February 2009, 18:02
PS3 has to support 1080 with 4 reference frames with 4.1 level up to 40Mbit and one second of GOP size maximum (or 2 seconds if bitarte is below 15Mbit). B frames, no more than 3. This is BD spec and PS3 will do this for 100%. It does more, but there is no official information how much more.
If you want to be sure about playback just keep BD spec.

While it's true that High @ 5.1 Profile isn't specifically mentioned somewhere (it seems Sony likes to brag more about Trophies and Photo Browser support, etc.), I wouldn't go so far as to say it's unofficial. Suddenly it was simpy supported (near the end of last year), much like streaming multi-channel LPCM one day simply arrived. But support for both was nonetheless deliberate and not half-baked: it simply works.

Bitrates, honestly, are a laugh, really, in that almost no manufacturer, including Sony, seems to care about how high you go with it. On High @ 4.1 Profile, the PS3 will handle well in excess of > 400Mbps (!), and I bet you're not even near pushing the envelope with that number. A high @ 4.1 Profile has an 'official' max of 62.5Mbps, btw.

asarian
1st February 2009, 18:58
You are aware of the tsremux workaround for TrueHD, eh?

Not to be unnecessarily rude, but isn't it time this longstanding bug got fixed?

jamos
2nd February 2009, 02:17
Not to be unnecessarily rude, but isn't it time this longstanding bug got fixed?

Also I'm not clear on what he was saying about the tsremux workaround..if you extracting from the original m2ts then yes it may work but tsremux does not split files into 4 gig parts as far as I know. Which is what you need to create a AVCHD structure on a flash/harddrive.
If you have raw streams like I do (ie 720p reendcoded video) TSremux will not work with them unless they are in a container and the only way to put them into one is tsmuxer which breaks the True-HD. Can you elaborate Odin on how to do this?

odin24
2nd February 2009, 03:21
Yeah, I was referring to an uncut TrueHD track... sorry for the confusion. I guess I should have read the post a little more carefully. :p

For all that is interested, I have recoded 1080p rips to DVD9 and kept the TrueHD in some cases. The best I have done so far is a 1hr50min movie with a 24bit TrueHD track. The video looks great. It's even better if the movie is shorter in length or has a 16 bit track. I have tested out on a PS3 and Sony BDP350, both playback fine.

Also, animation movies compress extremely well... I have kept a DTS HD-MA track, which are generally larger than TrueHD, and compressed to DVD9, results were flawless.

Figuring out the m2ts overhead is the tricky part, it's different than a typical AC3 or DTS track, I alway mux the THD or DTSHD track alone, that will give the exact overhead for the audio. The video overhead is generally 4% for a 2hr movie, maybe 3.5% for a 1hr45min or lower.

jamos
2nd February 2009, 15:18
Yeah, I was referring to an uncut TrueHD track... sorry for the confusion. I guess I should have read the post a little more carefully. :p

For all that is interested, I have recoded 1080p rips to DVD9 and kept the TrueHD in some cases. The best I have done so far is a 1hr50min movie with a 24bit TrueHD track. The video looks great. It's even better if the movie is shorter in length or has a 16 bit track. I have tested out on a PS3 and Sony BDP350, both playback fine.

Also, animation movies compress extremely well... I have kept a DTS HD-MA track, which are generally larger than TrueHD, and compressed to DVD9, results were flawless.

Figuring out the m2ts overhead is the tricky part, it's different than a typical AC3 or DTS track, I alway mux the THD or DTSHD track alone, that will give the exact overhead for the audio. The video overhead is generally 4% for a 2hr movie, maybe 3.5% for a 1hr45min or lower.


So to get TRUE-HD to work you muxed the video with the true hd audio with tsmuxer into a m2ts file, then used tsremux to remux it into a BD structure? is that correct?

Digi
2nd February 2009, 16:11
Yeah, I was referring to an uncut TrueHD track... sorry for the confusion. I guess I should have read the post a little more carefully. :p

For all that is interested, I have recoded 1080p rips to DVD9 and kept the TrueHD in some cases. The best I have done so far is a 1hr50min movie with a 24bit TrueHD track. The video looks great. It's even better if the movie is shorter in length or has a 16 bit track. I have tested out on a PS3 and Sony BDP350, both playback fine.

Also, animation movies compress extremely well... I have kept a DTS HD-MA track, which are generally larger than TrueHD, and compressed to DVD9, results were flawless.

Figuring out the m2ts overhead is the tricky part, it's different than a typical AC3 or DTS track, I alway mux the THD or DTSHD track alone, that will give the exact overhead for the audio. The video overhead is generally 4% for a 2hr movie, maybe 3.5% for a 1hr45min or lower.


I would love to know how you got a recoded 1080p with DolbyTrueHD to playback on the Sony S350 as i can only get legacy DTS and Dolby to playback, and as far as testing goes the S350 with firmware over 009 will not playback DTS through the HDMI.

Care to share your encoding methods:)

odin24
2nd February 2009, 23:48
So to get TRUE-HD to work you muxed the video with the true hd audio with tsmuxer into a m2ts file, then used tsremux to remux it into a BD structure? is that correct?

Correct.


I would love to know how you got a recoded 1080p with DolbyTrueHD to playback on the Sony S350 as i can only get legacy DTS and Dolby to playback, and as far as testing goes the S350 with firmware over 009 will not playback DTS through the HDMI.

Care to share your encoding methods

Without going into extreme detail, recode as usual... just the m2ts overhead is astronomical compared to all other streams. I mux it alone to figure it out.

I tested TrueHD and DTS HD-MA on a DVD9 on a non-HDMI receiver hooked up through optical on a v009 unit. Legacy audio played for both formats.

Digi
3rd February 2009, 12:28
Correct.




Without going into extreme detail, recode as usual... just the m2ts overhead is astronomical compared to all other streams. I mux it alone to figure it out.

I tested TrueHD and DTS HD-MA on a DVD9 on a non-HDMI receiver hooked up through optical on a v009 unit. Legacy audio played for both formats.

I see i think you will find that the S350 will not playback those full High Definition audio tracks at all via HDMI as i have done some testing with all available Hi-Def tracks and can only get the Legacy ones to play even through HDMI.

I would save space on your DVD9's and just allow room for thelegacy tracks as the HD audio tracks will never on this player. Infact as far as i know only the panasonic BD35/55 models will playback the full DTS-HD audio track in bitstream format through HDMI no other players will.

odin24
3rd February 2009, 12:43
I see i think you will find that the S350 will not playback those full High Definition audio tracks at all via HDMI as i have done some testing with all available Hi-Def tracks and can only get the Legacy ones to play even through HDMI.

I would save space on your DVD9's and just allow room for thelegacy tracks as the HD audio tracks will never on this player. Infact as far as i know only the panasonic BD35/55 models will playback the full DTS-HD audio track in bitstream format through HDMI no other players will.

The BDP350 that I used is my inlaws, and they do not have an HD audio receiver. I hope to get a BDP350 in the near future so hopefully I can report back soon. My player is the PS3, it has no problems decoding TrueHD and DTS HD-MA tracks on DVD9.

Digi
3rd February 2009, 12:58
The BDP350 that I used is my inlaws, and they do not have an HD audio receiver. I hope to get a BDP350 in the near future so hopefully I can report back soon. My player is the PS3, it has no problems decoding TrueHD and DTS HD-MA tracks on DVD9.

odin24 i do have the Denon 3808 HD audio receiver and i can tell you now none of the HD full bitrate audio tracks played back from the Sony S350 work through HDMI only Dolby digital @ 640kbps works if you have upgraded the firmware past .009, If not then DTS works as well through HDMI.

My S350 is on V.013 firmware and through Optical and Coaxial i can get DTS and DD but as said the full HD tracks through HDMI will not play. The only test that i have not done is to try a recoded BD25 disc and that is only because i do not have a burner.

The PS3 can play the Full HD audio as it internaly decodes it and outputs PCM but the PS3 cannot bitstream the HD Audio

odin24
3rd February 2009, 14:09
Thanks, at least DTS @1536kb/s sends through optical with the latest FW.

asarian
3rd February 2009, 15:00
Is roman76r actually still developing this app? If not, perhaps he'd be willing to make it opensource, so folks like Madshi (of eac3to) can fix outstanding issues like the TrueHD bug.

ultratoto14
3rd February 2009, 15:34
Just a question. I burned numerous 8Gb Blu-ray structure generated by tsMuxer on double-layer DVD. I've got no problem reading the DVD on my desktop PC. But the PS3 always freeze during the layer switch.
Is there something to do to prevent this from happening ?

odin24
3rd February 2009, 20:06
Just a question. I burned numerous 8Gb Blu-ray structure generated by tsMuxer on double-layer DVD. I've got no problem reading the DVD on my desktop PC. But the PS3 always freeze during the layer switch.
Is there something to do to prevent this from happening ?

I had the exact same problem, it was Nero. I have since switched to Cyberlink an the problem went away. Cyberlink came with my BD burner. Maybe you should try IMGBurn.

ultratoto14
3rd February 2009, 20:49
I always use IMGburn to burn my AVCHDs. I tried nero in the pass and my old burned DVD freezes as the actual ones.

ultratoto14
3rd February 2009, 21:28
I'm thinking of using the imgBurn ability to set the layer break of a dual layer DVD. To do this, i need to know which is the size of the first layer, ask tsMuxer to split the video at this size and force imgBurn to burn each part on each layer

Ryu77
4th February 2009, 07:16
Is roman76r actually still developing this app? If not, perhaps he'd be willing to make it opensource, so folks like Madshi (of eac3to) can fix outstanding issues like the TrueHD bug.

Agreed... I am very thankful towards Roman for this fantastic application but it does seem strange that there has been absolutely no development for such a long time. It almost feels like it has been abandoned. Surely rectifying the TrueHD issue should be of high priority and there must be knowledge within this community to make this happen with tsMuxeR.

BZeeme
4th February 2009, 10:59
Is roman76r actually still developing this app? If not, perhaps he'd be willing to make it opensource, so folks like Madshi (of eac3to) can fix outstanding issues like the TrueHD bug.

As posted:

Info from http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind... tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

laserfan
4th February 2009, 16:05
I am very thankful towards Roman for this fantastic application but it does seem strange that there has been absolutely no development for such a long time. It almost feels like it has been abandoned. Surely rectifying the TrueHD issue should be of high priority and there must be knowledge within this community to make this happen with tsMuxeR.But you're just guessing "that there has been absolutely no development for such a long time"; maybe there's been LOTS OF development! It seems to me that SMLabs is (or at least intends to become) a "for-profit" company and thus tsMuxeR was likely exposed here for early feedback and ideas. It would not surprise me if it re-surfaced as a payware product, or otherwise were embedded in their "SmartCONTENT" offering.

As for "knowledge within this community to make this happen", tsMuxeR is not open source so I don't know why you'd hope for this. It does beg the question, after so many months of tsMuxeR continuing to be "the only game in town" relative to freeware muxing solutions, why no one else here has come-out with a similar software. Must be really hard to do!!! :eek:

smnckl
4th February 2009, 17:06
But you're just guessing "that there has been absolutely no development for such a long time"; maybe there's been LOTS OF development!

SMlabs did release 1.8.8 just over a month back tho it was not really publicized.

It seems to me that SMLabs is (or at least intends to become) a "for-profit" company and thus tsMuxeR was likely exposed here for early feedback and ideas. It would not surprise me if it re-surfaced as a payware product, or otherwise were embedded in their "SmartCONTENT" offering.

SMlabs is a for-profit and their market segment is definitely not the home video enthusiast. However, we do have to be somewhat grateful that they have released this tool -- even tho it is only to get free beta testing -- as it has simplified the lives of many.

As for "knowledge within this community to make this happen", tsMuxeR is not open source so I don't know why you'd hope for this. It does beg the question, after so many months of tsMuxeR continuing to be "the only game in town" relative to freeware muxing solutions, why no one else here has come-out with a similar software. Must be really hard to do!!! :eek:

I am sure there are many things to be taken into consideration to put together such a tool.

That said, there are many tools which handle different aspects of what tsMuxeR does, and when put together could equal -- maybe surpass -- tsMuxeR. That is dependant on someone starting the ball rolling and getting the developers to agree on a framework and on what they can and will contribute towards an open source tsMuxeR replacement.

Just my $0.02 on this, FWIW in todays economy. :p

Rodger
4th February 2009, 17:09
I just burn the BDMV folder and it works fine on a Sony S350 and a Samsung 2500. I leave all the folder intact inside the BDMV.

TESTED....and PROVEN WRONG!!!

On My BD-P2500 Firmware with the software "081217_41_BDP2500_XEF.RUF" it definetly DOES NOT WORK!!!

I need to delete folders!
Backup (Clipinf + Playlist folders in it)
Clipinf
Playlist
Stream

NOT MORE!

Only THEN the discs are playable. In case I didn´t mention before. The discs burned just like the are created by tsmuxer are perfectly fine on a Panasonic DMP-BD30 AND a Samsung BD-P1400! I have totally no clue why they did make the BD-P2500 that bitchy?!

New Problem occured then when the disc finally ran.
See here: http://www.bilder-space.de/thumb/04.02BH5O05mKupalFlF.jpg (http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=04.02BH5O05mKupalFlF.jpg)

I´m just guessing....because well....the movie ran and everything I was able to see was a about 2cm high stripe on my LE32A656A! DAMN! :eek:
Same disc OF COURSE plays perfectly fine on my panasonic. If the BD-P2500 wouldn´t play DVDs like a young god...I shurely already would have done ungodly things to it. :devil:

laserfan
4th February 2009, 19:39
SMlabs did release 1.8.8 just over a month back tho it was not really publicized.Actually it was a lot longer ago than that; the date on mine is Sept. 26.

Who knows, either they've stopped working on it altogether, or maybe Roman realized he'd built a unique tool and rather than continue to give it away is instead trying to figure-out how to capital-ize upon it.

Ryu77
5th February 2009, 02:47
But you're just guessing "that there has been absolutely no development for such a long time"; maybe there's been LOTS OF development! It seems to me that SMLabs is (or at least intends to become) a "for-profit" company and thus tsMuxeR was likely exposed here for early feedback and ideas. It would not surprise me if it re-surfaced as a payware product, or otherwise were embedded in their "SmartCONTENT" offering.

Ok, I should have said that there have been no released developments in such a long time (and I have been using v1.8.8 since release). I guess I need to be specific here or somebody like yourself will come along and attempt to make my post look invalid. The fact that no releases of this application have been made in such a long time should give reason for query from this community. I mean, roman76r doesn't really frequent this thread as often as we'd like. As much as Roman gave to us with tsMuxeR, we also saved him a lot of time with beta testing.

Edit: It seems like you sort of agree with me anyway...

Who knows, either they've stopped working on it altogether, or maybe Roman realized he'd built a unique tool and rather than continue to give it away is instead trying to figure-out how to capital-ize upon it.

The SmartLabs website does reveal that a release will be coming soon and that it will be offered as part of the SmartCONTENT solution. My post simply pointed out the fact that nothing is available today and it would have been nice to have the TrueHD issue fixed. :)

As for "knowledge within this community to make this happen", tsMuxeR is not open source so I don't know why you'd hope for this. It does beg the question, after so many months of tsMuxeR continuing to be "the only game in town" relative to freeware muxing solutions, why no one else here has come-out with a similar software. Must be really hard to do!!! :eek:

I am not "hoping" for anything. What made you think that I wasn't aware of the fact that tsMuxeR is not open source? Did you read this?...

If not, perhaps he'd be willing to make it opensource, so folks like Madshi (of eac3to) can fix outstanding issues like the TrueHD bug.

I was agreeing with asarian that it would be nice if tsMuxeR's code could be released. However, I am fully aware that the likelihood of this is practically zero. As you also mentioned about why noone else has released a similar application, this was also something I was eluding to.

setarip_old
5th February 2009, 03:03
Hi!

If you folks would simply go to the SmartLabs (a commercial enterprise) website homepage and click on "tsmuxer", you'd discover the following:
tsMuxeR is a part of SmartCONTENT, content preparation solutionand

tsMuxer's next release is scheduled in the beginning of 2009. Please send or post in our blog your suggestions and recommendations - we will keep them in mind...

Ryu77
5th February 2009, 03:13
Hi!

If you folks would simply go to the SmartLabs (a commercial enterprise) website homepage and click on "tsmuxer", you'd discover the following:

Yes, sorry for going off track for a little bit. I am aware that most Authors (including roman76r) host a bug tracker etc. on their website. I simply wanted to make 2 basic points.

1) It would be nice if there were an application available now that would enable TrueHD muxing etc.

2) If roman76r could frequent this thread every now and then to offer help and progress reports etc. It would be a much more efficient way to gain information to develop his application. As mentioned previously, that is why he released a beta here in the first place.

At the end of the day, I am still extremely thankful to the software Gods for this unique application and look forward to whatever the future brings us in the area of Blu-ray multiplexing/Authoring applications. :D

Ryu77
5th February 2009, 03:14
Double Post

smnckl
5th February 2009, 03:25
@laserfan

Actually it was a lot longer ago than that; the date on mine is Sept. 26.

My bad... I did not check the release date. And time flies by so quickly. :p

Who knows, either they've stopped working on it altogether, or maybe Roman realized he'd built a unique tool and rather than continue to give it away is instead trying to figure-out how to capital-ize upon it.

From what I saw on their website and blog, they were busy at some conference, most possibly pushing their commercial products.

Since this is freeware, albeit beta, we can not start looking this gift horse in the mouth. Maybe someone could start another thread where the developers of open source tools could be invited to contribute by pooling their talents towards a replacement, whether it be a single tool like tsMuxeR or a suite that is inter-connected via scripts that would do the same (or a better) job.

