smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[rica]

However, until a buy a NMT based player, I cannot play the file.


Why not give it a go with arcsoftTMT+analog speakers?

[Beastie Boy]

Why not give it a go with arcsoftTMT+analog speakers?

I only have the trial version, installed purely for the decoders. If I try to use the app to open HD files, it seems to hang and I have to kill it. I never bothered to try and fix it as I don't watch this stuff on a PC.

Cheers, Beastie.

[hdpete]

For those not familiar with eac3to, the program has recently been updated to provide output of a Bluray compatible TrueHD track, ie. TrueHD with AC3. The good news is that this stream is accepted by tsMuxeR and recognised as TrueHD :)

eg. eac3to inputFile Output.thd+ac3

I successfully muxed a m2ts file with tsMuxeR, and eac3to indicated that the resulting file did contain TrueHD data. However, until a buy a NMT based player, I cannot play the file.

As ever, please post any eac3to questions in the eac3to thread.

Cheers, Beastie.


It doesn't seem to work for me.

I backed up a blu-ray to hard drive, extracted the TrueHD audio using eac3to using the file extension thd+ac3, muxed it back to the video file in tsMuxer and created a blu-ray. Built an image with ImgBurn and burnt to a BD-RE, but it gave no sound when played back through my Sony BDP-S350 via HDMI to my Onkyo TX-NR905 amp, video played fine. TsMuxer just don't like TrueHD!

[madshi]

It doesn't seem to work for me.

I backed up a blu-ray to hard drive, extracted the TrueHD audio using eac3to using the file extension thd+ac3, muxed it back to the video file in tsMuxer and created a blu-ray. Built an image with ImgBurn and burnt to a BD-RE, but it gave no sound when played back through my Sony BDP-S350 via HDMI to my Onkyo TX-NR905 amp, video played fine. TsMuxer just don't like TrueHD!
What happens if you run the tsMuxeR created m2ts file through TsRemuxer? Maybe that fixes the problem?

[rica]

What happens if you run the tsMuxeR created m2ts file through TsRemuxer? Maybe that fixes the problem?

What i wonder is the output file extension; which one is true:
thd or thd+ac3 as an output?

[Duppie]

It doesn't seem to work for me.

I backed up a blu-ray to hard drive, extracted the TrueHD audio using eac3to using the file extension thd+ac3, muxed it back to the video file in tsMuxer and created a blu-ray. Built an image with ImgBurn and burnt to a BD-RE, but it gave no sound when played back through my Sony BDP-S350 via HDMI to my Onkyo TX-NR905 amp, video played fine. TsMuxer just don't like TrueHD!

Look at the following post. I have tested all of this previously:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1170182&postcount=1875

In short:
tsMuxer - Good for PCM and DTS-HD
TsRemux - Good for TrueHD

tsMuxer just does not work with Dolby TrueHD. So, try TsRemux if you want to keep TrueHD. It worked for me. The other alternative is to convert Dolby TrueHD to PCM and then use tsMuxer. It also works very well.

[Beastie Boy]

Look at the following post. I have tested all of this previously:

Duppie, excellent post. I don't know how I missed that one. Does tsRemuxer maintain the <4GB files created by tsMuxeR?

Does anyone have one of the new NMT based players with HDMI 1.3 that can test the tsMuxer output? The firmware to output HD Audio streams is not final yet but I believe beta versions are available.

Cheers, Beastie.

[Duppie]

Duppie, excellent post. I don't know how I missed that one. Does tsRemuxer maintain the <4GB files created by tsMuxeR?

Yes, you use tsMuxeR or HDBDSplitGUI to spilt the files in 4 gig chunks and then mux the result through tsRemux. This I only do for TrueHD. For the rest (PCM and DTS-HD) I only use tsMuxeR.

[N1KLAS]

Hi,

I've got the following problem by using tsMuxeR.

First of all, I'm happy with the tsMuxeR-programm, it's the best program for me and every video that i "mux" into a Blu-ray structure (also containing subtitles) are playable in my Blu-ray Player without any problems.

But I have one problem with only one video.
When I mux the video with .srt subtitles into a Blu-ray strucure, and open it with MediaInfo then, it says that there is a Video0 Delay about 36min...
look here (below):
Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video0 Verzögerung : 36min

In all other videos, there isn't any delay of course, i dont know how it came to this delay here ?
Does anybody know?

What could be the problem?