Just my $0.02, FWIW.

sylvain07
5th February 2009, 12:24
Originally Posted by GreenOnyx
I received an error code 3 with the error below in the bottom output box. The box with the processing details didn't say anything abnormal. Has anyone seen this, or is there a way I can find out more info? It's dealing with a ripped blu-ray m2ts that I'm stripping everything out of. I'm using v1.8.8b.

"Bitstream exception. It does not have to be! Plase contact the application support team for more information."



Same problem here 2. Look the attachment

I get this error only when I mux it to bluray. For mts or ts it works fine

There is a way 2 get it work: Mux it first to TS and then the TS 2 Bluray output. The error is gone!

Reply if it's working for you...


hello
I come to test on the 2 ways:
1st ts
2nd create blu ray
is well is similar, always the message error codes 3
the problem is not solved :mad:

Butterfly666
5th February 2009, 14:22
hello
I come to test on the 2 ways:
1st ts
2nd create blu ray
is well is similar, always the message error codes 3
the problem is not solved :mad:

Have you put the TS (that you created) as input instead of the mkv for muxing to bluray?

This worked for me with 2 movies with this error.

With one movie it didnt work but I tried a diffrent whey that worked for the (problem) video ('s).

Open the ts with gdmux and mux it to a new mkv. Then try with the new mkv to create a bluray with tsmuxer. If it still gives you the error you can try to mux the new mkv again to TS and then TS->bluray

I hope this helps for you 2.

Do you know the error bufferoverflow that tsmuxer gives sometimes? This can easly fixed when you demux the audio and put the demuxed audio track in tsmuxer instead of the audio track in that mkv.

Maby you can try this 2...

ericd
6th February 2009, 09:33
i wrote to smartlabs concerning the subs ,cause for me everything works except the subs....that s still a mystery for me..:confused:

d2mp
6th February 2009, 11:50
... for me everything works except the subs...

what subtitle configuration are you using ?
(font size, bottom offset, charset ...)

ericd
6th February 2009, 17:37
what subtitle configuration are you using ?
(font size, bottom offset, charset ...)

font size is 40 arial
bottom offset is 30
default charset

subs are srt
but i already try everything, i have to say that most of my files are not 1280x720
or 1920x1080
but this is not the cause the subs are not working cause i try with a 1280x720 and its the same thing it dont works for me !!
i post this one week ago,if you want to know more..thx foe the help.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1242702#post1242702


ericd

d2mp
6th February 2009, 17:46
font size is 40 arial
bottom offset is 30
default charset

subs are srt
but i already try everything, i have to say that most of my files are not 1280x720
or 1920x1080
but this is not the cause the subs are not working cause i try with a 1280x720 and its the same thing it dont works for me !!
i post this one week ago,if you want to know more..thx foe the help.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1242702#post1242702

ericd

for 1280x720 I use font size = 50, bottom margin = 50
for 1920x1080 I use font size = 70, bottom margin = 70

But subtitles ONLY works with:
a) 1920x1080 or 1280x720 (standard resolutions);
b) blu-ray structure

Note that depending on your player you may have to burn the blu-ray structure to a DVD in UDF 2.5 format (use a burner like nero).
some players, like PS3, plays a blu-ray structure from an external HDD, but only if converted to a 8.3 FAT file system - there are several tools to do this conversion, like:

http://d2mp.homeip.net ;)


Good luck

deank
6th February 2009, 17:52
@ericd: You can post your .srt file/s and a sample of your video... or I can send you a sample to check if it works for you.

You didn't say if you're using ANSI charset for your subtitles or they are in chinese/japanese format.

mike26
7th February 2009, 10:14
I`ve got this problem.
When i create a blu-ray disk from a MKV file with tsmuxer and plays it on my sony bdp-550 there are two frames/pictures on the television half the picture to the left have the right color, and half the picture to the right is black/white but have wierd shadows and there is an line down the middle on the screen is this some kind of copy protection ? have tried it with many mkv files but all of them end with the same result. Any suggestions?

Digi
7th February 2009, 10:27
I`ve got this problem.
When i create a blu-ray disk from a MKV file with tsmuxer and plays it on my sony bdp-550 there are two frames/pictures on the television half the picture to the left have the right color, and half the picture to the right is black/white but have wierd shadows and there is an line down the middle on the screen is this some kind of copy protection ? have tried it with many mkv files but all of them end with the same result. Any suggestions?


I think you will find that the MKV you tried will need re-encoding due to it not having a correct size ratio ie: 1920x1080 or 1280x720

mike26
7th February 2009, 10:31
it look like this http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/mikeee26/gggggggggggggggggggg.jpg is there any way to fix the frame rate :o

Digi
7th February 2009, 10:35
it look like this http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/mikeee26/gggggggggggggggggggg.jpg is there any way to fix the frame rate :o

Thats the problem 1280x536 you could try the BDedit hack and see if it will play 9 times out of 10 you are going to have to re-encode with x264 ecoder to add the missing lines to the 536 part.

there is no other way.

mike26
7th February 2009, 10:44
Im not sure how the command line should look. `?

mike26
7th February 2009, 11:19
is there an x264 ecoder gui insteed

ericd
7th February 2009, 12:17
@ericd: You can post your .srt file/s and a sample of your video... or I can send you a sample to check if it works for you.

You didn't say if you're using ANSI charset for your subtitles or they are in chinese/japanese format.

hi deank its me again thx

well here is a sample of the bluray structure done with tsmuxer and also the meta ,i have to say that it is a 1920x1080p mkv as source,i want to make it works with ps3 or powerdvd8 ,but still no subs!! ansi charset is used with,itry cambria font buti also try with others fonts,still a mystery that nothings appears..
here is the meta of the file

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\The Searchers.mkv", insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\The Searchers.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\The Searchers.srt",font-name="Cambria",font-size=70,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=0,bottom-offset=70,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, lang=fre


and here is a sample of the .ts iinside the bluray structure ,i mean in the stream folder ,you have the subs in atachment

http://rapidshare.com/files/195062291/try.ts.html

subs http://rapidshare.com/files/195065540/The_Searchers.srt.html

thx for helping as usual deank :cool:

smnckl
9th February 2009, 05:32
it look like this
...
is there any way to fix the frame rate :o

As Digi stated, you have to read the BD structure using BDedit.

On the PLAYLIST tab, look in the STN box on the right.
You will see at the bottom an dropdown field with the text "PlayItem". To the right you will see 4 more dropdown fields. The third one most probably has a "-" in it.

Next, go to the CLIPINF tab and click on the "Read" button. You will most probably find that it shows the aspect ratio to be 4:3 instead of 16:9.

Open the proper clpi file in the CLIPINF folder and edit it per the screen cap below. Burn to disc and you should be good to go. However, some standalone players and/or TVs will zoom the picture so it fills the screen, thus stretching the picture vertically making circles oval and everything "taller".

jamos
9th February 2009, 14:00
is there an x264 ecoder gui insteed

You could use megui and add borders to the top and bottom of your video with a avs script. I have tutorials on here on how to do that.

brogan
9th February 2009, 18:32
After reading many pages of this thread, I have a question: Will you be able to get TrueHD (using the TSRemux workaround) or DTS-HD MA to work if you're using a Sony BDP-S350 & a HDMI 1.3 receiver (Onkyo TX-SR806)? When I say work, I mean actually getting the HD audio, not down-mixed to DD or DTS...has anyone w/this BD player & a HDMI receiver been able to do it? I've been making BD9s for months & wanted to create some BD25s w/the at least 1 full-bitrate audio track...thanks for all the information already provided, it's a great read...I've been using v1.8.6b for months & learned alot more about this wonderful application...will update to 1.8.8 tonite...

mrr19121970
10th February 2009, 16:21
it look like this http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/mikeee26/gggggggggggggggggggg.jpg is there any way to fix the frame rate :o

see here...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247218#post1247218

ron spencer
11th February 2009, 02:46
curious if this is still being developed...any news on that?

sylvain07
11th February 2009, 08:14
Have you put the TS (that you created) as input instead of the mkv for muxing to bluray?

This worked for me with 2 movies with this error.

With one movie it didnt work but I tried a diffrent whey that worked for the (problem) video ('s).

Open the ts with gdmux and mux it to a new mkv. Then try with the new mkv to create a bluray with tsmuxer. If it still gives you the error you can try to mux the new mkv again to TS and then TS->bluray

I hope this helps for you 2.

Do you know the error bufferoverflow that tsmuxer gives sometimes? This can easly fixed when you demux the audio and put the demuxed audio track in tsmuxer instead of the audio track in that mkv.

Maby you can try this 2...


hello
I succeeded has to make pass the Troy film without code error with tsmuxer.
I am ale in split& cut and coachman Split by size every 7gb. why its walk has?
I do not know, but the result is.
Sylvain

mrr19121970
11th February 2009, 08:40
curious if this is still being developed...any news on that?

according to the website there will be a new version in the 1st quarter of 2009

kenguru2005
11th February 2009, 13:02
I adore this programm as it allows me to remux my HDV footage to m2ts.
My workflow is:
1. wrighting my final cut video-timeline as lossless 1080i25 HDV "video only" to desktop
2. rendering my final cut audio-timeline as ac3 with compressor
3. Put those to files into tsMuxerGui via crossover for remuxing to m2ts

It would be perfect if it would accept my "complete" original mov (HDV1080i25MPEG2/PCM Little Endian) right from my fcp timeline? Like I said: at the moment tsMuxer does only accept a "video-only" mov.

An example of such an file is availabale here: http://rapidshare.com/files/193917252/test.mov

Greetings

Tineg
11th February 2009, 15:33
see here...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247218#post1247218

Hi everybody,

I faced problem with a 1280x536 movie when using tsmuxer.
My SAP Samsung BDR-1500 displays a sort of 4:3 image instead of the real format.:mad:
Is there's a way to avoid this issue?

Thank you by advance.

(I submited this issue to Dean but I think this issue is more related to tsmuxer this forum is a better place).

nwg
11th February 2009, 18:27
Has anyone noticed if using a HD DVD evo file (evo of the movie from using evodemux) that it converts the video to 1080i/29.97 instead of keeping it at 1080p/24? Is it still 1080p/24 and just flagged wrongly. If so, how to I change it back?

I don't get the problem with BD.

smnckl
11th February 2009, 21:03
Hi everybody,

I faced problem with a 1280x536 movie when using tsmuxer.
My SAP Samsung BDR-1500 displays a sort of 4:3 image instead of the real format.:mad:
Is there's a way to avoid this issue?

Thank you by advance.

(I submited this issue to Dean but I think this issue is more related to tsmuxer this forum is a better place).

Did you look at the posting that mrr19121970 pointed to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247218#post1247218)? He has a link to an app (his own, and it works) to make corrections in the clpi file.

Else, you can look at my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1247182&postcount=2651) if you feel confident with a hex editor.

madshi
12th February 2009, 09:48
Hey guys,

those of you wanting to mux TrueHD with tsMuxeR, have a look here:

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=1786&pid=142947#pid142947

This is a tool which should fix the TrueHD related problems in m2ts files created by tsMuxeR. It's comparable to what Ts4NP does, but should be much faster.

lchiu7
12th February 2009, 10:07
The BDP350 that I used is my inlaws, and they do not have an HD audio receiver. I hope to get a BDP350 in the near future so hopefully I can report back soon. My player is the PS3, it has no problems decoding TrueHD and DTS HD-MA tracks on DVD9.


Really? I tested this myself a few days ago. Extracted one of the smaller m2ts files on a BD title. Then ran tsmuxer on it, removed all the tracks apart from TrueHD one and created a BD formatted directly (BDMV). Copied the BDMV directory to a USB stick and tried to play that in the PS3. The video played fine - there was no audio.

Though I haven't tried others have reported getting DTS HD Master to work on AVCHD formatted disks, but not TrueHD. I wonder what you did differently to create a AVCHD formatted title with TrueHD that played okay?

m99
13th February 2009, 14:58
Is there any who has managed to convert a 720p.mkv-file with tsMuxeR (1.8.8b) (or any other program?) and play it from a SD Card on a Panasonic DMP-BD35/55 ?
Whatever I try the player don't find any AVCHD-content on the card :(

spida_singh
13th February 2009, 15:11
The TrueHD fix has been implemented into the main build of ToNMT, have a look here:

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=1786&pid=143269#pid143269

Details of the latest 5.3.0 Beta:

Fixes the TrueHD TsMuxer issue (no more need for Ts4NP!)
Fixes an issue with not closing properly after HD DVD muxing
Fixes issue where temp files were left (keepTempFiles option was coded backwards)

Note for Vista Users:
Depending where you put your output and your settings, Vista might not let me update the final TS file.
If you get an error saying (FileNotFoundException (Access Denied)), you can either rerun ToNMT as administrator, or run QuickFix (as administrator) to fix the file.

deank
13th February 2009, 16:53
Is there any who has managed to convert a 720p.mkv-file with tsMuxeR (1.8.8b) (or any other program?) and play it from a SD Card on a Panasonic DMP-BD35/55 ?
Whatever I try the player don't find any AVCHD-content on the card :(

SD playback uses different kind of index/movieobjx/clipinfo/playlist files. I'm trying to implement it in multiAVCHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744).

lchiu7
13th February 2009, 20:12
Is there any who has managed to convert a 720p.mkv-file with tsMuxeR (1.8.8b) (or any other program?) and play it from a SD Card on a Panasonic DMP-BD35/55 ?
Whatever I try the player don't find any AVCHD-content on the card :(

Not sure it's relevant but whenever I use tsmuxer to create AVCHD formatted content and copy it to a USB stick, the PS3 can't see it either. That is until I found a program called avchdme which fixes the names of the files in the BDMV directory to be 8.3 compliant and also fixes up some header information. You could try that?

m99
14th February 2009, 00:20
Not sure it's relevant but whenever I use tsmuxer to create AVCHD formatted content and copy it to a USB stick, the PS3 can't see it either. That is until I found a program called avchdme which fixes the names of the files in the BDMV directory to be 8.3 compliant and also fixes up some header information. You could try that?

Have tried it, the problem is probably what deank says.

SwissyJim
14th February 2009, 01:28
Ok... question. And sorry of it's simple, or asked before. I dug thru many of the pages here and had no luck. If there is a better place for this question, please let me know.

But I need to find out how to rip a BD while keeping the essential english subtitles in Tsmuxer 1.8.8(b) I just bought Miracle at St Anna, and when I ripped the disk to place in my HTPC, none of the subtitles are there. So I re-ripped it with the english subtitles, and now there are subtitles in every scene, not just the foreign language ones. In the main screen of tsmuxer, how can you tell which are the required, only shown when needed, subtitles (if possible?)

Tineg
14th February 2009, 12:52
Did you look at the posting that mrr19121970 pointed to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247218#post1247218)? He has a link to an app (his own, and it works) to make corrections in the clpi file.

Else, you can look at my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1247182&postcount=2651) if you feel confident with a hex editor.

Thank you so much ==> it worked fine.

:):):):)

mrr19121970
14th February 2009, 14:27
Thank you so much ==> it worked fine.

:):):):)

of course ;)

nwg
14th February 2009, 17:00
Ok... question. And sorry of it's simple, or asked before. I dug thru many of the pages here and had no luck. If there is a better place for this question, please let me know.

But I need to find out how to rip a BD while keeping the essential english subtitles in Tsmuxer 1.8.8(b) I just bought Miracle at St Anna, and when I ripped the disk to place in my HTPC, none of the subtitles are there. So I re-ripped it with the english subtitles, and now there are subtitles in every scene, not just the foreign language ones. In the main screen of tsmuxer, how can you tell which are the required, only shown when needed, subtitles (if possible?)


What you want is the forced subs. The easiest way to tell is to install Eac3to then put a program called HD DVD/Blu Ray Stream Extractor in the same Eac3to folder. Run this on the complete ripped disc and any subtitles that are forced will have forced in the description. You then tick the subs you want and extract them to another location. Then load them in TsMuxer along with the video and audio (can use the already ripped ones) to create a new BD.

SwissyJim
14th February 2009, 21:05
What you want is the forced subs. The easiest way to tell is to install Eac3to then put a program called HD DVD/Blu Ray Stream Extractor in the same Eac3to folder. Run this on the complete ripped disc and any subtitles that are forced will have forced in the description. You then tick the subs you want and extract them to another location. Then load them in TsMuxer along with the video and audio (can use the already ripped ones) to create a new BD.

Ok thanks... I'll try eac3to - I've been avoiding it as it seems pretty involved for my simple brain, but maybe it's time to upgrade. tsmuxer has done so well for me that I've never needed anything else. I'm sure I'll have more questions soon :)

edit to add:

oops... seems I missed the second english subtitle track... that's the one I wanted. Now just to figure out how to hard code it with tsmuxer so I don't have to select it

Quatre
15th February 2009, 03:39
if i have a an x264 .mkv file that was poorly encoded with 1 ref frame too many which causes it to not play on the popcorn hour network media tank (even after running through tsMuxeR, which usually makes any mkv work on the pch even 1080p with higher then L4.1 h264 video level and dts audio) can I use a program to fix the .ts I already made or is the only way, to work with the original mkv and reencode it as mkv again but this time with the proper ref frames?

is there anything tsMuxeR can do to fix this file? like other special settings I didn't do the first time remuxing it to .ts?

laserfan
15th February 2009, 18:26
I have mentioned in other threads that Cyberlink PowerDVD does not always nail my Chapter Marks when skipping from chapter-to-chapter. I've found that jdobbs' fixclpi.exe is absolutely necessary, but PDVD still misses by a frame or two sometimes.

Since removing "contSPS" from my tsMuxeR blu-ray output options this problem is completely gone.

I'm not sure if contSPS tromps-on existing SPS/PPS or what, but I rarely argue with success so I'm not using it any more. I wonder now too if the commonly used insertSEI is also needed. From what I've read this has more to do with broadcast streams perhaps? :confused:

P.S. I do recall too that ReadMe says contSPS is recommended for PS3. But who cares about PS3... ;)

jj666
15th February 2009, 21:37
if i have a an x264 .mkv file that was poorly encoded with 1 ref frame too many which causes it to not play on the popcorn hour network media tank (even after running through tsMuxeR, which usually makes any mkv work on the pch even 1080p with higher then L4.1 h264 video level and dts audio) can I use a program to fix the .ts I already made or is the only way, to work with the original mkv and reencode it as mkv again but this time with the proper ref frames?

is there anything tsMuxeR can do to fix this file? like other special settings I didn't do the first time remuxing it to .ts?

Re-encode your original disk correctly. If you got the file anywhere else, it shouldn't be discussed here.

-jj-

Quatre
16th February 2009, 04:46
I've been using this progam to remux x264 .mkv (mostly 1080p with dts) to .ts for better more stable playback and compatability with the popcorn hour (networked media tank). .ts for a couple reasons is just more stable on the pch (popcorn houor) then mkv and can usually handle the intensive 1080p stuff with dts 100% of the time. sometimes when an mkv doesn't play properly on the pch (often because its 1080p with dts and has higher then l4.1 video or high ref frames), the fix is to just remux it to .ts which usually works 100% of the time so i started just doing it all the time for every mkv file rather then transfering the mkv to my pch and then if it didn't play right, then remuxing to .ts in tsMuxeR.

Well I had a movie not play right as a .ts now. I just assumed that therefore no way would the mkv play right and that it was just so badly encoded that even the .ts made from tsMuxeR didn't even play properly on the pch.

on a whim though I tested the mkv only to find it does work fine. so now I am concerned that I shouldn't be remuxing my mkv to .ts and mostly I am just very curious as to why the .ts wouldn't work but the mkv does when if anything its usually the opposite because of ow the popcorn hour works. it can handle very intensive .ts and is stable but not mkv as well. sometthing about it using hardware for .ts and software for mkv or vice versa.

the only thing i could find wrong with the file was that it had supposedly 1 ref frame too many at 5. should be 4 i guess. but why would the .ts made using tsMuxeR not work in the pch and the mkv does? I just want to know the reason why and know if this is a fluke or should I not be remuxing to .ts anymore for the pch.

i know the pch fw's has improved mkv playback but i doubt the .ts playback would get worse. Is there a setting in tsMuxeR that can lower the ref frame from 5 to 4. maybe that would work. i mean ultimatley i guess i dont need to remux it to .ts if the mkv works after all, but again i'm just really curious as to why the .ts doesnt' work and the mkv does when usually if anything its the opposite in the case wehre some mkv dont work for whatever reason remuxing to .ts has always worked for playback on the pch.

I will list the media info for both the mkv and the .ts

mkv:
bdisc-jttcote3d1080.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 7.95 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate : 12.3 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-10-20 06:39:53
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate : 11.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 11.6 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.224
Writing library : x264 core 65 r999 cc51047
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=11646 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English


and here is the .ts:

Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008) 3D 1080p bluray ac3.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 8.20 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate : 12.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate : 11.5 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 11.6 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.232
Writing library : x264 core 65 r999 cc51047
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=11646 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.0

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 1h 32mn
Language : English

Quatre
16th February 2009, 04:52
Re-encode your original disk correctly. If you got the file anywhere else, it shouldn't be discussed here.

-jj-

I did reencode it correctly but I'm just wondering why when I remuxed the first encode (that had 5 ref frames) to .ts, it didn't work but then when I tried the mkv (even the first encode with the 5 ref frames) it did.

i mean i guess i'm best off with the one I reencoded and even remuxing that one to .ts but again i'm just wonder why the .ts of the one with the 5 ref frames didn't work while the mkv did. more of a question for the popcorn hour forums i guess i know but i was just trying to get some insight on the tsMuxeR side of the equation cus as i've said, usually an mkv that doesnt' work for whatever reason, after running through tsMuxeR, the .ts of it does. and that is quicker then reencoding it (from the original disc or even from the first encode with the 5 ref frames)

zomtec
17th February 2009, 10:34
are there any plans to release the sources? i would like to use it on my nas (debian-etch-arm)

mrr19121970
17th February 2009, 14:02
Ok thanks... I'll try eac3to - I've been avoiding it as it seems pretty involved for my simple brain, but maybe it's time to upgrade. tsmuxer has done so well for me that I've never needed anything else. I'm sure I'll have more questions soon :)

Please try this out (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818), you generally can't go wrong.

Butterfly666
17th February 2009, 16:18
When I go to http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer.html I noticed that I come in to a different site, not Smlabs anymore.

Anybody noticed this??

laserfan
17th February 2009, 17:00
Looks still like SmartLabs to me!?

DarkZell666
17th February 2009, 17:22
Looks still like SmartLabs to me!?

Same here ?

nwg
17th February 2009, 21:26
Can't view the attachment yet but it sounds you might have browser hijacker spyware. Try running something like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware or SuperAntiSpyware software.

teox99
17th February 2009, 21:57
hi!
i'm new to TSmuxer,
this is my prob, i've to burn an m2ts file little bigger than 25GB so it isnt possible to burn it on a 25Gb BD disc,
i'm looking for a way to delete one or more audio tracks not needed from m2ts in order to resize the file.

can you tell me a guide or just the steps to make the trick with tsmuxer (linux)?
thx a lot

hxall
17th February 2009, 23:09
hi!
i'm new to TSmuxer,
this is my prob, i've to burn an m2ts file little bigger than 25GB so it isnt possible to burn it on a 25Gb BD disc,
i'm looking for a way to delete one or more audio tracks not needed from m2ts in order to resize the file.

can you tell me a guide or just the steps to make the trick with tsmuxer (linux)?
thx a lot

load your m2ts into tsMuxer, it will list all the streams (video, audio, subtitles) in the container, then just uncheck any unwated video/autio/subtitle streams to reduce the overall file size, mux to another file and burn as needed...

ultimately, you only need one video and one audio track, hope that helps...

Drv
18th February 2009, 09:15
When I go to http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer.html I noticed that I come in to a different site, not Smlabs anymore.

Anybody noticed this??

http://www.smlabs.ru/tsmuxer_en.html

teox99
18th February 2009, 09:44
load your m2ts into tsMuxer, it will list all the streams (video, audio, subtitles) in the container, then just uncheck any unwated video/autio/subtitle streams to reduce the overall file size, mux to another file and burn as needed...

ultimately, you only need one video and one audio track, hope that helps...

thx hxall,
sorry i run tsmuxer under linux so there is not a gui for this tool, isn't it?
i need command line parameters

mrr19121970
18th February 2009, 10:45
Command Line:

tsmuxer.exe (meta location) (destination)

Example:
"Y:\tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b)\tsMuxeR.exe" "C:\DTEST\DTEST.meta" "C:\RTEST\DTEST"

a sample meta file:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:05:35.040;00:10:14.440;00:16:55.720;00:20:42.520 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "C:\DTEST\Video_2.MPEG2"
A_AC3, "C:\DTEST\Audio_3_German.AC3", lang=ger

joerg-daniel
18th February 2009, 13:57
hi,

how to demux /mux the true-hd track via commandline and tsmuxer 1.8.18 b?
the gui doesn't work

Butterfly666
18th February 2009, 15:15
Can't view the attachment yet but it sounds you might have browser hijacker spyware. Try running something like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware or SuperAntiSpyware software.

Thanx I have installed a fresh windows and it works again!

Antispyware didn't work for me

:thanks:

DoomBot
18th February 2009, 17:43
hi,

how to demux /mux the true-hd track via commandline and tsmuxer 1.8.18 b?
the gui doesn't work


Where is this tsmuxer 1.8.18 b version for download?

ron spencer
18th February 2009, 17:47
download:

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/


gui still shows old version though if you use it (as it is an old gui). New GUI is supposed to be out soon:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=27350

DoomBot
18th February 2009, 17:49
Thank you very much:thanks:

Nullity
18th February 2009, 17:56
download:

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/


gui still shows old version though if you use it (as it is an old gui). New GUI is supposed to be out soon:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=27350

Awesome! Great find!

ron spencer
18th February 2009, 18:01
for those interested in changelog:

changelog:
1.8.15 - fixed bug with TRUE-HD stream
1.8.16 - fixed bug with long srt subtitles
1.8.17 - fixed bug with extracting TRUE-HD core (bug appear in mux mode only, demux works fine)
1.8.18 - fixed bug with "bitstream exeption" occurring in some streams

laserfan
18th February 2009, 18:35
for those interested in changelog:Let's hope there were plenty more fixes between 1.8.8 and 1.8.15! ;)

mrr19121970
18th February 2009, 19:10
not the important ones like CLIPINF bugs:

Aspect Ratio sometimes wrong
Number of packets incorrectly calculated
Coarse/Fine table incorrect

Also the version numbers in the headers are are still mixed up (sometimes BD, sometimes AVCHD)

The BD directory structure is still not correct

Seamless Branching Not Handled Correctly

1080i50 VC1 streams simply not recognied

ron spencer
18th February 2009, 19:51
I think your Clown_BD fixes all these right?

maybe you should contact developer?

teox99
19th February 2009, 23:09
heve anyone tried to run tsmuxer under wine?

using wine the gui seems to works but it doesnt retrive all the file tracks - actually windows works right, showing everything ok, i think under wine it's enough if the gui give all the parameters for the meta file, then you can use the unix version to make the job.

any idea? some dll needed?
in attach the gui under wine.
thx

[)370|\|470!2
20th February 2009, 03:07
changelog:
1.8.15 - fixed bug with TRUE-HD stream
1.8.16 - fixed bug with long srt subtitles
1.8.17 - fixed bug with extracting TRUE-HD core (bug appear in mux mode only, demux works fine)
1.8.18 - fixed bug with "bitstream exeption" occurring in some streams

Splitting/cutting are b0rked in these new versions of muxer.

idbirch2
20th February 2009, 10:46
In what way? I tested splitting yesterday with 1.8.18 and the output was fine.

pleinlesyeux
20th February 2009, 12:12
Hi !

When demux a raw file to .wav, the resulting wav file is split every 4GB.
Is there a way not to split every 4GB
Is there a way to join th eresulting wav files without quality issue ?

Thank you !

tebasuna51
20th February 2009, 13:15
When demux a raw file to .wav, the resulting wav file is split every 4GB.
Is there a way not to split every 4GB
Nope, maybe next Tsmuxer version can output w64, rf64 or, at least wav >4GB.
Is there a way to join th eresulting wav files without quality issue ?
Nope, the wav extracted with TsMusex are buggy (extra final bytes). Use eac3to to extract wav files.

deank
20th February 2009, 13:32
WAV files cannot be bigger than 4GB - take some time to read more. That's why LPCM is used. W64 and RF64 are other formats.

madshi
20th February 2009, 13:39
WAV files cannot be bigger than 4GB
Yes, they can. It's out of spec (a header fields overflows), but possible. There are a number of tools that can read and write > 4GB WAV files just fine.

[)370|\|470!2
20th February 2009, 14:32
In what way? I tested splitting yesterday with 1.8.18 and the output was fine.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/420/1243un7.jpg

Same happens if --split-size= string in .meta executed via cmd/batch.

pleinlesyeux
20th February 2009, 16:38
Thanks for your responses.

My issue is UI want to import with scenarist mui generator LPCM/RAW files.

The wav produced with eac3to does attribute the right channels (even with the custom map which does not seem to work. I use a gui, so perhaps it is that)

The wav produced with tsmuxer is accepted by mui but is cut in 2. Mui gen does not want to joint the wav files.

The raw produced by eac3to is accepted by mui but rejected by scenarist...

What option do I have ?

deank
20th February 2009, 18:21
Can you create LPCM from your raw file with eac3to and import it in scenarist?

pleinlesyeux
20th February 2009, 18:47
I don't know how.

Eac3to allows me to create a raw file, but not LPCM.

I'm gonna google raw to LPCM. Thank you for that lead.

deank
20th February 2009, 18:57
eac3to supports LPCM... It may be the GUI you use that doesn't show the option. If you have a raw audio file try to run eac3to from the command prompt

eac3to rawaudio.raw newaudio.lpcm

If you know its parameters, such as channels, resolution, endianness you will need to specify in the command line, for example:

eac3to rawaudio.raw newaudio.lpcm -6 -48000 -little

pleinlesyeux
20th February 2009, 19:38
Hey Deank,

I just tried another GUI and yes there is lpcm output !

But I still was denied by scenarist even though mui generator created the file OK.

Error : FilePath : I:\HP4\HP4\BDMV\STREAM\HPAUDIO.lpcm.ves,
It failed in reading the file.

So far, I can only import .wav from a .raw/lpcm rip. And of course I'm blocked with the 4GB limit...

deank
20th February 2009, 19:44
Then....(if you can afford scenarist) you can use a DTS or TrueHD encoder that will keep your audio pristine and will allow you to add it to scenarist... Or you're another HD fan that just happened to have scenarist?

Butterfly666
21st February 2009, 16:31
I can confirm that DTS-HD Master 7.1 works with TsMuxer 1.8.18 on Ps3.

(played with extern HD)

lchiu7
21st February 2009, 22:02
I've been using this progam to remux x264 .mkv (mostly 1080p with dts) to .ts for better more stable playback and compatability with the popcorn hour (networked media tank). .ts for a couple reasons is just more stable on the pch (popcorn houor) then mkv and can usually handle the intensive 1080p stuff with dts 100% of the time...

My understanding is that there is more CPU effort required to play MKV on the PCH than ts files. There is a bit of a debate going on at the PCH forum about supporting multichannel FLAC in MKV and questions about whether the Sigma processor could actually handle all that processing.

If your title doesn't play smoothly it's likely you encoded it with an incompatible profile. I myself encode all my stuff to m2ts format (I find it hard to see why one would use MKV for one's own content) which does take a bit more space but also now PS3 compatible

piratburner
22nd February 2009, 16:49
Is latest version of TsMuxer good for joining several m2ts files ? eac3to so far is the only SW I trust for joining m2ts files :-) If I remember so was there a problem that sound get off sync when using Tsmuxer ??

dalemccl
23rd February 2009, 04:43
In the tsMuxer GUI, about half-way down the interface window there is an area labeled "General Track Options". When an audio track is highlighted above, the options line shows "Delay (in ms)". It is usually pre-filled with 0 (zero). But with some movies there is a non-zero value in it, such as -42.

Is tsMuxer getting this delay information from the movie and thus I should leave the value as-is, even if it is non-zero?

Duppie
23rd February 2009, 05:18
not the important ones like CLIPINF bugs:

Aspect Ratio sometimes wrong
Number of packets incorrectly calculated
Coarse/Fine table incorrect

Also the version numbers in the headers are are still mixed up (sometimes BD, sometimes AVCHD)

The BD directory structure is still not correct

Seamless Branching Not Handled Correctly

1080i50 VC1 streams simply not recognied

Did you send this information to the developers of TsMuxer?

hakmana
23rd February 2009, 09:19
Is there an english translation of the readme file?
Is there a way to script the demux operation. I basically want to do exactly what tsmuxergui does by loading in a .ts file, choosing demux, and pressing start, but from a command line script.

I think I found an early translation of the readme, but it doesn't say anything about scripting demux, only scripting muxing.

Thanks

deank
23rd February 2009, 10:17
You can take a look at the 'meta' window in tsmuxergui. Demux works the same way as muxing.

You need to create your meta file and then execute tsmuxer.. For example - demuxing the audio track from a file:


tsmuxer.exe STREAM.meta .

and in the stream.meta you can have something like:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_AC3, "D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS", track=4352, lang=und

It will produce a demuxed audio file: 00000.track_4352.ac3.

setarip_old
23rd February 2009, 21:58
I have had great success experimenting with using (presently freeware) "MakeMKV" to rip and convert any and all BluRay discs (except BD+) to MKV and then using "tsMuxeR" to convert the "movie only" (as well as any other titles on the disc, should I choose to do so) back to BluRay.

Using "MakeMKV" eliminates the necessity of using (payware) "AnyDVD-HD".

I have recently run into a problem using this methodology with "There Will Be Blood":

Although the "movie only" MKV file created by "MakeMKV" plays back properly and indicates the proper running time, once it's been converted to BluRay by "tsMuxeR", the resultant video stutters and is indicated to be exactly twice its original running time.

Does anyone know why this would happen and, if so, how to overcome this problem?

zoner
23rd February 2009, 22:33
maybe something to do with pulldown.
if it wasn't removed or wasn't removed correctly, a 50i movie into 25p(when 1 Progressive frame represents an Interlaced frame instead of 2) could result in an exact twice the size

setarip_old
24th February 2009, 03:29
My apologies, I omitted some information regarding my difficulty with "There Will Be Blood" in Post #2721:

When I first attempted to use "tsMuxeR" to convert the MKV file to a compliant BluRay "package", after about 5 seconds, "tsMuxeR" generated the following fatal error messageReading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: F:\_BloodMKV\title00.mkv

As a consequence, I had to use "tsMuxeR" to demux the video and audio streams and then remux them as a compliant BluRay "package" - which has resulted in this stuttering (and in several spots, slideshow-like) presentation, with an indicated playback time of exactly twice the actual playback time...

I fdon't believe this has anything to do with "pulldown", as this BluRay, like all of my others (which are NOT problematic) is at 23.976fps

[)370|\|470!2
24th February 2009, 14:29
I'd assume it's an vc1 stream contained in that mkv, as i bumped into same error several times dealing with similar files. The only workaround i could think of atm would be extracting all streams using mkvextract with --raw switch and recombining them later using tsmuxer.

nwg
25th February 2009, 03:17
Has anyone had fast fwd/rewind problems with 720p24? I used ripbot to do The Dark Knight to make it fit on a BD 25 (movie only) and then it uses TsMuxer to mux with. I cannot go fwd or back without the picture freezes. I used the fixclpi thing on the files before burning. I have the same thing when doing BD to DVD and thought it was just the Sony S350 player in AVCHD mode causing it.