I hope you could help :)

Hi, .. could somebody help me please ??
It's only with this video..

[Beastie Boy]

Yes, it works!

Good to hear.

[odin24]

Hi, .. could somebody help me please ??
It's only with this video..

Did you play the movie, is there a delay? It might just be a bug.

[N1KLAS]

Did you play the movie, is there a delay? It might just be a bug.

hi, when i play this video with my Blu-ray Player, and switch on the subtitles, they aren't shown.
But at the end of the video, ~ the last 2, 1 seconds, funnily enough, there appear some subtitles, but veerrry fast back-to-back..
It's very strange that they are shown at the end, and then soo fast. Every other video is playable perfectly with subtitles.
i don't understand why it doesn't work with this video..:confused:

[Jeff Flowerday]

Duppie, excellent post. I don't know how I missed that one. Does tsRemuxer maintain the <4GB files created by tsMuxeR?

Does anyone have one of the new NMT based players with HDMI 1.3 that can test the tsMuxer output? The firmware to output HD Audio streams is not final yet but I believe beta versions are available.

Cheers, Beastie.

The new NMT players don't actually support the HD audio yet. :mad:

Apparently they released the product and then someday will give us a firmware capable of doing it.

[Jeff Flowerday]

Question: Why would tsmuxer not be able to recognize the TrueHD track on 300? I keep getting invalid stream messages, straight from the evo or from the .thd file created from eac3to.

[Beastie Boy]

The new NMT players don't actually support the HD audio yet. :mad:

Apparently they released the product and then someday will give us a firmware capable of doing it.

I've ordered the HDX 1000. I asked on mpcclub forums about HD audio and whether I would need beta firmware, but apparently HD audio passthrough will work 'out of the box'. This was from HDX1080 staff. Here (http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45)is a link to the post.

Cheers, Beastie.

[Beastie Boy]

Question: Why would tsmuxer not be able to recognize the TrueHD track on 300? I keep getting invalid stream messages, straight from the evo or from the .thd file created from eac3to.

Have you tried demuxing with eac3to using the .thd+ac3 file extension, renaming to .ac3 and then importing?

Cheers, Beastie.

[Jeff Flowerday]

I've ordered the HDX 1000. I asked on mpcclub forums about HD audio and whether I would need beta firmware, but apparently HD audio passthrough will work 'out of the box'. This was from HDX1080 staff. Here (http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45)is a link to the post.

Cheers, Beastie.

It doesn't out the the box on my Popcorn Hour A-110 nor does it on the egreat m31b.

Hopefully they aren't pulling your leg.

[Jeff Flowerday]

Have you tried demuxing with eac3to using the .thd+ac3 file extension, renaming to .ac3 and then importing?

Cheers, Beastie.

Trying right now...

[Beastie Boy]

It doesn't out the the box on my Popcorn Hour A-110 nor does it on the egreat m31b.

Hopefully they aren't pulling your leg.

There's a guy over there that has received his unit. I will ask if he is able to test. Fingers crossed.

[Jeff Flowerday]

Have you tried demuxing with eac3to using the .thd+ac3 file extension, renaming to .ac3 and then importing?

Cheers, Beastie.

Thanks that worked like a charm. Didn't even have to rename the file.

[N1KLAS]

hi, when i play this video with my Blu-ray Player, and switch on the subtitles, they aren't shown.
But at the end of the video, ~ the last 2, 1 seconds, funnily enough, there appear some subtitles, but veerrry fast back-to-back..
It's very strange that they are shown at the end, and then soo fast. Every other video is playable perfectly with subtitles.
i don't understand why it doesn't work with this video..:confused:

Does anybody know why and how to override?

[Ljubus]

My best format to fit on a DVD is to get the audio down at least 300mb. Usually if I have a 640kb 6 channel I will convert 224kb 6 channel. Then TSmuxeR converts that close to 4.37gb. The video I never touch.

That's if the MKV you have is 4.37gb to begin with.

hey

does anybody know how can I convert audio from 640 kb to 224 kb, so I can fit the converted movie to 1 DVD ?

Thank you :)

[rica]

Thanks that worked like a charm. Didn't even have to rename the file.

You can demux to thd+ac3 directly which really has an ac3 core. But remuxing it with TSMuxer never gives true hd sound; if you are getting sound it is most probably the core ac3.

So the way you should follow is remuxing m2ts file (which you got by TSMuxer) again into an m2ts or BR via TSRemux.
In this case thd gives sound. (not core ac3)

[EPiPH0NE]

hey

does anybody know how can I convert audio from 640 kb to 224 kb, so I can fit the converted movie to 1 DVD ?

Thank you :)

eac3to input.ac3 output.ac3 -224

[Jeff Flowerday]

You can demux to thd+ac3 directly which really has an ac3 core. But remuxing it with TSMuxer never gives true hd sound; if you are getting sound it is most probably the core ac3.

So the way you should follow is remuxing m2ts file (which you got by TSMuxer) again into a m2ts or BR via TSRemux.
In this case thd gives sound. (not core ac3)

Thanks for the heads up.

[Ljubus]

eac3to input.ac3 output.ac3 -224


hmmm i would need a whole proceedure :)

[rica]

eac3 is a program, am i correct ? pretty big one for this simple task - over 500 MB ?

ty :)

Yes, eac3to is a great program which is not just an audio demuxer/converter.
Just use search.

[Ljubus]

Yes, eac3to is a great program which is not just an audio demuxer/converter.
Just use search.

ok i searched this forum and google, downloaded eac3to and aften-A52 encoder ...... read "tutorial" ---> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use

and i have no idea how to use it :confused:

where is the command line ? when i click eac3to.exe there is a window but it disappears in 2 seconds .....

[rica]

ok i searched this forum and google, downloaded eac3to and aften-A52 encoder ...... read "tutorial" ---> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use

and i have no idea how to use it :confused:

where is the command line ? when i click eac3to.exe there is a window but it disappears in 2 seconds .....

OK, make an empty folder named eac3to under C , extract ec3to into this folder.
Now start menu > all programs > accessories > command prompt, right click on it and "run as adminastrator"; command prompt window will be opened.

write:

eac3to\eac3to.exe "input folder\input file" "output folder\output file" (enter...)

For more details see:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use


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[N1KLAS]

hi, when i play this video with my Blu-ray Player, and switch on the subtitles, they aren't shown.
But at the end of the video, ~ the last 2, 1 seconds, funnily enough, there appear some subtitles, but veerrry fast back-to-back..
It's very strange that they are shown at the end, and then soo fast. Every other video is playable perfectly with subtitles.
i don't understand why it doesn't work with this video..:confused:

Does anybody know why and how to override?

[n0mag!c]

But I have one problem with only one video.
When I mux the video with .srt subtitles into a Blu-ray strucure, and open it with MediaInfo then, it says that there is a Video0 Delay about 36min...
I noticed, that TsMuxer incorrectly mux PGS subtitles when any delay has being specified. Can anyone confirm this?
Maybe this is the same issue with SRT subtitles? Did you specified any delay with this video?

[N1KLAS]

I noticed, that TsMuxer incorrectly mux PGS subtitles when any delay has being specified. Can anyone confirm this?
Maybe this is the same issue with SRT subtitles? Did you specified any delay with this video?

Hi,

when i play the video, there isnt any delay between video and audio. MediaInfo says that there is a Video0 delay about 36min (Subtitles), when i mux this video with .srt subtitles by using tsMuxeR.
But when I play the muxed video with my Blu-ray player, and switch on the subtitles, no subtitles appear. (-> I think that the Video0-delay acts a part)
But at the end of the video, about the last 1 or 2 seconds, funnily enough, there appear some subtitles, but veerrry fast back-to-back..
It's very strange that they are shown at the end, and then soo fast. Every other video is playable perfectly with subtitles.
i don't understand why it doesn't work with this video..

@n0mag!c: What do you mean with "any delay that has being specified" and "if i specified any delay with this video"?
what kind of delay?

[hdjerin]

I have the excact same issue, the only difference is that I am burning my back-ups to a BD-25 and playing them back on my Panasonic DMP-BD50.
With TrueHD discs my Panasonic just refuses to play them, when remuxed with TsmuxeR, but if I remux them again with TsRemux and then replace the original m2ts stream from TsmuxeR with the new one from Tsremux and then burn it all is ok.

The "funny" thing is that the Tsremux output, when burned to a BD-25 wont play on the Panasonic either, strange....

But if there is any one out there with a Panasonic DMP-BD50, I can confirm that this work around works for it :D

Dear Denner
May you please share the information of BD titles with truehd track you processed ?

[hdpete]

Dear Denner
May you please share the information of BD titles with truehd track you processed ?