I suspect it might be because of the resolution but doing the same thing at 1080p would take four days ! If I use TsMuxer to do a movie only version with the original 1080p24 video/audio and less than 25GB so I can burn it straight away the fwd/rewind is fine.

I also just processed the files again through the clown_BD gui and get the same.

drelin
25th February 2009, 20:21
For foward/rewind problem on standalone player,

I' ve try a solution and it's works on Sony S350 (and ps3 not tested on other players).

1) In tsmuxser, after import files (video.264, audio.ac3, sub.srt..), force the fps (check box and indicate de right fps) and force the level (4.1)

2) After compilation (folder BDMV and files created), use fixclpi on the 2 clpi files (1 in CLPI folder and 1 in backup/CLPI folder)

3) Use CLIPINF Editor and fix the header (for avchd or BD) and fix the length.

Then Burn with UDF 2.50 file system


I've made sevaral test and the forward/rewind work fine and no problem for acces to the chapter.

I hope this method provide a good solution for everybody have the same problem on standalone player.

nwg
25th February 2009, 22:50
Hmmm. The Blu Ray is already muxed at the right fps and level 4.1. Doesn't clown_BD already correct the headers and clpi?

Nullity
26th February 2009, 02:30
Has anyone had fast fwd/rewind problems with 720p24? I used ripbot to do The Dark Knight to make it fit on a BD 25 (movie only) and then it uses TsMuxer to mux with. I cannot go fwd or back without the picture freezes. I used the fixclpi thing on the files before burning. I have the same thing when doing BD to DVD and thought it was just the Sony S350 player in AVCHD mode causing it.

I suspect it might be because of the resolution but doing the same thing at 1080p would take four days ! If I use TsMuxer to do a movie only version with the original 1080p24 video/audio and less than 25GB so I can burn it straight away the fwd/rewind is fine.

I also just processed the files again through the clown_BD gui and get the same.

I use MeGUI instead of RipBot, which has a "Standalone-Bluray" profile that has always worked perfectly for me. You might want to check out MeGUI to do your encoding, or perhaps you can just copy the settings from that profile into RipBot (not sure how RipBot works).

A note though, this profile seems to produce completely compliant streams, so when importing the resulting h264 file into tsMuxer, make sure to uncheck both "Add picture timing info" and "Continually insert SPS/PPS".

nwg
26th February 2009, 02:47
I use MeGUI instead of RipBot, which has a "Standalone-Bluray" profile that has always worked perfectly for me. You might want to check out MeGUI to do your encoding, or perhaps you can just copy the settings from that profile into RipBot (not sure how RipBot works).

A note though, this profile seems to produce completely compliant streams, so when importing the resulting h264 file into tsMuxer, make sure to uncheck both "Add picture timing info" and "Continually insert SPS/PPS".

Last time I tried MeGUI, I found it too confusing. I needed something like Ripbot to do everything for me.

I decided to mux the files again doing everything in drelin's post and it is the same. Chapters work ok though.

setarip_old
26th February 2009, 04:42
@dburckh

Hi!

Regarding my post #2721 and 2723 in this thread:

In another forum, you posted the following regarding ToNMTUI:Even if your source is MKV, VC1ConvJ is about 9x faster than vc1conv (on my machine).Although I have ToNMTUI up and running JAVA and all, I cannot seem to get it to process my MKV (1080p VC-1 plus .AC3).

Would you please explain how I can use "VC1ConvJ" to process this MKV?

hakmana
27th February 2009, 02:02
You can take a look at the 'meta' window in tsmuxergui. Demux works the same way as muxing.

You need to create your meta file and then execute tsmuxer.. For example - demuxing the audio track from a file:


tsmuxer.exe STREAM.meta .

and in the stream.meta you can have something like:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_AC3, "D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS", track=4352, lang=und

It will produce a demuxed audio file: 00000.track_4352.ac3.

Is there any way to just demux all the tracks in the file without specifying them explicitly? Looking at the meta file window in the gui, I see it specifies all the streams and PIDs as soon as the file is loaded, but I do not know how I would automatically generate this myself to make a meta file.

Andrew

lchiu7
27th February 2009, 02:04
I have had great success experimenting with using (presently freeware) "MakeMKV" to rip and convert any and all BluRay discs (except BD+) to MKV and then using "tsMuxeR" to convert the "movie only" (as well as any other titles on the disc, should I choose to do so) back to BluRay.

Using "MakeMKV" eliminates the necessity of using (payware) "AnyDVD-HD".

I have recently run into a problem using this methodology with "There Will Be Blood":

Although the "movie only" MKV file created by "MakeMKV" plays back properly and indicates the proper running time, once it's been converted to BluRay by "tsMuxeR", the resultant video stutters and is indicated to be exactly twice its original running time.

Does anyone know why this would happen and, if so, how to overcome this problem?

Don't have this movie but how are you converting the movie to BluRay format? Are you just passing the MKV stream to tsmuxer or using mkvextract to extract the elemental streams first and then muxing back to a m2ts format?

Also have you tried the latest beta of tsmuxer out there?

setarip_old
27th February 2009, 02:42
@lchiu7

As I've done successfully with ALL BluRays other than those with VC-1 videostreams, I first simply used tsMuxer (I've tried using tsMuxer v.1.8.4, 1.8.8, and the latest beta 1.8.18) - and arrived at the problem I originally described here.

I then tried using "MKVExtractGUI", but it did absolutely nothing.

If there is a specific methodology for using "MKVExtract" directly (without the GUI), please spell it out step-by-step for me, as it's been ages since I've used any (I presume) commandline input (Back when DOS 5.0 was all the rage, IIRC ;>})

lchiu7
27th February 2009, 02:58
@lchiu7

As I've done successfully with ALL BluRays other than those with VC-1 videostreams, I first simply used tsMuxer (I've tried using tsMuxer v.1.8.4, 1.8.8, and the latest beta 1.8.18) - and arrived at the problem I originally described here.

I then tried using "MKVExtractGUI", but it did absolutely nothing.

If there is a specific methodology for using "MKVExtract" directly (without the GUI), please spell it out step-by-step for me, as it's been ages since I've used any (I presume) commandline input (Back when DOS 5.0 was all the rage, IIRC ;>})

And you call yourself a hacker!

mkvextract is a funny program. For a while it looks like it's not doing anything and then all of sudden you see progress bars at the bottom of the gui. But if you want to use the CLI it's easy enough to fire up mkvextracgui or use mediainfo to identify what tracks are in your MKV then at the command line you would enter

mkvextract tracks "moviename.mkv" 1:moviename.h264" 2:"moviename.ac3"

Now in your situation I suspect it would be more like

mkvextract tracks "moviename.mkv" 1:moviename.vc1" 2:"moviename.thd+ac3" if as you say the MKV has VC1 video and THD audio

Then you can input those two files into the latest beta tsmuxer and see how that goes

I know the latter works since I just completed backing up a HD-DVD with TrueHD audio. I ended up with two files, a VC1 file and thd+ac3 file. I was able to pass them into tsmuxer and output a m2ts file

setarip_old
27th February 2009, 05:05
@lchiu7And you call yourself a hacker!No, I call my self an old man hanging on to his ancient computer skills by a thread ;>}

mkvextract is a funny program. For a while it looks like it's not doing anything and then all of sudden you see progress bars at the bottom of the gui. But if you want to use the CLII'll give the GUI another try, based on wjat you've described. I really have NO desire to go the commandline route, if it's not absolutely imperative to do so...

I was able to pass them into tsmuxer and output a m2ts fileSimply as an .M2TS file or a BluRay "package", including the .M2TS file?

Did it playback properly?

Have you done the same with any BluRay VC-1 source material?

lchiu7
27th February 2009, 05:49
@lchiu7No, I call my self an old man hanging on to his ancient computer skills by a thread ;>}



I feel some empathy here:)



I'll give the GUI another try, based on wjat you've described. I really have NO desire to go the commandline route, if it's not absolutely imperative to do so...



Well even for old codgers like ourselves, the CLI isn't always a bad thing!



Simply as an .M2TS file or a BluRay "package", including the .M2TS file?

Did it playback properly?

Have you done the same with any BluRay VC-1 source material?

After running it through tsmuxer I got a large m2ts file. I then passed that through multiAVCHD which produced a AVCHD folder with the appropriate subfolders including the STREAM folder. It cut the large 16Gb file into a bunch of 4Gb ones and created a playlist that directed the PS3 to play each in sequence and it seems seamlessly.

I haven't tried BD VC1 material yet but I can't imagine it would be any different. But will see if I can find a VC1 title in my collection to try out and report back.

[EDIT]

I didn't realise but I had just done Eraser. It's VC1 TrueHD. My workflow was pretty simple

1. Use DumpHD to copy the appropriate m2ts file off the BD
2. Run tsmuxer on the file removing all tracks apart from the VC1 video and TrueHD audio
3. Pass the output file to multiAVCHD which created a AVCHD folder and STREAM subfolder containing a bunch of MTS files each about 4G in size
4. Copy that folder to a FAT32 USB drive
5. Plug it in the PS3 and play it - worked fine - got TrueHD audio

tebasuna51
28th February 2009, 00:49
Is there any way to just demux all the tracks in the file without specifying them explicitly?
Use eac3to:

eac3to "D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS" -demux

setarip_old
28th February 2009, 01:37
In addition to another poster's earlier noted problem when trying to use the "Split" function, I've just come upon another apparent bug in this version - It claimed it couldn't determine the format of an AVC videostream in an M2TS file created by an earlier version of tsMuxeR.

Both earlier versions, 1.8.8 and 1.8.4 had no such difficulty.

Version 1.8.18, however, had no such difficulty with a similar M2TS file that it had created.

It would be good to find out if the problems lie with v.1.8.18 itself, or if they are a consequence of using the v.1.8.8 GUI (Presently there is no v.1.8.18 GUI) with this newer .EXE...

alc0re
28th February 2009, 19:15
Regarding the FF/RW issue : Make sure you are burning the dvd or bd @ the slowest speed your burner and media allow. I had a FF/RW issue that was partly improved by buring at slowest speed. Sorry if this feedback is obvious...

Nullity
1st March 2009, 19:29
New version on the FTP site: ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.19(b).zip

Though it's just the CLI, still no new GUI, and there is no changelog with this one.

~bT~
2nd March 2009, 11:48
I made a little GUI for jdobbs program in Delphi.

FixclpiGUI (http://hbar.dk/files/FixclpiGUI.rar)

I hope anyone find it useful. Thanks to jdobbs for the fix. :)

/GZZ

any chance u can update this gui pls for the latest version?

rack04
2nd March 2009, 14:25
any chance u can update this gui pls for the latest version?

I don't see any point of a gui for fixclpi. It's one command!

For example:

Start -> Run
cmd
cd\
cd program files
cd fixclpi
fixclpi F:\Blu-ray\Work\Cars

That took a whole 10 seconds to type.

spida_singh
2nd March 2009, 14:40
Looks like a new tsmuxer gui

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/tsmuxergui_workspace.PNG

shon3i
2nd March 2009, 16:08
Looks like a new tsmuxer gui

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/tsmuxergui_workspace.PNG
I don't see difference, just version is changed :)

idbirch2
2nd March 2009, 17:53
I don't see difference, just version is changed :)You should get your eyes tested, there's a new "Demux options" tab and an AR drop down which I assume is for forcing aspect ratio.

I wish smlabs would keep us updated properly, just a changelog would be nice, we still don't even know what's new in 1.8.19, do we?

Edit: I just tested 1.8.19 to see if it fixes the .m2ts packet size issue in the .clpi file and it doesn't :( Such an easy fix for them to make as well.

jdobbs
2nd March 2009, 19:29
It did in the one test that I ran, but the COARSE/FINE table was still wrong. I also just got an application crash from it trying to demux some audio... I went back to 1.8.18 and it went away.

rack04
2nd March 2009, 21:16
I'm trying to incorporate meta file creation into a batch script. Can this be done with "copy con"? If so, how do I input the information into the "copy con" file?

@Echo on
copy con "%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%.meta"
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%-%DIMENSIONS%.mkv", fps=23.976, level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%-%DIMENSIONS%.mkv", track=2, lang=eng

deank
2nd March 2009, 21:25
Explain what exactly you're trying to do and I'll try to help.

If you need to set output folder+file via prompt, I suggest you use something like this:


@echo off
set /p infile="Full path to input file : "
echo MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500>%infile%.meta
echo V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "%infile%", fps=23.976, level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng>>%infile%.meta
echo A_AC3, "%infile%", track=2, lang=eng>>%infile%.meta

rack04
2nd March 2009, 21:31
I'm trying to create the following file:

"%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%.meta"

The file should contain the following information:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%-%DIMENSIONS%.mkv", fps=23.976, level=4.1, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "%OUTPUT_DIRECTORY%\%OUTPUT_FILENAME%-%DIMENSIONS%.mkv", track=2, lang=eng

turbojet
2nd March 2009, 21:43
Interesting, do you know how one would get the stream and chapter info (probably from mediainfo) from an mkv to use for making the meta in a batch file?

deank
2nd March 2009, 22:01
Yes, but from mkvinfo.

rack04
2nd March 2009, 22:06
Works great. Thanks.

turbojet
2nd March 2009, 22:07
mkvinfo would work too, just a little messier then mediainfo, could you write an example batch syntax of how to obtain that info and convert it into a variable?

deank
2nd March 2009, 22:11
mediainfo does not report correctly track numbers for mkv files, thus mkvinfo requirement. And, no, it can't be done in a simple bat/cmd file but I can put it in a CLI exe if you need it.

turbojet
2nd March 2009, 22:13
That would be great if you could :)

deank
2nd March 2009, 22:16
Ok. We're getting off-topic in this thread. PM me what exactly you need and I'll post it in another thread tomorrow (or here if it is about .meta creation)


Dean

Chumbo
3rd March 2009, 04:43
If I may please ask for this as a wish list item. Please add the ability to specifically set the PIDs for each stream. Thank you.

One of the main issues is converting to 3GP for portable devices like my phone. The blu-ray spec PIDs are not compatible with the 3GP converter I use. If some of you here convert to 3GP and use a tool that works fine with tsMuxer output files, I would appreciate the info on what converter you use. Thanks a lot.

mrr19121970
3rd March 2009, 08:42
manually overriding PIDs would not make sense. They are also identifiers (primary video, secondary video, primary audio etc etc)

Ryu77
3rd March 2009, 13:15
Looks like a new tsmuxer gui

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/tsmuxergui_workspace.PNG

Looking forward to it! :)

Chumbo
4th March 2009, 02:51
manually overriding PIDs would not make sense. They are also identifiers (primary video, secondary video, primary audio etc etc)
I know what they are. All good muxing software should allow manual overrides, like Manzanita's and VideoRedo, etc. Obviously if you don't know what you're doing, then stay the hell away from the manual settings. Otherwise, sometimes you have to to ensure stream compatibility with other software that expects certain PIDs for video and audio.

mrr19121970
5th March 2009, 10:34
any chance u can update this gui pls for the latest version?


see here

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1257175#post1257175

coolalibaba
6th March 2009, 06:50
just noticed, 1.8.20 is released:
ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/

deank
6th March 2009, 13:46
I don't like seeing SIZE of tsmuxer getting smaller and smaller... :confused:

shon3i
6th March 2009, 16:24
still no changelog :(

DarkZell666
6th March 2009, 17:55
I don't like seeing SIZE of tsmuxer getting smaller and smaller... :confused:

That doesn't mean anything. It might even be a sign of more optimized code, but certainly not reduced functionnality, if that's what you meant :)
Such a small change could even be due to using different compiling options ...

nwg
6th March 2009, 18:30
I don't like seeing SIZE of tsmuxer getting smaller and smaller... :confused:

I only see a 1k size difference with the latest and previous version.

m99
6th March 2009, 21:40
I'm glad there's still someone who can code ;)

m99
6th March 2009, 23:25
BTW! It's actual size is 592KB, just tried UPX on it.

deank
6th March 2009, 23:33
I'm glad there's still someone who can code ;)

And this was supposed to mean... what?

m99
7th March 2009, 00:17
And this was supposed to mean... what?

Many years ago when I could code a vey little I was obsessed with small size and memory consumption (one of the cost was that I used much more time on it). Today I still prefer programs like that, even if I know if everyone did so many programs we use today wouldn't be here before "tomorrow". So; keep up your good work.

deank
7th March 2009, 00:29
Well.. about squeezing... i remember spending hours calculating ns per cpu cycles back in 1988 programming 49000 lines in 65c02 asm (and optimizing endlessly because merlin wouldn't accept more lines) hoping to make hires screen redraw quicker... back then with those BBS systems when I tried to make these small apple ]['s to share files with x86 systems... so i know what taking care of programming sizes and speed means... still don't think tsmuxer is the case as I doubt they did improvements in the code to shrink its size. enough with the offtopic...

ericd
7th March 2009, 17:06
hi
i always have my subs that doesn t appear on my ps3,even with the very last version of tsmuxer1.8.20 ,i try several things ,so in bluray format it doen t work ,in ts format it doesn t work and in m2ts format it doesn t work too !!
so i try to encode in ts mod and read with kmplayer,and at my big surprise kmplayer says when i launch the ts video this message
"a decoder for the new track could not be found" ??? i m sure thats its about the sub track cause when i go in option / subs / in kmplayer i can read this at the subtrack number 1
: S:PID 4608 (french) (what s that??)
does anybody knows what it means ??

thx

ericd

280zx
8th March 2009, 10:53
Never mind I got it sorted out.

idbirch2
8th March 2009, 11:24
Sounds like there is audio/video ovelap at each point the files are split. Try running eac3to on them as that should be able to detect the overlaps and remove them (hopefully, I've never tried it with AVCHD camcorder content.)