Denner's method didn't work for me using a Sony BDP-S350. I can't get any TrueHD audio to go through TsMuxer, once it has, it seems to be recked forever, whether or not it's passed through TsRemux afterwards.
If I remux from the original rip and can fit it onto a BD25 using TsRemux to Blu-Ray, it'll play fine recognising the TrueHD.
Problem is some video's need compressing to fit to a BD25 and then TsRemux won't let you add 2 different files, i.e. the compressed video using RipBot and the THD extracted by eac3to, only TsMuxer will let you do that, and that's no good for THD.
Consequently, I've only been able to keep TrueHD using TsRemux when there's no need to shrink the video to get a fit to a BD25. Other than that, the only way to keep uncompressed audio is to convert the audio to pcm using eac3to, then fix it for use with TsMuxer using Pcm2Tsmu, then mux the pcm and shrunken video stream using TsMuxer to blu-ray. Trouble with that is the PCM audio is about 3 x bigger than the TrueHD, so consequently you have to shrink the video smaller to get it all to fit on a BD25.

[n0mag!c]

What do you mean with "any delay that has being specified" and "if i specified any delay with this video"?
what kind of delay?
I'm talking about "delay" field in TsMuxer. When you're muxing your movie with TsMuxer do you change default value "0" to any for your SRT subtitles?
I'm personally muxing SRT subtitles with 1080p video (not 720p as yours) and having no problems. Maybe you can post few first lines from your SRT file so we can check it?

[N1KLAS]

I'm talking about "delay" field in TsMuxer. When you're muxing your movie with TsMuxer do you change default value "0" to any for your SRT subtitles?
I'm personally muxing SRT subtitles with 1080p video (not 720p as yours) and having no problems. Maybe you can post few first lines from your SRT file so we can check it?

hi, I dont change the default value "0" - I never do so, and actually i dont have any problem...

here are the first lines of the SRT file:

1
00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:02,130
Bisher bei Prison Break ...

2
00:00:02,140 --> 00:00:03,390
Wir hauen heute Nacht ab.

3
00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,650
Es gibt weder Elektrizität
noch fließendes Wasser.

4
00:00:05,660 --> 00:00:07,480
Hundert Dollar pro Monat.

[Nullity]

Denner's method didn't work for me using a Sony BDP-S350. I can't get any TrueHD audio to go through TsMuxer, once it has, it seems to be recked forever, whether or not it's passed through TsRemux afterwards.
If I remux from the original rip and can fit it onto a BD25 using TsRemux to Blu-Ray, it'll play fine recognising the TrueHD.
Problem is some video's need compressing to fit to a BD25 and then TsRemux won't let you add 2 different files, i.e. the compressed video using RipBot and the THD extracted by eac3to, only TsMuxer will let you do that, and that's no good for THD.
Consequently, I've only been able to keep TrueHD using TsRemux when there's no need to shrink the video to get a fit to a BD25. Other than that, the only way to keep uncompressed audio is to convert the audio to pcm using eac3to, then fix it for use with TsMuxer using Pcm2Tsmu, then mux the pcm and shrunken video stream using TsMuxer to blu-ray. Trouble with that is the PCM audio is about 3 x bigger than the TrueHD, so consequently you have to shrink the video smaller to get it all to fit on a BD25.

You could mux the compressed video and TrueHD audio into an mkv file first, then import that into TsRemux and do your thing. It adds an extra step, but the final output is exactly what you're looking for. You won't have PCM audio to take up all that space.

It's a shame developement on TsMuxer has stopped - it's a great program, but it has a few bugs and has a great more potential. TsRemux is a decent program, but I feel it lacks many needed features, one of which you already pointed out - that it can only open one file at a time, instead of importing multiple, like TsMuxer.

[EPiPH0NE]

^^^ why don't you guys just a buy a BD-RE 50 and then you won't have to worry about what you need to use to make your movies work.

[GuiPoM]

Hi !

Starting from a VOB file with a MPEG video track and a DTS sound track.

I want to remux it into a ts file.

Here an example with a DTS trailer VOB file, but same with some of my HD movies ... I don't understand why Playstation3 and VLC does not detect the sound track (no sound), and VLC identify it as a subtitle !