Digi
8th March 2009, 12:00
Also i would like to point out that your using "tsremuxer" so you may find help in that thread instead of the tsmuxer thread

ACrowley
8th March 2009, 12:01
I noticed a Problem with the Filesize

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1258813#post1258813

The Output from TSmuxer is bigger compared with a MKV Source.
So its bad when the MKV was calculated to DVD5, for example.

M2TS/TS is around 200MB bigger! I think theres nothing i can do correct ? So i have to calculate an extra of ~230MB Overhead when i calulate the Bitrate for my encodes

deep702
8th March 2009, 12:02
:thanks:

280zx
8th March 2009, 12:07
Sorted out, never mind.

ron spencer
8th March 2009, 16:15
did u see it has a new GUI? No icon in GUI though

DrNein
8th March 2009, 16:36
I noticed a Problem with the Filesize

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1258813#post1258813

The Output from TSmuxer is bigger compared with a MKV Source.
So its bad when the MKV was calculated to DVD5, for example.

M2TS/TS is around 200MB bigger! I think theres nothing i can do correct ? So i have to calculate an extra of ~230MB Overhead when i calulate the Bitrate for my encodes

That is normal. Packet sizes are 192 bytes for M2TS and 188 for TS. So, the calculation for difference in final size is about 2%. For MKV it varies but is less and can be roughly estimated given constant output size required -perhaps 5% less than M2TS or 3% less than TS.

ron spencer
8th March 2009, 17:46
New version out. .21 up from .20

spida_singh
8th March 2009, 19:11
FYI: The new GUI is available in the .20 package, check the file size, replace .20 with the new .21 exe.

clavelm
8th March 2009, 19:31
Hi,
When I try to load that file :
General
Complete name : Z:\DVD\Druaga.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 234 MiB
Duration : 25mn 0s
Overall bit rate : 1 309 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-01-26 07:35:11
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.1 ('Use Me') built on Dec 11 2008 15:41:36
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 24mn 58s
Nominal bit rate : 1 177 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.053
Writing library : x264 core 66 r1088M 71ac0a3
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=0.6:0.0 / mixed_ref=1
/ me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2
/ threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0
/ direct=3 / wpredb=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=1177
/ ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5
/ vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=0
Language : French

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : Yes
Format settings, PS : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 25mn 0s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Language : Japanese

with Tsmuxergui 1.8.4(b) (I download it from the first post and unzip it in a folder), I get that message :
http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9578&stc=1&d=1236537036
And it only loads the H.264 stream but not the aac one.
Someone knows why ? :helpful:
Thanks.
mc

~bT~
9th March 2009, 00:36
^ aac audio is not supported dude.

coolalibaba
9th March 2009, 03:37
.22 is up with GUI.

setarip_old
9th March 2009, 06:47
@~bt~

According to the SmartLabs website, AAC audio is supported:Supported incoming formats:

TS;
M2TS;
Blu-ray;
Demux option.

Supported videocodecs:

H.264
Microsoft VC-1;
MPEG-2.

Supported audiocodecs:

AAC;
AC3 / E-AC3(DD+);
Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only);
DTS/ DTS-HD;
LPCM.

Supported subtitle types:

M2TS Presentation graphic stream.
SRT text subtitles

Supported containers and formats:

Elementary stream;
Transport stream TS and M2TS;
Program stream EVO/VOB/MPG;
Matroska MKV/MKA.

setarip_old
9th March 2009, 06:50
@clavelm

Hi!

Try a more recent version of "tsMuxeR", available at:

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/

idbirch2
9th March 2009, 09:30
M2TS filesizes listed in .CLPIs is still wrong.

clavelm
9th March 2009, 10:26
@clavelm

Hi!

Try a more recent version of "tsMuxeR", available at:

ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/

I tried with the 1.8.22, same thing, aac is not recognized.

jj666
9th March 2009, 11:01
AAC used to work sometimes with .TS captures from Japanese HDTV, support has always been buggy with TSMUXER tho. Why don't you re-encode your original source material to a working audio codec if you need it in a .TS?

-jj-

idbirch2
9th March 2009, 11:49
Does anyone here have a direct line to the TSMuxer devs? I ask because I know lots of people have emailed smlabs about the m2ts size in CLPI bug but it remains unfixed. It's a really simple fix as well, TSMuxer is simply writing the wrong size for the corresponding .m2ts file in each CLPI file. Because of this, if your output is split over multiple .m2ts files, you get horrible pauses at each join point when playing back.

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 13:24
The packet count is correct in all the ones I've looked at in the latest versions. Can someone give me an example of where it is wrong? I just did a blu-ray mux this morning with .22 and it was correct again. The COARSE/FINE tables of the CLPI still have issues, but the packet count bug seems to have been corrected. I'm not aware of a place where the filesize is stored (other than the packet count, which if multiplied by 192 would be the filesize).

Selur
9th March 2009, 13:41
two little request:
1. updated linux build
2. 'Umlaute' support (äÄöÖüÜß)

idbirch2
9th March 2009, 13:53
The packet count is correct in all the ones I've looked at in the latest versions. Can someone give me an example of where it is wrong? I just did a blu-ray mux this morning with .22 and it was correct again.I think we're talking about 2 different issues, the one I'm talking about is the entry in the CLPI which records the size of the corresponding .M2TS file. Deepstar discovered it and posted what to hex edit here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1224939#post1224939). Using his discovery, myself (AVCHDMe) and DeanK (FixClipInf) produced GUI tools for fixing it.

Maybe the problem is not noticable on single-M2TS structures but if you enable splitting in TSMuxer (any size), you get nasty pauses at each split point.

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 14:01
That's exactly the value I'm talking about. In fact I modified FixCLPI in order to fix it. Only now it finds nothing to fix (at least in single M2TS structures) . I'll do some splitting and see what happens.

idbirch2
9th March 2009, 14:21
Yes, I should have been more specific - it only happens when you choose "BluRay Disc" as your output mode in TSmuxer. I have confirmed it screws it up whether you split or not although I doubt it causes any noticable issue with no splitting.

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 14:23
I just ran a Mux using splitting, and I can confirm that FixCLPI also finds the packet values to be incorrect. It seems to work ok for single M2TS blu-ray M2TS structures (at least the ones I've done), but fails when splitting. Also, I can confirm that all the COARSE/FINE entries in the EP tables had to be corrected as well.

Go figure...

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 14:27
Yes, I should have been more specific - it only happens when you choose "BluRay Disc" as your output mode in TSmuxer. I have confirmed it screws it up whether you split or not although I doubt it causes any noticable issue with no splitting. Actually I was talking about blu-ray output.

When I rebuild using BD Rebuilder, I include multiple part M2TSs (just like the original) even though they might have been muxed as though single. So it is important to me that they have the correct values, or else you get the same odd behaviour on playback as a split might. That's why I correct the packet count.

idbirch2
9th March 2009, 14:27
I don't suppose you have a direct line to anyone at smlabs?

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 14:30
Nope. I just found all this by dumping the CLPI files like everybody else...

As simple as the incorrect packet count error is, you'd have thought they would have fixed it by now. Actually the fix for the COARSE/FINE tables isn't rocket science either.

G_M_C
9th March 2009, 15:30
It's starting to look like we need some other app for blu-ray muxing. Although te tsMuxeR development seems to have picked up lately, important changes/bugs/additions are not done.

I do hope someone steps up to the plate to realize this. Too bad i dont have any programming skills; But i'd be a user for shure :)

fifteen
9th March 2009, 15:42
If tsmuxer devs read this:

It seems as though tsmuxer adds garbage at the end of wav files when demuxing...

Please see:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145479

mrr19121970
9th March 2009, 15:46
All Versions Upto V1.8.22:

"E:\TVIX\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR_1.8.22(b)\tsMuxeR.exe" "S:\BDMV\STREAM
\00000.m2ts"
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.22(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Track ID: 4113
Can't detect stream type
Track ID: 4352
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: deu
Track ID: 4353
Stream type: DTS-HD
Stream ID: A_DTS
Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps DTS core + MLP data. Sample Rate: 48KHz Channel
s: 6
Stream lang: eng
Track ID: 4608
Stream type: PGS
Stream ID: S_HDMV/PGS
Stream info: Presentation Graphic Stream #0
Stream lang: deu


BDInfo & eac3to correctly identify this as a VC1 1080i/25

mrr19121970
9th March 2009, 15:55
ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.23(b).zip

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 16:13
Wow. They're rally pumping out the versions now, eh?

Nullity
9th March 2009, 16:56
Wow. They're rally pumping out the versions now, eh?

Be nice if they included a changelog, but I'll still take it. :)

ericd
9th March 2009, 19:51
hi
i always have my subs that doesn t appear on my ps3,even with the very last version of tsmuxer1.8.20 ,i try several things ,so in bluray format it doen t work ,in ts format it doesn t work and in m2ts format it doesn t work too !!
so i try to encode in ts mod and read with kmplayer,and at my big surprise kmplayer says when i launch the ts video this message
"a decoder for the new track could not be found" ??? i m sure thats its about the sub track cause when i go in option / subs / in kmplayer i can read this at the subtrack number 1
: S:PID 4608 (french) (what s that??)
does anybody knows what it means ??

thx

ericd


PLEASE can somebody HELP ME!!!!!

setarip_old
9th March 2009, 21:23
@jdobbs

Hi!Wow. They're rally pumping out the versions now, eh?But the official website is still making only v.1.8.4 available for download - Either lackadaisical about posting updates or there's a reason the subsequent betas are being withheld from official download.

BTW - Any idea of whether the ftp link for all of those betas is owned by "Smartlabs" or (the author) "Roman" (and how the link was obtained)? Just wondering if we should be accessing it...

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 21:35
About all I can say is it's in Russia and it's 15 hops from me :):

...
9 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-0-3-0-xcr1.ash.cw.net [195.2.17.61]
10 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms xe-5-1-0.xcr1.amd.cw.net [195.2.21.177]
11 129 ms 129 ms 129 ms xe-0-0-0.xcr1.skt.cw.net [195.2.25.90]
12 172 ms 172 ms 174 ms goldentel-gw.skt.cw.net [166.63.220.126]
13 187 ms 187 ms 186 ms ccr2-MEN.Moscow.gldn.net [194.67.17.84]
14 151 ms 150 ms 152 ms 213.33.227.190
15 188 ms 191 ms 191 ms 213.221.6.90

Underground78
9th March 2009, 21:41
I don't know if we should have access to that but the sources of the GUI (only) (tsMuxerGUI_1.8.24(b).src.zip) seem to have been released.

shon3i
9th March 2009, 21:42
.24 is out and sourcecode too!!! Amazing just checked ftp :D ftp://213.221.6.90/tsMuxer/

deank
9th March 2009, 22:13
:) GUI source?! It is not helpful at all :)

shon3i
9th March 2009, 22:18
Yes i saw too bad :(. second is Linux version right?

@jdobbs, can you check is bug present?

jdobbs
9th March 2009, 23:03
I went to the link and I don't see .24 there at all. I'm also getting errors when I try to download...

[Edit] Whoops. Looks like I just had to do a refresh.

laserfan
9th March 2009, 23:08
Too many folks hammering the ftp at once probably. I got it and it looks like they're either done fiddling with it, or it's a first attempt at a package as it includes the cli, the gui, the readme (Russian, nothing obvious I could see as differences), and license.

jamos
9th March 2009, 23:54
bug still with LPCM muxing to m2ts and 7.1 channels. moves center channel to right front.

tebasuna51
10th March 2009, 00:58
If tsmuxer devs read this:

It seems as though tsmuxer adds garbage at the end of wav files when demuxing...

Please see:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145479

Was reported to tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv at 2008-11-04

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 02:07
Not sure about the end -- but it definitely adds garbage to the beginning. I had to add "silencer" code (modifying the sample values in the WAV files) to get rid of the loud SNAP at the beginning of WAV files.

teox99
10th March 2009, 12:37
Hi!
FINALLY i compiled tsMuxer GUI for Linux!!!
everythings goes ok and GUI is working perfect!

---
do you think i can post a link to the compiled gui or it's better not for any license restriction?

kooibosmania
10th March 2009, 13:42
JDobbs

Any information of the clpi output in version.24??
in version .23 there were a bunch of 30hex in de streams tracks do you know why ??

You stated fine and corse ep table is no rocket sience can you elaborate on that ??

thanks great fan of fixclpi

mrr19121970
10th March 2009, 14:18
You stated fine and corse ep table is no rocket sience can you elaborate on that ??


Quote:
TSMUXER seems to have a small bug that causes fast-forward, rewind, and seeking issues when creating Blu-ray output.

It appears as though the COARSE/FINE table relationship in the .CLPI file isn't being structured properly. The program correctly creates a new COARSE entry with the PTS rolls over (the LSBs contained in the FINE table get to a point where they will require an increment in the COARSE table). But it appears it doesn't do so (at least not always) when the same thing happens to the COARSE/FINE SPN. As a result, you have combined SPN pointers that suddenly drop to very small values (at least until the next COARSE reference)...

Just thought I'd mention it in case someone is keeping the package up-to-date. If not, I guess I can write a simple program to read/rewrite the CLPI (I'd rather see it fixed in the program, though). I just did one by hand and it fixed the problems -- now rewind/fast-forward works correctly and I no longer get "pauses" when I jump between chapters.

Quote:
Easy to write a program -- a little tedious to do by hand. You have to find the instances where it happens and add a new COARSE entry. The easiest way is to just read the tables into memory and then simply rewrite the COARSE/FINE correctly back into the CLPI file (then change the pointers/references).

Quote:
For example, when you try to reverse it will go a few seconds backward and then start going forward. When you seek to a chapter, you sometimes will hear sound for a few seconds before the picture catches up. Some are worse than others. It all depends how far off the packet pointers are off. ...If you dump the table IT IS VERY OBVIOUS there is a mistake in the CLPI.

Quote:
Attached is a small command line program that will correct the CLPI. Just run it with a single parameter that represents the path to the CLPI file that was created by TSMUXER in blu-ray mode. If it finds the error (it will normally be there except on very small muxes) it will rewrite the CLPI with the tables corrected.

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 15:14
JDobbs
in version .23 there were a bunch of 30hex in de streams tracks do you know why ?? You see that in commercial sources also. Normally those locations hold a 0x00 value... but for some reason, sometimes you see 0x30, which is the ASCII value for "0"... no idea why or what the reasoning is, but it has no affect I can see. It appears to be in the "reserved for future use" areas.

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 15:34
I have a Blu-ray m2ts file loaded in TSMuxer which gives me 2 VC-1 streams.
I only need the 1080p VC-1. can I without problems uncheck the 720p VC-1?

Why are there 2 video streams in this movie?

teox99
10th March 2009, 15:40
some movies provide more than one video traks usually two: 1080p for fullHD and 720p for HDReady display. I think you can easily delete one.

nwg
10th March 2009, 16:03
They also have PIP video but usually is 480p from the ones I have seen.

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 16:06
some movies provide more than one video traks usually two: 1080p for fullHD and 720p for HDReady display. I think you can easily delete one.

But it is in the same m2ts file. Isn't it needed for certain scenes where it switches to the 720p VC-1 or is this wrong thinking?

I have used TSMuxer for Gomorra BD and it plays certain scenes over and over. The main m2ts file is one big one so it isnt that it multiplexed more m2ts files into 1.

I have no clue what could cause this. The audio and subs go on though. Only the video repeats itself afer about 25 min.

teox99
10th March 2009, 16:19
usually are two separated video tracks (in the single m2ts file). audio tracks are the same for both video stream. i think is not possible that the movie mix the video tracks during the stream.

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 16:36
Also when I sometimes load a m2ts file I get the common "Unsupported Format......Some tracks not recognized. This track was ignored..." It points to the m2ts file I just loaded.

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 17:12
I have a Blu-ray m2ts file loaded in TSMuxer which gives me 2 VC-1 streams.
I only need the 1080p VC-1. can I without problems uncheck the 720p VC-1?

Why are there 2 video streams in this movie? Look at the PID. It could be a secondary video stream as nwg mentioned. For example, it may be used for a picture-in-picture function.

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 17:18
But it is in the same m2ts file. Isn't it needed for certain scenes where it switches to the 720p VC-1 or is this wrong thinking?

I have used TSMuxer for Gomorra BD and it plays certain scenes over and over. The main m2ts file is one big one so it isnt that it multiplexed more m2ts files into 1.

I have no clue what could cause this. The audio and subs go on though. Only the video repeats itself afer about 25 min.Don't know the particulars of your case so I'm not sure what applies and what doesn't, but the playback is controlled by the MPLS, not the M2TS. The MPLS can reference portions of an M2TS based on the Start and End times in the playitem() entry.

colinhunt
10th March 2009, 18:27
mrr19121970, your CLIPINF Editor worked like a charm! Thank you EVER SO much!

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 20:06
Don't know the particulars of your case so I'm not sure what applies and what doesn't, but the playback is controlled by the MPLS, not the M2TS. The MPLS can reference portions of an M2TS based on the Start and End times in the playitem() entry.

@jdobbs: where can I find PID?

When I load the BD in BDInfo, the MPLS only points to this particular m2ts file. So what can I do with that?

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 20:08
If you open the M2TS or MPLS in TSMUXER, and select DEMUX it will give you the PID number as a part of the filename in the bottom (META) window.

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 20:31
If you open the M2TS or MPLS in TSMUXER, and select DEMUX it will give you the PID number as a part of the filename in the bottom (META) window.

The only thing I see is: --no-pcr-on-video-pid

teox99
10th March 2009, 20:39
is there any similar solution of BDInfo for linux?

in wine doesn't works.

jdobbs
10th March 2009, 21:37
The only thing I see is: --no-pcr-on-video-pid
You have to open one the M2TS file that has the video in it by clicking on the ADD button. You will then see a line in the bottom that says "Track=" -- if the value is 69xx (this is the PID) it is probably a secondary video track, if it is 41xx it isn't.

Maradona10
10th March 2009, 21:40
You have to open one the M2TS file that has the video in it by clicking on the ADD button. You will then see a line in the bottom that says "Track=" -- if the value is 69xx (this is the PID) it is probably a secondary video track, if it is 41xx it isn't.

oh ok, thanks.

jamos
10th March 2009, 23:50
mrr19121970, your CLIPINF Editor worked like a charm! Thank you EVER SO much!

ermm..do you mean Jdobbs??

jj666
11th March 2009, 01:31
No, he means mrr19121970, he has a different utility built into the ClownBD EAC3TO frontend.

Cheers,

-jj-

coolalibaba
11th March 2009, 04:09
anybody tried the append function in new GUI(.24)? It doesn't work for me. Click the append and select a file it just does nothing.

ericd
11th March 2009, 08:39
PLEASE can somebody HELP ME!!!!!

i just wanted to thx all the people that helps me,(except deank at the very first post)
that means absolutly nobody ,thx again...:(
i thought it was some kind of helping forum but it was a mistake..

ericd

mrr19121970
11th March 2009, 08:46
No, he means mrr19121970, he has a different utility built into the ClownBD EAC3TO frontend.

Cheers,

-jj-

no, it's a different one again (standalone, but same logic):

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247218#post1247218

idbirch2
11th March 2009, 09:45
i just wanted to thx all the people that helps me,(except deank at the very first post)
that means absolutly nobody ,thx again...:(
i thought it was some kind of helping forum but it was a mistake..

ericdMaybe you'd get a better response with an attitude adjustment - screaming that somebody help you 48 hours after your question is posed doesn't normally get people into a helpful mood. Also, try posting more information about your problem, you've essentially just said "Subs don't work on my PS3". You haven't said what format your source file is (BluRay, TS, MKV?) or what format the problem subs are (SUP, SRT, PGS?)

I suspect it's a simple matter of you not outputting to a compatible format - you can only get subs working on a PS3 by burning to a BD/MiniBD or creating an AVCHD structure. If you are streaming from your PC, you won't gets subs no matter what you do.

If this response is not satisfactory, I'm sure Doom9 will refund you in full for the cost of membership. Oh wait...

deank
11th March 2009, 10:19
hi deank its me again thx

well here is a sample of the bluray structure done with tsmuxer and also the meta ,i have to say that it is a 1920x1080p mkv as source,i want to make it works with ps3 or powerdvd8 ,but still no subs!! ansi charset is used with,itry cambria font buti also try with others fonts,still a mystery that nothings appears..
here is the meta of the file

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "L:\movie.mkv", insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng
A_AC3, "L:\movie.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "L:\movie.srt",font-name="Cambria",font-size=70,font-color=0x00FFFFFF,font-charset=0,bottom-offset=70,font-border=1,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, lang=fre


and here is a sample of the .ts iinside the bluray structure ,i mean in the stream folder ,you have the subs in atachment

http://rapidshare.com/files/195062291/try.ts.html

subs http://rapidshare.com/files/195065540/The_Searchers.srt.html

thx for helping as usual deank :cool:

Probably the first question I should have asked is - HOW do you play the output of tsMuxer?

If you try to play m2ts/ts files one by one (via XMB in PS3) - you'll never get the subtitles working. I suggest you try with mutiAVCHD and see if it gives you any errors. I downloaded your samples and will try with them in a minute.

***

I loaded your try.ts sample in multiAVCHD and (using your subtitles try.srt) it produced this:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/eric.jpg

ericd
11th March 2009, 19:12
Maybe you'd get a better response with an attitude adjustment - screaming that somebody help you 48 hours after your question is posed doesn't normally get people into a helpful mood. Also, try posting more information about your problem, you've essentially just said "Subs don't work on my PS3". You haven't said what format your source file is (BluRay, TS, MKV?) or what format the problem subs are (SUP, SRT, PGS?)

I suspect it's a simple matter of you not outputting to a compatible format - you can only get subs working on a PS3 by burning to a BD/MiniBD or creating an AVCHD structure. If you are streaming from your PC, you won't gets subs no matter what you do.

If this response is not satisfactory, I'm sure Doom9 will refund you in full for the cost of membership. Oh wait...

sorry but its not 48 hours its now about 3 months that i try to have an answer from anybody,only one person answered me its deank in 3 months !!!!i put several posts but never ever have answered to my questions ,put yourself at my place,waiting waiting and nothing ,that s right i finally screeam because it was amazing how everybody was talking of their problems and then find answers and me not,it was like i never wrote anything.its like i was invisible!!
and as you can see, just one upper post to yours i said that it was an mkv in 1920x1080 ,you can see the description in the last post of deank,absolutly everything is explain in this post and even there is a 1 minute post in rapidshare of the mkv!!!
so please before saying that i need an attitude adjustment ,read all the posts i already wrote ,and not only the last one !! thx

by the way my problems are resolved with the last version of tsmuxer 1824 b .and it worked in bluray format in ps3 in native resolutions..
and sorry if my english is not good i m french
thx anyway for your answer idbirch2 ,and a BIG THX to DEANK for his helping....

ericd

odin24
11th March 2009, 19:27
The links to the latest tsMuxeRs are down... or at least I cannot connect. Could someone possibly upload the latest version with the most recent GUI.

Atak_Snajpera
11th March 2009, 19:30
http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

setarip_old
11th March 2009, 19:48
I guess the fact that the SmartLabs folks have posted v.1.8.24 at their website (not just an ftp) means it's a presumably stable release.

Unfortunately, the posted "History" does not specifically state whether modifications were made regarding processing of VC-1 files: Bug fixed: Plenty of minoir bug fixed
Bug fixed: Dolby True-HD issue on hardware players fixed
Feature: Tags for SRT subtitles support - tags for changing font, color, size, etc.; tag's syntax is similar to HTML;
Feature: United cross-platform GUI - Windsows, Linux, MacOS.

jtheripper
11th March 2009, 20:11
when I download 108.24 from either smlabs or VCDhelp NOD32 reports a virus. Anyone else have that happen?

deank
11th March 2009, 20:18
Yes it says "probably variant of Win32/Statik application" but I doubt it is anything to worry about.

ericd
11th March 2009, 20:19
when I download 108.24 from either smlabs or VCDhelp NOD32 reports a virus. Anyone else have that happen?


no ,there is no virus it must be an hoax or a false positive,tested with antivir and malwarebytes anti malware ;) it depends of your antivirus program

jdobbs
11th March 2009, 21:03
The only thing worse than a virus that makes your computer impossible to use is an antivirus package that makes your computer impossible to use.

setarip_old
11th March 2009, 21:36
I wonder what might have changed regarding the (false) virus indication? There was no such indication regarding the same zip file downloaded from the ftp yesterday...

Butterfly666
11th March 2009, 22:08
What does this feature means?

Feature: Tags for SRT subtitles support - tags for changing font, color, size, etc.; tag's syntax is similar to HTML;

Anyone knows what this feature can do?

deank
11th March 2009, 22:23
it means that you can use font, color and size in SRT subtitles and have a subtitle line with mixed fonts, colors and sizes... In other words you can have a single subtitle to have several colors/font sizes/fonts. You can experiment with these options in Subtitle Workshop.


<font color="#000000">black text</font>
<font face="Arial">text using Arial font</font>
<font size="12">text using size 12</font>

I'd suggest avoiding such tags. And... they are no longer supported in latest HTML standards.

Butterfly666
11th March 2009, 22:51
deank thank you for the info, you really know everything :)

deank
11th March 2009, 23:08
:) I just do a lot of subtitle-translations when have spare time and I really don't like these tags :)

SeeMoreDigital
12th March 2009, 10:02
I downloaded a movie on blu ray 720p (2.4gb)....You won't get help from anybody on this forum... Please refer to our forum rules, particularly rule 6.

EDIT: And you've "Cross Posted" (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260469#post1260469), See rule 8.

Blackadder
12th March 2009, 10:41
Hi there, i have a question about TSmuxer and Dolby True-HD. On the homepage of TSmuxer i saw this.

Supported audiocodecs:

* AAC;
* AC3 / E-AC3(DD+);
* Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only);
etc.

What's the meaning of "Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only)" Does it mean that it will play only the core ? Or does the True HD track needs an AC3 core and then the musing of True-HD works well. I've tried some to play on my HDX1000 and Onkyo 605 and all the times it displays "True-HD" on the display of my Onkyo. So i assume that the tracks works fine or can it still be only the core. I hope someone knows the answer.

TIA !

Blackadder

teox99
12th March 2009, 11:20
Compiled GUI for Linux (Qt4 package needed)
include tsMuxer Version 1.7.3(b) for linux

http://www.teoxonline.com/utils/Linux_tsMuxer.tar.bz2

---
why the tsMuxer ftp is down???

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 11:39
I emailed smlabs again yesterady about the .m2ts size in .clpi issue and just got a reply! They have said they will fix this bug "during this week" - yay!!

why the tsMuxer ftp is down???Because 1.8.24 is now an official release on smlabs.net

peterjcat
12th March 2009, 12:30
What's the meaning of "Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only)" Does it mean that it will play only the core ? Or does the True HD track needs an AC3 core and then the musing of True-HD works well. I've tried some to play on my HDX1000 and Onkyo 605 and all the times it displays "True-HD" on the display of my Onkyo. So i assume that the tracks works fine or can it still be only the core. I hope someone knows the answer.


It means pretty much what it says. It'll mux the entire TrueHD+AC3 track, as long as there is an interleaved AC3 track (it's not strictly a core). Every Blu-ray TrueHD track should be compliant, only HD DVD has bare TrueHD tracks and need to be converted for tsMuxeR to recognise them.

If your receiver says TrueHD, you're getting TrueHD. If you were picking up the AC3 track only, it would say Dolby Digital or similar. AFAIK none of the NMTs can actually get at the interleaved AC3 track, which is a bit annoying as it turns out, so it's TrueHD or nothing.

B4tm4n
12th March 2009, 12:44
Theres an OS X version available now.

http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 14:30
I've just received a test version (1.8.25) via email from smlabs asking me to check the .m2ts filesize in .clpi issue and I can confirm it is now fixed. I guess 1.8.25 should appear on the smlabs homepage very soon. For those not following the issue, this will fix the pauses at split points when you enable splitting in your BluRay Disc output from TSMuxer. This also means I can remove the hex pathcing from AVCHDMe and get it back it being just a simple renaming tool.

rack04
12th March 2009, 14:39
I've just received a test version (1.8.25) via email from smlabs asking me to check the .m2ts filesize in .clpi issue and I can confirm it is now fixed. I guess 1.8.25 should appear on the smlabs homepage very soon. For those not following the issue, this will fix the pauses at split points when you enable splitting in your BluRay Disc output from TSMuxer. This also means I can remove the hex pathcing from AVCHDMe and get it back it being just a simple renaming tool.

What about the COARSE/FINE tables of the CLPI?

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 14:51
I have no idea how to check those but they supplied the new version within a couple of hours of me mailing them so I doubt the update fixes anything else. If you can point me at a post/thread that details the exact issue i.e. what hex edits are required, I can reply to this mail I got from them asking them to take a look.

deank
12th March 2009, 15:02
It is not really 'hex edit' solution, but here is a thread you can send them a link to:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145092

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 15:25
OK, I've mailed them, hopefully they're as attentive as they were with the first mail.

ultratoto14
12th March 2009, 15:26
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.25(b).zip

to check.

GreenOnyx
12th March 2009, 15:32
anybody tried the append function in new GUI(.24)? It doesn't work for me. Click the append and select a file it just does nothing.

I'm seeing the same thing, has anyone reported this yet?

teox99
12th March 2009, 16:34
same for me. no append.
---
any news about new version of tsMuxer for linux?

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 17:36
Well I got a reply regarding the FINE/COURSE tables:
Ok. I’ll fix this bug today during evening.
The TSMuxer devs have truely come out of hibernation and are squashing bugs like there's no tomorrow! Hooray!

GreenOnyx
12th March 2009, 17:52
Talk about service, I e-mailed about the append and received the response below.

"Thanks for reply. Bug is fixed. Tomorrow I'll update version."

jamos
12th March 2009, 18:12
What is the email that you all are using?

I would like to send them one on the LPCM 7.1 channel issue where its swapping the center channel with the right front channel. also would love to see the import lpcm function fixed (as of now have to use the pcm2tsmu.exe to fix the pcm file).

Atak_Snajpera
12th March 2009, 18:41
tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv

shon3i
12th March 2009, 19:26
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.26(b).zip

no changelog :( can somebody check what bugs fixed ? FINE/COURSE tables or PCM bug?

Also ftp not work anymore?

tebasuna51
12th March 2009, 19:35
What is the email that you all are using?

I would like to send them one on the LPCM 7.1 channel issue where its swapping the center channel with the right front channel. also would love to see the import lpcm function fixed (as of now have to use the pcm2tsmu.exe to fix the pcm file).
Please send me the sample, I think all soft involved is working fine, and ...

I don't want support pcm2tsmu.exe any more, the problem, and the solutions, was reported to tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv at 2008-11-04

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 19:51
I just got emailed about 1.8.26, it's supposed to fix FINE/COURSE

idbirch2
12th March 2009, 19:56
I just tested 1.8.26 and fixclpi 2.31 does not detect any issues with it's output!

rotty
12th March 2009, 20:15
Does anybody know if tsmuxer people (smartlabs) are working on the VC-1 problem with Panasonic players.

For anybody that doesn’t know about this, the latest players from Panasonic the BD35 and BD55 are very strict on Blu Ray structure.

If you copy a VC-1 encoded disc in its entirety just by having AnyDVDHD running and using explorer to get the files to Hard Drive and then burn them with ImgBurn all is ok. (provided it is of a length that will fit on single layer Disc)

BUT

If you use tsmuxer to say copy Movie only, then the resulting files will not play on these players, this is confirmed by all Panasonic users.

Its not just tsmuxer, tsRemuxer also fails to play. People with access to Scenarist have been able to make compliant Movie only VC-1 discs but as you know this program is thousands of pounds/dollars.

As I have said above, this only affects VC-1 original material, H264 seems to be ok. I do NOT want to re-encode to H264 for all the obvious reasons.

Anybody help

laserfan
12th March 2009, 21:52
I just tested 1.8.26 and fixclpi 2.31 does not detect any issues with it's output!Terrific if true--thanks so much idbirch2 for going after 'em for us! Much appreciated!
:thanks:

mrr19121970
12th March 2009, 22:21
VC1 1080i50 streams aren't recognised by tsMuxeR (all versions upto 1.8.26). They are identified ok by tsRemux, BDinfo & eac3to though.

anyone with a smartlab's ear is welcome to mention this to them.

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: WHILE SHE WAS OUT
Disc Size: 22,702,175,210 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 0 bytes
Length: 1:22:24
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps
Video: VC-1 Video / 0 kbps / 1080i / 25 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: German / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Subtitle: German / 0.000 kbps

setarip_old
12th March 2009, 22:45
VC1 1080i50 streams aren't recognised by tsMuxeR (all versions upto 1.8.26).Do you mean only "up to"(meaning through and including v.1.8.24), or "up to and including" v.1.8.26?

jdobbs
12th March 2009, 22:51
I can confirm that the COARSE/FINE tables appear to be alright now with a standard one-part mux. I'm testing with split output now.

[Edit] I can also confirm the COARSE/FINE tables are good on split output.

I can now remove FixCLPI.EXE from the face of the planet. It has no purpose!

ron spencer
12th March 2009, 23:22
is the GUI up to date???

shon3i
13th March 2009, 00:45
I can confirm that the COARSE/FINE tables appear to be alright now with a standard one-part mux. I'm testing with split output now.

[Edit] I can also confirm the COARSE/FINE tables are good on split output.

I can now remove FixCLPI.EXE from the face of the planet. It has no purpose!
Wooohoo!!! thanks for testing and comfirmation jdobbs and idbirch2 :)

So what bugs is still present? PCM-only?

GreenOnyx
13th March 2009, 01:09
The append bug is still present in .26, but supposedly will be fixed tomorrow.

laserfan
13th March 2009, 01:34
I can now remove FixCLPI.EXE from the face of the planet. It has no purpose!It was however much-used, and very much appreciated! Thank you again for having made it available, and for all your testing!
:thanks:

NSI
13th March 2009, 06:06
Also the bug dealing with not being able to detect the format of AC3 steams which changed their channel allocation within the first couple frames has been fixed somewhere along the new development lines.

The only thing I notice now, is as someone else pointed out, there's no icon contained in the tsMuxerGUI.exe file. Not really a bug, just an oversight.

Quatre
13th March 2009, 06:12
the latest version I had of tsMuxeR may have been remuxing mkv to .ts that ultimately did not play on the pch. i dont know if it was a new pch fw but .ts was always super stable and worked 100% on the pch so I fear it may have been the version of tsMuxeR i was using.

is there a new full version now with gui so you dont just have to get the file and then apply it to your old stuff or whatever you had to do before the new release was official?

mrr19121970
13th March 2009, 08:51
Do you mean only "up to"(meaning through and including v.1.8.24), or "up to and including" v.1.8.26?


well i've tried every version from 1.8.4 to 1.8.26 except 1.8.25. if that makes it any clearer.


I can now remove FixCLPI.EXE from the face of the planet. It has no purpose!