Before, just opening the VOB:
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4669/dtsbeforerd7.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dtsbeforerd7.jpg)

After muxing, opening the ts again:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/444/dtsafteryu5.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dtsafteryu5.jpg)

Opening information box in VLC:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6981/dtsvlcrd5.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dtsvlcrd5.jpg)

Could anyone help me getting a correct TS that includes my DTS track ? Thanks ;)

[hdpete]

You could mux the compressed video and TrueHD audio into an mkv file first, then import that into TsRemux and do your thing. It adds an extra step, but the final output is exactly what you're looking for. You won't have PCM audio to take up all that space.

It's a shame developement on TsMuxer has stopped - it's a great program, but it has a few bugs and has a great more potential. TsRemux is a decent program, but I feel it lacks many needed features, one of which you already pointed out - that it can only open one file at a time, instead of importing multiple, like TsMuxer.

Thanks for that, I didn't think MKVMerge accepted TrueHD, if it does, what file extension should I use for the extracted TrueHD file in eac3to, I know MKVMerge doesn't accept .thd?

[Albion]

^^^ why don't you guys just a buy a BD-RE 50 and then you won't have to worry about what you need to use to make your movies work.

Is there a current drive that writes to BD-RE50?

Certainly the LG GGW-H20L writes to BD-R50

[Beastie Boy]

Thanks for that, I didn't think MKVMerge accepted TrueHD...

Same here. I would be interested to hear from anyone getting this to work.

[hdpete]

^^^ why don't you guys just a buy a BD-RE 50 and then you won't have to worry about what you need to use to make your movies work.

I take it you know where to get BD50's at a sensible price then ?

[odin24]

Hi !

Starting from a VOB file with a MPEG video track and a DTS sound track.

I want to remux it into a ts file.

Here an example with a DTS trailer VOB file, but same with some of my HD movies ... I don't understand why Playstation3 and VLC does not detect the sound track (no sound), and VLC identify it as a subtitle !

Could anyone help me getting a correct TS that includes my DTS track ? Thanks ;)

For DTS (and subtitles) you need to make a AVCHD/BD format or DVD format disc for playback on the PS3, it will not play as a m2ts or ts file. As for the VLC issue, I'm not sure, I do not use VLC.

[NexGen76]

any one tried ripping Doomsday the movie?

i get a message that some tracks can't be recognized by tsmuxer. what tracks are those?


I'm having the same issue with my BD rips after using anydvd hd to rip them to my HD.Do anyone know why TsMuxeR give us this error & know how to fix this or around it......Thxs

[EPiPH0NE]

Is there a current drive that writes to BD-RE50?

Certainly the LG GGW-H20L writes to BD-R50


If your BD burner can burn BD-R 50 and not BD-RE 50 then you got jacked.

[EPiPH0NE]

I take it you know where to get BD50's at a sensible price then ?


If you've already spent the money on a standalone BluRay player and a burner what's an extra $50 for a disc that you will get thousands of uses out of?

[hdjerin]

Denner's method didn't work for me using a Sony BDP-S350.

Denner's method did work for my panasonic BD30.
Including BD titles "the fifth element", "ghost rider", "blade runner" and "spiderman 3" had ouput TrueHD bitstream to Integra 9.8 preamp.

But "the phantom of opera, japan edition" remuxed by "Denner's method", had abnormal TrueHD bitstream output ... tremor of sound.

ps. In the first "tsmuxer" step, I noted the TrueHD of "the phantom of opera, japan edition" showed 448kbps core, all other titles showed 640kbps core. Any thought ?

http://www.hd.club.tw/attachments/month_0809/20080915_27122ac36112cc3c566bYkxscz5KGeh9.jpg

http://www.hd.club.tw/attachments/month_0809/20080915_b84aa46dc072e1ad0da1Fh0fhTejOe6z.jpg

[Nullity]

Thanks for that, I didn't think MKVMerge accepted TrueHD, if it does, what file extension should I use for the extracted TrueHD file in eac3to, I know MKVMerge doesn't accept .thd?

My fault, you are correct, MKVmerge doesn't accept TrueHD audio. I had thought I gotten it to work a while back when I was doing a bunch of format testing, but I must have been mistaken.

Sorry about that, I guess I should have tested it again to make sure before I replied. :(

EDIT: Oddly enough, when trying to import a thd+ac3 audio file, MKVmerge accepts it, but thinks it is an AVC/h.264 video stream.

[hdpete]

If you've already spent the money on a standalone BluRay player and a burner what's an extra $50 for a disc that you will get thousands of uses out of?

Not if you want to keep the movie, which most people do.