I'm going to keep on using it, there is no harm to have proof that it's not needed every time.



Also one chap over on the Slysoft forum is saying that DTS-MA output from tsMuxeR is broken. He says that if you use tsMuxeR again (why ?) on a already tsMuxeRed DTS-MA stream then it's not recognised.



I assume that tsMuxeR will never be able to handle audio overlaps in it's 1 pass archictecture ?

idbirch2
13th March 2009, 09:56
Also the bug dealing with not being able to detect the format of AC3 steams which changed their channel allocation within the first couple frames has been fixed somewhere along the new development lines.Not that I can tell. I just tested this on a 720p MKV which has exactly that problem (2ch AC3 for about 600ms and then 5.1) and TSMuxer still throws the same error it always has. Chopping 1s off the start of the MKv fixed it as always.

zeropc
13th March 2009, 11:32
is there an os x version that's up to date including the clpi fix?

jamos
13th March 2009, 12:12
Wooohoo!!! thanks for testing and comfirmation jdobbs and idbirch2 :)

So what bugs is still present? PCM-only?

still has issues with pcm files over 4 gig. And for me channels are mixed up when muxing lpcm 8 channel. also tsmuxer crashes often when handling large wav files.

mrr19121970
13th March 2009, 12:38
tsMuxeR_1.8.27(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.27(b).zip)

fifteen
13th March 2009, 13:58
tsMuxeR_1.8.27(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.27(b).zip)


1.8.27(b) seems to fix the "add garbage add the end of wav file when demuxing" bug.

Can someone else confirm?

:)

yonta
13th March 2009, 14:08
1080i@60 VC1 video is not detected by any tsMuxeR version.

sample (http://www.sendspace.com/file/e8h77f)

odin24
13th March 2009, 15:03
Hi there, i have a question about TSmuxer and Dolby True-HD. On the homepage of TSmuxer i saw this.

Supported audiocodecs:

* AAC;
* AC3 / E-AC3(DD+);
* Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only);
etc.

What's the meaning of "Dolby True HD (for streams with AC3 core only)" Does it mean that it will play only the core ? Or does the True HD track needs an AC3 core and then the musing of True-HD works well. I've tried some to play on my HDX1000 and Onkyo 605 and all the times it displays "True-HD" on the display of my Onkyo. So i assume that the tracks works fine or can it still be only the core. I hope someone knows the answer.

TIA !

Blackadder

If your Onkyo shows TrueHD then you're good. Blu-ray TrueHD streams have an AC3 "core" embedded, HDDVD TrueHD streams do not... thus incompatibility with certain TrueHD tracks. However, incompatible HDDVD tracks can be demuxed using eac3to for tsMuxeR/BD compatibility.

NSI
13th March 2009, 15:04
Not that I can tell. I just tested this on a 720p MKV which has exactly that problem (2ch AC3 for about 600ms and then 5.1) and TSMuxer still throws the same error it always has. Chopping 1s off the start of the MKv fixed it as always.
Hmmm, I only had one file still around which had that problem before, but it works now. Maybe not all cases have been fixed.

I wonder if they'd want a sample AC3 file which is detected properly by other programs, but still not in tsMuxer?

teox99
13th March 2009, 15:08
hello,
any new update for linux up to Version 1.7.3(b) ?

RobertR
13th March 2009, 15:42
Just have a look at SmartLabs web page (http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html).
Linux version is at 1.8.24 and there is Qt based GUI also.

mrr19121970
13th March 2009, 15:47
tsMuxeR_1.8.28(b) (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.28(b).zip)

shon3i
13th March 2009, 15:48
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.28(b).zip ;)

what is status about TrueHD and DTS-MA? is work correctly standalones?

We are very close to very stable, muxer/demuxer bluray muxer ;)

mrr19121970
13th March 2009, 15:49
1080i@60 VC1 video is not detected by any tsMuxeR version.

sample (http://www.sendspace.com/file/e8h77f)

I guess this is probably the same reason as my problem with VC1 1080i50

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260835#post1260835

as a workaround, you can use tsREmux

deank
13th March 2009, 16:34
I tried with your sample and


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "d:\downloads\fearless.planet.(1080i60.vc-1).ddx2.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=29.970
A_AC3, "d:\downloads\fearless.planet.(1080i60.vc-1).ddx2.m2ts", track=4352, lang=und
A_AC3, "d:\downloads\fearless.planet.(1080i60.vc-1).ddx2.m2ts", track=4353, lang=und

works... I was unable to play the result - but you can check...

You can also try --delPulldown.

GUI doesn't accept it, but CLI (.exe) does if you create a .meta... and tsmuxer accepts it in all its versions:


D:\multiAVCHD\tools>tsmuxer.exe D:\_TEMP\fearless.planet.(1080i60.vc-1).ddx2.meta 123456
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.18(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 29.97
0.2% complete
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
63.6% complete
Processed 696 video frames
100.0% complete
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 1 sec

tebasuna51
13th March 2009, 16:53
1.8.27(b) seems to fix the "add garbage add the end of wav file when demuxing" bug.

Can someone else confirm?

:)
My test (1.8.27b) are ok with 48 KHz samples, but with 96 KHz still there are problems, for instance:

Input file:
4_24_96.wav 23040092 bytes

Demuxed file:
V_42496.track_4352.wav 23045828 bytes

mrr19121970
13th March 2009, 17:12
GUI doesn't accept it, but CLI (.exe) does if you create a .meta... and tsmuxer accepts it in all its versions:


The same problem with mine, but the important part is:


I was unable to play the result


The results are useless, played at the wong speed, audio completely out of sync.

thevoiceover
13th March 2009, 19:11
played at the wong speed, audio completely out of sync.


Same thing that happened to me....



Thank you for calling the city wok.

Do you guys know if any toolkits are required for the OSX version? I get a crash everytime i try to load the .app

kooibosmania
13th March 2009, 19:58
Hi all

ihave noticed that from version 25 on, the tracks languages are not displayed is it me??

greatzzz:thanks:

teox99
13th March 2009, 20:14
hi,
i tried the GUI for Linux but append mode is still not working... what about? is it possible to repurt this bug?

setarip_old
14th March 2009, 02:30
@kooibosmania

Hi!

It's apparently you...

SomeJoe
14th March 2009, 02:43
Hi Gents,

I've been following this thread for a while, and I must say first that I'm very appreciative of all the revisions and fixes that have been coming out lately for TSMuxer. My hat's off to deank and the other programmers who develop it.

I did want to note that even with all the revisions, it seems that TrueHD muxing is still not working properly (see my separate thread, Still Having Problems with TrueHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986). I've tried versions of TSMuxer up to 1.8.26b with the same results (distorted audio when played back on my system - see my thread for details).

I offer to deank and any other developers any information or testing data that they need to get a better understanding of, and hopefully a fix for the issue.

Thanks in advance.

odin24
14th March 2009, 04:13
Hi Gents,

I've been following this thread for a while, and I must say first that I'm very appreciative of all the revisions and fixes that have been coming out lately for TSMuxer. My hat's off to deank and the other programmers who develop it.

I did want to note that even with all the revisions, it seems that TrueHD muxing is still not working properly (see my separate thread, Still Having Problems with TrueHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143986). I've tried versions of TSMuxer up to 1.8.26b with the same results (distorted audio when played back on my system - see my thread for details).

I offer to deank and any other developers any information or testing data that they need to get a better understanding of, and hopefully a fix for the issue.

Thanks in advance.

Sorry if this was mentioned before... and sorry if this insults your intellignece, but; Are you using a v1.3 HDMI cable? Doesn't Iron Man have a high video bit rate, ~30mb/s and ~4.5mb/s 24 bit TrueHD track, wouldn't that most definetly require a v1.3 cable for bitstreaming?

SomeJoe
14th March 2009, 06:43
Sorry if this was mentioned before... and sorry if this insults your intellignece, but; Are you using a v1.3 HDMI cable? Doesn't Iron Man have a high video bit rate, ~30mb/s and ~4.5mb/s 24 bit TrueHD track, wouldn't that most definetly require a v1.3 cable for bitstreaming?

:) Yes, these are proper cables from Monoprice. The same cable carries the signal fine from the original BD, by the way.

By the way, in the technical sense, HDMI cables do not have a "version", as in 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3. The versions of HDMI refer to the protocol used, which is embedded in the devices, not the cable. All HDMI cables are wired the same way, the only difference is the frequencies they support. Thus, it is proper to refer to a category 1 or category 2 HDMI cable, the former being certified for 75 MHz signals, which is sufficient for 720p and 1080i 8-bit color, and the latter being certified for 340 MHz signals, sufficient for 1080p/60 with Deep Color.

All of my HDMI cables are certified category 2.

We determined on about page 4 of that thread I referred to that my Pioneer VSX-1018AH AV receiver is highly sensitive to the TrueHD audio bitstream. In other words, the bitstream that results after TSMuxer has muxed it is slightly out of spec. The error is probably very minor, such that the majority of devices will still decode it properly without a problem (indeed, my Sony BDP-S350 standalone Blu-Ray player will play Blu-Rays muxed by TSMuxer with TrueHD perfectly when decoding the audio internally and sending PCM to the AVR). But when bitstreaming TrueHD audio to the Pioneer, the audio is distorted.

The identical behavior occurs on a Popcorn Hour A110 that is also connected to the same Pioneer AVR. (Audio correct if the PCH decodes internally, distorted if bitstreamed).

I feel it has to be a very minor error in TSMuxer that is causing this behavior, and I want to be able to provide deank with any information he may need to identify the problem.

idbirch2
14th March 2009, 11:41
My hat's off to deank and the other programmers who develop it.

I did want to note that even with all the revisions, it seems that TrueHD muxing is still not working properly...Firstly Dean, while an awesome programmer, is not involved in TSMuxer development, the resident dev here was roman76r but he sadly hasn't been attending for a while.

TrueHD is fixed for most people and definitely for those with PS3s so the best thing you can do is mail smlabs using this (mailto:tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv) address describing your issue in as much detail as possible. Users here, including myself, have had very prompt replies and fixes to issues we have reported.

sebhag
14th March 2009, 13:11
the resident dev here was roman76r but he sadly hasn't been attending for a while.

The replies i had from smlabs were from roman76r as far as i can tell. :) Emailed them about BDAV support for tsmuxer and he said he would implement this in the near future.

Btw, is there an english version of the readme somewhere?

odin24
14th March 2009, 13:26
:) Yes, these are proper cables from Monoprice. The same cable carries the signal fine from the original BD, by the way.

By the way, in the technical sense, HDMI cables do not have a "version", as in 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3. The versions of HDMI refer to the protocol used, which is embedded in the devices, not the cable. All HDMI cables are wired the same way, the only difference is the frequencies they support. Thus, it is proper to refer to a category 1 or category 2 HDMI cable, the former being certified for 75 MHz signals, which is sufficient for 720p and 1080i 8-bit color, and the latter being certified for 340 MHz signals, sufficient for 1080p/60 with Deep Color.

All of my HDMI cables are certified category 2.

We determined on about page 4 of that thread I referred to that my Pioneer VSX-1018AH AV receiver is highly sensitive to the TrueHD audio bitstream. In other words, the bitstream that results after TSMuxer has muxed it is slightly out of spec. The error is probably very minor, such that the majority of devices will still decode it properly without a problem (indeed, my Sony BDP-S350 standalone Blu-Ray player will play Blu-Rays muxed by TSMuxer with TrueHD perfectly when decoding the audio internally and sending PCM to the AVR). But when bitstreaming TrueHD audio to the Pioneer, the audio is distorted.

The identical behavior occurs on a Popcorn Hour A110 that is also connected to the same Pioneer AVR. (Audio correct if the PCH decodes internally, distorted if bitstreamed).

I feel it has to be a very minor error in TSMuxer that is causing this behavior, and I want to be able to provide deank with any information he may need to identify the problem.

Good information, thanks.

deank
14th March 2009, 13:38
is there an english version of the readme somewhere?

It is sticky in the forum: tsMuxer Readme - English (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142559)

jamos
14th March 2009, 16:08
1.8.28 seems to work now with large WAV files..so perhaps we no longer need to use PCM then have to convert using pcm2tsmu for LPCM audio.

quantum
14th March 2009, 16:37
Chapter positions were not correctly retained when using the cutting feature and muxing to Blu-ray. Specifically they were incorrect if the cut started after zero, which would be the second half if you were splitting into two pieces.

Thanks to roman for fixing this.

New version:
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.29(b).zip

sebhag
14th March 2009, 17:41
It is sticky in the forum: tsMuxer Readme - English

Ooops, sorry! Thanks Dean.

ron spencer
14th March 2009, 18:24
was .24 the last version with a gui to download? I am getting lost in these updates LOL

thanks!!!

jamos
14th March 2009, 18:28
was .24 the last version with a gui to download? I am getting lost in these updates LOL

thanks!!!

yes just copy the .24 gui into the folder with the newer tsmuxer.exe's it will work with the newer versions as long as they are in the same directory.

jamos
14th March 2009, 18:45
Am talking with the TSmuxer devs on LPCM and WAV issues with 7.1 they admit there is some channel ordering problems..


From: xxx [mailto:@smartlabs.tv]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:08 PM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: LPCM/WAV 7.1 mixing channel order.



When tsMuxer create LPCM track from 8-th WAV file, muxer made next channel reordering:



5-th WAV channel ---> 4-th LPCM channel

7-th WAV channel ---> 5-th LPCM channel

8-th WAV channel ---> 6-th LPCM channel

6-th WAV channel ---> 7-th LPCM channel

4-th WAV channel ---> 8-th LPCM channel



1-th WAV channel ---> 1-th LPCM channel

2-th WAV channel ---> 2-th LPCM channel

3-th WAV channel ---> 3-th LPCM channel



Seems this reordering is invalid. I’ll recheck this function at nearest time.



I need a clean small sample pcm file to send them..hopefully they will clean up the error with large pcm files also.

mrr19121970
14th March 2009, 19:24
@Jamos

Perhaps you can mention this too:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=183330&postcount=539

If i select BD/iso as final result, works great, all options i select are there, all is good. If i select mt2s as final result and audio is DTS-HD 7.1 on the source, the sound will always be just plain DTS 5.1

So to sum up:

M2TS
DTS-HD 7.1 works ok

Blu-Ray
DTS-HD 7.1 gets downgraded to DTS 5.1

Ryu77
14th March 2009, 21:24
I've also noticed that the append feature seems to be broken in tsMuxeR v1.8.24. It seems to work fine in v1.8.19 though...

Did anyone else notice this?

shon3i
14th March 2009, 21:45
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.29(b).zip :) is up

SomeJoe
14th March 2009, 22:32
Firstly Dean, while an awesome programmer, is not involved in TSMuxer development, the resident dev here was roman76r but he sadly hasn't been attending for a while.

TrueHD is fixed for most people and definitely for those with PS3s so the best thing you can do is mail smlabs using this (mailto:tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv) address describing your issue in as much detail as possible. Users here, including myself, have had very prompt replies and fixes to issues we have reported.


Thanks.

After reading a lot of posts in the thread, I was under the impression that deank was one of the developers.

I'll e-mail SMLabs and see if they can help out.

tebasuna51
14th March 2009, 23:19
I need a clean small sample pcm file to send them..hopefully they will clean up the error with large pcm files also.

You have a clean wav file with pcm contain.

jamos
14th March 2009, 23:27
@Jamos

Perhaps you can mention this too:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=183330&postcount=539



So to sum up:

M2TS
DTS-HD 7.1 works ok

Blu-Ray
DTS-HD 7.1 gets downgraded to DTS 5.1

What I understand from that link is the opposite, dts-hd 7.1 works fine in bluray (which it does) and m2ts downgrades to dts 5.1.

jamos
14th March 2009, 23:29
You have a clean wav file with pcm contain.

did you check the m2ts file after you muxed it and made sure that tsmuxer did not mess with the channel ordering? according to smlabs it should mess it up. if i demux wav or pcm from it will it recorrect the order? I got a sample sent to them they are checking it.

idbirch2
15th March 2009, 00:26
Jamos is right, DTS-HD works fine with "BluRay Disc" output mode. Don't know about .m2ts output, don't use it.

m1482
15th March 2009, 01:42
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.30(b).zip

Mtz
15th March 2009, 02:13
Link not working.

m1482
15th March 2009, 02:54
Link not working.

Yes it is...Try again...

jamos
15th March 2009, 03:55
You have a clean wav file with pcm contain.

I also sent them a link to your pcm2tsmu thread and told them about the large pcm issue, so hopefully they will fix that also.

videobelu
15th March 2009, 10:48
Thanks for this beautiful prog!
The last version 1.8.3.0 have the GUI working for Join files
but there is no a way to select multiple file to join togheter....
when the files are many this will be very useful

Thanks

Ryu77
15th March 2009, 12:17
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.30(b).zip

This version seems to have corrected the issues in the Clip Information File (.clpi)... No more need to apply jdobbs's fixclpi patch! :D

G_M_C
15th March 2009, 12:25
Okay :)

Can we conclude most of the standing bugs are solved ?
CLPI's are build correctly ?
Pachetsize/filesize is set correctly ?
TrueHD is muxed correctly ?

How's fforwarding/reversing and/or chapter skipping working now ?

shon3i
15th March 2009, 12:29
How's fforwarding/reversing and/or chapter skipping working now ? Fine here :)

idbirch2
15th March 2009, 12:43
This version seems to have corrected the issues in the Clip Information File (.clpi)... No more need to apply jdobbs's fixclpi patch! :DThat was done several versions ago - see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260807#post1260807) and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260843#post1260843).

Underground78
15th March 2009, 13:15
Can we conclude most of the standing bugs are solved ?

I think there is something wrong with AAC tracks in MKV, they are not correctly detected by TsMuxer when importing the MKV and the only way to import them is to demux them from the MKV first.

arrgh
15th March 2009, 13:49
really nice to see, that here after some time further progress is done...

do these new versions recognize forced subtitles in bluray-mpls files?

SeeMoreDigital
15th March 2009, 13:51
How about the following changes to the (MPEG-2) "AR" layout: -

http://i40.tinypic.com/vg6jrm.png


Cheers

Ryu77
15th March 2009, 13:53
That was done several versions ago - see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260807#post1260807) and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260843#post1260843).

Ok, but the append feature was broken in the last version I tried (v1.8.24), which also had not corrected the clpi issues... So I didn't realise that was the case until this version. Thanks for pointing that out.

There have been several versions released within the last few days so I think I can be forgiven for being a little "behind" in the times. :p

odin24
15th March 2009, 14:38
Since the new versions have been coming out... and since the TrueHD bug has been fixed, has anyone experienced issues with TrueHD muxing?

I muxed a TrueHD movie maybe a week or 10 days ago, I cannot remember what version I used. The TrueHD does not play... sorta, the center channel is not present, surrounds and fronts are playing. The AC3 core works fine.

I'm demuxing from my AVCHD FAT32 collection and I'm going to re-process as a new THD+AC3 and PCM tracks... we'll see.

jamos
15th March 2009, 14:49
Since the new versions have been coming out... and since the TrueHD bug has been fixed, has anyone experienced issues with TrueHD muxing?

I muxed a TrueHD movie maybe a week or 10 days ago, I cannot remember what version I used. The TrueHD does not play... sorta, the center channel is not present, surrounds and fronts are playing. The AC3 core works fine.

I'm demuxing from my AVCHD FAT32 collection and I'm going to re-process as a new THD+AC3 and PCM tracks... we'll see.

true hd and dts-hd ma work fine but some persons have issues with bitstreaming it through hdmi from a standalone player.

jamos
15th March 2009, 14:50
Talked with smlabs folks and thier take on using pcm files is that they must contain the 4 byte HDMV_LPCM_audio_data_header on each frame before being used with tsmuxer..hence we may not be able to get rid of using pcm2tsmu on pcm files from eac3to.:mad:

they did slip me a bit of source code..hehe


This file does not contain LPCM audio headers, so tsMuxeR can’t recognize file format.

Each LPCM frame MUST be preced 4 byte HDMV_LPCM_audio_data_header





Syntax No. of bits Mnemonics

HDMV_LPCM_audio_data_header() {

audio_data_payload_size 16 uimsbf

channel_assignment 4 bslbf

sampling_frequency 4 uimsbf

bits_per_sample 2 uimsbf

start_flag 1 bslbf

reserved 5 bslbf

}

odin24
15th March 2009, 17:25
true hd and dts-hd ma work fine but some persons have issues with bitstreaming it through hdmi from a standalone player.


I'm using a PS3, FAT32 1TB external, and AVCHDManager. The problem is gone now. I demuxed, remuxed with the latest version of tsMuxeR, which I know handles TrueHD fine... and it works, both the TrueHD and the PCM file I created.

jdobbs
15th March 2009, 19:46
How's fforwarding/reversing and/or chapter skipping working now ? I think all that was fixed in v1.8.28.

[Edit] Looks like I'm behind in my reading... this has already been discussed... ignore this post. :)

MAVLL
16th March 2009, 02:37
greetings.

i use tsmuxer for create a blu ray structure, but the final size is to big to burn in a dvd-5 4.7gb. I use tsspliter but when i split the file i cannot see the subtitles. But in a another file and smaller file <4.7gb i can see the subtitles very well. Any suggestions??
thanks in advanced.

jamos
16th March 2009, 05:24
greetings.

i use tsmuxer for create a blu ray structure, but the final size is to big to burn in a dvd-5 4.7gb. I use tsspliter but when i split the file i cannot see the subtitles. But in a another file and smaller file <4.7gb i can see the subtitles very well. Any suggestions??
thanks in advanced.

Why dont you just use tsmuxer to split and use m2ts muxing into 4 gig. sizes and then use tsmuxer with each m2ts and create 2 bd structures I believe it works that way.

turbojet
16th March 2009, 08:19
I've never had much luck with tsmuxer splitting and subtitles/chapters, I don't why it doesn't display subtitles correctly, the timing is right and all. The chapter problem is trivial. But PopBD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145482) does something like jamos describes except all in one mux somehow. People have reported subs working on hardware players.

What I have had luck with for subtitle displays on software and hardware players (the chapters are still messed up) is splitting with mkvmerge then creating BD structures from the split files, it doesn't support sup subtitles though which is a real shame. I used to have a batch file that would split mkv's in half with dragging and dropping to it. It was something like this (doesn't work)
@echo off
for /f "delims=" %%i in ('dir /od /b "%1"') do (
SET size=%%~zi
)
set /a halfsize=%size%/2
"mkvmerge" -o "%1-.mkv" -S %1 --split size:%halfsize%
pause

MAVLL
16th March 2009, 12:32
Why dont you just use tsmuxer to split and use m2ts muxing into 4 gig. sizes and then use tsmuxer with each m2ts and create 2 bd structures I believe it works that way.


Yeah, i have done that in first place but no results :-(


Turbojet, i also use mkmergue, and i already tried in my case to split with mkmergue the file and later create the BD structure from the split files but no results. My subtitles is SRT.

shon3i
16th March 2009, 14:36
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.31(b).zip

jamos
16th March 2009, 14:39
Yeah, i have done that in first place but no results :-(


Turbojet, i also use mkmergue, and i already tried in my case to split with mkmergue the file and later create the BD structure from the split files but no results. My subtitles is SRT.

try popbd and if your using a software dvd player use windvd 9 in folder mode and not powerdvd as it sucks with avchd.

madshi
16th March 2009, 16:10
FWIW, the bugs I reported have just been fixed. Also I've been told that WAV64 input support is coming in a future version. :) So the 4GB problem should soon be gone.

So things are looking good, as far as I can say!

rack04
16th March 2009, 16:31
I just sent them an email asking about the ability to retain MKV chapters. The only way that I've been able to do it is to create a custom chapter list using the chapter marks from eac3to.

shon3i
16th March 2009, 17:01
I just sent them an email asking about the ability to retain MKV chapters. The only way that I've been able to do it is to create a custom chapter list using the chapter marks from eac3to.
Adding chapters is not only copy from mkv or eac3to chapterlist, you must encode stream with specific I frames.

MAVLL
16th March 2009, 17:28
try popbd and if your using a software dvd player use windvd 9 in folder mode and not powerdvd as it sucks with avchd.

thanks.

A few hours ago i tried with POPBD and still see and hear all good, but the subtitles i can't see. As i told before, only when i split the file.


When i push the remote control it let me select the language, in my case only a subtitle, but no display anything.


Thank you for all your recomendations.

rack04
16th March 2009, 17:43
Adding chapters is not only copy from mkv or eac3to chapterlist, you must encode stream with specific I frames.

I see. I did a search and found qpfilegen. I'll test. Thanks.

GreenOnyx
16th March 2009, 17:56
Any chance someone could help clarify the LPCM bug being discussed? Is it for LPCM 7.1 sources only and not LPCM 5.1? Does it only occur when the output is not full blu-ray structure?

G_M_C
16th March 2009, 18:58
FWIW, the bugs I reported have just been fixed. Also I've been told that WAV64 input support is coming in a future version. :) So the 4GB problem should soon be gone.

So things are looking good, as far as I can say!

Thx, madshi

(But i have to apolegize for the fact that i've forgotten what the you reported actually bugs were :scared:)

tebasuna51
16th March 2009, 19:25
Any chance someone could help clarify the LPCM bug being discussed? Is it for LPCM 7.1 sources only and not LPCM 5.1? Does it only occur when the output is not full blu-ray structure?

Test with TsMuxer 1.8.30

1) Wav file 24bits 48KHz 7.1 (FL,FR,FC,LF,BL,BR,SL,SR)

muxed with a video file to obtain 1Test_wav.m2ts
- Played in PC with MPlayerC HC and output by 7.1 analog: all OK.
- Extracted wav from m2ts by TsMuxer identical to original
- Extracted wav from m2ts by eac3to Back <-> Side channels inverted

2) Pcm file from wav (eac3to) FL,FR,FC,SL,BL,BR,SR,LF and headers (Pc2Tsmu)

muxed with a video file to obtain 2Test_pcm.m2ts
- Played in PC with MPlayerC HC and output by 7.1 analog: Back <-> Side channels inverted
- Extracted wav from m2ts by TsMuxer Back <-> Side channels inverted
- Extracted wav from m2ts by eac3to identical to original wav.

Test_tsm1830.7z (http://www.sendspace.com/file/whtjzn)

I never found problems with Front or LFE channels.

shon3i
16th March 2009, 19:50
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.32(b).zip

G_M_C
16th March 2009, 20:07
Damn they're on a roll now :eek:

Jagged
16th March 2009, 20:18
Damn they're on a roll now :eek:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.33(b).zip

:D

Nullity
16th March 2009, 22:36
After all these great releases and bug fixes lately, the only feature I'm still hoping for is a changelog with each new release.

jamos
16th March 2009, 23:51
FWIW, the bugs I reported have just been fixed. Also I've been told that WAV64 input support is coming in a future version. :) So the 4GB problem should soon be gone.

So things are looking good, as far as I can say!

good to hear...

jamos
17th March 2009, 01:21
I never found problems with Front or LFE channels.

think you would only find that if you had a 7.1 receiver.

jamos
17th March 2009, 01:34
Any chance someone could help clarify the LPCM bug being discussed? Is it for LPCM 7.1 sources only and not LPCM 5.1? Does it only occur when the output is not full blu-ray structure?

I have only noticed it with 7.1 LPCM.

jamos
17th March 2009, 03:17
Test with TsMuxer 1.8.30

1) Wav file 24bits 48KHz 7.1 (FL,FR,FC,LF,BL,BR,SL,SR)

muxed with a video file to obtain 1Test_wav.m2ts
- Played in PC with MPlayerC HC and output by 7.1 analog: all OK.
- Extracted wav from m2ts by TsMuxer identical to original
- Extracted wav from m2ts by eac3to Back <-> Side channels inverted

2) Pcm file from wav (eac3to) FL,FR,FC,SL,BL,BR,SR,LF and headers (Pc2Tsmu)

muxed with a video file to obtain 2Test_pcm.m2ts
- Played in PC with MPlayerC HC and output by 7.1 analog: Back <-> Side channels inverted
- Extracted wav from m2ts by TsMuxer Back <-> Side channels inverted
- Extracted wav from m2ts by eac3to identical to original wav.

Test_tsm1830.7z (http://www.sendspace.com/file/whtjzn)

I never found problems with Front or LFE channels.

On the wav file the lfe was ok, the center and right front were mixed and the rear channels mixed up.

on the pcm the lfe and center and right front were all messed up including the rear channels.

this is from a ps3 with a 7.1 receiver.

my guess on why its not behaving exactly simular with software players on the computer because generally they are more forgiving than standalone players with playback (for example when tsmuxer had a bug with true-hd muxing it would play fine with windvd 9 on my computer but on my ps3 you would get no sound).

Mtz
17th March 2009, 05:10
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.34(b).zip

enjoy,
Mtz

G_M_C
17th March 2009, 08:30
Did anyone see changelogs ? I cant seem to find them anymore (even on slysoft's forum).

kurt
17th March 2009, 08:34
Did anyone see changelogs ? I cant seem to find them anymore (even on slysoft's forum).

just the outdated history (http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsmuxer_history_en.html)....

deank
17th March 2009, 12:58
It is updated.

Version 1.8.30(b):

* Bug fixed: ts/m2ts splitting fixed
* Bug fixed: FINE/COARSE table in clpi file fixed
* Bug fixed: track type for DD+ fixed
* Bug fixed: Append button in GUI fixed
* Bug fixed: Drag&drop for macOsX fixed
* Bug fixed: some other minoir bug fixed

Version 1.8.24(b):

* Bug fixed: Plenty of minoir bug fixed
* Bug fixed: Dolby True-HD issue on hardware players fixed
* Feature: Tags for SRT subtitles support - tags for changing font, color, size, etc.; tag's syntax is similar to HTML;
* Feature: United cross-platform GUI - Windows, Linux, MacOS.

laserfan
17th March 2009, 14:43
I'd like to see SMlabs make the Jump To Title an option. At present the muxed movies loop-back to the beginning always, and I have to use BD Edit to add a Break at the end and delete the Jump to Title instruction, just to get the movie to stop when it's finished!

idbirch2
17th March 2009, 15:19
Then you know what to do (mailto:tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv).

piratburner
17th March 2009, 17:45
Just a question :-)

I have severel m2ts files with TrueHD,DTS-MA and LPCM Wich tool can I check so they have right channel order ?

And what are the right order for
Truehd
DTS-MA
LPCM

Both 5.1 and 7.1


Thanks

And have a nice day

laserfan
17th March 2009, 17:50
I'd like to see SMlabs make the Jump To Title an option.

Then you know what to do (mailto:tsmuxer@smartlabs.tv).Thanks for the reminder. I did it!

BlackJack1
17th March 2009, 23:43
Where can I find newest GUI for ver. 1.8.34?

GreenOnyx
17th March 2009, 23:49
Where can I find newest GUI for ver. 1.8.34?

I believe 1.8.30 is the latest GUI out, the version for the GUI is different, they're not in sync. You can get it at smlabs or videohelp.

BlackJack1
17th March 2009, 23:57
I understand that newest 1.8.34 will not work with GUI created for 1.8.30.. right?
So I must use GUI with older ver. 1.8.30? Correct?

sidekick2
18th March 2009, 00:13
I think someone here said you can just put the new non-gui file, in the same directory as the gui, and the gui uses it.

I'm not sure if this is 100% correct.

Or... to make sure, I setup everything in the gui, save the meta file, and use the command line to process the meta file.

**EDIT**
I just tried renaming the tsmuxer.exe in the gui directory, and if you try and mux, it complains that it can't find tsmuxer.exe. It for sure uses the tsmuxer.exe in the same dir as the gui.

jamos
18th March 2009, 00:26
I understand that newest 1.8.34 will not work with GUI created for 1.8.30.. right?
So I must use GUI with older ver. 1.8.30? Correct?

1.8.30 gui will work with 1.8.34 just put them in same directory.

phigment
18th March 2009, 20:22
I have video recorded from a Canon 5D mark II. When I try to mux the (extracted) elementary stream with TsMuxer I get

SPS picture order 2 not supported.

I searched on the forum and it appears that this issue was raised in march 2008, but I don't see any resolution. Does anybody know of a way to mux these "picture order 2" streams?

I have some sample clips if somebody wants to take a look. I would just need somewhere to upload them.

shv
18th March 2009, 21:10
Does anybody have also the problem with the 1.8.30 GUI that it is flickering while a file is droped onto it? Looks like a black frame insertion...

Quatre
18th March 2009, 22:32
where is the best site to dl the latest full version of tsMuxeR?

setarip_old
19th March 2009, 01:35
@shv

Hi!Does anybody have also the problem with the 1.8.30 GUI that it is flickering while a file is droped onto it? Looks like a black frame insertion...Actually, with my desktop, it makes the tsMuxeR window momentarily semi-transparent!

DaGoatRancher
19th March 2009, 04:16
where is the best site to dl the latest full version of tsMuxeR?

http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

moleyman69
21st March 2009, 00:41
Hi,

Anyone know when the Mac version of 1.8.34 might be available?

Thanks,

Moley

B4tm4n
21st March 2009, 11:37
Hi,

Anyone know when the Mac version of 1.8.34 might be available?

Thanks,

Moley

Roman said he would try to do a Tiger version this weekend, if possible.
So there could be a new OS X version up this weekend.

ron spencer
21st March 2009, 20:54
nice to see so many updates....appreciated

G_M_C
22nd March 2009, 12:04
Roman said he would try to do a Tiger version this weekend, if possible.
So there could be a new OS X version up this weekend.

By the way;
Where / what forum can we go and thank Roman for all his work ?

deank
22nd March 2009, 12:12
I used their email, but if you have AOL/OpenID you can do it at smlabs blog (http://blog.smartlabs.tv/search/label/tsMuxeR).

B4tm4n
22nd March 2009, 12:41
By the way;
Where / what forum can we go and thank Roman for all his work ?

I used their email, but if you have AOL/OpenID you can do it at smlabs blog (http://blog.smartlabs.tv/search/label/tsMuxeR).

Yeah, Deanks right I used his email from the download page http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html.

moleyman69
22nd March 2009, 21:01
And as if by magic...

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.35(b).zip

kolak
22nd March 2009, 21:34
It goes up to 1.8.8


Andrew

setarip_old
22nd March 2009, 22:41
@kolak

Although a logical presumption, you are misinterpreting the numbering being used. Version 1.8.8 is an OLDER version than version 1.8.35.

(In the logical world, 1.8.8 would have been named version 1.8.08)

idbirch2
22nd March 2009, 23:36
And as if by magic...

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.35(b).zipNice - comes with a new GUI too with options to output BluRay or AVCHD, I guess this means they've worked out all little differences between the two formats which should fix most if not all of the compatiblity issues with some hardware players.

idbirch2
23rd March 2009, 00:34
Hmm, OK, smlabs have made the bizarre move of choosing a new file naming convention if you select split AVCHD output mode. The .m2ts files are now named 00000.split.1.m2ts, 00000.split.2.m2ts etc. This completely breaks compatiblity with players like the PS3 because its still easy to change .m2ts to .mts but the filename is too long (must be 8.3). Its also no good renaming the .m2ts files to 00001.mts, 00002.mts etc as the clpi files reference them by name. I've emailed them about this, hopefully they fix it.